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What Makes a Great Children's Book? ( Key Elements Every Author Should Know) · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 4:44
  Katherine
• 4:45
  Clark
• 4:45
  Phelps,
• 4:46
  author
• 4:46
  of
• 4:47
  Jude's
• 4:47
  Best
• 4:47
  Worst
• 4:48
  Day
• 4:48
  Ever
• 4:49
  and
• 4:49
  most
• 4:49
  recently,
• 4:50
  Katie's
• 4:50
  Journey.
• 4:52
  Thanks,
• 4:52
  Katherine,
• 4:53
  for
• 4:53
  appearing
• 4:53
  on
• 4:54
  the
• 4:54
  Adventures
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  in
• 4:55
  the
• 4:55
  Heart
• 4:55
  of
• 4:55
  Children's
• 4:56
  Book
• 4:56
  Authors
• 4:56
  podcast.
• 4:58
  Katherine
• 4:59
  has
• 4:59
  mentioned
• 4:59
  she's
• 5:00
  written
• 5:00
  several
• 5:00
  children's
• 5:01
  books
• 5:02
  and
• 5:02
  today
• 5:02
  we're
• 5:02
  going
• 5:03
  to
• 5:03
  focus
• 5:03
  on
• 5:03
  her
• 5:04
  book,
• 5:04
  KD's
• 5:05
  Journey,
• 5:05
  and
• 5:05
  I
• 5:05
  look
• 5:06
  forward
• 5:06
  to
• 5:06
  our
• 5:06
  conversation.
• 5:08
  Katherine,
• 5:09
  before
• 5:09
  we
• 5:09
  jump
• 5:10
  in
• 5:11
  and
• 5:11
  get
• 5:11
  into
• 5:11
  the
• 5:11
  details
• 5:12
  of
• 5:12
  your
• 5:12
  book,
• 5:13
  can
• 5:13
  you
• 5:13
  tell
• 5:14
  us
• 5:14
  what
• 5:14
  being
• 5:15
  a
• 5:15
  children's
• 5:16
  book
• 5:16
  author
• 5:16
  means
• 5:17
  to
• 5:17
  you?
• 5:18
  Absolutely.
• 5:19
  Happy
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  to
• 5:19
  do.
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  And
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  also,
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  just
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  really
• 5:20
  quickly,
• 5:21
  thank
• 5:21
  you
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  for
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  having
• 5:22
  me
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  as
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  a
• 5:22
  guest
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  on
• 5:23
  your
• 5:23
  podcast.
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  I'm
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  super
• 5:24
  excited
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  to
• 5:25
  be
• 5:25
  here.
• 5:27
  So
• 5:27
  what
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  does
• 5:27
  it
• 5:27
  mean
• 5:27
  to
• 5:28
  be
• 5:28
  a
• 5:28
  children's
• 5:29
  book
• 5:29
  author?
• 5:29
  As
• 5:30
  I'm
• 5:30
  sure
• 5:31
  many
• 5:31
  authors
• 5:32
  feels
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  like
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  best
• 5:33
  feeling
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  in
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  world
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  and
• 5:34
  it
• 5:34
  means
• 5:34
  the
• 5:34
  world
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  to
• 5:35
  me.
• 5:35
  I'm
• 5:36
  grateful
• 5:36
  for
• 5:36
  the
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  opportunity
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  to
• 5:38
  connect
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  with
• 5:39
  children,
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  to
• 5:40
  connect
• 5:40
  with
• 5:41
  families.
• 5:42
  I'm
• 5:42
  grateful
• 5:43
  for
• 5:43
  the
• 5:43
  opportunity
• 5:44
  to
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  show
• 5:45
  my
• 5:45
  children
• 5:46
  that
• 5:47
  you
• 5:47
  can
• 5:48
  achieve
• 5:48
  your
• 5:48
  dreams,
• 5:49
  you
• 5:49
  can
• 5:49
  achieve
• 5:50
  your
• 5:50
  goals,
• 5:51
  and
• 5:51
  I'm
• 5:51
  grateful
• 5:52
  for
• 5:52
  the
• 5:53
  opportunity
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  to
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  have
• 5:55
  a
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  positive
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  impact
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  on
• 5:56
  other
• 5:56
  people's
• 5:57
  lives.
• 5:57
  So
• 5:58
  it
• 5:58
  really
• 5:58
  does
• 5:58
  mean
• 5:59
  the
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  world.
• 5:59
  To
• 5:59
  me
• 6:00
  because
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  you
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  have
• 6:01
  three
• 6:01
  titles.
• 6:02
  I'm
• 6:02
  curious,
• 6:03
  has
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  it
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  changed
• 6:04
  a
• 6:04
  little
• 6:04
  bit
• 6:05
  from
• 6:05
  your
• 6:05
  first
• 6:05
  book
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  to
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  your
• 6:06
  second
• 6:07
  book
• 6:07
  in
• 6:07
  terms
• 6:08
  of
• 6:08
  of
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  meaning
• 6:08
  of
• 6:09
  being
• 6:09
  a
• 6:09
  children's
• 6:10
  book
• 6:10
  author?
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  think
• 6:12
  so.
• 6:12
  There
• 6:12
  was
• 6:12
  a
• 6:13
  significant
• 6:13
  amount
• 6:14
  of
• 6:14
  excitement
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  and
• 6:15
  thrill
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  with
• 6:16
  the
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  first
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  release.
• 6:17
  It's
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  the
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  first
• 6:18
  children's
• 6:18
  book.
• 6:19
  I
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  remember
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  doing
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  the
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  launch
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  at
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  a
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  local
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  coffee
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  shop
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  and
• 6:23
  having
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  my
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  friends
• 6:24
  and
• 6:25
  even
• 6:25
  people
• 6:26
  that
• 6:26
  I
• 6:26
  had
• 6:26
  just
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  met
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  at
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  the
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  playground
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  or
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  at
• 6:29
  the
• 6:29
  library
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  had
• 6:30
  attended
• 6:30
  the
• 6:31
  launch.
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  And
• 6:32
  that
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  unreal
• 6:33
  feeling
• 6:34
  of
• 6:34
  I
• 6:35
  created
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  something
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  and
• 6:37
  people
• 6:37
  are
• 6:39
  handing
• 6:39
  me
• 6:39
  funds
• 6:40
  to
• 6:41
  buy
• 6:41
  what
• 6:41
  I
• 6:42
  created.
• 6:42
  It
• 6:42
  was
• 6:42
  such
• 6:43
  a
• 6:43
  crazy
• 6:43
  feeling.
• 6:44
  And
• 6:44
  then
• 6:45
  also
• 6:45
  being
• 6:45
  able
• 6:46
  to
• 6:47
  know
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  that
• 6:48
  the
• 6:48
  children
• 6:48
  reading
• 6:48
  this
• 6:49
  book,
• 6:49
  June's
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  Best
• 6:50
  Worst
• 6:51
  Day
• 6:51
  Ever,
• 6:51
  they
• 6:52
  hopefully
• 6:52
  will
• 6:53
  get
• 6:53
  some
• 6:53
  healing.
• 6:54
  They'll
• 6:54
  be
• 6:54
  able
• 6:54
  to
• 6:56
  navigate
• 6:56
  through
• 6:57
  some
• 6:57
  potentially
• 6:58
  tough
• 6:59
  emotions.
• 7:00
  And
• 7:00
  part
• 7:00
  of
• 7:00
  that
• 7:01
  is
• 7:01
  because
• 7:02
  they
• 7:02
  have
• 7:02
  this
• 7:03
  book.
• 7:03
  So
• 7:04
  it
• 7:04
  was
• 7:04
  such
• 7:04
  a
• 7:04
  crazy
• 7:05
  feeling.
• 7:05
  And
• 7:06
  how
• 7:06
  has
• 7:06
  that
• 7:06
  changed
• 7:07
  now
• 7:07
  to
• 7:07
  launching
• 7:08
  Katie's
• 7:08
  Journey?
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  think
• 7:11
  with
• 7:11
  Launching
• 7:11
  Katie's
• 7:12
  Journey,
• 7:13
  this
• 7:13
  book,
• 7:14
  it
• 7:14
  has
• 7:14
  a
• 7:14
  very
• 7:15
  personal
• 7:16
  side
• 7:16
  to
• 7:17
  it.
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  wrote
• 7:17
  it
• 7:18
  partially
• 7:19
  in
• 7:19
  regards
• 7:20
  to
• 7:20
  my
• 7:20
  father
• 7:21
  in
• 7:21
  law
• 7:21
  passing
• 7:22
  away.
• 7:22
  So
• 7:23
  there
• 7:23
  was
• 7:23
  a
• 7:23
  little
• 7:23
  bit
• 7:23
  more
• 7:24
  of
• 7:24
  a
• 7:24
  personal
• 7:25
  connection
• 7:25
  with
• 7:26
  this
• 7:26
  book.
• 7:26
  It's
• 7:26
  still
• 7:27
  excitement,
• 7:28
  still
• 7:28
  hoping
• 7:29
  that
• 7:29
  it'll
• 7:29
  be
• 7:29
  able
• 7:30
  to
• 7:30
  help
• 7:31
  children
• 7:31
  navigate
• 7:32
  some
• 7:32
  of
• 7:32
  those
• 7:32
  tough
• 7:32
  emotions.
• 7:33
  But
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  think
• 7:34
  that
• 7:35
  it
• 7:35
  means
• 7:36
  more
• 7:36
  to
• 7:36
  me
• 7:37
  just
• 7:37
  because
• 7:37
  of
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  connection
• 7:38
  to
• 7:38
  my
• 7:39
  family.
• 7:39
  And
• 7:40
  even
• 7:40
  the
• 7:40
  main
• 7:41
  character's
• 7:41
  name,
• 7:42
  Katie
• 7:43
  is
• 7:43
  a
• 7:43
  take
• 7:43
  on
• 7:44
  Kate
• 7:44
  or
• 7:45
  Katie
• 7:45
  as
• 7:46
  a
• 7:46
  name,
• 7:46
  which
• 7:47
  is
• 7:47
  very
• 7:47
  personal
• 7:47
  to
• 7:48
  me.
• 7:49
  Fantastic.
• 7:50
  And
• 7:51
  you've
• 7:52
  explained
• 7:52
  a
• 7:52
  little
• 7:53
  bit
• 7:53
  about
• 7:53
  the
• 7:53
  inspiration
• 7:54
  behind
• 7:54
  the
• 7:54
  book
• 7:54
  with
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  passing
• 7:55
  of
• 7:56
  your
• 7:56
  father
• 7:56
  in
• 7:56
  law.
• 7:57
  In
• 7:58
  reading
• 7:58
  the
• 7:58
  book,
• 7:58
  I
• 7:59
  know
• 7:59
  there
• 7:59
  was
• 7:59
  a
• 7:59
  special
• 8:00
  relationship
• 8:01
  between
• 8:01
  I
• 8:02
  think
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  main
• 8:02
  character's
• 8:03
  name
• 8:03
  is
• 8:03
  Kira.
• 8:05
  So
• 8:05
  Kira
• 8:05
  is
• 8:05
  the
• 8:06
  little
• 8:06
  girl
• 8:07
  in
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  book
• 8:07
  and
• 8:08
  then
• 8:08
  her
• 8:09
  drawing
• 8:10
  is
• 8:10
  really
• 8:11
  taking
• 8:12
  a
• 8:12
  lot
• 8:12
  of
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  focus
• 8:13
  or
• 8:13
  what
• 8:13
  I
• 8:13
  would
• 8:13
  consider
• 8:14
  is
• 8:14
  the
• 8:15
  main
• 8:15
  character
• 8:15
  and
• 8:16
  Kira's
• 8:17
  drawing,
• 8:17
  or
• 8:17
  Katie
• 8:18
  for
• 8:18
  short.
• 8:19
  And
• 8:20
  Katie
• 8:20
  is.
• 8:21
  It's
• 8:21
  an
• 8:22
  abstract
• 8:23
  a
• 8:23
  little
• 8:23
  bit
• 8:23
  because
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  main
• 8:25
  character
• 8:25
  is
• 8:25
  a
• 8:25
  drawing.
• 8:26
  I'm
• 8:26
  curious,
• 8:27
  did
• 8:27
  your,
• 8:28
  you
• 8:28
  said
• 8:28
  you
• 8:28
  had
• 8:29
  two
• 8:29
  daughters
• 8:30
  and
• 8:31
  so
• 8:31
  did
• 8:31
  they
• 8:31
  have
• 8:32
  a
• 8:32
  relationship
• 8:33
  with
• 8:33
  your
• 8:33
  father
• 8:33
  in
• 8:34
  law
• 8:34
  before
• 8:34
  he
• 8:35
  passed
• 8:35
  away?
• 8:36
  My
• 8:37
  eldest
• 8:37
  daughter
• 8:38
  was
• 8:38
  she
• 8:39
  had
• 8:39
  just
• 8:39
  turned
• 8:39
  two
• 8:40
  years
• 8:40
  old
• 8:40
  when
• 8:41
  my
• 8:41
  father
• 8:41
  in
• 8:41
  law
• 8:41
  passed
• 8:42
  and
• 8:42
  my
• 8:42
  youngest
• 8:43
  daughter
• 8:43
  was
• 8:44
  about
• 8:44
  a
• 8:44
  month
• 8:44
  and
• 8:45
  a
• 8:45
  half.
• 8:45
  So
• 8:46
  unfortunately
• 8:47
  they're
• 8:47
  not
• 8:47
  going
• 8:47
  to
• 8:47
  have
• 8:47
  a
• 8:48
  lot
• 8:48
  of
• 8:48
  memories
• 8:48
  of
• 8:49
  their
• 8:49
  pa,
• 8:50
  their
• 8:50
  grandpapa.
• 8:51
  But
• 8:52
  I'm
• 8:52
  hoping
• 8:52
  that
• 8:53
  they'll
• 8:53
  eventually
• 8:54
  read
• 8:54
  the
• 8:55
  book
• 8:55
  that
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  wrote
• 8:56
  and
• 8:56
  we
• 8:56
  can
• 8:56
  pull
• 8:57
  out
• 8:57
  pictures
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  we
• 8:58
  can
• 8:58
  bring
• 8:58
  up
• 8:58
  stories
• 8:59
  of
• 8:59
  their
• 8:59
  own
• 8:59
  grandpapa
• 9:00
  and
• 9:00
  how
• 9:00
  he
• 9:01
  did
• 9:01
  have
• 9:01
  a
• 9:01
  big
• 9:01
  barrel
• 9:02
  laugh
• 9:02
  and
• 9:02
  how
• 9:03
  he
• 9:03
  was
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  big
• 9:03
  teddy
• 9:04
  bear
• 9:04
  and
• 9:05
  hopefully
• 9:05
  bridge
• 9:06
  that
• 9:06
  gap
• 9:07
  that
• 9:07
  exists,
• 9:08
  unfortunately.
• 9:09
  And
• 9:09
  I
• 9:09
  love
• 9:09
  the
• 9:10
  story.
• 9:10
  And
• 9:11
  I
• 9:11
  had
• 9:11
  said
• 9:12
  to
• 9:12
  Catherine
• 9:12
  through
• 9:13
  an
• 9:13
  email,
• 9:13
  but
• 9:13
  I
• 9:14
  had
• 9:14
  mentioned
• 9:14
  that
• 9:15
  my
• 9:15
  oldest
• 9:16
  granddaughter,
• 9:17
  who's
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  oldest
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  five
• 9:19
  grandchildren
• 9:19
  that
• 9:19
  we
• 9:20
  have,
• 9:20
  she
• 9:21
  and
• 9:21
  I
• 9:21
  have
• 9:22
  a
• 9:22
  special
• 9:22
  relationship
• 9:23
  and
• 9:23
  she
• 9:23
  actually
• 9:24
  co
• 9:25
  authored
• 9:25
  two
• 9:25
  of
• 9:25
  our
• 9:26
  children's
• 9:26
  books
• 9:27
  with
• 9:27
  me
• 9:28
  and
• 9:28
  I've
• 9:29
  had
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  great
• 9:29
  fortune
• 9:30
  to
• 9:30
  grow.
• 9:31
  Either
• 9:31
  I've
• 9:31
  grown
• 9:32
  up
• 9:32
  with
• 9:32
  her
• 9:32
  or
• 9:32
  she's
• 9:33
  grown
• 9:33
  up
• 9:33
  with
• 9:33
  me.
• 9:34
  I'm
• 9:34
  not
• 9:34
  sure
• 9:34
  which
• 9:34
  is
• 9:34
  which.
• 9:35
  But
• 9:36
  it's
• 9:36
  been
• 9:36
  a
• 9:36
  lot
• 9:37
  of
• 9:37
  fun.
• 9:37
  And
• 9:38
  so
• 9:38
  with
• 9:38
  her
• 9:39
  name
• 9:39
  being
• 9:39
  Kira,
• 9:40
  it
• 9:40
  just
• 9:40
  resonates
• 9:41
  with
• 9:41
  me
• 9:42
  a
• 9:42
  bit
• 9:42
  more
• 9:43
  because
• 9:43
  of
• 9:43
  that.
• 9:44
  So
• 9:44
  that's
• 9:45
  why
• 9:45
  I
• 9:45
  was
• 9:45
  curious.
• 9:47
  Katherine,
• 9:47
  with
• 9:48
  you
• 9:48
  having
• 9:48
  three
• 9:48
  titles,
• 9:49
  I
• 9:49
  always
• 9:49
  like
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  talk
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  children's
• 9:51
  book
• 9:51
  authors
• 9:52
  about
• 9:52
  their
• 9:53
  children's
• 9:53
  book
• 9:54
  business.
• 9:55
  So
• 9:55
  can
• 9:55
  you
• 9:55
  tell
• 9:55
  me,
• 9:56
  as
• 9:56
  a
• 9:56
  children's
• 9:57
  book
• 9:57
  author
• 9:57
  of
• 9:57
  three
• 9:58
  books,
• 9:59
  what
• 9:59
  does
• 10:00
  your
• 10:00
  children's
• 10:00
  book
• 10:01
  business
• 10:02
  look
• 10:03
  like?
• 10:04
  I
• 10:04
  was
• 10:04
  very
• 10:05
  fortunate
• 10:05
  and
• 10:06
  blessed
• 10:06
  to
• 10:06
  get
• 10:07
  connected
• 10:08
  with
• 10:08
  a
• 10:09
  publisher
• 10:10
  out
• 10:10
  of
• 10:10
  Wisconsin,
• 10:11
  Inner
• 10:12
  Peace
• 10:12
  Press,
• 10:13
  for
• 10:13
  all
• 10:13
  three
• 10:14
  of
• 10:14
  my
• 10:14
  books.
• 10:15
  There
• 10:15
  is
• 10:15
  a
• 10:15
  woman
• 10:16
  by
• 10:16
  the
• 10:16
  name
• 10:16
  of
• 10:16
  Heather.
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  can't
• 10:17
  be
• 10:18
  grateful
• 10:18
  or
• 10:19
  thankful
• 10:19
  enough
• 10:19
  that
• 10:20
  she
• 10:20
  and
• 10:20
  I
• 10:20
  share
• 10:21
  a
• 10:21
  common
• 10:21
  vision
• 10:22
  and
• 10:22
  goal
• 10:23
  and
• 10:23
  she
• 10:23
  supports
• 10:23
  me
• 10:24
  as
• 10:24
  an
• 10:24
  author
• 10:25
  and
• 10:25
  has
• 10:25
  published
• 10:26
  all
• 10:26
  three
• 10:26
  of
• 10:26
  my
• 10:26
  books.
• 10:27
  A
• 10:27
  fourth
• 10:27
  one
• 10:27
  is
• 10:27
  on
• 10:28
  its
• 10:28
  way,
• 10:28
  Rocky
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  the
• 10:29
  rescue.
• 10:30
  But
• 10:30
  in
• 10:31
  regards
• 10:31
  to
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  business
• 10:31
  model,
• 10:32
  a
• 10:32
  lot
• 10:32
  of
• 10:33
  the
• 10:33
  marketing,
• 10:34
  A
• 10:34
  lot
• 10:34
  of
• 10:34
  the
• 10:35
  events
• 10:36
  are
• 10:36
  me.
• 10:37
  I
• 10:37
  have
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  go
• 10:38
  out
• 10:38
  there
• 10:38
  and
• 10:38
  search
• 10:38
  for
• 10:38
  opportunities.
• 10:39
  I
• 10:40
  don't
• 10:40
  do
• 10:40
  any
• 10:40
  of
• 10:40
  the
• 10:40
  printing,
• 10:41
  I
• 10:41
  don't
• 10:42
  do
• 10:42
  any
• 10:42
  of
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  publishing.
• 10:43
  That's
• 10:43
  all
• 10:43
  done
• 10:43
  by
• 10:44
  Inner
• 10:45
  Peace
• 10:45
  Press.
• 10:46
  But
• 10:46
  in
• 10:46
  regards
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  trying
• 10:47
  to
• 10:49
  market
• 10:49
  and
• 10:50
  sell,
• 10:50
  a
• 10:51
  lot
• 10:51
  of
• 10:51
  that
• 10:51
  is
• 10:52
  on
• 10:52
  me.
• 10:52
  I
• 10:53
  try
• 10:53
  and
• 10:53
  connect
• 10:53
  with
• 10:54
  the
• 10:54
  local
• 10:54
  library.
• 10:55
  I
• 10:56
  try
• 10:56
  and
• 10:56
  find
• 10:57
  opportunities
• 10:58
  to
• 10:58
  connect
• 10:59
  maybe
• 10:59
  with
• 10:59
  like
• 10:59
  mental
• 11:00
  health
• 11:00
  professionals.
• 11:01
  Because
• 11:01
  a
• 11:01
  lot
• 11:01
  of
• 11:01
  my
• 11:01
  books
• 11:02
  I
• 11:02
  think
• 11:02
  would
• 11:02
  be
• 11:03
  really
• 11:03
  helpful
• 11:03
  for
• 11:04
  counselors
• 11:04
  or
• 11:04
  mental
• 11:05
  health
• 11:05
  professionals.
• 11:05
  And
• 11:06
  I'm
• 11:06
  attempting
• 11:07
  to
• 11:07
  connect
• 11:07
  with
• 11:08
  schools
• 11:08
  as
• 11:08
  well.
• 11:09
  Schools,
• 11:09
  counselors
• 11:10
  and
• 11:10
  teachers
• 11:10
  and
• 11:11
  such.
• 11:11
  Because
• 11:12
  that's
• 11:12
  the
• 11:12
  goal.
• 11:13
  That's
• 11:14
  the
• 11:14
  journey
• 11:14
  I'm
• 11:14
  currently
• 11:15
  working
• 11:15
  towards.
• 11:16
  I
• 11:16
  looked
• 11:16
  at
• 11:17
  your
• 11:17
  book
• 11:17
  format,
• 11:18
  I
• 11:18
  noticed
• 11:18
  on
• 11:18
  Amazon
• 11:19
  and
• 11:19
  you
• 11:20
  have
• 11:20
  paperback
• 11:22
  but
• 11:22
  no
• 11:22
  hardcover
• 11:23
  and
• 11:23
  no
• 11:24
  ebook
• 11:25
  version.
• 11:25
  I'm
• 11:25
  curious
• 11:26
  about
• 11:27
  the
• 11:27
  strategy
• 11:28
  behind
• 11:28
  that.
• 11:29
  I
• 11:30
  did
• 11:30
  attempt
• 11:31
  to
• 11:32
  get
• 11:32
  a
• 11:32
  hard
• 11:33
  back
• 11:33
  version
• 11:34
  of
• 11:34
  my
• 11:35
  books
• 11:35
  through
• 11:35
  my
• 11:35
  publisher.
• 11:37
  Unfortunately,
• 11:38
  she
• 11:39
  has
• 11:39
  to
• 11:40
  get
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  original
• 11:41
  illustrator
• 11:42
  to
• 11:42
  redo
• 11:42
  some
• 11:43
  of
• 11:43
  the
• 11:43
  work
• 11:43
  for
• 11:43
  the
• 11:43
  COVID
• 11:43
  because
• 11:44
  I
• 11:44
  guess
• 11:44
  it's
• 11:44
  different
• 11:45
  formatting
• 11:45
  for
• 11:45
  a
• 11:46
  hard
• 11:46
  time
• 11:47
  cover.
• 11:47
  But
• 11:48
  unfortunately
• 11:49
  it's
• 11:49
  just.
• 11:49
  It's
• 11:49
  not
• 11:50
  there
• 11:50
  yet,
• 11:50
  but
• 11:50
  it's
• 11:50
  in
• 11:51
  the
• 11:51
  works.
• 11:51
  It's
• 11:51
  supposed
• 11:51
  to
• 11:52
  be
• 11:52
  coming
• 11:52
  at
• 11:52
  some
• 11:52
  point.
• 11:53
  There
• 11:53
  are
• 11:53
  certain
• 11:54
  libraries
• 11:54
  that
• 11:55
  require
• 11:55
  hardcover
• 11:56
  copies,
• 11:57
  which
• 11:57
  is
• 11:58
  why
• 11:58
  I
• 11:59
  had
• 11:59
  to
• 11:59
  go
• 11:59
  that
• 11:59
  route.
• 12:00
  I
• 12:00
  know
• 12:01
  you
• 12:01
  said
• 12:01
  you're
• 12:02
  working
• 12:02
  on
• 12:03
  formatting
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  hardcover
• 12:05
  and
• 12:05
  the
• 12:06
  ebook
• 12:06
  or
• 12:06
  are
• 12:07
  you
• 12:07
  working
• 12:07
  on
• 12:07
  the
• 12:08
  ebook?
• 12:09
  My
• 12:09
  publisher
• 12:10
  has
• 12:10
  created
• 12:11
  Ezine
• 12:13
  electronic
• 12:13
  copies.
• 12:14
  Okay.
• 12:14
  But
• 12:15
  they're
• 12:15
  not
• 12:15
  for
• 12:15
  sale.
• 12:16
  They're
• 12:16
  more
• 12:16
  for
• 12:17
  teasers
• 12:18
  or
• 12:18
  for
• 12:19
  providing
• 12:20
  copies
• 12:20
  to
• 12:20
  like
• 12:21
  yourself,
• 12:21
  Rick,
• 12:21
  so
• 12:21
  that
• 12:22
  you
• 12:22
  can
• 12:22
  review
• 12:22
  it.
• 12:23
  But
• 12:23
  it's
• 12:24
  not
• 12:24
  available
• 12:24
  for
• 12:25
  sale.
• 12:26
  I
• 12:26
  don't
• 12:26
  know
• 12:26
  if
• 12:26
  that's
• 12:27
  something
• 12:27
  that
• 12:27
  my
• 12:28
  publisher
• 12:28
  is
• 12:28
  going
• 12:29
  to
• 12:29
  do,
• 12:30
  but
• 12:30
  I
• 12:31
  know
• 12:31
  Heather
• 12:31
  is
• 12:32
  trying
• 12:32
  to
• 12:32
  work
• 12:32
  on
• 12:33
  getting
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  hard
• 12:33
  copies
• 12:34
  at
• 12:34
  this
• 12:34
  point.
• 12:35
  No
• 12:35
  problem.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:36
  the
• 12:36
  only
• 12:36
  reason
• 12:37
  I
• 12:37
  bring
• 12:37
  this
• 12:37
  up
• 12:37
  is
• 12:38
  because
• 12:38
  we
• 12:38
  have
• 12:39
  a
• 12:39
  variety
• 12:40
  of
• 12:41
  published
• 12:42
  children's
• 12:42
  book
• 12:42
  authors
• 12:43
  that
• 12:43
  come
• 12:43
  on
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  show.
• 12:44
  Some
• 12:44
  are
• 12:44
  independently
• 12:45
  published,
• 12:46
  which
• 12:47
  means
• 12:47
  that
• 12:48
  you're
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  publisher
• 12:49
  as
• 12:49
  the
• 12:50
  children's
• 12:50
  book
• 12:50
  author
• 12:51
  or
• 12:51
  an
• 12:51
  independently
• 12:52
  published
• 12:53
  book
• 12:54
  authors.
• 12:54
  And
• 12:55
  then
• 12:55
  there's
• 12:56
  people
• 12:56
  like
• 12:56
  yourself
• 12:56
  that
• 12:57
  use
• 12:57
  a
• 12:57
  self
• 12:58
  published
• 12:59
  hybrid
• 13:00
  model.
• 13:01
  And
• 13:01
  then
• 13:01
  there's
• 13:02
  of
• 13:02
  course
• 13:02
  the
• 13:02
  traditional
• 13:03
  publishing
• 13:04
  authors
• 13:05
  where
• 13:05
  they
• 13:05
  get
• 13:06
  a
• 13:06
  publisher
• 13:06
  and
• 13:07
  they
• 13:07
  do
• 13:07
  all
• 13:07
  the
• 13:07
  work
• 13:08
  and
• 13:08
  they
• 13:08
  mostly
• 13:09
  keep
• 13:10
  everything.
• 13:11
  One
• 13:12
  lesson
• 13:12
  that
• 13:12
  we
• 13:12
  learned,
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  I
• 13:13
  guess
• 13:14
  we
• 13:14
  got
• 13:14
  lucky,
• 13:15
  is
• 13:15
  our
• 13:16
  book
• 13:16
  formatter
• 13:17
  on
• 13:17
  episode
• 13:18
  29,
• 13:19
  Con
• 13:19
  Layon.
• 13:20
  And
• 13:20
  he's
• 13:20
  a
• 13:21
  book
• 13:21
  formatter.
• 13:22
  And
• 13:23
  we
• 13:23
  were
• 13:24
  lucky
• 13:24
  because
• 13:24
  he
• 13:24
  knew
• 13:25
  how
• 13:25
  to
• 13:25
  book
• 13:26
  format
• 13:26
  paperback,
• 13:27
  hardcover
• 13:28
  and
• 13:28
  ebook.
• 13:29
  And
• 13:30
  when
• 13:30
  we
• 13:30
  started
• 13:31
  out,
• 13:31
  we
• 13:32
  the
• 13:32
  Hardcover
• 13:33
  was
• 13:34
  going
• 13:34
  to
• 13:34
  be
• 13:34
  more
• 13:34
  money
• 13:35
  because
• 13:35
  to
• 13:35
  your
• 13:36
  point,
• 13:36
  the
• 13:36
  book
• 13:36
  formatting
• 13:37
  was
• 13:37
  different,
• 13:38
  but
• 13:38
  the
• 13:39
  similarities
• 13:39
  between
• 13:40
  the
• 13:40
  print
• 13:41
  and
• 13:41
  the
• 13:41
  ebook
• 13:41
  were
• 13:42
  so
• 13:42
  similar
• 13:43
  that
• 13:43
  we
• 13:43
  did
• 13:44
  both
• 13:44
  of
• 13:44
  those
• 13:44
  exactly
• 13:45
  at
• 13:45
  the
• 13:46
  same
• 13:46
  time.
• 13:46
  So
• 13:46
  when
• 13:47
  we
• 13:47
  launched
• 13:47
  on
• 13:48
  Amazon,
• 13:48
  like
• 13:49
  yourself,
• 13:49
  we
• 13:49
  launched
• 13:50
  with
• 13:50
  a
• 13:51
  paperback
• 13:51
  and
• 13:52
  an
• 13:52
  ebook.
• 13:53
  The
• 13:53
  reason
• 13:53
  I
• 13:54
  bring
• 13:54
  this
• 13:54
  up,
• 13:55
  anyone
• 13:55
  listening,
• 13:56
  is
• 13:56
  that
• 13:57
  if
• 13:57
  you
• 13:57
  can,
• 13:57
  even
• 13:58
  with
• 13:58
  Katherine,
• 13:59
  if
• 13:59
  when
• 14:00
  you're
• 14:00
  working
• 14:00
  with
• 14:00
  a
• 14:01
  hybrid
• 14:01
  or
• 14:01
  self
• 14:02
  publisher,
• 14:03
  talk
• 14:04
  to
• 14:04
  them
• 14:04
  and
• 14:04
  see
• 14:04
  if
• 14:05
  they
• 14:05
  can
• 14:05
  find
• 14:05
  you
• 14:06
  someone
• 14:06
  that's
• 14:08
  familiar
• 14:09
  with
• 14:09
  all
• 14:09
  three
• 14:09
  formats.
• 14:10
  Even
• 14:11
  if
• 14:11
  you
• 14:11
  only
• 14:11
  do
• 14:12
  two
• 14:12
  out
• 14:12
  of
• 14:12
  the
• 14:12
  three
• 14:13
  in
• 14:13
  the
• 14:13
  beginning,
• 14:14
  at
• 14:14
  least
• 14:15
  get
• 14:15
  you
• 14:16
  that
• 14:16
  start
• 14:17
  and
• 14:18
  just
• 14:18
  gives
• 14:18
  you
• 14:18
  more
• 14:18
  options
• 14:19
  on
• 14:20
  products
• 14:21
  you
• 14:21
  have
• 14:21
  to
• 14:21
  offer.
• 14:22
  Are
• 14:22
  you
• 14:23
  also
• 14:23
  selling
• 14:24
  your
• 14:25
  paperback
• 14:26
  through
• 14:26
  ingramsparks?
• 14:28
  I
• 14:28
  believe
• 14:28
  so,
• 14:29
  yeah.
• 14:29
  It's
• 14:29
  ingramsparks.
• 14:30
  It's
• 14:30
  available
• 14:31
  through
• 14:31
  Amazon
• 14:32
  and
• 14:33
  preferably
• 14:33
  through
• 14:34
  either
• 14:34
  my
• 14:34
  website
• 14:35
  or
• 14:35
  innerkeep
• 14:35
  Peace
• 14:36
  Press's.
• 14:36
  Website
• 14:37
  because
• 14:37
  a
• 14:37
  lot
• 14:37
  of
• 14:37
  people
• 14:37
  use
• 14:38
  ingramsparks
• 14:39
  to
• 14:39
  reach
• 14:39
  all
• 14:40
  other
• 14:41
  online
• 14:41
  book
• 14:42
  retailers
• 14:42
  like
• 14:42
  Barnes
• 14:43
  and
• 14:43
  Nobles
• 14:44
  and
• 14:44
  people
• 14:44
  like
• 14:45
  that.
• 14:45
  So
• 14:46
  myself
• 14:46
  and
• 14:47
  Heather
• 14:47
  at
• 14:48
  Inner
• 14:48
  Peace
• 14:48
  Press,
• 14:49
  we
• 14:49
  have
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  greatest
• 14:51
  roi
• 14:52
  when
• 14:52
  you
• 14:52
  purchase
• 14:52
  through
• 14:53
  our
• 14:53
  website
• 14:53
  or
• 14:54
  through
• 14:54
  my
• 14:54
  website
• 14:54
  or
• 14:54
  Inner
• 14:55
  Peace
• 14:55
  Press
• 14:55
  website.
• 14:56
  If
• 14:56
  you
• 14:56
  purchase
• 14:56
  through
• 14:56
  Amazon
• 14:57
  or
• 14:57
  Ingram,
• 14:58
  they
• 14:58
  take
• 14:58
  a
• 14:58
  larger
• 14:59
  amount.
• 14:59
  I'm
• 15:00
  glad
• 15:01
  were
• 15:02
  talking
• 15:03
  about
• 15:03
  publishing
• 15:04
  because
• 15:04
  you
• 15:04
  use
• 15:04
  Inner
• 15:05
  Peace
• 15:05
  Press
• 15:07
  and
• 15:08
  you
• 15:08
  found
• 15:08
  them
• 15:09
  through.
• 15:10
  How
• 15:10
  did
• 15:10
  you
• 15:11
  meet
• 15:11
  Heather?
• 15:12
  It's
• 15:12
  actually
• 15:13
  crazy.
• 15:13
  It's
• 15:14
  an
• 15:14
  interesting
• 15:14
  little
• 15:15
  story.
• 15:15
  When
• 15:15
  I
• 15:15
  first
• 15:16
  started
• 15:17
  this
• 15:17
  journey
• 15:18
  of
• 15:18
  trying
• 15:18
  to
• 15:19
  become
• 15:19
  a
• 15:19
  children's
• 15:20
  book
• 15:20
  author
• 15:20
  and
• 15:20
  trying
• 15:20
  to
• 15:21
  get
• 15:21
  published,
• 15:22
  I
• 15:22
  tried
• 15:23
  to
• 15:23
  find
• 15:24
  an
• 15:24
  agent,
• 15:25
  I
• 15:25
  tried
• 15:25
  to
• 15:25
  find
• 15:26
  a
• 15:26
  publisher,
• 15:27
  I
• 15:28
  looked
• 15:28
  at
• 15:28
  hybrid
• 15:29
  publishing
• 15:30
  options,
• 15:31
  I
• 15:31
  looked
• 15:31
  at
• 15:32
  self
• 15:32
  publishing
• 15:33
  routes
• 15:34
  and
• 15:35
  I
• 15:35
  figured
• 15:36
  if
• 15:36
  I
• 15:37
  just
• 15:37
  start
• 15:38
  putting
• 15:38
  feelers
• 15:39
  out
• 15:39
  trying
• 15:39
  to
• 15:40
  connect
• 15:40
  with
• 15:40
  people,
• 15:40
  if
• 15:41
  nothing
• 15:41
  else,
• 15:41
  get
• 15:42
  information
• 15:42
  so
• 15:42
  that
• 15:43
  I
• 15:43
  can
• 15:43
  learn
• 15:43
  a
• 15:44
  little
• 15:44
  bit
• 15:44
  more,
• 15:44
  it
• 15:44
  would
• 15:44
  be
• 15:45
  helpful.
• 15:46
  So
• 15:46
  I
• 15:46
  went
• 15:47
  on
• 15:47
  to
• 15:47
  a
• 15:48
  search
• 15:48
  engine,
• 15:48
  web
• 15:49
  search
• 15:49
  engine
• 15:49
  and
• 15:50
  started
• 15:50
  looking
• 15:51
  for
• 15:52
  publishers
• 15:52
  and
• 15:53
  Inner
• 15:53
  Peace
• 15:54
  Press
• 15:54
  showed
• 15:55
  up.
• 15:55
  And
• 15:55
  it
• 15:55
  wasn't
• 15:56
  a
• 15:56
  traditional.
• 15:57
  Like
• 15:57
  what?
• 15:58
  Hybrid.
• 15:59
  It
• 15:59
  wasn't
• 15:59
  a
• 15:59
  hybrid
• 16:00
  publisher.
• 16:01
  It's
• 16:01
  just
• 16:01
  a
• 16:01
  small,
• 16:02
  relatively
• 16:03
  new
• 16:03
  publishing
• 16:04
  house
• 16:04
  and
• 16:04
  it's
• 16:05
  run
• 16:05
  by
• 16:06
  Heather
• 16:07
  Felty.
• 16:08
  So
• 16:09
  I
• 16:09
  sent
• 16:10
  a
• 16:10
  request
• 16:11
  to
• 16:11
  meet
• 16:12
  and
• 16:13
  we
• 16:14
  got
• 16:14
  onto
• 16:15
  a
• 16:15
  Zoom
• 16:15
  call
• 16:16
  and
• 16:17
  she
• 16:17
  told
• 16:17
  me
• 16:17
  a
• 16:17
  little
• 16:17
  bit
• 16:18
  about
• 16:18
  her
• 16:18
  publishing
• 16:19
  firm
• 16:19
  and
• 16:20
  the
• 16:20
  history
• 16:20
  that
• 16:21
  she
• 16:21
  has.
• 16:21
  And
• 16:21
  she'd
• 16:22
  never
• 16:22
  really
• 16:22
  done
• 16:22
  children's
• 16:23
  books
• 16:23
  before.
• 16:24
  She
• 16:25
  typically
• 16:25
  done
• 16:26
  memoirs
• 16:27
  and
• 16:28
  books
• 16:29
  on
• 16:29
  various
• 16:30
  different
• 16:30
  self
• 16:30
  help
• 16:31
  type
• 16:31
  of
• 16:33
  books.
• 16:33
  And
• 16:34
  she
• 16:34
  said
• 16:34
  that
• 16:34
  she
• 16:34
  wanted
• 16:35
  to
• 16:35
  take
• 16:35
  a
• 16:35
  chance
• 16:35
  on
• 16:36
  me
• 16:36
  and
• 16:37
  another
• 16:37
  children's
• 16:38
  book
• 16:38
  author
• 16:38
  that
• 16:39
  had
• 16:39
  reached
• 16:39
  out
• 16:39
  that
• 16:39
  week.
• 16:40
  And
• 16:41
  so
• 16:41
  here
• 16:41
  I
• 16:42
  am.
• 16:42
  She
• 16:42
  really
• 16:43
  liked
• 16:43
  the
• 16:43
  message
• 16:43
  that
• 16:43
  I
• 16:44
  had.
• 16:44
  She
• 16:44
  really
• 16:44
  liked
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  goal
• 16:45
  and
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  vision
• 16:46
  that
• 16:46
  I
• 16:46
  have
• 16:46
  of
• 16:46
  positively
• 16:47
  impacting
• 16:48
  children
• 16:48
  and
• 16:48
  families.
• 16:49
  And
• 16:49
  it
• 16:49
  just
• 16:50
  aligned
• 16:50
  perfectly
• 16:51
  with
• 16:51
  inner
• 16:51
  peace
• 16:51
  pressure.
• 16:53
  When
• 16:53
  it
• 16:53
  came
• 16:53
  to
• 16:53
  publishing
• 16:54
  your
• 16:54
  first
• 16:54
  children's
• 16:55
  book,
• 16:56
  what
• 16:56
  was
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  biggest
• 16:57
  challenge
• 16:57
  or
• 16:58
  frustration
• 16:59
  that
• 16:59
  you
• 17:00
  had
• 17:01
  even
• 17:01
  though
• 17:02
  you
• 17:02
  had
• 17:02
  found
• 17:02
  Inner
• 17:03
  Peace
• 17:03
  Press?
• 17:04
  Tell
• 17:04
  us
• 17:04
  about
• 17:05
  the
• 17:05
  biggest
• 17:05
  challenge
• 17:06
  or
• 17:06
  frustration
• 17:07
  that
• 17:07
  you
• 17:08
  had
• 17:08
  when
• 17:08
  you
• 17:08
  first
• 17:08
  started
• 17:09
  to
• 17:09
  publish.
• 17:10
  It's
• 17:11
  a
• 17:11
  silly
• 17:11
  story.
• 17:12
  But
• 17:12
  since
• 17:13
  Heather
• 17:13
  had
• 17:13
  never
• 17:13
  published
• 17:14
  children's
• 17:15
  books
• 17:15
  before,
• 17:16
  she
• 17:16
  was
• 17:17
  learning
• 17:18
  along
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  way
• 17:18
  with
• 17:18
  me.
• 17:19
  And
• 17:19
  one
• 17:19
  of
• 17:20
  the
• 17:20
  exercises
• 17:21
  that
• 17:21
  she
• 17:22
  asked
• 17:22
  me
• 17:22
  to
• 17:22
  complete
• 17:23
  was
• 17:23
  to
• 17:23
  rewrite,
• 17:24
  write
• 17:24
  my
• 17:25
  book
• 17:25
  and
• 17:26
  make
• 17:26
  it
• 17:27
  so
• 17:27
  that
• 17:27
  it
• 17:28
  was
• 17:28
  within
• 17:28
  a
• 17:29
  certain
• 17:29
  rating
• 17:30
  or
• 17:30
  range
• 17:31
  of
• 17:32
  for
• 17:32
  children's
• 17:33
  books
• 17:33
  to
• 17:33
  be
• 17:34
  read
• 17:34
  by
• 17:34
  children.
• 17:35
  Like
• 17:35
  out
• 17:35
  loud
• 17:35
  by
• 17:36
  children.
• 17:36
  I
• 17:36
  forget
• 17:36
  exactly
• 17:37
  what
• 17:37
  the
• 17:37
  rating
• 17:37
  system
• 17:38
  is,
• 17:38
  but
• 17:39
  there
• 17:39
  is
• 17:39
  a
• 17:39
  rating
• 17:39
  system
• 17:40
  that
• 17:40
  basically
• 17:40
  says
• 17:41
  in
• 17:41
  order
• 17:41
  for
• 17:41
  this
• 17:42
  book
• 17:42
  to
• 17:42
  be
• 17:42
  reading
• 17:43
  level
• 17:44
  one,
• 17:44
  it
• 17:45
  needs
• 17:45
  to
• 17:45
  have
• 17:45
  these
• 17:46
  criteria
• 17:47
  now.
• 17:47
  And
• 17:48
  it
• 17:48
  was
• 17:49
  almost
• 17:50
  heart
• 17:50
  wrenching
• 17:51
  because
• 17:51
  I
• 17:51
  had
• 17:51
  to
• 17:51
  take
• 17:52
  my
• 17:52
  book
• 17:52
  apart
• 17:54
  and
• 17:54
  rewrite
• 17:54
  it.
• 17:55
  Yeah,
• 17:55
  in
• 17:55
  a
• 17:56
  way
• 17:56
  that
• 17:56
  really
• 17:57
  wasn't
• 17:58
  my
• 17:58
  goal.
• 17:58
  This
• 17:59
  book
• 17:59
  is
• 17:59
  really
• 17:59
  meant
• 18:00
  for
• 18:00
  an
• 18:00
  adult
• 18:00
  to
• 18:01
  read
• 18:01
  it
• 18:01
  to
• 18:01
  a
• 18:01
  child,
• 18:02
  not
• 18:02
  necessarily
• 18:03
  a
• 18:03
  child
• 18:03
  read
• 18:03
  it
• 18:04
  by
• 18:04
  themselves.
• 18:05
  And
• 18:05
  that
• 18:05
  was
• 18:05
  probably
• 18:06
  the
• 18:06
  most
• 18:06
  frustrating
• 18:06
  part
• 18:07
  because
• 18:07
  it
• 18:07
  was
• 18:07
  a
• 18:07
  good
• 18:08
  exercise.
• 18:08
  It
• 18:08
  taught
• 18:09
  me
• 18:09
  what
• 18:09
  I
• 18:09
  didn't
• 18:09
  want,
• 18:10
  it
• 18:10
  taught
• 18:10
  me
• 18:10
  what
• 18:10
  I
• 18:11
  didn't
• 18:11
  like.
• 18:12
  But
• 18:12
  I
• 18:12
  remember
• 18:13
  rewriting
• 18:14
  it
• 18:14
  and
• 18:14
  going,
• 18:14
  I
• 18:15
  hate
• 18:16
  so
• 18:17
  much
• 18:17
  this
• 18:18
  is
• 18:18
  not
• 18:18
  my
• 18:18
  book
• 18:19
  anymore.
• 18:20
  And
• 18:20
  luckily
• 18:20
  she
• 18:20
  agreed
• 18:21
  it
• 18:21
  wasn't
• 18:22
  really
• 18:22
  what
• 18:22
  she
• 18:22
  wanted
• 18:23
  either.
• 18:23
  So
• 18:23
  it
• 18:24
  was
• 18:24
  a
• 18:24
  good
• 18:24
  exercise
• 18:24
  for
• 18:25
  both
• 18:25
  of
• 18:25
  us,
• 18:25
  but
• 18:26
  it
• 18:26
  was
• 18:26
  very
• 18:26
  frustrating.
• 18:28
  Just
• 18:28
  out
• 18:28
  of
• 18:28
  curiosity,
• 18:29
  how
• 18:29
  old
• 18:29
  are
• 18:29
  your
• 18:29
  daughters
• 18:30
  now?
• 18:31
  5
• 18:32
  and
• 18:32
  3.
• 18:32
  The
• 18:32
  only
• 18:33
  reason
• 18:33
  I
• 18:33
  ask
• 18:33
  you
• 18:34
  is
• 18:34
  because
• 18:34
  I
• 18:34
  had
• 18:35
  mentioned
• 18:35
  that
• 18:35
  I
• 18:36
  co
• 18:36
  authored
• 18:37
  with
• 18:37
  my
• 18:38
  oldest
• 18:38
  granddaughter
• 18:39
  on
• 18:39
  our
• 18:39
  first
• 18:39
  book
• 18:39
  which
• 18:40
  is
• 18:40
  called
• 18:40
  the
• 18:40
  Adventures
• 18:41
  of
• 18:41
  Caboose
• 18:41
  the
• 18:42
  Rocky
• 18:42
  Mountain
• 18:42
  Bear.
• 18:43
  All
• 18:43
  about
• 18:43
  a
• 18:43
  bear.
• 18:44
  And
• 18:45
  Caboose
• 18:45
  starts
• 18:45
  with
• 18:45
  a
• 18:46
  K
• 18:46
  and
• 18:46
  I
• 18:46
  always
• 18:46
  tell
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  story.
• 18:47
  The
• 18:47
  K
• 18:48
  actually
• 18:49
  stands
• 18:49
  for
• 18:49
  Kira
• 18:50
  and
• 18:50
  that's
• 18:51
  why
• 18:51
  Caboose
• 18:51
  has
• 18:51
  got
• 18:52
  a
• 18:52
  K
• 18:53
  and
• 18:53
  her
• 18:53
  and
• 18:53
  I
• 18:54
  wrote
• 18:54
  it
• 18:54
  together.
• 18:55
  She
• 18:55
  certainly
• 18:56
  made
• 18:56
  sure
• 18:57
  that
• 18:57
  the
• 18:57
  language
• 18:58
  we
• 18:58
  used
• 18:58
  was
• 18:59
  age
• 18:59
  appropriate.
• 19:01
  So
• 19:01
  that
• 19:01
  was
• 19:01
  good.
• 19:02
  And
• 19:02
  our
• 19:03
  second
• 19:03
  book
• 19:03
  I
• 19:03
  wrote
• 19:04
  with
• 19:04
  her
• 19:04
  and
• 19:05
  my
• 19:05
  middle
• 19:05
  granddaughter
• 19:06
  Bailey
• 19:07
  called
• 19:07
  Hijinks
• 19:08
  from
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  Big
• 19:08
  Head
• 19:09
  Folk
• 19:09
  Music
• 19:09
  Festival.
• 19:10
  It
• 19:10
  was
• 19:10
  the
• 19:11
  using
• 19:11
  that
• 19:12
  them
• 19:13
  reading
• 19:13
  the
• 19:13
  book
• 19:14
  to
• 19:14
  be
• 19:14
  the
• 19:15
  asset
• 19:15
  test
• 19:16
  for
• 19:16
  the
• 19:17
  readability
• 19:17
  for
• 19:18
  children.
• 19:18
  So
• 19:18
  it
• 19:19
  worked
• 19:19
  out
• 19:19
  great.
• 19:19
  I
• 19:20
  only
• 19:20
  suggest
• 19:20
  that
• 19:21
  with
• 19:21
  you
• 19:21
  moving
• 19:22
  forward,
• 19:22
  especially
• 19:22
  with
• 19:23
  your
• 19:23
  5
• 19:23
  year
• 19:23
  old,
• 19:24
  there's
• 19:24
  a
• 19:24
  good
• 19:24
  chance
• 19:25
  that
• 19:25
  she
• 19:25
  could
• 19:26
  be
• 19:26
  invaluable
• 19:27
  as
• 19:28
  your
• 19:28
  editor.
• 19:29
  Yes,
• 19:30
  absolutely.
• 19:31
  Absolutely.
• 19:31
  Especially
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  think
• 19:32
  as
• 19:32
  my
• 19:33
  girls
• 19:33
  are
• 19:33
  getting
• 19:33
  older,
• 19:34
  I
• 19:34
  might
• 19:34
  be
• 19:34
  Trying
• 19:34
  to
• 19:35
  change
• 19:36
  the
• 19:37
  types
• 19:37
  of
• 19:37
  books
• 19:37
  that
• 19:38
  I'll
• 19:38
  be
• 19:38
  writing
• 19:39
  because
• 19:39
  I
• 19:39
  do
• 19:40
  have
• 19:40
  quite
• 19:40
  a
• 19:40
  few
• 19:40
  ideas.
• 19:41
  I
• 19:41
  actually
• 19:41
  have
• 19:42
  a
• 19:42
  number
• 19:42
  of
• 19:43
  books
• 19:43
  already
• 19:43
  written.
• 19:44
  Just
• 19:45
  working
• 19:45
  through
• 19:45
  the
• 19:45
  process
• 19:46
  of
• 19:46
  editing
• 19:47
  and
• 19:47
  critiquing
• 19:48
  and
• 19:49
  working
• 19:49
  with
• 19:50
  the
• 19:50
  illustrator
• 19:50
  to
• 19:50
  get
• 19:50
  those
• 19:51
  published
• 19:51
  in
• 19:51
  the
• 19:51
  future.
• 19:52
  But
• 19:52
  I
• 19:52
  recently
• 19:53
  came
• 19:53
  up
• 19:53
  with
• 19:53
  an
• 19:54
  idea
• 19:54
  that
• 19:55
  lends
• 19:55
  itself
• 19:56
  more
• 19:56
  to
• 19:56
  maybe
• 19:56
  a
• 19:56
  chapter
• 19:57
  book.
• 19:57
  So
• 19:58
  hopefully
• 19:58
  I'll
• 19:59
  get
• 19:59
  the
• 19:59
  children's
• 20:00
  picture
• 20:00
  books.
• 20:01
  And
• 20:01
  then
• 20:02
  as
• 20:02
  my
• 20:04
  fingers
• 20:04
  crossed,
• 20:04
  fans
• 20:05
  grow
• 20:05
  up,
• 20:06
  I
• 20:06
  have
• 20:07
  older
• 20:08
  age
• 20:08
  range
• 20:09
  book
• 20:09
  options
• 20:10
  for
• 20:10
  them
• 20:10
  to
• 20:11
  continue
• 20:11
  on
• 20:12
  reading
• 20:12
  with
• 20:13
  me
• 20:13
  as
• 20:13
  a
• 20:13
  favorite
• 20:13
  author.
• 20:14
  And
• 20:14
  that's
• 20:15
  a
• 20:15
  good
• 20:15
  point.
• 20:15
  Very
• 20:16
  fortunate
• 20:16
  because
• 20:17
  we
• 20:17
  have
• 20:18
  written
• 20:18
  38
• 20:19
  stories
• 20:19
  in
• 20:20
  our
• 20:20
  book
• 20:20
  series,
• 20:21
  Adventures
• 20:21
  of
• 20:22
  Caboose,
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  Rocky
• 20:23
  Mountain
• 20:23
  Bear,
• 20:23
  and
• 20:24
  they've
• 20:25
  all
• 20:25
  been
• 20:25
  written
• 20:25
  with
• 20:26
  all
• 20:26
  five
• 20:26
  of
• 20:26
  my
• 20:27
  grandchildren.
• 20:27
  So
• 20:28
  it's
• 20:29
  nice
• 20:29
  because
• 20:30
  I
• 20:30
  got
• 20:30
  their
• 20:31
  young
• 20:31
  voices
• 20:32
  and
• 20:32
  we
• 20:32
  recorded
• 20:33
  about
• 20:33
  half
• 20:34
  of
• 20:34
  the
• 20:34
  stories.
• 20:35
  So
• 20:35
  I've
• 20:35
  got
• 20:36
  their
• 20:36
  young
• 20:36
  voices
• 20:37
  before.
• 20:37
  As
• 20:37
  you
• 20:37
  said,
• 20:38
  they
• 20:38
  get
• 20:38
  older
• 20:39
  and
• 20:39
  then
• 20:40
  you
• 20:40
  lose
• 20:40
  that
• 20:41
  resource.
• 20:42
  So
• 20:43
  good
• 20:43
  for
• 20:43
  you.
• 20:44
  I
• 20:44
  want
• 20:44
  to
• 20:44
  talk
• 20:44
  to
• 20:45
  you
• 20:45
  about
• 20:45
  the
• 20:46
  illustration
• 20:47
  process
• 20:48
  because
• 20:49
  especially
• 20:49
  when
• 20:50
  it
• 20:50
  comes
• 20:50
  to
• 20:51
  whether
• 20:51
  you
• 20:51
  want
• 20:51
  to
• 20:52
  call
• 20:52
  it
• 20:52
  self
• 20:52
  published
• 20:52
  or
• 20:53
  hybrid
• 20:53
  published,
• 20:54
  when
• 20:54
  you
• 20:55
  use
• 20:55
  a
• 20:55
  separate
• 20:56
  publishing
• 20:57
  company,
• 20:57
  a
• 20:57
  lot
• 20:58
  of
• 20:58
  times
• 20:58
  they're
• 20:59
  the
• 20:59
  ones
• 20:59
  that
• 21:00
  give
• 21:00
  you
• 21:01
  a
• 21:02
  selection
• 21:02
  of
• 21:02
  illustrators
• 21:03
  to
• 21:03
  choose
• 21:04
  from,
• 21:04
  but
• 21:05
  you
• 21:05
  make
• 21:05
  the
• 21:05
  final
• 21:06
  decision.
• 21:06
  So
• 21:07
  talk
• 21:07
  to
• 21:07
  us
• 21:08
  about
• 21:08
  the
• 21:08
  illustrator
• 21:09
  or
• 21:09
  illustrators
• 21:11
  and
• 21:11
  about
• 21:11
  that
• 21:12
  journey.
• 21:13
  Yeah,
• 21:13
  absolutely.
• 21:14
  Inner
• 21:14
  Peace
• 21:15
  Press
• 21:15
  so
• 21:16
  far
• 21:16
  has
• 21:17
  pretty
• 21:18
  much
• 21:18
  stuck
• 21:18
  with
• 21:18
  a
• 21:18
  single
• 21:19
  illustrator.
• 21:20
  He
• 21:20
  does
• 21:20
  fantastic
• 21:21
  work.
• 21:21
  His
• 21:21
  name
• 21:22
  is
• 21:22
  Marvin.
• 21:23
  And
• 21:23
  I've
• 21:24
  never
• 21:24
  actually
• 21:25
  connected
• 21:25
  with
• 21:25
  him
• 21:26
  directly.
• 21:26
  I've
• 21:27
  always
• 21:27
  connected
• 21:28
  with
• 21:28
  him
• 21:28
  through
• 21:29
  Heather
• 21:30
  over
• 21:30
  at
• 21:30
  Interpeace
• 21:31
  Press.
• 21:31
  But
• 21:31
  he
• 21:31
  does
• 21:32
  phenomenal
• 21:33
  work.
• 21:33
  He
• 21:33
  has
• 21:33
  different
• 21:34
  styles
• 21:34
  that
• 21:34
  he
• 21:34
  can
• 21:35
  offer.
• 21:36
  So
• 21:37
  I
• 21:37
  didn't
• 21:37
  really
• 21:37
  get
• 21:37
  to
• 21:37
  pick
• 21:38
  and
• 21:38
  choose
• 21:38
  from
• 21:38
  illustrators,
• 21:39
  but
• 21:39
  I
• 21:39
  did
• 21:40
  get
• 21:40
  to
• 21:40
  pick
• 21:40
  and
• 21:40
  choose
• 21:41
  from
• 21:41
  different
• 21:42
  styles
• 21:42
  that
• 21:42
  he
• 21:43
  could
• 21:43
  provide
• 21:44
  for
• 21:45
  the
• 21:45
  different
• 21:46
  books
• 21:46
  that
• 21:46
  I
• 21:46
  have.
• 21:47
  Which
• 21:47
  is
• 21:47
  fantastic
• 21:48
  because
• 21:48
  in
• 21:49
  Jude's
• 21:50
  Best
• 21:50
  Worst
• 21:50
  Day
• 21:50
  Ever,
• 21:51
  it's
• 21:51
  much
• 21:52
  more
• 21:52
  realistic
• 21:53
  illustrations.
• 21:54
  Whereas
• 21:54
  Tina
• 21:55
  in
• 21:55
  the
• 21:55
  Mysterious
• 21:55
  Case
• 21:56
  of
• 21:56
  Danzitis
• 21:56
  is
• 21:57
  a
• 21:57
  little
• 21:57
  more
• 21:57
  whimsical,
• 21:58
  a
• 21:58
  little
• 21:58
  more
• 21:59
  comical.
• 22:00
  So
• 22:00
  the
• 22:00
  style
• 22:01
  has
• 22:01
  changed
• 22:02
  for
• 22:02
  each
• 22:03
  of
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  different
• 22:03
  books,
• 22:04
  even
• 22:04
  though
• 22:04
  it's
• 22:04
  the
• 22:04
  same
• 22:05
  illustrator.
• 22:06
  And
• 22:06
  he's
• 22:07
  really
• 22:07
  phenomenal
• 22:07
  at
• 22:08
  what
• 22:08
  he
• 22:08
  does.
• 22:08
  And
• 22:09
  since
• 22:10
  we've
• 22:10
  used
• 22:10
  him
• 22:11
  consistently,
• 22:12
  he's
• 22:13
  starting
• 22:13
  to
• 22:13
  get
• 22:13
  a
• 22:14
  feel
• 22:14
  for
• 22:15
  what
• 22:15
  I
• 22:15
  like,
• 22:15
  what
• 22:16
  I
• 22:16
  don't
• 22:16
  like.
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  can
• 22:17
  write
• 22:18
  notes
• 22:19
  and
• 22:19
  provide
• 22:20
  what
• 22:20
  he
• 22:21
  needs
• 22:21
  so
• 22:22
  he
• 22:22
  can
• 22:22
  do
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  illustrations
• 22:23
  faster
• 22:24
  than
• 22:24
  when
• 22:24
  we
• 22:24
  first
• 22:25
  began.
• 22:25
  So
• 22:25
  that
• 22:26
  relationship
• 22:27
  has
• 22:27
  been
• 22:28
  fantastic
• 22:28
  to
• 22:29
  grow
• 22:30
  between
• 22:30
  the
• 22:30
  two
• 22:30
  of
• 22:31
  us
• 22:31
  through
• 22:31
  Heather,
• 22:31
  through
• 22:32
  Inner
• 22:32
  Peace
• 22:32
  Press,
• 22:33
  as
• 22:34
  he
• 22:34
  continues
• 22:35
  to
• 22:35
  provide
• 22:35
  phenomenal
• 22:36
  work
• 22:36
  for
• 22:36
  the
• 22:36
  books
• 22:37
  that
• 22:37
  I've
• 22:37
  gotten
• 22:37
  that's
• 22:38
  published.
• 22:39
  I've
• 22:39
  talked
• 22:40
  to
• 22:40
  several
• 22:41
  children's
• 22:42
  book
• 22:42
  authors
• 22:42
  who
• 22:43
  have.
• 22:44
  Like,
• 22:44
  in
• 22:44
  our
• 22:45
  case,
• 22:45
  we've
• 22:45
  written
• 22:46
  a
• 22:46
  book
• 22:46
  series,
• 22:47
  and
• 22:48
  we
• 22:49
  want
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  feel
• 22:50
  and
• 22:50
  the
• 22:50
  look
• 22:50
  to
• 22:50
  be
• 22:52
  very
• 22:52
  similar
• 22:52
  in
• 22:53
  every
• 22:53
  single
• 22:54
  book.
• 22:54
  Versus,
• 22:55
  like
• 22:56
  you
• 22:56
  said,
• 22:56
  when
• 22:56
  you
• 22:56
  write
• 22:57
  three
• 22:57
  different
• 22:58
  types
• 22:58
  of
• 22:58
  stories,
• 22:59
  you
• 23:00
  were
• 23:00
  looking
• 23:00
  for
• 23:00
  the
• 23:01
  illustrator
• 23:01
  to
• 23:01
  change
• 23:02
  it
• 23:02
  up
• 23:02
  a
• 23:02
  bit
• 23:03
  in
• 23:03
  most
• 23:03
  cases,
• 23:04
  what
• 23:04
  I
• 23:04
  found,
• 23:05
  and
• 23:05
  actually
• 23:05
  you're
• 23:06
  the
• 23:06
  first
• 23:06
  one
• 23:06
  to
• 23:06
  say,
• 23:07
  almost
• 23:07
  everyone
• 23:08
  except
• 23:08
  for
• 23:08
  you
• 23:08
  has
• 23:09
  said
• 23:09
  to
• 23:09
  me,
• 23:10
  oh,
• 23:10
  I
• 23:10
  had
• 23:10
  to
• 23:10
  go
• 23:10
  out
• 23:11
  and
• 23:11
  find
• 23:11
  a
• 23:11
  different
• 23:11
  illustrator.
• 23:12
  Because
• 23:12
  I
• 23:12
  always
• 23:13
  ask,
• 23:13
  why
• 23:13
  did
• 23:14
  you
• 23:14
  change
• 23:14
  illustrators?
• 23:15
  Sometimes
• 23:16
  it's
• 23:16
  because
• 23:16
  the
• 23:16
  illustrator
• 23:17
  disappeared
• 23:18
  and
• 23:18
  they
• 23:19
  couldn't
• 23:19
  find
• 23:19
  them
• 23:19
  again,
• 23:20
  and
• 23:20
  sometimes
• 23:21
  it
• 23:21
  was
• 23:21
  because
• 23:22
  they
• 23:23
  weren't
• 23:23
  prepared
• 23:24
  to
• 23:24
  change
• 23:24
  their
• 23:25
  style.
• 23:25
  The
• 23:25
  illustrator
• 23:26
  had
• 23:26
  one
• 23:26
  type
• 23:27
  of
• 23:27
  style
• 23:27
  and
• 23:27
  they
• 23:27
  weren't
• 23:28
  prepared
• 23:28
  to
• 23:28
  change
• 23:29
  that.
• 23:29
  It's
• 23:30
  neat
• 23:30
  that
• 23:30
  you
• 23:30
  found
• 23:31
  someone
• 23:31
  that
• 23:32
  has
• 23:32
  that
• 23:32
  diversity
• 23:33
  to
• 23:34
  change
• 23:34
  up
• 23:34
  the
• 23:35
  illustrating
• 23:36
  style,
• 23:37
  because
• 23:37
  that's.
• 23:37
  That's
• 23:37
  a
• 23:38
  very
• 23:38
  difficult
• 23:38
  thing
• 23:39
  to
• 23:39
  do.
• 23:39
  I've
• 23:39
  even
• 23:40
  talked
• 23:40
  to
• 23:41
  children's
• 23:41
  book
• 23:41
  authors
• 23:42
  who
• 23:42
  are
• 23:42
  actually
• 23:43
  their
• 23:43
  illustrator,
• 23:44
  and
• 23:44
  they
• 23:45
  said
• 23:45
  the
• 23:45
  most
• 23:45
  difficult
• 23:46
  thing
• 23:46
  they
• 23:46
  have
• 23:46
  to
• 23:47
  do
• 23:47
  as
• 23:48
  their
• 23:48
  own
• 23:48
  illustrator
• 23:49
  is
• 23:49
  to
• 23:49
  keep
• 23:50
  continuity
• 23:51
  of
• 23:51
  their
• 23:52
  characters
• 23:52
  and
• 23:53
  the
• 23:53
  illustrations
• 23:54
  as
• 23:54
  they
• 23:55
  illustrate
• 23:55
  the
• 23:56
  book.
• 23:56
  So
• 23:57
  that's
• 23:57
  fantastic.
• 23:59
  I
• 23:59
  think
• 23:59
  I
• 23:59
  was
• 23:59
  just
• 23:59
  listening
• 24:00
  to
• 24:00
  one
• 24:00
  of
• 24:00
  your
• 24:00
  podcasts
• 24:01
  with
• 24:01
  another
• 24:01
  author
• 24:02
  who's
• 24:02
  an
• 24:02
  author
• 24:03
  illustrator,
• 24:03
  and
• 24:04
  you
• 24:04
  guys
• 24:04
  did
• 24:04
  a
• 24:04
  great
• 24:05
  job
• 24:05
  of
• 24:05
  discussing
• 24:06
  that
• 24:06
  particular
• 24:07
  challenge
• 24:07
  and
• 24:07
  struggle.
• 24:08
  So
• 24:08
  that
• 24:08
  was
• 24:08
  a
• 24:09
  good
• 24:09
  one.
• 24:09
  Thank
• 24:09
  you.
• 24:10
  I
• 24:10
  appreciate
• 24:10
  that
• 24:12
  with
• 24:12
  the
• 24:13
  illustrator.
• 24:14
  Now
• 24:14
  that
• 24:14
  you've
• 24:14
  mentioned
• 24:15
  you're
• 24:15
  going
• 24:15
  to
• 24:15
  be
• 24:16
  launching,
• 24:16
  you
• 24:17
  said
• 24:17
  Rocky?
• 24:19
  Yeah,
• 24:19
  Rocky
• 24:19
  to
• 24:19
  the
• 24:20
  Rescue.
• 24:20
  I'm
• 24:20
  not
• 24:20
  entirely
• 24:21
  fully
• 24:22
  sold
• 24:22
  on
• 24:22
  the
• 24:23
  title
• 24:23
  yet.
• 24:23
  It's
• 24:24
  Rocky
• 24:24
  to
• 24:24
  the
• 24:24
  Rescue.
• 24:26
  It's
• 24:26
  basically
• 24:26
  about
• 24:26
  a
• 24:27
  character
• 24:27
  named
• 24:27
  Rocky
• 24:27
  Knickerbocker.
• 24:28
  I
• 24:29
  love
• 24:29
  Rocky
• 24:29
  because
• 24:29
  my
• 24:30
  dad
• 24:30
  had
• 24:30
  a
• 24:31
  nickname
• 24:31
  for
• 24:31
  me.
• 24:31
  He
• 24:31
  used
• 24:32
  to
• 24:32
  always
• 24:32
  call
• 24:32
  me
• 24:32
  Rocky.
• 24:34
  Those
• 24:34
  connections.
• 24:35
  Those
• 24:35
  little
• 24:36
  connections.
• 24:36
  Exactly.
• 24:38
  So
• 24:38
  I
• 24:38
  want
• 24:39
  to
• 24:39
  jump
• 24:39
  into
• 24:39
  your
• 24:40
  website
• 24:41
  development
• 24:41
  for
• 24:42
  a
• 24:42
  moment,
• 24:42
  and
• 24:43
  you
• 24:43
  have
• 24:43
  a
• 24:43
  great
• 24:43
  website.
• 24:44
  I
• 24:44
  have
• 24:44
  it
• 24:44
  actually
• 24:45
  up
• 24:45
  on
• 24:45
  my
• 24:45
  iPad
• 24:46
  here.
• 24:46
  And
• 24:47
  can
• 24:48
  you
• 24:48
  explain
• 24:48
  to
• 24:49
  us
• 24:49
  your
• 24:50
  whole
• 24:50
  development
• 24:51
  of
• 24:51
  your
• 24:51
  website?
• 24:53
  Yeah.
• 24:53
  So
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  actually
• 24:54
  have
• 24:54
  a
• 24:54
  little
• 24:55
  bit
• 24:55
  of
• 24:55
  a
• 24:55
  technical
• 24:55
  background.
• 24:56
  Before
• 24:57
  I
• 24:57
  took
• 24:58
  this
• 24:58
  journey
• 24:58
  to
• 24:59
  be
• 24:59
  a
• 24:59
  children's
• 25:00
  book
• 25:00
  author,
• 25:01
  I
• 25:01
  was
• 25:01
  a
• 25:01
  technical
• 25:02
  director
• 25:03
  for
• 25:03
  Engineering's
• 25:04
  software
• 25:05
  technical
• 25:06
  support
• 25:06
  team,
• 25:07
  and
• 25:07
  I
• 25:08
  had
• 25:08
  a
• 25:09
  kind
• 25:09
  of
• 25:09
  techy
• 25:10
  background.
• 25:10
  So
• 25:11
  when
• 25:11
  Heather
• 25:11
  over
• 25:12
  at
• 25:12
  Inner
• 25:12
  Peace
• 25:12
  Press
• 25:13
  said
• 25:13
  that
• 25:13
  either
• 25:14
  she
• 25:14
  could
• 25:14
  develop
• 25:15
  the
• 25:15
  website
• 25:15
  or
• 25:16
  she
• 25:16
  could
• 25:16
  give
• 25:16
  me
• 25:16
  access
• 25:17
  to
• 25:17
  WordPress
• 25:18
  and
• 25:18
  I
• 25:18
  could
• 25:18
  figure
• 25:19
  it
• 25:19
  out
• 25:19
  on
• 25:19
  my
• 25:19
  own,
• 25:19
  I
• 25:20
  said,
• 25:20
  I
• 25:20
  like
• 25:20
  a
• 25:20
  challenge.
• 25:22
  So
• 25:23
  I
• 25:23
  went
• 25:24
  ahead
• 25:24
  and
• 25:24
  built
• 25:24
  the
• 25:25
  website.
• 25:25
  I
• 25:25
  looked
• 25:26
  at
• 25:26
  tutorials
• 25:27
  and
• 25:28
  basically
• 25:29
  beat
• 25:29
  my
• 25:29
  head
• 25:29
  against
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  wall
• 25:30
  a
• 25:30
  couple
• 25:30
  of
• 25:30
  times.
• 25:30
  But
• 25:31
  I
• 25:31
  was
• 25:31
  able
• 25:31
  to
• 25:32
  create
• 25:32
  what
• 25:33
  I
• 25:33
  think
• 25:33
  is
• 25:33
  a
• 25:34
  pretty
• 25:35
  efficient,
• 25:36
  functional,
• 25:37
  decent
• 25:37
  looking
• 25:37
  website.
• 25:38
  Absolutely.
• 25:39
  Your
• 25:39
  website
• 25:39
  and
• 25:40
  the
• 25:40
  launch
• 25:40
  of
• 25:41
  your
• 25:41
  first
• 25:41
  book
• 25:42
  were
• 25:42
  done
• 25:43
  in
• 25:43
  conjunction
• 25:43
  with
• 25:44
  each
• 25:44
  other?
• 25:45
  Yes.
• 25:45
  My
• 25:46
  first
• 25:46
  book
• 25:46
  was
• 25:46
  released
• 25:47
  in
• 25:47
  November
• 25:47
  of
• 25:48
  2024
• 25:49
  and
• 25:49
  it's
• 25:49
  crazy
• 25:50
  to
• 25:50
  say
• 25:50
  right
• 25:50
  now
• 25:51
  considering
• 25:52
  it's
• 25:52
  2026
• 25:53
  and
• 25:53
  right
• 25:54
  around
• 25:54
  that
• 25:55
  fall
• 25:56
  time
• 25:56
  frame
• 25:56
  of
• 25:57
  2024
• 25:58
  was
• 25:58
  when
• 25:59
  I
• 25:59
  launched
• 26:00
  my
• 26:00
  website.
• 26:01
  So
• 26:01
  I
• 26:02
  wanted
• 26:02
  to
• 26:02
  have
• 26:02
  it
• 26:03
  up
• 26:03
  and
• 26:04
  functional
• 26:05
  so
• 26:05
  that
• 26:05
  once
• 26:05
  the
• 26:06
  first
• 26:07
  book
• 26:07
  was
• 26:07
  published,
• 26:08
  people
• 26:08
  could
• 26:08
  find
• 26:09
  my
• 26:09
  website
• 26:09
  and
• 26:10
  purchase
• 26:10
  the
• 26:10
  book
• 26:10
  from
• 26:11
  there
• 26:11
  and
• 26:11
  also
• 26:12
  be
• 26:13
  able
• 26:13
  to
• 26:13
  navigate
• 26:13
  there
• 26:14
  to
• 26:14
  find
• 26:14
  out
• 26:14
  where
• 26:15
  am
• 26:15
  I
• 26:15
  going
• 26:15
  to
• 26:15
  be,
• 26:16
  are
• 26:16
  there
• 26:16
  going
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  be
• 26:17
  any
• 26:17
  events
• 26:18
  that
• 26:18
  I'll
• 26:19
  be
• 26:19
  attending
• 26:20
  and
• 26:20
  just
• 26:20
  get
• 26:20
  some
• 26:21
  information
• 26:21
  out.
• 26:22
  I
• 26:22
  was
• 26:22
  encouraged
• 26:23
  to
• 26:23
  blog.
• 26:24
  I'm
• 26:24
  not
• 26:25
  great
• 26:25
  at
• 26:25
  blogging,
• 26:27
  but
• 26:27
  I'm
• 26:28
  attempting
• 26:28
  to
• 26:28
  do
• 26:29
  that
• 26:29
  a
• 26:29
  little
• 26:29
  bit
• 26:29
  more
• 26:30
  frequently
• 26:31
  than
• 26:31
  I
• 26:31
  have
• 26:31
  in
• 26:31
  the
• 26:31
  past.
• 26:32
  But
• 26:32
  it
• 26:32
  just
• 26:33
  doesn't
• 26:33
  come
• 26:33
  naturally
• 26:34
  to
• 26:34
  me
• 26:34
  I
• 26:35
  think,
• 26:35
  which
• 26:35
  is
• 26:35
  strange.
• 26:36
  Being
• 26:36
  a
• 26:36
  writer,
• 26:37
  it
• 26:37
  is
• 26:37
  interesting.
• 26:38
  But
• 26:38
  I
• 26:38
  found
• 26:39
  the
• 26:39
  same
• 26:39
  thing.
• 26:39
  First
• 26:40
  of
• 26:40
  all,
• 26:40
  we
• 26:41
  didn't
• 26:41
  launch
• 26:42
  our
• 26:42
  website
• 26:43
  until
• 26:43
  after
• 26:44
  we
• 26:44
  launched
• 26:44
  our
• 26:44
  first
• 26:45
  book.
• 26:46
  And
• 26:46
  I
• 26:46
  didn't
• 26:47
  even
• 26:47
  realize
• 26:48
  because
• 26:48
  being
• 26:48
  an
• 26:49
  independent
• 26:49
  children's
• 26:50
  book
• 26:50
  author,
• 26:50
  I
• 26:51
  just
• 26:51
  thought,
• 26:51
  you
• 26:51
  know
• 26:52
  what,
• 26:52
  I'll
• 26:52
  come
• 26:52
  up
• 26:53
  with
• 26:53
  the
• 26:53
  link
• 26:54
  to
• 26:54
  Amazon
• 26:55
  and
• 26:57
  that's
• 26:57
  good
• 26:57
  enough.
• 26:58
  That
• 26:58
  wasn't
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  case.
• 26:59
  The
• 26:59
  positive
• 27:00
  thing,
• 27:00
  because
• 27:00
  we
• 27:01
  have
• 27:01
  a
• 27:01
  book
• 27:01
  series,
• 27:02
  we
• 27:03
  were
• 27:03
  able
• 27:03
  to
• 27:03
  take
• 27:03
  some
• 27:03
  of
• 27:04
  the
• 27:04
  artwork
• 27:04
  and
• 27:05
  incorporate
• 27:06
  it
• 27:07
  into
• 27:07
  our
• 27:07
  website.
• 27:08
  The
• 27:08
  website
• 27:09
  looks
• 27:09
  like
• 27:09
  I
• 27:09
  want
• 27:10
  it
• 27:10
  to
• 27:10
  look
• 27:10
  in
• 27:10
  terms
• 27:11
  of
• 27:11
  how
• 27:12
  it
• 27:12
  supports
• 27:12
  the
• 27:13
  book
• 27:14
  series.
• 27:14
  We
• 27:15
  were
• 27:15
  fortunate
• 27:15
  that
• 27:15
  way.
• 27:16
  But
• 27:16
  at
• 27:16
  the
• 27:17
  end
• 27:17
  of
• 27:17
  the
• 27:17
  day
• 27:18
  you
• 27:18
  definitely
• 27:18
  need
• 27:19
  a
• 27:19
  home
• 27:19
  for
• 27:19
  your
• 27:20
  books
• 27:21
  and
• 27:21
  especially
• 27:22
  when
• 27:22
  it's
• 27:22
  get
• 27:22
  when
• 27:23
  you
• 27:23
  start
• 27:23
  growing
• 27:23
  like
• 27:24
  yourself
• 27:25
  and
• 27:25
  getting
• 27:25
  into
• 27:26
  multiple
• 27:26
  titles.
• 27:28
  I
• 27:28
  will
• 27:28
  say
• 27:28
  when
• 27:28
  it
• 27:29
  comes
• 27:29
  to
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  websites,
• 27:30
  something
• 27:30
  that
• 27:31
  I
• 27:31
  think
• 27:31
  is
• 27:31
  really
• 27:31
  important
• 27:32
  is
• 27:33
  keeping
• 27:33
  it
• 27:33
  current,
• 27:34
  keeping
• 27:34
  it
• 27:34
  updated.
• 27:35
  I've
• 27:36
  gone
• 27:36
  to
• 27:36
  other
• 27:37
  authors
• 27:37
  websites
• 27:38
  and
• 27:39
  there's
• 27:39
  no
• 27:39
  recent
• 27:40
  events,
• 27:40
  there's
• 27:41
  no
• 27:41
  new
• 27:41
  updates,
• 27:42
  there's
• 27:43
  very
• 27:43
  little
• 27:43
  information
• 27:44
  that
• 27:44
  shows
• 27:45
  that
• 27:45
  it's
• 27:45
  an
• 27:45
  active
• 27:46
  updated
• 27:47
  platform.
• 27:48
  Right.
• 27:48
  So
• 27:49
  I
• 27:49
  think
• 27:49
  if
• 27:49
  you
• 27:49
  are
• 27:50
  going
• 27:50
  to
• 27:51
  have
• 27:51
  a
• 27:51
  website,
• 27:51
  it's
• 27:52
  important
• 27:52
  that
• 27:53
  you
• 27:53
  put
• 27:54
  pictures,
• 27:54
  you
• 27:54
  put
• 27:55
  blobs
• 27:55
  of
• 27:56
  information.
• 27:57
  You
• 27:57
  could
• 27:57
  do
• 27:57
  a
• 27:57
  blog,
• 27:58
  you
• 27:58
  could
• 27:58
  do
• 27:58
  a
• 27:58
  hey,
• 27:59
  here's
• 27:59
  where
• 27:59
  I'm
• 27:59
  going
• 27:59
  to
• 27:59
  be,
• 28:00
  here's
• 28:00
  where
• 28:00
  I
• 28:00
  was.
• 28:01
  Thank
• 28:01
  you
• 28:01
  so
• 28:01
  much
• 28:02
  so
• 28:02
  and
• 28:02
  so
• 28:02
  for
• 28:02
  having
• 28:03
  me.
• 28:03
  Blah
• 28:03
  blah,
• 28:03
  blah,
• 28:04
  blah
• 28:04
  blah.
• 28:04
  Otherwise
• 28:05
  it's
• 28:06
  not
• 28:06
  as
• 28:06
  effective.
• 28:07
  I
• 28:07
  couldn't
• 28:08
  agree
• 28:08
  with
• 28:08
  you
• 28:08
  more.
• 28:09
  And
• 28:09
  that's
• 28:10
  why?
• 28:10
  One
• 28:10
  of
• 28:10
  the
• 28:10
  reasons
• 28:11
  I
• 28:12
  started
• 28:12
  blogging
• 28:13
  and.
• 28:14
  And
• 28:14
  then
• 28:14
  I
• 28:14
  gravitated
• 28:15
  to
• 28:16
  podcasting
• 28:17
  and
• 28:18
  sometimes
• 28:18
  I
• 28:18
  know
• 28:18
  I
• 28:19
  confuse
• 28:20
  our
• 28:20
  audience
• 28:21
  a
• 28:21
  little
• 28:21
  because
• 28:22
  was
• 28:23
  it
• 28:23
  the
• 28:23
  chicken
• 28:23
  or
• 28:23
  the
• 28:24
  egg?
• 28:24
  In
• 28:24
  our
• 28:24
  case,
• 28:25
  it
• 28:25
  was
• 28:26
  our
• 28:26
  children's
• 28:27
  website
• 28:27
  that
• 28:27
  came
• 28:28
  first.
• 28:28
  And
• 28:28
  then
• 28:29
  about
• 28:29
  a
• 28:29
  year
• 28:30
  later
• 28:30
  we
• 28:30
  came
• 28:30
  up
• 28:30
  with
• 28:31
  the
• 28:31
  idea
• 28:31
  of
• 28:32
  what
• 28:32
  do
• 28:32
  we
• 28:32
  do
• 28:33
  in
• 28:33
  terms
• 28:33
  of
• 28:33
  marketing
• 28:34
  and
• 28:34
  how
• 28:35
  do
• 28:35
  we
• 28:35
  reach
• 28:35
  out
• 28:35
  to
• 28:35
  other
• 28:36
  children's
• 28:36
  book
• 28:36
  authors
• 28:37
  and
• 28:37
  support
• 28:38
  each
• 28:38
  other.
• 28:39
  And
• 28:39
  that's
• 28:39
  how
• 28:39
  the
• 28:40
  podcast
• 28:40
  started
• 28:41
  and
• 28:42
  the
• 28:42
  economics
• 28:43
  of
• 28:43
  it
• 28:43
  too.
• 28:44
  We
• 28:44
  incorporated
• 28:45
  the
• 28:45
  podcast
• 28:46
  right
• 28:47
  into
• 28:47
  our
• 28:47
  Caboose
• 28:48
  website.
• 28:48
  The
• 28:49
  Adventures
• 28:49
  in
• 28:49
  the
• 28:49
  Heart
• 28:49
  of
• 28:50
  Children's
• 28:50
  Book
• 28:50
  Authors.
• 28:51
  It's
• 28:51
  not
• 28:51
  the
• 28:51
  same
• 28:52
  as
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  book
• 28:53
  series,
• 28:53
  but
• 28:54
  it
• 28:55
  supports
• 28:55
  each
• 28:55
  other
• 28:55
  and
• 28:56
  that's
• 28:56
  how
• 28:56
  we
• 28:57
  came
• 28:57
  about
• 28:57
  doing
• 28:57
  that.
• 28:58
  To
• 28:58
  your
• 28:58
  point,
• 28:59
  we
• 28:59
  put
• 28:59
  a
• 28:59
  new
• 29:00
  podcast
• 29:01
  episode
• 29:02
  out
• 29:02
  every
• 29:02
  week.
• 29:04
  Keeps
• 29:04
  it
• 29:04
  fresh
• 29:04
  all
• 29:05
  the
• 29:05
  time.
• 29:06
  If
• 29:06
  you're
• 29:06
  going
• 29:06
  to
• 29:06
  support
• 29:07
  your
• 29:07
  website
• 29:08
  with
• 29:08
  a
• 29:08
  blog,
• 29:10
  I
• 29:10
  think
• 29:10
  the
• 29:10
  minimum
• 29:11
  should
• 29:11
  be
• 29:12
  once
• 29:12
  a
• 29:12
  month.
• 29:13
  That's
• 29:13
  my
• 29:13
  personal
• 29:14
  opinion,
• 29:14
  to
• 29:15
  keep
• 29:15
  it
• 29:15
  fresh.
• 29:16
  Unless
• 29:16
  you're
• 29:16
  doing
• 29:16
  lots
• 29:17
  of
• 29:17
  events
• 29:18
  and
• 29:18
  you're
• 29:19
  able
• 29:19
  to
• 29:19
  do
• 29:19
  as
• 29:20
  you've
• 29:20
  said,
• 29:20
  Katherine,
• 29:21
  get
• 29:22
  those
• 29:22
  pictures
• 29:23
  up
• 29:23
  and
• 29:23
  posted.
• 29:24
  And
• 29:24
  your
• 29:25
  event
• 29:25
  site
• 29:25
  is
• 29:26
  very
• 29:26
  active.
• 29:27
  Yeah,
• 29:28
  my
• 29:28
  publisher
• 29:28
  has
• 29:28
  recommended
• 29:29
  that
• 29:30
  myself
• 29:30
  and
• 29:30
  all
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  other
• 29:31
  authors
• 29:31
  that
• 29:32
  she
• 29:32
  works
• 29:32
  with
• 29:32
  that
• 29:32
  we
• 29:33
  have
• 29:33
  a
• 29:33
  goal
• 29:33
  of
• 29:33
  at
• 29:34
  least
• 29:34
  one
• 29:34
  to
• 29:34
  two
• 29:35
  events
• 29:35
  each
• 29:35
  month,
• 29:36
  minimum.
• 29:37
  And
• 29:37
  I
• 29:38
  do
• 29:38
  strive
• 29:39
  to
• 29:39
  try
• 29:40
  and
• 29:41
  locate
• 29:42
  opportunities
• 29:42
  and
• 29:43
  put
• 29:43
  myself
• 29:43
  out
• 29:43
  there,
• 29:44
  share
• 29:44
  and
• 29:44
  connect.
• 29:44
  And
• 29:45
  I'm
• 29:45
  very
• 29:46
  fortunate
• 29:46
  to
• 29:47
  also
• 29:47
  be
• 29:48
  a
• 29:48
  collaborative
• 29:49
  author
• 29:49
  with
• 29:50
  a
• 29:50
  non
• 29:50
  profit
• 29:51
  called
• 29:51
  Ella's
• 29:51
  Way,
• 29:52
  which
• 29:52
  gives
• 29:53
  me
• 29:53
  opportunities
• 29:54
  to
• 29:54
  fundraise
• 29:55
  for
• 29:55
  Ella's
• 29:56
  Way
• 29:56
  and
• 29:57
  have
• 29:57
  events
• 29:58
  associated
• 29:58
  with
• 29:59
  supporting
• 30:00
  Ella's
• 30:00
  Way.
• 30:00
  That's
• 30:01
  one
• 30:01
  way
• 30:01
  that
• 30:01
  I
• 30:01
  have
• 30:02
  events.
• 30:03
  Because
• 30:03
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• 30:04
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• 30:04
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• 30:05
  Not
• 30:06
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• 30:06
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• 30:06
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• 30:07
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• 30:07
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• 30:08
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• 30:08
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• 30:08
  So
• 30:09
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• 30:09
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• 30:09
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• 30:10
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• 30:10
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• 30:10
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• 30:10
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• 30:10
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• 30:10
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• 30:10
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• 30:11
  back
• 30:11
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• 30:11
  Alan's
• 30:12
  Way
• 30:12
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• 30:12
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• 30:12
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• 30:12
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• 30:13
  delve
• 30:13
  deeper
• 30:14
  into
• 30:14
  that
• 30:14
  with
• 30:15
  Katherine.
• 30:15
  But
• 30:16
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• 30:16
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• 30:16
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• 30:16
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• 30:17
  want
• 30:17
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• 30:17
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• 30:17
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• 30:17
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• 30:17
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• 30:17
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• 30:17
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• 30:18
  more,
• 30:18
  Katherine,
• 30:19
  is
• 30:19
  your
• 30:19
  social
• 30:20
  media.
• 30:20
  You
• 30:21
  have
• 30:21
  your
• 30:21
  website.
• 30:22
  I
• 30:22
  noticed
• 30:23
  that
• 30:23
  you're
• 30:23
  active
• 30:24
  on
• 30:24
  Facebook,
• 30:25
  Instagram
• 30:26
  and
• 30:26
  LinkedIn.
• 30:27
  And
• 30:28
  I
• 30:28
  find
• 30:28
  that
• 30:29
  most
• 30:29
  children's
• 30:30
  book
• 30:30
  authors,
• 30:31
  when
• 30:31
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• 30:31
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• 30:32
  to
• 30:32
  them
• 30:32
  about
• 30:33
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• 30:33
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• 30:34
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• 30:34
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• 30:34
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• 30:34
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• 30:35
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• 30:35
  me
• 30:35
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• 30:36
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• 30:36
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• 30:37
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• 30:37
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• 30:38
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• 30:38
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• 30:38
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• 30:38
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• 30:38
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• 30:39
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• 30:39
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• 30:39
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• 30:40
  It's
• 30:40
  a
• 30:40
  business
• 30:41
  site,
• 30:42
  it
• 30:42
  promotes
• 30:42
  businesses.
• 30:44
  Why
• 30:44
  is
• 30:44
  a
• 30:44
  children's
• 30:45
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• 30:45
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• 30:45
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• 30:46
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• 30:46
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• 30:46
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• 30:47
  And
• 30:48
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• 30:49
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• 30:49
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• 30:49
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• 30:49
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• 30:49
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• 30:50
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• 30:50
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• 30:50
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• 30:50
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• 30:50
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• 30:51
  us
• 30:51
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• 30:51
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• 30:52
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• 30:53
  using
• 30:53
  Facebook,
• 30:54
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• 30:54
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• 30:55
  LinkedIn
• 30:55
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• 30:55
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• 30:56
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• 30:56
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• 30:56
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• 30:56
  mind,
• 30:56
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• 30:57
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• 30:57
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• 30:57
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• 30:57
  more
• 30:58
  my
• 30:58
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• 30:58
  on
• 30:58
  LinkedIn,
• 30:59
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• 30:59
  I'll
• 30:59
  do
• 30:59
  that
• 31:00
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• 31:01
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• 31:01
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• 31:01
  us
• 31:01
  your
• 31:02
  feelings
• 31:03
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• 31:03
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• 31:03
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• 31:03
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• 31:04
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• 31:04
  social
• 31:05
  media
• 31:05
  platforms.
• 31:07
  Being
• 31:07
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• 31:08
  social
• 31:09
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• 31:09
  it
• 31:10
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• 31:10
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• 31:10
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• 31:11
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• 31:11
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• 31:12
  me
• 31:12
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• 31:12
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• 31:13
  Didn't
• 31:14
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• 31:15
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• 31:15
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• 31:15
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• 31:16
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• 31:16
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• 31:16
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• 31:16
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• 31:17
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• 31:17
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• 31:17
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• 31:18
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• 31:18
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• 31:19
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• 31:19
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• 31:20
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• 31:21
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• 31:22
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• 31:22
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• 31:23
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• 31:24
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• 31:25
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• 31:25
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• 31:26
  market
• 31:26
  the
• 31:27
  products
• 31:27
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• 31:27
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• 31:28
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• 31:29
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• 31:29
  think
• 31:29
  it's
• 31:29
  a
• 31:30
  great
• 31:30
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• 31:31
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• 31:31
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• 31:32
  younger
• 31:33
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• 31:35
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• 31:35
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• 31:35
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• 31:36
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• 31:36
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• 31:36
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• 31:37
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• 31:37
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• 31:38
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• 31:38
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• 31:39
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• 31:39
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• 31:39
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• 31:39
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• 31:39
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• 31:40
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• 31:41
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• 31:41
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• 31:41
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• 31:41
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• 31:41
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• 31:42
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• 31:42
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• 31:42
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• 31:42
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• 31:43
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• 31:44
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• 31:44
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• 31:44
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• 31:44
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• 31:46
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• 31:47
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• 31:47
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• 31:47
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• 31:47
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• 31:48
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• 31:48
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• 31:48
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• 31:48
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• 31:49
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• 31:50
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• 31:50
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• 31:50
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• 31:51
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• 31:51
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• 31:51
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• 31:51
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• 31:52
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• 31:52
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• 31:52
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• 31:52
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• 31:52
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• 31:53
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• 31:53
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• 31:53
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• 31:54
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• 31:54
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• 31:54
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• 31:54
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• 31:54
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• 31:55
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• 31:55
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• 31:56
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• 31:56
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• 31:57
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• 31:57
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• 31:58
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• 31:59
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• 32:00
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• 32:00
  illustrators,
• 32:01
  children
• 32:02
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• 32:03
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• 32:04
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• 32:04
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• 32:05
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• 32:05
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• 32:06
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• 32:06
  a
• 32:06
  writer.
• 32:06
  They
• 32:07
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• 32:07
  connect
• 32:07
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• 32:08
  you
• 32:08
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• 32:08
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• 32:08
  author.
• 32:09
  In
• 32:10
  regards
• 32:10
  to
• 32:12
  LinkedIn,
• 32:13
  as
• 32:13
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• 32:14
  author,
• 32:14
  you're
• 32:14
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• 32:15
  a
• 32:15
  business
• 32:16
  manager.
• 32:17
  You
• 32:17
  are
• 32:18
  a
• 32:19
  business,
• 32:19
  you
• 32:20
  have
• 32:20
  a
• 32:20
  product,
• 32:20
  you're
• 32:21
  trying
• 32:21
  to
• 32:21
  sell
• 32:21
  it.
• 32:22
  So
• 32:22
  in
• 32:23
  regards
• 32:23
  to
• 32:23
  LinkedIn,
• 32:24
  I
• 32:24
  think
• 32:24
  it's
• 32:24
  a
• 32:25
  great
• 32:25
  opportunity
• 32:26
  there
• 32:26
  to
• 32:26
  connect
• 32:27
  with
• 32:27
  other
• 32:27
  authors,
• 32:28
  to
• 32:28
  connect
• 32:28
  with
• 32:28
  other
• 32:28
  businesses,
• 32:29
  businesses
• 32:29
  to
• 32:29
  connect
• 32:30
  with
• 32:30
  agents
• 32:31
  and
• 32:31
  publishers
• 32:32
  and
• 32:32
  illustrators.
• 32:33
  And
• 32:34
  again,
• 32:34
  it's
• 32:35
  about
• 32:35
  cataloging,
• 32:36
  it's
• 32:36
  about
• 32:36
  promoting,
• 32:37
  it's
• 32:37
  about
• 32:38
  connecting.
• 32:39
  For
• 32:39
  me,
• 32:40
  absolutely.
• 32:41
  And
• 32:42
  it's
• 32:42
  interesting
• 32:42
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• 32:43
  I've
• 32:43
  been,
• 32:43
  I'm
• 32:44
  definitely
• 32:44
  a
• 32:44
  generation
• 32:45
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• 32:45
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• 32:45
  you
• 32:45
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• 32:46
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• 32:46
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• 32:46
  age.
• 32:47
  And
• 32:47
  so
• 32:48
  my
• 32:48
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• 32:49
  real
• 32:49
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• 32:50
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• 32:50
  social
• 32:51
  media
• 32:51
  was
• 32:52
  LinkedIn.
• 32:52
  Because
• 32:53
  I
• 32:53
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• 32:53
  in
• 32:53
  the
• 32:54
  management
• 32:54
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• 32:55
  most
• 32:55
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• 32:55
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• 32:56
  career.
• 32:57
  Your
• 32:57
  LinkedIn
• 32:58
  profile
• 32:58
  was
• 32:59
  very
• 32:59
  important.
• 33:00
  That
• 33:00
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• 33:01
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• 33:01
  go
• 33:01
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• 33:01
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• 33:02
  LinkedIn,
• 33:02
  so
• 33:03
  I
• 33:03
  was
• 33:03
  very
• 33:03
  familiar
• 33:04
  with
• 33:04
  it.
• 33:04
  But
• 33:05
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• 33:05
  your
• 33:05
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• 33:05
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• 33:06
  think
• 33:06
  what
• 33:07
  a
• 33:07
  lot
• 33:07
  of
• 33:07
  children's
• 33:08
  book
• 33:08
  authors
• 33:09
  don't
• 33:09
  realize
• 33:10
  is
• 33:11
  that
• 33:11
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• 33:12
  groups.
• 33:13
  If
• 33:13
  you
• 33:13
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• 33:13
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• 33:13
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• 33:14
  you
• 33:14
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• 33:14
  join
• 33:14
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• 33:15
  groups.
• 33:16
  And
• 33:16
  what
• 33:16
  I
• 33:17
  found
• 33:17
  is
• 33:18
  that
• 33:19
  as
• 33:19
  I
• 33:20
  kept
• 33:21
  interviewing
• 33:21
  children's
• 33:22
  book
• 33:22
  authors,
• 33:23
  I
• 33:23
  was
• 33:23
  finding
• 33:24
  that
• 33:25
  the
• 33:25
  background
• 33:26
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• 33:26
  a
• 33:26
  lot
• 33:26
  of
• 33:26
  children's
• 33:27
  book
• 33:27
  authors
• 33:28
  were
• 33:28
  either
• 33:28
  they
• 33:29
  were
• 33:30
  elementary
• 33:31
  school
• 33:31
  teachers
• 33:33
  or
• 33:33
  they
• 33:34
  were
• 33:34
  early
• 33:34
  development
• 33:35
  educators.
• 33:37
  I'm
• 33:37
  going
• 33:37
  to
• 33:38
  say
• 33:38
  75%
• 33:39
  of
• 33:40
  the
• 33:40
  children's
• 33:40
  book
• 33:41
  authors
• 33:41
  that
• 33:41
  I
• 33:42
  interview.
• 33:43
  And
• 33:43
  I
• 33:43
  don't
• 33:44
  purposely
• 33:45
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• 33:45
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• 33:45
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• 33:45
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• 33:45
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• 33:45
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• 33:46
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• 33:46
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• 33:46
  find
• 33:47
  elementary
• 33:48
  teachers
• 33:48
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• 33:49
  early
• 33:49
  development
• 33:50
  educators,
• 33:50
  but
• 33:51
  that's
• 33:51
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• 33:51
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• 33:52
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• 33:52
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• 33:53
  me.
• 33:53
  And
• 33:54
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• 33:54
  I
• 33:54
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• 33:54
  oh,
• 33:55
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• 33:55
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• 33:56
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• 33:56
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• 33:56
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• 33:56
  to
• 33:56
  LinkedIn,
• 33:57
  some
• 33:57
  of
• 33:58
  the
• 33:58
  largest
• 33:58
  groups
• 33:59
  are
• 34:00
  principals
• 34:00
  and
• 34:01
  teachers.
• 34:02
  That
• 34:02
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• 34:03
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• 34:03
  association
• 34:03
  where
• 34:04
  they
• 34:04
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• 34:04
  looking
• 34:05
  for
• 34:06
  children's
• 34:07
  books
• 34:07
  to
• 34:07
  bring
• 34:07
  into
• 34:08
  the
• 34:08
  classroom.
• 34:09
  And
• 34:09
  the
• 34:10
  thing
• 34:10
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• 34:10
  I
• 34:11
  find
• 34:11
  about
• 34:13
  educators
• 34:13
  is
• 34:14
  they're
• 34:14
  looking
• 34:14
  for
• 34:15
  someone
• 34:15
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• 34:15
  come
• 34:15
  with
• 34:16
  more
• 34:16
  than
• 34:17
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• 34:17
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• 34:17
  book
• 34:17
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• 34:18
  looking
• 34:18
  for.
• 34:18
  Do
• 34:19
  you
• 34:19
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• 34:19
  a
• 34:19
  lesson
• 34:20
  plan
• 34:21
  to
• 34:21
  support
• 34:21
  your
• 34:22
  book?
• 34:22
  And
• 34:22
  I
• 34:23
  thought,
• 34:23
  wow,
• 34:24
  so
• 34:24
  that's
• 34:24
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• 34:25
  I
• 34:25
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• 34:25
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• 34:26
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• 34:26
  listening
• 34:27
  to
• 34:27
  the
• 34:27
  show.
• 34:27
  And
• 34:28
  you've
• 34:28
  discounted
• 34:29
  LinkedIn.
• 34:30
  I
• 34:31
  don't
• 34:31
  think
• 34:31
  you
• 34:31
  should.
• 34:32
  I
• 34:32
  think
• 34:32
  you
• 34:32
  should
• 34:32
  go
• 34:33
  join
• 34:33
  LinkedIn,
• 34:34
  set
• 34:34
  up
• 34:34
  your
• 34:35
  children's
• 34:35
  book
• 34:36
  author
• 34:36
  profile,
• 34:37
  and
• 34:37
  then
• 34:38
  search
• 34:38
  out
• 34:38
  children's
• 34:39
  book
• 34:39
  authors,
• 34:40
  writers,
• 34:41
  illustrators,
• 34:42
  and
• 34:42
  educators.
• 34:43
  And
• 34:44
  once
• 34:44
  you
• 34:44
  do
• 34:44
  that,
• 34:45
  then
• 34:45
  start
• 34:46
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• 34:47
  to
• 34:48
  that
• 34:48
  group.
• 34:49
  And
• 34:49
  you
• 34:50
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• 34:50
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• 34:50
  know
• 34:51
  where
• 34:52
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• 34:52
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• 34:53
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• 34:53
  out
• 34:53
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• 34:53
  you
• 34:53
  and
• 34:54
  say,
• 34:54
  you
• 34:54
  know
• 34:54
  what,
• 34:54
  Katherine,
• 34:55
  I
• 34:55
  love
• 34:55
  your
• 34:56
  books.
• 34:56
  How
• 34:57
  do
• 34:57
  I
• 34:57
  bring
• 34:57
  them
• 34:57
  into
• 34:58
  my
• 34:58
  classroom?
• 34:59
  That
• 35:00
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• 35:00
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• 35:00
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• 35:01
  We're
• 35:01
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• 35:01
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• 35:02
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• 35:02
  Yeah,
• 35:02
  it
• 35:02
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• 35:03
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• 35:03
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• 35:04
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• 35:05
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• 35:05
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• 35:05
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• 35:05
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• 35:06
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• 35:06
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• 35:06
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• 35:07
  another
• 35:07
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• 35:07
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• 35:07
  group
• 35:08
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• 35:08
  extremely
• 35:09
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• 35:10
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• 35:10
  me
• 35:11
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• 35:11
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• 35:11
  Facebook.
• 35:12
  Book
• 35:12
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• 35:13
  groups
• 35:13
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• 35:14
  you
• 35:14
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• 35:14
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• 35:14
  manuscript
• 35:15
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• 35:15
  for
• 35:16
  critiques.
• 35:16
  I
• 35:17
  find
• 35:17
  a
• 35:18
  treasure
• 35:18
  trove
• 35:19
  of
• 35:20
  feedback
• 35:21
  when
• 35:21
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• 35:22
  am
• 35:22
  in
• 35:22
  the
• 35:22
  creative
• 35:23
  process
• 35:23
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• 35:23
  the
• 35:23
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• 35:24
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• 35:24
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• 35:25
  my
• 35:25
  stories.
• 35:26
  I
• 35:26
  found
• 35:27
  kidlit411.
• 35:28
  Manuscript
• 35:29
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• 35:30
  is
• 35:30
  a
• 35:30
  phenomenal
• 35:31
  group
• 35:32
  where
• 35:32
  it's
• 35:33
  hit
• 35:33
  or
• 35:33
  miss
• 35:34
  for
• 35:34
  the
• 35:34
  feedback
• 35:34
  that
• 35:35
  you
• 35:35
  get.
• 35:35
  But
• 35:35
  you
• 35:36
  can
• 35:37
  post
• 35:37
  that
• 35:37
  you
• 35:37
  have
• 35:38
  a
• 35:39
  400
• 35:39
  word
• 35:40
  children's
• 35:41
  book
• 35:41
  manuscript
• 35:42
  that
• 35:42
  you
• 35:42
  want
• 35:43
  to
• 35:43
  get
• 35:43
  feedback
• 35:43
  on
• 35:44
  and
• 35:44
  you're
• 35:45
  willing
• 35:45
  to
• 35:45
  swap.
• 35:46
  So,
• 35:46
  number
• 35:47
  one,
• 35:47
  you
• 35:47
  get
• 35:47
  feedback.
• 35:48
  Number
• 35:48
  two,
• 35:48
  you're
• 35:49
  connecting
• 35:49
  with
• 35:49
  other
• 35:50
  people.
• 35:51
  And
• 35:51
  number
• 35:51
  three,
• 35:52
  you're
• 35:52
  also
• 35:52
  getting
• 35:52
  an
• 35:52
  opportunity
• 35:53
  to
• 35:54
  see
• 35:54
  what
• 35:54
  else
• 35:55
  is
• 35:55
  out
• 35:55
  there
• 35:56
  and
• 35:56
  you
• 35:56
  get
• 35:56
  to
• 35:56
  give
• 35:56
  back,
• 35:57
  which
• 35:57
  is
• 35:57
  really
• 35:58
  important
• 35:58
  to
• 35:58
  me.
• 35:58
  Perfect.
• 35:59
  Terrific.
• 36:00
  And
• 36:00
  that
• 36:00
  leads
• 36:01
  us
• 36:01
  to
• 36:01
  Ala's
• 36:02
  Way,
• 36:02
  because
• 36:02
  I
• 36:03
  believe
• 36:03
  you're
• 36:04
  my
• 36:04
  fifth
• 36:05
  or
• 36:05
  sixth
• 36:05
  Ala's
• 36:06
  Way.
• 36:07
  I'm
• 36:07
  not
• 36:08
  sure
• 36:08
  if
• 36:08
  you
• 36:08
  guys
• 36:08
  call
• 36:09
  yourself
• 36:09
  a
• 36:09
  membership
• 36:10
  or
• 36:11
  collaborative
• 36:11
  author.
• 36:12
  Okay,
• 36:12
  great.
• 36:13
  Thank
• 36:13
  you.
• 36:13
  So
• 36:14
  Ella's
• 36:15
  Way.
• 36:15
  And
• 36:16
  anyone
• 36:16
  who's
• 36:16
  been
• 36:17
  listening
• 36:17
  to
• 36:17
  our
• 36:18
  podcast
• 36:18
  show
• 36:18
  knows
• 36:19
  I
• 36:19
  talked
• 36:20
  to
• 36:20
  several
• 36:21
  authors
• 36:21
  now
• 36:21
  that
• 36:22
  have
• 36:22
  been
• 36:22
  part
• 36:22
  of
• 36:22
  Ella's
• 36:23
  Way.
• 36:23
  But
• 36:24
  the
• 36:24
  one
• 36:24
  thing
• 36:24
  that
• 36:25
  I've
• 36:25
  never
• 36:25
  done
• 36:26
  is
• 36:27
  actually
• 36:27
  dig
• 36:28
  deeper
• 36:29
  into
• 36:30
  what
• 36:30
  is
• 36:30
  Ella's
• 36:31
  Way.
• 36:31
  And
• 36:31
  when
• 36:31
  I
• 36:31
  went
• 36:32
  to
• 36:32
  your
• 36:32
  website,
• 36:32
  I
• 36:33
  thought,
• 36:34
  oh,
• 36:34
  my
• 36:34
  goodness,
• 36:35
  I've
• 36:36
  got
• 36:36
  to
• 36:36
  talk
• 36:36
  to
• 36:36
  Katherine.
• 36:37
  Because
• 36:38
  Katherine
• 36:39
  does
• 36:39
  a
• 36:40
  great
• 36:40
  job
• 36:40
  in
• 36:40
  communicating
• 36:42
  what
• 36:42
  Ella's
• 36:43
  Way
• 36:43
  is
• 36:43
  on
• 36:44
  her
• 36:44
  website.
• 36:45
  Can
• 36:45
  you
• 36:46
  tell
• 36:46
  us
• 36:47
  all
• 36:47
  about
• 36:47
  Ella's
• 36:48
  Way
• 36:49
  and
• 36:49
  how
• 36:49
  is
• 36:50
  it
• 36:50
  working
• 36:50
  for
• 36:51
  you
• 36:51
  to
• 36:52
  build
• 36:52
  your
• 36:53
  book
• 36:53
  readership?
• 36:55
  Ella's
• 36:55
  Way.
• 36:56
  You
• 36:56
  can't
• 36:56
  talk
• 36:56
  about
• 36:57
  Ella's
• 36:57
  Way
• 36:57
  without
• 36:57
  bringing
• 36:58
  up
• 36:58
  Sherry
• 36:58
  and
• 36:58
  Dave.
• 36:59
  So
• 36:59
  Sheri
• 36:59
  and
• 36:59
  Dave
• 37:00
  are
• 37:00
  husband
• 37:00
  and
• 37:00
  wife,
• 37:01
  and
• 37:01
  Sheri
• 37:02
  is
• 37:02
  also
• 37:02
  a
• 37:02
  children's
• 37:03
  book
• 37:03
  author.
• 37:03
  She
• 37:04
  was
• 37:04
  an
• 37:04
  educator
• 37:06
  before
• 37:06
  she
• 37:06
  retired
• 37:07
  and
• 37:07
  started
• 37:08
  this
• 37:08
  nonprofit
• 37:09
  called
• 37:09
  Ella's
• 37:09
  Way.
• 37:10
  Her
• 37:10
  book
• 37:10
  is
• 37:11
  Ella
• 37:11
  and
• 37:12
  the
• 37:12
  All
• 37:12
  Stars.
• 37:13
  It's
• 37:13
  early
• 37:14
  learning
• 37:14
  leads
• 37:15
  to
• 37:15
  acceptance
• 37:16
  is
• 37:16
  what
• 37:16
  Ella
• 37:17
  stands
• 37:17
  for.
• 37:18
  And
• 37:18
  Ella's
• 37:19
  Way,
• 37:19
  based
• 37:20
  on
• 37:20
  that
• 37:20
  book,
• 37:20
  Ella
• 37:21
  and
• 37:21
  the
• 37:21
  All
• 37:21
  Stars
• 37:22
  is
• 37:22
  about
• 37:23
  promoting
• 37:23
  kindness,
• 37:24
  promoting
• 37:25
  anti
• 37:25
  bullying,
• 37:26
  trying
• 37:26
  to
• 37:27
  get
• 37:27
  books
• 37:28
  into
• 37:28
  the
• 37:28
  hands
• 37:29
  of
• 37:29
  children
• 37:30
  early
• 37:31
  to
• 37:31
  teach
• 37:32
  those
• 37:33
  extremely
• 37:33
  important
• 37:34
  concepts
• 37:35
  to
• 37:35
  children
• 37:35
  as
• 37:36
  they
• 37:36
  are
• 37:36
  entering
• 37:37
  into
• 37:37
  the
• 37:37
  education
• 37:37
  system.
• 37:38
  Anti
• 37:38
  bullying,
• 37:39
  inclusion,
• 37:40
  kindness,
• 37:41
  difference
• 37:42
  acceptances.
• 37:42
  Katherine,
• 37:43
  I
• 37:43
  went
• 37:43
  to
• 37:43
  the
• 37:43
  Ella's
• 37:44
  Way
• 37:44
  website
• 37:46
  because
• 37:46
  you're
• 37:46
  bringing
• 37:47
  up
• 37:47
  the
• 37:47
  different
• 37:48
  genres
• 37:48
  or
• 37:48
  categories,
• 37:49
  and
• 37:50
  I
• 37:50
  noticed
• 37:51
  that
• 37:51
  your
• 37:51
  book,
• 37:52
  generally,
• 37:53
  whatever
• 37:53
  your
• 37:54
  main
• 37:54
  theme,
• 37:55
  was
• 37:55
  then
• 37:55
  listed
• 37:56
  under
• 37:56
  that
• 37:57
  heading.
• 37:57
  I
• 37:57
  wanted
• 37:58
  to
• 37:58
  mention
• 37:58
  that.
• 37:58
  And
• 37:59
  we
• 37:59
  will
• 37:59
  definitely
• 38:00
  have
• 38:00
  links
• 38:00
  to
• 38:01
  everything
• 38:02
  that
• 38:02
  we're
• 38:02
  discussing
• 38:03
  with
• 38:03
  Katherine,
• 38:03
  including
• 38:04
  Ella's
• 38:05
  Way,
• 38:05
  so
• 38:05
  you
• 38:05
  can
• 38:05
  go
• 38:05
  there
• 38:05
  and
• 38:06
  have
• 38:06
  a
• 38:06
  look
• 38:06
  for
• 38:06
  yourself.
• 38:07
  So
• 38:07
  that's
• 38:08
  fantastic.
• 38:08
  And
• 38:09
  how
• 38:09
  is
• 38:09
  this?
• 38:10
  How
• 38:10
  is
• 38:10
  Ella's
• 38:11
  Way
• 38:11
  helped?
• 38:12
  It
• 38:13
  sounds
• 38:13
  like
• 38:13
  I'll
• 38:14
  scratch
• 38:14
  your
• 38:14
  back.
• 38:15
  You
• 38:15
  scratch
• 38:15
  my
• 38:16
  back.
• 38:16
  So
• 38:16
  tell
• 38:17
  us
• 38:17
  how
• 38:18
  you
• 38:18
  get
• 38:18
  your
• 38:18
  back
• 38:19
  scratched
• 38:20
  back.
• 38:21
  I
• 38:22
  don't
• 38:22
  know
• 38:22
  if
• 38:22
  you
• 38:22
  understood
• 38:23
  that,
• 38:23
  but,
• 38:23
  like,
• 38:23
  how
• 38:24
  are
• 38:24
  they
• 38:24
  helping
• 38:24
  you?
• 38:25
  Yeah,
• 38:25
  absolutely.
• 38:26
  As
• 38:26
  a
• 38:26
  collaborative
• 38:27
  author,
• 38:28
  we.
• 38:28
  We
• 38:29
  are
• 38:29
  part
• 38:29
  of
• 38:30
  30
• 38:30
  to
• 38:30
  35
• 38:31
  different
• 38:31
  authors
• 38:32
  where
• 38:32
  Sheri
• 38:33
  purchases
• 38:34
  our
• 38:34
  books
• 38:35
  at
• 38:35
  a
• 38:35
  discounted
• 38:36
  rate
• 38:36
  and
• 38:37
  then
• 38:37
  donates
• 38:38
  our
• 38:39
  books
• 38:39
  to
• 38:40
  schools,
• 38:41
  hospitals,
• 38:42
  early
• 38:42
  education
• 38:43
  development
• 38:43
  centers.
• 38:44
  Basically
• 38:45
  any
• 38:45
  organization.
• 38:46
  Churches,
• 38:47
  preschools,
• 38:48
  any
• 38:48
  organization
• 38:48
  that
• 38:49
  is
• 38:49
  interested
• 38:50
  and
• 38:50
  willing
• 38:51
  to
• 38:51
  accept
• 38:51
  A
• 38:52
  package
• 38:52
  of
• 38:53
  20
• 38:53
  books
• 38:53
  is
• 38:53
  usually
• 38:54
  what
• 38:54
  the
• 38:54
  package
• 38:55
  is.
• 38:55
  It
• 38:55
  scratches
• 38:56
  our
• 38:56
  back
• 38:56
  in
• 38:56
  the
• 38:57
  sense
• 38:57
  of
• 38:58
  we
• 38:58
  are
• 38:58
  promoting
• 38:59
  Ella's
• 38:59
  Way.
• 38:59
  We
• 38:59
  are
• 38:59
  talking
• 38:59
  about
• 39:00
  Ella's
• 39:00
  Way.
• 39:00
  We
• 39:00
  are
• 39:00
  part
• 39:01
  of
• 39:01
  this
• 39:01
  amazing
• 39:01
  nonprofit,
• 39:02
  and
• 39:02
  they
• 39:03
  purchase
• 39:03
  our
• 39:03
  books
• 39:03
  and
• 39:04
  then
• 39:04
  donate
• 39:04
  them.
• 39:05
  One
• 39:05
  of
• 39:05
  the
• 39:06
  opportunities
• 39:06
  that
• 39:07
  I
• 39:07
  have
• 39:07
  as
• 39:08
  a
• 39:08
  collaborative
• 39:08
  author
• 39:09
  associated
• 39:10
  with
• 39:10
  the
• 39:10
  nonprofit
• 39:11
  is
• 39:11
  I
• 39:12
  can
• 39:12
  do
• 39:12
  various
• 39:13
  different
• 39:13
  fundraiser
• 39:14
  events
• 39:15
  that
• 39:15
  other
• 39:15
  authors
• 39:16
  may
• 39:16
  not
• 39:16
  be
• 39:16
  able
• 39:16
  to
• 39:17
  do,
• 39:17
  such
• 39:17
  as
• 39:18
  I
• 39:18
  recently
• 39:19
  did
• 39:19
  a
• 39:19
  Dine
• 39:20
  to
• 39:20
  Donate
• 39:21
  fundraiser
• 39:22
  with
• 39:22
  Texas
• 39:22
  Roadhouse.
• 39:23
  Okay.
• 39:24
  But
• 39:24
  the
• 39:24
  only
• 39:24
  way
• 39:24
  that
• 39:25
  I
• 39:25
  could
• 39:25
  do
• 39:25
  that
• 39:25
  is
• 39:25
  if
• 39:25
  I
• 39:26
  had
• 39:26
  access
• 39:26
  to
• 39:27
  a
• 39:27
  nonprofit
• 39:28
  tax
• 39:28
  code.
• 39:28
  They
• 39:29
  don't
• 39:29
  really
• 39:29
  do
• 39:29
  dying
• 39:29
  to
• 39:30
  donate
• 39:30
  just
• 39:30
  for
• 39:30
  anything.
• 39:31
  It
• 39:31
  has
• 39:31
  to
• 39:31
  be
• 39:31
  for
• 39:31
  some
• 39:32
  sort
• 39:32
  of
• 39:32
  nonprofit.
• 39:33
  So
• 39:33
  not
• 39:33
  only
• 39:34
  did
• 39:34
  I
• 39:34
  raise
• 39:34
  money
• 39:35
  for
• 39:36
  this
• 39:36
  amazing
• 39:37
  nonprofit
• 39:38
  organization,
• 39:39
  I
• 39:39
  was
• 39:39
  actually
• 39:39
  able
• 39:40
  to
• 39:40
  sell
• 39:40
  some
• 39:40
  of
• 39:40
  my
• 39:41
  books
• 39:41
  at
• 39:41
  the
• 39:41
  event,
• 39:42
  and
• 39:44
  I
• 39:44
  was
• 39:44
  able
• 39:44
  to
• 39:45
  connect
• 39:45
  with
• 39:45
  a
• 39:46
  local
• 39:46
  news
• 39:47
  organization.
• 39:48
  Okay.
• 39:49
  And
• 39:49
  get
• 39:49
  a
• 39:50
  web
• 39:50
  article
• 39:51
  about
• 39:52
  the
• 39:52
  Dying
• 39:52
  to
• 39:52
  Donate
• 39:53
  program.
• 39:54
  And
• 39:55
  a
• 39:55
  local
• 39:56
  elementary
• 39:57
  school
• 39:58
  here
• 39:58
  in
• 39:58
  Virginia
• 39:59
  saw
• 40:00
  the
• 40:00
  news
• 40:01
  article
• 40:01
  and
• 40:02
  requested
• 40:02
  a
• 40:02
  package
• 40:03
  of
• 40:03
  books.
• 40:03
  So
• 40:04
  now
• 40:04
  I
• 40:04
  will
• 40:04
  be
• 40:04
  attending
• 40:05
  their
• 40:05
  school
• 40:05
  and
• 40:05
  reading
• 40:06
  My
• 40:06
  book
• 40:06
  to
• 40:07
  at
• 40:07
  least
• 40:07
  three
• 40:08
  different
• 40:08
  classes.
• 40:09
  Wow.
• 40:10
  This
• 40:10
  month.
• 40:10
  That
• 40:11
  is
• 40:11
  perfect.
• 40:13
  Scratching
• 40:13
  my
• 40:13
  back
• 40:14
  because
• 40:14
  not
• 40:14
  only
• 40:15
  am
• 40:15
  I
• 40:15
  thrilled
• 40:16
  to
• 40:16
  be
• 40:16
  part
• 40:16
  of
• 40:16
  the
• 40:16
  organization
• 40:17
  and
• 40:17
  I
• 40:17
  love
• 40:17
  spreading
• 40:18
  the
• 40:18
  word
• 40:18
  about
• 40:18
  Ellis
• 40:19
  Way
• 40:19
  because
• 40:19
  it
• 40:19
  really
• 40:19
  is
• 40:20
  important
• 40:20
  to
• 40:20
  me,
• 40:21
  but
• 40:21
  it
• 40:21
  gives
• 40:21
  me.
• 40:22
  It
• 40:22
  opens
• 40:22
  doors
• 40:22
  that
• 40:23
  I
• 40:23
  wouldn't
• 40:24
  have
• 40:24
  access
• 40:24
  to
• 40:24
  otherwise.
• 40:25
  That's
• 40:26
  incredible.
• 40:26
  I
• 40:26
  really
• 40:27
  love
• 40:27
  how,
• 40:27
  again,
• 40:28
  like
• 40:29
  I
• 40:29
  said,
• 40:29
  I've
• 40:29
  just
• 40:30
  brought
• 40:30
  it
• 40:30
  up
• 40:30
  in
• 40:31
  general
• 40:31
  as
• 40:32
  I
• 40:32
  was
• 40:32
  talking
• 40:33
  to
• 40:33
  other
• 40:33
  children's
• 40:34
  book
• 40:34
  authors
• 40:35
  who
• 40:35
  were
• 40:35
  part
• 40:35
  of
• 40:35
  the
• 40:36
  program.
• 40:36
  But
• 40:37
  I
• 40:37
  never
• 40:37
  jumped
• 40:37
  into
• 40:38
  depth
• 40:38
  on
• 40:38
  it.
• 40:39
  And
• 40:39
  I'm
• 40:39
  so
• 40:39
  happy
• 40:40
  that
• 40:40
  you've
• 40:40
  shared
• 40:41
  that
• 40:41
  because
• 40:42
  I
• 40:42
  just
• 40:42
  have
• 40:42
  a
• 40:42
  greater
• 40:43
  understanding
• 40:44
  now
• 40:44
  about
• 40:45
  that.
• 40:45
  And
• 40:45
  you
• 40:46
  know
• 40:46
  what?
• 40:46
  It
• 40:46
  started.
• 40:48
  Do
• 40:48
  you
• 40:48
  know
• 40:48
  Stanetta
• 40:48
  Anthony?
• 40:50
  I
• 40:50
  do
• 40:50
  not.
• 40:51
  She
• 40:51
  wrote
• 40:52
  A
• 40:52
  Ella
• 40:52
  Learns
• 40:53
  to
• 40:53
  Dance.
• 40:54
  It's
• 40:55
  her
• 40:55
  book,
• 40:55
  episode
• 40:56
  60,
• 40:56
  and
• 40:56
  it's
• 40:57
  about
• 40:57
  a
• 40:57
  ballerina,
• 40:59
  elephant
• 41:01
  and
• 41:01
  very
• 41:01
  cute
• 41:02
  book.
• 41:02
  And
• 41:02
  she
• 41:02
  said
• 41:03
  she
• 41:03
  belongs
• 41:04
  to
• 41:04
  Alice
• 41:04
  Wayne.
• 41:05
  She
• 41:05
  said,
• 41:05
  do
• 41:05
  you
• 41:05
  mind
• 41:06
  if
• 41:06
  I
• 41:06
  pass
• 41:06
  your
• 41:06
  name
• 41:07
  on
• 41:07
  to
• 41:07
  others?
• 41:08
  I
• 41:08
  said,
• 41:09
  absolutely,
• 41:10
  please
• 41:11
  do.
• 41:11
  And
• 41:11
  it's
• 41:12
  been
• 41:12
  incredible.
• 41:12
  So
• 41:13
  thank
• 41:13
  you
• 41:13
  and
• 41:13
  thanks
• 41:13
  for
• 41:14
  sharing
• 41:14
  that.
• 41:15
  Yeah,
• 41:15
  my
• 41:16
  pleasure.
• 41:16
  Thanks
• 41:16
  for
• 41:16
  bringing
• 41:17
  it
• 41:17
  up.
• 41:18
  Motivation.
• 41:18
  I'm
• 41:19
  always
• 41:19
  curious
• 41:19
  and
• 41:20
  I
• 41:20
  know
• 41:20
  there's
• 41:20
  different
• 41:21
  reasons
• 41:21
  for
• 41:21
  motivation,
• 41:22
  but
• 41:22
  when
• 41:22
  you
• 41:23
  first
• 41:23
  started
• 41:23
  out
• 41:24
  thinking
• 41:24
  about
• 41:25
  being
• 41:25
  a
• 41:25
  children's
• 41:26
  book
• 41:26
  author,
• 41:26
  was
• 41:27
  there
• 41:27
  a
• 41:27
  specific
• 41:28
  person
• 41:28
  or
• 41:29
  event
• 41:30
  that
• 41:31
  kind
• 41:31
  of
• 41:31
  had
• 41:31
  that
• 41:32
  light
• 41:32
  bulb
• 41:33
  moment,
• 41:33
  that
• 41:33
  aha
• 41:34
  moment,
• 41:35
  and
• 41:35
  you
• 41:35
  went,
• 41:35
  you
• 41:36
  know
• 41:36
  what,
• 41:37
  I
• 41:37
  want
• 41:37
  to
• 41:38
  write
• 41:38
  a
• 41:38
  children's
• 41:38
  book
• 41:39
  or
• 41:39
  I'm
• 41:40
  a
• 41:40
  children's
• 41:40
  book
• 41:41
  authority.
• 41:42
  Who
• 41:42
  was
• 41:42
  that
• 41:42
  person
• 41:43
  or
• 41:43
  what
• 41:43
  was
• 41:43
  that
• 41:43
  event?
• 41:45
  I
• 41:45
  think
• 41:45
  that
• 41:45
  the
• 41:46
  main
• 41:46
  event
• 41:47
  was
• 41:47
  my
• 41:47
  firstborn
• 41:48
  daughter.
• 41:48
  I
• 41:49
  used
• 41:50
  to
• 41:50
  write
• 41:50
  creatively
• 41:51
  way
• 41:52
  back
• 41:52
  in
• 41:52
  the
• 41:52
  day,
• 41:52
  in
• 41:52
  another
• 41:53
  lifetime.
• 41:53
  But
• 41:54
  I
• 41:54
  had
• 41:54
  gotten
• 41:54
  away
• 41:55
  from
• 41:55
  it
• 41:55
  when
• 41:55
  I
• 41:56
  became
• 41:56
  a
• 41:57
  technical
• 41:57
  support
• 41:58
  engineer
• 41:58
  and
• 41:59
  worked
• 41:59
  my
• 41:59
  way
• 42:00
  to
• 42:00
  the
• 42:01
  director
• 42:01
  position.
• 42:02
  But
• 42:03
  when
• 42:03
  I
• 42:03
  had
• 42:03
  my
• 42:03
  daughter,
• 42:04
  I
• 42:04
  started
• 42:05
  to
• 42:06
  tell
• 42:06
  her
• 42:07
  little
• 42:07
  stories
• 42:08
  about
• 42:09
  a
• 42:09
  little
• 42:09
  bunny
• 42:10
  hiker
• 42:12
  and
• 42:13
  my
• 42:14
  childcare
• 42:15
  provider.
• 42:15
  At
• 42:15
  the
• 42:15
  time,
• 42:16
  her
• 42:16
  name's
• 42:16
  Kelly,
• 42:17
  had
• 42:18
  heard
• 42:18
  about
• 42:18
  these
• 42:19
  little
• 42:19
  stories
• 42:20
  that
• 42:20
  I
• 42:20
  would
• 42:20
  tell
• 42:20
  her
• 42:21
  and
• 42:21
  she
• 42:21
  said,
• 42:21
  you
• 42:21
  should
• 42:22
  write
• 42:22
  those
• 42:22
  down,
• 42:22
  you
• 42:23
  should
• 42:23
  put
• 42:23
  those
• 42:23
  in
• 42:23
  a
• 42:24
  book.
• 42:24
  And
• 42:25
  I
• 42:25
  thought,
• 42:26
  I'm
• 42:26
  not
• 42:26
  going
• 42:26
  to
• 42:26
  do
• 42:26
  that.
• 42:27
  Then
• 42:28
  some
• 42:28
  pretty
• 42:29
  interesting
• 42:29
  life
• 42:30
  changes
• 42:30
  happened
• 42:31
  and
• 42:31
  I
• 42:31
  left
• 42:32
  my
• 42:32
  job
• 42:32
  that
• 42:32
  I
• 42:33
  had
• 42:33
  been
• 42:34
  at
• 42:34
  for
• 42:34
  12
• 42:34
  years.
• 42:35
  And
• 42:35
  I'd
• 42:35
  worked
• 42:35
  very
• 42:35
  hard
• 42:36
  to
• 42:36
  get
• 42:36
  to
• 42:36
  where
• 42:36
  I
• 42:36
  was
• 42:37
  in
• 42:37
  that
• 42:37
  company.
• 42:38
  And
• 42:38
  I
• 42:38
  became
• 42:38
  a
• 42:39
  stay
• 42:39
  at
• 42:39
  home
• 42:39
  mom.
• 42:40
  And
• 42:40
  I
• 42:40
  needed
• 42:41
  something
• 42:42
  to
• 42:43
  keep
• 42:43
  me
• 42:43
  sane.
• 42:44
  I
• 42:44
  needed
• 42:45
  something
• 42:46
  that
• 42:46
  was
• 42:46
  for
• 42:47
  me
• 42:48
  in
• 42:49
  order
• 42:49
  to
• 42:49
  keep
• 42:49
  my
• 42:50
  sanity.
• 42:50
  I
• 42:51
  love
• 42:51
  my
• 42:51
  children,
• 42:52
  I
• 42:52
  love
• 42:52
  my
• 42:52
  family,
• 42:53
  but
• 42:53
  I
• 42:54
  also
• 42:54
  knew
• 42:54
  my
• 42:54
  type
• 42:55
  A
• 42:55
  personality.
• 42:56
  I
• 42:56
  needed
• 42:56
  something
• 42:57
  for
• 42:57
  myself.
• 42:58
  So
• 42:58
  I
• 42:59
  thought,
• 43:00
  do
• 43:01
  some
• 43:01
  Soul
• 43:01
  searching
• 43:01
  and
• 43:02
  figure
• 43:02
  out
• 43:02
  what
• 43:02
  it
• 43:03
  was
• 43:03
  that
• 43:03
  would
• 43:04
  really
• 43:05
  light
• 43:05
  a
• 43:05
  fire
• 43:05
  in
• 43:06
  my
• 43:06
  soul.
• 43:06
  And
• 43:07
  what
• 43:07
  did
• 43:08
  I
• 43:08
  want
• 43:08
  to
• 43:08
  accomplish?
• 43:09
  What
• 43:09
  goal
• 43:09
  did
• 43:10
  I
• 43:10
  have?
• 43:10
  And
• 43:11
  I
• 43:11
  wanted
• 43:12
  to
• 43:13
  positively
• 43:13
  impact
• 43:14
  children
• 43:14
  and
• 43:15
  families,
• 43:16
  and
• 43:16
  I
• 43:17
  wanted
• 43:17
  to
• 43:18
  be
• 43:18
  creative
• 43:19
  and
• 43:19
  scratch
• 43:19
  that
• 43:20
  creative
• 43:20
  itch
• 43:20
  that
• 43:20
  I
• 43:21
  have.
• 43:21
  So
• 43:22
  it
• 43:22
  brought
• 43:22
  me
• 43:22
  back
• 43:22
  to
• 43:23
  the
• 43:23
  stories
• 43:23
  that
• 43:24
  I
• 43:24
  would
• 43:25
  tell
• 43:25
  my
• 43:25
  little
• 43:25
  girl.
• 43:26
  And
• 43:27
  so
• 43:27
  I
• 43:27
  decided
• 43:27
  I'll
• 43:28
  write
• 43:28
  children's
• 43:29
  books
• 43:29
  and
• 43:30
  I
• 43:30
  will
• 43:30
  make
• 43:31
  it
• 43:31
  my
• 43:31
  goal
• 43:32
  to
• 43:32
  be
• 43:32
  published
• 43:33
  within
• 43:33
  a
• 43:34
  year
• 43:34
  of
• 43:35
  quitting
• 43:36
  my
• 43:36
  job.
• 43:37
  And
• 43:37
  I
• 43:37
  got
• 43:37
  published
• 43:38
  within
• 43:39
  10
• 43:39
  months.
• 43:40
  It's
• 43:41
  funny
• 43:41
  how
• 43:42
  it's
• 43:43
  not
• 43:43
  funny.
• 43:43
  I
• 43:43
  think
• 43:43
  it's
• 43:44
  pure
• 43:45
  love
• 43:45
  because
• 43:46
  my
• 43:47
  children's
• 43:47
  book
• 43:48
  authorship
• 43:48
  is
• 43:49
  a
• 43:49
  little
• 43:49
  different
• 43:49
  than
• 43:49
  yours.
• 43:50
  But
• 43:50
  it
• 43:50
  comes
• 43:51
  down
• 43:51
  to
• 43:52
  our
• 43:52
  firstborn
• 43:53
  grandchild.
• 43:55
  And
• 43:56
  at
• 43:57
  the
• 43:57
  time,
• 43:58
  my
• 43:58
  career
• 43:58
  allowed
• 43:59
  me
• 43:59
  time.
• 44:00
  And
• 44:01
  she
• 44:01
  came
• 44:01
  into
• 44:02
  my
• 44:02
  life
• 44:02
  at
• 44:02
  a
• 44:03
  perfect
• 44:03
  time.
• 44:03
  And
• 44:04
  we
• 44:04
  went
• 44:04
  to
• 44:04
  the
• 44:05
  Rocky
• 44:05
  Mountains
• 44:06
  a
• 44:06
  lot,
• 44:07
  and
• 44:07
  I
• 44:07
  taught
• 44:08
  her
• 44:08
  how
• 44:08
  to
• 44:08
  ski,
• 44:09
  and
• 44:09
  we
• 44:10
  horseback
• 44:11
  rode
• 44:11
  in
• 44:11
  the
• 44:12
  winter
• 44:12
  and
• 44:13
  we
• 44:13
  dog
• 44:14
  sledded.
• 44:14
  So
• 44:14
  we
• 44:14
  just
• 44:15
  had
• 44:15
  so
• 44:15
  many
• 44:15
  adventures
• 44:16
  at
• 44:16
  that
• 44:17
  time.
• 44:17
  I
• 44:18
  call
• 44:18
  her
• 44:18
  our
• 44:18
  first
• 44:19
  digital
• 44:19
  baby
• 44:20
  because
• 44:20
  she
• 44:20
  came
• 44:21
  into
• 44:21
  the
• 44:21
  world
• 44:21
  when
• 44:22
  this
• 44:22
  is
• 44:22
  your
• 44:23
  camera,
• 44:23
  your
• 44:24
  iPhone,
• 44:24
  or
• 44:24
  your
• 44:25
  smartphone.
• 44:26
  And
• 44:26
  so
• 44:27
  all
• 44:27
  of
• 44:27
  our
• 44:27
  adventures
• 44:28
  I
• 44:28
  captured,
• 44:29
  whether
• 44:29
  they
• 44:30
  were
• 44:30
  like
• 44:30
  four
• 44:31
  pictures
• 44:31
  or
• 44:32
  six
• 44:32
  pictures
• 44:33
  or
• 44:33
  eight
• 44:33
  pictures
• 44:34
  of
• 44:34
  whatever
• 44:34
  we
• 44:35
  were
• 44:35
  doing
• 44:35
  of
• 44:36
  that
• 44:36
  specific
• 44:36
  event.
• 44:37
  One
• 44:37
  day,
• 44:37
  her
• 44:38
  and
• 44:38
  I
• 44:38
  went
• 44:38
  go
• 44:38
  to
• 44:39
  a
• 44:39
  coffee
• 44:39
  shop
• 44:39
  and
• 44:40
  sat
• 44:40
  down,
• 44:41
  we
• 44:42
  got
• 44:42
  talking
• 44:42
  and
• 44:42
  she
• 44:43
  said,
• 44:43
  papa,
• 44:44
  we
• 44:44
  got
• 44:44
  all
• 44:44
  these
• 44:45
  pictures.
• 44:46
  Why
• 44:46
  don't
• 44:46
  we
• 44:47
  write
• 44:47
  a
• 44:47
  story
• 44:49
  or
• 44:49
  stories?
• 44:50
  And
• 44:51
  it
• 44:51
  was
• 44:51
  her
• 44:53
  wanting
• 44:54
  to
• 44:54
  do
• 44:54
  that
• 44:55
  that
• 44:55
  drove
• 44:55
  me
• 44:56
  to
• 44:57
  become
• 44:58
  a
• 44:58
  children's
• 44:58
  book
• 44:58
  author.
• 44:59
  Your
• 44:59
  children
• 45:00
  or
• 45:00
  grandchildren
• 45:01
  can
• 45:01
  definitely
• 45:01
  have
• 45:02
  a
• 45:02
  lot
• 45:02
  of
• 45:02
  influence
• 45:03
  on
• 45:04
  you.
• 45:05
  Oh,
• 45:05
  yes.
• 45:06
  And
• 45:06
  set
• 45:06
  you
• 45:06
  off
• 45:07
  in
• 45:07
  a
• 45:07
  different
• 45:07
  direction.
• 45:08
  You
• 45:08
  never
• 45:08
  even
• 45:08
  thought.
• 45:10
  Tis
• 45:10
  true.
• 45:11
  Tis
• 45:11
  true.
• 45:11
  I
• 45:12
  feel
• 45:12
  like
• 45:12
  I
• 45:12
  have
• 45:12
  about
• 45:13
  four
• 45:13
  or
• 45:13
  five
• 45:14
  different
• 45:14
  lives
• 45:14
  that
• 45:15
  I've
• 45:15
  lived.
• 45:16
  It's
• 45:17
  incredible.
• 45:17
  My
• 45:17
  favorite
• 45:18
  has
• 45:18
  been
• 45:18
  being
• 45:18
  a
• 45:18
  mom.
• 45:19
  I
• 45:19
  want
• 45:19
  to
• 45:19
  get
• 45:20
  into
• 45:20
  character
• 45:21
  development
• 45:21
  because
• 45:22
  I
• 45:22
  loved
• 45:23
  the
• 45:23
  technique
• 45:24
  you
• 45:24
  used.
• 45:25
  And
• 45:26
  I'm
• 45:26
  hoping
• 45:26
  part
• 45:27
  of
• 45:27
  the
• 45:27
  value
• 45:27
  that
• 45:27
  listeners
• 45:28
  get
• 45:28
  from
• 45:29
  listening
• 45:29
  to
• 45:29
  our
• 45:29
  podcast
• 45:30
  show
• 45:30
  is
• 45:31
  to
• 45:31
  understand
• 45:33
  children's
• 45:33
  book
• 45:33
  authors
• 45:34
  creativity
• 45:36
  and
• 45:36
  how
• 45:36
  they
• 45:36
  come
• 45:37
  up
• 45:37
  with
• 45:37
  these
• 45:38
  creative
• 45:39
  ideas.
• 45:40
  And
• 45:40
  you
• 45:40
  used
• 45:40
  a
• 45:41
  technique
• 45:41
  that
• 45:41
  I
• 45:42
  have
• 45:42
  yet
• 45:42
  to
• 45:42
  see.
• 45:43
  I'm
• 45:44
  up
• 45:44
  to
• 45:44
  about
• 45:44
  75
• 45:46
  children's
• 45:46
  book
• 45:47
  authors
• 45:47
  I've
• 45:48
  talked
• 45:48
  to,
• 45:48
  and
• 45:48
  you're
• 45:48
  the
• 45:48
  first
• 45:49
  one
• 45:49
  that
• 45:49
  used
• 45:49
  this
• 45:49
  technique.
• 45:50
  And
• 45:50
  I
• 45:50
  thought,
• 45:51
  oh,
• 45:51
  this
• 45:51
  is
• 45:51
  really
• 45:52
  cool.
• 45:53
  And
• 45:53
  so
• 45:54
  you
• 45:54
  talked
• 45:54
  about
• 45:55
  it
• 45:55
  a
• 45:55
  little
• 45:55
  earlier,
• 45:56
  Katherine,
• 45:56
  but
• 45:57
  I
• 45:57
  want
• 45:57
  to
• 45:57
  dig
• 45:57
  deeper.
• 45:58
  I
• 45:58
  loved
• 45:58
  how
• 45:58
  you
• 45:59
  did
• 45:59
  your
• 45:59
  character
• 46:00
  development.
• 46:00
  You
• 46:01
  have
• 46:01
  two
• 46:01
  main
• 46:02
  characters.
• 46:03
  You've
• 46:03
  got
• 46:03
  Kira
• 46:04
  and
• 46:05
  her
• 46:05
  relationship
• 46:06
  with
• 46:07
  her
• 46:07
  grandfather,
• 46:09
  and
• 46:09
  you've
• 46:10
  Got
• 46:10
  kd.
• 46:11
  And
• 46:11
  I
• 46:12
  don't
• 46:12
  want
• 46:12
  to
• 46:12
  give
• 46:12
  too
• 46:12
  much
• 46:13
  away,
• 46:14
  but
• 46:14
  I
• 46:14
  love
• 46:15
  kd.
• 46:16
  And
• 46:16
  I
• 46:16
  thought,
• 46:18
  who
• 46:18
  better
• 46:18
  to
• 46:19
  describe
• 46:19
  this
• 46:19
  whole
• 46:20
  technique
• 46:21
  and
• 46:21
  what
• 46:21
  Katie's
• 46:22
  all
• 46:22
  about
• 46:22
  than
• 46:23
  Catherine?
• 46:24
  So,
• 46:24
  Catherine,
• 46:26
  the
• 46:26
  floor
• 46:27
  is
• 46:27
  yours.
• 46:28
  Thank
• 46:29
  you.
• 46:29
  Thank
• 46:29
  you.
• 46:29
  My
• 46:29
  goodness.
• 46:31
  Yes.
• 46:31
  Yeah.
• 46:32
  When
• 46:32
  I
• 46:33
  originally
• 46:33
  thought
• 46:33
  of
• 46:34
  this
• 46:34
  story,
• 46:34
  believe
• 46:34
  it
• 46:35
  or
• 46:35
  not,
• 46:35
  it
• 46:35
  wasn't
• 46:36
  at
• 46:36
  all
• 46:36
  about
• 46:37
  a
• 46:37
  little
• 46:37
  girl
• 46:37
  or
• 46:38
  a
• 46:38
  drawing.
• 46:38
  It
• 46:38
  was
• 46:38
  actually
• 46:39
  about
• 46:39
  a
• 46:39
  snake.
• 46:40
  Speaking
• 46:40
  of
• 46:40
  crazy
• 46:41
  ideas
• 46:41
  and
• 46:41
  creative
• 46:42
  ideas,
• 46:42
  I
• 46:43
  had
• 46:43
  this
• 46:44
  strange
• 46:45
  idea
• 46:45
  of
• 46:46
  how
• 46:46
  would
• 46:47
  a
• 46:47
  snake
• 46:47
  try
• 46:47
  to
• 46:48
  get
• 46:48
  to
• 46:48
  the
• 46:48
  clouds
• 46:48
  because
• 46:49
  they
• 46:49
  are
• 46:49
  jealous
• 46:49
  of
• 46:50
  a
• 46:50
  bird?
• 46:51
  That's
• 46:51
  how
• 46:51
  this
• 46:52
  book
• 46:52
  actually
• 46:52
  originally
• 46:53
  began.
• 46:55
  Yeah,
• 46:55
  I
• 46:55
  wanted
• 46:55
  to
• 46:56
  use
• 46:56
  science
• 46:56
  and
• 46:57
  have
• 46:57
  the
• 46:57
  snake
• 46:57
  try
• 46:58
  all
• 46:58
  these
• 46:58
  different
• 46:58
  crazy
• 46:59
  attempts,
• 47:00
  but
• 47:00
  obviously
• 47:00
  that
• 47:01
  isn't
• 47:01
  how
• 47:01
  this
• 47:01
  book
• 47:02
  ended
• 47:02
  up.
• 47:03
  I
• 47:03
  started
• 47:04
  then
• 47:04
  thinking
• 47:05
  about
• 47:06
  loss
• 47:07
  for
• 47:07
  various
• 47:08
  different
• 47:08
  reasons.
• 47:08
  And
• 47:09
  then
• 47:09
  I
• 47:09
  started
• 47:09
  thinking
• 47:10
  about
• 47:10
  my
• 47:11
  father
• 47:11
  in
• 47:12
  law
• 47:12
  and
• 47:12
  my
• 47:12
  girls
• 47:13
  and
• 47:13
  how
• 47:13
  they
• 47:13
  had
• 47:14
  lost
• 47:14
  their
• 47:14
  father
• 47:15
  in
• 47:15
  law.
• 47:16
  And
• 47:16
  that
• 47:17
  kind
• 47:17
  of
• 47:17
  brought
• 47:17
  about
• 47:18
  this
• 47:18
  character,
• 47:19
  Kira.
• 47:20
  And
• 47:20
  I
• 47:20
  was
• 47:21
  thinking
• 47:21
  originally
• 47:22
  about
• 47:22
  how
• 47:22
  could
• 47:22
  I
• 47:22
  have
• 47:23
  Kira
• 47:23
  go
• 47:23
  to
• 47:23
  the
• 47:24
  clouds,
• 47:25
  how
• 47:25
  could
• 47:25
  I
• 47:25
  have
• 47:25
  Kira
• 47:26
  get
• 47:27
  to
• 47:27
  essentially
• 47:28
  heaven?
• 47:28
  And
• 47:29
  it
• 47:29
  just
• 47:29
  never
• 47:29
  really
• 47:29
  worked.
• 47:30
  I
• 47:30
  couldn't
• 47:30
  find
• 47:30
  a
• 47:31
  way
• 47:31
  to
• 47:31
  have
• 47:32
  that
• 47:32
  character
• 47:33
  get
• 47:33
  to
• 47:34
  heaven
• 47:35
  in
• 47:35
  a
• 47:35
  way
• 47:35
  that
• 47:36
  was
• 47:36
  realistic
• 47:37
  enough
• 47:37
  for
• 47:37
  me.
• 47:38
  Obviously
• 47:39
  there
• 47:39
  is
• 47:39
  some
• 47:39
  whimsy,
• 47:40
  there
• 47:40
  is
• 47:41
  some
• 47:42
  fantastical
• 47:43
  nature
• 47:43
  of
• 47:43
  the
• 47:44
  story,
• 47:44
  but
• 47:44
  it
• 47:45
  just
• 47:45
  didn't
• 47:45
  work
• 47:45
  for
• 47:45
  the
• 47:45
  little
• 47:46
  girl.
• 47:46
  So
• 47:46
  then
• 47:46
  I
• 47:46
  started
• 47:47
  thinking,
• 47:48
  what
• 47:48
  if
• 47:49
  she
• 47:50
  sent
• 47:50
  a
• 47:50
  picture
• 47:51
  or
• 47:51
  a
• 47:51
  letter
• 47:53
  and
• 47:53
  that
• 47:54
  can
• 47:54
  totally
• 47:55
  get
• 47:55
  up
• 47:55
  to
• 47:55
  the
• 47:55
  clouds?
• 47:56
  I
• 47:56
  can
• 47:56
  figure
• 47:56
  out
• 47:57
  a
• 47:57
  way
• 47:57
  to
• 47:58
  get
• 47:58
  a
• 47:59
  tangible,
• 47:59
  like
• 48:00
  piece
• 48:00
  of
• 48:00
  paper
• 48:00
  to
• 48:01
  the
• 48:01
  clouds,
• 48:02
  but
• 48:02
  I
• 48:02
  wanted
• 48:03
  it
• 48:03
  to
• 48:03
  be
• 48:03
  more
• 48:04
  than
• 48:04
  just
• 48:04
  a
• 48:04
  piece
• 48:04
  of
• 48:05
  paper.
• 48:05
  So
• 48:05
  I
• 48:06
  also
• 48:06
  wanted
• 48:06
  to
• 48:06
  have
• 48:07
  a
• 48:08
  safe
• 48:09
  vessel
• 48:10
  for
• 48:11
  a
• 48:11
  child
• 48:12
  to
• 48:13
  basically
• 48:14
  feel
• 48:14
  their
• 48:14
  feelings
• 48:15
  without
• 48:15
  it
• 48:15
  being
• 48:15
  direct,
• 48:16
  so
• 48:16
  to
• 48:17
  speak.
• 48:17
  So
• 48:18
  in
• 48:18
  the
• 48:19
  story,
• 48:20
  there's
• 48:20
  a
• 48:21
  part
• 48:21
  where
• 48:23
  the
• 48:23
  main
• 48:23
  character,
• 48:24
  Kira,
• 48:24
  draws
• 48:25
  a
• 48:25
  drawing.
• 48:26
  Katie.
• 48:27
  And
• 48:28
  Katie
• 48:29
  is
• 48:29
  lost
• 48:30
  at
• 48:30
  one
• 48:30
  point
• 48:30
  in
• 48:31
  time.
• 48:31
  And
• 48:31
  it
• 48:31
  really
• 48:31
  shows
• 48:32
  that
• 48:32
  feeling
• 48:33
  of
• 48:33
  hopelessness,
• 48:34
  that
• 48:34
  feeling
• 48:35
  of
• 48:36
  grief,
• 48:37
  that
• 48:37
  feeling
• 48:37
  of
• 48:38
  sadness
• 48:38
  that
• 48:39
  I
• 48:39
  think
• 48:39
  children
• 48:39
  do
• 48:40
  experience.
• 48:41
  But
• 48:41
  because
• 48:41
  it's
• 48:42
  talking
• 48:42
  about
• 48:43
  the
• 48:43
  picture,
• 48:44
  it's
• 48:44
  a
• 48:44
  little
• 48:45
  bit
• 48:45
  of
• 48:45
  a
• 48:45
  disconnect
• 48:45
  and
• 48:46
  it's
• 48:46
  a
• 48:46
  little
• 48:46
  safer
• 48:46
  for
• 48:47
  children,
• 48:48
  is
• 48:48
  what
• 48:48
  I
• 48:48
  was
• 48:48
  thinking.
• 48:49
  So
• 48:50
  the
• 48:50
  character
• 48:50
  development
• 48:51
  with
• 48:51
  it
• 48:51
  being
• 48:51
  a
• 48:52
  drawing,
• 48:52
  it
• 48:52
  didn't
• 48:52
  start
• 48:53
  out
• 48:53
  a
• 48:53
  drawing,
• 48:54
  but
• 48:55
  I
• 48:55
  really
• 48:55
  liked
• 48:56
  the
• 48:56
  whimsy.
• 48:56
  I
• 48:57
  liked
• 48:57
  being
• 48:57
  able
• 48:58
  to
• 48:58
  connect
• 48:58
  with
• 48:59
  the
• 49:00
  picture
• 49:00
  in
• 49:01
  a
• 49:01
  safe
• 49:01
  way
• 49:01
  for
• 49:01
  children.
• 49:02
  And
• 49:02
  I
• 49:03
  also
• 49:03
  really
• 49:03
  thought
• 49:04
  that
• 49:04
  it
• 49:04
  was
• 49:04
  important
• 49:05
  that
• 49:06
  at
• 49:06
  the
• 49:06
  end
• 49:06
  of
• 49:06
  the
• 49:07
  book,
• 49:07
  at
• 49:08
  the
• 49:08
  end
• 49:08
  of
• 49:08
  the
• 49:08
  story,
• 49:09
  there
• 49:10
  is
• 49:10
  a
• 49:10
  reconnection
• 49:11
  with
• 49:11
  Grandpa,
• 49:12
  which
• 49:12
  could
• 49:12
  only
• 49:13
  be
• 49:13
  done
• 49:13
  with
• 49:14
  a
• 49:14
  drawing
• 49:14
  or
• 49:14
  a
• 49:14
  Letter.
• 49:15
  I
• 49:15
  just
• 49:15
  love
• 49:16
  how
• 49:16
  he
• 49:16
  used
• 49:16
  that
• 49:17
  technique
• 49:17
  because
• 49:17
  a
• 49:18
  lot
• 49:18
  of
• 49:18
  times
• 49:19
  I
• 49:19
  talk
• 49:19
  to
• 49:20
  children's
• 49:20
  book
• 49:21
  authors
• 49:21
  and
• 49:21
  even
• 49:22
  myself,
• 49:22
  like
• 49:23
  when
• 49:23
  you
• 49:23
  have
• 49:23
  a
• 49:23
  plushie,
• 49:24
  then
• 49:25
  it's.
• 49:25
  It's
• 49:26
  an
• 49:26
  inanimate
• 49:26
  object.
• 49:27
  Recently
• 49:29
  interviewed
• 49:29
  a
• 49:30
  children's
• 49:30
  book
• 49:30
  author
• 49:31
  and
• 49:31
  he
• 49:31
  had
• 49:31
  a
• 49:32
  character,
• 49:32
  it
• 49:33
  was
• 49:33
  a
• 49:33
  fox,
• 49:34
  but
• 49:34
  he
• 49:35
  said
• 49:35
  to
• 49:35
  me
• 49:35
  what
• 49:36
  he
• 49:36
  didn't
• 49:36
  want
• 49:36
  the.
• 49:37
  In
• 49:37
  this
• 49:38
  case,
• 49:38
  he
• 49:38
  didn't
• 49:39
  want
• 49:39
  the
• 49:39
  fox
• 49:39
  to
• 49:40
  come
• 49:40
  to
• 49:40
  life.
• 49:41
  So
• 49:42
  in
• 49:42
  other
• 49:42
  words,
• 49:43
  to
• 49:43
  have
• 49:43
  a
• 49:44
  dialogue
• 49:44
  between
• 49:45
  the
• 49:45
  child
• 49:46
  who's
• 49:46
  the
• 49:46
  hero
• 49:47
  in
• 49:47
  the
• 49:47
  book
• 49:47
  and
• 49:48
  the
• 49:49
  inanimate
• 49:50
  fox
• 49:51
  or
• 49:51
  plushie.
• 49:52
  And
• 49:52
  he
• 49:52
  chose
• 49:53
  not
• 49:53
  to
• 49:53
  do
• 49:53
  that.
• 49:54
  Now,
• 49:54
  other
• 49:54
  children's
• 49:55
  book
• 49:55
  authors
• 49:56
  have
• 49:56
  that
• 49:56
  relationship
• 49:57
  where
• 49:58
  the
• 49:58
  plushie
• 49:59
  and
• 49:59
  the
• 49:59
  child
• 50:00
  have
• 50:00
  the
• 50:01
  conversation
• 50:02
  and
• 50:02
  their
• 50:02
  life
• 50:02
  together.
• 50:03
  Then
• 50:03
  in
• 50:03
  our
• 50:04
  case,
• 50:04
  we
• 50:04
  wrote
• 50:04
  our
• 50:05
  books
• 50:05
  where
• 50:06
  we
• 50:06
  took
• 50:07
  humans,
• 50:08
  us
• 50:09
  as
• 50:09
  co
• 50:09
  authors
• 50:10
  and
• 50:11
  put
• 50:11
  ourselves
• 50:12
  into
• 50:13
  characters,
• 50:14
  animals
• 50:15
  within
• 50:15
  our
• 50:15
  book.
• 50:16
  So
• 50:16
  that's
• 50:16
  this
• 50:16
  choice.
• 50:17
  I'm
• 50:17
  just
• 50:17
  describing
• 50:18
  all
• 50:18
  this
• 50:18
  to
• 50:19
  people
• 50:19
  to
• 50:19
  understand
• 50:20
  that
• 50:20
  what
• 50:21
  Catherine
• 50:21
  did
• 50:22
  here
• 50:22
  was
• 50:22
  phenomenal
• 50:23
  because
• 50:24
  she.
• 50:24
  It
• 50:25
  was.
• 50:25
  I'd
• 50:25
  never
• 50:25
  seen
• 50:26
  this
• 50:26
  before,
• 50:26
  Catherine,
• 50:27
  so
• 50:27
  I
• 50:27
  loved
• 50:27
  it.
• 50:28
  How
• 50:28
  you
• 50:28
  were
• 50:28
  able
• 50:29
  to
• 50:29
  bring
• 50:29
  life
• 50:30
  to
• 50:31
  a
• 50:32
  picture,
• 50:34
  how
• 50:34
  it
• 50:34
  took
• 50:35
  on
• 50:35
  a
• 50:35
  life
• 50:35
  of
• 50:36
  its
• 50:36
  own,
• 50:36
  how
• 50:36
  it
• 50:37
  went
• 50:37
  on
• 50:37
  adventures.
• 50:39
  I
• 50:39
  don't
• 50:39
  want
• 50:39
  to
• 50:39
  say
• 50:40
  on
• 50:40
  its
• 50:40
  own
• 50:40
  because
• 50:41
  Kira
• 50:42
  and
• 50:42
  her
• 50:42
  dad
• 50:43
  came
• 50:43
  into
• 50:44
  the
• 50:44
  story,
• 50:45
  but
• 50:45
  it
• 50:46
  was
• 50:46
  all
• 50:46
  those
• 50:46
  adventures
• 50:47
  and
• 50:48
  mistrials
• 50:49
  or
• 50:50
  that
• 50:50
  kind
• 50:51
  of
• 50:51
  thing,
• 50:51
  and
• 50:51
  it
• 50:51
  made
• 50:51
  it
• 50:52
  so
• 50:52
  much
• 50:52
  fun
• 50:52
  to
• 50:52
  read.
• 50:53
  Thank
• 50:53
  you
• 50:53
  for
• 50:53
  sharing
• 50:54
  that.
• 50:54
  Good
• 50:54
  for
• 50:55
  you
• 50:55
  on
• 50:55
  that
• 50:55
  technique.
• 50:56
  Yeah,
• 50:56
  absolutely.
• 50:57
  Thank
• 50:57
  you
• 50:57
  so
• 50:58
  much
• 50:58
  for
• 50:58
  the
• 50:58
  compliments.
• 50:59
  The
• 50:59
  one
• 50:59
  thing
• 50:59
  I
• 51:00
  will
• 51:00
  mention
• 51:00
  for
• 51:01
  anyone
• 51:01
  who
• 51:01
  might
• 51:02
  want
• 51:02
  to
• 51:02
  do
• 51:03
  something
• 51:03
  very
• 51:04
  similar
• 51:04
  in
• 51:04
  the
• 51:05
  future
• 51:05
  is
• 51:06
  I
• 51:06
  struggled
• 51:07
  with
• 51:08
  maintaining
• 51:10
  the
• 51:11
  proper
• 51:12
  point
• 51:12
  of
• 51:12
  view
• 51:13
  for
• 51:14
  the
• 51:14
  dialogue,
• 51:15
  for
• 51:15
  the
• 51:15
  action.
• 51:16
  It
• 51:17
  was
• 51:17
  really
• 51:17
  important
• 51:18
  for
• 51:18
  those
• 51:18
  critique
• 51:19
  groups
• 51:19
  that
• 51:19
  I
• 51:19
  talked
• 51:20
  about
• 51:20
  to
• 51:20
  get
• 51:21
  that
• 51:21
  feedback
• 51:22
  of
• 51:24
  how
• 51:24
  could
• 51:24
  KD
• 51:26
  know
• 51:26
  XYZ
• 51:28
  without
• 51:28
  Kira
• 51:29
  being
• 51:29
  there?
• 51:29
  Or
• 51:29
  wouldn't
• 51:30
  Kira
• 51:30
  feel
• 51:30
  this
• 51:31
  rather
• 51:31
  than
• 51:31
  kd?
• 51:32
  So
• 51:32
  making
• 51:32
  sure
• 51:32
  that
• 51:32
  there
• 51:33
  was
• 51:33
  a
• 51:33
  true,
• 51:34
  clear
• 51:34
  separation
• 51:35
  between
• 51:36
  the
• 51:36
  characters
• 51:37
  and
• 51:37
  making
• 51:37
  sure
• 51:38
  that
• 51:38
  the
• 51:38
  story
• 51:38
  aligned
• 51:39
  properly
• 51:40
  with
• 51:40
  KD
• 51:41
  rather
• 51:41
  than
• 51:42
  Kira.
• 51:42
  So
• 51:43
  that
• 51:43
  is
• 51:43
  something
• 51:44
  to
• 51:44
  watch
• 51:44
  out
• 51:44
  for.
• 51:45
  You
• 51:45
  did
• 51:45
  a
• 51:45
  great
• 51:46
  job
• 51:47
  for
• 51:47
  sharing
• 51:47
  that
• 51:47
  technique.
• 51:49
  I
• 51:49
  want
• 51:49
  to
• 51:49
  talk
• 51:50
  to
• 51:50
  you
• 51:50
  about.
• 51:52
  Now
• 51:52
  that
• 51:52
  you've
• 51:53
  written
• 51:53
  and
• 51:54
  published
• 51:54
  three
• 51:54
  children's
• 51:55
  books,
• 51:55
  you're
• 51:55
  about
• 51:56
  to
• 51:56
  move
• 51:56
  into
• 51:56
  your
• 51:57
  fourth.
• 51:58
  But
• 51:58
  I'm
• 51:58
  curious,
• 51:59
  with
• 51:59
  the
• 51:59
  three
• 51:59
  books
• 52:00
  that
• 52:00
  you've
• 52:00
  written
• 52:00
  so
• 52:01
  far,
• 52:02
  do
• 52:02
  you
• 52:02
  have.
• 52:03
  Because
• 52:03
  I
• 52:03
  know
• 52:03
  we
• 52:04
  talked
• 52:04
  about
• 52:04
  Ella's
• 52:05
  Way,
• 52:05
  but
• 52:05
  do
• 52:06
  you
• 52:06
  have
• 52:06
  an
• 52:06
  underlying
• 52:07
  theme
• 52:08
  to
• 52:08
  all
• 52:08
  of
• 52:09
  your
• 52:09
  books
• 52:10
  that
• 52:11
  are
• 52:11
  interconnected?
• 52:12
  Or
• 52:13
  would
• 52:13
  you
• 52:13
  say
• 52:14
  it's
• 52:15
  always
• 52:15
  separate?
• 52:16
  So
• 52:17
  far
• 52:17
  they've
• 52:18
  been
• 52:18
  separate.
• 52:19
  I
• 52:20
  think
• 52:20
  two
• 52:21
  of
• 52:21
  my
• 52:21
  published
• 52:22
  books
• 52:22
  do
• 52:23
  cover
• 52:23
  the
• 52:23
  topic
• 52:24
  of
• 52:24
  grief,
• 52:25
  one
• 52:25
  for
• 52:26
  pet
• 52:26
  loss
• 52:26
  and
• 52:26
  one
• 52:27
  for
• 52:27
  a
• 52:28
  loss
• 52:28
  of
• 52:28
  a
• 52:28
  grandparent.
• 52:30
  But
• 52:30
  I
• 52:30
  think
• 52:30
  so
• 52:31
  far,
• 52:31
  if
• 52:31
  you're
• 52:32
  looking
• 52:32
  for
• 52:32
  an
• 52:32
  underlying
• 52:33
  theme
• 52:33
  for
• 52:34
  the
• 52:34
  other
• 52:34
  books
• 52:34
  that
• 52:34
  aren't
• 52:35
  related
• 52:35
  to
• 52:35
  grief,
• 52:36
  I
• 52:36
  would
• 52:36
  say
• 52:36
  it's
• 52:37
  courage.
• 52:38
  I
• 52:38
  would
• 52:38
  say
• 52:38
  it's
• 52:38
  bravery.
• 52:39
  I
• 52:39
  would
• 52:39
  say
• 52:40
  it's
• 52:40
  listening
• 52:41
  to
• 52:41
  your
• 52:41
  heart
• 52:41
  and
• 52:42
  being
• 52:42
  who
• 52:42
  you
• 52:42
  are.
• 52:43
  Those
• 52:44
  would
• 52:44
  be
• 52:44
  the
• 52:45
  underlying
• 52:45
  themes
• 52:46
  for
• 52:46
  the
• 52:47
  books
• 52:47
  that
• 52:47
  I
• 52:47
  have.
• 52:48
  Tina
• 52:49
  in
• 52:49
  the
• 52:49
  Mysterious
• 52:49
  Case
• 52:50
  of
• 52:50
  Dan
• 52:50
  Zaitis,
• 52:51
  which
• 52:51
  is
• 52:51
  currently
• 52:51
  published,
• 52:52
  and
• 52:53
  then
• 52:53
  Rocky,
• 52:54
  my
• 52:54
  next
• 52:54
  character,
• 52:55
  Rookie
• 52:56
  Knickerbocker.
• 52:57
  Again,
• 52:57
  it's
• 52:57
  on
• 52:58
  the
• 52:58
  theme
• 52:58
  of
• 52:58
  courage.
• 52:59
  And
• 53:00
  regardless
• 53:00
  of
• 53:01
  what
• 53:01
  other
• 53:01
  people
• 53:01
  say
• 53:02
  or
• 53:02
  think,
• 53:03
  you
• 53:03
  be
• 53:03
  true
• 53:03
  to
• 53:04
  yourself.
• 53:04
  You
• 53:05
  find
• 53:05
  a
• 53:05
  problem,
• 53:05
  you
• 53:05
  find
• 53:06
  a
• 53:06
  solution,
• 53:06
  and
• 53:07
  you
• 53:08
  follow
• 53:08
  through
• 53:08
  with
• 53:08
  that
• 53:09
  solution.
• 53:09
  Regardless.
• 53:10
  We
• 53:11
  talked
• 53:11
  about
• 53:12
  educators
• 53:13
  and
• 53:14
  educators,
• 53:15
  whether
• 53:15
  they're
• 53:16
  elementary
• 53:16
  teachers
• 53:17
  or
• 53:17
  they're
• 53:18
  early
• 53:18
  development
• 53:19
  educators.
• 53:21
  I've
• 53:21
  talked
• 53:21
  about
• 53:21
  lesson
• 53:22
  plans
• 53:22
  and
• 53:23
  that
• 53:23
  kind
• 53:23
  of
• 53:24
  caught
• 53:24
  me
• 53:24
  off
• 53:24
  guard
• 53:24
  a
• 53:25
  bit.
• 53:25
  But
• 53:25
  I
• 53:25
  thought
• 53:25
  that's
• 53:26
  a
• 53:26
  neat
• 53:26
  idea
• 53:26
  and
• 53:27
  of
• 53:27
  course
• 53:27
  that
• 53:27
  would
• 53:27
  be
• 53:28
  seen
• 53:28
  through
• 53:28
  the
• 53:28
  eyes
• 53:28
  of
• 53:29
  the
• 53:29
  educator.
• 53:30
  But
• 53:30
  I
• 53:30
  was
• 53:30
  noticing
• 53:31
  with
• 53:31
  your
• 53:31
  book
• 53:32
  at
• 53:32
  the
• 53:32
  very
• 53:32
  back,
• 53:33
  and
• 53:33
  I
• 53:33
  want
• 53:33
  to
• 53:33
  tell
• 53:33
  everybody,
• 53:34
  Katherine
• 53:35
  has
• 53:35
  added
• 53:35
  a
• 53:36
  ton
• 53:36
  of
• 53:36
  value
• 53:37
  at
• 53:37
  the
• 53:37
  back
• 53:37
  of
• 53:37
  the
• 53:38
  book,
• 53:38
  Katie's
• 53:39
  Journey,
• 53:40
  because
• 53:40
  it
• 53:40
  adds
• 53:40
  real
• 53:41
  value.
• 53:41
  So
• 53:41
  can
• 53:42
  you
• 53:42
  talk
• 53:42
  to
• 53:42
  us
• 53:42
  about
• 53:43
  these
• 53:44
  activity
• 53:45
  pages
• 53:45
  that
• 53:45
  you
• 53:45
  have
• 53:46
  at
• 53:46
  the
• 53:47
  back
• 53:47
  of
• 53:47
  the
• 53:47
  book
• 53:48
  and
• 53:48
  the
• 53:49
  purpose
• 53:49
  that
• 53:49
  you're
• 53:49
  trying
• 53:50
  to
• 53:50
  convey?
• 53:51
  I
• 53:51
  will
• 53:51
  also
• 53:52
  have
• 53:52
  to
• 53:52
  give
• 53:52
  a
• 53:52
  thank
• 53:52
  you
• 53:53
  and
• 53:53
  a
• 53:53
  shout
• 53:53
  out
• 53:53
  to
• 53:53
  Heather
• 53:54
  again
• 53:54
  because
• 53:54
  she
• 53:55
  was
• 53:55
  the
• 53:56
  person
• 53:56
  who
• 53:57
  pushed
• 53:57
  me
• 53:57
  to
• 53:58
  do
• 53:58
  more
• 53:58
  when
• 53:59
  I
• 53:59
  published
• 54:00
  my
• 54:00
  very
• 54:00
  first
• 54:00
  book,
• 54:01
  Jude.
• 54:01
  Jude's
• 54:02
  Best
• 54:02
  Worst
• 54:02
  Day
• 54:02
  Ever.
• 54:03
  Heather
• 54:04
  said.
• 54:04
  Add
• 54:05
  more.
• 54:05
  Do
• 54:05
  something
• 54:05
  to
• 54:06
  separate
• 54:06
  yourself,
• 54:06
  but
• 54:07
  make
• 54:07
  it
• 54:07
  something
• 54:07
  that
• 54:08
  will
• 54:08
  help
• 54:08
  others.
• 54:08
  And
• 54:09
  very
• 54:09
  similar
• 54:09
  with
• 54:09
  Jude
• 54:10
  and
• 54:10
  with
• 54:10
  Katie's
• 54:11
  Journey,
• 54:12
  I
• 54:12
  wanted
• 54:12
  to
• 54:13
  add
• 54:13
  information
• 54:15
  that
• 54:15
  could
• 54:15
  be
• 54:15
  helpful
• 54:16
  for
• 54:16
  caregivers,
• 54:17
  adults,
• 54:18
  and
• 54:18
  children.
• 54:19
  In
• 54:19
  Katie's
• 54:20
  Journey.
• 54:20
  I
• 54:20
  have
• 54:21
  in
• 54:21
  the
• 54:21
  very
• 54:22
  back
• 54:22
  some
• 54:22
  information
• 54:23
  about
• 54:23
  how
• 54:23
  children
• 54:24
  and
• 54:24
  caregivers
• 54:25
  can
• 54:25
  do
• 54:25
  various
• 54:26
  different
• 54:26
  activities
• 54:27
  to
• 54:27
  honor
• 54:27
  the
• 54:27
  loss
• 54:28
  of
• 54:28
  a
• 54:28
  loved
• 54:28
  one.
• 54:29
  So
• 54:29
  it
• 54:30
  could
• 54:30
  include
• 54:31
  creating
• 54:31
  a
• 54:31
  memorial
• 54:32
  display
• 54:32
  or
• 54:33
  creating
• 54:33
  a
• 54:33
  scrapbook.
• 54:35
  Write
• 54:35
  a
• 54:36
  letter
• 54:36
  to
• 54:36
  your
• 54:37
  loved
• 54:37
  one.
• 54:38
  Create
• 54:38
  a
• 54:39
  memorial
• 54:39
  video
• 54:40
  of
• 54:41
  your
• 54:41
  loved
• 54:41
  one.
• 54:42
  I
• 54:42
  also
• 54:42
  have
• 54:44
  something
• 54:44
  that's
• 54:44
  important,
• 54:45
  a
• 54:45
  little
• 54:45
  blurb
• 54:45
  about
• 54:46
  how
• 54:46
  children
• 54:47
  can
• 54:47
  often
• 54:48
  find
• 54:48
  it
• 54:48
  difficult
• 54:49
  to
• 54:49
  express
• 54:49
  their
• 54:49
  feelings.
• 54:50
  They
• 54:50
  may
• 54:50
  not
• 54:50
  have
• 54:51
  the
• 54:51
  verbiage
• 54:52
  or
• 54:52
  they
• 54:53
  may
• 54:53
  not
• 54:53
  know
• 54:53
  the
• 54:53
  words
• 54:54
  to
• 54:54
  say
• 54:55
  how
• 54:55
  they're
• 54:55
  feeling.
• 54:56
  So
• 54:57
  I
• 54:57
  have
• 54:57
  a
• 54:57
  list
• 54:57
  of
• 54:58
  questions
• 54:59
  that
• 55:00
  I
• 55:00
  highly
• 55:00
  recommend
• 55:01
  caregivers
• 55:03
  go
• 55:04
  over
• 55:04
  with
• 55:05
  their
• 55:06
  child,
• 55:07
  not
• 55:07
  only
• 55:07
  for
• 55:08
  the
• 55:08
  child
• 55:08
  to
• 55:08
  answer,
• 55:09
  but
• 55:09
  even
• 55:09
  more
• 55:09
  importantly
• 55:10
  for
• 55:10
  the
• 55:10
  caregiver
• 55:11
  to
• 55:11
  Answer
• 55:11
  such
• 55:11
  as,
• 55:12
  what
• 55:12
  did
• 55:12
  your
• 55:12
  loved
• 55:13
  one
• 55:13
  enjoy
• 55:14
  most?
• 55:14
  What
• 55:15
  do
• 55:15
  you
• 55:15
  miss
• 55:15
  most
• 55:16
  about
• 55:16
  your
• 55:16
  loved
• 55:17
  one?
• 55:17
  Et
• 55:17
  cetera.
• 55:18
  It
• 55:19
  helps
• 55:19
  children
• 55:20
  process
• 55:21
  their
• 55:21
  emotions
• 55:22
  and
• 55:22
  it
• 55:22
  also
• 55:23
  helps
• 55:23
  give
• 55:23
  them
• 55:24
  the
• 55:24
  vocabulary
• 55:25
  to
• 55:26
  express
• 55:26
  themselves.
• 55:27
  I
• 55:27
  also
• 55:28
  have
• 55:28
  a
• 55:28
  picture
• 55:29
  frame
• 55:29
  that
• 55:30
  they
• 55:30
  can
• 55:30
  put
• 55:30
  a
• 55:31
  picture
• 55:31
  of
• 55:31
  their
• 55:31
  loved
• 55:32
  one
• 55:32
  in
• 55:32
  that
• 55:32
  they
• 55:33
  can
• 55:33
  color
• 55:33
  around
• 55:34
  in
• 55:34
  the
• 55:35
  book.
• 55:35
  And
• 55:35
  then
• 55:36
  I
• 55:36
  also
• 55:37
  have
• 55:37
  journaling
• 55:38
  space
• 55:39
  for
• 55:39
  journaling
• 55:39
  with
• 55:40
  some
• 55:40
  journal
• 55:40
  prompts.
• 55:41
  I
• 55:41
  love
• 55:41
  that
• 55:42
  because
• 55:42
  even
• 55:42
  as
• 55:42
  a
• 55:43
  caregiver,
• 55:44
  those
• 55:44
  questions,
• 55:44
  I've
• 55:45
  lost
• 55:45
  my
• 55:45
  mom
• 55:45
  and
• 55:46
  dad.
• 55:46
  They're
• 55:46
  no
• 55:46
  longer
• 55:47
  with
• 55:47
  us.
• 55:47
  And
• 55:48
  so
• 55:48
  those
• 55:48
  questions
• 55:49
  actually
• 55:50
  resonated
• 55:51
  with
• 55:51
  me
• 55:52
  and
• 55:53
  they
• 55:53
  can
• 55:53
  be
• 55:54
  inspirational.
• 55:55
  Your
• 55:56
  activity
• 55:56
  pages
• 55:57
  tie
• 55:57
  nicely
• 55:58
  into
• 55:58
  your
• 55:58
  book.
• 55:59
  Yeah.
• 56:00
  And
• 56:00
  with
• 56:00
  Tina
• 56:00
  and
• 56:00
  the
• 56:00
  Mysterious
• 56:01
  Case
• 56:01
  of
• 56:01
  Danzitis.
• 56:02
  I
• 56:02
  really
• 56:02
  love
• 56:03
  the
• 56:03
  back
• 56:03
  of
• 56:03
  this
• 56:04
  book
• 56:04
  because
• 56:04
  it
• 56:04
  talks
• 56:05
  about
• 56:05
  affirmations
• 56:07
  and
• 56:07
  it
• 56:07
  has
• 56:08
  information
• 56:08
  about
• 56:08
  what
• 56:09
  affirmations
• 56:09
  are.
• 56:10
  But
• 56:10
  it
• 56:10
  also
• 56:10
  has
• 56:11
  little
• 56:11
  cards
• 56:12
  that
• 56:12
  children
• 56:13
  can
• 56:13
  cut
• 56:14
  out
• 56:14
  with
• 56:15
  affirmations
• 56:15
  on
• 56:15
  them
• 56:16
  and
• 56:16
  they
• 56:16
  can
• 56:16
  post
• 56:17
  those
• 56:17
  on
• 56:18
  their
• 56:19
  fridge,
• 56:19
  the
• 56:19
  mirror
• 56:20
  in
• 56:20
  their
• 56:20
  bathroom,
• 56:21
  maybe
• 56:21
  in
• 56:22
  their
• 56:22
  locker
• 56:22
  as
• 56:22
  they
• 56:23
  get
• 56:23
  older.
• 56:23
  And
• 56:23
  I
• 56:24
  just
• 56:24
  want
• 56:24
  to
• 56:24
  point
• 56:24
  out
• 56:24
  that
• 56:25
  anyone
• 56:25
  can
• 56:26
  get
• 56:26
  access
• 56:26
  to
• 56:27
  these
• 56:27
  affirmation
• 56:28
  cards
• 56:28
  on
• 56:28
  my
• 56:28
  website
• 56:29
  for
• 56:29
  free.
• 56:29
  You
• 56:30
  don't
• 56:30
  have
• 56:30
  to
• 56:30
  put
• 56:30
  in
• 56:30
  your
• 56:31
  email
• 56:31
  address.
• 56:31
  You
• 56:31
  don't
• 56:32
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• 56:32
  to
• 56:32
  do
• 56:32
  anything.
• 56:32
  I
• 56:32
  want
• 56:32
  these
• 56:33
  available
• 56:33
  for
• 56:33
  children
• 56:34
  to
• 56:34
  promote
• 56:35
  affirmations
• 56:36
  and
• 56:36
  positive
• 56:36
  thinking.
• 56:37
  So
• 56:37
  if
• 56:38
  you
• 56:38
  just
• 56:38
  go
• 56:38
  to
• 56:38
  my
• 56:38
  website,
• 56:39
  there's
• 56:39
  a
• 56:39
  download
• 56:40
  link,
• 56:40
  totally
• 56:41
  free.
• 56:42
  Don't
• 56:42
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• 56:42
  have
• 56:42
  to
• 56:42
  put
• 56:42
  in
• 56:43
  your
• 56:43
  email
• 56:43
  address
• 56:44
  and
• 56:44
  you
• 56:44
  can
• 56:44
  download
• 56:44
  the
• 56:45
  affirmations,
• 56:45
  cut
• 56:46
  them
• 56:46
  out
• 56:46
  with
• 56:47
  your
• 56:47
  children.
• 56:48
  Awesome.
• 56:49
  I
• 56:49
  love
• 56:49
  that.
• 56:50
  It's
• 56:50
  interesting
• 56:50
  too,
• 56:51
  because
• 56:52
  we
• 56:52
  actually
• 56:52
  added.
• 56:53
  And
• 56:54
  it's
• 56:54
  been
• 56:54
  growing.
• 56:55
  We
• 56:55
  added
• 56:55
  activity
• 56:56
  pages
• 56:56
  to
• 56:57
  our
• 56:57
  books
• 56:58
  because
• 56:58
  my
• 56:59
  granddaughter
• 56:59
  and
• 56:59
  I
• 57:00
  wrote
• 57:01
  stories
• 57:01
  together.
• 57:02
  That's
• 57:02
  what
• 57:02
  I
• 57:03
  did.
• 57:03
  We
• 57:03
  put
• 57:03
  in
• 57:03
  activity
• 57:04
  pages
• 57:04
  for
• 57:05
  you
• 57:05
  and
• 57:06
  your
• 57:06
  child
• 57:06
  or
• 57:06
  grandchild
• 57:07
  to
• 57:07
  write
• 57:07
  a
• 57:07
  story.
• 57:08
  And
• 57:08
  then
• 57:08
  we
• 57:09
  even
• 57:09
  used
• 57:09
  railway
• 57:10
  tracks
• 57:11
  as
• 57:11
  picture
• 57:11
  frames
• 57:12
  so
• 57:12
  you
• 57:13
  could
• 57:13
  actually
• 57:13
  draw
• 57:14
  your
• 57:14
  story
• 57:15
  out.
• 57:15
  And
• 57:15
  then
• 57:16
  it's
• 57:16
  grown
• 57:16
  from
• 57:16
  there.
• 57:16
  Because
• 57:17
  in
• 57:17
  our
• 57:17
  second
• 57:18
  book,
• 57:18
  my
• 57:19
  youngest
• 57:19
  granddaughter
• 57:20
  teaches
• 57:21
  you
• 57:22
  how
• 57:22
  to
• 57:22
  draw
• 57:23
  a
• 57:23
  character.
• 57:24
  That's
• 57:24
  the
• 57:24
  value
• 57:24
  added
• 57:25
  we
• 57:25
  added.
• 57:25
  So
• 57:26
  I'm
• 57:26
  glad
• 57:26
  you're
• 57:26
  doing
• 57:26
  that.
• 57:27
  And
• 57:27
  again,
• 57:28
  I
• 57:28
  bring
• 57:28
  that
• 57:28
  up
• 57:28
  so
• 57:29
  that
• 57:29
  again,
• 57:29
  as
• 57:30
  an
• 57:30
  aspiring
• 57:30
  children's
• 57:31
  book
• 57:31
  authors,
• 57:32
  when
• 57:32
  you're
• 57:32
  looking
• 57:33
  at
• 57:33
  your
• 57:33
  book,
• 57:33
  think
• 57:34
  about
• 57:34
  how,
• 57:35
  as
• 57:35
  Catherine's
• 57:36
  done,
• 57:37
  adding
• 57:37
  that
• 57:38
  value
• 57:39
  to
• 57:39
  the
• 57:39
  connection
• 57:40
  to
• 57:40
  the
• 57:40
  story.
• 57:41
  I
• 57:41
  think
• 57:42
  it
• 57:42
  makes
• 57:42
  your
• 57:42
  book
• 57:43
  live
• 57:43
  longer
• 57:45
  writing
• 57:45
  process.
• 57:46
  When
• 57:46
  I
• 57:46
  went
• 57:46
  on
• 57:47
  your
• 57:47
  website,
• 57:47
  I
• 57:47
  think
• 57:47
  you're.
• 57:48
  You've
• 57:49
  got
• 57:50
  three
• 57:50
  more
• 57:51
  books
• 57:52
  in
• 57:53
  mind,
• 57:54
  at
• 57:54
  least.
• 57:55
  Yeah.
• 57:56
  You're
• 57:56
  standing
• 57:56
  on
• 57:57
  the
• 57:58
  stage
• 57:58
  and
• 57:58
  you're
• 57:59
  saying,
• 57:59
  world,
• 58:00
  I'm
• 58:01
  a
• 58:01
  Children's
• 58:01
  book
• 58:01
  author.
• 58:02
  And
• 58:03
  guess
• 58:03
  what?
• 58:04
  I
• 58:04
  got
• 58:04
  more
• 58:04
  coming.
• 58:05
  Oh,
• 58:06
  yes,
• 58:06
  tell
• 58:06
  us
• 58:06
  about
• 58:07
  that.
• 58:08
  Yes.
• 58:09
  Make
• 58:09
  sure
• 58:09
  you
• 58:09
  tie
• 58:10
  it
• 58:10
  into
• 58:10
  your
• 58:10
  writing
• 58:10
  process.
• 58:11
  That's
• 58:12
  where
• 58:12
  I
• 58:12
  was
• 58:13
  taking
• 58:13
  this.
• 58:14
  Yeah,
• 58:14
  absolutely.
• 58:15
  When
• 58:16
  I
• 58:16
  first
• 58:16
  started
• 58:17
  this
• 58:17
  journey
• 58:18
  specifically
• 58:18
  to
• 58:19
  become
• 58:19
  a
• 58:19
  children's
• 58:20
  book
• 58:20
  author,
• 58:21
  I
• 58:21
  came
• 58:21
  across
• 58:22
  a
• 58:22
  very
• 58:22
  good
• 58:23
  friend
• 58:23
  of
• 58:23
  mine,
• 58:23
  Andrea
• 58:24
  recommended
• 58:25
  that
• 58:25
  I
• 58:25
  read
• 58:25
  a
• 58:26
  book
• 58:26
  by
• 58:26
  Ann
• 58:26
  Woodford
• 58:27
  Paul
• 58:27
  called
• 58:27
  Writing
• 58:28
  Picture
• 58:28
  Books.
• 58:29
  And
• 58:30
  that
• 58:30
  book
• 58:31
  has
• 58:32
  been
• 58:32
  a
• 58:32
  springboard
• 58:33
  to
• 58:33
  my
• 58:33
  creative
• 58:34
  process.
• 58:34
  I
• 58:35
  don't
• 58:35
  follow
• 58:35
  her
• 58:36
  recommendations
• 58:37
  or
• 58:38
  her
• 58:38
  guidelines.
• 58:39
  I
• 58:39
  don't
• 58:40
  follow
• 58:40
  it
• 58:40
  exactly.
• 58:41
  But
• 58:41
  I
• 58:42
  did
• 58:42
  utilize
• 58:43
  some
• 58:43
  of
• 58:43
  that.
• 58:43
  When
• 58:43
  it
• 58:44
  comes
• 58:44
  to
• 58:44
  the
• 58:44
  creative
• 58:45
  process
• 58:45
  for
• 58:47
  the
• 58:47
  books
• 58:48
  and
• 58:48
  the
• 58:49
  ideas
• 58:49
  that
• 58:49
  I've
• 58:49
  come
• 58:50
  up
• 58:50
  with,
• 58:50
  a
• 58:51
  lot
• 58:51
  of
• 58:51
  times
• 58:52
  I'll
• 58:52
  just
• 58:52
  be
• 58:53
  in
• 58:54
  the
• 58:54
  middle
• 58:54
  of
• 58:54
  mundane
• 58:55
  tasks
• 58:55
  and
• 58:55
  they
• 58:55
  just
• 58:56
  pop
• 58:56
  into
• 58:56
  my
• 58:56
  head.
• 58:57
  The
• 58:57
  idea
• 58:57
  for
• 58:57
  Tina
• 58:58
  and
• 58:58
  the
• 58:58
  Mysterious
• 58:58
  Case
• 58:59
  of
• 58:59
  Danzitis
• 58:59
  came
• 59:00
  to
• 59:00
  me
• 59:00
  while
• 59:00
  I
• 59:00
  was
• 59:00
  driving
• 59:01
  up
• 59:01
  to
• 59:01
  do
• 59:01
  some
• 59:02
  volunteer
• 59:02
  work.
• 59:03
  How
• 59:03
  did
• 59:03
  you
• 59:04
  capture
• 59:04
  that
• 59:05
  idea
• 59:06
  before.
• 59:07
  Before
• 59:07
  it
• 59:07
  ran
• 59:08
  out
• 59:08
  of
• 59:09
  your
• 59:09
  brain?
• 59:09
  No
• 59:10
  longer
• 59:10
  there.
• 59:10
  The
• 59:11
  capture
• 59:11
  part,
• 59:12
  the
• 59:12
  capture
• 59:13
  was
• 59:14
  driving.
• 59:14
  So
• 59:14
  I
• 59:15
  was
• 59:15
  trying
• 59:15
  to
• 59:15
  be
• 59:15
  safe
• 59:15
  and
• 59:16
  I
• 59:16
  popped
• 59:17
  open
• 59:17
  on
• 59:17
  my
• 59:18
  phone,
• 59:18
  the
• 59:18
  notes,
• 59:19
  and
• 59:19
  I
• 59:19
  pressed
• 59:19
  audio
• 59:20
  and
• 59:20
  I
• 59:20
  just
• 59:20
  spoke
• 59:21
  into
• 59:21
  my
• 59:21
  phone
• 59:22
  so
• 59:22
  that
• 59:22
  it
• 59:23
  was
• 59:23
  safe.
• 59:23
  I
• 59:23
  could
• 59:23
  drive
• 59:24
  both
• 59:24
  hands
• 59:24
  pretty
• 59:25
  much
• 59:25
  on
• 59:25
  the
• 59:25
  wheel.
• 59:26
  And
• 59:26
  the
• 59:27
  idea
• 59:28
  is
• 59:28
  essentially,
• 59:29
  essentially
• 59:29
  almost
• 59:29
  identical
• 59:30
  to
• 59:30
  what
• 59:30
  the
• 59:31
  book
• 59:31
  is.
• 59:31
  So
• 59:31
  I
• 59:31
  didn't
• 59:32
  really
• 59:32
  change
• 59:32
  that
• 59:32
  one
• 59:33
  very
• 59:33
  much
• 59:33
  at
• 59:33
  all.
• 59:34
  Another
• 59:34
  idea
• 59:35
  that
• 59:35
  came
• 59:35
  to
• 59:35
  me
• 59:36
  was
• 59:37
  when
• 59:37
  I
• 59:37
  was
• 59:37
  sweeping
• 59:38
  up
• 59:38
  a
• 59:38
  mess
• 59:39
  that
• 59:39
  my
• 59:39
  children
• 59:40
  had
• 59:40
  after
• 59:40
  lunch
• 59:41
  and
• 59:42
  I
• 59:42
  had
• 59:42
  this
• 59:43
  idea
• 59:43
  of
• 59:44
  what
• 59:44
  if
• 59:45
  there
• 59:45
  were
• 59:46
  little
• 59:46
  mess
• 59:46
  making
• 59:47
  gremlins
• 59:47
  that
• 59:48
  existed
• 59:48
  in
• 59:48
  the
• 59:48
  world,
• 59:49
  but
• 59:49
  only
• 59:49
  children
• 59:50
  could
• 59:50
  see
• 59:50
  them?
• 59:51
  And
• 59:52
  whenever
• 59:52
  they
• 59:52
  would
• 59:53
  make
• 59:53
  a
• 59:53
  mess,
• 59:53
  they
• 59:54
  would
• 59:54
  blame
• 59:54
  it
• 59:54
  on
• 59:55
  these
• 59:55
  mess
• 59:55
  making
• 59:56
  gremlins.
• 59:57
  And
• 59:57
  of
• 59:57
  course
• 59:57
  the
• 59:57
  parents
• 59:58
  would
• 59:59
  think
• 59:59
  they're
• 59:59
  crazy.
• 59:59
  And
• 1:00:00
  of
• 1:00:00
  course
• 1:00:00
  there's
• 1:00:00
  no
• 1:00:00
  mess
• 1:00:00
  making
• 1:00:01
  gremlins.
• 1:00:02
  And
• 1:00:02
  so
• 1:00:02
  that's
• 1:00:02
  another
• 1:00:02
  idea
• 1:00:03
  for
• 1:00:03
  a
• 1:00:03
  book
• 1:00:03
  that's
• 1:00:03
  already
• 1:00:04
  written.
• 1:00:04
  It's
• 1:00:04
  just
• 1:00:05
  in
• 1:00:05
  the
• 1:00:06
  wings
• 1:00:06
  right
• 1:00:06
  now,
• 1:00:06
  waiting
• 1:00:07
  for
• 1:00:07
  the
• 1:00:07
  illustrator
• 1:00:08
  to
• 1:00:08
  get
• 1:00:08
  to
• 1:00:08
  it.
• 1:00:09
  After
• 1:00:09
  Rocky
• 1:00:09
  and
• 1:00:09
  after
• 1:00:10
  Sensations
• 1:00:10
  and
• 1:00:11
  et
• 1:00:11
  cetera,
• 1:00:11
  capturing
• 1:00:12
  those
• 1:00:12
  ideas,
• 1:00:13
  I
• 1:00:13
  put
• 1:00:13
  them
• 1:00:14
  into
• 1:00:14
  either
• 1:00:15
  a
• 1:00:15
  notes
• 1:00:16
  program
• 1:00:16
  on
• 1:00:16
  my
• 1:00:16
  phone
• 1:00:18
  or
• 1:00:18
  I
• 1:00:19
  write
• 1:00:19
  them
• 1:00:19
  down
• 1:00:20
  on
• 1:00:20
  a
• 1:00:21
  piece
• 1:00:21
  of
• 1:00:21
  scrap
• 1:00:21
  paper
• 1:00:22
  and
• 1:00:22
  I
• 1:00:23
  put
• 1:00:23
  it
• 1:00:23
  in
• 1:00:23
  my
• 1:00:23
  filing
• 1:00:24
  cabinet.
• 1:00:24
  Whatever
• 1:00:25
  I
• 1:00:25
  need
• 1:00:25
  to
• 1:00:25
  do.
• 1:00:26
  Now,
• 1:00:26
  what's
• 1:00:26
  your
• 1:00:26
  writing
• 1:00:27
  process?
• 1:00:27
  So
• 1:00:28
  when
• 1:00:28
  you
• 1:00:28
  say,
• 1:00:28
  okay,
• 1:00:29
  now
• 1:00:29
  I've
• 1:00:29
  captured
• 1:00:30
  this
• 1:00:30
  idea,
• 1:00:31
  I'm
• 1:00:31
  going
• 1:00:31
  to
• 1:00:31
  sit
• 1:00:31
  down
• 1:00:31
  and
• 1:00:32
  I'm
• 1:00:32
  going
• 1:00:32
  to
• 1:00:32
  start
• 1:00:32
  writing.
• 1:00:33
  Tell
• 1:00:33
  us
• 1:00:33
  about
• 1:00:34
  that
• 1:00:34
  part
• 1:00:34
  of
• 1:00:35
  it.
• 1:00:36
  I
• 1:00:36
  don't
• 1:00:37
  write
• 1:00:37
  it
• 1:00:37
  immediately.
• 1:00:38
  I
• 1:00:38
  like
• 1:00:39
  to
• 1:00:39
  let
• 1:00:39
  it
• 1:00:39
  mull.
• 1:00:40
  I
• 1:00:40
  like
• 1:00:41
  to
• 1:00:41
  think
• 1:00:41
  about
• 1:00:41
  it,
• 1:00:42
  I
• 1:00:42
  like
• 1:00:42
  to
• 1:00:42
  pull
• 1:00:43
  it
• 1:00:43
  apart.
• 1:00:43
  I
• 1:00:43
  like
• 1:00:44
  to
• 1:00:44
  Understand
• 1:00:44
  what's
• 1:00:45
  the
• 1:00:45
  beginning,
• 1:00:45
  what's
• 1:00:46
  the
• 1:00:46
  end
• 1:00:46
  and
• 1:00:46
  the
• 1:00:47
  very
• 1:00:47
  hardest
• 1:00:47
  part,
• 1:00:48
  what's
• 1:00:48
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• 1:00:48
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• 1:00:49
  How
• 1:00:49
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• 1:00:49
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• 1:00:49
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• 1:00:49
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• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:51
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• 1:00:51
  And
• 1:00:52
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• 1:00:52
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• 1:00:52
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• 1:00:52
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• 1:00:53
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• 1:00:53
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• 1:00:53
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• 1:00:54
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• 1:00:54
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• 1:00:54
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• 1:00:55
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• 1:00:55
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• 1:00:55
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• 1:00:56
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• 1:00:56
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• 1:00:57
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• 1:00:57
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• 1:00:57
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• 1:00:58
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• 1:00:59
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• 1:00:59
  more
• 1:00:59
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• 1:00:59
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• 1:00:59
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• 1:01:00
  mule
• 1:01:00
  than
• 1:01:00
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• 1:01:00
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• 1:01:01
  It
• 1:01:01
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• 1:01:02
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• 1:01:02
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• 1:01:02
  I'll
• 1:01:02
  let
• 1:01:03
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• 1:01:03
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• 1:01:03
  around
• 1:01:03
  in
• 1:01:03
  my
• 1:01:04
  brain.
• 1:01:04
  And
• 1:01:04
  when
• 1:01:05
  I
• 1:01:05
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• 1:01:05
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• 1:01:05
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• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:07
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• 1:01:07
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• 1:01:07
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• 1:01:07
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• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:10
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• 1:01:10
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• 1:01:11
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• 1:01:11
  get
• 1:01:11
  it
• 1:01:11
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• 1:01:12
  So
• 1:01:12
  I
• 1:01:12
  do
• 1:01:13
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• 1:01:13
  very
• 1:01:13
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• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:20
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• 1:01:20
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• 1:01:20
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• 1:01:20
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• 1:01:20
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• 1:01:21
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• 1:01:21
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• 1:01:21
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• 1:01:21
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• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:23
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• 1:01:23
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• 1:01:24
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• 1:01:24
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• 1:01:24
  point
• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:26
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• 1:01:27
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• 1:01:27
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• 1:01:27
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• 1:01:28
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• 1:01:28
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• 1:01:29
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• 1:01:29
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• 1:01:29
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• 1:01:29
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• 1:01:30
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• 1:01:30
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• 1:01:30
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• 1:01:30
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• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:34
  And
• 1:01:34
  at
• 1:01:35
  that
• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:37
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• 1:01:37
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• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:39
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• 1:01:40
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• 1:01:41
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• 1:01:41
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• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:46
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:49
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• 1:01:49
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• 1:01:50
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• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:52
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• 1:01:52
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• 1:01:52
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• 1:01:53
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• 1:01:53
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• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:57
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• 1:01:57
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• 1:01:58
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• 1:01:58
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• 1:01:59
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• 1:02:01
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• 1:02:01
  me
• 1:02:01
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:04
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• 1:02:04
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• 1:02:04
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• 1:02:05
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• 1:02:05
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• 1:02:05
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• 1:02:06
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• 1:02:06
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• 1:02:06
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• 1:02:06
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• 1:02:07
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• 1:02:07
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• 1:02:07
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:09
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• 1:02:10
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• 1:02:11
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• 1:02:11
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• 1:02:12
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• 1:02:12
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• 1:02:12
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• 1:02:14
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• 1:02:14
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• 1:02:15
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• 1:02:15
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• 1:02:16
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• 1:02:16
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• 1:02:16
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• 1:02:17
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• 1:02:17
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• 1:02:17
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• 1:02:18
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• 1:02:18
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• 1:02:18
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• 1:02:19
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• 1:02:19
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• 1:02:19
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• 1:02:20
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• 1:02:20
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• 1:02:20
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• 1:02:21
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• 1:02:21
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• 1:02:21
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• 1:02:21
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• 1:02:22
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• 1:02:22
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• 1:02:23
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• 1:02:23
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• 1:02:23
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• 1:02:23
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• 1:02:23
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• 1:02:24
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• 1:02:25
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• 1:02:25
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• 1:02:25
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• 1:02:26
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• 1:02:26
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• 1:02:27
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• 1:02:27
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• 1:02:27
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• 1:02:27
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• 1:02:28
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• 1:02:29
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• 1:02:29
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• 1:02:29
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• 1:02:30
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• 1:02:30
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• 1:02:30
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• 1:02:31
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• 1:02:31
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• 1:02:32
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• 1:02:32
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• 1:02:32
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• 1:02:33
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• 1:02:33
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• 1:02:33
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• 1:02:34
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• 1:02:34
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• 1:02:35
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• 1:02:35
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• 1:02:35
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• 1:02:36
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• 1:02:36
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• 1:02:36
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:40
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• 1:02:40
  But
• 1:02:41
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• 1:02:41
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• 1:02:41
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• 1:02:41
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• 1:02:41
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• 1:02:42
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• 1:02:42
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• 1:02:43
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• 1:02:43
  jump
• 1:02:43
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• 1:02:44
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• 1:02:45
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• 1:02:46
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• 1:02:46
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• 1:02:47
  because
• 1:02:47
  it's
• 1:02:47
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• 1:02:48
  when
• 1:02:48
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• 1:02:49
  a
• 1:02:50
  first
• 1:02:50
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• 1:02:51
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• 1:02:51
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• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:53
  success
• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:54
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• 1:02:54
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• 1:02:54
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• 1:02:55
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• 1:02:55
  I
• 1:02:55
  want
• 1:02:55
  you
• 1:02:55
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• 1:02:55
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• 1:02:55
  back
• 1:02:56
  to
• 1:02:56
  that.
• 1:02:56
  But
• 1:02:57
  then
• 1:02:57
  I
• 1:02:57
  want
• 1:02:57
  to
• 1:02:57
  draw
• 1:02:58
  you
• 1:02:58
  forward
• 1:02:59
  to
• 1:03:00
  what
• 1:03:01
  success
• 1:03:01
  looks
• 1:03:02
  like
• 1:03:02
  to
• 1:03:02
  you
• 1:03:02
  now.
• 1:03:03
  Take
• 1:03:03
  us
• 1:03:03
  back
• 1:03:04
  to
• 1:03:04
  what
• 1:03:04
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• 1:03:04
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• 1:03:05
  success
• 1:03:06
  and
• 1:03:06
  what
• 1:03:07
  it
• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:07
  you
• 1:03:07
  in
• 1:03:08
  the
• 1:03:08
  beginning
• 1:03:09
  and
• 1:03:09
  how
• 1:03:09
  it's
• 1:03:09
  evolved
• 1:03:10
  to
• 1:03:10
  what
• 1:03:10
  it
• 1:03:11
  looks
• 1:03:11
  like
• 1:03:11
  to
• 1:03:11
  you
• 1:03:12
  now.
• 1:03:13
  I'm
• 1:03:13
  very
• 1:03:13
  happy
• 1:03:14
  that
• 1:03:14
  you
• 1:03:14
  talk
• 1:03:14
  about
• 1:03:14
  Success
• 1:03:15
  as,
• 1:03:15
  as
• 1:03:15
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• 1:03:16
  multi
• 1:03:16
  layer
• 1:03:17
  and
• 1:03:17
  changing
• 1:03:18
  over
• 1:03:18
  time.
• 1:03:19
  And
• 1:03:19
  I
• 1:03:19
  think
• 1:03:19
  everyone
• 1:03:20
  has
• 1:03:20
  a
• 1:03:20
  very
• 1:03:21
  different
• 1:03:22
  idea
• 1:03:22
  of
• 1:03:23
  what
• 1:03:23
  success
• 1:03:24
  is
• 1:03:24
  and
• 1:03:25
  it
• 1:03:25
  changes.
• 1:03:25
  As
• 1:03:26
  you
• 1:03:26
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• 1:03:27
  success
• 1:03:27
  on
• 1:03:27
  the
• 1:03:28
  very
• 1:03:28
  first
• 1:03:29
  publication
• 1:03:29
  was
• 1:03:30
  the
• 1:03:30
  very
• 1:03:30
  first
• 1:03:31
  publication
• 1:03:31
  just
• 1:03:31
  getting
• 1:03:31
  published.
• 1:03:32
  That's
• 1:03:33
  it.
• 1:03:33
  Having
• 1:03:33
  someone
• 1:03:33
  believe
• 1:03:34
  in
• 1:03:34
  me,
• 1:03:34
  believe
• 1:03:34
  in
• 1:03:35
  my
• 1:03:35
  story
• 1:03:35
  and
• 1:03:36
  wanting
• 1:03:36
  to
• 1:03:37
  publish
• 1:03:37
  me.
• 1:03:37
  So
• 1:03:38
  that
• 1:03:38
  to
• 1:03:38
  me
• 1:03:38
  was
• 1:03:39
  the
• 1:03:39
  ultimate
• 1:03:39
  success.
• 1:03:40
  Having
• 1:03:41
  my
• 1:03:41
  friends
• 1:03:41
  and
• 1:03:42
  family
• 1:03:42
  at
• 1:03:42
  the
• 1:03:43
  launch
• 1:03:43
  was
• 1:03:43
  a
• 1:03:43
  huge
• 1:03:44
  success
• 1:03:44
  for
• 1:03:45
  me.
• 1:03:45
  Selling
• 1:03:46
  my
• 1:03:46
  first
• 1:03:46
  books
• 1:03:47
  was
• 1:03:47
  a
• 1:03:47
  huge
• 1:03:48
  success
• 1:03:48
  for
• 1:03:48
  me.
• 1:03:49
  The
• 1:03:50
  concept
• 1:03:51
  that
• 1:03:51
  I
• 1:03:51
  have
• 1:03:52
  of
• 1:03:52
  success
• 1:03:53
  now
• 1:03:54
  has
• 1:03:54
  certainly
• 1:03:54
  changed.
• 1:03:55
  Everyone
• 1:03:55
  would
• 1:03:56
  love
• 1:03:56
  to
• 1:03:56
  be
• 1:03:56
  able
• 1:03:56
  to
• 1:03:57
  support
• 1:03:58
  themselves
• 1:03:58
  and
• 1:03:59
  take
• 1:03:59
  their
• 1:03:59
  children
• 1:04:00
  on
• 1:04:01
  magnificent
• 1:04:02
  European
• 1:04:02
  vacations
• 1:04:03
  off
• 1:04:03
  of
• 1:04:03
  the
• 1:04:04
  sales
• 1:04:04
  from
• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:05
  But
• 1:04:05
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• 1:04:06
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• 1:04:07
  that's
• 1:04:08
  not
• 1:04:08
  what
• 1:04:08
  you
• 1:04:08
  do.
• 1:04:09
  That's
• 1:04:09
  not
• 1:04:09
  what
• 1:04:09
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• 1:04:09
  do
• 1:04:10
  usually.
• 1:04:10
  So
• 1:04:11
  at
• 1:04:11
  this
• 1:04:11
  point,
• 1:04:11
  success
• 1:04:12
  to
• 1:04:12
  me
• 1:04:13
  be
• 1:04:15
  continuing
• 1:04:15
  to
• 1:04:16
  write,
• 1:04:16
  continuing
• 1:04:17
  to
• 1:04:17
  have
• 1:04:18
  more
• 1:04:18
  books
• 1:04:18
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• 1:04:19
  continuing
• 1:04:19
  to
• 1:04:20
  have
• 1:04:21
  more
• 1:04:21
  events.
• 1:04:22
  I
• 1:04:22
  am
• 1:04:24
  considering
• 1:04:24
  a
• 1:04:24
  huge
• 1:04:25
  success
• 1:04:25
  that
• 1:04:26
  recently
• 1:04:26
  came
• 1:04:27
  about
• 1:04:27
  is
• 1:04:28
  I
• 1:04:28
  will
• 1:04:28
  be
• 1:04:28
  attending
• 1:04:29
  the
• 1:04:29
  Williamsburg
• 1:04:30
  Book
• 1:04:30
  Festival
• 1:04:32
  in
• 1:04:32
  March.
• 1:04:33
  They
• 1:04:33
  had
• 1:04:33
  220
• 1:04:34
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• 1:04:35
  and
• 1:04:35
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• 1:04:35
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• 1:04:35
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• 1:04:36
  75.
• 1:04:36
  So
• 1:04:37
  to
• 1:04:37
  me,
• 1:04:37
  that's
• 1:04:37
  a
• 1:04:37
  huge
• 1:04:38
  success
• 1:04:39
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• 1:04:39
  be
• 1:04:39
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• 1:04:40
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• 1:04:40
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• 1:04:40
  that
• 1:04:40
  festival
• 1:04:41
  and
• 1:04:41
  be
• 1:04:41
  one
• 1:04:42
  of
• 1:04:42
  the
• 1:04:42
  few
• 1:04:43
  that
• 1:04:43
  got
• 1:04:43
  accepted.
• 1:04:44
  So
• 1:04:44
  my
• 1:04:45
  idea
• 1:04:45
  of
• 1:04:45
  success
• 1:04:45
  has
• 1:04:46
  changed.
• 1:04:46
  It's
• 1:04:47
  farther
• 1:04:47
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• 1:04:48
  I
• 1:04:48
  want
• 1:04:49
  to
• 1:04:49
  do
• 1:04:49
  more
• 1:04:50
  events,
• 1:04:51
  I
• 1:04:51
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• 1:04:51
  to
• 1:04:51
  sell
• 1:04:52
  more
• 1:04:52
  books,
• 1:04:52
  obviously
• 1:04:53
  I
• 1:04:54
  want
• 1:04:54
  to
• 1:04:54
  connect.
• 1:04:55
  And
• 1:04:56
  looking
• 1:04:57
  really
• 1:04:58
  far
• 1:04:58
  into
• 1:04:58
  the
• 1:04:58
  future,
• 1:04:59
  I
• 1:04:59
  want
• 1:04:59
  to
• 1:04:59
  be
• 1:04:59
  able
• 1:05:00
  to
• 1:05:01
  work
• 1:05:01
  with
• 1:05:03
  mental
• 1:05:03
  health
• 1:05:04
  providers
• 1:05:05
  and
• 1:05:07
  do
• 1:05:07
  some
• 1:05:07
  sort
• 1:05:08
  of
• 1:05:08
  course
• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:09
  some
• 1:05:09
  sort
• 1:05:09
  of
• 1:05:11
  program
• 1:05:11
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• 1:05:12
  connects
• 1:05:12
  with
• 1:05:13
  children
• 1:05:13
  to
• 1:05:13
  help
• 1:05:13
  them
• 1:05:14
  process
• 1:05:14
  their
• 1:05:14
  grief.
• 1:05:15
  I
• 1:05:15
  have
• 1:05:15
  a
• 1:05:16
  few
• 1:05:16
  different
• 1:05:16
  ideas
• 1:05:17
  of,
• 1:05:17
  based
• 1:05:18
  on
• 1:05:18
  my
• 1:05:18
  books,
• 1:05:19
  different
• 1:05:19
  programs
• 1:05:20
  that
• 1:05:20
  I
• 1:05:20
  could
• 1:05:20
  offer
• 1:05:21
  to
• 1:05:21
  working
• 1:05:22
  with
• 1:05:22
  counselors
• 1:05:23
  and
• 1:05:23
  mental
• 1:05:23
  health
• 1:05:24
  professionals
• 1:05:25
  to
• 1:05:25
  support
• 1:05:26
  children
• 1:05:26
  in
• 1:05:26
  that
• 1:05:27
  way
• 1:05:27
  as
• 1:05:27
  well.
• 1:05:28
  So
• 1:05:28
  that
• 1:05:28
  would
• 1:05:28
  be
• 1:05:28
  a
• 1:05:29
  huge
• 1:05:29
  goal
• 1:05:29
  that
• 1:05:30
  I
• 1:05:30
  could
• 1:05:30
  achieve
• 1:05:30
  in
• 1:05:31
  the
• 1:05:31
  future
• 1:05:31
  and
• 1:05:31
  consider
• 1:05:32
  myself
• 1:05:32
  to
• 1:05:32
  be
• 1:05:33
  successful
• 1:05:33
  in
• 1:05:33
  that
• 1:05:33
  area.
• 1:05:34
  It
• 1:05:35
  sounds
• 1:05:35
  to
• 1:05:35
  me
• 1:05:36
  that
• 1:05:36
  you
• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:37
  the
• 1:05:37
  role
• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:38
  writing
• 1:05:38
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• 1:05:39
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• 1:05:39
  on
• 1:05:40
  even
• 1:05:40
  a
• 1:05:40
  bigger
• 1:05:41
  role
• 1:05:41
  than
• 1:05:41
  it's
• 1:05:41
  currently
• 1:05:42
  taking
• 1:05:42
  on.
• 1:05:42
  Is
• 1:05:43
  that
• 1:05:43
  correct?
• 1:05:44
  Yeah,
• 1:05:44
  I
• 1:05:45
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• 1:05:45
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• 1:05:45
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• 1:05:45
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• 1:05:45
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• 1:05:46
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• 1:05:46
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• 1:05:46
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• 1:05:46
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• 1:05:46
  community
• 1:05:47
  more,
• 1:05:47
  help
• 1:05:48
  support
• 1:05:48
  children
• 1:05:49
  more,
• 1:05:49
  help
• 1:05:50
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• 1:05:50
  families
• 1:05:51
  more,
• 1:05:51
  and
• 1:05:52
  obviously
• 1:05:52
  sell
• 1:05:53
  books
• 1:05:53
  more.
• 1:05:53
  But
• 1:05:54
  the
• 1:05:54
  underlying
• 1:05:55
  goal
• 1:05:55
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• 1:05:56
  that
• 1:05:56
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• 1:05:57
  to
• 1:05:57
  bring
• 1:05:57
  a
• 1:05:57
  smile
• 1:05:57
  to
• 1:05:58
  a
• 1:05:58
  kid's
• 1:05:58
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• 1:05:58
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• 1:05:58
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• 1:05:59
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• 1:05:59
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• 1:06:00
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• 1:06:00
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• 1:06:01
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• 1:06:01
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• 1:06:01
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• 1:06:01
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• 1:06:02
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• 1:06:02
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• 1:06:02
  Help
• 1:06:03
  them
• 1:06:03
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• 1:06:03
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• 1:06:03
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• 1:06:04
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• 1:06:04
  a
• 1:06:04
  caregiver
• 1:06:05
  about
• 1:06:05
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• 1:06:05
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• 1:06:06
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• 1:06:06
  Those
• 1:06:06
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• 1:06:06
  the
• 1:06:07
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• 1:06:07
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• 1:06:07
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• 1:06:08
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• 1:06:08
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• 1:06:09
  One
• 1:06:09
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• 1:06:09
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• 1:06:09
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• 1:06:09
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• 1:06:10
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• 1:06:10
  and
• 1:06:10
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• 1:06:11
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• 1:06:11
  to
• 1:06:11
  share
• 1:06:11
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• 1:06:11
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• 1:06:12
  is
• 1:06:13
  I
• 1:06:13
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• 1:06:13
  talking
• 1:06:14
  to
• 1:06:14
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• 1:06:14
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• 1:06:14
  book
• 1:06:15
  author
• 1:06:16
  and
• 1:06:17
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• 1:06:17
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• 1:06:18
  me
• 1:06:18
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• 1:06:19
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• 1:06:19
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• 1:06:19
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• 1:06:19
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• 1:06:19
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• 1:06:20
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• 1:06:21
  they
• 1:06:21
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• 1:06:21
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• 1:06:22
  adults
• 1:06:22
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• 1:06:23
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• 1:06:23
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• 1:06:23
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• 1:06:23
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• 1:06:24
  So
• 1:06:24
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• 1:06:24
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• 1:06:25
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• 1:06:25
  Primarily
• 1:06:26
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• 1:06:27
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• 1:06:27
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• 1:06:28
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• 1:06:28
  handful
• 1:06:29
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• 1:06:29
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• 1:06:29
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• 1:06:30
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• 1:06:30
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• 1:06:30
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• 1:06:30
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• 1:06:31
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• 1:06:31
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• 1:06:32
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• 1:06:32
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• 1:06:32
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• 1:06:32
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• 1:06:33
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• 1:06:33
  And
• 1:06:33
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• 1:06:33
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• 1:06:33
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• 1:06:34
  for
• 1:06:34
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• 1:06:34
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• 1:06:35
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• 1:06:35
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• 1:06:36
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• 1:06:36
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• 1:06:36
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• 1:06:37
  That
• 1:06:37
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• 1:06:38
  me
• 1:06:38
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• 1:06:38
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• 1:06:38
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• 1:06:38
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• 1:06:39
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• 1:06:39
  see
• 1:06:39
  myself.
• 1:06:40
  And
• 1:06:40
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• 1:06:41
  want
• 1:06:41
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• 1:06:41
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• 1:06:41
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• 1:06:42
  So
• 1:06:42
  it's
• 1:06:43
  interesting
• 1:06:43
  for
• 1:06:44
  even
• 1:06:44
  adults.
• 1:06:45
  That's
• 1:06:45
  the
• 1:06:45
  beautiful
• 1:06:46
  thing
• 1:06:46
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• 1:06:46
  children's
• 1:06:47
  books,
• 1:06:47
  is
• 1:06:47
  that
• 1:06:48
  at
• 1:06:49
  one
• 1:06:49
  point
• 1:06:49
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• 1:06:49
  were
• 1:06:50
  all
• 1:06:50
  children.
• 1:06:51
  And
• 1:06:52
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• 1:06:53
  you're
• 1:06:53
  like
• 1:06:53
  me,
• 1:06:54
  being
• 1:06:55
  a
• 1:06:55
  child
• 1:06:55
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• 1:06:56
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• 1:06:56
  go
• 1:06:56
  out
• 1:06:56
  of
• 1:06:56
  your
• 1:06:56
  personality.
• 1:06:59
  That's
• 1:06:59
  why
• 1:06:59
  I
• 1:07:00
  love
• 1:07:00
  my
• 1:07:00
  five
• 1:07:00
  grandchildren.
• 1:07:01
  I
• 1:07:01
  get
• 1:07:01
  to
• 1:07:01
  be
• 1:07:01
  a
• 1:07:02
  kid
• 1:07:02
  all
• 1:07:02
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• 1:07:02
  time.
• 1:07:02
  That's
• 1:07:03
  what
• 1:07:03
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• 1:07:03
  guess
• 1:07:03
  I'm
• 1:07:04
  saying
• 1:07:04
  here
• 1:07:04
  is
• 1:07:04
  that
• 1:07:05
  with
• 1:07:05
  your
• 1:07:05
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• 1:07:06
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• 1:07:06
  be
• 1:07:07
  interesting
• 1:07:07
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• 1:07:07
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• 1:07:08
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• 1:07:08
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• 1:07:09
  How
• 1:07:09
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• 1:07:09
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• 1:07:10
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• 1:07:10
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• 1:07:10
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• 1:07:10
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• 1:07:11
  you,
• 1:07:11
  Catherine,
• 1:07:11
  and
• 1:07:12
  say,
• 1:07:12
  catherine,
• 1:07:13
  that
• 1:07:13
  was
• 1:07:13
  me,
• 1:07:14
  or
• 1:07:14
  that
• 1:07:14
  was
• 1:07:15
  my
• 1:07:15
  relationship
• 1:07:15
  with
• 1:07:16
  my
• 1:07:16
  grandfather.
• 1:07:17
  I've
• 1:07:18
  had
• 1:07:18
  a
• 1:07:18
  few
• 1:07:18
  people
• 1:07:18
  come
• 1:07:19
  up
• 1:07:19
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• 1:07:20
  say
• 1:07:20
  that
• 1:07:20
  it
• 1:07:21
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• 1:07:21
  their
• 1:07:21
  heart.
• 1:07:22
  That's
• 1:07:22
  nice
• 1:07:24
  advice
• 1:07:24
  for
• 1:07:24
  aspiring
• 1:07:26
  authors.
• 1:07:27
  So
• 1:07:28
  what
• 1:07:28
  advice
• 1:07:29
  would
• 1:07:29
  you
• 1:07:29
  give
• 1:07:29
  to
• 1:07:30
  someone
• 1:07:30
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• 1:07:30
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• 1:07:30
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• 1:07:31
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• 1:07:31
  They'd
• 1:07:32
  love
• 1:07:32
  to
• 1:07:32
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• 1:07:32
  a
• 1:07:32
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• 1:07:33
  book
• 1:07:33
  author,
• 1:07:34
  but
• 1:07:34
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• 1:07:34
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• 1:07:35
  don't
• 1:07:35
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• 1:07:35
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• 1:07:35
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• 1:07:36
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• 1:07:37
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• 1:07:38
  Advice
• 1:07:38
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• 1:07:39
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• 1:07:39
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• 1:07:39
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• 1:07:40
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• 1:07:40
  Take
• 1:07:40
  the
• 1:07:40
  step.
• 1:07:41
  Just
• 1:07:42
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• 1:07:42
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• 1:07:42
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• 1:07:42
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• 1:07:43
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• 1:07:43
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• 1:07:43
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• 1:07:43
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• 1:07:43
  It's
• 1:07:44
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• 1:07:44
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• 1:07:44
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• 1:07:44
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• 1:07:45
  You're
• 1:07:46
  probably
• 1:07:46
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• 1:07:46
  to
• 1:07:47
  lose
• 1:07:47
  hope
• 1:07:47
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• 1:07:48
  the
• 1:07:48
  way.
• 1:07:48
  But
• 1:07:49
  as
• 1:07:49
  long
• 1:07:49
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• 1:07:49
  you
• 1:07:49
  keep
• 1:07:49
  moving
• 1:07:50
  forward,
• 1:07:51
  your
• 1:07:51
  dream
• 1:07:52
  will
• 1:07:52
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• 1:07:52
  a
• 1:07:53
  reality.
• 1:07:54
  Everyone
• 1:07:54
  that
• 1:07:55
  I've
• 1:07:55
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• 1:07:56
  with
• 1:07:56
  has
• 1:07:57
  been
• 1:07:57
  more
• 1:07:57
  than
• 1:07:57
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• 1:07:58
  to
• 1:07:58
  help
• 1:07:58
  in
• 1:07:59
  this
• 1:07:59
  journey
• 1:08:00
  in
• 1:08:00
  this
• 1:08:00
  field.
• 1:08:01
  From
• 1:08:02
  authors
• 1:08:02
  to
• 1:08:04
  illustrators
• 1:08:05
  to
• 1:08:05
  publishers
• 1:08:06
  to
• 1:08:06
  librarians
• 1:08:07
  to
• 1:08:08
  educators,
• 1:08:08
  everyone
• 1:08:10
  in
• 1:08:10
  this
• 1:08:10
  field
• 1:08:11
  seems
• 1:08:12
  to
• 1:08:12
  be
• 1:08:12
  more
• 1:08:12
  than
• 1:08:12
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• 1:08:13
  to
• 1:08:13
  help.
• 1:08:13
  So
• 1:08:14
  if
• 1:08:14
  you
• 1:08:14
  ask
• 1:08:14
  the
• 1:08:14
  questions
• 1:08:15
  and
• 1:08:15
  you
• 1:08:15
  take
• 1:08:15
  the
• 1:08:16
  step
• 1:08:16
  and
• 1:08:17
  you
• 1:08:17
  just
• 1:08:17
  keep
• 1:08:17
  going,
• 1:08:17
  no
• 1:08:18
  matter
• 1:08:18
  how
• 1:08:19
  hopeless
• 1:08:19
  it
• 1:08:19
  feels
• 1:08:19
  at
• 1:08:19
  times,
• 1:08:20
  as
• 1:08:20
  long
• 1:08:20
  as
• 1:08:20
  you
• 1:08:21
  keep
• 1:08:21
  moving
• 1:08:21
  forward,
• 1:08:21
  you'll
• 1:08:22
  get.
• 1:08:22
  I
• 1:08:22
  couldn't
• 1:08:22
  agree
• 1:08:22
  with
• 1:08:22
  you
• 1:08:23
  more.
• 1:08:23
  That's
• 1:08:23
  how
• 1:08:24
  our
• 1:08:24
  whole
• 1:08:24
  podcast
• 1:08:25
  show
• 1:08:25
  started.
• 1:08:26
  I
• 1:08:26
  was
• 1:08:26
  getting
• 1:08:26
  so
• 1:08:27
  much
• 1:08:27
  support
• 1:08:28
  I
• 1:08:28
  wanted
• 1:08:28
  to
• 1:08:29
  give
• 1:08:29
  back,
• 1:08:29
  and
• 1:08:29
  I
• 1:08:29
  found
• 1:08:30
  this
• 1:08:30
  seemed
• 1:08:31
  to
• 1:08:31
  be
• 1:08:31
  the
• 1:08:31
  appropriate
• 1:08:32
  way
• 1:08:32
  for
• 1:08:32
  me
• 1:08:33
  to
• 1:08:33
  give
• 1:08:33
  back
• 1:08:34
  to
• 1:08:34
  the
• 1:08:34
  community.
• 1:08:35
  So
• 1:08:35
  thank
• 1:08:35
  you
• 1:08:35
  for
• 1:08:36
  sharing
• 1:08:36
  that.
• 1:08:37
  What
• 1:08:37
  keeps
• 1:08:37
  you
• 1:08:38
  going
• 1:08:39
  as
• 1:08:39
  a
• 1:08:39
  children's
• 1:08:40
  book
• 1:08:40
  author?
• 1:08:41
  Personally,
• 1:08:42
  I
• 1:08:42
  find
• 1:08:43
  that
• 1:08:45
  I
• 1:08:45
  have
• 1:08:45
  had
• 1:08:45
  moments
• 1:08:46
  where
• 1:08:46
  I
• 1:08:46
  question,
• 1:08:48
  am
• 1:08:48
  I
• 1:08:48
  doing
• 1:08:48
  the
• 1:08:49
  right
• 1:08:49
  thing?
• 1:08:49
  Is
• 1:08:49
  it
• 1:08:50
  even
• 1:08:50
  worth
• 1:08:50
  it?
• 1:08:51
  Is
• 1:08:51
  there
• 1:08:52
  anyone
• 1:08:52
  who's
• 1:08:52
  gonna
• 1:08:53
  read
• 1:08:53
  my
• 1:08:53
  books?
• 1:08:53
  I've
• 1:08:54
  had
• 1:08:54
  those
• 1:08:54
  dark
• 1:08:55
  moments,
• 1:08:56
  but
• 1:08:56
  for
• 1:08:57
  me,
• 1:08:58
  my
• 1:08:58
  children,
• 1:08:59
  my
• 1:09:00
  sanity,
• 1:09:01
  as
• 1:09:01
  I
• 1:09:01
  mentioned
• 1:09:01
  before,
• 1:09:02
  I
• 1:09:02
  wanted
• 1:09:02
  something
• 1:09:03
  for
• 1:09:03
  me.
• 1:09:04
  So
• 1:09:05
  I
• 1:09:05
  know
• 1:09:05
  if
• 1:09:05
  I
• 1:09:05
  just
• 1:09:05
  keep
• 1:09:06
  going,
• 1:09:07
  keep
• 1:09:07
  moving
• 1:09:08
  forward,
• 1:09:09
  it's
• 1:09:09
  something
• 1:09:09
  that
• 1:09:10
  I
• 1:09:10
  love
• 1:09:10
  and
• 1:09:10
  that
• 1:09:11
  it
• 1:09:11
  brings
• 1:09:11
  a
• 1:09:11
  lot
• 1:09:11
  of
• 1:09:12
  joy
• 1:09:12
  to
• 1:09:12
  my
• 1:09:12
  life.
• 1:09:12
  And
• 1:09:13
  it's
• 1:09:13
  something
• 1:09:13
  I
• 1:09:13
  can
• 1:09:13
  also
• 1:09:15
  share
• 1:09:15
  with
• 1:09:15
  my
• 1:09:15
  children
• 1:09:16
  as
• 1:09:16
  they
• 1:09:16
  get
• 1:09:16
  older
• 1:09:17
  and
• 1:09:17
  I
• 1:09:17
  can
• 1:09:17
  be
• 1:09:17
  proud
• 1:09:17
  of
• 1:09:18
  myself
• 1:09:18
  about.
• 1:09:18
  So
• 1:09:19
  I
• 1:09:19
  think
• 1:09:19
  that's
• 1:09:19
  what
• 1:09:19
  drives
• 1:09:20
  me.
• 1:09:21
  Encouragement
• 1:09:21
  for
• 1:09:22
  Readers
• 1:09:23
  why
• 1:09:23
  should
• 1:09:23
  a
• 1:09:24
  children's
• 1:09:24
  book
• 1:09:24
  reader
• 1:09:25
  purchase
• 1:09:25
  your
• 1:09:26
  book?
• 1:09:27
  Children's
• 1:09:27
  book
• 1:09:28
  reader
• 1:09:28
  should
• 1:09:28
  purchase
• 1:09:28
  my
• 1:09:29
  book
• 1:09:29
  to
• 1:09:30
  experience
• 1:09:31
  some
• 1:09:32
  joy,
• 1:09:32
  some
• 1:09:32
  whimsy,
• 1:09:34
  to
• 1:09:35
  also
• 1:09:36
  maybe
• 1:09:36
  help
• 1:09:36
  with
• 1:09:37
  a
• 1:09:37
  difficult
• 1:09:38
  time,
• 1:09:39
  to
• 1:09:39
  have
• 1:09:40
  them
• 1:09:40
  feel
• 1:09:40
  more
• 1:09:40
  connected
• 1:09:41
  to
• 1:09:41
  their
• 1:09:41
  caregivers
• 1:09:42
  through
• 1:09:43
  processing
• 1:09:44
  grief,
• 1:09:44
  but
• 1:09:45
  also
• 1:09:45
  to
• 1:09:46
  get
• 1:09:46
  a
• 1:09:47
  little
• 1:09:47
  bit
• 1:09:47
  of
• 1:09:47
  courage,
• 1:09:47
  maybe
• 1:09:48
  to
• 1:09:48
  try
• 1:09:49
  something
• 1:09:49
  that
• 1:09:49
  they're
• 1:09:49
  a
• 1:09:50
  little
• 1:09:50
  afraid
• 1:09:50
  of
• 1:09:50
  doing
• 1:09:51
  because
• 1:09:51
  they
• 1:09:51
  read
• 1:09:52
  about
• 1:09:52
  my
• 1:09:52
  book
• 1:09:53
  and
• 1:09:53
  my
• 1:09:53
  characters
• 1:09:53
  and
• 1:09:54
  their
• 1:09:54
  growth.
• 1:09:56
  Final
• 1:09:57
  Thoughts
• 1:09:57
  Katherine,
• 1:09:59
  I
• 1:09:59
  just
• 1:09:59
  want
• 1:09:59
  to
• 1:09:59
  make
• 1:10:00
  sure
• 1:10:00
  that
• 1:10:01
  you've
• 1:10:01
  been
• 1:10:01
  able
• 1:10:01
  to
• 1:10:02
  share
• 1:10:02
  everything
• 1:10:02
  that
• 1:10:02
  you
• 1:10:03
  want
• 1:10:03
  to
• 1:10:03
  share
• 1:10:03
  as
• 1:10:04
  a
• 1:10:04
  children's
• 1:10:04
  book
• 1:10:04
  author.
• 1:10:05
  Is
• 1:10:05
  there
• 1:10:05
  anything
• 1:10:06
  that
• 1:10:06
  I've
• 1:10:06
  left
• 1:10:07
  out
• 1:10:07
  or
• 1:10:07
  you'd
• 1:10:07
  like
• 1:10:08
  like
• 1:10:08
  to
• 1:10:09
  talk
• 1:10:09
  about
• 1:10:10
  before
• 1:10:10
  we
• 1:10:11
  wrap
• 1:10:12
  up
• 1:10:12
  the
• 1:10:12
  show?
• 1:10:13
  The
• 1:10:13
  last
• 1:10:14
  thing.
• 1:10:14
  And
• 1:10:15
  it
• 1:10:15
  just
• 1:10:15
  popped
• 1:10:15
  up
• 1:10:16
  on
• 1:10:16
  my
• 1:10:16
  feed
• 1:10:17
  recently.
• 1:10:18
  26
• 1:10:18
  years
• 1:10:18
  ago
• 1:10:19
  in
• 1:10:19
  a
• 1:10:19
  day,
• 1:10:20
  my
• 1:10:21
  grandmother
• 1:10:21
  wrote
• 1:10:22
  me
• 1:10:22
  a
• 1:10:22
  letter
• 1:10:23
  and
• 1:10:24
  I
• 1:10:24
  posted
• 1:10:25
  it
• 1:10:25
  on
• 1:10:25
  Facebook
• 1:10:26
  a
• 1:10:26
  couple
• 1:10:26
  of
• 1:10:26
  years
• 1:10:26
  ago
• 1:10:27
  and
• 1:10:27
  I
• 1:10:28
  came
• 1:10:28
  across
• 1:10:28
  it
• 1:10:28
  again.
• 1:10:29
  I
• 1:10:29
  may
• 1:10:29
  have
• 1:10:30
  mentioned
• 1:10:30
  in
• 1:10:31
  my
• 1:10:31
  bio
• 1:10:31
  for
• 1:10:32
  my
• 1:10:32
  books
• 1:10:32
  that
• 1:10:33
  I
• 1:10:33
  am
• 1:10:34
  sixth
• 1:10:35
  generation
• 1:10:36
  of
• 1:10:36
  women
• 1:10:37
  with
• 1:10:37
  the
• 1:10:37
  same
• 1:10:37
  first
• 1:10:37
  and
• 1:10:38
  middle
• 1:10:38
  name,
• 1:10:38
  Catherine
• 1:10:38
  Clark.
• 1:10:39
  And
• 1:10:39
  my
• 1:10:40
  grandmother
• 1:10:40
  was
• 1:10:40
  an
• 1:10:40
  author.
• 1:10:41
  And
• 1:10:42
  it
• 1:10:42
  just
• 1:10:42
  is
• 1:10:43
  perfect
• 1:10:43
  timing
• 1:10:44
  to,
• 1:10:46
  I
• 1:10:46
  don't
• 1:10:46
  know,
• 1:10:47
  remember
• 1:10:47
  and
• 1:10:47
  bring
• 1:10:47
  up
• 1:10:48
  that
• 1:10:48
  connection
• 1:10:48
  to
• 1:10:48
  my
• 1:10:48
  grandmother
• 1:10:49
  because
• 1:10:49
  she
• 1:10:49
  was
• 1:10:49
  an
• 1:10:50
  author.
• 1:10:50
  And
• 1:10:51
  she
• 1:10:51
  wrote
• 1:10:51
  me
• 1:10:51
  a
• 1:10:51
  letter
• 1:10:52
  26
• 1:10:53
  years
• 1:10:53
  ago
• 1:10:53
  in
• 1:10:53
  a
• 1:10:54
  day
• 1:10:54
  that
• 1:10:54
  talked
• 1:10:55
  about
• 1:10:56
  really
• 1:10:56
  just
• 1:10:58
  becoming
• 1:10:58
  a
• 1:10:58
  children's
• 1:10:59
  book
• 1:10:59
  author
• 1:11:00
  and
• 1:11:01
  her
• 1:11:01
  recommendations
• 1:11:03
  and
• 1:11:04
  I
• 1:11:04
  love,
• 1:11:04
  and
• 1:11:05
  I
• 1:11:05
  just
• 1:11:05
  want
• 1:11:05
  to
• 1:11:05
  quote
• 1:11:05
  it
• 1:11:05
  right
• 1:11:06
  here,
• 1:11:06
  write
• 1:11:07
  fiction
• 1:11:07
  and
• 1:11:08
  nonfiction
• 1:11:09
  and
• 1:11:09
  do
• 1:11:09
  not
• 1:11:09
  overlook
• 1:11:10
  the
• 1:11:10
  market
• 1:11:10
  for
• 1:11:11
  little
• 1:11:11
  kids.
• 1:11:11
  Grandma,
• 1:11:12
  I
• 1:11:12
  did
• 1:11:12
  not
• 1:11:13
  overlook
• 1:11:13
  the
• 1:11:13
  market
• 1:11:14
  for
• 1:11:14
  little
• 1:11:14
  kids.
• 1:11:14
  You
• 1:11:15
  knew
• 1:11:15
  I
• 1:11:15
  was
• 1:11:15
  going
• 1:11:15
  to
• 1:11:15
  be
• 1:11:15
  a
• 1:11:16
  writer.
• 1:11:16
  Wow.
• 1:11:17
  That
• 1:11:17
  is
• 1:11:18
  terrific.
• 1:11:19
  Oh,
• 1:11:20
  amazing.
• 1:11:21
  Because
• 1:11:22
  in
• 1:11:22
  today's
• 1:11:22
  world,
• 1:11:23
  we
• 1:11:23
  all
• 1:11:23
  have
• 1:11:24
  this
• 1:11:24
  chance
• 1:11:25
  to
• 1:11:26
  leave.
• 1:11:26
  That's
• 1:11:27
  one
• 1:11:27
  thing
• 1:11:27
  I
• 1:11:27
  love
• 1:11:27
  about
• 1:11:28
  writing
• 1:11:29
  children's
• 1:11:29
  books
• 1:11:30
  and
• 1:11:30
  is
• 1:11:31
  I'm
• 1:11:31
  doing
• 1:11:31
  with
• 1:11:31
  my
• 1:11:31
  grandchildren.
• 1:11:32
  When
• 1:11:32
  I'm
• 1:11:33
  gone,
• 1:11:34
  they
• 1:11:34
  have
• 1:11:34
  this
• 1:11:35
  little
• 1:11:35
  piece
• 1:11:35
  of
• 1:11:36
  legacy
• 1:11:36
  that's
• 1:11:37
  shared
• 1:11:37
  with
• 1:11:37
  them
• 1:11:38
  for
• 1:11:38
  your
• 1:11:38
  grandmother
• 1:11:39
  to
• 1:11:39
  write
• 1:11:39
  you
• 1:11:40
  a
• 1:11:40
  letter.
• 1:11:41
  And
• 1:11:41
  in
• 1:11:41
  today's
• 1:11:42
  world,
• 1:11:42
  we
• 1:11:42
  all
• 1:11:42
  have
• 1:11:43
  smartphones.
• 1:11:44
  We
• 1:11:45
  only
• 1:11:45
  take
• 1:11:46
  you
• 1:11:47
  30
• 1:11:47
  seconds
• 1:11:47
  or
• 1:11:48
  a
• 1:11:48
  couple
• 1:11:48
  of
• 1:11:48
  minutes
• 1:11:48
  to
• 1:11:49
  send
• 1:11:49
  a
• 1:11:49
  message
• 1:11:50
  to
• 1:11:50
  their
• 1:11:50
  future
• 1:11:51
  self.
• 1:11:51
  That's
• 1:11:52
  pretty
• 1:11:52
  cool.
• 1:11:53
  Yeah.
• 1:11:53
  It
• 1:11:53
  came
• 1:11:53
  up
• 1:11:54
  on
• 1:11:54
  my
• 1:11:54
  feed
• 1:11:54
  recently
• 1:11:55
  and
• 1:11:55
  I
• 1:11:55
  just
• 1:11:55
  saw
• 1:11:55
  the
• 1:11:56
  date
• 1:11:56
  and
• 1:11:56
  I
• 1:11:56
  said,
• 1:11:56
  wow,
• 1:11:57
  that's
• 1:11:58
  incredible.
• 1:11:59
  January
• 1:11:59
  12,
• 1:12:00
  2000,
• 1:12:00
  she
• 1:12:00
  wrote
• 1:12:01
  me
• 1:12:01
  that
• 1:12:01
  letter.
• 1:12:01
  And
• 1:12:02
  here
• 1:12:02
  I
• 1:12:02
  am
• 1:12:03
  26
• 1:12:03
  years
• 1:12:03
  and
• 1:12:04
  a
• 1:12:04
  day
• 1:12:04
  later
• 1:12:04
  having
• 1:12:04
  a
• 1:12:05
  conversation
• 1:12:05
  with
• 1:12:05
  this
• 1:12:06
  amazing
• 1:12:06
  Rick
• 1:12:07
  Harris
• 1:12:07
  on
• 1:12:07
  his
• 1:12:08
  podcast
• 1:12:08
  about
• 1:12:08
  being
• 1:12:08
  a
• 1:12:09
  children's
• 1:12:09
  book
• 1:12:09
  author.
• 1:12:10
  And
• 1:12:10
  it
• 1:12:10
  was
• 1:12:10
  just
• 1:12:10
  such
• 1:12:10
  a
• 1:12:11
  really
• 1:12:12
  special
• 1:12:12
  connection.
• 1:12:13
  Thank
• 1:12:13
  you
• 1:12:13
  for
• 1:12:13
  sharing
• 1:12:14
  that.
• 1:12:15
  And
• 1:12:15
  Kathryn,
• 1:12:16
  thanks
• 1:12:16
  so
• 1:12:16
  much
• 1:12:16
  for
• 1:12:16
  being
• 1:12:17
  a
• 1:12:17
  guest
• 1:12:17
  on
• 1:12:17
  the
• 1:12:17
  Adventures
• 1:12:18
  in
• 1:12:18
  the
• 1:12:18
  Heart
• 1:12:18
  of
• 1:12:18
  Children's
• 1:12:19
  Book
• 1:12:19
  Authors
• 1:12:20
  podcast.
• 1:12:20
  Your
• 1:12:21
  generosity
• 1:12:21
  of
• 1:12:21
  time,
• 1:12:22
  your
• 1:12:23
  insights
• 1:12:23
  will
• 1:12:24
  significantly
• 1:12:24
  benefit
• 1:12:25
  aspiring
• 1:12:25
  children's
• 1:12:26
  book
• 1:12:26
  authors
• 1:12:27
  and
• 1:12:27
  readers.
• 1:12:28
  We
• 1:12:28
  promise
• 1:12:29
  to
• 1:12:29
  provide
• 1:12:29
  links
• 1:12:29
  to
• 1:12:30
  Katherine's
• 1:12:30
  social
• 1:12:31
  media
• 1:12:31
  and
• 1:12:31
  her
• 1:12:32
  books.
• 1:12:32
  And
• 1:12:33
  if
• 1:12:33
  you've
• 1:12:33
  enjoyed
• 1:12:33
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• 1:12:33
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• 1:12:34
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• 1:12:34
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• 1:12:36
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• 1:12:36
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• 1:12:38
  And
• 1:12:38
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• 1:12:38
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• 1:12:39
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• 1:12:39
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• 1:12:40
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• 1:12:40
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• 1:12:41
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• 1:12:42
  by
• 1:12:42
  or
• 1:12:43
  who
• 1:12:43
  enjoys
• 1:12:44
  hearing
• 1:12:44
  about
• 1:12:44
  Katherine
• 1:12:45
  and
• 1:12:45
  her
• 1:12:46
  children's
• 1:12:46
  book,
• 1:12:47
  Katie's
• 1:12:48
  Journey.
• 1:12:48
  Thank
• 1:12:49
  you,
• 1:12:49
  Katherine.
• 1:12:49
  Rick.