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# 609 The Deep State Versus The Family: The Battle for Homeschooling Rights, When Teaching Virtue Is A Crime · Claymore: Become Who You Are

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Speaker 2: I'm with my good friend, tom Hampson.
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Speaker 2: Tom is a private investigator who was in crime, fighting his whole life, especially protecting children when underground, to fight against child porn, child sex trafficking, many other things.
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Speaker 2: Tom and I were speaking many years ago now about the exploitation of children all over the world, and then we started to see it more and more in the school systems.
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Speaker 2: And you just can't make this stuff up, can you, tom?
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Speaker 2: And the attack on children, and we're going to talk a little bit about homeschooling today.
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Speaker 2: The attack on homeschooling, and why?
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Speaker 2: Before I get into my little opener here, Tom, how are you?
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Speaker 2: I'm doing good, good to have you, good to have you here.
0:52
Speaker 2: You know I was going through a couple of quick things.
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Speaker 2: I mean, some things are just so irrational.
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Speaker 2: You know we have Elon Musk and Doge.
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Speaker 2: And did you see the Brett Beer interview by any chance, tom?
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Speaker 1: Yes, I did, yeah, and and I did.
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Speaker 1: You see the brett beer interview by any chance, tom.
1:09
Speaker 1: Yes, I, I did.
1:09
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't that wonderful these guys are, are brilliant men that are, that are, that are actually doing wonderful things to make the government more efficient they.
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Speaker 2: They are knowledgeable people.
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Speaker 2: I mean really a knowledgeable people and when they're describing the corruption, the waste of our taxpayer dollars, you know our whole system is actually a pyramid scheme.
1:32
Speaker 2: At this point, we're so far in the hole as far as debt and stuff goes.
1:36
Speaker 2: We are literally imploding.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if people understand that.
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Speaker 2: If Musk made this point, it's very, very true that if we don't do something fairly quickly, this whole system is going to implode anyways.
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Speaker 2: It's based on nothing but an illusion of paper that we're printing ourselves and then buying the paper and financing the paper.
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Speaker 2: It's an insane system.
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Speaker 2: It's taking all the money that we can from the middle class and the working poor and using it to line the pockets of these corrupt individuals.
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Speaker 2: A couple of different things.
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Speaker 2: Well, go ahead, Tom.
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Speaker 1: Well, look at the.
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Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things that he mentioned in that, in that Brett Baer interview with the Trump that Musk mentioned, was that survey that should have cost $10,000, that they spent $1 billion, not a million, a billion dollars and nobody was even paying any attention to it.
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Speaker 1: And so how incompetent do you have to be to spend that kind of money?
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Speaker 1: And then, even with the like, stacey Abrams got that $2 billion to give away.
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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: Got that $2 billion to, you know, to give away?
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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, it's.
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Speaker 2: These are simply ways to billion, not, not not $2 million, $2 billion to give away refrigerators.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you cannot make this stuff up.
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Speaker 1: This is just complete insanity, and the only, really the only, reason that was that they they did those things was number one to enrich the people who are making the refrigerators and to enrich the people that were administering the program, like Stacey Abrams and her friends.
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Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with making the world a better place.
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Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with helping people that are in need.
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Speaker 1: It is only to keep these people in money until the next election, when they can become you know, maybe get an elected position where they make money.
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Speaker 1: This is just an absolute scam.
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Speaker 1: Well, even.
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Speaker 2: The more incredible insanity is that we attack the messenger and the team that's trying to turn this around for all of us, and burning teslas and protesting out of these plants, the the amount of destruction going on, the violence going on is crazy.
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Speaker 2: So that's nuts.
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Speaker 2: So now I want to.
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Speaker 2: So that's at the national level, those people exposing those people in power.
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Speaker 2: So what are they doing?
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Speaker 2: Huh, there is a young guy, luke healy his name was.
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Speaker 2: He was in front of the House Government Committee in the state of Arizona.
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Speaker 2: He's a detransitioner.
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Speaker 2: He said that his parents and him were told that the only feasible course of action for his gender dysphoria was either transition to a girl or to commit suicide, and so he called this.
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Speaker 2: He's a detransitioner.
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Speaker 2: Talking about, you know, we have to push back on this thing and what it does to young people.
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Speaker 2: He called it a spiritual battle himself.
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Speaker 2: You know, satan doesn't have his own clay.
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Speaker 2: He can only take what God has created good and twist and distort it.
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Speaker 2: You're seeing this all over the world and with those people that are cooperating with evil to take down our nation, our marriages and families and our very children, tom, last thing, just real quick, is International Planned Parenthood.
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Speaker 2: Jeez, they say our rights are under attack.
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Speaker 2: Sexual and reproductive rights are human rights.
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Speaker 2: We have to stand to protect them for people everywhere.
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Speaker 2: And they mentioned Donald Trump and his vicious and calculated attack on trans and non-binary people, and what he's doing, of course, is standing up against this stuff, and I don't know if you want to say something about.
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Speaker 2: You know what is trans, tom?
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Speaker 2: I mean, is that something we need to stand up for?
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Speaker 1: Not at all.
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Speaker 1: It's a mental condition that these people have that need therapy.
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Speaker 1: They don't need chemicals and surgery.
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Speaker 1: This is ridiculous, that there is no possible way for somebody to transition from a male to a female or vice versa.
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Speaker 1: It's just, it's a physical impossibility.
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Speaker 1: And to anybody to say anything different, I don't care what their credentials supposed credentials are.
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Speaker 1: They're frauds and they're perpetrating on our culture a disaster.
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Speaker 1: For those people that receive their treatment.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing good that's going to come out of it.
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Speaker 1: For those people that receive their treatment, there's nothing good that's going to come out of it.
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Speaker 1: I just can't understand why people don't realize that.
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Speaker 1: Look, when they had everybody I think it was 10 years or so ago.
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Speaker 1: No, it was longer than that, it was 20 years ago.
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Speaker 1: I guess it was that when they had the whole thing about the circumcision female circumcision that everybody in the United States thought this was abhorrent because it was.
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Speaker 1: The Muslims would come here and there was their religion, they said, and they needed to protect the women from temptation and everybody said no, this is wrong.
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Speaker 1: This is completely wrong.
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Speaker 1: You're talking about female mutilation, right yeah, female general mutilation of what they called female circumcision, and every just about universally people condemned that as something that was wrong.
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Speaker 1: Now that doesn't even prevent them from having children at any time of the few you still have kids.
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Speaker 1: But this, the the trans surgery, the trans treatments prevent people from ever having children, ever.
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Speaker 2: And the main thing, I think, tom, I mean that's ridiculous right.
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Speaker 2: I mean the mutilation of children, rendering them sterile.
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Speaker 2: But even the crazier thing is it's impossible.
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Speaker 2: It's impossible for a man to be a woman Okay, so we get that.
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Speaker 2: Crazier thing is it's impossible.
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Speaker 2: It's impossible for a man to be a woman Okay, so we get that.
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Speaker 2: So now international plan parent also says talks about the, the national sex ed standards that you and I have talked about so many, many times before, how they're desensitizing and grooming kids and and turn them on to pornography in the schools.
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Speaker 2: But they say this if you don't allow this gender affirming care, if you don't allow these gender affirming care, if you don't allow these you know, these national sex ed standards to be put into schools, if you don't allow men to be able to go into women's locker rooms, this will just increase.
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Speaker 2: International planned parenthood says the, the rate of violence against and suicide in young people.
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Speaker 2: And nothing short of an act of state violence.
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Speaker 2: This is against trump.
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Speaker 2: Trump is committing an act of state violence now underneath.
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Speaker 2: That is is the most violent thing.
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Speaker 2: We're destroying children in the womb.
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Speaker 2: International planned parenthood, then they're trying the trans kids and all this kind of stuff.
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Speaker 2: Tom, I think anytime somebody says something to me in a talk I'm just going to hold up my hand and say this is a mirror.
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Speaker 1: This is a mirror.
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Speaker 2: This is your face in a mirror, and because everything that you say is coming right out of your heart, you know.
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Speaker 2: I mean this hatred, the violence, the vitriol, the attack on children.
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Speaker 2: And so this gets us into the subject that we're talking about today, which is the attack on homeschooling.
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Speaker 2: And the reason we set this up like this is that this attack on homeschooling, tom, is the same thing.
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Speaker 2: It's attacking everything that we just said.
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Speaker 2: It's taking down the nation.
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Speaker 2: It's working against children.
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Speaker 2: They call it ideology of parents.
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Speaker 2: That must be stopped right and these kids must be allowed to be able to come up into the tolerance of the new society that we have here.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to reference.
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Speaker 2: You sent me a piece on this law professor that's talking about this stuff.
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Speaker 2: It was amazing.
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Speaker 2: Her name is Elizabeth Bartholet.
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Speaker 2: She's a law professor there and she's talking about the legal oversight of education standards and safeguards we must have with these homeschool families and stuff, and at the end, it's getting them to conform with everything that you and I just said, with this power of the state and this takedown of marriage and the family of Christianity.
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Speaker 2: These are atheists, tom, that want to take down our country.
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Speaker 1: She expresses amazement that parents think that they should be able to raise their own children.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, educate their own children.
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Speaker 2: She calls them ideologues.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, ideologues, ideologues.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So if you are a Christian parent, we must push back against these ideologues that are trying to.
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Speaker 2: She says this many homeschooling parents are extreme ideologues Committed to raising Tom.
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Speaker 2: Listen to this their own children, with their belief systems, isolated from what our society is trying to teach.
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Speaker 2: Some people even believe that now she puts in the CRT, of course they got to do this.
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Speaker 2: Some people believe that black people are inferior to white people.
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Speaker 2: Some people, yeah.
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Speaker 2: And the other hand, there's some black people that feel that white people are inferior to him.
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Speaker 2: Either way, racism is racism and reverse racism is still racism.
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Speaker 2: These people are nuts him.
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Speaker 2: Either way, racism is racism and reverse racism is still racism.
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Speaker 2: I mean, these people are nuts, tom yes, they're nuts.
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Speaker 1: They're nuts on the other end.
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Speaker 1: And is that was this, this group, the coalition for responsible home education?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about that, they're the ones wait wait, wait, wait.
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Speaker 2: Say the name again, because because I think I have it here in front of me.
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Speaker 2: If you don't have it right in front of me, I got it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, read the name again, because because I think.
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Speaker 1: I have it here in front of me.
11:05
Speaker 1: If you don't have it right in front of me, I got it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, read the name, because when you sound, when you hear the name, you think well, yeah, that makes sense.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's the coalition for responsible home education.
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Speaker 2: It was a Massachusetts organization Must make sense, right and so it's, and, of course, it's these people.
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Speaker 1: I think there were four people that started up katherine brighthill, rachel coleman, heather doney and kieran darkwater and ryan five.
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Speaker 1: Ryan stoller started this, I think.
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Speaker 1: I think of the original founders, kieran darkwater is the only one that's still part of the original group, or I'm not sure if that person Well, karen is a woman who identifies as a man that she calls herself a trans boy.
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Speaker 2: B-O-I.
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Speaker 2: For some reason B-O-I yeah trans boy.
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Speaker 2: And Wait, let me just finish who believes that non-binary, queer gender, gender fluid agender, et cetera, are all valid trans identities, and this is why they want to make responsible home education fit into the line with this, because if you don't push this ideology, then you're being abusive to your kids, tom.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 1: If you don't acknowledge that this kind of lifestyle is normal, is part of the normal range of human sexuality, then you are a parent that's abusing your children and failing to educate them properly.
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Speaker 2: So, tom, talk about that a little bit, because when they're talking about child abuse, they're not just talking about child sexual abuse, like we would think.
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Speaker 2: They're talking about this kind of abuse.
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Speaker 1: Right they're talking about.
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Speaker 1: It is abusive to teach a child what normal sexuality is, what we consider normal sexuality, and this, what Kieran Darkwater exhibits, is not what I consider to be normal sexuality, okay.
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Speaker 1: And so the vast majority of people will not raise their children to say, hey, this is, this is the way.
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Speaker 1: This is an option for you to consider.
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Speaker 1: You know, you don't necessarily have to be a man or a woman.
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Speaker 1: You can be a non-binary, you can be a.
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Speaker 1: You know, you can be a.
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Speaker 1: What do they call that?
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Speaker 2: An earth lover or something I don't know who spirits and earth, all these kind of, all these ridiculous things.
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Speaker 1: They actually in the in the national sex ed standards.
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Speaker 1: They they actually are teaching children beginning in sixth, eighth grade that pansexual and two-spirit are legitimate, normal expressions of a person's sexuality.
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Speaker 2: So why do they do this?
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Speaker 2: And look, this is right in their literature, right?
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Speaker 2: Right, it is to get the children while they're in the age of innocence, because they know at that point it's the easiest to malform them to defile their innocence.
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Speaker 1: Because they're so willing to.
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Speaker 1: They will listen to an adult, to somebody that is in a position of authority.
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Speaker 1: They believe them because they actually believe that all these adults, all these people that know more than they are, have their best interests at heart, their best interests in art.
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Speaker 2: And so this undermines when the child gets home now and their ideologue Christian parents teach them that we're created male and female and it takes a mom and a dad to not only to procreate and have a child but to educate a child properly.
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Speaker 2: That that's wrong and what they're doing is, of course, driving a wedge between the parent and the child.
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Speaker 2: And again, this is this breakdown.
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Speaker 2: This is that queer gender or the queering of our culture.
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Speaker 2: The queering of our culture simply means, to reiterate what you just said, a flipping around of everything that we know that be true, good and beautiful, everything since the foundation of history.
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Speaker 2: This is the first time in human history that we have decided that it doesn't take a man and a woman anymore to procreate, even though it's still true, we still know it's true, but the illusion is it doesn't take that right.
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Speaker 2: It could be anything.
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Speaker 2: Marriage is meaningless and the child is meaningless.
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Speaker 2: You can destroy the child if you don't want them.
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Speaker 2: If you do want them and you're not in a man-woman relationship, say it's two men, I can artificially when I say artificial, like an IVF, to take a sperm and an egg, put it together, implant it in a surrogate.
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Speaker 2: As soon as that baby is born, take it out of the mother's womb, give it to two men, and this is the.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how much more degrading can that be for a child to be stripped the day one from its mother's womb, taken and putting on a hairy chest of some some strange guy that has nothing to do with that child, tom and, and you know, it makes it, makes me think that this can't be true, this can't be real, and even, and even at Pete Buttigieg he had that.
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Speaker 1: You know, he had those strap on breasts that the he was breast was proudly displaying.
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Speaker 2: Chest feeding, they call it.
16:26
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Chest feeding.
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Speaker 1: He proudly had that picture taken with those.
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Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable how deranged some of these people are.
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Speaker 2: And think about the Biden administration.
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Speaker 2: Not only put him in charge of transportation, he took Richard Levine right.
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Speaker 2: Who was Rachel Levine?
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Speaker 2: Who thought it was you know, who put on a dress, actually was married with three children, and and and moved him who thought it was a her, to be the top of our mental health standards for our whole country and push these gender affirming care.
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Speaker 1: Well, and he said, he said many times and he promoted the idea many times that that gender affirming care was the accepted method of treating transgenders, that there was and it absolutely is not.
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Speaker 1: It's not.
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Speaker 1: It's not a universally accepted thing, it's not even predominantly accepted, not even predominantly accepted.
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Speaker 2: Tom, if you can accept that a little boy can become a little girl.
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Speaker 2: Jordan Peter said you just swallow the camel.
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Speaker 2: And he said there will be no other camel that's hard to get down.
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Speaker 2: After that, they got you.
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Speaker 2: If you will go along with that lie, which is just the most blatant lie in the history of mankind, then you'll go along with any lie, and that's exactly where we're at today.
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Speaker 1: Well, and it not just doesn't just apply to that.
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Speaker 1: The lies are going everywhere.
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Speaker 1: I mean, waltz is repeated more than once now, for example, that Elon Musk is is a South African Nepo.
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Speaker 1: Babypo, baby, south african nepo what?
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Speaker 2: you know, explain that.
18:06
Speaker 2: What does that?
18:07
Speaker 1: mean a nepo.
18:08
Speaker 1: Baby means means he's, he's gotten his.
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Speaker 1: He's a he's gotten his achievements because of his family connections.
18:16
Speaker 1: Well, it could, it has, absolutely.
18:18
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: He didn didn't get.
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Speaker 1: Any of his successes has been unrelated to his family.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're promoting this, making it sound like he had a leg up on everybody and the only reason why he's been successful is because of that, when in fact, he's probably one of the greatest innovators since edison in the us well, maybe the greatest innovator in the history of man, really I mean yes you know, whatever else you think about him, he, he was incredible and yet.
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Speaker 2: Yet they're attacking him right being for nothing more than again exposing the lies right, corruption, the, the amazing waste of our government yeah you can't really make this up, even though you and I've been talking about this for years, tom, and I think well, I had no idea it was as bad as it is.
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Speaker 1: I would never have thought that they would spend two a billion dollars on a ten thousand dollar survey.
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Speaker 1: I think, man, my first thought is who got got that money?
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Speaker 1: And I want to put him in jail.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and hopefully we start to do that.
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Speaker 2: But I think the main reason to be talking about homeschooling and stuff, you see again, just another vicious attack on taking away a parent's rights and thinking that the state, this corrupt, wasteful, power lust-driven state, is going to raise your kids.
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Speaker 2: You know, this is what this lady says.
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Speaker 2: Now, Tom, this is a Harvard Law School professor.
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Speaker 2: Right, she says that they also mandate the homeschooling curriculum provides an education equivalent to our public school education, education equivalent to our public school education, and they think it's teaching about the fundamental values of our society.
20:08
Speaker 2: But it's not, of course.
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Speaker 2: Right, she says.
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Speaker 2: So here's the point.
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Speaker 2: She's saying that this homeschooling curriculum needs to make sure, we need to make sure that they have an education equivalent to our public education.
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Speaker 1: Now, our public education is failing, it's so far inferior, tom, if you tell me as a parent that my homeschooling has to be raised to the standard of public school education, which is failing Right.
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Speaker 2: How do you say this?
20:41
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you say this with a straight face, Tom?
20:44
Speaker 2: I'm serious.
20:46
Speaker 2: How do?
20:47
Speaker 1: you say this with a straight face.
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Speaker 1: Homeschooled children are the highest performers of any group of children that are educated, whether they're public school or private school.
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Speaker 1: Homeschooled children are far more academically successful in general than any of these other groups.
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Speaker 1: Additionally, the other thing that they were talking about is that they needed to make sure that these kids needed state supervision, to make sure the kids had eyes on them by someone who was a mandated reporter, because too many kids are being abused and sexually abused in the home.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is another absurdity, because the problem of children being sexually abused is far greater in the public schools than any place else.
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Speaker 1: That between 10 and 12% of children in public schools are victims of educator sexual misconduct, so they become sexually exploited by an adult in the school system.
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Speaker 1: That doesn't even include the number of children who are sexually exploited by other children, which is exploding.
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Speaker 1: Because of this perverted comprehensive sexual education curricula that's being adopted by so many schools around the country.
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Speaker 1: Children are being taught that they have a right to experience sexual pleasure whenever and with whomever they want, and that the only thing that they need to be concerned about is consent.
22:26
Speaker 1: So if you give consent, then it's okay.
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Speaker 1: Well, that basically tells the children that, hey, this is something that we should be experimenting with, this is something that we should be doing, and the only thing I need to, the thing that I need to do, is just say yes or no.
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Speaker 1: If I say yes, it's okay.
22:43
Speaker 1: If I say no, it's not okay.
22:44
Speaker 1: Well, the problem is that children in Illinois and in all over the country, children don't have a right.
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Speaker 1: They have no ability to give consent.
22:55
Speaker 1: There's no legal ability to give consent.
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Speaker 1: They don't have.
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Speaker 2: But even beyond the legal Tom, I mean does a 10-year-old kid understand if he's being groomed and desensitized what he's consenting to?
23:07
Speaker 2: Of course not, you know.
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Speaker 2: So it's not just a legal issue.
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Speaker 2: This is a, this is a personal.
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Speaker 2: You know, this is a kid that's just entering into puberty.
23:15
Speaker 2: He has no idea what you're talking about right, and so they're.
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Speaker 1: All they're doing is they're, they're they are.
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Speaker 1: They don't have the ability to make rational decisions, which is why children can't give consent, and so that consent applies to adults, who are predators that are going after them, and it also applies to children who are predators that wind up going after younger children or less sophisticated children, and this is happening at a greater rate than used to.
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Speaker 1: I think it was something like 35% of the kids that were sexually abused in their lifetime when they were young, I mean before they reached the age of majority 35% of them were sexually abused by another child.
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Speaker 1: Well, that percentage is increasing vastly.
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Speaker 1: There was a study in overseas, in Europe, which I think is a warning to the S, that it was as many as 75% of the kids who were sexually abused were abused by another, by another child, and that's because of this hyper-sexualized culture that we're creating all over the world.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and, and you know what, what she says here.
24:37
Speaker 2: And don't forget when, when they say a child is being maltreated, you know it.
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Speaker 2: In homeschooling, again, it's not just sexual abuse.
24:45
Speaker 2: I mean, there is sexual abuse happening in families.
24:48
Speaker 2: I mean whether these kids go to public school or not.
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Speaker 2: If it's going to happen, it's happening in their home, even if they're being sent to the public schools, and then they have another chance of compounding that vastly in the public school system.
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Speaker 1: You haven't lowered their chance, you've raised their chance of being sexually exploited.
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Speaker 2: And so these are the craziness.
25:11
Speaker 2: I mean this brokenness in our culture.
25:13
Speaker 2: Now what she says is that we have to become like other countries.
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Speaker 2: This is the same thing you hear with the national sex ed standards.
25:21
Speaker 2: You know, we have that woman from Youth Advocacy who helped write the National Sex Ed Standards.
25:27
Speaker 2: That said, we have to look to Germany, right?
25:29
Speaker 1: Right.
25:30
Speaker 2: And because they don't look at it as a moral thing, they're surprised if their kids aren't sexualizing this kind of stuff.
25:36
Speaker 2: Well, they're totally in decline and broken.
25:38
Speaker 2: Right Now.
25:39
Speaker 2: She says this about the homeschool these countries like Germany effectively ban homeschool.
25:44
Speaker 2: These countries like germany effectively ban homeschooling altogether.
25:46
Speaker 2: In the us, there's essentially no effective regulation.
25:49
Speaker 2: What she's saying we have to become like germany.
25:52
Speaker 2: What you're seeing in germany right now, it's a total breakdown of the culture, total breakdown and decline of the whole country, and what you're seeing is a violent, a censorship and attack on individual human rights, and so you have a state takeover of everything there.
26:09
Speaker 2: Well, that's not just Germany, that's in England too.
26:12
Speaker 1: Yes.
26:13
Speaker 2: Yes, but she specifically says Germany in her report.
26:16
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's all over Europe right Now.
26:19
Speaker 2: We're supposed to be like them.
26:21
Speaker 2: And to these crazy neo-Marxists, that's exactly right, we have to become like them.
26:28
Speaker 2: So we shut down these ideologue Christian that have the preposterous Tom.
26:34
Speaker 2: They're trying to pass down Christian values and the beauty of sexuality, the beauty of marriage and the family to their children.
26:44
Speaker 2: How dear them.
26:45
Speaker 1: Well, these people that are promoting the model Homeschool Act actually believe that abuse is defined as, in addition to all these other things, is defined as speaking out against things like two-spirit and pansexual and CRT and DEI and all that stuff that that is abusive to the child, that they're not being properly educated and so the state has to step in and make sure that they get this education that they need.
27:22
Speaker 2: Here's another one from the law professor.
27:23
Speaker 2: This is a law professor teaching right, and we wonder why we have so many lawyers now coming in here that have no idea.
27:32
Speaker 2: They're just activists too.
27:34
Speaker 2: But she says this the children raised in these homeschooling Christian homes, these children, may not have the chance to choose for themselves whether to exit these ideological communities.
27:46
Speaker 2: Society may not have the chance to teach them then the values important to this larger community, such as tolerance of other people's views and values.
27:58
Speaker 2: Now tolerance While she's condemning and saying it's intolerant for these Christian families, she's saying we have to be tolerant, tom, you can't make this stuff up.
28:11
Speaker 2: I'm tolerant, except for you, because you're not saying the same thing.
28:16
Speaker 2: I'm saying If you say the same thing I say, then this is tolerance.
28:21
Speaker 2: If you don't, this is intolerable.
28:25
Speaker 1: Well, she is a living example of how useless a PhD is.
28:28
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, that title means nothing.
28:32
Speaker 1: When you see people like her get a PhD, then you know that there must be no standard.
28:36
Speaker 2: Well now, this one's a lawyer, right?
28:39
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought she was a PhD.
28:43
Speaker 2: No, she's a Harvard law professor, Now PhD in education.
28:49
Speaker 1: Well, she's a JD, then a Juris Doctor, which makes it also useless.
28:53
Speaker 2: PhD in education means psychological head disorder.
28:57
Speaker 1: I mean.
28:57
Speaker 2: let's face it, that's what it means.
28:58
Speaker 2: Okay, so now what do we have to be tolerant of?
29:01
Speaker 2: Let's analyze this Abortion, trans-affirming care, striking down anything that we don't believe in rendering marriage meaningless, taking God out, using law to control and force everybody in line, promote CRT, critical race theory, critical gender theory, and I can go on and on.
29:27
Speaker 2: What's the diversity in DEI right?
29:30
Speaker 2: Diversity is diversity meaning there is no moral values, tom.
29:35
Speaker 2: Diversity means you throw out objective moral truth, because diversity means you think anything.
29:40
Speaker 2: It's my opinion and your opinion.
29:42
Speaker 1: There is no-.
29:43
Speaker 1: No, it's not opinion anymore, it's truth.
29:44
Speaker 1: It's your truth or my truth.
29:46
Speaker 1: They don't even look at it as an opinion.
29:50
Speaker 2: There is no standard of truth which is an opinion, then Right, but of course opinion, then Right, but of course you're right.
29:57
Speaker 2: They don't call it opinion, that's right.
29:58
Speaker 2: They call it your truth and my truth.
30:01
Speaker 2: Well, this is the total collapse of civilization as we know it, and anybody that has any common sense, any decency about them, knows that when you deconstruct a civilized society based on objective truth, based on, especially, the United States, the United States, the founding fathers, did something astounding that no other country in history did, which flipped this power that we're talking about, this power grab on its head and said we have to be governed by the people, but the people have to be a moral and religious people.
30:35
Speaker 2: The people this is from John Adams, madison pirated that and added we have to be a virtuous people, otherwise the Republic will not stand.
30:44
Speaker 2: Well, they know this.
30:45
Speaker 2: This is the querying right, flipping it back on its head so that the world elites are here, the rest of the people are down here, in this collective called socialism, marxism, where everybody is just gray down here.
30:58
Speaker 2: And of course, we're going to control them up here, tom.
31:02
Speaker 2: This is the city of man versus the city of God at the end.
31:06
Speaker 1: A virtuous culture is a prerequisite to having any kind of civilization.
31:12
Speaker 1: Without virtue being predominant in your culture, the civilization is going to collapse and we are seeing that happening right in front of us.
31:21
Speaker 1: Look at these leftists that are out there burning down Tesla stations, burning Teslas.
31:28
Speaker 1: They even burned a Republican headquarters in Albuquerque and everybody think it's great.
31:34
Speaker 1: The you know a republican headquarters in albuquerque and everybody think it's great.
31:36
Speaker 1: The 70 year old guy ran down a counter protester at the tesla rally.
31:39
Speaker 1: 70 70 year old tesla protester, drove his car into the guy, into a guy you can't believe the people that are keying and destroying these teslas.
31:52
Speaker 2: When you see these people keying on video.
31:54
Speaker 2: They're older people, you can't make this up.
32:00
Speaker 2: These are people like you said 60s, 70s, late 50s.
32:04
Speaker 2: What are these people gaining by keying a Tesla?
32:08
Speaker 2: Are they so demented, tom and I'm serious here I mean, what takes a 60, 70-year-old guy to get out of his car and key a Tesla?
32:17
Speaker 2: I mean, does he make money for doing that?
32:19
Speaker 2: You know what, tom?
32:21
Speaker 2: Bishop Fulton Sheen, this great bishop.
32:24
Speaker 2: We had that when I grew up had the number one rated television show, believe it or not.
32:28
Speaker 2: When I grew up.
32:29
Speaker 2: He said when you become atheist, he said you become irrational because your reason is no longer reasonable, right, so our reason becomes unreasonable, unhinged.
32:38
Speaker 2: And he said that what happens is you get so bundled up inside.
32:42
Speaker 2: You have no way to express this except through anger and violence.
32:45
Speaker 2: And he said the civilization breaks down, it becomes violent.
32:49
Speaker 2: He said this in the 70s.
32:50
Speaker 2: He said this is already happening and he said it's only going to get worse.
32:54
Speaker 2: And so that's where we're at today.
32:55
Speaker 2: The violence—.
32:57
Speaker 1: Well, and you see it all around, where there's no— there's just indifference to a lot of the things that are going on too, and I think that's also a characteristic of the loss of virtue, because if you are indifferent to injustices, then there's something seriously wrong with you.
33:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, and on that point, just to make an example, john Paul II, in 1976, was here in Philadelphia for the bicentennial celebration of our nation and he said so that was in 76.
33:27
Speaker 2: In 73, v Roe versus Wade came in right.
33:30
Speaker 2: So this is the right to kill our own children.
33:33
Speaker 2: He said that this was going to have drastic consequences going forward on our nation because it was a blight on our nation.
33:40
Speaker 2: To your point, tom, once a people can subscribe to and accept the killing of their own children, something has happened to that civilization.
33:52
Speaker 2: In 2015, we had that ruling come down from the Supreme Court that rendered marriage meaningless.
33:58
Speaker 2: Right it could be between two men, two women, whatever it was right.
34:02
Speaker 2: This is a further breakdown of this.
34:05
Speaker 2: So what we're seeing is going down and down, and then this gets down to the founding fathers.
34:11
Speaker 2: Let me just read, tom, I've done this before with you, I know, but this is the Declaration of Independence.
34:20
Speaker 2: We hold these truths to be self-evident.
34:21
Speaker 2: Right that men are created equal, and I'm going to skip a little bit.
34:23
Speaker 2: Right, this is the pursuit we have of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
34:27
Speaker 2: And here's what's going on today that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the government, from the people, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute a new government.
34:47
Speaker 2: This is basically what Trump sees and what we voted for, tom.
34:52
Speaker 2: We voted to say the government is out of touch, it's out of hand, it's corrupt, it's wasteful and I'm not talking about every single government employee, right?
35:03
Speaker 2: I mean there are good people in government.
35:05
Speaker 2: We all know this.
35:06
Speaker 2: In fact, elon Musk was on live last night and the one guy that exposed all this stuff in Social Security fraud said that much of this fraud was pointed out by good people working within the social security right.
35:19
Speaker 2: Yes, you said they're there, but he said, unfortunately, that the heads of this stuff.
35:24
Speaker 2: We're pushing them to just keep all these things quiet and lie about don't do anything about it, don't do anything about it.
35:30
Speaker 2: so what we see is that this government cannot stand like it is right now.
35:35
Speaker 2: It's imploding in front of us, financially, economically, morally we are there and Musk makes this point that if we fail, the rest of the world probably will fail.
35:48
Speaker 2: Certainly, Western civilization will come down.
35:49
Speaker 2: We're the only pillar still kind of standing up right now and we have a chance here, Tom, but we're going to have to figure out what's right and what's wrong and start to live properly.
36:03
Speaker 1: Well, I think one of the problems is that churches have failed to uphold their responsibility to be moral leaders in the country I used this as an example before where there was in 2021, in December 2021, there was a law that was passed in Illinois that removed the requirement for any child to get an abortion any child 13 and over to get an abortion without parental consent and without the approval of a court or some guardian.
36:36
Speaker 1: That took effect in June of 2022.
36:41
Speaker 1: In other words, today, any 13-year-old can go into any Planned Parenthood facility and get an abortion without the approval of any adult, just on their own.
36:53
Speaker 1: They can go in and get an abortion without the approval of any adult, just on their own.
36:55
Speaker 1: They can go in and get an abortion.
36:56
Speaker 1: Now, when that law was passed, how many people heard about it?
37:01
Speaker 1: How many people heard about it from the pulpit of their church?
37:06
Speaker 1: I have yet to meet anyone that heard about it at church.
37:10
Speaker 1: Why wasn't every church in the country standing up and saying this is wrong?
37:17
Speaker 1: Even if you believe that abortion is okay, even if you are a pro-choice person, how could you possibly think it's okay for a 13-year-old to make that decision and to go through that alone?
37:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and one of the reasons for that, of course, is they want to cover up the actual perpetrator of that whoever sexually abused that girl exactly is being covered up you know, because that girl could not legally give consent to anybody.
37:50
Speaker 1: And so, and there, and there's nothing.
37:52
Speaker 1: Therefore, there's no investigation, there's's no follow-up, there's no ability to catch the predator that's responsible for impregnating the girl.
38:00
Speaker 1: And so why was the church silent?
38:06
Speaker 2: Did you hear it in your church.
38:08
Speaker 2: Well, I did, you know, I did hear it, you know, in my church, but I happen to have a very good priest pastor in mind.
38:16
Speaker 2: But you're right, I mean, it's certainly not in every single—again, I'm Catholic, but it's not in every single Catholic church.
38:22
Speaker 2: Let me just read you, tom, catholic teaching on this, on educating your own children, and to your point, they don't all stand up in the pulpit and say this.
38:32
Speaker 2: If they did, though, this is exactly Catholic teaching on this, and you're right, they're not standing and they don't have the courage or the guts or the faith.
38:41
Speaker 2: You know, the pastors that we're talking about here, tom, for whatever reason, are very wishy-washy in their faith.
38:47
Speaker 2: If they actually had a deep faith in Christianity, if they actually had Jesus Christ in their heart, they could stand up, but if they don't, tom, they just become another frog in a proverbial pot.
39:00
Speaker 2: Who have accepted this and normalized the fall.
39:03
Speaker 2: But here's what they and, as we wind down here, tom, here's what our actual teaching is.
39:08
Speaker 2: Parents are the first and most important educators of their own children, and they also possess a fundamental competence in this area.
39:18
Speaker 2: They are educators and they are qualified because they are parents.
39:23
Speaker 2: In other words, parents know how to instill certain values and morals, if they, of course, have been given them themselves.
39:31
Speaker 2: It goes on to say this whenever the state lays claims to an educational monopoly, it oversteps its rights and offends justice.
39:40
Speaker 2: It's parents who have the right to choose the school to which they send their children and the right to set up and support educational centers in accordance with their own beliefs.
39:50
Speaker 2: The state cannot, without injustice, merely tolerate so-called private schools.
39:55
Speaker 2: Such schools render a public service and therefore have a right to financial assistance.
40:01
Speaker 2: And this gets us into the amount of taxes that are taken from our property taxes, etc.
40:06
Speaker 2: What the Catholic Church would teach is to say that's an injustice, that that money needs to be appropriated to where the parents think it should go and to be used to assist those parents.
40:17
Speaker 2: You know, these homeschooling parents don't have it easy, tom.
40:21
Speaker 2: They're paying their taxes for the schools they're not using, and then they have to additionally take time and money to homeschool those kids.
40:30
Speaker 1: So this is not easy.
40:31
Speaker 2: This is not what we're talking about, and they're still being attacked.
40:34
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, kids.
40:34
Speaker 1: So this is not easy.
40:35
Speaker 1: This is not what we're talking about.
40:36
Speaker 1: It's not.
40:36
Speaker 1: And they're still being attacked, right, yeah, it's yeah.
40:38
Speaker 1: That that's I, I.
40:39
Speaker 1: I think that the money should follow the child.
40:41
Speaker 1: It should follow and and the the supreme court agrees that that show that parents have a right to direct the education of their own children, and that's something, something.
40:52
Speaker 1: If they don't continue to uphold that, I think we're going to be in real trouble.
40:57
Speaker 1: Here.
40:57
Speaker 1: We are going to go the route of Germany and some of these other countries where homeschooling is illegal.
41:03
Speaker 2: You know.
41:04
Speaker 2: The last point I'll make, you know, is to talk about the extortion of money.
41:08
Speaker 2: These school superintendents across the country.
41:12
Speaker 2: You know that they're making three $400,000, tom a year each one of them, and that's not bad enough to spend that much money on a school superintendent, right, and here's my point in a failing system.
41:26
Speaker 2: Now, if we were the number one in the world for education, they get paid a lot of money.
41:33
Speaker 2: We are a failure.
41:35
Speaker 2: We're paying them that much money to fail us.
41:37
Speaker 2: Now they should be getting fired, not given this money.
41:40
Speaker 2: But here's the thing that salary Tom follows them out the door.
41:44
Speaker 2: As a pension, that money gets paid every year.
41:49
Speaker 2: Can you imagine getting a pension of $385,000 a year?
41:53
Speaker 2: And you can retire when you're 55, 56 years old, tom?
41:57
Speaker 2: I mean, you have 30, 40 years of making $385,000 a year.
42:02
Speaker 2: It's insanity.
42:05
Speaker 2: And this is why they don't want homeschooling.
42:08
Speaker 2: This is why they do not want us pulling our kids out of this education because they're so bankrupt and the pension plans are so underfunded.
42:16
Speaker 2: They know that if more parents come out of the system and demand their money back right, demand school choice, that this whole pyramid scheme is going to collapse.
42:27
Speaker 2: And this is what we're seeing in the state of Illinois.
42:31
Speaker 2: We're so in debt, Tom it's unbelievable.
42:32
Speaker 1: Illinois is actually the worst 172 billion in under unfunded pensions.
42:38
Speaker 2: So how does this stand?
42:39
Speaker 2: It's impossible, thomas.
42:41
Speaker 2: We're going to have to pick this up at another time.
42:43
Speaker 2: All right, hey, thank you so much.
42:45
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time.
42:46
Speaker 2: Thanks for letting me vent a little bit.
42:47
Speaker 2: Man, I feel a little better.
42:48
Speaker 2: Huh, how about you?
42:50
Speaker 1: Me too yeah.
42:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, stand up for the homeschoolers, huh.