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- 0:01Speaker 1: Today on Steelers Country Weekly, we look back on the
- 0:04Speaker 1: steelers painful Thursday night loss in Cincinnati to the Bengals,
- 0:09Speaker 1: look ahead to the Sunday night matchup against the Green
- 0:13Speaker 1: Bay Packers, and talk about some of our most unfortunate records,
- 0:18Speaker 1: records that you, the record holder, don't want. I'm Nick
- 0:23Speaker 1: de Tulo, and as always I'm joined by the world
- 0:25Speaker 1: famous accountant Eric Vamon Showden.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Eric, Ho's it going tonight?
- 0:29Speaker 3: Oh? You know, I'm not too shabby. I'm doing a
- 0:33Speaker 3: little bit better than the Steelers did on Thursday. But
- 0:36Speaker 3: you know, I've just got over my cold and uh,
- 0:41Speaker 3: you know, I'm shaking it off. Hopefully the Steelers do too.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:46Speaker 1: If there is anything that you and I can take
- 0:49Speaker 1: away positively from this game on Thursday, it's that one
- 0:53Speaker 1: of us had predicted that they weren't gonna win that game,
- 0:57Speaker 1: and that person is just so oh, just overcome with
- 1:02Speaker 1: intelligence that they saw it when no one else did.
- 1:05Speaker 3: Ye.
- 1:07Speaker 1: No, we'll leave it at that. I think it's more
- 1:08Speaker 1: so I was a bit jaded.
- 1:10Speaker 2: I feel like.
- 1:12Speaker 1: We see a game like this at least once a year, right,
- 1:17Speaker 1: a game that I know we talked about it at length.
- 1:20Speaker 1: On paper, we know we're the better team. There's no
- 1:24Speaker 1: reason that this other team should beat us. The team
- 1:27Speaker 1: has been playing quantifiably horribly the entire season, and then
- 1:34Speaker 1: we come out and they look like Super Bowl contenders,
- 1:38Speaker 1: at least on at least on the offensive side of
- 1:40Speaker 1: the ball. So yeah, I mean, the Steelers lost in
- 1:46Speaker 1: Cincinnati thirty three to thirty one. It was a close game.
- 1:50Speaker 1: It was kind of an interesting game too. It started
- 1:52Speaker 1: off with the ten oh Steelers lead, and the Steelers
- 1:56Speaker 1: actually got a touchdown on the very first drive, which
- 1:59Speaker 1: is just shocking to me. It's been I'm sure it's
- 2:04Speaker 1: happened in the last year or so, but it's very
- 2:06Speaker 1: rare when we see that happen. They started off ten
- 2:10Speaker 1: to nothing, then the Bengals scored twenty unanswered points. Steelers
- 2:16Speaker 1: came back, went back and forth for a while. They
- 2:20Speaker 1: took the lead with about two minutes left, and then
- 2:23Speaker 1: set up the Bengals for a game winning field goal,
- 2:27Speaker 1: and then the Steelers still had a chance to try
- 2:30Speaker 1: to win it at the end.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Let's just get right to it.
- 2:36Speaker 1: And I don't know that we necessarily need to go
- 2:39Speaker 1: quarter by quarter here, but really, the details of this
- 2:45Speaker 1: game are. The offense played very well. There were two
- 2:48Speaker 1: interceptions that frankly it could have would have been nice
- 2:54Speaker 1: to not have. But at the same time, it would
- 2:57Speaker 1: be nice if the defense was made out of steel,
- 3:02Speaker 1: like a real steel curtain instead of a paper miche curtain.
- 3:05Speaker 2: But I guess that's neither here nor there. So offense
- 3:09Speaker 2: did pretty well.
- 3:10Speaker 1: They put up thirty one points defense and no sacks
- 3:15Speaker 1: allowed except Broderick Jones had got a sack on Rogers,
- 3:18Speaker 1: so they.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Gave up one.
- 3:20Speaker 1: And the defense just could not do anything to stop
- 3:26Speaker 1: the Bengals offense and Joe Flacco. I don't know that
- 3:32Speaker 1: when Mike Tomlin had his press conference and called out
- 3:34Speaker 1: Andrew Berry the Browns GM that he was expecting Joe
- 3:38Speaker 1: Flacco to put up the kind of performance that he did.
- 3:43Speaker 2: I think he just understands and respects.
- 3:46Speaker 1: That Joe Flacco is a smart quarterback. You have to
- 3:48Speaker 1: be somewhat intelligent to have been in the league as
- 3:50Speaker 1: long as he is. But it's just and he certainly
- 3:56Speaker 1: was a step above Jake Browning for sure. I was
- 4:03Speaker 1: very mad at this Steelers defense, and I think we
- 4:07Speaker 1: talked about it a lot.
- 4:08Speaker 2: The first couple weeks of the year too.
- 4:10Speaker 1: It's you're the highest paid defense in the league. You
- 4:16Speaker 1: cannot be having games like the one they just did.
- 4:21Speaker 2: It's just it's mind boggling to me.
- 4:25Speaker 1: So the big thing was other than I mentioned that
- 4:30Speaker 1: the offense or the defense couldn't stop the Bengals. Jamar
- 4:37Speaker 1: Chase was targeted twenty three times and he had sixteen
- 4:44Speaker 1: catches for one hundred and sixty one yards. I'd wager
- 4:47Speaker 1: that at least half of those were slant routes, and
- 4:53Speaker 1: t Higgins six receptions ninety six yards also slant routes.
- 4:59Speaker 1: And one of those catches was on the Bengals last
- 5:02Speaker 1: drive of the game, setting up the game winning field goal.
- 5:07Speaker 1: I think it was maybe a third downplay where Flacco
- 5:12Speaker 1: just threw a perfect ball up for Higgins and Ramsey
- 5:16Speaker 1: got beat, which allowed the Bengals to eat up a
- 5:20Speaker 1: lot more clock to get it down to seven seconds
- 5:22Speaker 1: when the Steelers got the ball back, and then Chase Brown,
- 5:28Speaker 1: my guy had the Bengals, who have not run the
- 5:32Speaker 1: ball at all this year. They are literally the worst
- 5:35Speaker 1: rushing team in the league. He had eleven carries for
- 5:38Speaker 1: one hundred and eight yards. That's a nine point eight
- 5:40Speaker 1: yard average per carry.
- 5:43Speaker 4: Yeah, and they said that his their longest run the
- 5:47Speaker 4: year was thirteen coming into the game, he had a
- 5:50Speaker 4: twenty seven yard or yeah.
- 5:53Speaker 1: Like, so I'll let you take over here because I'm
- 6:00Speaker 1: sure you've got things to say to what's going through
- 6:05Speaker 1: your mind when you think back to this Thursday night game.
- 6:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I sent you.
- 6:12Speaker 4: At one point there was a picture that tells, you know,
- 6:16Speaker 4: I forget what the quantity is.
- 6:18Speaker 3: A thousand words, a million words, I don't know.
- 6:21Speaker 4: Uh, it's just a picture of the scoreboard this which
- 6:27Speaker 4: has us winning by one under two minutes and Jamar
- 6:34Speaker 4: Chase with nobody within a ten yard frame of him. Yep,
- 6:41Speaker 4: what the guys had twenty maybe at that point twenty
- 6:46Speaker 4: one twenty two targets on the game, The fact that
- 6:50Speaker 4: there was no defensive adjustments to look like we're getting
- 6:56Speaker 4: gashed by you mentioned ten yards to carry, make Chase
- 7:00Speaker 4: Brown beat us, don't let Joe Flacco continue to pick
- 7:04Speaker 4: us apartment with him, double triple him, like, don't have
- 7:11Speaker 4: a safety deep, I don't care, just like, just throw
- 7:15Speaker 4: up the house at their two guys and the rest
- 7:19Speaker 4: will figure it out.
- 7:20Speaker 3: But there was no adjustment.
- 7:22Speaker 4: And the fact that that was our game plan was
- 7:27Speaker 4: just give up everything, and I mean everything running passing
- 7:34Speaker 4: four hundred and seventy yards. You want to hear something
- 7:39Speaker 4: that's kind of depressing, is I believe this is the
- 7:42Speaker 4: most yards that we've gained as an offense.
- 7:45Speaker 3: On the year three hundred and ninety six.
- 7:47Speaker 4: We went three or seven of ten on third down conversions.
- 7:53Speaker 4: We average seven point four yards a run, and we
- 8:01Speaker 4: lost this game. So and your team scored thirty one points.
- 8:09Speaker 4: I mean, this is a get your head out of
- 8:14Speaker 4: your butt moment. And you know we I told you,
- 8:18Speaker 4: I think it's time that you know, I don't like
- 8:22Speaker 4: in season head coach changes, but I think it's time
- 8:27Speaker 4: to turn over the you know, see what's going on
- 8:31Speaker 4: with defensive coordinator because.
- 8:34Speaker 3: I feel like it's been like kind of a.
- 8:38Speaker 4: It's been an enigma to me what the decordinator situation
- 8:42Speaker 4: has been in Pittsburgh ever since Dick Leboland. I feel
- 8:46Speaker 4: like we're always kind of like we have the talent
- 8:50Speaker 4: on the team, but they never quite amounted to it.
- 8:53Speaker 4: Is it a Kevin Butler issue? Is it a Terrell
- 8:58Speaker 4: Austin issue?
- 9:00Speaker 3: Is it.
- 9:02Speaker 4: Gosh, I'm trying to remember even any of our other coordinators.
- 9:06Speaker 4: But no, I think that they got to do something
- 9:11Speaker 4: about it because I think that the offense has made
- 9:15Speaker 4: the adjustments of we continue to get better each week
- 9:20Speaker 4: on offense, and the reason why we're losing games is
- 9:24Speaker 4: because of the defense.
- 9:26Speaker 3: And it was very much on display on Thursday night.
- 9:30Speaker 5: So after the first quarter, would you care to guess
- 9:35Speaker 5: how many drives the Steelers stopped the Bengals, I imagine zero.
- 9:42Speaker 1: One one time, and that was the possession before the
- 9:48Speaker 1: Steelers took the lead on the Jesse James pass, a
- 9:52Speaker 1: big touchdown. I mean, if you're gonna be critical of
- 9:55Speaker 1: the offense, yeah, the two turnovers were a problem, but
- 9:59Speaker 1: like I said, it would have been nice if the
- 10:02Speaker 1: defense could do something to stop them. I'm pretty sure
- 10:05Speaker 1: they got a touchdown off the first one and then
- 10:08Speaker 1: a field goal off of the second one. The second
- 10:11Speaker 1: one the Bengals did like a two minute drill because
- 10:13Speaker 1: it was intercepted like at two minutes twelve seconds or
- 10:15Speaker 1: something like that.
- 10:18Speaker 4: And remind me, there was the interception along the sidelines yep,
- 10:26Speaker 4: which I'm not sure if it was or was not
- 10:30Speaker 4: an interception, But then what was the other one.
- 10:35Speaker 1: I think that was just on a deep ball pass
- 10:38Speaker 1: to DK.
- 10:40Speaker 4: Okay, which I will say, like maybe not the best
- 10:47Speaker 4: ball that Aaron Rogers threw. There was two guys obviously
- 10:50Speaker 4: in the frame for that one on DK, but Decay
- 10:53Speaker 4: did not fight for that ball at all.
- 10:56Speaker 3: No, which you know we got d K. We knew
- 11:02Speaker 3: that this was some of the baggage.
- 11:04Speaker 4: We got more expensive version of George Pickens, which close
- 11:09Speaker 4: your eyes, uh, Steelers fans if you watched the Cowboys
- 11:13Speaker 4: game on Sunday, because he.
- 11:19Speaker 3: Looked phenomenal in that game. But no, I think that
- 11:27Speaker 3: it's just difficult because.
- 11:32Speaker 4: We have all the star power, we have all these
- 11:35Speaker 4: bloated contracts, but.
- 11:39Speaker 3: I just don't see any impact. T J.
- 11:42Speaker 4: Watt was invisible, yes, and Cam, Yeah.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Cam was too, Patrick Queen Jalen Ramsey there.
- 11:54Speaker 4: You know.
- 11:54Speaker 3: I do think that it was offensive.
- 11:57Speaker 4: Pass interference where Jamar Chase pushed off with him, but
- 12:01Speaker 4: he was also playing hands on him too down the field. Yeah,
- 12:05Speaker 4: which probably was the case of why they well they
- 12:10Speaker 4: ended up calling a defensive pass interference but which I
- 12:15Speaker 4: totally disagree with that call. But still he had a
- 12:20Speaker 4: bad game too, So really it just came down to
- 12:26Speaker 4: the Bengals could sign a guy not off his couch
- 12:29Speaker 4: but on someone else's couch, and he can win the
- 12:36Speaker 4: game in ten days, and we can't line up our
- 12:39Speaker 4: stars and win.
- 12:42Speaker 3: A football game. So it looked like crap doing it.
- 12:46Speaker 1: And before I forget you mentioned Patrick Queen again and
- 12:50Speaker 1: Jamar Chase on that play that you're referencing where that
- 12:55Speaker 1: he was wide open and got a big first down.
- 12:58Speaker 1: I think that was on the last drive of the game. Well,
- 13:01Speaker 1: the Bengals last drive of the game. They broke it
- 13:04Speaker 1: down on the on the broadcast, and I don't know
- 13:08Speaker 1: if this is worse than just like being burned badly
- 13:12Speaker 1: or a bad scheme, but it was just confusion on
- 13:16Speaker 1: the defense. They didn't know what was going on. They
- 13:18Speaker 1: got thrown off by emotion. And that's how Jamar. That
- 13:22Speaker 1: is how Jamar Chase got that wide open. And if
- 13:27Speaker 1: you don't have your mind right in that situation of
- 13:31Speaker 1: the game where you know we've got a one point lead,
- 13:35Speaker 1: we have to stop them. They can't even get a
- 13:40Speaker 1: field goal here, then I don't really know what to
- 13:42Speaker 1: tell you.
- 13:43Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, maybe they didn't just determine to go
- 13:50Speaker 4: double team Chase because they're playing zone.
- 13:53Speaker 3: But you know what, if.
- 13:55Speaker 4: Your communication ship you play man because literally when you
- 14:01Speaker 4: line up pre snap, that's who the hell are you're
- 14:04Speaker 4: gonna cover.
- 14:05Speaker 3: It is not complicated, Zoe.
- 14:08Speaker 4: I can understand you can be more complicated, but seriously,
- 14:13Speaker 4: it's it's not that hard.
- 14:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:18Speaker 4: No, and especially he's been playing in like playing football
- 14:21Speaker 4: for twenty twenty five years.
- 14:24Speaker 1: No, and like you've you've alluded to, it's just the
- 14:28Speaker 1: constant breakdowns and the constant big plays. And I said
- 14:33Speaker 1: at the beginning, you cannot be the highest paid defense
- 14:38Speaker 1: and get roasted like that, and not that anyone on
- 14:41Speaker 1: the team is asked for it, but you're not gonna
- 14:44Speaker 1: get sympathy either, Like yeah, and you're.
- 14:47Speaker 4: Not saying you're the number one paid defense. You need
- 14:51Speaker 4: to be the number one defense. You need to not
- 14:54Speaker 4: be bottom ten, right, Well, that's what our defense is
- 14:58Speaker 4: right now.
- 14:59Speaker 3: Bottom.
- 15:01Speaker 1: And they said it on the broadcast too, and I don't,
- 15:04Speaker 1: you know, take it with a grain of salt. But
- 15:06Speaker 1: supposedly Mike Tomlin brought you know, Jalen Ramsey and Darius
- 15:11Speaker 1: Slay those guys in specifically for this game. And I'm like,
- 15:16Speaker 1: if that's true, then I'll get on the Mike Tomlin
- 15:20Speaker 1: fire Mike Tomlin bandwagon right now.
- 15:23Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I love the guy.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Our Mike Tomlin Special from ten years ago is still
- 15:27Speaker 1: probably some of our best work.
- 15:30Speaker 2: But seriously, though, if.
- 15:34Speaker 1: If you bring them in for this game, or let's
- 15:37Speaker 1: just say games like this, where you know you're going
- 15:40Speaker 1: up against arguably if the best receiving group in the league,
- 15:47Speaker 1: if not just accepted as the best with or without
- 15:51Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, if that's your goal, and that's the performance
- 15:56Speaker 1: that you put up with a I think healthy defensive
- 16:01Speaker 1: roster to know less, Yeah, then what.
- 16:04Speaker 2: The what are we doing?
- 16:06Speaker 3: Like? Yeah, you want to you want to hear about
- 16:09Speaker 3: a good team.
- 16:10Speaker 4: The Lions had every single one of their five starters
- 16:14Speaker 4: out of their secondary and held Baker Mayfield to nine
- 16:18Speaker 4: points on Monday night.
- 16:20Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what a good coach does.
- 16:22Speaker 1: And I bet you that Aiden Hutchinson stepped up. I
- 16:26Speaker 1: haven't looked at the stats, but I'm going to assume
- 16:28Speaker 1: that he was a big presence, right.
- 16:32Speaker 3: I mean, watch I watched a little bit of it.
- 16:34Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean we'll just assume.
- 16:36Speaker 3: Honestly, a lot of it was the secondary.
- 16:38Speaker 4: A bunch of guys like you've heard some of their names,
- 16:41Speaker 4: like rock Ya Sin or whatever, guys that have been
- 16:47Speaker 4: floating Arthur Mallett, former Steeler.
- 16:53Speaker 3: Uh, these are guys that like.
- 16:56Speaker 4: Were nickel and dime quarters not literally their currency, but
- 17:02Speaker 4: they're but making nichols or dimes on the dollar of
- 17:07Speaker 4: what our offense or defensive players are making and still
- 17:11Speaker 4: playing better than them. So I mean, look, not to
- 17:16Speaker 4: belabor it too much, it's just seriously, this is a
- 17:20Speaker 4: get your head out of your butt moment.
- 17:23Speaker 3: Like if they.
- 17:23Speaker 4: Don't respond to this game, I don't know what does
- 17:27Speaker 4: it for you? How do you get up and play
- 17:29Speaker 4: on Sundays?
- 17:30Speaker 1: And that's that's the thing that I just don't get either.
- 17:33Speaker 1: And again we can talk about the offense. They're not perfect,
- 17:37Speaker 1: but again they put up thirty one points and it
- 17:40Speaker 1: should go without I mean, we probably need to mention
- 17:43Speaker 1: it too. They got the ball back with seven seconds.
- 17:47Speaker 1: They did a probably just like a quick out route
- 17:51Speaker 1: to gain a couple of yards, and then Aaron Rodgers,
- 17:55Speaker 1: forty one year old Aaron Rodgers threw the ball almost
- 17:59Speaker 1: seventy yard guards in the air just and they still
- 18:04Speaker 1: had a chance to get it. And it's always a
- 18:07Speaker 1: crapshoot when you're doing a Hail Mary.
- 18:08Speaker 2: And maybe if.
- 18:12Speaker 1: It was possible that the Steelers could have still caught
- 18:14Speaker 1: that ball. It wasn't a bad pass. It was into
- 18:16Speaker 1: the middle of the crowd. So the fact that even
- 18:19Speaker 1: despite all that, the Steelers still had a chance to
- 18:22Speaker 1: get to get the win here and they couldn't do it.
- 18:27Speaker 1: You know, the only thing that I was I was
- 18:30Speaker 1: going to say, this's a while ago. If you really
- 18:33Speaker 1: want to nitpick, and it's not something I want to do.
- 18:36Speaker 1: I'm saying this more so out of sarcasm because I
- 18:39Speaker 1: saw someone seriously suggest this on the internet. They said
- 18:44Speaker 1: Friarmuth should have gone down on the on the on
- 18:49Speaker 1: the touchdown pass at the end because how many how.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Many minutes were left when that happened. What was the time?
- 19:00Speaker 1: So he scored with two minutes and twenty one seconds left. Now,
- 19:08Speaker 1: I don't know how many timeouts the Bengals had at
- 19:10Speaker 1: that point, but I think two minutes and twenty one
- 19:14Speaker 1: seconds is a little bit too. I think you got
- 19:18Speaker 1: to just keep the points when you got them there,
- 19:20Speaker 1: don't take them off the board. Yeah, it'd be one
- 19:23Speaker 1: thing if we were it'd be one thing if we
- 19:25Speaker 1: were lose it or able to kick a field goal
- 19:28Speaker 1: to take the lead there.
- 19:29Speaker 2: But when you need a touchdown to I'm yeah, that's
- 19:32Speaker 2: what I do not advocate for.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Just Pat Fryermuth going down in that situation, get in
- 19:38Speaker 1: the end zone.
- 19:40Speaker 3: I mean, the reality of it is.
- 19:45Speaker 4: The new kickoff rules, Yeah, it's you.
- 19:49Speaker 3: Can't really give up these Like.
- 19:54Speaker 4: It's very easy to give up a field goal at
- 19:56Speaker 4: the end of the game and lose it. Right if
- 19:59Speaker 4: you start at the thirty five yard line, which is
- 20:01Speaker 4: I feel like the average anymore. With the new kickoff rolls,
- 20:05Speaker 4: yeah you have and the way that kickers kick anymore,
- 20:10Speaker 4: all you need to do is get to the forty
- 20:14Speaker 4: and your kicker has a real shot at kicking it.
- 20:17Speaker 4: So you're talking about twenty five yards.
- 20:21Speaker 3: That's one pass, yeah, one pass, and all of a
- 20:24Speaker 3: sudden you're.
- 20:26Speaker 4: You're doing I mean, I'm not trying to be a
- 20:29Speaker 4: back in my day, but like it used to be,
- 20:32Speaker 4: like on a touchback, it get it at the twenty
- 20:37Speaker 4: maybe twenty five yard line, and you know those extra
- 20:42Speaker 4: ten or fifteen yards.
- 20:44Speaker 3: That you gotta crawl.
- 20:46Speaker 4: For that you gotta like get it takes a lot
- 20:50Speaker 4: more strategic deployment to get up the field, and so yeah,
- 20:54Speaker 4: you do kind of play for that win. But at
- 20:57Speaker 4: the same time, I feel like we're talking or in
- 21:01Speaker 4: macro problems of the team, which is our defense is
- 21:09Speaker 4: a leaky bucket right now, and you know you mentioned it.
- 21:14Speaker 4: Offense isn't exempt with the turnovers, but and there could
- 21:19Speaker 4: be some.
- 21:21Speaker 3: Is DKA really going full speed on all of this place?
- 21:24Speaker 3: I don't know, But for.
- 21:27Speaker 4: The most part they're doing well. Boswell is still being
- 21:31Speaker 4: an all pro. God love Boswell. It's just amazing.
- 21:36Speaker 3: So we just need.
- 21:37Speaker 4: To start shaking some shoulders on the other side of
- 21:41Speaker 4: the ball and figure out what the heck's wrong.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Well, time is just a flat circle, as the joke says.
- 21:51Speaker 3: Are Kyrie Irvic.
- 21:53Speaker 1: Yes, the Steelers do lose this game, and they sit
- 22:00Speaker 1: at four and two, which you'll recall they sat at
- 22:05Speaker 1: last year too.
- 22:08Speaker 2: So for all of the.
- 22:11Speaker 4: About this, they play the Jets this week, the goddamn Jets.
- 22:19Speaker 2: Who plays the Jets at the Bengals.
- 22:22Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's so if the Bengals, right, and all.
- 22:30Speaker 1: I'm saying, all I was saying is and I was
- 22:33Speaker 1: going to get to where you're going, was, It's just
- 22:38Speaker 1: maddening to me that the organization makes these big sweeping changes.
- 22:42Speaker 2: They don't make the changes on the coaching staff. I
- 22:45Speaker 2: think they.
- 22:45Speaker 1: Needed to make that you referenced earlier.
- 22:48Speaker 2: But they get all these players.
- 22:50Speaker 1: They I think they could be six and oh right
- 22:54Speaker 1: now without that boneheaded blunder against the Seahawks. And I'm
- 23:00Speaker 1: not going to beat a dead horse on the Bengals anymore.
- 23:03Speaker 4: But I think it's a stretch. We lost by two scores,
- 23:06Speaker 4: But yes, I agree with you. Ch at least tangled
- 23:11Speaker 4: this one, and we could have been more in the
- 23:13Speaker 4: game against Teahawks.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Yes, and so where I was going to meet you
- 23:17Speaker 1: halfway on two was we quite literally talked about that
- 23:21Speaker 1: last week. You have a golden opportunity to get a
- 23:26Speaker 1: massive lead on the division. Certainly not put it away
- 23:29Speaker 1: just yet, but you got to get the wins where
- 23:32Speaker 1: you can, and a win against a division opponent with
- 23:35Speaker 1: a quarterback who's been with the team for maybe a
- 23:37Speaker 1: full calendar week, those are the things you have to do.
- 23:43Speaker 1: If they do that, the Steelers are sitting at four
- 23:46Speaker 1: or five and one and the Bengals are at what
- 23:50Speaker 1: two and five? And then you've got the rest of
- 23:53Speaker 1: the division, the Ravens and the Browns down there below them.
- 23:57Speaker 1: It's just it's maddening when everything should be falling into
- 24:03Speaker 1: place and then some stupid shit happens and here we are.
- 24:07Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, like you said.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Well if if the Bengals, we talked about the Bengals
- 24:16Speaker 1: in a need to win situation, they got the good win.
- 24:21Speaker 1: They've got a competent quarterback. Whether he's elite or not
- 24:25Speaker 1: is a debate that's been going on for like thirteen
- 24:27Speaker 1: years now. But again, they made this comment on the
- 24:32Speaker 1: broadcast too. He's in heaven right now getting to throw
- 24:36Speaker 1: to Jamar Chase and T Higgins. He is Joe Flacco
- 24:40Speaker 1: has never had those kind of receivers on any of
- 24:43Speaker 1: his teams, that a combination like that, so if you
- 24:47Speaker 1: just have a compat But it.
- 24:50Speaker 3: Was like the Ravens had never drafted.
- 24:55Speaker 4: Like a Pro Bowl maybe as a first rounder, but
- 24:58Speaker 4: like a Pro Bowl wide receiver.
- 25:01Speaker 3: Yeah, like had never tracked.
- 25:03Speaker 4: And it's like, i mean all those years, you're like, well,
- 25:06Speaker 4: but they had Steve Smith and you're like, oh he
- 25:10Speaker 4: came from Carolina. Yeah, Like they had all these good pickups,
- 25:14Speaker 4: but they were not drafted.
- 25:16Speaker 3: It's crazy.
- 25:16Speaker 4: I think that, like Joe Flacco never really had wide
- 25:21Speaker 4: receiver room.
- 25:22Speaker 1: No, all we had was Steve Smith, right, yeah, oh
- 25:26Speaker 1: my gosh. So all right, let's just leave Cincinnati. Uh,
- 25:32Speaker 1: we know, we know what happened, Bengal. Well you did
- 25:36Speaker 1: once before, you can do it again. Bengals win thirty
- 25:41Speaker 1: three thirty one. The Steelers are still in first place
- 25:45Speaker 1: in the division. However, they are playing a Sunday night
- 25:49Speaker 1: game against the Packers next. The Packers are an interesting team,
- 25:55Speaker 1: I'll say anyway. They have shown signs this year both
- 26:00Speaker 1: that they are one of the better teams in the
- 26:02Speaker 1: league and then they go out and lose to the
- 26:04Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and tie the Dallas Cowboys. So they're sitting
- 26:09Speaker 1: at four to one and one. Now they are coming
- 26:11Speaker 1: into Pittsburgh. It is a primetime game. I've got to
- 26:15Speaker 1: imagine that Aaron Rodgers would love nothing more than to
- 26:18Speaker 1: beat the Packers at home. But after what we saw
- 26:24Speaker 1: this past week, I'm glad they have the mini bye
- 26:28Speaker 1: with the last game being on a Thursday, to try
- 26:30Speaker 1: to fix their problems. But I am just gonna say it,
- 26:34Speaker 1: I've been very happy with the Steelers offensive line. The
- 26:38Speaker 1: last two games, they've given up zero sacks. And again
- 26:42Speaker 1: I made a joke that Broderick Jones sacked Rogers that was.
- 26:46Speaker 3: So pissed and I understand that.
- 26:49Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I do too.
- 26:50Speaker 1: It's kind of odd, like there's a lot of different
- 26:52Speaker 1: celebrations you can do with your quarterback. That's probably not
- 26:55Speaker 1: one of them. But frankly, so, I'm not so concerned
- 27:02Speaker 1: about Micah Parsons. I'm not trying to downplay him. I
- 27:05Speaker 1: just after the performance we've seen from the line in
- 27:08Speaker 1: the last two games, I don't think that's gonna be
- 27:11Speaker 1: the big focal point for me. My big thing is
- 27:14Speaker 1: just can we win the turnover battle? And is the
- 27:19Speaker 1: defense going to show up? I think that's really as
- 27:26Speaker 1: simple as it is for me. But I'll turn it
- 27:28Speaker 1: over to you. What are some of your keys for
- 27:31Speaker 1: this Sunday night matchup? We get to look forward to.
- 27:35Speaker 4: Well, the Packers played the Bengals and they want.
- 27:40Speaker 3: It's true I brob a correct barometer.
- 27:45Speaker 4: No, I actually do think this is a So I
- 27:53Speaker 4: was just curious. I asked chat GPT the Steelers would
- 28:01Speaker 4: at least against the spread, and they said, Tomlin Thrives is.
- 28:07Speaker 3: At home underdog.
- 28:10Speaker 4: I'm very curious as like, we're three and a half
- 28:13Speaker 4: point underdog against a team that, like as you mentioned,
- 28:19Speaker 4: has been uneven and they're coming to us. So on
- 28:23Speaker 4: a neutral site, this would be a six and a half,
- 28:27Speaker 4: we'd be a six and a half dog. So I
- 28:34Speaker 4: don't know between that and the chip on Aaron rodgers shoulder,
- 28:40Speaker 4: I see a three hundred yard performance out of Rogers,
- 28:45Speaker 4: I see, you know what, I'm just gonna say that,
- 28:49Speaker 4: I don't care.
- 28:50Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is gonna explode his head off.
- 28:53Speaker 4: He's throw the ball over the place and he doesn't
- 28:58Speaker 4: even care if it's the cowboy out there.
- 29:00Speaker 3: He breaks his fingers off trying to catch that ball.
- 29:03Speaker 4: He's gonna be rivaling this this team to victory.
- 29:08Speaker 3: So there we go, Aaron Rodgers.
- 29:12Speaker 1: So you you're going with just Aaron Rodgers is gonna
- 29:16Speaker 1: light everything on fire and that's gonna.
- 29:20Speaker 2: Be the key to victory.
- 29:22Speaker 1: So it's gonna be what is it going to be
- 29:24Speaker 1: like a fifty seven to fifty five win?
- 29:26Speaker 4: Then yeah, the bottom of the just yeah, it's a
- 29:33Speaker 4: it's a flag football game, seven on seven passing skeleton.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Good grief, I mean, it is the last game before Halloween, so.
- 29:42Speaker 2: You might be onto something there.
- 29:43Speaker 1: It's yeah, I mean, I really, I don't know how
- 29:49Speaker 1: else to put it here.
- 29:50Speaker 2: I think that.
- 29:53Speaker 1: With the Packers inconsistency and with how the Steelers offensive
- 29:59Speaker 1: line has been playing, I would like to think that
- 30:03Speaker 1: the Steelers.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Should win this one.
- 30:06Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not going to say handedly, but I don't
- 30:08Speaker 1: think this should be like a one or a two
- 30:10Speaker 1: point win.
- 30:10Speaker 2: I think they.
- 30:11Speaker 1: Should win, should win by a touchdown. I just cannot, for.
- 30:17Speaker 2: The life of me, trust the defense right now.
- 30:22Speaker 1: It's just so maddening to me. Maybe I'm too angry.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Maybe I'm too caught up in the numbers. You can
- 30:29Speaker 1: tell me if that's the case, mister Countant. But I'm
- 30:31Speaker 1: really hung up on that. I'm really hung up on
- 30:34Speaker 1: that highest paid defense and the performance that we're getting.
- 30:37Speaker 1: That's just that it's the highest paid part which is
- 30:41Speaker 1: really grinding my gears.
- 30:43Speaker 4: If we have the soundboard that would be one of
- 30:46Speaker 4: our soundbits.
- 30:49Speaker 1: Yes, will inject the accent into it too, or the
- 30:51Speaker 1: brogue as we learned a couple of weeks ago. But
- 30:56Speaker 1: I think it's that combined with like the cam Hayward
- 31:00Speaker 1: off season like hold in or whatever we want to
- 31:03Speaker 1: call it, demanding more money to and then putting in
- 31:08Speaker 1: this kind of performance and then not that TJ. Watt
- 31:11Speaker 1: was dramatic about it like Cam Hayward was, but giving
- 31:15Speaker 1: TJ a big extension, and it's like, bro, where have
- 31:18Speaker 1: you been? So look, I I I just can't pick
- 31:28Speaker 1: the Steelers to win this one.
- 31:29Speaker 2: I feel like.
- 31:31Speaker 1: In the past, when we've experienced this and again we
- 31:35Speaker 1: usually go through this at least once a year, it's
- 31:39Speaker 1: never like they lose a bad game and it's like, Okay,
- 31:42Speaker 1: well they're going to learn their lesson, They're going to
- 31:43Speaker 1: write the ship.
- 31:44Speaker 2: This is a good teaching moment for them.
- 31:46Speaker 1: It's no, they really have to hit rock bottom and
- 31:50Speaker 1: then we end up sneaking out some wins. So I'm
- 31:55Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at this one. I'm gonna give the
- 31:57Speaker 1: Packers a win.
- 31:59Speaker 2: I think keep it close.
- 32:01Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, let's see, the last one was thirty
- 32:03Speaker 1: three to thirty one. I'll say thirty one to twenty
- 32:09Speaker 1: seven in favor of Green Bay.
- 32:13Speaker 4: Okay, I think I might keep your points for the Packers,
- 32:17Speaker 4: but I'm gonna go thirty five thirty one Steelers. I
- 32:24Speaker 4: have a real good feeling about Aaron Rodgers, and I'd
- 32:28Speaker 4: like to address the whole defense thing.
- 32:31Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why they're giving up, you know, over thirty points,
- 32:35Speaker 3: which is dog poop in this league.
- 32:39Speaker 4: But you know what, when it comes to Aaron Rodgers,
- 32:43Speaker 4: he would love nothing more than to tell that franchise
- 32:47Speaker 4: and to tell that quarterback that replaced.
- 32:50Speaker 3: Him, I'm better than you and I know it.
- 32:54Speaker 4: And whether that was the right decision or not, yeah,
- 33:00Speaker 4: it doesn't matter to Aaron Rodgers. All that matters is
- 33:02Speaker 4: in his two temples. That's what thinks. That's what he thinks.
- 33:08Speaker 1: That's so, that's what thinks.
- 33:13Speaker 4: So I'm I don't know, I'm riding the whole Aaron
- 33:20Speaker 4: Rodgers confidence is gonna magic carpet riders.
- 33:26Speaker 2: That Aaron Rodgers.
- 33:29Speaker 3: There's no there is.
- 33:30Speaker 4: No facts or basis in My decision is purely intuition.
- 33:39Speaker 1: There you go, all right, we'll just leave it at that.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Eric is once again mist optimistic thinking that the Steelers
- 33:53Speaker 1: are gonna win. I'm mister pessimist. I'm the one who's
- 33:56Speaker 1: based in reality. Over here, we'll see which one of
- 33:59Speaker 1: us is right. But again, one of us tried to
- 34:03Speaker 1: temper expectations last week.
- 34:05Speaker 4: So on a funny but somewhat related note.
- 34:12Speaker 3: So, the Giants have folded.
- 34:17Speaker 4: So bad in two games this year, so someone said
- 34:23Speaker 4: that they should have been a five and two team
- 34:26Speaker 4: if they didn't fold. Their correct line was a half
- 34:33Speaker 4: eaten Deli Sandwich could coach better than the defensive coordinator
- 34:39Speaker 4: for the Giants. And I don't know if you saw
- 34:43Speaker 4: the Giants score against the Broncos.
- 34:47Speaker 3: Did you see that? No?
- 34:50Speaker 2: What was the final score?
- 34:52Speaker 3: So the final score was like.
- 34:56Speaker 4: Thirty three to thirty two, but the Giants were up
- 35:03Speaker 4: like thirty points or thirty like the thirty two points.
- 35:07Speaker 4: They gave up thirty three fourth quarter points just which
- 35:14Speaker 4: it matters to us because the Broncos keep winning it
- 35:19Speaker 4: affects our playoff seeding.
- 35:21Speaker 3: But I just could not believe.
- 35:25Speaker 4: Thirty three points from the bow Knicks led offense.
- 35:30Speaker 3: That at least were not the Giants.
- 35:35Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but there's like thirty other teams that can
- 35:40Speaker 1: say that too, or twenty nine.
- 35:43Speaker 3: At least they're not the Jets, right.
- 35:45Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say one of the other teams might,
- 35:47Speaker 1: depending on the day, be the Jets. Their owner Woody
- 35:52Speaker 1: Johnson just threw Justin Fields under the bus hard today.
- 35:57Speaker 1: It was I could not believe if he said that
- 36:00Speaker 1: when he's one of them.
- 36:04Speaker 3: I saw that he did.
- 36:06Speaker 1: But I'm paraphrasing here, but he was defending the coach,
- 36:12Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, and he basically said, any team with quarterback
- 36:16Speaker 1: performance like this would have that record or something like
- 36:19Speaker 1: that with a quarterback.
- 36:21Speaker 2: Rating this low.
- 36:22Speaker 1: It was he It was very clearly a shot at
- 36:25Speaker 1: Justin Fields, which, first of all, you signed the guy.
- 36:30Speaker 1: Second of all, you're one of the worst owners in the.
- 36:34Speaker 2: League, so don't what are you doing?
- 36:36Speaker 3: Man?
- 36:37Speaker 2: Who's gonna want to come and play for you?
- 36:38Speaker 3: Now?
- 36:39Speaker 2: Well?
- 36:40Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, a lot of people probably would
- 36:42Speaker 1: have with the right money, but still they wouldn't be
- 36:45Speaker 1: happy about it.
- 36:46Speaker 2: Darn it.
- 36:49Speaker 4: I'll take your checks, but I'm not happy, right. I mean,
- 36:57Speaker 4: Jets would be irrelevant if they were not in New York.
- 37:02Speaker 1: But okay, Well, one of the fun topics that you
- 37:07Speaker 1: discussed with me earlier was records that you do not
- 37:12Speaker 1: want to have. So I'll let you kind of take
- 37:17Speaker 1: the lead on this for how we decided on this
- 37:19Speaker 1: and the record that came up that gave you this idea.
- 37:23Speaker 3: Yeah, well what gave me the idea? I looked.
- 37:27Speaker 4: What stoked the idea was the Steelers have gone fifty
- 37:34Speaker 4: six consecutive games with scoring seven or fewer points in
- 37:39Speaker 4: the first quarter, which is the longest tenure or any
- 37:44Speaker 4: head coach on team head coach in NFL history. So
- 37:51Speaker 4: that means that we've never put ten points on the
- 37:54Speaker 4: board in the first rame is since the twenty two season.
- 38:02Speaker 4: So what made me.
- 38:06Speaker 3: Think of my when I thought I would submit for my.
- 38:11Speaker 4: Fun topic answer, I found out is not truly.
- 38:17Speaker 3: A record, So.
- 38:19Speaker 4: I'll mention that, and then I'll mention the record that
- 38:21Speaker 4: I did land on that was related.
- 38:24Speaker 3: So what I thought about was the Nathan Peterman.
- 38:29Speaker 4: I'll do quotes record where he threw five interceptions and won.
- 38:35Speaker 3: I think it was half a football and called one time.
- 38:41Speaker 4: I believe it's called the worst football performance in history.
- 38:48Speaker 4: Fun fact, I got to see Nathan Pierman beat Deshaun
- 38:51Speaker 4: Watson in the Clemson Pitts game, the one that Clemson
- 38:58Speaker 4: ended up winning the national champion.
- 39:01Speaker 3: So that's not my submission though.
- 39:05Speaker 4: My submission is when I was looking into this, I
- 39:08Speaker 4: was like, well, I'm curious about interceptions. Who does own
- 39:12Speaker 4: the interception record? So the single season interception record forty
- 39:20Speaker 4: two by George Blanda in nineteen sixty two.
- 39:25Speaker 3: Do you know who number two is? Who? And I
- 39:29Speaker 3: guesses Big Ben? Now?
- 39:35Speaker 2: Darn it?
- 39:35Speaker 4: I mean, so, I remember that Pick Manning's rookie year
- 39:43Speaker 4: was pretty bad and he had twenty eight interceptions?
- 39:48Speaker 2: Was that it?
- 39:50Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 39:50Speaker 4: But when you could compare the second on the list
- 39:54Speaker 4: to the first on the list and they did fifty
- 39:58Speaker 4: percent more interceptions, that's.
- 40:04Speaker 3: And there was probably less games back then.
- 40:06Speaker 1: There was less games, and it was more run based.
- 40:09Speaker 1: It wasn't as anywhere near as pass happy as it
- 40:11Speaker 1: is now too.
- 40:13Speaker 4: Yeah, so forty two, let's just say it was over
- 40:16Speaker 4: a fourteen game season.
- 40:19Speaker 3: Three games.
- 40:21Speaker 1: I would like to formally apologize to Ben Roethlisberger for
- 40:25Speaker 1: guessing you. I thought that there was some sort of
- 40:28Speaker 1: Steelers connection here, and that's why Eric was asking me
- 40:32Speaker 1: and putting me on the spot.
- 40:34Speaker 3: I don't say I baited you.
- 40:36Speaker 2: You did not bait me.
- 40:37Speaker 1: You just llulled me into a false sense of security. No, So, anyway,
- 40:43Speaker 1: that's interesting.
- 40:45Speaker 2: You know, looking.
- 40:46Speaker 1: At sports, I had to look up a list here
- 40:50Speaker 1: and I found one that I think is actually pretty
- 40:51Speaker 1: interesting too. A lot of people would probably go with
- 40:56Speaker 1: something like most strikeouts or most interceptions, and I think
- 41:00Speaker 1: that the record holders for both of those are Reggie
- 41:02Speaker 1: Jackson and Brett Farr, respectively. But the flip side to
- 41:07Speaker 1: that is you threw a lot of interceptions, but it
- 41:11Speaker 1: means you had a really long career too, right, Because
- 41:15Speaker 1: if you go out and I know a little bit
- 41:18Speaker 1: about George Bland, I'm going to assume that was toward
- 41:21Speaker 1: the tail end of his career. But if you go
- 41:24Speaker 1: out and throw fifty interceptions your rookie season, you're probably
- 41:29Speaker 1: one I'm not really sure how you make it through
- 41:30Speaker 1: the whole season, especially in this NFL today, But two,
- 41:37Speaker 1: it's probably more so with the record holders. It's you
- 41:39Speaker 1: have a couple bad seasons here or there, and just
- 41:42Speaker 1: due to the longevity of your career, that's that's why
- 41:44Speaker 1: you hold that record. So I've softened from that stance
- 41:47Speaker 1: a little bit, although I'm sure that if you asked
- 41:50Speaker 1: Brett Farv he probably wishes he could get some of
- 41:52Speaker 1: those picks back too.
- 41:55Speaker 3: I thought, which ones, right?
- 42:00Speaker 1: This is kind of interesting, though, so I pulled up
- 42:02Speaker 1: the list. There actually was a goalie for the Winnipeg
- 42:06Speaker 1: Jets in nineteen eighty one. I don't know how to
- 42:10Speaker 1: say his name, and I'm not a hockey fan, but
- 42:13Speaker 1: Doug Satrt he gave up fifteen goals in a single game.
- 42:20Speaker 2: That's pretty rough.
- 42:21Speaker 3: Do they don't have any other goalies in there?
- 42:23Speaker 1: Well? And the funny part is hockey is one of
- 42:25Speaker 1: those weird sports.
- 42:26Speaker 2: This is what I do like about it.
- 42:27Speaker 1: Where you have your goalie, a got your backup, and
- 42:30Speaker 1: then there's an emergency goalie that they just pulled from
- 42:33Speaker 1: the stands if for and you can play for either
- 42:36Speaker 1: team that has the injuries.
- 42:39Speaker 2: So they did.
- 42:39Speaker 3: Is that real?
- 42:40Speaker 1: Yes, like some insurance salesman got pulled in to be
- 42:43Speaker 1: the goalie for a game or for part of a
- 42:45Speaker 1: game a couple of years ago.
- 42:47Speaker 4: I'm not did he have any hockey experience or Yeah.
- 42:55Speaker 1: He played for a rec team, so he did have
- 42:57Speaker 1: some experience. It wasn't like they pulled some twelve year
- 42:59Speaker 1: old kid off off the bleachers, which would which would
- 43:04Speaker 1: be funnier, but even that kid might not give up
- 43:06Speaker 1: fifteen goals in a single game. Holy cow, You just
- 43:11Speaker 1: you just got to sit there and take up space
- 43:14Speaker 1: and again, I know there's more art to it than that,
- 43:17Speaker 1: but if the goal is to just not give up fifteen,
- 43:20Speaker 1: I think the the bar is pretty low.
- 43:24Speaker 2: That's a rough one.
- 43:25Speaker 4: Break our NHL hockey two thousand and five.
- 43:31Speaker 3: Games.
- 43:33Speaker 1: Yeah, well the goal and that was just a fight
- 43:36Speaker 1: that wasn't to do uh, it wasn't to do anything else.
- 43:42Speaker 1: Let's see here there was one I wanted to pull up.
- 43:44Speaker 1: I'm just seeing if there's any others that was that
- 43:47Speaker 1: were interesting. I will in line with your interception one.
- 43:55Speaker 2: I did not know this.
- 43:56Speaker 1: Dante Culpeper has the most turnovers in one season, and so.
- 44:02Speaker 2: It looks like he.
- 44:03Speaker 1: Had no no, no, he's got the most turnovers. Well, okay,
- 44:10Speaker 1: most turnovers.
- 44:11Speaker 4: Not.
- 44:12Speaker 1: He's got forty turnovers in a single year. So I yeah,
- 44:17Speaker 1: interceptions all count as one turnover. But just interesting that
- 44:20Speaker 1: he had a combination of between fumbles and interceptions of forty.
- 44:27Speaker 1: Let's see Robbie Thompson for this, which.
- 44:29Speaker 4: Is interesting because Colpiper was known as a good quarterback.
- 44:33Speaker 1: This was in two thousand and two. I don't know
- 44:36Speaker 1: at what point of his career that was, but I
- 44:38Speaker 1: think that was pretty early on, right.
- 44:43Speaker 3: Probably. Yeah, let's see I'm trying to think who.
- 44:47Speaker 4: Were the quarterback? Like who was the quarterback when like
- 44:51Speaker 4: Moss was a room Not sure like Randall cunning game
- 44:57Speaker 4: or something.
- 44:57Speaker 2: That's actually a good suggestion. I think it might have been.
- 45:02Speaker 1: Let's see here, Robbie Thompson for the Giants got caught
- 45:05Speaker 1: stealing four times in a single game.
- 45:10Speaker 3: That means he made it on base four times.
- 45:13Speaker 1: Only to be thrown out. John Kitten I had six
- 45:16Speaker 1: consecutive games with a fumble. Well, that's the one I
- 45:23Speaker 1: was talking about that I thought would be frustrating. Was
- 45:26Speaker 1: interesting because of who it was. Joe Torre has the
- 45:30Speaker 1: record for the most double plays hit into in one
- 45:34Speaker 1: game with four.
- 45:36Speaker 3: I just.
- 45:39Speaker 2: Kind of like a coach has a record as a player.
- 45:43Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
- 45:44Speaker 1: And well, speaking of coaches, Dusty Baker the former Reds
- 45:49Speaker 1: and other manager for several other teams. But I say
- 45:52Speaker 1: this because of the Reds. This is the weirdest record
- 45:56Speaker 1: or stat if you want to call it, that he got.
- 45:58Speaker 1: He is credited with inventing the high five.
- 46:03Speaker 2: Yes, I don't.
- 46:04Speaker 1: I think it was when no one did it pracked,
- 46:07Speaker 1: I guess I'm telling you.
- 46:10Speaker 2: If you go to his.
- 46:10Speaker 3: Wick sixty year tenure.
- 46:17Speaker 1: It was when he was playing Still, I'm gonna pull
- 46:19Speaker 1: it up here, Dusty.
- 46:20Speaker 3: Baker, I have it.
- 46:24Speaker 4: On No.
- 46:25Speaker 3: One High five.
- 46:26Speaker 4: When Henry Ford made the autumn a veil, they didn't
- 46:29Speaker 4: high five.
- 46:30Speaker 3: They let's see here.
- 46:34Speaker 1: It is believed that it is believed that Baker played
- 46:38Speaker 1: an integral part in the first ever high five, which
- 46:42Speaker 1: occurred between Baker and Dodgers teammate Glenn Burke on October second,
- 46:48Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, at Dodgers Stadium. A story featured a
- 46:53Speaker 1: story featured in the ESPN thirty for thirty documentary The
- 46:57Speaker 1: High Five.
- 47:00Speaker 3: No way, they did a documentary.
- 47:03Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Oh my goodness. So that's just trying to
- 47:09Speaker 2: tell me.
- 47:09Speaker 4: The high five is neither fifty years old apparently not.
- 47:16Speaker 3: Blood mind is blonde? All right?
- 47:20Speaker 1: So I told you that I had an entry seven.
- 47:22Speaker 3: I was negative thirteen years old, so.
- 47:26Speaker 1: That the high five predates you by only thirteen.
- 47:29Speaker 3: Yes, my dad was out of high school.
- 47:33Speaker 1: Well now you've got Now you've got a new conversation
- 47:37Speaker 1: starter the next time you're visiting your parents. Yeah, did
- 47:41Speaker 1: you guys really not high five?
- 47:44Speaker 3: Did you ever hire five? Anymore? In school?
- 47:48Speaker 2: With no context either're just.
- 47:50Speaker 1: Asking, oh my gosh, so high fives. Aside, the interesting
- 47:58Speaker 1: stat or record that I was going to give you
- 48:01Speaker 1: was a little bit of a history one, because I
- 48:03Speaker 1: know he liked to inject some culture and some knowledge
- 48:06Speaker 1: here occasionally when we're not being idiot with our brogues.
- 48:11Speaker 2: And our accounting and numbers and all that.
- 48:16Speaker 1: So uh, I always I thought this was interesting. I
- 48:20Speaker 1: learned it maybe a year or two ago. In the
- 48:24Speaker 1: Revolutionary War the United the Americans won the Battle of
- 48:30Speaker 1: Yorktown and British General corn Wallace was supposed to surrender,
- 48:36Speaker 1: but he called in sick, so he didn't make the
- 48:40Speaker 1: surrender himself. He sent his second in command, who was
- 48:43Speaker 1: a lieutenant. I believe he was a lieutenant. His name
- 48:47Speaker 1: was Charles O'Hara. So kind of funny that boe, I's
- 48:54Speaker 1: supposed to surrender, but I called in sick to start with.
- 48:57Speaker 3: But he sends it.
- 49:00Speaker 1: He sends in this second in command to do the
- 49:03Speaker 1: surrender for formalities whatever, and it's fine.
- 49:06Speaker 2: But this O'Hara guy has the.
- 49:08Speaker 1: Distinct record of being the only person to surrender to
- 49:11Speaker 1: both George Washington and Napoleon because several years later, yeah,
- 49:16Speaker 1: several years later, he surrendered to Napoleon during the French
- 49:21Speaker 1: Revolutionary Wars.
- 49:24Speaker 3: That's like losing to the Chiefs and the tom Brady Patriots.
- 49:32Speaker 2: You know, there is no shame in that. I would
- 49:38Speaker 2: agree with you.
- 49:38Speaker 1: It's just funny that he's got the distinction, at least
- 49:41Speaker 1: that we know of, of the only person to surrender
- 49:44Speaker 1: to those two. So, my gosh, and I just love
- 49:50Speaker 1: maybe we should do that with work some days, just
- 49:53Speaker 1: some days we have like a big presentation we don't
- 49:55Speaker 1: want to do, and I'm gonna call off.
- 49:56Speaker 2: Let's uh, I'm sick. Let's just have the unpaid intern
- 50:00Speaker 2: and do it.
- 50:01Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
- 50:03Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
- 50:03Speaker 1: All right, now that we've gone through our history lesson,
- 50:07Speaker 1: was there anything else you wanted to talk about before
- 50:10Speaker 1: we signed.
- 50:10Speaker 2: Off for the week?
- 50:14Speaker 3: Aaron, make it happen.
- 50:16Speaker 1: I mean, the guy can only do so much. What
- 50:19Speaker 1: else do you want him to do?
- 50:21Speaker 3: I want'm to throw five touchdowns?
- 50:23Speaker 2: Okay, four is not good enough.
- 50:25Speaker 4: We need five, right, I put out the I'll put
- 50:30Speaker 4: it out there in the airwaves that he needs the offense.
- 50:34Speaker 3: Thirty five points and he's gonna do it for me.
- 50:37Speaker 1: You know, not to keep us longer since I already
- 50:40Speaker 1: started the wrap up. But did you see Mike Tomlin's
- 50:42Speaker 1: comments about the field. No? Oh my goodness, So someone
- 50:47Speaker 1: asked him about the playing conditions and he just totally
- 50:50Speaker 1: brushed him off and said, that's not my job. I
- 50:53Speaker 1: don't cut my own grass. I don't even know the
- 50:55Speaker 1: name of the.
- 50:55Speaker 2: Guy who cuts my grass.
- 50:59Speaker 1: I'm like, geez on, man, I know you want to
- 51:03Speaker 1: focus on the game and all, but it's okay to
- 51:05Speaker 1: like be to comment like, yeah, I hope the field
- 51:08Speaker 1: conditions are a little better than the last time, but
- 51:10Speaker 1: not really my thing. But no, just I don't even
- 51:13Speaker 1: know who cuts my grass.
- 51:15Speaker 3: Hey, it doesn't even know Charlie. It helps manicure.
- 51:20Speaker 1: His lone, and Charlie's gonna be really upset about that too. Yeah,
- 51:26Speaker 1: been working hard for years now. I don't even know
- 51:29Speaker 1: your name. All right, I think that does it for us.
- 51:37Speaker 1: We've talked about quite a bit tonight, including grass cutting,
- 51:40Speaker 1: the High five, and the Revolutionary War, among some actual
- 51:44Speaker 1: Steelers information sprinkled in there. So hopefully Eric is right.
- 51:49Speaker 1: Hopefully Aaron Rodgers throws five touchdowns and a Steelers win
- 51:52Speaker 1: and we are in a much better mood next week,
- 51:55Speaker 1: so for the world famous accountants Eric van Benschoten I Petulio.
- 52:01Speaker 1: And this has been another episode of the GameHouse dot
- 52:03Speaker 1: COM's Steelers Country Weekly