Latest / Silver FM 100.6 / Dear Life Kit: How much advice is too much advice?
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- 0:24Speaker 3: I tell them once. I say my piece once. And
- 0:26Speaker 3: after that, that's on you. Because when you start nagging them, Yeah.
- 0:30Speaker 3: It's not your job to nag him. You told him.
- 0:31Speaker 3: You led the horse to water. Will the horse drink it?
- 0:34Speaker 3: I don't even know how the idiom goes, but you
- 0:35Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Or will the horse die of thirst?
- 0:39Speaker 3: Let the horse, let that money go.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Let the horse die of thirst. You stopped short of
- 0:43Speaker 2: saying let the horse die of thirst, I want to
- 0:45Speaker 2: say for the record.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Did I say that or Andy said that? I'm throwing
- 0:48Speaker 3: Andy under the bus.
- 0:49Speaker 4: Is that the end of the idiom?
- 0:51Speaker 5: That is so dark.
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- 0:58Speaker 2: Dear Life Kit, where we answer your questions with help
- 1:01Speaker 2: from the collective wisdom in our Life Kit archives. Reporter
- 1:04Speaker 2: Andy Tegel is here. Hey, Andy.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Hey, Mariel.
- 1:07Speaker 2: And we've also got our digital editor, Malika Gareeb here. Hey, Malika.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Hello.
- 1:12Speaker 2: So I'm going to get right into it. Our first
- 1:14Speaker 2: question is, Dear Life Kit, I work in unclaimed property
- 1:20Speaker 2: for the state. I have several friends who have unclaimed funds.
- 1:24Speaker 2: How many times am I allowed to remind them of
- 1:26Speaker 2: this before it becomes overbearing and instead of being a
- 1:29Speaker 2: welcome surprise, it becomes an undue burden? I truly want
- 1:33Speaker 2: to help them reclaim the funds. Over $ 5, 000 for one
- 1:36Speaker 2: of them. But he actually thinks it's a scam. It
- 1:38Speaker 2: is not. How can I help my friends get their
- 1:40Speaker 2: money back without being annoying? Okay, have y'all heard of
- 1:43Speaker 2: unclaimed funds?
- 1:44Speaker 3: I have not.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Okay, basically, this is when the state or federal government
- 1:51Speaker 2: collects money that you forgot about. That could be old
- 1:55Speaker 2: bank accounts or uncashed checks, stock certificates, unused gift cards.
- 2:00Speaker 2: And those things are available to you through the government.
- 2:05Speaker 2: If you search your name, you can see if you
- 2:08Speaker 2: have any money there.
- 2:09Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
- 2:09Speaker 3: I have to do this right now. I'm looking it up.
- 2:12Speaker 3: You guys keep talking and I'll let you know if
- 2:13Speaker 3: I have free money.
- 2:14Speaker 7: Okay.
- 2:14Speaker 8: And is it like every state, like everywhere you've lived?
- 2:17Speaker 8: So you'd have to look up California and like D.C.
- 2:19Speaker 2: And... I think there are websites where you can check
- 2:21Speaker 2: across the country. You can check all the states.
- 2:24Speaker 3: I have no money.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Well, that's the Tennessee one, but you might have unclaimed
- 2:28Speaker 2: money in another state.
- 2:30Speaker 9: All right.
- 2:30Speaker 2: All right.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Stand by. Stand by.
- 2:32Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I get how frustrated this question
- 2:35Speaker 2: asker is because they know all about this and they're like, hey,
- 2:39Speaker 2: I want you to get your $ 5, 000 back. But this
- 2:41Speaker 2: person is like, I think it's a scam. And the
- 2:43Speaker 2: thing is, you can't really convince people otherwise, and it's
- 2:46Speaker 2: not your job to You know, we know this at LifeKit.
- 2:50Speaker 2: We've done a lot of reporting, especially on money and
- 2:54Speaker 2: how people can optimize their spending, their savings, their investments.
- 3:00Speaker 2: But you can only tell someone so many times to like,
- 3:02Speaker 2: you should really invest for retirement and get your employer
- 3:05Speaker 2: a match or get a high yield savings account. Like
- 3:07Speaker 2: you can't literally make them do it.
- 3:10Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 3:10Speaker 4: I feel that so deeply. How much?
- 3:13Speaker 3: I have $ 50. What is it from?
- 3:15Speaker 2: Does it say?
- 3:16Speaker 3: Wait, first of all, it says owner name Garib H.
- 3:19Speaker 4: That's not you.
- 3:19Speaker 2: That's not you. Oh, dang.
- 3:21Speaker 3: It's sad though, but I could see how this would work.
- 3:23Speaker 3: I would be instantly claiming it. I don't know what
- 3:25Speaker 3: this person is thinking. They need to go right now
- 3:28Speaker 3: and like look up their information.
- 3:30Speaker 4: So this is how our letter writer feels.
- 3:31Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 3:32Speaker 8: Seeing your friend's name and being like, you have $ 5, 000.
- 3:35Speaker 4: What are you doing?
- 3:35Speaker 3: This is my rule with adults. This is my rule
- 3:37Speaker 3: with adults. You cannot tell another adult what to do.
- 3:40Speaker 3: You told them once, that's on them. You know what
- 3:42Speaker 3: I mean?
- 3:42Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 3:43Speaker 8: Yeah. I mean, like working for Life Kit, I feel
- 3:46Speaker 8: this person so deeply. I feel like I'm brimming with
- 3:48Speaker 8: information so often, you know, like we'll be talking about whatever.
- 3:52Speaker 4: I don't know. For me, it's parenting stuff.
- 3:54Speaker 8: I feel like I'm like the actually person, like actually,
- 3:57Speaker 8: you know, or like I was working on this episode.
- 3:59Speaker 4: You know, like I get a lot of eye rolls.
- 4:01Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:01Speaker 3: There's not a good way to give unsolicited advice to people.
- 4:04Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 4:04Speaker 3: There's never a good way.
- 4:05Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Here's what I would do. I would get everybody else
- 4:07Speaker 3: in the group to do their claims and everyone's getting money.
- 4:10Speaker 3: And everyone's like, oh my God, I got $ 50 in
- 4:12Speaker 3: the mail. What about you, Hal? Oh, Hal, I thought
- 4:14Speaker 3: you had 5,000.
- 4:14Speaker 4: You didn't apply for it.
- 4:16Speaker 5: What a dummy.
- 4:18Speaker 4: Negative peer pressure.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I would do.
- 4:21Speaker 2: I like it. I think what this comes down to
- 4:25Speaker 2: is that this person is trying to show love to
- 4:28Speaker 2: the people in their lives. That's the most charitable way
- 4:32Speaker 2: of seeing this. You could see it as they're trying
- 4:34Speaker 2: to control other people's lives, but I want to see
- 4:38Speaker 2: the charitable way that they're trying to show love to
- 4:40Speaker 2: other people. And that doesn't always mean fixing something for someone.
- 4:45Speaker 2: And it doesn't always mean optimizing their life. I mean,
- 4:48Speaker 2: it came up in our cancer support episode, how to
- 4:50Speaker 2: support someone who's going through cancer. Like the answer isn't
- 4:54Speaker 2: usually to try to fix it for them. How could
- 4:57Speaker 2: you fix it for them? It's too big, you know,
- 4:59Speaker 2: but it's to say, how are you doing today? Where
- 5:02Speaker 2: are you with this today? And you can show that
- 5:05Speaker 2: kind of love to people day after day, like check
- 5:08Speaker 2: in on them. But you don't have to get involved
- 5:11Speaker 2: in their finances. You can tell them about the five
- 5:13Speaker 2: grand the one time, maybe twice if it's your sibling.
- 5:16Speaker 2: But after that, love them in a different way.
- 5:19Speaker 3: Let go of the reins. Let the crumbs fall where
- 5:21Speaker 3: they may.
- 5:22Speaker 4: You have done your part.
- 5:23Speaker 9: Yeah.
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- 6:41Speaker 2: All right, next question. Dear LifeKids, After a series of
- 6:45Speaker 2: clashes with his parents, my husband has made the difficult
- 6:48Speaker 2: decision to stop contacting them. While he doesn't get his
- 6:51Speaker 2: parents' texts and voicemails, I still do. The messages are
- 6:55Speaker 2: often affectionate or loving, usually from his mother. Should I
- 6:59Speaker 2: advise him to listen to these messages? Or should I
- 7:02Speaker 2: keep listening to the messages and ignore how sad it
- 7:04Speaker 2: makes me that his parents are trying in vain to
- 7:07Speaker 2: reach out?
- 7:08Speaker 3: I have one big thing to say to this letter writer.
- 7:11Speaker 3: This is not about you. This is literally... This boundary
- 7:15Speaker 3: that your husband is holding with his parents is not
- 7:18Speaker 3: about you. And I think it's so sweet that you
- 7:21Speaker 3: are in there and listening to all of it. But like,
- 7:25Speaker 3: I think that you just need to step back for
- 7:27Speaker 3: a second.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:29Speaker 3: And I wanted to share a really great piece of
- 7:33Speaker 3: advice from author and therapist Andrea Bonnier from an interview
- 7:37Speaker 3: we did back in 2021 about estrangement. And she says
- 7:41Speaker 3: that the challenge of creating a boundary like this is
- 7:42Speaker 3: having other people understand it.
- 7:44Speaker 11: We can have the best laid plan for why our
- 7:47Speaker 11: boundaries are meaningful to us and why we need to
- 7:50Speaker 11: assert them for our own mental health. But sometimes the
- 7:53Speaker 11: people in our lives don't respond as well as we
- 7:56Speaker 11: would hope, or they can't really even understand where we're
- 7:59Speaker 11: coming from.
- 8:00Speaker 3: What it sounds like to me is that the letter
- 8:01Speaker 3: writer is having trouble understanding what the boundaries are that
- 8:06Speaker 3: their partner has with their parents. Where does that leave
- 8:08Speaker 3: the spouse?
- 8:11Speaker 4: This is a hard one.
- 8:13Speaker 5: I think.
- 8:14Speaker 8: that if your spouse has drawn that line in the sand,
- 8:19Speaker 8: then it is your job to hold that line. So
- 8:22Speaker 8: if you're deciding to listen to those voicemails, to read
- 8:25Speaker 8: those texts, that's still crossing that line.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Because they block this person, right?
- 8:29Speaker 6: Right.
- 8:29Speaker 4: They block them for a reason. They don't want it.
- 8:31Speaker 3: Here's my question. should that person go back to their
- 8:35Speaker 3: spouse and try to re-understand and have their spouse re-explain
- 8:39Speaker 3: the boundary?
- 8:40Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 8:40Speaker 8: Or like if you want to challenge that boundary, if
- 8:42Speaker 8: you want to talk to them about it or say like,
- 8:44Speaker 8: I think maybe it's time to revisit this.
- 8:47Speaker 4: I think, you know, and that's something else.
- 8:49Speaker 2: I think also if you were going to challenge that boundary,
- 8:52Speaker 2: like you should have a really good reason. There are
- 8:54Speaker 2: also scenarios where people basically just ghost their family And
- 8:58Speaker 2: they don't ever tell them why. And so if it's
- 9:01Speaker 2: one of those scenarios and you think your partner really
- 9:03Speaker 2: hasn't communicated with the family or it's something that's like,
- 9:08Speaker 2: for lack of a better way of saying this, not
- 9:10Speaker 2: that serious, you know, like there's a spectrum of reasons
- 9:13Speaker 2: that people can be estranged. If you as their partner
- 9:15Speaker 2: really think like this is not the kind of thing
- 9:17Speaker 2: that you get estranged over or like I don't think
- 9:20Speaker 2: your family even understands or like This is important enough
- 9:23Speaker 2: because we have kids and I think they would really
- 9:26Speaker 2: like to know their grandparents. If you feel like you
- 9:28Speaker 2: have enough of a stake in it, then you could
- 9:31Speaker 2: revisit it with this person. But otherwise, you know, it's
- 9:38Speaker 2: not really your choice to make.
- 9:40Speaker 8: I think that some of the best marriage advice that
- 9:41Speaker 8: I've ever gotten was from my brother-in-law who got it
- 9:44Speaker 8: from someone else.
- 9:45Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 9:45Speaker 4: Just say something or let it go.
- 9:48Speaker 8: Like if you're upset, either it's important enough to talk
- 9:50Speaker 8: about or just Let it roll off your shoulders.
- 9:53Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 9:53Speaker 4: It's one or the other.
- 9:53Speaker 3: I actually have never heard of that marriage advice before,
- 9:56Speaker 3: but I love it.
- 9:57Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 9:57Speaker 4: It's really helpful, I think.
- 9:58Speaker 11: All right.
- 9:59Speaker 2: Next question. Dear Life Kit, I need help addressing the
- 10:03Speaker 2: difference between how my wife and I view food and
- 10:07Speaker 2: how this relates to my kids. My wife is a
- 10:09Speaker 2: great woman who grew up without restrictions on sweets. She
- 10:12Speaker 2: brings donuts and candy into the house and there's too
- 10:15Speaker 2: much of it. When I try to tell her that
- 10:17Speaker 2: it's too much, that the kids don't have self-control, she
- 10:20Speaker 2: refuses to alter how much she brings in the home.
- 10:23Speaker 2: I am a broken record player with the eat a
- 10:25Speaker 2: piece of fruit or a vegetable response to I'm hungry.
- 10:29Speaker 2: Other than bringing in more fruit and vegetables, how do
- 10:32Speaker 2: I get my wife to cut back on sweets?
- 10:35Speaker 4: There are a lot of questions in this question.
- 10:38Speaker 3: I have a lot of questions in this question too.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Well, it's complicated because they have kids. So if it
- 10:45Speaker 2: was just the couple... then you got to think about
- 10:49Speaker 2: how much control you should really be exerting over what
- 10:53Speaker 2: another adult is eating. But because there are the kids,
- 10:58Speaker 2: you should be guiding what they're eating and making sure
- 11:02Speaker 2: that they're getting enough nutrition and not eating too much sugar.
- 11:05Speaker 4: You know what this question is giving for me?
- 11:07Speaker 5: It's giving.
- 11:08Speaker 8: My wife divorced me over a pile of dirty dishes
- 11:11Speaker 8: in the sink, and I have no idea what's going on.
- 11:13Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
- 11:14Speaker 8: This is a question about sweets, but to me, it's
- 11:17Speaker 8: about a lot more. There's a lot hiding under this
- 11:20Speaker 8: pile of donuts and candy in the kitchen.
- 11:22Speaker 3: Unearth it. Go.
- 11:24Speaker 5: Okay.
- 11:24Speaker 8: So what catches me here is the phrase, she refuses.
- 11:28Speaker 8: She refuses to alter how much candy she brings into
- 11:30Speaker 8: the home. That's a pretty strong response, especially if you
- 11:33Speaker 8: have children.
- 11:33Speaker 3: Also- It sounds a little bit passive aggressive that she
- 11:36Speaker 3: continues to bring even though he said.
- 11:38Speaker 4: That's exactly what I'm saying.
- 11:39Speaker 9: You know what I mean?
- 11:39Speaker 8: Like I'm assuming this person knows that like donuts and
- 11:42Speaker 8: candy at every single meal is a bad idea.
- 11:44Speaker 9: Right?
- 11:45Speaker 4: So like.
- 11:46Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 11:46Speaker 3: It's like she's doing it to spite him.
- 11:48Speaker 9: Exactly.
- 11:48Speaker 8: So I'm wondering like how are these conversations going? This
- 11:51Speaker 8: is like not value neutral. This candy signifies something is
- 11:55Speaker 8: what I'm guessing. And you need to get underneath the
- 11:58Speaker 8: why is what is my advice.
- 11:59Speaker 3: Is this more about control? This is the control episode.
- 12:02Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:02Speaker 3: One thing is that like every parent knows that like
- 12:05Speaker 3: you can't just tell kids to eat vegetables and fruits, right?
- 12:08Speaker 3: You just can't tell them that. It has to be
- 12:09Speaker 3: a whole lifestyle. You have to have it readily available.
- 12:12Speaker 3: You have to have it cut and ready for them.
- 12:15Speaker 3: And they say no the first time, then you have
- 12:17Speaker 3: to reintroduce it, keep feeding to it. We have a
- 12:19Speaker 3: whole episode on this, how to get your kids to
- 12:21Speaker 3: eat veggies, right? And what was the bottom line on that?
- 12:23Speaker 3: Do y'all remember?
- 12:24Speaker 8: Don't get discouraged if they don't like it the first time.
- 12:26Speaker 8: Kids need a lot more introduction than you think they need.
- 12:29Speaker 8: It's like at least 10 tries of a food. Flavor conditioning,
- 12:33Speaker 8: that's where you pair a new food with foods that
- 12:35Speaker 8: they already like. For example, pairing carrots with a sauce
- 12:38Speaker 8: that they already like, grating it into a muffin in
- 12:40Speaker 8: the morning, trying a lot of different combinations so that
- 12:43Speaker 8: they associate the new food with a food that they
- 12:46Speaker 8: already like. Get them when they're hungry. There's a lot
- 12:48Speaker 8: of good studies about that, like when you get them
- 12:50Speaker 8: right back after school or after daycare. They're a lot
- 12:53Speaker 8: more likely to reach for those carrots or the cucumber
- 12:57Speaker 8: or the celery. And then getting kids involved in prep,
- 13:00Speaker 8: getting your wife involved in prep. If you're all making
- 13:02Speaker 8: a meal together, they're a lot more likely to be
- 13:04Speaker 8: excited about those tomatoes that they chop themselves, that broccoli
- 13:08Speaker 8: that they chop themselves, things like that.
- 13:09Speaker 4: Maybe that's something that you can all work on.
- 13:12Speaker 3: I love those tips. And actually, I was thinking in
- 13:13Speaker 3: my mind of like, oh, yeah, I got to make
- 13:15Speaker 3: that little vegetable tray to have ready for Gus when
- 13:18Speaker 3: he comes home from school.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 13:19Speaker 3: When he's like super duper hungry and like will literally
- 13:21Speaker 3: eat anything. So good reminder. The other thing too is
- 13:24Speaker 3: like to reassign value to like the sweets. Like maybe,
- 13:27Speaker 3: maybe your wife really does think of sweets as like
- 13:30Speaker 3: a really big treat or award. And like with kids,
- 13:34Speaker 3: one of the things that, I mean, I personally do
- 13:37Speaker 3: is try to like offer other treats instead of actual sweets,
- 13:41Speaker 3: like a new book or like a trip to the
- 13:43Speaker 3: library or, you know, Stickers. Literally anything else. Stickers, exactly.
- 13:48Speaker 2: I think I would just remember, too, as the letter writer,
- 13:51Speaker 2: even if you and your wife split up, there would
- 13:55Speaker 2: be two separate houses, most likely, and your wife would
- 13:59Speaker 2: be giving them sweets and you'd be giving them vegetables
- 14:03Speaker 2: and fruits, right? So you have to figure this out
- 14:06Speaker 2: either way. And I think, like, try to find a
- 14:09Speaker 2: way to make fruits and vegetables appealing so that your kids.
- 14:16Speaker 2: Consider reaching for that instead of a piece of candy.
- 14:21Speaker 2: And I know that that sounds impossible, but show them
- 14:25Speaker 2: the best of what the farmer's market or, you know,
- 14:29Speaker 2: your fruit and vegetable vendor has to offer. Like think
- 14:32Speaker 2: about what's in season, taste a bit of it first yourself,
- 14:36Speaker 2: show them how amazing fruits and veggies can be. All right,
- 14:42Speaker 2: that's our show. Do you have a tricky question about
- 14:46Speaker 2: relationships or social etiquette or work culture or something else?
- 14:51Speaker 2: Send it to us at npr.org slash Dear Life Kit.
- 14:55Speaker 2: This episode of Life Kit was produced by Sylvie Douglas.
- 14:58Speaker 2: Our digital editor is Malika Gareeb, and our visuals editor
- 15:02Speaker 2: is CJ Rikulan. Megan Cain is our senior supervising editor,
- 15:06Speaker 2: and Lauren Gonzalez is our executive producer. Our production team
- 15:09Speaker 2: also includes Andy Tegel, Claire Marie Schneider, Margaret Serino, and
- 15:13Speaker 2: Lennon Sherburn. Engineering support comes from Tiffany Vera Castro. I'm
- 15:18Speaker 2: Mariel Cigarra. Thanks for listening.
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