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We're Betting With Our Hearts: An 8-Leg Parlay | Parlay Builder, Week 8 · The Mike Blitz Show

0:00
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Mike Blitz Podcast.
0:04
SPEAKER_00: Miami's been doing number one.
0:06
SPEAKER_00: BYU's dropping to number two.
0:08
SPEAKER_00: BYU has not been this high since the 1984 national championship team was ranked this high.
0:14
SPEAKER_00: Indiana 22-game win streak is over.
0:17
SPEAKER_00: And their reward?
0:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh, they're going to the big house in Auburn.
0:20
SPEAKER_00: The team that just took down number one Georgia.
0:23
SPEAKER_00: Well, Saturday at noon.
0:25
SPEAKER_00: They're playing LSU.
0:26
SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about it and build a parlay.
0:28
SPEAKER_00: All that and more right here on the Mike Blitz Podcast.
0:35
SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Mike Blitz.
0:37
SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Mike Wade, Mike Two co-host over there, Mark Frenzen and Darren Steadman.
0:42
SPEAKER_01: Gentlemen, I got one thing for you.
0:44
SPEAKER_01: From the wise words of Miss Taylor Swift, we got to look back at last weekend.
0:48
SPEAKER_01: Shake it off.
0:49
SPEAKER_01: Shake it off.
0:50
SPEAKER_01: Shake it off.
0:51
SPEAKER_01: Three and five last week was no good.
0:53
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, we are getting back on the to our winning ways this week.
0:57
SPEAKER_01: We've got feelings, we've got hunches, we've got strong inclinations.
1:02
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna guide us to victory.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: So very excited to be back with you guys and looking forward to another great week of college football.
1:08
SPEAKER_01: Week eight, I think it is.
1:09
SPEAKER_01: Week eight is what we're dealing with.
1:10
SPEAKER_01: Week eight, where it's where we are.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: Week eight is great.
1:14
SPEAKER_03: It's happening as we speak.
1:16
SPEAKER_03: It's Tuesday night.
1:17
SPEAKER_03: So of course, when week eight is already upon us.
1:19
SPEAKER_01: That's true.
1:20
SPEAKER_01: Who do we?
1:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, who I think middle, I think middle Tennessee is playing as we speak.
1:24
SPEAKER_01: Missouri State's getting it in.
1:26
SPEAKER_01: South Alabama.
1:27
SPEAKER_01: South Alabama.
1:28
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:30
SPEAKER_02: What conference is taken?
1:31
SPEAKER_00: What conference is taken over Tuesday nights?
1:33
SPEAKER_00: It used to be Mac, but I think the Mac was Wednesday.
1:44
SPEAKER_01: Geez, I didn't realize that.
1:46
SPEAKER_01: They're half their conference is playing before Thursday.
1:49
SPEAKER_01: They've really embraced the midweek ball.
1:50
SPEAKER_01: Good for them.
1:51
SPEAKER_01: Good for CUSA.
1:52
SPEAKER_01: You know, and everybody zigs, you got a zag.
1:54
SPEAKER_01: Just like we talk about this all the time here in uh the parlay pod.
1:57
SPEAKER_01: You know, sometimes don't go with gravity, go against.
2:00
SPEAKER_01: And CUSA is saying, look, other nine conferences, I'm playing football on Tuesdays.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: See you later.
2:06
SPEAKER_01: So good for them.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: Good for them.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: Good for them.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh, the agenda of the night, as you guys know, we're gonna talk through all of our the major action this week.
2:15
SPEAKER_01: There are some big games, not as heavy a slay as last week.
2:18
SPEAKER_01: Last week was honestly for the record books, frankly.
2:20
SPEAKER_01: That's gonna be a long we might not see a week like that the rest of the season.
2:23
SPEAKER_01: November 7th, we'll give it a good shot, but it's gonna be a minute at least.
2:26
SPEAKER_01: And the upsets, oh my god, the upsets.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: Somebody we didn't see coming.
2:29
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna try and read the tea leaves this week, see if we can get back on our winning ways, make some good picks, make some good suggestions to y'all.
2:36
SPEAKER_01: Of course, um, is we're just gonna have some fun, especially not betting a ton of money.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, we won't get anybody in trouble or anything like that.
2:42
SPEAKER_01: With that said, uh, Mark, I'm gonna turn it over to you and I'm gonna stop rambling.
2:46
SPEAKER_01: Let you drive this bus.
2:47
SPEAKER_00: Guys, we have two big marquee games to start us off.
2:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, the first one is uh Trinidad Chandless and the Ole Miss Rebels are driving over to Texas to take on the Longhorns, who are licking their wounds after last week.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: Texas comes into the game ranked 19th.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, Ole Miss only went up to seven.
3:07
SPEAKER_00: I with all the teams losing ahead of them.
3:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm surprised they didn't jump much higher.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: This game's 7:30 Saturday night on ABC, and Texas comes in as a three and a half point home favorite with an over-under at 53 and a half.
3:23
SPEAKER_00: Guys, what are your thoughts on uh what are your thoughts on this?
3:26
SPEAKER_00: Trinidad's going to take on Arch.
3:30
SPEAKER_01: Oulmus is a weird team away from home.
3:32
SPEAKER_01: They don't play nearly as well away from home as they have as they do uh in Oxford.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: I think DKR might be the exception.
3:39
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think I'm gonna say it right now.
3:41
SPEAKER_01: I got Olmus going in and win this game outright.
3:44
SPEAKER_01: Here's why.
3:44
SPEAKER_01: I think Ulmis defense has kind of figured it out.
3:46
SPEAKER_01: We kind of wrote them off after the Florida debacle and the Louisville game week one.
3:50
SPEAKER_01: Defensive secondaries were breakdown.
3:52
SPEAKER_01: The last two weeks or so, their defense has really turned it on.
3:55
SPEAKER_01: They I think they gave up three points or whatever it was to Missouri.
3:58
SPEAKER_01: They actually absolutely blank them.
4:00
SPEAKER_01: We've got a Texas team which is coming in, what ranked 120th in offense.
4:04
SPEAKER_01: Um, Arch Manning's fighting for his job.
4:07
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think well here's my point they're not that bad, but they're way up there.
4:11
SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's pretty relative to the NFL talent.
4:14
SPEAKER_01: Relative NFL talent, it's way worse.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: Here is my general read of this game.
4:18
SPEAKER_01: Ole Miss is gonna shut down the run, and then it's gonna be on Arch Manning to win this game.
4:23
SPEAKER_01: I have zero confidence he can do that.
4:25
SPEAKER_01: And Texas is moved is is out its best uh player on the defensive side, Colin Simmons, defensive end, all world.
4:32
SPEAKER_01: I think leading the nation in sacks at the moment is out for this game, might be out for a little while.
4:38
SPEAKER_01: I love Ole Miss here because I don't love anything about Texas.
4:41
SPEAKER_01: Uh, what do you got?
4:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think what um I think the the Texas Longhorns are gonna snap out of it, actually.
4:48
SPEAKER_03: I think they're gonna make use of those wide receivers.
4:51
SPEAKER_03: It's like, goodness gracious, Archman, and can't you just throw it up in Cam Coleman's universe and just let him do what he do and go up there and get those balls and wingo, you know?
5:02
SPEAKER_03: Like they have they have these wide receivers that are just incredible.
5:05
SPEAKER_03: I actually think they're gonna score some points.
5:08
SPEAKER_03: I also agree that Ole Miss Um is gonna end up is gonna end up winning this game because Colin Simmons is out and the defense is just gonna have to look different.
5:19
SPEAKER_03: It's gonna have to be called differently.
5:21
SPEAKER_03: Uh they're gonna have to make up for his absence.
5:25
SPEAKER_03: And so I like the over, actually.
5:27
SPEAKER_03: I like points to be scored in this one, and I think it's a relatively low uh total for Ole Miss.
5:34
SPEAKER_03: Ole Miss can they?
5:36
SPEAKER_03: I mean, can they score 50 by themselves?
5:38
SPEAKER_03: Maybe not against Texas, but on a on a normal week, they they are a 50-point team by themselves, and so the over of 53 and a half.
5:49
SPEAKER_03: I think I like the over.
5:51
SPEAKER_03: Um Michael, I also like Old Miss.
5:54
SPEAKER_03: Since it's at home at Texas, you know, I would want the three and a half points.
5:58
SPEAKER_03: Me too.
5:59
SPEAKER_03: Um, in case of that Texas miracle at the end of it.
6:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
6:04
SPEAKER_03: Let's but I like that.
6:05
SPEAKER_03: I like the over on the points, though.
6:07
SPEAKER_01: I think I'm kind of with you on the points.
6:08
SPEAKER_01: I can also see, like, I mean, Texas still has a pretty good defense, and the biggest thing that scares me is like while I think Trinidad has figured some things out, like we have seen Ole Miss get leave the comfy confines of the Grove and not do so well.
6:21
SPEAKER_01: I think you and I both like the three and a half the most.
6:24
SPEAKER_01: I think you like the over, I like the money line, and are kind of mind-melding on the three and a half.
6:29
SPEAKER_01: So maybe that's the play for this one.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: Take uh take Ole Miss, the field goal on the hook, little hooky.
6:35
SPEAKER_03: Mark Franzen, when you look at when you listen to these two guys talk over here, what are you hearing come out of this conversation?
6:42
SPEAKER_03: It makes any sense.
6:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh what I want to look at is Old Miss's games on the road this year so far.
6:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
6:49
SPEAKER_00: So the first three games were at home, then they went to Florida where they lost 52 to 28, then they went to Vanderbilt where they won 52 to 17.
6:57
SPEAKER_00: So this will be their only their third road game of the season.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: Um they looked okay at Vanderbilt, but you're right.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: Like, was it more of the letdown after the LSU win in Florida, or was it really that the traveling for the first time this year kind of bit them in the tail?
7:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I like what you guys are saying about the three and a half.
7:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, Texas defense, that's the flip side of it, is Texas defense has been holding teams regardless of Colin Simmons is out, he's one dude.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: There's still a lot of other dudes on that defense.
7:30
SPEAKER_00: Um they held Ohio State to 23.
7:34
SPEAKER_00: And Ohio State, pretty good team.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: They held uh Tennessee to 17, Oklahoma put up 27, Florida put up 27.
7:41
SPEAKER_00: Nobody's put more than 27 up against them.
7:44
SPEAKER_00: So at 53 and a half, that's half the number right there.
7:48
SPEAKER_00: And they nobody's put up more than 27 against them.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: So I like the three and a half there where you guys were mind-melding on that one.
7:56
SPEAKER_01: I think I think that's I think it's about as good as good of a quorum as we're ever gonna get.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: Lock it in.
8:02
SPEAKER_01: Lock it in.
8:03
SPEAKER_01: Three and a half, no miss.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: All right, next marquee game.
8:06
SPEAKER_00: This one, uh the Utah Hutes.
8:09
SPEAKER_00: The game in Utah.
8:10
SPEAKER_00: They are the Houston Cougars coming to town.
8:13
SPEAKER_00: Houston's coming off the big win at Oklahoma State.
8:16
SPEAKER_00: Houston's offense is the ninth best offense in college football, uh, where Utah's offense is the 11th best offense, according to uh Billy Connolly.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: This game, late night though, Saturday, 10:15, ESPN.
8:30
SPEAKER_00: Utah is a six and a half point favorite as of this afternoon and the over-under at 56 and a half.
8:36
SPEAKER_00: I'm bringing up DraftKings now.
8:38
SPEAKER_00: I think those numbers are both still pretty good.
8:42
SPEAKER_00: Utah runs you loved them.
8:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I was so I think the problem with my Utah play is I was just early.
8:48
SPEAKER_01: Utah runs this fun two-quarterback system, they're kind of like Iowa.
8:51
SPEAKER_01: They have a little thing going there, uh, with uh Milton Breedman, I think is his name, and obviously Devin Dampier.
8:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, they're doing some things that are pretty interesting and well.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: I was early on Utah.
9:01
SPEAKER_01: Last week was their letdown spot.
9:02
SPEAKER_01: We all saw them kind of blow it against Colorado, almost lose.
9:05
SPEAKER_01: This one is not, and on the other side of the coin, Houston monster win, had to go to toe-to-toe, an absolute war.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: I went back and watched that Oklahoma State uh Houston game.
9:15
SPEAKER_01: Actually, just an incredible football game from start to finish.
9:18
SPEAKER_01: I love Drew Mestemaker.
9:19
SPEAKER_01: If my NFL team needed a quarterback, I think he might be he might be QB1 in my book in the draft, but that's conversation for later.
9:26
SPEAKER_01: My point, Houston coming off a war, Utah sleepy game in Boulder, didn't get it right.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: Now they're going to Rice Eccles in Salt Lake, which for my money is might be the best home field situation ever.
9:39
SPEAKER_01: We have ignored the feels of these games, the emotional feelings of this game.
9:44
SPEAKER_01: I'm not doing that this week.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm leaning into the vibes.
9:47
SPEAKER_01: So I want Utah at home to cover because this is such a good spot.
9:52
SPEAKER_01: They're not going to be let down, they're going to be super focused at home.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: Elevation crowd.
9:57
SPEAKER_01: Houston is going to be fighting the the fatigue of what happened last week in that monster winner, Oklahoma State.
10:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh I got Utah covering, and uh, I think it's gonna be I think I think they may win by 17.
10:11
SPEAKER_01: I really do respect Houston's offense.
10:13
SPEAKER_01: Um, Kobe Young, Mari Thomas, you got some Makai Hughes back there running the ball.
10:17
SPEAKER_01: Connor Wygman's like 29 years old, and he's obviously a pretty darn good quarterback.
10:22
SPEAKER_01: But uh, this is just you just don't want to go.
10:24
SPEAKER_01: Rice Eccles is a just a really, really hard place to play.
10:27
SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna go, I'm going, I'm taking I'm I'm betting with my heart this week, Darren.
10:31
SPEAKER_01: That's my theme this week.
10:32
SPEAKER_01: I'm betting with my heart.
10:33
SPEAKER_01: Give me the Utah Utes to cover.
10:35
SPEAKER_03: Danger, danger, heart bets.
11:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, heart bets.
11:19
SPEAKER_03: Mark, we need your need your brain bets.
11:22
SPEAKER_01: It's the emotional buy-in.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: It's what we've been doing.
11:24
SPEAKER_01: We've looked, we have whiffed on these letdowns of the last two weeks.
11:28
SPEAKER_01: I want to lean into the let to the emotional buy-in.
11:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
11:33
SPEAKER_01: Like you, how can you find a better spot than this than Utah coming off a sleepy game?
11:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, we weren't really focused.
11:38
SPEAKER_01: This is the one they want.
11:39
SPEAKER_01: And Houston, exhausted from Oklahoma State game.
11:42
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
11:44
SPEAKER_03: I know what you mean.
11:45
SPEAKER_03: I know what you mean.
11:45
SPEAKER_03: I think and I think that's wise too, because we've seen so many of those letdowns come through.
11:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, and so you gotta you gotta take into account um yeah, what these what these boys are dealing with.
11:57
SPEAKER_03: I know I know what you mean.
11:59
SPEAKER_03: First, I want to say this.
12:01
SPEAKER_03: Uh, the longest active winning streak I mentioned on the last pod was Indiana.
12:07
SPEAKER_03: And after they lost on Saturday, do you know how who now has that longest active winning streak?
12:15
SPEAKER_03: The Utah Utes with 12 games dating back to last year.
12:20
SPEAKER_03: And so they finished real strong last year, and you're right, Rice Eccles in Utah is an awesome place to play.
12:27
SPEAKER_03: I watched them play the other day against Kansas.
12:31
SPEAKER_03: Kansas not very good.
12:33
SPEAKER_03: Um, and they that was that was one of our good parlay weeks, and we needed a needed a couple lucky breaks there, and and Utah ended up being one late night because they were up by they were up by 10 or 12 or 14, and Kansas had to, you know, lay it all in the line and go for every single fourth down and go for touchdowns and stuff.
12:54
SPEAKER_03: And they had a couple stands in the middle of the field, that defense, and a goal line stand at the end, and they were just swarming and blitzing, and the defense was just just menacing, you know.
13:08
SPEAKER_03: And so I think they're gonna bring that energy as well.
13:11
SPEAKER_03: I like covering cover and six and a half points too.
13:14
SPEAKER_03: Houston, Houston's a great team, too.
13:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, there's a little bit of caution in this game, which is that Houston should have beat Texas Tech a couple weeks ago.
13:25
SPEAKER_03: Um, and ever since they didn't, they've been playing really good football.
13:30
SPEAKER_03: Um, given all that though, the Utah, Utah on that defense uh is gonna cover seven points.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the the Houston offense is what scares me.
13:40
SPEAKER_01: It's not the Houston defense.
13:41
SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's that good, but it's the Utah.
13:43
SPEAKER_01: It's the Houston offense just going up there or just what do they do if they what do they what do they do if they walk in, take the opening kickoff, and open the game up 17-0?
13:53
SPEAKER_01: Like I don't know what you I don't know like you know, if they just go explosive play, explosive play, you know, decent drive, field goal, and then all of a sudden we're a 17-0 hole, like that could be a real problem.
14:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't think that's gonna happen.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: I think the electricity is gonna be through the roof.
14:08
SPEAKER_01: It's 10 versus 14.
14:09
SPEAKER_01: They're their top 10 squad is hosting a dangerous Houston team.
14:14
SPEAKER_01: There isn't anybody in the state of Utah, Brigham Young included, who doesn't know that Houston's coming.
14:19
SPEAKER_01: They're not worried about this team.
14:20
SPEAKER_01: So I think they're gonna have their full undivided attention and they're gonna play like it.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: So I like, I like that I I'm worried about Houston starting fast, but I don't I don't think Utah's gonna let them do it.
14:29
SPEAKER_00: Like, when you look at a line at five and a half versus six and a half, that would be like I understand the difference between six and a half and seven and a half, right?
14:39
SPEAKER_00: But like where would you be for buying that point of taking it to five and a half?
14:44
SPEAKER_00: Six and a half just seems like a I don't know, that's that's the only thing I'm that I that I worry about.
14:50
SPEAKER_01: I am happy to buy a point and drop it down to five and a half, honestly.
14:53
SPEAKER_01: I've lost many a bet 21, 27 and a seven and a half six and a half point line.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: Like that's happened to me countless times.
15:00
SPEAKER_01: No, six, six to uh obviously six six and a half to seven and a half is a is a big benchmark, but so is five and a half to six and a half.
15:08
SPEAKER_01: So if you want to go down a line, we're all the juice then is only minus one twenty-five, so we're not even paying much for that point.
15:13
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's great.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's do that.
15:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, five and a half.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that I would feel a lot better if we were gonna throw that in there.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's do that.
15:22
SPEAKER_00: All right, cool.
15:22
SPEAKER_00: Let's do that.
15:23
SPEAKER_00: All right, locking it in, locking every play.
15:27
SPEAKER_00: I just I don't want to, you know, I don't want to lose on that.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: Plus, it's a late night game, so we're gonna have to stay up for it.
15:33
SPEAKER_00: So especially because then I start counting my money at like 10.15.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
15:41
SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: The one thing you're not supposed to do.
15:45
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's move into some of our top 25 games.
15:49
SPEAKER_00: The number one team of the nation, the Miami Hurricanes for right now.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: They are hosting Pitt.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: Pitt, oh poor Pitt.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: They were doing so well until our buddy um can't I think of his name, where he tore his ACL in BM.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: There you go, Mission uh in the Virginia Tech game.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: This game is noon on Saturday in Miami's favorite by 20 and a half.
16:09
SPEAKER_00: Um Pitt is a shell of itself in the last couple weeks since Darren uh came out and said he wanted to.
16:15
SPEAKER_00: What you want to do to Narduzzi?
16:17
SPEAKER_00: Slap him in the face after that Virginia Tech game, which I still think he shouldn't won.
16:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
16:22
SPEAKER_03: You know, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind if I had the opportunity to give him a good slappins.
16:27
SPEAKER_03: Uh and turn turns out um it could have done him a little good, actually, if I would have been able to, because they lost the next two games, including at Boston College.
16:36
SPEAKER_03: We're talking about a Pittsburgh team who went to Boston College and got beat by a one-man offense.
16:43
SPEAKER_03: They're Boston College has a quarterback and little else, and somehow they put up 27 points against Pitts.
16:50
SPEAKER_03: Amazing, ranked, respect us on the AP pole defense.
16:55
SPEAKER_03: So Pittsburgh is nothing to me.
16:57
SPEAKER_03: Um, Miami has been woken, has been woken up.
17:01
SPEAKER_03: We should lay whatever number we have to lay, 21 points for Miami to beat Pittsburgh at home.
17:07
SPEAKER_00: I think the rest of the ACC just slapped Pittsburgh in the face after that game.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: So Mike, uh any thoughts on this one?
17:15
SPEAKER_00: Do you like this one?
17:16
SPEAKER_01: So it's holding Gurinier as the quarterback, 45 for 70 for man, he has not done much.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, two touchdowns, two interceptions, a couple sacks against pretty uh low-level competition.
17:28
SPEAKER_01: So not exactly stirring the hearts and minds of uh pit betters right now.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, is is Miami hungover?
17:36
SPEAKER_01: That's really my only I got no hesitation here, other than is Miami because they were, I think, weren't they 20-point favorites last week too?
17:44
SPEAKER_01: And it was double overtime, weren't they?
17:46
SPEAKER_01: They were 15 or so 15, 17.
17:49
SPEAKER_01: Okay, fine.
17:49
SPEAKER_01: Big number.
17:50
SPEAKER_01: It was a big number last week, too.
17:51
SPEAKER_01: Big number.
17:52
SPEAKER_01: Big number.
17:53
SPEAKER_01: Didn't really show.
17:54
SPEAKER_01: And I will say Miami is starting to get some injuries, they're starting to kind of add up a little bit.
17:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, I'll I I'll back you up, Darren, if you want it.
18:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm I don't have a strong feeling about this one.
18:03
SPEAKER_01: And my my concern, I've I've made it my I've made my feelings about Chris the ball known.
18:07
SPEAKER_01: He always just duffs one.
18:09
SPEAKER_01: He's like a great golfer who's scratch, and then one on one hole, he'll go double boat, he'll go double par and hit an eight, hit a ten.
18:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm a little worried about that because Pitt really doesn't look competitive.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: They really, really do they've lost two in a row, Heinzchel's out, they really don't seem competitive.
18:28
SPEAKER_01: And Miami had that crazy down to the wire.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: Hail Mary.
18:32
SPEAKER_01: By the way, Deuce Robinson absolutely caught that ball.
18:34
SPEAKER_01: I think they got, I think Forrest got a little got a little bit jobbed on that.
18:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, but beside the point, they got the win.
18:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, if you're really convinced there's no hangover here, I can ride with it.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, I don't think I think the over-under's right.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: 15 and a half.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: I mean 35-14.
18:50
SPEAKER_01: That sounds about right to me.
18:51
SPEAKER_01: Sounds like the spread's like probably where it needs to be.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, what's Pitt's what is Pitt's team total?
18:58
SPEAKER_01: Does Pitt have a team total that anyone's gonna do it?
19:00
SPEAKER_00: There's a good one.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: There's a good one.
19:02
SPEAKER_00: I mean Pittsburgh total points.
19:04
SPEAKER_00: Take a look at that.
19:05
SPEAKER_00: 14 and a half.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's a good line.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
19:09
SPEAKER_01: That's a good line.
19:09
SPEAKER_01: I want it to be like 16 or 17.
19:11
SPEAKER_01: 14 and a half, 14 and a half just seems about right.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: Vegas really uh really nailed it with this one.
19:17
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I don't love it, but I'm with you, Darren.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
19:24
SPEAKER_00: Darren thoughts.
19:26
SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, so I don't like this game.
19:28
SPEAKER_03: I still like it.
19:29
SPEAKER_03: I know you're right.
19:30
SPEAKER_03: No, go for it.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: I just don't like Miami.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't trust Miami.
19:34
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to put my money on Miami.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: I would do on the over at 50 and a half, which kind of looks good, but I don't know.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: Mike Mike tells a nice story.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: Crystal balls is out there to duff one.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: He's there to let us down.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: But if he does duff one, it would probably mean mean Pittsburgh scoring, and Miami's gonna get theirs as well.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: So, like, honestly, like, or if Miami, like if Darren's right, and like my point is there are two versions of a story that might not uh cover the spread, but both of them go over.
20:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't think anyone's expecting this game to like if if Pitt does cover, they scored 20 points.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: If Pitt scored 20 points, I feel really good about Miami scoring 31 points.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: I mean, is he over interesting to you, Mr.
20:16
SPEAKER_01: Stedman?
20:18
SPEAKER_03: But so this game is the only real windy, rainy weather game.
20:23
SPEAKER_03: And so that's interesting to me.
20:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's interesting to me.
20:27
SPEAKER_03: This is gonna be this is gonna be significant wind.
20:31
SPEAKER_03: Um, and so maybe it's just a stay away because it might just be a low scoring game.
20:37
SPEAKER_03: Just grass ball.
20:39
SPEAKER_03: The total has come down a couple points from like 53 to 50.
20:44
SPEAKER_03: I think because of that.
20:46
SPEAKER_03: And so, but but then again, I think we've we've said that a couple times in the last couple weeks, and you know, it's and then it's not raining, it's only a wet grass, and then these passing teams don't care.
20:58
SPEAKER_03: They just they just bombs away and throw deep balls and don't care.
21:02
SPEAKER_00: Our stupid Miami Clemson that was supposed to have a monsoon, but it looked very, very football friendly weather.
21:09
SPEAKER_03: Exactly, exactly.
21:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
21:11
SPEAKER_03: Went away in the same way.
21:12
SPEAKER_00: And so final thoughts on this one.
21:16
unknown: Alan.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: Sound like a stay away.
21:17
SPEAKER_00: All right, yeah, yeah.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: Stay away.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: Not passionate.
21:20
SPEAKER_03: I feel pretty committed.
21:21
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's getting cold outside, and I'm feeling pretty curmudgeonly.
21:24
SPEAKER_03: I'm wearing my hoodie, so I feel like um feel a little Belichick-esque tonight and this week.
21:30
SPEAKER_03: So maybe I'll just kind of dig heels in and be like, no.
21:33
SPEAKER_03: So let's just say, let's just know this one.
21:36
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
21:37
SPEAKER_03: All right.
21:38
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's take on the new number two team in the nation, the BYU Cougars are going to Central Florida 330 on Fox.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh BYU is favored by seven and a half over under 45 and a half.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: LJ Martin is not expected to play.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Mike, you've got uh you've got thoughts on this one.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: BYU is really good, and I want to talk about Bear Mock Bachmeyer, and I put on go for it and say a lot of good things about him.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: Uh, this is another emotional spot.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: I really want to fade BYU, I really, really want to fade BYU.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, going to Orlando is tough.
22:13
SPEAKER_01: UCF's defense has quietly been pretty darn good.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: The over and Vegas recognizes that the over-under for this game is 43 and a half.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: So they're already calling for a for a low total for a Big 12 game.
22:25
SPEAKER_01: I got UCF, I think, coming off a bye, playing at home, facing BYU with what their biggest wins since what'd you say, Mark?
22:32
SPEAKER_01: The 80s.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: Um 1984.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: Look, man, I'm telling you, I'm gonna keep going back to I'm betting with my heart BYU.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: Is ex emotionally exhausted after what happened to with Notre Dame.
22:44
SPEAKER_01: This is another perfect emotional letdown spot.
22:48
SPEAKER_01: It was UCF plus seven.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: Now it's plus six and a half.
22:51
SPEAKER_01: So we're getting some steam too that we missed.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, I want to take UCF plus six and a half, even though I don't, I'm not that confident they're gonna win.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: I think BYU might eke it out, especially if it's a low, low total.
23:03
SPEAKER_01: But this just reeks exhausted, ugly slop fest.
23:08
SPEAKER_01: Give me a I'm getting I'm I'm getting almost a touchdown, and I would take it up.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: If you want to go plus seven and a half, go six and a half to seven and a half.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: And if I can interest you in that, Darren, you I know you got a lot of BYU thoughts, so I'm gonna stop talking.
23:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, when BYU played um Iowa State, I think it was a couple weeks ago, and that was at BYU, and they just simply um ran the ball for three and four yards a pop the whole second half, and it looked like the game was like mightily in hand for the BYU Cougars, but they were only up by like three or four points the whole time.
23:43
SPEAKER_03: But it felt like it felt like it felt like they were up by 20 because they were in control of the game.
23:49
SPEAKER_03: I think that might happen here.
23:51
SPEAKER_03: They might just kind of plod and and you know, kind of push around this this team and this game and win the game by five points.
24:00
SPEAKER_03: So I certainly don't like laying by BYU, but I also can see BYU winning 17 to 6, you know, and covering that number.
24:12
SPEAKER_03: I d I in a BYU is so good on defense.
24:16
SPEAKER_03: I think if that if they get let down on offense, okay, I get it.
24:21
SPEAKER_03: But the defense might show up and just blank UCF.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh CF is UCF is tricky.
24:27
SPEAKER_01: Scott Frost has kind of got them, kind of got them grooving again.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: I don't, you know, especially I know especially on defense.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: Who's who are they doing?
24:33
SPEAKER_01: They lost.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: They I mean UCF scored 30 on Oklahoma State, scored 18 on Houston, they beat TCU, lost to Pitt in that rainbow.
24:42
SPEAKER_01: So they so they're a little bit all over the map, but their defense, their defense hasn't given up a lot.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: Um they give up 40 or they give up 30 to Georgia State.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't love that.
24:54
SPEAKER_01: 27 to Houston.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: Although Houston's a good offense.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, Mike, go ahead.
24:57
SPEAKER_01: Houston's a real Houston Houston, I think Houston, Houston might be the best offense in the Big 12.
25:01
SPEAKER_01: That's really saying they get some really good offenses there.
25:03
SPEAKER_01: Um I cannot.
25:05
SPEAKER_01: I'm with you on agree.
25:06
SPEAKER_01: I cannot lay the points here.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: I cannot lay, I cannot lay that going into this.
25:10
SPEAKER_01: There's no way.
25:11
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
25:11
SPEAKER_01: I mean um I'm cool staying away, but I would do, I would take UCF plus seven and a half if I could talk you into it.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: Because I just think this is an ultimate letdown emotional spot.
25:22
SPEAKER_01: They've got also, and again, I just I also think we've I think we the three of us have not done a good job of properly, properly pricing in coming off a bye week, which I believe UCF is, correct?
25:32
SPEAKER_01: UCF is they are at home, and we have not done a good job of pricing that in.
25:37
SPEAKER_01: So I just love UCF off a bye at home with a chance to get a just emotionally battered BYU squad on their heels.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: Like if Bear Bachmeyer comes out guns blazing and shuts them down and wins this game 28 to 6.
25:52
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we might we might be talking about a split Heisman.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: That's that's like a Heisman candidate worthy performance.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: I gotta see it.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm a big Bear Bachmeyer fan now.
25:59
SPEAKER_01: He convinced me at the other game name game, but this is a hell of a spot going into Orlando.
26:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, UCF's a decent team.
26:08
SPEAKER_03: Um, I like staying away from this game.
26:10
SPEAKER_03: Ah, yeah, forget it.
26:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is another like Florida is the only place where we're gonna see wind and rain and weather.
26:17
SPEAKER_03: And so in Miami and in in Orlando, uh, that's gonna be a windy weird game, so it might just be like a 10-12 or a 14 to zero or something like that.
26:28
SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
26:29
SPEAKER_04: All right.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: All right, guys.
26:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Indiana lost for the first time in 22 games.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and they're and their present is a trip to the big house to take on Tommy Corr.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: Although, although Wayne Ham is not officially announced a quarterback to start, but they go into the big house or take it on Michigan.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: It's noon, big noon Saturday on Fox, where Indiana comes in at a seven-point favorite, and the over-under is 41 and a half.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: A lot of defense is going to be played in this game.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: The line's already moved a little bit, so seven and a half now, I think, or just I think, or at least it is on.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: Seven on DraftKings right now.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so it's bouncing between seven and seven and a half.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: That's probably fair.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: Uh, 41-point spread.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: Um, I have a same situation.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, this is this is the exact same.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: I feel the exact same way about this, but the last game.
27:19
SPEAKER_01: Um Michigan's not off a bye.
27:21
SPEAKER_01: Michigan had a kind of gutsy win, actually.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: Maybe a little bit of a maybe a little restorative uh shot in the arm going to Tommy Car, uh, getting all those points off turnovers, getting the win against Penn State.
27:31
SPEAKER_01: Even though Penn State isn't very good, the three and four, just beating that school, that brand just means a lot.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: Um, again, low total, 41 and a half.
27:40
SPEAKER_01: That's like four points more than like a service academy game.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: So we're not not talking a lot of points.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: So, same situation.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: I love Indiana.
27:46
SPEAKER_01: I can't lay those points.
27:47
SPEAKER_01: That is too low of a total for laying the points.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: I want to take Michigan plus seven and a half.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: I want the emotional letdown spot again.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm going, I'm telling you, man, I'm betting with my heart every game.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, I also think I think Michigan kind of figured some things out offensively with Tommy Carr.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: The second half they did.
28:04
SPEAKER_01: The second half they did, and this time they they're gonna he's gonna be he's rolling with the ones all week.
28:08
SPEAKER_01: I am pretty darn sure he's starting this game, in which case they're going to plan for him.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: Michigan still has a big, strong offensive line that can run downhill.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: Still two phenomenal running backs, two phenomenal pass for catchers.
28:21
SPEAKER_01: If you're telling me that if Michigan can't, if Tommy Carr could just be George McIntyre, you know, just hit some play action plays, some you know, poor man's JJ McCarthy, which I think is what they're grooming him to be anyway.
28:34
SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm I I'm I'm I want I want the home team of the points again.
28:38
SPEAKER_01: I want I want Michigan plus seven and a half.
28:40
SPEAKER_01: I'll stop talking.
28:42
SPEAKER_03: Like Tommy Carr and uh Michigan hasn't put up points, they put up 19, 14, 21.
28:51
SPEAKER_03: They came back, and Michigan is in the letdown spot because they they came back in the fourth with Tommy Carr to win that game at home versus Penn State.
29:01
SPEAKER_03: Um, so this is more their letdown spot.
29:03
SPEAKER_03: And don't forget, Indiana lost that game.
29:05
SPEAKER_03: So I wouldn't say they're in a they're in like the letdown spot, they're in like the pissed off revenge mode, perhaps.
29:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:13
SPEAKER_03: Um, what I like is the over, actually.
29:16
SPEAKER_03: So I'm saying that Michigan hasn't put up points, you know, under 20, under 20, under 20 points.
29:21
SPEAKER_03: But now we got Tommy Carr at the helm.
29:23
SPEAKER_03: I think maybe Michigan is ready to score some points against Indiana, and Indiana is certainly ready to score points.
29:30
SPEAKER_03: Um, I think 42 is too low, and I like the over here.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: I like that a lot too.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: Go ahead, Mark.
29:38
SPEAKER_00: I mean, those are good defenses, man.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: Indiana really stepped up in the red zone against Ohio State and stopped them from scoring.
29:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Michigan's defense is consistently good in the red zone.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: I see a lot of field goals in this game.
29:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I see some short fields too, but like honestly, a bunch of field goals are fine too at 41 and a half points, 42 points.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: That's less.
30:01
SPEAKER_01: That's that's 10.3 points, or that's 10 and a half points a quarter.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: That's really not a lot of scoring.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: A couple short fields.
30:08
SPEAKER_01: I think I think Michigan's offense is gonna be better.
30:11
SPEAKER_01: I think they're gonna score.
30:13
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's funny.
30:14
SPEAKER_01: Darren, you were saying 14, 18, 19.
30:17
SPEAKER_01: The seven-point spread, that means Indiana scored 26, 27.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: That's good enough.
30:23
SPEAKER_01: That if they get 19 and they get 26, that's good enough.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: That's our over.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: I also really like the overplay.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: I like the IO, I like Michigan plus seven and a half or the over.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: Look at these games this year.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: The total amount of points for Michigan.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: Now I understand Enderwood was playing in these, but Western Michigan, total points in the game, 25.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: Oklahoma, 27.
30:43
SPEAKER_00: UTEP, not even going to count that as a real game.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: Then Conference Play, Iowa, 39.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: Minnesota, 34, Penn State, 39.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: They've not been ahead of it.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: I, you know, they've not put up more than 40.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: Like the teams have not put up more than 40 in any of their real games this year.
31:01
SPEAKER_00: And Indiana's defense is better than these than any of these other teams they've played.
31:04
SPEAKER_01: So is there who's the who's the best offense Michigan's played in that slate?
31:08
SPEAKER_01: Is it Iowa?
31:10
SPEAKER_01: I love Iowa this year, but that's not the best offense.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: Is that the best Iowa?
31:14
SPEAKER_01: Indiana too.
31:15
SPEAKER_01: Indiana's got a damn good offense.
31:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm yeah.
31:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm okay.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: We might be a stay away because we're all we all have different leanings here, but I'm good with Michigan plus seven and a half or the over if we can get quorum.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: I Darren, what are your thoughts?
31:32
SPEAKER_00: Because I don't mind the over.
31:35
SPEAKER_03: I am I am perfectly fine.
31:38
SPEAKER_03: Um going going zag here and just and just stay in a way.
31:43
SPEAKER_03: Have we logged a bet yet?
31:44
SPEAKER_03: We have two.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: We have all this plus three and a half, and you'll alt line minus five and a half.
31:51
SPEAKER_03: Um I'm digging for gold.
31:52
SPEAKER_03: I'm not digging for pewter, you know.
31:55
SPEAKER_03: I like what you're saying.
31:56
SPEAKER_03: I like what you're all right.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: Let's get off.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's uh let's go to the SEC where Vanderbilt is going to Kentucky.
32:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh this game is 7.30 on the SEC network on Saturday, and Kentucky comes in as a 10-point favorite and uh 51 and a half.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: And Darren, you've got big thoughts on this game.
32:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think what we're looking at here is um is a lot of points.
32:26
SPEAKER_03: I like I like Vanderbilt actually to score some points.
32:30
SPEAKER_03: I like Jared Curtis, their quarterback.
32:33
SPEAKER_03: They have been held down.
32:35
SPEAKER_03: They have been, oh well, you tell me.
32:38
SPEAKER_03: They have been held held down a little recently.
32:42
SPEAKER_03: Um and I just and like we've been saying about Kentucky and Will Stein, uh and the the Kentucky Wildcats are just scoring points.
32:54
SPEAKER_03: Kenny Minchie, 1,500 passing yards.
32:57
SPEAKER_03: My goodness.
32:58
SPEAKER_03: I just think I don't think we're gonna see points here.
33:01
SPEAKER_03: I like the over of 51.
33:04
SPEAKER_03: Um, I think these teams might just trade some touchdowns back and forth.
33:09
SPEAKER_03: I haven't seen Kentucky's defense, you know, swarm and put up an impressive stops and goal line stands or nothing like that.
33:19
SPEAKER_03: They just kind of control the ball and score methodically.
33:22
SPEAKER_03: I think Vanderbilt will do the same thing.
33:25
SPEAKER_03: Uh am I crazy for saying that?
33:27
SPEAKER_03: Vanderbilt's just gonna put up points on Kentucky.
33:30
SPEAKER_01: My my read of this game is actually I don't think Vanderbilt's gonna score that many points.
33:34
SPEAKER_01: I don't think Kentucky's gonna get stopped once.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: Kentucky's offensive line is really good, and they're playing at home, they're gonna be going downhill a lot.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: I do love the over.
33:42
SPEAKER_01: You can talk me into that.
33:43
SPEAKER_01: Or the either way, I think I I mean maybe Vanderbilt scores 20.
33:48
SPEAKER_01: I got no problem seeing uh Kentucky's hang 40 here.
33:53
SPEAKER_01: And that for me, that's them covering the spread or the over.
33:56
SPEAKER_01: If you want to get really saucy, we could do both.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: We probably shouldn't.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: We don't have we don't we don't have the best luck double dipping like that, but I'm on I'm I'm I'm back in big blue to cover or over.
34:05
SPEAKER_01: Either one's good with me.
34:07
SPEAKER_00: You have to what you guys are saying.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: Curtis is back, yeah.
34:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, I know it was hurt earlier.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: I gotta be honest, I have not been watching a ton of Vanderbilt football lately, but uh Curtis has played in the last two games, so he is he is back out there throwing in four interceptions in the last two games.
34:22
SPEAKER_01: So I mean they they scored they scored 17 at old versus old miss at home.
34:26
SPEAKER_01: They scored 21 versus uh Arkansas at home, they scored 14 at Georgia, and I don't Kentucky's defense sure isn't Georgia.
34:35
SPEAKER_01: Um they scored 15 at Auburn, they scored 31 versus NT State.
34:40
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I mean Vanderbilt, you're yeah, Dan, you're you're you're changing my tune a little bit.
34:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'll Vanderbilt at Georgia, at Georgia, they went into halftime 14 to 21 at Georgia.
34:50
SPEAKER_03: So they score they came out and scored a little bit.
34:53
SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, and so they have the potential to score.
34:57
SPEAKER_03: What I'm saying is they have the potential to score like 17 points, which I think along with Kentucky's uh offensive uh you know fireworks are gonna get us over 50.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: So I'll like over.
35:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:11
SPEAKER_03: I lock it in.
35:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh over at 51 and a half.
35:15
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna get that number?
35:16
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: Great.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
35:18
SPEAKER_00: All right, a game with a very similar over-under at 50 and a half.
35:21
SPEAKER_00: Alabama is hosting Texas AM, where a couple years ago this game would have been prime time, but this is Saturday, 3.30 on ABC, and Bamba comes in as a two-touchdown favorite.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: Once again, it's a 50 and a half point uh over-under on this one.
35:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm not betting on Alabama to cover after a two-game losing losing streak at playing an AM team which has a top 10 talent roster, just composite talent, coming off a bye.
35:53
SPEAKER_01: AM smells blood.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: They are opportunistic, but man, Marcel Reed stinks.
35:58
SPEAKER_01: This game reeks of stay away to me, Darren, but you must have a you must have you must have a feeling in your plums.
36:05
SPEAKER_01: What do you got?
36:06
SPEAKER_03: My feeling is what you just said confirms it.
36:09
SPEAKER_03: Um AM has all defense, no offense, Alabama is shaky or they're on their heels.
36:15
SPEAKER_03: I think it's an under game.
36:17
SPEAKER_03: And the under has come down three points.
36:20
SPEAKER_03: It's at it was at 53 and it came down to 50.
36:23
SPEAKER_03: And so if if we go under, yeah, under 50, under 51, something like that, uh this might this might just be a super low score, you know, like a 20 to 21, you know.
36:40
SPEAKER_03: I think Alabama's offense Alabama's offense is gonna struggle to score against Texas AM.
36:47
SPEAKER_03: I just still I still think they're bringing good defense.
36:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:51
SPEAKER_01: Somebody has said that.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: Like AM is like a top 30 team.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: They just happen to be like ninth or ten in the SEC.
36:57
SPEAKER_01: Like they're not a bad football team.
36:59
SPEAKER_01: I think if you look at some of their like composite like SP stats, it's just hasn't really gone their way.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: And Marshall Reed's not as good.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: So you're saying under?
37:08
SPEAKER_01: Is that what I heard you say?
37:10
SPEAKER_01: 50 15 and a half.
37:13
SPEAKER_00: What makes you think Alabama's not gonna show up?
37:16
SPEAKER_03: It's because they've got 17.
37:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Georgia.
37:22
SPEAKER_03: The last two weeks they put up 17, they put up 10.
37:24
SPEAKER_03: So they're just shaky.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: And the script is kind of out on Alabama right now.
37:29
SPEAKER_01: Their interior offensive line is objectively bad.
37:32
SPEAKER_01: And if they can get to Keelan, then he has real problems.
37:36
SPEAKER_01: And that's something that both Georgia and um Tennessee did really well.
37:41
SPEAKER_01: And I kind of think AM's got a couple guys, especially again, coming off a bye.
37:45
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna be fresh, they're gonna be hungry, they're gonna be looking for something.
37:49
SPEAKER_01: Um I could definitely see an under.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: I could definitely see an under.
37:54
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm still living in the world where Alabama put up 50 against Florida State, 49 against South Carolina, 56 against Mississippi State.
38:01
SPEAKER_00: But then again, again, Georgia, great defense, held him 17.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: Tennessee, good defense, held him to 10.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: I uh maybe in my mind, I still think Alabama, I can still see Alabama scoring a ton of points here.
38:13
SPEAKER_01: All right, well, how many points do you think AM is gonna get?
38:17
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if it's 25 to 10, let's say let's say Alabama scores a ton, gets to 28, and then AM gets to 17.
38:24
SPEAKER_01: We're still hit our under.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: Like this game's not going much beyond that.
38:29
SPEAKER_01: I yeah, I'm I'm I I not in the cop I'm talking myself into taking the 13 and a half, too.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: I like the point, I like the under and AM.
38:38
SPEAKER_03: Go ahead.
38:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, quick point of order.
38:39
SPEAKER_03: You said that Texas AM was coming off a bye.
38:42
SPEAKER_03: They're not exactly off a bye, but they did beat Citadel 41 to 0.
38:46
SPEAKER_03: Oh, fine, whatever, same thing.
38:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, which I'm saying, yes, same thing.
38:51
SPEAKER_03: Well, that government even now.
38:53
SPEAKER_01: Even when I don't mean to, I'm still disrespecting the Citadel.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: Mike White would be thrilled to hear that.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: I don't mean to keep doing that, but even when I'm not meaning to, I'm still making fun of those folks.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: Destroy the Citadel.
39:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for our for our VM uh friend Charles, yeah.
39:07
SPEAKER_03: We will, you know, Citadel, you are a bye week to us.
39:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they Citadel's been catching strays in this podcast for years.
39:14
SPEAKER_01: Not gonna stop tonight.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: Um, all right, so where are we?
39:18
SPEAKER_01: Under points.
39:19
SPEAKER_01: I don't I'm I'm good with either.
39:20
SPEAKER_01: I'm good with AM plus 13 and a half.
39:22
SPEAKER_03: Under or I like to fade it.
39:24
SPEAKER_03: Fade another one and see if I care.
39:27
SPEAKER_03: Or we do the under.
39:29
SPEAKER_00: Under.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: The under.
39:31
SPEAKER_03: All right, under it is.
39:32
SPEAKER_00: We've been good on totals.
39:32
SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll let's keep it going.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: All right.
39:34
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's move over to our next game where the uh USC Trojans are traveling to Wisconsin to take on the Badgers.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: This game is at 7:30 on Saturday on NBC, and USC's coming to Wisconsin with a uh three-point favorite.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: And the over-under on this one is 49 and a half.
39:54
SPEAKER_00: Let me check the latest line here.
39:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh who's got this one?
39:57
SPEAKER_00: Both of you have takes on this one.
40:00
SPEAKER_00: Wisconsin's bad.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:03
SPEAKER_01: But USC is worse on the road.
40:05
SPEAKER_01: They're like two and nine the last two years in Big Ten road games.
40:08
SPEAKER_01: They're like, and then I think they're even worse.
40:10
SPEAKER_01: They're after this, they're after the spread records, even worse.
40:13
SPEAKER_01: Like, Wisconsin is bad, but like if I'm betting on anything here, I think I'm betting on Camp Randall.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: Like, I you Lincoln Riley going into there, Wisconsin's defense hasn't been bad.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: Colton Joseph, obviously, we I mean, I had really high hopes from the ODU period.
40:28
SPEAKER_01: I really thought, I really kind of thought he was gonna bring some juice there, but seven points against UCLA is not.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: I think he had a whole rack of turnovers too.
40:36
SPEAKER_01: So I don't I don't love that, but Wisconsin's defense is good.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: Camp Randall, this game's 7:30 at night, jump around, House of Pain.
40:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: What did USC do last week?
40:49
SPEAKER_01: Where were they?
40:50
SPEAKER_00: They were in Penn State.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: Or no, is that what it's been two weeks ago?
40:54
SPEAKER_00: They were off by they were they were off.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: Oh, coming off a bye.
40:57
SPEAKER_01: Coming off a bye.
40:58
SPEAKER_01: They were in Penn State.
40:59
SPEAKER_00: This is their third road game of the year.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: They went to Rutgers and only won 42 to 35, and you went to Penn State State and only won 31-23.
41:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they are terrible on the road.
41:10
SPEAKER_01: Terrible, terrible, terrible road team.
41:12
SPEAKER_01: Uh Darren, you feel strongly?
41:14
SPEAKER_03: What do you got?
41:15
SPEAKER_03: Feels super strong.
41:17
SPEAKER_03: Here's what I know about you, Michael Wade, though.
41:19
SPEAKER_03: I can see through I can see through your skin into your heart.
41:22
SPEAKER_03: Like you said, you're betting with your heart.
41:25
SPEAKER_03: And you want Wisconsin to be good so bad.
41:29
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
41:30
SPEAKER_03: That's true.
41:31
SPEAKER_03: You want Luke Fickle to succeed.
41:33
SPEAKER_03: I do.
41:34
SPEAKER_03: Um he is on.
41:37
SPEAKER_03: Ghost of Ron Dane to show up out of the stands and run the ball for 255 yards.
41:42
SPEAKER_03: Um, you want them to be to be good, but they are not.
41:46
SPEAKER_03: They scored seven points last week.
41:48
SPEAKER_03: Colton Joseph um is a pretty decent player, but I think the league has him figured out, including USC's defense.
41:57
SPEAKER_03: USC is coming off a bye.
41:59
SPEAKER_03: They are traveling, it's true, but they've had two weeks to prepare for this one.
42:03
SPEAKER_03: Uh laying three points doesn't make sense to me.
42:07
SPEAKER_03: I think the truth about USC is that they are still one of those fringe playoff teams.
42:14
SPEAKER_03: Uh six and one.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:18
SPEAKER_01: I mean it's also come down.
42:21
SPEAKER_01: It was it was three.
42:21
SPEAKER_01: Now it's two and a half.
42:22
SPEAKER_01: So we're we're we're we're not we're all we're also going against the steam.
42:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:29
SPEAKER_03: So uh happy to lay off another one.
42:31
SPEAKER_03: Um I'm so curmudgeonly this week.
42:34
SPEAKER_01: You could talk me into a total, man, but I can I just can't I can't bet on USC on the road.
42:38
SPEAKER_01: I can't do it.
42:39
SPEAKER_01: I can't bring myself.
42:40
SPEAKER_03: I would do an under.
42:41
SPEAKER_03: I would do an under because I got yeah, Wisconsin's defense is gonna show up.
42:46
SPEAKER_03: That's that's Camp Randall for you.
42:48
SPEAKER_03: Wisconsin's defense.
42:49
SPEAKER_01: Um isn't 49 and a half is isn't a very isn't that low of a number for these two teams.
42:56
SPEAKER_01: Like that's that's okay.
42:57
SPEAKER_01: I can live with that.
42:58
SPEAKER_01: I can live with 49 and a half.
43:01
SPEAKER_00: Like USC comes into is it it's beautiful.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've had it snow back home on Halloween, so like the weather says 60 66 degrees and partly cloudy is what I'm seeing.
43:13
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, something like that.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: It was in the 30s.
43:15
SPEAKER_00: That would be so cool to see USC try to go play in that weather, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
43:19
SPEAKER_01: Yes, weather's 64.
43:21
SPEAKER_01: I would love to see like a negative seven degrees with like a like a windstorm blowing across the field.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: Like, and obviously, Wisconsin's just Wisconsin's just like y'all are y'all are in our world now.
43:32
SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Alta Pain.
43:34
SPEAKER_03: You're talking my language now because it's October 20th, and we are not that far away.
43:39
SPEAKER_03: We are not a couple weeks away from seeing a snow game somewhere in the US, and that's gonna be an incredible little rate of passage to put us into foot full football season.
43:49
SPEAKER_03: All right, yeah, I'm with you.
43:51
SPEAKER_03: So I'm with you.
43:51
SPEAKER_00: The four and two Wisconsin Badgers are hosting the six and one number sixteen overall USC Trojans, and we are taking a pass.
43:59
SPEAKER_00: Or the under, the pass or the under.
44:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm good with either.
44:02
SPEAKER_01: Let's go under.
44:03
SPEAKER_01: Mike, you seem to perk up about the under.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're just better at totals.
44:07
SPEAKER_01: We're just I the totals are hard for some reason.
44:10
SPEAKER_01: Don't like it, aren't it intuitive to me, but we're just better at them than we are spread.
44:13
SPEAKER_00: So would you be pissed if I don't take the under on this one next week?
44:16
SPEAKER_00: No, no, I'll do one, but I'll do another one where I don't take this one.
44:20
SPEAKER_01: Okay, absolutely.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: You say all right, sayer of Nay.
44:23
SPEAKER_01: You live your best.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm joining, I'm joining you guys on that one because I don't trust the Wisconsin offense.
44:31
SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, trust me.
44:33
SPEAKER_03: Don't should don't bring chagrin to Mark and his balance.
44:37
SPEAKER_03: This is a good thing.
44:38
SPEAKER_03: Bring balance.
44:39
SPEAKER_03: To the force.
44:40
SPEAKER_03: We need it.
44:41
SPEAKER_00: All right.
44:42
SPEAKER_00: I got a bad feeling about this.
44:44
SPEAKER_00: It's my Star Wars line for you.
44:45
SPEAKER_00: All right.
44:46
SPEAKER_00: Let's go up to Washington State.
44:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, Washington State, on a 138 schools, is ranked in the 120th, and they are hosting Boise State, the 20, number 21 team in the nation, Boise State, the the Bell of the G6 ball.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: This game is on USA Network Saturday, 6 p.m.
45:08
SPEAKER_00: And Boise State comes in at only a 13 and a half point favorite.
45:13
SPEAKER_00: Over under 51 and a half.
45:15
SPEAKER_00: Darren, you love, you love the good Northwestern schools.
45:19
SPEAKER_00: Not Northwestern themselves, but schools in the Northwest.
45:23
SPEAKER_00: What are your thoughts on this?
45:25
SPEAKER_03: I do.
45:25
SPEAKER_03: I I secretly want to be a Pac-12 homer, and I want that to be my I want that to be my league, but it's not.
45:34
SPEAKER_03: But um Boise State's coming off a bye, and they're gonna score and score again and shut these guys down.
45:40
SPEAKER_03: They're gonna win by 28 points.
45:42
SPEAKER_03: So they have we have to lay 14.
45:45
SPEAKER_03: Washington State is is not good.
45:48
SPEAKER_03: And is it 14 and a half?
45:50
SPEAKER_03: 13.
45:51
SPEAKER_01: 13 and a half.
45:52
SPEAKER_01: 13 and a half, right?
45:54
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no, no, no.
45:55
SPEAKER_03: No, this is home.
45:56
SPEAKER_03: That's that is way off.
45:58
SPEAKER_03: I think Boise Steve is about to flex.
46:00
SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, they're good.
46:02
SPEAKER_03: Medics Madsen and the Blue Boys.
46:05
SPEAKER_03: I think they're just a far superior team.
46:08
SPEAKER_03: And 13 is not enough.
46:10
SPEAKER_03: Lay it.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: I'll take that any day, Mike.
46:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't see any reason to, I don't see any reason.
46:16
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm looking at Washington State.
46:17
SPEAKER_01: They have looked pitiful against everybody.
46:20
SPEAKER_01: And Boise's coming off a bye, and the weather's gonna be decent enough.
46:26
SPEAKER_01: 55 degrees.
46:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm not although obviously Boise is familiar with cold weather.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: They ain't gonna be scared.
46:32
SPEAKER_01: Also, Pullman's gonna be dead.
46:33
SPEAKER_01: I mean, who's coming out?
46:34
SPEAKER_01: Who who Washington State fans are showing up for a one and six Washington State squad?
46:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's lay them.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: Um you I don't even think about that.
46:41
SPEAKER_01: That wasn't even on my radar until two minutes ago.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm in.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: Lamb, let's go.
46:44
SPEAKER_03: Washington skate three weeks ago, Washington State scored at home six points against Fresno State.
46:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're not, they're just not gonna not happen.
46:54
SPEAKER_03: This might be a really good spot.
46:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:56
SPEAKER_01: All right.
46:56
SPEAKER_00: All right, cool.
46:57
SPEAKER_00: You want to juice it up a little more?
47:00
SPEAKER_00: All right.
47:00
SPEAKER_00: I got a little excited.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: Under under two touchdowns is good.
47:03
SPEAKER_01: I thought I think 13 and a half is a good thing.
47:06
SPEAKER_03: All right, let's go conservative play.
47:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, all right.
47:09
SPEAKER_00: Let's go from the northwest to the southwest, where the Iowa State Cyclones are going to Arizona, where the Wildcats are the number 25 team in the nation.
47:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, this game is 7:30 on ESBN 2 on Saturday, where Arizona comes in at an 11-point favorite with the over-under and 50 and a half.
47:30
SPEAKER_03: Mikey, do you want to you want to watch those Arizona Wildcats just roll?
47:34
SPEAKER_01: Arizona's like quietly one of like dark horses to win the conference.
47:37
SPEAKER_01: Like, no Fafita that defensive straight dealing.
47:40
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think Iowa State is okay.
47:43
SPEAKER_01: I don't think they're a bad football team.
47:45
SPEAKER_01: They're okay.
47:45
SPEAKER_01: Um, they're not bad.
47:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh they scored or Iowa State scored 40, 40 over 40 on West Virginia.
47:51
SPEAKER_01: Um Arizona at home.
47:54
SPEAKER_01: Arizona at home.
47:55
SPEAKER_01: What did Arizona do last week?
47:58
SPEAKER_01: Bye bye.
47:58
SPEAKER_03: These are two by two by teams.
48:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
48:02
SPEAKER_03: Two by teams.
48:03
SPEAKER_03: Man, the number dropped.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: This afternoon it was at 11.
48:06
SPEAKER_00: Now it's at 10.
48:08
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
48:08
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
48:10
SPEAKER_01: Nine and it's a nine and a half on uh so all the steam is going the other way.
48:14
SPEAKER_01: Wait, you're using fanduel?
48:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at dragons.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, using fan.
48:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm using a fan duel right now.
48:18
SPEAKER_01: No free ads.
48:18
SPEAKER_01: Nine and a half, no free ads.
48:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh support them.
48:22
SPEAKER_01: None, not a single one.
48:23
SPEAKER_01: It's uh yeah, it's going down.
48:26
SPEAKER_01: That's a lot of that's a lot of steam.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: We're we're we're we're we're pushing into Darren.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, but who's Arizona playing?
48:33
SPEAKER_03: Not a lot, not a lot.
48:35
SPEAKER_00: They lost to BYU.
48:36
SPEAKER_00: They beat Northern Illinois, they beat Washington State, they beat Cincinnati, they beat West Virginia.
48:43
SPEAKER_01: You know, my favorite player in Iowa States is Aiden Flora, that running back.
48:46
SPEAKER_01: He's awesome, but Arizona's been outstanding against the run.
48:50
SPEAKER_01: Like that's a real thing that Arizona has done this year is they've put themselves like Brett Brennan seems like he shook off that early loss.
48:57
SPEAKER_01: All right, Darren, I'll I'll do it.
48:58
SPEAKER_01: I've got I'm a little bit of an Arizona stan all season.
49:02
SPEAKER_01: Why am I gonna stop now?
49:03
SPEAKER_01: Why am I gonna stop now?
49:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the way they the way they handled West Virginia was just awesome.
49:09
SPEAKER_03: Uh they just Virginia ran ran for Fafita just looking effortless out there.
49:14
SPEAKER_03: I don't think Iowa State's gonna stop any of that.
49:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, why West Virginia put up 300 yards on the ground against the Arizona West Virginia puts Virginia will put three put three will put up 300 yards against anybody, they'll give up 500, but they'll put up 300 yards against the ground.
49:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they gave up what was 500.
49:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I watched that BYU Iowa State game closely.
49:35
SPEAKER_01: Jalen because obviously, I think we bet on Iowa State to like keep it close, maybe not to maybe cover the spread.
49:40
SPEAKER_01: And Jalen Rayner just seemed helpless.
49:42
SPEAKER_01: Like he the BYU defense is better than the Arizona defense, I think, but they couldn't do anything.
49:47
SPEAKER_01: Where's this game?
49:48
SPEAKER_01: This game is in Tucson, yeah, right?
49:51
SPEAKER_03: At Arizona, both teams coming off of uh the Casino del Sol Stadium.
49:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm not one to sleep on the Casino Del Sol Stadium, gentlemen.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, let's lay them.
50:00
SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
50:01
SPEAKER_00: Let's lay them.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: Do it.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: I like a gamble for Casino Del Sol Stadium.
50:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my thing.
50:06
SPEAKER_00: That's gonna do it for our top 25 games that we want to look at this week.
50:10
SPEAKER_00: It's Homer time, time of the show where we go and look at our favorite teams of the season.
50:14
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's the schools that we went to, maybe it's the teams we've loved since we started this season.
50:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh, let's start with Mike.
50:22
SPEAKER_00: Your LSU Tigers are going to Auburn, a team that just upset the Georgia Bulldogs in Athens.
50:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, this game is noon on Saturday on ABC, and you're coming in at a seven and a half point favorite with an over-under at 50 and that.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: What do we think?
50:41
SPEAKER_00: What's Sam Leather going to do this one?
50:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so the Lions stole this game at minus five.
50:45
SPEAKER_01: It jumped to minus eight and a half pretty much immediately, and then immediately.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: So it went over a touchdown, went back down to seven and a half.
50:51
SPEAKER_01: Betting on anybody to go into Jordan Hare is tough and scary.
50:55
SPEAKER_01: I've I've I've lost a lot of money doing that.
50:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, both teams are they're both teams who have two losses.
51:00
SPEAKER_01: This is a playoff eliminator for both of us.
51:02
SPEAKER_01: I don't think Auburn has ever had really realistic um aspirations of making the playoff in 2026.
51:08
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, some of the the Georgia win puts some of those chances back on the table of reality for sure, but um, I don't think anybody leading going at the stadium thought on the planes that this was gonna be Byron Brown is running the Vegeta of the ball.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna have he's on he's on pace for like 250 carries this year.
51:23
SPEAKER_01: That's like a NFL running back, like that guy's gonna be dead here in a little bit.
51:27
SPEAKER_01: So, like, is he gonna be able to do that again?
51:29
SPEAKER_01: 20, 25 more yards on my tigers.
51:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
51:34
SPEAKER_01: Um I don't I don't want to lay points because I've just Jordan Hare is a tough place to play.
51:40
SPEAKER_01: I do think you know, betting with my heart, betting with my heart, good two things happened.
51:44
SPEAKER_01: One, LSU took care of business in a non-dramatic, simple way, just vaporized Mississippi State.
51:49
SPEAKER_01: That helped us.
51:50
SPEAKER_01: Two, Auburn went to Georgia and won.
51:54
SPEAKER_01: Now LSU saw that happen and said, Oh, we got to pay attention to this.
51:58
SPEAKER_01: We have to be alive because this team is confident, just be the number one team in the nation.
52:04
SPEAKER_01: So I actually think it's gonna be better for LSU because we're gonna be playing with our hair on fire.
52:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't did you also see that Xavier Atkins, uh Auburn's best player, defensive the linebacker got dismissed from the team.
52:15
SPEAKER_01: He actually was he was on the LSU's team a couple years ago.
52:18
SPEAKER_01: I still don't know what happened.
52:18
SPEAKER_01: Sounded like a disciplinary issue.
52:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, so this is a stay away spot for me.
52:25
SPEAKER_01: My heart is way too tied up into this game.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: I think we win.
52:28
SPEAKER_01: I have no idea if we cover total of 50.
52:32
SPEAKER_03: I like an under.
52:34
SPEAKER_03: I think when I think of these two teams, I think of defenses and quarterbacks that are susceptible to turnovers, to you know, I don't see explosivity here, and a total of 50.
52:50
SPEAKER_03: I don't think Auburn will get to 17, 18 points.
52:56
SPEAKER_03: Um and so yeah, I like I like LSU's defense to to rule the day.
53:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, at I can grab it at fifth 51 and a half on draft games, right?
53:09
SPEAKER_00: I like that.
53:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I don't hate, I don't, I mean, I like I obviously appreciate what you're saying.
53:14
SPEAKER_01: I like LSU's defense, but Sam Levitt's been getting hot.
53:17
SPEAKER_01: We have been getting better and better and being more and more explosive.
53:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, 31 for 38 for 300, four touchdowns and nothing in Mississippi State.
53:25
SPEAKER_01: He threw for 300 against Kentucky.
53:27
SPEAKER_01: Uh, he threw for he got benched at McNeese game over 300 at Texas AM.
53:33
SPEAKER_01: And ever since, ever since the the the crazy interceptions, you have to remember Sam Levitt came to this team in the summer.
53:39
SPEAKER_01: He didn't have that much time.
53:41
SPEAKER_01: One of the big reasons, one of the big reasons that he was running so much was because I don't think he knew where his second and third and fourth receiver was.
53:49
SPEAKER_01: And when Trade Az Green went down, it was really like, Oh, now I really don't know what I'm doing.
53:53
SPEAKER_01: He's kind of figured that out.
53:54
SPEAKER_01: LSU's offense is getting better.
53:56
SPEAKER_01: I think it's number two offense in the SEC right now.
53:58
SPEAKER_01: I think statistically, it's way up there.
54:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, I I like our defense.
54:03
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, I like our defense, but I would not sleep on LSU's offense.
54:06
SPEAKER_01: We might go in there and hang 37.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: I could see it.
54:12
SPEAKER_03: Happy to stay away on this one then.
54:14
SPEAKER_03: Um I love LSU to win this game.
54:18
SPEAKER_03: Uh Auburn's emotional letdown, but I do not want to lay a road favorite seven points.
54:24
SPEAKER_03: That's uh over a touchdown?
54:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's ugly.
54:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm you know, I liked it at five and a half.
54:30
SPEAKER_01: We should we should have recorded this podcast at five o'clock on Saturday.
54:32
SPEAKER_01: We were busy at a football game, but if we weren't, maybe we should have done that then because then we would have gotten that five and a half number would have felt a whole lot better.
54:39
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, yeah.
54:40
SPEAKER_01: LSU LSU wins.
54:41
SPEAKER_01: I don't think I just don't think Byron Brown is is good enough, and their defense has is missing the best player.
54:47
SPEAKER_01: So um I'm expecting LSU to win.
54:49
SPEAKER_01: Betting wise, I don't like it.
54:52
SPEAKER_00: So uh you guys went to Blacksburg and spent some quality time with the Hokies.
54:56
SPEAKER_00: You touched the game ball, your brother had a turkey leg.
54:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh hopefully you remembered most of the game.
55:02
SPEAKER_00: And Virginia Tech is going to Clemson this Saturday, 7 p.m.
55:06
SPEAKER_00: ESPN.
55:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't have the lines on this one, but Darren, I know you know what's gonna happen.
55:12
SPEAKER_00: Tell me about it.
55:13
SPEAKER_03: I do, thank you.
55:14
SPEAKER_03: Um, who is the real Clemson Tigers?
55:18
SPEAKER_03: So they are essentially coming off of a bye week, which is that two weeks ago was their bye week.
55:25
SPEAKER_03: This past weekend they beat Charleston Southern 37-0 at home.
55:31
SPEAKER_03: Uh the week before that, they lost uh at home against Miami 41-13.
55:37
SPEAKER_03: Who is the real Clemson Tigers?
55:40
SPEAKER_03: They went to California and won a game uh at Cal when I think JKS was still playing, or that's the game that he went out in the middle of, maybe.
55:50
SPEAKER_03: Uh, but they won that one 24-10.
55:53
SPEAKER_03: I think this team is gonna bring a lot of good defense, and unfortunately for me and my boys, they have found their quarterback in uh Tate Reynolds, and he is he is pretty good.
56:05
SPEAKER_03: Clemson is a decent team, they're right on our tier, I would say.
56:09
SPEAKER_03: The middle, the upper middle of the ACC.
56:13
SPEAKER_03: It's just a good matchup.
56:15
SPEAKER_03: Virginia Tech, what's the what does the line say here?
56:18
SPEAKER_03: Let me look at it.
56:19
SPEAKER_01: Clemson minus two and a half.
56:21
SPEAKER_01: Clemson minus two.
56:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, not even a field goal.
56:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
56:25
SPEAKER_03: And the total is 49.
56:27
SPEAKER_03: And so we're looking at a 20 24 to 27 game or something like that.
56:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was.
56:33
SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, it's it's tough.
56:36
SPEAKER_03: It's scary because my boys have definitely come down to earth.
56:39
SPEAKER_03: I love our offense.
56:41
SPEAKER_03: Um, and we gotta we gotta do like we did when uh me and Mike had the high five of the for ages and score that opening touchdown on the opening drive, and gotta go crazy and jump around and get wild in the stands.
56:58
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, my boy's gotta bring some offense because because this is a good team and it's it's scary.
57:05
SPEAKER_01: I only have one thought on this game.
57:07
SPEAKER_01: This is a this is kind of a benchmark game.
57:09
SPEAKER_01: I've I don't want I'm not I don't want to throw shade at James Franklin.
57:13
SPEAKER_01: Um I'm not gonna do it, but I'm going to say that James Franklin at Virginia Tech so far has not done anything that he wasn't supposed to do.
57:22
SPEAKER_01: You could say, like, you I mean you could say that like he should have beaten Cal, the pit thing with a coin flip, but what he hasn't done yet is he hasn't gone to SMU yet, get that big upset.
57:32
SPEAKER_01: He hasn't gone to at Miami, got that big upset yet.
57:35
SPEAKER_01: This is a chance.
57:36
SPEAKER_01: If if Virginia Tech loses this game, they're fine.
57:38
SPEAKER_01: If they win this game, folks in Blacksburg start looking around saying, eight wins, nine wins?
57:45
SPEAKER_01: Okay, like this is a chance.
57:47
SPEAKER_01: I think Darren's right.
57:48
SPEAKER_01: I think they are about that same level, but this is a chance for them the Virginia Tech to assert themselves as a tier higher.
57:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, I like Virginia Tech to go in there and get a win.
57:57
SPEAKER_01: Just gonna think Gronkenmeyer's doing some good things.
57:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't think Tate Reynolds throws the ball down the field, he's averaging like three or four yards like beyond the line of scrimmage.
58:04
SPEAKER_01: So he's throwing a lot of like dink and dunk stuff.
58:06
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think Grunkenmeyer is gonna go up there and be the professional NFL draft quarterback that he is.
58:12
SPEAKER_01: And I've seen that Clemson defense up and in up in personal a couple times now.
58:17
SPEAKER_01: It's not very good.
58:18
SPEAKER_01: It should be, but it's not.
58:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, can't bet on it, so we won't, but I'm looking for James Franklin to upgrade himself to level up this Hokie's to continue to raise the ceiling and get the win with about 62% confidence.
58:35
SPEAKER_03: I spoke, Tate Reynolds is not that good.
58:37
SPEAKER_03: He's what he brings is a rushing element, which always scares me a little bit because I feel like our our hokies are susceptible to a scrambling quarterback, and so he can he can scramble around, he can get tough and get a couple tough yards here and there.
58:51
SPEAKER_03: Um, he's not throwing a bunch of touchdowns, though.
58:54
SPEAKER_03: I shouldn't say his passer rating is not high.
58:56
SPEAKER_03: He's uh he's serviceable.
58:59
SPEAKER_03: So I'll you know, amending that I feel a little bit better about my hokies.
59:04
SPEAKER_03: I think we're gonna outscore him.
59:05
SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, I said I said this to you on the way, I said this to you on the way home um from the from from the game.
59:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, tech's defense tech's defense is gettable.
59:13
SPEAKER_01: That's still a work in progress.
59:14
SPEAKER_01: Brent Pryde so still has some work to do.
59:16
SPEAKER_01: And 20 giving giving up 24 points to Georgia Tech at home isn't the worst thing.
59:21
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think Georgia Tech played pretty well, doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies either.
59:25
SPEAKER_01: You know, I think uh I think I don't I don't think Clemson's offense is very good, but tech's defense also is not putting fear in the hearts and minds of quarterbacks yet.
59:36
SPEAKER_01: I think from Franklin will, I think they'll get there in 27 or 28, but I don't think this Hokies defense is there yet.
59:42
SPEAKER_01: I think your offense is what's really gonna evaluate.
59:44
SPEAKER_01: If they if the Hokies get to eight or nine or ten wins, it's gonna be Gronkemeyer, I think.
59:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh Tate Reynolds' stat line from the Charleston Southern game.
59:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm assuming he only played in the first half because they were up 34 and nothing at halftime, but he was 17 of 26 for 127 yards in a QBR of 26.4 against the Charleston Southern defense, which yeah, yeah.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you've got to perform better than that against the big thing.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_01: You have to throw the ball down the field.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_01: You have to throw the ball down the field if you can't do it against Charleston Southern, even the Virginia Tech defense, which I think might be a B minus, is better than Charleston Southern.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_01: Like, you gotta throw the ball down the field.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_01: So they did run though.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_00: 46 carries, 231 yards team.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_00: Not bad for Clemson, but yeah, kind of like the hookies.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_00: Dinkin and Duncan.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Dinkin.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_01: We can't bet it anyway, but it but it should be good TV.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_01: I'll look forward to watching it.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_00: All right, uh team.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_00: It's the uh Floyd of Rosedale game, Iowa going up to Minnesota.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_00: Jeremy Hekolinski will be starting for the Iowa Hockeys.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_00: Hockey's this uh this weekend.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_00: I switched the screen.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_00: Uh 3.30 on Fox Sports One.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_00: Iowa comes in at a six and a half point favorite, the over-under at 41 and a half.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, guys, this is a fun little rivalry game.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_00: I like this one.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_00: Both teams are coming off the bye.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_00: Um Iowa is the North 14th defense, and Minnesota is the 85th best offense.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_00: I think that's that's gonna be the difference in this game, is that Minnesota Minnesota should not be able to score more than like 14 in this game.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_00: Just like they couldn't score that much.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_00: They barely beat Michigan.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, I see I see a very uh similar offensive performance, and if uh Iowa can get the running game going with Kamari Moulton and um I can't forgot what the other guy's name was.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_00: Uh I can definitely see Iowa uh taking this one, uh, but I don't know about that either.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_01: Six and a half points is a lot of points to lay with a 40 and a half over under.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_01: I just hate I hate laying up points when the total is like under 42, just at any in like any spot.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_01: So, like just from like that standpoint, but like I also agree with you.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_01: I don't think Minnesota's gonna score.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think Iowa's gonna be in position to make tackles all day, all night.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_01: And I don't think PJ Fleck, PJ Fleck is a known commodity, he's been there for a long time.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_01: He doesn't, he's not some guy who pulls a rabbit out of hat.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_01: And I was on a team that gets beat by trick plays, so I don't know what I I don't know what I'm not sure what Minnesota is going to do.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_01: Minnesota went to Purdue and they got 40 hung on them, and they scored 13.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_01: Um, I beating Michigan was nice.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_01: Beating Michigan was a good one.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, talking about let why did we not bet on that letdown spot?
1:02:33
SPEAKER_01: God, we are blowing up the season with the letdown spot.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_01: Um Purdue is not every game is not until last week.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_01: Um that's a really low total.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_01: But it's also the bug.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_01: But this is the most this this is probably the most Big Ten of Big Tenny games.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_01: Classic old Big Ten West showdown, three yards in a cloud of dust.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_01: So the total's probably right, and that's too many points to lay.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_01: And I'm no way I'm betting on Minnesota.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_01: This is a stay away for me just because of it.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_01: Kind of breaks like all my kind of my gambling axioms that I kind of have for myself.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's the time of the season.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_03: Could dig my heels in and go, you know, curmudgeon once again and just say, bet the under.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_03: This is gonna be a 12 to 15 ball game.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_03: But you know, that's the that is the Iowa, that is the thinking of your your uncles, your grandpa's Iowa Hawkey's.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, these guys can actually score.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_03: They might just score, score, score.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_03: So this is a stay away game.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_03: It's a great stay away game.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_00: Forget about it.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_00: I like it.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_00: All right, guys.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh Tennessee, huge win last week against Allah Friggin Bama.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_00: Now they're going to South Carolina and trying to end Shane Bieber's tenure at South Carolina.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, this game is 3.30 on ESPN.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_00: And actually, South Carolina was favored last time I saw at two and a half.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_00: Peipel is not named a starting quarterback yet.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_00: We don't know if it's McIntyre or Faison.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_00: I think we kind of know who's going to end up playing.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_00: But over under at 15 and a half.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Darren, what are your thoughts on this game?
1:04:14
SPEAKER_03: It's the same thing as that those letdowns that we've been seeing all year.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_03: Um, Old Miss, Old Miss was the first one to start the chain, and it's been going on ever since.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_03: They beat LSU, and then Old Miss the next following day is an underdog at Florida, and that turns out to be the truth.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_03: And Florida beats the hell out of them.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_03: And so here we got Tennessee.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_03: They just had the win of the century and they beat Alabama.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_03: Now they're an underdog against South Carolina.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_03: What?
1:04:45
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't make any sense, but I I would be a fool to be shocked if it came true.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_03: And South Carolina has played some decent football.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_03: Lenora Sellers is an absolute enigma.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_03: He might go off and score, you know, five touchdowns, half of them rushing, uh, or he might just, you know, kind of dud himself into the dirt and do nothing.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_03: Who knows what's going to happen with those guys?
1:05:14
SPEAKER_03: So it's a stay away from me.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_03: I don't have any confidence.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_03: If I have anything at all here, it's Tennessee money line.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_03: But that's crazy because it's the letdown spot.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_01: This is the letdown of all letdown spots right here.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_01: And we got South Carolina at home coming off a bye.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_01: And we've seen town this we've seen Tennessee go to South Carolina as favorites and lose bad.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_01: This place has been a house of monsters for the Tennessee Volunteers the last decade.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_01: This is where Hennon Hooker had his season end injury that 2023 when they were trending towards the national championship.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_01: The play out, the the playoffs didn't work out.
1:05:49
SPEAKER_03: Um uh terror manor, would you call it?
1:05:54
SPEAKER_03: You could say you could say South Carolina Manor.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and the safe word is code red or code garnet, whatever color South Carolina is.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_03: I forget the safe word.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh it's it's just a callback to your uh haunted house in Rhodes.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, our haunted house appears in there.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm still thinking about it.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_01: I want so I want Tennessee to win.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_01: I but betting on George McIntyre to go into there and this bot, like if they can only play defense and run the ball, and that was good enough to beat Alabama, that's about all they did.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_01: I don't think McIntyre's stat line.
1:06:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna see if I can find it really quick.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm I don't think McIntyre's stat line against um Alabama was very good.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_01: I think it was uh Deshaun Bishop being the absolute sledgehammer that he is, very impressive outing.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_01: That Jim Knowles defense just flying around everywhere.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_01: Um, let me what is what was McIntyre's stat line?
1:06:46
SPEAKER_01: 21 for 31 for 191 yards, 197 yards, no touchdown, one pick.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_01: Not exactly awe-inspiring.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_01: South Carolina's defense in that stadium.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_01: I would probably put on level of Alabama's defense.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_01: Uh, if if not maybe a little bit better.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_01: Um I want to at the falls, but I can't do it.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_01: I can't do it.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_01: I just thought, yeah, I'm with you, man.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_01: I want to bet the normal balls, but I can't.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_00: Darren, what's your mind from earlier about a heart of gold, not a heart of pewter?
1:07:15
SPEAKER_00: What did you say?
1:07:16
SPEAKER_00: I'm digging for gold.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_00: Not digging for that say digging for gold.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_01: Um I do think I do think 15 and a half's kind of high.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_01: I could go under on this game.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_01: I don't mind.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't hate that play.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_03: 50 points.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_01: 15 and a half.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_03: 15 and a half.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_03: Um, so we would lose that if Lenoris Sellers and uh goes off goes off.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_03: And Nick, what is it?
1:07:43
SPEAKER_03: Nick uh what's it?
1:07:44
SPEAKER_03: Harbour, Nick Harbour, Nick Harbour.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_03: Deshaun Bishop is gonna be the Tennessee offense once again.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um Xavier, you know, Xavier Gillum, that all world that all American defensive tackle Tennessee, he might be in Lenorris' Sellers mailbox every every play.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_01: You know, he I mean, I think I think Loris is gonna be is gonna have to extend a lot of plays.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_01: I think Tennessee's defensive line's really coming on.
1:08:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I don't know what do you do if you're if you if you're down by 10 with George McIntyre, you what do you do?
1:08:13
SPEAKER_01: What what what do you do there?
1:08:15
SPEAKER_03: Let me tell you something, Mark.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_03: We went to Terra Manor and Mike Wade right there.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_03: He went he did a jump scare like like that, I swear 20 times.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_03: It was awesome.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_03: We put we kept putting each other in the front of the line, like you go first, you go first.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_03: His brother, Steven, Steven, you go first.
1:08:34
SPEAKER_03: He's like, No, hell no, Steven didn't go first.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_03: But Mike and he was those those guys come out in a in a scary clown bloody fangs mask, and Mike goes, uh it was I was the tip of the spear, Darren.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_01: The tip of the spear.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_03: It was awesome.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh Mike, did your brother wear sleeves?
1:08:57
SPEAKER_00: He's always sleeveless when we go out places.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no sleeves.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_00: No sleeves.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_00: The gun show was live.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we had a great time with your brother going to UVA earlier in the season.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, and last year at the Florida State game.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_00: So let's move on to UVA as they're hosting Duke.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_01: So what do we learn?
1:09:16
SPEAKER_01: Are we laying?
1:09:16
SPEAKER_01: Are we staying away from Tennessee, South Carolina?
1:09:17
SPEAKER_01: We're off it.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_01: Let's stay in the city.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_01: I thought we put them on.
1:09:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh the Duke Blue Devils are going to UVA Friday night light, 7 p.m.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_00: ESPN.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_00: Uh Mike, you are you are the local homer for the Wahoos.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_00: They are stumbling into this game.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_01: What is the line?
1:09:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm pulling I had it.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_01: I had it on a second ago.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_01: I uh it's always blush.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_01: I hit Virginia by by not a hold on a second.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_01: I just had it a second ago.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_01: Excuse me.
1:09:53
SPEAKER_01: Let me riff for a second.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_01: UVA minus one and a half.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_01: Short field.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_01: Uh short, very short line.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_01: What do I think is gonna happen?
1:10:00
SPEAKER_01: Virginia cannot throw the ball, not effectively against teams that really matter.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't think Duke really can as well.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_01: Nate Shepard is an outstanding back for uh uh Duke, who's leaving the nation for a while, and Bopper Buell and that rushing attack has probably been the thing they've relying on.
1:10:14
SPEAKER_01: Um this is a coin flip, but if you know you Virginia, if Virginia wants to go bowling, they probably if they want to have a good, respectable game season, folks feeling good, get to seven wins.
1:10:26
SPEAKER_01: This is one they gotta have because at Wake is gonna be a monster.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_01: Cal it's a really tricky road spot.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_01: Um this not to get an easy win, just have the hookies how they feel.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_01: North Carolina's kind of coming on, and then at Blittsburg the end of the season.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_01: So, like, there is a world where they only get one more win out of this.
1:10:43
SPEAKER_01: So, this is a game that they kind of have to have.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_01: Um, I the way I think it's gonna go is I think both teams are gonna run the ball a lot, and both teams are not gonna tackle very well because that's what I've kind of seen out of both teams.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, who wins?
1:10:55
SPEAKER_01: 47 and a half, fast moving clock.
1:10:59
SPEAKER_01: Give me the wahoos, because you know, that's I'm a homer.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_01: It's what I do, but I don't feel good about either these teams' defenses or either his team's ability to pass the ball.
1:11:08
SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna be a lot of running.
1:11:09
SPEAKER_01: I think both teams are gonna rush for over 150, and um, let's see who can get a stop when it matters.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of where I am.
1:11:16
SPEAKER_00: Rich rich was not Friday night.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh, go ahead, Darren.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'll say the rich, rich people of Las Vegas who light up the the sky with our money.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_03: Um, they say do not bet on the UVA wahoos.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_03: The line opened at minus six and a half for UVA, it's down to one.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_03: The Steam has come in on Duke.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_03: They say do not bet on UVA.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_03: So what is that?
1:11:45
SPEAKER_03: So let's talk about that for let's talk about that first.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_03: We can't bet it, but Duke, the Duke money line is to play here.
1:11:52
SPEAKER_01: I do want to talk about that really quick.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_01: What does that mean?
1:11:54
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, Virginia.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_01: So that's obviously the the the folks in desert saw the Virginia SMU game, which they really did not like.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_01: I watched that game too, I didn't like it either.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_01: And maybe that that means they must be giving Duke some credit for losing tight to North Carolina 24 to 20.
1:12:08
SPEAKER_01: Is that what we that's gotta be the interpretation there?
1:12:11
SPEAKER_01: And that makes sense to me because I actually think the char heels are better than people think.
1:12:15
SPEAKER_01: Y'all have been sayers of nay on the char heels.
1:12:17
SPEAKER_01: I have not.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_01: I've been a I've been in Jordan's quarter from the get-go, so just gonna Jordan.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_00: I I this date this game does look fun, though.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say, like, if it wasn't Friday night in my 16th wedding anniversary, I'd be like, hey, tickets are only 50 bucks.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_00: We should drive up to uh Charlottesville and check out this game.
1:12:37
SPEAKER_02: I said, let's let's go.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_02: Let's take the let's take the kids and go to this game.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_02: I said the exact same thing.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_03: Happy anniversary, buds.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_00: I'll be watching it from my bed.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_00: But you know, no, my Virginia Tech Hokie uh wife would would be frowned upon spending our anniversary in Charlottesville.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_00: Not happening.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh hey, here's another game I want to I want to look at.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh James Madison University, one of the six or seven left undefeated teams in uh college football, and they are going to state Thursday night, 7 p.m.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_00: ESPNU.
1:13:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh JMU guys, hey, I mean, I know we've got Boise State big.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh the next game I have in here, the last game is North Dakota State and New Mexico.
1:13:22
SPEAKER_00: This G6 run for the final spot.
1:13:25
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be pretty, pretty, pretty fun.
1:13:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, that North Dakota State New Mexico game will be huge, but JMU, man, they're looking pretty good.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh getting ready for the American conference.
1:13:37
SPEAKER_00: What are your thoughts on these G6 games?
1:13:39
SPEAKER_01: They just keep they just keep wiping the floor with everybody.
1:13:41
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, Georgia Southern gave them a little bit of skill.
1:13:43
SPEAKER_01: That's a tough spot, 27-24.
1:13:45
SPEAKER_01: Other than that, it's been smooth sailing since Liberty.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_01: App State is in a re is in reload mode.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_01: They are not very good.
1:13:52
SPEAKER_01: They're four and two.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, they've kind of fallen off since their days at top of the uh um G6 ranks.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm I'm not seeing a lot of things I like out of them.
1:14:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm expecting I'm expecting JMU to go in there and and handle them pretty soundly in boon at seven o'clock at night.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_01: I got JMU big.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_01: And just I don't I'm not, I don't think, and I don't think anyone's gonna stop them until the playoff, frankly.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_01: That's not a game that's gonna be.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_01: LaTeX.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_01: LaTeX, who can play defense?
1:14:25
SPEAKER_01: LaTeX has got a good defense, so if they can score some offense, maybe, but it's most likely gonna be LaTeX.
1:14:30
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
1:14:31
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, any thoughts on the North Dakota State?
1:14:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh going to New Mexico.
1:14:37
SPEAKER_00: New Mexico's looked good so far this year.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_00: They have the 21st ranked defense, where North Dakota State has the 19th ranked defense in college football.
1:14:46
SPEAKER_00: Now they're offenses, they're not quite at the same level.
1:14:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, they're really pretty much like some G6 uh offenses, but those defenses are stout.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_00: Over under is 41 and a half, and New Mexico is a four and a half point favorite going into this game.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_01: This is the battle for the mountain.
1:15:03
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, go here and you go first.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, no, you're right.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_03: No, um New Mexico's favorite at home makes perfect sense.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_03: This is basically a coin flip game.
1:15:14
SPEAKER_03: Um New Mexico has this quarterback, Fahave.
1:15:18
SPEAKER_03: I watched him play a little bit, and he is a scrambler, he is a dynamic uh player.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_03: I love to watch to watch that.
1:15:28
SPEAKER_03: So um I don't know, is New Mexico gonna actually put up a lot of points here?
1:15:32
SPEAKER_03: Is the under too low of 41?
1:15:36
SPEAKER_03: North Dakota State has had this one circled, of course.
1:15:39
SPEAKER_03: This is their big their big chance to crack into the we might make the playoff conversation.
1:15:46
SPEAKER_03: Um and so are they gonna bring offense that we haven't seen yet?
1:15:51
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
1:15:51
SPEAKER_03: It seems like a low total for for teams that I've watched this year put up a lot of points.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_03: Uh, and I love New Mexico's quarterback, Fahave.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_03: So this should be a really fun watch.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_02: 19 years old.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm not crazy about what I'm seeing at North Dakota States.
1:16:09
SPEAKER_01: Nathan Hayes on the Belize's quarterbacks.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think he's pretty good, not great.
1:16:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, Jason Eck is the coach I want to back right now.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_01: This is the battle for the North Mountain.
1:16:17
SPEAKER_01: This is the battle for the Mountain West.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_01: The winner of this team, Air Force has already lost Liam Zarka.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_01: I love my friends in Laramie.
1:16:23
SPEAKER_01: This is they're not gonna make a run here.
1:16:25
SPEAKER_01: These are the two best teams uh in the Mountain West.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_01: This is the battle for the conference.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_01: If New Mexico wins this, they're gonna effectively open it.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_01: Well, they'll open a two-game lead over North Dakota State, and I don't think there's gonna be anybody in the conference who's gonna challenge them.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_01: If I was betting on this game, I'd be backing on betting on New Mexico to win and cover.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_01: Really, it's a bet on Jason Eck.
1:16:45
SPEAKER_01: I think that guy is Stratosphere.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_01: I think he's gonna be on the short list for the Rutgers, Baylor, South Carolina, you know, work, Texas.
1:16:57
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_01: Like there's gonna be some big jobs opening up.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_01: I it's they're hard to see right now.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_01: As we know, if you know, if you've been following us in the quick six, um I'm back in Eck on this one.
1:17:07
SPEAKER_01: If I was if I was gonna play, but I don't I don't have a strong feeling.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_00: Mark, do you?
1:17:14
SPEAKER_00: No, not really.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_00: Not really.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm looking up next history just to see where he came from.
1:17:17
SPEAKER_00: A former offensive lineman from Wisconsin.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_00: Spent some time with a grad assistant.
1:17:23
SPEAKER_00: Um Winoda State, big Division II school, where he coached the offensive line.
1:17:28
SPEAKER_00: So he's an O-line coach, spent some time at South Dakota State, won a bunch of games at Idaho before going out to New Mexico.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm I hey, I'm gonna watch the game, I'm gonna enjoy it.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't know that I have a line on it, uh, which way I want to bet, but um no, I definitely wanted to know what you guys thought about this one because these are the teams that are creeping right outside the top 25, and uh they're getting a sniff at that last spot in the playoffs.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_00: So this is gonna be exciting.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_00: This is this is almost a play-in game.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_00: I like it.
1:17:56
SPEAKER_03: We are tailing, if we were tailing the big betters of the world, we would lay points with New Mexico.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_03: It opened at uh it opened at New Mexico three and a half point favorites, which is a a weird line, a line that you don't expect to go in that direction, but it goes to minus four and a half.
1:18:14
SPEAKER_03: You know, money that makes me money came in on laying three and a half, and now four and a half.
1:18:21
SPEAKER_01: That makes me want to bet in New Mexico now.
1:18:23
SPEAKER_01: I say we had this one.
1:18:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, laying laying the home team makes a lot of sense.
1:18:29
SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah.
1:18:30
SPEAKER_03: We love we love you, bison.
1:18:32
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna come to the Fargo Dome.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna come to the Fargo Dome.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna wear our green and gold.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_03: Um but this year, I think the Lobos have the advantage here.
1:18:41
SPEAKER_00: Are we are we at the Lobos?
1:18:43
SPEAKER_00: Are we at the Lobos?
1:18:45
SPEAKER_00: But I'm also gonna make a complimentary bet, whether it's just zoomed in in my face.
1:18:49
SPEAKER_00: Zoom in.
1:18:50
SPEAKER_00: But I I am going to do another bet where I'm actually gonna pick North Dakota State in this one for our Fargo friends.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_00: We have been supported by Fargo.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna go to the Fargo dome someday, and um I'm gonna make one bet in New Mexico, but I'm actually gonna throw another one on North Dakota in our big parlay.
1:19:09
SPEAKER_00: So one of those big parlays will hit.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there we go.
1:19:12
SPEAKER_01: All right, I think we're at we're at eight legs.
1:19:15
SPEAKER_01: We should probably call it quits.
1:19:16
SPEAKER_01: I think we're are we are we all I think we're are we all done?
1:19:19
SPEAKER_01: Get a little excited over here.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_01: Let's review real quick.
1:19:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh Old Miss plus three and a half.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_01: Uh Utah minus five and a half.
1:19:26
SPEAKER_01: Uh Vanderbilt, Kentucky, the over 51 and a half.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_01: Uh Texas and Alabama under 50 and a half, USC at Wisconsin under 49 and a half.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_01: Boise State laying 13.5 at Wazoo.
1:19:39
SPEAKER_01: Arizona hosting Iowa State.
1:19:41
SPEAKER_01: We're laying the nine and a half.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_01: And lastly, North Dakota State at New Mexico, we are laying four and a half.
1:19:47
SPEAKER_01: $10 wins you$1,519.04.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_01: Another good payout coming our way.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_01: This one, I can feel it.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_01: It's coming, boys.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_01: It's coming home.
1:19:59
SPEAKER_01: We're bringing it home.
1:20:00
SPEAKER_01: We're bringing it home.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna replace the English hood on my oh, go ahead.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_01: That's the English as the English say at the World Cup.
1:20:05
SPEAKER_01: It's coming home.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_01: This one, it's coming home.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm already spending the money, guys.
1:20:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna replace the hood on my forerunner.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_00: So excited.
1:20:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:20:13
SPEAKER_01: It's good.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_01: It's important.
1:20:15
SPEAKER_01: That's that is that is important.
1:20:16
SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna put marks on it.
1:20:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:20:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna subsidize the next four birthdays in my house, which are all in the next span of like five weeks.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_01: So I've got like a thousand dollars in gifts to spend anyway.
1:20:25
SPEAKER_01: So that's what that's what this money's gonna be for.
1:20:27
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be buying lots of birthday gifts.
1:20:31
SPEAKER_01: Uh good stuff.