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42. Flight Prep Group Interview · The Shift Podcast

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Welcome to fight my datak, a podcast that helps bridge, the
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gap between healthcare workers and First Responders and
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everything in between. I am so excited to share this
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episode with you guys. This is three of my clients in
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my last flight prep group. That just finish up.
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You will get to hear what they they learned out of the group.
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What they came in thinking they were going to learn and what
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they really got from it. I think you'll be surprised by
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some of their answers and I was even surprised on how much that
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they really supported each other and push each other along just
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as much as I did. And you'll get to hear a little
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bit about what we discuss, what we talked about.
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The Mindset My Philosophy in getting into flight and what
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were some of their common struggles.
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What did they think was easy? What did they think was hard
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about the process? And where some of them are
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individually in the process? I hope you guys enjoyed this
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episode. And without further Ado, here is
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my interview with my flight prep group.
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You guys, I'm so excited to have you guys on today.
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We had a little run through right before we started this and
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their most nervous about my first question.
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But I'm going to start it out with that today, we're going to
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be talking to a few people that are in my very first flight prep
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group together and I prepped, a lot of people to get into
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flight, a lot of nurses are ready to get into flight, but
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this was the first Oop, and I really wanted to do a group
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setting because what I realized was that everybody was having
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the same thoughts and feelings about prepping for flight and
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trying to get into it. And I love the idea of a group,
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because you could see that no matter how much experience or
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time that you've been a nurse, we're all having the same
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thoughts of not having enough time and not having enough
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experience. And so I'm going to just start
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out, I'll have you guys introduce yourselves and then
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we'll kind of go from there. Sounds good.
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So Bailey who wants to start first?
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I'll go purse. Hi everyone.
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My name is Bailey looking to get into flight and been an, ER,
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nurse for 5 years. Now, I have no, I see you
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experience that also have some PRN experience in mother baby,
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and I really enjoyed the group sessions that we've been having
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with Janessa and just learn a lot from her.
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And then from everyone else, in the group as well.
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My name is Vicki. I live in Florida and I am and I
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see trouble nurse. I have been a nurse for about
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seven and a half years and the ultimate goal is flight and also
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have really benefited a lot from this group and working with
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Janessa and hi, everyone. My name is Ryan.
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I live in the Seattle area prior to becoming a nurse as an EMT
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for about 10 years. I became a nurse for years ago,
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started off in the ER, then branched into ICU and critical
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care transport. And this has been a really
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awesome group Janessa has been incredible.
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Navigating, this process of researching Flay companies and
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applying for flight and I have nothing but great things to say
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about her and this group It's been a great experience.
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Okay, thank you guys for introducing yourselves.
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I know that this was like some of the one of the hardest
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questions, for some of you guys so he's just Gonna Get Easier
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from here. So let's talk about I first want
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to start, because when people start coaching with me, they
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often come in with one thing that they really want to work on
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and it for you guys that's trying to get into flight and
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navigating all of that. But for some people, it might be
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just like, up leveling or gaining a little bit more
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confidence and usually, what they get from it or the wretch.
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Results that they get from, it are sometimes very different
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than what they think going into it.
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So I'm curious where you guys, if any of you could speak on
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like what was it that one that you were hoping to get from the
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group and to like, what's really been, the byproduct of being a
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part of it for you and and maybe did you get something else,
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besides what you thought you were going to?
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Well, for me, I was really nervous coming in only having,
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ER, experience and everyone in the group has different
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experiences. Like, I know Ryan has a lot of
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pre-hospital experience, a lot of another nurses in the group
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had I see you experience so that made me feel lacking, but also
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just coming to the group, it made me see what I do have, you
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know, I have some different qualities and experiences at
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some of the other nurses don't have.
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And, you know, I'm valuable with what I can bring to the table.
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Despite, you know, the experiences that I Don't have.
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So just learning to highlight and see what I can bring to the
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table. Yeah, and for you Bailey to, we
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talked a lot about comparing and in fact, like our last session
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together, it was like you said, hey, I feel like I'm running
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this marathon, and I see sometimes other people speeding
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up, and getting there before me or interviewing for me.
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And sometimes I let that get in my head but I realized like,
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wait, I'm going to finish this Marathon.
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No matter what at my own pace at my own speed.
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I'm not going to give up so interesting.
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Like how being a part of the group?
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Actually, kind of helped you get out of it.
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Comparison. It did especially when we talked
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about slowing down a little bit. Like I was comparing it to I
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like to run so I was comparing like getting into flight to like
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running a marathon. Like I'm still going to get
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there at the end but I don't have to scramble.
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I don't have to you know try to add this that and the other to
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my resume because I was going through my EMT program and I was
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scrambling to get it done and just because I want to be in
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flight so badly and I just wanted to do it as quick as
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possible, but It was making me exhausted bike every day that I
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wasn't working. I was doing like EMS, clinicals,
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or setting for this or that certification.
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And I was just feeling worn out and this last week I've really
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took the time to rest and not be scrambling so much and honestly
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I think just having a little bit of time to relax and breathe a
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little bit. That's going to help me get to
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the Finish Line. The way they finished, not not
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necessarily quicker but just feeling better.
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The person in general, both work-life balance, and trying to
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apply adding all those things into the mix, just a better
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balance, and I just feel a lot better about it.
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That's great. Because we we also talked about
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with you like, no matter what you're going to get there.
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And so we can choose to scramble and hustle and work hard, like,
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do all of these things and you're going to get there or we
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can choose to, like, step back and say, hey, wait, let's
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balance it all out, because we're going to get there.
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Anyway, what's the way that feels really good for me.
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And just practicing that for you this week.
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What's kind of been the result of doing that for you?
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Do you think Honestly, just feel less stressed.
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I just feel like a weight lifted off my chest instead of spending
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hours a day studying, I did what we talked about, like I'm just
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going to dedicate one hour this morning to studying, and then
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I'm just going to spend the rest of my days off do, and what I
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need to do, you know, spending time with family, cleaning, the
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house, whatever. And that's not something I
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expected to get from the group, but honestly, it's helped me so
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much. Yeah, great, great.
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Yeah, I think for me, I I think I expected to get out some more
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or less Clarity when joining the group because I was having a lot
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of thoughts of self-doubt. I was having a lot of, in my do.
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I have enough experience have the things that I've done enough
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to be hired and I think I got out from the group.
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Is that really? I just am in my own head?
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Just like we are really all in her own head and the things that
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I'm thinking about myself or thinking about my progress,
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everyone else was also thinking about and it kind of just puts
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you at ease and and like you said, like We're going to get
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there when we're supposed to get there in or time and with not
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like a competition or a race with anybody.
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And if anything I felt very supported and it's helped me
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relax, it's really helped me relax because I'm like oh it's
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not just me like I can chill out for a little bit because I tend
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to get in my head and stress out and add everything on my plate
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that I don't need to add on my plate.
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Like it's not necessary because of experience.
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I have and the quality, the skills that I have, and the
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person that I am is enough for her flight.
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Yeah, yeah, great. Thanks for sharing that.
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And I think I really wasn't expecting to apply for jobs
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quite yet. When I started the group that
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was I thought I just wanted to find.
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I don't do. Learn more about flight.
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Nursing to prepare for it more. I felt I still had some things I
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need to do. I know I'm really strong Canada
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on paper Yar. I see you could hook are
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transporting a mess experience, but I really questioned my
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ability to do the job. I questioned if I could do it, I
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just felt I needed more. Variants.
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I have my Cen but I don't have my CCRN yet, so I felt I needed
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that. And through this group, I've
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learned that mindset is absolutely everything.
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It is so keen and you can be nervous and successful and it is
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so liberating to learn that. It's so freeing to know that
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that more experience doesn't necessarily make you a better
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candidate. That, you know, I just came to
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the realization that I spend another five years or more like
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10 years getting experience and still not feel ready.
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That it's just time to jump in and do it.
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And trust myself to believe in myself that I've done hard
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things before and I can do hard things again.
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And you know, even if I'm not successful the first time you
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don't, if I don't get the first job, I play for whatever I'll be
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successful if I trust myself. So that was really what I got
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from this group that's you know it really motivated me to start
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applying for jobs. Jobs and I don't think I would
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have applied for jobs yet. If it wasn't for this group, I'm
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really don't think I would have it just gave me that extra push
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that extra motivation. Yeah.
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And what would you say because that is what I hear from a lot
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of people like, okay, wait I say, what's your timeline for
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applying and they're like, well probably a year or two because I
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want to feel better about this or this or time or experience.
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Like what would you say to those people who kind of have that in
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their mind right now listening to this?
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Mindset is everything. Mine says absolutely everything.
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And I can recall like a year ago like when I first really
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started, considering flight in her saying, I had a lunch,
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really close friend who was a firefighter and he told me to
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just start applying just start doing it.
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And firefighting is similar in a way to flight nursing, and that
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there's a lot of applicants for generally, not that many
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positions. And I just like, really In my
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experience, like I'm not ready. Like do I have enough experience
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and, you know, through that from, from now, from then to,
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now, I can really see. It's not about experiences about
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mindset and I've seen that other people like that mindset, like I
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can do this, just go for it. And I finally threw this group
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started believing myself that more experience is not going to
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make me a better flight nurse really that at this point.
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I mean, I have EMS experience, lots of hummus experience VR
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experience. I see you.
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And it's Critical Care transport experience.
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And it's not about experienced about trusting yourself.
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It's about knowing that regardless of how much
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experience you have, they're going to be situations that you
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face that. It's the first time you've
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experienced it, you know, you're going to feel uncomfortable but
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you know that even in these stressful situations that you
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can trust your gut and that you can get through it.
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So, I think for me, just that belief that I've done hard
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things before starting in the ER, was incredibly hard.
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And then starting as a brand new nurse in the, ER, is it's a hard
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place to start and then covid happened.
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I'd only been a nurse for a year, but I know that if I can
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get through that, if I can get through that challenge, I can
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get through anything and in other challenges, too.
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So it's just that, that mindset that belief in yourself.
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Trusting yourself. Yeah.
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And we talked about this yesterday, They are a little bit
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too Ryan that because you worked so much on this before.
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When you step into this role as a flight nurse, when you get the
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job, it's going to be easier for you to overcome that part of you
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already because I do think a lot of people think.
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Well once I get there, it's just going to be great.
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The grass is greener. On the other side, I'm going to
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have the job finally. But that's not necessarily the
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truth, the actual work begins after you get the job and so
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because Able to like bring your mind there already that hurdle
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for you is going to be less for you to climb.
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Once you get there what have been like your thoughts on that
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since we talked about that yesterday?
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Yeah, I can absolutely see that. I mean, I think this application
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process going through this. It's really a test of how much
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you want it because flight is I'm really going to know.
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It's unlike any other job. It's similar to EMS but it's
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different, it's very unique. It's very, it requires a lot of
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sacrifices, it's very different from other jobs, so I had to in
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my taste like I had to consider moving relocating and just
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spending time away from family and And there's a lot of things
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I had to consider and I know I had to go there.
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I know this is hard process and I know becoming a flight nurse
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has a very hard process. Everyone has told me that, but I
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had to leave in myself that, that I can do it.
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And that I faced our jumps before and that I absolutely can
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do it. And, you know, I know, it's just
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a matter of time until I get hired.
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I think it would be very soon, but I know that when that
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happened when I get that opportunity, I'll be able to do
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it, it's really all about mindset.
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And, you know, I felt going into the process that I was a strong
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applicant on paper, but I just yeah, I question.
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If I can do it and now I even though I haven't started yet, I
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don't push it anymore. Yeah, because I know I believe
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in myself that if I can get this far that I can be an awesome
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planers, there's no doubt about it.
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Yeah, I'd love for you guys to share.
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Like we talked a lot about mindset and thought work.
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I'd love for you guys to share some thoughts that have really
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like helped you re ground yourself in this.
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Process of prepping and really applying and going through all
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of the things that you guys have gone through.
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Like what were some of the thoughts that our listeners can
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glean on or borrow or take for themselves at you kind of went
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back to My thoughts have changed a little bit throughout the
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process. Like, my first thought when I
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first started this, I can do this.
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I know I can do it, you know, and then I thought was, you
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know, my time will come and then now my thighs.
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I know I'm going to get there when that's going to be, I'm not
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sure. But I know that I will be there
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and so your thoughts will kind of change throughout the
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process, and that's fine. But then also just getting used
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to being uncomfortable, getting comfortable with being
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uncomfortable. Because I've applied for three
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different positions. When the first one said will get
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back with me when you have your EMT.
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The second one was like, get back with me when you have your
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Advanced EMT. The third one, I'm pop word
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said. Sorry, you know, we gave this to
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an internal applicant is and just like, constantly reaching
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out to people being denied, it's going to happen and just being
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being okay with being uncomfortable because that's
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part of the process. Yeah.
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And I love that because, you know, I think a lot of people
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and I think there's probably probably times you felt like
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that too. We're either they get a no, or
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they get stopped because someone gets filled it or like those
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things that happen to you and then people make that mean
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something about themselves and that's what stops them from
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continuing on in the race. Exactly, I could have chosen to
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stop and say, I'm not good enough but I said, okay my jobs
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out there somewhere. I just have to go get it.
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Yeah, yeah, thank you for sharing that the great thoughts
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and I love that you mentioned like throughout the process.
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What your go-to thought is going to change, it has to, it has to
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evolve as you're evolving in it. Absolutely.
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I think that I was going to say something similar to Bailey.
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Cuz yeah, my thoughts have changed.
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Then the beginning, all the way to now, and they just
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consistently changed for him. Like, I do hard things to
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everything. I've done has gotten me here.
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I can accomplish anything and it really is I think it's what
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you're aligning with that, that point in time.
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What's going on? Like, not just in regards to
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flight, but in your life is gonna affect your thought, Alan,
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so mindset, my definitely has changed, but all all had been
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helpful for me. Yeah.
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For sure. Yeah.
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And I can actor that this can be a discouraging process.
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I remember like reaching one point where I become really
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comfortable to getting hurt. Come like really close to
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getting my first job. My first, I'd gone through this
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application process and I know I come very close to getting the
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job. But in the end I didn't get it
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and I got the nicest rejection letter.
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I've ever gotten but I didn't get the job.
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So It was discouraging because I had applied for multiple jobs
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and I had been the only one that had reached out to me and I'd
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reached out to recruiters and heard, absolutely nothing and I
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just really started questioning if I did get hired.
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And then another company reach out to me.
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So and I just had a second interview of them yesterday so
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it was it was very can be, so discouraging and your thoughts
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definitely change throughout the process.
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It's yeah, it's definitely it's all about mindset, really,
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because it's so hard when you hear that silence.
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Yeah, and I'm curious for you Ryan since you did that first
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interview and now, looking back at it from now, interviewing,
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with another company and feeling really good about it.
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What did actually having that first interview teach you?
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I think, overall, my first interview was over all good, it
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was overall, good interview, but in that interview, the real me
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didn't come out. The, real Ryan didn't come out
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and in the interview I had yesterday, I thought the real
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Ryan came out. The real me, I was, it was, it
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was just very real, like what I value and some of the person I
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am it really, really came out. So I love that and I'd love for
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you guys to touch on because I literally just got off of the
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phone with someone who's interested in prepping for
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flight. But he told me, you know, I
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don't want to put an application because I'm nervous to talk
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about my time and my experience in the interview and My
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Philosophy is very different and we talked about this a lot in
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prepping for it when it when we're in the interview, they've
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already brought you there because of your time and
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experience. So what we want to show them is
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Who we are, what we value, what kind of team player that we are.
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So, I'm interested on like now that you guys have gone through
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all that the prep for it, what are your thoughts about time and
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experience? Because that's the number one
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thing objection. I hear from people about
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applying So, I think that I can speak to that, like, I think I
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came in not with this with this group because I have been having
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one-on-one sessions with Janessa prior, but I feel like I came in
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very avoid it. Like, this is what I want to do.
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This is what my goal is, flight nursing, but I don't feel like
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I'm ready. I need all of these things.
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I went to EMT school. Janessa was like, you don't
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really have to get your paramedic, but if that's what
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you want to do is like, no, I'm gonna do it.
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And I felt like I did all these things and I'm not upset that I
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did it because I have my paramedic now and ever.
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But I feel like I am at the end of things.
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Maybe it was really avoiding, because I wasn't satisfied with
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who I was and my skills, even though that was plenty enough.
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And I think that coming into this, I really learned that
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like, it doesn't, it really doesn't matter.
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Like if you could have like less than the time that they are
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really prefering, but it's like a preference, it doesn't
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necessarily mean that Going to take you out of the loop or who
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might get that position or not. And if you're a great nurse
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they're going to be able to tell that by you and your answers and
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how you project yourself. Like you can tell somebody who's
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authentic and who's genuine and you can read you can read
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somebody really well when they're being, you know, their
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true selves. And if somebody I feel like
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companies maybe they're looking for somebody who is teachable
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with a little bit less experience but They have a great
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attitude, you know, and you can tell that they have a great
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attitude, so they're going to be someone, they're going to be
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able to be taught well and and be a good fit for the company.
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So I think that, I probably was one of those people that was
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like, no, no, I don't have enough experience, because I
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think I've had very many conversations with you.
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Like you really don't need. All of this is if this is really
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necessary like no, it's absolutely necessary.
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I need to do this because I they're not going to hire me.
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Like I want to present myself a certain way but as We've gone to
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the group and through our one-on-one sessions like I
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really become more. Okay.
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With myself more confident like I am a great nurse and even like
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I have three coming on three years of I see you experience
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and they say a company needs five like I feel like I'm going
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to still be applying to those companies because I myself am
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worth it. And I know that that the love me
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because I'm awesome. You love that realization.
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Nick. Yeah, I don't think you'll ever
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feel 100% ready and you just have to go for it and it's okay
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to doubt yourself. But with time, I feel I've
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learned to trust myself and learn to step into my weaknesses
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and my strengths. And that's really important.
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So remember the first job that I interviewed for I actually I
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have four years of nursing experience and they required
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five, but they still interviewed me, they still brought me to the
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Table and even though it ultimately didn't get that job,
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I still consider that a win in a way.
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It is a win. So I'm just like, I was
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surprised like that the fact that they required five years
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experience and I know I didn't have it.
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The fact that even apply for the job surprise me because I
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finally just trust myself. Like okay, so I have a really
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unique mix of experience pric. You Critical Care transport, 10
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years of EMS, maybe the interviewing able to consider me
23:42
and I'm so glad I did even though I didn't ultimately We
23:45
get the job. I'm so glad that I trust myself
23:49
in plaid. Yeah, I love that because II,
23:53
you know, I teach this and I taught this in the group is, I
23:56
want you guys to treat applications and companies like
23:58
speed dating. We would never just be like,
24:01
that's the person we want to marry by just dating one person.
24:03
I mean, I know some people do that, so, I'm not saying it's
24:06
impossible, but for flight. I like to compare it to that
24:09
like we want to speed date a bunch of people.
24:11
We want to speed date a bunch of companies.
24:13
We're not saying yes to them by applying and we're not Saying
24:15
yes by even showing up at the interview we're just trying to
24:18
see if we're a good fit for them and if they're a good fit for us
24:21
and US allowing ourselves to be able to put ourselves out there,
24:24
both in applications and interviews, gives us a better
24:27
idea of what we really want. And often times our number one
24:31
is and what we choose even if they offer it to us, sometimes
24:34
it's our number 5. And so that is what I recommend
24:37
and I love that you guys have been open to being able to do
24:40
that. Both in applications and
24:41
interviews. One other question I want to ask
24:45
Ask you guys is now going through the whole process of
24:48
prepping and everything that comes along with it, the
24:52
psychosocial questions, and the case scenarios.
24:54
And just the mindset that we really worked on in the group,
24:57
what's been easier than you? Thought it would be and what's
25:00
been harder than you thought it would be.
25:04
I honestly thought this scenario situations that we went through
25:08
was easier than I thought it was going to be a, you would say,
25:12
okay, next week we're doing scenarios and I was getting so
25:15
nervous. But when it actually came to us,
25:17
like, I know this stuff, I know how to take care of patients.
25:20
I've done this for five years, like I know what I'm doing so
25:24
that was easier than I thought it was going to be.
25:27
Yeah. And I'm curious for you Bailey.
25:30
Like how do you feel now stepping to an interview doing a
25:32
case scenario? Not When it's going to be.
25:36
I feel more confident now that we did some examples with the
25:40
coaching so just going back to my ABCs like know what I'm
25:44
supposed to do. I mean, I feel like I can just
25:47
pull from my own experiences with patients and just go
25:51
through the scenarios as if I was you know taking care of this
25:53
person in the ER like I do every day.
25:56
Yeah. Yeah.
25:58
And you rocked it. You are the game you're not
26:00
Karis. They're just honestly asking
26:02
like what would you do with this patient?
26:05
Yes. And And what's funny about that
26:07
is that, you know, I do hear that all the all the time as I'm
26:10
coaching people because they're like, well, I'm afraid my
26:12
patients going to die and then I say, well, then what?
26:15
And they're like, well, then I would back them.
26:17
And then I'm like, and then what?
26:18
And then they're like, then we'd start CPR, and then I'd say,
26:20
then went, and it's like, we know what to do.
26:23
Even the worst case scenario, our patient codes, we know what
26:26
to do. And so it's just like stepping
26:28
bag zooming out looking at the bigger picture, and I really do
26:33
hope that you feel confident now going into it.
26:35
Case scenario for an interview because you did really.
26:37
Well you are a guinea pig for our first one.
26:40
So you did really was we were going through those.
26:43
Thank you. I think the hardest thing has
26:48
been like getting dealing with our own my own brain, at least
26:55
for me like Like my brain wants to put the wise that the butts
27:02
than anything - and it's like actually being being able to
27:05
push it away and like ignore it. I think that's really been like
27:09
the hardest thing is dealing with your own self place for me.
27:14
Yeah, because myself is crazy, my head, what's been like one of
27:19
the easier things that, that surprised you about anything
27:23
that you've learned. Um, I think that the probably
27:30
the easiest thing for me has been the ability to be
27:33
vulnerable and open about how I'm feeling and what I think
27:38
about myself or my skill set or anything like really that just
27:43
even talking in the group. I think that's been probably
27:45
been me. The easiest is been letting my
27:48
guard down and just being open to the whole process and
27:52
connecting with people. Yeah.
27:56
Yeah. Yeah I can Echo that I was a
28:03
little nervous about the case scenarios to I have EMS
28:07
experience. I'm kind of used to case
28:08
scenarios to some extent but still you never know what
28:11
they're going to ask. And I remember in my first
28:14
interview, they asked some pretty crate just a crazy
28:17
scenario so you just kind of never know but I think it was
28:21
the the scenarios and the interviews in general were
28:23
easier than I was expecting. What was harder was actually
28:28
pushing the send button. I'm from applications.
28:32
So I remember when I submitted my first applications, I felt
28:37
sick to my stomach. Like, I felt bad.
28:39
I felt like, oh my gosh, I could get this job.
28:43
My life could change dramatically.
28:45
Am I ready for this? Like, I really had second
28:48
thoughts. It was so hard to push the send
28:50
button so hard, and there's so much silence in this process to,
28:56
it's really unique. You know, I think we're used to
29:00
Working in nursing, or if we submit an application we hear
29:02
back really quickly. But in Flight, I think of a plan
29:07
for six or seven jobs. I've only heard back from 2001,
29:10
the rest is just silence, so it's just such a like it's that
29:15
that silence is so hard. Yeah and and we talked about
29:20
this like early on to that it is so different like you said,
29:23
especially as nurses who have experienced and are usually used
29:26
to pushing the send button and managers reaching out to us
29:28
right away and I have this philosophy that flight companies
29:32
really want the people who really want it and it's the
29:36
people who are not okay with the silence.
29:38
It's the ones who reach out a little bit more and are kind of
29:41
like, staying on top of their own process and not letting the
29:44
nose or the silence mean, anything about them.
29:46
Those are the ones that the ultimately they want.
29:48
What to bring to the interviews. And so my question for you guys
29:54
is or I guess specifically for you Ryan since you have been
29:57
brought to the interview now how do you feel like the group
30:01
prepped you to actually sit in that seat?
30:07
I feel the group overall was great preparation because I
30:12
could really focus on thinking about what's important for
30:15
flights. So, I know in group in the our
30:18
group, we talked about, you know, framing questions and this
30:22
is important in flight because just just thinking about that,
30:24
bringing it all back and it just really is important for that
30:27
mindset for, you know, whatever case scenario, whatever
30:32
interview question just thinking, like, how does this
30:33
apply to flight? Why are there asking that?
30:36
How is this apple to my past experience?
30:39
How can I apply this? In my case to work in the
30:40
ambulance or to working in the ER or the ICU?
30:45
So I think that that was just really critical being able to
30:50
understand what's important in flights and Like all the
30:56
questions we talked about in everything we talked about in
31:00
group, all the practice questions and everything was
31:02
great preparation. In the case study the case
31:05
scenario was great preparation to because I know if I hadn't
31:10
done that preparation I would have missed things but going
31:12
into it I was very confident. I knew like what to say and I
31:19
knew what was important. I knew what they were looking
31:21
for. Yeah.
31:22
So think that was really key. And, and Vicki and Bailey.
31:28
I'm curious for you guys because you will be sitting in those
31:32
seats those interview seats. How do you feel about the
31:35
preparation and what are your thoughts?
31:37
Now, when you do go into those interviews, I just want to try
31:41
to show who I am as a person and because they can read my
31:45
experience on the resume right in front of them.
31:48
I don't need to explain, you know, everything that I've done
31:51
or all my certifications because they can see that I just Want to
31:54
try to show who I am as a person, not with generic answers
31:59
but like, just, I want them to really get to know who I am and
32:03
just Ryan, giving his examples of his experiences with the
32:06
interview has been helpful to me.
32:08
It lets me know a little bit more what to expect.
32:10
So I think Ryan for sharing his experiences with them.
32:13
Yeah, it's funny because in the group, you guys think that I'm
32:16
going to be the one giving you guys value.
32:19
But the group is, you guys are all giving each other value.
32:22
Absolutely. And I've seen everybody in the
32:24
group, Just grow more confident. Yeah.
32:29
Confidence is everything right? Yeah, but that do whatever.
32:34
Absolutely Vicki. What's like your thoughts about
32:38
this group and the content? And the things that we talked
32:41
about for prepping, like, how are you now feeling about?
32:43
When you get the opportunity to sit in that seat?
32:46
I think that when I do sit for an interview, I'll be pretty
32:50
prepared because of the group, you know, not.
32:53
We went over like the scenarios but also, you know, the session
32:56
with Sean that was really helpful.
32:59
Well, you know the tutor to help us like really get the hold of
33:03
what he was teaching at day, which was ventilators and it
33:05
really did help also how to answer the interview questions
33:10
like authentically and not so robotically, it's really
33:15
something that you you work with us on and I think it's helpful
33:19
because it really does show you your answer versus what you
33:22
think they want to hear and it kind of weeds out other
33:25
applicants and shows you as more authentic.
33:28
So I know that whenever I do support Of you are able, I'll be
33:31
ready and, and a title because of, you know, you're working
33:34
with the group. And I also agree with Bailey,
33:36
like I've seen everybody's confidence and demeanors just
33:40
like be very strong and up there, especially Ryan, you
33:44
know, like our session on Wednesday.
33:47
Ryan was like, yeah, I got these, like I have it.
33:50
I was like, yeah. It was awesome and it's been
33:54
great to see. See that from from everybody.
33:58
Yeah, because Ryan, how do you think now looking back on your
34:02
your to interviews with this company?
34:05
Like having that level of competence?
34:07
How do you think that that helped you?
34:12
I think it really just showed me that I can do it.
34:16
And when I do start, this job, when I do become a flight nurse
34:20
that I can do it, I can be successful because I don't know.
34:24
I was able to show them who I really am what I value.
34:29
And really if I can do that under stress in an interview, I
34:34
can do it in the job. I can do that anywhere that that
34:37
potential is there. And, you know, I absolutely
34:41
great Bailey. I think everyone in this group
34:43
has grown in confidence. It's been such a supportive
34:45
group. I've really enjoyed her
34:46
sessions, and I just think it's great.
34:49
It's been great preparation for flight.
34:52
And it just the most important thing though is mindset is
34:54
everything and that's something that I really got from this
34:57
group. It's Sookie, it's not taking
34:59
more classes. It's not doing more things to
35:02
prepare yourself. It's early mindset.
35:04
Yeah, because what I noticed when people come to me, they
35:07
could have them. Minimum amount or 15 to 20 years
35:10
and it's the same thought that they're stuck on.
35:13
And so I wanted to ask you guys for anyway, I'm getting ready to
35:17
start a second cohort. So for anyone who is thinking
35:22
about prepping for flight or joining the next group or just
35:25
like coaching in general, with My Philosophy I know you guys
35:29
had some reservations obviously before we started to what is it
35:33
that you would want to share to those people who are kind of
35:38
nervous? About doing prep for it with me
35:40
because do it, like, just do it invest in yourself because
35:46
that's your biggest investment is yourself and preparing for
35:49
yourself, but whatever, whatever it takes, you know, and when
35:53
you're in a group, the progress is infectious.
35:57
So somebody else's progress is infectious somebody else's
36:00
attitude and them coming stronger within himself, all of
36:04
that is infectious. I feel like I grew stronger and
36:07
more confident. Aunt, when Bailey, who's
36:10
stronger more confident, when Ryan was like, I'm it I was
36:13
like, bro, me too. Like it's great, you know, and I
36:17
think that it's a good good investment in your future career
36:22
and in your current career to like, I think that it's
36:26
definitely something that's been very, very helpful and can only
36:28
benefit you from here forward. So it's definitely, they take
36:33
the leap and just do it. Yeah.
36:39
Next, The Awkward. The silent.
36:42
Don't make a noise. Yeah, I agree with you Vicky.
36:47
Yes, just seeing everybody else's confidence Blossom.
36:52
It just makes you feel like, yes, I can do this too.
36:55
And then also, I think you'll get all the questions that you
36:57
have going into quite answered. But then you may gain something
37:01
out of the experience that you wasn't expecting.
37:04
Like for me, I realized that I need to slow down a little bit
37:07
to make this happen. And that was something that I
37:10
wasn't expecting to get out of the group.
37:12
But it's just a little nugget. I came away with that.
37:14
Has really helped me tremendously.
37:17
Yeah, thanks for sharing that Bailey.
37:21
Yeah, I think what I learned is that this group isn't really
37:25
just about flight nursing. It's about confidence about
37:29
mindsets about so much more. So, you can take these skills
37:33
and apply them to whatever area in your life.
37:36
And I just think everyone's on their own timeline.
37:38
There's things that people need to consider.
37:41
It might not be the right time for, you know, someone to apply
37:45
for everyone's on their own timeline.
37:48
But there's never a perfect The play for flight if you want to
37:52
do it. And I say, if you meet the
37:54
minimum requirements, go for it. No excuses, just go for it.
37:57
If you feel like you want to do this, if you feel like this is a
38:00
good fit, just go for it. And even if you don't get the
38:04
first job or the first few jobs you, apply for you'll learn more
38:08
about yourself in the process and it will be worth it.
38:12
Yeah, I love that. And and this might be a similar
38:15
question for you guys. But when I found life coaching,
38:19
I was like, what is this life coaching thing?
38:22
Like what is this about? But I'm curious because I need
38:26
some work-life balance in my life.
38:27
I'm working these long shifts and I can't leave work at home
38:32
when I'm with my family, and I want that.
38:34
And when I hired my first life coach, like, Amazing how things
38:39
changed for me? So coaching in general?
38:42
I mean like My Philosophy really is a focus on who you are now
38:45
and where you want to be and I'm interested in for you guys.
38:49
Like what were maybe your thoughts about life, coaching me
38:52
for and what have you really learned about it for yourself?
38:55
What have you gotten out of it? I think.
39:00
Okay. So I wanted to answer first
39:02
because I have been working with you for a while, aside from the
39:06
group and I do I had at that time, been a nurse.
39:11
I think. Had been like maybe five years
39:13
and now I'm like, going on eight years.
39:15
So or seven and a half, I don't know.
39:17
But I Was had a situation that happened in my career.
39:23
I lost my job and it made me feel very lack of confidence in
39:28
my skills and who I was as a nurse.
39:30
And I knew that my goal was flight nursing.
39:34
And when this happened to me, I was like, how will I ever get to
39:37
where I want to get to and I came across your Instagram and I
39:42
started following you and all your posts are really like
39:45
resonating with me. They're really speaking to me
39:48
and I didn't even even realize just how much I needed the
39:52
extra, not help but yes help but like boost in my own like
40:00
Confidence and what I already have, you know, that I just my
40:03
brain just push back and was like, you're not worth it, you
40:06
can't do it. Giving me all these reasons why
40:09
I couldn't do what I wanted to do, or even just a simple as
40:13
getting a different job. Other than, you know, flight
40:16
because I had lost my job. And I, when I started working
40:20
with you, I realized so many issues about myself that I was
40:24
doing to myself my brain. You know, like we were very
40:28
uncomfortable, is there any You know, you like to make me
40:32
uncomfortable but it was in those moments.
40:35
But I like learned a lot about myself and it helped me not just
40:41
for my career, but even in my relationship, you know, my
40:45
marriage, and how I handle things in the household, and,
40:49
you know, being a travel nurse as well as it's very difficult
40:52
to be leaving home, and for certain periods of time, and I
40:57
didn't even realize that I really needed so much coaching.
40:59
And now I'm like I don't ever want you to leave, please, so
41:05
done that. Yeah, and I've loved working
41:08
with you to Vicki and it's also the reason why I have my own
41:11
coach every week because we can't get clarity on our own.
41:14
It's, it's really helping us someone sort through our
41:17
thoughts with us and a non-biased way so that we can
41:19
really see it for how it is. Yeah, Shamar Balian Ryan.
41:28
Do you guys have anything that you want to share about that?
41:32
I don't think I really had any expectations because you know,
41:36
have never worked with the last coach before I just kind of
41:40
jumping in and seeing where it goes.
41:42
But I've learned so much about myself, you've asked us hard
41:45
questions like why is she asking me this?
41:47
But you force us to face what it is that we need to face and just
41:53
getting things out of the session that I didn't know that
41:56
I needed. Yeah.
41:57
And I love like even if it was at the end for you to just like
42:00
real life, Is like running at your own pace and actually like
42:03
slowing down is going to help you speed up in the end because
42:06
it really will absolutely 100%. Yeah.
42:10
And just like the realization that you're going to get there.
42:12
No matter what you can do it this way.
42:13
We can do it that way, but this is the way that feels better for
42:16
you. Yes.
42:17
And I didn't know I needed that. Yeah.
42:20
Yeah, awesome. Yeah, and I think the prior to
42:25
starting this group, prior starting coaching I've been
42:28
following Janessa on Instagram for several months and I just I
42:32
really enjoyed this podcast, but I just wondered is life coaching
42:35
for me. Is it worth it?
42:37
Is it really going to help me? And I found it's incredibly
42:40
helpful in putting things into perspective, focusing on your
42:43
goals and really clarifying what's important to you.
42:47
And I think the results all depend on the amount of work,
42:50
the amount of time you're willing to put into the process,
42:52
it's not just attending the sessions, the real work happens
42:56
after the sessions where you really start to think about
42:59
things considered things process things.
43:01
There's so much of that work that happens after the sessions
43:05
and I think that's really where the progress happens, really?
43:08
Yeah, I love that. You said that because that is
43:10
when you can get the most out of it is like putting it to play
43:15
like getting what you came for and Then utilizing it in your
43:18
real life. Like that's how the coaching
43:20
really helps. Last question for you guys.
43:24
Is there a piece of advice that maybe you've gotten along the
43:29
way? That is really helped you get to
43:32
this pivotal moment for you or not.
43:35
Even that maybe even a piece of advice or quote or a thought
43:40
that is going to help you get to where you want to be next.
43:45
I think a piece of advice I would like to give is don't let
43:53
somebody else to find you. Like you are your own person and
43:58
your experiences bring you as much value as a next person, and
44:05
anybody who's trying to say otherwise or sending your way
44:08
is, it's just like a roadblock meant to you to work through,
44:11
you know? So, just don't let anyone to
44:14
find you if On something work towards it and don't listen to
44:17
anything else other than you your brain.
44:20
Telling you, go, go, go, go, go. Until you get to that point, you
44:23
know? Yeah, love that.
44:25
Thanks for sharing that. Honestly black Grand, I've been
44:33
following your Instagram and listen to the podcast and the it
44:36
was one Post in particular that you had posted.
44:39
That made me say, okay, I'm going to do this.
44:41
It was, I don't remember exactly what it said, but it's something
44:45
like if there's not a seat at the table, you create your own,
44:51
something like that, you create your own table.
44:53
So, basically, just Just go after it, you're not going to
44:57
get there. If you don't go after it and
44:59
like Ryan said, it is honestly the hardest part was just
45:02
hitting submit in like starting that first application, but now
45:06
I'm like, oh, I've got this, you know, I felt rejection before
45:08
it's fun. But honestly just getting
45:11
started is the hardest part. So just just do it.
45:13
Just jump in and go for it. Yeah, I love that quote.
45:17
And I like, I don't remember how or when I came up with that, but
45:20
it was like, take a seat at the table or make your own table.
45:23
Yes. And I love Nobody's gonna invite
45:26
you, that's what I said. Nobody's going to invite you to
45:28
the table. You know, take your seat or make
45:30
your own table. I think is what it said.
45:31
Yeah. And that's so true.
45:32
Nobody's gonna baby you along the way you're just going to
45:35
have to do it. And I have applied that like
45:38
thought because I came up with that after finding coaching that
45:41
sometimes we just don't understand the possibilities of
45:44
what are out there for us, because our own thoughts limit
45:47
us. And I love the idea of like, so
45:50
what like make your own table then and that's just like
45:53
stepping into the see that there are millions different ways to
45:57
get there. We don't have to take our seat
45:59
at the table of the table that we want to get at.
46:02
We can just go create our own and there's a possibility in
46:05
that and so I love that you were able to take that and kind of
46:09
apply that for flight for yourself.
46:17
My advice would be allow yourself to feel success.
46:20
Allow yourself to feel rejection, just go there,
46:24
whatever you're feeling. It will allow yourself to feel
46:26
it. I think it's a willingness to be
46:28
vulnerable, which is really critically important.
46:31
So for me, the thought I had is, I've always thought I could get
46:34
through the application process and get hired but I was worried
46:37
like, do I have enough experience?
46:39
Like what if I get fired? What if I put in all this
46:42
effort? All this, you know, do all these
46:45
things and then get So then I went there, I went there.
46:48
Let's say, let's say I'm fired. I was willing to experience that
46:51
and it, you know, I realize. Okay, if that happens.
46:55
Then I will just figure something out.
46:58
I know I can. So I think you just have to be
47:01
willing to identify your fears and just go there and attack
47:04
them. Not not hide from them.
47:06
Yeah, that's really key. I love that as well because I
47:10
think sometimes people think coaching is all about like 0,
47:13
positive, mindset and positive things, but it's actually about
47:16
the opposite being able to hold space for the negative parts of
47:20
it and being able to go there to your worst case scenario and
47:23
feel whatever that is and know that we can take all of those
47:26
things with us. That's what creates confidence
47:29
and knowing that we're going to always figure it out.
47:33
Well I really appreciate you guys being on today.
47:36
Is there anything last minute that we haven't talked about
47:38
that? You guys would like to say or
47:42
talk about right now? Or anybody on the fence, just do
47:46
it getting this obsession with Janessa.
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It'll change your life and your mom set for sure.
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So if you're on the fence about it, just do it love that.
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Thank you Bailey. Thank you.
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Ryan Bailey, Vicki, thank you guys.
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For being a part of this group. I think I got just as much out
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of it as you guys did really, you guys taught me a lot.
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And so I am just like so proud of all of you guys were ever You
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are in your stage. I know, without a doubt without
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a doubt, that every single one of you is going to get hired.
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And I know when you get in those seats, the companies are going
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to want you. And so definitely keep me posted
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or you guys are on your journey. I want to know I'm a research
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for you forever and I really appreciate the candid
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conversations and the vulnerability that you guys have
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been able to have throughout the group and both on this podcast
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because I believe something that you said today is going to hit
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someone and it's going to hit them in a way that they need it.
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So I really appreciate that and I appreciate everything that you
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guys do and Healthcare to it. It's hard to be a nurse.
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It's hard to be an, ER, nurse. It's hard to be an ICU, nurse
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her to be, a critical care nurse.
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It's hard to be a nurse right now in this day and age.
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So I appreciate everything that you guys continue to do for
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healthcare as well. Thanks for being on and we will
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chat with you guys soon. Thanks to Natha.
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I thank you. If anything spoke to you in this
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episode and you are ready to start prepping for flight, reach
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out to me on Instagram and we can chat about the next upcoming
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flight group, that's going to be starting in June.
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I have ongoing flight prep groups going on year round, but
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I still have open spots for this.
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Enrollment session come be a part of the group that is going
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to be stepping into applications and interviews, more confidently
49:37
with less overwhelming. He's I'm going to show you
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everything that you need to know that's it for this week and I
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will chat. With all of you guys next week.
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Bye. With all of you guys next week.
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Bye.