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Josh is BACK! Reacts to His FIRST Episode (Ep 43) + Used TJ Buying Guide · Jeep Talk Show

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  (upbeat music)
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  All right, Josh, as I
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  like to say, we're back.
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  Do you feel like you're back?
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  I mean, do you feel like a back?
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  I can tell you my back
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  feels older than I really am,
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  but yeah, sure.
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  You got one of those-
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  It's good to be back in the seat.
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  You got one of those
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  little, those bead things
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  that go on the back of the seat.
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  I mean, it rubs your back.
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  Oh, like the New York
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  taxi drivers all have.
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  Yeah, no, I don't have one of those, so.
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  All right, well, I've
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  been saying this more
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  and more here recently.
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  We're gonna try
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  something a little different.
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  I went back to the
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  Jeep Talk Show archives,
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  and I think I mentioned to you,
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  I've been remastering
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  the original episodes.
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  I think it's one
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  through 43 has been remastered
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  and put out on our YouTube channel.
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  And of course they've been
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  there for audio for a while.
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  There was one that the
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  audio level was really low.
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  I think it was like
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  episode two or something.
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  So it was probably before
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  we started doing compression
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  and all kinds of wild stuff.
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  So I actually updated the audio.
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  Well, you were still
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  figuring things out back then.
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  Yes, that was my excuse.
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  So I thought it would be
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  fun to go to episode 43,
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  which Grock actually
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  researched and told me
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  that was the first
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  episode that you were on.
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  I know you and I have gone back and forth
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  about what your first episode was.
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  Oh God.
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  So episode 44 was an interview.
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  Yeah, I knew it was
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  somewhere right around there.
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  Yeah, episode 44 was an
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  interview that I did with you.
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  And all that was seeing if, number one,
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  if you were really
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  interested in being on the show
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  and number two, if you were worth a shit.
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  Because just because always says,
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  "Yeah, I'd like to be on the show,"
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  doesn't mean they're
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  gonna be a good match.
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  So, and I said it before,
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  first one to respond
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  about being on the show.
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  And I still think that everybody else is
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  great and everything.
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  But I think that just
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  the chemistry between us
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  on the show has been the best so far.
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  No, honestly, Tony, looking back,
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  I kind of remember that
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  first interview vaguely,
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  because that was over a decade ago now.
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  Man, things were a
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  lot different back then.
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  Of course, I was in a different career.
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  My equipment setup was different.
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  But I remember I didn't
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  have a studio back then.
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  I was still DJing part time on the side
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  and stuff like that.
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  And I remember
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  hodgepodgeing some of my gear together
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  to record something in the home office
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  that we had set up at the time.
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  Totally different nowadays.
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  But yeah, trying to set up
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  some degree of sound dampening
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  and trying to get the
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  audio to sound like,
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  "Okay, I'm not talking in
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  a closet type of sound."
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  But yeah, and just
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  listening to a little bit of snippet
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  off the air, as you and I were kind of
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  setting up for today,
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  good God, man, I sounded completely
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  different back then.
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  And maybe it was just the mic.
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  Obviously it was 10,
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  12 years ago or better
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  and things changed, but man,
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  that was a lot of water under the bridge
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  and things are definitely
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  different now, aren't they?
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  Well, you're apologizing
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  ahead of time for the audio.
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  I know what you're doing.
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  I know you well enough.
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  All right, let's, now this
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  is, you're not in this clip.
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  This is probably my
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  favorite clip of the day.
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  This is just me talking.
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  So I wanna play the first clip
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  of the episode, episode 43 starting.
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  And actually what we're gonna have today
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  is we're gonna start off with a question
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  that somebody called in to our voicemail.
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  It's been a long time since
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  we've had a question called in
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  like that and it's great.
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  It was a nice surprise for me.
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  And I wanna encourage all you guys
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  to call in your questions
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  and have them on the show.
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  So this is a common thing
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  that we've had over the years
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  that we have had
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  people call in voicemails.
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  I was actually digging
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  around some old stuff
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  and I found the voicemail vault.
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  I may be sticking these
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  things in future episodes.
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  And so we used to get
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  voicemails, but it's very--
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  Oh, that's fantastic.
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  Yeah, it's very unusual
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  to have people call in.
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  I mean, I think that
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  that's a very difficult thing.
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  You have to have a very popular podcast,
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  very popular show, I think,
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  for people to take the time to call in.
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  But in this one, this
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  episode, episode 43,
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  you can watch it over
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  on YouTube right now.
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  It was a question from a user
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  and you were the one that answered it.
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  Hi, this is Josh, Northwest 99.
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  Oh, I'll be darned. On the forum.
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  Bob, especially in Moab, Utah,
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  if you're gonna be doing any sort of
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  off-roading and whatnot,
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  the uni-platly is-- Platly, I love that.
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  You use Platly not all the time.
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  By being reinforced.
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  You're gonna see a lot of improvements
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  in on-road handling, as well as
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  performance off-road.
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  The Jeep Cherokee unibody,
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  especially the two doors.
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  I don't know if you have
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  a two door or a four door.
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  You need to project your voice, Josh.
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  Get out there and belt it out.
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  The unibody not having
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  a true dedicated frame
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  likes to twist and
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  flex as you go off-road
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  with the suspension
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  pushing back up on the body
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  and as you go on
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  uneven terrain, especially--
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  Good information then,
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  good information now.
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  Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
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  Yeah, a lot of, because a lot of people
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  aren't really wheeling
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  the unibodies much anymore.
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  The XJ is obviously
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  hasn't been in production
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  in over 20 years and is
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  probably not a common vehicle
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  that you would see out on
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  the trails as much as you would
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  10 or 15 years ago.
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  That being said, it's
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  still a viable platform
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  and yeah, people are still building it.
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  And yes, there is still plenty of
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  aftermarket support for it.
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  And my God, Tony, did you sound young?
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  You sounded completely
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  different in that clip
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  than you do today, holy
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  (beep)
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  At first for a second
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  there, I thought it was me
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  that was talking about like, oh wait, no,
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  those are his inflections.
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  Yep, that's Tony, I'll be darned.
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  Yeah, so I chuckled
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  whenever I was making these clips
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  because of the whatnot.
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  You used, I need to find
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  a way that I can go back
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  and have AI search all the episodes
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  and count the number of
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  times you said whatnot.
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  Oh God.
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  That's a Josh word.
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  No, no, no.
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  Well, in Latin and a Botten, I mean,
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  (beep)
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  I think we made a
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  drinking game out of Botten.
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  Yeah, that was another made up Josh word.
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  Yeah, my English and, oh yeah, no,
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  I come up with all my own words of
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  vocabulary all the time.
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  So, oh, that's good times.
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  So how did you think you sounded?
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  Did that bother you because it's like,
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  you didn't have any of the compression
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  or any of the stuff that you do?
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  I know you're a big audio nut.
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  No, it wasn't.
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  Is it hard for you to listen to that?
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  It wasn't necessarily
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  the lack of processing
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  or anything like that.
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  I mean, yes, now in my studio,
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  I've got a compressor
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  limiter gate system.
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  It runs through a tube
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  amplifier, all that stuff.
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  It kind of warms things up a little bit
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  and whatnot, definitely a different sound
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  than a Bluetooth headset,
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  like I'm talking on now.
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  And of course, back
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  then during that interview,
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  I was on an omni-directional, just
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  standard microphone.
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  And now I've got a
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  condenser microphone in the studio,
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  much higher end gear, a
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  lot better audio quality
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  and stuff like that.
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  But I had designed the studio for that
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  when I retired from DJing in 2016.
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  So it was sort of purpose built.
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  And back then I was
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  just using gear that I use
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  when I was DJing, doing mobile gigs
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  and doing announcing and stuff like that.
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  So definitely
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  different purpose built gear.
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  All right, let's jump
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  over to our next clip.
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  But I was driving
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  home one day and it was,
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  I'd done the repair,
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  the Slippial Columinator,
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  the night before, went
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  to work the next day,
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  driving home and I'm
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  noticing this giant mist of smoke
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  and spray behind me as I'm
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  driving down the freeway.
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  What the heck is that?
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  (laughing)
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  The memories come back.
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  I've blown something in the
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  engine or something like that
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  and I climb underneath
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  and the entire undercarriage
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  just absolutely coated in transmission
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  for, you know, in the
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  transfer case fluid.
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  Yeah, and it's from
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  the transfer case back,
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  which is a good sign for the motor
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  and the transmission, but a
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  bad sign for the transfer case.
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  (laughing)
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  Jeepers feeling your pain.
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  I didn't lose all that much.
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  Yeah, it's amazing how
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  little transmission fluid,
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  ATF, whatever's in the transfer case.
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  I think that the 231s and the 242s
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  just take the
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  transmission fluid for the T-case.
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  So it's amazing how
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  much mess that you can get
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  out of a little bit
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  of transmission fluid.
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  Yeah, it's like getting a little scratch
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  or something on your forehead
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  and suddenly your face
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  is just covered in blood,
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  you know, because the
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  smallest little tiny hole
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  in the forehead somehow
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  makes you bleed like a stuck pig
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  and it looks like an
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  absolute murder scene.
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  Yeah, same thing when
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  you get a rear seal output,
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  output shaft seal leak
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  on your transfer case.
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  And amazing just a
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  couple of ounces of fluid,
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  how it sprays out,
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  goes down the drive shaft
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  and just completely
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  coats the undercarriage.
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  I had totally forgotten about that
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  incident and everything.
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  And now I'm reliving it
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  as I'm hearing my own voice
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  describe it.
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  And it was like, oh yeah, no,
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  I remember that pucker moment.
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  I remember that and thinking what I was
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  thinking at the time
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  and just, oh God, please make it home.
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  Please make it home, oh geez.
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  Well, you don't know the
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  transfer case is gonna burn up.
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  You know, you don't know, you feel good
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  it's a transfer case,
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  but then again, it's like,
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  do I have enough fluid
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  in there to make it home?
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  Oh yeah, and there's no
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  dipstick for that, you know,
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  of course.
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  And so it's just a
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  matter of, well, you know,
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  either I, and I don't think I was
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  carrying a whole lot
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  of tools with me back then either
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  at that point.
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  And it's one of the
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  things, well, I know I don't have
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  what I need to fix.
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  To fix, I don't have a replacement seal,
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  let alone everything to do that with.
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  And I don't have the
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  means of popping the plugs
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  and putting a finger in the transfer case
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  and seeing if I have
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  any fluid left in there.
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  So all right, let's just rock
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  this until the wheels fall off
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  and let's try and make it home.
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  And that's exactly what happened there.
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  But yeah, wow, I had
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  absolutely forgotten about that
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  until just now, good times.
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  All right, Josh, well fun so far.
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  I really enjoy hearing
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  the audio and going back
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  and remembering the
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  stuff that we've talked about
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  because we've had so many
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  shows together, so many episodes.
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  And this is a great
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  opportunity for the new audience
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  because we've gotten
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  new people, you know,
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  there's been hundreds or
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  thousands of new people
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  that have never heard
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  the original episode.
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  Oh sure, yeah.
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  Chris was talking to
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  a gentleman yesterday,
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  trying to get him
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  lined up for an interview.
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  And he had to tell me that this gentleman
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  was on xjtalk.com
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  before the episode started.
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  And he has listened from episode one.
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  He made it all the way up
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  to the Jerry Huber interview
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  that came out two, three weeks ago.
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  So he says he's a little behind.
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  So this guy has listened to over 14--
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  He's doing pretty good.
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  Oh yeah, absolutely.
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  So it's fun to go back and you never know
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  what you're gonna hear.
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  You never know what
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  comedy you're gonna hear.
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  You never know what
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  information that you may not know.
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  And especially for you people
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  that want more xjtalk stuff,
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  more xjtalktalk, these are perfect
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  because that's all we really talked about
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  on the first episode.
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  So go back to, just go to YouTube,
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  look for episode 43, ep.43,
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  and then have a listen
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  to this full episode.
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  Okay, let's get over
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  to our next clip, Josh.
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  But it's very expensive.
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  I think it was 475 after I sent back
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  all the other parts, the cores.
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  They do require a core.
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  This is the SYE from Tom Woods.
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  Yes, well, it's interesting
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  because I spoke with one of
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  the people there at Tom Woods
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  and he said that you
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  would be really surprised
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  how many people do not send the cores.
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  So they literally are
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  sitting on $400 worth of refund.
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  Yeah, because you'll be out of pocket,
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  about 800 some odd dollars initially,
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  but you get a big chunk of that back
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  sending in the core.
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  You know, I didn't check,
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  but I believe they're
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  still selling the SYEs.
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  And this isn't like the hack and tap.
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  This is a genuine replacement shaft
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  and really doing what I
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  consider the SYE on the,
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  mine was a 242, but they
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  also sell the ones with the 243,
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  but actually having a
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  legitimate SYE modification.
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  Yeah, I believe this was for the 242
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  that we were talking
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  about in context there.
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  So the selectable
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  full-time all wheel drive for that.
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  Yeah, yeah, that was,
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  and I do believe they are
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  still selling that as well.
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  And I have, it's been a little while
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  since I've been on the website,
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  it is still a transfer
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  case that is in vehicles.
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  And I would imagine that
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  Tom Woods still has inventory,
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  but yeah, that's one of those things
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  to where you send
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  them in the output shaft
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  out of your transfer case,
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  they take that in as core
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  and they send you one that has been
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  professionally machined
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  and modified that will then drop back
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  into your transfer case
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  and give you what you need
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  as far as a slip yoke or
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  a mount for a slip yoke.
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  All right, Josh, let's
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  get on to our next Josh clip
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  from episode 43.
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  Again, you can listen
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  or watch this on YouTube.
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  Just go to our YouTube channel,
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  jeeptalkshow.com slash YT is in YouTube
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  and do a search for EP.43.
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  Yeah, because the stock setup, it does,
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  I mean, the stock setup makes it
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  so that the output
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  shaft is essentially hollow
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  going right into the transfer case
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  and your drive line
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  slides in and out of that
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  and you lose that drive line stock.
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  Explaining slip yoke eliminator
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  or how the slip yokes work.
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  You're gonna be
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  leaking fluid all day long
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  and that's not only bad for the engine,
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  but it's also bad for
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  the transfer case rather,
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  it's also bad for the environment.
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  You don't need to be spilling fluid.
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  The environment can suck it, yeah.
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  So with the slip yoke eliminator,
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  it seals that
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  transfer case up button tight
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  and worst case scenario,
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  you do break a drive shaft,
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  you're not gonna be stranded
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  and you're not gonna be leaking fluids.
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  Right, and even if you're
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  not a big environmentalist,
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  I'm not big on the environment,
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  but I am big, I haven't changed rails.
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  Yes, yes.
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  And that's always been my narrative is
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  is that it does get trails closed.
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  It's not a good idea to dump
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  stuff out in the environment,
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  but you know, the earth
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  has been through so much,
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  I don't think our little
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  trail of transmission fluid
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  is gonna make that big of a difference.
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  And I say,
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  collectively, it makes a difference.
• 15:08
  So I'll give you that, but I still say
• 15:11
  we're overly sensitive to
• 15:13
  damaging the environment,
• 15:14
  my opinion.
• 15:18
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 15:19
  I know that certain
• 15:19
  regions are a lot more,
• 15:23
  a lot more sticklers about how and where
• 15:27
  and what and all that sort of stuff.
• 15:29
  And so it's one of those things to where
• 15:33
  maybe you've got
• 15:35
  somebody who's on the trail
• 15:37
  on every single trail system,
• 15:39
  you've got some sort of
• 15:41
  official that's out there
• 15:42
  and they're looking
• 15:43
  for that sort of stuff.
• 15:44
  Not quite as like that out here.
• 15:46
  I mean, yes, I have been talked to before
• 15:49
  about vehicle maintenance and hey,
• 15:52
  it looks like your vehicle's parked here
• 15:54
  and there's a puddle underneath of you.
• 15:55
  Something you can do about that maybe.
• 15:57
  So there's time back.
• 15:58
  That was the last guy
• 15:59
  that was here.
• 15:59
  It was another exchange, not mine.
• 16:03
  Yeah, right, right.
• 16:05
  But this was back when I was president
• 16:08
  of the Northwest chapter of NACSA,
• 16:10
  North American XJ Association.
• 16:12
  And we had a couple individuals
• 16:16
  who had gotten multiple
• 16:18
  talkings to from the people
• 16:21
  up on the trail.
• 16:22
  And we put together spill
• 16:24
  kits for the club members.
• 16:26
  And it was one of those things to where
• 16:28
  it was almost part of the necessary gear.
• 16:31
  If you're gonna come
• 16:31
  wheeling with our group,
• 16:32
  you need to have a spill kit.
• 16:34
  And honestly, it was just
• 16:36
  a couple of the spill pads,
• 16:37
  rubber gloves and some kitty layer.
• 16:39
  Really simple to put
• 16:40
  together, all fit into a gallon bag,
• 16:42
  rolled it up nice and easy,
• 16:44
  fits in just about
• 16:45
  anything anywhere in the Jeep.
• 16:46
  And as we all know, Jeeps
• 16:47
  are a premium for extra space.
• 16:50
  So if you can have something as viable
• 16:52
  and as useful as a spill kit on board
• 16:54
  that doesn't take up much
• 16:55
  more room than a rolled up towel,
• 16:58
  then that's something that
• 16:59
  you should maybe consider
• 17:00
  about having as part of your regular kit.
• 17:04
  So Josh, we haven't done this before
• 17:06
  and I haven't talked to you about it yet.
• 17:07
  So feel free to tell
• 17:09
  me what your opinion is.
• 17:10
  But I was thinking we ought to do a
• 17:11
  little bonus segment
• 17:14
  for our viewers on YouTube.
• 17:18
  So exclusively on--
• 17:20
  I love the bonus content idea.
• 17:22
  The bonus content YouTube.
• 17:23
  So look for that.
• 17:25
  I don't know how it will show up
• 17:28
  because this is just
• 17:29
  something I've been thinking about.
• 17:30
  But I think we should
• 17:31
  talk about spill kits,
• 17:33
  making your own, what
• 17:34
  you put into a spill kit.
• 17:36
  And we'll, the idea,
• 17:39
  we'll see if it happens.
• 17:40
  I think we can make it happen.
• 17:42
  Just look for it after this episode.
• 17:46
  And again, it'll be on YouTube.
• 17:48
  So, and yeah, a
• 17:50
  little bonus content there.
• 17:51
  We may put that on our Patreon as well.
• 17:53
  Yeah, I like that idea.
• 17:55
  All right, so let's
• 17:56
  jump over to our next clip.
• 17:57
  You know, I need to set these things up
• 17:59
  so they change color or something.
• 18:01
  I'm having too much fun talking to you.
• 18:03
  So I think this is the clip.
• 18:05
  Yeah, because the stock setup, it does.
• 18:07
  It is not.
• 18:08
  The stock setup makes it
• 18:09
  so that the output shaft
• 18:12
  is essentially hollow.
• 18:13
  All right, well, that's a,
• 18:14
  okay, now I know where I am.
• 18:15
  So here we go.
• 18:16
  I believe this is the
• 18:17
  first clip where we have Dan
• 18:20
  from the Four by Four podcast
• 18:22
  because episode 43 is
• 18:24
  an interview with Dan.
• 18:25
  And I bet you, I need to
• 18:27
  go check it, but I bet you,
• 18:28
  this is the first
• 18:29
  time we had an interview
• 18:30
  with Dan and I bet it is before
• 18:33
  the Four by Four podcast started.
• 18:35
  First off, Dan, is it hot out there?
• 18:37
  Oh, you know, it's
• 18:37
  actually, it's been a very nice day.
• 18:40
  Today, I think it may have
• 18:41
  just barely broke 90 degrees.
• 18:42
  I don't remember where he is.
• 18:43
  I think he was out
• 18:45
  there in the desert at this-
• 18:46
  Nice hot wind.
• 18:48
  I call that the blow dryer.
• 18:51
  Yeah, it's like sticking your head in
• 18:53
  front of a blow dryer.
• 18:54
  That's really all it is.
• 18:55
  You can't even cool off.
• 18:57
  Now I think it's cooled
• 18:58
  off to about 80 degrees,
• 19:00
  80 degrees, 82, feels nice.
• 19:02
  Well, you know, it's the
• 19:03
  differences that you notice.
• 19:06
  If it's like three
• 19:07
  inches from the surface.
• 19:07
  You know, Josh, I think
• 19:08
  that the Four by Four podcast
• 19:10
  has faded.
• 19:11
  I don't think that
• 19:12
  they're doing any new episodes.
• 19:14
  The website is still up.
• 19:16
  They still got hundreds
• 19:18
  or thousands of episodes
• 19:19
  that you can go and listen to.
• 19:21
  So I recommend going over that.
• 19:23
  It'd be funny if we
• 19:24
  could get a bunch of people
• 19:25
  to go over and check out
• 19:26
  the Four by Four podcast
• 19:28
  and look at it and go, what the hell?
• 19:32
  Where'd all these downloads come from?
• 19:34
  Yeah, just out of the blue.
• 19:35
  Well, there's so much content out there.
• 19:37
  There's so much
• 19:37
  content from the XJ talk show
• 19:39
  and the Jeep talk
• 19:40
  show that people, I mean,
• 19:42
  they love the show, but
• 19:45
  just the idea of going back.
• 19:46
  Sometimes you can't even figure out
• 19:47
  how to go back and listen.
• 19:49
  All right, Josh, so a little more Dan,
• 19:51
  the Four by Four podcast with this clip.
• 19:55
  And as I told you in the email,
• 19:58
  thank you very much for
• 19:58
  your service to the country.
• 20:00
  Dan is in the army.
• 20:02
  My favorite thing was
• 20:04
  when he became a captain,
• 20:05
  because I could call him Captain Dan.
• 20:07
  Or now how they were treated.
• 20:08
  And I'm glad to see
• 20:10
  that both political parties
• 20:12
  are trying to treat our soldiers,
• 20:15
  at least verbally, they're
• 20:17
  trying to treat them right.
• 20:18
  I don't necessarily think
• 20:20
  that cutting military funding
• 20:22
  and stuff is a good
• 20:23
  thing, but there you go.
• 20:24
  Yeah, it is totally my pleasure.
• 20:27
  So that was really cool.
• 20:29
  I always try to thank
• 20:30
  our military personnel
• 20:31
  for their service.
• 20:32
  And Dan has done a lot of it.
• 20:34
  He's done a lot of
• 20:35
  training of troops as well.
• 20:37
  And I just gotta mention that Dan--
• 20:40
  Well Dan is career military.
• 20:41
  Oh, absolutely.
• 20:42
  I just gotta mention
• 20:43
  that Dan sent me a flag
• 20:46
  and a certificate from one of his bases.
• 20:50
  And I think it was Iraq,
• 20:52
  a base in Iraq that had--
• 20:54
  Wow, super cool.
• 20:55
  Had 9-11 debris set up
• 20:59
  next to the flagpole.
• 21:00
  They put that up there
• 21:01
  so that the base commander
• 21:04
  had that there, or maybe it was higher,
• 21:07
  to show the army personnel
• 21:09
  what they were fighting for in Iraq.
• 21:11
  So I have a flag signed
• 21:12
  by the base commander,
• 21:14
  the certificate. Oh, cool.
• 21:15
  That Dan sent that to
• 21:17
  me, and I love that.
• 21:18
  I mean, there's actually an episode,
• 21:20
  I don't remember which one it is,
• 21:21
  but there's actually an episode--
• 21:22
  That is awesome.
• 21:22
  That I talk about that in the show,
• 21:25
  and I tear up because
• 21:26
  it means so much to me.
• 21:28
  It wasn't requested, it was just
• 21:29
  something Dan sent to me.
• 21:30
  I've got it in a nice box, a display case
• 21:34
  with the certificate and the folded flag,
• 21:37
  and it's in my living room.
• 21:39
  So I kinda, I'd kinda like to
• 21:41
  put it in a safe deposit box
• 21:43
  because if there was a fire
• 21:44
  at the house, I'd lose it.
• 21:48
  Yeah, yeah, that's
• 21:49
  something you definitely
• 21:50
  wanna hold onto and keep safe.
• 21:51
  That is one of those keepsakes for sure.
• 21:54
  Josh, I can't remember.
• 21:55
  Did you ever do anything
• 21:58
  with Dan on the 4x4 podcast?
• 22:00
  Were you ever part of
• 22:01
  that show, an interview,
• 22:02
  or anything?
• 22:03
  I thought you were.
• 22:05
  I can't remember.
• 22:06
  I think we did do an interview once,
• 22:08
  but there was one time where Dan and I
• 22:11
  actually got to meet in person.
• 22:13
  He was coming down, I think, from Alaska,
• 22:18
  and he was cutting through
• 22:19
  Oregon on his way to California.
• 22:22
  And he made a small
• 22:25
  detour to make it into my town
• 22:27
  to where we could actually meet up.
• 22:29
  Because at that time,
• 22:31
  we had known each other,
• 22:33
  been talking through the
• 22:34
  podcast for several years.
• 22:36
  And it was one of
• 22:37
  those things where like,
• 22:38
  hey, we kinda have a lot
• 22:39
  of similar build going on
• 22:40
  because his wheeler and
• 22:43
  daily driver was an XJ as well.
• 22:46
  And that's what he was transporting
• 22:47
  and moving his entire family in
• 22:50
  along with an off-road trailer
• 22:51
  that I believe he built from scratch.
• 22:53
  Oh, he did.
• 22:54
  And so, and that was a big part of,
• 22:56
  yeah, that was a part
• 22:57
  of his podcast as well,
• 22:59
  the building of that trailer.
• 23:00
  Very purpose-built,
• 23:03
  intended to not only be a part of his
• 23:07
  wheeling adventures,
• 23:09
  but this was also
• 23:10
  intended to help him move
• 23:11
  from up north down south.
• 23:13
  And so there was a lot of considerations
• 23:15
  that went into that.
• 23:16
  And I think he and I had
• 23:17
  talked a number of times
• 23:19
  throughout that build about some things
• 23:21
  that he wanted to do
• 23:23
  or things to think about
• 23:24
  as he was putting it
• 23:25
  together and whatnot.
• 23:26
  And so it was kinda cool to be
• 23:27
  able to be in person together
• 23:31
  and not only see the fruition of what he
• 23:35
  had built in person,
• 23:37
  but be able to chat and shake hands
• 23:38
  and all that kinda stuff.
• 23:40
  And it's always interesting
• 23:41
  when you get to meet
• 23:43
  somebody face-to-face
• 23:44
  for the first time, but
• 23:45
  you've known them for years.
• 23:47
  Talk to them a hundred times,
• 23:49
  but you've never actually met them.
• 23:51
  And there was something similar that
• 23:52
  happened to you and I
• 23:53
  at the first Chief
• 23:55
  Talk Show event in Texas.
• 23:57
  But yeah, Dan had came
• 23:59
  down with the whole family,
• 24:00
  got to meet him and his
• 24:01
  wife and kid and the dog
• 24:02
  and the whole clan as it were.
• 24:06
  He didn't have a whole lot of time.
• 24:07
  We didn't get a chance
• 24:08
  to like go have lunch
• 24:09
  or go wheeling or anything like that.
• 24:10
  It was kind of just a short pit stop.
• 24:13
  As I said, he was moving the family,
• 24:15
  so didn't have a whole lot of time.
• 24:17
  But that was the one thing
• 24:18
  that Dan and I did get to do
• 24:19
  together and in
• 24:20
  person was a little meetup.
• 24:22
  And I can't remember,
• 24:23
  I know we at least
• 24:24
  took a couple pictures.
• 24:26
  That was about seven phones ago.
• 24:28
  So I don't know where those pictures are.
• 24:30
  Somewhere in the cloud,
• 24:31
  probably on a hard drive,
• 24:32
  somewhere in the
• 24:33
  computer or something like that.
• 24:34
  But yeah, those are good times.
• 24:36
  Again, something that I
• 24:37
  had kind of forgotten about
• 24:38
  until it comes up in conversation.
• 24:42
  All right, Josh, on our
• 24:43
  recent roundtable episode,
• 24:45
  which is coming up in this episode here
• 24:47
  in just in a minute, we talked about
• 24:51
  what do you look for if
• 24:52
  you wanna buy a used TJ?
• 24:55
  What do you have to go through?
• 24:56
  What are the steps that
• 24:56
  you have to go through?
• 24:58
  And I thought that was a great topic
• 25:00
  because there's people out there.
• 25:02
  We've got a couple of roundtable folks,
• 25:04
  regular roundtable folks
• 25:06
  that have done massive builds.
• 25:08
  To Matt, I actually took an LJ.
• 25:11
  He found an LJ.
• 25:12
  He's got it on coilovers.
• 25:14
  He's got it on 38s.
• 25:16
  He's got, I think, times front and rear.
• 25:20
  It's an amazing build.
• 25:22
  And then Rick in Arkansas
• 25:24
  has done something similar
• 25:25
  with, he actually
• 25:27
  used a couple of Dana 44s
• 25:30
  from a Gladiator.
• 25:31
  And I think he's got 38s on his.
• 25:35
  I don't, I think he did
• 25:37
  call the coilovers as well.
• 25:39
  But the sad thing
• 25:40
  about both those TJ builds,
• 25:42
  which are awesome, LJ and
• 25:44
  TJ build, which is awesome.
• 25:47
  The builds are awesome,
• 25:48
  but the sad part of it is
• 25:49
  they're both black.
• 25:51
  And it's just so sad to
• 25:54
  see an otherwise beautiful-
• 25:56
  I'll cheer you.
• 25:59
  (laughing)
• 26:02
  Rick's is kind of black and silver.
• 26:04
  He's got a lot of Gen
• 26:06
  Right add-ons to it.
• 26:09
  So what do you think?
• 26:10
  What do you have to do?
• 26:11
  If you're somebody
• 26:12
  that's in the market for a TJ,
• 26:13
  maybe you're just in the
• 26:14
  market for a good off-road rig
• 26:17
  and you're looking at the prices of TJs,
• 26:19
  and TJ is an excellent
• 26:21
  platform to build off of.
• 26:24
  Oh, absolutely.
• 26:25
  Yeah, I know the TJ is
• 26:27
  definitely one of those
• 26:29
  that's gonna go down in
• 26:30
  history as probably one
• 26:31
  of the best Jeeps that they ever made.
• 26:34
  Now, there is some Easter egg
• 26:37
  considerations, if you will.
• 26:39
  Some not common
• 26:41
  knowledge that kind of comes
• 26:42
  with selecting a TJ that some people may
• 26:46
  or may not know about.
• 26:47
  And obviously when
• 26:48
  you're gonna be looking
• 26:49
  into buying something
• 26:51
  like an off-road rig,
• 26:53
  a purpose-built rig or
• 26:54
  something that you want to build up
• 26:57
  to do something specific,
• 26:59
  there's gonna be a lot of
• 26:59
  considerations involved.
• 27:00
  You're gonna need to do some homework.
• 27:02
  You're gonna need to do a
• 27:03
  little bit of research and stuff.
• 27:05
  And as you delve deeper
• 27:06
  and deeper into finding out
• 27:08
  what makes a good
• 27:10
  choice for an off-road rig
• 27:12
  and those sort of
• 27:13
  things, you'll maybe fall
• 27:15
  into the category of, well,
• 27:16
  let's start looking at TJs.
• 27:18
  And one of the biggest
• 27:19
  things that I would think
• 27:20
  that a lot of people don't know about
• 27:22
  when it comes to
• 27:22
  looking at a used TJ is one
• 27:24
  of those things that
• 27:26
  tends to pop up with some
• 27:27
  of the older rigs that not a
• 27:31
  whole lot of people know about.
• 27:32
  And that is a little
• 27:33
  bit of rust in the frame.
• 27:35
  And that can be a big,
• 27:37
  big time deal breaker.
• 27:39
  And if you don't know
• 27:40
  what I'm talking about,
• 27:41
  well, some of the TJs
• 27:43
  that come in some regions,
• 27:46
  the frame of the self
• 27:48
  had some spots in it
• 27:49
  that were known to trap water.
• 27:51
  And obviously if you get water and
• 27:54
  debris, mud, dirt, silt,
• 27:56
  all that kind of stuff
• 27:57
  that comes with driving a rig,
• 27:59
  both on-road and off-road,
• 28:01
  you get that moisture
• 28:02
  trapped in the frame.
• 28:03
  Well, guess what's gonna happen?
• 28:04
  Water and metal don't mix too well,
• 28:06
  especially when it's not protected.
• 28:08
  And frame rails
• 28:09
  generally are just bare steel.
• 28:11
  They may have a light
• 28:12
  coat of paint on the outside,
• 28:13
  but certainly nothing on the inside.
• 28:15
  And as that water gets trapped,
• 28:17
  you can actually get
• 28:18
  frame rust on the TJs
• 28:20
  in specific areas it's in towards the
• 28:22
  rear of the vehicle.
• 28:24
  And right up by where
• 28:26
  suspension mounts would be,
• 28:28
  this can cause some
• 28:29
  serious structural damage
• 28:31
  that you may not know about
• 28:33
  until you actually get into your build
• 28:35
  and start doing suspension modifications
• 28:38
  and discover that the
• 28:40
  frame is seriously compromised,
• 28:42
  which can obviously ruin a
• 28:44
  build, can ruin the vehicle.
• 28:46
  One, it makes it unsafe.
• 28:48
  Two, it makes it to where you
• 28:49
  may not be able to build it.
• 28:50
  And three, well, it's a
• 28:53
  very expensive repair.
• 28:55
  At that point, you can look at
• 28:58
  significant amounts of money
• 29:00
  for repair or even
• 29:01
  replacement at that point.
• 29:03
  And it's a body off type of repair,
• 29:05
  meaning you've got to
• 29:06
  take the tub off the frame,
• 29:07
  the frame has to get stripped down,
• 29:10
  and you need to do some serious welding
• 29:12
  or replacing the whole thing altogether.
• 29:14
  So it's one of those things to where,
• 29:16
  obviously, if you're gonna
• 29:17
  be buying any used vehicle,
• 29:18
  you wanna crawl around it,
• 29:19
  you wanna crawl underneath of it,
• 29:20
  you wanna inspect it really good,
• 29:22
  but there are specific points to look at
• 29:25
  when you're looking at a used TJ,
• 29:27
  especially if you're gonna
• 29:27
  be doing an off-road build.
• 29:29
  And that's one of those things
• 29:30
  where just a little bit of research
• 29:32
  will save you a ton of money downstream
• 29:35
  as you get into building your first
• 29:38
  or second off-road rig.
• 29:40
  Yep, and we're going to jump over
• 29:43
  to the round table segment right now
• 29:45
  and see what the round table folks,
• 29:48
  the Zoom people as they
• 29:49
  like to call themselves,
• 29:51
  and see what they have to
• 29:52
  think about buying a used TJ.
• 29:55
  (upbeat music)
• 29:58
  We just had a big
• 29:59
  debate on it, big discussion.
• 30:01
  And I actually put all this stuff,
• 30:03
  all the information
• 30:03
  on both Jeeps and the,
• 30:04
  what was it, 97?
• 30:07
  The other one was like 2004?
• 30:09
  Something like that, yeah.
• 30:10
  The black one was in 2004.
• 30:13
  The red one was in 97.
• 30:16
  And when I put all the
• 30:16
  information into Co-Pilot,
• 30:18
  so does it work, and I put
• 30:19
  the pictures that were posted,
• 30:22
  initially it was all
• 30:23
  about the black Jeep,
• 30:24
  but then when I started
• 30:24
  posting all the pictures,
• 30:25
  it dug in and said,
• 30:27
  everything looks like the 97
• 30:29
  red Jeep's a lot better option.
• 30:32
  And it gave pretty good reasons why.
• 30:34
  Yeah, I missed the 97 detail
• 30:36
  because my 97, I
• 30:38
  lemon-lod because it kept,
• 30:41
  I think it's through the
• 30:42
  front vent on the cowl,
• 30:46
  water would leak into the passenger side.
• 30:50
  Seven times in the first year,
• 30:52
  I took it to Jeep to fix
• 30:53
  it and it never got fixed.
• 30:55
  So I ended up lawn-allying it.
• 30:58
  So I figured that if we talked about,
• 31:02
  what do you check for on
• 31:03
  a used TJ before buying,
• 31:05
  I figured all you salt belt
• 31:06
  people would be saying rust,
• 31:08
  which is I think a
• 31:09
  very good thing to check.
• 31:12
  Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.
• 31:14
  Oh, absolutely.
• 31:15
  It's the frame that you have to check.
• 31:17
  I'm sorry, because other things can rust,
• 31:19
  but a few things will put you in a ditch,
• 31:21
  like a broken frame.
• 31:23
  Right.
• 31:23
  Yeah, well, it made
• 31:25
  me start thinking too,
• 31:25
  because I loaded all the pictures
• 31:27
  from the postings into Copile.
• 31:28
  I said, you know, it's very easy
• 31:29
  that these pictures themselves were AI'd.
• 31:32
  Right.
• 31:34
  Oh yeah, it's amazing what you can do.
• 31:36
  You can make something look a lot better.
• 31:39
  This, it's the original picture,
• 31:41
  but you can make it look a lot better.
• 31:44
  So do you guys, see, I never have to deal
• 31:47
  with any rust concerns down here,
• 31:50
  unless for some reason the
• 31:51
  vehicle came from up north
• 31:53
  one of the places where
• 31:54
  they use a lot of salt.
• 31:56
  So I would think that
• 31:58
  there's some tricks,
• 31:59
  like you take a nice
• 32:00
  screwdriver with you,
• 32:02
  so that you can try poking on the frame.
• 32:05
  Tapping on it, and listen, yeah.
• 32:08
  Straight hammer, ball peen hammer, man.
• 32:12
  (laughing)
• 32:12
  Start tapping those key points.
• 32:14
  Do you, if anybody
• 32:16
  who's been through that,
• 32:17
  do you talk to the owner about it
• 32:19
  before you start beating on the Jeep?
• 32:21
  Because that might
• 32:22
  save you a lot of time.
• 32:23
  Especially if they know it's an issue.
• 32:26
  Yeah, I haven't done it, so.
• 32:29
  Well this Jeep, it really--
• 32:30
  Or will they let you damage their vehicle
• 32:32
  if there is a rust in places?
• 32:36
  Go poke it around with tools?
• 32:40
  Yeah, well this one
• 32:41
  came from South Carolina.
• 32:43
  Yeah, I got it from South Carolina.
• 32:44
  He bought it for his daughter for school,
• 32:47
  but it turns out this
• 32:48
  just wasn't big enough
• 32:50
  for her and friends, and
• 32:51
  she wanted something normal.
• 32:53
  He sealed the frame, he
• 32:55
  used the Eastwood rust sealer
• 32:57
  on everything, Rhino-wide
• 32:59
  the tub under the carpeting.
• 33:02
  Oh, that's good.
• 33:03
  There's no surface rust anywhere.
• 33:05
  The only surface rust I saw
• 33:06
  were on the stupid nerf bars
• 33:08
  on the step bars.
• 33:11
  And even then it was just
• 33:12
  small, superficial stuff
• 33:14
  while he was just starting.
• 33:15
  (mumbles)
• 33:18
  Or quality steel nose, it's really clean.
• 33:21
  How important, I mean, I think,
• 33:23
  I always think that a 4.0
• 33:25
  is the only engine to buy.
• 33:27
  I think other people have
• 33:28
  different opinions on that.
• 33:29
  But whenever I, if it has a 4.0 in it,
• 33:33
  if it's 125,000, 175, I
• 33:38
  don't consider that a big issue.
• 33:40
  Of course you have to
• 33:40
  listen to the engine
• 33:41
  and see how it sounds when it's running.
• 33:45
  Well, after having
• 33:45
  two 4.0s, one in my XJ,
• 33:48
  one in the WJ, you won't convince me
• 33:51
  that it's not worth having a 4.0.
• 33:53
  Although I will tell
• 33:54
  you that my current 3.6
• 33:56
  has more miles than my
• 33:57
  4.0 had before it blew.
• 34:01
  Yeah.
• 34:02
  Things happen.
• 34:03
  I was saying something
• 34:04
  when you can blow up a 4.0.
• 34:06
  I'm not saying you
• 34:07
  can't, it's just unusual.
• 34:09
  I mean, they haven't had
• 34:11
  problems getting them to blow up
• 34:13
  the cash for clunkers.
• 34:14
  Yeah.
• 34:15
  Is it?
• 34:15
  Because all of you 4.0 people go,
• 34:17
  I've never blown up my 4.0.
• 34:19
  It's got 400,000 miles, but
• 34:20
  I've rebuilt it four or five
• 34:22
  times.
• 34:23
  I blew up, no, no, no, no, no.
• 34:25
  I blew up my 4.0 with 6,000 miles on it.
• 34:30
  But what I'm saying is all
• 34:30
  the 4.0 nut huggers are like,
• 34:33
  it's got $400,000.
• 34:34
  Okay, how many times you've rebuilt it?
• 34:35
  Seven?
• 34:36
  Yeah, well, no.
• 34:37
  This was 6,000 original
• 34:39
  new miles that I blew up.
• 34:40
  There was a casting, I was
• 34:43
  driving down the highway.
• 34:44
  I was like, boom, like, what the
• 34:45
  (beep)
• 34:46
  is that coast over
• 34:46
  the side, totally dead.
• 34:48
  You know, when I call the dealer,
• 34:49
  hey, I'm bringing this thing in, man.
• 34:51
  I don't know what's going on.
• 34:51
  Can I get a loaner to go, nah,
• 34:52
  even by the extended warranty.
• 34:54
  I get a page back when we had pagers.
• 34:56
  So I call on him like, we're
• 34:57
  going to give you a loaner.
• 34:58
  I'm like, what do you
• 34:59
  mean you give me a loaner?
• 35:00
  There's a whole size of
• 35:01
  grapefruit in your block.
• 35:02
  No.
• 35:04
  Like, what?
• 35:04
  He goes, we think it
• 35:05
  was a casting defect.
• 35:06
  I'm like, all right.
• 35:07
  (laughing)
• 35:10
  Mine developed a knock that
• 35:12
  I wasn't going to get fixed
• 35:14
  because I needed a bigger
• 35:15
  vehicle at the time anyway.
• 35:17
  But it developed a knock that got
• 35:20
  progressively worse.
• 35:21
  And then it just
• 35:21
  knocked one too many times
• 35:23
  and the engine seized
• 35:24
  and I may have thrown a rod
• 35:26
  or done something,
• 35:28
  but ended up selling it
• 35:29
  to the tow truck driver.
• 35:31
  In hindsight for a lot cheaper
• 35:34
  than I could have gotten
• 35:35
  elsewhere these days, but.
• 35:37
  Yeah.
• 35:41
  No, yeah, I think the tier answer,
• 35:43
  I think the 4.0 is a huge factor.
• 35:45
  My son's got that 1990 YJ
• 35:47
  with the four cylinder in it.
• 35:50
  It's just a dog.
• 35:53
  I think if you have the automatic,
• 35:56
  the four cylinder is
• 35:56
  absolutely worthless.
• 35:57
  As long as you have a manual.
• 35:59
  No, it's got a manual.
• 36:01
  Woman.
• 36:02
  That's interesting.
• 36:04
  I don't know what the problem is.
• 36:04
  Part of the problem is driving 35s.
• 36:07
  Right, I didn't read gear.
• 36:09
  Could be.
• 36:10
  Yeah.
• 36:11
  I have a manual four
• 36:12
  cylinder on 37s factory gears
• 36:15
  and I keep up with everybody.
• 36:18
  As long as there's only 25 miles an hour.
• 36:21
  Yeah.
• 36:22
  Oh, I don't know about the road,
• 36:23
  but that's not the point.
• 36:24
  Oh, he's yeah.
• 36:26
  (laughing)
• 36:27
  We were talking about real Jeep stuff.
• 36:29
  Well, he's coming.
• 36:30
  He's talking about
• 36:31
  moving back in December
• 36:32
  when he graduates.
• 36:33
  And I feel bad, but I'm like,
• 36:36
  "Dude, we don't have
• 36:36
  room to keep that Jeep."
• 36:39
  You know what I mean?
• 36:40
  And I hate him selling
• 36:41
  the 1990 with no rust on it.
• 36:44
  Does he got another car there or?
• 36:47
  Really, he's got the Ford Fusion,
• 36:48
  but he's moving home
• 36:49
  because he's graduating.
• 36:50
  He's talking about going home.
• 36:51
  Exactly, the Fusion's gotta go.
• 36:55
  He's gotta drive the YJ up here
• 36:58
  to wherever he gets a job.
• 37:00
  He's always goes 45 miles an hour.
• 37:03
  He'll die up here, people will kill him.
• 37:06
  I'm just gonna take the
• 37:08
  side roads, that's all.
• 37:09
  That's right.
• 37:10
  There ain't no side roads out here, man.
• 37:12
  Yeah.
• 37:15
  I mean, I hate to do it, but I'm like,
• 37:16
  "Dude, the problem was
• 37:17
  I'd have five cars here.
• 37:18
  I've got a two-car
• 37:19
  garage and a two-car driveway.
• 37:21
  I'm in a suburbia.
• 37:22
  I don't have a place to keep the YJ."
• 37:26
  Do you have a backyard?
• 37:27
  First world problems.
• 37:28
  I'm not allowed to
• 37:30
  build a shed in my backyard.
• 37:32
  Well, you don't need to build a shed
• 37:33
  to see a parker vehicle behind the house.
• 37:36
  That's definitely in
• 37:38
  the HOA covenants as well.
• 37:39
  I can promise you that.
• 37:41
  Not a
• 37:41
  (beep)
• 37:42
  storage spot.
• 37:43
  Why am I running this for you?
• 37:44
  Am I
• 37:44
  (beep)
• 37:45
  (indistinct)
• 37:46
  How do you get a storage spot?
• 37:48
  See if Travis is interested in buying it.
• 37:51
  Oh, good God.
• 37:55
  Yeah.
• 37:57
  Well, you say it doesn't do
• 37:58
  more than 45 miles an hour?
• 38:00
  If it had a four-oh, I'd be
• 38:02
  more willing to entertain it,
• 38:04
  but it's just not, yeah.
• 38:08
  All right, for the folks that joined,
• 38:10
  we're talking about the
• 38:11
  how do you check a TJ,
• 38:13
  a used TJ before buying it.
• 38:15
  We've talked about the rust,
• 38:18
  and I think we've also
• 38:20
  indirectly talked about the engine
• 38:22
  and the transmission.
• 38:24
  So anything else come to
• 38:26
  mind or you can add to that?
• 38:29
  I'll say it's gonna vary a little bit
• 38:32
  on the year model.
• 38:35
  So they did do a slight revamp in 04
• 38:40
  where they changed the back seat.
• 38:42
  They changed those
• 38:44
  four-cylinder motor option.
• 38:48
  They went to a six-speed transmission,
• 38:49
  which whereas, like I said,
• 38:51
  I have a four-cylinder with
• 38:52
  manual with the six-speed.
• 38:54
  My first gear was a 461 to one.
• 38:57
  Oh, it's tight.
• 38:59
  Yeah, so it's a real low gear.
• 39:00
  So that made up for, as
• 39:03
  much as everybody says,
• 39:04
  the four-oh makes a ton of torque.
• 39:05
  It was only 40 pounds of torque
• 39:07
  that it made more than the four-cylinder.
• 39:09
  That's not a huge jump.
• 39:12
  So if you had the manual,
• 39:14
  especially in one of the later TJs
• 39:16
  where you had the 2.4 instead of 2.5,
• 39:20
  you could get away with a lot more
• 39:21
  because you had the double overdrive
• 39:23
  and you had that really deep first gear.
• 39:26
  So, and then there were
• 39:27
  some other little oddities,
• 39:29
  like if you have kids
• 39:30
  that you're taking with you.
• 39:32
  And I forget, this
• 39:34
  changed either 03 or 04.
• 39:36
  They added the latch system with,
• 39:38
  if anyone has younger kids,
• 39:40
  that's the little nail bar system
• 39:42
  that you can lock in car seats and stuff.
• 39:45
  A lot of people don't care about that for
• 39:46
  the off-road vehicle,
• 39:47
  but if you are
• 39:47
  somebody taking young kids,
• 39:48
  that may matter for you.
• 39:51
  So that's one of the big ones.
• 39:54
  There were a couple other little things,
• 39:56
  but those were the big
• 39:57
  ones that stood out for me.
• 40:00
  Other than the rest that was mentioned,
• 40:02
  the motor, like I said,
• 40:06
  mine keeps up with all the 4.0s,
• 40:07
  it keeps up with all the JKs, off-road.
• 40:10
  On the trail, yeah.
• 40:12
  I don't think the
• 40:12
  longevity on the four-cylinder
• 40:14
  is as good as the six-cylinder.
• 40:17
  That's my problem with it.
• 40:18
  This is my personal choice.
• 40:19
  I would not have a four-cylinder.
• 40:22
  Like I said, all these four-liter guys
• 40:24
  that have 300,000 or 400,000 miles,
• 40:26
  but they rebuilt it five times,
• 40:29
  well, it blew up five times.
• 40:31
  If you rebuilt it, it blew up.
• 40:33
  It might have not have
• 40:34
  blown up, but it was gone.
• 40:36
  You had to rebuild it.
• 40:37
  That's a blow up.
• 40:40
  We got a two-five and a
• 40:41
  YJ and a four-0 and the TJ.
• 40:44
  And the TJ was fun until I went to 35s,
• 40:48
  still on the factory gears.
• 40:50
  And it doesn't, like the
• 40:51
  four-0 with 35s factory gears
• 40:56
  doesn't get up as quick as the two-five
• 40:59
  on 33s with factory gears.
• 41:02
  I think that's the
• 41:02
  automatic versus the manual, right?
• 41:05
  Yeah.
• 41:07
  And I said that earlier,
• 41:08
  like with the later TJs,
• 41:09
  you get that 461 to
• 41:10
  one for your first gear.
• 41:13
  So you've got this super deep first gear.
• 41:14
  So you can take off really well.
• 41:16
  And I mean, we joke
• 41:18
  about 45, 50 miles an hour.
• 41:20
  My TJ will do 70.
• 41:21
  It doesn't like it, but it'll do it.
• 41:23
  I can run.
• 41:26
  Come on, baby, come on.
• 41:28
  I live off of a four-lane state highway.
• 41:31
  Like I live in a rural
• 41:31
  area that we leave my house.
• 41:33
  So you go straight onto the
• 41:34
  highway from your driveway?
• 41:36
  Yes, you do.
• 41:37
  Pretty much, like you leave my street
• 41:39
  and you're on the highway.
• 41:41
  But you can do, like I've driven my Jeep
• 41:44
  to work a couple of times.
• 41:46
  And like I drove it,
• 41:49
  well, work now is not as far,
• 41:50
  but I drove it to work
• 41:51
  about 35 miles each way
• 41:53
  and then drove it during my work day.
• 41:56
  And it did fine.
• 41:57
  Like, was I the fastest thing out there?
• 41:59
  Absolutely not.
• 42:00
  I just had to make
• 42:01
  sure that I was, you know,
• 42:02
  giving it all the beans
• 42:03
  all the way down the on-ramp
• 42:04
  so that I could at least be, you know,
• 42:06
  50 getting onto the highway.
• 42:08
  And then I cruised about 60,
• 42:10
  you know, in the right lane.
• 42:11
  I wasn't in a hurry.
• 42:12
  I knew what I was capable of.
• 42:15
  You know, I wasn't dumb
• 42:16
  about it, but it did it.
• 42:19
  And it was fine with 60.
• 42:20
  It just doesn't like
• 42:21
  getting above, you know, 70.
• 42:22
  At 70, it's like, no, I'm unhappy.
• 42:24
  You're going way too hard.
• 42:27
  Yeah, I don't see a
• 42:28
  problem with the two fives.
• 42:29
  I mean, they work.
• 42:31
  I mean, that's, you
• 42:33
  know, back in the day, right?
• 42:34
  Ford put a five-oh in a Mustang
• 42:36
  and they put a 2.3
• 42:37
  four-cylinder in a Mustang.
• 42:39
  Yeah, it worked. It's turbo.
• 42:41
  Mine didn't, mine was just 2.3.
• 42:44
  Oh, you had to get a non-turbo.
• 42:46
  Yeah, so I mean, it worked.
• 42:48
  It just, you just
• 42:49
  couldn't get there fast,
• 42:51
  but it was sufficient.
• 42:54
  I'll say to you, my
• 42:54
  sister did have a non-turbo
• 42:56
  in like 88 or 89, and
• 42:57
  she got multiple, you know,
• 42:59
  80, 85 mile an hour
• 43:00
  speeding tickets in that car.
• 43:02
  Yeah, it would go the speed.
• 43:04
  It just took you a minute to get there.
• 43:06
  Yeah.
• 43:08
  Yeah, that picture creeps me out.
• 43:11
  Which I mean, and if we're
• 43:12
  comparing like a TJ at this
• 43:13
  point, the newest TJ
• 43:14
  is almost 20 years old.
• 43:17
  If you took a high
• 43:19
  performance car 20 years ago,
• 43:22
  most of them barely make the horsepower
• 43:25
  that your average commuter car makes now.
• 43:27
  Correct.
• 43:28
  So. Yeah, I mean,
• 43:29
  what are the TJs, 115 maybe?
• 43:33
  Well, I mean, a
• 43:33
  Corolla makes over 300 today.
• 43:38
  Oh man, a factory Civic
• 43:39
  or something like that.
• 43:40
  It's an easy buck 90.
• 43:43
  So, I mean, like you
• 43:45
  take a Toyota Corolla,
• 43:46
  which is your last forever commuter car,
• 43:49
  makes 300 horsepower a day.
• 43:51
  That's what a Camaro
• 43:52
  SS made 25 years ago.
• 43:56
  So being realistic,
• 43:57
  like you gotta be realistic
• 43:59
  about what you're buying for
• 44:01
  its age and what it can do.
• 44:02
  Like that's just, you gotta
• 44:07
  have a solid thought process
• 44:08
  when you go to look at them.
• 44:11
  So the Jeep four liter is
• 44:13
  actually 190 horsepower.
• 44:17
  The 4, the 2.4, this was in 2006.
• 44:24
  The 2.4 is 147 horsepower.
• 44:27
  What was the torque?
• 44:30
  Torque for the four
• 44:32
  cylinder, 160 foot pounds,
• 44:34
  165 at 4,000, four liter, 235 at 3,200.
• 44:43
  Hmm. Yeah.
• 44:44
  Where you get those numbers?
• 44:45
  I looked at that at one point.
• 44:47
  Jim and I.
• 44:49
  Maybe I should use Grok and ask.
• 44:52
  I looked it up not that
• 44:54
  long ago, not using AI,
• 44:55
  just using like Google
• 44:57
  and picking multiple sites
• 44:58
  and it was not that far off.
• 44:59
  It was like 40, 50 foot pounds.
• 45:02
  It really wasn't that big of a change.
• 45:06
  And if you could get the manual with the
• 45:07
  low gear, let's see.
• 45:14
  Now I will give the six
• 45:16
  cylinder with the four row,
• 45:18
  you're gonna get a lower RPM range
• 45:20
  because that's how straight sixes work.
• 45:22
  You know, like I have a
• 45:22
  Cummins in my pickup truck.
• 45:25
  One of the great deals about those
• 45:26
  is they make torque
• 45:27
  down low, which diesels do,
• 45:28
  but when you have a straight six, it
• 45:30
  makes it even lower.
• 45:33
  Never heard that
• 45:33
  before, that's interesting.
• 45:36
  I'm pulling up the
• 45:36
  factory sales brochure.
• 45:39
  That a straight six
• 45:40
  makes more torque down low.
• 45:42
  I mean, I know that it did.
• 45:43
  I didn't know it made more
• 45:45
  than a diesel did though.
• 45:47
  No, no, no, I'm saying like if you take,
• 45:49
  like I have a Cummins with a
• 45:50
  straight six cylinder diesel.
• 45:52
  So diesel's already make torque down low,
• 45:54
  but if you took my six cylinder diesel
• 45:56
  versus like a V8, like a
• 45:57
  PowerStroke or a Duramax diesel,
• 46:01
  my peak torque will still
• 46:02
  be four or 500 RPM lower
• 46:04
  because I have an inline six versus a V
• 46:08
  or a four cylinder style diesel.
• 46:10
  Right.
• 46:12
  It's just one of those,
• 46:13
  a six cylinders nature
• 46:16
  is to make torque better in a lower RPM.
• 46:21
  Well, I know whenever
• 46:22
  they, when I guess it was AMC
• 46:25
  went from that Chevrolet
• 46:27
  engine they had in there,
• 46:28
  V6, I think to the
• 46:31
  straight six, the tractor engine,
• 46:33
  things improved
• 46:33
  drastically for the jeeps.
• 46:36
  It made the torque
• 46:37
  lower in the RPM range.
• 46:39
  And that's it is even with
• 46:41
  a V6 versus an inline six,
• 46:43
  a V6's peak torque is
• 46:45
  probably still gonna be
• 46:46
  in the three to 4,000 range.
• 46:49
  In a straight six, you can get it closer
• 46:50
  to the two to three range.
• 46:53
  It's just the nature of
• 46:54
  the inline six Ford had a,
• 46:56
  I think it was a 4.2 liter,
• 46:58
  they couldn't have F-150s.
• 47:00
  And they were a torque
• 47:01
  monster, like absolute monster
• 47:04
  because it was an inline six
• 47:06
  and they geared them
• 47:07
  low in the transmission.
• 47:09
  They still had a fairly light rear gear
• 47:12
  so that you could drive them on the road.
• 47:14
  But just with that inline
• 47:16
  six, it made so much torque
• 47:17
  and then they gear it right.
• 47:18
  And they were better
• 47:20
  towing than the V8 trucks.
• 47:22
  So let me ask you this,
• 47:23
  I think one of the things
• 47:25
  that I would be on the lookout for,
• 47:26
  because it kind of happened
• 47:27
  when we got my oldest daughter,
• 47:29
  TJ, she's got a 2005.
• 47:32
  If it comes with a, oh, I
• 47:37
  can't even remember what it's
• 47:37
  called, the cloth top,
• 47:39
  the soft top, thank you.
• 47:42
  That the soft top can be
• 47:44
  of not the best quality
• 47:47
  depending on how it was kept and stored
• 47:48
  and taken care of.
• 47:50
  And I mean, it's easy
• 47:51
  enough to buy a replacement,
• 47:53
  but have you guys priced
• 47:55
  soft tops for anything?
• 47:58
  But in this case, specifically the TJ,
• 48:01
  I think the one we got for my wife's 2003
• 48:04
  was around 650 bucks, but that was
• 48:07
  probably 12 years ago.
• 48:09
  And so I paid 250 for
• 48:12
  mine about three years ago.
• 48:15
  Now my name is Amazon Special.
• 48:17
  And I think you set
• 48:18
  your expectations with,
• 48:20
  it's an Amazon Special, but
• 48:22
  I've had it for three years.
• 48:23
  I haven't had any issues.
• 48:26
  It's not a best top obviously.
• 48:28
  No, no.
• 48:29
  Like I said, you gotta
• 48:30
  set your expectations
• 48:31
  with what you spend.
• 48:33
  I would expect way more out of
• 48:34
  a best top at its price point
• 48:35
  than I would my Amazon Special.
• 48:38
  But at least you have a top.
• 48:39
  I mean, even if you
• 48:40
  gotta buy it three times,
• 48:43
  you still wouldn't be
• 48:45
  spending as much money
• 48:46
  if it was what it is,
• 48:46
  cost for a best top.
• 48:48
  Yeah, I can buy three
• 48:49
  or four for a best top.
• 48:51
  Yeah, you have to look at
• 48:52
  those two is where you're at.
• 48:54
  Up here, the twill top and
• 48:56
  the winner does me just fine.
• 48:58
  I'm not gonna go cheap on a cheap top
• 49:00
  because I need the installation.
• 49:02
  Oh no, if you can afford it.
• 49:04
  I mean, I think best top
• 49:05
  is always the way to go.
• 49:06
  I don't disagree with the
• 49:08
  knowing your location at all,
• 49:09
  either like 99% of the
• 49:12
  time I don't run a top.
• 49:13
  I use my top more for storage than I do
• 49:16
  for actually driving.
• 49:20
  I will say it holds in heat really well
• 49:22
  when we go out in the winter and wheel,
• 49:24
  but I'm also wheeling
• 49:25
  in 20 to 30 degrees.
• 49:28
  I'm not getting into
• 49:28
  the negatives and stuff.
• 49:29
  So it may be way worse than that.
• 49:31
  It may not work in that, I don't know.
• 49:34
  Yeah.
• 49:35
  But.
• 49:38
  Well, if you're in a YJ or a TJ,
• 49:39
  it doesn't matter
• 49:40
  what top you're running,
• 49:41
  if you're not running carpet,
• 49:42
  because you can just get all your heat
• 49:44
  from your floor pan.
• 49:46
  That's for sure.
• 49:48
  And if you're missing it,
• 49:48
  like I put an aftermarket
• 49:50
  shifter on my transfer case.
• 49:52
  Those four little holes where
• 49:53
  the factory shifter bolted up
• 49:55
  let a lot of heat through.
• 49:56
  Oh my God.
• 49:57
  Especially for little half inch holes.
• 50:00
  Oh, they're brutal.
• 50:01
  The YJ with the two five?
• 50:04
  My Lord, man, that thing gets stupid hot.
• 50:09
  Well, I think if you're
• 50:10
  in the market for one,
• 50:11
  you need to know what
• 50:12
  you're doing to you.
• 50:12
  Like, are you just gonna throw 33s on it
• 50:15
  and go run fire roads?
• 50:16
  Or are you looking for
• 50:17
  something you're gonna build?
• 50:18
  Cause like, if you're gonna build it,
• 50:21
  buy the four cylinder
• 50:22
  with the Dana 30 and 35
• 50:26
  and who cares?
• 50:26
  Cause you're gonna change it all anyway.
• 50:28
  But as long as you start
• 50:29
  with a solid frame, right?
• 50:30
  Yeah, you gotta have a solid frame.
• 50:32
  Completely agree.
• 50:32
  That's the big issue with TJs.
• 50:35
  But if you're not
• 50:36
  gonna do a whole lot to it,
• 50:38
  then consider spending
• 50:39
  more money for the Rubicon.
• 50:40
  But right now Rubicon TJs
• 50:43
  pull up ridiculous premium
• 50:45
  for a good clean one.
• 50:48
  People that wanted TJs 30 years ago,
• 50:50
  they go, finally, I'm
• 50:51
  gonna get me a Rubicon.
• 50:53
  Yeah, and it's, I mean,
• 50:56
  for what they cost now,
• 50:57
  like you could step
• 50:58
  into a clean JK, like.
• 51:03
  We had a guy here.
• 51:05
  Comparable TJ to
• 51:07
  comparable, like it's a TJ,
• 51:10
  but like even an LJ,
• 51:14
  you can step into a
• 51:15
  four door JK for less.
• 51:17
  Oh yeah, for an LJ, absolutely.
• 51:20
  Well, it's cause it's a JK.
• 51:22
  I mean, I'm talking like,
• 51:23
  I can get, you can get into a Rubicon JK
• 51:27
  for less than a clean LJ.
• 51:30
  I could buy a built
• 51:31
  JK for less than an LJ.
• 51:33
  Like I could buy a JK on tons
• 51:36
  and 40s for less than a clean LJ.
• 51:39
  Yeah.
• 51:41
  What are they, sorry, go ahead.
• 51:43
  Not bad.
• 51:44
  No, go ahead.
• 51:45
  What are, I know the LJs
• 51:47
  here are running about 20,000.
• 51:50
  It depends on condition.
• 51:52
  I've seen them as low
• 51:52
  as 10 for really rough.
• 51:55
  And I've seen them as high as 35, really.
• 51:59
  I saw one for 42.
• 52:01
  Was it built?
• 52:03
  No, it was a Rubicon.
• 52:04
  It had a lift on there,
• 52:06
  but it looked like it was a easy build.
• 52:12
  It wasn't like something
• 52:12
  that actually went off road.
• 52:14
  I think that's somebody
• 52:16
  we're gonna a little bit
• 52:17
  over the top.
• 52:18
  Oh yeah.
• 52:18
  Clean LJ, I'm seeing a mic.
• 52:21
  You'll find them in that
• 52:23
  12 on the low end up to 18,
• 52:26
  not a Rubicon.
• 52:27
  Rubicon bump it up, you're
• 52:29
  gonna start looking at 22.
• 52:32
  But I spend more time on,
• 52:34
  if I got paid by the hour
• 52:35
  for the amount of
• 52:36
  time I spend on Facebook,
• 52:38
  I wouldn't need to be
• 52:39
  on Facebook marketplace.
• 52:44
  But I think that's the,
• 52:45
  and I get that the LJ was
• 52:47
  a lower production model,
• 52:49
  but when you're investing your dollar,
• 52:52
  unless you just absolutely want an LJ,
• 52:55
  you can get a lot more for
• 52:56
  your dollar in a JK or JKU.
• 53:00
  Yeah.
• 53:02
  I mean, I like LJs, don't get me wrong.
• 53:06
  But for me, it's always,
• 53:08
  I hate to say return on investment,
• 53:09
  because it's not return on investment.
• 53:10
  You're gonna lose your...
• 53:11
  Oh, absolutely.
• 53:12
  (laughing)
• 53:13
  But what you're getting for your dollar,
• 53:17
  you're gonna do way better in a JK or JKU
• 53:22
  than you would an LJ.
• 53:23
  And the TJs, you can
• 53:24
  still find some deals.
• 53:25
  And it seems like the
• 53:25
  market like softened up
• 53:27
  a little bit in the last year.
• 53:29
  Like they were really skyrocketing
• 53:31
  where the four
• 53:32
  cylinders were pulling over 10K.
• 53:34
  And it has softened up quite a bit
• 53:36
  where you can get into a
• 53:37
  four liter Rubicon for,
• 53:39
  you know, 10 to 12,
• 53:40
  but still good condition clean one.
• 53:43
  But, and like low mileage,
• 53:46
  not a high mileage one.
• 53:47
  Like I've seen 50, 60,000
• 53:50
  mile TJs for 12, 13,000.
• 53:55
  But I think that LJ,
• 53:59
  there's something about those
• 54:00
  that those people go crazy.
• 54:01
  Like I like them,
• 54:04
  but I don't $10,000 more
• 54:06
  than what I can buy a TJ for.
• 54:09
  I like them.
• 54:11
  If I would have known what an LJ was,
• 54:14
  what I bought mine,
• 54:15
  I would want the LJ
• 54:16
  just from all the headaches
• 54:19
  with rear suspension
• 54:20
  and pinion angles and.
• 54:22
  Well, you remember when the LJ came out,
• 54:24
  nobody wanted them
• 54:24
  because they were ugly as fuck.
• 54:26
  Yeah.
• 54:27
  Everybody thought they looked all good.
• 54:28
  It does, they look really strange.
• 54:31
  They look strange.
• 54:31
  They're not, Jeep turned pretty vehicles
• 54:34
  in the first place.
• 54:35
  No, Jeep is pretty.
• 54:36
  Well, no, but like when the LJ came out,
• 54:38
  everybody looked up and know that's fuck.
• 54:40
  Like it was, the
• 54:42
  proportions weren't right.
• 54:44
  Jeeps had always been fairly square.
• 54:47
  Like it didn't matter what
• 54:48
  angle you looked at them for,
• 54:49
  it looked like a cube.
• 54:51
  Yeah.
• 54:52
  And then that LJ came
• 54:53
  out and they're like,
• 54:53
  that's not right, that's
• 54:54
  a rectangle, not a cube.
• 54:57
  And then the
• 54:57
  proportions for the drop off angle
• 55:01
  and all that,
• 55:03
  everybody just looked at them
• 55:03
  and was like, that's terrible.
• 55:04
  I remember the first time I saw an OJ,
• 55:07
  I was like, ooh.
• 55:08
  Yeah.
• 55:09
  I remember the first time I saw a
• 55:11
  scrambler in person,
• 55:12
  a scrambler's ugly as hell.
• 55:13
  (beep)
• 55:15
  Yeah, we're the same
• 55:16
  way with the four doors.
• 55:17
  Like, you know, we're
• 55:17
  all, we got two doors,
• 55:19
  but the four doors to
• 55:19
  me look goofy as well.
• 55:21
  Like, I mean, they're
• 55:22
  good for what they are.
• 55:23
  When you need the
• 55:24
  room, they just, they do.
• 55:26
  Hey, what are you saying?
• 55:28
  Well, hey, I'm not hating,
• 55:30
  this is the Jeep talk show.
• 55:31
  We're talking Jeeps.
• 55:32
  That's right.
• 55:33
  I would prefer to have
• 55:33
  a two door gladiator.
• 55:35
  I think a two door
• 55:36
  gladiator would be snazzy.
• 55:38
  Have you seen the scrambler?
• 55:41
  I think so.
• 55:42
  The new scrambler, they're gonna put the,
• 55:45
  we already checked that box.
• 55:47
  We're gonna get one when they come out,
• 55:49
  but they're running the
• 55:50
  square headlights and the 392s.
• 55:55
  Now believe it when I see one.
• 55:57
  Well, they're supposed to be 27 or 28.
• 56:01
  Is it an IFS wig?
• 56:02
  I was just gonna say, it's IFS.
• 56:05
  (laughing)
• 56:06
  No, no, no, they were
• 56:07
  really talking about that.
• 56:09
  Oh, no, absolutely.
• 56:10
  Jeep wants to build a desert run style
• 56:14
  pre-runner type rig with IFS.
• 56:17
  Oh, go buy a Raptor.
• 56:20
  I gotta agree with that.
• 56:22
  Just because of the size of a Raptor,
• 56:24
  you're gonna be able to have better
• 56:27
  drooping suspension,
• 56:29
  which in the desert at high speeds,
• 56:30
  that's what you need.
• 56:33
  The proportions work
• 56:34
  better in a Raptor than they do.
• 56:35
  I do not need a Jeep going
• 56:37
  high speed in the desert.
• 56:40
  If the suspension's right, it'd be fun.
• 56:44
  The scramblers ought to be
• 56:45
  fun if they do them right,
• 56:47
  because it's supposed to be a two door.
• 56:50
  So it'll be a two door,
• 56:52
  like kind of extended cab
• 56:53
  with a bed on it.
• 56:55
  So it'll be pretty neat.
• 56:56
  Now I would not mind
• 56:57
  seeing a police chase
• 56:59
  where the high speed
• 57:01
  off-road IFS suspension Jeep
• 57:04
  took off off-road.
• 57:06
  Catch me if you can, Hopper.
• 57:10
  I think it depends on where you're at.
• 57:13
  Because as much as, I
• 57:15
  mean, I know you're in Houston,
• 57:17
  Tony, Houston's got some
• 57:19
  really fast police cars
• 57:21
  that a lot of people don't know about.
• 57:23
  Oh yeah.
• 57:23
  Like I know they've
• 57:24
  got a Lambo, I know that.
• 57:26
  They've got a Viper.
• 57:27
  We have a Viper and a
• 57:30
  completely unmarked Camaro,
• 57:32
  like the lights are
• 57:34
  in where the sun visors
• 57:37
  are supposed to be and
• 57:37
  that's the only lights.
• 57:39
  Like I know there's a lot
• 57:40
  of cars like that in Texas.
• 57:42
  So if you go somewhere out in the desert,
• 57:43
  the idea that they don't have something
• 57:45
  that could go through
• 57:46
  the desert seems kind of--
• 57:47
  I would be really surprised.
• 57:49
  That would be a chase, it
• 57:50
  would be worth watching.
• 57:52
  That would be cool.
• 57:53
  It would be cool, but I mean,
• 57:54
  like you think about the Rubicon,
• 57:56
  all of the Forest Service
• 57:58
  Street and Sheriff's up there,
• 57:59
  they had built Jeeps
• 58:00
  because they have to go
• 58:01
  through the Rubicon, right?
• 58:03
  So the idea that there's not some sort of
• 58:07
  pre-runner style
• 58:08
  pickup for the desert areas
• 58:10
  is I think a little naive.
• 58:12
  Maybe I'm not informed on this,
• 58:14
  but I don't know why
• 58:16
  emergency groups fire the police,
• 58:19
  all of them, EMS don't have a Jeep,
• 58:23
  an off-road capable Jeep lifted so that
• 58:25
  when the water's high
• 58:26
  or they need to get
• 58:27
  to somebody that may be
• 58:30
  a little bit off-road and maybe wet,
• 58:32
  I think they all need to
• 58:34
  have at least one modified--
• 58:36
  I can tell you what--
• 58:38
  They have MRAPs.
• 58:39
  A lot of them have
• 58:42
  picked up MRAPs, right?
• 58:43
  But then there's also
• 58:43
  cargo issues with the Jeep.
• 58:46
  So a lot of, like we were
• 58:47
  watching Shark Week earlier,
• 58:49
  you go to the beach,
• 58:50
  everybody's got pickups
• 58:51
  that are slightly
• 58:52
  lifted like TRD Pro, Tacomas,
• 58:54
  or I haven't seen any JTs,
• 58:59
  but the bed on a JT is so short
• 59:01
  that I don't think it works for it.
• 59:04
  But like, I know we have
• 59:05
  F-250s out here where I live
• 59:07
  and Cal Country, because they need them
• 59:09
  to get through pastures and fields.
• 59:12
  So it just depends on
• 59:13
  where you are in the country.
• 59:14
  Yeah, they evacuate
• 59:16
  someone on a backboard
• 59:17
  in a pickup truck a lot
• 59:18
  easier than anything else too.
• 59:20
  Yeah.
• 59:22
  They don't know police,
• 59:24
  Daytona Florida police
• 59:25
  have Jeeps for the beach.
• 59:28
  I bet they got pickup trucks in the
• 59:30
  lifeguard EMS too though.
• 59:33
  Yeah, they do.
• 59:35
  I don't know what the
• 59:36
  purpose is in the Jeep,
• 59:37
  other than just maybe
• 59:38
  the four wheel drive
• 59:39
  and just for the beach, but yeah,
• 59:41
  I don't think you're
• 59:42
  gonna haul anybody in it
• 59:43
  or do any emergency
• 59:47
  stuff, but they do have some.
• 59:49
  A few of the sheriff's
• 59:51
  departments out here,
• 59:52
  or well, not out here, out in Colorado,
• 59:55
  have a range of a four
• 59:57
  door Wranglers they use
• 1:00:00
  that are pretty decently built
• 1:00:02
  to go back and send them
• 1:00:03
  to the trees and stuff.
• 1:00:05
  Oh, that's just Park Colorado.
• 1:00:07
  The police department has a pomer
• 1:00:09
  out near Rocky Mountain National Park.
• 1:00:11
  Wow, I wonder what the point in that is.
• 1:00:14
  (laughs) Well, if it's at age one, it makes sense.
• 1:00:17
  No, it is at age one.
• 1:00:19
  Yeah, it's a surplus.
• 1:00:21
  Yeah.
• 1:00:21
  Because they get them
• 1:00:22
  from National Guard sell off.
• 1:00:28
  So National Guard, so
• 1:00:31
  they have their auction,
• 1:00:32
  state does, sells it off.
• 1:00:34
  And in most places, the way it works
• 1:00:37
  is a municipality can buy it.
• 1:00:40
  Like I can't go to a
• 1:00:41
  state auction selling
• 1:00:43
  National Guard equipment and just buy
• 1:00:47
  the National Guard equipment.
• 1:00:48
  It's gotta go to a municipality first.
• 1:00:51
  Well, that's because of your record.
• 1:00:55
  That probably doesn't
• 1:00:56
  hurt anything either.
• 1:00:57
  I don't know why.
• 1:01:00
  (laughs)
• 1:01:01
  So-
• 1:01:01
  If I drive like this in a GEO Metro,
• 1:01:04
  what the fuck would I
• 1:01:04
  do in a Hummer, huh?
• 1:01:06
  (laughs)
• 1:01:07
  So let me wrap up this TJ conversation.
• 1:01:10
  We talked about what to check
• 1:01:12
  if you're interested in buying a used TJ.
• 1:01:14
  Let me ask this question.
• 1:01:16
  Is it a good idea to buy a used TJ?
• 1:01:20
  I know that Kevin had said
• 1:01:22
  that depending on the price,
• 1:01:23
  it might be better to get a JK
• 1:01:26
  because you get a little
• 1:01:27
  more bank for the buck.
• 1:01:29
  But do you guys think a TJ
• 1:01:31
  is still a viable off-road rig
• 1:01:34
  that would be fun to have
• 1:01:35
  and build up and then take off?
• 1:01:36
  Oh, 100%.
• 1:01:38
  Absolutely, yes.
• 1:01:39
  There's a certain element to having
• 1:01:41
  a smaller vehicle off-road of more
• 1:01:45
  bucker factor, I think, right?
• 1:01:48
  Whereas the JK's got the more stout,
• 1:01:50
  especially the JKU's got
• 1:01:51
  a more stout footprint.
• 1:01:53
  Wider, wider and longer, yeah.
• 1:01:55
  Yeah, that little TJ just
• 1:01:57
  enhances the bucker factor
• 1:01:59
  a little more, I think, right?
• 1:02:01
  It goes beyond that.
• 1:02:03
  I can take the little red brick in places
• 1:02:07
  without as much
• 1:02:07
  effort as some of the JK's
• 1:02:10
  and gladiator side wheel with.
• 1:02:12
  Oh, sure.
• 1:02:12
  Yeah.
• 1:02:13
  Oh yeah.
• 1:02:14
  Especially in wooded
• 1:02:16
  areas with although one,
• 1:02:18
  there's a lot of trees, it's a lot easier
• 1:02:19
  to navigate around all that stuff.
• 1:02:22
  Out of Hidden Falls,
• 1:02:24
  one of the trails we did
• 1:02:25
  when I was down there, I was not even
• 1:02:28
  where I was supposed
• 1:02:29
  to be, but it didn't
• 1:02:30
  matter because I just turned
• 1:02:32
  and went through the trees.
• 1:02:34
  You were behind me in Chief
• 1:02:36
  Talkshoke Gladiator, Tony,
• 1:02:38
  and are in front of me,
• 1:02:39
  no, you were in front of me,
• 1:02:40
  and you had to go around some trees
• 1:02:44
  that I could fit through.
• 1:02:45
  Yeah.
• 1:02:47
  Yeah, I remember that, not the trip,
• 1:02:49
  that trip that Bob was on,
• 1:02:53
  but the one that I was at there
• 1:02:54
  when we went through some
• 1:02:55
  trees after watching somebody
• 1:02:56
  try to calm down a hard waterfall,
• 1:02:59
  I was able to zip
• 1:03:00
  through the straightest line
• 1:03:02
  versus a lot of the
• 1:03:03
  JK's and JT's were like,
• 1:03:05
  or tail used, JK
• 1:03:07
  used, were having to make
• 1:03:09
  three point, four point
• 1:03:10
  turns to make some of the stuff,
• 1:03:11
  and I was just, zip, zip,
• 1:03:13
  zip, because I didn't have
• 1:03:15
  the wheel base to get out that I need,
• 1:03:17
  or I didn't have the wheel base they did,
• 1:03:19
  so I was able to make sharper turns
• 1:03:22
  and not have to worry
• 1:03:22
  about where I was swinging
• 1:03:24
  in the back or in the
• 1:03:26
  middle, because there's no middle.
• 1:03:29
  Yeah, I can't remember
• 1:03:30
  the gentleman's name,
• 1:03:31
  he's a listener or viewer that comes here
• 1:03:33
  on the round table quite often,
• 1:03:34
  but I remember Chuck trying to get up,
• 1:03:38
  I think it was TRO, he was
• 1:03:40
  trying to get up over that ledge
• 1:03:42
  and he couldn't make it in that
• 1:03:43
  scrambler, he tried hard,
• 1:03:44
  and then the other guy in
• 1:03:46
  the TJ just walked right up it,
• 1:03:50
  it's such an amazing thing
• 1:03:52
  to see, it was just so easy.
• 1:03:54
  Everybody was having problems with TRO,
• 1:03:57
  I think it was when
• 1:03:58
  you leave the end of TRO.
• 1:04:01
  I've done that at Barnwell
• 1:04:02
  where I've been out there
• 1:04:04
  with 20 JKUs and XJs and they're
• 1:04:08
  struggling with something
• 1:04:09
  and I'm like, "Get the
• 1:04:11
  (beep)
• 1:04:11
  out of the way."
• 1:04:12
  Yeah, now I was saying that
• 1:04:14
  on some of the really tall
• 1:04:16
  ledges like out in Moab,
• 1:04:19
  Poison Spider, a couple of those,
• 1:04:21
  the JKs, even Dutchess, LJ
• 1:04:25
  goes up it and I get to it
• 1:04:27
  and I'm on my back bumper
• 1:04:29
  looking straight up going,
• 1:04:30
  "No, no, this is a recipe for going over
• 1:04:34
  backwards, I'm good."
• 1:04:36
  Just coming down that
• 1:04:36
  drop on Steelbender, Bob,
• 1:04:38
  when you were behind after
• 1:04:39
  you came down after I did,
• 1:04:40
  I was watching, I'm like, "Oh,
• 1:04:42
  (beep)
• 1:04:42
  no."
• 1:04:43
  I do that in a TJ.
• 1:04:45
  Well, Bill, we were out
• 1:04:46
  on Bins and Things one year
• 1:04:50
  and Bill had his, it was the first year
• 1:04:52
  he had his two door out there.
• 1:04:54
  Yeah, that was funny.
• 1:04:54
  And he went down
• 1:04:55
  something, you were with us, right?
• 1:04:57
  Yeah, I followed him right down.
• 1:04:59
  He went down and I lined up for it
• 1:05:02
  and Bill's like, "Hang on a second."
• 1:05:03
  And he gets out and records it
• 1:05:05
  and my front tires are
• 1:05:06
  over the edge and I'm going,
• 1:05:08
  "If Bill's getting out
• 1:05:09
  to record this as I do it,
• 1:05:10
  how dumb am I about to be?"
• 1:05:14
  Somebody says, "Wait,
• 1:05:16
  I need to video this."
• 1:05:18
  Yeah, don't go yet, I need to get set up.
• 1:05:21
  That's on the one where you could go,
• 1:05:23
  there's three paths to the
• 1:05:24
  left and one to the right.
• 1:05:26
  Yeah, and he went down to Steepless
• 1:05:28
  and he was like,
• 1:05:29
  "That was pucker factor."
• 1:05:30
  I followed him and I was puckering.
• 1:05:33
  You know it's a
• 1:05:33
  serious trail where they say,
• 1:05:35
  "Let me get my camera set up
• 1:05:36
  and let me dial 9-1 on my phone."
• 1:05:40
  Well, I went down that and my bumper
• 1:05:45
  was straight down into the dirt.
• 1:05:47
  I actually got out and looked
• 1:05:49
  because I was sure I
• 1:05:49
  bent my license plate.
• 1:05:53
  Well, I mean, that's part
• 1:05:55
  of this short two door life.
• 1:05:57
  I've loaded my Jeep in a creek,
• 1:05:59
  I've lawn darted my Razor,
• 1:06:02
  I've lawn darted a
• 1:06:03
  couple different places.
• 1:06:05
  And that's just part of being short.
• 1:06:06
  You gotta know, if you feel
• 1:06:08
  that back end start to come up,
• 1:06:10
  you need to hammer the throttle
• 1:06:12
  because otherwise
• 1:06:13
  you're probably going over.
• 1:06:14
  Yeah, get that power while the tires
• 1:06:15
  are still touching
• 1:06:16
  the ground, absolutely.
• 1:06:19
  All right, so I think
• 1:06:19
  we've covered the TJ.
• 1:06:21
  I think everybody here either said
• 1:06:23
  the TJ's a good Jeep to buy
• 1:06:26
  and there's, I think the
• 1:06:28
  thickness of the metal,
• 1:06:29
  including the frame, all
• 1:06:31
  the rest of that stuff,
• 1:06:32
  make it a good long-term Jeep as well,
• 1:06:35
  as long as you take care of it
• 1:06:36
  and make sure it
• 1:06:37
  doesn't have a lot of rust.
• 1:06:38
  Well, guys, I sure appreciate it.
• 1:06:39
  And maybe we got somebody out there
• 1:06:41
  that was thinking about a TJ
• 1:06:43
  and they're looking at it a
• 1:06:45
  little more seriously now.
• 1:06:47
  From the mind of Nicky G.
• 1:06:52
  Hey, this is Nicky G.
• 1:06:53
  I just wanted to let you guys know
• 1:06:53
  that I used to work at
• 1:06:55
  a fire hydrant factory.
• 1:06:57
  Yeah, you couldn't park
• 1:06:58
  nowhere near the place.
• 1:07:01
  (drums beating)
• 1:07:01
  I want to try this one on for size.
• 1:07:06
  At a bridge near my house was closed.
• 1:07:08
  Yeah, I can't get over it.
• 1:07:11
  (drums beating)
• 1:07:12
  And last but not least,
• 1:07:15
  I thought I heard my printer
• 1:07:16
  playing some music last night.
• 1:07:19
  Turned out it was just paper jamming.
• 1:07:22
  What can I say?
• 1:07:23
  It is what it is.
• 1:07:24
  All right, boys and girls, like,
• 1:07:25
  chat it later and have a good one.
• 1:07:26
  Bye.
• 1:07:28
  (upbeat music)
• 1:07:28
  (engine revving)
• 1:07:31
  All right, Josh, I hear you have another
• 1:07:34
  (beep)
• 1:07:35
  you, you
• 1:07:35
  (beep)
• 1:07:36
  (beep)
• 1:07:36
  nothing personal to you guys, but
• 1:07:38
  (beep)
• 1:07:38
  you.
• 1:07:40
  Take it, Josh.
• 1:07:41
  Well, a lot of the people
• 1:07:42
  probably are thinking by now,
• 1:07:43
  holy
• 1:07:43
  (beep)
• 1:07:44
  Josh likes to drive fast all of the time.
• 1:07:47
  He's always talking about speed
• 1:07:48
  and people being in his
• 1:07:49
  way and stuff like that.
• 1:07:50
  Look, it's gonna kind of follow in
• 1:07:52
  that common theme here.
• 1:07:53
  I am a bit of an aggressive driver.
• 1:07:56
  I drive just like I walk
• 1:07:57
  through the grocery store
• 1:07:58
  with purpose and determination.
• 1:08:00
  I have a place to go.
• 1:08:01
  I'm trying to get there.
• 1:08:02
  And if you're in my way,
• 1:08:03
  you're part of the problem,
• 1:08:04
  not part of the solution.
• 1:08:05
  And this is one of these things,
• 1:08:07
  I'm sure we've all experienced this a
• 1:08:08
  million times before.
• 1:08:10
  You're stuck in a line
• 1:08:11
  of traffic or whatever.
• 1:08:12
  There's somebody in front of you.
• 1:08:13
  There's eight, nine
• 1:08:15
  car links between them
• 1:08:16
  and the vehicle in front
• 1:08:17
  of it, and it keeps growing.
• 1:08:20
  And you're behind them
• 1:08:20
  for five, 10, 15 minutes.
• 1:08:22
  And now suddenly
• 1:08:23
  there's a quarter mile gap
• 1:08:25
  that's in front of this person and you
• 1:08:26
  can't figure out why.
• 1:08:28
  Okay, look, I like to do 47 in the 35.
• 1:08:31
  Maybe that's just me.
• 1:08:33
  I'm typically going five, 10, 15 miles
• 1:08:35
  over the speed limit
• 1:08:36
  just because I got a lead foot.
• 1:08:38
  It's the way I was raised.
• 1:08:39
  It's the way I grew up.
• 1:08:40
  It's the way I am.
• 1:08:40
  It's the way I drive.
• 1:08:41
  You don't like it,
• 1:08:42
  (beep)
• 1:08:42
  you.
• 1:08:43
  So if you're one of these
• 1:08:44
  people that I'm behind you
• 1:08:46
  and maybe I'm pushing you a little bit,
• 1:08:49
  maybe I'm crowding you a little bit.
• 1:08:50
  Maybe I flash the
• 1:08:51
  lights a couple of times.
• 1:08:52
  Hey buddy, it's time
• 1:08:53
  to push the skinny pill.
• 1:08:54
  Get out of the way.
• 1:08:55
  Okay, so let's say there's
• 1:08:57
  two lanes of traffic going on
• 1:08:58
  and same sort of thing going on.
• 1:09:01
  I move over to make
• 1:09:03
  that passing maneuver,
• 1:09:04
  start that passing maneuver.
• 1:09:06
  And you start speeding up
• 1:09:07
  by 10, 15, 20 miles an hour.
• 1:09:10
  (beep)
• 1:09:11
  you, you
• 1:09:12
  (beep)
• 1:09:13
  Where was that gas pedal
• 1:09:14
  when you were five miles ago
• 1:09:17
  stuck behind you doing 27 in the 35.
• 1:09:20
  Seriously, when you're doing 27 in a 45,
• 1:09:23
  I'm gonna start honking my
• 1:09:24
  horn and flashing my lights.
• 1:09:26
  If you're an idiot that can't read the
• 1:09:27
  (beep)
• 1:09:28
  sign
• 1:09:28
  and I'll do this, I'll
• 1:09:29
  point to the speed sign.
• 1:09:30
  Look, four, five
• 1:09:32
  (beep)
• 1:09:33
  and you're doing 27, move the
• 1:09:35
  (beep)
• 1:09:36
  out of the way.
• 1:09:36
  And oh, now you're
• 1:09:38
  gonna find your lead foot.
• 1:09:39
  You're gonna find that skinny pedal.
• 1:09:41
  When I get up next to you,
• 1:09:43
  I'm not gonna flip you off.
• 1:09:44
  I'm not gonna do any
• 1:09:45
  big aggressive maneuvers
• 1:09:46
  trying to, you know,
• 1:09:47
  bring you off the road
• 1:09:48
  or anything like that.
• 1:09:49
  I may be
• 1:09:49
  (beep)
• 1:09:50
  off.
• 1:09:51
  I may be shaking my fist a little bit.
• 1:09:53
  I may look at you with
• 1:09:54
  a mean mug on my face,
• 1:09:55
  but look, you're the one
• 1:09:57
  that's part of the problem.
• 1:09:57
  You're going under the speed limit.
• 1:10:00
  I understand that people may be scared
• 1:10:02
  of other vehicles
• 1:10:03
  around them and whatnot.
• 1:10:04
  Maybe you just shouldn't drive, okay?
• 1:10:05
  Sell your
• 1:10:06
  (beep)
• 1:10:06
  car, take Uber.
• 1:10:07
  I don't give a
• 1:10:08
  (beep)
• 1:10:08
  there's plenty of taxi
• 1:10:09
  services out there to begin with.
• 1:10:10
  So there's lots of ways
• 1:10:12
  for you to get from point A
• 1:10:13
  to point B and going 15 miles an hour
• 1:10:15
  under the posted speed limit is not the
• 1:10:18
  way we do that, okay?
• 1:10:19
  So if somebody starts to pass you
• 1:10:22
  and you obviously have a
• 1:10:23
  lot of room in front of you
• 1:10:25
  to the next car, or you've been going
• 1:10:26
  under the speed limit,
• 1:10:28
  well, don't get
• 1:10:28
  (beep)
• 1:10:29
  off and suddenly try to accelerate
• 1:10:30
  when somebody's trying to pass you.
• 1:10:32
  You're being a
• 1:10:32
  (beep)
• 1:10:33
  so
• 1:10:34
  (beep)
• 1:10:34
  you, you
• 1:10:34
  (beep)
• 1:10:35
  for going so
• 1:10:36
  (beep)
• 1:10:36
  slow under the speed limit.
• 1:10:38
  And then finally
• 1:10:39
  finding your acceleration
• 1:10:41
  when somebody over the
• 1:10:42
  entire lane of traffic
• 1:10:43
  starts passing you.
• 1:10:44
  You got seven cars that
• 1:10:45
  are all honking at you.
• 1:10:46
  Maybe you're doing something wrong,
• 1:10:47
  (beep)
• 1:10:50
  Okay, I'm getting a little heated here.
• 1:10:52
  All right, Josh, another fun episode.
• 1:10:54
  It's great.
• 1:10:55
  I keep saying it's
• 1:10:56
  great to have you back here.
• 1:10:57
  You've been gone for so long.
• 1:10:58
  It's just nice being able to record and
• 1:11:01
  talk with you again.
• 1:11:02
  And hopefully all of
• 1:11:04
  our viewers and listeners
• 1:11:06
  are liking it as well.
• 1:11:08
  Like I told you, we've had
• 1:11:09
  several people comment on
• 1:11:11
  is Josh really back?
• 1:11:12
  Reminds me of the John
• 1:11:14
  Wick thing where he goes,
• 1:11:15
  yeah, yeah, I think I'm back.
• 1:11:17
  (laughs)
• 1:11:18
  Yeah, I'm back.
• 1:11:22
  (laughs)
• 1:11:22
  All right, so join us again next week.
• 1:11:24
  Speaking of XJs.
• 1:11:26
  What's that?
• 1:11:26
  Oh, you see one?
• 1:11:27
  Well, I just, sorry, I just
• 1:11:28
  pulled in this parking lot.
• 1:11:31
  Here, I'm just gonna grab
• 1:11:32
  the camera here real quick.
• 1:11:33
  Sure.
• 1:11:34
  Can I switch the camera?
• 1:11:36
  I can switch the camera and,
• 1:11:39
  oh, that's not switching the camera.
• 1:11:40
  Here, we'll look at it like that.
• 1:11:41
  There, there's a nice XJ bill.
• 1:11:44
  He's got a decent, oh,
• 1:11:45
  anorock set up on there.
• 1:11:47
  Long arm kit.
• 1:11:49
  This looks like some flat
• 1:11:51
  fenders and stuff as well.
• 1:11:52
  It's blue, right?
• 1:11:53
  Yeah, I'll take that
• 1:11:53
  XJ any day of the week.
• 1:11:55
  Sure.
• 1:11:55
  And it's blue.
• 1:11:56
  See if it's locked.
• 1:12:01
  So who's this guy over here in this truck
• 1:12:03
  looking at my Jeep?
• 1:12:05
  That's funny stuff.
• 1:12:06
  Well, I think a lot of
• 1:12:07
  us modified Jeep owners
• 1:12:08
  are used to people looking at our Jeeps.
• 1:12:11
  All right, Josh, let's wrap this up.
• 1:12:13
  We'll see you again next week.
• 1:12:15
  Thank you for being here with us,
• 1:12:17
  especially
• 1:12:17
  considering you have to do a job
• 1:12:19
  and make time to record stuff,
• 1:12:22
  which we really appreciate.
• 1:12:25
  All right, so are you--
• 1:12:26
  Speaking of making time, Tony,
• 1:12:28
  I just wanna put a
• 1:12:30
  plug out there if I can.
• 1:12:31
  As we're kind of going back
• 1:12:33
  and revisiting some
• 1:12:34
  of these older episodes
• 1:12:35
  and reliving some of
• 1:12:36
  these moments and stuff,
• 1:12:38
  just that first clip
• 1:12:39
  when somebody had called in
• 1:12:41
  to the XJ talk show way back in the day,
• 1:12:44
  it had me thinking of,
• 1:12:45
  well, we've got the ability now
• 1:12:47
  for people to not
• 1:12:48
  only call into the show,
• 1:12:50
  not only leave a voicemail,
• 1:12:51
  but leave a video voicemail.
• 1:12:53
  And so let's say you're in
• 1:12:55
  the midst of a build right now,
• 1:12:56
  or there's something on your Jeep that
• 1:12:58
  you're thinking about,
• 1:12:59
  or maybe you're in the store
• 1:13:00
  and you're thinking
• 1:13:01
  about this particular kit
• 1:13:02
  or these particular shocks,
• 1:13:03
  or maybe those particular tires.
• 1:13:06
  Why not head over to
• 1:13:07
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• 1:13:10
  Do that right now while you're in doing
• 1:13:12
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• 1:13:13
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• 1:13:16
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• 1:13:18
  Maybe even show what you're working on.
• 1:13:19
  We can talk about it.
• 1:13:21
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• 1:13:23
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• 1:13:25
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• 1:13:26
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• 1:13:27
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• 1:13:29
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• 1:13:30
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• 1:13:32
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• 1:13:33
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• 1:13:36
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• 1:13:37
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• 1:13:38
  So get involved with the
• 1:13:40
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• 1:13:41
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• 1:13:43
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• 1:13:44
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• 1:13:45
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• 1:13:46
  Let's all become happy Jeep
• 1:13:48
  world people together, huh?
• 1:13:49
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• 1:13:52
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• 1:13:54
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• 1:14:36
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• 1:14:41
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• 1:14:42
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• 1:14:45
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• 1:14:47
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