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Vick's Flicks, Ep. 177: Gerard Butler · Nashville Movie Dispatch

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  Speaker 1: And now, ladies and gentlemen, the Sobros Network proudly brings
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  Speaker 1: to you some in depth movie discussion with a resident
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  Speaker 1: film critic, Brandon.
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  Speaker 2: Vic At the evening, everyone, the VIC Flicks Podcast is here.
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  Speaker 3: Happy New Year, and welcome back for another episode of
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  Speaker 3: the VIC Flicks Podcast right here on Nashville Movie Dispatch.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be your host for the show, the eic at
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  Speaker 3: Sobros Network, Big Natural Stony Keeley. You can follow me
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  Speaker 3: is available at nashvillemovidispatch dot substack dot com. Joined as
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  Speaker 3: usual by the man whose namesake this show bears. He's
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  Speaker 3: the star of the show. He is a board member
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  Speaker 3: of the Music City Film Critics Association. He is a
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  Speaker 3: member of the South Eastern Film Critics Association. He's our
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  Speaker 3: resident film critic, mister big shot himself, Brandon Vick. Brandon,
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  Speaker 3: how you doing today, my man?
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  Speaker 4: Not too bad?
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  Speaker 2: Still hungover from New Year's Yeah, I had to finish
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  Speaker 2: that Evan Williams eggnog. Oh that's how I celebrated.
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  Speaker 3: So you you finished, you polished off the bottle yourself
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  Speaker 3: had yep.
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  Speaker 2: I put him in champagne glasses, yep. And and then
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  Speaker 2: I had some cheetos.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's a great combination. That reminds me of
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  Speaker 3: when we were teenagers and every get together we used
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  Speaker 3: to have would have a bag of spicy or Nacho
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  Speaker 3: derinos and a gallon of chocolate milk.
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  Speaker 2: The purity daries, oh yeah, yeah, or with with the chips.
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  Speaker 2: I remember, like when we discovered code red mountain dew.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, that's just a stomach ache waiting to happen.
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  Speaker 2: And I think our long lost friend Cliff is the
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  Speaker 2: one who first brought in spicy or not jo, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if I'd had them before, I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's him or did he. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how I got code red either because it was
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  Speaker 2: from a friend, and then I got some because I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I used to suck down some code red though. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you did like a vacuum. I could there was You
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  Speaker 3: could have cut me open at any given moment in
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  Speaker 3: the year two thousand and two and I would have
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  Speaker 3: just spilled cod red everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: I just wonder it probably tastes like shit.
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  Speaker 3: I've had it, because it's in modern times they still
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  Speaker 3: make it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I saw it like at one of the
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  Speaker 2: like dispensers at one of the places, and I'm like, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Get it at seven eleven phone code red and it's
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's like you drink it and you're like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: a teenager would love this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, not a forty year old man, but this. But
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  Speaker 2: if I was young again.
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  Speaker 3: I just want my diet coke.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just want my coke zero.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, give me some coke zero and I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Are you at a point where like when you
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  Speaker 2: go to a restaurant or like especially like like a
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  Speaker 2: subway or McDonald's or something, which a lot of them
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  Speaker 2: have that machinery you can choose anything now, but like
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  Speaker 2: I still go and they like there is no zero
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  Speaker 2: sugar anything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's like diet.
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  Speaker 2: Like they don't like they only have diet coke or
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  Speaker 2: coke or it's only pepsi and diet pepsi. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't like pepsi, but pepsi zero sugar is actually pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously that's the only thing I get at Regal
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  Speaker 2: now because it's all pepsi products.
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  Speaker 4: But man, yeah, but do you ever.
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  Speaker 2: Find yourself going where it's like and I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I guess most people don't really care, because I mean people.
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  Speaker 3: Will have But I feel like coke zero is is
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  Speaker 3: more prevalent than at least it used to. Like, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like we've made progress.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a very vile. Yeah, it's a very
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  Speaker 2: much an option, which now when they don't have it,
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  Speaker 2: I like clutch my pearls.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, what, Yeah, I know, what do you mean
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  Speaker 3: the times?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know what I do. I showing
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  Speaker 2: my lab results from my last A one C and
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  Speaker 2: I said, I bet this is why you're.
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  Speaker 3: Putting my life at risk by not having coke zero
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  Speaker 3: on your soda fountain.
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  Speaker 2: And when that waitress says, shouldn't you probably just drink water?
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  Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, you're probably right, live a little,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't come to out back for your expertise.
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  Speaker 3: Man, there's a place I haven't been in ages.
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  Speaker 2: We went sometime last year, really, yeah, because it's close
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  Speaker 2: to the house, and and we forget even though we
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  Speaker 2: go right by it because our grocery store is literally
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  Speaker 2: maybe four places down. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, it's fine.
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  Speaker 3: That's the only o Charlie's left round too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another place that I want to.
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  Speaker 3: And Lebanon, I get a hankering for it every once
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  Speaker 3: in a while, just a stone cold hankering. Here's the thing,
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  Speaker 3: the potato soup and their chicken fingers.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, because neither of those places have anything that I
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  Speaker 2: crave or that I can't get.
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  Speaker 4: Somewhere else that I like better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. A place I've been
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  Speaker 2: wanting to go to. It's Party Foul, but my wife
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  Speaker 2: doesn't like it, and my son can't eat anything there.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that don't like Party Foul,
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  Speaker 3: but they've but I haven't made efforts to change the
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  Speaker 3: menu recently, and well, you know they're still not great.
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  Speaker 4: Is there two left? There's quite a few that are gone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. There was a rumor about Party Foul closing down
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  Speaker 3: a couple of springs ago, and I can't remember, but
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  Speaker 3: I know they have closed down. The one in the
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  Speaker 3: Gulch is gone well, and.
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  Speaker 2: The one in Murpher's Bro's gone. Oh that closed to
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  Speaker 2: the one in Cool Springs is gone, damn. So it's
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  Speaker 2: just I think it's just the original and Donaldson.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, So I think that's a surprise. I thought the
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  Speaker 3: Gulch was the original?
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  Speaker 4: Was it is that the original?
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  Speaker 3: I know for a fact that one's closed because I
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  Speaker 3: drive by it every Thursday night for football and other
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  Speaker 3: f words.
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  Speaker 2: I h skipped across the parking lot because that's where
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  Speaker 2: I was going to go before a movie and there
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  Speaker 2: was no tables, there was no seats, and realized and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, how long has this been gone? And my
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  Speaker 2: wife told me because we I swear we were only
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  Speaker 2: there I don't know how many months ago in the
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  Speaker 2: Murphis barl One because I had a brother in law
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  Speaker 2: that lived up there and they were going to go there.
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  Speaker 2: And she text me, she's like, it's closed.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, cool.
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  Speaker 4: Did they fall bankruptcy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know. Things have changed.
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  Speaker 4: So now I'm thinking I might not be able to
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  Speaker 4: go to this gunner Goat.
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  Speaker 3: You better go as soon as you possibly can.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I see you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's stop this podcast, right, I mean, it's not
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  Speaker 3: like the this sound would be. Okay, I won't, I won't.
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  Speaker 4: The man is still a human being.
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  Speaker 3: You're right, You're right. The filmography, Okay, I'll put it
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  Speaker 3: this way diplomatically as I can. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 3: Gerard Butler.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like this is probably the weakest filmography we'll
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  Speaker 3: have discussed on this show.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's probably yeah, that's probably true.
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  Speaker 3: And it's it makes me sad because I think he's
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  Speaker 3: done some really cool stuff before.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's a cool guy. I see, it seems
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  Speaker 2: like he's a cool It.
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  Speaker 3: Seems like a really cool guy. Yeah, started off in
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  Speaker 3: like law school, was going to be a lawyer and
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  Speaker 3: then didn't make it because he loved to go out
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  Speaker 3: drinking and partying and oh, yeah, he's scottishudn't he? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: got fired a week before he was supposed to start
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  Speaker 3: working for a company, and then he just went into
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  Speaker 3: acting and the rest is history.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's where you can still drink and party
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  Speaker 4: and stuff and no one cares.
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  Speaker 3: I guess so. But the reason we're talking about Gerard
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  Speaker 3: Butler is that Greenland two is coming out. And that's
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  Speaker 3: not the exact title of the film Greenland two Migration.
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  Speaker 3: The first Greenland came out in twenty twenty. It was
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  Speaker 3: a one of the COVID year, one of those ones
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  Speaker 3: that I saw the trailer for Greenland too, and was like,
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  Speaker 3: I missed Greenland. I don't where did the first one
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  Speaker 3: come from.
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  Speaker 2: I will tell you it is better than you think
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  Speaker 2: it is, and it's it has It's not the movie
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  Speaker 2: you think it is based off the trailers. It is,
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  Speaker 2: but there's a lot more heart and stuff to it
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of actual, like good acting on his part.
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  Speaker 2: So does it need hold on? Does it need a sequel? No?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna ask what does that mean for
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  Speaker 3: your optimism levels?
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  Speaker 2: I have a feeling we're about to enter really forgettable
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  Speaker 2: Gerard Butler sequel.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, which there are a few of those littered throughout
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  Speaker 3: the years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, here's the thing when we go through this
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  Speaker 2: the movies, there are movies that really surprise me and
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  Speaker 2: actually how good they are and how good he is
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  Speaker 2: in them. And then there's others that I just don't like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what would have caused you to leave
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  Speaker 2: your house and to leave your family to do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So start this conversation the way we start most
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  Speaker 3: of our conversations on this show. What was the first
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  Speaker 3: time that you noticed Gerard Butler? What was your introduction?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, probably three hundred.
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  Speaker 3: It was definitely three hundred for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not that I hadn't seen him and other stuff,
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  Speaker 2: but I wouldn't really know where he was. Matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: there's a movie he did before three hundred which I liked,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll be honest with you, I still forget to
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  Speaker 2: this day that he's in.
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  Speaker 3: There's a couple of the ones that are listed in
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  Speaker 3: his filmography that I'm like, I know I saw that, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I do not remember.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, the one I'm talking about, he is
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  Speaker 2: clearly in. I just the Gerard Butler and the movies
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  Speaker 2: post three hundred. That's not the type of movie. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'll let you well, we'll get to it. But yes,
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  Speaker 2: three hundred is when it was like, my God.
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  Speaker 3: He has his let's dig right into it.
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  Speaker 2: If God may a man, because he remember God has
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  Speaker 2: not made man. But if God had made a man,
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  Speaker 2: it would be Butler.
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  Speaker 3: He has a three hundreds very distinct voice. I would say, he.
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  Speaker 4: Has a very very you can't hide.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's you know, Gerard Butler when you see him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I think you don't mention the Gerard Butler.
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  Speaker 3: No, And it's it's really it's quite interesting because.
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  Speaker 4: So let's be careful the way you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: I know he's going to show up like James Cameron.
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  Speaker 2: Ye here, bust down that door, god forbid, kick a
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  Speaker 2: cat out the window.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the type of man he is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't either. I can. I can do my best,
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  Speaker 3: but it depends on whether or not my tummy hurts.
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  Speaker 2: That day exactly. You have Taco Bill.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I I do feel like it's interesting because there
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  Speaker 3: are a lot of actors that have his kind of
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  Speaker 3: filmography that are kind of forgettable and you kind of
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  Speaker 3: know him as like, oh, that's the guy from this,
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  Speaker 3: this and that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but Gerard Butler is has this filmography, but you
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  Speaker 3: know him as Gerard, Like he's very recognizable and distinguishable.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's probably a testament to his charisma,
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  Speaker 3: first and foremost accent, the accent, Like I think he
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  Speaker 3: stands out in a crowd.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I think, yeah, I mean you can't
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  Speaker 2: miss him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I I have to pause this recording back here
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  Speaker 3: on the Vick Flicks podcast and Brandon, what do you say?
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  Speaker 3: We just we dig into this filmography.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see nineteen ninety seven, he gets his first acting
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  Speaker 3: credit in a film called Missus Brown, British drama film
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  Speaker 3: starring Judy Ditch, Billy Connolly, Gerard Butler in his film debut,
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  Speaker 3: Wow About That, directed by John Madden.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, I know that one the coach.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's also in nineteen ninety seven gets a small
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  Speaker 3: role in Tomorrow and Never Dies, which is uh oh,
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  Speaker 3: James Bond, Pierce Brosnan. I I don't know if I
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  Speaker 3: ever even saw Tomorrow Never Dies.
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  Speaker 2: I did, I didn't see him, but I mean, was
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  Speaker 2: he a bad guy?
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he's foign. I'm sure he's a bad guy
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  Speaker 2: in a Bond movie.
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  Speaker 3: He's in Tail of the Mummy in nineteen ninety eight,
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  Speaker 3: never heard of it? Who is in this? It's Christopher
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  Speaker 3: Lee is the only person that I've heard of.
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  Speaker 4: I know him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Nineteen ninety nine he's in a film called Fast
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  Speaker 3: Food One More Kiss the Cherry Orchard. And then in
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  Speaker 3: two thousand he is in a film called Dracula two thousand.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, I've seen that.
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  Speaker 3: Which I don't remember him. I don't think I saw
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  Speaker 3: that movie because he plays Count Dracula.
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  Speaker 2: He does Oh okay, Well then that missed just been
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  Speaker 2: a horrible movie. So because that's what that one with
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  Speaker 2: Omar Epps in it, I feel like I see, I
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  Speaker 2: can see the cover and Omar Epps is like at
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  Speaker 2: the front of.
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  Speaker 3: It, Omar Epps, Christopher Plumber, and those are the only
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  Speaker 3: naors that I am.
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  Speaker 2: Christopher Plummer was thrown in that. Yeah, oh man, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So he's in a film called Harrison's Flowers. Brendan Gleeson's
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  Speaker 3: in that one.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, now we're talking.
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  Speaker 3: Jewel of the Sahara. That's a short film. And then
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  Speaker 3: two thousand and two he's in Shooters okay and rain
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  Speaker 3: a Fire. I don't remember him.
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember him in that either.
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  Speaker 3: Plays a character named Creedy see the Dragon, I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: He's in Lori Croft, tomb Raider, The Cradle of Life, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I two thousand and three.
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  Speaker 2: I do sort of remember him being in that one.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I do remember that.
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  Speaker 3: He is in Timeline in two thousand and five, the
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  Speaker 3: Paul Walker movie, which I don't remember him in that either.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember him in that, but I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if he was a bad guy or like the person
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  Speaker 2: that he's on the poster.
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  Speaker 3: And he looks different, so I'm assuming.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I want to think he kind of like
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  Speaker 2: I might be wrong. Maybe I feel like he was
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  Speaker 2: like helping her but actually was a bad guy. Or
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  Speaker 2: maybe he really was like her love interests sorta.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I could be making all of this up.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Two thousand and four, he's in the Phantom of the Opera.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's the movie I was talking about because he's
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  Speaker 2: the Phantom, and I totally forget he's in this musical adaptation.
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  Speaker 4: But he was good in it well, and that, like,
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  Speaker 4: I just forget it was him.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently it was his role in Dracula two thousand that
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  Speaker 3: got him this role. Oh and then he had to
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  Speaker 3: start taking singing lessons with a vocal coach.
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  Speaker 4: You mean he couldn't sing before to.
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  Speaker 3: Learn how to sing to do this film. I've never seen.
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  Speaker 4: It, but it's good and he's good in it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I.
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  Speaker 2: Just I don't ever associate that with him. And I
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  Speaker 2: guess because of this brand costume. He's not that Gerard Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: muscle bound, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, not the Gerard Butler were used to correct anything
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  Speaker 3: from this first decade or so.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 4: The movies. I don't know if any of them are good.
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  Speaker 3: Who else have we done this for where it's like
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  Speaker 3: we were at this point. We're at two thousand and
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  Speaker 3: fourths Phantom of the Opera his first credits in ninety seven.
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  Speaker 3: We're seven years into his filmography, and we're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know that, I mean, don't remember him in.
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  Speaker 2: I mean tomb Raider. I guess is the one that
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  Speaker 2: I mean is you know? I mean, it's not like
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  Speaker 2: that one was like an awesome movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do want to go back and rewatch
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  Speaker 3: Rain of Fire because I loved that movie when I
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  Speaker 3: was sixteen years old.
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  Speaker 2: I do remember it being pretty cool, and.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of has a reputation now with looking back
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  Speaker 3: where it's like not very well received. So it kind
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  Speaker 3: of makes me nervous.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, I mean I have I feel like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff we like back then, I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know if it was good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to look and see what it's rutting for the.
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  Speaker 2: Reason, you know, for probably totally different reasons now than
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  Speaker 2: when we watched it back then.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to guess what the tomato meter is
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  Speaker 3: for Rain a Fire? Forty three, forty one the Popcorn
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  Speaker 3: Meter sixty seven forty nine. Oh God, people did not
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: like Rain of Fire. I don't remember Gerard Butler in
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Rain of Fire.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I don't either, but.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: I know I had that DVD and I watched that
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: movie a million times when I was a teenager. So hey,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe that's maybe I was the target demo.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: But depending on again, how he looked is it's just
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: not the Gerard Butler we think we know.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Timeline's another one that's popped up a couple of times
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: throughout our podcasting days that I want to go to.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Don't remember liking it when I saw it.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I don't remember seeing it. I just know that I have.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Some I would say, I think we went to the
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: theater to see it, but I just remember not liking it.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: So also in two thousand and four, he's in Dear Frankie. Okay,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: two thousand and five, he's in the Game of Their Lives.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: He's in BeO Wolf and Grendel, where he plays BeO
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Wolf and Stellan scars guards.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: In that as well, he shared the screen with some
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: pretty well.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: I don't think I saw that BeO Wolf.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I didn't either. He's in Let's see Wrath of Gods,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: where he's also a co producer that he plays himself.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know what any of this stuff is.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: We should skip that one.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: But we get to three hundred. I know that one,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: and from there he follows it up with Yes I
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Love You, which I kind of remember that like an interesting.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: He's changed into sweet rom com.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting rebound there Off of three hundred. He does
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: a film called Nim's Island in two thousand and eight,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: also works with Guy Ritchie on Rock and Roller. Yeah,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I do remember him in that one. That's a cool one.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Two thousand and nine he's in The Ugly Truth, So
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: we're really leaning into like the rom com stuff. At
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: this point. He's in a film called Gamer science fiction
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: action film. He's the only one on the poster.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: And then we also had Law Abiding Citizen in two
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: thousand and nine, so it feels like we go into
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: twenty ten, we get The Bounty Hunter with Jeniff him
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: and Jennifer Aniston is the voice in How to Train
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Your Dragon. It's like we're it feels like two thousand
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: and nine twenty ten, we're getting into like the peak
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: of his stardom is do you think that's fair to say, yes,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: what from this period stands out to you?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Well, three hundred we talked about, which I would consider
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: that's obviously his big breakthrough.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: And I don't think that's just us. I mean from
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of the reading that I was doing prepping
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: for this episode, it feels like a lot of people
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: were like, yeah, I had no clue who this guy
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: was until three hundred, when.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Well, and he was his physicality, yeah, and that, and
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I think that's sort of what kind of led him
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: to some of these, isn't it other roles?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I guess?
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Isn't it weird to look back on that film in
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: film history? Is like what it did for Gerard Butler,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: but also what it did for Zack Snyder too, Yeah,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: because I mean that was that was a popular movie
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: for super popular in two thousand and six.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know the way it looked, what it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Was, how it performed at the box office or anything
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: like that, but the way that it looked, the style,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: the story, the everything about it was just like like
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: when we were twenty year olds in two thousand and six,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: we were in college watching this, like Wow, this is
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: this is so cool. I remember it being kind of
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: akin to Sin City there.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: It's just like, oh man, this style of filmmaking is
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: just this is the future. It's so cool and all
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: that stuff. And now it's like, I wish people would
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: shut the fuck up about Zack Snyder.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, And because one he's wore that out. Yeah,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: It's almost been twenty this is we're into twenty twenty six.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: We're only three hundred if I'm not mistaken. Came out
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: late spring, like we're only we're only a few months
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: away from this film we're talking about being twenty years old.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think it was March or April.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Ye, yeah, So, I don't know. It's just it's just
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: interesting to think about how a single film can be
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: a launching point for so much.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: But then how But then I think it also kind
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: of then speaks to their longevity. Yeah, and sort of
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: what are they doing? Not that not that either guy
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: and getting a job?
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: But was that the best?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of yeah, yeah, I say which
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people do like his Watchman.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of but a lot of
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: people do like that, but like Sucker Punch and whatever
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: that Dead movie is with Batista in Vegas.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he doesn't, it's not the movie.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Do you do a Superman movie in which and which
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: cut is out? Now?
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I've never seen a director make something and then hype
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: his cut of it later, which he did with that
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Vegas Dead movie too, And I just thought, can't you
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: just make your movie first and then just release it?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Like why does every why does every other director just
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: release what they need? Like I get if they go
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: back and listen, you know, Copela's gone back and changed
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: stuff in two.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: But first of all, he's no Copeland.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Second of all, he did it like I don't know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: twenty thirty years after. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I'm it's not even superhero stuff. I'm just like, you
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: can only feed off your same bullshit for so long.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I guess that's why Gerard Butler never worked with him again.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe I don't know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I've made I made that part up, but I don't think.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think they did.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just say his rom com phase. I
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: remember thinking, PS, I Love you was all right? Now?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: That was with Hillary Spike, who I think is a
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: great actress. The Ugly Truth was awful, The Bounty Hunter
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: was stupid. Gamer just kind of seemed like it reminded
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: me sort of like Doom. It's kind of just like
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a very forgettable, generic action movie. But you do have
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: the guy from three hundred in it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: What about Rock and Roller?
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I loved and still do. I love rock and Rolling?
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Where does that stand in your your your Guy Ritchie rankings?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: It's up there. I like, Uh, he's I wish he
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: would do more with Guy Ritchie.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I wish he would.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I know Guy Ritchie does three movies a year.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I was so Guy Ritchie doesn't stop, my God.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: So he should be able to.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Rock and roll. I remember that being like just cool,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: What did.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: You think of law abiding citizens?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: All right? So I really liked it when it came out.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I thought it was really cool and I liked that
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: side of Gerard Butler. Uh it was with Jamie Fox
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: in it. But I think as it's as I've gotten older,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I don't I haven't really revisited it, but I don't
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: think it probably holds up the same way. I don't
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: think it comes as cross as this kind of clever
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: uh mind game that he that that I thought the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: movie was or let me just say it could still be.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I just don't think it's as clever as I thought
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: If you're watching it for the first time in two
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: thousand and nine, probably feels pretty cool. Yes, if you're
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: watching it for the first time in twenty twenty six
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: after this barrage of movies that are kind of like androgynous,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: like they're all the same without defining qualities, yeah, it
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: probably feels like this is just another of his.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Movie and Jamie Fox had you know, it's a different
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Jamie Fox in two thousand and nine than it is
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. But this reminds me, and honestly,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I'd like to go and watch this one again. I
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: kind of feel like I was like that with Fracture,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the had Ryan Gosling and Anthony Hopkins. I remember, thing
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: is so cool. Yeah, they're so clever the way Anthony Hopkins.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: But now I'm like, if I watch it now, I
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: just wonder if it even like is remotely gonna give
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: me that same feeling of when I first watched it,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: and so part of me thinks I won't.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Oh very well talked about his voice a signature of his,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: like it was only a matter of time before, like
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: he gets his How to Train Your Dragon role. It's
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: perfect for him. He can do that for the rest
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: of his career, as long as they want to make
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: those movies.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Well, now he's the live action.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: He's the live action one, so like, go make your
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: money king.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well technically he can't unless they bring him back
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: to life.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, so listen, these movies have been out for
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: years and years.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Sorry to break it to everybody.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: But just in twenty ten alone, twenty ten to twenty eleven,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: he was the He voiced three How to Train Your
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Dragon movies because they do all the little spinoffs.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so now see, look,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: there's there's room for him to come back, and I'm
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: sure find.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Ways to voice uh yeah yeah, but yeah you could.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: And that's probably where he's lived most of his life
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: off How to Train Your Dragon money. I'm sure there's
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: games he's done too. For How to Train Your Dragon.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Twenty eleven, he's in Coriolanis, which is a Shakespeare brought
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: to the screen, directed and produced by Ray Fines.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Oh really about that?
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: His directorial debut Conlingus is that what it's called.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Coriolanis m he plays Tullus sees that alfidious.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Well, good for him, it's different.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Twenty eleven is also machine Gun Preacher.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I like that one. That's a sneaky one.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Twenty twelve is chasing Mavericks and playing for Keeps, so
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: dipping back into the rom com with Jessica Biel, Catherine
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Zeita Jones, Uma Thurman, Judy Greer, Dennis Quaid in supporting roles.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I feel like I remember seeing that, but I also
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: remember thinking that might be the worst of those wrong comes,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: so I really have tried to just pretend it didn't exist.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: He has a segment in movie forty three plays a
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: leprechan Yeah, well they're all. Twenty thirteen is also Olympus
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Has Fallen, which feels like there's like three different movies
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: like this at the time.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: White House Down, White House Down, Jamie Fox and Channing Tatum.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I remember that one.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen is How to Train Your Dragon two three hundred,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Rise of an Empire. He has a cameo in that. Yeah,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: And then twenty sixteen, who Gods of Egypt? Did you
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: ever see that? One?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I did?
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: What'd you think of it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: It's not very good.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, well that's a rough one.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: London has Fallen, and that the one has Chawick Boseman
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it is okay, I thought, yeah.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I just remember the special effects were awful. They were
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: trying to do a visual thing.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Anyway, go ahead, Yeah, London has Fallen, which I never saw.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I never saw. I thought Olympus has Fallen was okay
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: for like Friday night date night movie, a bag of
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: popcorn in the microwave.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: It's perfect for TNT. If that still a T and
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: T action.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Flick, then he's He's also in a movie called a
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Family Man in twenty sixteen. It's a drama that I
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: don't Yeah, I don't know.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I remember seeing it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen is Geostorm, No Thanks, twenty eighteen, Den of Thieves,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: The Vanishing and Hunter Killer twenty nineteen another How to
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Train Your Dragon movie, and then Angel Has Fallen correct,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: and then that gets us to twenty twenty in Greenland,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: and that just.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Geostorm. I don't think was that bad.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: But it's just.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Not that great, okay, that's fair.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: I like Din of Thieves.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's that character is probably one of, if
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: not his best character. It's it's perfect for him. He's
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: nasty but get stuff done, and but he is he's
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: sort of the like he's the cop that won't let
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: up with these robbers?
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Is that his best movie of the twenty tens?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Uh? I mean, if I don't include How to Train
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Your Dragon stuff, well yeah, that feels yeah. Then then A.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Machine Gun Preacher. You said you liked it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I liked it, but I liked Dn of Thieves better,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and I like, I really like because he does a
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: sequel to Din of Thieves that just came out a
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: year or two ago, And uh, I love that character,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Like he is perfect for that character.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: It's a good shootout thing. It tries. It's kind of
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: a ripoff of heat, but they try.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: How does this this stretch in the twenty tens compare
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: to that late two thousands run we were talking about
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: with three hundred and ps I Love You and Rock
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: and Roll up when we start like Law Buying Citizen,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: where we start to think like there's gonna be something here.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, at one point I remember people thinking like
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Gerard Butler's the next big movie star.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and for the action to me, it.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Feels like twenty ten's did anything but put him over
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: the top as a major movie star.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I think he was kind of maybe seen as like
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: a reliable name, like a draw yeah but not but
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: not but middle of the road, like when everything would
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: be put in theaters. Now that's I don't really think
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: that's that's the case. I think Gerard Butler has kind
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: of worked his way into a type of niche of
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: movies that he's going to do, and I think you're
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: gonna I think it becomes more clear by the time
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: we kind of get to from here on out, like
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: from that first Greenland movie on, we're gonna say, oh,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: this is sort of what he's doing. And some of
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: it ends up being better than you think.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: But a lot of them I think would be considered kind.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Of hard boiled action movies, gritty b movies, and I
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: think that's sort of where he's at. And then like, oh, okay,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I'll do the live action how Train your Dragon? Now
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I can go do other shit.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, in twenty twenty one, he's in a film
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: called cop Shop, so dark comedy action thriller.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Pleasantly surprised by that one. I want to say that's
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: probably been my favorite of his.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: For a long time. I did. I.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I think it's because I just didn't know what to expect.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: But the but the guy plays the story that centered
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: around it. It.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I like that more than than I thought I would.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: He's in twenty twenty two's last scene Alive.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: He's in Plane in twenty.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Twenty that one with Luke Luke Cage Guy.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Mike Colter, Yeah yeah, Kanda Horrorn, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, yep, I remember seeing that my action thriller.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: These all blend in from playing and stuff because he's
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: basically running around just shooting guns.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: And takes twenty twenty four off. Not sure what he
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: was doing then.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Action How to Train Your Dragon maybe Den.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Of Thieves two. Pantera is in twenty twenty five, along
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: with the live action How to Train Your Dragon, and
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: a film called In the Hand of Dante.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: That's like one that has like Oscar Eyes, has a
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: bunch of people in it and with all different like
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: it's just did Can or something, but there's a ton
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: of people in it.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, John Malkovich, Martin Scorsese, Al Pacino, Jason Momoa.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't even tell you what it was all about,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: but I think it's also like three hours long.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how did we I have not heard of this film?
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Well, it just it just hit some film festival this
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: year or last year.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: But yeah, again, ensemble, But that catches us up to
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Greenland two Migration. He's also in All Star Weekend, which
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: is that weird Jamie Fox led basketball movie that we've
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: talked about before.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean listen, he's not picky.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: That's and you know what I don't know. This is
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: where the conversation gets tricky. Well, I want to ask
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: if there's any of those films from the last five
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: years or you want to talk.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: About No again. The Dinner Thieves sequel is fine, It's
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: not as good as the first one. That kind of
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: becomes more of a team up with O'shee Jackson, who
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: was in the original. Again, the character is who is
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: is what's most appealing in all of that, and so
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Jar Butler is a great job with that. But no,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: no planes, I mean they're all The thing is is
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: that they all kind of are sort of the same thing,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: as everyone knows. I'm a huge fan of Mark Wahlberg
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: and the movies he does are all basically the same,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and Jerard Butler's guilty of that. But then he'll all
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: of a sudden kind of bring this kind of character
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: work to like Den of Thieves, or he's he's you know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: he's he's kind of he's showing you a different direction
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: with a movie that doesn't go how you think it's
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: gonna go, and like cop Shop and that's like I'm
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: excited for him for that, and like, yeah, go ahead,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: do all those how to Train Your Dragons. You deserve it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Everyone needs something like that.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: But then there's so many in this in this filmography
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: that's just like, I don't know if it's bad management
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: or he just said yes to whatever, or he thought, oh,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: a rom com with Katherine Heigel, which at the time
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: wasn't too crazy. She's knocked up, she's in twenty seven dresses.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, Jennifer Aniston, you just named all those people
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: on that plan for keeps, but I mean it doesn't
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: It just didn't mean anything, which means I think we
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: only like Gerard Butler just as an audience. We only
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: like him in one thing. And so I think Gerard
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Butler's gonna do that one thing.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I still feel like I don't know, maybe I'm
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: giving him too much credit here, but it feels like
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: there are flashes in some of his older movies. I
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: haven't watched. I honestly, the last movie that I watched
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: of his was probably Geostorm. Geostorm in twenty seventeen. I
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: don't think I've watched anything.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: That has been almost ten years since you've watched.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which it sounds like I need to go watch
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: cop Shop and didn't.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: He's at least the first one.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I kind of gave up on him a
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: long time ago to be to.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Be compared's the only one.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: It is like, I, you know, this is not this
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: is no longer. He's not a can't miss movie, can't
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: miss the movies right the way we thought he was
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: going to be. But looking back at some of his
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: performances during that time when we thought this guy was
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: going to be a big movie star, you see the
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: flashes of what he can really, like the spice he
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: can add to a film. And you talked about like
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: some of his character work, like he's a commanding presence
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: when he's on screen. Yeah, And so I don't know
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: if it's fair to say this is a question of
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: talent versus opportunity, but I just I really want to
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: see him get a role where he can show us
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: what he's really capable of. Well, and maybe that's the thing,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: is that maybe this is what he's capable of, and
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: this is just what we're gonna get. But I feel
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: like there are moments where you see more in his work,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: and that's what I want to see more of from him.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I think he's also just kind of been, you know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: put in a box. And and the thing is when
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: he has ventured out with these rom coms and stuff,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: they either either critically paanned and box office failures. I
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: don't think any of those were successful.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Now did any of them get? How many of these
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: got theatrical runs?
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Well, all the The Ugly Truth, Bounty Hunter, ps, I
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Love You, they all did get.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm sorry I was. Yeah, I'm mixed it up.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: But well, some of these action ones like Hunter Killer
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: didn't come out.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: That's what I was meaning was like, how many of
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: these films.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Are Yeah, but surprisingly more got into theaters than you
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: would think.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Surprise.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: So I but I feel like he's kind of tried
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: it but then also I mean just in general, what
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: does he like to do, what does he not like
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: to do? What is he being offered? Is this the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: best of the worst? You know? But then again it's
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: it just goes to show you depending on how how
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: you utilize. I mean, this probably goes for any actor,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: but Jard Butler's not really the type that's worked with.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Like you know, these big directors are highly influent, you know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: influential ones.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: So but he but.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: He's still out there putting in good work. But the
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: thing is you've got to find it. It's not it's
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: like you said, it's not a guaranteed thing. Not that
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: he has no talent when he's in plane, but it's
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: but it's like a you know, after the fourth Steven
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Sagal movie, I think he got it. Yeah, and I'm
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: not I don't want to compare him that. But back
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: in the day him Jean Claude van Dam, I feel
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: like this is what Gerard Butler is now that we
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: expect him to be in certain genres and it works
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: and and maybe something enjoys and then he's, like I said,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: you know, he kind of does the different ones in
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: like with how to train your Dragon. But the thing is,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: you know, Jarman, it's not like Gerard Butler's name is
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: on the poster of.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: How to Train Your Dragon, that's true.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's cool that they actually cast one voice
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: to be it, and he's perfect for it. And I
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: kind of hope in the second movie, I hope they
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: have Kate Blenchett actually be.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Hiccups Mama, hey does she voiced him?
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: So anyway?
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, but then it's like who thought Den
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: of Thieves would get a sequel? Who thought Great England
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: would get a sequel? And but then it's like he's
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: the thing is and I think we associate with like
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: what how could you do? But if if Greenland was
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: made for fifteen million and it made forty million, then
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: why not put it in? You know? And I have
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: And then if these is kind of like that, it's
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: the he you know, I mean, I'm sorry, but he's
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: not doing eighty hundred million dollar budgets, you know, not
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: not with like the sequels that yes, right, with How
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: to Train Your Dragon?
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Put that aside.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and the thing is, and I hate to
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: say it, but I feel like, you know, it's it's
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: always a back and forth just when you're naming these
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: movies where there's real potential opportunity, then we kind.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Of go back to what we expect.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: So of course it's it's ultimately not ultimately forgettable, which
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: makes me wonder like because Greenland was sort of this
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: surprise like, oh, you know what, this was pretty good
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: and what they were trying to do. So now that
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: they've like, oh, okay, well let's do this and call
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: it migration, I feel like we're about to hit this hm,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: you know, Plane and Hunter, Like we're about to hit
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: this thing where like, Okay, no one's gonna no one's
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: gonna go for this yeah, or it's not or it's
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: not gonna have the same impact because of it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: So, so do you do you have a uh Gerard
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Butler Mount Rushmore?
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean I would probably say three hundred, yeah.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Cop Shop Okay, okay. Kind of surprised by.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: That Den of Thieves because I really like that character. Yeah,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: and it's mostly and I'd like it, you know, it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: at its best in the in the first one. I'm
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: not really I'll say, how to Train Your Dragon, It.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Doesn't feel right to count him in that.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I'm with you there, and I don't really like to
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: him in the live action one, only because I still
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: like the animated trilogy the best. Anyway, So if I
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: if I, if I put that aside, if I just
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: take out How to Train Your Dragon, I would still
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: say cop Shop, Din of Thieves, three hundred, and I
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: mean just by going through them all. I mean, yeah,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I really did like Rock and Roller. Again, he's not
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: the only person in it, but I do it. But
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I did like that one. Yeah, I guess I could.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: It was four pretty good.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I could muster for there's a
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: lot of there's a lot of his stuff that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: I just haven't seen, you mean, the good stuff.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would go three hundred. I think
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I would go law abiding citizen. I think I would
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: probably put yeah. See, this is where I get into like,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I guess I'll put ps I Love You in there.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I guess I'll put Olympuses fallen in there.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: This is one of the saddest amount rushmoores, just like
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: picking the ones you've seen, I feel bad and then saying, oh,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: but listen, this is coming from a guy who has
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: not seen anything since twenty seventeen.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I just was like, I'm done.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: I would at least start with cop Shop.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one. Do you know if it's streaming anything?
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I don't, but.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I don't, but it's worth checking out.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Well, we found we have our methods.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can find it.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: We can find James.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Well, that's yeah.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Now when is he the coolest? That's that's probably donn
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: of Thieves.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: He's just an old knucklehead, as they like to call him.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, well we don't have any on history to talk about.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: So why not.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: I guess that's gonna do it for Gerard.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: But let me tell you first of all, I want.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: To watch the Phantom of the Opera. I'll leave on
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: that positive note. Oh okay, I do want to watch that.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take off rock and roll out put
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: that on. There you go, I see I forgot again. Yeah, sorry, Gerard,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: he's in the green room. I'm sorry, but yeah, I'm
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: glad we did it. I don't think I think he's
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: done some good stuff. I think he is somebody you
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: like you said, he's unmistakable, and I think it's I
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: think it's when we first were talking about it, I'm
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: like you like, this would be a good one.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I I still think there's like room. I
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: still feel like there's room for him to do some
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: different things. I think somebody's got to be willing to
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: give him a chance.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: I think right now he's working in that.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Mid movie level where you know, you keep it you
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: it's a low cost, but the returns are bigger than
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: the budget, and he's he's he's reliable in that way.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: He's reliable to put it and I think that's kind
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: of why he's gotten some of these movies that we've gotten.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: And then there's sometimes you get something like huh uh,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: my time's up.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: No, that's the music's playing in our ears.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: But oh okay. But but then, like I said, you
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: have something like dinn at these or cop shops. It's
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: just kind of like, oh, yeah, he is cool.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he just.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Us ethe I was gonna say, I think he just
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: likes to throw a reminder. And then he's like, anyway,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to these one title movies.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what they're paying me for.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so gotta get got to get in that migration.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Well that's gonna do it for us,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: unless you have any any parting shots on Gerard Butler.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: No, I've never talked about him this much, so I
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: don't Thanks for letting me get that out.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think I have either.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever thought about Gerard Butler this night.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: But but if anything, let me tell you, if anything,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I I at least feel good because I have spread
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: the good word about cop Shop.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: That's right, that's what we've accomplished today. If nothing else, well,
• 45:07
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• 45:09
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• 45:12
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• 45:15
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• 45:18
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