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Unveiling the Legacy of Bibb Graves: A Forgotten Football Legend · Sports History Network

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  we're
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  history
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  our
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  P.
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  tells
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  us
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  a
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  story
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  of
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  a
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  man
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  named
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  Bib
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  Graves,
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  a
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  football
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  legend
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  you
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  not
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  much
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  morbid,
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  but.
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  But
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  very
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  befitting
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  as
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  you
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  segue
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  into
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  this
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  recent
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  tidbit
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  of
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  yours
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  that
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  you
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  wrote.
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  It's
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  titled
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  Bib
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  Graves,
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  founding
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  member
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  of
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  Alabama
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  and
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  Texas
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  Football.
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  That's
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  a
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  big
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  statement
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  there.
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  Tim,
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  what
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  can
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  you
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  tell
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  us
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  about
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  Bib
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  Graves?
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  So
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  I've
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  never
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  met
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  a
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  guy
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  named
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  Biblical
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  before,
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  but
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  that
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  was
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  his
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  mother's
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  maiden
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  name,
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  family
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  name,
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  so
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  that
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  I've.
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  Been
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  told
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  I
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  should
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  wear
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  a
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  bib
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  before.
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  Yeah,
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  well,
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  maybe
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  you
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  should,
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  especially
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  as
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  I
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  get
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  older
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  here.
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  I've
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  been
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  told
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  that
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  many
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  times.
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  Yeah.
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  So
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  this
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  guy,
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  you
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  know,
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  he
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  played
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  a
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  long
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  time
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  ago.
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  And,
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  and
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  I,
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  you
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  know,
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  a
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  little
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  while
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  back,
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  I
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  did
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  a.
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  I
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  did
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  a
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  story
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  based
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  on
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  four
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  images
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  from
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  the
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  first
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  year
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  of
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  Auburn
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  football.
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  So
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  it
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  was
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  their
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  first
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  year
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  of
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  playing
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  was
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  1892
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  and
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  into
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  1893,
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  because
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  the
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  last
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  game
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  of
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  that
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  season
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  was
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  played
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  in
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  February
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  of
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  93
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  when
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  they
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  played
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  Alabama.
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  And
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  so
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  as
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  it
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  turned
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  out,
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  you
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  know,
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  a
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  story
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  is
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  about
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  you
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  know,
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  reviewing
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  these
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  images
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  that
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  a
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  collector
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  friend,
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  John
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  Genantonio,
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  you
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  know,
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  had
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  and
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  allowed
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  me
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  to.
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  To
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  use.
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  So,
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  you
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  know,
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  there
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  are
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  people
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  out
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  there,
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  you
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  know,
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  if
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  you
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  go,
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  if
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  you're
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  into
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  the
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  history
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  of
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  teams,
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  you
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  might
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  know
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  some
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  of
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  the
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  players
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  who
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  played
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  in
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  the
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  first
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  year
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  that
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  Yale
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  played
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  or
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  the
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  first
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  year
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  that
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  Harvard
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  or
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  Princeton
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  played.
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  Typically,
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  I
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  would
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  guess
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  most
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  people
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  have
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  no
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  idea,
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  you
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  know,
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  who
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  was
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  on
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  the,
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  you
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  know,
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  the
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  first
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  year
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  of
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  their
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  favorite
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  team.
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  You
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  know,
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  even
• 3:49
  the
• 3:49
  pro
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  teams,
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  you
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  know,
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  people
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  probably
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  don't
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  know,
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  but
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  so
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  every
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  team
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  had
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  a
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  first
• 3:56
  team.
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  And
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  in
• 3:58
  the
• 3:59
  case
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  of
• 3:59
  Bib
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  Graves,
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  he
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  was
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  on
• 4:01
  the
• 4:01
  first
• 4:02
  team
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  for
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  two
• 4:04
  pretty
• 4:04
  storied
• 4:04
  programs.
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  So
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  he
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  ended
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  up.
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  He's
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  kind
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  of
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  a
• 4:09
  campus
• 4:09
  leader
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  sort
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  of
• 4:10
  guy.
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  His
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  family
• 4:11
  was
• 4:11
  in
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  politics,
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  and
• 4:13
  his,
• 4:13
  you
• 4:13
  know,
• 4:13
  like,
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  his
• 4:14
  grandfather
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  and
• 4:15
  his
• 4:15
  great
• 4:15
  grandfather
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  had
• 4:16
  been
• 4:17
  governors
• 4:17
  of
• 4:17
  Alabama,
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  and
• 4:20
  he
• 4:20
  ended
• 4:20
  up
• 4:20
  becoming
• 4:21
  twice
• 4:21
  elected
• 4:22
  governor
• 4:22
  of
• 4:22
  Alabama
• 4:23
  himself.
• 4:24
  But
• 4:24
  so
• 4:25
  he
• 4:25
  goes
• 4:25
  to.
• 4:25
  He
• 4:26
  goes
• 4:26
  to
• 4:26
  Alabama.
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  So
• 4:28
  he's
• 4:28
  on
• 4:28
  the
• 4:28
  other
• 4:28
  team,
• 4:29
  not
• 4:29
  on
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  Auburn
• 4:30
  team,
• 4:30
  but
• 4:31
  he
• 4:31
  plays
• 4:31
  in
• 4:31
  the
• 4:31
  first
• 4:32
  Iron
• 4:32
  bowl
• 4:32
  in
• 4:32
  February
• 4:33
  1993.
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  You
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  know,
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  but
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  he
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  was
• 4:36
  like.
• 4:36
  He
• 4:37
  was
• 4:37
  a
• 4:37
  substitute,
• 4:37
  you
• 4:38
  know,
• 4:38
  he
• 4:38
  was
• 4:39
  campus
• 4:39
  leader.
• 4:39
  He's
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  one
• 4:40
  of
• 4:40
  the
• 4:40
  captains
• 4:40
  in
• 4:41
  the
• 4:41
  corps
• 4:41
  of
• 4:41
  cadets
• 4:42
  at
• 4:43
  Alabama
• 4:43
  that
• 4:44
  year.
• 4:45
  You
• 4:45
  know,
• 4:45
  just
• 4:45
  kind
• 4:45
  of
• 4:45
  a
• 4:45
  prominent
• 4:46
  guy.
• 4:47
  And
• 4:47
  so
• 4:48
  he
• 4:48
  graduates
• 4:50
  after
• 4:50
  lettering
• 4:51
  at
• 4:51
  Alabama.
• 4:53
  So
• 4:53
  he
• 4:53
  goes.
• 4:54
  After
• 4:55
  the
• 4:55
  summer,
• 4:55
  he
• 4:55
  goes
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  Austin,
• 4:56
  Texas,
• 4:57
  and
• 4:57
  he
• 4:58
  enrolls
• 4:58
  at
• 4:58
  University
• 4:59
  of
• 4:59
  Texas
• 4:59
  Law
• 4:59
  School.
• 5:01
  Well,
• 5:01
  back
• 5:01
  then,
• 5:01
  you
• 5:01
  know,
• 5:01
  the
• 5:02
  whole
• 5:02
  eligible,
• 5:02
  who's
• 5:03
  eligible
• 5:03
  and
• 5:03
  who
• 5:03
  isn't
• 5:04
  and
• 5:04
  can
• 5:04
  graduate
• 5:05
  students
• 5:05
  play
• 5:05
  and
• 5:06
  professional
• 5:06
  students
• 5:06
  play,
• 5:07
  blah,
• 5:07
  blah,
• 5:07
  blah.
• 5:08
  You
• 5:08
  know,
• 5:08
  none
• 5:08
  of
• 5:08
  that
• 5:08
  was
• 5:09
  really
• 5:09
  very
• 5:09
  well
• 5:10
  defined,
• 5:10
  especially
• 5:10
  at
• 5:11
  a
• 5:11
  place
• 5:11
  like
• 5:11
  Texas,
• 5:12
  which
• 5:12
  was
• 5:12
  just
• 5:12
  starting
• 5:12
  a
• 5:13
  program.
• 5:14
  And
• 5:14
  so
• 5:15
  he
• 5:15
  enrolls
• 5:16
  in
• 5:16
  law
• 5:16
  school
• 5:16
  and
• 5:17
  finds
• 5:17
  out
• 5:18
  that
• 5:18
  they're
• 5:18
  starting
• 5:18
  a
• 5:19
  football
• 5:19
  team.
• 5:21
  So
• 5:22
  he
• 5:22
  raises
• 5:22
  his
• 5:22
  hand
• 5:22
  and
• 5:22
  says,
• 5:23
  I'm,
• 5:23
  you
• 5:23
  know,
• 5:24
  I
• 5:24
  played
• 5:25
  at
• 5:25
  Alabama.
• 5:25
  I
• 5:26
  know
• 5:26
  how
• 5:26
  to
• 5:26
  play
• 5:26
  this
• 5:26
  game.
• 5:27
  So
• 5:28
  he
• 5:28
  joins
• 5:28
  the
• 5:28
  team.
• 5:29
  And,
• 5:29
  you
• 5:30
  know,
• 5:30
  he
• 5:31
  was
• 5:31
  a
• 5:31
  sub
• 5:31
  at
• 5:31
  Texas,
• 5:32
  too.
• 5:32
  You
• 5:32
  know,
• 5:32
  I
• 5:33
  have
• 5:33
  no
• 5:33
  idea
• 5:33
  if
• 5:33
  it
• 5:33
  was
• 5:34
  because
• 5:34
  he
• 5:34
  just
• 5:34
  wasn't
• 5:35
  that
• 5:35
  good
• 5:36
  or
• 5:36
  because
• 5:36
  he
• 5:37
  didn't
• 5:37
  have
• 5:37
  the
• 5:37
  time
• 5:37
  to.
• 5:38
  To
• 5:38
  put
• 5:38
  in
• 5:39
  or,
• 5:39
  you
• 5:39
  know,
• 5:40
  whatever
• 5:40
  it
• 5:40
  may
• 5:40
  have
• 5:40
  been.
• 5:41
  But
• 5:41
  he
• 5:41
  was.
• 5:42
  He's
• 5:42
  listed
• 5:43
  several
• 5:43
  times
• 5:45
  in
• 5:45
  the
• 5:45
  game
• 5:45
  rosters
• 5:46
  or
• 5:46
  in
• 5:46
  the
• 5:46
  previews
• 5:47
  of
• 5:47
  the
• 5:47
  games
• 5:47
  as
• 5:48
  being
• 5:48
  a
• 5:48
  substitute.
• 5:49
  I'm
• 5:49
  not
• 5:50
  sure
• 5:50
  he
• 5:51
  ever
• 5:51
  got
• 5:51
  into
• 5:51
  a
• 5:52
  game.
• 5:53
  And
• 5:54
  I
• 5:54
  should
• 5:54
  say
• 5:54
  that
• 5:55
  Jonathan
• 5:56
  Wells,
• 5:56
  who
• 5:57
  writes
• 5:57
  a
• 5:58
  site
• 5:58
  called
• 5:58
  Journey
• 5:59
  Through
• 5:59
  Texas
• 6:00
  and
• 6:00
  Longhorn
• 6:01
  History,
• 6:02
  he
• 6:02
  had
• 6:02
  read
• 6:02
  my
• 6:02
  story
• 6:03
  about
• 6:03
  the
• 6:03
  Auburn,
• 6:04
  Alabama
• 6:05
  stuff,
• 6:05
  and
• 6:05
  he
• 6:05
  said,
• 6:05
  hey,
• 6:06
  by
• 6:06
  the
• 6:06
  way,
• 6:07
  did
• 6:07
  you
• 6:07
  know
• 6:07
  this
• 6:08
  guy
• 6:08
  Bib
• 6:08
  Graves,
• 6:09
  you
• 6:10
  know,
• 6:10
  played
• 6:10
  at
• 6:10
  both
• 6:10
  schools?
• 6:11
  Because
• 6:12
  he
• 6:12
  had.
• 6:12
  He'd
• 6:12
  written
• 6:12
  that.
• 6:13
  He'd
• 6:13
  written
• 6:13
  a
• 6:13
  story
• 6:13
  about
• 6:14
  Texas's
• 6:15
  first
• 6:15
  team
• 6:16
  and
• 6:16
  who
• 6:16
  the
• 6:17
  members
• 6:17
  were.
• 6:18
  So,
• 6:18
  you
• 6:18
  know,
• 6:18
  he
• 6:18
  was
• 6:19
  aware
• 6:19
  of
• 6:19
  it.
• 6:19
  But.
• 6:21
  And
• 6:21
  so
• 6:22
  anyways,
• 6:23
  he.
• 6:24
  He
• 6:24
  let
• 6:24
  me
• 6:25
  know
• 6:25
  about
• 6:25
  it.
• 6:25
  And
• 6:25
  so
• 6:25
  I
• 6:25
  said,
• 6:26
  hey,
• 6:26
  you
• 6:26
  know,
• 6:26
  you
• 6:26
  mind
• 6:27
  if
• 6:27
  I
• 6:27
  write
• 6:27
  an
• 6:27
  article
• 6:27
  about,
• 6:28
  you
• 6:28
  know,
• 6:28
  this
• 6:29
  guy?
• 6:31
  So
• 6:31
  anyways,
• 6:32
  so
• 6:33
  that's
• 6:33
  what
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  did.
• 6:34
  And.
• 6:35
  But,
• 6:35
  you
• 6:35
  know,
• 6:36
  he
• 6:36
  ended
• 6:36
  up.
• 6:36
  The
• 6:37
  funny
• 6:37
  thing
• 6:37
  is
• 6:37
  he
• 6:37
  Stayed
• 6:38
  at
• 6:38
  Texas
• 6:38
  for
• 6:38
  one
• 6:38
  year.
• 6:39
  Then
• 6:39
  he
• 6:39
  transfers
• 6:39
  to
• 6:40
  Yale.
• 6:40
  I
• 6:41
  did.
• 6:41
  And
• 6:42
  he
• 6:42
  finished
• 6:42
  law
• 6:42
  school
• 6:43
  there
• 6:43
  and,
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  know,
• 6:43
  did
• 6:44
  very
• 6:44
  well
• 6:44
  there.
• 6:46
  I
• 6:46
  looked
• 6:46
  to
• 6:47
  see
• 6:47
  if
• 6:47
  there
• 6:47
  was
• 6:47
  any
• 6:47
  evidence
• 6:48
  of
• 6:48
  him,
• 6:48
  you
• 6:49
  know,
• 6:49
  playing,
• 6:49
  even
• 6:49
  scrimmaging
• 6:50
  or
• 6:50
  anything
• 6:50
  at
• 6:51
  Yale.
• 6:51
  No
• 6:51
  evidence
• 6:52
  of
• 6:52
  that.
• 6:53
  That
• 6:53
  would
• 6:53
  have
• 6:53
  been
• 6:54
  Walter
• 6:54
  Camp
• 6:54
  era,
• 6:55
  you
• 6:55
  know.
• 6:56
  Yeah,
• 6:56
  well,
• 6:57
  he
• 6:57
  would
• 6:57
  have
• 6:57
  been.
• 6:58
  Camp
• 6:58
  would
• 6:58
  have
• 6:58
  certainly
• 6:59
  been.
• 6:59
  Camp
• 7:00
  was
• 7:00
  done
• 7:00
  playing
• 7:01
  by
• 7:01
  then,
• 7:02
  but
• 7:02
  he
• 7:03
  just
• 7:03
  by
• 7:03
  like
• 7:04
  a
• 7:04
  year.
• 7:04
  Because
• 7:04
  he
• 7:04
  played
• 7:05
  like
• 7:05
  six
• 7:05
  years.
• 7:06
  Right.
• 7:06
  And.
• 7:08
  But
• 7:08
  he
• 7:08
  would
• 7:08
  have
• 7:08
  been
• 7:08
  around
• 7:08
  the
• 7:09
  program
• 7:09
  certainly.
• 7:10
  You
• 7:10
  know,
• 7:11
  though
• 7:11
  he
• 7:12
  went
• 7:12
  out
• 7:12
  to,
• 7:12
  he
• 7:12
  went
• 7:13
  out
• 7:13
  to
• 7:13
  Stanford
• 7:13
  somewhere.
• 7:14
  I
• 7:14
  think
• 7:14
  that
• 7:15
  was
• 7:15
  like
• 7:15
  late
• 7:15
  1890s,
• 7:16
  I'm
• 7:16
  not
• 7:17
  mistaken.
• 7:19
  So
• 7:19
  anyways,
• 7:22
  so
• 7:22
  then
• 7:22
  he
• 7:22
  goes
• 7:22
  back
• 7:22
  to,
• 7:23
  you
• 7:23
  know,
• 7:23
  Bama
• 7:24
  and
• 7:25
  you
• 7:25
  know,
• 7:25
  becomes
• 7:25
  a,
• 7:26
  you
• 7:27
  know,
• 7:27
  I
• 7:27
  think
• 7:27
  kind
• 7:27
  of
• 7:28
  a
• 7:28
  well
• 7:28
  known
• 7:28
  lawyer
• 7:28
  in
• 7:29
  Montgomery
• 7:29
  and
• 7:31
  is
• 7:31
  involved
• 7:32
  in
• 7:32
  the
• 7:33
  Alabama
• 7:33
  militia
• 7:35
  and
• 7:35
  um,
• 7:38
  as
• 7:38
  a
• 7:38
  result
• 7:38
  he
• 7:38
  ends
• 7:39
  up,
• 7:39
  you
• 7:39
  know,
• 7:40
  in
• 7:41
  a,
• 7:41
  you
• 7:42
  know,
• 7:42
  field
• 7:42
  artillery
• 7:42
  unit
• 7:43
  in
• 7:43
  World
• 7:43
  War
• 7:43
  I.
• 7:43
  So
• 7:43
  he's
• 7:44
  over
• 7:44
  in
• 7:44
  France,
• 7:46
  comes
• 7:46
  back
• 7:46
  and
• 7:47
  in
• 7:47
  the,
• 7:49
  at
• 7:49
  one
• 7:49
  point
• 7:49
  in
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  mid.
• 7:51
  They
• 7:51
  were
• 7:51
  in
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  late
• 7:51
  20s,
• 7:52
  he's
• 7:52
  elected
• 7:53
  governor
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  Alabama.
• 7:55
  And
• 7:55
  then.
• 7:55
  Yeah,
• 7:56
  I
• 7:56
  don't
• 7:56
  know
• 7:56
  if
• 7:56
  they
• 7:56
  had,
• 7:57
  if
• 7:57
  you
• 7:58
  couldn't
• 7:58
  serve
• 7:58
  consecutive
• 7:59
  terms
• 7:59
  at
• 7:59
  the
• 7:59
  time,
• 8:00
  but
• 8:00
  there
• 8:01
  was
• 8:01
  a
• 8:01
  period
• 8:01
  where
• 8:01
  between
• 8:02
  his
• 8:02
  first
• 8:02
  and
• 8:03
  second
• 8:03
  term,
• 8:04
  so
• 8:04
  he
• 8:04
  served
• 8:05
  two
• 8:05
  terms
• 8:05
  as
• 8:05
  governor
• 8:06
  and
• 8:06
  like,
• 8:07
  you
• 8:07
  know,
• 8:07
  he
• 8:07
  was
• 8:08
  the
• 8:08
  governor
• 8:08
  at
• 8:09
  the
• 8:09
  time
• 8:09
  that
• 8:09
  they
• 8:09
  built,
• 8:10
  you
• 8:10
  know,
• 8:10
  Denny
• 8:11
  Stadium,
• 8:11
  which
• 8:12
  is
• 8:12
  now.
• 8:13
  Or
• 8:13
  Denny
• 8:13
  Field,
• 8:13
  which
• 8:14
  is
• 8:14
  now
• 8:14
  Bryant
• 8:15
  Denny,
• 8:16
  you
• 8:17
  know,
• 8:17
  and
• 8:18
  I
• 8:18
  think,
• 8:19
  you
• 8:19
  know,
• 8:19
  partly
• 8:19
  because
• 8:19
  he
• 8:20
  was
• 8:20
  governor
• 8:20
  and
• 8:20
  partly
• 8:20
  probably
• 8:21
  because
• 8:21
  of
• 8:21
  his
• 8:21
  football
• 8:22
  fan,
• 8:22
  you
• 8:22
  know,
• 8:23
  he
• 8:23
  would
• 8:23
  attend
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  fair
• 8:24
  number
• 8:24
  of
• 8:24
  games.
• 8:25
  You
• 8:25
  know,
• 8:25
  he,
• 8:26
  you
• 8:26
  know,
• 8:26
  he
• 8:27
  went
• 8:28
  to
• 8:28
  like,
• 8:28
  you
• 8:28
  know,
• 8:28
  he
• 8:29
  went
• 8:29
  north
• 8:29
  when
• 8:29
  they
• 8:30
  played
• 8:30
  at
• 8:31
  Wisconsin.
• 8:31
  He
• 8:31
  was
• 8:31
  at
• 8:32
  Florida
• 8:32
  when
• 8:32
  they
• 8:32
  opened
• 8:33
  up
• 8:33
  their
• 8:34
  stadium,
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  same
• 8:35
  stadium
• 8:36
  that
• 8:36
  they
• 8:36
  play
• 8:36
  in
• 8:37
  now,
• 8:37
  Florida.
• 8:37
  Anyways,
• 8:39
  and
• 8:40
  he
• 8:40
  went
• 8:40
  to
• 8:41
  one
• 8:41
  or
• 8:41
  two
• 8:41
  Rose
• 8:41
  Bowls
• 8:42
  when
• 8:42
  Bama
• 8:42
  was
• 8:43
  in
• 8:43
  the
• 8:43
  Rose
• 8:43
  bowl,
• 8:44
  you
• 8:44
  know,
• 8:44
  back
• 8:44
  then.
• 8:45
  So
• 8:46
  I
• 8:46
  don't
• 8:46
  know,
• 8:46
  it's
• 8:46
  just
• 8:46
  kind
• 8:46
  of
• 8:47
  an
• 8:47
  interesting,
• 8:48
  kind
• 8:48
  of
• 8:48
  an
• 8:48
  interesting
• 8:48
  character.
• 8:49
  But
• 8:49
  the,
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  chances
• 8:50
  of
• 8:51
  somebody.
• 8:52
  It'd
• 8:52
  be
• 8:52
  one
• 8:52
  thing
• 8:52
  if
• 8:53
  he
• 8:53
  was
• 8:53
  on
• 8:54
  the
• 8:54
  first
• 8:54
  team
• 8:55
  at
• 8:56
  Akron.
• 8:57
  Sorry,
• 8:57
  Akron,
• 8:58
  but
• 8:58
  you
• 8:58
  know,
• 8:59
  Akron
• 8:59
  and
• 9:00
  you
• 9:01
  know,
• 9:01
  Wabash
• 9:02
  or
• 9:02
  something.
• 9:03
  Or
• 9:03
  Wabash.
• 9:05
  Okay,
• 9:05
  fine.
• 9:07
  And
• 9:07
  maybe
• 9:07
  there's
• 9:08
  somebody
• 9:08
  out
• 9:08
  there
• 9:08
  who
• 9:08
  was.
• 9:09
  But
• 9:09
  he
• 9:10
  was,
• 9:10
  you
• 9:10
  know,
• 9:10
  first
• 9:11
  team
• 9:11
  for
• 9:11
  Bama
• 9:11
  and
• 9:12
  Texas,
• 9:12
  which
• 9:13
  is
• 9:13
  kind
• 9:13
  of
• 9:13
  cool.
• 9:14
  Yeah,
• 9:15
  that's
• 9:15
  really
• 9:15
  cool.
• 9:16
  Especially,
• 9:17
  you
• 9:17
  know,
• 9:17
  he'd
• 9:18
  probably
• 9:18
  be
• 9:18
  really
• 9:18
  proud
• 9:19
  now
• 9:19
  if
• 9:19
  they're
• 9:19
  both
• 9:19
  in
• 9:20
  the
• 9:20
  SEC
• 9:20
  and
• 9:20
  playing
• 9:21
  against
• 9:21
  each
• 9:21
  other
• 9:22
  and
• 9:22
  you
• 9:22
  know,
• 9:23
  and
• 9:23
  competing
• 9:23
  for,
• 9:24
  for
• 9:24
  league
• 9:25
  titles
• 9:25
  and
• 9:25
  national
• 9:26
  championships.
• 9:26
  That's
• 9:27
  kind
• 9:27
  of.
• 9:27
  Yeah.
• 9:27
  But
• 9:28
  I'm
• 9:28
  pretty
• 9:28
  sure
• 9:28
  we
• 9:28
  know,
• 9:29
  we
• 9:29
  know
• 9:29
  where
• 9:29
  his
• 9:29
  loyalties
• 9:31
  would
• 9:31
  lie.
• 9:32
  Yale.
• 9:34
  No.
• 9:34
  Oh,
• 9:35
  okay.
• 9:35
  It's
• 9:36
  the
• 9:36
  one
• 9:36
  that
• 9:36
  starts
• 9:36
  with
• 9:37
  an
• 9:37
  A.
• 9:37
  Oh.
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  guess
• 9:40
  when
• 9:40
  you're
• 9:40
  governor
• 9:41
  of
• 9:41
  the
• 9:41
  state,
• 9:42
  you
• 9:42
  got
• 9:42
  to
• 9:42
  keep
• 9:43
  your
• 9:43
  loyalty
• 9:43
  there.
• 9:44
  So.
• 9:44
  Yeah.
• 9:45
  Very,
• 9:45
  very
• 9:45
  interesting
• 9:46
  guy.
• 9:46
  Boy,
• 9:46
  what
• 9:46
  a,
• 9:46
  what
• 9:47
  a
• 9:47
  well
• 9:47
  rounded
• 9:48
  life
• 9:48
  that
• 9:49
  a
• 9:49
  man
• 9:49
  led.
• 9:50
  You
• 9:50
  know,
• 9:50
  between
• 9:51
  military
• 9:52
  hero,
• 9:52
  football
• 9:53
  star,
• 9:53
  or
• 9:54
  football
• 9:54
  player
• 9:55
  at
• 9:55
  different
• 9:55
  places
• 9:56
  and
• 9:56
  governor
• 9:57
  and
• 9:57
  wow.
• 9:58
  Pretty,
• 9:58
  pretty
• 9:59
  interesting
• 9:59
  fella.
• 9:59
  Yeah.
• 10:00
  I
• 10:00
  never
• 10:00
  saw
• 10:00
  anything
• 10:00
  about
• 10:01
  him
• 10:01
  coaching,
• 10:01
  which
• 10:02
  I
• 10:02
  thought
• 10:02
  maybe
• 10:03
  he
• 10:03
  would,
• 10:03
  but,
• 10:03
  you
• 10:03
  know,
• 10:04
  he
• 10:04
  was
• 10:04
  too
• 10:04
  busy.
• 10:05
  Yeah,
• 10:06
  that's
• 10:06
  true.
• 10:07
  Had
• 10:07
  a
• 10:07
  lot
• 10:07
  going
• 10:07
  on.
• 10:08
  He
• 10:08
  had
• 10:08
  things
• 10:08
  to
• 10:08
  do.
• 10:09
  Yeah.
• 10:09
  But
• 10:10
  this
• 10:10
  is
• 10:10
  another
• 10:11
  example
• 10:12
  of,
• 10:12
  you
• 10:13
  know,
• 10:13
  grabbing
• 10:14
  somebody
• 10:14
  from
• 10:14
  the
• 10:14
  past
• 10:15
  that.
• 10:15
  Because
• 10:16
  I
• 10:16
  read
• 10:16
  your
• 10:16
  tidbit,
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  had
• 10:17
  never
• 10:17
  heard
• 10:18
  of
• 10:18
  this
• 10:18
  gentleman
• 10:18
  before,
• 10:19
  but
• 10:19
  definitely
• 10:20
  he
• 10:20
  played
• 10:20
  a
• 10:20
  part
• 10:20
  in
• 10:21
  football
• 10:21
  history.
• 10:21
  That's
• 10:22
  to.
• 10:23
  To
• 10:23
  us
• 10:23
  that
• 10:23
  like
• 10:24
  to
• 10:24
  reflect
• 10:24
  back
• 10:25
  on
• 10:25
  that
• 10:25
  and
• 10:25
  our
• 10:25
  listeners
• 10:26
  love
• 10:26
  to
• 10:26
  do
• 10:26
  that.
• 10:27
  And
• 10:27
  you
• 10:27
  get
• 10:27
  to
• 10:27
  preserve
• 10:28
  that.
• 10:28
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• 10:28
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• 10:28
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• 10:28
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• 10:29
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• 10:29
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• 10:29
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• 10:30
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• 10:30
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• 10:30
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• 10:31
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• 10:31
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• 10:31
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• 10:31
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• 10:31
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• 10:32
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• 10:34
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• 10:36
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• 10:36
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• 10:37
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• 11:01
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