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The Weird & Paranormal with Brittany Barbieri · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: You?
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. We got a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of the rejects with us tonight with a very
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  Speaker 4: very special guest. But before we get to the guest,
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  Speaker 4: let me introduce the other rejects with me tonight. We'll
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  Speaker 4: start with you, Julia, Cosmic Peach. What is going on?
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  Speaker 4: Let everybody know who you are, just in case the
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  Speaker 4: new listeners have no idea.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, of course, Nick, I'm Julia. I
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  Speaker 5: have the Cosmic Peach podcast available on any podcast buffet
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  Speaker 5: wherever you're listening to podcasts, and Patreon if you want
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  Speaker 5: some extra But one of my favorite places to be
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  Speaker 5: is right here with the Occult Rejects. And I can't
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  Speaker 5: wait for this one. It's gonna be great. Thanks for
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  Speaker 5: having me awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to this myself and
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  Speaker 4: always a pleasure to have you.
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  Speaker 6: Always appreciate you joining us. Julie.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely go check out that Patreon. She doesn't make it
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  Speaker 4: worth it, so go check it out, all right, Thank you,
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  Speaker 4: of course. And Brooke who got Brooke from Dark Florida
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  Speaker 4: she's been on the show before. Brooke, please let everybody
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  Speaker 4: know what your deal is and where they can find
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  Speaker 4: your amazing work as well.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you can find me at Dark Florida Podcast on
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  Speaker 7: all social media or Brooke Moreland. We get into all
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  Speaker 7: things weird and strange in the Sunshine State and beyond.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm just so happy to be back. I love
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  Speaker 7: Brandy and everybody here, and thanks for.
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  Speaker 4: Having me Nick, of course, of course, no, thank you,
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  Speaker 4: and I appreciate it, and definitely go check out her show.
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  Speaker 4: She even had like just my opinion, she had me
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  Speaker 4: on and she's really not too into the occult and
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  Speaker 4: she actually asked a lot of good questions, So I
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  Speaker 4: highly suggest to go check it out. And now we'll
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  Speaker 4: go over to JJ Vance, not the vice president, sir.
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  Speaker 6: Please let everybody know what.
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  Speaker 8: You're dealing, howdy, Nick, appreciate the invite as always, sir,
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  Speaker 8: JJ Vance, host of Operations GCD and perhaps more notably
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  Speaker 8: not the vice president, and looking for the conversation fellow
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  Speaker 8: with cult rejects and new cult reject Brook. I believe
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  Speaker 8: we haven't met till tonight and looking forward to the
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  Speaker 8: conversation there. Britt nice to reach to their ma'am and
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  Speaker 8: looking for the conversation.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you very much, sir.
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  Speaker 4: And last but not least, before we get to the guest,
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  Speaker 4: Ethan Indigo, please so let everybody know what you're dealing.
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  Speaker 3: Peace, everybody. Wonderful to be here. Thanks Nick for putting
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  Speaker 3: this together and having me on. Excited to hear Frit's
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  Speaker 3: ideas and experiences. I am my writer, so I have
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  Speaker 3: an article on a cult research institute I just dropped,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, here and there, books and articles and
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  Speaker 3: so on and so forth, so on all the social
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  Speaker 3: media of course.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks you guys, Thank you very much, sir. And finally
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  Speaker 6: to the guest. Today's guest is Brittany Barbieri, and she
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  Speaker 6: is a.
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  Speaker 4: Seasoned cryptozoologist, ufologist, and paranormal investigator with over twenty years
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  Speaker 4: of experience exploring the unexplained. She currently stars as the
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  Speaker 4: lead cryptozoologist on Discovery Channel's Lost Monster Files, where she
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  Speaker 4: investigates legendary creatures using modern science and technology. She got
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  Speaker 4: a whole bunch of other things under her belt that
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  Speaker 4: I'll let her tell everybody. So Brittany, please let everybody
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  Speaker 4: know and thank you so much for coming on. This
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  Speaker 4: is awesome. Please let everybody know. I guess like where
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  Speaker 4: they can find your stuff and everything else that you
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  Speaker 4: like to plug before we get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, one, Nick, thank you so much for inviting me on.
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  Speaker 2: It's really a pleasure to be here and get to
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  Speaker 2: meet everybody. I'm very excited about being on here tonight. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So currently on Discovery Channel with Lost Monster Files, but
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  Speaker 2: my work does go back further than that. The more
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  Speaker 2: recent ones. I was with Demi Levado on her Unidentified
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  Speaker 2: on Peacock as well as UFO Witness with Ben Hanson,
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  Speaker 2: who's my investigative partner. And then also I was on
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  Speaker 2: Night of Terror with Jack Osborne and I got to
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  Speaker 2: go to the amazing Virginia City, which was incredible to
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  Speaker 2: get to work up there and showcase my theory in
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  Speaker 2: the paranormal and in the strange. So it was really fun.
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  Speaker 2: But my work does go back twenty one professionally plus
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  Speaker 2: years and then further back just to start into the
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  Speaker 2: field of all of it. So yeah, so I'm excited
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  Speaker 2: to be here and I can't wait to talk about
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  Speaker 2: the strange and weird.
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  Speaker 6: Awesome, awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Now, what is it that maybe just let people know,
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  Speaker 4: like kind of like what is it like maybe you
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  Speaker 4: specialize on more I mean, I know, like the paranormal
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  Speaker 4: encrypted and UFO stuff. Would you say, maybe more on
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  Speaker 4: the cryptied or what is kind of like your specialty
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  Speaker 4: right now that you're more focused.
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  Speaker 2: On It's honestly, cryptids was really what got me into
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  Speaker 2: this because of my animal background growing up, so cryptozoology
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  Speaker 2: is really where my heart and passion is first and foremost.
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  Speaker 2: I became a euthologist later in life just due to
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  Speaker 2: being in into the paranormal. You get to integrate with
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  Speaker 2: other people, and I really wanted to die further because
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Heinich was like a superhero to me. When I
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  Speaker 2: was a kid, I just thought it was so amazing.
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  Speaker 2: But the parent normal too. Growing up. I was born
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  Speaker 2: in two sent Arizona, and then grew up in Estas Park, Colorado,
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  Speaker 2: near the Stanley Hotels. We used to go there and
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  Speaker 2: have like they used to do all holiday specials and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So hearing about ghosts and activities like that growing up
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  Speaker 2: my whole life. My parents were no stranger to it
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  Speaker 2: and kind of encouraged us to stay open minded to
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  Speaker 2: it all. So I would have to say that the
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  Speaker 2: top tier would be it would probably be cryptids, and
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  Speaker 2: then I would say ghosts and then UFOs for me, Okay, awesome.
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  Speaker 5: Do you have a favorite because I love the Mothman personally, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: a favorite cryptid mm hmm oh yeah, Sasquatch.
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  Speaker 2: There's not even a down really, Okay, that's my that's
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  Speaker 2: my baby. Mm hmmmmmm.
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  Speaker 5: Researching Mothman because it's like, you know, the point pleasant
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  Speaker 5: disaster or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So, but yeah, I love I love Sasquatch too.
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  Speaker 5: There was recently something I watched I can't remember what
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  Speaker 5: it was, but like in some national park, maybe it
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  Speaker 5: with Yellowstone, they say that a sasquatch took a little
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  Speaker 5: boy and he's never been seen again, and they did
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  Speaker 5: like this whole big documentary on it. Do you are
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  Speaker 5: you familiar with what I'm talking about? Mm hmm yeah, okay, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 5: that that's kind of stuff really interests me too.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the Dennis Martin case Great Smoky Mountains National Park?
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  Speaker 2: I think so, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting case. Huh mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 2: Those ones always really interest me when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: the alleged sasquatch taking a child or taking a person.
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  Speaker 2: Those cases always were very interesting to me. Because sometimes
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  Speaker 2: if you look deeper, it ended up just being a
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  Speaker 2: fabricated lie that they used as a mystery to hide
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  Speaker 2: the body type deal. So it goes really deep in
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  Speaker 2: some of those forests and parks, and it gets dark
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  Speaker 2: really fast, which brook you know, the darker side of things,
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  Speaker 2: But it can get dark real fast. And I think
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  Speaker 2: people like to use the cop out of aliens and
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  Speaker 2: sasquatch with the mythical magical element to it to kind
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  Speaker 2: of hide some dark secrets.
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  Speaker 9: But you, I mean, do you think it's possible though,
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  Speaker 9: for like that could have happened?
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  Speaker 3: Though?
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  Speaker 9: Right like he got abducted by a sasquatch.
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  Speaker 2: Personally, I don't believe that just based off of the
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  Speaker 2: actual indigenous history of sasquatch and that type of creature,
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  Speaker 2: it would be extremely abnormal behavior for something like that
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  Speaker 2: unless it felt the child was in harm and it
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  Speaker 2: was taking the child to protect the child. Because there's
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  Speaker 2: no actual documented case of any sasquatch doing anything to
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  Speaker 2: a child except these one off crazy ales that have
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  Speaker 2: no merit. So for me, if you go by just
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  Speaker 2: indigenous or the historical value of the wild man or
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  Speaker 2: the sasquatch through Native, it's never it's always been a
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  Speaker 2: very heavy respect, especially towards children. So for me, no,
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  Speaker 2: but who knows.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, do you think it could be alien? So take
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  Speaker 7: bigfoot out of it. Do you think it could have
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  Speaker 7: to deal with like an alien induction or something, because
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  Speaker 7: it's like in those areas with like high deposits of
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  Speaker 7: granite and quartz and cave systems. Could it be more
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  Speaker 7: extra thresturl.
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  Speaker 8: Well, in the Dennis Martin case, O, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 8: go ahead. The case they did have an eyewitness that
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  Speaker 8: did see it's all a very hairy looking manner creature.
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  Speaker 8: I tend to lean towards feral human in the in
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  Speaker 8: the in this situation. But it's very bizarre because the
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  Speaker 8: green Berets from Fort campb will come in especially.
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  Speaker 5: See that's that's the green Beray thing. If it was
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  Speaker 5: just like a hairy, crackheaded guy like out in the
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  Speaker 5: middle of the woods, like why would.
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  Speaker 1: They they exist? They exist?
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 9: Berets, Green Berets, right.
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  Speaker 2: Harry, Now correct me if I'm wrong. They actually told
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  Speaker 2: the local sheriff department to stand down when right, if
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, the sheriff department had showed up and
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  Speaker 2: the Green Beret were there and he told the had
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  Speaker 2: sheriff department it is time for you to step down.
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  Speaker 2: We're taking over. You need to go back. And to me,
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  Speaker 2: that was the part that I didn't like, because they
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  Speaker 2: completely closed the site and told local sheriff department to
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  Speaker 2: step down that they were taking over. So the government
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  Speaker 2: was taking over. And to me, that's strange. To me,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, well, what else is going on out there?
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  Speaker 2: Like that's weird.
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  Speaker 1: I think it gets even weirder in that case of
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  Speaker 1: Dennis Martin.
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  Speaker 8: I think it was the National Park Service had the
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  Speaker 8: lead on and there was sheriff's departments involved. National Park
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  Speaker 8: Service also got to stand down from these green berets.
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  Speaker 8: They wanted nothing to do with whatever they were doing.
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  Speaker 8: And I think the lead investigator later from the Park
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  Speaker 8: Service to detect would later comit suicide.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, shut the fuck up. No, I think
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  Speaker 2: you're right about that. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, I
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  Speaker 2: heard that too. See that's what that's common though. That
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  Speaker 2: happens a lot in a lot of those cases, which
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  Speaker 2: is ridiculous. It's not ridiculous. It's like, oh, just a
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  Speaker 2: couple months later, that guy's gone fell off taking a
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  Speaker 2: selfie of himself on a mountain Uni. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: There are some cases where I'm not sure if it's
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  Speaker 2: extraterrestrial involvement, but I do believe in some cases where
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  Speaker 2: there are possible time portals that open up and shift,
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  Speaker 2: And there are a few cases where kids and individuals
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  Speaker 2: have actually gone missing and come back and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: this is really where, like where am I? And there's
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  Speaker 2: time missing. So it's not always extraterrestrial. There are elements
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  Speaker 2: to our own atmosphere that with different types of minerals,
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  Speaker 2: create these types of energy and frequencies, and we do
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  Speaker 2: have time overlap scenarios, and some times these kids and
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  Speaker 2: individuals do go through portals and come back through a
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  Speaker 2: different area, which is very fascinating to me. It's another
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  Speaker 2: area I study, like a Bermuda triangle type stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like they go in and either they disappear forever
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  Speaker 5: or they pop back up and like years have gone by,
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  Speaker 5: but they're the same age that happened actually to a
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  Speaker 5: couple of kids in Alaska, I think, and they blamed
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  Speaker 5: a bigfoot, like all of the bigfoot took them in whatever,
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  Speaker 5: but they came back like ten years later and they
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  Speaker 5: were the same age in Alaskauys where to god, this
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  Speaker 5: is real.
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  Speaker 9: You can look it up. I'm not making it up.
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  Speaker 5: Like these two kids they went missing ten years later
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  Speaker 5: they show back up, they were the same age everything.
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  Speaker 5: They blamed a bigfoot on the for taking them, but
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  Speaker 5: it's probably more like what Brits scene and they had
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  Speaker 5: like some kind of a weird time slip thing.
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  Speaker 2: That happened, ye, and they're just trapped in it.
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  Speaker 4: Like hirogenics like set up like lab to keep the
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  Speaker 4: kids the same age.
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  Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, how does.
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  Speaker 7: It's like Narnia where they go into like a different
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  Speaker 7: dimension and time moves differently there. Yeah, so the aging
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  Speaker 7: process would either could he be slowed down or advance
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  Speaker 7: just depending And we have certain mountains here that do that.
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  Speaker 2: If you go to certain peaks and certain regions due
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  Speaker 2: to the way the atmosphere and the mineral set the time.
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  Speaker 2: Actually you can actually take a clock and watch your
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  Speaker 2: watch slow it'll actually pull the needle and slow it down.
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  Speaker 2: So it's weird that we have different areas on our
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  Speaker 2: planet that create that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Flood of the Navigator, I was thinking.
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  Speaker 2: That movie, Oh that is such a good note.
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  Speaker 6: I love that movie as a kid.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, and The Last star Fighter Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, oh my god. Yes he played the video game.
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  Speaker 2: Yes it was. It was actually a challenge to find
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  Speaker 2: the best fighter it doesn't want to be in that movie.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, I remember that something I did want
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  Speaker 4: to ask, uh. I mean, I guess we'll kind of
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  Speaker 4: if you don't mind go here a little bit. And
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  Speaker 4: I do think it's something that JJ you know, I
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  Speaker 4: have even mentioned before or ideas, and I think even
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  Speaker 4: Lisa has said it herself. When it comes to these
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  Speaker 4: national parks, do you think they're actually kind of they're
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  Speaker 4: being kept, you know, kind of secretive or yes, and
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  Speaker 4: there's things maybe going on in there.
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  Speaker 2: Do I believe that? Yeah? I believe that only because
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  Speaker 2: of Kincaid's case, and that was one that I studied
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  Speaker 2: with the Grand Canyon pretty intensely, and if you follow
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  Speaker 2: the trail, you start to learn that how and why
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  Speaker 2: it got protected, in the area that it's protected, and
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  Speaker 2: why you're not allowed to go there is the exact
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  Speaker 2: location which things were taken from. So for me, I
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  Speaker 2: do think there is some protection there because there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of places you can't even go in the woods
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  Speaker 2: like in some of these private parks for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, I do.
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  Speaker 5: I heard that there was a guy who went in
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  Speaker 5: the Grand Canyon looking for something and he found a
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  Speaker 5: cave that had all these hieroglyphics.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind Oh is that it is that? The Okay?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that boggles my mind.
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  Speaker 2: He actually found mummified Egyptians in there and Egyptian ruins.
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  Speaker 2: And he was an amateur archaeologist that worked kind of
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  Speaker 2: like as a third party to the Smithsonian at the time.
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  Speaker 2: So on his first mission, he went back and told
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  Speaker 2: them about what he uncovered, and they were like so excited,
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  Speaker 2: and don't forget this was high exploration era. So he
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  Speaker 2: was like, let's do this. They said, let's go back verify.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to send two professionals with you. Ended up
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  Speaker 2: like five professionals from the United or the University of
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  Speaker 2: New York went. They all identified everything, so everything the
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  Speaker 2: next thing he knew. Second trip later, Smithsonian comes in
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  Speaker 2: with Crates, tells him he's he doesn't his time is
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  Speaker 2: no longer needed, thank you so much for your work.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take it from here, and that they
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  Speaker 2: would be in touch to let him know that he
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  Speaker 2: could come and see his artifacts on display and come
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  Speaker 2: see them in the vault. Blah blah blah. So six
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  Speaker 2: months later they basically smeared his name and all artifacts
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  Speaker 2: went missing.
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  Speaker 5: Like to this day, like nobody knows where they are
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  Speaker 5: to this day, and.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's like, oh, I called the Smithsonian. I'm like, you understand,
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  Speaker 2: has anyone ever seen the vault of the Smithsonian. That's
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  Speaker 2: a whole different tier, whole other tier. Like the people
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  Speaker 2: that are working at the Smithsonian are not They're not
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  Speaker 2: going to be like, oh hey, Joe, yeah, let me
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  Speaker 2: put you through to four. You know, talk about the
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  Speaker 2: artifact that this is not going to happen. Most of
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  Speaker 2: the artifact stuff you have to have a certain clearance
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  Speaker 2: to even go back to see unless you're doing a
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  Speaker 2: show and it's a production in that geo or whatever
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  Speaker 2: the case is. Like, they're very particular.
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  Speaker 5: So it's funny to me, Well, it makes me wonder
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  Speaker 5: because there are so many like Ancient Aliens episodes that mention,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the Grand Canyon that someone in the Commons
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  Speaker 5: just mentioned, how it's it's probably evidence of you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's like been eroded by water and like a massive
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  Speaker 5: flood went through there. But also it's where the Native
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  Speaker 5: Americans talk about the amp people bringing them in and
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  Speaker 5: taking them to like some inner Earth type of environment.
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  Speaker 5: And that's always really fascinated me too, because there are
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  Speaker 5: depictions of like these big I don't know, it's like
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  Speaker 5: insectoid looking people, praying mantis type people that took the
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  Speaker 5: Native Americans in for the flood. And so the Grand
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  Speaker 5: Canyon to me is like one of the most spiritual
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  Speaker 5: places on Earth.
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it's an incredible place, and it's interesting
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  Speaker 2: to me that after that happened, Smithsonian took everything. The
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  Speaker 2: government stepped in and made it a private park and
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  Speaker 2: you can no longer go into certain areas. And then
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  Speaker 2: I want to say it was the early two thousands
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  Speaker 2: or end of the nineties. I want to say it
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  Speaker 2: was early two thousands. Investigators went in there and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: we're taking a kayak, we're taking a canoe. They found
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  Speaker 2: the steps, they found the steps that Kincada talked about,
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  Speaker 2: and a Black Ops helicopter came in and yelled at
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  Speaker 2: them to leave the premise like right away, gosh, and
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  Speaker 2: they had it all on camera. They had it all
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: documented at it all on camera, so they're like, if
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: you think they're not covering something up, they're covering something up.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: And what you were mentioning to Julia, those were by
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: the Hope tribe with the am.
• 17:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the Hope Yeah, the Hoping people, which are really cool.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I love those stories. It's amazing me too, me too.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: Well, there's a case I want to ask you about,
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: unless anybody else had any other questions.
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: But I'd like to make one comment on the Grand
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: Canyon mysteries. It makes you wonder what the Mormons though.
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: They were the first uh you know, Americans out there
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: right setting up shop in that area in the in
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: the mid eighteen hundred eighteen we'll call it fifty mm hmm.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, before anybody, Right, what have they got their hands on?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Right exactly?
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: But they're not sharing with anyone, right, took the secrets
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: to his grave with the golden tablets that.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I believe to build the train track to that point
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: around the Grand Camp Canyon. There's suposedly remnants of that too.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: As far as them taking out objects, I heard, I
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: don't know if you know anything about that, Brandington.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about the train checks that's actually
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: fascinating to me. Yeah, that's cool.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: One of the remnants. Supposedly I was still being there
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: well of them, you know, having a reason to build
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: a train in to maybe get stuff would let out
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: likely scenario.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, for sure.
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: It was interesting because even in Kincaid's personal writings he
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: talked about how the crates looked and it was like
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: exactly the same protocol. So you know, he worked for them,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: and there is documentation of his name in certain periods
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: of that time within the Smithsonian as just a you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: like an enthusiast who was looking into things in an
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: amateur archaeologist. But unfortunately, when you make a discovery like
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: that and they don't want to getting out we're in
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: the wrong hands. They just you know, look like in
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the past ersay allegedly it's like a smear.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I wonder if it was just i mean simple kind
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: of for a lack of a better term, whitewashing, that
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: they were trying to get rid of the notion of
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the Indigenous people being exceptional in somewhere or another, or
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: if it was something more. What do you think, because
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: it seems like the Smithsonian is notorious for doing this
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: at least all across the Americas, right, not just.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. For me, I think it has
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: to do with the story of Christopher Columbus and everything
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: in which and who was here first, going back in history,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and I think that for them, they have this certain
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: type of story that they are trying to push as
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: a narrative, and when these artifacts come out, it shows
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that we were way more advanced as civilization goes to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: travel and find new territory and land. And it would
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: also show that the Egyptians actually went much much further
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: out and traveled much further for trade or new land
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: or for whatever purpose, for the sake of whatever, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: according to their historical stories, it doesn't line up. And
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: so for me, I think it's more or less keeping
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: a certain story in place, and anything that doesn't follow
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: suit to that story, they make it go away. Yeah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: I was going to say, like within the last hundred years,
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: especially in Egypt, that narrative has been pushed. So if
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: they're here, that breaks what they've been pushing for the
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: last hundred years, and especially with what's come up with
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: the Pyramids, I don't think that they were just giant
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: sarcophaguss so to your point, did they make it over here?
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: And the Smithsonians are notorious for hiding the bones. I mean,
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: there's so many old articles you can find where they've
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: found these giant skeletons, and the Smithsonian comes in and
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: they're never seen again. So I think, exactly what are
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: they hiding? I think it's probably just like a sub
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: branch of like a three letter agency.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Honest one heights, Oh my god, has it?
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does have its black ops level.
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: I can add some context to this three letter agency
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: that started. The Smithsonians called the sec the Society to Cincinnati.
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: It's the secret Society that started America, and they were
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: deeply interested in the mounds. At some point in time
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: they did start hiding these giants, but I think that
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: was the Anglo influence. So at the same time the
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: colonial folks were moving across the Midwest and uncovering all
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: these giants in the Adena Mounds, the Ohio Valley areas
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: all the way over to like Minnesota, even Iowa, Illinois
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: and the and Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, even some of
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: New York, Virginia, Yep.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Louisiana, like literally all over the US.
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: Well these were these were the specific Yeah, they were
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: all you know, they were all over the US for sure. No,
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: but these were the ones that I'm referred to the
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: Adena ones. These are the ones that had the giants
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: in them, and those were being uncovered at the same
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: time that they came up with Darwinian evolution, so and
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: and dinosaurs.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: So no longer you know, to counteract what these new
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: discoveries were. Right.
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: So this this crown hissed history that we live under
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: today with the fourteen ninety two nonsense, it's it's all
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: the same, it's all the same mess.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, I agree with that. It's it's I don't
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: think they expect people to be smart enough to start
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: finding the holes, do you know what I mean? Like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I know it sounds terrible, but it's like they're creating
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: a foundation that they don't want a break in, because
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: the moment you get a break in that foundation or
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: your people all of a sudden think, oh you are
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: lying to us, Well then what else are you lying to?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: You lose control of your of your masses, you know,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: and so on. Hunt. To me, it's always been such
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: a you know, growing up out West and especially in
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Arizona and stuff the tales of the Lovelock Indians with
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: the giants out there and the love Lock Cave and
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: hearing all that story and knowing that story so well,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and then when all of them were unearthed and you
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: could go to the museum and see the giant skulls,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: see the giants, see their sandals, see everything all the
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: way down to the red hair. And I met a
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: gentleman who actually had a redheaded giant in a sarcophic
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: like in a casket basically in a building he bought
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: out in Nevada. And it's fascinating to me because it's like,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: why cover up the story of giants? Like why it
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. We know we have giants even in societies
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: now it's just a it's either a birth's effect or
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: there's a lineage there or whatever. Like I don't understand
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: why the secrecy to giants, But it's been going on
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: for a really long time. And I studied that even
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: out on Catalina Island. I mean they spear him too,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: and it's constant, yeah, And it's just it's been a
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: constant smear campaign on when you find something that doesn't
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: fit the narrative, so they'll remove it. They erase it
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: and let's not talk about it anymore. And when you
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: go into Smithsonian, so I dug deep into the giants
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: just of Lovelock and the Smithsonian connection to the love
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Lock Caves. Right when they stepped in and said all
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the bodies have to be removed and there's Native Americans
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: here and all this stuff, and the Natives were like
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: half those aren't even ours, Like what are you talking about?
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Those were the giants that our family fought off.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: This is nagpraract.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, remember everything anything that they that they came
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: across and said it was Native American roots, all had
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: to be buried and covered up and removed right out
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: of respect for the native people. So they would sometimes
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: bring in the natives to help whatever. So long story short, go.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Ahead, go ahead, nod.
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: I was just saying, they just updated that nagpract In fact,
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: we just learned about that from doctor Greg Little, who
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: I like to call the Mound Doctor.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: He was about that last week.
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so all these all these Adena tablets have now
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: been hidden and returned to tribes and stuff. So when
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: I'm getting at with these nagpracts, they do more to
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: hide the history than they do than they do to
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: preserve anything.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was interesting because I remember even here
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: in Florida and Saint Augustine, when they had the Native
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Americans on display under the glass you could see them.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: The seminoles were not upset at all that their ancestors,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Like there were some seminoles that were like, no, look
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: and honor how we bury our people because they were
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: almost towards the surface. They weren't very deep because we
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: live by the water. Everything was low, and so they
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: weren't like ashamed. They just wanted more respect. They wanted
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: that honor. So it was cool to them to see
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: their people, being their ancestors more or less in their tribes,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: being so honored and having this beautiful display of showcasing
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: the burial. Like so if you go to Peru, some
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of those kings are still on display literally sitting in
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: there as an honor as like an honor piece. Like
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: when I was in Peru, I got to go to
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: one of the temples and it was super cool because
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: they're like, it's it would be. We're monitoring the site constantly.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: The archaeologists were monitoring the site constantly, with everything, so
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: there's not there's no worried of grave robbers in this
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: one particular area, and so they said, it's more or
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: less to respect the death of this king, like this
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: high king or whatever his name was, and I don't
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: want to say king, but that's basically what his placement was,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: because I can't think of the name off the top
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: of my head. But he was still buried and you
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: could see the lamas, you could still see everything. You
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: could see his whole dressing of what he was buried in,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and it was to honor and show because they believe
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: taking him away from where his burial site was was
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: to like basically disturb him and he would forever be
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: unrest in and unrest So it was very fascinating to
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: learn that from that little part in Peru, and then
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: you go to other places where they completely take them out.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: They're doing stuff to the tombs there, you know, And
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, but then I got these people that are
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: you know, and I understand grave robbers are a big
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: deal and a huge thing. So it's just fascinating. It's
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: just it's literally all over. But Smithsonian Quarterly, in their
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: own documentations for employees annually or quarterly one of the two.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I can't write. Think it was annually. Maybe annually. There
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: is they have to go through and identify giant bone
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: remains in their in their grids, it's in their paperwork,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: it's in there.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: They have. They have a few digs and they're in
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the late nineteenth century.
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: They have a few documented Smithsonian digs where they discovered
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: giant human skeleton. So it's it's in their own studies,
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: toothologicological reports.
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, and I've been It's just crazy, it's wild
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: because I just this is just when I found out
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: they started hiding all these adena tablets, you know.
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: I just found that out last week. And you know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: I've seen a lot of these things. I grew up Mormon,
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: so mounds and the contents of mounds were a big
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: part of my childhood and going to see these things
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: in various sites, traveling places and whatnot. But it's all
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: basically hidden now. The Lovelock Museum is long gone. The
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: Catalina Island Museum is long gone. They had an island,
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: the Wrigley family had at a museum there for decades. Yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Now they have like the Catalina Island Museum and they
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: show some artifacts that had been pulled up that you
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: can see, like the giant bowl and things like that,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: but the actual like real dig pictures and all this
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: stuff has been cut and cropped to like the perfect way,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: so you can see that. And they still have some
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: of the old pictures in the back in the back
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: of the museum. They still have stuff back there that
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: if you like ask you know, they're really cool about it.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean password exactly. Yeah, I mean Catalina
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: is interesting. Allow them with all the UFO and.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: Huh go in there and say, Brittany, that's the password.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, right, Well.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: There is a giant.
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: I think I think there were, at least there used
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: to be a giant I'll phrase it that way. The
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: last time i'd seen it in ten eleven years ago,
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: probably around that. So the museum in Philadelphia, the Mutter Museum, Yes,
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: some medical oddities museum.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: But the giant.
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: Skeleton, it's a seven foot or seven foot tour came
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: from a Diana mount in northern Kentucky.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they said they had him on display because they
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: wanted to show and correct me if I'm wrong. The
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: pituitary gland.
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: They claimed it was a medical odity. That's how they're
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: getting around it, right. But but the little note card
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: says the little note card at the base of it,
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: where you know the description of what you're looking at,
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: says located in a dina mound in northern Kentucky. And
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: I forget the date.
• 28:52
  Speaker 9: But what was wrong with it's petuitary gland?
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so like if it there's I mean,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: you look into it basically, and you get it in animals,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you get in a normal sunny species, but it can
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I believe it's the I never pronounced this correctly, glan.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: It controls your growing. It controls you're growing, so whether
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: you grow really super tall or you stunt. So that's
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: why we have some in history that get to like
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: eight eight and a half night I was sad gentleman's name.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: He's in Ripley's. My son is obsessed with him with
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: his height, and he was like eight foot eleven. But
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: he had the same problem. So a lot of times
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: we get this in history. And it's like when people
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: first started finding Viking bones, they were like, oh my god,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: vikings are so large and really to the year and
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: to what our height would have been. Vikings were massive
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: and height, but that's relative to us, Like Vikings really
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: were like six one to six five in general, and
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: the average typeack then would have been like five two
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: to five six for us. So it was like a
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: giant to us in the sense of the Native Americans.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: But when the when leaf Erickson even came over and
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: met with some of the natives, he was stunted to
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: their height. Even some of the natives were much taller
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: than him, that were reaching up to six and a
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: half and seventeen. So it's fascinating. Like people misinterpreted some
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: of those original sightings as he had come in contact
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: with Bigfoot. But he did write in a particular journal
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: in like nine I want to say it was like
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: nine forty eight or nine fifty He talked about coming
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: into contact with these hairy men that stank really bad,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and he had to offer a peace offering with them
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: in order to cross onto the land. So he did
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: write about that, and it was completely different from the natives,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and he talked about the natives coexist in the land
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: with them, and he has to respect that.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Well, what do you think because you said something earlier,
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: you said, I don't know why they've decided they have
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: to hide the giant skeletons. I mean, I have my
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: own theories about that, but I'm curious as to what
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: you think, Like, why, why do you think it's significant
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: for them to start hiding these skeletons.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: What?
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: For me, I think it honestly goes back to the
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: introduction of the Nephilim. I think that's a lot of
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: part of the history they would like to.
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: Wonderful on the same page.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I do firmly believe that because we have
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of ancient text that you really can't cover up,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: and when you look into that, there's a lot of
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: past history with the Nephilim and the giants and stuff
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: that remained here. I mean, no matter what religion you're from,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: every religion speaks of these giants in different names across
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the globes. So it's again schooling religion. All of these
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: things really came hard in the nineteen twenties and really
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: started making an impact on everyone to brainwash us in
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: one way and erase what had already been done. And
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: so it's interesting now to start to see where what
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: they used to consider pseudoscience and talking about the Nephilim
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: or talking about these parts of our history. Isn't so
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: so crazy anymore when a lot of stuff is coming
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: to surface so well?
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: And I also think, and you know, you can obviously
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: add on to this if you like, but I think
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: part of the reason why they have to hide it
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: is because, for lack of a better term, these were
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: spiritual beings. These these nephiling giants were even said to
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: maybe have powers, like magical abilities.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: Like it's it's said that they were mystical and so
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: I and there are hieroglyphics from Egypt where it shows
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: like a person and then like a huge giant like
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: in comparison, you know, And so they've they've hidden all
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: this and uh, I personally think that's where a lot
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: of the cryptids come from. Is uh some weird intermingling
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: stuff with these nepheling beings, But that's just my opinion,
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Like the Bigfoot for example, Yeah, I mean that's a
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: good theory, would you say.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: JJ, how about moth Man?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: Sure, I mean it's like a nephilene being fucked a
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: moth and then there you go.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I'm being spotted.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: By the way, this one romantic night.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: Egyptian they talk about.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: The Bigfoot as being like a giant, right, it's like
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: a half man half whatever.
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: So but yeah, I think they have to hide the nephilene.
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: Sure, it's an interesting thought when you look at these
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: giants from the A Diena mounds, because they do have
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: some medical oudities to them.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: They have double rose of teeth was one.
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: Of them, and six six toes. They also having some
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: different features, right, Yeah, extremely differs.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Something I wanted to ask you, Brittany, with your experience
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: is related to this.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: It used to be that these subjects were pretty separated.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: UFOs and Bigfoot and paranormal and cryptids and so forth,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: and psychic phenomena, all these ideas, but it seems like
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: they're all kind of coming together and too. Maybe not
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: a correspondence, but it seems that they happen in frequency together,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. And people are starting
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: to look at these things that is maybe not being
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: from the same origins, but somehow related. Could you break
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: down when you think about that?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean honestly, so when you look at cryptids
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: or the paranormal. The paranormal, like I always like to say,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: is a tree. Like when somebody says I'm into the paranormal, like, okay,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: so what part of the paranormal are you into? Because
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: the paranormal as a whole is like a giant tree
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: and it has a ton of branches on it, and
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: so for me, that's how I've always categorized everything. So
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: for me, cryptozoology was a tan physical creature, like an
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: animal that we hadn't fully discovered yet that we needed
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: to identify. And then there were supernatural beings that we
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: were taught and we learned about. And what were those
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: supernat Were they interdimensional? Did they come from the sky?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Were they here before we were here?
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Where they literally this was their planet and we were
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: created onto their planet. We had to learn to coexist
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: with them. So for me, I've always filed them in
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: their own separate filing cases, I guess you could say.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: And there have been in the past some overlapping, like
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Mothman in particular, was a major overlap between cryptozoology and
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: eufology because when the sighting first happened, it was believed
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: to be and the sightings really had a giant uptick
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: in the sixties for this alleged Mothman creature, But the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: original first sighting was very much that of an appearance
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: of like a raptor a very large bird of prey,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and so when cryptozoology got involved, they were trying to
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: figure out, is it a bird that got off? You know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: what exactly are we looking at. Then upology got involved
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: because they're like, well, we also have an uptick of
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: UFO sidings, is it possibly these individuals may have seen
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: an extraterrestrial being, Like, we have to look into this
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: because Hopkinsville and all these different cases were really prominent
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: at the time, so everyone's really trying to dive in
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: and figure out what's going on. So for me, I
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: feel like we're living in a very supernatural world that
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: we were told doesn't exist and isn't real. And when
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: you're open to it and you start to realize, I
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: think you're just more open to seeing things. So people
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: that see a sasquatch and then see an ORBS or
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: possibly a UFO, it's not that it happens all at
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the exact same time. It may happen within the span
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: of twenty minutes or an hour, but they might just
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: be so open now because they've seen that sasquatch because
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: it really shifts your alter like it alters your whole
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: reality for a minute, and I think it just makes
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: you more aware of what else is going on around you.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense? So I think it's more or
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: less like once you have one account, you've now transcended
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: psychologically into a whole nother world and it really alters
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: your reality and you start to see things that you
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: would have been more closed off to. So I think
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: that's where the overlap starts to happen. Not that they're
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: necessarily all connected, Like I know the theory of aliens
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: that put Bigfoot here, those were like the alien workers right,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the miners and stuff on this land. I don't necessarily
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: believe that. I think that. I think honestly, extra tressols
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: have been here far way way back, and I think
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of them live in the ocean and have
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: lived in the ocean and live in different parts of
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: the canyons where it's very untouched and very rule. But
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I just think that this planet had a lot more
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: to it and has been purposefully covered up and hidden
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: from us in some areas. They have to really cover
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: up the best way they can. And how do you
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: do that? You government contract it, and if you're caught there,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: you're shot on site. That's my opinion.
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: What's your what's your thoughts they're writ on. Have you
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: seen it as relationship between these cryptid sidings and mound sites.
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: Are familiar with any of this information that some of
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: a lot of these cryptids are seen around mound size,
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: not just mouth mane there.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I have followed some of that, although I will admit
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I didn't dive into it too deeply. I think it's
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: more or less again a I want to say, I
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: don't want to say spiritual. I think frequency that's the word.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I want to say, a frequency of vibration that comes
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: from some of these mounds. Yeah, like in Sedona, you
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. Sedona has high frequency, high amounts
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: of energy that pulses from that area, and a lot
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: of these are spiritual beings in a sense, just like
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: the if you go to Native people talking about the Sasquatch,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Sasquatch will show itself to you to say you've taken
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: too much from the woods. And I'm making myself known.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: It's like the protector, the guardian of the forests, like
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: that's its job. And the native people knew that and
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: respected that. So for me, I just think even with
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the mounds, those were sacred mounds, so I wouldn't be
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: surprised at sasqua would be around in remembrance to maybe.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I know this sounds crazy, but if it's more of
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: an animal or even a primate, right, they they bond
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: an imprint on people. So whoever was buried in that mound,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: it's possible that generations of that sasquatch were bound to
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: those people and they might just show up out of respect.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: So there's different things there that you you know what
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I mean. So it's not always like, oh, the aliens
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: just spit out a big fight like me. I just
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: think that sometimes there's unseen relationships and spiritual connections that
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: we know we can make in certain ways in life
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: that I think if they're animal or even human, they're
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: going to have the same connection. And that's a burial
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: site and we don't know what's in there that meant
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: something to them.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: So interesting concept.
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: I really hadn't considered that, because there does seem to
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: be an extensive batter with these mound sites and crypt is.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I like the window area kind of notion.
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: I've toil around with that because these are a lot
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: of these adenamund sites specifically, there is documented evidence there's
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: significant changes and energy in that area versus the surrounding
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: areas based upon US geological surveys.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: So that is something I've considered as well in that.
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: But like Cincinnati, for example, the secret society that started
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: the Smithsonian and their operational headquarters is the Society of Cincinnati.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: They're the folks that started America. Their operational headquarters, I'm sorry,
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: is Cincinnati, Ohio. It's a big mound town, right. So
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: there's the Loveland Frog, that's a that's a encryptid.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: There's the uh, the.
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: New Richmond octopus man. There's the Alms Park badger. George
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: Washington surveyed those mounds himself in that park. So you know,
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: these are very important sites of these people, you know,
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: especially Washington and his associates there and some reason years
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: later we have all these cryptid sites. You know in
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: Wisconsin dolphins another another mound cryptid siding.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Right, So what about what about Serpent Mound in Ohio.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: That's another crazy one. And going a little bit further
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: than Cincinnati, my hometown Cleveland, they have their own cryptids too.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: They got a lockedness freaking monster in yeah, yeah, Bessie, Yeah, yeah,
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: a lot. Bessie's been seeing a lot.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: It's also in in Cleveland over Lake Erie. There are
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: so many UFO sidings it's crazy. I've seen one, my
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: brother has seen one. And you know, not only that.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: But it's like dead bodies wash up all the time.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, granted there's a bunch of crime and crackheads,
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: but it's just a body yeah place, you know, Lake Erie.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: I think the name even kind of sums it up.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: But what was on fire?
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Lake Erie was on fire, wasn't it.
• 41:44
  Speaker 9: Well that wouldn't surprise me because I mean you go
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: down there to watch garbage float literally.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: But it's something I wanted to ask Britt about a
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: little bit ago. It's kind of like what Ethan was saying,
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: like where a bunch of things get like hodgepodge together,
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: like paranormal UFO and or like government weirdness is hopefully
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: you've heard of. It is a dyachtlav Pass incident. I
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: don't know how familiar you are with it, but there
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: are three main theories and it's uh, you know, yetti
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: or like some kind of directed energy weapon or what's
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: the third one? Oh UFOs and you know the way
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: that these people were found. It's like, what the fuck
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: is going on? Like people have their skin melted off,
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: eyeballs gone, tongue gone, radiation weirdness, Like what are your
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: thoughts on the Dachtlov Pass.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: So that case, when I first got into like field
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: research many minutes ago, I used to think, no, they're
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: covering up. It's totally a yeti. This is totally yetti,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: you know behavior. Then I looked into yeti's which is
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: a term that we called them, that's actually not what
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: they call them nepaul. So I was like, now wait
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: a minute, hold on a second, that's kind of going
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: on it. I need to know what's going on in Russia.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: This is weird. So when I dug into it deeper,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: my opinion began to change. There are a lot of
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: tribes up there that are very cannibalistic and do not
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: like anyone in their territory up there at all, and
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: have warned hikers before you don't go past a certain range.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: That's where those people live, and they will kill you.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Like there is no in between, right, So learning that
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: they had been warned where they were going to be
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: hiking and setting up was near those territories I had.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I still am not one hundred percent on anything, to
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: be quite honest with you. But from the ufology standpoint
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: of knowing, when the Russians get involved with anything like this,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: there always seems to appear to appear to be radioactive
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: activity right afterwards. And I find that very fascinating because
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: they got in right. Yes, that to me is right now.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: Reports of ball lightning and or like weird orb in the.
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: Sky like yeah, and they were killed on the Mountain
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: of Death. Let's not forget that that was the name
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: of the untain that they were on, right, So the
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: whole scene is ominous.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: But here's here's the kicker. This is these are the
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: little pieces that got to me right. So how they
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: were dressed. They fled the tents half like in their
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: pajamas whatever was literally the piece nothing, no shoes, underwear.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: That one kid had a coat on in his underwear.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: So we're talking whatever was happening was happening fast, and
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: they were scared for their life.
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: That's why they didn't all diet once either. No, they
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: chased down. Yeah, they died in like th they could
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: chased down attack the one. Here's the this is the
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: part that I went this doesn't make sense to me,
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: Make this make sense? Was the tent that they were in.
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: The two of them that we were in, cut from
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: the inside out to get out of the tent. You
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: have a zipper.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Why are you cutting from the other end to get
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: out of your tent? So to me, that was okay.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: The incision was from the inside and out. They're running
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: from something. What are they running from? What's happening? Avalanche
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: also was thrown into the mix, I think in two
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: thousand and eight, thousand and nine, when people are reopening it,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: they're like, a wait, right.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: Because avalanches smelt your eyeballs out and exactly everyone's missing
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: and you're crushed all the bones in your body. And
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: you know what's crazy to me about the cutting it
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: from the inside to get out. No shoes on, in
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: your underwear. It's like a billion degrees below. Yeah, like literally,
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: if you spit before your spit touches the ground, it's
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: freaking frozen, like that's how old it is.
• 45:51
  Speaker 9: And they're out there and they're underwear.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: I talked to my cousin about this, and he was
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: like an alien popped up in the.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Tent with him. So what would you do?
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: You you know, cut and run, right, But that's the
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: weirdness around it because it's like a lot of people
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: go ufo.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: A lot of people go because of the energy that afterwards,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: right right, right, yeah, yeah, that's why they just immediately
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: because of what was found at the site for radio
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: active It was considered a radioactive site after this, but
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: that was after the other investigators got involved and RUSH
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: had already done their cleanup. So for me, if it's
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: a Yetnie or you're hearing these sounds, you would want
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: to cut from the opposite side. If you're in a
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: tent and you're fighting it and you know a grizzly
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: is coming through your tent on one side, but you
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: know you can cut out the back and run straight
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: up the bushes and get away because he's distracted by
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: your camp. You're gonna do that. So in my head,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, maybe that's so. It'd be a yetty
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: type of creature that they're dodging from. But you have
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: one whose eyeballs nothing else was done to its face,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: but the eyeballs were removed. The one on the hill
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: with the other one that had lacerations to their back
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: like bear claws to their back, their partner. To that
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: person who was face down, his tongue was severed completely
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: like perfect in half, not ripped out, just cut completely
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: cut off. That's why I mean, is this a tribe?
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Is this the tribe? Is this the you know what?
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: It was so much britt.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: Another weird thing about this is if you look into
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: the fucking hikers, they're all KGB, So what the all?
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: And one stayed back?
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: One stayed back. You know that guy's like, thank you
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: got I had something else the right right like.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: How it's literally the perfect conundrum because you got like
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: KGB weirdness and then like yetty stuff extraterrestrials. I mean,
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: one of them had the friends close on and it
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: was like somebody took a nibble off one of the
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: other friends. It's like they were it was literally you're
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: talking about cannibals being up there. It's like they assumed
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: that they started eating each other. But really, what could
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: have happened is there's some weirdo cannibals that live up
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: in that pass that came down after whatever happened and
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: started biting big chunks out of them. I don't know
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: it did the weirdness just keeps stacking. When you look at.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: This kid, thought, here's a thought, what if they were
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: running experimental testing, kind of like how we have harp
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: We have a lot of silent weapon testing going around,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: you know, so what if they were testing a high
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: powered type of technology. They thought no one would be
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: up on these mountains, right, and these hikers were up
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: there because I do know that there are some of
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: these tests and if you talk to some of the
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: ex military, they said it makes them go insane. It
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: made them, you know, see things or feel weird or
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: have these anxieties or whatever. So I'm wondering if the
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Russians were doing some type of testing and this was
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: affecting them and they were not acting rationally because they
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: were one hearing something. We don't know if their ears
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: were bleeding, we don't know, if their brain was doing anything,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: if they were having seizures. We don't know physically what
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: they were experiencing before. And it's possible that they were
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: hallucinating through this whatever testing was going on, and they
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: basically are fleeing in different directions and died at different times.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: And let's just say for the purpose of not saying
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: it's anything extraterrestrial or cryptid that the other tribe found
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: these dead bodies and thought they would cut a tongue,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: take some eyes, you know what I mean. It's pausible.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: It's another infrasoundary, I think is what they call that
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: theory is yes, the infra sound or and you know
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: the other thing too, is some idiot. You know, this
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: is Smithsonian level type idiocrity going on with some of
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: this stuff, because they said, oh, you.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Know what probably happened.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: Were trying to take pictures of this ball lightning, and
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: they fucked up and went crazy and started eating each other,
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: and their eyeballs fell out, and their tongue and all this,
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: and they all mediation poisoning literally, I think.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Swamp.
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: This old thing reminds me as uh you all familiar
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: with the Yuba County five disappearance.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: For those guys, this.
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: Similar was gruesome, maybe maybe myious.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Similar, yeah, similar in nature, with a lot of question marks.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Behind them, a lot of mystery.
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: I like covering things up though, Like if things get
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: wrong in government stuff, they're just gonna they want to
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: make a paranormal look and so folks, don't you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: they get spooked out why they don't look into it
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: for other You know, I kind of like that idea
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: with cattle mutilations as well.
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: You think cattle mutilations are government.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Testing weapons or some like biological stuff.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Oh good, Nick, I just said, I don't believe those
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: are What were they presented to us?
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: But what did you say?
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: Well, the hikers veered off course, they weren't where they
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: said that they were going to go, and it was
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: too late for them to go all the way back
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: down this ravine, so they just decided to set up
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: camp where they were at. So this was not like
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: a plan stop. So if it was the Soviets weapons test,
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: there were so many gulags around there. One of the
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: guys got arrested and released or they left for the
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: final leg of the mission. They kind of came in
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: on this train station in this town. I can't think
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: of it right now, and basically they were just a
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: little too happy. They didn't look right, and this Soviet
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: officer thought that they were spies, Like he straight up
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: thought they were spies. Detained him for a little bit
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: and then released him and was basically like, get the
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: hell out of here. You can't wait in the train station.
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: Anymore and then they veered off course. So if there
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: was some sort of testing going on, I mean, that
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: would be the prime location in those mountains. And Brittany,
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: I wanted to tell you as well, well, there are
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: some mounds here in Florida, right in Okkalla and uh
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: to get back to your point, JJ, there are some
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: really strange things that have happened there. I've visited them
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: personally myself, and I've always had this just weird experiences
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: happened there so much, so like the energy was so bad.
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: I've been driven out of there twice. So we'll take
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: you there, Brett.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I love it. I've been with the ones up in
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Crystal River. It's there's two mounds there, and I didn't
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: it's not that fun. Like I was like, Okay, I've
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: seen it. That's great. I don't like how I feel here.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I just feel like I'm not wanted, Like it's it's
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: a sacred place, Like you feel like this is sacred
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: to us, You're not welcome here, Like why are you here?
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: This isn't for people just to trample all over. Yeah,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: someone like cool, Like.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: They might have even been chosen those locations because they're hot,
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: spots or something like the lake lines, you know, divuge there.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: I think that you know, we had the Old World
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: Florida guy on Brook. I'm sure you've heard of him, bo, Yes, Yeah,
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: And he was talking about a bunch of those places
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: in Florida, and I honestly feel like they're just a
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: bunch of hotspots, you know, like.
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: Where they build certain things.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: It's significant because our history has been erased and we
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: don't understand it. But like, uh, the cove or castle.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: What is it that the guy levitated the stones forroadcast?
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know that lay line. Mm hmmmm. And
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: also I just saw something on.
• 53:38
  Speaker 9: On Facebook today. Not to diverge, but Brooke, you might find.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: This interesting that the wood that is described in the
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: Bible that Noah built the arc out.
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: Of is only founded Florida gopher wood.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: So that lends more credence to the uh that that
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: garden of Eden Florida things. So I thought that was
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, we literally know nothing about our true past.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: It blows my mind. We don't.
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: And when you first hear that theory, on its face,
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: it sounds crazy. But what you have when you read
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: about the gopher wood and then you start learning more
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: about it that in the theory is it's up and
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: I know the audience will love this, but the Chattahoochee
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: area is one of the areas in which that they
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: suspect that the Garden of Eden was. If you're looking
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: for we're in Florida, it's up there and there's Yeah,
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: there's some really good evidence to support it.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: It's super interesting.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: That is interesting. A.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: No, we're not talking about anything on here Tonight's Smithsonian.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: We're just we're just talking. We're just theorizing. Cool, sure,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: leave us alone.
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: I like the idea that weird stuff happens in around mounds.
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: That's my general theory. Weird shit happens in around mounds,
• 54:50
  Speaker 8: and folks do like to build on that stuff, Like Walmart,
• 54:53
  Speaker 8: one of our nation's largest retailers, loves building on mound sites.
• 54:57
  Speaker 9: Oh JJ, are you serious.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:01
  Speaker 8: In fact, they've even fought court battles. Ever, that's how
• 55:03
  Speaker 8: adamant they were about it. So you can go to
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: a Walmart in northern Georgia, I'm to remember the name
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: of the town, northwest Georgia, and they settled the court
• 55:13
  Speaker 8: battle with the local tribes saying they could build on
• 55:15
  Speaker 8: that mound site to sort of the mound, but the
• 55:17
  Speaker 8: contents of the mound would go inside a museum inside
• 55:19
  Speaker 8: the Walmart, so you can get go get your Walley
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: World experience and visit a mound museum at the same time.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Oh my acts out of all the land?
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: Really, what.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Right? This goes across the nation.
• 55:35
  Speaker 8: I've plotted at least twenty one sites that I know
• 55:38
  Speaker 8: of that they've built stores on.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's ridiculous. Did you find this out before or
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: after the South Park Walmart episode where Walmart's the devil?
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: Never seen it, but I agree with their conclusions.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: It's a really good one if you haven't seen it
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: the South Park Walmart episode. But it doesn't surprise me
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: that they'd want to build done significant places like that
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: because they have an agenda.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Dude, that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous.
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: You know, you know who I mean. It's a little
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: bit off topic.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: And then, as I said, didn't want to ask you
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: a question, Brittany, but I even Hobby Lobby has actually
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: been known enough for doing some weird ship with artifacts.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: They collect old weird artifacts, and they've also been busted
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: kind of fenaggling with fake ones praising them for a
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: lot of money.
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: You gotta look into that a lot. It's no bullshit.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Weird.
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: The weird thing is is just like if you're if
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: you're such a Catholic or Christian. I don't know what
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: they're what they I know it's one of those Christian
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: Why are you collecting artifacts and in that of your religion?
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: Dude?
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Listen, Nick question.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: You know where the the corporate office of hobby Lobby is.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: It's in Oklahoma.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: Okay, it's in my Stang, Oklahoma, where I used to live.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: I worked at the corporate office for.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Like seven years. Yeah, I wouldn't intel Intel go on.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: And I only wear the bubbles saying this because literally
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: they fired me because they said that I had integrity issues.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: But really what it was was I asked for a
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: raise and they were like no.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: Anyways, I started fighting with them and they said fuck
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: you and they fired me. Anyways, I feel okay saying this,
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: but they would throw these Christmas parties every year. And
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: I've met David Green, that's like the guy who started
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: hobby Lobby and his wife and they have some adopted kids.
• 57:37
  Speaker 9: And they're all weird and they're all into stuff.
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: And there was rumors that like one of them had
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: to go to the er because they put like a
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: gerbil in.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Their ass and couldn't get it out.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: And like they were all, dude, they were all just
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: super rich doing weird rich people's stuff. And uh, you
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: know hobby Lobby the Christian company where you put gerbils
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: in your ass and you fucking you know, throw extravagant
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: million dollar Christmas parties every year and like give.
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: Her the artifacts out there.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Right, butts the word the word of the day.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: In the corporate office, they do have some artifacts on
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: display down the hallways and you can walk, like as
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: you're going to like the bathrooms and stuff, you can
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: pass by them and just look at them. They collect
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: this ship from all over the world, and I mean,
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: what the.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Fun I just looked in brief they were fined three
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: million dollars for smuggling in Iraqi artifacts likely during the second.
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: US Telling you, dude, I'm telling you.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: Asked step like a thousand.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: I learned something new. This is amazing. I love to
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: learn new stuff. This is this is life changing. Brittany
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: is nothing to nothing.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you for. I guess out of
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: all the years of experience that you've had. What is
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: the most weirdest place for you that you've been to,
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: And maybe if you happen to know, like any of
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: the history behind you or anything like that, what was
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: the last part or if and if you happen to
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: know any history behind like the area that you're at,
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: that even makes it weird or too or anything.
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: Oh my God, have to put you on the spot.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: It really is, because it's like I need there's.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: Sound experiences, maybe that mound experience.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: No, not mound experience. I've had so many freaking weird experiences.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: I will say, let's talk paranormal spirits for a second.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: I will say insane, Augustine. I'll actually just share this account.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: This was the first time an entity because you know,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: it's always bothered me for a long time. I have
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: different theories on ghosts and spirits and what they are,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: and this particular incident shook me because not only could
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I see the being, but it held me and told
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: me everything it needed to tell me of what transpired
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: in the room, and I physically couldn't move. My friends
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: tried to pick me up and move me, and I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: just started crying. I'm like I can't, she's telling me something.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: So it happened in the old Saint Augustine Hospital, which
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: is down one of the cobblestone streets, and my friends
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: and I who had done they worked up there at
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: the time and held the tours and did the tours.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: We stayed after hours. I would go up sometimes and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: partake in their tours or maybe teach dowsing rods or
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: whatever the case is like, and just partake in some
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: the events up there. And this particular night they were like, well,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: let's hang out afterwards. You can help us close it down.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: We'll lock up. I'm like, sounds great. And this was over. God,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: this had to be fifteen years ago. Now I want
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: to say this at this time. So I'm in, We're
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: done for the night. And I the whole night, my
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: friend was like, I'm smelling like a kind of like
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: a popauri smell, like a perfume smell, and it's just
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: following you all around. And I was like, well, I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: wear vanilla and cotton candies. It ain't no way that
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: it's me. And she's like, it's literally behind you everywhere
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: you go. I'm like, okay, So at the end of
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: the night, I go back in where if you've been
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: to this hospital, it's kind of it's the secondary hospital,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: so it's like they've added on to It's a long story,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: but anyway, regardless, So you walk in from like where
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: you get your tickets and where the doctor's office was,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: where the morning room was. Then you go in where
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: the soldiers would have been brought in beds. They would
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: have done the surgeries right then and there, and then
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: there was like a back room to it. So I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: walk back into where they have like the fake cot
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: sat up setup where they talk about where they do
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: the amputations and all this stuff. And I literally am
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: walking and all of a sudden, I smell the aroma
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: so strong myself. I'm like, oh my god, I smell it. Now,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: I smell it, and I stop just because I'm like, hey,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: I smell it. And literally within that second, I got grabbed.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: And to this day, I can still see her. She
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: put her a whole like if you're if I'm facing
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: this way, she put her hands like this way to
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: hold me this way towards her, like her face here,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: and she had her hair up in a bun. She
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: had like this blue dress on with kind of like
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: a high collar neck, and she's telling me they wouldn't
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: let me see him. They wouldn't let me see him.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: He died without me being able to see him. I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: couldn't tell him I loved him. And I'm like who.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm just crying because I'm feeling all of her
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: emotion and my friends are in a panic, and her
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: and her husband come over to try and grab me,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: and they're like, she can't move. She's like concrete. So
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like freaking out because I've never had an experience
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: like this in my life. I'm like, what in the world.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I've seen spirits, I've seen things. I've seen things I
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: can't explain, but this was like physical touch, like a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: person holding me, telling me all this information. And I'm like,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I don't know what you want me
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: to do. And I was like, are you with him?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like trying to ask all these questions and she's like,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't let me see him. I fought, and I fought,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: but I wasn't his wife. They wouldn't let me see him.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: He needs to know that I love him, And I'm like,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: what in God's name is freaking happening right now? So
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: she lets me go because I said to her, I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: will do everything I can to try and find him
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: and let him know, like I will do everything, because
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell, this guy's been dead since
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: like a lot of time. What am I supposed to do?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god. So then she releases me.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: She's gone, and then I could physically move, like every
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: part of my body hurt because I was so tense
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: from her holding me. I couldn't physically move. So my
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: friends started researching into it, and all the because the
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: fires in Saint Augustine, a lot of the documentation got burned.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: But there was a story of a woman who went
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: to the courts there and fought to see her soldier
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: who she was engaged to, and they would not permit
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: her to see him because she wasn't legally his wife.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: And she fought to make sure that from this point on,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: all fiancees could see their spouse or there soon to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: be spouse before they died, because he was an amputee,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: and that was the only woman that we could figure
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: out had to be her. And it took months to
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: even find that documentation or that piece of history through
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: like individuals of just saying, was there ever a case
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: that talked about and fiance couldn't see a guy, and like,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: it came from a lot of the historians up there,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: and they were able to find one case that we
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: all were like, Okay, I think that's it. And every
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: time I go to that hospital and I do any
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: investigations there, I'm always like, I'm just letting you know
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: you can be at peace. Now he knows you can
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: be together. Everything is fine. I'm like, dear God, I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: hope to God there to get other on the other
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: side after all that garbage. But it was the most
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: intense thing. So for me, out of everything I've ever experienced,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: that was probably the most intense because I could see
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: her like I'm looking at you guys holding on him.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: It was the weirdest freaking thing ever, and it changed
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: my mind. Fifteen years ago, I shifted. I went there's
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: something going on here that doesn't make sense. And they
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: uncovered body parts under the cobblestones out there from where
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: they did amputations. I mean, there's a lot. I worked
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: up there pretty hardcore on a case for about three
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: and a half months, and then I worked a lot
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: with the paranormal groups up there, and it just that town,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: and they have their own Amityville up there too. I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: don't know if anybody knows about that. There is a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: portal to Hell, and I know the neighborhood, and I
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: could take you right to the street. And what's really cool,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: what's the house call?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Is it? Like?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: No, it's it's nobody knows. It was kept within the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: historians and it was kept within the secrets there. So
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: this guy, it was on this one street. There's like
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: four really cute homes and it's on an old cobble street,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: and so like the cobble street goes through the homes
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: and then across the home there's little plots of land
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: and like on that particular house is plot there's like
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: an old little barn there, or not like a barn,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: but a shed. And that wasn't his shed, but the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: new owners put it in. But in the house, the
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: man ended up chasing all of his children and his
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: wife down, unliving them, then going across to that property
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: and wrote that the devil told him to do it,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: and then once he was done doing it, the devil
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: needed him, so he had to unlive himself. So then
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: across the way on that lot. He then did it
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: to himself, and so I went there thean Amityville.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was it was intense, like yeah, because that
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: de Fayo guy didn't kill himself.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 9: He just went to jail, but he said that the
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 9: devil made him do it.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: But then this man believed this and he did it
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: to his wife and his one child was down the
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: stairs with the mom, and then the other one was upstairs,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: and the whole thing was made him do it.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: I was like, no, what are your thoughts then on
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: like demonic possession and stuff like, because we can't talk
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: about paranormal without that coming up, because I do think that,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: you know, like with the Amityville thing, he was like, oh,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: the devil you know, was giving me message. He was
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: sleeping in the basement and supposedly there was something down
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: there with him. I mean, I don't know what your
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: thoughts are, like demons versus ghosts versus you know, like
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: guardian angels or whatever. But I think even within the
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: paranormal there are camps of like, okay, deceased loved ones,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: check it got to angels check, demons check. You know.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: It's like there are different and you know, demons that
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: pretend to be your grandma. Check you know, it's like,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: what are we actually dealing with here?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: I so, I'm sure you guys won't find this weird
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: at all because it's me. But I studied into learning
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: how to become an exercising priest because there are ways
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: that as a paranormal investigator with the right backing and
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: teaching within their schooling, you can work for a parish
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: and work with a priest and they will send you
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: out to do an investigation first to see if we're
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: dealing with a possession, someone that's mentally ill, so on
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: and so forth. I looked into the exercising and doing
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: the exorcisms myself, and I also looked into demonology because
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: I have known people, I have seen them for myself
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: that these dark demon spirits do exist, and they do
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: possess the living without the living, even sometimes being aware,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: and it comes upon us in different ways. And so
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: for me seeing that, for instance, I'll tell you an account.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: I was working in a location, investigating a location, and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: every time I go on investigation, just because I was
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: baptized Catholic, it's just kind of like my little like,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: hey man, I'm going to just protect myself against these
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: dark beings, because I do believe even a native cultures,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: there are dark beings that have roamed this shell of
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: a rock before any life had formed. You know, it's
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: almost a condemned spirit soul trapped here, and that's talked
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: a lot in their teachings. So those entities, they're called
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: spirit jumpers too. So when somebody's intoxicated and drunk, it
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: allows those spirits to jump into one's body as a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: spirit jumper, and it will take over you, which is
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: very fascinating. There's so much to it. It's freaking awesome.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: For another show. But I was wearing my rosary in
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: this location one night, and we knew we were dealing
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: with the demon and nobody, not even the people I
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: was with. It's something I do for myself. It was
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: my tru It's just a connection to me and my grandmother,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: who was very connected spiritually. She knew all the ways
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: to protect yourself in these environments, and so it's one
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: of those things that's like I just know I'm protected
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: right and I feel very empowered with it. Whatever. And
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: so we were talking through the portal and immediately said
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: it didn't like me and it's called me out by
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: my name, and it's not uncommon for me to go
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: into location and my name is said and spoken multiple
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: times on the portals or any device, and I don't
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: really buckle at it. I'm like, okay, well who are
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: you and what do you want? Why don't you like me?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: What is it about me you don't like? And they're like, Britney,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: don't tagonize. I'm like, no, I know what this is.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: And I wanted to speak to me what is it
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: about me that you don't like? And it came back
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: your rosary immediately and I just went, oh, you don't.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Then my friends are like what row three?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: What?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, so I like pull it out from
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: underneath my shirt and they're like holy shit. And I said,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: now might be the time for you guys to step
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: aside and let me handle this thing because this thing
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: is dark. And it saw it like when right to me?
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Like I don't like you because you think you're better
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: than me, type deal, and it just it was a
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: very intense night. We were looking for an unmarked grave
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: and we luckily found that on mark grave.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: So what made you not want to do that anymore?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: Because so I feel like that's badass. I feel like
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: Eddie Raine war and tight badass with your blonde hair
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: going in just.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 9: Kicking the shit out of demons and stuff.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: I do it. I still do it. It just depends
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: on the case. I Like I said, one of the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: cases I worked was three months, was a possession case
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: and I three done.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah, oh my god, you can get it out of it.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: No, sometimes the host, if the host is too far gone,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what fighting you do on your side.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: If they continue to bring it back themselves willingly, and
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: they willingly tell you that they are fine and there's
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it, and their spirits are good. There's
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: only so much you can do. It sometimes has to
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: come devon person. So you say they're willingly bringing it back,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: how I know?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: You know, sometimes people say that you can do different
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: things and it opens you up and you're more susceptible
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: with lower vibration to demonic possessions or certain occult practices
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: or whatever. But in your case here, what was it
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 7: that was bringing them back in?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: They were susceptible to children's spirits, and they believe that
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: they were taking care of children's spirits from a dark spirit,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: and so these demons were portraying themselves as children. So
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: for me personally, from my personal experience and work in
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: this field, there are no such thing as children's spirits.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: These are all demonic spirits praying on your darkest weakness.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: So if you are a very empathetic person or caring
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: kind person, immediately you're going to open up to a child.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: So when a child spirit comes in the room, it's
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: immediately you're gonna your guard is down. You feel like
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: you have to save it. You feel like you have
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: to make sure that this child's okay. And most of
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: the time, by the time you get to the bottom
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: of it and you make that demon say its name,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: you've now now discovered that it's not a child at
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: all and it was just disguising. Like for me, that's
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: one of my biggest attack as a mom. It goes
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: after me and my children every time, So that's a
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: guard that I have to do always against them. And
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: I've seen some really dark entities. One I've seen myself
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: that I it tried to take away my sight. That's
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: how dark it tried to possess over top of me,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: and I had to get rid of it, Like it
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: literally tried to take away my vision in an investigation.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: When and it's called when you're bending, it's when you're bending.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: It's literally you're bending into their dimension and everything almost
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: kind of turns like a purple haze and you're completely
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: bent into their realm and you see things. I mean,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: there is there's a lot of accounts and Brook Troy
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: can I'll tell you about the count that we had
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: together where that was an experience as well, like, yeah,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: it's once you're there, you've got to be strong because
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: if you're not, they will even unknowingly come and attach themselves.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people that deal with oppressions and
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: things like that, these are still top types of attacks
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: from a spiritual place, and it's learning how to detach
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: ourselves from those cords of those spiritual beings and how
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: to protect ourselves from them.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Interesting, I like the idea of all these demons. What
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts for it?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: On curses of oh JJ.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Haunted dolls. I think it's just a way to make money,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: But I will say I think so in honesty, the
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: spiritual plane, if it's energy driven, if there is something
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: in it, like when you take the case of Annabel,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: the original Annabel. The owners of Annabel allowed the spear
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: in their home and asked them to go into the
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: the doll of animal. So you're giving it a carrier,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: you're giving it a physical thing, and you're allowing it,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: you're telling it. It's like think of the mentality of
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: like a vampire. You can't let a vampire in your house,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: can't cross the threshold unless you say you're welcome into
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: my home. It's the same thing as a demonic being.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: So anytime I leave a place that I know is demonic,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: I immediately say you cannot follow me home. You're not welcome.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: I'm a property, I have a bubble, a hedge of protection,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: aroun my property. You're not welcome to come. And so
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: it's immediately letting them know I have that invisible salt.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: If you will around my house, they're not welcome. And
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: if they even try, I can sense them and they're gone.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like, I take control over
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: what is mine. You're not coming after me. So if
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: I willingly say to a spirit which they thought was
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: a spirit child again and the rain was like, oh no,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: but it was like a spirit child, they willingly said,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: go into the doll, which was a giant Raggedy Ann doll, right,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: And I hate Raggedy Ann because of this. I remember
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: like being a kid and I was like, no dolls. No,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Like I remember like get does things away her, you know,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: and like, and He's like, Chucky, you could just freaking
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: drop kick that doll. And I was like, could you though,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: because he's got knives and dude, he's murdering him down.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 9: That's JJ's the one that's haunted him.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so that's supposedly, well, I mean that's supposedly that's
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 8: the character basis of Chucky.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Is Robert the.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 10: Doll, Yeah, Robert my buddy.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, And Robert the Doll is actually in Key West.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: They have him glass.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 8: They don't want folks of it though. I'll tell you what.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 8: You might be a mountain guy mounted like myself, wandering
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 8: into an old silvil war for looking for some history
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 8: built on a mound, and find yourself cursed by a
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 8: haunt for the next twelve or fourteen years.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the good thing is is that with Robert
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: you're safe. They did a ritual to protect, like, to
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: protect the people that come to see him. He has
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: the salt they did the prayer CJJ with the glass
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: so you can go see Robert everything that is cute.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: You're not supposed to take a picture with him, though, right,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: isn't that the deal? Like?
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 8: So I took a picture with him. I didn't ask
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 8: that's what That's what I mean by the curse of
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 8: Robert the Doll. I was like, curse dolls, that's ridiculous,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 8: I'll take a picture of this thing.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: And I.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: Woke up with, Yeah, I'm not I'm not kidding.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: I'm convinced. Yeah, I'm convinced. I've been cursed by Robert
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 8: the Doll. I finally this past December, I finally came
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 8: to terms with it, and I read him a letter.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 8: You know, see, I have been working out Seawell though
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 8: since then. If you asked, but find out.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: It's going to be like do you want to play?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Do you want to go?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 8: And it's interesting though, because that whole room down there,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 8: when I remember going down there, the whole room was
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 8: filled with letters from folks apologizing to Robert, writing so
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 8: it seems like you said, quite a he's a prolific
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 8: onta dole that that Robert.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: There's so many people that are like I didn't ask
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: to do his picture. I didn't tell him that he
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: could well. And the other mistake that people make in
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: some of those letters is they take a rock from
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: the fort, and that's a big no no. You never
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: take anything from any place of energy like that. And
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: so a lot of those letters were like I'm sorry, Robert,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: like talking to Robert like you owned the fourth It's
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: like I'm sorry that I took the rock, and I
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: hope that you will leave me alone now or whatever,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: you know. But it's again, it's that unwillingness, and it's
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: also the yeah, right, this isn't real BS thing, and
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: it's the no respect in a sense to that entity,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: and it more or less becomes a taunter like to say, really, okay,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: I'll show you.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 7: Is that why they tell you not to take rocks
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 7: and stuff from the national parks?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting. I don't take it from any mountains. I
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: don't take a rock from anywhere except the beach. That's
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: the only place I do not. But I won't not
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: from any haunted establishments, not from any historic establishments. Too
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: much energy, too much bloodshed. You don't know what happened
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: on that exact rock and you don't know what you're
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: bringing home, especially like in Gettysburg. Don't take anything from there.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: Because they hold memories and stuff Like granted.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Quarts is the largest one to hold any memories. If
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: you have enough of it, you can power it and
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: it will play back a video, which is what they're
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: basically trying to do right now. So that's why. So,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: like on a completely different quick topic, my work in
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Gettysburg was because of the investigation I did with how
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: much quartz crystals are underneath the ground of Gettysburg during
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: the lightning storm. Is anytime the thunderstorms and lightning storms
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: are upticking the energy, that is when the most visible
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: ghosts are seen in the plane, when the moisture and
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: the elements are heightened, And that's because the vibrations in
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: the electricity have basically energized the quartz crystals and it's
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: basically playing back what had happened. So you're actually seeing
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: the soldiers really, but it's playing back from the memory
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: of those quarts. Now, there's other things that happened there
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: that I looked into, but as far as just the
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: quartz crystals go, yeah, and it's I mean, it's enough
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: to build a skyscraper in New York. That's how much
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: quartz was in there. And Limestone.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 7: You know, I just had somebody on the show who
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 7: was talking about because I asked where it was one
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 7: of the weirdest places you've ever been, or if like
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 7: favorite places E've investigated, and he said Gettysburg, and I
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 7: was like, oh cool, And so he said he was
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 7: on one of the investigations they were on. They were
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 7: on this tour. They collaborated with a group up there,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 7: and he just started taking pictures at night on the battlefield. Well,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 7: I guess his flash was on, and then all of
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 7: a sudden they started getting shot at. And basically what
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 7: they did was trigger the ghosts. And because during the
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 7: Battle of Gettysburg, like at night time, they knew where
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 7: to fire when they saw the musket flash, and so
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 7: his phone's over there flashing and it triggered these ghosts
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 7: and they started getting shot at by the Gettysburg ghosts.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, someone just told me.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: That traumatizing the ghosts, right PTSD Right, No shit, something
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you print. I was like a
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: little bit kind of going back like five minutes ago.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: It was just something I was wondering when you were
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: doing these exorcisms exorcisms, were you doing them with like
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: Catholic priests the one that took No, I've.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Never actually performed in exorcism.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: Okay, No, I'm saying the people that were there that
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: they were doing it. I think you said one took
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: like three months.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: No, the one. So yeah, So the case I was
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: working on, I was working on that with two other
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: individuals and none nobody was a priest. There was no
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: priest involved. We wanted to bring a priest in. That
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: person told me that they wanted God nowhere near their establishment.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, the.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Person we spoke to at the time, we knew we
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: weren't talking to the person. That person specifically said very
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: clearly they did not want God. So we can't force
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: upon the work of an exercise or removal like that
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: when in that case we aren't even welcome. So we
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: can do the work from beyond, but it still has
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: to come from the host.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: Gotcha.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: The only reason why I asked is because I did
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: see there was a somebody I think it was a
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: it was a priest who does exorcisms, and he had
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: he was talking about like how long they took or
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: I guess the host was asking him, you know, questions
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: about an exorcism, and he mentioned it took.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: A while, and it was like, does it normally take
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: that long?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: He said sometimes this and that, and he had said
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: that he had a question, and I mean, I guess
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: this doesn't sound good, but he said that, you know
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: that stuff also only works as well as like the
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: power of the church is working, so like, even if
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: the faith behind Catholicism and the power of it is
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: starting to crumble, the exorcism and so I'm not going
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: to work that well anymore either, or it could take
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: a lot longer, which is why.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: I was asking, maybe if you were dealing.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: With the Catholic rights, that's interesting.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: I was wondering if behind that it would have to.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: Come from the priest that's in charge of that particular exorcism.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: So if his faith is shaken and he's not strong
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: in his own faith to perform the exorcism, because it
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: would find it would find its weakness. How's nothing to
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: do with the church. It would be that particular parish,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: of that particular priest that's handling the case. If he
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: is not strong enough or he feels someone on his
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: team is not strong enough, because the fear is if
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: you go in and you're dealing with the particular demon right,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: because the demon will have to say its name, and
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: once you have its name, you have power over it.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: So the priest has to be able to get to
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: that part. But what the demons will do is they
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: will prey on every single person in the room. So
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: if you're not strong, and you're not strong confidently to
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: know you're just targeting me. This is all fake, this
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: isn't real. It will prey on you in a sense
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: of your darkest secret that no one knows about, your fears,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: your deepest It will try to sabotage you into doubt.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: The moment you have doubt, it now can jump to you.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: So the priests will not want you present in the
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: room if you're not strong enough, because it doesn't want
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: it leaving one host and go to one of their
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: people or the person involved. So a lot of times
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: when doing an exorcism, family members are not allowed in
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: any of the rooms because family will be like, oh
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: my god, what's happening to my child? Because they do constort,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: they vomit, they do things their bodies. It's think a
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: venom to its host. So when it starts to be
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: extracted out, the host is going to experience a lot
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: of physical things leaving itself because it's attached to the
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: soul of the person. So there's a lot of energy
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: happening there, and it happen so and so it takes
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: a very strong, very strong priest to be able to
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: say I know what I'm up against and I'm gonna
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: do this. And sometimes priests won't even let turn people
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: in the room if they know there's a little shroud
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: of doubt, they won't do it.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: That reminds me of this movie, you know, the original one,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: because he's a he's a doubter, you know, Damien, and
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: it jumps into him and then he jumps out the
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: window and kills himself, you know.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well, if you look into the end Lorraine
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Warren case where they actually went to the court with
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: the possession.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 9: Of the the devil made me do it.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, that whole case, And there's a great documentary
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: on it for those that don't know. It's on Netflix.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: But it does explain how if you have doubt, it's
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: all it needs to pray on you. To then attach
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: itself to you because it, any demonic entity, will prey
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: on your weakest part. That's just what it does. And
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: then it will to you. And so, like what Brooks
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: said earlier, how is it knowingly bringing it back? It
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: will convince the host it is gone. And what you're
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: hearing is a guide or a spirit guide or an angel,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: and it's telling you that it's good, and it's feeding
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: you those thoughts and what you think or your thoughts
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: are actually coming from this entity, making you think, oh,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: my house is clear, I'm okay, everything's fine, and I'm
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: good now, and no, I have good spirits in the
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: house now, everything is good, everything is light. But it's not.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: It's giving you that false perception until it has you
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: back where it wants because it never wants to lose
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: possession of you. It wants your soul period end of day.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: It's what it wants. So the moment you start drifting
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: from it, where you meet people that are trying to
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: remove you from it, it will devour even more and
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: make you very either sick, too hard to be around,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: just different elements. Your lifestyle changes, you do things you
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: normally wouldn't do. You become very solitary. You don't like
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: being around people so much anymore. They want you isolated
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: so that they can eventually have you do something to
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: yourself that permanently gives them your soul.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 9: I think there's like maybe you know, you can disagree
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 9: or agree, but there's like levels to it almost because
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 9: I swear I've worked with some straight up demons in
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 9: my life.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: It's like people that you just cannot You're like, you
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: have what the fuck? And yeah, I mean they're not
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: like rise like dude. For sure, there's some demons working
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: at hobby lobby, but.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Seeks like left secret.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: And I think like childhood trauma, rape, things like that,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: you can open you up to getting like a little
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: passenger inside you and you don't even know it.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: It forms an entity. Any type of trauma like that
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: eventually forms a type of entity.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: Lucy Rose in their comments just pointed to parasitic stuff.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: I was going to compare it to uh toxoplasma, which
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: which it turns out is pretty common in the world.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: UH and it makes the rats or mice have less
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: fear of the smell of the cat, and so it
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: will approach the feline instead of having that natural fear
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: of and with humans, it makes us less afraid of
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: extreme circumstances, so which maybe that's good. I don't know.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: So I feel like in the case of that parasite,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: it kind of lends like a little bit of you know, hey,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: you can do it, go for it, and maybe poor
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: decision making with that manner of thinking too, But it's
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: the spiritual parasites are very much like that too. They'll
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: they'll psyche you out with some kind of belief that
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: you can make the jump and maybe obviously you can't
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: and you would be able to see that and type
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: of thing, and so it's like they give you a
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: little bit of this feeling of reward when in actuality
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: they're just just leashing off of you.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: Have you seen those parasites under a microscopey then they
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: look like demons, like old Testaments ass demons. You need
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: to look at them shits, And you know, I do
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: a parasite cleanse once a mon because I'm really into this.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: I think parasites are demons and you ingest them into
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: your body through all kind of weird food and shit.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: Pregnant people can't even be around litterboxes because of that.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Tocto plasmosis. Whatever.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: I got a little ship head cat. He's not my cat.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: He lives here. He was here before I got here,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: so I got to put up with him. He shits outside,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: he pisses outside. He don't come into the living room.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: This is his area, you know. If there's something going down,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: he can stay in here temporarily, but he don't come
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: into the house.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: I'm so weird about parasites.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: Is this an undocumented immigrant?
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: Have like a little sunroom that I'm in right now.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: But he doesn't cross the threshold into the house. You
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: can stay in the sunroom, that's it. But these parasites
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: and I take, you know, there's all kinds of things
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: you can take, like a celium husk and like all
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: these things that acts as like a micross sandpaper to
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: your digestive track to like clear all those parasites out.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: And I watched one woman she went to go get
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: a colonic and she had a parasite. It was like
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 5: five feet long coming out her asshole and it wouldn't
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: come out, and they were like pushing on her stomach
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 5: and doing all this stuff to try to get this
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: parasite come out. And she said, in the name of Jesus,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: this parasite is going to come out, and it just
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: like squirted out of her ass into the tube down
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: the hatch. And that's why these yeah, these parasites are spiritual, dude.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: It goes into some kind of a collection.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: Tank like whatever you do at the colonic but the spiritual,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: their spiritual and their demons.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: When you were.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 7: Talking about, you know, trauma being a gateway. Shameless plug
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 7: here May is Mental Health Awareness Month, just saying and
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 7: I think therapy is really important. I know, I was
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 7: going through some stuff from some trauma that had happened
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 7: in my childhood. I was having I felt like it
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 7: was a spiritual attack on my dreams. I was having
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 7: these really like prophetic sort of dreams, like where I
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 7: was fighting something and I knew this was not a
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 7: regular dream.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: Long story short.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 7: It pushed me to getting into therapy and I started
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 7: going to therapy and crazy enough, like the dream transformed
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 7: and like I had the power. And I fully believe
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 7: that through trauma and through indoctrination and different things, that
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 7: we're being attacked at so many different levels within our society.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 7: I'm reading a book right now called Return of the Gods,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 7: and it talks about a cultural possession, like on a
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 7: cultural level, and it's really interesting. All the different ways
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 7: so powerful. Right, So if you are you are susceptible
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 7: to these things. That's why it's so important if something
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 7: has happened to you to not you know, remain a victim,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 7: but to take that and transform it and heal and
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 7: become you know, a fighter and fight against it because
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 7: there's so many people who don't make it past that,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 7: and then you just see that darkness just kind of
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 7: consume and zume them. Yeah, the cultural possession is really interesting.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 7: I'm really excited about this book. Well, we should definitely
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 7: talk about it, The Return of the Gods. It is
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 7: super cool.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: Well, we're inundated on every level through our diet, through
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 5: the things we consume in media, music, movies, everything that
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: we consume is parasitic in a way, and then things
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: that happen to us throughout our lives kind of make
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: these little doorways in our mind and it allows just
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: weird shit to come in and sometimes you don't even
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: realize you've been hijacked your body or your mind. So yeah,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: I think it's actually kind of scary. I know, some people.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: It's like Britt worked on a guy for three months
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: and then he was like.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: Just fuck off.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 5: I guess, but I mean to admit that you're you
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: have a problem too, because a lot of people just
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: walk around with like these blinders on, like, oh no,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: I'm cool, everything's good. You know, I have sleep paralysis
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: in nightearrors and you know X y Z. But it's
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: all good in the hoods.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: What normal?
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 9: Like JJ here, for example, he's so fucked up. He's
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 9: got a fucking curse on him from Robert the Doll.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: He can't get it off of him.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: You need to go have a colonic JJ, I am, yes,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: you need to get your butthole cleared out, drain the pipes.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 8: Get all I think the curse of Rubber the doll
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 8: around letting some butthole.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: How did you recoma what happens to where you were?
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: Like what point were you like, I'm cursed.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 8: It's I suppose it was the culmination of activities in
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 8: my life over the subsequent tenor I was really around
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 8: year six.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: I'd say it was around the first week of December.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Every year six years. Figure it out.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 8: I'm pretty I'm a scottsdersman, I'm pretty I'm pretty stubborn.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 8: I'll fight myself if there's nothing else to fight, you
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 8: know what I mean.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: So the uh, you know, it's.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 8: Around your six, and you know, I was like, oh,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 8: you know, this is a shit of years. Couldn't this
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 8: kind of worked out better? And I was like, what
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 8: did I do wrong? How did I What could have
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 8: I have done to change these things? I'm like, well,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 8: and it's not like I'm I'm not like, you know,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 8: parachuting or skydabbing or something, you know, you know, doing
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 8: things ridiculous or I'm a you know, drug user, you
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 8: know these kind of things. So I eat healthy, I exercised,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 8: you know, et cetera. So you know, and then you know,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 8: just random things that you really can account for health wise,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 8: life wise, et cetera.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: So ye're six.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 8: I was like, man, this kind of seems strange. And
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 8: then by I'd say about yours, I guess twelve. This
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 8: past year, I finally I was like, all right, you know,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 8: each each December, that first week of December, I'm like,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 8: all right, let's let's review this situation. Then this past
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 8: year I was like, I said, fuck, it. I'm just
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 8: gonna write this super doll letter. This is ridiculous.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: It's something you could do to you in life. JJ.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: If you really think you're cursed and you think it
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: came from the doll, the best thing to do is
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: try and get into a meditation, to a very deep
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: state of meditation. Visualize the doll, and visualized a cord
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: between you and that doll, and imagine yourself cutting it
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: and telling him he no longer has control over your
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: life anymore. You're taking right to your life back.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: Thank you me. And I can certainly try that.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 8: It's worth a try, especially as opposed to anyone written
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 8: around with some Kalana colonoscopies or whatever.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: It's not a colonoscopy, asshole, it's a klonic They squirt
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: water in your ass.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: N it's worse.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 8: Come on, you're not making it sound better now. I
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 8: appreciate that, but I'll certainly try that. I I do, honestly.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 8: I finally, Yeah, I do joke about it, but that's
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 8: what I'd like to joke about everything in life.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: So I like to find humor even the darkest corners.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you kind of have to, you know, especially.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 8: You got a haunted doll, you know, creeping up on
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 8: you for twelve to thirteen years, you know what I mean.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: And just figured it out after six years of the
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 5: damn thing.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 8: To be fair, I was just ignorant. I was aware
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 8: of it. I just didn't want to accept it, you
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 8: know what I mean. It was a stage of denial
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 8: at some point, you know what I mean.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I was going to say something about comment
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: brit made earlier because I grew up in a haunted
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: house for real, and I've talked about my experience on
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: several different podcasts, and when people hear it, they'll ask
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: me to come on and do the story again. And
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: I always love sharing it because it makes me feel
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: a bit better about it, like.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 9: This really happened to me. Sure, but it does open
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 9: your mind.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: Up in a way where your reality isn't reality anymore.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: And I think it did make me more susceptible to
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: I have a conspiracy theory.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: Podcast, so I like to talk about paranormal I like
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: to talk about all kinds of stuff. But it almost
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: makes me wonder if I didn't have that experience as
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: a young kid, learning that there's more to reality than
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: we've been told if I would even be interested in
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: some of this stuff.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 9: So it's like you were.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: Saying, it's not even necessarily that like UFO and like
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: paranormal stuff or cryptids go together, but it does mean
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: more open to seeing those things, because you know, as
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 5: an adult, I've had experiences and like seeing stuff, and
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: I'll ask my friends and say, oh, I wish I
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: could see something like that. I never have, and I
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: don't know, it makes me wonder. It's like you have
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: the initial experience and then everything after that is just
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 5: kind of like you expect weird things.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: To happen to you almost and they do. You're just
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: more open. Yeah, I mean we're taught from a young
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: age to be closed off to all of that. From
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: the fluoride in our toothpaste that's constantly shutting our third
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: eye down, you know, it's it's hop that's in our body,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: to I mean growing in our water. Yeah, even in
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: a certain area, mean mine probably, but I filter that crap.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: But you sit there and you and you look back
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: over your life, like I'm thankful for my family. My family,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: especially my grandmother. She was so spiritual and like so
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: open to all of that. But she was always teaching
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: me how to just protect myself in every situation that
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: I had control, not them, you know, and having someone
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: to talk to and keeping and I hate you usuring
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: the word imagination, but that's really the key, because the
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: spiritual world uses the part of our brain that allows
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: imagination to create, because they have to go in there
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: for you to actually visualize and see them and be
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: creative because your analytical side of the brain will shut
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: it down. And when you go back through history, we
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: have been indoctrinated that none of this is real, none
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: of this is true. And if you have any type
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: of gift, no matter what that gift is, you were
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: insane and you were put in into a Saan asylum
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: and they were drilling it out of you with different
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: types of tools and techniques, and you were just going
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: to be drugged up because you were not fitting into
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: their perfect society. You needed to be removed. Right, So,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: if you weaken someone's mind, you have full control over them.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: The moment you have somebody with a strong mind, they
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: start finding the holes in your so called theories. They
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: start finding the holes and your ideas and your agendas
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: and your plots to where now you can't control that individual.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: So somebody with telepathy, get rid of that person. We
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: can't teach that. That's got to go. Somebody that has
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: the ability to move objects or bend objects, get rid
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: of them. They've got to go because now you're showing
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: these people that they might have that gift too. That
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: can't happen, and we're.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: All that it might be common, you know, more of them,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 5: and then they definitely don't want any people to think
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: that it's common, which is why I think they got
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: to start kids off like kindergarten, first, second grade, third grade.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: It's like, okay, they're at delay guard. Now let's let's
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: send them into the concentration fucking camp. And it just
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: like drains their little spirit.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: If they're in a concrete building, their feet are not
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: on grass anymore, they feel no soil throughout their day.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: They're not connected to the earth. They're in concrete buildings,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: no sunlight exactly.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 6: Jj.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: They're constantly being indoctrinated by one book to the next book,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: and this is how it has to be for eight
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: hours of a day. And if the parents are trying
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: to work their butts off to supply food for them
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: and a life for them, and a roof for them.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: The kids aren't getting the stimulus with their parents outside
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: or being free of that. They're put onto a tablet,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: They're put onto something. You know, when we looked back
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: just to the eighties, how much our lifestyle has changed.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: I talked to my folks, and my filks said, no,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: we actually would have to have breaks during the day
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: to go do physical work outside in school. We don't
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: do that anymore. There are things that have been completely
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: removed to structure a very controlled society to give them
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: full control over us. And honestly, and I'm saying this
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: from a personal outlook, my son is on the spectrum
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: learning him, watching his brain, and not by the spectrum
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: of severe. He's high functioning with sensory processing disorder. And
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: watching my son and how his brain processes the world
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: from color to sound to everything, and learning other children
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: like him, and seeing that they speak to one another
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: without using their words. But they will have full conversations
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: where our son will say, well, he was telling me this,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, how you weren't speaking Okay. They literally
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: know a type of telepathy within themselves that they can
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: talk to one another. It's really fascinating, especially when you
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: talk to the therapist with it, and being a mother
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: of a child with that, I now believe that they
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: are the normal ones and we're not. I believe that
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: we were so controlled into a narrative when we were younger.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: How many of us from the eighties and nineties, when
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: you would hear somebody was autistic, are like, oh, no, right.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: You were told that it didn't matter what part of
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: the spectrum they were on. You just thought, oh, that
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: poor child, like they must live with nothing in a
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: chair in a room somewhere and pure solitary.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: But that wasn't the case. We were being lied to
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: about it. There was multiple things that we all have.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: I hate noise doesn't mean I'm on the spectrum. It's
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: just something within my brain with frequencies certain noises I
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: can't handle. But if I was to be diagnosed now,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: they would have a bunch of verbiage for what I had.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: But I think it's the part of me that's heightened
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: that I'm not supposed to squash down. I need that
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: heighten of sound so that I'm more apt to hearing
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: different levels of frequency that our world around us want
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: to eliminate, like, for instance, to not get off topic,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: but quickly about sound. Our devices we used in the
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: early nineties and two thousands when we were doing EVP recording,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: it was done through a type of recorder that you'd
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: put the actual like V cassette tape in, put it in,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: and then you'd hit I have it. Where did I
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: have it? It's here somewhere, and you literally because I
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: still use old school, because it recorded every single frequency
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: in that room. It did not silence a single frequency.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: That's why to date they are still the best recorders
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: to capture electric electric He'll forget it. It's gone Brook,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: save me say if somebody say it phenomenon voices right EVPs,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: it's backwards. You guys know my brain is shutting down.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: It's after nine anyway. I when the new technology came
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: out where they started using electrical for EVPs, when you
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: actually get into the coders, do you know that it
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: went from let's just say I'm just gonna thro out
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: numbers so that we all understand like fifty frequency waves
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: to twelve. It would drown out all those other frequencies
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: because it felt it needed to focus on whatever was
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: just speaking directly to the closest to the mic, not
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: what else was in the background, the ambiance sound. But unfortunately,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: by doing that, you're removing all the layers of frequency
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: where we don't know where that spirit is crossing through
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: in that element. Because even when I was taught, it
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: was like if our time could slow with angels time,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: we'd be able to see them. So everybody's living in
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: a different frequency in a different time. So if we
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: drown out half of those frequencies, we're losing the sounds.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: We're losing them. So I refuse to use all the
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: newer to advanced tech because they're programmed to eliminate and
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: isolate different sounds, and we're losing those frequencies. So it's
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: the same thing with our brain. They're purposely rewiring and
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: removing elements that we need to basically help us to
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: grow and have our brain continue to grow and as
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: a society grow. What the hell happened? Wow?
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 6: What did you do?
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: That was so well said?
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: She got okay, I'm still here.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 9: She was really getting to a good point.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 6: Was okay, that was right?
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you were just getting to the good part.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: Government talked, baby, they shut me down every time. I'm
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: not joking at all.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 7: Something I say, and the Smithsonians here, they're in the
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 7: chat owned by the government.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: Oh god, I need to show up.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: Was a great present. That was a great thought.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 9: Brinny, thank you really sorry.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: I got.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: They also they they hit kids through like this school
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 5: provided lunches to It's like when I was when I
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: was in school, like in the early or the late nineties,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 5: early two thousands.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: They didn't offer you water as part of the lunch.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 9: It was like three different kinds of milk or orange juice.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: You didn't get water.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 9: You went from what seven in the morning until like
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 9: three or four in the afternoon with.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: No fucking water.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 5: If you got water, it was like the rusted out,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 5: nasty hepatitis drinking fountain that like all the kids put
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 5: their whole mouth on. It's like, I'm not drinking that
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 5: after like that fat kid just put his entire mouth
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 5: over it. Like I would be so dehydrated. And then
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: I go home and it was like, oh, drink a coke,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: drink a you know, it's like all it just yeah.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 5: It just became popular for like kids to take their
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 5: own water bottles and shit to school. I would have
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 5: loved to have my own water bottle but anyways, my
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: point is they've poisoned us in every way possible through
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 5: what we're learning, through the things that they're feeding us.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: Everything.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: If you look at a like a cafeteria lunch from
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 5: a public school, it looks like some shit from like
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 5: San Quentin, Like why am I eating prison food? It's like,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: you know, bean heard nasty ass fucking It looks like
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 5: the meat was dehydrated and you just added water to
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: it and mixed it up. I mean, this is what
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 5: they're feeding our kids, and then they're getting regurgitated. All
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 5: this history bullshit. This is this, And the Egyptians built
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: the pyramids with carrier pigeons and Hebrew slaves with whips
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 5: and chains.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 6: This is what.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 9: This is what we're giving our kids, and then we
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 9: wonder why they grow up and be Jeffrey Dahmer.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 6: Because of the school ones.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: I love the comeback. I love the callback of this.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, and that's Jeffrey Dahmer, right, teddy A,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: that's right, school freaking school customs.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 9: So the school, the schools, the whole system, the whole
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 9: system turned them.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: Into I feel like one thing that they can't argue
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: like it's an indicator that wait, you kind of want
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: to hurt us. It's twenty twenty five and there I
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: don't know of any food packaging that's safe. Plastic have BPA,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: I mean glass. Okay, there's some glass bottles of various
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: foods that are safe, but it's like how we have
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: every packaging is promoting more.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 5: Poisons, biowarfare, baby biowarfare. If I was going to try
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 5: to take somebody out, I wouldn't even have to touch them.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't even have to be in the same fucking room.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: I would just need to find out where they keep
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 5: their water or what sucking Starbucks they go to every
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 5: other Monday, and I could kill them without being insane.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 5: That's why bio warfare is like the most important topic
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: that I feel like isn't getting talked about enough right now,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: is because we're getting attacked on every level, spiritual, physical, everything.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 9: We're getting sprayed. Listen at my nose, Well, this isn't normal.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: I'm being sprayed.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 7: Even the clothes that we're wearing, the fabrics that we
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 7: put on truss that the highly has the chemicals in
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 7: it that are causing infertility. And if you look at
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 7: what's in the Victoria's secret bras or what's in underwear.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 7: It is causing a higher infertility rate, and I think
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 7: how many years are we down in the United States
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 7: for bursts?
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: The birth rate is declining, detergents.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 8: Awful even for the just washing your closing it. But
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 8: it's even worse when they put it on your school
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 8: cafeteria food. I got the French toast elementary school. They
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 8: had powdered sugar. It was the Tide turgentule.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 10: So maybe it's not Robert the doll JJ baking way
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 10: for school cabeteria lunches.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: We're onto something here.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: I think I'm telling you.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 5: There's so much to it, so again an even better
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 5: reason to use a colonic JJ. You got to flush
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: all that nineteen eighty seven.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: Taking it back man, the whole making it back.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 6: Oh, is there any questions anybody else wanted to ask?
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 6: I think maybe we could play wrap it up here?
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: Are you working on anything new? Bridge? I do have
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: some stuff in the works that I can't mention or
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: talk about yet, but as soon as I can talk
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: about it, I sure will. I mean, there's a lot,
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: a lot going on, just a lot, And if anybody
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: wants to follow. I try and give tidbits of information
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: through my Instagram. I'm not on TikTok, that damn thing.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: I'm frustrated as shit with TikTok. Nope, not doing it.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: So I'm just on Instagram, but I'm very active on there.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: I love interacting with everyone and talking to people. I
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: don't I'm not one of those that think I'm above anybody,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: so I'm give a shit. I'll talk to everyone. I
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: just I'm cool with I just I like talking to
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: people because I like theories and conversations. So that's where
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: I'm the most active. And then I have a Facebook page,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: but it's mostly just private for family and stuff like that.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: I don't again to my social media. I can't handle
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: it all, and like, just give me one outlet to
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: talk to people. That's like I come from the MySpace era. Okay,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: me too. I like that. I like one does one avenue.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's out it like just uh yeah,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: just hanging out. What is your Instagram? By the way,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: it's Brittany Underscore Barbieri Underscore, so it's pretty simple. Just
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: I couldn't get just simple Britney barberiacause apparently there's another
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: one out there.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: What created by the Smithsonian If I'm telling you, yeah,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 5: they're gonna take my stuff, you know.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: And once we get off this, I'm actually picking up
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: my my friend Marissa Teyas from Belie. So she's coming
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: to town. So I've got to go and pick her
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: up from the airport tonight. So it's gonna be fun.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. Yeah, So just a lot. It's like
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: there's always something going on, always something, for sure.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 8: I had one comment Nick, to follow up on. Great
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 8: conversation is always a great great great to meet you.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 8: Their man was a fellow cult rejects, is always great,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 8: great convo. If you all were any of the folks
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 8: of the interwebs wanted to visit that Walmart I was
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 8: talking about with the Mound Museum. It's in Canton, Georgia.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 8: You find yourself traveling between Atlanta and Chattanooga anytime soon,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 8: you need to take a Walmart break, you know, stopping there,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 8: you check out a Mound Museum while you're at it.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be a couple of weeks and I'm
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 5: going to be like, we're stopping off literally say that job.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, going to Canton Georgia. A lot of fun spots there. No,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: but we're going.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: George Mounted Yeah, super hot that northern area.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: Was it Georgia? I want to say it is Georgia.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna look it back up later. But if you
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: google I, do you think it's Georgia? Is it Georgia?
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: I was in, yes, near about an hour north from
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: jackyll Island. The werewolf werewolf girl. Oh yeah, you can
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: go to her grave. Definitely look up her story. It's
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: really great. Ooh, that's all I'm gonna say, because I
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: want you all to look into her. It's a great
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: story that the legend is like, was she really a werewolf?
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 8: What was she?
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. It's crazy. It's good stuff, cool, nice.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: Definitely check that out, all right, Uh, Gues We'll let everybody.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 4: I just remind uh everybody shows and stuff.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: Julia. We'll go with you, Julia. Let everybody know what
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 6: wre they can find you working.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Nick.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 9: It was a great conversation tonight, Britt. I loved it.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 5: Love everything you said. We'd be besties if we weren't
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 5: millions of miles apart, so.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: Be digital besties. Yes, besties.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: There we go there we go. Thanks for everybody putting
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 5: up with my voice tonight too. I saw like free
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: and Thrasher, but hopefully it'll be cleared up by the next.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: Time we get together. Yes, I'm Julia.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 5: Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you listen to podcasts and uh
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 5: unofficial or official occult reject, whichever one you prefer.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 9: Thanks for having me, Nick.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 4: Yes, of course, of course. And Brooke, let everybody know
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 4: where they can find your show please.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you can find me wherever you get your podcast,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 7: but Dark Florida podcasts on Instagram, come over and connect
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 7: and yeah, thank you again for having me on.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: This was great. I love this conversation. I feel like
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: we went down avenues. I wasn't expecting him. That's what
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's much stuffer than I expected. One a lot
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: better actually, JJ. Let everybody know.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 6: What's going on.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: Great combo.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 8: JJ Vance, host of Operation GCD Live Wednesdays and Fridays
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 8: with Nick on our Friday show.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: And once again, not the vice president.
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  Speaker 4: Do not vote for me in twenty twenty eight, the
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: last for not least ethan in the GOYJ.
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  Speaker 3: That was awesome. Thank you guys for all the information
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 3: and JJ for all the laughs. I just the article
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  Speaker 3: I just finished is on the circumpunct as a meditation
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  Speaker 3: tool on the occult Rejecks Institute. Britt Ney, that was
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  Speaker 3: wonderful to talk with you.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you very much, Ethan and Britty, thank
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  Speaker 4: you so much for coming on. Let everybody know where
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  Speaker 4: they can find all your stuff again, please.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just head over to my Instagram handle Brittany Underscore Barbieria.
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  Speaker 2: It's b Ri t t a n Y Underscore Barbieria Underscore.
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  Speaker 2: In the links there is my website, my clothing company
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  Speaker 2: and all the things that I am currently attached to,
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  Speaker 2: including the Crypted Women's Society based out of New Zealand, Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Lots of good stuff going on. Crocodile Research Foundation is
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  Speaker 2: another thing. I'm a board member on a director on that.
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  Speaker 2: We handle for education and conservation for crocodile species and
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  Speaker 2: anything that lives within the crocodile space, so that would
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  Speaker 2: be all animals basically on and branching out and it
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  Speaker 2: works with our doctor Marsteez in Belie with the Crocodile
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  Speaker 2: Research Coalition working tirelessly to help save and preserve the
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  Speaker 2: species in Belie as well as all the others and
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  Speaker 2: the mangroves to protect the island. Thank yous all there
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  Speaker 2: on Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and if people are watching or if they're checking
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  Speaker 4: out the video, her name underneath there is the you
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  Speaker 4: know her Instagram Instagram take, so it's right there.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: And I'll leave all the links in the bottom for you.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Like like somebody else had said, Uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we talked about a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 4: I think Brooks said it, you know, tongus of different things.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting. I probably had about ten other questions
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  Speaker 4: about you your personal work. Maybe we can get you
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  Speaker 4: on it one one other day and talk about some
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  Speaker 4: other stuff. But thank you again. That was a lot
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  Speaker 4: of fun. That was really interesting stuff. Again I guess, uh,
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting you to be such a conspiracy theorist
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  Speaker 4: as well as a.
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  Speaker 6: As a parent. Yeah question yeah, yeah, I know of that,
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  Speaker 6: aren't so? So it was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you.
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  Speaker 4: I thoroughly enjoyed it. And uh and thank you and
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  Speaker 4: thank everybody in the chat. The chat was off the hook.
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  Speaker 4: It was a lot of great things going on in there.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you everybody from all old channels, checking it out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and thank you for the other channels that stop buying,
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  Speaker 4: and so what's up.
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  Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the end of another recult Rejects and until
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  Speaker 4: the next one, everybody be well later