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Episode 55: Traveling With (And Without) Kids: The Anxiety, The Chaos & What No One Tells You · Pretty In Pink Again

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  I'm Christina and I'm t And this is the Pretty and Pink again podcast.
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  Where Motherhood meets rediscovery.
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  Hey.
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  Hi.
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  Hi.
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  It's just me and you today actually.
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  Just you, us too.
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  And Noella.
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  I have Nola today.
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  She loves you so much.
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  I know.
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  If you guys don't know, NOLA is Tea's puppy that she got.
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  How old does she know?
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  Uh, she was born November 5th.
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  And she, she sometimes with us, she chewed a cord a couple weeks ago.
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  But she's sitting on my lap.
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  She got in trouble.
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  It's okay.
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  That was like her one.
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  She had like one red flag.
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  With the chewing, but she's sitting on me today and I am just, gosh, this dog, I feel like I might go to sleep during this episode.
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  She's just such a snuggle, like calm baby.
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  Yes, she is.
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  She's like, and she's also a, she's like floppy, like, so what I always say to you is that, or she's like limp, like where you just like pick her up and she's just like mush.
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  Yes.
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  She's a puddle.
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  She's a puddle and I love it.
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  Yes, I know.
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  She's also she sleeps with us in bed.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Nick was like, so is this happening now?
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  Yeah.
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  He was like, so the kids are out of our bed finally, and now there's a dog in it.
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  I'm like, exactly.
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  Exactly.
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  He's like, well, will it ever be just us two in here?
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  I'm like, it's so funny.
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  Probably not.
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  It's so funny when you sleep with an animal.
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  I feel like they do.
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  It's like one of two things.
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  I feel like people probably think about this who like co-sleep with their kids.
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  Yeah.
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  At the same time.
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  But my cats.
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  They sleep in our bed as well.
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  They simultaneously.
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  Put me to bed because it's like very relaxing to have them with me, but then also wake me up at the same time.
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  Like, it's like there's two things happening at once.
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  But I love this.
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  This is my kids.
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  Were never relaxing in bed with me.
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  No.
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  My kids don't relax in bed.
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  But no I mean, I just, but she's a mosh dog, so you can stay in bed as long as you want.
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  I love it.
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  She's such a cutie.
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  But I'm so happy to sit with you today because it's been, I know there's so much to catch up on.
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  It's, I know.
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  It's been like a hot minute since it's just been me and you here and we've gotten to catch up and chat and all the things.
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  So I know I am dying to hear about your trip.
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  Yes.
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  My trip.
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  'cause I know there was so much anticipatory anxiety.
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  Yes.
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  That went into even going away, period.
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  Yes.
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  And then once you decided, all right, I'm doing this, we're going away.
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  Yep.
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  It was like, how many rooms do we get?
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  Yes.
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  What are they gonna be like on the flight?
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  What am I packing?
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  How long are we going for?
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  Ba ba.
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  And you almost didn't even go because you were getting yourself work gap.
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  It's, yes.
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  So it was funny when I, when I started posting that we were away, I had a ton of Pippa's.
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  I could tell they were Pippa, obviously, because they were messaging me.
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  And they're like, you went, you did it.
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  I'm so proud of you.
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  And it was great.
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  We ended up having a really, really great trip.
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  I'll back up and just say that.
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  Yeah.
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  So we were supposed to go to Mexico.
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  We ended up canceling.
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  Well, thank that trip.
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  Thank God you didn't, which is, yes, we're very, very lucky.
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  Very timely.
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  It's very timely.
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  We ended up canceling that trip and we were looking for a place to rebook.
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  I really, in my mind wanted to remove ourselves from the day-to-day grind that we're normally doing at the house.
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  And so the thought of like renting an Airbnb, we do that throughout the year and I've shared that.
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  I love doing that.
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  But I wanted like separation from that.
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  Like I didn't wanna go somewhere and then be doing the breakfast, lunch, and dinner, the house, and feeling.
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  Okay, well we have the kitchen here, so should we just, and then the laundry and all that, like I wanted to remove us.
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  It would've the same stuff just somewhere else.
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  Exactly.
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  And so we were really looking for more of a resort.
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  You had recommended the jw, Marco Island, which is in Florida, and that's like a little bit outside of Fort Myers, so that's where we flew in.
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  That was a big question that people had.
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  It, it's a small airport.
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  Super easy to get through.
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  Yeah, it was a direct flight, which was amazing and it.
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  It was that resort feeling that we were looking for where like, we don't have to get in the car once.
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  We're there, like we're there, the restaurants are there.
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  What we're doing for the day is like beach or pool.
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  Right.
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  There's no like pressure to be keeping the kids busy doing something else and having to leave.
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  That's what I was looking for.
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  So we were so happy that was what ended up kind of transpiring after all of the, booking and rebooking and canceling and all of that.
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  So it ended up working out so well.
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  But then once we had that booked, right, we were like, okay, this is where we're going.
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  This is the room we're getting.
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  I'd still have like all of this anticipatory anxiety.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  That I just cannot shake anytime.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  I'm traveling with the kids.
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  I do not have it for myself.
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  I have it when traveling with the kids.
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  Well, wild.
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  As a family.
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  As a family.
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  As a family.
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  Like if Raja and I go away, or if I'm traveling by myself.
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  Absolutely not.
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  You're good.
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  I'm good to go.
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  And we did so much traveling before we had kids, and I feel like once you're in that travel zone and you're like, okay, I know how to pack myself, you're, you just have like all the things down.
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  It's very easy to travel and you're kind of like in that zone.
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  But then when I include the kids in that, so much takes over and I have so much anxiety.
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  It's wild.
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  How did you feel the day you were traveling?
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  Were you scared and anxious that day while you were in it?
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  Obviously you were going up to it, but did it dissipate at all Once.
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  Once you did it, once you kind of got there and I, we were like started where to airport.
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  Got there or like to the hotel, to the, got there, to the hotel.
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  We were checked in, we were like heading down to the pool and I was kind of like, okay, we still have to know like how the night is gonna go.
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  We still have bedtime to get through, but I felt like you were more curious what's gonna happen was all starting to like.
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  It just gradually started to dissipate, I would say.
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  Okay, so how was the first night in the hotel room?
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  Because you were all in a room together.
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  We all shared a room, which is wild.
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  And you historically, historically have a bad sleep.
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  You are a bad sleeper and so is your daughter.
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  Yes, and so I was so nervous.
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  Anytime I'm worried about like my sleep getting disrupted or there's like variables or disrupting their sleep their day or their sleep.
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  Literally terrified, but it went as well as it could have went.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  It's wild.
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  That's amazing.
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  So like lights out, you were all out at the same time?
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  Yeah, because luckily my kids do go to bed a little bit later, so my kids normally go to bed around eight 30.
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  Okay.
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  Which is a little late for kids.
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  And for little ones.
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  Yeah, for little ones it is.
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  But then my kids sleep until after seven each day.
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  Oh.
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  So we're just kind of like on a little bit of a different schedule.
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  That's great.
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  Which works for us.
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  And so for us, we were just like, okay, if we keep them up a little bit extra, maybe by nine we can all go to bed.
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  And that's what we did.
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  Perfect.
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  So we were all in bed.
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  It's not like I have kids that go to bed at seven.
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  I could not have done that if like the kids had to be lights out by seven.
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  I don't think that we could have shared, because then it's like, what?
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  I can't go to bed at seven o'clock, you know?
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  Well, you wouldn't have been able to file that schedule.
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  No.
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  You would've had.
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  Push it even more, which might have been harder.
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  Yeah, so it worked.
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  It worked this way and then we still, they slept until still about seven o'clock, so it was great.
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  That's awesome.
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  It was amazing.
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  We had, yeah, we had a, did they snooze at all by the pool?
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  They did not.
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  Okay.
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  So that was something for me, I was like, how are we gonna coordinate naps?
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  Leo's four almost.
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  So he doesn't always need a nap.
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  Yeah.
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  He just needs a nap when he gets like really tired.
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  So we were like, okay, maybe one of the days he'll end up having to go to sleep.
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  I was most worried about Layla,'cause Layla's my variable all the time about if she doesn't nap it causes her to wake up through the night.
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  I think luckily we just tired her out so much that she slept through the night.
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  Aw.
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  And she also knew that I was there.
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  I feel like that's the separation sometimes.
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  Yes.
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  If she was probably in another room, she might have not slept through the night because she knew that we were there.
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  She slept through the night.
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  She kind of thought it was great.
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  Yeah.
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  She was like, this is great.
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  This is all I want.
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  And so that worked out really well.
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  Perfect.
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  But I still, even before the trip, I had so much anxiety around like the packing and like packing with kids and all of the stuff where you're like.
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  Okay.
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  Do we need this?
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  What if this happens?
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  Then do we have this, like, it's like, do we need medicine?
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  Do we need, what if it's cold?
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  What if the, like we don't have access to a washer dryer, so like, do we need extra sets?
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  Like what if they need extra pajamas?
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  Like, that's how I think.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Like where I'm like bracing for every worst case scenario.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And so the packing was very stressful for me, but we made Did you overpack at the end of the day or did you actually, or did you just do just off?
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  Did, I mean, I thought that I was overpacking, but we didn't.
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  We used like every last bit of what we had.
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  Okay.
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  Because we didn't have access to like wash anything easily, you know?
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  Yeah.
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  So I'm going to get, I'm gonna share my favorite place to stay.
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  But we stayed at the Ritz Carlton in Naples a few years ago.
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  No, that was your other recommendation.
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  And I'm obsessed with that hotel and it was our first time that we, well, we usually go to the Baja Mar.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  In Naau.
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  I know that's, and it was the first time we went on vacation with the four kids and didn't bring like my mom or a sitter.
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  It was like our first trip.
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  Just the six of us.
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  Yeah.
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  And the twins were they were probably three then.
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  So we stayed at the Ritz and Naples.
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  Joseph got the stomach bug.
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  Oh my God.
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  And one of my girlfriends we ran into while we were there, she was like, go up in my room.
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  I have Zofran in my room.
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  So now I travel with Zofran everywhere I go.
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  Yeah, there you go.
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  'cause So like something happens added to the bag and then you rake ma make another memory.
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  Like Okay, add it to the bag.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Well the Ritz Carlton does complimentary laundry wash and fold laundry.
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  There you go.
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  Every single day.
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  So now when we go there, I just bring a few things and then we leave it at the door.
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  And then you don't, don't have to bring home any wet bathing suits.
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  That's so nice.
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  But the first time we went away with everybody, I was like, Nick, we're getting one room.
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  It's too expensive to purchase two rooms.
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  It's like crazy.
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  The place is a fortune.
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  So we got one room.
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  So I was like, wait in the lobby with the kids while I go rearrange the furniture.
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  Right.
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  'cause you're like, I have to set up for everybody.
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  So had Instacart coming, like all this thing.
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  So we had a desk.
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  So I took the chair out of the room and the twins slept under the desk.
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  Like it was a little like a, a hide a little hideout for them.
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  Yeah.
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  And I took a sheet and I put it over the top and they thought it was so cool that they could like sleep under the desk.
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  One boy slept on like the Chas on the room.
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  Yep.
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  And then another one slept in one bed and me and Nick slept in the other bed.
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  I think ultimately I ended up getting my own bed and one of the kids slept with Nick'cause they were probably like queen beds.
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  And we made it work for the week.
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  Yep.
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  And to your point earlier about like Layla having separation anxiety, I think that my kids thought it was so cool that to be together, mom and dad were right there.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So.
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  It all ended up working out and it was great, but now they're larger and we can't do that unfortunately.
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  Know can only get away with that for so long.
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  I know, that was really good advice because you actually said that to me.
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  Normally we've done Airbnbs we've done condos at a hotel.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Where there's like residences above it.
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  Yeah.
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  So this was the first time we had a hotel room with all of us there together.
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  And that was your point, you said do this while you can, because you're not always gonna be able to share.
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  It just gets like a little bit crazy when everybody's old, but do it while they're little.
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  And I was just sitting there in fear like, oh my God.
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  But then there's four of us and so if one of them gets up, then we're all up, you know?
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  And I was just so fearful.
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  That anxiety is just wild.
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  When I'm talking about it out loud, it sounds so silly.
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  But then when you're like thinking about all the things that can go wrong and like not ruin the trip, but just if you're tired and now no one's sleeping and everybody's cranky and everyone's off schedule, like I just think of like worst case scenario.
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  Totally.
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  Well, you like a dooms, a doomsday, but you stay on schedule because it helps keep you regulated.
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  Yes.
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  And you keep your kids on schedule because you know what keeps them regulated.
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  Yes.
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  And I hate using this word regulation, but it's true and it's so important.
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  It's a very basic like fundamental thing.
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  Yeah.
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  That your nervous system has to say.
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  Regulated.
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  Yes.
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  And when you're not sleeping and when the kids are constantly on and you don't feel like you're gonna have your time to decompress.
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  Yes.
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  Then you have this fear of dysregulate.
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  You had like a fear of dysregulation.
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  I was so worried.
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  I it's all compounded.
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  Right?
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  You just said it like not having any downtime, being on all day with toddlers.
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  Being at the beach in the pool.
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  Having to be so mentally on and then like, okay, where are we going?
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  We're making everybody happy.
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  Like, we're at a restaurant instead of being home, so are they going to eat?
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  Are they gonna sleep?
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  All of that what ifs?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Just completely clouds my mind.
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  The lucky part about all of this is that once we got there and everything kind of settled and we were in a routine, I actually found myself way more go with the flow, which very much surprised me.
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  Like I was like, eh, okay.
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  They don't wanna nap.
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  Especially because the night before everybody had slept pretty well for the most part.
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  So I was like, okay, it's our first full day.
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  Like, nobody feels like napping today.
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  I think they'll be fine.
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  Perfect.
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  You know, and like that.
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  Even to have the thought that I was like being cool with it was very surprising to me.
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  Just, again, correct me if I'm wrong, but you have these strict rules in place because you're trying to keep a schedule because you're trying to keep them regulated.
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  And Myself.
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  And yourself.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  If you noticed that the vacation schedule being a little bit more lenient, still allowed for everybody to be at ease, then you could be more flexible.
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  Exactly.
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  But you have to go through it one day to see how it goes.
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  Oh, sure.
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  Before you just say, okay, we're on vacation.
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  No naps.
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  Yep.
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  And I actually think that because I'm so, I don't like using the word strict, but just I'm so regimented with regimen them regimented.
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  That's a, I actually think nicer that they, it helps them in situations like this because they know that bedtime is bedtime.
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  You know, they know what that feels like and their body is on such a clock that yes, if they skip a nap, like they might be a little bit grouchy or like a little bit, crabby for the rest of the day.
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  Or like they might have like a little bit more of outbursts or something.
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  But do they know that bedtime means bedtime?
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  'cause we stuck within the window of bedtime.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  It was like, okay, it's eight 30, like, we're tired, we wanna go to sleep.
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  Right.
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  Like their bodies were like on autopilot still of like, okay, it's bedtime.
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  We're ready to go to bed.
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  Did you bring a stroller with you?
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  We did.
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  The stroller has actually, did they sleep in the stroller?
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  I thought that they might, but they did not.
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  But they at least like, rest in it.
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  Like when you're going from room to dinner or like if you're walking around the resort, at least they have like a place.
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  But they had a little bit of downtime treat too.
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  And honestly, I think if Leo wasn't almost four years old and he was still,'cause he has always been like a must napper, like, and that's him not me.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  He's just loves napping.
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  If this was like maybe a year or two ago, he probably would've napped in the stroller.
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  It's just that he doesn't need it anymore.
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  So I love a stroller.
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  I do too.
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  And I love a stroller nap.
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  I do too.
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  My like, favorite hack for a vacation with a stroller.
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  If you have like maybe one kid.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Maybe, probably not two.
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  If you're bringing so much stuff and you don't wanna travel with more stuff, is to Instacart an umbrella stroller from like Walmart for like 10 bucks.
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  And then just leave it there.
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  Leave it all there.
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  Leave it there.
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  Or just say to the front desk like, here, do you wanna keep this?
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  Keep it on to someone else.
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  Pass it on to somebody that like, that's like me and Nick's like, favorite thing to do is just like a cheapo umbrella stroller.
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  Yep.
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  My stroller is gonna be my pink spotlight, so I'll save a little bit of it.
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  For that, because that was a must have for this trip.
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  For sure.
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  And yeah, I just love a stroller.
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  Like, I feel like I miss having a stroller.
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  You know, like the first time I went to the mall without a stroller, I was like, where do I put my bags?
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  I know, like, I forgot what it was like to run an errand.
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  It's more for, it's more for us.
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  My drink, my, the cup holder, like all of it a stroll.
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  I just wanna have a stroller just to be, I agree with you out by myself.
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  I agree.
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  It's gonna be a sad day when we have outgrown the stroller.
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  And actually why I got this stroller was because the weight limit was higher.
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  And I was like, good.
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  We can keep them in it longer, because I just, I love it.
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  I love having my bag and I mm-hmm.
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  Because I like my stuff with me.
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  Mm-hmm.
• 15:18
  I hate ha, just having a tote for the day.
• 15:20
  Like absolutely not.
• 15:21
  I need the stroller packed with all the things.
• 15:23
  It's co.
• 15:23
  So that's what we did.
• 15:24
  It's so convenient.
• 15:24
  I know.
• 15:24
  A stroller is a luxury in life For sure.
• 15:27
  I love it.
• 15:27
  We went to Disney a few, two years ago, so Joseph was 10 even he was in the stroller by the end of the day.
• 15:32
  Oh, I believe it.
• 15:33
  We had two stroll.
• 15:34
  Nick was like, we're gonna rent one.
• 15:35
  I go, no, no, no, no.
• 15:36
  We need, everyone needs need two strollers.
• 15:38
  The boys need to see two.
• 15:39
  Everyone needs to, HES, they're eight and 10.
• 15:40
  They're not gonna be, I go, I'm gonna be sitting down in the stroller.
• 15:43
  I know, I know.
• 15:43
  We're renting two and sure enough like everybody was in that stroller.
• 15:46
  I know.
• 15:47
  I feel like it's the best because you're just like, hop in and then you're not the one that's having to carry them and lug them around.
• 15:53
  Or if they decide they wanna walk, but then they don't wanna walk and then have to hey, just hop in and hop out.
• 15:57
  Yep.
• 15:57
  It's the best.
• 15:58
  Oh, literally the best.
• 15:59
  No stroller days.
• 16:00
  Yeah.
• 16:01
  Just goes so fast.
• 16:02
  I'm so happy you got away.
• 16:03
  I am too.
• 16:03
  I'm happy that we did it.
• 16:05
  It was nice to see that we could actually like take this type of vacation where it's not just an Airbnb, we are Airbnb like later on in the, I'm saying Airbnb, but like we are renting a house like later on in the year we rent that the summer beach house.
• 16:19
  And we do like a couple of other trips throughout the year where we have more of that like residential feel.
• 16:26
  And that's great.
• 16:28
  And I think that's real.
• 16:28
  That's a different trip.
• 16:29
  It's a different trip.
• 16:30
  It feels more, this actually felt more like a vacation.
• 16:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 16:34
  Than I think we've ever had with kids.
• 16:37
  Did you drink?
• 16:38
  I did have a couple of drinks.
• 16:39
  I did.
• 16:40
  Oh, I love that.
• 16:41
  I did.
• 16:41
  I did.
• 16:42
  Yeah.
• 16:42
  Because I, not that I'm like, poo-pooing your sobriety.
• 16:45
  No, but I love that you had a drink.
• 16:46
  Well, that kind of proves that I was like relaxed enough to have a drink because I was so anxious.
• 16:51
  I was like, I don't wanna put anything else in the mix that's gonna disrupt me.
• 16:55
  But I felt like I felt calm enough to have a beverage, I think that based on all of this, like what you, what we just discussed, don't you feel like that's why people end up going to the same place over and over again?
• 17:07
  It's, I can totally see that.
• 17:08
  'cause once you're there, your kids don't have travel anxiety.
• 17:12
  Yep.
• 17:12
  And you don't have travel anxiety.
• 17:14
  I know we're talking a lot about travel anxiety today.
• 17:16
  Yeah.
• 17:16
  But I feel like.
• 17:18
  My kids, two in particular, and I have it, have so much anxiety.
• 17:23
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:23
  And I feel like the more I do hard things and the more I end up on the other side and I'm like, oh, I did this and I worked through all the possible scenarios and.
• 17:34
  I'm okay.
• 17:34
  Yeah.
• 17:35
  The less anxiety that I have.
• 17:37
  But my kids have so much fear for what's coming next and all these impossible situations that could be occurring.
• 17:43
  I mean I have all those same fears too.
• 17:45
  So like with travel in particular, if you are go into the same place and you're familiar with it.
• 17:50
  Yes.
• 17:50
  And you know, okay, this is where we can get our food.
• 17:53
  I don't have to have food anxiety, like I'm gonna be hungry or hangry like you can Instacart groceries from here.
• 17:59
  This is where we can get shades so we don't get a sunburn.
• 18:02
  It's like, yes.
• 18:03
  It's like you, no way.
• 18:03
  We won't be too close to the water.
• 18:04
  I don't have to worry about, my kids are gonna drown'cause we're like on top of the water.
• 18:08
  This is where the pool, all of these crazy thought thoughts.
• 18:10
  That makes sense.
• 18:11
  You think of over and over and over again.
• 18:12
  Yep.
• 18:12
  When you take your kids on vacation.
• 18:14
  Yep.
• 18:14
  It makes so much sense.
• 18:15
  'cause I could see that you're like, okay, if we go back to that same spot now, you know all of the things and so it eliminates all of the anxiety that you would have otherwise.
• 18:23
  I know Nick and I have completely different anxieties when we travel.
• 18:27
  So when we go anywhere, anywhere, Nick will be like, I need a map.
• 18:31
  I'm like, you need a map.
• 18:32
  He's like, I need a map.
• 18:34
  All right.
• 18:34
  So he'll take a map and he wants to like memorize the layout of where we are, of where he's, he wants to know where all the restaurants are, where the bathrooms are, where the exit is, where the pools are.
• 18:44
  And he wants to like take a lap.
• 18:46
  Like we went to the Atlantis a few years ago and he wanted to take like a full lap of the Atlantis until he had like a mental map in his mind and he knew where the full he full lay of the land.
• 18:55
  The full lay of the land.
• 18:56
  I get that.
• 18:56
  Whereas I'm like, yeah, like that's not my worry.
• 18:59
  That's my worry.
• 19:00
  That was your worry.
• 19:01
  I need to know where everything is.
• 19:03
  This, yes.
• 19:03
  It's like the elimination of surprise.
• 19:06
  And being prepared, right?
• 19:08
  Yes.
• 19:08
  Like knowing where everything is that when I don't know all of that information, that's what makes me uneasy.
• 19:14
  Yeah.
• 19:14
  My worry is usually where is the food?
• 19:17
  Like where, where is the next meal coming from?
• 19:20
  Like, am I gonna have food in the room for the kids when they wake up?
• 19:22
  Are they gonna be like screaming for food?
• 19:25
  So my favorite place to travel with my kids is the Baja Mar.
• 19:28
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:29
  I know you've always said that.
• 19:30
  I'm obsessed with that place, and I'm sure that there are so many better places to take your family.
• 19:34
  Please share them with me.
• 19:35
  But I just love that place so much.
• 19:38
  Where we stay now is we stay in the reserves tower.
• 19:41
  So you eliminate the line for checking in the line for check-in, in the regular tower can take two hours.
• 19:47
  It's so, so massive, busy there.
• 19:49
  Massive.
• 19:50
  You get.
• 19:51
  Quick check, check in and check out.
• 19:52
  Which saves a lot of time if you've just traveled all day and you're like in and out in 15 minutes, and then there's breakfast and happy hour every day.
• 20:00
  So that's included.
• 20:02
  So you can, like, my kids can walk downstairs, they can get whatever they want to eat or drink, and then there's happy hour from five to seven.
• 20:09
  So if they don't love where we're going for dinner that night, they can eat there.
• 20:12
  I'm like, then you've already eaten something.
• 20:14
  Yep.
• 20:14
  You know, or like when they come back from the pool at five and they're starving, they can just eat there.
• 20:19
  So I love that.
• 20:20
  I put a lot of emphasis on the food.
• 20:23
  I'm always worried somebody's gonna be hungry.
• 20:25
  'cause I totally, food affects my mood.
• 20:26
  I know.
• 20:27
  Well, I feel the same way.
• 20:28
  And with like the little kids being picky and stuff like that was what I was worried about was like, what if they don't like what is at the restaurant?
• 20:35
  And but we were really lucky, grateful.
• 20:38
  I mean, I know we put a lot of thought into it.
• 20:41
  Yeah, you did.
• 20:41
  And.
• 20:42
  We were just like really happy with the outcome of it.
• 20:45
  And so I feel good I don't know if it's a milestone or it's something, it is a huge milestone.
• 20:49
  You did a family vacation, it's something under our belt.
• 20:51
  Now you're gonna do it again.
• 20:52
  Well, now we know we can travel that way.
• 20:54
  And for me, that was something I've talked about here and I've admitted that was something that really.
• 21:00
  Bothered me about how we were kind of living was that was so important to not only me, not only my husband, but our life together.
• 21:08
  Yeah.
• 21:08
  It was like something that we enjoyed doing so much.
• 21:11
  And then it also was something that my business, like my own work was kind of revolved around.
• 21:16
  So it felt like when we took that away and it wasn't intentional, it was just kind of like the way mm-hmm.
• 21:21
  Everything kind of worked, but it felt like a huge loss in like all aspects of my life.
• 21:28
  So to kind of have that back and feel good about it, and you can do it again, it feels like, to your point, like I, okay, we did the hard thing and you're like, okay, we can do this.
• 21:37
  You know?
• 21:37
  And you had an enjoyable vacation with your family.
• 21:39
  That's, we did so awesome.
• 21:40
  It was really special and we made a lot of memories.
• 21:43
  I do think that it's so important to do something like that, and I also think that.
• 21:49
  Because of the like resort aspect.
• 21:52
  Again, I know it's not always like possible to do that, but I was kind of glad that I pushed for that and it wasn't like, it wasn't for the reasons that you think like, yes, of course I don't want to have to be cooking and cleaning and all of the things that we normally have to do.
• 22:06
  It's because those things end up taking away from time with the family.
• 22:12
  Yeah.
• 22:12
  And so if you don't have to do those things, yeah, you are fully emerged in family time.
• 22:16
  You're fully Yes, exactly.
• 22:17
  And so for me, I never thought of it like that.
• 22:19
  Yes, it's so great to go away and then you're like, okay, you have all the comforts of home and you have the washer dryer and you have the dishwasher, and you have the fridge that you could stock and all of the things in your own bedroom so that you can have de like kind of time to decompress.
• 22:32
  But then.
• 22:33
  You eliminate.
• 22:35
  Mm-hmm.
• 22:35
  You know, some of the extra time to spend together to create those memories.
• 22:39
  So, because we weren't having to worry about cleaning the kitchen and, like washing the, the clothes that we brought it just it gave us more, like we were solely focused on the family.
• 22:50
  Yeah.
• 22:50
  Do you feel like it was a good time to go away?
• 22:53
  Were you ready to come home?
• 22:54
  Or like, do you feel like it was like a good time to go?
• 22:56
  We went for five nights.
• 22:57
  I think by four and a half of those days I was kind of ready for like, my old routine again.
• 23:04
  Yeah.
• 23:04
  But I think, and, but like the kids were, they could have stayed.
• 23:07
  Like, they loved it so much.
• 23:09
  They were just having the best time.
• 23:10
  What did they say about it?
• 23:11
  They loved it.
• 23:12
  They had the best time.
• 23:14
  They remember things like even from the trip now, like they're still talking about stuff and they kind of had, they made like their own little inside jokes on the trip and like their own little language that they speak together and oh my god, they had a great time and it was really nice.
• 23:27
  Like, oh my god, Layla is such a little social butterfly.
• 23:30
  The pictures you were sending us mange.
• 23:32
  And I of her like chatting it up, she was on the airplane like going down the aisles, like saying hello to everyone.
• 23:38
  She was in restaurants like turning around saying hello to everybody.
• 23:41
  Meanwhile I'm like, buried under five layers.
• 23:44
  Like please don't talk to me.
• 23:46
  I don't wanna see anybody like you.
• 23:48
  So cute.
• 23:49
  I'm not in my best moment.
• 23:50
  She's so cute.
• 23:51
  So funny.
• 23:51
  I love it.
• 23:52
  Well I'm happy that you went away Yeah.
• 23:55
  With your kids.
• 23:55
  Thank you.
• 23:56
  And thank you for the recommendation.
• 23:57
  'cause you were one of the people we had like a, we had a few people that kind of like recommended this place to us and then we, when we looked into it, we were like, okay, it makes total sense why.
• 24:06
  And now when I'm coming home from it, I've.
• 24:10
  Like, it feels like a million messages and people messaging me about it and I'm like, yes, if, if you have little kids, especially, I cannot recommend this place enough.
• 24:18
  It was the JW Marriott in Marco Island.
• 24:21
  And so it's like beachy resort, like you feel like you might be in the Caribbean vibe.
• 24:26
  Well, and also because it's on the west coast, it's on, it's on the Gulf, so you it's so beautiful.
• 24:30
  The sunsets there are sunset.
• 24:32
  Nothing else in the whole world on Unreal.
• 24:33
  They have that arcade there.
• 24:35
  The kids club.
• 24:36
  They have a waterside, like a amazing kids pool with like a zero entry.
• 24:40
  So like you don't have to worry about the kids.
• 24:42
  The beaches were huge, which was great and we would like rent a beach hut.
• 24:47
  Mm-hmm.
• 24:47
  So like we, we were had home beach far enough away from the water where they weren't gonna dart into the water.
• 24:52
  Like it was just, it was so great and the beaches were flat.
• 24:54
  The sand there is so like powdery, it doesn't get hot.
• 24:58
  It's just like literally perfection.
• 24:59
  I can go on and on and on and on.
• 25:01
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• 26:01
  But what about you?
• 26:01
  You traveled with Nick.
• 26:02
  You did like another like weekends trip.
• 26:04
  Yeah.
• 26:05
  So I mean, I know sometimes me talking about like wanting to be with my husband all the time is nauseating to some of our listeners.
• 26:12
  So mute me if you're one of those people.
• 26:15
  But I like to hang out with my husband and I don't get a chance to hang out with him when we're home because our lives just don't allow for it.
• 26:21
  You guys are so busy.
• 26:22
  Avon, Christina and Nick literally don't talk.
• 26:24
  Mm-hmm.
• 26:24
  We talk like shop, we talk like who's picking up who, who has to work today?
• 26:28
  Who has this, who has that?
• 26:29
  Like we don't speak.
• 26:30
  I don't know how you have so much going on.
• 26:32
  I don't know.
• 26:33
  How we can fix that.
• 26:34
  But for right now, our remedy is going away.
• 26:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 26:37
  So we went away with friends for a long weekend in February, I think.
• 26:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 26:42
  And that was really fun.
• 26:44
  But what happens when you go on French trip is I hang out with the girls and hangs out with the boys always.
• 26:47
  Which there's a time and a place for that too.
• 26:49
  But we got home and we were like trying to like talk and hang out and they were like, you were just away, blah, blah, blah.
• 26:55
  Give us attention.
• 26:56
  We were like, we didn't even really hang out.
• 26:58
  Yeah.
• 26:58
  Because we were away with friends.
• 26:59
  It was a friend trip.
• 27:00
  So Nick got invited to go on this work trip and the meeting was over the weekend, but we, he had to go in like two days early'cause he had to do interviews.
• 27:10
  So he's like, come with me.
• 27:11
  I only have like two, like two hour long interviews and then we can hang out just us two.
• 27:16
  Nice.
• 27:16
  So we flew out on Wednesday morning, it was like a snowstorm here.
• 27:20
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:21
  And the kids had a delay.
• 27:22
  Whatever was a nightmare.
• 27:23
  But we made it work and we had all day Wednesday and all day Thursday together and we had so much fun together.
• 27:28
  We went to the spa together.
• 27:31
  We had like drinks together.
• 27:32
  We went shopping, we went out to dinner.
• 27:34
  We like had really, really good quality time together out we got to hang out and be stupid and say all the dumb shit that we like to say to each other.
• 27:41
  Yeah.
• 27:41
  And then early Friday morning I hopped on a plane and I came home'cause I had to do the weekend.
• 27:45
  Yep.
• 27:46
  Round up.
• 27:47
  Yep.
• 27:47
  So we had to like hockey, dance, competition, all the things.
• 27:51
  But I, it was perfect to go away during the week while they were in school.
• 27:54
  That's amazing.
• 27:55
  All the things are still happening, right?
• 27:56
  Miss?
• 27:58
  Yeah.
• 27:58
  A weekend's trip is hard.
• 27:59
  When you have older kids in there and activities, the activities are on the weekends.
• 28:02
  Yeah.
• 28:02
  So it's hard to leave on the weekend.
• 28:04
  I even think just in general, it's hard to leave on the weekend because that's usually the time that we're like, this is family time.
• 28:10
  Right.
• 28:10
  And so to your point Yeah.
• 28:11
  They're looking, your kids are looking for, for that.
• 28:12
  Yeah.
• 28:12
  That's the time where they're, you know, if they're busy during the week and they have school or there's activities or caregivers during that time, yeah.
• 28:18
  It doesn't feel out of the normal, but when you lose the weekend, you feel like, okay, well that's the time.
• 28:25
  You know?
• 28:25
  So I totally agree with that.
• 28:26
  That's a good little hack.
• 28:27
  Yeah.
• 28:27
  I like a, I like a weekday vacation.
• 28:29
  We had, we had a great time.
• 28:31
  We went to the Restoration Hardware, restaurant.
• 28:34
  So Nice.
• 28:34
  I love that.
• 28:35
  That they have in Jacksonville, it's like a rooftop.
• 28:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:37
  It's so beautiful.
• 28:38
  We had like a delicious meal, which just like fun.
• 28:40
  Nothing that we're doing is like outta the ordinary, like we went shopping.
• 28:43
  No, it's just we had dinner.
• 28:45
  Dinner, we, we sat at the beach and like, yeah.
• 28:47
  Had guacamole and I drank a margarita.
• 28:50
  Like, I think that the just like being able to hang out, like uninterrupted and just getting to it feels like you're kind of dating again, right?
• 28:57
  Yeah.
• 28:58
  Like it just feels like it's back to that.
• 28:59
  It's nice.
• 29:00
  It was so much fun.
• 29:00
  But that was a week ago and I'm like, I haven't seen you since we got back.
• 29:03
  I know, right?
• 29:04
  What's up?
• 29:04
  But the anxiety of leaving my kids.
• 29:08
  Yeah.
• 29:08
  Talk to me about that.
• 29:09
  And you always say that it's, so that's like one of your things is like travel while they're young.
• 29:13
  And I'm like, what?
• 29:15
  Because I would think that it gets easier to travel as they get a little bit older and I'm thinking of that in terms of like, maybe it's less to put on other people who would step in to take care of your kids, but you're saying no.
• 29:29
  'cause the, the older the kids are, the busier they are and the more opinions they have of you leaving.
• 29:36
  Oh my God.
• 29:37
  100%.
• 29:38
  I mean, it's easier in the sense that they're theoretically easier.
• 29:43
  Like my 13-year-old in this whole now, and he's in his room, we don't, we didn't even know he was here.
• 29:46
  Right.
• 29:47
  When he was three years old, you'd very much know he was here.
• 29:49
  Right.
• 29:49
  We'd have to cancel this right recording today.
• 29:51
  Right.
• 29:51
  Or I'd have to get like a sitter or something for him.
• 29:53
  So it's easier in that sense, but it's not easier in the sense that, I have aging parents.
• 29:59
  They were also 10 years younger when we used to do this 10 years ago.
• 30:03
  And I'm like cognizant of leaving anybody who's helping me.
• 30:06
  I don't wanna put all the stuff that I have to do every day.
• 30:10
  On them, even though they're offering to do it.
• 30:12
  I'm like, it's not fair to make them drive for four hours on a Thursday.
• 30:16
  So I'm like, yeah.
• 30:16
  'cause your kids have busy lives.
• 30:18
  Like they have activities and there's, and they have early activities, and so it is a lot.
• 30:22
  Yeah.
• 30:22
  So, and then they call you and then they call you and they're crying.
• 30:25
  I want you to come home.
• 30:27
  I miss you.
• 30:27
  When they're like that little, they don't Right.
• 30:29
  They're not gonna call you.
• 30:30
  Right.
• 30:30
  They can't even really talk.
• 30:31
  Right.
• 30:32
  I want you here.
• 30:33
  Why aren't you here?
• 30:33
  And then they make you feel bad that you're not there.
• 30:36
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:36
  And then when are you coming home?
• 30:38
  Are you coming to my dance?
• 30:39
  Are you come like, they have anxiety.
• 30:40
  There's, they, they have separation anxiety.
• 30:42
  Yeah.
• 30:43
  So that's why I have such a hard time leaving them because not that I feel bad that I'm leaving them, that I feel bad that they have such anxiety that I'm gone.
• 30:51
  They love you.
• 30:51
  Yeah.
• 30:52
  And Mila said to me, but Mom, you do everything.
• 30:55
  I'm like, yeah, that's why I am leaving, because I'm taking a trip.
• 30:58
  I, I quite literally do everything.
• 31:01
  I think like one of the things that I realized though from the trip and this goes along with our episode with Christine from last week, about like doing the hard things, but it's like once.
• 31:10
  You're actually in the situation, you really can problem solve in real time.
• 31:16
  Mm-hmm.
• 31:16
  That was like, my takeaway from the trip is like, I don't have to worry in advance about all of the things that could go wrong, we'll figure it out if and when we're presented with that problem, and so that's something that I'm working through like every day because that's something I do in my life, you know, is that I like pre worry about everything.
• 31:40
  And it's unnecessary.
• 31:41
  Yes.
• 31:42
  And it's unnecessary because I think that I have all the tools and a lot of experience under my belt to problem solve in real time versus having to problem solve.
• 31:54
  So far in advance.
• 31:55
  Now, I, I don't think you know, that doesn't mean that you don't have to be prepared for anything.
• 31:59
  Mm-hmm.
• 32:00
  But I think that it's just like the mental worry.
• 32:03
  You can be proactive and say, yes, I would like to have these few things with me.
• 32:07
  You know, if we're talking about packing or I wanna have some tools at my disposal in the event that that happens.
• 32:13
  But you don't have to worry about it where it would, like, it's, it almost makes me sick to my stomach.
• 32:18
  Right.
• 32:18
  I know Joseph just got, is getting picked up right now to go play squash by one of my friend's, like one of our friend's sons kids.
• 32:24
  And one of the friends, Christina just goes, he's a man.
• 32:27
  He's a man.
• 32:28
  I'm like, what?
• 32:29
  I'm sorry, what?
• 32:29
  He's a 17-year-old man.
• 32:31
  He ferring.
• 32:32
  I'm sorry.
• 32:32
  What?
• 32:33
  I know.
• 32:33
  Well, he's had his license for a year.
• 32:34
  Now he can drive.
• 32:35
  Yeah.
• 32:35
  That's wild.
• 32:36
  It's crazy guys.
• 32:37
  It really happens fast.
• 32:38
  It's like what everyone says, you know?
• 32:40
  It's like you really blink and.
• 32:42
  I am real time seeing this, like I know.
• 32:44
  Fly by.
• 32:45
  That's wild.
• 32:45
  Okay.
• 32:46
  But anyways, back to your non-anxious statement that you just made.
• 32:49
  It's like, if you are at like a restaurant, taking your kids to a restaurant and you're worrying like, oh my God, they're gonna melt down and then they're gonna disrupt the person at the table next to us and this, and this.
• 32:58
  Okay, well, maybe you don't show up at a restaurant with them hangry.
• 33:01
  Maybe show up with some pretzels, maybe bring a little coloring thing.
• 33:05
  And then if they're melting down, just try to calm them down.
• 33:08
  Right.
• 33:09
  If people see a mother trying to soothe their child, right, right.
• 33:13
  Like, how angry can they possibly get at you?
• 33:15
  If your baby is screaming on an airplane and you are trying to calm your child down and like you are visibly looking like an actively engaged parent and you're not just like scrolling along, ignoring them, like who's gonna say anything to you?
• 33:29
  Well, I'm sure people do, but I liked to your point where you're, you need to be like, you need some level of preparation, but then you can figure the rest out.
• 33:37
  Yeah.
• 33:37
  You know what I mean?
• 33:38
  And I think that just comes with time and confidence as a mom and it, it's, it's not something overnight and it's something that I've had to work on because I feel like I've changed so much in so many ways, you know?
• 33:51
  Mm-hmm.
• 33:52
  Since becoming a mother, I'm such a different person.
• 33:54
  And in some ways I think it's so good.
• 33:56
  And then in some ways it's holding me back, you know, where I feel like I'm losing a lot of the confidence and the, but I have to just work on these things.
• 34:06
  And this was like one of those things that I had to work on.
• 34:08
  So do you feel like this was a huge confidence boost to you?
• 34:10
  This was a huge confidence boost to me.
• 34:12
  What ways do you feel like, like what areas specifically are you not, do you feel like you're not confident in yet?
• 34:17
  Yet?
• 34:17
  Well, you get quite yet.
• 34:18
  Well, you just gave that example where these were things that like maybe prior to the last.
• 34:24
  Year, maybe like I, I panic and like, I don't wanna go to a restaurant even around here because I don't want one of the kids to melt down.
• 34:32
  I, because you don't want them to disrupt other people.
• 34:34
  But that's what your worry is.
• 34:35
  I have had, I think that what I've been struggling with the last couple of years is like the, it's, I don't know if it's even considered postpartum anxiety anymore or if it's just almost like a freaking lifestyle at this point.
• 34:48
  You know, where it's, I know it started in the postpartum way with the intrusive thoughts and like what ifs and, all of that.
• 34:55
  But it just has snowballed.
• 34:58
  So it's, I can control what I can control in my own home, right?
• 35:02
  And so that's why I've been so rigid, regimented, and scheduled with the kids because it's what I can control when we remove the house and our kind of safe space and then my ability, ability to control things, then we're kind of like, it feels like to me like we're in the wild, wild west.
• 35:21
  And so when we remove ourselves from the bubble.
• 35:24
  Then there's all these other variables that I can't really control.
• 35:28
  And so I usually stop myself from even doing that.
• 35:33
  So I don't, so then you do a lot of the things, right?
• 35:35
  Like I don't, we don't venture out.
• 35:37
  This has changed a lot over the last year, I would say.
• 35:40
  As I started to get more mentally healthy, I feel like things aren't as big of a deal as they were in my head.
• 35:47
  But if you asked me a year ago, everything was a big deal to do an any sort of outing with the kids, it was very stressful.
• 35:55
  I think that there are, you know, to people that don't experience that level of anxiety, it might sound ridiculous, but I think that if anybody has experienced any sort of anxiety, especially any sort of postpartum or any anxiety around having kids and being with your kids and all of the things that come along with that, I think that people probably could relate to that.
• 36:16
  Of course, like when we had Lauren on, she had talked a lot about like anxiety.
• 36:20
  A couple of weeks ago, and I was resonating with a lot of the things she was talking about when she was like a, a younger mom and all of the things that were going on and was like, well, that's how I am now.
• 36:31
  A grocery store used to.
• 36:33
  Yes.
• 36:33
  She send her right back to the car.
• 36:34
  Yes.
• 36:35
  Like anything like that, like it's like all of the things that can go wrong and all the things that go on in your mind, like the what ifs and the worst case scenarios.
• 36:44
  And so I've just kind of had to learn as I've spent time working on myself, like I've had to work through those and it's one of those things where you unfortunately just have to do it.
• 36:57
  It's like lived experience.
• 36:58
  Yeah.
• 36:58
  Like you have to push yourself to do it.
• 37:02
  Know that.
• 37:03
  Yes.
• 37:03
  If you take them somewhere and they melt down, you figure it out in real time and then the next time you go to take them out.
• 37:10
  You're gonna feel a little bit more confident because you, you made it work last time.
• 37:14
  Right.
• 37:14
  Don't you find that kids sometimes are so entertained when they leave the house?
• 37:18
  They, they're easier.
• 37:19
  That sometimes they're easier.
• 37:20
  A lot of the time they're easier.
• 37:21
  Like they're just entertained, but they're entertained by the dinner.
• 37:24
  Yeah.
• 37:24
  You're not getting up from the table to get them their water.
• 37:28
  They're next course you're there with them, like playing tic-tac toe or doing whatever.
• 37:33
  So like you're engaging with them.
• 37:34
  Yeah.
• 37:34
  So sometimes dinner is a whole activity.
• 37:37
  If you can get outta your head and past your own bullshit of what if they meltdown?
• 37:41
  What if we disrupt the person next to us?
• 37:42
  What if they break something?
• 37:43
  What if, what if, what if like, yeah.
• 37:45
  What if they're entertained?
• 37:46
  What if this is a good experience?
• 37:48
  Yeah.
• 37:48
  What if this is fun?
• 37:49
  What if they eat something new that they've never tried before?
• 37:52
  What if we find out our kid likes steak and sushi and like, I don't know.
• 37:56
  What if this is like our reming fun activity?
• 37:59
  It's reframing.
• 38:00
  Yes.
• 38:02
  Yes.
• 38:02
  But you, I can recite all of those things because I've tried it now and I've taken them out to eat and it ended up, it ends up being like a fun activity now.
• 38:10
  Yeah.
• 38:10
  I'm not saying my kids don't meltdown at dinner.
• 38:13
  Of course they do, but they also are distracted at dinner.
• 38:16
  But nobody also had, but then you're, to your point, all of these other things come up that overshadow.
• 38:22
  Yeah.
• 38:23
  But the negative, so if you have a positive, it can overshadow the negative.
• 38:27
  Right.
• 38:27
  And if you have.
• 38:28
  More and more positives, then it starts to overshadow all of the negatives that you're worrying about, and so then you can kind of, instead of just worrying and making it a negative kind of experience, right, before it even happens, right?
• 38:40
  Your mind is kind of like, well, the last time yeah, we, we ended up having fun and that ended up being a memory and then that sort of takes over, right?
• 38:49
  The anxiety, right?
• 38:50
  Like what if you are trying to teach your kids good manners?
• 38:53
  What if you go to a restaurant and then they finally look at a server and say, may I please have apple juice?
• 38:58
  Like, what if that's the moment you're like, oh, wow.
• 39:01
  Right?
• 39:01
  My kid is listening to me and isn't a complete jerk.
• 39:03
  Right.
• 39:03
  Even though she's screaming at me the whole way here, right?
• 39:07
  We get out to the restaurant and she's polite, like, I don't know.
• 39:10
  There's, there's sometimes you just have to go for it because sometimes the what ifs, the real life, what ifs aren't bad and the mind what ifs are torture.
• 39:20
  I feel like our motto, the last like several weeks and all of the messaging and all the guests that we've had on has just been like about.
• 39:27
  Putting yourself out there.
• 39:29
  Mm-hmm.
• 39:29
  And I feel like this is like another example of just like, you have to just do something, you know?
• 39:35
  And a lot of the times it helps with whatever you're struggling with, oh, 100%.
• 39:41
  100%.
• 39:42
  We're going to dinner tonight.
• 39:43
  I think I told you.
• 39:44
  We're going to my brother-in-law's restaurant and I packed a dinner bag for the kids and I used to do these all the time when they were little.
• 39:50
  And I would keep it in the car and I would put like one of those scrubby pets.
• 39:54
  Have you seen those yet?
• 39:56
  They're these little white, they look like a little pet.
• 39:59
  And then they come with three markers.
• 40:02
  And then what you do is you dip your marker into water.
• 40:05
  The marker is white.
• 40:05
  Oh.
• 40:06
  So it can't, it's not gonna get anything else.
• 40:08
  But when the marker gets a little wet and you like, oh.
• 40:12
  Color on the scrubby pet.
• 40:14
  It like makes a color and then you can like wet the scrubby pet and like scrub it off and do it again.
• 40:19
  And so they're like, I know it's like a reusable color.
• 40:21
  Is that kind of, it's a reusable coloring book, but it's like a little miniature pet that then they can like play with.
• 40:25
  Yep.
• 40:26
  And I think they're like 3 99.
• 40:28
  We usually end up throwing the whole thing away, but it's like an activity, a dinner.
• 40:31
  So I used to always have these activities at dinner and I stopped doing them and the girls were like, now they're like into the squishies and oh, I need this in my, you know, toolkit to calm me down.
• 40:42
  So I reintroduced the dinner bag.
• 40:45
  So you have all the things.
• 40:46
  I have all the things in there again.
• 40:47
  Yeah.
• 40:47
  It's like they're toddlers again.
• 40:49
  Yeah, but they're not like, Joseph's like, where's my scrubby pet?
• 40:52
  I'm like, you are almost 13 and you're gonna order a steak and like a martini at dinner tonight.
• 40:56
  And you want a scrubby pet?
• 40:57
  Fine.
• 40:58
  I'll get one for you.
• 41:00
  I love the dinner bag.
• 41:01
  No, but bring a dinner bag.
• 41:03
  They're so fun.
• 41:03
  And it's not the stuff that they have here at home, it's like something special for while you're out.
• 41:07
  Do you have any travel hacks that you discovered while you were gone that you could like share with a mom?
• 41:12
  'cause spring break is coming up.
• 41:13
  People are gonna be traveling in in, in April.
• 41:15
  Mm-hmm.
• 41:16
  Like what is something that you would say to somebody like, what's a travel hack for like the plane ride there?
• 41:20
  Anything come up for that?
• 41:21
  We did have, we kind of had like the travel bag of like the things to kind of pull out and keep them distracted.
• 41:26
  I thought I was doing such a like.
• 41:31
  Service to myself by, I went on Disney Plus and downloaded a bunch of movies and like things that they like to watch, like Bluey and you know, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and Moana and all the things that they like.
• 41:43
  And I seriously spent time downloading all these things, right?
• 41:46
  So they could access it on the plane.
• 41:47
  And when we get to the plane and we didn't have wifi, so it didn't work.
• 41:52
  Oh, no.
• 41:52
  And I was like, I'm sorry, am I dumb?
• 41:54
  Like I, oh, it wasn't downloaded?
• 41:55
  It wasn't actually downloaded.
• 41:56
  Oh.
• 41:56
  I couldn't actually access the app without wifi, so I did have to buy wifi on the plane.
• 42:02
  That was the only way I could get it to work.
• 42:04
  Okay.
• 42:04
  Was I had to buy wifi on the plane, then I could open up Disney Plus.
• 42:08
  But then I was like, then this is stupid because now I could just access anything that I have, but whatever.
• 42:13
  Um.
• 42:14
  But it wa I don't know.
• 42:15
  I don't know why that happened, so I can't give advice for that.
• 42:18
  Maybe someone needs to give me advice for that, but my Pink Spotlight is gonna be another one.
• 42:23
  I can wait for that though.
• 42:25
  Okay.
• 42:25
  So I'll give you advice for that.
• 42:27
  Yeah, tell me'cause I need that before you leave the house.
• 42:28
  Yeah.
• 42:29
  Turn off the wifi and put your device on airplane mode.
• 42:32
  So you can see like, okay, well this app even works.
• 42:36
  Oh.
• 42:36
  Because the last thing you wanna do is to hand your kid an iPad.
• 42:40
  Well, that's what basically happens.
• 42:41
  And then have them be like, it's not working, and then it like, makes it almost worse.
• 42:45
  Oh my God.
• 42:45
  So that is such a good, that would've put on airplane at home.
• 42:49
  What do you think?
• 42:49
  I of course did that.
• 42:50
  Oh, panic.
• 42:51
  Panic.
• 42:51
  And you're like big wifi.
• 42:52
  No, no.
• 42:52
  Before that.
• 42:53
  Before that.
• 42:54
  Promised the world.
• 42:56
  Oh.
• 42:56
  Oh, I'm sure guys.
• 42:58
  Wait till you see what you're going to get to do on the plane.
• 43:00
  Yeah.
• 43:00
  To watch unlimited unlimit.
• 43:01
  Unlimit and I have all this.
• 43:02
  Yeah.
• 43:03
  Unlimited bluey and like all of the episodes that they love of that.
• 43:06
  And I went through individually picking the ones that they love and then they couldn't get it and they, I was like, oh my god, that, so that is such a good tip.
• 43:14
  I've been there before.
• 43:15
  That is such a good tip so many times.
• 43:17
  'cause you're like, oh my God, I thought I was preparing myself and like showing up kind of ready to go.
• 43:22
  And I was it, do you have fire tablets or the app?
• 43:24
  I had, no, we were just using our iPad.
• 43:26
  Oh.
• 43:26
  Like the family.
• 43:27
  Like we have a family iPad.
• 43:28
  Yeah.
• 43:28
  And that's, yeah.
• 43:29
  And so, no, I had no idea that none of these things would work.
• 43:33
  And of course, that's a really good tip.
• 43:35
  Yeah.
• 43:35
  I do it for myself too.
• 43:37
  Yeah.
• 43:37
  Because that's like a good way for me to know, like, okay, did I actually download this podcast?
• 43:41
  Right.
• 43:41
  Or is my audio book downloaded?
• 43:43
  So I just turn it onto airplane mode.
• 43:46
  Okay, so you do a little trial and error before, right?
• 43:48
  Yeah.
• 43:48
  Love that.
• 43:49
  Trial and error before any other, you're, I feel like you're.
• 43:52
  So Mila's dance team packs these snack boxes for all the dance competition.
• 43:56
  Have you heard of Thele Box?
• 43:58
  I, I just don't have the little snack box.
• 43:59
  I think it comes from the word like bait and tap isles.
• 44:02
  It's like from a fishing.
• 44:03
  Fishing, because it, that's what it looks like.
• 44:05
  Yep.
• 44:05
  We like bedazzled, ours, I'm like a big, so cute.
• 44:09
  A learn now it's basically like a little container with compartments.
• 44:12
  Yeah.
• 44:13
  And so you can put a bunch of different snacks together, like with one lid.
• 44:16
  Right.
• 44:16
  But there's different compartments, so Right.
• 44:18
  So we have like a little bit of pirate booty.
• 44:20
  A little bit of pretzel.
• 44:20
  I love that.
• 44:21
  A, that bit of beef jerky, like Swedish fish.
• 44:24
  So you can put fruit in there.
• 44:25
  Yep.
• 44:26
  You can put like a little vegetable.
• 44:27
  That's so cute.
• 44:27
  Our snack boxes are not healthy.
• 44:29
  They are just No, no.
• 44:30
  They're pure garbage.
• 44:31
  That's fine.
• 44:32
  But the girls make their own snack boxes before we travel because then they'll eat it and they'll enjoy it.
• 44:38
  We did have a bunch of snacks with us.
• 44:40
  'cause I do, I think that that is a hundred percent necessary.
• 44:42
  And someone gave us this advice a long time ago that on travel days or any day where you're like experiencing some sort of disruption and the advice was it's not a real day.
• 44:54
  And I was like, I love that because I need to hear that.
• 44:57
  You know?
• 44:57
  So basically like you're not trying to keep them on a schedule.
• 45:02
  If they nap.
• 45:04
  In a random part of the day.
• 45:06
  That's a nap.
• 45:06
  That's the nap.
• 45:07
  And like if they if they're snacking all day and they don't have a real meal, that's okay.
• 45:12
  And so that like what Good advice, I love that.
• 45:15
  It's like, so like Raja and I looked at each other that day, today's not real.
• 45:18
  And we were like, today's not our real day.
• 45:20
  Like, it's like as much TV the naps happen when they, whenever they happen or if they skip'em, they skip'em.
• 45:26
  They're, you know, they have as many snacks as they want because you're basically just trying to keep everybody happy.
• 45:31
  Mm-hmm.
• 45:32
  For the whole time.
• 45:32
  And it kind of.
• 45:33
  That mindset just made me like, it's okay.
• 45:35
  You're not derailing all of your parenting that you've put in all this effort and it's alright.
• 45:40
  Right.
• 45:40
  So for two of the days we lived off of the snacks, just, it was like, sure.
• 45:44
  Keep the snacks coming.
• 45:46
  Like just out of the bag.
• 45:47
  Did you drink coffee?
• 45:47
  I swear.
• 45:48
  No.
• 45:49
  I brought Mya.
• 45:50
  You brought your matcha.
• 45:50
  Brought I that my matcha with me.
• 45:52
  I brought,'cause of course me being the psychopath I am, I like went on their site on the, the hotel and I was like, is there a matcha anywhere on the menu?
• 46:01
  And it, there was not, to my knowledge, that's not a psycho thing to do.
• 46:04
  I got, I love when I got there I was like double checking and I did not see a matcha anywhere on any menu.
• 46:09
  Even in the um, even in the little coffee places.
• 46:12
  Okay.
• 46:12
  I just didn't see one.
• 46:13
  Maybe you had one.
• 46:14
  All you have to do is do hot water.
• 46:15
  Yep.
• 46:15
  I brought little did ice.
• 46:16
  I did ice matcha too.
• 46:18
  So I just love it.
• 46:18
  Became it.
• 46:19
  I brought my own matcha powder and I brought it with me to breakfast and I was like scooping it.
• 46:23
  I think that that's a genius.
• 46:24
  And I brought my little whisk too, my little electric whisk.
• 46:27
  I have like a small one.
• 46:28
  Yeah.
• 46:28
  And I was doing, yep.
• 46:29
  I think that that's great.
• 46:30
  If you had diabetes, you wouldn't forget your insulin at home.
• 46:34
  So what is wrong with this?
• 46:35
  Um, I don't think they're exactly the same, but Sure.
• 46:37
  I like where you're going with this, but thank you.
• 46:41
  I guess you're right.
• 46:42
  It's pretty extreme.
• 46:43
  But anyways, so yes.
• 46:44
  If Pippa, if you have any travel advice with us, I always just feel like, I love the one-liners from other moms of like, you need this.
• 46:51
  Or like, this is how, like a little tip or trick or something because it's, I always get the best advice from other, somebody gave me this advice once.
• 46:59
  Oh, who was it?
• 47:00
  It was one of my friends at older kids and they said, when you're packing for your family in a Ziploc bag pack, travel, home clothes, because sometimes all of the clothes end up getting thrown around the hotel room or they get dirty or a mess.
• 47:14
  Or sometimes then the kids end up wearing the travel home outfit.
• 47:17
  Yes.
• 47:17
  And then you're like, they have nothing to wear alone.
• 47:18
  At the end of the trip everybody's like maybe too tired or grumpy or whatever.
• 47:22
  Yeah.
• 47:22
  By the end of the trip.
• 47:23
  And you just wanna get them home, but you just want like a fresh outfit to wear.
• 47:28
  Yep.
• 47:28
  Cozy.
• 47:28
  Like a cozy outfit.
• 47:29
  Yep.
• 47:29
  So I always pack a home outfit and a Ziploc bag.
• 47:32
  Very smart.
• 47:32
  And I keep it in my bag so they don't separate access it.
• 47:35
  I love it and whatever.
• 47:36
  And it's usually just leggings and a long sleeve shirt are for the boys, like sweats and a long sleeve Yep.
• 47:42
  Shirt.
• 47:42
  So that's my other like travel.
• 47:44
  I love that tip.
• 47:46
  My last one, i'm gonna share it for my pink spotlight.
• 47:49
  'cause I loved it.
• 47:50
  It was so, you guys already know, I already spoiled it.
• 47:52
  But our pink spotlight again is our tip of the week.
• 47:55
  So like a person, place, thing, tip, mantra, anything.
• 47:58
  Making life a little bit better.
• 48:00
  Mine this week is our double stroller.
• 48:03
  Ooh.
• 48:03
  So again, it was one of these things I went back and forth on like, what double stroller should we get?
• 48:09
  I looked up like all different ones.
• 48:11
  There was some available on Amazon that were like a lot less, there were crazy expensive ones.
• 48:16
  I was doing like a lot of research on it and I knew we needed one because, especially when we booked this resort, because again, this resort was huge.
• 48:26
  This was, it was a convention center.
• 48:28
  Wow.
• 48:28
  So it was to go from even the room to breakfast was probably like a 10 minute walk.
• 48:34
  Like it was, yeah.
• 48:35
  Even like room to, yep.
• 48:37
  Elevator and down and whatever's, lot you, you can eliminate those extra steps for those little legs.
• 48:42
  Exactly.
• 48:42
  So I knew we wa we wanted to bring a double stroller, like my husband was, was even like, oh, do you think we need that?
• 48:47
  And I was like, yes, we're definitely going to need it.
• 48:49
  Like, imagine like having to lug all of the things and them and then one of them doesn't wanna walk.
• 48:55
  And so, you know, and I did a ton of research, ended up settling on the Silver Cross Jet double stroller.
• 49:03
  Mm-hmm.
• 49:03
  So it's a side-by-side stroller.
• 49:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 49:05
  It's our fourth silver cross stroller, which is insane to say, but I feel like when you like have kids, you're like, there's so many different things that you need strollers for.
• 49:14
  We had, my God, like God, the Silver Cross stroller, that was like the bassinet and the jump seat.
• 49:18
  And then we had a single one and then we had the jet.
• 49:22
  Single stroller.
• 49:23
  Mm-hmm.
• 49:23
  That was like a travel stroller.
• 49:24
  So this one is a double side-by-side stroller was a hundred percent necessary.
• 49:30
  And there was storage on the bottom.
• 49:32
  The reason why I ended up with this one and not going with one from Amazon is because of the weight limit.
• 49:38
  So the weight limit was 50 pounds per seat, which means that, like Leo is almost four and he's I think in hi in the mid thirties.
• 49:46
  So we have like a ways to go where we can like mm-hmm.
• 49:49
  He can use the stroller.
• 49:50
  A lot of them were like capped out at 40 or even under.
• 49:53
  Mm-hmm.
• 49:54
  And so you lose like, you know, as soon as the kid kind of outgrows it, then there's worry that it's, you know, you don't want it to topple over or the weight to be off or something.
• 50:01
  So I was like, we have a ways to go if, if, if it's 50 pounds and then we can use it.
• 50:06
  It's like Disney friendly.
• 50:07
  Mm-hmm.
• 50:07
  So there was like other things I knew that investment was gonna go, does it recline if they wanna lay back?
• 50:12
  Not only reclines, but each individual seat reclines.
• 50:15
  Aw, that's changer.
• 50:15
  So like Changer, which is so nice.
• 50:16
  Game changer.
• 50:16
  Nice changer.
• 50:16
  I was figuring the same thing, like if one of them wanted to nap and the other one didn't.
• 50:21
  And there's storage on the bottom, which is great.
• 50:23
  And then it just folds up in like two seconds.
• 50:26
  Like you just literally press two buttons on the side and it collapses.
• 50:30
  We were able to gate check it.
• 50:32
  We ended up getting the bag too, so that we could, you know, it wouldn't get damaged.
• 50:36
  It had like snack containers.
• 50:37
  There's like a drink thing.
• 50:39
  It is like, it's just the, it's like the minivan.
• 50:41
  Van of the strollers.
• 50:42
  Yes.
• 50:42
  And we were like, and what was so nice about it was that it collapsed so easily so we could like collapse it and put it in the room and it didn't take up a ton of space.
• 50:50
  And then even at some of the restaurants, we would just collapse, check it at the door, and then just either keep it by the door or we would like sneak it behind our table.
• 50:57
  So we were like, oh, okay.
• 50:58
  We just had it and it.
• 51:00
  Opened easily.
• 51:01
  It was literally just the best today.
• 51:03
  Oh, I love that.
• 51:04
  And sometimes my husband thinks I'm just like, he's like, we need another stroller.
• 51:07
  I'm like, we do.
• 51:08
  'cause like now we're getting into the place where it's like we need, if we're gonna be going on these trips and stuff, we need them to be able to hop in easily and we wanna be able to collapse it easily.
• 51:19
  Like you don't wanna be that parent that's standing there where you're like, I have no idea how this works.
• 51:23
  It's literally two buttons and it just collapses.
• 51:26
  Right.
• 51:26
  It's insane.
• 51:27
  So our garage was a stroller graveyard.
• 51:30
  I know for many, many years.
• 51:31
  People think it's ridiculous, but you're like, I don't know.
• 51:33
  There's just so many different, we had.
• 51:34
  We had the snap and go.
• 51:36
  Remember this?
• 51:36
  Did you have a snap and go?
• 51:38
  A snap and go is just a like a metal frame.
• 51:40
  Yep.
• 51:40
  It has like small wheels and all it does is it holds the car seat in it.
• 51:44
  Yes.
• 51:44
  Okay.
• 51:44
  And I had a single snap and go for Joseph.
• 51:47
  Then I had a double snap and go for the girls.
• 51:49
  I had a single stroller for Joseph.
• 51:51
  Then I had an umbrella single stroller for Joseph.
• 51:53
  Then I had a double umbrella stroller.
• 51:55
  Then I had a double jogging stroller.
• 51:57
  Right.
• 51:57
  Then I had the twins and I had the tandem stroller.
• 52:00
  Yes.
• 52:01
  That's because the double one was too wide.
• 52:03
  Too wide.
• 52:03
  Yep.
• 52:04
  Go like holding onto a two, like a 3-year-old and pushing the girls.
• 52:08
  Yep.
• 52:08
  So we had so many freaking strollers and then I started using the cheapo$10 one from Walmart.
• 52:14
  And Nick is like, I'm throwing everything away.
• 52:18
  They're all gone.
• 52:19
  But we still have our wagon.
• 52:20
  I haven't gotten rid of the wagon yet.
• 52:21
  We have a wagon tail.
• 52:23
  The wagon is, I love the wagon.
• 52:24
  I know the wagon is the best.
• 52:26
  There's like nothing like that stupid wagon.
• 52:28
  I know, I agree with you.
• 52:30
  But yeah, we had, we loved this.
• 52:31
  I highly recommend it.
• 52:32
  People were asking like, yeah, oh, do you need it?
• 52:35
  And I'm like, you do.
• 52:36
  Like you need you, if you don't have, if you don't if you have a kid that's old enough to walk and wouldn't get tired walking around a resort like that, everybody gets tired walking around.
• 52:44
  But if you have a little one, one or a few, like, yes, you, you need one.
• 52:49
  Like, oh, I love that.
• 52:50
  That's such a good recommendation because it's so overwhelming picking equipment like this.
• 52:54
  It it, so if you see somebody is ridiculous out in the wild using it and they're like, wait, you folded that up quickly.
• 53:00
  Yep.
• 53:00
  And that like, it holds all your stuff done purchased.
• 53:04
  And it's what to your point too is that like you need some of these things for different.
• 53:09
  Like there for different circumstances.
• 53:11
  Like for us, we need a different stroller.
• 53:14
  Like, because we live in such a hilly neighborhood.
• 53:17
  Mm-hmm.
• 53:17
  Like those wheels, those we need the big wheels.
• 53:19
  If you're in a city, like you might have something like this and that's all you use, you know?
• 53:24
  Mm-hmm.
• 53:24
  So it just completely depends on your situation.
• 53:26
  But I would really this, but you could probably use this for walks.
• 53:28
  We could, yeah.
• 53:29
  It was great.
• 53:29
  Great advice.
• 53:30
  Great advice.
• 53:30
  I love the video that you made for socials about the show, the Traveling, like a horror movie, the, oh, yeah.
• 53:36
  That was so good.
• 53:37
  What was funny is that I, I had to stretch it because they did so well on both of the flights.
• 53:45
  Like it's still, but it was a horror movie.
• 53:48
  It was horror because it's just yeah, like they were, I'm talking more all the stuff that you're bringing, it's all the shit, all the suitcases and wiping down the surfaces.
• 53:55
  Like the irony of the whole thing is actually your kids were perfect.
• 53:58
  They were great.
• 53:59
  They did as well as they could have.
• 54:01
  And it's still a horror movie, you know what I mean?
• 54:03
  Because it's like Layla was like walking around saying hi to everyone, taking her socks off in the middle of the aisle, you know, like they're biting each other playing and Who wants this seat and I want this snack.
• 54:15
  And, you know, so it's.
• 54:15
  Still like, you know, it's still a shit show.
• 54:18
  Oh my God.
• 54:18
  But they did.
• 54:18
  They did as well as they could have.
• 54:20
  So I had to really stretch.
• 54:21
  Raj was like, you really had to stretch that one out there because they did great.
• 54:25
  But it's funny.
• 54:25
  It was funny.
• 54:26
  Yeah.
• 54:26
  Oh, I love that.
• 54:27
  Thank you.
• 54:27
  That was good, mom.
• 54:28
  That was a good like mom humor.
• 54:30
  Yeah.
• 54:30
  Very relatable.
• 54:32
  Oh good.
• 54:33
  What about you?
• 54:33
  What's your spot?
• 54:34
  Alright.
• 54:34
  Right, so I have a product for this week.
• 54:36
  Yeah, I'll do a show and tell we've been getting lots of fun products set to the Pippa office lately, but this one stood out to me.
• 54:43
  So we were at a Yukon game a few weeks ago, and Nick was like, oh my God, there's a Bori booth over there.
• 54:47
  And it bori makes me, when I think of the brand Bori, I think of like in eighth.
• 54:52
  Like eighth grade, Christina.
• 54:53
  Because I remember I would wear the, The, or like the nasal pass patch that would like take off the blackhead.
• 55:00
  The blackheads.
• 55:01
  Yep.
• 55:01
  And I remember my first bout of skincare was Bori, and I remember seeing like the Bori commercials on tv.
• 55:06
  Yeah.
• 55:06
  That's such a millennial brand.
• 55:08
  It is such a millennial brand.
• 55:10
  Oh my God.
• 55:10
  Yeah.
• 55:10
  So they still of course have like the pimple patches and the nose patches, but they sent us this insane sunscreen.
• 55:17
  So I know like the Korean sunscreen is all the rage right now.
• 55:20
  Yes.
• 55:20
  Yep.
• 55:20
  And this mimics that feel of the Korean sunscreen.
• 55:25
  So I will be honest, I sometimes neglect the sunscreen step, because a lot of sunscreen feels like you're putting like.
• 55:33
  White heavy.
• 55:34
  Yes.
• 55:34
  It's like, yes.
• 55:35
  Chemicals on your face.
• 55:36
  It doesn't actually feel like, it's like my makeup's gonna sit on top of it.
• 55:39
  And sometimes, like the makeup I wear is, has sunscreen in it, but the one that I've been using recently does not have sunscreen in it, so I need to wear sunscreen.
• 55:49
  And this is insane.
• 55:51
  It looks white.
• 55:52
  Mm-hmm.
• 55:52
  Sunscreen.
• 55:53
  Mm-hmm.
• 55:53
  But it blends into your skin.
• 55:56
  Wow.
• 55:56
  It, it immediately, literally melts into your skin immediately and it smells Oh my gosh.
• 56:02
  It smells so good.
• 56:03
  I know.
• 56:03
  I'm so mad that I didn't have this before my trip'cause I would've loved to try it, but, and it's SPF 50 I, so it's, yeah.
• 56:08
  This is the bre uv.
• 56:10
  It's aqua rich SPF 50.
• 56:13
  It smells amazing.
• 56:14
  It is.
• 56:15
  So, and it's, it's definitely like a the texture of it is like silky.
• 56:21
  It's so cute.
• 56:21
  So it's not Yeah, it's very silky.
• 56:23
  It's under$20.
• 56:24
  Wow, wow, wow, wow.
• 56:25
  It's a great price and it's, it's awesome.
• 56:28
  We had Olga on, Olga was the aesthetician that we had on a couple weeks back, and if you didn't go listen to that episode, definitely listen to it.
• 56:35
  She talked about the importance of sunscreen and not missing that step, just about how important that step is.
• 56:42
  So like, this makes it very easy.
• 56:43
  This already blended in and I could totally see you wearing makeup on top of this.
• 56:47
  I have it.
• 56:47
  This my face right now.
• 56:47
  Yes.
• 56:48
  It kind of gives your face a glow.
• 56:49
  Yeah, it makes, it made my hand glowy.
• 56:51
  Well, this one's yours.
• 56:52
  I love it.
• 56:53
  It home and try it out.
• 56:53
  It.
• 56:53
  Now wait to try this it.
• 56:55
  Great.
• 56:55
  Fine.
• 56:56
  It's such it.
• 56:57
  Thank you Bey.
• 56:57
  It is such a good product.
• 56:59
  I'm obsessed with it.
• 57:00
  I love it.
• 57:00
  I also love like a drugstore find, like, I just feel like same.
• 57:03
  I, that's great.
• 57:05
  It's, it's like an elite drugstore find.
• 57:06
  They sell it at Ulta, you know?
• 57:08
  Yep.
• 57:09
  Amazon, all the different places.
• 57:10
  I love it.
• 57:11
  And Olga said, you don't need to spend a lot of money on sunscreen.
• 57:14
  Just make sure you have it on your face.
• 57:15
  Yep.
• 57:16
  This, yep.
• 57:16
  That's great.
• 57:17
  Good advice.
• 57:17
  So I love it.
• 57:19
  And yeah, I wore it when we were in Florida last week.
• 57:21
  It smells so good.
• 57:22
  I didn't get right on my face at all.
• 57:24
  Oh, it smells so good.
• 57:25
  I actually put a lot of sunscreen on my whole body when I was on that trip.
• 57:28
  Mm-hmm.
• 57:28
  Because I have a bad habit of forgetting, just laying out in the sun in general.
• 57:32
  Mm-hmm.
• 57:32
  And then burning myself.
• 57:34
  And then I'm like, why do I have age spots and sun spots?
• 57:38
  What am I doing wrong?
• 57:41
  This is wrong.
• 57:42
  Oh my God.
• 57:43
  I'm sitting here smelling my head.
• 57:44
  Wait, doesn't it smell good?
• 57:44
  Smell so good smell.
• 57:45
  I'm obsessed and my hands are now so soft.
• 57:47
  So I'm obsessed.
• 57:48
  I cannot wait to put this on.
• 57:50
  I just, I think it's a millennial brand for sure.
• 57:52
  Love it.
• 57:53
  Okay.
• 57:53
  Well, thank you Bre.
• 57:55
  That's amazing.
• 57:56
  Yeah.
• 57:56
  And okay, oh, we have Jane Sullivan coming on next week.
• 58:00
  Oh, that's gonna be so exciting.
• 58:02
  And so she's a financial advisor and her niche is that she advises mainly women as like the breadwinners in the family.
• 58:10
  That's like her niche field.
• 58:12
  A lot of the other people that she works with in her office are women, so she's awesome.
• 58:17
  That's gonna awesome.
• 58:17
  Be really exciting.
• 58:17
  Awesome.
• 58:17
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• 58:20
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• 58:20
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• 58:21
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• 58:25
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• 58:29
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• 58:29
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• 58:30
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• 58:37
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• 58:40
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• 58:40
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• 58:45
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• 58:46
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• 58:49
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• 58:49
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• 58:51
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• 58:51
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• 58:52
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