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610 CKTB | 'Teacher of the Month' to Wannabe Presidential Assassin · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 1: More on the White House Correspondence Association dinner on Saturday night,
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  Speaker 1: and the conspiracy theories are flying fast and furious, and
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  Speaker 1: you know somebody's all written an article about it in
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  Speaker 1: his blog called Cavetchen Release. John Lidkey, Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: show on a Monday morning.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Jane.
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  Speaker 2: Well that was quite a Saturday night. Oooh boy.
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  Speaker 1: Now this is an interesting take from you, because I
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  Speaker 1: was just joking around about this a second ago. You're
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  Speaker 1: looking at the mentalist Oz Perlman, who, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: is just so good as basically a canary and the
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  Speaker 1: cold mine for this disaster. Now, how does a guy
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  Speaker 1: who tells the media he has prepared a twenty five
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  Speaker 1: minute routine to make jaws drop end up missing the
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  Speaker 1: guy with a shotgun passing through hotel security.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and he said to NPR just days ago, I've
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  Speaker 3: been preparing a decade for this specific night. Ten years ago,
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  Speaker 3: he sought out a plan to achieve this goal, to
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  Speaker 3: get onto a stage with the man, and here we are.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's ironic in a way that sucks for
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  Speaker 3: his career. But I don't think it'll be something that
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  Speaker 3: really is a tarnish on it. But listen, it's meticulous.
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  Speaker 3: It's obsessive planning on his part, on secret services part,
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  Speaker 3: on the media's part to put the thing together. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you got to understand in this case, Trump was actually
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  Speaker 3: just a guest at this event, which makes the whole
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  Speaker 3: conspiracy theories that are being laid in really really fall
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  Speaker 3: apart just on face value. And I don't have time
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  Speaker 3: for those conspiracy theories. Quite frankly, we know what happened.
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  Speaker 3: A guy who published a manifesto told his family that
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  Speaker 3: he was going to target the administration did so. But
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  Speaker 3: we've ended up with the perfect cynical metaphor for twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty six. Right, the entire media industry, the entire security apparatus,
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  Speaker 3: the entire administration all had their eyes fixated either on
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  Speaker 3: their glass of wine, their dinner plates, or a magic
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  Speaker 3: trick on the TV screen in front of them and
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure out what's going to happen next. And
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  Speaker 3: a guy Brett broke through the area with a shotgun.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone missed it because they were too busy rehearsing the illusion.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, meanwhile, did you see eating the salad guy? During
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing? They had a clip to this guy
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  Speaker 1: you sitting there eating his salad. He said, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to get under the table, And then I saw
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  Speaker 1: several clips of women. I'm sure the men were doing
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  Speaker 1: it too, picking up bottles of champagne and wine that
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  Speaker 1: hadn't been opened and just putting them in their persons
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  Speaker 1: and walking out of the place. But back to your column,
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  Speaker 1: you described the push for the four hundred million dollar
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  Speaker 1: White House ballroom as a sedam style of retreat. So
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  Speaker 1: now that the administration has this shooting, do you think
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  Speaker 1: they're going to bypass federal judges and the whole controversy
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  Speaker 1: around its construction and basically just sealed the deal by
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  Speaker 1: saying we can't go to big hotels.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Trump already said it at the news conference immediately
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  Speaker 3: after the attempted shooting that this was a justification for
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  Speaker 3: the ballroom. Yesterday evening they filed a suit to dismiss
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  Speaker 3: the suits against their ballroom, saying how necessary it is
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  Speaker 3: because of what just occurred. But this isn't net loss
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  Speaker 3: for the Office of the Presidency. Yeah, they want to
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  Speaker 3: create a bunker, they can curate the lighting, they can
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  Speaker 3: have the guest list. It's a private fortress. But the
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  Speaker 3: Isolation isn't power, that's surrender. And if you reach that
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  Speaker 3: point where you need to retreat into concrete to hold
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  Speaker 3: a pressor, you're not being a leader. You're an expensive
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  Speaker 3: shut in. I don't know about you, But like when
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  Speaker 3: I see the pope driving through the streets and the
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  Speaker 3: popemobile with the solid glass windows and stuff, that's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit funny and I laugh at it. When I
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  Speaker 3: see a pope wandering through the streets and kissing the
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  Speaker 3: feet of babies, I go, oh, man, this is a
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  Speaker 3: guy of power. You want to project power.
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  Speaker 1: M you know, the lack of security around this whole
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  Speaker 1: thing's kind of surprising. I mean, he takes a train
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  Speaker 1: from California to the East coast of the United States,
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  Speaker 1: and you know they don't check you with you're getting
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  Speaker 1: into a train, so he could take all the weapons
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  Speaker 1: that he wanted he checks into the hotel. In his manifesto,
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  Speaker 1: we said the security is simply terrible. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's an American failure. But when I take
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  Speaker 1: a look at us here back in Canada and the
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  Speaker 1: ware O country has changed so dramatically, do you think
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  Speaker 1: we should be looking at our own soft targets and
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  Speaker 1: border security here at a little more.
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  Speaker 3: I think we do a really good job. I like
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  Speaker 3: how our national security apparatus on both sides of the
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  Speaker 3: border quite frankly work, although I have disagreements, of course
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  Speaker 3: with the policy of how they execute their immigration and
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  Speaker 3: whatnot on their side in the United States. But this
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  Speaker 3: is just a loud admission that they have lost an
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  Speaker 3: ability to manage the open spaces around or in this
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  Speaker 3: case of you know, closed space around the president of
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  Speaker 3: the United States of America. If they can't secure a
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  Speaker 3: hotel lobby from a guy who checked in as a guest,
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  Speaker 3: and I understand he was a teacher of the year,
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  Speaker 3: he wouldn't show up as a red flag. But the
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  Speaker 3: guy was still able to check into a hotel, bring
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  Speaker 3: weapons in and thereby be passed magnetometers and get pretty close,
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  Speaker 3: albeit at a level away from the President of the
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  Speaker 3: United States. This is an issue of security being synonymous
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  Speaker 3: with the seclusion. I don't know exactly what the answer is,
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  Speaker 3: but if you become a Soviet style premier retreating it behind,
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  Speaker 3: you know, complete concrete forever, you're not going to be
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  Speaker 3: seen as strong. You're going to be seen as a
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  Speaker 3: strong man, But that's never strong.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I watched Jim Acosta on YouTube. He
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  Speaker 1: was the really good reporter on CNN who sort of
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  Speaker 1: was given the gate for who knows what reason. And
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  Speaker 1: you know he said the reporters back on Saturday night
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  Speaker 1: when Trump stood up, they all should have left. So
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned the NATO principle regarding the press. So if
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  Speaker 1: the media simply refuses to show up at the new ballroom,
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  Speaker 1: who actually wins that standoff? The President or the fourth
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  Speaker 1: Estate or would they even dare not to show up.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is the interesting thing. I mean, we're getting
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  Speaker 3: into a matter of talking about a vent logistics gene,
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  Speaker 3: which is one of my side businesses that I do.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean the White House Correspondence Association Dinner is
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  Speaker 3: an event hosted by the White House Correspondence Association. As
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  Speaker 3: I mentioned, the President is an invitee. What he's talking
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  Speaker 3: about is usurping the event, co opting it, becoming the organizer,
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  Speaker 3: and then inviting the press to it. In a situation
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  Speaker 3: like that, they've lost the ability to dictate the entire evening,
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  Speaker 3: the entire routine, the guest list, for gosh sake. So yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: I would recommend there's no reason to show up to
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  Speaker 3: that because that's just a press briefing and they can
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  Speaker 3: hold that in the Brady Room until he decides to
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  Speaker 3: get rid of that.
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  Speaker 1: And wasn't that briefing in the Brady Room only an
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  Speaker 1: hour after everything went down? I mentioned in Latest in
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  Speaker 1: the News. I found it rather strange. I mean here,
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  Speaker 1: I mean to begin with, millennia of all people was
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  Speaker 1: in the room, and cabinet officials who are there along
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  Speaker 1: with other government officials, and they were just like laughing
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  Speaker 1: and joking and having a good time, just like it
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  Speaker 1: was like a post wedding party. I'm still trying to
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  Speaker 1: wrap my head around.
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  Speaker 3: Now. Well, you know, Trump's never going to miss an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to seize an opportunity to do a play on
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  Speaker 3: the pun that goes the other way the thing happened.
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  Speaker 3: He knew that everyone's eyes were on the world. They
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  Speaker 3: weren't going to be hosting the event that evening, so
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  Speaker 3: why not usurp it for his own purposes? Would it
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  Speaker 3: have been how I would have recommended handling it. Not quite.
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  Speaker 3: If it was me, I would have gotten doctor Oz
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  Speaker 3: on stage first walking out. Not doctor Oz, excuse me
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  Speaker 3: to mentor with although you know what, doctor Oz would
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  Speaker 3: have been good too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was probably there as well. He probably was,
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  Speaker 1: just was was a very very odd night. You know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody in the US is talking about this ballroom anonymously
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  Speaker 1: funded to the tune of over four hundred million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: It's legal challenges.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody is challenging it, saying it's an historical site and
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  Speaker 1: you can litigate against anything, including a ham sand which
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  Speaker 1: in the United States. But as a result of what
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  Speaker 1: happened on Saturday night, you think he has flipped the
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  Speaker 1: script by turning the security failure into a reason to
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  Speaker 1: build the private bunker and only have events there.
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  Speaker 3: I think he did a really good job at it,
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  Speaker 3: and I think if they keep hammering it, they'll be
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  Speaker 3: able to justify it, and then if they can legislate
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  Speaker 3: it and get you know, Republicans in the House in
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  Speaker 3: the Senate to pass push it through with him signing
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  Speaker 3: it to say that there can only be events that
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  Speaker 3: are in secret service designated venue. Sure, that sounds like
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  Speaker 3: a pretty easy sell, quite frankly, And we know how
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  Speaker 3: easy America is to buy things that are wrapped up
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  Speaker 3: in the flag and sold with the sheen of safety.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, we have to be honest. The truth
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  Speaker 3: in an every scenario here is that the collateral damage
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  Speaker 3: has been left lying on the floor with the shattered
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  Speaker 3: glass and the lobby or at least whatever the shagments
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  Speaker 3: that came off of the Secret Service agent's vest. This
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  Speaker 3: is a very tough sell to the public in America,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't understand how the public Niagara could buy this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one thing is for sure.
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  Speaker 1: The tinfoil hat crowd on Twitter is having a field
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  Speaker 1: day today. And the thing that's really trending is it
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  Speaker 1: was staged. It was staged. I don't think it was staged.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't see how it could be staged. Again,
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  Speaker 3: I think that it takes such a either willful blindness
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  Speaker 3: to what happened or ignorance to And I don't mean
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  Speaker 3: that in a rude way, but I think that if
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  Speaker 3: you understood that this was organized by all of the media,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't organized by the government. In fact, Trump's team
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  Speaker 3: didn't even go and give it the highest level of
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  Speaker 3: security detail because it was one of those public events,
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  Speaker 3: as I understand it, that had the media added, so
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  Speaker 3: they didn't want it to go to such a high level,
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  Speaker 3: and that can be argued about of whether or not
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  Speaker 3: that could be seen as staged. I suppose to one extent,
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  Speaker 3: but no, I think what you just have to accept
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  Speaker 3: is is that there's crazy people in the world. America
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  Speaker 3: has three hundred and eighty million people. There's more gun
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  Speaker 3: in the country than there are people. This was a
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  Speaker 3: guy who won a Teacher of the Year award two
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  Speaker 3: years ago, and it seems like he just flipped, like
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people are doing these days. It's a shame.
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  Speaker 3: I wish it didn't happen. Do I expect that it
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  Speaker 3: won't happen again? Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 2: All right, great take this morning, nice job, Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: There he goes.
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  Speaker 1: John Letkey always has a good take on what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: always has a good angle.
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  Speaker 2: All right. The quick break when