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Ep. 81 : AL West Preview With Sam Wirsching · Cards & Categories

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome everybody to episode eighty one of Cards
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  Speaker 1: and Categories. I am Mike Coolard from ras Ball, joined
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  Speaker 1: as always by my very good friend Jeremy Burr, also
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  Speaker 1: from ras Ball. I've been wondering, has your phone just
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  Speaker 1: been blowing up ever since the Yankees retooled their facial
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  Speaker 1: hair policy, and now that you're allowed to play for
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees, obviously that is the only thing holding you
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  Speaker 1: back from signing with them all these years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the offer's been on the table for
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  Speaker 2: a while, but I just couldn't. I couldn't bear to
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  Speaker 2: lose the beard I've I mean, I've had facial hairs
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  Speaker 2: for twenty years and I just don't think it'll do
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  Speaker 2: my attendee. So my friend, okay, well let's let's not
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  Speaker 2: go too far here. But you know, I the contract
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  Speaker 2: offer was out there. You know, it was either a
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  Speaker 2: million dollars shaved the beard, and I said, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I've got hold my principles in my bad back and
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  Speaker 2: we'll call it a day. So, yes, and my phone
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  Speaker 2: was blowing up more because spring training started than anything else.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I hear you. So I will link to that
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  Speaker 1: And like I said, anything else that we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: in the show, we are gonna preview the Al West
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  Speaker 1: Today with Sam Wershing, who is a part of the
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  Speaker 1: I always mispronounce it, but it's the Palazzo Podcast and
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  Speaker 1: Dynasty Guru. If you've been to First Pitch Arizona, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you know Sam because he is one of the
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  Speaker 1: most generous and just happy, go lucky guys that you
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  Speaker 1: can ever find. I love chatting to Sam. Met him
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  Speaker 1: out there and that's how we linked up. He's a
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  Speaker 1: big Sale Manners fan, so he knows Al West in
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  Speaker 1: and out. He's gonna help us get through that last preview.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into that, though, brew let's get into
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  Speaker 1: some quick news and notes. We've just got a few
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  Speaker 1: bits and bobs. So first one we have is Andrew
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  Speaker 1: Heaney signing with the Pittsburgh Pirates, which this I think
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  Speaker 1: is a pretty intriguing signing considering the home park that
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  Speaker 1: the Pirates have, and he should slot into that rotation
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  Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Looks like he's been also assigned number zero,
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  Speaker 1: which I love to see. That's a goofy number for
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  Speaker 1: a pitcher to wear. But he is coming off of
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  Speaker 1: a season in which he threw one hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 1: so so innings for the Rangers four twenty eight era
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  Speaker 1: with a eight point nine K nine. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think he can do with the Pirates?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you classify this right. It's like an
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  Speaker 2: intriguing landing spot because he need for the longest time
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  Speaker 2: was this like tons of potential, but pitching it in
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  Speaker 2: La for the Angels and they just didn't know what
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  Speaker 2: to do with him. He was a little bit erratic
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  Speaker 2: here and there, but like there seems that there's always
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  Speaker 2: potential there. And I really like the move to Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 2: just because they really feel like they've figured out what
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  Speaker 2: to do with pictures and kind of how developed them,
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  Speaker 2: and so I'm hoping that they kind of do some
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  Speaker 2: of them because his game last year, he just he
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  Speaker 2: left the ball the air too much and that really,
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  Speaker 2: you know, damaged him. He he tends to give up
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  Speaker 2: decent amount of homers and I'm and he's lost a
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  Speaker 2: tick on the fastball, and I'm just hoping that they
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  Speaker 2: can tweak that arsenal just slightly and you know, he
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  Speaker 2: ends up kind of in that back rotation, reliable, steady
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  Speaker 2: Eddy kind of guy. I think that there's a potential
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  Speaker 2: for that. So I'm intrigued in my targeting heavily. No,
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  Speaker 2: buts you know, this is a dart throw late in
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  Speaker 2: the draft. If my rotation needs a little help or
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  Speaker 2: little reinforcement. Absolutely, So I think it'll be fun. He
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  Speaker 2: should absolutely have a spot there behind the kind of
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  Speaker 2: the top three of you know, Jared Jones, Mitch Keller
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  Speaker 2: and that the other guy can'tmember his name. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's Paul Skeens for for the Pirates, he should be
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  Speaker 2: that number four, no question. He'll be that veteran that
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  Speaker 2: they're looking to learn from. So I think this is
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a fun one to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too, And just like could be
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  Speaker 1: a pretty big source of strikeouts where he's going. It's
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  Speaker 1: hard to find strikeouts late this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 1: I think he needs a good person to keep in
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  Speaker 1: mind for that. Okay, well it is kind of injury.
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  Speaker 1: So we covered a few last week. Big one now
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  Speaker 1: to go on top of one that we covered last
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  Speaker 1: week with Frankie Montes for the New York Mets. Now
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  Speaker 1: we have Sean and Iya going down with an oblique strain,
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  Speaker 1: which is no bueno for a picture at this point
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  Speaker 1: in time because oblique strains just scare the living. But
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  Speaker 1: Jesus out of me for pictures that Like we talked
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  Speaker 1: about this a little bit last week with Montes, where
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  Speaker 1: especially if you go down for four weeks here in
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  Speaker 1: the spring, you're already not going to break camp with
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  Speaker 1: the team. Then you have to rehab. We talked about
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  Speaker 1: last week with what that did to Blake Snell. Are
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  Speaker 1: you worried about the same thing with Sean andya here?
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  Speaker 1: And then we did cover in our Mets preview pod.
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  Speaker 1: We picked a couple of pictures ourselves. Are you bumping
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  Speaker 1: any of those pictures between like Brandon Sprout and Jonah
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  Speaker 1: Toong maybe higher up your list because things are already
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  Speaker 1: getting desperate in Queen's.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I am concerned. It's it's like, these
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  Speaker 2: are the things you don't want to deal with. You
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  Speaker 2: don't want to for pictures, Like first of all, arms
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  Speaker 2: like they're they're important, But then when you start getting
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  Speaker 2: to that core, you start talking with the lats of
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  Speaker 2: the obliques, those kinds of things like that core rotational Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, mechanism is so so important and you can't
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  Speaker 2: start your season late, especially with those, and you can't
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  Speaker 2: rush those along. So yeah, the Mantassam and Iah both
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  Speaker 2: guys I'm not relying on. I have no interest in
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  Speaker 2: them whatsoever at this point, but it does intrigue me
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  Speaker 2: for those young guns, like what could be from a
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  Speaker 2: for a guy like Sprout because all that's sit between
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  Speaker 2: him and you know, a major league rotation option right now?
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  Speaker 2: Are Paul Blackburn and Griffin Canning not the models of consistency,
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  Speaker 2: not the models of what I want to rely on.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give it maybe a little more credit to Blackburn
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  Speaker 2: for a being consistent maybe company. Yeah, so I think
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  Speaker 2: there's absolute opportunities there and they're they're one injury away
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  Speaker 2: from having to go there. They're they're where they're at
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  Speaker 2: right now is like if I got if I if
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  Speaker 2: I see some potential, I might want to go there
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  Speaker 2: because this is not a team that is like playing
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  Speaker 2: it safe. This is a team that's going they want
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  Speaker 2: to win. They paid a little bit in the off
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  Speaker 2: season for this guy. I can't remember again. Names are
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  Speaker 2: failing me. I think it was one Soto and so
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  Speaker 2: how you brought Pete Alonzo back? Like you're you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to waste that. So they're not going to rely
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  Speaker 2: on the guys like Blackburn Canning that long if they
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  Speaker 2: have guys come up behind him that look good. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm intrigued at the expense of guys like uh
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  Speaker 2: Mon tops uh here and and Manaiah, So unfortunate for them,
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  Speaker 2: but might be hidden gym for somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy that the Mets they did, I guess
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  Speaker 1: sign Jose Urina today, which is not papering over this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it's kind of a great landing spot
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  Speaker 1: for Kyle Gibson Lance Lynn type where where if you
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  Speaker 1: are in a draft and whole situation and like want
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  Speaker 1: to take a dart throw in one of those guys,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to get a job here within the next
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  Speaker 1: week or two. Yeah, and they should be like, there's
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  Speaker 1: such veteran presences, it's not gonna take much for them
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  Speaker 1: to ramp up.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we've got another relatively well it's technically a minor
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  Speaker 1: league signing, but I don't know if it might be
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  Speaker 1: minor in stature for our fantasy game. Mark Kanaha is
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  Speaker 1: joining the Milwaukee Brewers, I guess should say is rejoining
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  Speaker 1: them as Blake Perkins fractured his shin and kind of
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  Speaker 1: is looking to be out, probably like four to six
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  Speaker 1: sch weeks. But we saw what a fractured shin did
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  Speaker 1: to Kyle Tucker last year that it's a tough injury,
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  Speaker 1: especially given that Perkins was probably going to play a
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  Speaker 1: smidge of center field and really was a.
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  Speaker 2: Sneaky stolen base option.
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  Speaker 1: I think in option in drafts that's pretty much gone
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know how many steals you can count
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  Speaker 1: on Perkins this injury. But I know you've always been
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  Speaker 1: a big fan of Mark Canhap but this honestly gives
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  Speaker 1: him a pretty decent pathway to a nice role with
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  Speaker 1: the Brewers, because when we went through that preview last week,
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  Speaker 1: there are lots of platoons and kind of part time
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  Speaker 1: players in Milwaukee, but somebody like Canha might be able
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  Speaker 1: to break through some of that noise. Do you think, like,
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  Speaker 1: are what types of leagues are you maybe intrigued on
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  Speaker 1: picking up can HAA because I know you like the
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  Speaker 1: skill set, maybe like the situation now too, Yeah, like.
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  Speaker 2: Situation, like the skill set little questionable on the aging
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  Speaker 2: curve at this point for Kanna, you know, I'm definitely
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  Speaker 2: in our only leagues. I'm intrigued, maybe fourteen sixteen teamers
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  Speaker 2: I'm interested in when I'm talking about my interest, it's
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  Speaker 2: much more of like, this is a guy that, when
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  Speaker 2: you're looking to fill a spot, can bring you good
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  Speaker 2: stats across the board, not outstanding stats, And that's what
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  Speaker 2: he's been throughout his career. He's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: decent average, He's going to have some power, some speed,
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be able to score a few runs
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  Speaker 2: like he's he's really a great filler. And so when
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  Speaker 2: you're in a deep league, you need those kind of guys.
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  Speaker 2: You need those guys that are going to get playing
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  Speaker 2: time and phil and so it'll be interesting to see
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  Speaker 2: what actually happens here. Like I said, I do have
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  Speaker 2: a little question of the agent here. Is he slowing
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  Speaker 2: down or is it going to be a little tough
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  Speaker 2: for him, because he twenty twenty four was not the
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  Speaker 2: best year for him by any means. But it'll be
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see where he lands a spring rolls around
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  Speaker 2: the corner here and is he making that roster and
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  Speaker 2: is he kind of sneaking at bats and stealing seeing
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  Speaker 2: playing time. There's not much better landing spot for him
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  Speaker 2: at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and everything that you said also just makes me
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  Speaker 1: think this guy is going to be written about in
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  Speaker 1: my waiver wire calm. You're going to talk about him
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  Speaker 1: all year, yes, because this is kind of like the
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  Speaker 1: classic type of player where he plugs and plays pretty easily,
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  Speaker 1: because it's like a fifteen fifteen ish profile when it's
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  Speaker 1: a full kind of season of playing with a league
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  Speaker 1: average batting average, but like he's got the pathway to
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  Speaker 1: first base with Breeze Hoskins kind of like if anything
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  Speaker 1: happens there and then I do not trust south Freylick,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't totally get south Freylick. And you can
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  Speaker 1: see where Canahak can make this line up pretty quickly
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  Speaker 1: that like, if he does start doing that also just
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  Speaker 1: an intriguing option in shallower leagues where fifth outfielder can
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  Speaker 1: be hard to fill. And if you've got somebody like
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  Speaker 1: Kanaha who can provide double digit homers, double digit stolen
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  Speaker 1: bases not sink your batting average, that's easy found Bunny Yep, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well with that that, Like I said, it's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: brief news and notes. I will link in the show
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  Speaker 1: notes the schedule for baseball cards. No significant updates since
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  Speaker 1: last week. Still just because we're all basking in the
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  Speaker 1: glow of top Series one still being out, but we
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  Speaker 1: will start turning the corner to some more twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four releases finally hitting shelves and then honestly, I'm pumped
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  Speaker 1: after that because we're gonna get right into the prime
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  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five releases. But with that, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to take a short break, but we will be back
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  Speaker 1: with Sam Wishing to discuss the Ale West preview, So
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  Speaker 1: stick around everybody, all right, Welcome back everybody. From the break,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get right into our Ale West preview and
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  Speaker 1: to join us here to scope out what's happening in
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  Speaker 1: the Al West. We brought out one of our West
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  Speaker 1: Coast respondents here, Sam Wishing from the Paul Palooza uh
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  Speaker 1: mana podcast pub. Yes, give me two z's and then
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  Speaker 1: you've been at Dynasty Guru. But I think everybody knows
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  Speaker 1: you within the baseball podcast world and from First Pitch
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  Speaker 1: Arizona as everybody's favorite game show host. We met at
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  Speaker 1: First Pitch Arizona twenty twenty four, so it's been great
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  Speaker 1: to kind of spark that friendship. Great to have you
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  Speaker 1: on here for our Ale West preview.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I'm looking forward to having a
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  Speaker 3: lively conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you're joining us from up near Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: so you obviously are clued into all these teams in
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  Speaker 1: the Al West, because I'll admit this is probably one
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  Speaker 1: of the divisions I watched the least just in the
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  Speaker 1: Central time zone. If I am watching in West Coast,
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  Speaker 1: game usually involves show Heyo Tani, So there's that factor.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm watching a West Coast.
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  Speaker 3: Game, watch must watch baseball.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess I watched a lot of it when
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  Speaker 1: he was on the Angels because I spent a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time watching those Angels teams. But without him around there,
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  Speaker 1: I think we've still got some fascinating teams. It should
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  Speaker 1: be a wide open division, I think in terms of
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  Speaker 1: who's competing as What we're going to do is go
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  Speaker 1: through each team and preview them a little bit on
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  Speaker 1: like kind of what they're doing in the off season
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  Speaker 1: or have done. Gonna go alphabetically by city all the
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  Speaker 1: way through, which is the way I organize my baseball cards.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the way that we do these previews on
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  Speaker 1: each team. We are going to do a buy, a sell,
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  Speaker 1: and a quote unquote prospect pick to click, so a
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  Speaker 1: younger player who we think can have a major impact
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  Speaker 1: on fantasy teams for twenty twenty five. And we've got
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  Speaker 1: forty five picks to get through, so we're gonna rattle
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  Speaker 1: through these at a pretty decent clip hopefully. I think
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  Speaker 1: we've got some good discussions coming up. But let's start
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  Speaker 1: with those Houston Astros. They are alphabetically the first team
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  Speaker 1: here in the West, which is kind of weird with
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  Speaker 1: the h but this is why I think the ale
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  Speaker 1: West is pretty open. It seems that this team has
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  Speaker 1: taken a little bit of a step back. They sold
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker in the offseason, They've lost Alex Bregman. Jose
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  Speaker 1: Al Tuve might be manning left field some going into
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  Speaker 1: this season, which is kind of crazy, but they should
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  Speaker 1: be getting some of that injured pitching back and they
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  Speaker 1: are going to just be a formidable force I think
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  Speaker 1: going forward. As you know, they still are getting heavy
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  Speaker 1: investment from the ownership group, even if Jim Crane is
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  Speaker 1: maybe pressing a few too many buttons for anybody's liking
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  Speaker 1: down there, not like too many people really like the
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  Speaker 1: Astros anyway, I don't think I'm taking a crazy stance
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast, integrating the Astros. But with all that, Sam,
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  Speaker 1: who is who's your buy down in Houston going into
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I really like Houston's lineup. I think that their
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  Speaker 3: play discipline up and down that lineup is just amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And I really think that the new face of a
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  Speaker 3: Soak Parades coming over is really going to do something
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  Speaker 3: at the top of that lineup. I think this is
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  Speaker 3: going to be the best lineup that he's been a
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  Speaker 3: part of, and he slots in nicely between al two
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  Speaker 3: Ve and Alvarez. He'll probably bet two in that lineup.
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  Speaker 3: That's what roster resource has I'm at, and I tend
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  Speaker 3: to agree with where they have him for that. So
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  Speaker 3: I just think that he is just going to get
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  Speaker 3: a ton of counting stats. You are looking at somebody
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  Speaker 3: who's going to have monster run in RBI numbers, hit
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  Speaker 3: a fair number of home runs, and probably isn't going
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  Speaker 3: to kill you at the batting average. You know. I
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  Speaker 3: really feel like he has a low k rate, he's
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  Speaker 3: got a high walk rate, and so we're looking at
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  Speaker 3: somebody that might hit two seventy to eighty two ninety
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  Speaker 3: this season and really cause some damage in your fantasy lineup,
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  Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to him and I'm trying to
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  Speaker 3: pick him up wherever I can.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is a great pick. I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at ADP data for draft champions over the past month
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  Speaker 1: as we're speaking here on February twenty seventh, which is
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  Speaker 1: kind of great. I have enough data now they can
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  Speaker 1: run a month back Prad. This is going absolutely two
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  Speaker 1: hundred th off the board, So that's pretty deep.
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  Speaker 3: Brew.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're already probably looking at it. But what
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  Speaker 1: would his total of home runs been in Houston? Because
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  Speaker 1: I think that I think you hit it right on
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  Speaker 1: the nose here, Sam, in terms of what the secret
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  Speaker 1: sauces with Parades with that flyball pole heavy approach. Now
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: that we have the Crawford boxes.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know me too. Well, he had nineteen homers
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: last year, he would have had twenty six of playing
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: everything over there with the Crawford boxes. And I'm I'm
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: right there with you. I don't know who I'm buying
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: two seventy to eighty for Ezak, But he also might
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: just hit off the wall and make it work out.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: So I could be wrong, but I was a full
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: sell on Parides prior to the move to Houston, because
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I just couldn't stand the profile of literally just pull
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: everything and hope for the best and then you go
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: to like the one ball part. I mean, knows what
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Houston's smart, it's the one ballpark that this works. Well,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: maybe second Tampa works as well.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tamp not this year.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: But and so I think it's you're absolutely right, Like I,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: It's like before he was a cell and now he's
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: a bye. His his ADP didn't change enough to kind
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: of account for that. So I think it's kind of
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: a steaky value where he's at. Absolutely, he was my
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: second on my list for the Astros. I just couldn't
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: commit to him since I sold him prior to the
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: off season before he got traded. I had too much pride.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: I think also him slotting in at a quarter enfield
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: spot really adds to the value that he's going to
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: provide a lineup. There seems to be a ton of
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: second base and shortstop this year. That hasn't that those
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: positions have felt a little scarce. We'll see how the
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: season plays out, obviously, but that was another reason for me.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Was I just I love the position.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Jeremy, who is your number one buy
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: in Houston, then.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Well, if you've listened to this podcasts at all, you
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: know who my number one buying Houston is. It is
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Hunter Brown. I absolutely love Hunter Brown. Loved him for
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: a few years except for May of last year, or
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: actually so I was April last year. I did not
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: love him so much then. But May on last year,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: guy was one of the best pitchers out there over
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: about one hundred and fifty Indians eleven games, struck out
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: nine and a half per per nine, walked two eight
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: per nine, and delivered a two and a half er
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: really supported by all the other metrics, and so he
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: just was absolutely dominant. He figured things out and he
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: carried it through the season. And he's one of those
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: guys that goes deep into games. He pitched into the
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: sixth the vast majority of the time. He got into
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the seventh a number of times as well. And I
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: think he's still getting getting better. So at this point,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: the ADP just doesn't seem to make sense for him.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: He's still in He's still probably two three rounds later
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: then he should be going for me. So I'm picking
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: up Hunter Brown left and right this this offseason.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this pick especially if you're trying to
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: pick up some extra k's in your like number two starter,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: perfect pick, all right, my buye. I'm actually surprised by
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: this because I think he was my cell last year
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: when we were doing this, but the price has been
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: really fantastic throughout draft season and over the past month.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: His ADP is right around like sixty two. It's from
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: per Valdez, who last year by our Player Raider on
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: ras Ball, came in as the forty first most valuable player.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Our twenty twenty five Player Raider for the Projections puts
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: him as the thirty ninth most valuable player. So with
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: all that, like, I do think that especially when you're
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: kind of getting in the range of you kind of
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: need to finally pop a number one starting pitcher where
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Valdez goes there and that kind of like fourth roundish range.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: It works for me just because you look at what
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: this guy's kind of put up over the past few years.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: It's been a pretty steady aty like fifteen wins somewhere
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: akin to like a low three ZRA. You're looking at
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: a pretty solid whip and then the strikeout rate isn't,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you know, otherworldly, But if you're getting one hundred and
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: eighty to one hundred and ninety innings from him. That's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: where you get the volume. Love the ground ball rate,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: some of the stuff has like diminished, but I think
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: that's why, like you're getting the value on the ADP
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: because like he just knows how to pitch. He knows
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: how to keep the ball on the ground. Great sinker,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and you gotta love the team around him to be
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: able to grab those wins, goes deep in games. So
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I'm buying from Brivaldez going twenty five.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Frankly, I wanted to sell Framber and then I
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: started looking at him and I'm like, I can't quite
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: sell it. Like to me little it's a little earlier
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: than one, and there's just something about totally watching him pitch,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't understand, but it works. And
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: so I just can't draft guys that I don't understand
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: why it works. And so I would still take hunder
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Brown over Framber Valdas all day, even though the stats
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: that you should do the opposite. More of it's kind
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: of the ADP perspective, Like I'm just not drafting almost
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: any pitchers in those first like five six, rounds and
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: then I'm just going hog wild in the like six
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: to ten round range and just picking like five straight starters.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: So I don't love Framber. But the more I looked
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: at him, like how can I sell that line? I
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: can't really full sell the line. There's just something about
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: it that I just can't fully get on board with. Yeah,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I can't put my finger on it. It's just like
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that eye test. And that's why I'm not a scout.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's the volume sneaks up on
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you too, where like it is so many more innings
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: than everybody else that it's a little bit of like
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: what standia all contrast? Did you know?
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: But I sold last week?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: But this is a weird position considering I also bought
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Aaron Nola for the same reason the other week. That
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a crazy time. I can't believe that
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I'm doing this. But let's get into some of those cells. So, Sam,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: who are you selling from? The Astros?
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Selling Christian Walker?
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: The new signing.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: So Christian Walker is pretty pretty. He's a great player,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: you know. I I hate to say that I'm selling
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: on him, but I think that there's you know, you're
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: gonna get the opposite reaction with Christian Walker coming to Houston.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: I think that there's just something about that spot there
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: for him where I'm just not I'm not feeling it,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: and I wish I could tell you something about his
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: approach or the underlying numbers. I just don't. I've never
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: been a Christian Walker fan. And maybe maybe it's jose
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: of Bray, you flashbags, where I was so in on
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: them finally getting their first basement, and maybe this is
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: this is it, maybe this is the redemption and I'm
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: going to be completely wrong, but I'm avoiding Christian Walker
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: everywhere I can. There's a few other players that I'd
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: much rather have at first base than him. I'm rather
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: take a chance on Vinnie pas Quentino, to be honest,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: No couple rounds later.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: That's exactly it. And I think too like Walker looked
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: rough in the second half last year. I know he
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: was a little nicked up. I think he battled an
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: oblique injury at some point during this season, but it
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: was a two oh seven average in the second half
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: with a ninety three WRC plus, not something you want
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to see from a thirty three year old first Baseman. Yeah, Jeremy,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: who's your cell here for Houston?
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: This one feels like it obvious one, but I still
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: have to do it. I'm selling Ronel Blanco. He's like,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I look at it. He's not like he's going that
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: high in the draft. I changed my ADP data here,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: but I think he was going two forty four. I'm
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: not using Draft Champions ADP because I'm lazy and didn't
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: want to click the drop down. But at the end
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: of the day, he's one of those guys to me,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: just kind of like Sammy just said, I'm just not
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: drafting them. I don't care where you give it to me,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not drafting him. He gives me Bryce Elder vibes
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: all over the place like he he he just he
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: just skimmed by on a low babit last year he
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: got lucky with from a left on base perspective. He
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: doesn't keep the ball on the ground enough. He had
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: his career year and walks at thirty years old like
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that just is gonna I mean, his career best before
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: that was four eight five, like per nine, like that's
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: going to regress. It just feels like there's all these
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: warning signs that you're gonna buy him and then think
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: you have to play him because you invested enough in him,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: and that's I just can't do that. I am avoiding
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: him like the plague. Somebody else can go on that
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: joy ride, but it's gonna come crashing down.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Yes, especially change up first. Guys
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: do kind of scare me for a year over year stuff.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: You're buying twenty four value and he's never going to
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: return that again. Last year was the year to pick
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: him up.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Correct. He did that and then he trailed off, but
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: the overall line still looks intriguing enough, and he got
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: It's the wins. I think they kind of trick people
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: to a degree. He had thirteen years just like hey,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: this can work. It's like, yeah, it works when you
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: have a job, and I'm not convinced he's going to
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: have a job.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, all right, I'll go ahead.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Sorry, oh oh yeah. I was going to go into myself,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: but mine is Josh Hater. So he's going off the
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: board around pick forty. It's just mostly like this is
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: another guy who kind of faded down the stretch, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: you can see it right in like his monthly splits
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the K minus b B. I mean the first month
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: was a little rough as I think he was getting
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: used to Houston, but it started fading like the he
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: was walking more guys, striking out fewer guys throughout the season.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And then this is another one where I look at
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the player raider compared to the ADP data, he's just
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: going about twenty picks ahead of where the player raider
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: hasn't projected for. Obviously, you're trying to chase that closer
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: to be able to lock that in. Saves are quite
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the bear to pick up in any NFBC draft, but
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I think you can just do better. Like in terms
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of guys going around him in the closing spot, Mason
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Miller is going kind of just right after him. I'd
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: much you'd rather go that route, yes, that like I
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: think you're looking at Josh Hader. He's got a lot
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: of mileage on that arm. He's over thirty years old.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And what also just gives me worries is you got
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Brian A Bray you sitting right there that if anything
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: goes off the rails for Josh Hader, Houston, with how
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: tight this al Wes could be, could move on. I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: think even given what they're paying Hater to be able
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: to kind of get him right the way that Milwaukee
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and San Diego have done in the past. So I'm
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: selling hater for all those factors.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Such a hater seriously, Well, he's he has shown a
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: lot of openings in his armor the last few years.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: He's not the closer that he was in Milwaukee three
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: four years ago. And it feels to me like Craig
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Kimberl or why can't I think of the boy Henley Janssen,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Where which which version are you going to get? The
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: odd year version or the even year version? Because it
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: seems like there's this roller coaster that they go on,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: and so yeah, the Hater's a tough one to pick
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: for that. So I appreciate you saying.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: That he's you talk about the roller coaster. If you
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: look at his splits by month last year, it was six,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: e're of six, e're of one, you're a of three,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: you're a of five, you're a blow one, you're of six,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Like it it was just a I mean, it was
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: just a roller coaster. Like you just didn't. I mean,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: he didn't. Nobody knows where it's going. That's the good news.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: But the problem he's part of, He's part of nobody,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Like you don't know where it's going either, So right, yeah,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I love the Craig Camerl Kendley Jansen comparison because, like
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: it is, it's teetering, like at some point haters gonna
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: fall into that. He's going to keep being the closer
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: because of what he did and what he can do.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's move on to those prospect picks to click,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: because Houston's a fascinating system for this and it's got
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: like some talent, but it's not it's drying up pretty fast.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: So uh, let's hone in on what picks we might have. Sam,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I'll pass over you for years.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: First, Well, I had a couple listed, but I think
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's Cam Smith the I believe he came
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: over from Chicago in that trade. You know. I've Houston
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: in the teens had just a phenomenal development organization as
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: they went through and redid the whole thing and that
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: foundation that they have now and I haven't seen a
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: lot of their young players really come into their own
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: and play in Houston. Well, Jordan Alvarez is the last
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: big name I feel like we've seen that was homegrown
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: from them, So I don't have a huge expectation, but
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I think that there might be opportunities with some of
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the players that they have. Maurice Dubon, is he going
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: to hold up all year? They've got some questions at
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: the end of their lineup. He gets a chance, he
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: could catch lightning in a bottle and show out. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: don't think he's going to be somebody who ends up
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: being a top one hundred hundred and fifty pick next year,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: but you could see Cam Smith if he's given a
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: chance becomes a top two hundred two fifty pick next year,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: that people want to see him.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think this is a great pick. I think
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: like especially when it came to first year player drafts
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: last year, he was fourteenth off the board for the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Cubs in that first round. But I mean, I think
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: he was one of those guys for Fantasy where I
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: was moving him up because the hit to a supreme
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and I think, uh, there's if they if Houston hack
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: gotten somebody like Smith back for Tucker, they might not
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: have made that trade. But when you're getting all of
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: those years of Cam Smith, it made it a lot
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: easier to swallow. Yep, all right, Jeremie, who's your pick?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah? So I had cam Smith was my second. I
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: almost put him the first, but I'm like, I know
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: somebody else is gonna claim it, so I'll let it
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: go elsewhere. And I'm going to the pure spirit of
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: what we've talked about with prospects. Pick the click and
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the guy that's gonna I think is gonna get valued.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna hit the majors this year.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: And this is a thin system, so like this might
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: not be the same as other team, but I'm going
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: with Luis and Carnassion from the Astros here first basement
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: of the system got to double A last year, and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I just really like the steady, good hitter he is.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: He's not a crazy hitter. He's not gonna go above
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and beyond across nighty one games last year he had
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: fifteen homers. He hit two sixty seven. But what I
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: liked is he had a k rate under twenty, was
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: really able to control the bat, and he when he
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: got to double A, he was not overmatched at all.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: He had eleven games, he hit four homers. He showed
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: that plate discipline and he showed that he has that
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: next gear potentially in the power. We're talking probably a
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: quarner infielder when he makes his way up to Houston.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: But I think he's one of those guys that has
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a sneaky profile that's really developed coming out of the
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: development complex and the Dominican and you know, making it
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: over to the minor League's there for Houston. So I
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: think he's kind of one of those sneaky guys and
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're gonna look up and when
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: he gets called up, look at what he did in
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the miners, be like, wait a second, he was doing
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: really really well. I need to I need to pay attention.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: So I think he's a sneaky value. I like that
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: deep cut. I had to look him up.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I'm raful too, because that's I'm a prospect guy and
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I was like, who.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shortking five foot nine for spaceman.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like it's just it's not like it's blown
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: anybody away here. We're talking like a future DH type
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: of thing here.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, but you've got a love of right handed bat
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: in what is the ballpark now, daikin or it's not.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I'm I still called say that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: We're just gonna go back to minime to move on
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: with life.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and Ron and Ron forever on fields, Okay,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: love it. My pick to click here is Bryce Matthews
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: because I think he so he was their first round
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: pick in twenty twenty three, had a pretty solid year
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: last year across four levels.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: It looks like, well, I think the.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: US there's a little bit of rehab time down at
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the complex, but across High A, Double A, Triple A.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: You know, got twelve games at Triple A he hit
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: two sixty five, three eighty four, four eighty one with
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: fifteen homers and thirty two stolen bases. That's only over
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: three hundred and forty four played appearances. So he certainly
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: he's a strong hitter coming out of Nebraska. And what
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: it actually reminds me of is, I think, especially rounding
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: into next year, is that he's do you remember that
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: year that where Jeremy Payna showed up to camp and
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: everyone's like, this guy is going to be the shortstop
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and then he obviously broke out pretty big. Bryce Matthews
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of that in terms of, you know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: a middling strikeout rate in the minors, but has the
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: right tools to put it together. The nice thing is
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: that Matthews also has the pathway two second base if
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: al Tuovey moves to the outfield, because I don't think
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: he's quite the same defender Painia was coming up, but
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of the same skill sets where
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: you're looking at somebody who at peak is going to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: be something like a twenty fifteen or maybe even more
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: like a twenty twenty twenty twenty five guy, because Matthews
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: runs a little bit more than Penia ever did. Never
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: going to be a huge batting average asset, but I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: think just a really sneaky kind of power speed combo
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: up the middle that I love everything that I've seen
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: in Bryce Matthews' profile, and I think he's not quite
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: as high on dynasy list as as you would expect
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: for that, but I think this is the year that
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: he really cements that and rises up.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, you bring up the k rate, and
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: he's got a high walk and a high k rate
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: as a prospect, and so if he can, if he
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: can get some control in that batter's box, he could
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: do some real damage. I could see him easily be
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: in a twenty thirty, fifteen to twenty five kind of
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: a player. So I like that call.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: All right, well, we are going to move out of
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Houston and get actually onto the west coast as we're
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: going to go to Orange County for the Los Angeles
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Angels of Anaheim of California, whatever they are called. I'm
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: waiting for it to change here. You know, they've been
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: running with this name now for a handful of years.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: It's time to change it again. But I think this
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: is more of the same for the Angels coming into
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, where kind of a confounding team roster
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: in construction. It will be Anthony Rendoneless, we know that.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: But Mike Trout is back. Crushed a homer yesterday. My
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: boy Tim Anderson crushed a homer today for the Angels.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Jan Mancata is down with muscle soreness for the Angels,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: so he's doing his thing. But it is a team
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: that is like it's the perpetual, like you're just kind
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: of like it's like a ship of thesis where like
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you're but you're moving with the Angels and it never
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: seems to work out somehow Ardie Marino keeps putting in
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: more and more money to this team, but will never
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: kind of like go to that next level. And so
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I don't have great hopes for the Angels in the
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: AOS this year, but I think it's a fascinating team
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: because what I've also discovered in the past couple of years,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: the ballpark plays really hot at the beginning of the year.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: You'll see it whenever you look at like the stat
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: cast metrics when they come out like part way through
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the year that I think it just plays warm down
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: in Anaheim. And so that's something to certainly I try
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to take advantage of early in the year. But given
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: all that, Sam, I'm going to pass it over to you.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Who is your bye here from the Angels?
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's really interesting. The Angels don't have
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: a single player that has an average draft position above
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: one hundred. They start out at one twenty with Logan Oha,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: one two with Mike Trout has fallen to one hundred
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: and twenty two ADP, which means he is my click
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: to pick. How when has Mike Trout been a ninth
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: round pick ever? Like this is this is just beautiful
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: and gorgeous, and I really think that show Hay's gone there.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: It's a it's a ship of fools like that, that
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: whole roster you you literally picked up the players that
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: the White Sox didn't want. And I'll just you can
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: think on that for a few minutes, right, Like that's
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: just I don't know what Ardie Moreno's doing. Also, but
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I think this is the year that Mike Trout doesn't
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: have a lot of pressure on him, and I think
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: that he's going to be able to return, probably play
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty games. I'm thinking he's gonna hit
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: thirty home runs. He might not be stealing as much
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: as he did before. He might get ten stolen bases
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: this year. I don't think that they're gonna want to
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: run with him, But I think that Mike Trout in
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: that lineup will still produce counting numbers. I think he'll
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: still hit for an average and power is hard to
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: come by in some roster builds, and so I think
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: he could be a surprising source at home runs this year.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know, Mike Trout is supposed to be
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: that perennial thirty home run guy a season when he's
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: healthy and plays the whole thing, But I think that
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: this is the year. If you've never had a share
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: of Mike Trout, this is the year to get a
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: share of Mike Trout.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more because he was also my bye
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: for almost exactly the same reasons. Yes, I was gonna
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: make some joke about Anthony Rendome McCool you ruined that one,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: but you're absolutely right, Like I feel like the market's
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: finally overswung on Mike Trout. They went the other way
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and they've Mike Trout. Could you said thirty? He could
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: hit forty without blinking an eye. And you know, we
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: talked about this a few weeks ago on the pod
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: when they announced that he's gonna play right field, and
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: for me, that was like the biggest thing in the world.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Like the Angels finally admitted they need to take care
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: of Mike Trout. Like like the Angels, I mean, that's
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: their admission, like that, like they they were whatever, actually
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: gonna say it. But like the fact that they're willing
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: to do that tells me they're actually gonna care about
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the guy now, Like last year he went out Gangbusters,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the guy running Wild and things like that, Like he's
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: still gonna proably it's Mike Trout, He's still probably gonna
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: do that, but like maybe just cool it slightly and
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: hit forty bombs and knocking one hundred and ten RBIs
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: and be happy, like right, and you get that ADP
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: of one oh five one one, whatever metric you're looking at,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: it's great. I will take it. So yeah, especially for
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: a draft like me who's a little more conservative in
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the early rounds, I'm looking for high floor things like that.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: You you get there around like eight, nine, ten, and you're like,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Mike Trout, that's my risk. Sure, Like I'm I'm going
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: over that cause I Mike Trout. The risk isn't is
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: he gonna be good. It's because he's gonna play, and
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I can. I can work around that. I can pick
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: up another guy to plug in. What I can't work
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: around is picking a guy that's gonna go up and down.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be having a pitch hick hot streaks, Mike Trout,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: He's ever not played.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: The only thing that concerned me again is these moves
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: at the front office made that. You know, they picked
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: up Kenlly Jansen when Ben Joyce was sitting right there.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: They brought in Jorge Celaire and it's like, you don't
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: need another d h outfielder. You literally, that's the wrong
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: person to sign. So like, I can't help but to
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: think the Angels are gonna Angel and ruin another season
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: of Mike Trout. But man, my fingers are crossed. Super hopeful.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: We're picking We're picking up the littlest indications here. It's
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: all ask him for his hope. Hope in fantasy can
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: be a strategy.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Hope is what Kilsey in the end, man.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think this was a great pick.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: He was in my consideration, but I figured somebody would
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: grab him, especially after that right field move. I'm going
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: to go with some of the One of the guys
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: that we have denigrated a little bit, it is Kenley
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Jansen is my buy here, mostly because like the price
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: is right here too. In terms of the ADP is
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: starting to creep up now that he has a team
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and a job. But like average ADP over the last
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: month is one sixty three, it ranges from one eighteen
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: to two thirty. But like other closers in that range,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Ryan Presley, Kirby Yates, we're looking at the likes of
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Carlos Estevez and Jordan Romano, so it's not exactly like
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the Great Spot of Closers. But like the reason Kenley
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Jansen went to the Angels is because this dude is
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: chasing the Hall of Fame in five hundred saves and
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: are Moreno said, yep, Kenley, you can come in here
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: and save as many games as you want. And so
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: because of that, like we do play in fantasy leagues
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: that need saves, I think this is of all those
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: guys I listed off, this was the best bet to
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: get thirty saves. I think that that's where Jansen's probably headed,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and if they want to sell them at the deadline,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: he just goes to another situation that I think, you know,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: creates a team that's actually winning more than the Angels.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: At least the Angels are like the beIN games, I think.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And so that's why I'm buying Kenley Jenson. I think
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: just the where he's going amongst the closer pool, it's
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: just a great price to try to find thirty saves.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I really I agree with that. There seems to be
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: this thing with managers that they want closers to close,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: that they don't want necessarily new names. And so as
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: much as this could have been an opportunity for Ben Joyce.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I think that you're right. Injury is the only thing
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: that keeps Kenley Jansen from hitting thirty saves.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I want to argue with you, but but it's a
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: volume play here. The only thing I don't like is
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: you said Ardie Marina would say, come save all the
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: games you want. Like, the Angels have to actually be
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: in a few games here for that to happen. But
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: you know, between Mike Trout and Kenley Jansen, it sounds
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: like the Angels are going to take the world by
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: storm this year.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're coming for you.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, You're about to witness like double digit Kyle Hendricks
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to Kenley Jansen shutouts. So it's coming, buddy, Like I
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: can see it. I can see it all right, Sam.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Who is your cell from the Angels?
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Any of their pictures?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Short?
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: You say?
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Kakuchi? Who? I think he's finally Toronto brought a little
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: bit out of him, and he seemed to settle down
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: last year in Houston when he was with the Mariners.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Anytime he was in any kind of big situation, runners
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: on bass, I need to protect the league. He always
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: seemed to get out of his head and kind of
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: not do what he was supposed to do. I think
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: he's actually going to be an anchor for that rotation
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: this year. But I don't want a piece of any
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: of the Angels others starters. I don't. I don't want
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: them for anything. I don't want them for drafting holds.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I don't want them for you know, your typical NFBC content.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Like I just.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Somebody else can draft them.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I think that's fair. It's a it's not a great rotation.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: After Kakuchi, you're looking at Jose Siriano, Tyler Anderson, Kyle Hendricks,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Read Deebt Meers. All those guys have their warts and
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: ups and downs. And I think the other factor here
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: is there's a lot of good pictures coming through the system.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if we see three or four
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: of those guys not have jobs just a couple months
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: into the season.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I really wanted to argue with you, Sam here because
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I just like to do so. And I went down
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: the whole list of pictures and the first guy that
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: like that sounds interesting was an ADP seven fifty with
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Robert Stevenson. But that was just because of the Kinley
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Jansen like, I think Robert Stevens is a better picture
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: when healthy, if he gets healthy at some point in September.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Like so, I'm like, if i'm if I'm looking at
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: like a sixty day I l guy to put on
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: my bench to hopefully become a closer in September as
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: my buye of that rotation and bullpen. I think you
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: make a very valid point.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right, who's your cell here, Jamie.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm selling all the tools in the world here
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: in Joe Adele. No, it's no, it's absolutely so you're out.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: You're out. I'm telling I'm telling Gray, You're going to
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: be being from Rasball. I don't think this is allowed.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Wait, is there something I need to know about, like
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: a Joe Adell LoveFest? Because Joe Adele is the best
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: for a player I've ever seen. He will never be
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: a major league player. He will always be just right there.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Just not it is. He is a little bit of
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: like a Rasball special. Marmo's dad loves him as well.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I love him.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you can.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: You can try them through.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: The I don't. I don't drink the Rasball kool aid.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I got ostracized years ago for my alderb to Mondy
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: hate when Gray loved him, and I think I've never
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: been fully invited back onto the island. This is the
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: same though, That's why this is exactly the same thing.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: And you know, this is a guy that his best
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: half of baseball last year he hit two thirty nine
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: with five homers. That was the second half, because he's
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: only played forty three games his first half. He's hit
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: one ninety with fifteen homers. The guy was caught stealing
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: ten times last year and twenty five attempts. Like he's
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: a terrible bass dealer. He can't hit for average, Like,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: so what are we buying here?
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Or look good in a uniform? Have you seen that
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: man's physique? I don't necessarily like men. And he's beautiful.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great on a baseball card as well?
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely as it Probably a top notch human beat.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Probably just loves his mom, does charity work in his neighborhood,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Like I'm expecting Joe adell as just this wonderful, wonderful
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: human beat.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, but he's the kind of guy all year long
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: you pull your hair out, you think something can happen.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: He hits three homers, still those five bases in a
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: week and you're like, here he is, and then he
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: hits nothing for the next month, Like and you just
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: happen to bench him for that one guy that one
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: day because he happen to be playing interleague in Colorado. Right.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: It's it's one of those weird things that I'm just like,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I don't care what he does. I'm fine being wrong.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Like that's that's what I feel like with Joe Deell.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: If he goes fifty to fifty, I'm still sitting there
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: going I have don't want no part of it because
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: it's just Joe Adell. It is just too much risk
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: for me. So Cooley, are you buying Jodell? Is that
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: what I'm hearing?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: It's I don't mind the price. It's like an average
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: pick of two eighty three that at that point you're
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: like eighteenth, nineteenth round, especially if you're in a league
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: where you can drop people that, Yeah, I'm picking up
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Joe Dell because.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: That's like saying there's a I would like, I can,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I can I met my deductible, so give me a coronary.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Like it doesn't, it doesn't make it better.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: It's it's mostly like the price is like when you're
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: chasing that ceiling. Like, sure it was like rough on
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: the batting average obviously, but let me see what he
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: clocked in on our player Rayl last year there that
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: season in a fifteen team team or I'm just even
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: a twelve team league. He I mean brought back two
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: dollars of value. So like what it is mostly is
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: like but like that's not where you're drafting him, Like
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be like a five to ten dollars player,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like there's a factor of
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: like you also just need steals and homers at some point,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: and like I'm willing to sacrifice that batting average to
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: chase that a little bit with him and love the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: home park. It is just like it's a lot of
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: those factors come together where I'm just not sure, like
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: who else in that range can give me this kind
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: of season and push it to like a twenty twenty season.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I can go on and on. Sam, you jump in
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: and tell him why he's wrong.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just curious, Like, so you would take Joe
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Adell over in a draft over Roman Anthony.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Probably honestly because of like unless at this point, yes,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: because I want Roman Anthony to have a job, but
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: give me another one.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking around him. There's Jordan Walker, there's Matt Wallner,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: there's Evan Carter, there's by You, there's Luke Rayley. Like
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: they're all just tough names to want to get into.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I almost want to skip down past them. They've got
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Heston Keirstead, Trevor Larnick, Yes, Dylan Moore Andy, I'd even
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: take Ben Attendy boring, asked Ben Attendy from from the
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: White Sox, because.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: He did break he just got hurts so much.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe because John Kenzie, Okay, I take I'd take John Kenzie,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Noel over Adell okay.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe it is also like because I think there it's
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: just in leagues. He falls to me, like I'm looking
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: at the DC that we did from first picture a Zona.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I took him in the twenty fourth round, Like you
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like at that point, if somebody
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: in the twenty fourth round he went right next to
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Tremor Larnak, Like that's kind of what I'm looking at.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: And in our league where I have the share to Jeremy,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: it's a pretty it's autoue, it's pretty deep. Like yeah,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking for something, and so I'm not like
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: investing heavily because I'm ready to cut loose when he's terrible.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: But I recognize that, like I'm chasing the upside here, well.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: And I do. I in all fairness, I want to
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: say that if he gets to five hundred at bats
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: this season, he will be valuable just simply because he
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: got the time in and he will hit home runs
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: and he will steal bases. But I just, you know,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know. The Angels are so dysfunctional. I shouldn't
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: say he's going to play himself out of playing time.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: They kept trying to put Rendon on that field.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: So like it's like Adele looks so amazing. The Angels
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: are like, we need you to get some more seasoning
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: in the minors, and now that he looks terrible, we
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: need to try to get you tested and played the majors.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Like it's the Angels we just don't understand.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: All right, that was a good Joe Adell sidetrack, But
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I loved it. Sorry, Joe, Yeah, sorry, I'm gonna go
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: with my celf Mine's. Actually this is a weird sell
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: because I like him as a player, and I just
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: don't like the price. It's Logan o'happy and mostly because
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: we've kind of breached this a little bit over the offseason.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Brew in terms of catchers deeper than you would think
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: it it usually is. And so like what you're looking
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: at with o'hapi is a lot of is he's struggled
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: to stay on the field between like he had that
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: gruesome shoulder injury a couple of years ago. Last year
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: he was battling some injuries as well, So like he
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: gets nicked and knacked a lot behind the plate, but
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: on top of it, like he's right now the ninth
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: catcher off the board. That's in front of the likes
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: of J. T Rail, Mudo, Tyler Stevenson, who we talked
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: about being great last week, even Francisco Alvarez, who's got
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: a better hitting like prospect pedigree than all HOPI ever did.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: In front of Gabriel Moreno, Austin Wells, Sean Murphy, Connor
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Wong is maybe like where it's starting to get a
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: little dicey, But it's just the price. I don't think
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: he's a top ten catcher. He's more of like a
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: twelfth best catcher for me.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: And so like he's going.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Especially, I can't believe like you would be sitting there
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: looking at him and g Trail Muto and thinking, hey,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I want Logan o'happy over real Muto who has done
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: it so many years previously. And like I said, we
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: covered Stevenson last week in our NL Central preview. That
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: just great bell rates And yeah, when you factor in
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: the angels of it all, what do you fully can
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: you really guarantee what o'happy's counting stats are gonna be
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: in that lineup? And so it's just the price. I
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: love the player, I love him if you've got shares
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and dynasties and keepers, but if you're in a redraft
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: league right now, it's just a little rich.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think his draft position is only on his
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: upside that he hasn't he hasn't given us that yet.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: He's a top two hundred overall pick. He's not, you know,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: one of the first catchers off the Board's he's your
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: catcher too.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's going in the top one twenty
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: No, that's crazy. I feel like any picture in the
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: next one hundred picks is like, yeah, they're all relatively
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: similar as far as what you're hoping to get So
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: he's just he's going a little too early. Maybe it's like, hey,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: what else is on the Angels? Might we'll pick one
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: of them?
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly. Okay, Well let's get into some picks
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: to click, because this is a fascinating system, given the
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: way that they promote prospects throughout and just fast track them. So, Sam,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: who are you going with on the Angels?
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: You know, I thought a lot about Caden Dana the
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: picture that they have, but I went with their second
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: basement Christian Moore. Seems like there's not a lot of
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: talent to stop him from coming up. I mean, they
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: could play him at second They might be able to
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: play him in the outfield if they needed to bring
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: him up. You know. He Yeah, he's got a high
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: k rate. So it's not my favorite. I don't like
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: their system a whole lot. To be perfectly honest, I
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: don't mean to be such an Angel's hater and apology
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: the listeners that love the Angels. I'm just not your guy.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: But I think if there's anybody that's going to break out,
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: he's the top prospect in that organization, and they've always
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: shown a willingness to play their play, their prospects, and
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: so I think he could be the person that comes
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: up and does something.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I like this pick. Yeah, the only thing standing between
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: him and a job right now is Yon Mancatta.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: So like I said, there's not a lot going on.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look at the system and there's like
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: one guy that looks like he could just jump tears,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: and we're looking at him and be like, why didn't
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: we see this coming? Like even though we see it coming,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: like what he could be, it was just phenomenal. He
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: was my pick as well, and the system is then,
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: but like he was head and shoulders above that. And like,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: if there's like I said, if there's one guy that
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: really is interesting in the system, it's more because he
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: could absolutely bust on the scene and do do damage
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Ye yeah, I'm going with a little bit of a
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: deeper cut. But also is just their second round pick
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: after Moore's first round pick last year, and that is
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Chris Cortes. Here came out of Texas A and M
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: last year mostly because I mean, I get the Ben
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Joyce love, but I think Chris Cortes is the closer
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: of the future here. Electric electric stuff at Texas A
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: and M last year and sixty four and two thirds
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: at Texas, A and M put up a fourteen point
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: two K nine. It is electric stuff too. I think
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: it's better than Ben Joyce's And I think you know,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I alluded to the Kenley Jansen trade. I think you
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: know Jansen probably moves at the deadline. And I think
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Cortes is a the one who comes up and closes
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: for the Angels and not Ben Joyce that I think
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Cortes gets into the minor leagues. The Angels see what
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: they like and they move them up really quickly, the
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: way they have with lots of other players.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that's an interesting one. Like I
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: it feels like Joyce and Cortez are like kind of
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: the same same guy. Like throw gas again, don't know
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: where it's going, and I I just I look at
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: the the Angels and go, it's the same thing with
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Kimley Jansel. You brought him in when you had Joyce.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: I it's just so unpredictable. So I love the the
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: concept of it. I just don't know that you can
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: map it out this easily as we want to.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think where he's going and like just Dynasty
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Keeper values is part of it that like, yeah, whatever
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: you were doing with Ben Joyce like when he was drafted, Yeah,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: it's at that point, like get in on it now
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: before we get into this point next year and everybody
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: is penciling and Chris Cortes to close for the Angels.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well let's move on to.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: One of the more interesting teams, I think, and mostly
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: because they're moving to a new ballpark. It's a minor
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: league ballpark, the Sacramento as Athletics. I'm gonna use reform
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: to Sacramento because I mean that's where they're playing from.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: And also it works out when you're organized. I don't
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: have to reorganize my cards for Oakland to Sacramento alphabetically
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: in my al West box. So love that. And I
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: think this is an intriguing team because one I have
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: to this year going to twenty twenty five remind myself
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I can't just stream every Athletics pitcher that's pitching at
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: home the way I have throughout my entire fantasy career,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: where it was great having them in the coliseum and
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: just kind of like being able to mix and match
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: pictures are going to be I think hard up in Sacramento.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: On the other hand, I think personally, I think lots
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: of people out there are just underrating the offensive environment
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: was going to do to these Athletics, considering they played
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: eighty one games in the coliseum every year. Even if
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Sacramento plays as a league average ballpark, that's a huge
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: upgrade from what Oakland was. And you're also bringing in
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: the factor of the heat in Sacramento. Intriguing team in
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: terms of I think they're on the upswing. They looked
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: really good in the second half last year. So all
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: those factors considering Sam, who is your buye from the Athletics.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I just real quick want to touch on the
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: fact that you know, we saw Toronto when they played
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: in dunid and what it did to their offensive numbers.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: And so I have a real interest in seeing what
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: happens with the Sacramento Athletics, and I've been There's things
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: that I've wanted to pick up during drafts from them
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: and others that I wanted to avoid. But the one
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: that really I'm interested in is JJ Blade. He seems
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: to be under the radar. You know, he's a late pick,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: but you look at the numbers underneath the hood, and
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: he's at a low k rate and a high walk rate,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: and he's going to be playing a lot of baseball
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: in a heavy offensive environment. And I think that you know,
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: in the mid two hundreds, you're gonna get you know,
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: a top one fifty player. I think he's really just
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: he stays healthy this year. I think he's gonna have
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: a lot of fun in that outfield because they the
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Oakland are sorry not Oakland, the Sacramento Athletics have a
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: really interesting lineup. It is it is not filled with
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: a lot of holes. They have some fun offensive talent there.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: And so you know, I think he's going to be
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: hitting in the middle of that lineup. I think it's
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: going to be a lot of fun for him this
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: year and people that draft him.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he really dropped his k rate last year.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: And the interesting like like it wasn't like he I
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: would say, got a better eye. He's just got more aggressive.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: He's just swung more. And that's that's like when you
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: think about like stain power of approaches at the plate,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: that's like in his control. That's that's a much easier
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: thing to say in your I got better. So that
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: is interesting, like to your point, he's probably not much
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: more in a league average hitter overall with some power upside,
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: but for where you're paying for him, if you can
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: hit two fifty two sixty, hit twenty twenty five bombs, Okay,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: well I'll take that that. I'll take that over Joe
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Adella all day, oh every day.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: And he's he's batting third on roster resource in that lineup,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: but I think that's probably also the right place for him.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: It's not the Gospel, but that's where I go to
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: see where somebody's going to be playing. And you know,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: he's twenty seven, he's entering in his peak prime. He showed,
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: like you said, that extra aggression last year. It could
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: be a lot of fun for not a lot of
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: draft capital. So he's he's my pick.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah. I wasn't given the choice of JJ
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Bladey or Joe adel though, so I would have taken Bldey. Okay,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: brew who is your buy for the Athletics.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: You know who my buy is gonna because I absolutely
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: love this guy, and it is Brent Rooker.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: He is one of the patron saints of this pod.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's a forty homer guy. He somehow
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: sneaks in ten steals. His average was two ninety three
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: last year. It's probably not gonna be two ninety three
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: this year, let's be honest. But to the point earlier,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: like he's moving to an interesting feel. I was actually
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: very surprised. I looked at the dimensions of the field
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: there in Sacramento. They're basically the same as the coliseum,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: but it's actually the way the ball flies. And Rooker
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: was actually interviewed of like, what do you think about this?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: He's like, well, it's not gonna be what everybody thinks.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna be a bandbox. It's not gonna be Colorado.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: He's like, but I've played there before. I've hit a
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: few homers there before. I think it's gonna be a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: league average stadium, unlike what Oakland was. And so if
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: he's saying that when he went basically forty ten, like
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: I'm easily locking another forty season with a little upside
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: on it. And the guy was stealing like he was
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: actually relatively efficient at it. He could probably sneak in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: a few more in a better offense. The last thing,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: the only problem he has is strikehouse, which is the
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: problem he had going into last year and he improved
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: by a little bit, and if he could just keep
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: growing getting a little better at that, because it's the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: one downfall he had, the sky's the limit for him.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: So when we're talking about a guy that is going
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: sixty first overall, like if there was any other player
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: you just didn't say the name and what team they
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: were on, it's like, hey, this guy went forty ten,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: hit two ninety three. That's the guy you're probably arguing
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: in for the first or second round.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And so we're sitting here looking at Rooker the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: fifth Okay, I will take that. That's freebies. I love
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Brett Rooker, absolutely love him.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Sam, question, where do you think Rooker came in
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: on our raspball player rader last year for twenty twenty four.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: Lucky number thirteen?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Wow?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Twelve, you're pretty close. That's impressive. But yeah, that's crazy
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: that somebody coming off of a season like that is
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: going in the fifth round.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: I agree that.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Like everything that you said in terms of Jeremy, like
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: of what you love about him and the k rate,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not even worried if you're if you have a
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: twenty eight percent k rate and it's coming with a
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: sixteen percent barrel rate. I'm fine, like yeah, yeah, Like
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: that's fine with me.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: That's what I call opportunity.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so were you guys in love with him
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: when he was a Twins prospect or he got DFA
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: by the Royals.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: I loved him that with the first chance he got
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: with the athletics, when you could see that he had
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: all the power in the world, he just had to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: really be a little more selective, Like that's all it
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: was that he had to do. And you could see
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: it coming. You could see it coming.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: I think I think there's something about Oakland and or Sorry,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: the athletics and the atmosphere that the players have. You know,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: baseball's ninety percent physical and then half mental, and so
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: you know, I think about it and we'll talk about it.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe with Seattle that there's it's hard to go to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: Seattle and hit. You try to do more than you can.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: I think open with the athletics, you just get to
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: be whoever you want to be. And Brent Rooker is
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: that Midwest you know, he's just a good dude. And
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: I think that they really I don't know if he
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: could have been untapped like he was anywhere else. And
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: I think that him playing for the Athletics in this
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: season of his life is really going to set him
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: up for like the next five ten years. I think
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: he's just going to be a phenomenal power hitter year
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: after year. That kid is country strong.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It also it reminds me a little bit of
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: like Nelson Cruz back in the day, where you're just
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: like always waiting for it to fall apart, but like
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: he just keeps pumping out forty homers a year. That
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I love Brent Worker. Okay, let's get into some selves, Sam,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: who is yourself? From the A's.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: You know I'm selling zat Gelloff. I think that he
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: showed out a little bit last year. I think he
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: had a pretty good season, but I don't trust his
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: plate discipline as much. I'm really worried that he's not
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: going to keep his strikeout rate south of thirty. He
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: might not even be south of thirty three. So I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: think once he gets those strikeouts, there are other players
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: that potentially could take his spot. I could see them
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: having Louise I don't know why everybody gives Louis Serius
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: a chance, but I could see him stealing some at bats.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: I just don't see I don't see Geloff paying off.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: As as where he's at, I'm going to stay away
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: from him now. If he was a top three hundred pick,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: if he was one hundred spots later, I probably would
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: be just fine with that.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that, Like it's the the bottom here
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: in terms of like the batting average. This is a
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: guy who like could hit one. A man like that
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: could disappear real quick. Jemmy, who's your buy from the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: athletics or sell yourself from the athletics.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Again, well you want to talk about it, I'm stealing
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: from the playbook and I'm going all the pictures, like
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I'm selling the whole pitching staff.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: But even Jeff springs his mind, so you can throw
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: him in that.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Just let's just sell them all, Like Mason Miller is talented,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: but from a perspective of drafting the closure that early,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: like in britt Worker territory, Like if we're talking injury risk,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: like Mason Miller, like fantastic, that are my last two
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: days at my last whole season. I don't. I just
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: don't know. And so there's there's lots safer options, and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I look through the rest of that, that bullpen and rotation,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I want no part of Luce Severino,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I want no part of Jeffers things, jose Leclair like
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: nothing is just shouting out and the to a ballpark
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: that's not the Athletics Ballpark in Oakland, Like it's just
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: not gonna play well. So I'm selling the entire pitching staff. Osvaldoo,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: come on, give me some JTGINI.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Jeff three Springs has a pick of
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: two point fifty seven. I can't believe that, right, Like
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: this dude has thrown forty nine total innings over the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: past two years. Before that was like perpetually injured. Like
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: I just don't see it, especially in draft champions formats
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: where people are like counting on these players to you
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: can't like drop Jeff Springs when he blows out his
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: elbow again that that's crazy. And so yeah, that's why
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: I'm in. I will say the one picture maybe here
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: that I'm considering just because it's such a late dart throw.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: I loved what Mitch Spence showed last year. Great ground
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: ball stuff, great cutter. I think he can take a
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: step forward, but more of like a spot starter sky
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: on your roster sort of dart throw that not anything
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: significant there. Okay, we are onto some prospect picks to click,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: which this is a pretty intriguing system in terms of like,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: You've got lots of things going on in terms of
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: depth and draft picks, new draft picks, as well as
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: the whole Sacramento factor of it all. So, Sam, who
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: are you going with on your pick to click in Sacramento?
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: The player that I've been targeting in all of my
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Dynasty first round draft picks Net Kurtz. I just I
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: love him. He is such a beast. I see him,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: you know, coming up and being their first basement for
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: a long time. You know, he had a rougher second
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: season last season in college, but that's I believe because
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: the team around him wasn't as good as either a
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: sophomore's junior year. I forget how he was when or
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: what year he was when he came into the pro
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: or got drafted last year. But he's got phenomenal plate skills.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: He just he'll he'll take pitches, he'll walk, he's not
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: going to force the issues, and when he hits the ball,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: it goes a country mile. So I expect him to
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: be playing in Oakland well before the All Star break.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: You know, I could see him making the club or
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: only spending a couple months down. So the As save
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: you know, the time for him. They get an extra
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: service here. But he's going to be up and he's
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: going to mash get him everywhere you can. I love him,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: I love him.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I think this is a great pick. I think he
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: looked great in first out in the Arizona Fall League too,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: that like, this is one of the guys where once
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: you saw him in person, it really impressed me. Played
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: one game in the outfield in the Arizona Fall League
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: that there is maybe a pathway for that in Oakland
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: if they get desperate. But that would be.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Really awesome if he got outfield eligibility.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Brow. What's your take on Kurtz. I don't know if
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: we've really talked about him too much in this pod.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The the only issue with Kurtz is I feel
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: like the it's like the players before you type of
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: thing where it feels like we've talked about these like
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I feel like Andrew Vaughn vibes a two
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: degree of like this really great you know college hitter
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: that has high average, big power should be the middle
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: lineup bat like. It just I feel like I've played
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: this before. It's nothing against Kurts, because I think Kurtz
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: looks fantastic, but I said the same thing about some
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: other guys, and I feel like I've been.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Burned on it.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: So that's the only hesitation I have with Kurtz. I
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: feel like that profile has had some of those issues before,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: but I shouldn't hold that against him. That's just in
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: the back of my mind. But everything else, like everything
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: about him looks great. There's just this like that profile
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: just doesn't seem to develop as well as I would
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: have liked on other teams. Nothing. The Oakland actually has
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: done a lot better developing prospects. I think then people
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: give them credit for like that's that's kind of been
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: become the bread and butter. They're not a Cleveland, not
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: a Tampa, They're not some of those other other organizations.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm I'm I'm perfectly fine with that with
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: that call.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think if you saw Kurts in person,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: you would not be comparing him to Andrew von He's
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: like six inches taller.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I'm looking up at all, I'm looking up at all
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: I hear you, but here, who's your pick to click
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: for the athletics.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, A guy I absolutely love in this system is
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Colby Thomas. Uh. Colby Thomas is definitely a guy that
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's talking about. And if he brings
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: camp and steals Seth Brown's job, I have no shocks
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: of it. I think he absolutely can do that, and
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: he if, if he has the opportunity, he could go
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: twenty five to fifteen and hit two sixty two seventy
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: without a doubt. Last year across two levels the miners,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: he had thirty one homers, fifteen steals, hit two seventy seven,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: and he did so with an under twenty five percent
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: k rate. He was just rock solid. And he has speed,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: he has athleticism, He can play all over the outfield
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: like he has nothing else to prove. That was age
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: twenty three in Triple A. Now he's oer for eight
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: in spring training this year, so that's not really helping him.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: But hopefully, you know, he can get off to night
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: here and show some things. But I think he's absolutely
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: a guy that you know he's gonna get called up
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna start making some noise and people are
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: gonna be gonna be surprised. So I like Colby Thomas
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: a heck of a lot. He's gonna be a lot
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: of my teams.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: He was my number two. I love that pick.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I think this is a great pick.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great power, speed, comba, Okay, my pick.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: It actually is a pitcher, which I mean, maybe not
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: great with the whole sacrament of it all, but this
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: guy's got really great strikeout stuff. It's Mason Barnett who
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: came over from Kansas City at the deadline last year
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: with the in the Lucas Ersig deal, and I was
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: really interested in when he was coming through the Kansas
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: City system because it pops right away when you go
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: to his Fangrass page, You're like, wait a second. This
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: dude's never had a below ten K nine and any
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: stop and been very consistent, pretty solid, pre solid ground
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: ball rate, really cheap in terms of drafts for redraft
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: leagues and in dynasty keeper leagues. He is twenty four,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't turn twenty five till the end of the year,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: so I think this is the year that Barnett really
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: hits the major leagues, finally shows what he can do.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: He's got a forty five future grade value on him
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: from Eric Longenhagen at Fangrafts, and I think he's just
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: a good, solid pitcher. So it stinks that he's not
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City anymore because that I think would have
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: really pushed him to like a precipice of where like
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: in redraft leagues, i'd be pushing as like maybe my
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: last draft pick, but right now maybe a little bit
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: more of like a watch list in twelve fifteen teamers
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: where you have waiver wires. But certainly keep an eye
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: on him because I think he's the first guy probably
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: up in Sacramento if there's any injuries to that starting rotation.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I actually really like that profile. What's interesting,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: as I was just looking at his line, I was
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: surprised the number of innings he's thrown game And actually,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: if you go look at his game log last year,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: he finished out the season and for guys in the minors,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: like everyone's like, let's get him three or four, maybe
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: five innings. That's how season started. He was He finished
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: the last five games of the season, he went seven innings, seven,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: six and seven. He was going deep into games. He
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: has an arm and across those five he struck out
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: ten four, nine, nine, nine. Yeah. This this with the
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Sacramento rotation bullpen. There's space, there's space.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and the nice thing is that even when
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: he came over to the athletic system, he tightened up
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: the walk rate, increased the strikeout rate, that like it's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: possible they might have unlocked a little something more on
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: him too. Okay, well, let's wrap up the athletics. We're
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: gonna move on to Sam. This is why we called
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: you in here for this podcast, your Seattle Mariners. It's
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: been another i would say, tumultuous offseason. The budget happened, Yeah,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: the budget nothing happened. The budget constricted has constricted this
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: team mightily. And maybe the most interesting thing that happened
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: in the off season is the big Mike Petriello report
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: that came out on the analysis of how poor of
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: a hitter's park t mobile is in terms of like
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: the weather patterns and the batter's eye that isn't straight,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: and the batter's eye is also extremely bright. You know
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: at certain times of the day that if anything really
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: taught me that I'm fading every Mariner's bat as hard
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: as I can throughout draft season and in keeper leagues
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: and everything like that. But I think there's still lots
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: of great players here, lots of intriguing kind of opportunities
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: up and down the roster, lots of great prospects coming through.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: So what do you think.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Your Mariners are gonna do here? Kind of rounding into
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: I think they are going to underwhelm us as usual.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a lot of chaos ball
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: that happens. I think that they're gonna if they come
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: out hot, they're going to get cold. If they come
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: out cold, they're going to get hot. They're going to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: make it interesting. I don't know, it's it's it's tough
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: as a fan of a team that takes such a
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: corporate approach to winning that they just want to win
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: fifty four percent of their games. You know, Forbes has
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: had them as one of the most profitable teams, if
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: not the most profitable team in baseball the last four years,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: and so you know, I keep waiting to see that profit,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: that money translate to on the field spending. You know,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: they had Alex Bregman on the free agency market, and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: we had a need for corner infielder. I don't know
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: why they didn't go out and get them. We've seen
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: how good that guy is. They could mess with the
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: batter side. There's a lot of things that could happen.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: But I think the thing that you have to and
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: we were talking, I was talking about it a little
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: bit earlier. I think the thing that you have to
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: accept is that you are going to be ninety percent
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: of what you could be anywhere else offensively. You just
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: have to be okay with that mentally that it's going
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: to be just a little little bit harder to hit there.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: And it was refreshing to watch Victor Roebliss come into
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: the Mariners last year from the Nationals with no expectations
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: and just really live up to that height. You know
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: that at one point he was a higher regarded prospect
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: than Juan Soto in that organization. That Victor Roebliss has
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: got shine for days, but just has done shit with it,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: pardon my language, you know. And so I'm really looking
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: forward to seeing that outfield become one of the outfields
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: that they talk about in baseball with Randy and with Julio.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: But I see Victor Robliss being a twenty twenty guy,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: hit for a good average, have good counting stats, and
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: really just bring a lot of fun to that lineup.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: I think that he easily what's his average draft pick? Sorry,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: I have it on a different page on the one
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: that I saw the link that you set in the
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: run through. He's a top two hundred pick. I think
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: he's top one, fifty one, twenty five at the end
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: of this season. And I think the Mariners giving him
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: a couple I think they signed him for a couple
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: of years or gave him a small contract. He's not
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: an arbitration. They they've got him. I think he's going
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: to relax and settle in and do some really fun things,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: and especially getting to play with Julio Rodriguez and with
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: Randy a Rose Arena like he He's now part of
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: a tier of outfielders that you know, very few players
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: get into. I mean, Randy's a perpetual twenty twenty player,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: and Julio is a top ten player overall in the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: game unless he hits again like he did last year.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: I just really am excited about him, and I'm a
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: huge you know, there's a other couple of other bats
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: I really like, but I'm really targeting Victor Roblis.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: I like this pick that, like, especially where he's going.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: It's an intriguing steals play. And you just look at
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: the stats that he put up with Seattle in You're
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: just like, where did this come from? I think it's
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: a pretty classic change of scenario case, honestly, a little
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: bit like Brent Rooker, where allowed himself to reset, allowed
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: himself to referral and find that level.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Of talent brew.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think we've actually talked too much Victor Roeblacee
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: here on this pod, but where like does he crack
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: your top one hundred hitters or is he kind of
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: on that next like tier or what do you think
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: about him?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Right right now I probably have him on that next tier.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: But it's just it's really hard to know the truth
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: with Victor Roblists. I think that's that's where I'm struggling.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Is you know he last year with Washington it was
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: fourteen games, he had a baby of one seventy six
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: with Seattle as three eighty eight. They're both wrong, Look
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: what's it gonna be? And so I what I'm I'm
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: like hedging against is like, is he gonna hit two
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: fifty and steal twenty five bases and hit two homers,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: Or is he going to use that speed, get comfortable,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: have a babeup of three fifty, three sixty and hit
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: two eighty, run into a few extra homers and steal
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: forty bases or fifty. Like I feel like those are
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: both plausible outcomes, and so he's one of those interesting guys.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: I think, as you're getting laid in the draft, if
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: you missed that speed that first and second round, that
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: he's a good gamble to take there. But I think
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: if you have to keep those expectations in check, because
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: he does have a variation outcomes, and since he doesn't
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: have that much power, he isn't going he has if
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: he doesn't do what we want him to do, the
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: downside's pretty pretty low. But for the price, it's not
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: a it's not a big risk, and so I'm intrigued.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: I just want to see that comfort, Like does he
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: feel like he's at home? He never felt that way
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: in in Washington And if he and I think you
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: make a great point. If he feels at home and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: that k rate stays within within reason and he's able
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: to use his speed, man he could be he could
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: be really really fun.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, oh sorry. I think what you're also saying
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: it makes him intriguing dynasty keeper by because like you
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: have to think that whoever has him in your league
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: is grappling with this as well. That like it creates
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of like just opportunity to find a price
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: that works that because if this clicks for another half season,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, he interests I think some pretty upper echelons
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: in terms of dynasty keeper valuations because he's only I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: mean guess he turns twenty eight in May, but I
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: mean still kind of in the prime of his career.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: If you look at a guy who can put up
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: fifteen forty, that's a that's an intriguing fantasy player.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I you know, to speak to what Jeremy
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: was saying is that it was it was how he
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: did it consistently when he came with the Mariners. It
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: wasn't this huge spike and then this huge downturn, and
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: it wasn't tumultuous. I mean, there was obviously ebbs and
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: flows with his performance, but he really just was himself
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: the entire time that you were watching him play in
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: a Mariner's uniform and so I'm I'm looking forward to
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: consistency this next year. You're You're absolutely right. You know,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: the proof is obviously going to be in the putting,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: what happens when he gets in the batter of spots,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: what happens when the games are played. But I think
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: I saw enough of him showing that he understood what
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: he needed to do at the second half of last
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: year that I have a lot of confidence for twenty five.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: I'll take your eye test over mine any day, because
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: my Victor Roblis watching was very limited last year.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Oh I watched a ton of them, and I've made
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: the moves in every dynasty and keeper league I could
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: to get him at the end of last year.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: It was great, very smart.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: All right, brew, who's your buy on the Mariners?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: I feel so wrong with the spine. I'm just going
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: to own that up front because it's like it's almost
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: like a cop out, And I'm really take a guy
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: that I'm not even certain how much he's going to
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: go to play this year, but he fits a incredibly
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: important niche in your fantasy bullpen. Matt Brash, and I'm
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: going bat Brash because he is an absolute beast. Some
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: of the best stuff. When healthy, he is used in
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: that kind of fireman role that gets you just the
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: sneaky amount of wins that you can't really deal with
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: anywhere else. The only thing holding him back is when's
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: he gonna be back and is he gonna be healthy?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: And he's been throwing like it's not like he's not.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: It's not we don't know if his arms on or not,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: like it's on, he's throwing. The velocity of seam seems
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: to be there at the beginning of spring training. Part
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: of it's also I saw like no other buys in
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: the whole Mariner system here. I wasn't too excited about
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: what I saw elsewhere, But I think Brash is just
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: this kind of like you're paying nothing for him. You
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: almost wait till the draft's over. You just kind of
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: stash him, and late in the season you just plug
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: him in when you need some k's sneaky wins and
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: absolutely thrilled and undress Munaios like I think he's nasty.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: I just I he's not been the epitome of health,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: and so him making it through a season like I'll
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: give it a seventy five percent chance, which is what
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: was a see, but I wouldn't be shocked if late
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: in the season Brash comes in sneaking state saves or
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: if there's an injury, He's he's the guy. So I
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: like Matt Brash. Then I also denigrated the rest of
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: the Seattle teams, so I apologize.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no apology is going to save you for that.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: I totally see Matt Brash as like that Griffin Jacks player,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: where you just have him on a roster because he's
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: gonna get a couple of wins, he's gonna get a
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: half dozen saves, He's going to strike out everybody. The
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: you guys remember the beginning of twenty four when he
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: struck out Jose Ramirez and made him fall on his
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: ass like his He is nasty. He just throws the
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: most disgusting things. And so I'm with you. I want
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: to make a point like you you were you were
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: talking about the Barriner's line up and all that. So
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: we made a point about the La Angels that they
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: had no player under the top one hundred ADP and
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: the Mariners have seven.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my point being I don't like them at that ADP.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: I like that, So I think there's a lot of
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: they have way better players, way a better team. But
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: I look at him like Cayle Rally at seventy six.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: I just can't quite get there. That's feel like, oh
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: my god, there, what other kid My batting average is
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: that bad at that point in a rotal league.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: First of all, it's a catcher. Pair him up with
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: some other catcher, You're like, or get Louis Arias, because
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: what other catcher is going to guarantee you thirty home
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: runs and one hundred and sixty counting stats? And is
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: that guy plays through ridiculous injuries like you were talking
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: about somebody earlier, was Logan Ohak, That he gets nicked
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: up and banged up and he doesn't play like cal
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: Rawley is just fucking tough as nails, Like that dude
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: is going to catch one hundred and thirty games, lock
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: it in. So yeah, you may not like the two
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty five batting average. I'm taking the third
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: prety home runs, one hundred and sixty counting stats, and
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: I'm going to make sure I get a high batting
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: average player somewhere else because he is locking in my catchers.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: Cal rolly Slander.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: I can't stand he's not even my cell. I know
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get ostracized for my cell and I'm ready
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: for it.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, I love it. I love it.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, my buye here is uh. It's Bryce Miller. I've
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: loved Bryce Miller forever. I love watching him. It's electric stuff.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: And the second half was ace level tier stuff. Last
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: year one eighty nine eight e RA over seventy one
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: and a third innings in the second half came with
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: a k s BB that finally eclips the twenty percent mark.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: It was twenty one percent in the second half. The
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: walk crate minuscule down to like two and really the
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: homers he cut shaved an entire like half homer per
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: a game off in the second half too. The stuff
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: plus all backs it up every five pitches over one hundred.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: The rumors out of spring or that he might even
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: be adding like another pitcher too, that this is kind
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: of turning into like a Zach Grankie sour situation with
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller, and I especially love that like the rotation
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: there between Gilbert and Kirby and Castillo around him. These
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: guys are just like spitball and pitching all day long
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: off of each other. That it's just like kind of
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: like snowballs on top of it. Adding the ballpark that
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: we talked about, he's untouchable at home. Maybe the ground
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: ball rate isn't where like I like it, but he
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: pitches up in the zone and induces us a ton
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: of pop ups, great whip asset. I think, honestly, this
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: is my dark horse cy Young candidate for the Ale
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: this year, and he's going right now pick eighty five.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: I'm comfortable taking Bryce Miller's my like one or two
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: off the board because I think this is a guy
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: who it reminds me a little bit of like Zach
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: Gallon a couple of years ago too, where it just
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: finally clicked and turned the corner that we got one
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty innings out of Bryce Miller last year.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: And I don't think we've seen the peak.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: You know, I agree with you, and I want to
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: throw this angle at it too. So you know, there's
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: there's these great pitching staffs in history that had, you know,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: two people that really pushed themselves, you know, to be
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: good about it. There was the the Diamondbacks that had
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: Randy Johnson and Kurt Shilling that were really just pushing
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: each other to be elite. And we see that with
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: Gilbert and Kirby that as soon as you think Gilbert
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: is a better pitcher than Kirby, Kirby starts doing things
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: that you're like, oh my god, look at what he's doing,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: and then it'll go back to Gilbert. I think Miller
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: and Wu are those same those same two they have
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: that they're that bonded pair. As excited as I am
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: about Bryce Miller and I agreed with everything that you said,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: I'm actually more excited to see what Wu is going
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: to bring to this season because last season was his
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: down year. Uh, It's it's a it's a wonderful problem
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: have when when Wu is your your SP five, when
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: when Castillo is literally your SP four, I would I
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: would draft Miller, and they've been doing it this year.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: But I have Miller above Castillo also.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: So I I like Wu's skills better, but I don't
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: like the elbow better. So That's why I'm a Miller guy.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: I know that we've disagreed over the years on Miller.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Did I make it mysell? I told you you guys
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: were gonna hate this one.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: Oh well, then go for it. I got to hear
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: this first before I talk about.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: My cell and in this, like, I don't really disagree
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: with most of what you guys said. The skill set,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: the capability, what he does when when I I'm selling
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: him based on where he's being drafted in the kind
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: of what I'm looking for in my top end starters
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: is I need that maximum K potential. I need them
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: bringing those strikeouts. He's also kind of a guy behind
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: the scenes. I look at that kind of like that
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: stack cast data and I'm like, it's not fully jiving.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: He's got a great pitch mix. He's all of his
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: pitches played way up last year compared to the year before.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: So I'm saying, was that all true or with growth
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: or is that some of that gonna regress. I mean,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: you look at a guy that gets barreled up a
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: lot relative to guys in the league, doesn't keep it
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: on the ground. You know, he's kind of from a
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: ex of velocity perspective, he's bottom fourteen percent of the league. Like,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: there's there's these for me, there's some of these question
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: marks that where he's moving and where he's going. I'm
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: just not sure I have that full trust what I
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: would like a guy at that point, and I look
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: at guys that are going maybe around or two after,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: I have some of the same question marks, but I'm
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: waiting a round or two later, and so I'm willing
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: to pass Bryce Miller, and I'm willing to go after.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: Let's throw a Tanner Bibery to two rounds later. I
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: love Bailey over and so I would take over over
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: Miller all day, every day, Lash Wallenbach, I would take
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: him all day, over over him, Joe Ryan, probably Hunter Brown.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: And so if he's two rounds later, I'm right there.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: I'm looking two rounds later some of the guys going,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: and I'm sitting going, I'm just as happy with those
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: guys as I'm with Bryce Miller. So I'm gonna take
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: those other guys. So that's It's it's more of a
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: game strategy and what else is happening in the draft
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: than anything against Bryce Miller, And that's my struggle with it.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: So what I hear you saying is that at drafting
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: at nine and my TGFBI draft on Monday, I'm gonna
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: literally snake all the Mariners pictures. I'll take Bryce Miller early.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: We'll see how that goes for the season.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I think he's a great pitcher. It's just
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: it's more of a game theory scenario base for me
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: of what else is happening at that point in the draft,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: because I as I look at the pitching market, I
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: am skipping almost everything until probably that the top thirty
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: is about gone and I'm loading up on OBErs, on Biby's,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: on Hunter Browns, on Sunny Gray's. You know that that level,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: I am just a drafting like five of those guys.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: It'll be an auction draft to drive my staff.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question. Since we're talking
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: about that range down there, and I know this isn't
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: Al West, where are you guys at with Spencer Strider
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: this year?
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna no, he was my cell on the Al
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: East for the Braves because I just don't see him
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: coming back quick enough.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: I don't see him the same thing I sold him
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: as well, because I do think that they're gonna make
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: sure that he's healthy. I think he's got a ton
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: of talent. If it's a dynasty league, playing way different.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: But I do think he's one of those guys that
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: could be there day one. He could be their day
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: ninety like that. I just do not know, And I
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: feel like I've played that traps so many times and
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: I'm always I'm always putting it on black and hitting red.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I am.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: I'm intrigued too, because, like I do think that if
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: you were able to run stack cast for when Bryce
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: Smeller turned that corner in the second half, you might
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: have a slightly different answer, because.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: I know that's the one thing I can't stay about
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: stack cast is like I want to slice and dice
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: and see what happened when you see those little tweaks,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: and you just can't quite do it.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: So uh, okay, well who was your cel h here
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: Sam on the Mariners.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: Kills me to say it our captain J. P. Crawford. Yeah,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: he's got great plate discipline, walks, a lot, doesn't strike out,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: a lot doesn't hit the ball, a lot doesn't hit
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: home runs, can't steal bases. I just I can't. He
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: is what you know, Victor Robless. He I want him
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: to be what Victor Robless is, showing that he was
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: this elite prospect that came over from the film, and
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: I keep waiting to see this thing where he becomes
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: a fifteen even fifteen fifteen I'd take because he's gonna
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: hit in the middle, at the top of the lineup.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: He's gonna get good runs, he's gonna he's gonna have
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: decent counting stats. He should hit for a good average,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: and just it doesn't happen. So like, I'm just I'm clean.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: I'm completely avoiding JP Crawford, where last year I was
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: all in on him. I thought that last year was
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: going to be his year to click.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it does feel like we're chasing the ghost
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: of that twenty twenty three season where he put up
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: nineteen bombs and ninety four runs and a two sixty
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: six average that I agree that like.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: Should have been yearly. That should have been yearly, and
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: it's just not.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's good for the clubhouse though.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, and in the fantasy game, that means so much.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: I really like my guys to gel in the fantasy game.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: It's so important to me.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: That's shape of his life when he showed up to camp.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate all the grounders that he's picking up
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: for all these Seattle pictures that we're all drafting.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: So as a player, I love him at short stuff.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: He's not terrible, but there's yeah, uh.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Huh, okay, Well my cell here, it's actually a repeat
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: of the cell that we had last year because the
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: skills keep degrading further and further. It's Louis Castillo, just
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: look at it. From twenty three to twenty four, k
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: rate down, walk rate, he did improve and somehow that
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: that homer rate held even. But the babbep's up because
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: the stuff is down. He's getting hit harder, heah rays up,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: the fips up. It's all. He just trending the wrong
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: direction here for Luis Castillo. That it's just slowly but
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: surely every year, you know, there's more and more wear
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: and tear in that arm. He's over twelve hundred career innings.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: He's just starting to wear out. And I think this
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: is a picture too, where Luis Castillo really relied a
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: lot on the fastball velocity and as that's lost a
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: tick or two, loses the spin rate, it just loses
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: the chance of surprise. And given where he's going right now,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: so he's going like in the top one hundred average
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: pick around ninety five. You just rattled off all those
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: guys that are going in that range there. Brew that
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: like I'd rather have all of them overlease Castillo because
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: I think this is another year where you're just looking
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: at it's all trending the wrong direction until there's some
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: sort of rejuvenation that we see in that fastball philosophy
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: and the stuff. Overall, I think Castillo is going to
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: keep just trending downhill.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I sold him last year as well,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: and to be very frank, I would actually sell him
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: over Miller. I wanted to go to the argument. I
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: want to do a little bold here. I'm still selling Miller.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: That's just but Castillo, I want no part of to
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: your point that the degradation of skill just slowly like
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: he's still a good pitcher, but it's just you can
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: just it's still it's just slowly going the wrong direction.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: I think he's got He is helped by pitching Seattle
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: versus all those years in Cincinnati, so I think that
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: does help. But yeah, I think he he is drafting
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: dropping off and I will definitely take Bryce Miller over Lease.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: Guest you, well, there we go, I got you lock
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: him there. Okay, let's argue let's get into this deep
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: minor league system, because it is there's a lot of
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: players here. I love what's coming through the system in Seattle.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: I think they've stocked it up pretty well with all that. Sam,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Who are you picking?
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: So I put down one name, But after having this conversation,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go a different direction with it, all right,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: I put Logan Evans. He is a pitcher pitched a
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: lot in double A phenomenal ratios. They can't decide whether
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: or not they want him to start or to close.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know what he's gonna do. I
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: saw him as somebody could come up and be you know,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: that Matt Brash kind of arm also, but I don't.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: I just don't see it in a fantasy. Since I
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: think he's more of a real life player that's going
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: to make a difference in that bullpen.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: I'm relative interesting was going to be my pick too.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: So I love Logan Evans that I think Seattle has
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: gotten pretty lucky with the health of their starting rotation
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: here the past couple of years. That, yeah, I mean
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: it's time for somebody like Evans to break through, and
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: they've been shopping loose castio that I think he's the
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: first man up.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I would love to see him pitch, But
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: I see the need for an infielder, and I think
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: that even though Cole Emerson I think has more talent
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: than Cole Young, I see Young being the one that
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: comes up this year, maybe breaks camp with the team
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: and really has an opportunity to not be you know,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: he's young, just don't think, go out think like a
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: goldfish man and just go out and play. And I
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: could see him not knowing that he's just a kid,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: and coming up and hitting high two hundreds, decent power,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: some speed on the bases and just solidifies a place
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: that that lineup in the infield, whether or not he's
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: at second or short, I think that's to be determined.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great swing. I think there's more power in that bat.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: I think I love Cole Young. I mean, I said
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: I was fading mariners like bats, but like Cole Young
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: is one of the ones where it's just such a
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: great played approach you can't you can't have qualms with it, agreed, Jeremy,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: Who's year pick to click here in Seattle?
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that's where we were going. We said infielders,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: because I'm gonna go with Ryan Bliss. I think you know,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: Bliss is a is a guy that you know, if
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: I run in the mirrors, he's a guy that's breaking
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: camp and he's he's the kind of a fantasy player
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: that we dream of. He's the kind of guy you
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: look at and be like, man, he can steal fifty bases.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: He you know, he could easily run into fifteen or
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: twenty homers. He's gonna he could maybe keep that average
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: respectable and he can play up the middle and have
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: multipositional eligibility, Like you can easily see that. Is that
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: what's gonna happen? Probably not, but if you I'll take
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: the uh, Sam, I think he said ninety percent of
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: what you're hoping for there, I'll take ninety. I'll probably
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: take eighty of that. And I think he's that kind
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: of guy that can come up and just be sneaky,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: sneaky value. And I mean you've got Dylan Moore staying
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: in the way. I don't think that that's too much
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: JP Crawford. Uh, it's gonna be harder to unsee Crawford
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: just that the captain estes of that, But I think
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: the talent's there. He's a good fielder too, Like he's
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: really solid all around, and he's looked better and better,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: and like, I love these guys that show plate patients.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: He walked fourteen percent of the time last year, walk
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: created fourteen percent, kreative twenty two percent. Like he is
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: an on base machine and he knows how to use it.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: He could he could be a better version of Dylan
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: Moore than Dylan Moore is.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: Love I love that that call out for that because
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: that's exactly the way that he's gonna get into that lineup.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: And I also really like Iran Bliss. He's really underrated
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: in that system.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, And I think honestly, like if you're
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: in a best ball or draft and hold situation, Ryan
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: Bliss is a must because like if he does breakout
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: and he provides that's that speed lookout, like that's a
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: league winner.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's move on back down to Texas, the
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: lone star state. We've got the Rangers as the last
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: team of all of our previews. This is the last one,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: so Sam, you kind of rounded all out for the
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Ale West here, but also this was the last one
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: of all of our previews in totals, So Texas Rangers,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: coming off of a middling season, backing up from their
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three World Series victory in twenty twenty four
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: only one seventy eight games, but also just kind of
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: looked tired and more and out from that World Series
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: run in twenty twenty three. Obviously, we had Jacob d
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: grond get back on the mound. We had some talented
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: rookies breakthrough for the Rangers last year in terms of
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: white line, and this team looks retooled and ready to
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: go into twenty twenty five. Bullpen might be a little
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: bit of work in process, work in progress as they're
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: getting into the to it, but otherwise it's tough to
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: find too many flaws in terms of the rotation and
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: the lineup in Texas. But with all that considered, Sam,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: who is your buy down for the Rangers.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: At a lease at a least at a last Garcia Man,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: I think he had more injuries last year than he
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: talked about. He seems to be one of those tough players.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't complain about things, and he had a
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: World Series hangover in twenty four or whatever you want
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: to call it. He had a pretty rough season last year,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: and I expect him to come back and have a
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: couple more seasons starting next year with high counting stats.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to hit twenty five thirty bombs,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: He's going to steal a few bases, and I think
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: he's really going to be prime to have a much
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: better season this year than last year. It looks like
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: his average draft position was he's going under one fifty.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: I expect him to return top one hundred value this
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: year again. I expect him to become more of a
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: household name again than it has been.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it was intriguing how quickly it backed
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: up on him last year. But a lot of it
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: points to injury. And I look at the defensive numbers.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: I've gotten a couple of shares of out a least
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: here in draft season for all these reasons. Also sounds
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: like he's been coming into spring with a different played approach,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: which is great that you like to hear. But for
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: somebody to go from a plus defender to like the
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: worst defender in the league, like it something screams injury
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: to me there. But Jeremy, this is kind of squarely
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: in your top one hundred hitter profile. Stuff Like, what
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: do you you see for Garcia going into twenty twenty.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: Five yeah, I I haven't ranked him yet because I've
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: only got through the top twenty in the article I
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: have released since I'm not I'm not there, but like
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: he's probably squarely in the middle or probably through you know,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: third twenty five there of the top one hundred hitters.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: For me, like he averages the question like is what
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: what's he gonna do there? But he is a beast.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: He can he can rake with the best of them.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: He's he's got sneaky speed, and he's in a really
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: good lineup and so like all those things kind of play.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: He's got a decent floor, and I don't I don't
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: think he's done, Like I think he had a down
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: year and so I I think he's great value where
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: he's going right now. So he's easily in my top
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: one hundred. He will be there, uh, no doubt about it.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: So then, yeah, it sounds like he's a buy at
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: ADP for you too, yep, but maybe not your bye?
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: Who is your bye?
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: My bye? Is I got? What where is he going?
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: In?
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: My guy? Is a guy going around pick two hundred,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: and that is Josh Young. I am absolutely a Josh
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: Young believer. Let's throw away twenty twenty four. It doesn't
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: make sense. He hurt his wrists. It it doesn't count.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna I'm gonna do my comp Brent Rooker.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: If you look at what he did in twenty twenty three,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: go compare his stat cast for twenty twenty three to
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: Brent Rookers. They are almost identical. Wow, it is not
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: not that far off. The only difference is there's a
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: little bit more patience in Rookers approach. But as far
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: as like contact rates, hard hit rates, barrel rates, just
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: that overall approach, both of them generally spray hitters. You know,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: Young's playing in the better ballpark, better lineup. I mean,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: he's going at ADP two hundred. Like, this is a
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: guy that I would take all day, early early, maybe
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: up to pick like one twenty one, twenty five somewhere
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: in there. Like, I absolutely I'm not gonna take him there.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: I don't need to, but I think he's absolutely gonna
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: break out. If you look at what he did in
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: twenty three, one hundred and twenty two games, uh, twenty
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: three bombs hit two sixty six, seventy five runs, seventy
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: RBIs just extrapolate like the one to fifty games. That's
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety runs and RBIs combined hitting almost
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: thirty homers. Like, why is this guy going so late?
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: I absolutely love him. He's gonna break out this year
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: and I have a zero share so far.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you why he's going so like
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: because he's actually myself, because it's it's the injury history here.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: I do not like it.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: One year I did not like.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: I do not like risk hitting injuries like it is.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: Tommy Van disagrees, Sorry to bring our Cardinals get back.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: They scare the be Jesus out of me, honestly.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: It's also.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: This is a weird just like gut feeling. But his
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: brother Jase Young also has been dealing with kind of
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: soft tissue injuries that Young has also dealt with through
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: his career. I don't know if that like pretends well
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: that it just kind of the way that youngest kind
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: of come through this system. And he's older than you
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: would think he is in terms of where he's been
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: because like he has battled so many injuries and it
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: just hasn't clicked for a whole volume of seasons. So
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: I think there is a good player in there. I
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: just don't know if his body will let him achieve it.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: And so that's why I'm not in on Young. I'm
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: not interested in him, even with how kind of shallow
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: corner and third base is, is just because I don't
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: want to then have to go chase a new third
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: basement on the waiver wire. That like it's it's if
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: he does go down with another injury or if that
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: wrist isn't kind of fully healed up the way that
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: we wanted it to be. There's nobody on that's going
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: to be out there at third base, and so I
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: need something that's a little more steady. He was actually myself, I.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: Like, I like him at ADP. I don't think i'd
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: reach for him, but for everything that Jeremy said, like,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: I'm you're not going to find top top four round
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: talent that late in the draft of third base that easily.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: Like I think he I think if he is healthy.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: If if there isn't, and we'll see, right like if
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: he continues to have soft tissue injuries, like your point
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: becomes even more valid. But he has the season that
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: Jeremy's talking about, and I think we're talking about him,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: you know, top fifty pick next year.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's fair. So yeah, we'll see that.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: I think he'll be fascinating because I can totally be
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: wrong in this and I will change because I love
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: the profile in terms of the approach and stuff.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: I just injury histories. Bite me, I hate him? No
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: fair enough, my bye. Here.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: It's somebody that we've discussed quite a bit on this podcast,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: because I know you love him too. I mean, it's
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Nathan Aovaldi. He's actually going like right next to Josh
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Young in Draft Champions data right now around pick two hundred,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of crazy that he's down there with
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: some of these kind of that's when you do start
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: getting pictures with a lot more Wartz, you know, Louis
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: Heel and his walk rate. Nick Pivetta being Nick Pivetta,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: Mackenzie Gore like, is it going to stick from the
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: second half? Spencer Raghetti like, can he continue finding the
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: strike zone? I don't really have. When you look at
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: Iovaldi's overall profile right now, maybe the one like thing
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: that I think is knocking him down is people see
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: that he's thirty five years old and are like, he's
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: too old to do this. But he's been putting up
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: solid years now in terms of being healthy and staying
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: out there on the mound. The strikeout rate certainly isn't
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: like the most fantastic in the world. But if you
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: can get another one hundred and fifty hundred and seventy
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: innings out of him at the eight play us K nine,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be great value for where he's going right now.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: Should have an era that is sub four plays on
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: a great team for the wins. I just love old
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: farts like this when they're kind of going in this
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: range and can continue pumping out value for you.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: This is the boring name that helps you win exactly.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: This is this is the player that should probably be
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: around pick one, seventy five, one sixty and really just
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: people don't want to take him because just like you said,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: he's thirty five. He pitches for the Rangers. Who wants
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: to take a Rangers picture? You know? So I I
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: like that pick a lot.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: We love him on this podcast because he is that.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: He's he's a he's a ninth starter and a sixth
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: starter's body, whatever you want to call it. Like, he's
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: the kind of guy that you just set it and
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: forget it and you're really happy with the season because
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: he didn't torpedo you like him or Spencer Arraghetti, which
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: one do I believe is going to give at the
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: end of this. I'm not gonna want to choke, right.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: I love Spaghetti over there, but it is definitely Evaldi
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: for me there.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's a great point that it is like
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: very like he doesn't blow up on you. And that's
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: the way that some of those other pictures where you know,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: you could see easily like one of those one inning,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: six earned run starts, Aovaldi is just not quite that. Okay,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: let's get in Well, we got myself for young Sam.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: Who's yourself for the Rangers?
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 3: My cell is Marcus Simeon. You know, he has logged
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: a ton of plate appearances the last six seven years,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: going back to his time with that the Athletics, and
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: I think last year we saw some wearing tear on him,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: and I don't think that it's the kind of wearing
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: tear like I believe that Adele's had where he's going
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: to bounce back. He's still got time. I think that
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: we're starting to see some skills deteriorate, and I expect
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: the Rangers to put him out out there and get
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: you know, another six hundred and seventy seven hundred plate appearances.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's going to get the opportunity,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: but I don't know what he's going to do with it.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: I'm getting some real Bobachette vibes as far as his
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: performance that it's you know, a different situation, different team,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: different age, but you know that same thing of this
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: this this was better and now it's not. I just
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: don't I don't see him performing at the at the
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: draft put price cities at. Also, second base has become
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: surprisingly keep this year for parties and the people that
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: we want to roster, and so I'm not going to
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: reach for him. I'm not gonna go for him. I'm
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: not going to go for Altov. There's a series of old,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: steady and boring that I think I'm going to pass
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: at second base.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: I think you look at this point of the draft
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: like there is a glut of guys here that you're
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: sitting here going like Willia Damas, Marcus Simeon, Christian Walker,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: Mark Viento's, Brian Reynolds, like they're all just like I
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: don't know. And then that's right where Bryce Miller Spencer,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: swallenback Bailey over like are going like it is so
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: obvious that this part of the draft you need to
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: be zigging rather than zagging from a pitching versus hitting perspective.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: So I still like Simeon, but I think it's more
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: of like like him as a guy as an overall player.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: But you're right like it it feels like there's more
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: risk and you're not getting quite the discouy you should here.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: I still might. You know, he's one of those guys
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: that he slips a few rounds, like his his draft range,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: leasing the data I'm looking at this high have picked
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: forty five low as one thirty three. Yeah, I'm not
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: taking him at forty five. I might not take him
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: at ninety, but it's one twenty sure, Like it's it's
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: definitely he's a kind of polarizing guy, I think in
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: drafts at this point in the season. Yeah, same, This.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: Strikes me as a guy that I don't end up
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: with him in snake drafts, but I end up with
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: him in auction drafts because like he is steady from
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: the runs and RBI. But like when you're in a
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: snake draft, especially when we're like given the strategies. I
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: think all of us kind of follow similar strategies at
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: this point. I'm throwing something that I can try to
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: get a little more upside than Simeon. So I think
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: this is a great pick.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 3: Brew.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: Who's your cell in the Rangers?
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna have fun with this one, because
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: why not. We're at the end, last team, and I'm
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: going to put you both to the test with little
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: quiz here. I'm gonna give you the stat line. I
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: want you to predict the ADP or what ADP you
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: think the stat line deserves, Okay, and I'll tell you
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: what it actually is. One hundred eight games, eight homers,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: twelve steals to forty one average. As for anything else
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: you want, but those are just kind of your baseline numbers.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred eight games, eight homers, twelve steals, two forty
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: one average. Guys gonna get full time playing, So you
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: can extrapolate if you want. What kind of ADP? Does
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  Speaker 2: that feel like?
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  Speaker 3: And sounds like somebody I'm not drafting, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna I was gonna say like three hundred, like
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty late.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that's White Langford through August last year. No, you
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: didn't do that to us, Yes, I did. Thirty eightp
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: lengthord was not worth anything through August last year, he
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: had a fantastic what happened?
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, give us that stat like.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: What happened after that? Yeah, that's that's.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: Fair arbitrary date that we pick end of anth that's
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: just the end of the month.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: Three hundred eight homers and seven steals in September October,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: So he rounded it out. I'll give you that. But
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: my point being, he went the vast majority of the
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: season under under before me. I know there was recovering
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: from injury. I know he's learning the league things like that,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: But for a guy at eighty p thirty eight, that
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: that to me is enough of like a Do I
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: want to put my faith in that one month he
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: figured it out and he can deliver across the whole season,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: Or do I want to take Matt Olsen. Do I
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: want to take a Corey Seager? Do I want to
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: you know, take somebody like that. Honestly, there's a lot
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: of guys in this range I'm not too excited for.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: But he's right there with me. Nam a shadow Raffie
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: Devers like it's there's other guys that I'm sitting here going, man,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: that was a long part of the season that if
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: he just got hurt or they kind of benched him
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: or just said we're not gonna do it, we would
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: be talking about a guy with a three hundred ADP.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: And so I'm putting cold water. I do think Langford's
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: mortalented the what I'm painting him to be. But if
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: I said why at Langford is my cell, you guys
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: would have jumped down my throat to start. I at
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: least wanted to pause before the jump and tell you
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not drafting Langford. If he drops ten twenty spots, sure,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: I'm all a game for it, but it's there's a
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: little bit for me. I want to see it more
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: than a month.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I totally agree with that, because if I'm
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: reaching for a young outfielder, I'm taking Churio, I'm taking Wood,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: I'm taking Jackson Merrill, I'm taking one of those three players.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not reaching for why at Langford.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with all those All of those guys
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: are going to be cheaper, you know, And you could
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: you could have just taken I said, you could have
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: grabbed Corbyn Burns at the same point and had your
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: ace and then taken Churio, and I think you end
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: up actually maybe happier with Churio.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I mean, oh absolutely.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: There was a hamstring injury last year that blew him
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: out for a month, which I think was a factor,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: but I mean.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: It was I know, I'm I'm I'm I'm owning that. Yeah,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: I'm well, twisting numbers, playing with stats, I know what
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: I'm doing. But I think that's also.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: A good reminder. I mean, he he just tweaked his
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: oblique yesterday, So this is something to watch with Langford
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: that it's two soft tissue injuries. That like that is
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: something to con or that you know, if this oblique
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: injury turns into something bigger, I think you might be
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: nation here on why at Langford that like it could
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: be a guy who just like is too good for
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: his body, the way like Tristan Cassas or Mike Trout
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: might be where supreme tools, great savant page, but he's
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: got to learn to stay healthy.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: Now do you want Brent Rooker sixty one or why
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: were Langford at thirty eight? Yeah? All right, I've worked
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: Brett Rooker into all teams since the A. So I
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: will stop, that's great. I like it.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think you're gonna stop, but that's okay
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: with me.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not like, just go back to like the pod.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: It's a probably a good thing. Cooley doesn't like tag
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: all the players we talked about, because we literally do.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: We don't go look at the raspball page for Brent Rooker.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: Luckily the history doesn't go so far back. But I'm
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: pretty sure I've abused it.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've been abusing Cooper Bowman and Michael
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: McGreevy as well. That's uh, it's all us. Okay, let's
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: get into those picks to click for the Rangers. Who
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: are you going with Sam? To click on the Rangers?
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: Well, they had a prospect Rosario, who's going to have
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: TJ it sounds like, and I was really interested in him.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: He looked like a fun picture that might have come up.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: But they have another picture who had a really good
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 3: end of last season, and I think is going to
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 3: be primed to have a decent year this year, and
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 3: that's Kumar Rocker. His k rates are just through the
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 3: ceiling and if he's able to stay healthy, and harness,
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 3: any amount of control. You know, you're looking at somebody
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 3: who's probably going to be throwing, you know, one hundred
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: and twenty twoe hundred and fifty innings, striking out one
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty to one hundred and eighty batters. I mean,
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 3: you know, what is his average pick he's going on
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 3: the sheet, I'm looking at around three h five. Like,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 3: I'll take that upside in the twentieth round. I'm excited
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 3: about that. So I'm looking forward to Kumar this year,
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 3: and you know he's It was between him and Lighter
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 3: the Vandy boys that both ended up at Texas. I
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: really think that Kumar Rocker, given how he came into
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 3: the majors, the injury concerns, and what he's shown about
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 3: being able to stay healthy, I think he's got a
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: chip on his shoulder and I'm really excited to see
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 3: how that plays out in full season.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this pic. I think he's great.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 2: I love this pick because he's also my prospect. Click
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: takes to click. I think, you know, you could argue
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: he has probably one of the best sliders in the
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: league already. I do question if he quite knows where
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: it's going at all times, but he has to, he
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: doesn't have to. And he's also been a guy that
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: he's kind of struggled at each layer level he's gotten
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: to for like a month or so, and then he
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: kind of figures out and then he lights out, like
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: he just a little adjustment period. And I think that's
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: he got that flavor last year and he was dominant
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: at times, he was questionable at times like he was
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: trying to figure it out. So necessarily have a spot
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: right now, but I think getting that spot, he's gonna
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: be really, really dangerous. So I love Kumar Rocker. I
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: think he's he's gonna be fun to watch.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, I'm going a little deeper here
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: with this pick, and it was I mean, he was
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: our first rounder from last year. But is Malcolm Moore
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: catcher out of Stanford. I just love this profile. It's
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: a bat first catcher for the Rangers, and you can
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: kind of see where they're starting to give up a
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: little bit on jonah Heim. Higashioka is on a two
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: year deal, and I would just encourage you to go
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: watch like some film on Malcolmore and you can just
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: see it is a very it's a great swing, and
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a fantastic left handed power
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: swing for a catcher doesn't necessarily have like the best
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: catching chops, but with Abs coming through, there's a good
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: chance that, like, he's not gonna need to be an
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: elite framer an elite catcher if the bat will play.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: So it reminds me a little bit of like, I'm
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: not even sure if Kyle Gashioka, who's also on the Rangers,
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: might have a little bit of this profile where I
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: think the power ceiling here for more could be something
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: akin to like a mid twenties homer, something like a
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: two thirty two forty average, just great counting stats. It
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: is just a very sweet lefty swing, and I think
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: that he's got a lot of the tools coming out
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: of Stanford to be able to rise pretty quickly through
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: the system as well as there's just not very many
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: other catchers around him. So I'm not usually huge on
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: catchers for dynasty keeper leagues, but More ticks a lot
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: of the boxes for where you know, college age bat
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: got into the league last year, hit pretty well when
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: he debuted, should probably hit double A this year and
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: could hit the majors, you know, in twenty twenty six
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: or early twenty twenty seven.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 3: Catching prospects. We're talking about catching prospects. I think he's
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 3: got a really strong hit to well. I do worry
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 3: about him staying at ketcher. You know, I could see
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: him ending up at first base or DH. But if
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: he is able to stay at ketcher, I think that
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 3: bat plays up. I think that's a good position for him. Jeremy,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 3: you could pair him with cal Rawley to have that
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 3: nice batting average and power combo at your catcher position.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 2: You have me at Luis Riah's all right.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: Well, that wraps up all of our team previews for
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: this entire twenty twenty five season. Sam, thanks for running
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: us out here with the Al West. We've had a blast.
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that we were able to connect again and
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: bring you on after meeting at First Pitch Arizona together. Absolutely,
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you out there again, hopefully
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: this fall. That I'm just itching to go back, and
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: it's what like seven months away at this point.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 3: That that's right.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: I had the time of my life last hey year.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 3: Any of the listeners starry to break into an impromptu
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 3: commercial for a First Pitch Arizona But if you have
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 3: never been in a room with two hundred other people
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: who care about what your roster construction is, that want
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 3: to talk to you about underlying stats, that want to
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 3: talk to you about the game, that really bring out
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 3: that inner baseball geek in you, that you really feel
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 3: like you're thirteen years old hanging out with the cool kids,
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 3: even if it's fantasy baseball. Do yourself a favor. Go
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 3: to First Pitch Arizona. It is the most fun. And
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 3: just like Michael said, like we met, and it's just
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 3: when you meet people there, you almost become instant friends
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: because everybody's just in a good mood talking about fantasy baseball.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 3: Like how much better does life get than that?
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: I totally agree.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 3: That's why, Jeremy, you gotta come next year.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: We gotta have I know who's working on me, who's
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: working on me? My kids like take us to Disney
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, fantasy baseball.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm going to leave you at home. You're
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 3: not going to have fun.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: It's that sounded good to me.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: Hey the hotel has a pool, Yeah yeah, absolutely. Okay,
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: Well let's wrap it up. Sam. Let everybody know where
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: they can find you on socials and reach out to
• 2:04:11
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• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: Right now, I'm on Blue Sky. You can find me
• 2:04:16
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• 2:04:25
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• 2:04:30
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• 2:04:32
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• 2:04:34
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• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, thanks for coming on Sam.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: Jeremy.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: Let everybody know where they can find you on socials
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: one more time. Yep.
• 2:04:41
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• 2:04:57
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• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys joining up.
• 2:05:02
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• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: And like I.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: Said, this wraps up our team previews. If this is
• 2:05:19
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• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: back and get the other five divisional previews that we
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: ran previously. And with that, we're going to wrap up
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: for this pod and we'll be back same time, same
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: place next week. Thanks everybody, thanks for having me.