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Episode 233: The Pegasus Project (SG-1 10.03) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate episode two hundred and thirty three talking Stargates SG one and a
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little bit of Stargate at land As. If you don't mind, my name
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is Mitch joining me, Maddie Gibson. We're going to have the other direction.
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It's got your raincoats on, guys, brand pegasat us, cover up
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Brendan Pegass. Unless you guys want to get pregnant. You've got to get
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some kind of protective coatings going on right now. There, God damn it,
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what do you say. Don't threaten me with a good time. Here
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we are the Pegasus project, which I said a couple of weeks ago,
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looking ahead of this episode, that I had exactly zero memory of SG one
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having such a crossover element or storyline with Atlantis because I didn't watch Atlantis.
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I'm watching Atlanta's for the first time now. So the idea of watching this
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for the first time fifteen years ago, I would have seen Rising she would
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have blown my mind. And this like a year and a half later or
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yeah, like oh those oh yeah, I remember McKay from season six or
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you know whatever, and sucking lemon. Then we get we get this bad
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boy, which I better get just a banger, wasn't it It is?
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It really is one of the best ones in like probably both two seasons Atlantis
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and and I get st One joked also say, probably the best episode of
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like season nine and one. Yeah, it's pretty good. Definitely the best
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we've seen so far. And I kept getting confused as to which show that
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I was watching to be fair, because I'm sitting there like the other week.
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You know what, I say it every year. This year, I'm
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going to do it on going every week. I'm going to like do my
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rank weekly. And as I'm watching this, I'm like, oh, this
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is clearly the best ESG. I mean, you know, we're only two
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or three episodes in, but this is the best SGA episode. Hang on,
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notes, I'm due for actually not SG one. Oh mate, if
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you want to just duck off for a couple of minutes and you're still it
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at the corner Saturday morning, yeah, absolutely so get amongst it, all
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right. The old synopsis, we're back to the box set of as we've
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been told to call it in twenty twenty three. I'm pretty sure if you
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look at the side of it, it says box set motherfucker. Yeah,
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we we're just comparing box set fine to this is the fat box set.
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But then we got the thin why have you got a body? Shame it.
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It doesn't have a body, Someda, it has fat. It isn't
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fat. We took it at the body Marina Backer and that's in the back
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of mine things. So mine mine looks like the back of that. Hey,
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don't call her that. That is a perfectly acceptable pronou The Vegass Project
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talk about it, like of synopsis on the these DVDs. This is one
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line. SG one travels to the Pegasus galaxy and the city of Atlantis in
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hopes to find a clue to a weapon that can destroy the Auri. That's
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so you need. That's all I mean for this episode. In fairness,
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that is all you need. I don't remember what Insiders is the next SG
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one episode. It's an even shorter one line. Synopsters that that disproves my
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point that here I was saying, like, well, you know, they're
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cooking with gas so much, it's like, we don't even need to like
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give you a little moose boosche. We're just going to say we're in Atlantis.
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That's all you need to know about this episode. And it's going to
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sell itself. Yeah, it's like one of those fancy restaurants that doesn't have
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a name. They're just like, we don't need to advertise, said we
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have a name. Yeah, this is this restaurant's quief you need is a
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fifteen waiting period. And it's literally just a sound. It's not even cold
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queen sound. That's I said last week that I watched Pegas's project, last
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week's Misbegotten and Morpheus from two weeks ago on the on the pod. I
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watched them all together, two hours sitting just bang bang bang, and we
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said that they made such a little reference to the idea of of Atlantis being
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a thing at the end of Morpheus that I watched this and it starts off
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Daniel's asleep. They're watching him. Oh, we better wake him up because
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he's gonna want to see this, and I'm like, oh, where they
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going? Oh my god? Why why would Daniel be so excited? I
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didn't even think about it. I'd watched that episode forty five minutes. Forty
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five minutes before that section which because was mentioned by Daniel, there was a
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glossed over I mean, that's an ad him saying the word Atlantis is a
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promotion for their for their spinners. What they should have done is in this
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episode, the way they used the Atlantis score throughout of it, throughout him,
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they should have used that at the end of Morpheus when he yeah,
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they should really they should have seen him find it and be like, hang
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on this like this is Daniel Jackson's storyline. This is you know, Daniel,
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Yeah, yeah, It's what I've been trying to do for years,
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Daniel since in season six PREMI this unbound, even the time he was yeah
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close, we got it closely with Morgan, the face been loudon of the
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ancients to I forgot what I was going to say. Now, Oh,
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that's why they didn't use the Atlantis thing at the end, because that's where
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you would have needed to fade to black. But Daniel said Atlantis, and
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then I got to be back, and then we went to the Varla scene
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where she was in front of the target, and that was the final scene
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of yeah, yeah, yeah, but you could have had if they'd flipped
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those around. And the last thing of the episode was Daniel saying like camera
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going oh, with such a waste, and then Daniel's going no, no,
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no, Atlantis and then the little Alantist push and then faded black.
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That would have got people ten hards. Yeah, we're even just explaining it
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a bit more because she said, oh, so you think that you neque
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to go to the Atlantis database, do you? Yes, that's like she
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leaped to that conclusion. Yeah, instead of having Daniel explained it a little
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bit better. Especially no Atlantis is the weapon. Yeah, yeah, anything,
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especially with I mean these shows were screening back to back on the same
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night, right. Yeah, So like if SG one, if Morpheus ended
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with him saying Atlantis cut to black into credits. Thirty seconds later Stargate Atlantis
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starts, if you had a couple of you know, staunch SG one only
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like the og this spinoff ship's bullshit. Daniel mentions Atlantis, what you're not
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sticking around to see what the Atlantis episode's about? And then when it starts,
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you've got this weird character. Well sure, but you've got weird so
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you will soon identify as being the leader of the Expedition Atlantis. Now,
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like she's at the SGC, You're like, oh, no, I've got
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to watch this. That's not the blonde check from last week. Yeah,
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but like she's at the SGC. Oh, I've got to hang on wolves'es
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here. Holy shit, I've got to stick around for this. And in
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season she was in season eight, she was in New Order. Yeah oh
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yeah, right, yeah, they had they used they used the Blonde Chicken,
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Lost City, and then New Order they had Tory Higgins. Yeah,
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because the New Order rolled straight into Rising, Yes, and yeah, she
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was would be somewhat recognizable. Yeah, yeah, but like what a like,
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what are three weeks of? Like? I wish that I would have
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had this memory, but I guess I probably needed to watch Atlantis at the
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time just to because especially if Atlanta SG one knew it was coming to its
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end or something like, this really could have been the end game. The
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culmination of of these shows is they actually need to come together to fight off,
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you know, their own respective enemies. Ironically, they're actually in world.
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They are only three weeks away from finding out they were canceled. Oh
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really, wow two hundred or whatever it wasn't That's when they cut the cake
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and it's like you're canceled. I went, yeah, I think we're done.
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Yeah, what do you see in the cake? Is there any budget
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in there? You know why you're cut. Yeah, Robert, that's because
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you guys are cut too. All right, everyone do a lab, don't
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bother your cut, just really it. In this episode, just really felt
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like, oh, this is where these shows are naturally building, you know,
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like not that I think, you know, the length that the Guld
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lasted in SG one is like the dominant threat. I kind of wouldn't like
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to have seen the Wraith wrap up in three. But if SG one's about
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to finish, the Orrye like they're bigger and they're worse than the Gould.
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But as far as a narrative, as far as an audience, like,
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they're not as cool as the Gul the good they're no Awry has come along
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and being bloody Apophus. No one's coming. No one's coming close to that
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Gold guy. Right. I don't even know their real names, these guys,
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so would I care? Well until Andrea shows up there it's a difference.
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Well yeah, but we're talking about the prize mainly. Yeah, you
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know, you're not like we know Big Pete, Cliff, Poff Daddy,
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we know them all actual. Yeah, So you just felt like this,
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you know, Atlantis was going to help SG one wrap up, you know,
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these these teams are going to come together and then maybe Atlantis goes off
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and has its own or I phase where they get another new bad go or
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maybe the Wraith don't. But you know, they came together to stop the
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Wraith invading the Milky Way and destroy the al right at the same time.
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But then the Wraith is still you know, infesting around the Pegasus galaxy.
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So it's funny because when Atlantis was conceived, there wasn't supposed to be in
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a crossover. We talked about it in Rising. One of the whole reasons,
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like Bradon and Rob what they talked about was they do didn't want to
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have another team running around the Milky Way galaxy because then when the end of
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the World happens, people going to go, where's SG one? What are
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theseus doing? The same way in all the Marvel movies, we're like,
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where are the Avengers? Why aren't they here fixing this? This kind of
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makes it makes him know why yeah, yeah, yeah, So there was
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never supposed to be any sort of crossover connectivity. I don't know if it's
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because obviously when it was conceived, RDA was still on the show. He
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was the general in season eight, and then obviously now in season nine and
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ten of SG one, they've had to rejig things up, change storyline.
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Now we're dealing with the or I, because I often wonder would with the
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aur I storyline ever ever existed if Jack O'Neil had stayed on the show and
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they didn't have to do that sort of soft reboot to quote unquote Stargate Command
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in season nine. So I feel like this was very much a natural progression.
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But yeah, Atlanta was never supposed to have any contact with it.
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That was to be completely separate, kind of like what they do with Universe.
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I was going to say, is that like the gamble that they then
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took, going, hey, we were going to do that. We didn't.
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Now they kind of did in season one because they didn't have any ZPMs.
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Yeah, yeah, they couldn't contact us. We couldn't contact them until
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the end of season one. By the end of season one, it's kind
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of yeah, But now it's like we've got a second Dadalus class ship.
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It's rocked up here. But I love it. I'm so glad they did
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because and you know me, I'm a star trek nerd. No star Trek
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crossover was ever as good as this episode of SG one. Oh no way
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this I don't actually think this is the best crossover episode. Well, I
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think I know the one you're thinking of. Yeah, yeah, I don't,
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No, you don't. Yeah, No, I take this one over
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that one any day of the week, both only because you know, you
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know why I prefer this one over that one. I mean, I love
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this one. Yeah. Yeah, there's just that there's an important person missing
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from the one you were talking about. Yeah, that I can't I can't
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deal with. Although it is weird that there's no Ronan and Taylor in this
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episode. You get, you get Weird, you get McKay. Yeah.
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There's a lot of people to write for, isn't there, especially in their
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briefing. Yeah, you get a little bit of John at the start,
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like you get him. He kind of hands over the lemon. Yeah and
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yeah yeah, which, by the way, that was supp he did the
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commentary. That was an afterthought because the other scene where Cam holds up the
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lemon to mackay Togain do stuff later in the episode, that was filmed first.
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Yeah, So then they went back and did the whole thing with the
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whole group, and they went that lemon kind of comes out of nowhere,
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doesn't it, And they came up with it on the spot, the idea
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that Joe was the one sorry shepherd was the one that gave Cam the lemon.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's just such a great moment. They've they've like,
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what just met each other and already the Air Force bros. Yeah,
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it's like this guy's been I've been looking after him for a couple of years.
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He's been looking after me. We're both like either together separately save this
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entire base time and time again. But if you want, you can shoot
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him. So also, if you don't want to shoot him, make him
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insanely allergic to this bad boy, you know, shock the medanist. That
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I love about that though, is Cam and John having that conversation being like,
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well, you look like you've done pretty well for yourself here, but
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yeah, a good spurt. We're just painted. That's because Ben Browder was
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supposed to get the role of sheep Shepherd. He got it, he got
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it. Really, the reason he couldn't do it is because Peacekeeper Wars fast
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Gate peace Keeper Wars got a green lit, so he wasn't available. So
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then they cast Joe Flanagan. Wow, interesting because I thought he missed out
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to Flannagan. No, No, he well maybe I mean maybe Ben Brader
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had to pull out. Maybe it was down to those two and Browder had
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to pull out because of Peacekeeper Wars. I don't know, but yeah,
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was obviously. So it's really good to see that. I think it worked
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out for the best. I think so as as much as like looking at
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those two, they are very very similar in a lot of ways. Joe
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Flanagan is Shepherd. That's a very specific sort of look. But then when
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you listen to this, I kind of would have loved, like in an
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alternate universe, yeah, to see a show where Browder was playing Shepherd,
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just because of this. The only way to disconnect before Cheyanne Mountain got swallowed
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up was to set off a shape charge right at the event horizon. Now
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that energy spike forced our outgoing wormhole to jump to another stargate that was relatively
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close by, and if we can do it again, we can tie up
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through ori supergate indefinitely. Even if you were able to establish an initial connect
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and a dialing crystal capable or do you have one, and if you want
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to keep the connection open for more than thirty eight minutes you'll find Yeah,
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is not our first barbecue, Doctor McKay. I am just saying the yield
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calculations can be extremely tricky, if not borderline impossible. You need me,
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Colonel Carter said as much. Where were gonna tell him? That? Just
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the back of like give it. That is Cam and McKay's first scene.
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Yeah, the chemistry they have immediately the back and forward. I feel like
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Shepherd kind of because Joe is kind of that surfer bro skateboarder bro. He's
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a little more chill about it. He's just like, yeah, whatever,
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whereas Ben Browner kind of gets into it, like gets irritated by him and
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gets and with him. He's probably already heard about him. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah. Carter spent the last two weeks telling him about it.
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Like but also, like you say that ultimate reality stuff, That's what
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was going through my head before you said that was it would have been too
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deep of a cut and forward thinking, even on a on a meta referencing
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level, to have done it last season in that what was the effects,
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But to do it now. There was another episode down the track where there
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was another sort of we're running into alternate SG teams of some description, and
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they ran into another SG one and g one not not not Joe Flanagan as
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Mitchell, but Shepherd was leading the team and they got like, Shephard,
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what are you doing? Where's Camra Mitchell? And they're like, what the
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guy over in Atlantis? Why he's over there? Just as a reference point
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to the people that you know that that behind the scenes. So because I
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didn't know that either, I knew that like he was in the running.
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I think I was in the same boat as Brennan, and I thought that
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he just yeah, yeah, maybe maybe I'm misinterpreting sort of the stuff that
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I read and the and the interviews and stuff I've heard, But I think
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it works out better because they ended up reuniting with with Claudia Black anyway,
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which altely. I mean, those two they kind of get closer as it
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moves on, but it's it's I wish they had have had more scenes together,
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yeah with that, because it feels like Varlas just attached to Daniel's hip.
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Yeah, unnecessarily, yeah, yes, Like yeah, even in this
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episode, it's like, what is she here? What is she She doesn't
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need to be there, Yeah, and like they even on the Odyssey,
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they fly in, Daniel stands in front of the captain. Did you notice
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that? And then they're all they're all in front of the viewing screen or
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it's a window. I don't know what it is. Oh, yes,
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a window. That's the captain's first time there too. He's thanks for blocking
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my view. Well, and now we've spoken about this before, like obviously
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there's the whole you know, Weir and colonel what's the guy, the captain
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of the Daedalist, the command of Coldwell Coldwell, Yeah, there's the whole
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thing there about you know, who's in charge and all those you know,
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all that kind of stuff, And we've spoke about it for even with Prometheus
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and that kind of thing. In this episode, I noticed when they get
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to the point where they're deciding to use two nukes at a time, Sam's
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like, this is what I think we need to do. And then they
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looked at Emerson and he's like, well, I'm not a big fan of
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bring in the Odyssey and I've got a you know, blah blah blah.
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And she's like, I think that's what we should do. And then he
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kind of looks to Cam and goes okay, and then Cam goes, okay,
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let's do it. So it's like Cam was actually, yeah, it's
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his ship. Well, no, it's Emerson's ship. Yeah, that's what
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I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, but he had to give It's like Emerson
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had to say okay, that he was willing to do it, but then
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Cam was the one that actually gave the audit. It was like Cam was
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actually in command over Emerson. Emerson technically technically was reporting two Cam for the
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mission, like in the same way Caldwell is in command of the Daedalus,
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but then we're is in command of like the mission. This was like Cam
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was in charge of the mission and Emerson was just in charge of the Odyssey.
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Have a listen. We only have four devices left and we need to
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sot with this. I'm also concerned that two successive blasts might overwhelm the stabilizer
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rockets drive the gate closer to the bent horizon of the black hole. I'm
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not crazy by bringing the artisty and that much closer, I think it's worth
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the risk. And then this is where Emerson looks to Cam, gives in
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the nod and goes, yeah, okay, all right, do it.
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Up, but then yeah, they need the order from Cam at the end
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there, so is he in charge? He's he in charge of ST One?
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I guess he Yeah, yeah, he's squ one leader. Yeah,
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yes, it just depends on because he's a full bird colonel. I think
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Carter is a full bird colonel at this point. She was a lieutenant colonel
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in like season eight or whatever when it was just a three of them,
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like when Jack was a So I think Cam and Sam are equal rank,
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but Cam is the leader of You would assume if they're going to give command
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of a ship to someone, he's going to be a full bird colonel as
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well. So the three of them are all same rank, but Cam Emerson
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Sam. Yeah, basically in terms of this mission, which I found such
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a ground but also like in terms of the military and chain of commands.
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Yeah, but also quite interesting the way it has to be done. So
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it's like, yeah, like Emerson could put his two cents in, But
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then at the end, when he's like, yeah, okay, Sam's right,
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Cam is the one that has to give the order. Yeah. I
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felt like Cam was looking at him going can we like because he has to
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Emerson has to decide he has the experience if his ship can actually handle that.
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Yeah, so like Emerson has the best interest of his ship at at
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heart, whereas Cam has to deal with the entire mission as a whole.
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Yeah. So, I because you think about that, they didn't They didn't
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do the okay because Emerson said it. They gave got the okay because Cam
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said it. Like since said I'm okay to let my ship go in.
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But then Cam was the one that had to say, all right, let's
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do the two bomb plan because I know, I guess the gate was going
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closer to the event horizon. They had those those spray things on the gate,
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but that's not going to keep it the stabilizer, it's not going to
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keep it in orbit. Yeah. Yeah, because of them, they were
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degrading. And then yeah, so were they shaped charges? Well, they
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were just nukes. I don't know, because I felt like because they were
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talking about a matter of time. Yeah, they referenced the shape chargers.
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Yeah, I don't know whether there because I just feel like they didn't the
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CGI didn't really show. They kind of just covered their eyes and I guess
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they could probably cover that by the The shaped charge was to get a normal
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stargate to jump to another normal stargate, and then McKay was on the board
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up the size of a stargate is relative, does he need that much more
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energy? So I think that's why they then went with nukes. So I
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guess at that point it doesn't have to be charged because it's just a matter
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of energy. And they're right next to us. I didn't understand how they
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were talking about the power. Did you get that it was like twenty five
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percent of something? And she's like, I knew you would say that,
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and he's like, well, otherwise you're going to incinerate the gate. Yeah,
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So like those those dukes, you can you can calibrate them to how
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how much the explosion can be. So, like I did some research.
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So it's like they said, it's a it's a twenty six megaton explosion is
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what they're capable of, right, but you can get them anywhere from one
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to twenty six in that in terms of how yeah, how big you want
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them to be as a reference. Now, I don't know if um,
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so twenty six megatons, that's twenty six thousand killer tons, right, Oh
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yeah, godda, so killer tons obviously much Moller, you've been onto conversion
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do I absolutely have. The most famous obviously nuclear bombs like that we know
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about is Hiroshima. Hiroshima, everyone pronounced it. That was only fifteen killer
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tons, So that was fifteen kilo tons. One of the five bombs that
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we had was twenty six thousand killer tons. Holy, and we had five
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of them. Yeah, they're massive now. Nagasaki was twenty five killer tons
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so, and the Nails was twenty six thousand kilo tons. The biggest nuclear
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bomb humans have ever created was in nineteen sixty one. It was the Russians
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Big Surprise. It was a bomb called Big Ivan and it was thrago if
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they die. It was a fifty mega ton so the ones that SG one
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has right now twenty five. So it was twice the size of one of
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the SG ones in terms of its capacity to explode. They'd originally designed it
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to be one hundred megatons, and they realized there was no way to safely
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test that, so they brought it back to twenty five megatons. But one
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bomb was eight meters long and weighed twenty seven tons. Oh my god.
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What Whereas SG one has five are capable of doing the same thing, that
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are like the size of a coffin and probably weigh a couple hundred kilos,
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and they were wasting one on the Wraith last week. Yeah that's crazy.
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Could have just stabbed him in the head be done with them. Yeah.
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Yeah, So these bombs can be calibrated in terms of the explosive yield,
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right, that they can do. Because I didn't really get that. I'm
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like, because, oh, was it about the shape charge or the direction
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or hy not? They didn't do shape charges. Yeah. Well, I
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think a shape charge like just it just means it explodes towards the stargate rather
24:51
than towards just everywhere, yeah, rather than towards the gate room. Whereas
24:55
when you're in space, I don't think a shaped charge is going to matter.
24:59
And also in s G one it had to jump there's Wormheart to jump
25:03
to a whole other Solar system, whereas in this episode we had the gate
25:11
right next to the supergate. That's as far as it had to jump,
25:15
you know, so it needed more energy because of the size of the suit.
25:18
It's also the point of origin is a different in a different galaxy.
25:22
Yeah, correct, Yeah, but obviously energy can just you know, that
25:26
doesn't matter, like as far as energy traveling through the stargate, Like,
25:29
it doesn't lose anything traveling through the stargate, but those explosions had to calibrate
25:33
so that they didn't destroy the stargate as well. Yeah, so that super
25:37
gate is just gonna sit there, open to a black hole. Yeah,
25:42
and it means, yeah, the Auriya can't use it, so can they?
25:49
Can they puddle jump to the Milky Way? Then what do you mean?
25:56
Well, them from Pegasus, you get into a puddle up, you
26:00
go towards that black hole, you go through that event horizon, you're in.
26:03
Oh, I guess. I guess if the puddle jobber can survive that
26:07
close to the black hole, I guess. I guess the time dilation will
26:11
yeah down. And I guess it a certain at a certain point that stargate
26:18
is going to fall into the event horizon and be destroyed, and then that
26:22
way the supergate will shut down. But I guess it's but it could be
26:25
years, it could be years, decades, it could be anything. So
26:29
it was a bit weird. I mean, I fucking love this episode,
26:30
but it wasn't perfect. Like the size of that Supergate changed dramatically from shot
26:36
to shot, like if you remember back in Beachhead, each one of those
26:41
segments came through the stargate. There was no way those motherfuckers were fitting through.
26:45
Yeah. And then in Camelot at the end of last season, each
26:51
Aura ship had to come through one at a time, and they basically took
26:53
up the entire width of the supergate Whereasi things doing hot lapse over the top
26:59
of it in certain scenes. But then right at the end when there's that
27:02
awesome bit where the Coolrooch takes it out, it's suddenly almost taking up the
27:07
entire stargate. So it might have just been in terms of perspective, and
27:10
we couldn't sort of tell from from the sen but the size looked very,
27:15
very different from shot to shot. Yeah, definitely the Alkesh. I was
27:19
actually surprised the size comparison compared to the Gate because I'm like, damn,
27:23
that's huge. Yeah, because I don't feel like, if you think about
27:29
previous episodes Alkesh compared to a cargo ship, like that's yeah, like they
27:37
they have those same same size windows. Yeah, and that wasn't that different.
27:41
I didn't think imagine if in that kick ass episode I Love back in
27:44
like season four or five, remember when they had to they were with Jacob
27:47
and they had to beam the mine on board the cargo ship and oh,
27:52
yeah, that's it. Imagine if they were in an Alkesh instead and they
27:55
had all that room they remember they emptied out an Alcas and just had a
27:57
we have so much room for tivities. Yeah, then they would have had
28:02
so much more room to diffuse the bomb exactly. Yeah, I missed witched
28:06
star Gate. They were talking about when until and they said, oh,
28:10
you know, cloak, and so he cloaks and like guests get really close
28:12
to the stargate and you'll be able to cloak it too. And I'm like,
28:15
thing's massive, There's no way that chip's got enough power. And then
28:21
I see the like a tiny, actual size start. I'm like, oh
28:23
right. And then two minutes started the saying wow, just you cloaking that
28:27
star stargate is like draining your power like crazy, so you go to turn
28:33
off all non essential and I'm like, yeah, so like that never would
28:37
have happened. Clearly him or they can beam an entire building it, yes,
28:41
into space. And then Till had to go radio silence and then SGE
28:44
eleven almost killed him by contag him and being like, can you do the
28:48
thing? Can you let that? It was like that the Two Towers reference
28:53
all over. Remember when they did that in the episode at the SG on
28:57
episode where he's like, oh the Twilight bar oh no, Lord of the
29:00
Rings, where they liked it, like the thing, it was kind of
29:03
the same. We're from the Pegasus Galaxy contacted the SGC, who then contacted
29:11
SG eleven in the Milky Way Galaxy, who contacted TILK in the Milky Way
29:15
Galaxy, who then contacted back to the Pegasus Galaxy. Threw that over,
29:21
Yeah, that there was a Wraith ship on its way, and that I
29:23
think just trying to work out that. I just kept forgetting where everybody was
29:29
and because I'm like, oh they can you know they have to be in
29:32
the same ga. No, they handed because they got an open worm,
29:33
but they get relayed, right, Okay, now it makes sense. But
29:37
all of a sudden, like this is just amazing visuals on my screen.
29:40
I kept forgetting to take it in because I was trying to work out,
29:44
trying to work whose episode this is exactly. Honestly, every five minutes I
29:48
think that I thought that it was a different show. I just didn't sat
29:51
there and just enjoyed the ship out of it. Like I didn't write too
29:53
many notes. I just haven't sat there and enjoyed a Stargate episode like that.
29:57
No long, I don't think I either. And then and then there's
30:00
amazing scenes where it's just Daniel Varla and Weird just in a room just talking.
30:06
I mean, I wasn't gonna well, and they were. They were
30:11
good too, but I just even early on, like I just miss seeing
30:14
Carter and Mackay bicker. Yeah, like at that round table ship and like
30:18
just like McKay, yeah, like it's like so good. Yeah it was.
30:22
And I thought, if you only watch SG one, that's the Mackay
30:26
that you remember, he hasn't changed, Whereas if you watch Atlantis, you
30:30
go, no, I like him because he's like that. But if you're
30:33
only watching SG one, you go, yeah, I still hate this guy.
30:37
Like it just it worked. It worked whether you only watch SG on
30:41
one, it works if you only watched Atlantis. I think it's just a
30:44
great crossover. He's so weird because he comes over and he tells her about
30:48
Grace under pressure. Yeah yeah, and it's kind of good. It's kind
30:52
of sweet, but then he makes it real and then he just good checks,
31:00
just gives her the up and down his walking away and I to the
31:04
to their yeah, to their credit with yeah, the show has had a
31:08
problem with stuff like that, but to their credit, just like, at
31:12
no point did Sam at all find that charming ever, which I'm glad,
31:17
I'm glad, I'm glad they didn't try to Sam kind of like which was
31:21
you know, like well, aside from the you were partially naked, like
31:23
he was doing his best to go no, no, no, Like me,
31:26
imagining you in the situation actually kept me alive because I needed your intelligence
31:32
to help, even though it was my own intelligence. I needed someone who
31:34
could think as well, if not better than me in that situation, who's
31:37
had experience and to unlock that in me. So on a purely intellectual platonic
31:42
level, you helped me. She's that's really nice. And then he stared
31:49
too long. She's like the more yeah, the more that he talks,
31:52
She's like, yeah, but it's going to be too good to be true.
31:55
And I love the fact that partially like in the same way when he
31:59
was having that that fight with Weir in her office and she's like, you
32:01
bore up a solar system. He's like five eights. You know, there
32:07
was reminded me. I saw a meme. You're telling me Julius Caesar,
32:12
who has been dead for well over seventy years, made this salad. And
32:15
the comments like, technically you aren't wrong with that number, but I just
32:20
hate it, Like, yeah, Julius Caesar has been dead for well over
32:24
seventy years. Oh well over yeah, but it's like really really so yeah,
32:30
I feel like Rodnie's doing that. He's like, I was naked.
32:32
She's like, I was naked, wasn't I partially yet I couldn't see below
32:38
the water line? Yea. I like it how she's like talking about the
32:45
the Daniel scenes, the ancient who was hiding as the as the hologram gannis
32:58
Lah and she says a Proclrooge towne Us was destroyed because of the sun,
33:02
and he's like, yeah, I know that, I've been there. Yeah,
33:07
a nice call back to lost city. Yeah, just like such nice
33:13
little touches. But he just couldn't leave it alone and she just gave him
33:16
the answer. Yeah. It's like because I've forgotten that, he said,
33:21
like before this rewatch, I'd forgotten that he said. Elizabeth tried to ask
33:27
already yeah, yeah, and then even as they're walking down the stairs,
33:30
she says it as well, I asked, yeah, yeah, we checked,
33:35
but there's nothing for that direct translation. And then yeah, and then
33:38
once Varla's like, just ask Daniel, which I was kind of like,
33:43
just do it anyway, because he actually the way he worded his question,
33:47
maybe we wouldn't have yeah, worded hers like maybe she did in old English
33:52
and blah blah blah. You know, she could have just said it find
33:54
me a planet called Procro No no, Vegan Bray, Vegan Bray, castianas
34:01
Castiana sal and Vagan Bray. Yeah. So yeah, so we'd already been
34:07
too, Vagan Bray, that's where we were in. So yeah, it
34:08
was just Castile and Saha, and she just gave him those yeah, and
34:14
she's like, now can we do some champagne. He just couldn't let it
34:16
go. And then the bit that I always remember about this episode is when
34:21
Morgan le Fay just looks directly, you've got your answers, Daniel Jackson,
34:24
yeah, answer, which you find out later on he doesn't. She gave
34:31
him the addresses to those twos don't spoil it. Yeah, no, but
34:36
I'm not going to go any further. But she's like, you have your
34:38
answers. Not really, because the answer that he actually needed is what she
34:44
said at the end right as she got pulled away. She's like, it's
34:45
not and we'll talk about it when we eventually find out what she was going
34:51
to say there. But yeah, she didn't actually give him the answers.
34:54
But like I was saying back in Morpheus, we sort of touched on it.
34:59
I would really like know when Daniel got on her radar, like,
35:06
has she been watching them the whole time? Was it the fact that when
35:09
they went to Vagan and Bray, maybe she's been keeping an eye on Vagan
35:12
Bray because of what happened there where she had to go and do the Runner.
35:16
She obviously didn't help anything there in terms of what was going on there.
35:20
She's happy for Daniel to die. Yeah, So then it's like,
35:22
was it only one did she send the hazmat team? Yeah? Maybe that's
35:28
my answer? Is she only in the Pegasus scale? Is she not looking
35:30
in the Milky Way at all? And it's only because they got to the
35:34
Pegasus galaxy that she was like, oh, I'm keeping an eye on you.
35:37
But she well she knew Daniel. Yeah, she knew Daniel, but
35:42
it's like she also knew about the threat of the ore I, and the
35:45
ore A no threat to the Pegasus galaxy at the moment, They're only a
35:47
threat to the Milky Way. So yeah, I would have loved to have
35:52
spent more time understanding all that and obviously more well, yeah, I don't
35:55
think the writers know because they're saying that the Aria and their home galaxy,
36:02
the ancients are in Milky Way and Pegas's, so it's supposed to be on
36:07
a higher plane of existence and not geographic. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
36:12
And then also it's hinted at in this because obviously they didn't like they
36:16
set up very quickly that Morgan la Fay was an enemy of Merlin's and then
36:21
very quickly in this episode they say she's like, well that was you know,
36:23
that was thousand years ago, like you know, you used to used
36:28
to not be friends with the poffice and then you go as the friends for
36:30
all you know, Like she's just like things change and then just move on.
36:34
And I was like, oh, okay, all right, So yeah,
36:36
I definitely would love to know more about Morgan la Fay's past. I
36:38
think there was a missed opportunity to find out more about her. But I
36:43
love that actress too. She was in Life as We Know It, a
36:46
really short lived show with the guy from uh Is. She never never backed
36:52
down. Um No, she's Canadian. She played Ozi your Bourne' daughter's name
37:00
Kelly Osbourne. She played Kelly Osbourne's mother in a show called Life as We
37:05
Know It, and then Craig Ferguson was their father. So it's a good
37:08
show but weird. Yeah, I just like I like that. At the
37:14
same time, there's a Wraith coming to get us in Pegasus, there's an
37:17
a ship come to get Tilk. Actually that's the only thing I was disappointed
37:22
with. I'm like, why isn't Tilk kid, Yeah, witnessing Atlantis to
37:25
you work just as hard and the varalas here, which is annoying, But
37:29
then like it's obviously a good reason, but you could have had Braktack or
37:31
someone. Yeah, but I think Tilk was low key the hero of this
37:37
entire episode. Oh yeah, he basically single handedly destroyed both ships. Yeah
37:44
yeah, without even so much as cracking a smile. Like at the end,
37:46
he wasn't like he's the only thing he didn't do is just listen to
37:51
McKay and or whoever whoever said get the hell away Carter, Carter, get
37:55
the hell away from there, and he just is just going to see what
38:00
happens. Slowly goes goes away from the stargate and shoots up. Dude.
38:07
So good. Yeah, And for a second it's like, oh, you
38:10
think just the blast from the gate is what to destroy the ship, and
38:14
then the koush happens to You're like, whoa, it didn't make sense.
38:17
Well would they They're not that dumb to go close to it stargate. Well,
38:22
they already were, And I think the insinuation is that they could detect
38:30
Tilk, but they couldn't get a real like triangulation on him. So they
38:35
were like flying around to try and like if they can get close enough to
38:37
whatever this weird thing there is they're detecting, they'll be able to find it.
38:42
So that's why they were. You know, the ship was flying around
38:45
doing these weird things like when you go behind it. I mean, it
38:52
was cool regardless, but it was just like you could have been anywhere except
38:58
there, and you would have survived. Yeah, I guess it's that thing
39:00
of like, you know, if you if you see a line of ants
39:04
and you're like, I'm going to step on the exams, you don't expect
39:07
one of them to pull out a bazooka is there? You wouldn't stand around?
39:10
Oh yeah, true, true. I mean, yeah, I admit
39:15
I wouldn't let expect the ant to shoot the Berzuker. But at the same
39:17
time, I wouldn't stand in front of in the case. Yeah, but
39:22
it was your bozuoka, your bazooka sitting on the ground, So it's fine,
39:29
safety is on, like and then suddenly but it's your The ship.
39:40
That I really love is when it gets real nitty gritty into details, because
39:45
that's my jam. And it's like when Daniel is sort of probing Morgan the
39:50
Faith for questions and stuff like that, and she's still pretending to be the
39:53
the Hologram. She says that line about how doctor Weir was the first human
39:59
yeah to set foot on the Atlantis, since, well, if you can
40:02
watch Rising, that's not true. Ellen. Colonel Sumner was the first one
40:09
through. Weir was like fourth or fifth. They sent a tactical team through
40:14
first and then Elizabeth went through. But then a few months later in Before
40:21
I Sleep, she went back ten thousand years, so she was the first
40:25
human to set foot on the Atlantis base after that, so I'm like,
40:32
that's fucking cool. That's all wrapped up. She didn't say specific date,
40:37
did she. She said something about the exposition expedition. Yeah, doctor Elizabeth
40:43
will was the first human to set foot on the base. She might have
40:45
said after the evacuation, which is still true, because it's still true because
40:51
all the Atlantean's evacuated and behind to masturbate with the ZPPMA. We've always said
40:57
that, yeah, in a in a dirty wig. Yeah, So like,
41:01
I just love shit like that. But then they did miss a few
41:07
things. When the Odyssey is approaching Atlantis, when you see it in space,
41:13
it's right because you know how they like the Deador's class ships have,
41:15
you know, the little turtle shell and the weird little structure up on sort
41:19
of the back left, which Jacob was telling me apparently that's where the bridge
41:22
is up in like their left hand drive apparently, which I hate. I
41:25
hate that idea. I want it to be I wanted to be at the
41:29
tip of the Dick, that's where I want it to be. Yeah,
41:30
that's where I thought it was. Well, there's no sort official thing,
41:35
but apparently a lot of people saying that's where it is, up in this
41:37
little tower up on the left. I don't like it. Yeah, I
41:39
don't like it either. So yeah, so you see it like that when
41:44
it's in space. But then when you cut to the scene where you see
41:45
it like flying through the clouds approaching Atlantis, they've mirrored the image so that
41:51
little tower thing is now on the right hand side of the turtle shell.
41:57
So they that up. And then when you see the Odyssey releasing the stargate,
42:02
that stargate only has six glyphs on it that repeat, and one of
42:08
them is the Earth point of origin, so it only has six clifts,
42:12
and then the same six glyfts again, and then the same six clifts again.
42:15
I've never noticed that. I just read it in the trivia, but
42:19
I was like, just a CJ Gate, which is so weird because I
42:22
thought the shot was a reuse from Exodus when Carter blows up the Sun,
42:27
because it's virtually identical. The gate, you know, is released by docking
42:30
clamps and then has the little around it. Oh yeah, but you could
42:36
have added that in post. You could have been reused and added that in
42:37
post. But even though you had the little stabilizer rockets and stuff like that,
42:42
and it just flew towards no, because obviusly wouldn't have had access to
42:46
that. It was a it was a milky Way gate, huh, because
42:50
it would have been a milky Way gate calling a milky Way gate, yeah,
42:54
which I guess isn't an issue because the Pegasus gate in Atlantis calls the
43:00
Earth Gate. But that has a special crystal. Yeah, it's got a
43:02
special crystal. So interesting. Yeah, but I guess it would have had
43:08
to have been an eight cheven address as well. Actually, that's interesting.
43:13
What did they use the what did they uses? The point of origin?
43:20
They were at a black hole. Oh no, I've poked a hole in
43:23
it. No, maybe it's maybe it's just something that has enough mass to
43:30
be looking. They used the Ball stuff to reprogram the gate to be whatever
43:37
they want it. When Ball was going to make his own little little subgroup
43:42
of his own little gate network, He's going to reprogram them anyway. They
43:45
use that stuff they used Avenger. Yeah, Well, next week to talk
43:52
about that. Oh really, Well, they talk about collecting Space Gates insiders
43:59
in sorry in Atlantis. Yeah. Interesting, I mean, yeah I haven't
44:04
I've gone ahead to that one, and you know what that means. Oh
44:07
yeah I do. Oh yeah. We joked about like not knowing at times
44:14
which show this episode belonged to if you were just sort of immersed in it.
44:16
But very early on it's very clear who show it is, because I
44:22
don't think I've ever seen the Atlantis staff crew whatever all dress up as much
44:31
as they did in this episode. Everybody's wearing their officials. We had a
44:36
jacket zipped all the way up, Atlantis patch, red turtleneck. Everyone's wearing
44:43
what flag that you know, what country. One's coming to the Holy Ship.
44:49
So I thought they're dressed like the Bee boys are coming over for dinner.
44:52
It's just like where guys are on here roll out the carpet. So
45:00
yeah, I'm like, oh, that's kind of cute. It's like these
45:01
guys are getting the bigger budget, you know, they're the sort of they're
45:05
the new guys in town sort of thing. But also it's like, hey,
45:07
Legacy blokes over here. Yeah all right. Well, it was also
45:09
to William Wearing the director in the commentary, he said this was his He's
45:14
never shot for us, I believe. He said he's never shot for Atlantis
45:16
for this was his first time. So he's like, he shot it a
45:20
little differently, like he used a little bit wider angle lens and he filled
45:24
it more with people and did those long like there's an amazing long shot where
45:29
you know, my my favorite trio Daniel Valla and we are like they walk
45:32
down the stairs and come around the corner and walk down to the hologram room
45:36
and all that kind of stuff, and he's like, well, Wearing was
45:38
like, well, you know, it's a big, giant set. It's
45:40
beautiful. You know, you populate with all these people, so so it
45:44
looks like busy and full and yeah, so obviously, yeah, adding all
45:47
people in different yeah, it was beautiful. Like that shot we were talking
45:52
before, where did they paint the set because it looks kind of different.
45:57
It looked the same. I know there's a joke later in the season where
45:59
they talk about that. No, Shepherd said it no, no, I
46:02
know. There's an actual joke later on about with the return, like the
46:06
mid season there's a joke there about painting itself, but yeah, it looked
46:10
the same to me, so yeah, maybe it was just yeah, the
46:13
way it was shot. But that scene, i've never seen that shop full,
46:16
the spot where Cam and John were sort of standing on that little sort
46:22
of little nobbly sort of bridge bit and looking out over thee We've never seen
46:28
the gatorum from that angle. Yeah, coming out of the of the conference
46:32
room and stuff like that. And even just to relay to someone like me,
46:36
who's you know, if you're watching it for the first time as it
46:37
was coming out live, to hey, how big is this? You know,
46:40
Oh, we've barely scratched this percentage, yeah, they'd she say,
46:45
half. Yeah, it's like we're almost two two and a half years.
46:50
Yeah, and I love that. It's like now, you know, not
46:52
that we see you go exploring rooms and buildings and sections of the city every
46:57
week on SGA or anything like that, but the idea that, yeah,
47:00
you have been there for that long and it's still so big. Ship's going
47:04
on between episodes behind the scenes. You know, we're nowhere near We may
47:09
never do that, you know, all the systems that are in place,
47:12
we may never figure all this out in our lifetimes. And she that just
47:15
reminded me. I forgot about it last week. So obviously there's the balcony
47:17
scene where it's it's weird Valor and dangs to the dream Team out on the
47:21
balcony having a chat, and they have to obviously have to give you dream
47:24
teams on the ship. Bro. No, this is my dream team,
47:29
my dream team. This is my wet dream team. I mean, Daniel,
47:31
this is my wet dream team. My my, you know, just
47:35
three of them just going at it. That'd be I mean, I'd watch
47:37
it. Yeah, absolutely, just weird brings in zz PM as well.
47:44
It's actually a four John actually I actually got one. Oh you don't,
47:57
that's what she's finished John Room. So obviously when they're out on the balcony,
48:01
it's, you know, it's it's an interior for exterior kind of situation.
48:05
They have to make it look like it's outside. That's the way they
48:07
shoot it. They get a fan to get a bit of wind in people's
48:09
hair and stuff like that. Last week they did a scene with Colonel Caldwell
48:19
and Richard Woolsey. We're out on the balcony and then they wheeled out the
48:23
fan and turn it on in the director when I don't think we're going to
48:28
need that. Can we get a scarf and have that blown around? And
48:37
then obviously we've got to talk about it, Brendan. The bigger thing at
48:40
the end, What does Cam suggest to get us away from the wormhole?
48:45
The black hole? A sling shot? I know, yeh, famous until
48:53
we get to fast Game in five years, Mitchell, and and you're getting
49:00
the Fastcape programs doing shut. That's how the starts. It's nice for him
49:06
to say suggest the sling shut. I was expecting to draw it the formula.
49:12
He doesn't Fastcape. It's fun looking at the either interpretation or the animation
49:17
of a black hole from you know, two thousand and six thousand and seven,
49:21
where it was more like a drain because rather than just sort of like
49:24
disappearing into like yeah, it was going down it, it was sinking yeah,
49:30
like which a lot of the nerds online are saying, that's not how
49:32
that works. There's no three dimensions to that's like it just sort of like
49:37
goes around and then just like we don't know, yeah, you know,
49:39
like it's but apparently Christopher Nola wanted to lie that matter well. William Wearing
49:45
to his credit the director. He was actually on the pointed out apparently in
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the past, like with the Replicator episodes and stuff like that, they made
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the black holes white or whatever it is. William Wearing specifically requested that it
49:57
had a blue tinge to it because apparently the science behind it is in terms
50:00
of the way humans perceive, like the visual spectrum or whatever, blue blue
50:07
light particles or whatever are actually the last things to be destroyed by a black
50:10
hole or whatever. So to the human eye, black hole accretion disc obviously
50:15
we can't see the black hole itself with the accretion disc should be predominantly blue
50:19
because that's the last things that are being destroyed by the black hole. Apparently
50:23
from what I perceive, Yeah, yeah, yeah from the Yeah from the
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human like, obviously a dog would see it different. Obviously, I've been
50:30
talking a lot lately about as would the yellow. Yeah. I've been getting
50:36
all my information from TikTok lately. Apparently there's this new thing because dogs and
50:39
cats see in different spectrums. There's filters that can do that on TikTok for
50:44
you, And it's like if you buy a dog like a red ball and
50:47
like throw it in the grass. We as humans can see the difference dog
50:52
seed all as dogs see it all is the same color, so it's like
50:55
you actually might be better off buying your dog yellow ball for the green grass
50:59
whatever. But then apparently with cats, they've been putting them in rooms where
51:02
like you know how you can get like your LEDs and stuff now that change
51:05
color, and they're putting them to blue, And apparently cats are like losing
51:08
their minds because that actually shifts better to their light spectrum, so they can
51:14
see everything so much clearer and better. So it's like if you're in a
51:17
room with your cat and you have blue LEDs, Suddenly these cats are getting
51:21
like real, like up close to their owners and like rubbing up against it.
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Oh my god, I can see you for the first time. Yeah.
51:29
I don't know how much of it's true, but it's it's fun to
51:30
watch when you line in bed at eleven o'clock. Just you know, I
51:37
was looking for Google. You should know me by now, damn algorithm.
51:46
Before we go, there's a couple of little bits of audio I need to
51:49
play. One is this just because I need to jerk off to something later,
51:53
So just play this for me. I love it so much. Just
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a little long that I I'll need that time. I do. I mean,
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I understand the fine line you have to walk. I realize the risk
52:07
you're taking just showing yourself, but I'm sorry, I want more. You
52:13
can pass it on to your friends as well. Yeah, I know you're
52:15
listening because I am getting sick of hidden clues and cryptic messages. And Merlin
52:21
was right that the Ori are a threat but not only to us lowers,
52:24
not only to the billions of human lives throughout this galaxy, but to your
52:29
own existence. Because when this war is over and every soul that's left alive
52:34
is praying to the or feeding their need to be worshiped, you know who
52:39
they're gonna come for next. I don't pretend to know what that war will
52:45
look like or in what battlefield it will take place, but then I won't
52:49
be alive to see it. Classic Daniel, like this moisture that is so
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fucking good? We do you throw your own motality into it like that,
53:00
But it's like, no, I care beyond me dying. Yeah, yeah,
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it's not like I'm going to die and then will get the rest of
53:06
the galaxy and universe and get rude itself like I love I love speeches like
53:10
he's basically he's basically saying, bitch your next Yeah, yeah, if you
53:14
don't help us here, she knows that, yeah yeah, but it's obviously
53:17
you know the ancients and their rules and all that kind of things. So
53:21
and then I love it. And I know you're all listening. Yeah,
53:23
we know, you all know me. You've all seen me naked. Yeah
53:28
yeah, and yeah, and then I love the fact that you know that
53:30
the devastation at the end where he convinced her, he talked her around,
53:36
she went to help, and they yanked her away, and just that deflation
53:38
where they're all just like and then Daniel's like, She's like, what are
53:45
they going to punish it? I don't know, you don't pretend he just
53:50
doesn't want to feel guilty that he killed her. Yeah, he could have
53:53
just walked away with those two gate addresses and being happy. But yeah,
53:58
he killed her. Come I can ask you another day. Yeah. Yeah,
54:00
she's she's off in the Omen Desala room now. And then I feel
54:07
bad because this episode was written by Brad Right, all the all mighty powerful
54:10
Brad Right. I gave Cooper a lot of shit for it. The other
54:15
week with his liberal use of the term literally. I feel like this one's
54:21
not too bad, but I feel like I'm not being fair if I don't
54:23
bring it up against a gravity world. They're strong, They've literally got the
54:29
higher ground, Like I get it from a gravity point of view. Yeah,
54:35
but that's still figurative, isn't it. I wouldn't say that's literal relative.
54:39
Yeah, but it's like if if I'm standing at the bottom of a
54:44
hill and you're standing at the top of a hill, we're both still on
54:47
a hill, on a hill in the same amount of gravity. I have
54:51
the higher ground, Yeah, but we're on the same amount of gravity.
54:53
But it's like if I'm at the bottom of the hill and you're at the
54:55
top of the hill, but you're in ten times more gravity. I'm in
55:00
ten times more greater than you are. Do I suddenly have the high ground?
55:05
Or do I have literal highground? Do I have or do I?
55:07
And she said that I just kind of let that one go through to the
55:09
key. Yeah, look, I should have left it, but I just
55:14
thought to be a little more impartial. I just had to bring that up
55:17
respectful. Yeah, no, I Yeah, she didn't have to say literally
55:22
Yeah, she could have said relatively. Yeah, everyone knows time and gravity
55:29
is and space is relative. I loves to talk about relatively. She loves
55:31
it. She shouldn't say literally. Yeah. And then the other thing I
55:37
had was in the scene where Cam like first sees the accretion disc and he's
55:43
like cool, which is cool. He actually spikes the lens twice in that
55:49
scene. So after he has the face to face with McKay and goes which
55:53
is cool, and then kind of turns and rolls his eyes. He's supposed
55:58
to be looking towards Emmas and back on the bridge, but he totally spikes
56:01
the lens and kind of breaks the fourth wall as if he's looking at the
56:05
audience, going McKay. And then he goes and stands behind Emerson to Sam
56:10
and then she says something and then he looks back across and spikes the lens
56:15
again. Oh watching too much, David Bred, But yeah, love it
56:25
so good? Ten out of ten. Yeah, that's the only plot hole
56:29
is what's the point of origin from that? Yeah? Black hole which kind
56:35
of is ship. But maybe you're right, maybe they use something, Maybe
56:40
they figured out how the or I did it true, or there was a
56:47
planet near the black hole was there, Well, that's where the planet that
56:53
that Varla was on, That's what I thought. Then they used that gate
56:59
as the point of origin the planet Varala was on. Yeah, in the
57:02
in the ore galaxy, I was like, supposed suppose that they were going
57:10
to destroy that planet or something. Yeah, but we're not in the galaxy
57:15
in this episode. We're in the Pegasus and we're in the Milky But that's
57:16
what they The or I used that planet as the point of origin to get
57:22
to the Milky Way. Oh so you're saying the black hole and the Pegasus
57:25
galaxy, there could have been a planet there. It could have been Yeah,
57:30
right, that'd be convenient, very very convenient. Yeah, because obviously
57:32
the or I would have forcibly destroyed that planet to create a black hole,
57:37
whereas this would have had to have been a naturally occurring black hole. Yeah
57:40
that they know how to had a planet with starget address on it, stargate
57:45
on it. Yeah. Yeah, maybe no, they just used the baral
57:50
stuff and rewrote it. It's fine. I'm happy with that the ADS Guard
57:53
did it for them when they were when they were ferrying Woolsey and we're back
57:58
last week. They went. Here's the math on how to rewrite that so
58:00
you can. It's fine, don't even need a point of ourgin anymore.
58:04
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