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Rethinking Comics: The Scoop on Ice Cream Man #5 (Lickety-Splat) · Systematic Geekology

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Welcome
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to
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Rethinking
0:29
Comics,
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a
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collaborative
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podcast
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series
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from
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Systematic
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Geekology
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and
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Rethinking
0:34
Faith.
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I
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am
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Josh
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Patterson,
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a
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former
0:36
pastor
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turned
0:37
brewer
0:38
with
0:38
a
0:38
deep
0:38
love
0:39
of
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theology
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and
0:40
philosophy.
0:41
Although
0:41
I
0:41
don't
0:42
always
0:42
wear
0:42
the
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label
0:42
comfortably,
0:43
Christianity
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seems
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to
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be
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baked
0:45
into
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who
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I
0:46
am.
0:46
Currently,
0:47
I
0:47
find
0:47
myself
0:48
drawn
0:48
into
0:48
process
0:49
in
0:49
radical
0:49
theology
0:50
and
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and
0:50
have
0:51
made
0:51
friends
0:51
amongst
0:52
the
0:52
mystics.
0:53
And
0:53
I'm
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Joshua
0:54
Null,
0:54
a
0:54
former
0:54
youth
0:55
pastor
0:55
and
0:55
comic
0:56
book
0:56
geek.
0:56
Currently,
0:57
I
0:57
find
0:57
myself
0:57
drawn
0:58
to
0:58
open
0:58
and
0:58
relational
0:58
theology,
0:59
yet
0:59
still
1:00
clinging
1:00
to
1:00
a
1:00
love
1:00
of
1:01
historical,
1:01
biblical
1:01
and
1:02
even
1:02
creedal
1:02
theology.
1:03
Even
1:03
still,
1:04
I
1:04
have
1:04
found
1:04
sometimes
1:05
the
1:05
stories
1:05
that
1:05
have
1:06
been
1:06
the
1:06
most
1:06
meaningful
1:07
to
1:07
me
1:07
are
1:07
not
1:07
always
1:07
found
1:08
in
1:08
sacred
1:08
text,
1:09
but
1:09
occasionally
1:10
are
1:10
found
1:10
in
1:11
comic
1:11
books
1:11
and
1:11
graphic
1:12
novels
1:12
instead.
1:13
I've
1:13
invited
1:13
my
1:14
friend
1:14
Josh
1:14
Patterson
1:15
to
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share
1:15
in
1:15
some
1:15
of
1:16
these
1:16
stories
1:16
that
1:16
have
1:16
meant
1:17
the
1:17
most
1:17
to
1:17
me
1:17
personally,
1:18
and
1:18
he
1:18
said,
1:19
sure.
1:20
We
1:20
want
1:20
to
1:21
invite
1:21
all
1:21
of
1:21
you
1:21
to
1:22
join
1:22
in
1:22
this
1:22
journey
1:23
with
1:23
us
1:23
together.
1:24
We
1:24
may
1:24
not
1:25
always
1:25
agree
1:25
with
1:25
one
1:26
another
1:26
or
1:26
the
1:26
messages
1:26
we
1:27
find
1:27
in
1:27
these
1:27
stories,
1:27
but
1:28
we
1:28
do
1:28
respect
1:28
one
1:28
another
1:29
and
1:29
the
1:29
teams
1:29
of
1:29
people
1:30
it
1:30
takes
1:30
to
1:30
put
1:30
each
1:30
of
1:31
these
1:31
comics
1:31
together.
1:32
And
1:32
we
1:32
believe
1:32
we
1:33
are
1:33
all
1:33
bearers
1:34
of
1:34
the
1:34
image
1:34
of
1:34
God.
1:35
So
1:35
whether
1:36
you're
1:36
a
1:36
theology
1:36
nerd,
1:37
comic
1:38
book
1:38
geek,
1:38
or
1:38
if
1:39
you're
1:39
just
1:39
curious
1:40
about
1:40
our
1:40
journey,
1:41
we
1:41
thank
1:41
you
1:41
for
1:42
listening
1:42
and
1:42
hope
1:43
that
1:43
we
1:43
can
1:43
all
1:43
grow
1:44
together
1:44
as
1:44
we
1:44
engage
1:45
each
1:45
of
1:45
these
1:45
stories
1:46
earnestly
1:47
as
1:47
our
1:47
genuine
1:48
selves.
1:48
Shall
1:49
we
1:49
begin?
1:59
All
1:59
right,
1:59
thank
1:59
you
2:00
guys
2:00
so
2:00
much
2:00
for
2:01
listening
2:01
and
2:01
supporting
2:02
our
2:02
shows.
2:03
Wherever
2:03
you
2:03
are
2:03
listening.
2:04
As
2:04
mentioned
2:04
in
2:05
our
2:05
introduction,
2:05
this
2:06
is
2:06
both
2:06
Systematic
2:06
Ecology
2:07
and
2:07
the
2:08
Rethinking
2:08
Faith
2:08
podcast.
2:10
Not
2:10
on
2:10
the
2:10
main
2:10
feed,
2:11
just
2:11
for
2:11
our
2:11
supporters.
2:12
Even
2:12
if
2:12
you're
2:12
a
2:12
free
2:12
supporter,
2:13
we
2:13
appreciate
2:13
all
2:14
the
2:14
time
2:14
and
2:15
just
2:16
we
2:16
appreciate
2:17
your
2:17
effort
2:17
to
2:17
supporting
2:18
us
2:18
even
2:18
if
2:19
you
2:19
don't
2:19
have
2:19
the
2:20
financial
2:20
oomph
2:20
behind
2:21
it.
2:21
Listen,
2:22
I'm
2:22
poor.
2:22
I
2:22
get
2:22
it.
2:25
I
2:25
think
2:26
we
2:26
are
2:26
also
2:26
going
2:26
to
2:26
be
2:26
putting,
2:27
or
2:27
I'm
2:27
going
2:27
to
2:27
be
2:27
putting
2:27
this
2:27
on
2:28
the
2:28
main
2:28
feed
2:28
of
2:28
Systematic
2:29
Ecology
2:29
on
2:30
All
2:30
Souls
2:30
Day.
2:31
So
2:31
if
2:32
you
2:32
are
2:32
listening
2:32
there,
2:33
you
2:33
want
2:33
to
2:33
hear
2:33
more
2:33
stuff
2:34
like
2:34
this.
2:34
This
2:34
is
2:34
the
2:34
first
2:35
of
2:35
a
2:35
new
2:36
series
2:36
we're
2:36
doing
2:36
called
2:37
Rethinking
2:37
Comics
2:39
and
2:39
it
2:40
will
2:40
be
2:41
usually
2:41
only
2:42
available
2:43
on
2:43
the
2:44
Systematic
2:44
Ecology
2:45
website
2:45
for
2:45
members,
2:46
even
2:46
free
2:47
members,
2:47
as
2:47
well
2:47
as
2:47
the
2:48
Rethinking
2:48
Faith
2:49
podcast
2:50
Patreon
2:50
for
2:51
free.
2:51
So
2:51
follow
2:51
one
2:52
of
2:52
those
2:52
things.
2:52
Or
2:53
both.
2:53
Preferably
2:54
both.
2:54
Cool
2:54
people
2:55
do
2:55
both.
2:57
If
2:57
you
2:57
want
2:57
to
2:57
hear
2:57
more
2:58
of
2:58
these,
2:58
this
2:58
is
2:59
where
2:59
we're
2:59
going
2:59
to
2:59
be
2:59
engaging
3:00
some
3:00
of
3:00
this
3:00
comics
3:01
and
3:01
novels
3:01
that
3:01
have
3:01
meant
3:02
a
3:02
lot
3:02
to
3:02
me,
3:02
that
3:02
I'm
3:03
like,
3:03
man,
3:03
I
3:03
want
3:03
a
3:03
smarter
3:04
person
3:04
than
3:04
me
3:04
to
3:04
talk
3:04
to
3:05
about
3:05
these
3:05
things.
3:06
So
3:06
I
3:07
tricked
3:07
Jay
3:08
Patty
3:08
into
3:08
talking
3:08
to
3:09
me
3:09
about
3:09
it.
3:11
Oh,
3:12
man.
3:12
So
3:13
first,
3:14
if
3:15
people
3:15
have
3:16
not
3:16
heard
3:16
Rethinking
3:17
Faith
3:17
and
3:17
they're
3:18
on
3:18
here
3:18
because
3:18
it's
3:18
like
3:18
systemic
3:19
ecology
3:19
and
3:19
they're
3:19
like
3:19
comic
3:20
books,
3:20
do
3:21
you
3:21
want
3:21
to
3:21
tell
3:21
them
3:21
something
3:21
about
3:22
yourself
3:22
and
3:22
what
3:23
the
3:23
Rethinking
3:24
Faith
3:24
podcast
3:24
is?
3:25
Yeah,
3:25
sure.
3:25
So,
3:27
geez,
3:27
where
3:27
to
3:28
begin?
3:29
So
3:29
I
3:29
used
3:29
to
3:29
be
3:30
a
3:31
pastor.
3:32
I'm
3:32
ordained.
3:32
I'm
3:33
an
3:33
ordained
3:33
minister
3:34
of
3:34
the
3:34
gospel,
3:36
and
3:36
I
3:36
served
3:37
in
3:37
vocational
3:37
ministry
3:38
for
3:38
about
3:38
six
3:39
years.
3:40
And
3:40
then
3:40
for
3:40
a
3:41
series
3:41
of
3:41
complicated
3:42
reasons,
3:43
specifically
3:44
involving
3:46
basically
3:47
negative
3:47
experiences
3:48
is
3:48
saying
3:48
it
3:49
lightly,
3:50
but
3:50
some
3:50
negative
3:51
experiences
3:51
I
3:51
had
3:52
during
3:52
my
3:52
time
3:52
as
3:52
a
3:52
pastor
3:53
and
3:53
then
3:53
going
3:54
through
3:54
the
3:54
experience
3:54
of
3:55
what
3:55
people
3:55
today
3:55
are
3:56
calling
3:56
deconstruction,
3:57
I
3:58
stepped
3:58
away
3:58
from
3:58
doing
3:58
that,
3:59
became
3:59
a
3:59
professional
4:00
brewer,
4:01
made
4:01
beer
4:01
for
4:01
three
4:01
years,
4:02
and
4:02
now
4:03
I
4:03
find
4:03
myself,
4:04
you
4:04
know,
4:04
with
4:04
a
4:04
boring
4:05
adult
4:05
government
4:06
job.
4:07
Yeah,
4:08
I've
4:08
been
4:08
podcasting.
4:09
Rethinking
4:10
Faith
4:10
started
4:11
as
4:11
a
4:12
podcast
4:12
called
4:13
Theology
4:14
doesn't
4:14
suck
4:15
back
4:15
in
4:15
2018.
4:17
And
4:18
so
4:18
I've
4:18
been,
4:18
yeah,
4:19
going
4:19
strong
4:19
since
4:20
2018,
4:21
rethinking
4:21
faith.
4:22
I
4:23
do
4:23
a
4:23
lot
4:23
of
4:24
open
4:24
and
4:24
relational
4:25
theology
4:25
on
4:25
there,
4:25
a
4:26
lot
4:26
of
4:26
process
4:26
thought,
4:27
a
4:27
lot
4:28
of
4:28
radical
4:28
theology.
4:30
It's
4:30
definitely
4:31
more
4:32
philosophically
4:33
and
4:33
theologically
4:36
complex.
4:37
So
4:38
I
4:38
like
4:38
interviewing
4:39
People
4:39
with
4:39
PhDs
4:40
who
4:40
wrote
4:41
Cool
4:41
books,
4:42
and
4:42
we
4:43
have
4:43
a
4:43
lot
4:43
of
4:43
fun.
4:43
So
4:44
that's
4:44
kind
4:44
of
4:44
what
4:44
goes
4:45
on
4:45
over
4:45
there.
4:45
I
4:46
also
4:46
do
4:46
a
4:46
lot
4:46
of,
4:46
like,
4:47
interfaith
4:47
dialogue.
4:49
You
4:49
know,
4:49
I
4:50
hang
4:50
out
4:50
with
4:50
atheists
4:51
from
4:51
time
4:51
to
4:51
time.
4:53
So,
4:53
yeah,
4:53
it's
4:53
a.
4:54
It's
4:54
a
4:54
fun
4:54
space
4:54
where
4:55
really,
4:55
no
4:56
question,
4:56
honestly,
4:57
is
4:57
off
4:57
limit.
4:59
And
4:59
it's
5:00
a
5:00
cool
5:01
space
5:02
to.
5:02
I
5:02
mean,
5:02
it's
5:03
in
5:03
the,
5:03
you
5:03
know,
5:04
in
5:04
the
5:04
name
5:04
of
5:04
the
5:04
show,
5:05
rethink
5:05
one's
5:06
faith
5:07
in
5:08
a
5:08
space
5:08
that's,
5:09
like,
5:09
I
5:09
don't
5:09
know,
5:10
safe
5:10
to
5:10
do
5:10
so
5:11
with
5:11
other
5:11
people
5:11
that
5:12
are
5:12
also
5:12
asking
5:12
big
5:13
questions.
5:13
And
5:13
like
5:14
I
5:14
said,
5:14
nothing
5:14
really
5:15
is
5:15
off
5:15
limits,
5:16
so.
5:17
Yeah,
5:17
yeah,
5:17
yeah,
5:18
yeah.
5:18
It's
5:18
a
5:18
bit
5:18
about
5:18
what
5:19
I
5:19
do,
5:19
man.
5:20
I.
5:20
I've
5:20
always
5:20
loved
5:21
your
5:21
show.
5:22
Before
5:23
I
5:23
met
5:23
you,
5:24
actually.
5:25
Yeah,
5:25
you.
5:26
You
5:26
were
5:26
one.
5:26
One
5:27
of
5:27
the
5:27
handful
5:27
of
5:27
people
5:27
that,
5:28
when
5:28
I
5:28
went
5:28
in
5:28
my
5:28
first
5:28
theology
5:29
beer
5:29
camp,
5:29
I
5:29
was
5:29
like,
5:30
oh,
5:30
my
5:30
God,
5:30
that's
5:31
this
5:31
person.
5:31
And
5:32
they're
5:32
like,
5:32
dude,
5:32
I'm
5:33
just
5:33
a
5:33
podcaster.
5:33
Chill.
5:34
Yeah,
5:35
that's
5:36
fine.
5:36
Yeah.
5:39
So
5:39
systematic
5:39
ecology,
5:40
for
5:40
those
5:40
who
5:40
don't
5:40
know
5:40
what
5:41
that
5:41
is,
5:41
if
5:41
you're
5:41
if
5:41
you're
5:41
listening
5:42
on
5:42
Rethinking
5:42
Faith.
5:44
So
5:44
I'm
5:44
Joshua
5:45
Noel.
5:45
I
5:45
grew
5:45
up
5:46
Pentecostal,
5:46
became
5:47
Lutheran,
5:47
did
5:47
a
5:47
whole
5:48
thing.
5:49
I
5:49
got
5:49
in
5:49
trouble
5:49
with
5:49
my
5:50
church
5:50
for
5:51
not
5:51
even,
5:51
like,
5:51
liberal
5:52
thinking.
5:52
It
5:52
was
5:52
just
5:53
kind
5:53
of
5:53
like
5:53
reading
5:53
the
5:53
Bible.
5:54
Okay.
5:54
Anyway,
5:54
that's
5:55
a
5:55
whole
5:55
other
5:55
thing.
5:55
I
5:55
got
5:55
in
5:55
trouble
5:56
with
5:56
church
5:57
and
5:58
struggled
5:59
a
5:59
little
5:59
bit
5:59
with
5:59
where
6:00
I
6:00
belonged,
6:01
but
6:01
still
6:01
felt
6:01
like
6:01
I
6:02
needed
6:02
to
6:02
be
6:02
doing
6:02
ministry.
6:03
So
6:03
I
6:03
started
6:03
the
6:04
whole
6:04
church
6:04
podcast,
6:05
which
6:05
was
6:05
gonna
6:05
be
6:05
like,
6:06
church
6:06
unity.
6:06
And
6:06
I
6:06
was
6:07
like,
6:07
oh,
6:07
yeah,
6:07
that'll
6:07
be
6:07
a
6:07
nice,
6:08
easy
6:08
topic
6:08
because
6:08
everybody
6:09
wants
6:09
to
6:09
get
6:09
along,
6:10
and
6:10
it's
6:10
not
6:10
a
6:11
nice,
6:11
easy
6:11
topic
6:11
for
6:11
those
6:12
wondering.
6:12
I
6:13
was
6:13
severely
6:14
mistaken.
6:16
But.
6:16
So
6:16
we've
6:16
been
6:17
doing
6:17
that
6:17
for,
6:17
I
6:17
think,
6:18
like,
6:18
seven
6:18
years,
6:18
eight
6:18
years,
6:19
something
6:19
crazy.
6:19
We've
6:20
been
6:20
doing
6:20
the
6:20
whole
6:20
church
6:20
podcast
6:21
for
6:21
a
6:21
really
6:21
long
6:21
time,
6:21
talking
6:22
about
6:22
church
6:22
unity,
6:22
ecumenical
6:23
stuff,
6:23
talking
6:23
to
6:23
church
6:24
leaders
6:24
from
6:24
more
6:25
progressive
6:25
circles,
6:25
more
6:26
conservative
6:26
circles,
6:26
trying
6:27
to
6:27
figure
6:27
out,
6:27
like,
6:27
where
6:27
the
6:28
common
6:28
ground
6:28
is.
6:29
And
6:30
it
6:30
was
6:30
a
6:31
lot
6:31
harder
6:31
and
6:31
continues
6:31
to
6:32
be
6:32
a
6:32
lot
6:32
harder
6:32
than
6:32
I
6:32
ever
6:32
thought.
6:33
At
6:33
one
6:33
point,
6:34
I
6:34
had
6:35
Pastor
6:35
Will
6:35
Rose
6:35
on
6:36
because
6:36
I
6:36
was
6:36
like,
6:36
hey,
6:36
let's
6:37
have
6:37
a
6:37
Lutheran
6:37
on
6:37
to
6:38
talk
6:38
about
6:38
Lutheran
6:38
stuff.
6:39
And
6:39
then
6:39
we
6:39
started
6:40
talking
6:40
about
6:40
comic
6:40
books,
6:40
and
6:41
I
6:41
was
6:41
like,
6:41
well,
6:41
I
6:41
want
6:42
to
6:42
do
6:42
that
6:42
again.
6:42
So
6:43
I
6:43
tried
6:43
to
6:43
find
6:43
more
6:43
excuses.
6:44
And
6:44
honestly,
6:44
the
6:45
way
6:45
Systemic
6:45
Ecology
6:46
started
6:46
was
6:46
I
6:46
wanted
6:46
him
6:47
to
6:47
do
6:47
a
6:47
podcast
6:48
about
6:48
comic
6:48
books
6:49
so
6:49
that
6:49
I
6:49
could
6:49
listen
6:50
to
6:50
it,
6:50
but
6:50
I
6:50
wasn't
6:51
able
6:51
to
6:51
talk
6:51
him
6:51
into
6:52
doing
6:52
it,
6:52
so
6:53
I
6:53
started
6:53
one
6:53
with
6:54
him
6:54
in
6:54
it,
6:56
Right.
6:56
And
6:57
then
6:58
it
6:59
kind
6:59
of
6:59
branched
6:59
off
6:59
of
6:59
the
6:59
whole
7:00
church,
7:00
and
7:00
now
7:00
it's
7:00
kind
7:00
of
7:01
like
7:01
its
7:01
own
7:01
ecumenical
7:02
work
7:02
of,
7:02
like,
7:03
all
7:03
these
7:03
different
7:03
people
7:03
from
7:04
different
7:04
faith
7:04
backgrounds
7:05
who
7:06
enjoy
7:06
pop
7:06
culture,
7:07
whether
7:07
it
7:07
be,
7:07
like,
7:07
anime,
7:08
manga,
7:08
comic
7:09
books,
7:09
sports,
7:10
Taylor
7:11
Swift,
7:11
you
7:11
know,
7:11
whatever.
7:12
And
7:12
we're
7:12
trying
7:12
to
7:12
engage
7:13
honestly
7:13
with
7:13
the
7:14
stories,
7:14
the
7:14
narratives
7:15
that
7:15
are
7:15
being
7:15
told
7:15
in
7:16
pop
7:16
culture
7:17
from
7:17
a
7:18
shared
7:18
Christian
7:19
point
7:19
of
7:19
view,
7:19
but
7:19
very
7:19
much
7:20
different
7:20
faith
7:21
tradition.
7:21
So
7:21
trying
7:22
to
7:22
come
7:22
together
7:22
and
7:22
have
7:23
these
7:23
conversations
7:23
and
7:24
sometimes
7:24
really
7:24
challenging
7:25
conversations.
7:27
One
7:27
of
7:27
my
7:28
co
7:28
hosts,
7:28
Christian
7:28
Ashley,
7:29
is
7:29
in
7:29
really
7:29
conservative
7:30
Christian.
7:31
He's,
7:31
you
7:31
know,
7:31
he's
7:31
Southern
7:32
Baptist.
7:32
I
7:33
am.
7:34
I
7:34
still.
7:34
I
7:35
don't.
7:35
I
7:35
don't
7:35
like
7:35
calling
7:35
myself
7:35
a
7:36
progressive
7:36
Christian,
7:36
even
7:36
though
7:37
I
7:37
guess
7:37
I
7:37
probably
7:37
am
7:38
at
7:38
this
7:38
point.
7:38
I
7:38
think,
7:39
like,
7:39
I'm
7:39
more
7:39
in
7:39
the
7:39
middle,
7:40
but,
7:41
like,
7:41
as
7:42
culture
7:42
shifts
7:42
more
7:42
right,
7:43
the
7:43
middle
7:43
has
7:43
become
7:44
left.
7:44
I
7:44
don't
7:44
know
7:44
if
7:45
I
7:45
have
7:45
changed.
7:45
But
7:45
anyway,
7:47
you
7:47
know,
7:47
that
7:48
that
7:48
is
7:48
what
7:48
it
7:48
is.
7:49
Christian
7:49
is
7:49
definitely
7:50
more
7:50
conservative,
7:50
is
7:50
the
7:51
point.
7:51
And
7:51
we
7:52
both
7:52
enjoy
7:52
the
7:52
series
7:52
Supernatural
7:53
that
7:53
talks
7:53
a
7:53
lot
7:53
about
7:54
God
7:54
and
7:54
free
7:55
will
7:55
and
7:56
control,
7:57
and
7:57
we
7:58
engage
7:58
questions
7:59
and
7:59
we
7:59
don't
7:59
agree
7:59
about
7:59
it,
8:00
and
8:00
we
8:00
struggle
8:00
with
8:00
that.
8:01
So,
8:02
yeah,
8:02
that's
8:02
kind
8:02
of
8:02
what
8:02
systematic
8:03
geekology
8:03
does.
8:04
And
8:04
it's
8:04
fitting
8:04
that
8:05
I
8:05
was
8:05
a
8:05
K
8:05
owner.
8:06
We
8:06
have
8:06
a
8:06
lot
8:06
of
8:06
comic
8:06
book
8:07
stuff
8:07
over
8:07
there.
8:07
Some
8:08
of
8:08
the
8:08
stories
8:08
that
8:08
mean
8:08
the
8:09
most
8:09
to
8:09
me,
8:09
though,
8:09
aren't
8:10
like,
8:10
that
8:10
mainstream.
8:11
It's
8:11
not
8:11
always
8:12
like,
8:12
the
8:12
Green
8:12
Lantern
8:13
or
8:13
the
8:13
Superman.
8:14
Today's
8:14
Ice
8:14
Cream
8:15
Man,
8:15
a
8:15
lot
8:15
of
8:15
people
8:16
don't
8:16
know
8:16
who
8:16
that
8:16
is.
8:16
It's
8:17
like
8:17
horror
8:17
genre.
8:18
Not
8:18
from,
8:18
like,
8:18
the
8:19
two
8:19
big
8:19
Marvel
8:20
or
8:20
dc.
8:20
This
8:20
is
8:20
like
8:21
Image
8:21
Comics.
8:22
And
8:23
Ice
8:23
Cream
8:23
man
8:24
overall
8:24
has
8:25
meant
8:25
a
8:25
lot
8:25
to
8:25
me.
8:25
Continues
8:26
to
8:26
mean
8:26
a
8:26
lot
8:26
to
8:26
me.
8:27
And
8:27
some
8:27
of
8:27
these
8:28
stories
8:29
do
8:29
wrestle
8:29
with.
8:29
You
8:30
know,
8:30
I
8:30
had
8:30
Josh
8:30
Patterson
8:31
on,
8:31
I
8:31
think,
8:32
almost
8:32
exactly
8:33
a
8:33
year
8:33
ago.
8:33
We
8:33
had
8:34
you
8:34
on.
8:34
We
8:34
talked
8:34
about
8:34
a
8:34
Swamp
8:35
Thing
8:35
comic.
8:35
And
8:36
he
8:36
makes
8:36
a
8:36
line
8:37
that
8:37
you
8:37
used
8:37
in
8:37
your
8:38
intro,
8:38
basically
8:39
talking
8:39
about
8:39
process
8:39
theology.
8:40
And
8:41
it's
8:41
like,
8:41
these
8:41
are
8:42
the
8:42
comics
8:42
that
8:42
I
8:42
want
8:42
to
8:42
talk
8:43
about
8:43
in
8:43
this
8:43
series
8:43
is
8:43
more
8:43
of
8:44
the
8:44
stuff
8:44
that
8:44
I'm
8:44
like.
8:44
This
8:44
is
8:45
actually
8:45
intellectually
8:46
challenging,
8:46
mind
8:47
you.
8:47
I'm
8:47
the
8:47
kind
8:47
of
8:47
guy
8:47
who.
8:47
I
8:48
love
8:48
that
8:48
stuff.
8:49
I'm
8:49
also
8:49
cool
8:49
with,
8:50
like,
8:50
hey,
8:50
look,
8:50
that
8:50
Avengers
8:51
look.
8:51
Hulk
8:51
just
8:52
took
8:52
Loki
8:52
and
8:52
mashed
8:53
him
8:53
around.
8:53
That
8:53
was
8:53
cool.
8:54
Like.
8:55
Like,
8:55
I
8:55
do
8:55
both.
8:55
I
8:55
hold
8:56
both.
8:58
Um,
8:58
yeah,
8:59
which
8:59
is
8:59
fun
8:59
because
9:00
you're
9:00
gonna
9:00
see
9:00
systemic
9:00
ecology.
9:01
We're
9:01
gonna
9:01
do
9:01
a
9:01
lot
9:01
of
9:01
fun
9:01
stuff
9:02
for
9:02
Halloween.
9:02
And
9:02
that's
9:03
why
9:03
I
9:03
wanted
9:03
to
9:03
release
9:03
this
9:04
on
9:04
All
9:04
Souls
9:04
Day,
9:04
because,
9:05
like,
9:05
I'm
9:05
all
9:05
for
9:06
the
9:06
fun
9:06
Halloween.
9:07
Trick
9:07
or
9:07
treat.
9:07
Look
9:07
at
9:07
the
9:08
cool
9:08
monster
9:08
movies.
9:09
But
9:09
I
9:09
also
9:10
think
9:10
it
9:10
is
9:10
important
9:10
that
9:11
we
9:11
engage
9:11
with
9:11
this
9:11
stuff
9:12
about
9:12
death,
9:13
suicide.
9:14
What
9:14
does
9:14
it
9:14
mean
9:15
to
9:15
honor
9:15
the
9:15
dead?
9:16
Whether
9:16
it
9:16
be
9:16
saints,
9:17
you
9:17
know,
9:17
in
9:17
All
9:17
Saints
9:18
Day
9:18
or
9:18
just
9:18
All
9:19
Souls
9:19
Day,
9:19
those
9:19
who
9:19
gone
9:20
to
9:20
force,
9:20
like
9:20
my
9:20
grandparents,
9:20
that
9:21
I
9:21
like
9:21
to
9:21
honor
9:21
and
9:22
light
9:22
a
9:22
candle
9:22
for
9:23
on
9:23
this
9:24
Sunday.
9:24
I
9:24
will
9:24
probably
9:25
have
9:25
already
9:25
done
9:25
this
9:25
by
9:25
the
9:26
time
9:26
you're
9:26
listening
9:26
to
9:26
this,
9:26
guys.
9:28
And
9:28
that
9:28
kind
9:28
of
9:28
stuff
9:28
is
9:28
important
9:29
to
9:29
me.
9:29
One
9:30
of
9:30
the
9:30
biggest
9:30
episodes
9:31
we
9:31
did
9:31
on
9:31
systematic
9:31
ecology
9:32
talked
9:32
about
9:34
that
9:34
thing.
9:35
I'm
9:35
struggling.
9:36
Dia
9:36
de
9:36
los
9:37
muertos.
9:38
Is
9:38
that
9:38
right?
9:38
Dia
9:38
de
9:38
los
9:39
Muertos.
9:39
Thank
9:40
you.
9:40
Yes.
9:40
The
9:41
Day
9:41
of
9:41
the
9:41
Dead.
9:42
Forgive
9:43
our
9:43
lack
9:43
of
9:43
Spanish.
9:45
The
9:45
point
9:45
is,
9:46
one
9:46
of
9:46
the
9:46
bigger
9:46
episodes
9:46
we
9:47
did
9:47
was
9:47
me,
9:48
Will
9:48
Rose,
9:49
and
9:49
then
9:49
my
9:49
friend
9:50
TJ
9:50
Black
9:50
was
9:51
also
9:51
one
9:51
of
9:51
the
9:51
hosts
9:51
on
9:51
systematic
9:52
ecology.
9:53
We
9:53
talked
9:53
about
9:53
the.
9:54
Yeah,
9:54
we
9:55
talked
9:55
about
9:55
the
9:55
show,
9:55
the.
9:56
The
9:56
movie
9:56
Coco.
9:57
And
9:57
we
9:58
talked
9:58
about
9:58
that
9:58
in
9:58
light
9:59
of
9:59
all
9:59
of
10:00
these
10:00
holidays,
10:00
Halloween
10:01
and
10:01
more,
10:02
and
10:02
to
10:02
me,
10:03
it's
10:03
just
10:03
become
10:03
an
10:03
important
10:04
tradition.
10:05
Not
10:05
just
10:06
that.
10:06
I
10:06
don't
10:06
know,
10:07
for
10:07
whatever
10:07
reason,
10:07
this
10:07
is,
10:08
like,
10:08
probably
10:08
my
10:08
favorite
10:09
church
10:09
holiday
10:10
is
10:10
All
10:10
Saints
10:11
Day
10:11
and
10:11
All
10:11
Souls
10:11
Day.
10:11
I
10:12
love
10:12
this
10:12
weekend,
10:13
and
10:13
I
10:14
think
10:14
it's
10:14
important
10:15
on
10:15
our
10:15
show
10:15
that,
10:15
hey,
10:16
especially
10:16
since
10:17
a
10:17
lot
10:17
of
10:17
Christians
10:17
are
10:17
scared
10:17
of
10:17
Halloween,
10:18
that
10:18
we
10:18
engage
10:18
with
10:19
the
10:19
fun
10:19
pop
10:19
culture
10:19
of
10:20
it.
10:20
But
10:20
I
10:20
still
10:20
want
10:21
to
10:21
have
10:21
this,
10:21
like,
10:21
hey,
10:21
let's
10:22
talk
10:22
about
10:22
death.
10:23
And
10:23
I
10:24
feel
10:24
like
10:24
I
10:24
said
10:24
that,
10:24
too.
10:24
Happy.
10:25
Let's
10:25
talk
10:25
about
10:25
death,
10:25
guys.
10:27
Well,
10:27
I
10:27
mean,
10:27
Joshua,
10:28
I
10:28
think
10:28
you
10:28
already
10:29
know
10:29
this,
10:29
but,
10:29
you
10:30
know,
10:30
I
10:30
have
10:30
a
10:30
memento
10:31
mori
10:31
tattoo
10:33
on
10:33
my
10:33
arm,
10:33
which,
10:34
for
10:34
listeners
10:34
who
10:34
don't
10:35
know,
10:35
that's
10:35
Latin
10:35
for
10:36
remember
10:36
you
10:36
will
10:37
die
10:38
or
10:38
remember
10:39
your
10:39
death.
10:41
So
10:41
I
10:41
have,
10:41
like,
10:42
a
10:42
skull
10:43
with
10:43
roses,
10:45
and
10:46
there's
10:46
lyrics
10:47
from
10:47
a
10:48
shoot.
10:48
What's
10:49
the
10:49
band
10:49
Fit
10:50
for
10:50
a
10:50
King,
10:51
which
10:51
is,
10:52
like
10:52
a
10:52
heavy
10:53
band,
10:53
and
10:54
it
10:54
says,
10:54
death
10:54
will
10:55
know
10:55
my
10:55
name.
10:56
So
10:57
I'm
10:57
here
10:57
to
10:57
talk
10:58
about
10:58
death.
10:58
I
10:58
mean,
10:58
come
10:59
on,
10:59
Josh.
10:59
I
10:59
wear
11:00
black
11:00
every
11:00
day.
11:01
You
11:01
know,
11:01
black
11:02
T
11:02
shirt,
11:02
black
11:02
skinny
11:03
jeans.
11:03
I
11:03
paint
11:03
my
11:03
nails
11:04
black.
11:04
I
11:04
listen
11:04
to
11:04
emo
11:05
music.
11:06
I
11:07
fit
11:07
the
11:07
bill.
11:07
Yeah,
11:08
I
11:08
think
11:08
it's
11:09
funny
11:09
because
11:09
it's
11:09
like,
11:10
I
11:10
don't
11:11
know,
11:11
I
11:11
find
11:11
myself
11:12
really
11:12
peculiar
11:13
because
11:13
I
11:13
think
11:13
that
11:14
most
11:14
people
11:14
see
11:15
the
11:15
side
11:15
of
11:15
me
11:15
that's
11:16
always
11:16
like,
11:16
Captain
11:16
America
11:17
and
11:17
kingdom
11:17
hearts
11:18
and
11:18
fun,
11:18
pretty
11:18
colors,
11:19
which
11:19
people
11:20
just
11:20
misunderstand
11:20
Kingdom
11:21
hearts
11:21
when
11:21
they
11:21
do
11:21
that.
11:21
But,
11:22
you
11:22
know,
11:22
Disney,
11:22
you
11:23
know,
11:23
I'm
11:23
associated
11:23
with
11:23
Disney
11:24
a
11:24
lot.
11:24
I
11:24
love
11:24
Disney,
11:25
so
11:25
I
11:25
think
11:25
a
11:25
lot
11:25
of
11:25
people
11:26
miss
11:26
that.
11:26
Like,
11:27
I
11:27
also
11:27
love
11:28
sad
11:28
songs.
11:29
Sad.
11:29
Like,
11:29
I
11:29
love.
11:30
I
11:30
like
11:30
talking
11:30
about
11:30
death.
11:31
It's
11:31
kind
11:31
of
11:31
weird.
11:32
My
11:32
favorite
11:32
Christian
11:33
song,
11:33
actually
11:33
is
11:33
a
11:33
king's
11:34
kaleidoscope.
11:36
It's
11:36
called
11:36
a
11:36
Prayer.
11:37
But
11:37
it's
11:37
a
11:38
song
11:38
he
11:38
wrote
11:38
after
11:39
his
11:39
son
11:40
died.
11:40
And
11:41
I
11:41
think
11:41
his
11:41
son
11:41
died
11:42
by
11:42
suicide,
11:42
I'm
11:42
pretty
11:42
sure.
11:43
And
11:44
in
11:44
the
11:44
lyrics,
11:44
he's.
11:45
He's
11:45
talking
11:46
to
11:46
God,
11:46
asking,
11:46
where
11:46
are
11:47
you?
11:47
He
11:47
says,
11:47
where
11:47
are
11:47
you
11:47
when
11:48
the
11:48
fear
11:48
is
11:48
fucking
11:49
violent?
11:49
And
11:49
to
11:50
me,
11:50
that
11:50
line,
11:50
I'm
11:51
like,
11:51
that
11:52
might
11:52
be
11:52
one
11:52
of
11:52
the
11:52
lines
11:52
I
11:52
would
11:53
tattoo
11:53
on
11:53
myself.
11:53
Like,
11:53
where
11:53
are
11:54
you
11:54
in
11:54
the
11:54
fear
11:54
is
11:54
fucking
11:54
violent.
11:55
And
11:55
I
11:55
love
11:55
it.
11:56
Like,
11:56
in
11:56
Christian,
11:56
does
11:57
to
11:57
Jesus
11:57
be
11:57
like,
11:57
I'm
11:58
right
11:58
there
11:58
with
11:58
my
11:59
son
11:59
died.
11:59
And
12:00
I
12:00
was
12:00
like,
12:00
oh,
12:00
man.
12:01
You
12:01
know,
12:01
I'm
12:02
not
12:02
that
12:02
kind
12:02
of
12:02
literalist
12:03
Christian
12:03
all
12:03
the
12:03
time.
12:04
But
12:04
those
12:04
lyrics,
12:05
I
12:05
don't
12:06
know,
12:06
they.
12:06
Get
12:06
to
12:06
me
12:07
yeah,
12:07
no,
12:07
it's.
12:08
It's
12:08
good,
12:08
man.
12:08
I
12:08
think.
12:09
I
12:09
don't
12:09
know.
12:09
I
12:09
think
12:09
it's
12:10
important
12:10
our.
12:10
Our
12:11
culture
12:12
does
12:12
such
12:12
a
12:12
bad
12:13
job
12:13
talking
12:14
about
12:14
death.
12:15
Um,
12:15
and,
12:15
I
12:16
mean,
12:16
just
12:16
even
12:16
think
12:17
about
12:17
how
12:17
we
12:17
behave
12:18
when
12:18
someone
12:18
gets
12:19
old.
12:19
What
12:19
do
12:20
we
12:20
do?
12:20
We
12:20
put
12:20
them
12:20
in
12:20
a
12:21
fucking
12:21
home
12:22
so
12:23
we
12:23
don't
12:23
have
12:23
to
12:23
see
12:23
them.
12:23
Like,
12:24
same
12:24
with
12:24
people
12:25
who
12:25
are.
12:25
Or
12:25
sick
12:26
or
12:26
have
12:26
disabilities,
12:27
like
12:27
our
12:28
culture
12:28
does.
12:28
We
12:29
don't
12:29
want
12:29
to
12:29
see
12:30
those
12:30
things.
12:31
And,
12:31
you
12:31
know,
12:31
the
12:31
TV
12:32
is
12:32
constantly
12:32
selling.
12:33
You,
12:33
like,
12:34
buy
12:34
this
12:34
product
12:34
to
12:35
look
12:35
younger
12:36
or,
12:36
you
12:36
know,
12:36
this
12:36
will
12:37
make
12:37
you
12:37
live
12:37
longer,
12:38
or
12:38
you
12:38
have,
12:38
like,
12:39
these
12:40
technocrats
12:40
out
12:41
there
12:41
that
12:41
are
12:41
spending
12:42
billions
12:42
of
12:42
dollars
12:43
trying
12:43
to
12:43
figure
12:43
out
12:44
how
12:44
to
12:44
make
12:44
themselves
12:44
live
12:45
forever.
12:46
So,
12:46
like,
12:47
this
12:47
rejection
12:48
of
12:49
death,
12:50
I
12:50
think
12:50
is
12:50
a.
12:51
Is
12:51
a
12:52
major
12:52
issue,
12:52
and
12:53
I
12:53
think
12:53
it's
12:53
actually
12:54
healthier
12:55
when
12:55
we
12:55
can
12:56
acknowledge
12:57
the
12:57
fact
12:58
that
12:58
we
12:58
will
12:58
die
12:59
and
13:00
then
13:00
live
13:00
our
13:00
life
13:01
accordingly
13:02
out
13:02
of
13:02
that
13:02
place,
13:04
you
13:04
know?
13:04
And
13:05
you
13:05
mentioned
13:05
songs
13:06
that
13:06
you
13:06
like
13:07
about
13:07
death.
13:08
There's
13:08
one,
13:09
if
13:09
I
13:09
can
13:09
mention
13:10
it,
13:10
there's
13:10
a
13:10
song
13:10
called
13:11
Cigarettes
13:11
and
13:11
Saints
13:12
by
13:12
one
13:12
of
13:12
my
13:12
favorite
13:13
bands
13:13
called
13:13
the
13:13
Wonder
13:14
Years.
13:15
And
13:15
the
13:15
song,
13:16
I
13:16
read
13:17
it
13:17
in
13:17
two
13:17
different
13:17
ways.
13:18
It
13:18
was
13:19
intended
13:19
to
13:19
be
13:19
written
13:20
in
13:20
the
13:20
sense
13:20
that,
13:21
like,
13:21
his
13:21
buddy
13:22
passed
13:22
away
13:23
from
13:23
a
13:23
drug
13:24
overdose,
13:25
but
13:25
you
13:25
can
13:25
also
13:26
read
13:26
it
13:26
as
13:27
if
13:27
it's
13:27
a
13:27
critique
13:28
of
13:29
the
13:30
church.
13:32
But,
13:32
yeah,
13:33
he
13:33
has,
13:33
like,
13:33
these.
13:33
These
13:34
crazy
13:34
lines.
13:35
And
13:35
actually,
13:35
I'm
13:35
trying
13:35
to,
13:36
like,
13:36
figure
13:36
out.
13:36
I
13:36
want
13:37
to
13:37
write
13:37
about
13:37
this
13:37
on
13:37
my
13:38
substack,
13:39
because
13:40
he
13:40
goes
13:40
through
13:41
and
13:41
he
13:41
talks
13:41
about,
13:41
like,
13:42
twice
13:42
a
13:42
week,
13:42
I
13:43
go
13:43
past
13:43
the
13:43
church
13:44
that
13:44
held
13:44
your
13:44
funeral,
13:46
and
13:46
he
13:46
talks
13:46
about,
13:46
like,
13:46
not
13:47
liking
13:47
the
13:47
pastor,
13:48
and,
13:48
like,
13:48
the
13:48
pastor
13:48
called
13:49
you
13:49
a
13:49
sinner,
13:49
but
13:49
he.
13:50
You
13:50
know,
13:50
he
13:50
doesn't
13:50
even
13:50
know.
13:51
He
13:51
didn't
13:51
even
13:51
know
13:51
your
13:52
name.
13:53
And
13:53
then
13:53
he
13:54
goes
13:54
on
13:54
to
13:54
talk
13:54
about,
13:54
like,
13:55
I
13:55
lit
13:55
you
13:55
a
13:56
candle
13:56
in
13:56
every
13:56
cathedral
13:57
across
13:57
Europe,
13:58
and
13:58
I.
13:59
I
13:59
hope
13:59
you
13:59
know,
13:59
you're
13:59
still
14:00
my
14:00
patron
14:00
saint.
14:01
And
14:01
then
14:01
he
14:02
gets
14:02
to
14:02
this
14:02
part.
14:04
Yeah,
14:04
he
14:04
gets
14:05
this
14:05
part.
14:05
And
14:05
this
14:05
is
14:05
why
14:06
I
14:06
want
14:06
to
14:06
write
14:06
about
14:06
it,
14:06
because
14:07
there's,
14:07
like,
14:07
a
14:07
radical
14:08
theology
14:09
aspect
14:09
here
14:10
where
14:10
he
14:11
says.
14:12
Where's
14:12
the
14:12
line?
14:12
Exactly.
14:14
Yeah.
14:14
So
14:14
he
14:14
has
14:15
this
14:15
bit
14:16
where
14:16
he
14:16
says,
14:16
I'm
14:17
sure
14:17
there
14:17
ain't
14:18
a
14:18
heaven,
14:19
but
14:19
that
14:19
don't
14:20
mean
14:20
I
14:20
don't
14:20
like
14:21
to
14:21
picture
14:21
you
14:21
there.
14:22
I'll
14:22
bet
14:23
you're
14:23
bumming
14:23
cigarettes
14:24
off
14:24
saints.
14:25
And
14:25
I'm
14:26
sure
14:26
you're
14:26
still
14:26
singing,
14:27
but
14:28
I'll
14:28
bet
14:28
that
14:28
you're
14:28
still
14:29
just
14:29
a
14:29
bit
14:29
out
14:30
of
14:30
key.
14:30
That
14:31
crooked
14:31
smile
14:31
pushing
14:32
words
14:32
across
14:33
your
14:33
teeth
14:33
and
14:34
then,
14:34
like,
14:34
the
14:34
song
14:34
continues
14:35
and
14:35
goes
14:35
on,
14:36
but,
14:36
like,
14:36
that
14:36
song
14:37
wrecks
14:37
me.
14:39
I
14:39
listen
14:39
to
14:39
it
14:40
like
14:40
multiple
14:40
times
14:40
a
14:41
day.
14:42
Yeah,
14:42
I
14:42
got
14:43
the
14:43
YouTube
14:43
pulled
14:43
up.
14:44
As
14:44
soon
14:44
as
14:44
we're
14:44
done,
14:44
I'm
14:44
going
14:44
to.
14:45
Yeah,
14:46
yeah.
14:46
And
14:46
the
14:46
music
14:47
video.
14:47
If
14:47
you
14:47
watch
14:47
the
14:47
music
14:48
video,
14:48
it's
14:48
beautiful.
14:48
And
14:49
it
14:49
ties
14:49
in
14:49
nicely
14:50
to
14:50
our
14:50
conversation,
14:50
actually,
14:51
because
14:51
even
14:51
though
14:52
the
14:52
song
14:52
is
14:52
about
14:53
someone
14:54
dying
14:54
of
14:54
a
14:54
drug
14:54
overdose,
14:55
the
14:55
music
14:56
video
14:56
wrestles
14:56
with
14:57
suicide.
14:57
Yeah,
14:58
yeah.
14:59
And
15:00
it's.
15:01
It's
15:01
really.
15:02
It's
15:02
beautiful.
15:03
And
15:03
like
15:03
the
15:03
way
15:03
the
15:04
lead
15:04
singer,
15:06
the
15:07
energy
15:07
and
15:08
emotion
15:09
that
15:09
he
15:09
puts
15:09
into
15:10
his
15:12
not
15:12
just
15:12
singing,
15:12
but
15:13
also
15:13
his
15:13
performance
15:13
of
15:14
his
15:14
music
15:14
is
15:14
like,
15:15
top
15:15
notch.
15:16
It's
15:16
a
15:16
quality
15:16
song.
15:17
Yeah.
15:18
Would
15:18
recommend.
15:19
All
15:19
right.
15:20
Yeah.
15:20
That's
15:20
the
15:21
Wonder
15:21
Years.
15:21
Now
15:21
you
15:22
guys
15:22
have
15:22
to
15:22
send
15:22
Joshua
15:23
and
15:23
I
15:23
a
15:23
check
15:24
for
15:24
plugging
15:24
your
15:25
stuff.
15:25
True.
15:27
This
15:27
show
15:28
is
15:28
sponsored
15:28
by
15:29
whoever
15:29
we
15:30
name.
15:30
You
15:30
have
15:30
to
15:31
pay
15:31
us.
15:32
Sorry,
15:32
Disney.
15:34
No,
15:35
but
15:35
the.
15:36
Yeah,
15:36
death
15:36
is
15:37
such
15:37
an
15:37
important
15:37
topic.
15:38
And
15:38
I
15:38
know
15:38
that
15:38
sounds
15:39
weird,
15:39
but
15:39
hey,
15:40
it's
15:40
All
15:40
Souls
15:40
Day.
15:41
We're
15:41
here
15:41
for
15:41
it.
15:43
I
15:43
wanted
15:43
to
15:44
mention
15:44
a
15:44
few
15:44
things
15:44
before
15:44
we
15:45
get
15:45
into
15:45
the
15:45
actual
15:45
comic.
15:46
And
15:46
today
15:46
we're
15:46
only
15:47
doing
15:47
one
15:47
issue.
15:47
A
15:47
lot
15:47
of
15:47
times
15:47
we'll
15:48
be
15:48
doing
15:48
like
15:48
graphic
15:48
novels
15:49
in
15:49
the
15:49
series
15:49
because
15:50
it's
15:50
hard
15:50
to
15:50
tell
15:50
a
15:51
whole
15:51
story.
15:51
But
15:51
Ice
15:51
Cream
15:52
man,
15:52
even
15:53
though
15:53
there
15:53
are
15:53
some
15:53
connective
15:54
tissues
15:54
across
15:54
the
15:55
issues
15:55
overall,
15:56
you
15:56
could
15:56
take
15:56
individual,
15:57
pretty
15:57
much
15:57
any
15:58
individual
15:58
issue
15:58
of
15:59
Ice
15:59
Cream
15:59
man.
15:59
And
16:00
it
16:00
tells
16:00
its
16:00
own
16:00
story,
16:00
which
16:01
I
16:01
love.
16:01
I
16:01
love
16:02
short
16:02
form
16:03
storytelling.
16:03
Not
16:03
just
16:04
in
16:04
comics,
16:04
just
16:04
in
16:04
general.
16:05
Like,
16:05
short
16:05
stories
16:05
are
16:05
still
16:06
sick.
16:07
But
16:07
yeah,
16:08
that's
16:08
a
16:08
different
16:08
rant
16:09
for
16:09
a
16:09
different
16:09
day.
16:10
I
16:10
do
16:10
want
16:10
to
16:10
mention
16:11
one
16:12
friend
16:12
I
16:12
met.
16:12
I
16:12
met
16:13
him
16:13
a
16:13
couple
16:13
months
16:13
after
16:14
his
16:14
dad
16:14
had
16:14
killed
16:15
himself.
16:15
And
16:16
so
16:17
this
16:17
is
16:17
something
16:18
the
16:18
comic
16:18
book
16:18
does
16:18
that
16:18
I
16:19
struggle
16:19
with.
16:19
Is
16:19
it
16:19
just,
16:20
hey,
16:20
suicide's
16:21
a
16:21
thing.
16:21
And
16:21
it's
16:22
like
16:22
non
16:22
apologetic
16:22
about
16:23
it.
16:23
But
16:23
I
16:23
always
16:23
feel
16:23
like
16:23
I
16:23
have
16:23
to
16:24
apologize,
16:24
like,
16:24
oh,
16:24
we're
16:24
talking
16:24
about
16:25
suicide.
16:25
I
16:25
am
16:25
so
16:25
sorry.
16:25
And
16:26
hey,
16:26
sorry
16:26
if
16:26
this
16:26
is
16:26
triggering.
16:27
Like,
16:27
I
16:27
feel
16:27
like
16:27
I'm
16:27
always
16:28
like
16:28
tiptoeing
16:28
on
16:29
glass
16:29
or
16:29
something.
16:31
But,
16:31
yeah,
16:31
so
16:32
I
16:32
had
16:32
a
16:32
friend,
16:32
dad
16:33
killed
16:33
himself
16:33
a
16:33
couple
16:33
times
16:33
a
16:34
couple
16:34
months
16:34
before
16:34
I
16:34
met
16:34
him.
16:35
I
16:35
didn't
16:35
know
16:35
this
16:35
till
16:35
like
16:36
years
16:36
later
16:36
because
16:36
he
16:36
just,
16:37
he
16:37
acted
16:38
fine,
16:38
cool,
16:39
like,
16:39
you
16:39
know,
16:39
whatever.
16:40
One
16:41
of
16:41
the
16:41
main
16:41
parts
16:41
of
16:41
the
16:42
story
16:42
that.
16:42
And
16:42
that's
16:42
why
16:43
I
16:43
don't
16:43
want
16:43
to
16:43
name
16:44
drop.
16:44
And
16:44
I'm
16:44
trying
16:44
to
16:44
be
16:44
careful
16:45
not
16:45
to
16:45
like,
16:45
give
16:46
someone
16:46
else's
16:46
personal
16:47
story
16:47
away,
16:47
but
16:48
you
16:48
know,
16:48
I
16:48
know
16:48
he's
16:48
talked
16:48
about
16:48
this
16:49
on
16:49
podcasts
16:49
and
16:49
stuff
16:49
before.
16:51
He's
16:51
far
16:51
more
16:51
conservative
16:52
than
16:52
me.
16:52
Again,
16:53
Pentecostal
16:53
circles
16:54
is
16:54
what
16:55
we
16:55
came
16:55
from.
16:56
So
16:57
me
16:57
and
16:57
him,
16:58
not
16:58
Josh
16:58
Batters.
16:59
I
16:59
don't
17:00
think
17:00
you
17:00
were
17:00
ever
17:00
in
17:00
a
17:00
Pentecostal
17:01
circles,
17:01
as
17:01
far
17:01
as
17:01
I
17:01
know.
17:02
No.
17:02
Okay.
17:04
I
17:04
did
17:04
get
17:04
mixed
17:05
in
17:05
with
17:05
some
17:06
kind
17:06
of,
17:07
like,
17:07
I
17:07
guess
17:08
essentially
17:08
Pentecostals
17:09
at
17:10
one
17:10
point
17:10
in
17:11
high
17:11
school,
17:12
and
17:12
they
17:12
were,
17:13
like,
17:13
hardcore
17:13
into,
17:14
like,
17:14
all
17:14
this
17:14
demon
17:14
shit.
17:15
And
17:15
that
17:15
got
17:15
really
17:16
weird
17:16
real
17:16
quick.
17:17
That
17:18
is.
17:18
That
17:18
that's
17:19
a
17:19
story
17:19
for
17:19
another
17:20
time.
17:20
It's
17:21
crazy
17:21
that
17:21
that's
17:22
a
17:22
perfect
17:22
segue
17:22
to
17:23
the
17:23
rest
17:23
of
17:23
the
17:24
story.
17:26
Yeah.
17:27
At
17:27
different
17:27
camps,
17:28
people
17:28
who
17:28
are
17:29
possessed
17:29
by
17:29
demons.
17:30
Again,
17:30
I.
17:30
I
17:31
honestly,
17:31
I've
17:32
not
17:32
decided
17:32
how
17:32
much
17:32
weight
17:33
I
17:33
put
17:33
into
17:33
some
17:33
of
17:33
the
17:33
stuff,
17:34
because
17:34
I
17:34
do
17:34
think
17:34
there
17:34
are
17:34
spiritual
17:35
realities,
17:35
but
17:35
I
17:36
also
17:36
think
17:36
a
17:37
lot
17:37
of
17:37
your
17:37
charismatic
17:38
competencostal
17:38
circles
17:39
that
17:39
I
17:39
grew
17:39
up
17:39
in,
17:39
some
17:40
people
17:40
fabricate
17:41
stuff
17:41
for
17:41
attention.
17:42
I
17:42
think
17:43
I'm
17:43
just
17:43
gonna,
17:44
you
17:44
know,
17:44
I
17:44
don't
17:44
know
17:45
what's
17:45
real,
17:45
what's
17:45
not
17:45
real.
17:46
I'm
17:46
just
17:46
gonna
17:46
laying
17:46
that
17:46
out.
17:47
I
17:47
have
17:47
a
17:47
lot
17:47
of
17:47
skepticism
17:48
around
17:48
it,
17:48
but
17:48
I
17:49
still
17:49
think
17:49
there
17:49
are
17:49
spiritual
17:50
realities.
17:51
One
17:52
of
17:52
the
17:52
demons
17:52
mentioned
17:52
something
17:52
about
17:53
his
17:53
dad,
17:53
and
17:53
I
17:53
remember
17:54
that
17:54
being,
17:54
like,
17:54
a
17:54
big
17:54
part
17:54
of
17:55
the
17:55
story.
17:55
And
17:55
I
17:56
remember
17:56
somebody
17:56
else
17:57
praying
17:57
with
17:57
him
17:58
who
17:58
wasn't
17:58
there
17:59
and
18:00
spoke
18:00
to
18:00
him
18:00
is
18:00
like,
18:01
hey,
18:02
Jesus,
18:02
God,
18:03
the
18:03
spirit
18:03
wanted
18:03
you
18:03
to
18:04
know
18:04
that
18:04
your
18:04
father's
18:05
with
18:05
him.
18:05
And
18:06
again,
18:06
I
18:06
don't
18:06
know
18:06
how
18:06
much
18:07
weight
18:07
I
18:07
put
18:07
into
18:07
that
18:08
either,
18:08
but
18:08
how
18:09
much
18:09
comfort
18:09
that
18:09
gave
18:10
him
18:10
and
18:10
how
18:10
much
18:11
he
18:11
struggled
18:11
with
18:11
the
18:12
whole
18:12
idea
18:12
that,
18:12
you
18:12
know,
18:12
suicide
18:13
is
18:13
a
18:13
sin.
18:14
His
18:14
dad
18:14
committed
18:14
suicide.
18:15
His
18:15
dad
18:15
had
18:15
a
18:15
lot
18:15
of
18:15
mental
18:15
health
18:15
issues.
18:16
But
18:16
is
18:16
that
18:16
also
18:17
was
18:17
a
18:17
guy
18:17
who
18:18
went
18:18
around
18:18
with
18:18
Billy
18:18
Graham.
18:18
He
18:18
was
18:19
part
18:19
of,
18:19
like,
18:19
all
18:19
the
18:19
stuff
18:20
that
18:20
people
18:20
typically
18:20
think
18:21
of
18:21
as,
18:21
like,
18:21
the
18:21
super
18:21
Christian
18:22
stuff.
18:22
He
18:23
was
18:23
a
18:23
very
18:23
dedicated
18:23
Christian.
18:24
And
18:25
from
18:25
all
18:25
accounts
18:26
of
18:26
the
18:26
story
18:26
and
18:26
for
18:26
everything
18:27
that,
18:27
like,
18:27
they
18:27
can
18:28
dig
18:28
up,
18:28
it
18:28
seems
18:29
like
18:29
it
18:30
really
18:30
was
18:30
just
18:30
like
18:30
a
18:30
mental
18:31
health.
18:31
Like,
18:31
he
18:31
just.
18:32
It
18:32
was
18:32
a
18:32
bad
18:32
day.
18:33
Like,
18:33
it
18:33
didn't
18:33
even
18:34
seem
18:34
like
18:34
it
18:34
was
18:34
like
18:34
a.
18:35
Oh,
18:35
he
18:36
wasn't
18:36
really
18:37
a
18:37
Christian
18:37
or
18:37
like,
18:38
you
18:38
know,
18:38
he
18:38
wasn't
18:38
really
18:38
who
18:39
he
18:39
said
18:39
he
18:39
was.
18:39
It's
18:39
like,
18:39
no,
18:40
it
18:40
seemed
18:40
like
18:40
he
18:40
legitimately
18:41
was
18:41
exactly
18:41
who
18:41
he
18:41
said
18:42
he
18:42
was.
18:43
Believed
18:43
all
18:43
of
18:43
those
18:43
things
18:44
that,
18:44
you
18:44
know,
18:44
even
18:44
the
18:44
stuff
18:44
that
18:45
I
18:45
don't
18:45
believe.
18:45
But,
18:45
you
18:45
know,
18:46
conservative
18:46
Christians
18:47
who
18:47
are
18:47
like,
18:47
literal
18:48
Bibles,
18:48
like,
18:48
he
18:48
checked
18:49
all
18:49
the
18:49
stuff
18:49
like
18:49
I
18:49
think
18:49
he
18:50
genuinely
18:50
believed
18:50
it.
18:51
But
18:51
that
18:51
mental
18:52
health
18:52
thing
18:52
was,
18:52
like,
18:52
a
18:52
real
18:52
issue,
18:53
and
18:53
it
18:53
ended
18:53
in
18:54
suicide.
18:55
And,
18:55
you
18:56
know,
18:56
that
18:56
was
18:56
really
18:56
challenge
18:56
for
18:56
all
18:56
of
18:57
their
18:57
family.
18:57
And
18:57
to
18:57
him,
18:58
it
18:58
was
18:58
really
18:58
important
18:58
to
18:58
hear
18:59
that
18:59
prayer
18:59
and
18:59
someone
18:59
say,
18:59
hey,
19:00
no,
19:00
your
19:00
dad
19:01
is
19:02
with
19:02
the
19:02
father.
19:03
Again,
19:03
I
19:03
don't
19:03
know
19:03
how
19:04
much
19:04
weight
19:04
I
19:04
put
19:04
into
19:04
some
19:04
of
19:04
this
19:05
literal
19:05
stuff,
19:05
like,
19:05
if.
19:06
I
19:06
don't
19:06
know
19:06
if
19:06
I
19:06
believe
19:07
there's
19:07
heaven
19:07
or
19:07
not
19:07
most
19:07
of
19:08
the
19:08
time.
19:08
Right.
19:09
But
19:09
I
19:10
think
19:10
it's
19:10
an
19:10
important
19:10
story
19:11
and
19:11
important
19:11
to
19:11
think
19:12
on.
19:13
I
19:13
personally
19:14
don't
19:15
think
19:16
suicide
19:17
prevents
19:18
one
19:18
from
19:19
being
19:20
in
19:20
the
19:21
father's
19:21
embrace.
19:21
Like,
19:21
I
19:22
think
19:22
sometimes
19:22
this
19:22
stuff
19:23
happens,
19:23
and
19:24
it's
19:24
not
19:24
because
19:24
the
19:24
person
19:25
was
19:25
a
19:25
bad
19:25
person.
19:26
It's
19:26
not
19:26
because
19:26
they
19:26
were
19:26
sinning.
19:28
Sometimes
19:28
you
19:28
had
19:28
a
19:28
bad
19:29
day,
19:29
and,
19:29
like,
19:29
man,
19:30
that
19:30
sucks.
19:30
And
19:31
again,
19:31
I
19:31
don't
19:31
endorse
19:31
suicide.
19:32
Like,
19:32
I
19:32
hope
19:32
no
19:32
one
19:33
ever
19:33
chooses
19:33
that
19:34
route.
19:34
But
19:34
I
19:34
also
19:35
hope
19:35
that
19:35
anyone
19:35
who's
19:36
dealing
19:36
with
19:36
this
19:36
in
19:36
their
19:36
family
19:36
and
19:36
their
19:37
friends
19:38
don't
19:38
carry
19:38
this
19:38
weight
19:39
around,
19:39
like,
19:39
oh,
19:39
they
19:40
died
19:40
in
19:40
sin
19:40
and
19:41
now
19:41
they're
19:41
in
19:41
hell
19:41
or
19:41
something.
19:42
You
19:42
know,
19:42
Like,
19:42
I
19:42
just
19:42
hope
19:43
no
19:43
one's
19:43
carrying
19:43
that
19:43
weight
19:44
around.
19:44
So
19:44
that's
19:44
why
19:44
I
19:44
wanted
19:45
to
19:45
bring
19:45
that
19:45
story
19:45
up
19:45
before
19:46
we
19:46
talked
19:46
about
19:46
a
19:46
comic
19:47
book
19:47
about
19:47
suicide.
19:48
Yeah,
19:48
no,
19:48
I.
19:48
I
19:49
appreciate
19:49
it,
19:49
man.
19:49
And
19:49
I,
19:50
like,
19:50
I
19:50
agree
19:50
with
19:50
you.
19:50
Life.
19:51
Life
19:51
is
19:51
fucking
19:52
hard.
19:53
And
19:54
Amen.
19:55
You
19:55
know,
19:55
I've.
19:56
I've
19:57
read.
19:57
I've
19:57
talked
19:57
about
19:57
this
19:57
on
19:58
the
19:58
podcast
19:58
before,
19:58
and
19:58
you.
19:59
Actually,
19:59
I
19:59
might
19:59
have
20:00
even
20:00
said
20:00
this
20:00
on
20:00
an
20:00
episode
20:01
of
20:01
Systematic
20:01
Ecology,
20:02
but
20:03
I
20:03
read
20:03
a
20:03
book
20:03
by
20:03
a
20:04
philosopher
20:04
I
20:04
love,
20:05
a
20:05
British
20:05
guy
20:05
named
20:06
Simon
20:06
Critchley,
20:07
and
20:07
he
20:08
wrote
20:08
a
20:08
book
20:08
called
20:09
Notes
20:09
on
20:09
Suicide.
20:10
And
20:10
it's.
20:11
I
20:11
mean,
20:11
it's
20:11
a
20:11
philosophy
20:11
of
20:12
suicide,
20:12
essentially.
20:13
And
20:13
he
20:13
goes
20:14
through,
20:14
like,
20:14
nihilism
20:15
and,
20:16
you
20:16
know,
20:16
he,
20:16
like,
20:17
studies
20:17
suicide
20:18
notes
20:18
and
20:19
all
20:19
this
20:19
kind
20:19
of
20:19
stuff.
20:20
And
20:20
ultimately,
20:20
like,
20:21
to
20:21
sum
20:21
up
20:21
his.
20:22
His
20:22
bit
20:22
on
20:22
it
20:23
is
20:23
like,
20:24
he
20:24
thinks
20:25
that
20:25
ultimately
20:26
suicide
20:27
is
20:27
impossible
20:28
because
20:29
he
20:29
thinks
20:29
it's
20:29
murder
20:30
of
20:30
the
20:31
hated
20:31
other,
20:32
except
20:32
the
20:32
hated
20:33
other
20:33
just
20:33
happens
20:34
to
20:34
be
20:34
oneself.
20:35
Or
20:35
like
20:35
a
20:35
more
20:36
philosophical
20:36
way
20:36
of
20:37
saying
20:37
it
20:37
is,
20:37
is
20:38
Critchley
20:39
says
20:39
that
20:39
when
20:40
a
20:40
person
20:41
dies
20:41
by
20:41
suicide
20:42
or
20:42
commits
20:42
suicide,
20:43
what
20:44
has
20:44
happened
20:45
is
20:45
the
20:45
subject.
20:46
So
20:46
Josh
20:47
Patterson
20:48
has
20:48
reduced
20:49
himself
20:49
to
20:49
an
20:50
object
20:50
and
20:51
then
20:51
sought
20:52
to
20:52
eliminate
20:52
the
20:53
object
20:53
because,
20:54
you
20:54
know,
20:54
he
20:54
put
20:55
all
20:55
of
20:55
the,
20:56
you
20:56
know,
20:56
weight
20:57
and
20:57
problems
20:57
on
20:57
that
20:57
object,
20:58
and
20:58
if
20:58
we
20:58
can
20:58
get
20:58
rid
20:59
of
20:59
the
20:59
object
20:59
and
21:00
problem
21:00
solved.
21:01
But
21:01
what's
21:01
interesting
21:02
is
21:02
Critchley,
21:03
in
21:03
this
21:03
book,
21:03
he
21:04
also
21:04
does
21:04
not
21:04
endorse
21:05
Suicide,
21:05
he
21:06
says
21:06
suicide
21:06
is
21:07
not.
21:07
Is
21:07
too
21:08
optimistic.
21:09
And
21:10
if
21:10
you
21:10
are
21:10
truly
21:11
a
21:11
nihilist,
21:12
you
21:12
would
21:12
not
21:13
kill
21:13
yourself
21:14
because
21:14
that's
21:14
putting
21:15
too
21:15
much
21:15
optimism
21:16
in
21:17
the
21:17
impact
21:18
that
21:18
your
21:18
death
21:18
would
21:19
have.
21:19
You
21:20
really
21:20
think
21:20
the
21:20
world
21:21
would
21:21
be
21:21
a
21:21
better
21:21
place
21:21
if
21:22
you
21:22
kill
21:22
yourself?
21:23
That's
21:23
not
21:23
very
21:23
nihilistic.
21:24
It's
21:24
too
21:24
optimistic.
21:25
So
21:26
it's
21:26
an
21:26
interesting
21:27
book.
21:27
I
21:27
highly
21:28
recommend
21:28
it.
21:28
But
21:28
that,
21:29
you
21:29
know,
21:29
when
21:29
I
21:29
first
21:29
read
21:30
the
21:30
idea
21:30
that,
21:31
like,
21:31
suicide
21:31
is
21:31
the
21:32
murder
21:32
of
21:32
the
21:32
hated
21:32
other
21:32
and
21:33
it
21:33
just
21:33
happens
21:33
to
21:33
be
21:34
yourself,
21:34
that
21:35
wrecked
21:35
me.
21:36
It's
21:36
like
21:36
some
21:36
of
21:36
the
21:37
saddest
21:37
shit
21:37
I've
21:37
ever
21:37
read.
21:38
Yeah,
21:38
well,
21:38
that's.
21:39
That's
21:39
heavy.
21:39
I.
21:40
I
21:40
do
21:41
remember
21:41
where
21:41
you
21:41
said
21:42
that
21:42
on
21:42
one
21:42
of
21:42
my
21:42
shows.
21:43
So
21:43
I'm
21:43
going
21:43
to
21:43
plug
21:43
it
21:44
like
21:44
a
21:44
good
21:44
podcaster
21:45
to
21:45
make
21:45
TJ
21:45
happy.
21:47
It
21:47
was
21:47
actually
21:48
on
21:48
the
21:48
whole
21:48
church
21:49
podcast
21:49
recently,
21:50
we
21:50
talked
21:50
about
21:50
cussing
21:51
and
21:52
what
21:52
kind
21:52
of
21:53
language
21:53
we
21:53
should
21:53
be
21:54
using.
21:54
And
21:55
we
21:55
actually
21:55
got
21:56
into
21:56
a
21:56
little
21:56
bit
21:56
of
21:56
how,
21:56
like,
21:57
guys
21:57
just
21:57
need
21:57
to
21:57
do
21:58
a
21:58
better
21:58
job
21:58
of
21:58
telling
21:58
that.
21:59
Each
21:59
other
21:59
that
21:59
they
21:59
love
21:59
each
22:00
other.
22:00
And,
22:01
yeah,
22:01
I've
22:02
actually
22:02
been
22:02
working
22:02
on
22:02
that
22:03
and
22:03
trying
22:04
to
22:04
tell
22:04
you
22:04
and
22:04
Ryan
22:05
and
22:05
everybody
22:05
how
22:05
much
22:05
I
22:05
care
22:06
about
22:06
you
22:06
guys
22:06
more.
22:07
More
22:07
since
22:08
that
22:08
episode.
22:09
So
22:09
I'll
22:09
try
22:09
to
22:09
plug
22:10
that
22:10
episode
22:10
down
22:10
below
22:10
too,
22:10
because
22:10
I
22:11
thought
22:11
that
22:11
was
22:11
a
22:11
really
22:11
good
22:11
conversation.
22:12
I
22:13
thought
22:13
it,
22:13
like,
22:14
this
22:14
is
22:14
going
22:14
to
22:15
sound
22:15
dismissive.
22:15
I
22:15
don't
22:15
mean
22:16
it
22:16
to
22:16
be
22:16
dismissive,
22:16
but
22:17
when
22:17
I
22:17
saw
22:17
that
22:17
you
22:18
released,
22:18
like,
22:18
an
22:18
edited
22:19
version
22:19
of
22:19
that
22:19
podcast
22:20
so
22:20
people
22:20
could
22:20
listen
22:20
to
22:21
without
22:21
cursing,
22:22
I
22:22
did
22:22
chuckle
22:23
to
22:23
myself,
22:23
like,
22:23
I
22:23
get
22:24
it.
22:24
Like,
22:24
well
22:24
done.
22:25
But
22:25
I
22:25
did
22:25
think
22:25
that
22:25
was
22:26
funny.
22:27
I
22:27
actually
22:28
only
22:28
did
22:28
it
22:29
because
22:29
I
22:29
thought
22:29
it
22:29
was
22:30
funny.
22:30
Like,
22:30
so
22:30
many
22:31
people
22:31
were
22:31
asking
22:31
me
22:32
for
22:32
it.
22:32
And
22:32
then
22:32
I
22:32
was
22:33
like,
22:33
how
22:33
do
22:33
I
22:33
do
22:33
this?
22:33
And
22:34
then
22:34
I
22:34
was
22:34
like,
22:34
what
22:34
if
22:34
I
22:35
put
22:35
a
22:35
church
22:35
organ
22:36
sound
22:36
over
22:37
every
22:37
curse
22:37
word?
22:38
And
22:38
I
22:38
was
22:38
like.
22:38
I
22:39
listened
22:39
to
22:39
myself
22:39
do
22:40
that
22:40
for,
22:40
like,
22:40
one
22:40
minute,
22:40
and
22:40
I
22:41
was
22:41
like,
22:41
no,
22:41
this
22:41
is
22:41
fucking
22:42
funny.
22:42
I'm
22:42
doing
22:43
this.
22:45
That's
22:45
why
22:45
that
22:45
exists.
22:47
Good
22:47
stuff.
22:47
Yeah.
22:47
If
22:47
I
22:48
didn't
22:48
think
22:48
it
22:48
was
22:48
funny,
22:48
they
22:48
weren't
22:49
getting
22:49
it,
22:50
but.
22:51
Oh,
22:52
man.
22:53
Okay.
22:53
So,
22:53
yeah,
22:54
let's
22:54
actually
22:54
talk
22:54
about
22:54
the
22:54
comic
22:55
book
22:55
a
22:55
little
22:55
bit,
22:55
and
22:55
I'm
22:56
gonna
22:56
give
22:56
a
22:56
little
22:56
bit
22:56
of
22:56
context
22:57
because
22:57
I.
22:57
I
22:57
thought
22:58
that
22:58
you
22:58
didn't
22:59
need
22:59
any
22:59
for
22:59
this,
22:59
and
22:59
I
22:59
think
23:00
for
23:00
the
23:00
most
23:00
part,
23:00
you
23:00
probably
23:00
didn't.
23:01
But
23:01
there
23:01
was
23:01
some
23:01
stuff
23:02
that
23:02
I
23:02
was
23:02
like,
23:02
oh,
23:02
wait,
23:03
some
23:03
context
23:03
might
23:04
have
23:04
helped.
23:04
So
23:04
this
23:05
is
23:05
Ice
23:05
Cream
23:05
man
23:06
issue
23:06
number
23:06
five
23:07
that
23:07
we're
23:07
Talking
23:07
about.
23:07
It's
23:08
titled
23:08
Ballad
23:08
of
23:08
a
23:09
Falling
23:09
Man.
23:09
It's
23:09
someone
23:10
who
23:10
jumped
23:10
off
23:10
the
23:10
top
23:10
of
23:11
a
23:11
corporate
23:11
building.
23:12
This
23:12
is
23:13
written
23:13
by
23:13
W.
23:14
Maxwell
23:15
Prince,
23:15
who
23:15
I
23:16
talked
23:17
to
23:17
before
23:17
and
23:17
was
23:17
open
23:17
to
23:18
being
23:18
on
23:18
the
23:18
podcast,
23:18
and
23:18
I
23:18
forgot,
23:19
so
23:19
I
23:19
need
23:19
to
23:19
reach
23:19
back
23:19
out.
23:20
Art.
23:21
Art
23:21
was
23:21
by
23:22
Martin
23:22
Morazo.
23:23
Colors
23:23
by
23:23
Chris
23:24
o'.
23:24
Malloran.
23:25
Lettering
23:25
by
23:26
good
23:26
old
23:26
neon.
23:27
Guys,
23:28
I'm
23:28
terrible
23:28
at
23:28
pronouncing
23:29
names,
23:29
which
23:29
is
23:29
why
23:29
I
23:29
usually
23:29
have,
23:30
like,
23:30
TJ
23:30
or
23:30
somebody
23:30
on
23:30
here,
23:31
and
23:31
I
23:31
make
23:31
them
23:31
do
23:31
that
23:31
part.
23:32
So
23:32
if
23:32
I
23:32
said
23:32
anything
23:33
incorrect,
23:33
I
23:33
apologize.
23:35
Man.
23:35
Shout
23:35
out
23:36
to
23:36
all
23:36
the
23:36
people
23:36
who
23:36
worked
23:37
on
23:37
this
23:37
comic.
23:37
It
23:38
was
23:38
to
23:38
me.
23:39
I
23:39
thought
23:39
it
23:39
was
23:39
a
23:39
great
23:39
work
23:39
of
23:39
art
23:40
and
23:40
I
23:40
loved
23:41
it.
23:42
I
23:42
wanted
23:42
to
23:42
break
23:43
because,
23:43
like,
23:43
I
23:44
read
23:44
when
23:45
Ice
23:45
Cream
23:45
Man
23:45
Pandemic
23:46
came
23:46
out
23:46
was
23:46
the
23:46
first
23:46
one
23:47
I
23:47
picked
23:47
up,
23:47
which
23:47
I
23:48
think
23:48
was
23:48
technically
23:48
the
23:49
first
23:49
time
23:49
they
23:49
reveal
23:49
Ice
23:49
Cream
23:50
man
23:50
is
23:50
actually
23:50
Satan
23:51
Boiler
23:52
alert.
23:54
And
23:54
I
23:55
loved
23:55
it
23:55
so
23:55
much
23:55
that
23:56
I
23:56
had,
23:56
like,
23:56
I
23:56
picked
23:56
up
23:56
an
23:56
omnibus.
23:57
I'm
23:57
like,
23:57
I'm
23:57
going
23:57
to
23:57
read
23:58
all
23:58
this.
23:58
Like,
23:58
I
23:59
just
23:59
started
23:59
reading
23:59
it,
23:59
like,
24:00
in
24:00
each
24:00
one's
24:00
kind
24:00
of
24:00
like
24:00
a
24:01
little
24:01
short
24:01
story.
24:01
I
24:01
mentioned
24:01
it
24:01
before.
24:02
I
24:03
mean,
24:03
it's
24:03
some
24:03
context,
24:04
but
24:04
I
24:04
want
24:04
you
24:04
to
24:04
know,
24:04
like,
24:04
for
24:05
why
24:05
I
24:05
chose
24:05
this
24:05
as
24:06
one
24:06
that
24:06
was
24:06
particularly
24:06
meaningful
24:07
to
24:07
me.
24:07
I
24:07
have
24:07
this
24:07
odd
24:08
of
24:08
like
24:08
one
24:08
through
24:08
15
24:09
issues,
24:10
and
24:10
I
24:11
was
24:11
gonna
24:11
read
24:11
them
24:11
all
24:11
straight
24:12
and
24:12
I
24:12
hit
24:12
this
24:12
one
24:13
and
24:13
I
24:13
had
24:14
to
24:14
put
24:14
the
24:14
book
24:14
down.
24:15
Like,
24:15
it
24:15
hit
24:16
me
24:16
hard.
24:16
I
24:17
was
24:17
like,
24:17
I.
24:18
I
24:18
actually.
24:18
I
24:19
need
24:19
to
24:19
think
24:19
about
24:19
what
24:20
I
24:20
just
24:20
read.
24:20
Like,
24:21
I
24:21
can't
24:21
just
24:21
keep
24:21
reading.
24:22
I
24:22
need
24:22
to
24:22
think
24:22
about
24:22
this
24:23
one.
24:23
And
24:24
I
24:24
guess
24:24
I
24:25
don't
24:25
think
24:25
I
24:25
would
24:25
call
24:25
it
24:26
prayer.
24:26
It
24:26
feels
24:27
weird
24:27
and
24:27
kind
24:28
of
24:28
hipster
24:28
of
24:28
me
24:28
to
24:28
say
24:29
I
24:29
meditated
24:29
on
24:29
it,
24:29
but
24:30
I
24:30
guess
24:30
that's
24:30
technically
24:30
what
24:30
I
24:31
did
24:31
is
24:31
like,
24:31
I
24:31
put
24:31
it
24:31
down
24:32
and
24:32
I
24:32
was
24:32
like,
24:32
what
24:33
did
24:33
I
24:33
just
24:33
read?
24:34
What
24:34
does
24:34
this
24:34
mean?
24:35
And
24:35
I
24:35
really
24:35
had
24:36
to
24:36
struggle
24:36
with
24:36
it
24:36
for
24:36
a
24:36
minute
24:37
because,
24:37
like,
24:37
it.
24:38
I
24:38
don't
24:38
know
24:38
if
24:38
it
24:39
sucked.
24:40
At
24:40
first.
24:41
I
24:41
really
24:41
thought
24:41
Ice
24:42
Cream
24:42
man
24:42
was
24:42
more
24:42
nihilist.
24:43
Turns
24:43
out
24:44
I
24:44
think
24:44
I'm
24:44
going
24:44
to
24:44
put
24:45
it
24:45
more
24:45
in
24:45
the
24:45
existentialist
24:46
camp
24:47
because
24:47
it's
24:48
not
24:48
saying
24:48
there's
24:49
no
24:49
meaning.
24:50
I'll
24:51
get
24:51
to
24:51
that
24:51
in
24:51
a
24:51
minute.
24:51
The
24:52
context
24:52
I
24:52
wanted
24:52
to
24:52
bring.
24:53
And
24:53
then
24:53
I'll
24:53
let
24:53
Josh,
24:54
since
24:54
he's
24:55
more
24:55
read
24:55
on
24:55
philosophy,
24:56
kind
24:56
of
24:56
talk
24:56
a
24:56
little
24:57
bit
24:57
about
24:57
existentialism
24:58
if
24:58
he
24:58
wants
24:59
context.
24:59
I
24:59
wanted
25:00
to
25:00
bring
25:00
up
25:00
Ice
25:00
Cream
25:00
man
25:01
is
25:01
appears
25:01
in
25:02
some
25:02
of
25:02
the
25:02
comics,
25:02
but
25:02
not
25:03
Every
25:03
comic,
25:04
he's
25:04
not
25:04
in
25:04
all
25:04
of
25:04
them.
25:05
And
25:06
basically
25:06
you
25:06
kind
25:06
of
25:07
see
25:07
in
25:07
different
25:07
issues
25:08
where,
25:08
like,
25:08
he's
25:08
kind
25:08
of
25:09
pulling
25:09
the
25:09
strings,
25:09
but
25:10
he's
25:10
not
25:10
always
25:11
directly
25:11
involved.
25:11
And
25:12
there's,
25:12
you
25:12
know,
25:12
different
25:12
monster
25:12
of
25:13
the
25:13
week
25:13
or
25:13
some
25:13
kind
25:13
of
25:13
terrible
25:14
thing.
25:14
Sometimes
25:14
you
25:14
just
25:15
see
25:15
one.
25:15
At
25:16
one
25:16
point,
25:16
you
25:16
just
25:16
see
25:16
someone
25:17
living
25:17
a
25:17
really
25:17
ordinary
25:18
life
25:18
in
25:18
the
25:18
suburbs.
25:19
And
25:19
it's
25:20
like,
25:20
that
25:20
was
25:20
the
25:21
horror
25:21
story.
25:21
So
25:22
each
25:22
of
25:22
these,
25:22
this
25:22
is
25:23
horror
25:23
comics.
25:23
It's
25:24
supposed
25:24
to
25:24
be
25:24
horror
25:25
in
25:25
the
25:26
classic
25:26
sense
25:26
of
25:26
the
25:26
word.
25:26
Not
25:27
like,
25:27
oh,
25:27
jump
25:27
out
25:27
scary.
25:28
But
25:28
more
25:28
of
25:28
a
25:29
holy
25:29
shit,
25:29
that's
25:29
terrifying.
25:30
Or,
25:31
oh,
25:31
God,
25:31
is
25:32
that
25:32
my
25:32
life?
25:32
You
25:33
know,
25:33
it's
25:33
supposed
25:33
to
25:34
make
25:34
you
25:34
think
25:34
about
25:34
yourself
25:35
in
25:35
kind
25:35
of
25:35
a
25:35
terrifying
25:36
way,
25:36
not
25:36
in
25:36
a
25:37
jump
25:37
scare
25:37
kind
25:38
of
25:38
way.
25:38
Yeah.
25:39
So
25:39
Ice
25:40
Cream
25:40
man
25:40
was
25:41
the
25:41
right
25:41
word.
25:41
It's
25:42
a
25:42
very
25:42
existential
25:42
comic.
25:43
Yeah.
25:43
Yeah.
25:44
I
25:44
think
25:45
the
25:45
only
25:45
other
25:45
character
25:45
that
25:46
needs
25:46
to
25:46
be
25:46
brought
25:47
up,
25:47
Caleb,
25:47
is
25:48
kind
25:48
of
25:48
like.
25:49
It
25:49
seems
25:49
like
25:49
he's
25:50
hunting
25:50
the
25:50
Ice
25:50
Cream
25:50
man
25:51
down
25:51
at
25:51
this
25:51
point.
25:51
They
25:52
don't
25:52
give
25:52
you
25:52
a
25:52
ton
25:52
of
25:53
context,
25:53
but
25:53
he's
25:54
just
25:54
like
25:54
a
25:54
cowboy
25:54
who
25:55
is,
25:55
for
25:56
some
25:56
reason
25:56
going
25:56
after
25:56
the
25:56
Ice
25:57
Cream
25:57
Man.
25:57
So
25:57
you
25:57
don't
25:57
know
25:57
a
25:57
ton
25:57
about
25:58
him,
25:58
but
25:58
he
25:58
has
25:58
shown
25:58
up
25:59
before.
26:00
In
26:00
this
26:00
talks,
26:01
one
26:01
of
26:01
the
26:01
characters
26:01
talks
26:02
about
26:02
Lickety
26:02
Splat.
26:03
He
26:03
uses
26:03
that
26:03
phrase
26:03
a
26:03
few
26:04
times.
26:05
And
26:05
that's
26:05
because
26:05
the
26:06
Ice
26:06
Cream
26:06
man
26:06
usually
26:06
says
26:07
lickety
26:07
split.
26:08
So
26:08
it's
26:08
kind
26:08
of
26:08
like
26:09
a
26:09
nod
26:09
to
26:09
that.
26:10
I
26:10
think
26:10
that's
26:10
the
26:11
main
26:11
context
26:11
thing
26:11
as
26:11
far
26:11
as,
26:12
like,
26:12
in
26:12
comic
26:12
book,
26:13
what
26:13
you
26:13
needed
26:13
to
26:13
know.
26:15
Existentialism,
26:16
Josh,
26:16
why
26:17
is
26:17
this
26:17
more
26:17
that
26:17
and
26:18
not
26:18
nihilist?
26:18
And
26:18
why
26:19
do
26:19
you
26:19
think
26:19
it
26:19
took
26:19
me
26:20
a
26:20
minute
26:20
to
26:20
really
26:21
realize
26:21
what
26:21
I
26:21
was
26:21
reading?
26:23
Analyze
26:23
me.
26:24
Yeah,
26:25
yeah.
26:25
No,
26:25
you're
26:25
good.
26:25
So
26:26
the
26:27
existentialism,
26:28
the
26:28
way
26:29
that
26:29
I
26:29
like
26:29
to
26:29
think
26:29
about
26:30
it
26:30
is
26:31
to
26:31
phrase
26:31
it,
26:32
basically
26:33
to
26:33
put
26:33
it
26:33
in
26:33
conversation
26:34
with
26:34
the
26:34
big
26:34
question.
26:35
So
26:35
when
26:35
we
26:36
are
26:37
doing
26:37
existential
26:38
thinking,
26:38
it's
26:39
basically
26:39
assessing
26:40
the
26:40
fact.
26:40
It's
26:40
recognizing
26:41
your
26:41
finitude,
26:42
the
26:42
fact
26:43
that
26:43
one
26:43
day
26:44
you
26:44
are
26:44
going
26:45
to
26:45
die.
26:45
That
26:45
could
26:46
be
26:46
five
26:46
seconds
26:47
from
26:47
now.
26:47
That
26:48
could
26:48
be
26:48
five
26:48
minutes
26:49
from
26:49
now,
26:49
five
26:49
hours
26:50
from
26:50
now,
26:50
five
26:50
days
26:50
from
26:51
now,
26:51
five
26:51
months
26:51
from
26:51
now,
26:52
five
26:52
years,
26:53
whatever,
26:53
you
26:54
are
26:54
going
26:54
to
26:54
die.
26:55
And
26:55
when
26:55
you,
26:56
like,
26:57
contemplate
26:57
your
26:58
finitude,
26:59
recognize
26:59
that
26:59
and
27:00
accept
27:00
it,
27:00
how
27:01
then
27:01
shall
27:01
we
27:02
live?
27:02
So
27:03
for
27:03
me,
27:03
that's
27:03
what
27:03
existentialism
27:05
is.
27:05
Or,
27:06
like,
27:06
that's
27:06
an
27:06
easy
27:06
way
27:07
to
27:07
kind
27:07
of
27:07
talk
27:07
about
27:08
it.
27:09
And
27:09
so
27:10
why
27:11
this
27:11
particular
27:12
comic,
27:13
I
27:13
think
27:14
fits
27:14
that
27:14
bill
27:15
better?
27:16
I
27:16
mean,
27:16
The.
27:16
So
27:17
the
27:17
suicide
27:18
aspect
27:19
definitely
27:19
feels
27:19
more
27:19
nihilistic
27:20
because
27:20
basically
27:21
the
27:21
dude
27:21
jumps
27:22
off
27:22
the
27:22
building
27:23
and
27:23
it's
27:23
like,
27:23
this
27:24
is
27:24
it.
27:24
It's
27:24
all
27:24
done.
27:25
Whatever.
27:25
It
27:25
doesn't
27:25
really
27:26
seem
27:26
to
27:26
care.
27:27
That's
27:27
very
27:27
nihilistic.
27:28
There's
27:28
no
27:28
meaning,
27:29
there's
27:29
no
27:29
point.
27:30
However,
27:30
the
27:30
other
27:30
character,
27:31
and
27:31
forgive
27:32
me,
27:32
I
27:32
forget
27:32
her
27:32
name
27:33
is
27:33
a.
27:33
Veronica.
27:34
I
27:35
think
27:35
I
27:35
wrote
27:35
it
27:35
down.
27:35
Yeah,
27:36
Veronica.
27:36
Yeah,
27:36
I
27:36
think
27:36
it's
27:37
Veronica.
27:37
So
27:38
Veronica,
27:39
however,
27:39
is
27:40
going
27:40
through
27:41
her
27:41
office
27:41
space
27:42
and
27:43
asking
27:43
all
27:43
of
27:43
these
27:44
huge
27:44
existential
27:45
questions,
27:46
like,
27:46
what
27:46
am
27:46
I
27:46
doing
27:47
here?
27:47
Does
27:47
my
27:47
job
27:48
matter?
27:49
Am
27:49
I
27:49
just
27:49
stuck?
27:50
So,
27:50
like,
27:51
those
27:51
are
27:51
existential
27:52
questions
27:52
because
27:53
they're
27:53
asking
27:53
about
27:54
one's
27:54
being
27:55
in
27:55
the
27:55
world,
27:56
how
27:56
one.
27:56
Like,
27:57
that's
27:57
another
27:57
way
27:57
I
27:57
talk
27:57
about
27:58
existentialism
27:58
is.
27:59
Is
28:00
what
28:01
we
28:01
choose
28:01
to
28:01
do,
28:01
how
28:02
we
28:02
choose
28:02
to
28:02
be
28:02
in
28:03
the
28:03
world
28:03
in
28:03
light
28:03
of
28:04
the
28:04
fact
28:04
that
28:04
one
28:04
day
28:05
we
28:05
will
28:05
die.
28:07
So,
28:07
like
28:07
Dr.
28:07
Aaron
28:08
Simmons,
28:09
philosopher,
28:10
phenomenologist,
28:11
Shadow.
28:12
Yeah.
28:13
Used
28:13
to
28:13
be
28:13
the
28:13
head
28:13
of
28:14
the.
28:14
Or
28:14
the
28:14
president,
28:15
rather,
28:15
of
28:16
the
28:16
Soren
28:17
Kierkegaard
28:17
Society,
28:18
which
28:18
Kierkegaard
28:19
listeners,
28:19
if
28:19
you
28:20
don't
28:20
know
28:20
Kierkegaard,
28:21
was
28:21
one
28:21
of
28:21
the
28:21
big
28:21
names
28:22
in
28:22
existential
28:23
philosophy,
28:24
continues
28:24
to
28:25
be.
28:26
Also
28:26
happened
28:26
to
28:26
be
28:26
a
28:26
Christian.
28:27
So
28:28
when
28:28
anyone
28:28
tells
28:28
you
28:29
that
28:29
you
28:29
can't
28:29
be
28:29
Christian
28:30
and
28:30
existentialist,
28:31
the
28:31
Bible
28:32
is
28:32
an
28:32
existential
28:32
false
28:34
read
28:34
job.
28:35
Yeah,
28:36
but
28:36
like,
28:36
how.
28:36
How
28:37
Aaron
28:37
likes
28:37
to
28:37
talk
28:38
about
28:38
this
28:38
is
28:39
he
28:39
uses
28:39
the
28:39
word
28:40
faith,
28:40
and
28:40
he's
28:40
not
28:41
necessarily
28:42
talking
28:42
about
28:43
faith
28:44
in,
28:44
like,
28:44
a
28:44
Christian
28:45
sense
28:45
or,
28:45
like
28:46
a
28:46
Muslim
28:46
sense
28:46
or
28:47
a
28:47
Buddhist
28:47
sense,
28:47
and,
28:47
like,
28:48
what
28:48
is
28:48
your
28:48
religion?
28:49
But
28:49
he's
28:49
asking
28:50
about
28:50
a
28:50
fundamental
28:51
disposition
28:52
in
28:52
the
28:52
world,
28:53
and
28:53
then
28:53
he
28:53
defines
28:54
faith
28:54
as
28:54
risk
28:55
in
28:55
a
28:55
direction.
28:57
So
28:57
when
28:57
we
28:58
contemplate
28:59
the
28:59
fact
28:59
that
29:00
one
29:00
day
29:00
we
29:00
will
29:00
die,
29:01
we
29:01
ask
29:02
ourselves
29:02
the
29:02
question,
29:03
what
29:03
is
29:03
worthy
29:04
of
29:04
my
29:04
finitude?
29:05
And
29:05
then
29:05
we
29:05
risk
29:06
ourself
29:06
in
29:07
that
29:07
direction.
29:08
Mm.
29:09
So
29:09
for
29:09
me,
29:10
love
29:10
is
29:12
worth
29:12
it.
29:12
When
29:13
I
29:13
contemplate
29:13
my
29:13
finitude,
29:14
or
29:14
Paul
29:15
Tillich
29:15
asks,
29:16
you
29:16
know,
29:16
says,
29:17
faith
29:17
is
29:17
your
29:17
matter
29:18
of
29:18
ultimate
29:18
concern.
29:19
And
29:19
for
29:19
me,
29:19
love
29:20
is
29:20
that.
29:21
So
29:21
for
29:21
me,
29:22
my
29:22
existential
29:23
disposition
29:24
is
29:24
I'm
29:24
always
29:25
going
29:25
to
29:25
risk
29:25
myself
29:26
in
29:26
the
29:26
direction
29:27
of
29:27
love,
29:27
because
29:28
when
29:28
I
29:28
contemplate
29:28
my
29:29
finitude,
29:29
when
29:29
I
29:29
think
29:29
about
29:30
one
29:30
day
29:30
I
29:30
will
29:30
die,
29:31
so
29:31
what
29:31
is
29:31
worthy
29:31
of
29:32
my
29:32
finitude?
29:33
Love
29:33
is
29:33
the
29:33
answer.
29:35
So
29:35
that's
29:35
kind
29:35
of
29:35
the
29:36
existential
29:36
bit.
29:36
And
29:37
I
29:37
think
29:37
those
29:37
are
29:37
the
29:37
kind
29:37
of
29:38
questions
29:38
Veronica
29:38
is
29:39
wrestling
29:39
with
29:39
is
29:39
like,
29:40
what
29:40
the
29:40
fuck
29:40
am
29:40
I
29:40
doing
29:40
with
29:41
my
29:41
life?
29:42
Why
29:42
are
29:42
these
29:42
people
29:43
in
29:43
this
29:43
office
29:43
just,
29:43
like,
29:44
having
29:44
their
29:44
eyes
29:45
ripped
29:45
out
29:45
by
29:45
vultures
29:46
and
29:46
not
29:46
seeming
29:46
to
29:46
care.
29:47
Yeah,
29:48
yeah,
29:48
it
29:48
was
29:49
crazy.
29:50
Yeah,
29:51
man.
29:52
And
29:53
I
29:53
think
29:53
the
29:53
juxtaposition
29:54
of
29:54
the
29:54
two.
29:54
Two
29:55
really
29:55
makes
29:55
it
29:55
more.
29:55
But
29:56
I'll
29:56
get
29:56
to
29:56
that
29:57
in
29:57
a
29:57
minute.
29:57
I
29:57
want
29:57
to
29:57
talk
29:57
a
29:57
little
29:58
bit
29:58
to
29:58
Ice
29:58
Cream
29:59
man
29:59
in
29:59
general
29:59
and
29:59
how,
30:00
like,
30:01
I
30:01
think
30:01
I
30:01
thought
30:01
it
30:01
was
30:02
nihilistic
30:02
because
30:03
everybody
30:03
died.
30:03
And
30:04
that
30:04
seems
30:04
to
30:04
be,
30:04
like,
30:04
a
30:05
theme
30:05
in
30:05
all
30:05
of
30:05
this.
30:05
Like,
30:06
everybody
30:06
dies.
30:06
Which,
30:06
again,
30:07
this
30:07
is
30:07
why
30:07
I
30:07
wanted
30:08
to
30:08
release
30:08
this
30:08
on
30:08
All
30:08
Souls
30:09
Day.
30:09
But
30:11
one
30:11
issue,
30:11
I
30:11
don't
30:12
remember
30:12
exactly
30:12
what
30:12
issue
30:12
it
30:13
was,
30:13
but
30:13
I
30:13
remember
30:13
there
30:13
was
30:13
an
30:13
issue
30:14
where
30:14
the
30:14
person
30:15
had
30:15
been
30:15
dead
30:15
the
30:16
entire
30:16
time
30:17
and
30:17
everyone
30:18
kept
30:18
interacting
30:18
with
30:18
him
30:18
and
30:19
just
30:19
no
30:19
one
30:19
noticed.
30:20
And
30:21
I
30:21
think
30:21
the
30:21
point
30:21
at
30:21
the
30:22
end
30:22
of
30:22
the
30:22
comic
30:22
book
30:22
was
30:22
for
30:22
you
30:22
to
30:22
think,
30:23
like,
30:23
hey,
30:23
would
30:23
anyone
30:24
actually
30:24
notice
30:24
if
30:25
I
30:25
was
30:25
actually
30:26
here
30:26
or
30:26
not?
30:27
Am
30:27
I
30:27
just
30:27
an
30:27
object
30:27
in
30:28
people's
30:28
lives?
30:28
And
30:29
that's
30:29
a
30:29
very
30:29
existentialist
30:30
question,
30:30
right?
30:31
Of
30:31
like,
30:31
oh,
30:32
wait
30:32
a
30:32
minute.
30:32
What
30:32
am
30:32
I
30:32
looking
30:33
for?
30:33
Does
30:33
my
30:33
life
30:33
actually
30:34
have
30:34
meaning?
30:34
Am
30:34
I
30:35
living
30:35
as
30:35
if
30:35
I'm
30:36
going
30:36
to
30:36
die
30:36
and
30:36
that
30:37
matters?
30:38
Yeah.
30:38
And,
30:39
yeah,
30:39
I
30:39
think
30:39
that
30:40
just
30:40
seems
30:40
to
30:40
be
30:40
a
30:40
clear
30:41
theme
30:41
throughout
30:41
all
30:42
of
30:42
the
30:42
Ice
30:42
Cream
30:42
man
30:43
comics
30:43
and
30:43
a
30:43
lot
30:43
of
30:44
horror
30:44
in
30:44
general
30:45
to
30:46
me.
30:46
And
30:46
I
30:46
did
30:46
an
30:46
episode
30:47
about
30:47
this.
30:47
Really
30:47
weird
30:47
about
30:48
an
30:48
episode
30:48
about
30:48
this
30:48
on
30:49
a
30:49
different
30:49
podcast
30:49
called
30:49
Some
30:50
Joyful
30:50
Noises.
30:50
It's
30:50
like
30:51
music.
30:51
And
30:51
I
30:51
was
30:51
comparing
30:51
Noah
30:52
Khan
30:52
and
30:53
Passenger
30:54
and
30:54
why
30:54
I
30:55
like
30:55
Passenger
30:55
more
30:55
than
30:55
Noah
30:56
Khan,
30:56
even
30:56
though
30:56
I
30:56
love
30:56
both,
30:57
is,
30:57
to
30:57
me,
30:57
sometimes
30:58
existentialist
30:59
in.
30:59
In
30:59
modern
31:00
pop
31:00
culture
31:00
can
31:01
be
31:01
purely
31:01
deconstructive
31:03
of,
31:03
oh,
31:03
hey,
31:03
you're
31:04
not
31:04
doing
31:04
this
31:04
right.
31:04
You're
31:04
living
31:05
as
31:05
if,
31:05
you
31:05
know,
31:05
like,
31:06
death
31:06
is
31:06
going
31:06
to
31:06
happen.
31:06
Death
31:07
is
31:07
going
31:07
to
31:07
happen.
31:07
Death
31:07
is
31:07
going
31:07
to
31:08
happen.
31:08
Oh,
31:08
yeah,
31:08
hey,
31:09
whatever.
31:09
And
31:09
it
31:09
verges
31:10
on
31:10
nihilism,
31:10
but
31:10
doesn't
31:11
quite
31:11
get
31:11
there.
31:12
I
31:12
like
31:12
this
31:12
where
31:13
it's,
31:13
like,
31:13
more
31:13
constructive
31:14
existentialism
31:15
of
31:15
like,
31:15
hey,
31:16
wait
31:16
a
31:16
minute.
31:16
Hey,
31:16
you're
31:17
living
31:17
as
31:17
if
31:18
death
31:18
doesn't
31:18
matter.
31:19
Do
31:19
something
31:19
about
31:20
it.
31:21
And
31:21
that's,
31:21
like,
31:21
what
31:21
a
31:21
lot
31:22
of
31:22
Passenger
31:22
songs
31:22
are.
31:23
And
31:24
I
31:24
love
31:24
that.
31:25
And
31:25
I
31:25
think
31:25
that's
31:25
what
31:26
this
31:26
comic
31:26
does,
31:27
is
31:27
kind
31:27
of
31:27
show,
31:27
like,
31:28
to
31:28
me,
31:29
what
31:29
I
31:30
really
31:30
love
31:31
that
31:31
we're
31:31
going
31:31
to
31:31
get
31:31
into
31:32
after
31:32
we
31:32
describe
31:33
the
31:33
plot.
31:34
One
31:34
guy
31:34
is
31:34
jumping
31:35
off
31:35
the
31:35
roof,
31:35
and
31:36
he
31:36
seems
31:36
to
31:36
have
31:36
a
31:36
better
31:37
appreciation
31:37
for
31:38
what
31:38
he's
31:38
losing.
31:39
Like,
31:39
as
31:40
he's
31:40
falling,
31:40
he's
31:40
like,
31:41
hey,
31:41
I
31:41
had
31:41
these
31:42
people
31:42
that
31:42
I
31:42
loved,
31:42
and
31:43
I
31:43
cheated
31:43
on
31:43
my
31:43
wife,
31:43
but
31:43
I
31:44
loved
31:44
both
31:44
of
31:44
them.
31:44
And
31:45
I
31:45
had
31:45
this.
31:46
And
31:46
he's
31:46
accepted
31:47
because
31:47
he
31:47
knows
31:47
he's
31:47
going
31:47
to
31:47
die.
31:48
And
31:48
he's
31:48
like,
31:48
I
31:48
had
31:48
all
31:48
of
31:49
it.
31:49
He's
31:49
really
31:49
appreciative
31:50
of
31:50
all
31:51
of
31:51
those
31:51
things,
31:51
knowing
31:51
that
31:52
there's
31:52
no
31:52
consequence
31:53
because
31:53
he's
31:53
going
31:53
to
31:53
die
31:53
anyway.
31:54
Meanwhile,
31:54
Veronica
31:55
is
31:55
going
31:55
through
31:56
this
31:56
office,
31:56
seeing
31:57
vultures
31:57
attacking
31:58
people.
31:58
Like,
31:58
all
31:58
this
31:58
crazy
31:59
shit.
31:59
Everyone's
31:59
just
32:00
dying.
32:00
And
32:00
she's
32:00
like,
32:01
I
32:01
just
32:01
want
32:01
to
32:01
survive,
32:02
man.
32:03
And
32:04
it
32:04
was
32:04
so
32:04
interesting
32:04
that
32:05
one
32:05
person
32:05
is
32:05
just
32:06
fighting
32:06
to
32:06
survive
32:07
while
32:07
everybody's
32:08
throwing
32:08
their
32:08
life
32:08
at
32:09
her
32:09
and
32:09
she's
32:09
ignoring
32:10
all
32:11
of
32:11
the
32:11
things
32:11
that
32:11
she's
32:12
living
32:12
for
32:12
because
32:12
she's
32:12
trying
32:13
to
32:13
survive.
32:14
Meanwhile,
32:14
there's
32:14
another
32:14
guy
32:15
falling
32:15
off.
32:15
I
32:15
guess
32:15
I'm
32:15
doing
32:15
the
32:16
plot
32:16
summary.
32:16
My
32:16
bad.
32:17
Meanwhile,
32:17
another
32:17
guy
32:18
jumped
32:18
off
32:18
the
32:18
roof
32:19
trying
32:19
to
32:19
kill
32:19
himself.
32:20
And
32:20
while
32:21
he's
32:21
about
32:21
to
32:21
die,
32:22
and
32:22
there
32:22
was,
32:22
like,
32:22
five
32:22
seconds,
32:23
he's
32:24
really
32:24
able
32:24
to
32:25
see
32:25
his
32:25
life
32:25
for
32:25
what
32:25
it
32:26
was
32:26
and
32:26
engage
32:26
with
32:26
that.
32:27
And
32:28
I
32:28
think
32:28
that
32:28
kind
32:29
of
32:29
the
32:29
point
32:29
of
32:29
this
32:29
issue
32:30
in
32:30
particular
32:30
is,
32:30
like,
32:31
if
32:31
you're
32:31
just
32:31
living
32:31
to
32:32
survive,
32:33
sometimes
32:33
you
32:33
miss
32:34
that.
32:34
Hey,
32:34
you
32:34
have
32:34
people
32:35
who
32:35
love
32:35
you.
32:35
You
32:36
have
32:36
messy
32:37
relationships,
32:38
you
32:38
have
32:38
good
32:38
relationships.
32:39
You
32:39
have.
32:40
Maybe
32:40
you
32:40
have
32:40
a
32:40
terrible
32:41
work
32:41
life
32:41
or
32:41
a
32:41
great
32:41
work
32:42
life.
32:42
And,
32:42
like,
32:42
you're
32:43
just
32:43
living
32:43
to
32:43
survive,
32:43
and
32:43
you're
32:44
missing
32:44
all
32:44
of
32:44
it.
32:45
And
32:45
sometimes
32:45
people
32:45
who
32:46
are
32:46
living
32:46
as
32:47
if
32:47
they
32:47
know
32:47
they're
32:47
about
32:48
to
32:48
die
32:49
are
32:49
more
32:49
able
32:50
to
32:50
see,
32:50
hey,
32:51
I
32:51
have
32:51
all
32:51
this.
32:52
Even
32:52
though
32:52
I
32:52
shouldn't
32:52
have
32:52
cheated
32:52
on
32:53
my
32:53
wife,
32:53
I
32:53
love
32:53
both
32:53
of
32:53
these
32:53
people,
32:54
you
32:54
know?
32:54
Like,
32:54
again,
32:55
I
32:55
hate
32:55
that,
32:55
like,
32:56
the
32:56
guy
32:56
who
32:56
fell,
32:56
I
32:56
actually
32:56
think
32:57
was
32:57
probably
32:57
a
32:57
bad
32:57
person.
32:58
Yeah.
32:59
But
32:59
I
32:59
really
32:59
appreciate
33:00
that
33:00
he
33:01
was,
33:01
like,
33:01
able
33:02
to
33:02
see
33:02
his
33:02
life
33:02
for
33:03
what
33:03
it
33:03
was
33:04
and
33:04
almost
33:04
be
33:04
thankful
33:05
for
33:05
it.
33:05
I'm
33:05
a
33:05
big
33:05
Thanksgiving
33:06
guy.
33:06
Is.
33:07
It's
33:07
November
33:07
for
33:07
those
33:07
listening.
33:08
So
33:08
I'm
33:08
like,
33:08
I
33:08
get
33:09
that.
33:09
And
33:09
I
33:09
think
33:09
that's
33:09
another
33:10
thing
33:10
existentialism
33:10
can
33:11
help
33:11
us
33:11
with,
33:11
is
33:11
live
33:12
more
33:12
thankfully.
33:13
But
33:13
that's
33:14
kind
33:14
of
33:14
my
33:15
quick
33:15
take
33:15
on
33:16
what
33:16
else
33:16
happens
33:17
in
33:17
this
33:17
comic
33:17
book.
33:17
I
33:18
mean,
33:18
that,
33:18
like,
33:19
that's
33:19
the.
33:19
That's
33:20
the
33:20
big.
33:20
I
33:20
mean,
33:20
you
33:20
nailed
33:21
the
33:21
plot
33:21
points.
33:22
And,
33:22
like,
33:22
basically,
33:23
as
33:23
he
33:23
jumps,
33:24
he's,
33:24
like,
33:24
going
33:25
through,
33:25
like,
33:25
basically
33:26
almost
33:26
like
33:26
a
33:26
confessional
33:27
as
33:27
he's
33:28
falling.
33:28
He's,
33:29
like,
33:29
confessing
33:29
his
33:30
sins
33:31
before
33:31
the
33:31
world,
33:32
knowing,
33:32
like,
33:33
splat
33:34
is
33:34
going
33:34
to
33:34
happen.
33:35
Lickety
33:36
splatter,
33:36
whatever.
33:37
And
33:37
Veronica
33:38
is
33:38
interesting
33:38
because
33:38
she
33:39
keeps
33:39
encountering
33:40
all
33:40
these
33:40
different
33:40
people.
33:41
And,
33:42
like,
33:42
the
33:42
first
33:42
lady
33:43
is,
33:43
like,
33:43
on
33:44
the
33:44
phone
33:44
trying
33:44
to,
33:44
like,
33:45
make
33:45
sure
33:45
she
33:45
Gets
33:45
paid.
33:46
And
33:46
a
33:46
vulture,
33:46
like,
33:47
plucks
33:47
her
33:47
eyeball
33:48
out,
33:48
literally.
33:49
And
33:49
she's
33:49
still
33:49
on
33:50
the
33:50
phone,
33:50
like,
33:50
oh,
33:51
why
33:51
is
33:51
it
33:51
dark
33:51
in
33:51
here
33:52
now?
33:52
Why
33:52
can't
33:52
I
33:52
see?
33:53
Still
33:53
doing
33:53
her
33:54
thing.
33:54
So,
33:55
like,
33:55
her
33:55
work
33:55
life
33:56
is
33:56
literally
33:56
killing
33:57
her.
33:57
And
33:57
then,
33:57
you
33:57
know,
33:58
Veronica
33:58
stumbles
33:58
upon
33:59
a
33:59
dude
33:59
in
33:59
the
34:00
hallway
34:01
who's
34:01
like,
34:01
guts
34:02
are
34:02
out.
34:02
And
34:02
he
34:02
was
34:03
like,
34:03
oh,
34:03
they
34:03
told
34:04
me
34:04
that
34:04
on
34:04
the
34:04
inside.
34:05
I'm
34:05
sweet.
34:05
And
34:05
they
34:06
were
34:06
right.
34:06
And
34:07
so,
34:07
like,
34:07
he's,
34:08
like,
34:08
bought
34:09
into
34:09
this
34:09
lie
34:10
about,
34:10
like,
34:11
you
34:11
know,
34:11
whatever,
34:11
and
34:12
it's
34:12
literally
34:12
killing
34:13
him.
34:13
He's
34:13
in,
34:13
like,
34:14
it's
34:14
gross.
34:14
His
34:14
guts
34:15
are
34:15
out.
34:15
There's,
34:15
like,
34:15
rats
34:16
eating
34:16
him.
34:18
And
34:18
then,
34:18
like,
34:18
she
34:19
goes
34:19
and,
34:19
like,
34:19
finds
34:20
this
34:20
other
34:20
guy
34:21
in
34:21
the
34:21
office
34:21
who
34:22
she
34:22
works
34:22
with.
34:23
And
34:23
he
34:24
is,
34:24
like,
34:25
confesses
34:25
his
34:25
love
34:26
for
34:26
her.
34:26
Veronica,
34:26
I
34:26
want
34:27
to
34:27
be
34:27
with
34:27
you.
34:27
And
34:27
she's
34:27
like,
34:27
but
34:28
you're
34:28
married.
34:28
And
34:28
also,
34:28
you're
34:29
married
34:29
to
34:29
Tim,
34:30
so,
34:30
like,
34:30
aren't
34:30
you
34:30
gay?
34:31
And
34:31
he's
34:32
like,
34:32
fuck
34:33
Tim.
34:33
And
34:33
he,
34:33
like,
34:33
pulls
34:34
Tim's
34:34
head
34:34
out.
34:35
And
34:35
he
34:35
was
34:35
like,
34:35
this
34:35
is
34:35
what
34:35
I
34:36
think
34:36
of
34:36
Tim.
34:36
So,
34:36
like,
34:37
he
34:37
killed
34:37
him.
34:37
Yeah.
34:38
And,
34:38
like,
34:38
is
34:39
throwing
34:39
himself
34:39
after
34:40
Veronica.
34:40
And
34:40
so
34:40
it's
34:41
like,
34:41
you
34:41
know,
34:41
the
34:42
extent
34:42
that
34:42
people
34:44
kill
34:44
relationships
34:45
in
34:45
order,
34:45
like,
34:46
in
34:46
really
34:46
absurd
34:47
ways
34:47
to,
34:48
you
34:48
know,
34:48
throw
34:48
themselves
34:49
at
34:49
people
34:49
that
34:49
aren't
34:50
even
34:50
aware.
34:50
It's
34:50
like,
34:51
all
34:51
of
34:51
it's
34:51
just
34:52
very
34:52
crazy.
34:53
And
34:53
eventually,
34:54
like,
34:54
I
34:54
think
34:55
it
34:55
might
34:55
be
34:56
in
34:56
that
34:56
scene
34:57
where
34:57
Caleb
34:58
shows
34:58
up
34:58
and
34:58
shoots.
34:59
Or
34:59
the
34:59
vulture
35:00
shows
35:00
up
35:00
to
35:00
attack
35:01
Veronica
35:01
to
35:01
get
35:02
her,
35:02
and
35:02
then
35:02
Caleb
35:03
shows
35:03
up
35:04
with
35:04
an
35:04
arrow
35:05
and
35:05
shoots
35:05
the
35:06
vulture
35:06
and
35:06
Veronica
35:07
manages
35:07
to
35:07
escape.
35:09
But,
35:09
yeah,
35:09
she's
35:09
going
35:10
through
35:10
all
35:10
of
35:10
these
35:10
existential
35:11
questions
35:12
and
35:13
suffering
35:13
and,
35:13
like,
35:13
why
35:14
do
35:14
I
35:14
even
35:14
work
35:14
here?
35:14
Like,
35:15
what
35:15
is
35:15
this?
35:16
Which
35:17
fits
35:17
for
35:17
me,
35:17
dude.
35:17
Because,
35:18
like,
35:18
I.
35:18
I
35:18
mean,
35:18
to
35:19
bring
35:19
the.
35:20
If
35:20
things
35:20
weren't
35:21
already
35:21
low
35:21
enough,
35:22
one
35:22
of
35:22
my
35:22
biggest
35:22
issues
35:23
is,
35:23
like,
35:23
I
35:23
identify
35:24
with
35:24
Veronica
35:25
the
35:25
most
35:25
in
35:26
this
35:26
comic
35:26
because,
35:27
like,
35:27
I
35:28
hate
35:28
working
35:29
in
35:29
the
35:29
corporate
35:30
world.
35:30
I
35:30
hate
35:31
that
35:31
I
35:31
have
35:31
a
35:31
9
35:31
to
35:32
5
35:32
job.
35:32
It's
35:33
like,
35:33
I
35:33
don't.
35:33
I
35:34
feel
35:34
like
35:34
I
35:34
don't
35:34
fit
35:35
in
35:35
the
35:35
system.
35:36
And,
35:36
like,
35:37
everybody
35:37
around
35:37
me
35:38
is
35:39
being
35:39
like.
35:40
Thinks
35:40
that
35:40
the
35:40
system
35:41
is
35:41
helping
35:41
them,
35:41
when
35:42
really
35:42
I
35:42
see
35:42
it
35:42
as
35:43
killing
35:43
them.
35:43
Like,
35:43
the
35:43
vulture.
35:44
And
35:44
I'm,
35:44
like,
35:44
the
35:44
only
35:45
one
35:45
who's
35:45
like,
35:45
why
35:46
are
35:46
we
35:46
playing
35:47
this
35:47
game?
35:48
Like,
35:49
does
35:49
everyone
35:49
not
35:50
realize
35:50
that
35:50
this
35:50
is
35:50
no
35:51
different
35:51
than,
35:51
like,
35:51
kayfabe,
35:52
like,
35:52
WWE
35:53
shit?
35:54
Like,
35:54
what
35:54
is
35:55
happening?
35:56
And,
35:56
like,
35:56
I
35:57
feel
35:57
like
35:57
Veronica
35:58
running
35:58
around
35:58
and
35:58
everyone's
35:59
killing
35:59
themselves
35:59
and,
35:59
like,
36:00
are
36:00
just
36:00
kind
36:01
of
36:01
cool
36:01
with
36:01
it.
36:01
I'm
36:01
like,
36:02
I
36:02
don't
36:02
fit
36:03
the
36:03
system.
36:03
What
36:03
do
36:03
I
36:03
do?
36:05
Yeah,
36:05
yeah.
36:06
You
36:06
know,
36:07
I
36:07
didn't
36:07
think
36:07
about
36:07
some
36:07
of
36:08
the
36:08
juxtapositions
36:09
of
36:09
the
36:10
secondary
36:10
or
36:10
tertiary
36:11
characters
36:11
that
36:12
Veronica's
36:12
engaging
36:13
with
36:13
Bill,
36:14
because
36:14
I.
36:14
I
36:14
think
36:14
there's
36:15
also
36:15
some
36:15
interesting
36:15
corollaries
36:16
there
36:16
that
36:17
I
36:17
really
36:17
hadn't
36:17
even
36:17
thought
36:18
about
36:19
because
36:19
I
36:19
was
36:19
so
36:19
busy
36:20
focusing
36:20
on
36:20
the
36:20
Bill
36:20
versus
36:21
Veronica
36:22
thing
36:22
that
36:22
I'm
36:22
like,
36:22
oh,
36:22
wait
36:22
a
36:22
minute,
36:23
there's
36:23
Tim,
36:24
or
36:24
the
36:25
guy
36:25
who
36:25
was
36:26
married
36:26
to
36:26
Tim.
36:26
I
36:27
don't
36:27
remember
36:27
that
36:27
guy's
36:27
name.
36:28
Who
36:29
is
36:29
like,
36:29
cheating
36:30
on
36:30
his
36:30
spouse.
36:30
And
36:31
it's
36:31
killed
36:31
his
36:32
spouse
36:32
so
36:33
that
36:33
he
36:33
could
36:33
be
36:33
with
36:33
the
36:33
person
36:33
he's
36:34
cheating
36:34
with.
36:34
Meanwhile,
36:35
you
36:35
have
36:35
Bill,
36:35
who's
36:36
like,
36:36
man,
36:36
I
36:36
cheated
36:36
on
36:36
my
36:37
wife.
36:37
And
36:37
I
36:37
hate
36:37
myself
36:38
for
36:38
that
36:38
because
36:39
I
36:39
love
36:39
my
36:39
wife,
36:39
but
36:39
I
36:39
also
36:40
love
36:40
the
36:40
person
36:40
I
36:40
cheated
36:41
on
36:41
her
36:41
with.
36:41
And
36:41
instead
36:41
of
36:42
choosing
36:42
to
36:42
kill
36:42
either
36:42
of
36:43
them,
36:43
he
36:43
killed
36:43
himself.
36:43
And
36:44
it's
36:44
kind
36:44
of
36:44
like,
36:44
man,
36:45
which
36:45
I
36:46
do
36:46
think
36:46
a
36:46
little
36:47
bit
36:47
of
36:47
that
36:47
it
36:48
gets
36:48
into
36:48
weird
36:48
weeds
36:48
because,
36:49
like,
36:49
I'm
36:49
open
36:49
to
36:50
polyamory.
36:51
Different.
36:51
You
36:51
know,
36:51
like,
36:51
I'm
36:52
affirming
36:52
of
36:52
different
36:52
kinds
36:53
of
36:53
things.
36:53
But
36:53
I
36:53
think
36:53
for
36:54
the
36:54
most
36:54
part,
36:54
if
36:54
you
36:54
have
36:54
a
36:55
trusted,
36:56
agreed
36:56
upon.
36:57
What's
36:57
the
36:57
word
36:57
I'm
36:58
looking
36:58
for?
36:58
Agreed
36:58
upon
36:58
something.
36:59
Enthusiastic
36:59
consent.
37:00
Yeah.
37:00
If
37:01
you
37:01
have
37:01
agreed
37:01
upon
37:03
being
37:04
exclusionary
37:05
with
37:05
someone
37:06
and
37:06
then
37:06
cheat
37:07
on
37:07
them,
37:07
like.
37:07
Like,
37:08
you
37:08
know,
37:08
like,
37:08
to
37:08
me,
37:09
I
37:09
feel
37:09
like
37:10
that
37:10
kind
37:10
of
37:10
betrayal
37:12
is
37:12
a
37:12
form
37:12
of
37:12
death
37:13
to
37:14
yourself
37:14
even,
37:14
because,
37:15
like
37:15
you
37:15
said,
37:15
you
37:15
were
37:16
one
37:16
thing
37:16
and
37:16
now
37:16
you're
37:16
not
37:17
that
37:17
thing.
37:17
Right.
37:18
And
37:18
again,
37:19
I
37:19
think
37:19
it's
37:19
different
37:19
if
37:20
you're
37:20
in
37:20
an
37:20
open
37:20
relationship,
37:21
if
37:21
you're
37:21
in
37:21
polyamorous,
37:22
if
37:22
you've
37:22
talked
37:22
to
37:22
your
37:22
partner
37:23
about
37:23
it.
37:23
But
37:24
if
37:24
instead
37:24
you're
37:24
lying
37:24
to
37:24
your
37:25
partner,
37:25
you're
37:25
cheating
37:25
on
37:25
them,
37:25
you're
37:26
doing
37:26
the
37:26
kind
37:26
of
37:26
form
37:26
of
37:26
betrayal
37:27
that's
37:27
when
37:27
I'm
37:27
like,
37:28
no,
37:28
this
37:28
is
37:28
like
37:29
a
37:29
form
37:29
of
37:29
spiritual
37:29
death
37:30
enters
37:30
that
37:30
situation,
37:32
which
37:32
to
37:32
me
37:33
is
37:33
no
37:33
less
37:34
real
37:34
than
37:35
actual
37:35
death
37:35
of
37:36
like,
37:36
hey,
37:36
I
37:36
pulled
37:36
Tim's
37:37
head
37:37
off.
37:38
Mind
37:38
you,
37:38
I
37:39
don't
37:39
canon
37:39
either.
37:40
It's
37:40
just
37:40
one
37:40
of
37:40
those
37:40
where
37:40
I'm
37:40
like,
37:41
yeah,
37:42
the
37:42
spirit
37:42
of
37:43
death
37:43
is
37:43
definitely
37:43
there.
37:45
So
37:45
that
37:45
was
37:45
really
37:46
interesting.
37:46
Glad
37:46
you
37:46
pulled
37:47
that
37:47
out.
37:47
Yeah,
37:48
well,
37:48
I
37:48
mean,
37:48
it's.
37:48
But
37:48
it's
37:48
true,
37:49
though.
37:49
I
37:49
think
37:49
your
37:49
point's
37:50
well
37:50
taken
37:50
because,
37:50
I
37:51
mean,
37:51
especially
37:51
with
37:51
the
37:52
relationship
37:52
thing,
37:53
like,
37:53
it
37:53
is.
37:54
It
37:54
is
37:55
experientially
37:56
experienced
37:57
as
37:57
a
37:57
kind
37:57
of
37:58
loss,
37:58
like,
37:58
as
37:59
a
37:59
death,
38:00
you
38:00
Know,
38:01
even
38:01
if
38:01
it's
38:02
not
38:02
like,
38:02
a
38:02
physical
38:03
death,
38:03
which
38:03
sometimes
38:04
makes
38:04
it
38:04
worse.
38:04
Right.
38:05
Like,
38:06
knowing
38:07
that
38:07
there
38:07
is
38:07
a
38:07
person
38:08
that
38:08
you
38:08
love
38:08
and
38:08
care
38:09
about
38:09
in
38:09
the
38:09
world
38:10
that
38:11
is
38:11
still
38:11
very
38:11
much
38:12
alive,
38:12
but
38:12
to
38:12
you
38:13
is
38:13
now
38:13
a
38:13
ghost.
38:14
Like,
38:14
that's
38:15
a
38:15
kind
38:15
of
38:15
death.
38:16
It
38:16
requires
38:17
the
38:17
same
38:17
kind
38:18
of
38:18
grieving.
38:20
Yeah.
38:20
You
38:20
know,
38:21
anyway,
38:22
yeah,
38:22
I.
38:23
I've
38:23
already
38:23
missed
38:24
my
38:24
therapist.
38:24
Says
38:25
Josh
38:25
with
38:26
my
38:26
therapist.
38:26
Yeah,
38:27
no,
38:30
I
38:30
mentioned
38:30
Passenger
38:31
once,
38:31
already,
38:31
so
38:31
I
38:31
guess
38:32
might
38:32
as
38:32
well.
38:33
I
38:33
forget
38:33
the
38:33
name.
38:34
I
38:34
think
38:34
actually
38:34
the
38:34
name
38:34
of
38:34
the
38:35
album
38:35
is
38:35
all
38:35
the
38:35
Little
38:35
Lights.
38:36
And
38:36
the
38:36
song
38:36
I
38:36
was
38:36
about
38:36
to
38:36
talk
38:37
about
38:37
is
38:37
the
38:37
song
38:37
all
38:37
the
38:38
Little
38:38
Lights,
38:38
which
38:38
is
38:39
kind
38:39
of
38:39
weird.
38:41
I
38:41
remember
38:41
first
38:42
hearing
38:42
that
38:42
after
38:42
a
38:42
bad
38:42
breakup.
38:43
And
38:44
I
38:44
took
38:44
that
38:44
because,
38:45
you
38:45
know,
38:45
he
38:45
talks
38:45
about,
38:45
like,
38:46
all
38:46
the
38:46
little
38:46
lights
38:46
within
38:46
you.
38:47
Each.
38:48
You're
38:48
filled
38:48
with
38:48
all
38:48
these
38:48
little
38:49
lights,
38:49
and
38:49
each
38:49
one
38:50
dies
38:50
as
38:50
you
38:51
love
38:51
is
38:52
lost.
38:52
Or
38:52
something.
38:52
Something
38:52
along
38:52
those
38:53
lines.
38:53
It's
38:53
been
38:54
a
38:54
while
38:54
since
38:54
I've
38:54
really
38:55
listened
38:55
to
38:55
the
38:55
song
38:55
carefully.
38:57
And
38:57
I
38:57
took
38:57
that
38:58
in
38:58
this
38:58
relationship,
38:58
and
38:58
I
38:58
was
38:58
like,
38:59
oh,
38:59
yeah,
38:59
a
38:59
light
38:59
died
39:00
within
39:00
me.
39:00
And
39:01
I
39:01
know
39:01
that
39:01
sounds
39:02
super
39:02
like,
39:02
whatever.
39:02
I'm
39:03
sorry,
39:03
guys.
39:03
It's
39:04
just
39:04
who
39:04
I
39:04
am.
39:04
I
39:05
got
39:05
to
39:05
be
39:05
honest
39:05
about
39:05
some
39:06
stuff.
39:06
But
39:06
I
39:07
remember
39:07
really,
39:07
it
39:08
meaning
39:08
a
39:08
lot
39:08
to
39:08
me
39:08
and
39:08
being
39:09
useful
39:09
in
39:09
that
39:09
time
39:10
of
39:10
grieving
39:10
when
39:10
I
39:10
lost
39:10
this
39:11
relationship
39:12
very
39:12
shortly
39:12
after
39:13
my
39:13
grandfather
39:13
died
39:14
and
39:14
I
39:14
listened
39:15
to
39:15
this
39:15
whole
39:15
album
39:16
on
39:16
repeat,
39:16
and
39:17
I
39:17
was
39:17
like,
39:17
yeah,
39:18
a
39:18
light
39:18
within
39:18
me
39:19
died.
39:19
And
39:19
for
39:19
a
39:20
long
39:20
time,
39:20
I
39:20
actually
39:20
felt
39:21
guilty
39:21
that
39:21
I
39:21
used
39:22
that
39:22
song
39:22
about
39:22
breakup.
39:23
When
39:23
I'm
39:23
like,
39:23
man,
39:23
it's
39:23
so
39:23
clearly
39:24
about
39:24
death.
39:24
And
39:25
now
39:25
I'm
39:25
at
39:25
a
39:25
point
39:25
in
39:25
my
39:25
life,
39:26
and
39:26
I'm
39:26
like,
39:26
fuck,
39:26
it's
39:27
about
39:27
both,
39:27
man.
39:28
Like,
39:28
yeah,
39:28
like
39:28
a
39:29
light
39:29
within
39:29
me
39:29
went
39:30
out.
39:30
And
39:31
the
39:31
part
39:31
of
39:31
the
39:31
song
39:31
that
39:31
I
39:32
missed
39:32
for
39:32
a
39:32
long
39:32
time
39:32
because
39:33
I
39:33
was
39:33
focused
39:33
on,
39:33
like,
39:33
the
39:34
light
39:34
went
39:34
out
39:35
is
39:35
another
39:35
light
39:36
forms
39:37
or
39:37
comes
39:37
to
39:37
be
39:38
when
39:38
you
39:38
form
39:39
a
39:39
new
39:39
love,
39:39
when
39:39
you
39:39
form
39:39
a
39:40
new
39:40
relationship.
39:41
And
39:41
for
39:41
me,
39:41
that
39:41
was
39:42
really
39:42
hard
39:42
for
39:42
me
39:42
to
39:43
grasp
39:43
for
39:43
a
39:43
long
39:43
time.
39:43
I
39:43
don't
39:44
know
39:44
why,
39:44
but
39:44
for
39:45
a
39:45
long
39:45
time,
39:45
it
39:45
was
39:45
easy
39:45
for
39:46
me
39:46
to
39:46
grasp
39:46
that
39:46
loss
39:47
was
39:47
meaningful
39:48
and
39:48
that
39:48
I
39:48
had
39:48
lost
39:49
a
39:49
lot.
39:49
And
39:49
it
39:49
was
39:49
hard
39:49
for
39:50
me
39:50
to
39:50
think
39:50
of,
39:50
like,
39:50
wait
39:50
a
39:50
minute.
39:51
I've
39:51
also
39:51
gained
39:52
a
39:52
lot
39:52
of
39:52
new
39:52
light
39:53
in
39:53
my
39:53
life
39:54
because
39:54
it's
39:55
funny,
39:55
if
39:55
I
39:55
think
39:55
about,
39:55
like,
39:56
the
39:56
time
39:56
in
39:56
my
39:56
life
39:56
when
39:56
that
39:56
first
39:57
came
39:57
out,
39:57
very
39:58
few
39:58
of
39:58
those
39:58
relationships
39:59
are
39:59
still
39:59
in
39:59
my
39:59
life.
39:59
TJ
40:00
is
40:00
one
40:00
of
40:00
the
40:00
few
40:00
ones
40:00
that
40:00
are,
40:01
you
40:01
know,
40:01
a
40:01
Lot
40:02
of
40:02
my
40:02
family.
40:03
But
40:03
now
40:03
I'm
40:03
at
40:03
a
40:03
point
40:03
in
40:03
my
40:04
life
40:04
where,
40:04
like,
40:04
I
40:04
don't
40:04
feel
40:04
like
40:04
I
40:05
lost
40:05
and
40:05
all
40:05
the
40:05
lights
40:06
went
40:06
out
40:06
and
40:06
now
40:06
I'm
40:06
in
40:06
darkness.
40:07
But
40:07
instead
40:07
I'm
40:08
like,
40:08
man,
40:09
now
40:09
I
40:09
have
40:09
J.
40:09
Patty,
40:10
Ryan,
40:10
Dos,
40:11
Will
40:11
Rose,
40:12
you
40:13
know,
40:13
Samantha
40:13
Perez.
40:14
I
40:14
have
40:14
my
40:14
wife.
40:15
I
40:15
have,
40:15
like,
40:15
I
40:16
have
40:16
so
40:16
much
40:16
more
40:17
in
40:17
my
40:17
life.
40:18
And
40:18
it's
40:18
not
40:18
like
40:18
you
40:19
guys
40:19
replace
40:19
my
40:19
old
40:19
friends
40:20
because
40:20
you
40:20
guys
40:20
are
40:20
better,
40:21
but
40:21
it's.
40:21
It's
40:21
like,
40:22
oh,
40:22
hey,
40:22
wait
40:22
a
40:22
minute.
40:22
It's.
40:23
Yeah,
40:23
sometimes
40:23
you
40:24
lose
40:24
relationships,
40:24
but
40:25
it's
40:25
also
40:25
important
40:26
to
40:26
remember
40:26
you
40:26
gain
40:27
relationships.
40:27
And
40:28
just
40:28
like
40:28
the
40:28
loss
40:29
of
40:29
a
40:29
relationship
40:29
can
40:30
feel
40:30
like
40:30
death,
40:30
the
40:30
gain
40:31
of
40:31
a
40:31
relationship
40:32
should
40:32
bring
40:32
new
40:32
life
40:33
to
40:33
you,
40:33
I
40:33
think.
40:33
New
40:34
life.
40:34
Yeah.
40:34
Yeah.
40:35
No,
40:35
I.
40:35
I'm
40:36
with
40:36
you,
40:36
man.
40:36
And
40:36
that.
40:36
I
40:36
think
40:36
that
40:37
that
40:37
cuts
40:37
across
40:37
the
40:38
board
40:38
not
40:38
just
40:38
of,
40:39
like,
40:39
dating
40:40
relationships,
40:40
but,
40:41
like,
40:41
the
40:41
loss
40:41
of
40:41
an
40:42
important
40:42
friendship
40:43
or
40:43
the
40:44
loss
40:44
of
40:44
a
40:44
community.
40:45
Right.
40:46
Like,
40:46
so
40:46
many
40:46
people
40:46
who
40:47
experience
40:47
the
40:47
whole
40:47
deconstruction
40:48
thing
40:49
and
40:49
have
40:49
to
40:49
step
40:50
away
40:50
from
40:50
church
40:50
world,
40:50
like,
40:51
that's
40:51
a
40:51
loss.
40:52
Not
40:52
only
40:52
are
40:53
you
40:53
having
40:53
your
40:53
worldview
40:54
taken
40:54
away
40:54
from
40:54
you,
40:55
which
40:55
is
40:55
something
40:56
to
40:56
be
40:56
grieved,
40:56
but
40:57
you're
40:57
losing
40:57
an
40:57
entire
40:58
community
40:58
of
40:59
people.
41:00
That's
41:00
another
41:00
loss.
41:01
That
41:01
is
41:01
a
41:01
type
41:02
of
41:02
death
41:03
where,
41:03
yeah,
41:04
a
41:04
light
41:04
goes
41:05
out.
41:06
Especially
41:06
too,
41:07
like,
41:08
when
41:08
you're
41:08
in
41:08
relationship
41:09
with
41:09
people
41:10
in.
41:10
In
41:11
general.
41:11
Again,
41:12
friends,
41:12
family,
41:13
romantic,
41:13
whatever.
41:14
Your
41:15
being
41:15
is
41:15
constituted
41:16
by
41:16
your
41:16
relationship
41:17
with
41:17
that
41:17
person.
41:18
Like,
41:18
you
41:18
do
41:19
not
41:19
know
41:19
who
41:19
you
41:19
are
41:20
outside
41:20
of
41:21
relationship
41:21
with
41:22
them.
41:22
Like,
41:23
in
41:24
order
41:24
for
41:24
you
41:24
to
41:24
know
41:25
who
41:25
you
41:25
are,
41:25
it
41:26
necessitates
41:26
an
41:26
other
41:27
to
41:27
tell
41:27
you
41:27
who
41:28
you
41:28
are.
41:28
Like,
41:29
I
41:29
know
41:29
our.
41:29
Our
41:30
culture
41:31
is
41:31
hyper
41:31
individualistic,
41:32
and
41:32
we
41:33
do
41:33
this
41:33
like,
41:33
rah,
41:33
rah,
41:34
pull
41:34
yourself
41:34
up
41:34
by
41:35
your
41:35
bootstraps.
41:36
But
41:36
that's
41:36
all
41:36
it
41:36
is.
41:37
It's
41:37
a
41:37
lie.
41:38
Like,
41:38
all
41:38
of
41:39
us
41:39
only
41:39
ever
41:40
exist
41:40
in
41:40
relationship
41:41
to
41:41
everyone
41:42
and
41:42
everyone
41:42
else.
41:43
And
41:44
so,
41:44
like,
41:44
when
41:45
those
41:45
things
41:46
falter
41:47
or
41:47
start
41:47
to
41:47
fall
41:48
apart,
41:48
it's
41:49
painful
41:49
because,
41:50
like,
41:51
in
41:51
a
41:51
very
41:52
real
41:52
sense,
41:53
who
41:53
you
41:53
are
41:54
has
41:54
been
41:54
constituted
41:55
by
41:56
this
41:56
person,
41:57
by
41:57
this
41:57
family
41:58
member,
41:58
by
41:58
this
41:59
community,
41:59
by
42:00
this
42:00
friendship.
42:01
And
42:01
you
42:01
can't
42:02
tell
42:02
your
42:02
story
42:02
without
42:03
them.
42:03
And
42:04
so,
42:04
like,
42:04
it's.
42:04
It's
42:05
not
42:05
just
42:05
a
42:06
loss
42:06
of
42:06
another
42:06
person.
42:07
It's
42:07
a
42:07
loss
42:07
of
42:07
self,
42:08
which
42:08
is
42:08
the
42:08
whole,
42:08
like,
42:09
the
42:09
light
42:09
turning
42:09
off
42:10
thing.
42:11
Yeah,
42:12
it
42:12
sucks.
42:14
Oh,
42:15
man.
42:15
Listeners
42:16
are
42:16
tired
42:16
of
42:17
hearing
42:17
me
42:17
quote
42:18
C.S.
42:18
lewis's
42:19
Four
42:19
Loves.
42:21
Will
42:22
is
42:22
tired
42:22
of
42:22
having
42:22
to
42:23
take
42:23
shots
42:23
when
42:23
I
42:23
mentioned
42:24
Kingdom
42:24
Hearts,
42:24
so
42:25
I'll
42:25
do
42:25
both
42:25
right
42:25
now.
42:27
CS
42:28
Lewis
42:28
and
42:28
The
42:29
four
42:29
loves.
42:29
One
42:29
of
42:29
the
42:29
lines.
42:29
This
42:30
is
42:30
the
42:30
first
42:30
time
42:30
that
42:30
this
42:31
truth
42:32
meant
42:32
something
42:32
to
42:33
me,
42:33
that
42:33
I
42:33
was
42:33
able
42:33
to
42:33
grasp
42:34
it.
42:34
He
42:35
talks
42:35
about
42:35
friendship
42:36
and
42:36
how
42:37
me
42:37
and
42:38
you
42:38
and.
42:39
Man,
42:39
who's
42:39
that?
42:40
You
42:40
know
42:40
what?
42:40
I'm
42:40
okay
42:40
killing
42:41
TJ
42:41
off
42:41
in
42:41
the
42:41
scenario.
42:42
That'll
42:43
be
42:43
fine.
42:43
He
42:43
won't
42:43
be
42:43
offended
42:44
by
42:44
it.
42:44
Me,
42:44
you,
42:44
and
42:45
tj.
42:45
You
42:45
know,
42:45
looks
42:45
like
42:46
we
42:46
have,
42:46
like,
42:46
a
42:46
really
42:46
close
42:46
friendship,
42:47
the
42:47
three
42:47
of
42:47
us,
42:48
and
42:48
TJ
42:49
dies.
42:49
And
42:50
what
42:50
CS
42:51
Lewis
42:51
talks
42:51
about
42:51
is
42:51
like,
42:51
I'm
42:51
friend
42:52
A,
42:52
you're
42:52
friend
42:52
B,
42:52
you're
42:53
TJ's
42:53
friend
42:53
C.
42:54
He
42:54
uses
42:55
A,
42:55
B,
42:55
C.
42:55
I
42:55
like
42:56
names.
42:56
I
42:56
like
42:56
being
42:56
personal
42:57
with
42:57
my
42:57
death.
42:58
Yeah.
42:59
He's
42:59
like,
42:59
I
42:59
didn't
43:00
just
43:00
lose
43:00
TJ
43:00
when
43:01
TJ
43:01
died,
43:01
if
43:01
the
43:02
three
43:02
of
43:02
us
43:02
hung
43:02
out
43:02
regularly.
43:03
I
43:03
also
43:04
lost
43:05
a
43:05
part
43:05
of
43:05
Josh
43:05
Patterson
43:06
that
43:06
only
43:06
comes
43:06
out
43:07
when
43:07
TJ's
43:07
around.
43:08
Yeah.
43:08
And
43:09
I'm
43:09
sorry,
43:09
pastors,
43:10
if
43:10
you
43:10
listen
43:11
to
43:11
this
43:11
and
43:11
you're
43:12
offended
43:12
that
43:12
I
43:12
cheat,
43:13
but
43:13
I
43:13
cheat
43:13
on
43:13
All
43:14
Saints
43:14
Day
43:14
and
43:14
All
43:14
Souls
43:15
Day,
43:16
when
43:16
they
43:16
let
43:16
me
43:16
light
43:16
candles
43:17
for
43:17
my
43:17
family
43:17
members
43:18
that
43:18
I've
43:18
lost,
43:18
I
43:19
always
43:19
light
43:19
an
43:19
extra
43:20
one.
43:20
And,
43:20
like,
43:21
this
43:21
is
43:21
in
43:21
memory
43:22
of
43:22
the
43:22
parts
43:22
of
43:23
me
43:23
that
43:23
only
43:24
came
43:24
to
43:24
light
43:24
when
43:24
you
43:25
were
43:25
around.
43:25
But
43:26
it's
43:26
also
43:27
to
43:27
remind
43:28
me
43:28
of
43:28
the
43:28
parts
43:29
of
43:29
me
43:29
that
43:29
only
43:30
exist
43:30
because
43:30
you
43:31
were
43:31
around.
43:32
And
43:32
to
43:32
me,
43:33
that's
43:33
a
43:33
really
43:33
meaningful
43:33
practice.
43:34
And
43:34
I
43:34
know
43:34
it's
43:34
not
43:34
part
43:35
of
43:35
All
43:35
Saints
43:35
Day,
43:36
and
43:36
the
43:36
pastors
43:36
don't
43:36
tell
43:37
me
43:37
to
43:37
do
43:37
this,
43:37
but
43:38
hopefully,
43:38
I
43:39
don't
43:39
think
43:39
anyone
43:39
would
43:39
stop
43:39
me.
43:39
I
43:40
know
43:40
Will
43:40
won't
43:40
stop
43:40
me,
43:40
so
43:40
if
43:41
I
43:41
have
43:41
to
43:41
go
43:41
to
43:41
Will
43:41
church
43:41
to
43:42
do
43:42
it,
43:42
it's
43:42
fine.
43:44
But,
43:44
like,
43:44
to
43:44
me,
43:44
I
43:45
don't
43:45
know,
43:45
that's
43:45
just
43:46
as.
43:46
Just
43:46
as
43:46
important.
43:48
Yeah.
43:49
Yeah.
43:49
No,
43:50
I'm
43:50
the
43:51
Kingdom
43:51
Hearts
43:51
cyan.
43:52
Sorry
43:53
to
43:53
make
43:53
Will
43:53
take
43:54
a
43:54
shot.
43:55
Part
43:55
of
43:56
why
43:56
I
43:56
love
43:56
Kingdom
43:57
Hearts
43:57
now.
43:58
For
43:58
a
43:58
long
43:58
time,
43:59
I
43:59
didn't
43:59
know
44:00
why
44:00
I
44:00
loved
44:00
it,
44:00
and
44:00
I
44:00
just
44:01
loved
44:01
it
44:01
because
44:01
the
44:02
world
44:02
and
44:02
things
44:02
and
44:02
nostalgia
44:03
and
44:03
the
44:03
more
44:03
I've
44:04
grown,
44:04
the
44:04
more
44:04
I've
44:04
learned
44:04
to
44:05
love
44:05
it
44:05
for
44:05
new
44:05
reasons.
44:06
Part
44:06
of
44:06
growth.
44:07
You
44:07
either
44:08
learn
44:08
to
44:08
stop
44:08
loving
44:08
things
44:09
or
44:09
learning
44:09
or
44:10
learn
44:10
to
44:10
love
44:10
it
44:10
for
44:10
new
44:10
reasons.
44:10
It's
44:11
just
44:11
kind
44:11
of
44:11
like
44:11
how
44:11
life
44:11
works.
44:13
I've
44:13
discovered
44:14
what
44:14
the
44:14
games
44:14
are
44:14
actually
44:15
about.
44:15
And
44:16
if
44:16
you
44:16
go
44:16
through
44:16
each
44:16
game,
44:17
each
44:17
one
44:17
is
44:17
like,
44:18
are
44:18
you
44:18
still
44:18
you
44:18
without
44:19
this
44:19
component?
44:20
Are
44:20
you
44:21
still
44:21
you
44:21
without
44:21
your
44:21
heart?
44:22
Is
44:22
like
44:22
the
44:22
original
44:22
one.
44:23
And
44:23
then
44:23
it
44:23
goes,
44:23
are
44:23
you
44:23
still
44:24
you
44:24
if
44:24
you
44:24
don't
44:24
have
44:24
Any
44:24
of
44:25
your
44:25
memories?
44:25
Are
44:26
you
44:26
still
44:26
you
44:26
without
44:26
your
44:27
body?
44:27
Are
44:27
you
44:27
still
44:28
you
44:28
without
44:28
your
44:28
soul?
44:29
Is
44:29
what
44:29
I
44:29
think
44:29
is
44:29
probably
44:29
going
44:30
to
44:30
be
44:30
next.
44:30
You
44:30
know,
44:31
like,
44:31
they
44:31
have
44:31
all
44:31
these
44:31
different
44:32
scenarios.
44:32
Like,
44:32
are
44:32
you
44:32
still
44:33
you
44:33
without.
44:33
Fill
44:34
in
44:34
the
44:34
blank.
44:34
Right?
44:34
And
44:35
one
44:35
of
44:35
the
44:35
most
44:35
powerful
44:35
lines
44:36
in
44:36
the
44:36
first
44:36
game,
44:36
and
44:37
I
44:37
just
44:37
played
44:37
through
44:38
it
44:38
again
44:38
recently
44:38
because
44:39
I'm
44:39
a
44:39
dork.
44:42
I
44:42
played
44:42
through
44:42
it
44:43
three
44:43
different
44:43
times
44:43
at
44:44
once
44:44
and
44:45
heard
44:45
the
44:45
same.
44:46
Like,
44:46
I
44:46
actually
44:46
watched
44:46
the
44:46
video
44:47
for
44:47
this
44:47
part
44:47
each
44:47
time
44:47
because
44:48
I
44:48
love
44:48
it
44:48
so
44:49
much.
44:49
It's
44:50
like
44:51
one
44:51
of
44:51
the
44:51
bad
44:51
guys
44:52
takes
44:52
your
44:52
weapon,
44:53
and
44:53
it's
44:53
because
44:54
it's
44:54
like
44:54
your
44:54
weapon
44:55
goes
44:56
to
44:56
whoever
44:56
has
44:56
the
44:56
strongest
44:57
heart.
44:57
And
44:57
he's
44:57
like,
44:57
look,
44:57
I
44:57
have
44:57
a
44:57
stronger
44:58
heart
44:58
than
44:58
you.
44:58
And
44:58
then
44:58
you
44:58
end
44:59
up
44:59
getting
44:59
it
44:59
back.
44:59
He's
44:59
like,
45:00
wait,
45:00
how?
45:00
You
45:00
can't
45:01
be
45:01
stronger
45:01
than
45:01
me.
45:02
And
45:02
the
45:02
main
45:02
character,
45:03
who's
45:03
like
45:03
a
45:03
little
45:03
kid
45:04
in
45:04
this,
45:04
and
45:04
it's
45:04
like
45:04
the
45:04
cheesiest
45:05
lines
45:05
ever.
45:05
He's
45:06
like,
45:06
well,
45:06
you're
45:06
right.
45:07
I'm
45:07
not
45:07
very
45:08
strong,
45:08
but
45:09
my
45:09
friends
45:10
are
45:10
my
45:10
strength
45:11
and
45:12
my
45:13
friends
45:13
are
45:13
my
45:13
power.
45:13
And
45:14
it's
45:14
like
45:14
the
45:14
cheesiest,
45:15
silliest
45:16
line
45:16
ever.
45:17
And
45:17
even,
45:17
like,
45:17
when
45:17
I
45:17
was
45:18
a
45:18
kid,
45:18
I
45:18
was
45:18
like,
45:18
I'm
45:18
gonna
45:18
skip
45:18
this
45:19
because
45:19
if
45:19
anyone
45:19
sees
45:19
me
45:19
watching
45:20
this,
45:20
they're
45:20
gonna
45:20
make
45:20
fun
45:20
of
45:20
me.
45:20
And
45:21
now
45:21
I'm
45:21
like
45:21
a
45:21
full
45:21
grown
45:22
adult.
45:22
I'm
45:22
like,
45:22
I'm
45:23
gonna
45:23
watch
45:23
this
45:23
full
45:24
blast
45:24
as
45:24
loud
45:25
as
45:25
I
45:25
can.
45:25
Because
45:25
that
45:25
is
45:26
the
45:26
most
45:26
true
45:26
thing
45:27
I've
45:27
ever
45:27
heard
45:27
in
45:28
my
45:28
life.
45:29
It's
45:29
like.
45:29
Like,
45:30
Sora
45:30
is
45:30
not
45:30
Sora.
45:31
Sora
45:32
is
45:33
Sora.
45:33
With
45:33
Genie,
45:34
with
45:34
Aladdin,
45:35
with
45:35
Hercules,
45:36
with
45:36
Kyrie,
45:37
with
45:37
every
45:38
single
45:38
person
45:38
that
45:39
he's
45:39
made
45:39
bonds
45:39
with.
45:40
And
45:40
that's
45:40
why
45:40
it's
45:41
so
45:41
important
45:41
in
45:41
these
45:41
games
45:42
that
45:42
you
45:42
visit
45:42
all
45:42
these
45:42
different
45:42
worlds
45:43
and
45:43
form
45:43
all
45:43
these
45:43
relationships.
45:44
Because
45:44
you
45:45
are
45:45
your
45:45
relationships.
45:46
Yeah,
45:47
100%.
45:47
And
45:48
that.
45:48
Like,
45:48
that.
45:49
Yes.
45:49
And
45:50
that's
45:50
why
45:50
the
45:50
friendship
45:50
thing
45:51
is
45:51
so
45:51
important.
45:52
That's
45:52
why,
45:52
like,
45:53
you
45:53
know,
45:53
listeners
45:54
will
45:54
know
45:54
Trip
45:54
Fuller
45:55
loves
45:56
Lord
45:56
of
45:56
the
45:56
Rings.
45:56
What's
45:57
Tripp's
45:57
favorite
45:57
thing
45:57
about
45:58
it?
45:58
Is
45:58
it
45:59
about
45:59
friendship?
45:59
Like,
46:00
that's
46:00
like
46:01
the
46:01
Sam
46:02
Frodo
46:02
bit.
46:03
Yeah,
46:03
Crazy,
46:04
you
46:05
know,
46:05
like
46:05
the.
46:06
What
46:06
is
46:07
the
46:07
line?
46:07
I'm
46:07
gonna
46:07
mess
46:07
that
46:07
up.
46:08
Because,
46:08
like,
46:08
secret.
46:09
I
46:09
haven't
46:09
read
46:09
Lord
46:10
of
46:10
the
46:10
Rings.
46:10
But,
46:11
like,
46:11
don't
46:11
tell
46:11
Nick.
46:13
Yeah,
46:14
don't
46:14
tell
46:14
Nick.
46:14
Poke.
46:15
Nick.
46:15
If
46:15
you're
46:15
listening,
46:16
I've
46:16
definitely
46:17
read
46:17
Lord
46:17
of
46:17
the
46:17
Rings,
46:18
man.
46:18
Don't.
46:18
Yeah,
46:18
this
46:18
is
46:18
just
46:19
a
46:19
bit.
46:19
Nick,
46:19
I'm
46:20
Just
46:20
gonna
46:20
gaslight
46:20
you
46:21
into
46:21
thinking
46:23
I'm
46:23
doing
46:24
a
46:24
bit.
46:24
It's
46:24
for
46:24
the
46:24
podcast.
46:26
But
46:26
what's,
46:26
what's
46:27
the
46:27
line
46:27
where,
46:27
you
46:27
know,
46:29
Sam,
46:29
basically
46:30
he
46:30
tells
46:30
Frodo,
46:31
like,
46:31
I
46:32
can't
46:32
carry
46:33
the
46:33
ring
46:33
to
46:33
Mordor
46:34
for
46:34
you,
46:34
but
46:35
I
46:35
can
46:35
carry
46:35
you.
46:36
And
46:37
so
46:37
he
46:37
picks
46:37
up
46:38
Frodo
46:38
and
46:38
carries
46:39
him
46:39
to
46:39
Mordor.
46:40
Yeah,
46:40
that's.
46:41
Yeah,
46:42
I
46:42
love
46:43
that.
46:43
It's
46:43
so
46:43
funny
46:44
because,
46:44
like,
46:44
I
46:44
love
46:45
that,
46:45
but
46:46
I
46:46
hate
46:46
seeing
46:46
the
46:47
picture
46:47
of
46:47
like,
46:47
wait
46:48
a
46:48
minute,
46:48
why
46:48
is
46:48
there's
46:48
one.
46:49
One
46:49
line
46:49
of
46:49
footprints
46:50
and
46:50
Jesus,
46:50
like.
46:50
Because
46:51
I
46:51
carried
46:51
you.
46:52
I
46:52
don't
46:52
know
46:52
why
46:52
that
46:53
bothers
46:53
the
46:53
hell
46:53
out
46:53
of
46:54
me,
46:54
but
46:54
say
46:54
I'm
46:54
doing
46:54
the
46:55
exact
46:55
same
46:55
thing.
46:55
I'm
46:56
like,
46:56
yeah,
46:56
Sam.
46:59
But
46:59
I
46:59
mean,
47:00
I
47:00
think
47:00
that's
47:00
what
47:01
the.
47:01
So
47:01
you
47:02
mentioned
47:02
earlier,
47:02
like,
47:03
the
47:03
loss
47:03
of
47:03
community.
47:04
Yeah,
47:06
I
47:06
don't
47:06
think
47:06
there's
47:06
gonna
47:07
be
47:07
a
47:07
huge
47:07
pivot.
47:08
To
47:08
me,
47:08
I
47:08
think
47:08
that's
47:09
part
47:09
of
47:09
my
47:09
problem
47:09
with
47:10
the
47:10
whole
47:10
Jesus
47:11
line
47:11
is
47:11
so
47:11
many
47:11
times
47:12
so
47:12
much
47:12
of
47:12
the
47:12
Bible
47:12
and
47:13
these
47:13
different
47:13
faith
47:14
things
47:14
have
47:14
been
47:14
co
47:14
opted
47:15
by
47:15
a
47:16
certain
47:16
group
47:16
of
47:16
people
47:16
that
47:17
sometimes
47:17
I
47:17
feel
47:17
like
47:18
ostracized
47:18
me
47:19
and
47:19
I'm
47:20
like,
47:20
ah,
47:20
I
47:20
don't.
47:21
But
47:22
yeah,
47:22
you
47:22
know
47:22
what?
47:22
Lord
47:22
of
47:23
the
47:23
Rings
47:23
hasn't
47:23
been
47:23
co
47:23
opted
47:24
by
47:24
that
47:24
group.
47:25
Group,
47:25
totally.
47:25
So,
47:26
yeah,
47:26
this,
47:26
this
47:27
version.
47:28
And
47:28
it
47:29
is
47:29
true.
47:29
I
47:29
think
47:30
it
47:30
was
47:30
really,
47:30
actually
47:31
really
47:31
hard
47:31
for
47:32
me
47:32
because
47:32
I,
47:33
I
47:33
basically,
47:34
I
47:34
was
47:34
teaching
47:35
from
47:35
a
47:36
very
47:36
conservative
47:37
point
47:37
of
47:37
view,
47:38
commentary
47:39
on
47:39
the
47:39
book
47:39
of
47:39
Song
47:39
of
47:39
Solomon,
47:40
basically
47:41
saying
47:41
the
47:41
book
47:41
is
47:41
about
47:41
sex.
47:42
And
47:43
here's
47:43
the
47:43
thing.
47:43
Marriage,
47:44
the
47:44
way
47:44
that
47:44
it
47:44
means
47:44
in
47:44
America
47:45
wasn't
47:45
always
47:45
what
47:45
marriage
47:46
meant.
47:46
Sometimes
47:46
it
47:46
meant
47:47
this.
47:47
And
47:47
this
47:47
is
47:47
why
47:47
I
47:48
think
47:48
sexual
47:48
activity
47:49
and
47:49
commitment
47:49
are
47:50
the
47:50
things
47:50
that
47:50
should
47:50
go
47:50
hand
47:50
in
47:51
hand.
47:51
And
47:51
I
47:51
wasn't
47:51
even
47:51
saying
47:52
anything
47:52
super
47:52
progressive,
47:53
right?
47:54
And
47:54
because
47:54
like,
47:54
I
47:55
said
47:55
it
47:55
online
47:56
and
47:56
children
47:57
could
47:57
read
47:57
it,
47:58
they
47:58
were
47:58
like,
47:58
well,
47:58
you
47:58
will
47:59
never
47:59
be
47:59
a
47:59
youth
47:59
pastor
47:59
again.
48:00
If
48:00
you
48:00
keep
48:00
going
48:00
down
48:00
this
48:00
ride,
48:01
you
48:01
will.
48:01
You
48:01
will
48:02
be
48:02
like,
48:02
shipwrecked
48:02
like
48:03
Paul
48:03
and
48:03
you'll
48:03
be
48:03
stuck
48:03
on
48:04
an
48:04
island
48:04
and
48:04
all
48:04
this
48:05
stuff.
48:05
And
48:05
I'm
48:05
like,
48:05
oh.
48:05
Like,
48:06
I
48:06
felt
48:07
so
48:08
dead
48:08
inside,
48:08
so
48:09
dark.
48:09
And
48:10
no
48:10
one
48:10
I
48:10
talked
48:10
to
48:11
because,
48:11
like
48:11
my
48:11
closest
48:12
friends,
48:12
Spoiler
48:13
alert.
48:13
For
48:13
a
48:13
long
48:13
time
48:13
haven't
48:14
really
48:14
been
48:14
people
48:14
in
48:14
church.
48:15
And
48:15
I
48:15
don't.
48:15
I
48:16
didn't
48:16
feel
48:16
like
48:16
any
48:16
of
48:16
them
48:17
got
48:17
it.
48:17
Like,
48:17
none
48:17
of
48:17
them
48:17
understood
48:18
why
48:18
I
48:18
was
48:18
so
48:18
distraught
48:19
from
48:19
losing
48:20
this
48:20
community.
48:20
They
48:21
were
48:21
just
48:21
kind
48:21
of
48:21
like,
48:21
what
48:22
do
48:22
you
48:22
mean?
48:22
It
48:22
sounded
48:22
like
48:22
they
48:22
were
48:22
jackasses.
48:24
Like,
48:24
I
48:24
like
48:24
I
48:25
just
48:25
don't
48:25
feel
48:25
like
48:25
they
48:25
got
48:25
it.
48:25
And
48:26
I
48:26
think
48:26
that's
48:26
part
48:26
of
48:26
why.
48:26
Going
48:27
to
48:27
theology,
48:27
beer
48:27
camp,
48:27
meeting
48:28
you
48:28
guys.
48:28
Even
48:28
though
48:28
I
48:28
don't
48:29
think
48:29
we've
48:29
ever
48:29
explicitly
48:30
talked
48:30
about
48:30
it,
48:30
it's
48:31
almost
48:31
like
48:31
I
48:31
could
48:31
tell,
48:32
like,
48:32
that
48:33
same
48:33
pain
48:33
I
48:33
felt,
48:34
like,
48:34
I.
48:34
Like,
48:34
I
48:34
could
48:35
tell
48:35
that
48:36
you
48:36
guys
48:36
felt
48:36
the
48:36
same
48:36
thing.
48:36
And,
48:37
like,
48:37
we
48:37
don't
48:37
even
48:37
have
48:37
to
48:37
talk
48:38
about
48:38
it.
48:38
But
48:38
that
48:38
connection
48:39
formed
48:40
a
48:40
relationship,
48:40
and
48:40
now,
48:41
hey,
48:41
new
48:41
light,
48:42
new
48:42
community.
48:44
I
48:44
mean,
48:44
I
48:44
hope
48:44
that
48:45
for
48:45
everyone,
48:45
but
48:45
I
48:45
don't
48:45
want
48:45
to
48:46
say,
48:46
like,
48:46
hey,
48:46
if
48:46
you
48:46
lost
48:46
something,
48:47
don't
48:47
worry,
48:47
it'll
48:47
get
48:47
better.
48:48
Maybe
48:48
it
48:48
won't.
48:49
Maybe
48:49
it'll
48:49
just
48:49
keep
48:50
fucking
48:50
sucking.
48:51
And
48:51
I
48:51
hate
48:51
that,
48:51
and
48:52
I'm
48:52
sorry,
48:53
but
48:53
I
48:54
also
48:54
really
48:54
hate
48:54
when
48:55
people
48:55
are
48:55
like,
48:55
oh,
48:55
it'll
48:56
get
48:56
better.
48:56
This
48:56
too
48:57
will
48:57
pass.
48:57
Sometimes
48:57
it
48:57
doesn't
48:58
fucking
48:58
pass.
48:58
And
48:59
I
48:59
just
48:59
feel
48:59
like
48:59
sometimes
48:59
we
48:59
gotta
49:00
be
49:00
honest
49:00
about
49:00
that.
49:01
I'm
49:01
really
49:01
thankful
49:02
that
49:02
I
49:02
did
49:02
find
49:02
a
49:02
new
49:02
community,
49:03
but
49:03
I
49:03
think
49:04
that
49:04
loss
49:04
is
49:04
really
49:04
important.
49:05
So
49:05
I
49:06
wanted
49:06
to
49:06
highlight
49:06
that.
49:07
Yeah.
49:08
Because,
49:08
yeah,
49:09
sometimes
49:09
that
49:09
shit's
49:09
dark
49:10
and
49:11
it
49:11
goes
49:11
back
49:11
to,
49:12
like,
49:12
all
49:12
the
49:12
little
49:12
lights.
49:12
Right.
49:13
Yeah.
49:15
This
49:15
was
49:15
supposed
49:15
to
49:15
be
49:16
a
49:16
Passenger
49:16
episode
49:17
you
49:18
brought
49:18
up.
49:18
They're
49:19
another
49:19
official
49:19
sponsor.
49:20
Yeah,
49:20
yeah.
49:21
The
49:21
Wonder
49:21
Years
49:22
in
49:22
Passenger
49:22
and
49:23
apparently
49:23
Disney,
49:24
so
49:24
we
49:24
should
49:24
be
49:24
crushing
49:25
it
49:25
financially.
49:26
Yeah.
49:27
I
49:27
hope
49:27
you're
49:27
all
49:27
free
49:28
members
49:29
or
49:29
patriots,
49:30
because,
49:30
like,
49:30
apparently
49:30
we're
49:31
super
49:31
sponsored.
49:33
But,
49:35
yeah,
49:35
one
49:35
of
49:35
the
49:35
things,
49:36
too,
49:36
that
49:36
you
49:36
mentioned,
49:37
I'm
49:37
gonna
49:37
pivot
49:38
away
49:38
because
49:38
I
49:38
just.
49:38
I'm
49:39
gonna
49:39
sit
49:39
on
49:39
that
49:39
one.
49:40
I
49:40
don't
49:40
want
49:40
to
49:41
say
49:41
any
49:41
more
49:41
about
49:41
that,
49:42
actually.
49:42
I
49:42
think,
49:43
yeah,
49:43
it's
49:43
dark.
49:44
Sometimes
49:44
things
49:44
are
49:44
dark.
49:45
The
49:45
book
49:46
also
49:46
shows
49:46
kind
49:47
of
49:47
this
49:47
corporate
49:47
life
49:48
thing
49:48
and
49:49
people
49:49
straight
49:50
up
49:50
dying,
49:50
having
49:50
their
49:51
eyes
49:51
plucked
49:51
out,
49:51
not
49:51
even
49:52
noticing.
49:52
And,
49:52
like,
49:53
the
49:53
irony
49:53
of,
49:54
like,
49:54
literally
49:54
going
49:55
blind
49:55
and
49:55
being
49:55
blind
49:56
to
49:56
their
49:56
own
49:56
life
49:56
because
49:57
they're
49:57
so
49:57
consumed
49:57
with
49:57
work.
49:58
It's
49:58
like,
49:58
oh,
49:58
man,
49:58
that
49:59
was
49:59
those
49:59
two
50:00
panels
50:00
alone.
50:00
I
50:00
feel
50:01
like
50:01
you
50:01
could
50:01
just
50:02
frame
50:02
it
50:02
on
50:02
your
50:02
wall
50:03
if
50:03
you
50:03
wanted
50:03
to.
50:05
And
50:05
yet
50:05
I
50:06
think
50:06
your
50:06
corporate
50:07
life
50:07
is
50:07
an
50:07
important
50:07
part
50:08
of
50:08
who
50:08
you
50:08
are.
50:08
Like,
50:09
what
50:09
you
50:09
do
50:09
for
50:10
a
50:10
job.
50:11
Like,
50:11
I
50:11
don't
50:11
think
50:11
you
50:11
can
50:11
ignore
50:12
it.
50:12
Like,
50:13
if
50:13
I
50:13
were
50:13
to
50:13
tell
50:13
someone
50:14
who
50:14
I
50:14
was
50:14
and
50:15
never
50:15
mentioned
50:15
that
50:15
I
50:16
work
50:16
at
50:16
Chipotle
50:17
and
50:18
I
50:18
love
50:18
cooking,
50:19
and
50:20
I
50:20
never
50:20
mentioned
50:20
that.
50:20
Like,
50:21
I
50:21
learned
50:21
all
50:21
this
50:22
stuff
50:22
at
50:22
Shutterfly
50:22
and
50:23
had
50:23
my
50:23
time
50:23
there.
50:23
Like,
50:23
I
50:24
feel
50:24
like
50:24
I'm
50:24
not
50:24
giving
50:24
you
50:24
a
50:24
full
50:25
version
50:25
of
50:25
who
50:25
I
50:25
am,
50:26
but
50:26
it's
50:26
also
50:27
not
50:27
what
50:27
I
50:27
live
50:27
For.
50:29
Yeah,
50:29
so
50:29
I
50:29
thought
50:30
that
50:30
was
50:30
an
50:30
important
50:30
bit
50:31
because
50:31
I
50:31
don't
50:32
think
50:32
the
50:32
comic
50:32
was
50:32
trying
50:32
to
50:33
say,
50:34
completely
50:34
ignore
50:35
work.
50:35
Work
50:35
sucks.
50:36
Let's
50:36
go
50:36
to
50:37
full
50:37
socialism
50:38
or,
50:38
you
50:38
know,
50:38
whatever.
50:39
Like,
50:39
I
50:40
don't
50:40
think
50:40
it
50:40
was
50:40
trying
50:40
to
50:41
say
50:41
that,
50:41
but
50:41
it
50:42
definitely
50:42
was
50:42
trying
50:42
to
50:42
make
50:42
a
50:43
commentary
50:43
of,
50:43
like,
50:44
how
50:44
we
50:44
treat
50:45
our
50:45
corporate
50:46
life.
50:47
Did
50:48
you
50:48
want
50:48
to
50:48
talk
50:48
more
50:48
of
50:48
that?
50:48
Because
50:48
it
50:48
felt
50:49
like
50:49
you
50:49
had
50:49
more
50:49
to
50:49
say
50:49
about
50:49
that
50:49
than
50:50
I
50:50
did.
50:50
Sure.
50:50
Well,
50:51
yeah,
50:51
sure.
50:51
I
50:51
mean,
50:52
I
50:52
think
50:52
it's,
50:52
you
50:52
know,
50:52
the
50:52
cliche
50:53
is
50:53
work
50:53
life
50:53
balance,
50:54
but
50:54
I'll
50:54
try
50:54
to
50:55
tie
50:55
it
50:55
in
50:55
and
50:55
make
50:55
it
50:55
personal.
50:56
So
50:56
when
50:57
I
50:57
was
50:57
ready,
50:58
I'm
50:58
going
50:58
to
50:58
use
50:58
some
50:58
Christian
50:59
language
50:59
just
50:59
for
50:59
you,
50:59
Joshua.
51:00
When
51:00
I
51:00
was
51:01
discerning,
51:03
stepping
51:03
away
51:03
from
51:04
my
51:04
role
51:04
in
51:05
vocational
51:05
ministry
51:06
and
51:06
I
51:06
was
51:07
working
51:07
with
51:07
a
51:07
spiritual
51:08
director,
51:09
we
51:09
discovered
51:10
that
51:10
I
51:11
had
51:11
conflated
51:12
my
51:13
vocation
51:14
with
51:14
who
51:15
I
51:15
was,
51:15
with
51:15
my
51:16
identity.
51:17
So
51:17
Josh
51:17
Patterson
51:18
was
51:19
wrapped
51:19
up
51:19
in
51:20
the
51:20
vocation.
51:20
Pastor.
51:21
And
51:21
so
51:22
when
51:22
I
51:22
was
51:22
stepping
51:22
away
51:23
from
51:23
ministry,
51:23
part
51:24
of
51:24
what
51:24
was
51:24
so
51:24
difficult
51:25
about
51:25
it
51:25
was
51:26
I
51:26
didn't
51:26
know
51:26
myself
51:27
apart
51:27
from
51:28
my
51:28
vocation.
51:28
I
51:29
thought,
51:29
josh
51:29
Patterson
51:30
is
51:30
pastor.
51:31
And
51:31
by
51:32
walking
51:32
away
51:33
from
51:33
that,
51:33
I'm
51:34
flipping
51:34
the
51:34
bird
51:34
to
51:34
myself.
51:35
I'm
51:35
flipping
51:35
the
51:35
bird
51:36
to
51:36
God.
51:36
I
51:36
couldn't
51:37
differentiate.
51:38
And
51:38
what
51:38
I
51:38
did
51:39
with
51:39
therapy
51:40
and
51:41
also
51:41
a
51:41
spiritual
51:41
director
51:42
is
51:42
learn
51:42
how
51:42
to
51:43
differentiate.
51:43
Differentiate.
51:44
Differentiate.
51:45
Differentiate.
51:46
Yeah,
51:47
we'll
51:47
say
51:47
it
51:47
five
51:47
more
51:47
times.
51:48
Differentiate.
51:48
Anyway,
51:50
you
51:50
know,
51:50
myself,
51:51
like,
51:51
who
51:51
Josh
51:52
Patterson
51:52
is
51:52
from
51:52
my
51:53
vocation,
51:53
from
51:53
my
51:53
work.
51:54
And
51:54
I
51:54
think
51:54
that's
51:55
really
51:55
important
51:57
to
51:57
be
51:57
able
51:57
to
51:57
say,
51:58
like,
51:58
oh,
51:58
no,
51:58
actually,
51:59
pastor
52:00
is
52:00
a
52:01
game.
52:01
I
52:01
like
52:02
to
52:02
think
52:02
about
52:02
things
52:02
in
52:03
terms
52:03
of
52:03
games
52:03
because
52:03
they
52:04
like
52:04
having
52:04
fun.
52:04
Pastor
52:05
is
52:05
a
52:05
game
52:06
that
52:06
I
52:06
can
52:06
play
52:06
or
52:07
that
52:07
I
52:07
get
52:07
to
52:07
play
52:08
or
52:08
when
52:09
I
52:09
was.
52:09
Which
52:09
was
52:09
helpful
52:10
because
52:10
then
52:10
when
52:10
I
52:10
became
52:11
a
52:11
bartender
52:11
and
52:11
a
52:12
brewer,
52:12
I
52:12
never
52:13
made
52:13
the
52:13
mistake
52:13
of
52:14
conflating
52:14
who
52:14
I
52:14
was
52:15
with
52:15
my
52:15
job.
52:16
I
52:16
was
52:16
like,
52:16
oh,
52:17
isn't
52:17
this
52:17
so
52:17
much
52:18
fun
52:18
that
52:19
now
52:19
I
52:19
get
52:19
to
52:19
play
52:19
the
52:20
game
52:20
called
52:20
Bartender,
52:21
and
52:22
I'm
52:22
still
52:22
Josh
52:22
Patterson.
52:23
And
52:23
then,
52:23
like,
52:24
even
52:24
now,
52:25
I,
52:25
you
52:25
know,
52:25
I
52:26
work
52:26
for
52:26
the
52:27
state
52:28
government,
52:29
and
52:30
it's
52:31
just
52:31
a
52:31
hat
52:31
that
52:31
I
52:32
wear.
52:32
It's
52:32
a
52:32
game
52:32
that
52:33
I
52:33
play.
52:33
And
52:34
that
52:34
doesn't
52:34
mean
52:34
I
52:34
don't
52:35
care
52:35
about
52:35
my
52:35
job.
52:36
It
52:36
doesn't
52:36
mean
52:36
I
52:36
don't
52:36
do
52:36
a
52:37
good
52:37
job.
52:37
Like,
52:38
I'm
52:38
a
52:38
good
52:38
team
52:39
player.
52:39
I
52:39
care
52:40
about
52:40
my
52:40
subs.
52:41
I
52:41
do
52:42
everything
52:42
to
52:42
the
52:42
best
52:42
of
52:43
my
52:43
ability.
52:43
But
52:44
when
52:44
I
52:44
leave,
52:45
I
52:45
leave
52:46
my
52:46
job
52:46
at
52:47
my
52:47
job
52:48
because
52:48
it's
52:48
not
52:48
who
52:49
I
52:49
am.
52:49
And
52:49
I
52:50
don't
52:50
think
52:50
it
52:50
should
52:50
be
52:51
who
52:51
I
52:51
am,
52:53
you
52:53
know?
52:53
And
52:53
maybe,
52:53
you
52:54
know,
52:54
honestly,
52:54
I
52:54
do
52:55
get
52:55
jealous
52:55
of
52:55
people
52:56
like
52:56
my
52:56
partner
52:57
Noel.
52:58
She
52:59
is
52:59
doing
52:59
a
53:00
job
53:00
in
53:00
a
53:00
space
53:01
that
53:01
she
53:02
loves.
53:02
So
53:03
she
53:03
works
53:03
in
53:03
animal
53:04
welfare.
53:04
She
53:04
is
53:04
the
53:06
director
53:07
of
53:08
philanthropy
53:09
and
53:09
communication
53:10
at
53:10
the
53:10
largest
53:11
animal
53:11
shelter
53:12
in
53:12
the
53:12
state
53:12
that
53:12
we
53:12
live
53:13
in.
53:13
Sick.
53:13
And
53:14
she
53:14
fucking
53:14
crushes
53:15
it.
53:16
She
53:16
loves
53:16
animals.
53:17
She
53:17
loves
53:17
animal
53:18
welfare.
53:18
Her
53:19
degrees
53:19
in
53:19
communication,
53:20
so
53:20
she's,
53:20
like,
53:20
thriving
53:21
in
53:21
this
53:21
environment.
53:23
But
53:23
also,
53:24
too,
53:24
I
53:24
still
53:24
think
53:24
she
53:25
can
53:25
differentiate
53:26
between
53:26
who
53:27
she
53:27
is
53:27
and
53:27
her
53:28
work.
53:28
And
53:28
so
53:29
I
53:29
think
53:29
that's
53:29
an
53:29
important
53:30
thing
53:30
that
53:30
the
53:31
comic
53:31
is
53:32
kind
53:32
of
53:32
talking
53:32
about,
53:33
because
53:33
Veronica
53:33
still
53:34
works
53:34
there.
53:35
She
53:35
sees
53:36
all
53:36
the
53:36
craziness
53:36
and
53:37
she's
53:37
still
53:37
a
53:37
part
53:37
of
53:38
it,
53:38
but
53:38
she
53:39
doesn't
53:39
allow
53:39
it
53:39
to
53:39
consume
53:40
her.
53:40
And
53:41
I
53:41
think
53:41
that's
53:41
the
53:41
message
53:42
because,
53:42
like,
53:43
to
53:43
quote
53:44
Propaganda,
53:45
who
53:45
I
53:45
love,
53:45
if
53:46
people
53:46
don't
53:46
know,
53:47
hip
53:47
hop
53:47
artists,
53:47
spoken
53:48
word
53:48
artists.
53:49
Check
53:49
out
53:49
prop
53:50
stuff.
53:50
Fantastic.
53:52
He,
53:52
like,
53:53
makes
53:53
this
53:53
point
53:53
like,
53:53
look,
53:54
we
53:54
can
53:54
sit
53:54
around
53:54
and
53:55
bemoan
53:55
capitalism
53:56
all
53:57
day
53:57
long,
53:57
but
53:58
it's
53:58
also
53:58
the
53:58
water
53:59
that
53:59
we
53:59
swim
53:59
in.
54:00
So
54:00
you
54:00
might
54:00
as
54:01
well
54:01
learn
54:01
how
54:01
to
54:01
swim.
54:02
But
54:03
just
54:03
be
54:03
aware
54:04
that
54:04
you
54:04
are
54:05
indeed
54:05
swimming
54:05
in
54:06
water.
54:07
And
54:08
I
54:08
love
54:08
that.
54:08
And
54:08
I
54:08
think
54:09
that's
54:09
maybe
54:09
one
54:10
of
54:10
the
54:10
things
54:10
that
54:10
the
54:10
comic
54:11
is
54:11
nodding
54:12
to.
54:12
So
54:12
sorry,
54:12
end
54:13
of.
54:13
I
54:13
don't
54:13
know
54:14
how
54:14
long
54:14
that
54:14
was.
54:14
Five
54:14
minute
54:15
rant.
54:16
Yeah.
54:16
You
54:16
turned
54:16
me
54:16
onto
54:17
propaganda
54:17
recently,
54:18
and
54:18
I'm
54:18
loving
54:18
it.
54:19
I'm
54:20
loving
54:20
it.
54:20
Prop
54:21
is
54:21
the
54:21
shit.
54:22
Oh,
54:22
man.
54:22
Yes.
54:23
So
54:23
good.
54:24
Yeah.
54:25
It's
54:25
interesting.
54:26
In
54:26
this
54:26
comic,
54:26
you
54:27
see
54:28
Bill
54:28
jumps
54:28
off
54:29
the
54:29
building
54:29
and
54:30
he
54:30
is
54:30
avoiding
54:31
the
54:32
problems.
54:33
The
54:33
people
54:33
in
54:33
the
54:33
building
54:34
don't
54:35
even
54:35
see
54:35
the
54:36
problem.
54:36
They're
54:36
just
54:37
being
54:37
killed
54:37
by
54:37
it.
54:38
And
54:38
Veronica
54:38
is
54:38
the
54:39
only
54:39
person
54:39
who's
54:39
like,
54:39
I
54:40
want
54:40
to
54:40
live.
54:41
Yeah,
54:42
it's
54:42
like
54:42
that.
54:43
Have
54:43
you
54:43
seen
54:43
that
54:44
video?
54:45
Sorry.
54:45
This
54:45
is
54:45
ADHD
54:46
talking.
54:47
I
54:47
love
54:47
it.
54:48
It's
54:48
an
54:48
old
54:49
YouTube
54:49
video
54:49
of,
54:50
like,
54:50
two
54:50
kids.
54:51
They're
54:52
two
54:52
dudes,
54:52
they're
54:52
probably
54:53
like
54:53
10,
54:54
11
54:54
years
54:55
old,
54:55
and
54:55
they're
54:55
skateboarding.
54:56
And
54:57
one
54:57
of
54:57
the
54:57
kids
54:58
hits
54:58
a
54:58
rock.
54:59
And,
54:59
like,
54:59
I
54:59
don't
54:59
know
55:00
if
55:00
you've
55:00
ever
55:00
skateboarded
55:01
before,
55:01
but
55:01
the
55:01
smallest
55:02
pebble
55:03
will
55:03
stop
55:03
your
55:04
wheel.
55:04
You'll
55:05
just
55:05
fly
55:05
off.
55:05
It
55:05
happens
55:06
to
55:06
all
55:06
of
55:06
us.
55:07
This
55:07
kid
55:07
eats
55:08
it,
55:08
and
55:09
his
55:09
friend
55:09
is
55:09
like,
55:10
dude,
55:10
I
55:10
got
55:10
that
55:11
bail
55:11
on
55:11
tape.
55:11
Like,
55:12
are
55:12
you
55:12
okay?
55:12
Are
55:12
you
55:13
okay?
55:13
And
55:13
he
55:14
was
55:14
like,
55:14
I
55:14
figured
55:14
out
55:14
it
55:14
was
55:15
this
55:15
damn
55:15
ass
55:15
rock.
55:16
Like,
55:16
this
55:17
damn
55:17
gay
55:17
ass
55:18
rock
55:18
is.
55:18
You
55:18
know,
55:19
I'm
55:19
not
55:19
condoning
55:20
the
55:20
language
55:20
I'm
55:20
just
55:21
saying,
55:21
this
55:21
is
55:21
what
55:21
he
55:21
said.
55:21
And
55:22
he
55:22
was
55:22
like,
55:22
do
55:22
you
55:22
want
55:22
to
55:23
do
55:23
something
55:23
weird,
55:23
like
55:24
pee
55:24
on
55:24
it?
55:24
And
55:25
the
55:25
kid's
55:25
like,
55:25
no,
55:26
I
55:26
just
55:27
want
55:27
to
55:27
live.
55:29
He's
55:30
like,
55:30
oh,
55:31
that's.
55:31
You
55:31
can
55:32
live.
55:33
But
55:33
also,
55:33
do
55:33
you
55:33
want
55:33
to,
55:34
like,
55:34
pee
55:34
on
55:34
this
55:34
damn
55:35
ass
55:35
rock
55:36
that
55:36
made
55:36
you
55:36
fall
55:36
off
55:36
your
55:37
porn?
55:38
God.
55:39
So
55:39
funny.
55:40
So
55:40
anyway,
55:40
I
55:41
just
55:41
want
55:41
to
55:41
live.
55:42
It's
55:42
like,
55:42
one
55:42
of
55:42
my
55:42
favorite.
55:43
That's
55:44
great.
55:45
Oh,
55:45
man.
55:46
You
55:46
can
55:47
live.
55:49
I
55:49
will
55:49
send
55:49
you
55:49
the
55:50
video.
55:51
Yeah,
55:51
that's
55:52
hilarious.
55:53
This.
55:53
Damn.
55:55
I
55:55
do
55:55
think
55:55
it's
55:55
funny
55:55
too,
55:56
though.
55:56
Like.
55:56
Like,
55:56
think
55:57
of
55:57
this
55:57
as,
55:57
like,
55:57
a
55:57
horror
55:58
comic
55:58
ending
55:59
with
55:59
the
55:59
series
56:00
of
56:00
how,
56:00
like,
56:01
Bill,
56:02
no
56:02
whore
56:03
wants
56:03
to
56:03
die,
56:03
is
56:04
going
56:04
to
56:04
die
56:05
doing
56:05
a
56:05
little
56:05
memoir
56:05
of
56:06
his
56:06
life
56:06
as
56:06
he
56:06
falls.
56:07
Yep.
56:07
Peace
56:07
out.
56:08
All
56:08
the
56:08
people
56:08
who
56:09
are
56:09
literally
56:09
being
56:10
eaten
56:10
and
56:10
shit
56:11
in
56:11
this
56:11
building.
56:12
No
56:12
horror.
56:12
They
56:12
don't
56:13
even
56:13
notice
56:13
that
56:13
they're
56:13
dying.
56:14
Literally.
56:14
The
56:15
only
56:15
person
56:15
who
56:15
survives
56:16
is
56:16
the
56:16
only
56:16
one
56:16
who
56:16
is
56:17
traumatized
56:17
in
56:17
horror,
56:18
like,
56:18
filled
56:19
with
56:19
the
56:19
horror
56:19
of
56:19
everything
56:20
that's
56:20
happening.
56:20
And
56:21
I
56:21
think
56:21
that's
56:21
one
56:21
of
56:21
those
56:22
things
56:22
that's,
56:22
like,
56:22
so
56:22
weird.
56:23
It's
56:23
like
56:23
the
56:24
only
56:24
person
56:24
who
56:24
actually
56:25
walks
56:25
away
56:25
from
56:26
this
56:26
is
56:27
actually
56:27
the
56:27
person
56:27
who
56:27
was
56:27
impacted
56:28
the
56:28
most
56:28
from
56:28
what
56:28
happened.
56:30
Yeah.
56:30
Is
56:30
the
56:30
one
56:30
who,
56:31
like,
56:31
not
56:31
to
56:31
use,
56:32
like,
56:32
appropriate
56:32
language,
56:33
but
56:33
is
56:33
the
56:33
one
56:33
who
56:34
is
56:34
woke.
56:34
It's
56:35
the
56:35
one
56:35
who's
56:35
awake
56:36
to
56:36
what
56:36
is
56:37
happening
56:37
and
56:37
is
56:38
responding
56:38
to
56:38
their
56:39
environment
56:39
accordingly.
56:40
So.
56:40
Hashtag
56:41
stay
56:41
woke,
56:42
friends.
56:42
Hashtag
56:42
childish
56:43
Gambiano,
56:45
man.
56:46
Yeah.
56:47
There's
56:47
so
56:47
much
56:47
you
56:47
could
56:47
say
56:48
about
56:48
this
56:48
comic,
56:49
and
56:49
it's
56:49
just.
56:49
I
56:50
think
56:50
everybody
56:50
should
56:50
read
56:50
it
56:50
for
56:50
themselves.
56:51
It's
56:51
not
56:51
a
56:51
long
56:51
read.
56:52
Not
56:52
expensive
56:52
on
56:52
Kindle
56:53
or
56:53
anything.
56:53
Maybe
56:54
five
56:54
minutes.
56:54
Yeah.
56:55
But
56:55
I
56:55
think
56:55
it's
56:55
like
56:55
$2
56:56
on
56:56
Kindle.
56:56
If
56:56
you
56:57
don't
56:57
have
56:57
Kindle
56:57
limited
56:58
or
56:58
whatever,
56:59
I
56:59
think
56:59
it's
56:59
worth
56:59
it.
57:00
Yeah.
57:00
It
57:00
hit
57:01
me
57:01
hard
57:02
just
57:02
going
57:02
through.
57:03
I
57:03
think
57:03
probably
57:04
because
57:04
the
57:04
other
57:04
issue
57:04
is
57:05
it's
57:05
like
57:05
there's
57:05
a
57:05
monster
57:06
or
57:06
someone
57:06
else
57:06
dying
57:06
or
57:07
they
57:07
didn't
57:07
know
57:07
someone's
57:08
dying.
57:08
And
57:08
this
57:08
one
57:08
is
57:09
like,
57:09
people
57:09
are
57:09
doing
57:10
it
57:10
to
57:10
themselves.
57:11
And
57:11
then
57:11
I
57:11
have
57:11
to
57:12
sit
57:12
there
57:12
and
57:12
think,
57:12
like,
57:12
am
57:13
I
57:13
doing
57:13
it
57:13
to
57:13
myself?
57:14
And
57:14
I
57:14
think
57:15
that's
57:15
probably
57:16
the
57:16
question
57:16
they
57:16
want
57:16
you
57:17
to
57:17
walk
57:17
away
57:17
from,
57:17
is
57:17
like,
57:18
am
57:18
I
57:19
killing
57:19
myself?
57:19
Maybe
57:20
not
57:20
literally,
57:21
but,
57:21
like,
57:21
is
57:22
there
57:22
any
57:22
way
57:22
in
57:22
which
57:22
the
57:23
way
57:23
that
57:23
I
57:23
am
57:23
living
57:24
is
57:24
actually
57:24
killing
57:25
my
57:25
soul?
57:26
You
57:26
know?
57:27
Yeah.
57:28
Yeah,
57:28
I.
57:29
And
57:29
that's
57:29
a
57:29
huge.
57:30
To
57:30
bring
57:30
it
57:30
back.
57:30
That's
57:31
a
57:31
huge
57:31
existential
57:31
question.
57:32
Yeah.
57:32
What
57:33
is
57:33
worthy
57:33
of
57:33
my
57:33
finitude?
57:34
Is
57:34
what
57:35
I'm
57:35
doing
57:36
worth
57:36
the
57:36
fact
57:36
that
57:37
one
57:37
day
57:37
I
57:37
will
57:37
die?
57:38
And
57:38
like,
57:38
like,
57:39
this
57:39
is
57:39
one
57:39
of
57:39
the
57:39
questions
57:40
that
57:40
I
57:40
actually
57:41
think,
57:41
and
57:42
people
57:42
argue
57:42
with
57:43
me
57:43
about
57:43
this,
57:43
that
57:44
I
57:44
actually
57:44
think
57:44
atheists
57:45
bring
57:45
a
57:45
lot
57:46
of
57:47
credence
57:47
into.
57:47
And
57:48
I
57:48
think,
57:48
you
57:48
know,
57:48
existentialism
57:49
is
57:50
often
57:50
associated
57:50
with
57:50
atheism,
57:52
which
57:52
is
57:52
fine.
57:53
But
57:53
when
57:53
I
57:54
ask
57:54
the
57:54
question
57:54
of
57:55
like,
57:55
what
57:55
is
57:56
worthy
57:56
of
57:56
my
57:56
affinitude,
57:57
I
57:57
often
57:58
feel
57:58
that
57:58
something
57:58
like
57:59
heaven
57:59
is
57:59
a
57:59
distraction
58:00
because
58:00
if
58:01
I
58:01
have
58:01
an
58:02
escape
58:02
that
58:03
I
58:03
can
58:03
get
58:03
to
58:04
after
58:04
this
58:04
life,
58:05
what
58:05
the
58:05
fuck
58:05
is
58:06
the
58:06
point
58:06
of
58:06
my
58:06
life
58:07
currently?
58:07
It
58:07
doesn't
58:08
matter.
58:09
Especially
58:09
if
58:09
we're
58:10
going
58:10
to
58:10
start
58:10
talking
58:10
like
58:11
Calvinists
58:11
and
58:11
say
58:11
like,
58:12
no
58:12
predestination
58:13
is
58:13
true,
58:14
I
58:14
have
58:14
no
58:14
say
58:15
anyway.
58:17
Yeah,
58:17
but
58:17
even
58:18
if
58:18
we
58:18
have
58:18
free
58:18
will
58:19
and
58:19
like,
58:19
oh,
58:19
I
58:20
guess
58:20
I
58:20
could
58:20
be
58:20
good
58:20
people
58:21
or
58:21
whatever,
58:21
but
58:21
it
58:21
doesn't
58:22
really
58:22
matter
58:22
if
58:23
we're
58:23
just
58:23
gonna
58:23
like,
58:23
go
58:24
fuck
58:24
off
58:24
for
58:24
eternity
58:25
somewhere
58:26
like
58:26
this
58:26
finite
58:27
life.
58:27
Why
58:28
I
58:28
actually
58:29
think,
58:30
and
58:30
like,
58:30
maybe
58:30
I'm
58:31
biased
58:31
because,
58:31
like,
58:32
I
58:32
only
58:32
believe
58:32
in
58:33
an
58:33
afterlife
58:33
on
58:34
good
58:34
days,
58:34
when
58:34
I'm
58:35
feeling
58:35
happy
58:36
most
58:36
of
58:36
the
58:37
time
58:37
I
58:37
don't
58:37
think
58:37
it's
58:38
a
58:38
thing.
58:38
I
58:38
hope
58:39
it
58:39
is,
58:39
but
58:39
I
58:40
don't
58:40
think
58:40
it
58:40
is.
58:42
I
58:42
actually
58:42
think
58:42
that
58:43
informs
58:43
one's
58:44
life
58:45
more
58:45
deeply
58:46
because
58:46
it's
58:46
like,
58:47
look,
58:47
this
58:48
is
58:48
all
58:48
we
58:48
have.
58:49
So
58:50
what
58:50
is
58:50
worthy
58:50
of
58:50
your
58:51
finitude?
58:51
And
58:52
that
58:52
doesn't
58:52
make,
58:52
that's
58:53
actually
58:54
so,
58:54
like
58:54
on
58:54
days
58:55
when
58:55
I
58:55
still
58:55
feel
58:55
like
58:56
saying
58:56
I'm
58:56
a
58:56
Christian,
58:57
having
58:58
an,
58:58
not
58:58
having
58:58
an
58:59
afterlife,
59:00
not
59:00
having
59:00
an
59:00
afterlife
59:01
makes
59:01
me
59:01
want
59:02
to
59:02
be
59:02
a
59:02
better
59:02
Christian
59:03
because
59:03
the
59:04
only
59:04
opportunity,
59:05
the
59:05
only
59:05
chance
59:05
that
59:06
I
59:06
have
59:06
to
59:06
build
59:07
the
59:07
kingdom
59:07
of
59:07
God
59:07
on
59:08
earth
59:08
as
59:08
in
59:08
heaven
59:09
is,
59:09
is
59:09
right
59:09
now.
59:10
And
59:10
I
59:10
only,
59:11
I
59:11
get
59:11
one
59:11
shot.
59:12
That's
59:12
it.
59:12
What
59:13
impact
59:13
am
59:13
I
59:13
going
59:14
to
59:14
have?
59:14
In
59:14
what
59:14
ways
59:15
can
59:15
I
59:15
love
59:15
people?
59:15
In
59:16
what
59:16
ways,
59:16
you
59:17
know,
59:17
can
59:17
I
59:17
improve
59:19
flourishing
59:20
not
59:20
just
59:20
amongst
59:20
human,
59:21
but
59:21
again,
59:21
you
59:22
know,
59:22
amongst
59:22
all
59:23
life,
59:23
all
59:23
creation.
59:25
So
59:25
like,
59:26
when
59:26
I,
59:26
when
59:26
I
59:27
get
59:27
existential
59:28
and,
59:28
and
59:29
contemplate
59:29
my
59:29
finitude,
59:30
I
59:31
actually
59:31
think
59:31
the
59:31
atheists
59:32
have
59:32
a
59:32
good
59:32
point
59:33
here.
59:34
And
59:34
I'm
59:34
kind
59:34
of
59:34
comfortable
59:35
with
59:35
contemplating
59:36
my
59:36
life
59:36
in
59:36
light
59:37
of
59:37
the
59:37
fact
59:37
that
59:37
when
59:37
I
59:37
die,
59:38
I'm
59:38
dead.
59:39
And
59:39
also,
59:39
like,
59:40
that's
59:40
how
59:40
the
59:41
entire
59:41
Hebrew
59:42
Bible
59:42
talks
59:42
about
59:43
death
59:43
anyway,
59:44
when
59:44
you
59:44
die,
59:45
you're
59:45
dead.
59:45
And
59:46
that's
59:46
why
59:46
they
59:46
were
59:46
all
59:46
like
59:47
arguing
59:47
like,
59:47
oh,
59:48
the
59:48
resurrection
59:48
is
59:49
a
59:49
thing,
59:49
maybe
59:49
it's
59:49
not.
59:50
And
59:50
that's
59:50
why
59:51
the
59:51
Jesus
59:51
bill
59:51
was
59:51
controversial
59:52
and
59:52
why
59:52
they're
59:52
still
59:53
Jewish
59:53
people.
59:54
That's
59:54
grossly
59:55
oversimplified.
59:57
Yeah,
59:57
but
59:58
so
59:58
anyway,
59:59
yeah,
59:59
sorry,
1:00:00
I.
1:00:00
Yeah,
1:00:01
I.
1:00:01
I
1:00:01
struggle
1:00:02
with
1:00:03
whether
1:00:03
or
1:00:03
not
1:00:03
heaven
1:00:04
and
1:00:04
hell
1:00:04
are
1:00:05
symbolic
1:00:05
language
1:00:06
or
1:00:06
not.
1:00:06
I
1:00:06
struggle
1:00:07
with
1:00:07
a
1:00:07
lot
1:00:07
of
1:00:07
this
1:00:07
still.
1:00:09
And
1:00:09
to
1:00:09
go
1:00:09
back
1:00:09
to
1:00:10
the
1:00:10
comic
1:00:10
and
1:00:10
also
1:00:11
tie
1:00:11
in
1:00:12
my
1:00:12
problems
1:00:12
with
1:00:12
some
1:00:13
of
1:00:13
Christian
1:00:13
traditions,
1:00:14
is
1:00:14
this
1:00:15
death
1:00:15
avoidance
1:00:16
or
1:00:16
death
1:00:16
ignorance
1:00:17
maybe
1:00:17
is
1:00:18
even
1:00:18
a
1:00:18
better
1:00:18
way.
1:00:19
A
1:00:19
lot
1:00:19
of
1:00:20
pop
1:00:20
culture,
1:00:21
secular
1:00:21
culture,
1:00:22
outside
1:00:22
of
1:00:22
Christianity,
1:00:22
whatever,
1:00:23
it's
1:00:23
like
1:00:23
we're
1:00:24
just
1:00:24
going
1:00:24
to
1:00:24
ignore
1:00:24
the
1:00:25
fact
1:00:25
that
1:00:25
death
1:00:25
exists.
1:00:25
We're
1:00:25
going
1:00:26
to
1:00:26
put
1:00:26
old
1:00:26
people
1:00:26
in
1:00:27
homes,
1:00:27
like
1:00:27
all
1:00:27
the
1:00:27
stuff
1:00:27
that
1:00:27
you
1:00:28
were
1:00:28
talking
1:00:28
about,
1:00:28
the
1:00:28
beginning
1:00:28
of
1:00:28
this,
1:00:28
right?
1:00:28
And
1:00:29
it's
1:00:29
like,
1:00:29
yeah,
1:00:29
that's
1:00:29
a
1:00:29
whole
1:00:30
thing.
1:00:30
And
1:00:30
then
1:00:31
a
1:00:31
lot
1:00:31
of
1:00:31
the
1:00:31
Christian
1:00:32
circles
1:00:32
that
1:00:32
I
1:00:32
grew
1:00:32
up
1:00:32
in,
1:00:32
it's
1:00:33
like,
1:00:33
oh,
1:00:33
there's
1:00:33
a
1:00:33
whole
1:00:34
afterlife.
1:00:34
So
1:00:34
this
1:00:34
death
1:00:35
doesn't
1:00:35
matter.
1:00:35
You're
1:00:35
only
1:00:36
living
1:00:36
this
1:00:36
life
1:00:36
so
1:00:37
that
1:00:37
you
1:00:37
can
1:00:37
get
1:00:37
to
1:00:37
the
1:00:37
real
1:00:37
life.
1:00:38
Because
1:00:38
like,
1:00:38
infinity,
1:00:39
infinity
1:00:40
is
1:00:40
so
1:00:40
much
1:00:40
more
1:00:40
than
1:00:41
this
1:00:41
one.
1:00:41
This
1:00:41
one
1:00:41
doesn't
1:00:41
really
1:00:41
matter.
1:00:42
And
1:00:42
it's
1:00:43
like
1:00:43
the
1:00:43
exact
1:00:43
opposite
1:00:43
of
1:00:44
existentialism.
1:00:44
And
1:00:46
I
1:00:46
don't
1:00:46
know
1:00:46
how
1:00:46
many
1:00:46
of
1:00:46
the
1:00:47
groups
1:00:47
I
1:00:47
grew
1:00:47
up
1:00:47
in
1:00:47
did
1:00:48
this,
1:00:48
but
1:00:48
I
1:00:48
know
1:00:48
a
1:00:48
lot
1:00:48
of
1:00:48
groups
1:00:49
do
1:00:49
this
1:00:49
where,
1:00:49
like,
1:00:49
they
1:00:49
use
1:00:50
that
1:00:50
to
1:00:50
justify
1:00:51
being
1:00:51
really
1:00:51
shitty
1:00:52
in
1:00:52
this
1:00:52
life
1:00:52
because
1:00:52
it
1:00:53
really
1:00:53
doesn't
1:00:53
matter
1:00:53
as
1:00:53
long
1:00:53
as
1:00:54
we
1:00:54
get
1:00:54
people
1:00:54
saved.
1:00:55
It's
1:00:55
all
1:00:55
about
1:00:55
the
1:00:55
end
1:00:56
goal.
1:00:57
You
1:00:57
know,
1:00:57
they
1:00:58
do
1:00:58
the
1:00:58
utilitarian
1:00:59
stuff
1:00:59
that
1:00:59
I
1:00:59
think's
1:00:59
fucking
1:01:00
stupid.
1:01:00
That's
1:01:01
a
1:01:01
whole
1:01:01
rant
1:01:01
for
1:01:01
another
1:01:01
day.
1:01:02
And
1:01:02
it's
1:01:02
like,
1:01:03
oh,
1:01:03
well,
1:01:03
it's
1:01:03
all
1:01:03
about
1:01:03
eternity,
1:01:04
so
1:01:04
we're
1:01:04
just
1:01:04
going
1:01:04
to
1:01:04
keep
1:01:05
people
1:01:05
there.
1:01:05
And
1:01:06
heaven,
1:01:06
hell,
1:01:07
that's
1:01:07
what
1:01:07
matters.
1:01:08
This
1:01:08
life,
1:01:08
who
1:01:09
cares?
1:01:09
And
1:01:10
to
1:01:10
me
1:01:10
it's
1:01:10
infuriate
1:01:11
because,
1:01:11
like,
1:01:11
even
1:01:11
if
1:01:11
heaven
1:01:12
and
1:01:12
hell
1:01:12
exist,
1:01:12
I
1:01:13
cannot
1:01:13
believe
1:01:13
in
1:01:14
a
1:01:14
God
1:01:14
who
1:01:14
says
1:01:14
he
1:01:14
is
1:01:15
love
1:01:15
that
1:01:16
wants
1:01:16
us
1:01:16
to
1:01:16
behave
1:01:16
in
1:01:17
a
1:01:17
way
1:01:17
that
1:01:17
only
1:01:18
life
1:01:18
after
1:01:18
death
1:01:19
matters.
1:01:19
Because
1:01:19
then
1:01:19
it's
1:01:20
like,
1:01:20
why
1:01:20
even
1:01:20
have
1:01:20
this
1:01:21
life?
1:01:21
Like,
1:01:21
what
1:01:21
is
1:01:21
the
1:01:21
point
1:01:21
of
1:01:22
this
1:01:22
life
1:01:22
if
1:01:22
only
1:01:23
the
1:01:23
life
1:01:23
after
1:01:23
I
1:01:23
die
1:01:24
matters?
1:01:24
No
1:01:25
point.
1:01:25
So
1:01:25
it's
1:01:26
still
1:01:26
ignorance
1:01:26
or
1:01:27
avoidance
1:01:27
of
1:01:28
death.
1:01:28
Like
1:01:28
they're
1:01:28
still
1:01:28
doing
1:01:29
that.
1:01:30
And
1:01:30
to
1:01:30
me,
1:01:30
that's
1:01:31
why
1:01:31
I
1:01:31
love
1:01:31
the
1:01:31
faith
1:01:31
traditions
1:01:32
that
1:01:32
still
1:01:32
take
1:01:32
the
1:01:33
time
1:01:33
to
1:01:33
celebrate
1:01:33
All
1:01:33
Saints
1:01:34
Day,
1:01:34
All
1:01:34
Souls
1:01:34
Day,
1:01:34
and
1:01:35
like,
1:01:35
hey,
1:01:35
let's
1:01:35
acknowledge
1:01:36
the
1:01:36
fact
1:01:36
that
1:01:36
death
1:01:36
is
1:01:36
real
1:01:37
and
1:01:37
it's
1:01:37
important
1:01:37
and
1:01:38
it
1:01:38
matters
1:01:38
to
1:01:38
us.
1:01:40
And
1:01:40
I
1:01:40
even
1:01:41
really
1:01:41
appreciate
1:01:42
something
1:01:42
that
1:01:42
J.
1:01:43
Patty
1:01:43
turned
1:01:43
me
1:01:43
onto
1:01:44
earlier
1:01:44
this
1:01:44
year
1:01:44
that
1:01:44
I've
1:01:44
been
1:01:45
studying
1:01:45
a
1:01:45
little
1:01:45
bit
1:01:45
more.
1:01:46
This
1:01:46
idea
1:01:46
of
1:01:46
the
1:01:47
divine
1:01:47
consciousness
1:01:48
of
1:01:48
like,
1:01:48
hey,
1:01:48
maybe
1:01:49
what
1:01:49
we
1:01:49
mean
1:01:49
by
1:01:49
Heaven
1:01:50
is
1:01:50
really
1:01:50
like
1:01:51
my
1:01:51
grandparents.
1:01:51
They
1:01:51
still
1:01:52
live
1:01:52
on
1:01:52
in
1:01:52
me
1:01:54
because
1:01:54
I
1:01:54
recall
1:01:55
one
1:01:55
of
1:01:55
the
1:01:55
biggest
1:01:55
things
1:01:56
to
1:01:56
me,
1:01:56
and
1:01:56
I
1:01:56
talk
1:01:56
about
1:01:57
this.
1:01:57
A
1:01:57
lot,
1:01:57
is
1:01:57
like,
1:01:57
the
1:01:58
movie
1:01:58
Coco
1:01:59
Joshua.
1:01:59
I
1:01:59
love
1:02:00
them.
1:02:01
But
1:02:01
no,
1:02:01
my.
1:02:03
My
1:02:03
papa
1:02:04
was
1:02:04
telling
1:02:04
me
1:02:05
it's
1:02:05
so
1:02:05
funny
1:02:05
because,
1:02:05
like,
1:02:06
he's
1:02:06
like,
1:02:06
you
1:02:06
know,
1:02:06
my
1:02:07
dad
1:02:07
always
1:02:07
said,
1:02:08
I
1:02:08
love
1:02:08
you,
1:02:08
and
1:02:09
ain't
1:02:09
nothing
1:02:09
you
1:02:09
can
1:02:09
do
1:02:09
about
1:02:09
it.
1:02:10
And
1:02:10
I
1:02:10
remember
1:02:10
always
1:02:10
saying,
1:02:11
like,
1:02:11
papa,
1:02:11
you've
1:02:12
always
1:02:12
said
1:02:12
that
1:02:12
that's
1:02:13
not
1:02:13
something
1:02:13
your
1:02:13
dad
1:02:13
said.
1:02:13
It's
1:02:14
something
1:02:14
you
1:02:14
say.
1:02:14
And
1:02:15
it's
1:02:15
funny
1:02:15
because,
1:02:15
like,
1:02:15
I
1:02:16
say
1:02:16
it
1:02:16
now,
1:02:17
and
1:02:17
I'm
1:02:17
like,
1:02:17
man,
1:02:18
what's
1:02:18
funny
1:02:18
is,
1:02:19
in
1:02:19
reality,
1:02:19
I've
1:02:20
never
1:02:20
met
1:02:20
my
1:02:20
papa's
1:02:20
dad,
1:02:21
but
1:02:21
in
1:02:22
a
1:02:22
way,
1:02:22
he
1:02:22
is
1:02:22
living
1:02:23
on
1:02:23
in
1:02:23
me
1:02:24
because
1:02:24
I'm
1:02:24
still
1:02:24
using
1:02:25
this
1:02:25
phrase
1:02:25
that
1:02:26
I
1:02:26
identify.
1:02:26
Like,
1:02:27
that
1:02:27
is
1:02:27
who
1:02:27
my
1:02:28
Popeye
1:02:28
is.
1:02:28
Like,
1:02:28
I
1:02:28
say
1:02:29
it
1:02:29
because
1:02:29
that
1:02:29
is
1:02:29
who
1:02:29
he
1:02:30
is,
1:02:30
and
1:02:30
I
1:02:31
keep
1:02:31
him
1:02:31
alive
1:02:31
by
1:02:31
keeping
1:02:32
that
1:02:32
spirit
1:02:32
alive.
1:02:33
Yeah.
1:02:33
And
1:02:33
it's
1:02:33
funny
1:02:33
because
1:02:34
I
1:02:34
think
1:02:34
that
1:02:34
might
1:02:35
be
1:02:35
why
1:02:35
he
1:02:35
was
1:02:35
doing
1:02:35
it
1:02:35
with
1:02:36
his
1:02:36
dad,
1:02:36
even
1:02:36
though
1:02:36
he
1:02:36
might
1:02:37
not
1:02:37
use
1:02:37
the
1:02:37
same
1:02:37
language.
1:02:38
And
1:02:39
that
1:02:39
to
1:02:39
me,
1:02:39
like,
1:02:39
that
1:02:39
idea
1:02:40
of,
1:02:40
like,
1:02:40
divine
1:02:40
consciousness,
1:02:40
of,
1:02:41
like,
1:02:41
that
1:02:41
part
1:02:41
of
1:02:41
my
1:02:41
grandparents
1:02:42
still
1:02:42
live
1:02:42
in
1:02:43
me,
1:02:43
some
1:02:43
part
1:02:43
of
1:02:43
my
1:02:43
granny,
1:02:44
where
1:02:44
I
1:02:45
want
1:02:45
to
1:02:45
look
1:02:45
at
1:02:45
the
1:02:45
hummingbirds,
1:02:46
and
1:02:46
I'm
1:02:46
going
1:02:46
to
1:02:46
take
1:02:46
care
1:02:46
of
1:02:47
them
1:02:47
and
1:02:47
create
1:02:47
little
1:02:47
pollinator
1:02:48
garlands.
1:02:48
And
1:02:48
all
1:02:48
this
1:02:49
stuff
1:02:49
is
1:02:49
like.
1:02:50
Like
1:02:50
some
1:02:50
part
1:02:51
of
1:02:51
them
1:02:51
continue
1:02:51
to
1:02:52
live
1:02:52
on
1:02:52
it.
1:02:52
And
1:02:52
like,
1:02:53
I
1:02:53
love
1:02:53
the
1:02:53
idea
1:02:53
of
1:02:53
heaven,
1:02:54
and
1:02:54
maybe
1:02:54
I'll
1:02:54
actually
1:02:55
see
1:02:55
them
1:02:55
again.
1:02:56
But
1:02:56
I
1:02:56
want
1:02:56
to
1:02:57
live
1:02:57
as
1:02:57
though
1:02:58
maybe
1:02:59
only
1:02:59
the
1:02:59
divine
1:02:59
consciousness
1:03:00
part
1:03:00
is
1:03:01
what's
1:03:01
true.
1:03:01
And
1:03:01
if
1:03:01
the
1:03:01
other
1:03:02
part's
1:03:02
true,
1:03:02
too,
1:03:03
cool.
1:03:04
But
1:03:04
I
1:03:04
kind
1:03:04
of
1:03:04
want
1:03:04
to
1:03:04
live
1:03:04
as
1:03:05
if
1:03:05
only
1:03:05
that
1:03:05
part's
1:03:06
true.
1:03:06
Yeah,
1:03:06
yeah.
1:03:07
No,
1:03:07
I
1:03:07
feel
1:03:08
you.
1:03:08
And
1:03:08
for,
1:03:08
like.
1:03:08
Excuse
1:03:09
me,
1:03:09
for
1:03:09
listeners,
1:03:09
I'll
1:03:10
figure
1:03:10
in
1:03:10
briefly
1:03:10
on
1:03:10
what
1:03:10
Josh
1:03:11
was.
1:03:11
Is
1:03:11
pointing
1:03:12
at.
1:03:13
He's
1:03:14
doing
1:03:14
process
1:03:14
theology.
1:03:15
So.
1:03:16
Process
1:03:16
theology.
1:03:19
So
1:03:19
essentially,
1:03:20
the.
1:03:20
We're
1:03:20
talking
1:03:21
about
1:03:21
divine
1:03:21
consciousness
1:03:22
within
1:03:22
process
1:03:22
thoughts.
1:03:23
Um,
1:03:24
at
1:03:24
the
1:03:24
very
1:03:24
least,
1:03:25
you
1:03:25
have
1:03:25
what's
1:03:25
called
1:03:25
objective
1:03:26
immortality,
1:03:27
which
1:03:27
means
1:03:28
that
1:03:28
everything
1:03:29
that
1:03:29
has
1:03:29
ever
1:03:30
existed
1:03:30
lives
1:03:30
objectively
1:03:31
within
1:03:32
the
1:03:32
divine
1:03:32
memory
1:03:33
forever.
1:03:34
And
1:03:34
part
1:03:35
of
1:03:35
how
1:03:35
process
1:03:36
works
1:03:36
is
1:03:37
in
1:03:37
each
1:03:37
moment
1:03:38
of
1:03:38
becoming,
1:03:38
the
1:03:39
entirety
1:03:39
of
1:03:40
the
1:03:40
past
1:03:41
meets
1:03:41
the
1:03:41
possibility
1:03:42
of
1:03:42
the
1:03:42
future.
1:03:43
Those
1:03:43
two
1:03:44
things
1:03:44
kiss,
1:03:45
and
1:03:45
then
1:03:45
there
1:03:46
is
1:03:46
a
1:03:46
concrescence.
1:03:47
A
1:03:47
possibility
1:03:48
becomes
1:03:49
actualized,
1:03:51
and
1:03:51
now
1:03:51
it
1:03:52
exists.
1:03:52
And
1:03:52
then
1:03:52
that
1:03:53
now
1:03:53
exists
1:03:53
fully
1:03:54
within
1:03:54
the
1:03:54
divine
1:03:54
memory
1:03:55
forever
1:03:55
and
1:03:56
is
1:03:56
brought
1:03:56
into
1:03:56
the
1:03:57
next
1:03:57
moment
1:03:57
of
1:03:57
becoming.
1:03:57
And
1:03:58
this
1:03:58
goes
1:03:58
on
1:03:58
on
1:03:58
and
1:03:59
on
1:03:59
and
1:03:59
on
1:03:59
and
1:03:59
on.
1:03:59
And
1:04:00
so
1:04:00
as
1:04:00
people
1:04:00
as
1:04:01
like,
1:04:01
well,
1:04:01
basically
1:04:02
everything
1:04:03
we.
1:04:03
Whitehead's
1:04:04
Word
1:04:04
is
1:04:04
prehend.
1:04:05
We
1:04:06
are
1:04:06
able
1:04:06
to
1:04:06
prehend
1:04:07
the
1:04:07
past
1:04:08
in
1:04:08
its
1:04:08
entirety,
1:04:09
even
1:04:09
if
1:04:09
it's
1:04:09
subconsciously.
1:04:11
And
1:04:11
so
1:04:11
our
1:04:11
loved
1:04:12
ones
1:04:12
that
1:04:12
exist
1:04:13
within
1:04:13
the
1:04:13
Divine
1:04:14
memory,
1:04:14
we
1:04:15
prehend
1:04:16
them
1:04:16
in
1:04:16
each
1:04:16
moment
1:04:17
of
1:04:17
our
1:04:17
becoming.
1:04:18
So
1:04:18
they
1:04:18
are
1:04:19
very
1:04:19
much
1:04:19
still
1:04:20
present
1:04:20
to
1:04:21
us
1:04:21
and
1:04:22
impact
1:04:23
the
1:04:23
Divine.
1:04:23
Impact
1:04:24
the
1:04:24
divine's
1:04:25
what
1:04:25
the
1:04:25
divine
1:04:26
does.
1:04:27
Impact
1:04:27
us
1:04:27
in
1:04:27
each
1:04:28
moment
1:04:28
of
1:04:28
our
1:04:28
becoming.
1:04:29
And
1:04:29
so,
1:04:29
like,
1:04:30
that's
1:04:30
really
1:04:30
cool.
1:04:31
And,
1:04:31
like,
1:04:31
I'm
1:04:31
comfortable
1:04:32
if
1:04:32
that's
1:04:32
the
1:04:33
best
1:04:33
we
1:04:33
get.
1:04:34
I'm
1:04:34
cool
1:04:34
with
1:04:35
that.
1:04:35
I
1:04:35
hope
1:04:35
there's
1:04:35
something
1:04:36
more.
1:04:36
But,
1:04:37
yeah,
1:04:37
that's.
1:04:37
That's
1:04:38
what
1:04:38
Josh
1:04:38
was
1:04:38
pointing
1:04:39
at.
1:04:39
Yeah.
1:04:40
Yeah,
1:04:40
man.
1:04:40
I
1:04:41
just.
1:04:41
I'm
1:04:41
glad
1:04:42
I
1:04:42
have
1:04:42
a
1:04:42
smart
1:04:42
person
1:04:42
here
1:04:43
to
1:04:43
like.
1:04:43
Like,
1:04:43
say
1:04:43
the
1:04:44
things
1:04:44
that
1:04:44
I
1:04:44
just
1:04:44
learned.
1:04:45
Yeah,
1:04:47
I.
1:04:48
You
1:04:48
said
1:04:49
it
1:04:49
nicely.
1:04:49
I
1:04:49
just
1:04:50
used
1:04:50
big
1:04:50
words
1:04:51
that
1:04:51
nobody
1:04:52
knows
1:04:52
what
1:04:52
they
1:04:52
mean.
1:04:53
You
1:04:53
said
1:04:54
in
1:04:54
a
1:04:54
way
1:04:54
that's
1:04:54
like,
1:04:54
oh,
1:04:54
wait
1:04:54
a
1:04:55
minute.
1:04:55
What
1:04:55
Josh
1:04:55
said
1:04:55
was
1:04:55
smart.
1:04:56
He
1:04:56
just
1:04:56
didn't
1:04:56
know
1:04:56
that
1:04:56
he
1:04:56
was
1:04:57
being
1:04:57
smart.
1:04:57
I
1:04:57
feel
1:04:58
like
1:04:58
I
1:04:58
do
1:04:58
that
1:04:58
a
1:04:58
lot.
1:04:58
Like,
1:04:58
I'm
1:04:59
accidentally
1:04:59
smart
1:04:59
sometimes.
1:05:00
You
1:05:00
did
1:05:01
a
1:05:01
good
1:05:01
job.
1:05:02
But
1:05:02
one
1:05:03
of
1:05:03
the
1:05:03
things,
1:05:03
too.
1:05:04
This
1:05:04
is,
1:05:04
like,
1:05:04
the
1:05:04
last
1:05:04
thing
1:05:04
I
1:05:05
want
1:05:05
to
1:05:05
talk
1:05:05
about.
1:05:05
When
1:05:05
the
1:05:05
guy
1:05:05
was
1:05:05
falling,
1:05:06
he
1:05:06
does
1:05:06
ask,
1:05:07
was
1:05:07
I
1:05:07
a
1:05:07
bad
1:05:08
person
1:05:08
or
1:05:08
was
1:05:08
I
1:05:08
a
1:05:08
good
1:05:08
person?
1:05:09
Something
1:05:09
like
1:05:09
that.
1:05:10
And
1:05:10
I
1:05:10
find
1:05:10
that
1:05:11
so
1:05:11
interesting.
1:05:12
None
1:05:12
of
1:05:12
the
1:05:12
people
1:05:12
in
1:05:13
the
1:05:13
workplace
1:05:13
who
1:05:13
are
1:05:13
so
1:05:14
consumed
1:05:14
with
1:05:14
work
1:05:14
that
1:05:14
they're
1:05:15
dying
1:05:15
and
1:05:15
not
1:05:15
noticing
1:05:16
bother
1:05:17
to
1:05:17
think,
1:05:17
am
1:05:17
I
1:05:17
being
1:05:18
a
1:05:18
good
1:05:18
or
1:05:18
bad
1:05:18
person?
1:05:19
Veronica,
1:05:19
who's
1:05:20
just
1:05:20
trying
1:05:20
to
1:05:20
survive,
1:05:21
which
1:05:21
I
1:05:21
think
1:05:21
is
1:05:21
the
1:05:21
correct
1:05:22
thing
1:05:22
here,
1:05:22
doesn't
1:05:23
have
1:05:23
time
1:05:24
to
1:05:24
think,
1:05:24
am
1:05:25
I
1:05:25
being
1:05:25
a
1:05:25
good
1:05:25
or
1:05:25
bad
1:05:25
person?
1:05:26
But
1:05:26
the
1:05:26
person
1:05:26
who's
1:05:27
just
1:05:27
dying,
1:05:28
like,
1:05:28
I
1:05:28
know
1:05:28
I'm
1:05:29
about
1:05:29
to
1:05:29
die,
1:05:29
he's
1:05:30
the
1:05:30
one
1:05:30
that
1:05:30
has
1:05:30
the
1:05:30
time
1:05:30
to
1:05:31
think
1:05:31
about
1:05:31
this,
1:05:31
like,
1:05:32
existential
1:05:32
question
1:05:33
of,
1:05:33
like,
1:05:33
am
1:05:33
I
1:05:33
actually
1:05:34
a
1:05:34
good
1:05:34
person?
1:05:35
And
1:05:35
I,
1:05:35
like,
1:05:35
I
1:05:36
found
1:05:36
that
1:05:36
bit
1:05:36
that
1:05:37
they
1:05:37
included
1:05:37
that
1:05:37
really
1:05:38
interesting.
1:05:39
Again,
1:05:40
I
1:05:40
do
1:05:40
not
1:05:41
promote
1:05:41
suicide
1:05:42
again.
1:05:43
But
1:05:44
when
1:05:44
I
1:05:44
think
1:05:45
about
1:05:45
this
1:05:45
again,
1:05:45
and
1:05:45
that
1:05:45
divine
1:05:46
consciousness
1:05:46
kind
1:05:46
of
1:05:46
thing
1:05:46
that
1:05:47
we
1:05:47
already
1:05:47
brought
1:05:47
up,
1:05:47
my
1:05:48
friend
1:05:48
I
1:05:48
mentioned
1:05:48
earlier,
1:05:49
when
1:05:49
his
1:05:49
dad
1:05:49
died,
1:05:49
the
1:05:50
fact
1:05:50
that
1:05:50
he
1:05:50
killed
1:05:51
himself
1:05:51
will
1:05:52
forever
1:05:52
be
1:05:52
a
1:05:52
part
1:05:53
of
1:05:53
his
1:05:53
family
1:05:54
story.
1:05:54
But
1:05:55
that's
1:05:55
not
1:05:55
the
1:05:55
only
1:05:56
thing.
1:05:56
So
1:05:57
is
1:05:57
the
1:05:57
fact
1:05:57
that
1:05:57
he
1:05:57
carried
1:05:58
the
1:05:58
faith.
1:05:58
So
1:05:58
was
1:05:58
the
1:05:58
fact
1:05:58
that
1:05:59
he
1:05:59
worked
1:05:59
with
1:05:59
Billy
1:05:59
Graham.
1:05:59
So
1:06:00
it's
1:06:00
like,
1:06:00
all
1:06:00
these
1:06:00
other
1:06:00
things
1:06:00
about
1:06:01
him
1:06:01
are
1:06:01
still
1:06:01
true.
1:06:02
And
1:06:02
I
1:06:02
think
1:06:02
about
1:06:02
being
1:06:03
a
1:06:03
loser
1:06:03
when
1:06:04
I
1:06:04
read
1:06:04
this
1:06:04
comic
1:06:04
and
1:06:04
I
1:06:05
stop
1:06:05
and
1:06:05
think
1:06:05
afterwards,
1:06:05
I'm
1:06:05
like,
1:06:06
what
1:06:06
does
1:06:06
happen
1:06:06
to
1:06:06
his
1:06:07
wife
1:06:07
after
1:06:07
this?
1:06:07
Does
1:06:07
he
1:06:07
ever
1:06:08
found.
1:06:08
Does
1:06:08
she
1:06:08
ever
1:06:08
find
1:06:08
out
1:06:08
that
1:06:09
he
1:06:09
was
1:06:09
cheating?
1:06:09
What
1:06:09
happened
1:06:09
to
1:06:10
the
1:06:10
person
1:06:10
that
1:06:10
he
1:06:10
was
1:06:10
cheating
1:06:10
with?
1:06:11
Do
1:06:11
they
1:06:11
only
1:06:11
keep
1:06:12
the
1:06:12
good
1:06:12
things
1:06:12
about
1:06:12
him?
1:06:13
How
1:06:13
does
1:06:13
his
1:06:13
suicide
1:06:14
continue
1:06:14
to
1:06:15
affect
1:06:15
their
1:06:15
story?
1:06:15
How
1:06:16
does
1:06:16
who
1:06:16
he
1:06:16
was,
1:06:16
whether
1:06:17
he
1:06:17
was
1:06:17
good
1:06:17
or
1:06:17
bad
1:06:17
person,
1:06:18
how
1:06:18
does
1:06:18
it
1:06:18
continue
1:06:18
to
1:06:19
affect
1:06:19
these
1:06:19
people's
1:06:19
story?
1:06:21
It's
1:06:21
not
1:06:21
going
1:06:21
to
1:06:21
affect
1:06:21
his
1:06:22
work
1:06:22
life
1:06:22
because
1:06:22
it
1:06:22
appears
1:06:23
that
1:06:23
that
1:06:23
work
1:06:23
has
1:06:24
been
1:06:24
destroyed.
1:06:25
But,
1:06:25
you
1:06:25
know,
1:06:26
I
1:06:27
still
1:06:27
think
1:06:27
these
1:06:27
are
1:06:27
important
1:06:27
questions
1:06:28
to
1:06:28
answer
1:06:28
because
1:06:28
it's
1:06:29
not
1:06:29
just
1:06:29
the
1:06:29
fact
1:06:30
that
1:06:30
suicide
1:06:30
occurred,
1:06:31
but
1:06:31
the
1:06:31
person's
1:06:32
life
1:06:32
still
1:06:32
continues
1:06:33
to
1:06:33
affect
1:06:33
these
1:06:33
people.
1:06:34
Even
1:06:34
though
1:06:35
he
1:06:35
chose
1:06:35
to
1:06:35
end
1:06:36
his
1:06:36
part
1:06:36
of
1:06:36
the
1:06:36
story,
1:06:37
his
1:06:37
story
1:06:37
still
1:06:38
continues
1:06:38
with
1:06:38
other
1:06:38
people.
1:06:39
Yeah,
1:06:39
yeah,
1:06:40
yeah.
1:06:40
And
1:06:40
I
1:06:40
think
1:06:41
the
1:06:41
question
1:06:41
of
1:06:41
good
1:06:42
person,
1:06:42
bad
1:06:42
person
1:06:42
is
1:06:43
interesting
1:06:43
to
1:06:43
me
1:06:43
because
1:06:44
I
1:06:44
think,
1:06:45
I
1:06:45
think
1:06:46
it's
1:06:46
too
1:06:46
binary.
1:06:48
I
1:06:48
don't
1:06:48
know
1:06:48
who
1:06:49
I'm
1:06:49
quoting
1:06:49
here,
1:06:50
but
1:06:50
this
1:06:50
is
1:06:50
not
1:06:50
a
1:06:50
Josh
1:06:51
Patterson
1:06:51
thought.
1:06:51
I'm
1:06:52
stealing
1:06:52
this.
1:06:53
The
1:06:53
line
1:06:54
of
1:06:54
good
1:06:54
and
1:06:54
evil
1:06:55
doesn't
1:06:55
run
1:06:56
between
1:06:56
us
1:06:56
and
1:06:57
them,
1:06:58
but
1:06:58
it
1:06:58
runs
1:06:58
down
1:06:58
the
1:06:58
middle
1:06:59
of
1:06:59
each
1:06:59
and
1:06:59
every
1:06:59
single
1:07:00
one
1:07:00
of
1:07:00
us.
1:07:01
I
1:07:01
think
1:07:02
people
1:07:02
are
1:07:02
complex.
1:07:03
People
1:07:04
have
1:07:04
parts,
1:07:05
like,
1:07:06
for
1:07:06
risk
1:07:06
of
1:07:07
getting
1:07:08
canceled
1:07:08
for
1:07:08
saying
1:07:09
this.
1:07:09
Like,
1:07:10
there
1:07:10
were
1:07:10
parts
1:07:10
of
1:07:11
Hitler
1:07:11
that
1:07:12
were
1:07:12
good
1:07:13
in
1:07:13
that.
1:07:13
Like,
1:07:13
there
1:07:14
had
1:07:14
to
1:07:14
be
1:07:14
people
1:07:15
in
1:07:15
his
1:07:15
life
1:07:15
that
1:07:15
he
1:07:16
loved,
1:07:16
that
1:07:17
he,
1:07:17
he
1:07:17
found
1:07:17
joy
1:07:18
in
1:07:18
doing
1:07:18
things.
1:07:18
Like,
1:07:19
he
1:07:19
was
1:07:19
an
1:07:19
artist.
1:07:20
Now,
1:07:20
of
1:07:21
course,
1:07:21
that
1:07:21
doesn't
1:07:22
mean
1:07:22
what
1:07:22
Hitler
1:07:23
did
1:07:23
is
1:07:24
good.
1:07:24
Now,
1:07:25
like,
1:07:25
what
1:07:25
Hitler
1:07:25
did
1:07:26
was
1:07:26
atrocious.
1:07:27
Hitler
1:07:27
was
1:07:28
like
1:07:28
all
1:07:28
of
1:07:28
that.
1:07:29
Evil,
1:07:31
bad,
1:07:32
all
1:07:32
of
1:07:32
it.
1:07:32
But,
1:07:33
like,
1:07:34
he
1:07:35
couldn't
1:07:36
have
1:07:36
been
1:07:36
all
1:07:37
evil,
1:07:38
all
1:07:38
bad.
1:07:40
And
1:07:40
again,
1:07:40
that's
1:07:41
like,
1:07:41
you
1:07:41
know,
1:07:42
low
1:07:42
hanging
1:07:42
fruit,
1:07:43
the
1:07:43
first
1:07:43
example
1:07:43
that
1:07:44
came
1:07:44
to
1:07:44
mind.
1:07:44
So
1:07:44
forgive
1:07:45
me,
1:07:46
but
1:07:46
even,
1:07:46
like,
1:07:46
if
1:07:46
I
1:07:47
think
1:07:47
about
1:07:47
myself,
1:07:47
like,
1:07:47
I
1:07:48
like
1:07:48
to
1:07:48
think
1:07:48
that
1:07:48
I'm
1:07:48
a
1:07:48
good
1:07:49
person,
1:07:49
but
1:07:49
I
1:07:50
also
1:07:50
know
1:07:50
my
1:07:50
own
1:07:50
thoughts.
1:07:51
I
1:07:51
know
1:07:51
the,
1:07:52
that
1:07:52
I
1:07:52
don't
1:07:52
say
1:07:52
out
1:07:53
loud.
1:07:54
Like,
1:07:55
I
1:07:55
know
1:07:55
that
1:07:55
the
1:07:56
thoughts
1:07:56
that
1:07:56
I
1:07:56
have
1:07:56
that
1:07:57
I
1:07:57
choose
1:07:57
not
1:07:57
to
1:07:57
act
1:07:58
on
1:07:58
and
1:07:59
like,
1:07:59
I.
1:07:59
Some
1:08:00
of
1:08:00
those
1:08:00
things
1:08:00
are
1:08:01
bad.
1:08:01
But
1:08:01
like,
1:08:02
am
1:08:03
I
1:08:03
a
1:08:03
good
1:08:03
person
1:08:03
or
1:08:04
a
1:08:04
bad
1:08:04
person?
1:08:04
Like,
1:08:04
I
1:08:04
don't
1:08:05
know.
1:08:06
Like,
1:08:06
I
1:08:06
think
1:08:06
it's.
1:08:07
It's.
1:08:07
I
1:08:08
don't
1:08:08
know,
1:08:08
dude.
1:08:08
It's.
1:08:09
It's
1:08:09
difficult.
1:08:10
That's
1:08:11
like
1:08:11
one
1:08:11
of
1:08:11
the
1:08:11
more
1:08:11
conservative
1:08:12
sides,
1:08:13
you
1:08:13
know,
1:08:13
Christian
1:08:13
wise.
1:08:14
I
1:08:14
guess
1:08:15
that
1:08:15
I'm
1:08:15
like,
1:08:16
yeah,
1:08:16
I
1:08:16
don't
1:08:16
know,
1:08:16
man.
1:08:16
I
1:08:17
kind
1:08:17
of
1:08:17
get
1:08:17
it.
1:08:17
Like
1:08:17
the
1:08:17
whole
1:08:18
people
1:08:18
suck
1:08:18
bit.
1:08:19
I
1:08:19
don't
1:08:19
think
1:08:19
that's
1:08:20
the
1:08:20
truest
1:08:20
thing
1:08:20
about
1:08:20
them.
1:08:21
That's
1:08:21
where
1:08:21
I
1:08:21
disagree
1:08:22
with
1:08:22
kind
1:08:22
of
1:08:22
like
1:08:22
the
1:08:23
whole
1:08:23
total
1:08:23
depravity
1:08:24
thing.
1:08:25
I
1:08:25
don't
1:08:25
think
1:08:26
the
1:08:26
fact
1:08:26
that
1:08:26
people
1:08:26
suck
1:08:27
is
1:08:27
the
1:08:27
truest
1:08:27
thing
1:08:27
about
1:08:27
them.
1:08:28
I
1:08:28
think
1:08:28
the
1:08:28
truest
1:08:29
fact
1:08:29
about
1:08:29
people
1:08:30
on
1:08:30
days
1:08:30
when
1:08:30
I
1:08:30
still
1:08:31
believe
1:08:31
in
1:08:31
God
1:08:31
is
1:08:31
that,
1:08:32
you
1:08:33
know,
1:08:33
God
1:08:33
knows
1:08:34
your
1:08:34
name,
1:08:34
knows
1:08:34
your
1:08:34
face,
1:08:34
and
1:08:35
gives
1:08:35
a
1:08:35
shit.
1:08:35
To
1:08:35
quote
1:08:36
Dr.
1:08:36
Trip
1:08:36
Fuller
1:08:38
or
1:08:38
like,
1:08:38
you
1:08:39
know,
1:08:39
I've
1:08:39
seen
1:08:39
Tripp
1:08:40
talk
1:08:40
about
1:08:40
the
1:08:40
prodigal
1:08:41
son
1:08:41
and
1:08:42
say
1:08:42
that
1:08:42
like,
1:08:42
the
1:08:42
truest
1:08:42
thing
1:08:43
about
1:08:43
the
1:08:43
prodigal
1:08:43
son
1:08:44
wasn't
1:08:44
that
1:08:44
he
1:08:44
like
1:08:45
ran
1:08:45
away
1:08:45
and
1:08:45
blew
1:08:46
all
1:08:46
his
1:08:46
dad's
1:08:46
money,
1:08:46
but
1:08:47
the
1:08:47
truest
1:08:47
thing
1:08:47
about
1:08:47
him
1:08:47
was
1:08:48
who
1:08:48
his
1:08:48
dad
1:08:48
was.
1:08:49
His
1:08:49
dad
1:08:50
was
1:08:50
still
1:08:50
his
1:08:50
dad
1:08:50
the
1:08:50
whole
1:08:51
time.
1:08:51
He
1:08:51
was
1:08:52
still
1:08:52
the
1:08:52
son
1:08:52
that
1:08:52
never
1:08:53
changed.
1:08:53
So
1:08:54
why
1:08:54
do
1:08:54
we
1:08:54
focus
1:08:54
on
1:08:54
all
1:08:55
the
1:08:55
bad
1:08:55
stuff
1:08:56
anyway?
1:08:56
I
1:08:57
don't
1:08:57
know.
1:08:57
I'm
1:08:57
gonna
1:08:58
dig
1:08:58
myself
1:08:58
into
1:08:58
a
1:08:58
hole
1:08:59
and
1:08:59
get
1:08:59
angry
1:08:59
emails
1:09:00
to
1:09:00
systematic
1:09:01
egology.
1:09:02
But
1:09:02
I'll
1:09:03
make
1:09:03
it
1:09:03
worse.
1:09:03
I'll
1:09:03
make
1:09:04
it
1:09:04
worse.
1:09:04
First
1:09:04
need
1:09:05
to
1:09:05
give
1:09:05
Will
1:09:06
an
1:09:06
opportunity
1:09:06
to
1:09:06
drink.
1:09:08
Kingdom
1:09:08
Hearts,
1:09:11
man.
1:09:11
To
1:09:11
me.
1:09:12
And
1:09:12
being
1:09:13
a
1:09:13
complete
1:09:13
loser,
1:09:13
I
1:09:14
still
1:09:14
get
1:09:14
chills.
1:09:14
And
1:09:15
sometimes
1:09:15
my
1:09:15
little
1:09:16
Pentecostal
1:09:16
comes
1:09:17
out
1:09:17
and
1:09:17
I
1:09:17
kind
1:09:17
of
1:09:17
want
1:09:18
to
1:09:18
speak
1:09:18
in
1:09:18
tongues
1:09:18
when
1:09:18
I
1:09:19
think
1:09:19
about
1:09:19
this,
1:09:20
an
1:09:20
entire
1:09:21
video
1:09:21
game
1:09:21
series,
1:09:22
Kingdom
1:09:22
Hearts,
1:09:23
like
1:09:23
the
1:09:23
whole
1:09:24
series
1:09:24
is
1:09:25
about
1:09:25
like,
1:09:26
what
1:09:26
are
1:09:26
you?
1:09:27
Are
1:09:27
you
1:09:27
your
1:09:27
body?
1:09:28
Are
1:09:28
you.
1:09:28
So
1:09:28
you
1:09:28
know
1:09:28
all
1:09:28
the
1:09:29
stuff
1:09:29
I
1:09:29
mentioned
1:09:29
earlier,
1:09:29
right?
1:09:30
And
1:09:30
do
1:09:30
you
1:09:30
know
1:09:30
what
1:09:30
the
1:09:30
titular
1:09:31
song
1:09:31
is?
1:09:32
Like
1:09:32
every
1:09:33
single
1:09:33
game
1:09:34
menu
1:09:34
plays
1:09:35
a
1:09:35
track
1:09:35
that
1:09:36
is
1:09:36
Yoko
1:09:36
Shimomura's
1:09:38
classic
1:09:38
piece
1:09:39
titled
1:09:40
Dearly
1:09:41
Beloved.
1:09:42
And
1:09:42
so
1:09:43
much
1:09:43
of
1:09:43
me
1:09:44
is
1:09:44
like,
1:09:45
God,
1:09:45
like,
1:09:46
I
1:09:46
just,
1:09:46
I
1:09:46
want
1:09:46
to
1:09:47
cry.
1:09:47
I'm
1:09:47
like,
1:09:47
man,
1:09:47
hey,
1:09:48
are
1:09:49
you.
1:09:49
Your
1:09:49
heart,
1:09:49
Are
1:09:49
you
1:09:49
still
1:09:50
you
1:09:50
with
1:09:50
it?
1:09:50
Your
1:09:50
memories,
1:09:50
Are
1:09:51
you
1:09:51
still
1:09:51
you
1:09:51
with
1:09:51
this?
1:09:51
I
1:09:51
don't
1:09:51
know.
1:09:52
But
1:09:52
what
1:09:52
I
1:09:52
do
1:09:52
know
1:09:53
is
1:09:53
that
1:09:53
you're
1:09:53
dearly
1:09:54
beloved.
1:09:54
And
1:09:54
to
1:09:55
me
1:09:55
that
1:09:55
just
1:09:55
gives
1:09:55
me
1:09:56
chills,
1:09:56
man.
1:09:56
I'm
1:09:57
like,
1:09:57
yeah,
1:09:57
like
1:09:58
silly
1:09:58
little
1:09:58
Disney
1:09:58
video
1:09:59
game
1:09:59
where
1:10:00
a
1:10:00
guy
1:10:00
has
1:10:00
too
1:10:00
big
1:10:00
a
1:10:01
feet
1:10:01
for
1:10:01
some
1:10:01
reason
1:10:02
and
1:10:02
your
1:10:02
weapon
1:10:03
is
1:10:03
a
1:10:03
big
1:10:03
key.
1:10:04
But
1:10:04
you
1:10:04
know
1:10:04
what
1:10:05
I
1:10:05
do
1:10:05
know
1:10:05
from
1:10:05
that
1:10:05
game,
1:10:06
I'm
1:10:06
dearly
1:10:07
beloved.
1:10:07
And
1:10:07
that
1:10:07
game
1:10:08
is
1:10:08
never
1:10:08
going
1:10:08
to
1:10:08
let
1:10:08
me
1:10:09
forget
1:10:09
it
1:10:09
because
1:10:10
I
1:10:10
don't
1:10:10
think
1:10:10
the
1:10:10
franchise
1:10:11
is
1:10:11
going
1:10:11
to
1:10:11
end
1:10:11
because
1:10:11
it
1:10:11
makes
1:10:11
too
1:10:11
much.
1:10:13
Yeah,
1:10:13
yeah,
1:10:14
yeah.
1:10:14
No,
1:10:14
it's
1:10:14
true.
1:10:14
I
1:10:15
think
1:10:15
I.
1:10:15
I
1:10:15
think
1:10:16
that's
1:10:16
good.
1:10:16
And
1:10:16
in
1:10:17
often
1:10:17
for
1:10:18
people
1:10:18
like
1:10:18
myself
1:10:19
who
1:10:21
I
1:10:21
don't
1:10:21
know
1:10:21
have
1:10:22
a
1:10:22
non
1:10:22
existent
1:10:23
self
1:10:23
esteem
1:10:23
and
1:10:24
struggle
1:10:24
with
1:10:24
feeling
1:10:25
worthy
1:10:25
and
1:10:25
all
1:10:25
these
1:10:25
kind
1:10:26
of
1:10:26
things,
1:10:27
accepting
1:10:27
that
1:10:28
for
1:10:28
other
1:10:28
people
1:10:28
is
1:10:29
always
1:10:29
pretty
1:10:29
easy
1:10:29
for
1:10:30
me.
1:10:30
I
1:10:30
love
1:10:30
telling
1:10:30
other
1:10:30
people
1:10:31
that
1:10:31
and
1:10:32
it's
1:10:32
most
1:10:32
difficult
1:10:32
to
1:10:33
accept
1:10:33
for
1:10:33
myself.
1:10:35
But
1:10:35
what's
1:10:36
really
1:10:36
cool
1:10:36
is
1:10:36
when
1:10:36
you're
1:10:37
surrounded
1:10:37
by
1:10:37
people
1:10:38
who
1:10:38
constantly
1:10:38
remind
1:10:39
you
1:10:39
of
1:10:39
that
1:10:39
fact.
1:10:40
To
1:10:40
go
1:10:40
back
1:10:41
to
1:10:41
like
1:10:41
we
1:10:41
Only
1:10:42
exist
1:10:42
in
1:10:42
relationship
1:10:43
thing,
1:10:44
and
1:10:44
we
1:10:44
need
1:10:44
other
1:10:44
people
1:10:45
to
1:10:45
tell
1:10:45
us
1:10:45
who
1:10:46
we
1:10:46
are.
1:10:47
I
1:10:47
think
1:10:47
that's
1:10:48
true.
1:10:48
So,
1:10:49
yeah.
1:10:49
And
1:10:49
this
1:10:49
is
1:10:49
the
1:10:49
first
1:10:50
official
1:10:50
plug
1:10:50
for
1:10:50
theology
1:10:51
beer
1:10:51
camp
1:10:51
2026.
1:10:52
Make
1:10:52
sure
1:10:53
you
1:10:53
are.
1:10:56
No,
1:10:56
but
1:10:56
I
1:10:56
do
1:10:56
think,
1:10:57
like,
1:10:57
I
1:10:57
love
1:10:57
that
1:10:57
community.
1:10:58
I
1:10:58
love
1:10:58
you
1:10:58
guys.
1:10:58
I
1:10:58
love
1:10:59
all
1:10:59
the
1:10:59
people
1:10:59
who
1:10:59
join
1:10:59
us
1:10:59
on
1:10:59
Systemic
1:11:00
ecology.
1:11:01
And,
1:11:02
man,
1:11:02
I've
1:11:02
met
1:11:02
some
1:11:02
really
1:11:02
cool
1:11:03
people
1:11:03
through
1:11:03
this
1:11:03
and
1:11:03
I
1:11:04
formed
1:11:04
a
1:11:04
lot
1:11:04
of
1:11:04
relationships
1:11:05
and
1:11:06
I'm
1:11:06
not
1:11:06
a
1:11:06
people
1:11:06
person.
1:11:07
So
1:11:07
this
1:11:07
whole
1:11:07
podcast
1:11:08
thing,
1:11:08
this
1:11:08
whole,
1:11:08
like,
1:11:09
online
1:11:09
community
1:11:09
thing
1:11:10
has
1:11:10
brought
1:11:10
a
1:11:10
lot
1:11:11
of
1:11:11
meaning
1:11:11
to
1:11:11
my
1:11:11
life.
1:11:11
And
1:11:12
I
1:11:12
really
1:11:12
appreciate
1:11:13
you,
1:11:13
Josh
1:11:13
Patterson,
1:11:14
and
1:11:16
you
1:11:16
guys
1:11:16
listening,
1:11:16
who
1:11:17
has
1:11:17
just
1:11:18
been
1:11:18
a
1:11:18
part
1:11:18
of
1:11:18
this
1:11:18
community
1:11:19
have
1:11:19
brought
1:11:19
so
1:11:19
much
1:11:19
life
1:11:19
to
1:11:20
me.
1:11:20
I
1:11:20
appreciate
1:11:21
the
1:11:21
hell
1:11:21
out
1:11:21
of
1:11:21
that.
1:11:23
Sorry,
1:11:23
I
1:11:23
feel
1:11:23
like
1:11:23
I'm
1:11:23
being
1:11:23
really
1:11:24
vulnerable
1:11:24
here.
1:11:26
Ice
1:11:26
Cream
1:11:26
Man.
1:11:26
People
1:11:27
didn't
1:11:27
expect
1:11:27
this.
1:11:27
Do
1:11:28
you
1:11:28
hear
1:11:28
Ice
1:11:28
Cream
1:11:28
Man?
1:11:28
I
1:11:29
feel
1:11:29
like
1:11:29
that's
1:11:29
not
1:11:29
what
1:11:29
you
1:11:29
think.
1:11:31
That's
1:11:31
one
1:11:32
of
1:11:32
the
1:11:32
feed.
1:11:32
The
1:11:32
things
1:11:33
I
1:11:33
get
1:11:33
positive
1:11:34
feedback
1:11:34
on
1:11:34
rethinking
1:11:35
Faith
1:11:35
is
1:11:35
people
1:11:36
tell
1:11:36
me
1:11:36
not
1:11:36
to
1:11:36
stop
1:11:37
being
1:11:37
vulnerable.
1:11:37
And
1:11:38
it's
1:11:38
okay
1:11:38
that
1:11:38
I
1:11:38
cry
1:11:38
on
1:11:39
episodes
1:11:39
all
1:11:39
the
1:11:39
time.
1:11:40
So
1:11:40
even
1:11:41
if
1:11:41
I
1:11:41
hate
1:11:41
that
1:11:41
part
1:11:41
about
1:11:42
myself
1:11:42
or
1:11:42
I
1:11:42
don't
1:11:43
hate
1:11:43
it,
1:11:43
I
1:11:44
just
1:11:44
get
1:11:44
embarrassed
1:11:44
about
1:11:44
it.
1:11:45
Well,
1:11:45
I
1:11:46
love
1:11:46
it.
1:11:46
Vulnerability
1:11:47
is
1:11:47
good.
1:11:47
Yeah.
1:11:48
Part
1:11:48
of
1:11:48
you.
1:11:48
And
1:11:49
I
1:11:49
love
1:11:50
that
1:11:50
part
1:11:50
of
1:11:50
you,
1:11:52
man.
1:11:52
Yeah.
1:11:53
Again,
1:11:53
you
1:11:53
know,
1:11:53
there's
1:11:54
just.
1:11:54
There's
1:11:54
so
1:11:54
much
1:11:54
you
1:11:54
could
1:11:55
say.
1:11:55
The
1:11:55
good,
1:11:55
bad
1:11:56
thing,
1:11:56
I
1:11:56
will
1:11:57
say
1:11:57
to
1:11:57
be
1:11:58
controversial.
1:11:58
Since
1:11:58
you
1:11:59
mentioned
1:11:59
Donald
1:11:59
Trump,
1:12:00
you
1:12:00
mentioned
1:12:00
Hitler.
1:12:01
I'll
1:12:01
mention
1:12:01
Donald
1:12:01
J.
1:12:02
Trump.
1:12:03
Who's
1:12:03
that?
1:12:04
I
1:12:04
think
1:12:05
he
1:12:05
is
1:12:06
actually.
1:12:06
If
1:12:06
there
1:12:06
were
1:12:06
some
1:12:07
people
1:12:07
that
1:12:07
I
1:12:07
do
1:12:07
think
1:12:08
are
1:12:08
evil,
1:12:08
I
1:12:08
think
1:12:08
he's
1:12:09
probably
1:12:09
an
1:12:09
evil
1:12:10
person
1:12:10
overall.
1:12:11
That
1:12:11
doesn't
1:12:12
mean
1:12:12
there's
1:12:12
nothing
1:12:12
good
1:12:12
in
1:12:13
him.
1:12:13
I
1:12:13
actually
1:12:13
think
1:12:13
he.
1:12:14
He
1:12:14
has
1:12:14
done
1:12:14
a
1:12:14
lot
1:12:14
of
1:12:15
good
1:12:15
in
1:12:15
showing
1:12:15
people,
1:12:15
like,
1:12:16
hey,
1:12:16
the
1:12:16
answer
1:12:16
to
1:12:17
some
1:12:17
people
1:12:17
being
1:12:17
marginalized
1:12:18
isn't
1:12:18
to
1:12:19
try
1:12:19
to
1:12:19
marginalize
1:12:19
the
1:12:20
people
1:12:20
who
1:12:21
aren't
1:12:21
currently
1:12:21
marginalized.
1:12:23
Right
1:12:23
now.
1:12:24
I
1:12:24
think
1:12:24
his
1:12:24
answer
1:12:24
was
1:12:25
incorrect,
1:12:25
his
1:12:25
answer
1:12:26
to
1:12:26
that,
1:12:26
But
1:12:26
I
1:12:26
think
1:12:26
the
1:12:26
fact
1:12:27
that
1:12:27
he
1:12:27
highlighted
1:12:27
that
1:12:27
there
1:12:28
was
1:12:28
a
1:12:28
problem
1:12:28
is
1:12:28
a
1:12:29
good
1:12:29
thing
1:12:29
still.
1:12:30
So,
1:12:30
yeah,
1:12:30
to
1:12:30
go
1:12:30
back
1:12:31
to
1:12:31
you,
1:12:31
like,
1:12:31
yeah,
1:12:31
hey,
1:12:31
we're
1:12:31
all
1:12:32
split
1:12:32
down
1:12:32
the
1:12:32
line.
1:12:32
Maybe
1:12:33
some
1:12:33
of
1:12:33
us
1:12:33
had
1:12:33
a
1:12:33
little
1:12:33
bit
1:12:33
more
1:12:34
evil
1:12:34
than
1:12:34
good.
1:12:35
Sorry,
1:12:35
Trump.
1:12:37
We
1:12:37
all
1:12:37
have
1:12:37
that
1:12:38
line.
1:12:38
I
1:12:38
think
1:12:38
it's
1:12:38
important.
1:12:39
Like,
1:12:39
Hitler,
1:12:39
Hitler,
1:12:40
way
1:12:40
more
1:12:40
evil
1:12:41
than
1:12:41
good.
1:12:41
Yeah,
1:12:42
yeah.
1:12:42
Like,
1:12:42
you
1:12:42
know
1:12:43
in
1:12:43
Stitch,
1:12:43
in
1:12:43
Lilo
1:12:44
and
1:12:44
Stitch,
1:12:44
where
1:12:44
they,
1:12:45
like,
1:12:45
show
1:12:45
his
1:12:45
body
1:12:46
and
1:12:46
part
1:12:46
of
1:12:47
his
1:12:47
level
1:12:47
of
1:12:47
evil.
1:12:48
Like,
1:12:48
yeah,
1:12:49
yeah,
1:12:49
yeah.
1:12:49
Some
1:12:49
of
1:12:50
our
1:12:50
levels
1:12:50
of
1:12:50
evil
1:12:51
is
1:12:51
higher
1:12:51
than
1:12:51
others.
1:12:52
That's
1:12:52
it.
1:12:52
We
1:12:52
all
1:12:53
need
1:12:53
Lilo
1:12:54
to
1:12:54
draw
1:12:54
little
1:12:54
paintings
1:12:55
with
1:12:55
red
1:12:56
so
1:12:56
that
1:12:56
we
1:12:56
could
1:12:56
see,
1:12:56
like,
1:12:56
wait
1:12:57
a
1:12:57
minute.
1:12:57
So
1:12:57
me
1:12:57
is
1:12:58
good.
1:12:59
He
1:12:59
needs
1:12:59
to
1:12:59
be
1:12:59
worked
1:13:00
on.
1:13:00
Maybe
1:13:00
I
1:13:00
should
1:13:01
be
1:13:01
more
1:13:01
like
1:13:01
Elvis.
1:13:02
Just
1:13:02
kidding.
1:13:03
He's
1:13:03
also
1:13:03
very
1:13:03
problematic,
1:13:04
but.
1:13:04
Problematic.
1:13:05
Yeah.
1:13:06
Josh,
1:13:06
have
1:13:06
any
1:13:07
final
1:13:07
thoughts
1:13:07
about
1:13:08
this
1:13:08
comic
1:13:08
before
1:13:08
we
1:13:08
start
1:13:08
wrapping
1:13:09
this
1:13:09
up?
1:13:09
No,
1:13:10
I
1:13:10
just.
1:13:10
I
1:13:10
just.
1:13:10
I
1:13:11
enjoyed
1:13:11
it,
1:13:11
man.
1:13:11
Thank
1:13:11
you
1:13:12
for.
1:13:12
For
1:13:12
coming
1:13:13
up
1:13:13
with
1:13:13
this
1:13:13
idea
1:13:14
and
1:13:14
inviting
1:13:14
me
1:13:14
to
1:13:14
talk
1:13:14
about
1:13:15
comics.
1:13:15
It's.
1:13:16
It's
1:13:16
fun.
1:13:16
It
1:13:17
gets
1:13:17
me
1:13:17
out
1:13:17
of
1:13:17
the
1:13:17
kind
1:13:18
of,
1:13:18
like,
1:13:18
my
1:13:19
normal
1:13:19
mode
1:13:19
of
1:13:19
being,
1:13:20
which
1:13:21
I
1:13:21
appreciate,
1:13:22
and
1:13:22
it's
1:13:22
like,
1:13:22
it's
1:13:23
cool.
1:13:23
It's
1:13:23
fun
1:13:24
to
1:13:24
talk
1:13:24
about
1:13:24
these
1:13:24
things.
1:13:26
I
1:13:26
don't
1:13:26
know.
1:13:26
I
1:13:26
mean,
1:13:26
the.
1:13:26
The
1:13:27
comic,
1:13:28
you
1:13:28
know,
1:13:28
speaks
1:13:29
very
1:13:29
closely
1:13:29
to
1:13:30
that
1:13:30
I
1:13:30
care
1:13:31
about,
1:13:31
which,
1:13:32
I
1:13:32
don't
1:13:32
know.
1:13:32
Maybe
1:13:33
you
1:13:33
did
1:13:33
that
1:13:33
on
1:13:33
purpose.
1:13:34
I
1:13:34
think
1:13:34
you
1:13:34
probably
1:13:34
did,
1:13:34
but
1:13:35
it.
1:13:35
It's
1:13:36
good.
1:13:36
I
1:13:36
appreciate
1:13:36
it.
1:13:36
And
1:13:37
so
1:13:37
I'm
1:13:37
excited
1:13:37
to
1:13:37
see
1:13:38
what
1:13:38
other
1:13:38
comics
1:13:38
you
1:13:39
throw
1:13:39
at
1:13:39
me
1:13:39
and
1:13:40
what
1:13:40
other
1:13:41
fun
1:13:41
conversations
1:13:42
we're
1:13:42
going
1:13:42
to
1:13:42
have,
1:13:42
because
1:13:43
I
1:13:43
know
1:13:43
you
1:13:44
messaged
1:13:44
me
1:13:44
the
1:13:44
one
1:13:44
time,
1:13:45
like,
1:13:45
hey,
1:13:45
like,
1:13:45
you
1:13:45
know,
1:13:46
I
1:13:46
just
1:13:46
want
1:13:46
to
1:13:46
make
1:13:46
sure
1:13:47
I,
1:13:47
like,
1:13:47
don't
1:13:47
give
1:13:47
you
1:13:48
any
1:13:48
comics
1:13:48
that
1:13:48
you've
1:13:48
read
1:13:49
before.
1:13:49
I
1:13:49
was
1:13:50
like,
1:13:50
joshua,
1:13:50
I
1:13:51
promise
1:13:51
you.
1:13:52
I
1:13:52
promise
1:13:53
you,
1:13:53
you
1:13:54
will
1:13:54
not
1:13:54
send
1:13:54
me
1:13:54
a
1:13:55
comic
1:13:55
I
1:13:55
haven't.
1:13:56
I've
1:13:56
read
1:13:56
before
1:13:57
because
1:13:57
I
1:13:57
don't
1:13:58
read
1:13:58
comics.
1:14:00
So
1:14:01
perfect.
1:14:01
Not
1:14:01
because
1:14:02
I
1:14:02
don't
1:14:02
like
1:14:02
them.
1:14:02
I
1:14:03
just
1:14:03
don't
1:14:03
do
1:14:03
it.
1:14:03
You
1:14:03
know,
1:14:04
you.
1:14:04
You've
1:14:04
gotten
1:14:05
me
1:14:05
to
1:14:05
read
1:14:05
some
1:14:05
comics
1:14:06
now.
1:14:06
Will
1:14:06
Rose
1:14:06
has
1:14:06
gotten
1:14:07
me
1:14:07
to
1:14:07
read
1:14:07
comics.
1:14:07
Ryan
1:14:08
does
1:14:08
has
1:14:08
gotten
1:14:08
me
1:14:09
to
1:14:09
read
1:14:09
comics,
1:14:09
and
1:14:10
I
1:14:11
don't
1:14:11
know.
1:14:11
Well
1:14:11
done.
1:14:12
I
1:14:12
was
1:14:13
gonna
1:14:13
also
1:14:13
just
1:14:13
know
1:14:14
you've
1:14:14
said
1:14:14
a
1:14:14
lot
1:14:14
of
1:14:14
nice
1:14:15
stuff
1:14:15
about
1:14:15
me,
1:14:15
but
1:14:15
just
1:14:16
know,
1:14:16
like,
1:14:16
I
1:14:17
wouldn't
1:14:17
have
1:14:17
entertained
1:14:18
this
1:14:18
idea
1:14:18
if
1:14:18
I
1:14:18
didn't
1:14:18
care
1:14:19
about
1:14:19
you.
1:14:20
I
1:14:20
wouldn't
1:14:21
read
1:14:21
comics
1:14:21
with
1:14:22
you
1:14:22
if
1:14:22
I
1:14:23
didn't
1:14:23
think
1:14:23
it
1:14:23
was
1:14:23
worth
1:14:23
my
1:14:24
time,
1:14:24
because
1:14:25
I
1:14:25
can
1:14:25
be
1:14:25
an.
1:14:25
That
1:14:26
way.
1:14:26
So,
1:14:26
dude,
1:14:27
take
1:14:27
that
1:14:27
for
1:14:28
what
1:14:28
you.
1:14:28
For
1:14:28
what
1:14:29
you
1:14:29
will.
1:14:30
Speaking,
1:14:31
we
1:14:31
mentioned
1:14:31
Ryan.
1:14:32
I
1:14:32
think
1:14:32
Ryan's
1:14:32
gonna
1:14:33
try
1:14:33
and
1:14:33
join
1:14:33
us
1:14:33
for
1:14:33
the
1:14:33
next
1:14:34
one.
1:14:35
Oh,
1:14:35
we're
1:14:35
gonna
1:14:35
be
1:14:36
talking
1:14:36
about
1:14:36
a
1:14:36
comic
1:14:37
that's
1:14:37
titled
1:14:38
God
1:14:38
Damned
1:14:38
by
1:14:39
Jason
1:14:39
Aaron,
1:14:40
who
1:14:40
is
1:14:40
an
1:14:41
atheist
1:14:41
with
1:14:42
also
1:14:42
some
1:14:42
similar.
1:14:43
He
1:14:43
has
1:14:43
a
1:14:44
lot
1:14:44
of.
1:14:44
It's
1:14:44
really
1:14:44
funny.
1:14:45
I
1:14:45
think
1:14:45
he
1:14:45
has
1:14:45
a
1:14:45
lot
1:14:46
of
1:14:46
deconstructionist
1:14:47
thoughts
1:14:47
for
1:14:48
someone
1:14:48
who
1:14:48
isn't
1:14:49
Christian,
1:14:49
because
1:14:50
usually
1:14:50
the
1:14:50
deconstructionist
1:14:51
thoughts
1:14:51
that
1:14:51
I
1:14:51
read
1:14:51
are
1:14:52
still
1:14:52
Christians
1:14:53
who
1:14:53
are
1:14:53
just
1:14:53
deconstructed.
1:14:55
But.
1:14:55
Yeah,
1:14:55
so
1:14:55
we're
1:14:56
going
1:14:56
to
1:14:56
be
1:14:56
talking
1:14:56
about
1:14:56
A
1:14:56
Cain,
1:14:57
a
1:14:58
fictional
1:14:58
story
1:14:58
about
1:14:58
Cain
1:14:59
from
1:14:59
Cain
1:14:59
and
1:15:00
Abel.
1:15:00
Bible
1:15:00
story
1:15:00
from
1:15:01
an
1:15:01
atheist
1:15:01
point
1:15:01
of
1:15:02
view.
1:15:02
And
1:15:02
a
1:15:03
lot
1:15:03
of
1:15:03
action,
1:15:03
a
1:15:04
lot
1:15:04
of
1:15:04
gore.
1:15:05
Yeah,
1:15:06
very
1:15:06
much.
1:15:06
Not
1:15:06
a
1:15:06
like
1:15:06
a
1:15:07
mainstream,
1:15:07
happy,
1:15:07
feel
1:15:08
good
1:15:08
comic,
1:15:08
but
1:15:08
I
1:15:09
think
1:15:09
we'll
1:15:09
have
1:15:09
a
1:15:09
fun
1:15:09
talk
1:15:10
with
1:15:10
that
1:15:10
too.
1:15:11
Another.
1:15:11
Another
1:15:11
Image
1:15:12
comics.
1:15:13
Yeah.
1:15:14
Turns
1:15:14
out
1:15:14
I'm
1:15:14
a
1:15:14
big
1:15:14
fan
1:15:15
of
1:15:15
Image.
1:15:15
I
1:15:15
just
1:15:15
didn't
1:15:16
realize
1:15:17
you
1:15:17
didn't
1:15:17
know.
1:15:18
That's
1:15:18
good.
1:15:18
I.
1:15:19
Well,
1:15:19
I.
1:15:20
What?
1:15:20
From
1:15:20
what
1:15:20
I've
1:15:21
read.
1:15:22
Well,
1:15:23
I.
1:15:23
When
1:15:24
it
1:15:24
comes
1:15:24
to
1:15:24
this
1:15:24
kind
1:15:24
of
1:15:24
stuff,
1:15:25
like,
1:15:25
I
1:15:25
still
1:15:25
love
1:15:25
Marvel
1:15:25
and
1:15:25
dc,
1:15:26
but
1:15:26
like,
1:15:26
the
1:15:26
stuff
1:15:26
that
1:15:26
really
1:15:27
makes
1:15:27
me
1:15:27
have
1:15:27
to
1:15:27
think,
1:15:28
I
1:15:28
think
1:15:28
typically
1:15:29
comes
1:15:29
from
1:15:29
more
1:15:29
of
1:15:30
like
1:15:30
the
1:15:30
indie
1:15:30
comics
1:15:31
who
1:15:31
aren't
1:15:31
necessarily
1:15:32
writing
1:15:32
for
1:15:32
the
1:15:32
man,
1:15:32
who
1:15:33
are
1:15:33
just
1:15:33
kind
1:15:33
of
1:15:33
writing
1:15:33
stories
1:15:34
that
1:15:34
matter
1:15:34
to
1:15:35
them.
1:15:35
Of
1:15:36
course.
1:15:36
Yeah.
1:15:36
So
1:15:36
that's
1:15:37
why
1:15:37
theology
1:15:37
is
1:15:38
always
1:15:38
best
1:15:38
from
1:15:38
the
1:15:38
margins.
1:15:39
Just
1:15:40
saying.
1:15:40
Ooh,
1:15:41
that's
1:15:41
a.
1:15:41
That's
1:15:41
a
1:15:42
good
1:15:42
line.
1:15:42
Just
1:15:42
saying
1:15:43
we
1:15:43
need.
1:15:43
We
1:15:43
need
1:15:43
a
1:15:43
sound
1:15:44
effect
1:15:44
that's
1:15:44
like
1:15:44
people
1:15:44
snapping
1:15:45
at
1:15:45
like
1:15:45
a
1:15:46
slap
1:15:46
poetry.
1:15:49
Perfect.
1:15:49
This
1:15:49
is
1:15:49
good.
1:15:51
All
1:15:51
right.
1:15:52
Well,
1:15:52
hey,
1:15:52
I.
1:15:52
I
1:15:53
appreciate
1:15:53
you
1:15:53
and
1:15:53
your
1:15:53
time
1:15:54
reading
1:15:54
comics,
1:15:55
you
1:15:55
know.
1:15:55
You
1:15:55
know,
1:15:56
at
1:15:56
one
1:15:56
point
1:15:56
I
1:15:56
was
1:15:56
gonna
1:15:56
be
1:15:56
like,
1:15:57
the
1:15:57
intro
1:15:57
was
1:15:57
gonna
1:15:57
be,
1:15:58
I.
1:15:58
I'm
1:15:58
the
1:15:58
Joshua
1:15:59
reads
1:15:59
comics
1:15:59
and
1:16:00
this
1:16:00
is
1:16:00
the
1:16:00
Josh
1:16:00
who.
1:16:00
Who
1:16:01
reads
1:16:01
smart
1:16:01
people
1:16:01
but
1:16:02
philosophy
1:16:02
of
1:16:03
theology.
1:16:03
And
1:16:03
we're
1:16:04
gonna
1:16:04
talk
1:16:04
about
1:16:06
books
1:16:06
that.
1:16:06
Only
1:16:06
five
1:16:07
people
1:16:07
in
1:16:07
the
1:16:08
entire
1:16:08
world
1:16:08
care
1:16:08
about.
1:16:09
Oh,
1:16:09
man.
1:16:10
Yeah.
1:16:10
No,
1:16:10
it's
1:16:11
good
1:16:11
stuff.
1:16:11
Again,
1:16:12
thank
1:16:12
you
1:16:12
guys
1:16:12
who
1:16:12
are
1:16:13
sponsoring
1:16:13
the
1:16:13
show.
1:16:13
This
1:16:14
is
1:16:14
gonna.
1:16:14
Primarily,
1:16:14
the
1:16:14
series
1:16:15
is
1:16:15
gonna
1:16:15
be
1:16:15
like
1:16:15
every
1:16:16
other
1:16:16
month,
1:16:16
basically.
1:16:17
I'm
1:16:17
not
1:16:18
promising
1:16:18
or
1:16:19
committing
1:16:19
to
1:16:19
that
1:16:19
because
1:16:20
I
1:16:20
know
1:16:20
how
1:16:20
my
1:16:20
life
1:16:21
is.
1:16:21
But
1:16:21
we're
1:16:22
gonna
1:16:22
try
1:16:22
to
1:16:22
do
1:16:22
like
1:16:22
basically
1:16:23
every
1:16:23
other
1:16:23
month.
1:16:24
Get
1:16:24
on
1:16:24
here.
1:16:24
It'll
1:16:25
be
1:16:25
free
1:16:25
on
1:16:25
Systematic
1:16:26
Ecology's
1:16:27
website
1:16:27
for
1:16:27
those
1:16:28
who
1:16:28
are
1:16:28
official
1:16:28
members
1:16:28
of
1:16:29
Systematic
1:16:29
Ecology
1:16:30
as
1:16:30
well
1:16:30
as
1:16:31
those
1:16:31
who
1:16:31
are
1:16:32
free
1:16:32
members
1:16:32
or
1:16:33
paid
1:16:33
members
1:16:33
on
1:16:33
the
1:16:34
Patreon
1:16:34
for
1:16:35
the
1:16:35
Rethinking
1:16:36
Faith
1:16:36
podcast,
1:16:37
which
1:16:37
I
1:16:37
am
1:16:37
a
1:16:37
paid
1:16:38
member
1:16:38
of
1:16:38
and
1:16:38
I
1:16:38
recommend
1:16:39
everyone
1:16:39
do
1:16:39
that.
1:16:40
Yeah,
1:16:40
I
1:16:40
think
1:16:40
I'll
1:16:41
also.
1:16:41
I'll
1:16:41
probably
1:16:41
release
1:16:42
this
1:16:42
first
1:16:42
episode
1:16:42
on
1:16:42
the
1:16:43
main
1:16:43
feed
1:16:43
too,
1:16:43
just
1:16:43
to
1:16:44
sick
1:16:44
give
1:16:45
the
1:16:45
divine
1:16:45
luurn.
1:16:46
Yeah,
1:16:47
do
1:16:47
it
1:16:48
guys.
1:16:48
Become
1:16:48
members
1:16:49
of
1:16:49
both.
1:16:49
It's
1:16:50
worth
1:16:51
is.
1:16:51
Yeah,
1:16:52
I
1:16:52
already
1:16:53
mentioned
1:16:53
the
1:16:53
next
1:16:53
book
1:16:53
again.
1:16:53
It's
1:16:54
goddamn.
1:16:54
So
1:16:54
if
1:16:54
you
1:16:54
guys
1:16:55
want
1:16:55
to
1:16:55
read
1:16:55
along
1:16:55
with
1:16:55
us.
1:16:55
God
1:16:56
Damned
1:16:56
by
1:16:56
Jason
1:16:57
Aaron.
1:16:57
This
1:16:57
is
1:16:58
probably
1:16:58
the
1:16:58
most
1:16:58
I've
1:16:58
said
1:16:58
goddamn
1:16:59
or
1:16:59
goddamned
1:17:00
in
1:17:00
a
1:17:00
single
1:17:01
conversation.
1:17:01
It's
1:17:02
a
1:17:02
weird
1:17:02
thing.
1:17:02
I'll
1:17:02
say
1:17:03
God
1:17:03
damn.
1:17:03
Now
1:17:03
you
1:17:04
don't
1:17:04
you
1:17:04
feel
1:17:04
less.
1:17:04
I'm
1:17:04
gonna
1:17:05
say
1:17:05
even
1:17:05
more
1:17:05
next
1:17:06
episode.
1:17:07
When
1:17:07
we
1:17:07
read
1:17:08
the
1:17:08
goddamn
1:17:08
book.
1:17:09
God
1:17:09
damn.
1:17:10
The
1:17:10
goddamn
1:17:10
Goddamn.
1:17:12
By
1:17:13
a
1:17:13
goddamn
1:17:13
Jason
1:17:14
Aaron.
1:17:14
No,
1:17:14
I
1:17:15
love
1:17:15
him.
1:17:15
He's
1:17:15
a
1:17:15
cool
1:17:16
guy.
1:17:16
Ryan
1:17:16
and
1:17:17
will
1:17:17
have
1:17:17
talked
1:17:17
to
1:17:17
him
1:17:17
on
1:17:17
podcast
1:17:18
before
1:17:18
too.
1:17:18
But
1:17:18
anyway,
1:17:19
I
1:17:19
have
1:17:19
to
1:17:20
go.
1:17:20
So
1:17:20
I
1:17:20
have
1:17:21
a
1:17:21
fun
1:17:21
thing
1:17:21
to.
1:17:21
Tell
1:17:21
you
1:17:21
when
1:17:22
we
1:17:22
hang
1:17:22
up
1:17:22
about
1:17:22
Jason.
1:17:23
Can't
1:17:24
wait.
1:17:24
And
1:17:25
with
1:17:25
that,
1:17:26
you
1:17:26
guys
1:17:26
don't
1:17:26
get
1:17:27
to
1:17:27
hear
1:17:27
that
1:17:27
part.
1:17:27
That's
1:17:27
for
1:17:28
like,
1:17:28
member
1:17:28
members.
1:17:29
It's
1:17:29
like
1:17:30
if
1:17:30
you
1:17:31
pay
1:17:31
a
1:17:31
million
1:17:31
dollars,
1:17:32
one
1:17:32
of
1:17:32
our
1:17:32
patrons
1:17:33
will
1:17:33
tell
1:17:33
you
1:17:34
what
1:17:34
he
1:17:34
said.
1:17:35
It's
1:17:35
off
1:17:35
the
1:17:35
record.
1:17:36
But
1:17:36
guys,
1:17:37
we
1:17:37
hope
1:17:37
that
1:17:38
you
1:17:38
can
1:17:38
get
1:17:38
to
1:17:38
a
1:17:38
local
1:17:38
library
1:17:39
or
1:17:39
comic
1:17:40
book
1:17:40
store,
1:17:40
pick
1:17:40
up
1:17:40
a
1:17:41
copy
1:17:41
of
1:17:41
Ice
1:17:41
Premium,
1:17:42
a
1:17:42
copy
1:17:42
of
1:17:42
God
1:17:42
Damned,
1:17:43
and
1:17:43
continue
1:17:43
this
1:17:44
journey
1:17:44
with
1:17:44
us
1:17:44
in
1:17:45
love.
1:17:45
Until
1:17:46
next
1:17:46
time.
1:17:47
Later.