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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Tommy Vitor. I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
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  Speaker 2: John Lovett could not be with us tonight. He is
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  Speaker 2: at the Andrew Cuomo party.
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  Speaker 3: No, he's just at his house. He's staying there.
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  Speaker 2: He's at Andrew Cuomo's house. He's sleeping over in that
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  Speaker 2: nice apartment. Big night. Big night for Democrats. Big night
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  Speaker 2: for America. But it's definitely a big night for Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: So this feels better, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. What do you think, Dan?
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  Speaker 2: Did you guys forget what it feels to have an
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  Speaker 2: election night that feels good? Did you guys forget about that?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: And to have an election day where all the good
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  Speaker 5: news came right away.
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  Speaker 3: There was no waiting.
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  Speaker 5: There was no waiting for the college towns to come
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  Speaker 5: in or anything like that. It's just polls close, call
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  Speaker 5: for the Democrats. That's how it should be.
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  Speaker 3: Love it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One in Virginia, one in New Jersey, Prop 51 in California,
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  Speaker 2: one in New York City, Georgia Public Service Commission, big
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  Speaker 2: win there.
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  Speaker 6: The main ballot measure that would have put voter suppression
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  Speaker 6: tactics in place and voter ID laws in place was
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  Speaker 6: losing really badly.
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  Speaker 2: And the one about a red flag law to take
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  Speaker 2: guns away from family members who I guess might use them.
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  Speaker 5: Don't forget the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 2: Pennsylvania Supreme Court stays 5-2. Liberal majority there. I think,
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  Speaker 2: I can't, I'm probably forgetting a few, but it was
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  Speaker 2: a big night.
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  Speaker 6: What is this feeling, winning? This was like 2017, that's
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  Speaker 6: what it feels like, and 2018.
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  Speaker 2: So let's start with, just because we just watched the speech,
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  Speaker 2: Zoran Mamdani, 34 years old. is the mayor of New
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  Speaker 2: York City. So far, it is, I believe, he crossed
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  Speaker 2: the 50% threshold. Right now, with 90% reporting, it's Mamdani, 50.4%.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Cuomo, 41.6%. Gerdesliwa, 7.1%. Mamdani won every borough except
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  Speaker 2: Staten Island. won by 20 points in Brooklyn, 11 in
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  Speaker 2: the Bronx, over and over and over again, hit a
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  Speaker 2: million votes. First time a candidate has done that in
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  Speaker 2: New York since 1969. He becomes the first Muslim mayor
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  Speaker 2: of New York, the first democratic socialist, and the youngest
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  Speaker 2: mayor of New York since Tammany Hall days, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty goddamn impressive.
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  Speaker 2: Takes on Zoran pulling it out. Dan?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's an incredible win. It's a campaign for
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  Speaker 5: the HS, right? They put out this incredible video Just
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  Speaker 5: the other day, there was Zoran standing on a street corner,
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  Speaker 5: I think in Queens, right after the 2024 election, holding
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  Speaker 5: a sign saying, please come talk to me about the election.
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  Speaker 5: And he was trying to, people were paying no, they
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  Speaker 5: had no idea who he was, paying no attention to him.
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  Speaker 5: Flash forward one year later, the guy's mayor of New York.
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  Speaker 5: He is a celebrity. Everywhere he's go, he's mobbed about
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  Speaker 5: people excited by this. There is like a sense of
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  Speaker 5: community in New York over this. People are just so
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  Speaker 5: fired up. It's like, it's truly, it really is one.
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  Speaker 3: For the ages.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just an extraordinary race. I mean, what a look.
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  Speaker 6: I got to talk to him for the first time
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  Speaker 6: three or four days ago, and he's just like effortlessly charming.
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  Speaker 6: He's relentlessly on message. He hammered costs. He hammered affordability.
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  Speaker 6: He was able to and we'll talk about in the speech,
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  Speaker 6: take a two by four to Andrew Cuomo's head. In
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  Speaker 6: a pretty delicate way, I thought, most of the time.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it was an eloquent way.
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  Speaker 3: He did it with a smile. He did it with humor.
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  Speaker 6: Barack Obama was good at this, too. Landing a really
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  Speaker 6: hard punch in a way that doesn't feel mean or
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  Speaker 6: crass or cruel or what people hate about politics. He
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  Speaker 6: was focused on cost of living. He picked the right enemy,
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  Speaker 6: the kind of Bill Ackman billionaire class, and he ran
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  Speaker 6: with it.
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  Speaker 3: And my God, what a win.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hear a clip from the speech.
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  Speaker 4: I wish Andrew Cuomo only the best in private life.
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  Speaker 4: We can respond to oligarchy and authoritarianism with the strength
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  Speaker 4: it fears, not the appeasement it craves. After all, if
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  Speaker 4: anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump how
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  Speaker 4: to defeat him, it is the city that gave rise
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  Speaker 4: to him. And if there is any way to terrify
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  Speaker 4: a despot, it is by dismantling the very conditions that
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  Speaker 4: allowed him to accumulate power. This is not only how
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  Speaker 4: we stop Trump, it's how we stop the next one.
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  Speaker 4: So Donald Trump, since I know you're watching, I have
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  Speaker 4: four words for you. Turn the volume up!
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  Speaker 2: I will say, clip cut off the most important part
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  Speaker 2: of the Andrew Cuomo line, which was, I wish Andrew
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  Speaker 2: Cuomo the best in private life, and let this be
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  Speaker 2: the last time I ever say his name.
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  Speaker 3: But let tonight be the final time I utter his name.
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  Speaker 2: You said Obama. You imagine Obama being like, I wish
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  Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton the best and let tonight be the last
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  Speaker 2: time I ever utter her name.
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  Speaker 3: We all would have clapped.
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  Speaker 6: I should say, as we were walking in here, the
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  Speaker 6: CNN panel talking about the speech was pretty apoplectic. They
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  Speaker 6: were expecting a more conciliatory, unifying sounding speech, which I frankly,
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  Speaker 6: in this moment, is a touch saccharine. I mean, he
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  Speaker 6: went super hard at Trump. I wondered if there might
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  Speaker 6: be some sort of you know, ultimately failing strategy to
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  Speaker 6: kind of mollify Trump a bit and maybe see if
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  Speaker 6: he would not punish New York City. But no, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: Zoran took the fight right to Trump. He basically called
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  Speaker 6: him a slumlord in another part of the speech. Zoran
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  Speaker 6: was like unabashedly himself throughout the speech. He talked about,
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  Speaker 6: he opened by name-checking Eugene Debs, who many listeners might
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  Speaker 6: not know is like a very, very famous socialist. He
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  Speaker 6: was proud of his identity. He's talking about New York
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  Speaker 6: being a nation of immigrants. He clearly hates Cuomo. He
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  Speaker 6: was not willing to let it go to knights.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he said, He also ended by saying a
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  Speaker 2: famous New Yorker once said, you campaign in poetry and
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  Speaker 2: govern in prose, which was Mario Cuomo.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, going after his father's most famous speeches.
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  Speaker 2: And then did The Shining City on the Hill, which
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  Speaker 2: is another Cuomo reference.
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  Speaker 6: My biggest anxiety for Mamdani, for his team, for all
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  Speaker 6: the young people who have poured themselves into this campaign
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  Speaker 6: and all their hopes and dreams is just the reality
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  Speaker 6: of how brutal and hard governing can be and how
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  Speaker 6: demoralizing it can feel when there are setbacks. And I
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  Speaker 6: wondered if Mamdani might do some kind of expectation setting tonight.
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  Speaker 6: He did not do that. He leaned into the high expectations.
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  Speaker 6: He said expectations will be high.
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  Speaker 3: We will meet them. So, I mean, look, good for him.
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  Speaker 3: He's owning the moment.
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  Speaker 2: He's calling a shot.
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  Speaker 3: He's calling a shot.
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  Speaker 2: Dan?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he clearly, the hatred that he and
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  Speaker 5: his campaign team have for Andrew Cuomo is palpable. And
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  Speaker 5: I understand that because I also hate Andrew Cuomo with
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  Speaker 5: the passion of A Thousand Suns. So I get it.
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  Speaker 2: We've been there on our campaigns for other parts, but yes,
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  Speaker 2: also with Andrew Cuomo.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: And also the Cuomo thing works in the sense that
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  Speaker 5: Andrew Cuomo represents everything that Mondani was running against, like old, broken,
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  Speaker 5: corrupt politics. So yes, there is like a personal hatred there,
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  Speaker 5: but it also works with his narrative. I'm not apoplectic
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  Speaker 5: like the CNN panel. I think the key for his
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  Speaker 5: success is going to not be in fights with Trump.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to be– I mean, not that Trump is
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  Speaker 5: not going to bring the fight to him, but it
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  Speaker 5: is to just like cost of living, cost of living,
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  Speaker 5: cost of living, affordability crisis. Like he's run this whole campaign.
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  Speaker 5: And I think he'll do the expectation setting in his
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  Speaker 5: inaugural speech on January 1st when he takes office. But
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  Speaker 5: like he is a powerful, powerful speaker. And the thing
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  Speaker 5: that I really took from it is like Trump has
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  Speaker 5: this vision, this 1970s vision of New York, right? Crime-ridden,
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  Speaker 5: the racial makeup at the time. And Mondani is completely
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  Speaker 5: in tune with the New York of today, the way
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  Speaker 5: he was like naming Yemeni bodega owners. And it's just like,
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  Speaker 5: like he was name checking everyone, but it is, that's
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  Speaker 5: the New York that he comes from. The New York
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  Speaker 5: he represents is this like amazing melting pot city of immigrants.
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  Speaker 2: I will say though, the one part I did, like,
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  Speaker 2: I thought being tough on Trump was completely warranted because
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump is at fucking war with American cities right now.
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  Speaker 2: And he's like, he spent the entire campaign threatening. He's
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  Speaker 2: still threatening to pull federal funding from New York. So
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  Speaker 2: he wants to hurt the people of New York because
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  Speaker 2: of who they voted for. He's got goons in Chicago
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  Speaker 2: and L.A. and everywhere. Like, he can be tough on
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump. And I actually think showing a little strength
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  Speaker 2: is good. I mean, this is, again, Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 2: not a normal president from another party here. So I
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  Speaker 2: was actually okay with that. And, you know, you're pissed
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  Speaker 2: at Cuomo. You get a few digs in. It's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't, like, opposed to it or, like. It didn't
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  Speaker 3: bother me. I was just a little surprised by it.
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  Speaker 2: Me too.
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  Speaker 3: You could imagine a meeting where you're like, look, let's
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  Speaker 3: not pick this fight right now. Let's wait.
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  Speaker 6: You're a young guy. He's going to come after you anyway.
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  Speaker 6: But he was like, no, he's going to punch me,
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  Speaker 6: so I'm going to punch him first.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you know what Trump respects? Trump respects people
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  Speaker 2: who are fucking throw a punch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's the argument for it is he is
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  Speaker 5: sending a message to Trump that he'll fight him. I
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  Speaker 5: was struck by, there's a way to do it where
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  Speaker 5: it's mostly about protecting New York. And he really went
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  Speaker 5: out like, despot, authoritarian, like the root causes of MAGA-ism.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, and also he's going to be a
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  Speaker 5: leader in this party and maybe that's the, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the ground he's staking out. So we'll like sort of
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  Speaker 5: have to see where it goes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I know what you're saying, Dan, because I thought
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  Speaker 2: he was going to go more in the direction where
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  Speaker 2: he did on when he talked about immigrants and he said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is a city of immigrants. Now it's
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  Speaker 2: being led by one. And if you're going to come
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  Speaker 2: after us, you're going to have to go through all
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  Speaker 2: of us. Like I thought that that's sort of the,
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  Speaker 2: this is how we're going to take on Trump. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: it's not Mamdani versus Trump. It's, you're coming after the city,
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  Speaker 2: you're not just coming after me, which I think is
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  Speaker 2: the right. Yeah, somewhere an ICE official is like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: give me a challenge. Dan, to your point about name-checking
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  Speaker 2: the modern New York, do you see Deezus Nice tweeted,
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  Speaker 2: if Zoran has yet to mention your nationality, neighborhood, or
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  Speaker 2: bus line in the speech, please stay in line.
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  Speaker 5: One just factoid on this race that I found the
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  Speaker 5: exit polls was fascinating is that Mamdani won 9% of
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  Speaker 5: 2024 Trump voters.
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  Speaker 7: Amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Which is a huge number, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Are we trusting any of the exit polls, Dan? for
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  Speaker 2: any of these because the top lines on both Virginia
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  Speaker 2: and Jersey, because people were doing the math where if
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  Speaker 2: you know the gender split, you can sort of figure
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  Speaker 2: out the top line, were so wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's first wave, right? And the numbers adjusted several times.
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  Speaker 2: I'm wondering if they have adjusted.
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  Speaker 5: They have adjusted. And I think, like, is it super precise? No,
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  Speaker 5: like they never are, but it's like a piece of
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  Speaker 5: data and maybe it's nine, maybe it's seven, but it's
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  Speaker 5: still like the idea that this, that there are a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of people, and this is an important thing for
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  Speaker 5: Democrats to understand, there are a bunch of people in
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  Speaker 5: New York City who pulled the lever for Donald Trump
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  Speaker 5: one year ago, who then pulled it for the 34-year-old
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  Speaker 5: immigrant Democratic Socialist mayor.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it.
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  Speaker 5: Says something about his appeal and it says something about
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  Speaker 5: how sort of confusing voters can be.
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  Speaker 2: Before we leave New York, lessons from the Mamdani campaign
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  Speaker 2: and Mamdani's victory, can they be applied to anywhere else
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  Speaker 2: in the country? Are we now socialist country. And also,
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  Speaker 2: Republicans are trying very hard already to make Zoran Mamdani
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  Speaker 2: the face of the Democratic Party. They've already telegraphed that
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  Speaker 2: they're going to tie him to every Democratic candidate all
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  Speaker 2: across the country. Is this going to work? What do
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  Speaker 2: you think, Dan?
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  Speaker 5: I do not think it's going to work. Every election,
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  Speaker 5: they pick a bogeyman, right? It was Nancy Pelosi forever
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  Speaker 5: And then in 2014, they put Nancy Pelosi in all
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  Speaker 5: the ads. Republicans did great. In 2018, they put Nancy
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  Speaker 5: Pelosi in all the ads, and Republicans did poorly. Nancy
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  Speaker 5: Pelosi was less popular in 2018 than she was in 2014.
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  Speaker 5: So just the idea that they're really going to be
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  Speaker 5: able to use Mamdani to help attack candidates in Georgia
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  Speaker 5: just seems kind of far-fetched to me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. I agree. They always have a boogeyman.
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  Speaker 3: It's Pelosi. It's AOC. It's Ilhan Omar. It's whomever. Hillary Clinton. Um, they'll,
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  Speaker 3: if it's not one, they'll pick another.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How do you, any lessons, any lessons from the, uh,
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  Speaker 2: from the campaign? I think it's.
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  Speaker 3: Good to not run candidates in their eighties. That's one
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  Speaker 3: note I had. I wrote that one down.
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  Speaker 2: All three big races, young candidates. Yep. Cheryl, Spanberger, Mamdani. Yep.
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  Speaker 6: Um, I just like jokes aside, like you're already seeing, um, the,
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  Speaker 6: the war is breaking out on Twitter. You've got abundance
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  Speaker 6: bros fighting anti-oligarch cranks. You've got neolib shills battling the DSA.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone just chill out. Everyone just chill out for a minute.
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  Speaker 6: Like I don't, I don't, I don't have a big,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. I'd like to hear what you guys think.
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  Speaker 6: I've not had a big takeaway from this, this election night.
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  Speaker 6: Like some people will say the party needs to go left.
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  Speaker 6: Some people will say we need more moderates like Cheryl
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  Speaker 6: and Spanberger. I think all of them were boosted by
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  Speaker 6: the fact that Trump has totally failed to focus on
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  Speaker 6: the economy. In Virginia in particular, he fired a bunch
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  Speaker 6: of people who voted in the election. Running when Trump
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  Speaker 6: is on the ballot is really, really hard. Democrats tend
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  Speaker 6: to get a decent boost running against Trump when he's
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  Speaker 6: not on the ballot, and that benefited everybody here. It
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  Speaker 6: really is good to pick young candidates who understand the
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  Speaker 6: digital age and who can communicate and connect and who
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  Speaker 6: are good messengers and good speakers. But also, Mamdani picked
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  Speaker 6: the right message, which was affordability and battling the billionaire
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  Speaker 6: class as the problem, and he hammered it on corruption
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  Speaker 6: and the cost of living. And that discipline, I do think,
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  Speaker 6: is a lesson that can be applied to every election.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, what is the lesson from an election
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  Speaker 2: where a Muslim socialist won in New York and an
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  Speaker 2: ex-CIA moderate mom trounced in Virginia and another woman with
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  Speaker 2: a military background, Navy pilot, trounced in New Jersey? The
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  Speaker 2: common denominator is Donald Trump hasn't done anything about affordability
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  Speaker 2: and has made it worse. So that is the one
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  Speaker 2: common denominator in all the races. No matter what part
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  Speaker 2: of the party you're from, no matter what you believe,
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  Speaker 2: who you are, your identity, it's been about Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: All right, Virginia, Abigail Spanberger will be the first female
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  Speaker 2: governor of the commonwealth of virginia she won uh so
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  Speaker 2: far i got 57 she's at 57 percent 57 42.7
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: over uh winsome earl sears jay jones wins the attorney
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: general race by a smaller margin but the margin is 52%,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and his opponent was 47.5%. Democrat Ghazala Hashmi is the
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: new lieutenant governor. She won 55-45. Every single, just about
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: every county, I think, but four in Virginia shifted blue,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: some by double digits since 2024. You have counties like
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Chesterfield County, Youngkin won by five. Spanberger is winning by 17%.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: That is like an unheard of swing. Virginia Beach, another
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: sort of bellwether county. Youngkin won by eight, Spanberger by ten.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Just huge, huge shifts. So I was not worried about Virginia.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I thought she was going to win by at least
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Kamala's margin and maybe a few points more. This was
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: way bigger than that. What did you guys think of Virginia? Tommy?
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: Um, yeah, I mean, this was a remarkable drubbing by
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: Spanberger and also Democrats are on track to win 64
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Virginia house of delegate seats out.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Of a hundred total. That's a pickup of, I think, 13, 13,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: which is just massive. That is massive.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: And it suggests that it wasn't just top of the ticket.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: There was anger at the Republican party all the way down.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: Like I, like you, I think Spanberger is a pretty
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: good candidate. Um, she was running against a terrible opponent. Um,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: Republicans all but gave up on this race. Although I
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: do think they the RGA burned like $ 4 million for
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: no reason at the very end on ads, which is
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: thank you, I guess, for letting that money on fire.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: But you know, with all these races, there was chatter
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: in the summer sort of doldrum months that maybe things
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: weren't going well, that maybe something secret was showing up
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: in the polls and Republicans were closing. Um, and so you,
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: you know, that creeps into your, to your brain, but no,
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: it was a drubbing.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Dan. Yeah.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Like she obviously, I was pretty sure she was going
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: to win the whole time. I mean, the, The party
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: opposite the president has won every Virginia governor's race since 1975,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: other than 2013 when the Republicans nominated Ken Cuccinelli, the
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: worst candidate humanly possible. But this was a massive, massive win.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: And I think this is largely about Donald Trump and
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: specifically about Donald Trump's attack on the federal government, like
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: using the exit polls again. 60% of Virginians said that
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: they were adversely affected by the cuts to federal spending
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: or federal jobs. And Spanberger won those voters by 37%.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Donald Trump. A fifth of Virginia voters say
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: that someone in their household either worked for the federal,
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: was a federal government employee or a federal government contractor.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Spanberger won those voters by more than 20 points. It
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: was just an absolute, like if the shutdown was going
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: to be a problem for Democrats, it was going to
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: be in Virginia. This would be the place, this is
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: ground zero for the shutdown. And the fact that the
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Democrats did so well, so far outran Martins, crushed with moderates,
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: And then there's a massive shift in the suburbs from
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Glenn Youngkin's victory in 21 to Spanberger's victory now. In
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: the exit point, they do it by region. So people
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: who live in the suburbs, Youngkin won by seven points.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Spanberger's going to win by about 15 points. Huge, huge wins.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: And this is once a place where Donald Trump is
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: 15 points underwater in this state. And he's more popular
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: in Virginia than he is in New Jersey here. And
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: that clearly played a role here. And the fact that
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Spamburger did so well that she pulled Jay Jones across
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: the finish line, who everyone thought was going to lose,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: was basically left for dead by the Democratic Party because
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: of the texting scandal. And he ends up winning pretty handily.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: What texting scandal?
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. He was in one
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: of those group chats. We don't do that in our party.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right. I feel like this is a bigger win
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: than 17th. Like, like I, this is a, this is
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: the biggest democratic win in Virginia of our, of our lifetimes,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, it is.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: It's the biggest margin by far. I think Virginia, I
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: think 2017 was 10.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Points, maybe.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: This was, um, this was, this was wild. And to,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: to have the whole, to, to bring in the assembly too.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: The biggest, it's actually, it's not, it's the biggest democratic win. Uh, uh,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: and we lost really, really bad in 2009 by like
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: 20 points, I think, or 17 points.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Great deeds. Great deeds.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: And so again, now the lesson to take from here
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: across the country is run moderate former CIA. It's the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: only option. That's it. That is another lesson.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: It has to be binary. It's got to be one
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: or the other.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: It's not about running the right candidate for the district
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: you're in.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Mikey Sherrill in New Jersey over Jack Cittarelli, 56 to 43.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Now this is maybe the margin here, I think, at
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: least for me, Of the big races was the biggest
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: surprise of the night.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Because, you know, a lot of the polls had this
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: down to a one-point lead, two-point lead, three-point lead. There
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: were some others. There was some variation. There were some
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: that were like seven or eight, but no one had
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: it this big.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: No, I look today, the RCP average, the Real Clear
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Politics average was 3.3 at the end. And to your point,
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: like there were a couple of polls late that were
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: like Cheryl plus one. Cheryl plus two, plus three, plus one.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: It seemed like it was tightening up, and this is
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: the one.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Your day has passed, Atlas Intel.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they officially lost their A-plus rating today.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck you.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's a polling firm for all you non-sickos out there.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: I'm really excited to never have to learn how to
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: say Chitirelli properly.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: You just did.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: You did it correctly.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Well, I know, but I heard John say it.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Well, that's because I said it wrong a couple times.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, you did?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Not tonight, but in the past.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Cheater.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: So this is an interesting one, right? Like, Phil Murphy,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: you've got an incumbent who's already served two terms, so
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: it's sort of hard for another Democrat to win after
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: a Democrat's already served two terms. Cittarelli is someone who's
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: run before, so he has, like, near universal name recognition
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: in the state. He was seen as a, like, winsome Sears,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: not seen as a great candidate, but Jack Cittarelli. Not
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: a bad candidate for Republicans. Was not like a super
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Trumpy Republican in the primary. Pretended he was a super
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Trumpy Republican and then basically forgot that Trump existed in
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: the general. So you look on his website and he
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: has all the list of people who endorse him at
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the very bottom in like small letters. It says Donald Trump,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: but that's like the only time he ever mentioned it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately for Jack Cittarelli, he said Trump supported him on
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: video and then it was put in ads for months.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Well, there you go.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: And he also proposed a 10% sales tax at one point,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: which is a bad move when it costs a living.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a tough one. That is a tough one.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: What do you think, Dan? What happened? Why was the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: polling so off on this one?
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know why the polling was so off. I
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: don't know that– the polling was off in 21, too,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: in New Jersey because that one ended up being much
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: closer than we thought. So maybe we don't have to
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: poll New Jersey anymore. I don't even think they did
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: exit polls in 21 because we were so sure the
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: race was going to be such an easy win for Murphy.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: So it was hard to even do– to do an
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: apples to apples comparison of how things might have changed.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: It's a truly– like this is even more of a
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: stunning win than Abigail Spanberger's win because of the point
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: you made, which is every election is a changed election.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: And it's so hard for a third Democratic term to
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: replace a two-term Democratic governor and then to win by–
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: almost as much as that governor won the first time.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: I think Murphy won by 17 points in 17. But
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: to win by such a huge margin, usually it's a
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: begrudging thing, even in a democratic state. I think the
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: other takeaway is if New Jersey shifted very far to
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: the right from 2020 to 2024, a 10-point swing in
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: Trump's direction, Trump made huge gains in the counties outside
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: of New York City, like Bergen and Passaic and Hudson.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: And as of the vote count I just looked at,
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: like Sheryl is crushing in those counties. Now, and I
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: think this doesn't tell us that New Jersey hasn't moved
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: some to the right, but this is a warning sign
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: that it may be a fleeting moment for Trump to
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: have the strength there. It may look more like Obama
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: in Indiana in 08 than Obama in Virginia in 08
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: in the sense that it's like a fleeting moment as
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: opposed to a state on its path to purple status.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Ron Brownstein was tweeting, he was looking through the exits
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and some of the- Literally.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Have that highlighted on there.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: That's so funny that you're.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Going to do that. He said, no group received more
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: attention as evidence of realignment in 24 than working class minorities,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: but Spanberger won 84% of non-whites without a college degree
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: and Sherrill won 71% of them. And that number is
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: probably going to be adjusted up. In each case, that's
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: better than Kamala Harris in 2024. Oh, I was going
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: to say, Ron had a few of them, so who knows?
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: Ron also pointed out that in New Jersey, the Republican,
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Cheryl didn't get back to the Democratic share with Hispanic
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: voters that we reached in 17 or the 2020 presidential race.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: But Cittarelli did not come close to Trump's 2024 Hispanic
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: number of 43%.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: He only got 34%, which suggests that Trump, like having.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: Permanently changed the baseline for Hispanic voters, that assumption is
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: probably not proven out yet.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think, I don't want to step on
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: any of Dan's meta takes at the end, but in
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: all of these races, it does seem like the voters that,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the voting groups that shifted the most towards Trump in 24,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: young voters, some black men, Latino voters. And then in
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: some of the polling we've seen in the last couple
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: of months, those have been the voters who are now
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: disapproving of Trump. And I think this election is has
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: shown that they actually did flip back to Democrats in
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of these races.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Or they flipped to the couch, which is a more
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: likely thing here.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Or they flipped to the couch.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Like J.D.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Vance. Yes, exactly like J.D.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Vance.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Too late for that?
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Never too late. It's just, this is such a smaller
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: electorate with more highly engaged voters. So it's not necessarily
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: that a bunch of these people, there will be some
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: who voted Trump in 24 who voted for Sheryl or Spanberger.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: In 25, but the most more likely scenario is people
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: who came out for Trump in 24 stayed home. Now,
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: that is a sign of political weakness for Trump because
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: he has not been able to turn these people into
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: regular Republican voters, and he's.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Not going to be on the ballot. And since he'll
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: never be on the ballot again, will they come off
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the couch for J.D. Vance, Tommy?
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Phrasing. Yes.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Come off the couch?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: It's late.
• 30:01
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  Speaker 2: Anything else in New Jersey?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: Great state. Close to New York.
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  Speaker 2: Easy to commute to the city.
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  Speaker 3: Good, good.
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  Speaker 2: out these Republicans. The margin here is 61 to 38
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: in one of them and 62 to 38 in the other.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, wow.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: And don't take our word for it. We're going to
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: drop in right here. Steve Bannon talking about this race
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: on the War Room podcast tonight.
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: The midterms start tonight. One of the biggest warning signs
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: that we've got that we need to get focused is
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: these two commissioners in Georgia that MTG mentioned. First time
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: in 30 years that Democrats have won a statewide election.
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: I don't think they've ever had commissioners have been Democrats
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: in a couple of decades. That is a warning that
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: this thing is going to cut deeper.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: So Bannon legitimately, I think, was shaken up by this
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: Georgia result. And for those wondering, what are you guys
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: talking about? This is a state agency that regulates utilities
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: and makes sure that electricity, natural gas, and telecommunications are
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: provided safely and at reasonable rates. But it became a
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: proxy for this broader political battle we're all waging this evening.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: And you know why people who are listening to us
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: may be more aware of this race than some other folks?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Because one organization that was laser-focused on this race, Vote
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Save America.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Damn right. Great work to that team.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: And they would tell us, hey, could you in the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: pod talk about the Georgia Public Service Commission? And we'd
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: be like, what? And they were right. Glad we focused
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: on that. You got to be feeling good if you're
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: John Ossoff trying to defend a seat in Georgia. Again,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: obviously very different electorate midterm to off year, but I
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: don't know. What do you think, Dan?
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: I think it's very positive, right? Like this is, it's just,
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: if there was lingering positive effects for Donald Trump after 2024, a,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: then they would have shown up and somebody should perform.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: And the exact opposite happened, right? It's a full rebuke.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: And the fact that it's even showing up in Georgia,
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: like Virginia, that's a Democratic state. New Jersey, that's a
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Democratic state. California gets a Democratic state. Maine, Democratic state. Georgia,
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: purple as can be. Trump won it last time. And
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: the fact that Democrats were able to win there, that
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Steve Bannon's right to be worried.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: When Ossoff was in here, he said that he thinks
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: his race is going to be like a half a
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: billion dollar election, the Georgia Senate race.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Also, way taller than I thought.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Very tall.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Very tall.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Very tall.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Goddamn good looking.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Handsome.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Really handsome.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: Handsome and tall?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: That seems unfair. Handsome and tall.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: If he were blonde, he would look like a DHS
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: or ICE recruiting poster. He's got that kind of like
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: 50s throwback.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Handsomeness.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Strong jaw.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: These guys get it. You're glad he's not blonde, right?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: You're like, don't step into my territory here.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: That's right. Get away from my culture. My culture is
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: not your costume.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: My culture is Ice's costume. Says Thomas Frederick Vitor. Should
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: we come back here to California? Prop 50. Gavin. Wins. Crushes.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: We got 65% of the votes in. It is 64
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: to 35 right now.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of votes to count already. I'm surprised.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Usually we don't count votes that fast.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: No, we count them early.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: We do come in early.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: We count them early.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: That's right. And then we have to wait. And then the.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Harvesting starts tomorrow morning.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: When you rig, then it makes it easy to count.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Anyway, uh, big, big win for, uh, for the democratic
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: party in being able to neutralize the gerrymandering, the Texas did. Uh,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: so they took five. Now we'll take, we'll take five.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: They're still trying to take more. So won't completely neutralize
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the gerrymandering that they're trying to do. But, um, it
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: is very good news for Democrats taking the House in
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the midterms of 2026. It at least gives us more
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: of a fighting chance. And also, big win for Gavin Newsom, who,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: this was a risk. He took a bet.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I think this is a really big deal.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, obviously, once he put forward the idea and
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: said it was going to be on the, there was
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: going to be a ballot initiative, it seemed very likely,
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: given that this is the state of California, given the
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: makeup of off-year voters in a special election like that
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: are primarily like.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: The Libia slibs.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like the positive America election. Odds are we
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: were going to win it. But he had the guts
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: and the foresight to conceive of this idea, push it forward,
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: and get this thing done. And imagine if we were
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: sitting here tonight, knowing we were going into the 2026
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: midterms at a deficit of five seats because of Texas.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: This is a huge deal.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I believe he spoke about the idea for the first
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: time right here. Yeah. Right here at this table.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: And then I think we scooped his own podcast by
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: accident because we put out.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: The clip early.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Told us he was like, well, we can either try
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: to do something with the legislature. He's like, but also
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I think we might just be able to put it
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: on the ballot.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: What an idea. Cool.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Do it.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Here it is. Here we are. Things happen.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Did you vote for Prop 50, Dan? Were you for it?
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Or did I? Yeah, me too.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Me too. Me too. Okay, let's do meta takes. Any
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: other races that we should talk about? We talked about
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: those two main ballot measures. So there's a red flag
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: gun control.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: It's a red flag gun measure, gun safety measure has passed.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: And then, Tommy, you noted that a voter ID measure failed.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: John, wasn't there a big race in your wife's hometown?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, Aftab. Mayor Aftab Purval had a challenge from J.D.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Vance's half-brother.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: Kicked his ass.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: The love seat.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: 50 points.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Crushed him.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Crushed him.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Absolutely crushed him.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Good job. Good job, Aftab. Great mayor. Great person. Glad
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati has him for another term. I think that's it.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Any meta takes? Should we do meta takes? Dan?
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: What do you got, Dan?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Unschool your meta take.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I'll give you my minutes.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Give it to us first before you put it in
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: the message box.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Well, what time are you posting this?
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: It's live. Hold on.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: I need a second. Got to hit send. I think
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: the biggest one is that this is a massive rebuke
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: of Trump. He is underwater in all these states. In
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: both Virginia and New Jersey, two-thirds of voters were dissatisfied
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: with the direction of the country. The economy was the
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: number one issue for most voters. In both states, the
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: Democrats won those voters by 20 points. The Democrats won
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: with moderates. They won with independents. They held their margins
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: with young people in the core parts of the Democratic coalition.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Donald Trump is unpopular. His political operation couldn't get out
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: of their own way, made things harder for Republicans in
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Virginia and New Jersey. It's very clear in the results.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: I think Abigail Spanberger would have won, shut down, no
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: shut down, doge, no doge. But what he did to
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: the federal workforce and the federal government sunk that race,
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: made the political situation so much worse. And then he's
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: got his fucking grim reaper Russ Vogt just canceling infrastructure
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: projects for New Jersey in the months and weeks leading
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: up to the election. And so it's a huge rebuke
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: for him. There are a whole slew of polls came
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: out over the weekend. All of them had Trump at
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: his lowest approval rating in a very long time. People
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: are pissed about the economy. They're pissed at him. Democrats
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: are still fired up. Even if they don't like the
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: brand or our leaders, they're still showing up to vote
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: for Democrats. Most of the polling shows that people who
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: voted for Spanberger and Sherrill did it to vote for them,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: not to oppose Trump or someone else. And so even
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: when our, so meditate number one, very bad for Trump,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: meditate number two, that at least in this off-year election environment,
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: the base of our party, our true most loyal voters
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: remain incredibly fired up and ready to go vote for Democrats,
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: even if they are dissatisfied with large parts of the
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: party leadership.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Fired up and ready to go.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Ready to go vote. I like that.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: Dan Counterpoint, a political analyst I follow on Truth Social, posted,
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: Trump wasn't on the ballot and shutdown were the two
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: reasons that Republicans lost elections tonight, comma, according to pollsters.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: That was from Donald Trump. Was that Alan Lichtman? Yeah,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: that was one of the keys.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I have another new pundit. He just, he was, he was,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Tied up for a bit, and now he's out and
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: about again.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Mr.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: George Santos.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's his name.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Fuck you, Curtis Sliwa. I hate you, your dumb wife,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: that stupid beret of yours, and all your fucking cats.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: That's a tweet we just got from George Santos. That's good.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: One more question. Federal government has now been shut down
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: for 36 days. That is the longest shutdown in American history.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump seemed to, well, it didn't seem to, he did,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: in his Truth Social post, was basically like, it was
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: the shutdown that hurt us. Do we think now's a
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: good time for Democrats to cave? The shutdown.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, Dan, could you imagine?
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: What's going on there? I see people are looking for
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: an off-ramp, and then I saw a lot of other
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Senate Democrats go on the record to CNN and be like,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: this would be fucking crazy to do this now. So
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's real, what's sources, and what's not.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Well, I read Punchbowl, so you don't have to.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: And so what... The folks at Punchbowl are telling me
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: is there's upwards of a dozen Senate Democrats who are
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: talking to Republicans who are interested in some sort of off-ramp,
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: which would include kind of what Thune's been proposing, which
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: is open the government in exchange for a vote on
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: the Obamacare subsidies. Republicans had a caucus meeting today. The
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Republican senators also want to vote on the Obamacare subsidies.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying they're going to vote for it, but
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: they at least want to be able to put up
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: a Republican bill so they're not just voting against a
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: Democratic bill. So there's some interest there. People seem to
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: be very quickly moving to the exits on this.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I keep asking this question, but what's going on with
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: the House? You can't have a fucking vote in the
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Senate on this and then just not have any kind
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: of deal happen in the House. Otherwise, it's a big leap.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: It's nothing.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: It's a flaw in the plan. There's also a lot
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: in there, which is really the motivating factor here, is
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: the appropriators really want to appropriate. And part of this
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: deal would be to get the appropriations process working again.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: And they'd pass three minibuses. I don't even want to
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: get into what that is, but probators are excited about it.
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: I get the substantive reasons that everyone wants to end
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: the shutdown. We want people to get SNAP benefits. We
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: want TSA to work. We don't want any more planes
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: to crash.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: Sean Duffy said he was going to shut down a
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: lot of our airspace next week if the government doesn't reopen.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Don't love that.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: So that's all not ideal.
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: But if you wake up tomorrow and you're Hakeem Jeffries
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: or you're Chuck Schumer and you're meeting with your leadership
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: or you're having a caucus meeting.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: What in the data– suggest that what you've.
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: Been doing for the last month has been the wrong approach.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of ways to choreograph this so that
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Republicans can still say, you know, we didn't let them
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: hold us hostage on something while the government was shut down, right?
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: There's a way to do it so if you don't
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: get the vote you want, then the government shuts down
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: again because you only passed a funding bill that goes
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: that far. So that's fine if they want to choreograph it,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: but the House has to be involved here and we
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: have to know that that Trump's going to sign a
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: bill that includes ACA subsidies as well. So like, if
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: we're not having meetings where it's a deal between Trump
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and Schumer and Thune and Johnson and Jeffries, then like,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: what the fuck are we doing?
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: Well, John, Trump is having breakfast with the Senate Republicans tomorrow,
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: and he's going to tell them to invoke the nuclear option,
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: eliminate the filibuster, and then not just open the government,
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: but then pass a whole series of voter suppression methods.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: He also truthed about that tonight.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: That's what he wants them to do? That's another.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: Ban mail-in voting, do all these other things?
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: This is why they don't want to... This is one
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: of the reasons they don't want to follow his advice
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: and eliminate the filibusters. They don't have the votes to
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: do all that crazy shit. Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: are not going to do that. They're not going to
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: probably get... I guess they can get the Tillis. I
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: don't know. I think.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: They can get.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: They don't have the votes for those people to even
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: get rid of... They probably don't have the votes to
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: get rid of the filibuster.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: That they don't. And they don't want to get rid
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: of the filibuster because then they have to do all
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Trump's crazy shit. Right now... he calls him and says,
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: do this insane thing. And they're like, well, we can't.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: The Democrats won't let us.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: But once they hit 50... But now he's learned. He's like,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: wait a minute.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Wait, this is what's stopping me from doing all the
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: crazy shit? That's bullshit.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: Only five years in.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's figured it out.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: He did have some new spin on his election night defeat.
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: He tweeted out or truthed out, just out, the 60
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Minutes interview of Donald J. Trump on CBS Sunday night
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: was the highest rated 60 Minutes in years. That is
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: some cope. That is some cope that is right alongside...
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: When every election the Republicans lose, someone tweets a photo
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: of a map of a state or the country, and
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: it's like, if not for all these cities, Democrats would
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: never win. It's like, yes, if not for all the
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: human beings, the citizens who live in those cities who
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: vote for Democrats, we would never win.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: You are correct. Counties don't vote.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Here's a Democratic senator who's not backing down. Chris Murphy
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: just put out a statement about the shutdown. Democrats win
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: when we show the American people what we stand for
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: and how we're willing to fight for it, as we
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: have been for the last month. Tonight's election results are
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: an unmistakable rejection of Donald Trump's corruption and Republicans' billionaire agenda,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: but the result should also give Democrats confidence that the
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: American people have our back as we engage in the
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: fight to protect people's health care and save our democracy.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Good for Chris Murphy.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Get him, Murph Dogg.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, fucking Chuck Schumer can't even tell us who he
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: voted for in New York.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Let's talk about that for a second. It's just so,
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: it's bad politics.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: If you didn't vote for him and you know that
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: everyone's going to be pissed at you, just fucking grow
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: a pair and say you didn't vote for him. Just
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: say it one way or the other.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: Cowardly. This is why I think Chuck Schumer's greatest flaw
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: as a leader is he's afraid to tell people what
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: they don't want to hear. And what is his thinking here?
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: That the Republicans would be like, man, we were going
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: to run all these ads comparing– John Ossoff to Mamdani,
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: but Schumer never voted for him. So I guess that's
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: off the table.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I guess we can't do it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Would be unfair.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Rats, he foiled our plan.
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: Well, in his, the Schumer approach is only just a
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: little bit worse than Hakeem Jeffries, who just took on
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: water from the left for like a month or two months.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he took the bandaid off painfully slowly, but he
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: did take it off.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: You took it off and I give him credit for that,
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: but it's like just raw politics. Like what, what did you,
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: how did.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: That benefit you?
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: You got the left mad at you and all the
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: attacks you were worried about can still come.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like, I'm almost more offended as like a,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: like a practitioner of politics. I would have been annoyed
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: if you said I'm, I'm not voting for him for sure.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: But like, this was, this was the worst of all options. Also,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: does Chuck Schumer think he's going to take the secret
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: to his grave? Like he's going to face reporters and
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: they're just going to stop. Like people are going to
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: keep asking who you voted for. It's so annoying. Secret ballot,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: secret ballot. He's never going to come on Pod Save America.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: That's the only thing we're going to ask.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: He's not invited.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Who would you vote for? Who would you vote for, Chuck?
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Tell us. Come on. Was it Sliwa?
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: He shows up at the studio and there's just in
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: his chair is a new piece of crooked merch called
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: that says closeted homosexual waiting for him.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: Remember when people were rocking homosexual shirts like in real life?
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: A lot of people's 2020 tweets did not age well,
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: I would say that.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Well, Let us never say his name again.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: That's actually, fuck yes, that's it.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: In the words of the next mayor of New York City.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Let us defile the words of his father.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Great night. Great night, everyone. We're still alive. We're still kicking.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Democracy is not dead yet. So everyone should feel good
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: about that. Thank you to everyone who volunteered in this election,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: who got out there and voted, who talked to your
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: friends about it. It really mattered. And we'll see you
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: guys in D.C. See you at Cricket Con. See you
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: at Cricket Con.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: What a time to all get together in person.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Better than the alternative. Having gotten crushed.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: See you guys soon.
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  Speaker 5: Bye, everyone.
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• 48:25
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• 48:28
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