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39 | "K." · You Didn't Ask For This

• 0:00
  Matt: I don't know that we have spent enough time investigating the antics of the magic school bus.
• 0:08
  Eric: Please continue immediately.
• 0:10
  Matt: I recently saw a picture from the famous episode where the magic school bus goes inside uh what's his name?
• 0:18
  Matt: The redhead's body.
• 0:19
  Eric: Arnold.
• 0:20
  Matt: Arnold, yes, they go inside Arnold's body.
• 0:23
  Matt: You remember the one?
• 0:24
  Eric: Oh yes.
• 0:24
  Eric: There was uh my most memorable school magic school bus memories, most of them revolve around Arnold in various horrific ways.
• 0:32
  Matt: I think that's a main plot point of the series, really.
• 0:36
  Matt: Yes.
• 0:37
  Matt: But here's my thing.
• 0:38
  Matt: This is an educational tool to learn about the body, right?
• 0:42
  Matt: And witchcraft, but yes.
• 0:44
  Matt: Sure, and witchcraft, of course.
• 0:45
  Matt: But like, let me ask you this, okay?
• 0:48
  Matt: What did that episode?
• 0:50
  Matt: I don't remember that episode talking about how exhaust fumes from a school bus affect the liver that it is going through.
• 1:00
  Eric: Oh, okay.
• 1:01
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:01
  Eric: This kid's got carbon emissions in all up in his j- all you know, up in his in his in his goo, in his organs.
• 1:07
  Matt: All throughout it.
• 1:08
  Matt: Like his uh he's definitely got cancer.
• 1:12
  Matt: Arnold has cancer.
• 1:13
  Matt: There's no way he doesn't.
• 1:14
  Eric: Or at the very least, like he's gonna go to the doctor, he's like, he goes to his pediatrician.
• 1:19
  Eric: His pediatrician's like, Arnold, you have the lungs of a chain smoker.
• 1:23
  Matt: We just did a ultrasound, and it looks like you have tire tracks on your lungs?
• 1:31
  Matt: Antifreeze in your pancreas.
• 1:34
  Matt: Oh my god.
• 1:35
  Matt: The the and then the response is, of course, well, uh, my teacher drove the bus through me and she got and the doctor's gonna have to say, well, someone needs to tell Miss Frizzle her antifreeze is leaking out of the hood of this bus.
• 1:49
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:50
  Matt: So does the magic school bus have this?
• 1:52
  Matt: We don't usually start in the cold open with a question, but does this does it does part of the magic properties include like magic magic emissions?
• 2:03
  Eric: Magic elimination of emissions, yes.
• 2:05
  Eric: Uh yeah, because it definitely has like um you watch it when like the magic school, like you know, call me out if I'm crazy, but when the magic school bus like pulls out, I feel like in the opening theme, it's like clearly there's pumping exhaust out of its iPhone.
• 2:19
  Eric: I feel like I remember exhaust bus.
• 2:21
  Eric: I feel like I remember that, and because I I feel like I remember it, that is what my memory is, and that is what is my truth.
• 2:28
  Matt: But is are those exhaust clouds just like uh you know, for effect?
• 2:34
  Matt: Like they they contain nothing, like how um when in I this is real niche, but when Vader steps out onto the dock of the ship in Rogue One, do you remember this scene?
• 2:47
  Matt: Yeah, his cape bellows, but there is no wind in space.
• 2:52
  Matt: And so one person could easily say, Oh, that's an oversight, right?
• 2:56
  Matt: Because there's also no explosions and sounds in space, but nevertheless, Star Wars has those.
• 3:00
  Matt: Yes.
• 3:01
  Matt: But what I think it means is Vader is using the force to be super extra and ensure that his cape is dramatically bellowing in the non-existent wind.
• 3:11
  Matt: Is this that situation where Miss Frizzle's like, I want to make sure a puff of smoke comes out of my bus.
• 3:18
  Eric: Whatever entity which calls itself Miss Frizzle.
• 3:24
  Eric: Yes, the demigod Miss Frizzle.
• 3:26
  Eric: Yeah, the time lord, what have you.
• 3:30
  Eric: I think I think that's all for our benefit.
• 3:33
  Eric: I think it's purely I think that's the reason the for the school bus, you know, disguise for her for whatever the bus is.
• 3:43
  Eric: I think that's for the benefit of the psyche of the children because they are regularly being put through fairly traumatic experiences vis-a-vis Arnold.
• 3:52
  Eric: Um so I think like she has to kind of pad the reality wherever she can to like give them an anchor that they can hold on to.
• 4:02
  Eric: I think the exhaust coming out of the magic school bus is one of those anchors.
• 4:08
  Eric: It's it's kind of like their their little thread of of normality in these legitimately horrifying situations they're put in.
• 4:16
  Matt: The role you were describing of Miss Frizzle sounds very suspiciously like a trip guide.
• 4:24
  Matt: And that to me makes me ask the question Is the magic school bus an hallucinogen?
• 4:31
  Eric: It it does carry most, uh it does carry a lot of the characteristics of like an ayahuasca trip, um, which are ayahuasca trips are like noted by their uh very upsetting parts.
• 4:45
  Eric: Like it's it's kind of like a uh a major part about it.
• 4:48
  Eric: It's like you know, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're in for a rough ride, but when you come out of the other side, you will have gained insight and knowledge that you didn't have before, and you'll be grateful for it.
• 4:59
  Matt: Will you or will you have cancer and be in a padded room?
• 5:02
  Eric: Unless you're Arnold.
• 5:03
  Eric: Arnold, Arnold is not coming out of this okay.
• 5:05
  Eric: He I think I feel like he's almost the control.
• 5:09
  Eric: Like, I feel like all the other kids were picked because you know they have some sort of leaning towards curiosity or innovation or playfulness.
• 5:18
  Eric: And Arnold, I feel like they're like, let's we need a control child to to kind of like gauge.
• 5:24
  Eric: Miss Frizzle uses Arnold to see how far she can push before the other kids start breaking.
• 5:29
  Matt: Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying.
• 5:31
  Matt: What you're saying is Miss Frizzle is an MK Ultra Agent, and that the Magic School Bus is a Manchurian candidate like experimentation, and that these children have been forever warped.
• 5:44
  Eric: Is that right?
• 5:45
  Eric: Hong Kong, my man.
• 5:47
  Eric: Ooh.
• 5:47
  Eric: That's all I'll say, Hong Kong.
• 6:05
  Matt: Well, hello there, and welcome to You Didn't Ask for This, a podcast answering life's least pressing questions.
• 6:13
  Matt: My name's Matthew Shea.
• 6:15
  Eric: My name is Eric Poach.
• 6:17
  Eric: Nice use of full name, Matthew Shea.
• 6:19
  Matt: Yes, thank you.
• 6:20
  Matt: Uh I I thought I'd slip it in.
• 6:22
  Matt: It is what I it is what I go by in the the acting world, of course, because there is another Matt Shea in SAG.
• 6:31
  Matt: But now the crazy Matt Shea from uh Washington State, who was at one point state representative and is now like abducting children under the guise of adopting them from the Ukraine.
• 6:44
  Matt: Um, he is Matt Shea, and he, of course, he just created a podcast.
• 6:48
  Eric: Um This is wait, that's half that's happening.
• 6:50
  Matt: That's real.
• 6:51
  Matt: That's all real.
• 6:51
  Matt: That's all I everything I just said is real.
• 6:54
  Matt: Um and I'm not gonna say the name of his podcast.
• 6:56
  Matt: Matthew, I'm sorry.
• 6:58
  Matt: Don't go there.
• 6:58
  Matt: Yeah, no, he blows up my Google result, my Google alerts.
• 7:02
  Matt: It's terrible.
• 7:03
  Matt: So I thought I'd slip it in there and it would go unnoticed, but um you didn't let me down.
• 7:08
  Matt: You were right there.
• 7:08
  Matt: Got you, babe.
• 7:09
  Matt: You you got it.
• 7:10
  Matt: Got you, Matt.
• 7:11
  Matt: Uh so has anybody uh tried to steal your identity as a podcaster?
• 7:16
  Eric: No, not a lot of Eric Pox out there.
• 7:21
  Eric: Uh I I I Google my name every now and then.
• 7:24
  Eric: Apparently, I'm a school administrator out in like Michigan.
• 7:28
  Eric: Um that's about the extent of it.
• 7:30
  Matt: Nice, nice.
• 7:32
  Matt: Yeah, I've had a series of like high school athletes pop up in my Google alerts.
• 7:37
  Matt: But those are not me.
• 7:38
  Matt: It should be obvious by the very fact that I said athlete that um that eliminates me from that pool.
• 7:44
  Eric: Matt, your middle name is David.
• 7:50
  Matt: I'm not at liberty to disclose that information.
• 7:52
  Matt: Okay.
• 7:53
  Eric: Well, I was I was gonna ask David.
• 7:55
  Eric: Yeah, I got it.
• 7:56
  Eric: Okay, good.
• 7:57
  Eric: Uh, because like you could start see see if if if Matt David Shea that does have a nice I've thought about that.
• 8:04
  Matt: I've thought about Matthew David Shea the whole thing.
• 8:06
  Eric: I've thought about just David Shea.
• 8:08
  Eric: He's got some Brian David Gilbert energy to it.
• 8:10
  Matt: Oh, BDG.
• 8:12
  Matt: Ah, man.
• 8:13
  Matt: Knew him when.
• 8:14
  Matt: Friend of the pod.
• 8:15
  Matt: He doesn't know it, but he's liked a few of our posts at a point in time on Instagram, I think.
• 8:22
  Eric: Uh you could also do Matt D Shea, but that Matt De Shea.
• 8:26
  Eric: Matt De Shea, if you threw like a fucking uh apostrophe in front of uh, because I know it used to be the O'Shays.
• 8:35
  Matt: Yeah, but I'm like a long time ago.
• 8:37
  Matt: But you know, I'm getting, but the thing is about this, and I know this is pride, and I know that's stupid, but I am getting a little bit of the Michael Bolton thing from Office Space.
• 8:48
  Matt: Oh yeah.
• 8:49
  Matt: Where it's like, why should I change?
• 8:51
  Matt: He's the one that sucks.
• 8:52
  Matt: It's true, it's true.
• 8:54
  Matt: Anyway, he does suck.
• 8:56
  Matt: Don't look him up.
• 8:56
  Matt: Uh do not Google him.
• 8:58
  Matt: Yes, stay with me.
• 9:00
  Matt: Stay with me in this, the chosen one.
• 9:05
  Eric: God damn.
• 9:06
  Matt: Uh, Eric, shall we jump into some questions?
• 9:09
  Eric: All right.
• 9:09
  Eric: So we're feeling, we're feeling fresh, we're feeling fine, we're feeling episode 39.
• 9:14
  Eric: Nice.
• 9:14
  Eric: Uh let's kick it off with what is the most unethical use of a PowerPoint presentation?
• 9:22
  Matt: You know, I gotta say, this question, as the young people, I think, said, I think they're already past it, slaps.
• 9:29
  Eric: This question slaps.
• 9:30
  Matt: This question slaps.
• 9:31
  Matt: And it's especially relevant.
• 9:33
  Matt: I haven't done one of these, but I've wanted to.
• 9:35
  Matt: Uh these you know these like uh PowerPoint parties that people are doing.
• 9:41
  Matt: Do you know that about this trend?
• 9:43
  Eric: Nah, like do they do they give do they just do presentations?
• 9:47
  Matt: Yeah, you like show up to uh you know, you you all come to the living room and each of you come up and present a PowerPoint presentation, but they all like about nothing, like you know, ranking your exes or like analyzing some minutiae.
• 10:04
  Matt: I don't know.
• 10:05
  Eric: But like I have played the game.
• 10:07
  Eric: Uh have you are you familiar with Jackbox?
• 10:09
  Eric: Mm-hmm.
• 10:10
  Eric: There is a Jackbox game, it's in one of them where it's a PowerPoint presentation game, like a base basically a TED talk game.
• 10:17
  Matt: I don't think I've played that one yet.
• 10:19
  Eric: You are you are assigned, you are a player gives a presentation on slides they have not seen yet because another player is selecting the slides, yeah.
• 10:30
  Eric: That's and they have to talk to them as they pop up, and they're like they're given like a random uh uh like topic.
• 10:36
  Eric: It's it's really fun.
• 10:38
  Eric: That I feel like that's ethical ass use of PowerPoints because that's great.
• 10:41
  Matt: Yes, that reminds me of like the the Who's Line games of uh when they like uh everybody knows the scene except for one person, uh so they're trying to guess everybody.
• 10:53
  Matt: Like the those always bring me sex joy.
• 10:56
  Matt: But we're not talking about joy.
• 10:57
  Matt: We're talking about unethics.
• 10:59
  Matt: We're talking about pain, probably potentially pain.
• 11:03
  Matt: Potentially pain.
• 11:03
  Matt: Emotional or physical.
• 11:05
  Matt: Um probably emotional from PowerPoint.
• 11:08
  Matt: So there's a couple thoughts, I have a couple thoughts right off the bat.
• 11:10
  Matt: So let's get some easy things out of the way.
• 11:13
  Matt: I think if you're a dictator and you decide to use a PowerPoint presentation for anything, that's pretty unethical.
• 11:18
  Matt: Automatically unethical.
• 11:19
  Matt: Yeah, well, that that's unethical by proxy.
• 11:21
  Matt: But what but but that's like an extending circumstance, yeah, you know, yeah, having the Mussolini PowerPoint in front of you.
• 11:28
  Matt: Yeah.
• 11:29
  Eric: No, yeah.
• 11:30
  Eric: I'm trying to approach it in my in my own mind as PowerPoint is a tool.
• 11:34
  Eric: What is the most unethical application of this tool?
• 11:37
  Matt: It could be like a passive aggressive thing.
• 11:40
  Matt: Like if you use a PowerPoint just to make a point, that's pretty shitty, isn't it?
• 11:48
  Matt: Like, can you imagine if somebody, if you showed up somewhere and like Oh, oh, if you used PowerPoint to win an argument that you got into.
• 11:56
  Matt: Yeah, and like those weren't the ground rules.
• 11:58
  Matt: Like, let's say you said, Hey, I wanted to talk to you about a couple things.
• 12:03
  Matt: And then, you know, like let's say this is I'm gonna put it in, make it real personal.
• 12:08
  Matt: Let's say it's Sam that says this to you, right?
• 12:10
  Matt: Okay, you just come home and Sam Sam said, Hey, can I talk to you about something?
• 12:13
  Matt: And you say, Yeah, sure, what's up?
• 12:14
  Matt: And she loads up a PowerPoint presentation onto the TV, and you she goes, Okay, sit down.
• 12:22
  Matt: So I want to begin by addressing like what can you can you imagine?
• 12:27
  Eric: Like because PowerPoints have have like they have an enthralling quality about them, which cannot be explained because they're really fucking lame.
• 12:36
  Eric: Yeah, like they're like you feel compelled.
• 12:39
  Eric: Like, I think it's because we're indoctrinated in school and stuff that when you see a PowerPoint, you know to sit down and pay attention and take notes.
• 12:46
  Matt: Yes, which is what I think drives this trend of having these PowerPoint parties, because then it's it's playing off of that, right?
• 12:54
  Eric: Like non-consensual PowerPoints is definitely non-consensual PowerPoint, but what does that really look like?
• 13:01
  Matt: Is that just one person uh just just in a non-teacher role or instructor role, just like yeah, thrusting a PowerPoint presentation at me?
• 13:11
  Eric: Unless your name is at the top of my fucking syllabus, I have not empowered you to give me a PowerPoint.
• 13:17
  Matt: Is it unethical?
• 13:18
  Matt: I mentioned it as uh in passing with the passive aggressive thing as being like intervention-like.
• 13:23
  Matt: If you used a PowerPoint in an intervention, is that ethical or unethical?
• 13:29
  Matt: Because in theory it's for an ethical reason, but like that feels a little bit too far.
• 13:33
  Matt: It feels a little too formal.
• 13:35
  Matt: I've never been a part of an intervention, though, so I don't know.
• 13:37
  Eric: I've never been part of an intervention.
• 13:39
  Eric: I don't think I feel like if I was in an intervention and I would and I was getting a PowerPoint, I'd feel like insulted.
• 13:49
  Eric: I've really hit hot rock bottom, is what I've seen.
• 13:51
  Eric: I I've I'm like, man, I must have really hit rock bottom.
• 13:54
  Eric: Also, they made a graph.
• 13:56
  Eric: A PowerPoint.
• 13:57
  Eric: Yeah.
• 13:58
  Eric: Oh, you used clip art to explain my my addiction to me.
• 14:01
  Matt: Well, it might not be addiction, you know.
• 14:03
  Matt: We might be the receivers of like a uh podcasting intervention at some point.
• 14:07
  Eric: How about this?
• 14:08
  Eric: You work for Google.
• 14:10
  Matt: Okay.
• 14:11
  Eric: Right?
• 14:11
  Eric: You're in the you're in the Google Slides department.
• 14:14
  Eric: Sure.
• 14:15
  Eric: But your weekly, like your weekly agile meeting or scrums, they use PowerPoint to communicate.
• 14:22
  Eric: Like if you're if you're like working for Google Slides, they use PowerPoint.
• 14:28
  Matt: Or you work at like Canva.
• 14:30
  Matt: Canva.
• 14:31
  Eric: Can Canva, yeah.
• 14:32
  Eric: Canva.
• 14:34
  Matt: I was saying Canva, but it's definitely Canva because it's supposed to be Canvas.
• 14:39
  Matt: But nevertheless.
• 14:40
  Matt: But yeah, if you're using that, if that's what you work for and somebody's like, yeah, here's the thing.
• 14:45
  Matt: But I understand that because there's no way the people who at Google uh share things exclusively through Google Sheets.
• 14:52
  Matt: I mean, I'm sure they do, but as I was already said, go back it for that diatribe.
• 14:57
  Matt: But Excel it runs rings around Google Sheets.
• 15:01
  Eric: Uh I I will say by virtue of my job, which I will not name, nor will I name my position, other than I teach things.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 15:11
  Eric: You're a wizard.
• 15:12
  Eric: I am a wizard.
• 15:14
  Eric: Uh I get to witness unethical use of PowerPoints all the time.
• 15:18
  Matt: Uh one of my favorite You mean subject matter.
• 15:22
  Eric: Yes.
• 15:23
  Eric: I am what what is known as a subject matter expert.
• 15:27
  Eric: And apparently the definition of subject matter expert is you just happen to be in possession of the PowerPoint that is a that is a like cop carbon copy of a fucking technical manual.
• 15:38
  Eric: I see that so much, like I had there was an engineer where I work.
• 15:43
  Eric: It's like you guys should teach this, like you guys need to add more about this subject to your training.
• 15:48
  Eric: And we're like, all right, let's take a look.
• 15:50
  Eric: This dude wrote a fucking engineering textbook and converted it into PowerPoint format.
• 15:55
  Eric: And like when I say convert it, like like each slide was like eight-point font just packed to the gills with walls of fucking text.
• 16:09
  Matt: No.
• 16:09
  Matt: Well, so okay, wait a minute.
• 16:10
  Matt: Hold on.
• 16:11
  Matt: Is that unethical or is that just a shitty presentation?
• 16:14
  Eric: That's unethical because it's a shitty presentation, and he's in a position of power where people will have to sit through that if he wants that to be the case.
• 16:21
  Matt: Oh, so you're saying it's unethical because the person knows what he's done is create a light form of torture.
• 16:27
  Matt: Has to.
• 16:29
  Eric: There has to be a PowerPoint eth.
• 16:31
  Eric: Actually, it's a lot of educational design is basically boils down to PowerPoint ethics one-on-one.
• 16:37
  Eric: Like how to make a presentation that does not feel like you're having your fingernails ripped out.
• 16:43
  Matt: I think that we're getting somewhere.
• 16:44
  Matt: So I think that might be the l the the definition of what makes it unethical is if it is so unenjoyable that it's painful.
• 16:54
  Eric: Yeah.
• 16:55
  Matt: But also to prove like unethical points through the power of PowerPoint.
• 17:04
  Matt: But what it but the question is, what is the most unethical use of a PowerPoint?
• 17:09
  Matt: Most unethical use of PowerPoint.
• 17:12
  Matt: So is that to expand on it, is it to if you are full on intending to torture someone by purposely creating a mentally harmful PowerPoint presentation?
• 17:25
  Eric: I think I'm honing in on it.
• 17:27
  Eric: All right, take us there.
• 17:28
  Eric: So you most unethical, because I've also witnessed this where you have a PowerPoint, right?
• 17:33
  Eric: Right.
• 17:34
  Eric: And this PowerPoint is critical to you advancing to some next step.
• 17:40
  Eric: Let's say it's passing an exam.
• 17:41
  Eric: Let's say it's getting like getting a job.
• 17:45
  Eric: And I see this so much where the PowerPoint slides themselves contain a lot of information.
• 17:53
  Eric: None of it is the information you absolutely must have.
• 17:57
  Eric: Okay.
• 17:57
  Eric: None of it's the critical shit.
• 17:59
  Eric: That shit's all being just said by the person giving the PowerPoint presentation.
• 18:04
  Eric: Yes, classic college lecture.
• 18:06
  Eric: At that point, the presentation was just an excuse for you to have something on the board while you rambled about the shit I needed to know about.
• 18:16
  Matt: So yeah, you're saying if there was a world where as soon as the PowerPoint was finished, you were given a quiz or a test.
• 18:26
  Matt: Yeah.
• 18:26
  Matt: And the information on that test was said said exclusively by the the presentation, the voice, the presenter.
• 18:35
  Eric: Yes.
• 18:35
  Matt: And that is more unethical to you than a purposeful torture device through PowerPoint.
• 18:40
  Eric: Oh yeah, because it's gatekeeping.
• 18:42
  Eric: I'm like, torture, I don't have to sit through, I don't have to sit through this.
• 18:46
  Eric: Like if they're tortured, I'm like, I'm like, damn it, if you're if I have to go take a test after this, I I I have skin in the game.
• 18:55
  Eric: Interesting.
• 18:56
  Eric: Here's where I'm landing, Matt.
• 18:57
  Eric: You ready for it?
• 18:57
  Eric: I'm ready.
• 18:58
  Eric: What is the most unethical use of PowerPoint?
• 19:00
  Eric: I'm ready.
• 19:01
  Eric: Yes.
• 19:03
  Eric: Huh?
• 19:04
  Eric: PowerPoint's unethical.
• 19:06
  Eric: I'm trying to think of an ethical I'm trying to think of a I'm trying to think of a one time I was happy to see a PowerPoint presentation.
• 19:13
  Matt: Well, probably these parties.
• 19:14
  Matt: But is that is that not the voice of a revolution?
• 19:18
  Matt: Is that not the voice of the oppressed rising up and taking the tools of oppression and turning it around and saying, no, this is we're using it now to get drunk.
• 19:29
  Eric: Yeah, no, that's good.
• 19:30
  Eric: We have nothing to lose except our slides.
• 19:33
  Matt: But so but but yes, by saying that, what is the mo so you're saying what is the most unethical use of a PowerPoint presentation?
• 19:39
  Matt: You're saying there is no ethical use in its in its normal form.
• 19:45
  Eric: In its normal form.
• 19:46
  Eric: I think I think I think PowerPoints, we've reached the point where PowerPoint needs to be reclaimed, and it looks like it is being ironically reclaimed by by the the party rock in the house tonight youths.
• 19:59
  Matt: Let me ask you this.
• 20:00
  Matt: Okay.
• 20:01
  Matt: If we were to have a PowerPoint presentation, no no planning whatsoever, first thing comes to mind, what's your presentation on to me?
• 20:07
  Eric: My Sorry, I know you said no thinking, but now I'm thinking super hard around.
• 20:12
  Matt: You are thinking about it.
• 20:13
  Eric: I know.
• 20:16
  Eric: My PowerPoint would probably be it would probably center entirely around how often we don't need to listen to another human being to have information conveyed to us.
• 20:28
  Matt: Oh, that's what you want to say on this podcast.
• 20:31
  Matt: That's great.
• 20:32
  Eric: Yeah.
• 20:42
  Eric: You know, so and so because very often with with PowerPoints, it kind of boils down out.
• 20:46
  Eric: I'm like, oh, so I didn't need you, the person reading, essentially reading the PowerPoint to me to be here.
• 20:52
  Eric: You could have just sent me this PowerPoint and I would have had all the information I needed.
• 20:56
  Eric: Interesting.
• 20:57
  Eric: And I'm gonna do a PowerPoint on that, and that's how I'm gonna do it ethically, because I'm not gonna do anything.
• 21:03
  Eric: I'm just gonna send them the PowerPoint.
• 21:05
  Matt: See, the first just you didn't ask uh what I would do for my presentation to you, but a few that are just jumping to mind is I could do one on the pros and cons of different strategies in Survivor.
• 21:18
  Matt: I could do one on how I don't believe nuts have any business being involved with ice cream.
• 21:24
  Matt: Uh I could do one on, you see, like this is what this is what I go to.
• 21:29
  Matt: Like I can give you slides on why nuts don't belong in cream.
• 21:37
  Matt: Come on, it's sitting right there.
• 21:38
  Eric: Make your own joke here, folks.
• 21:40
  Eric: Ah well, I did have praline ice cream last night.
• 21:44
  Eric: I actually did have one not too long ago, and I thought to myself, Wow, this would do known hypocrite Matt Shea giving TED talks on nuts and cream and then eating creamy nuts.
• 21:54
  Matt: Yeah, it's called Eric, it's called collecting evidence.
• 21:57
  Matt: It's called research.
• 21:59
  Matt: You should.
• 22:00
  Matt: Try it sometime, okay?
• 22:02
  Matt: Wow.
• 22:02
  Matt: All right.
• 22:03
  Matt: Wow.
• 22:04
  Matt: Next slide.
• 22:04
  Matt: I next slide.
• 22:05
  Matt: I try.
• 22:06
  Matt: Next slide.
• 22:07
  Matt: Next slide.
• 22:08
  Matt: Okay.
• 22:10
  Eric: That okay.
• 22:11
  Eric: Actually, I think I have a new contender for the most unethical use of PowerPoint.
• 22:16
  Eric: If you're giving a PowerPoint presentation, your ass needs to be in charge of when the slides move.
• 22:21
  Eric: I hate.
• 22:21
  Eric: I hate the person.
• 22:24
  Matt: I can't say anything specific either.
• 22:28
  Matt: But I hate a work presentation where the person is constantly saying to some unseen producer.
• 22:35
  Eric: Next slide.
• 22:36
  Eric: Next slide.
• 22:37
  Eric: Because what that person has essentially said is the person who's in charge of doing the little the little the little button press, you're not important enough to need to write any of this down.
• 22:46
  Eric: Or, you know, maybe my you're going to be my lackey.
• 22:50
  Eric: And next slide.
• 22:51
  Eric: And thank you.
• 22:52
  Eric: Next slide.
• 22:53
  Matt: And at the same time, I'm too important to be able to push the right arrow button.
• 22:58
  Eric: Oh no, I can't.
• 22:59
  Eric: I have to focus.
• 23:01
  Eric: I need full range of my hands.
• 23:03
  Eric: Oh, we found it.
• 23:04
  Eric: We found it.
• 23:04
  Eric: Most unethical use of PowerPoint, and it's one of the most common, is getting a fu having some poor bastard be your slide lackey.
• 23:11
  Eric: Next slide.
• 23:12
  Matt: Yes.
• 23:12
  Matt: And and I think we should next slide onto the next question, but I do think you got it.
• 23:17
  Eric: That was good transition.
• 23:18
  Matt: I think you got it right there at the end.
• 23:20
  Eric: Yeah, we found it.
• 23:21
  Eric: We found it.
• 23:22
  Matt: All right.
• 23:22
  Matt: So let's the next next slide right into this question.
• 23:25
  Matt: And this is this is a similar feel of moving on to the next slide.
• 23:30
  Matt: How do you get a guest to leave your house?
• 23:34
  Eric: Oh, juicy, juicy, juicy.
• 23:37
  Eric: Tale as old as time.
• 23:38
  Eric: And let's establish right off the bat.
• 23:40
  Eric: Let's work from the assumption that this is in fact a guest.
• 23:44
  Eric: Yes.
• 23:44
  Eric: This is someone you like.
• 23:46
  Eric: You feel like someone you're go you're going to want, you're going to continue having a nice relationship with people.
• 23:53
  Matt: Your friends are over for a dinner party or drinks or whatever.
• 23:58
  Matt: And you no longer want to host them.
• 24:02
  Matt: No.
• 24:02
  Eric: That's all we're talking about.
• 24:04
  Eric: And let's hone in on even more, because I would exclude like my closest friends, like with you or or or my friends, you know, uh my friend Joey or Pat and Alyssa, like these are all like my my my super tight group of friends.
• 24:20
  Eric: Yeah.
• 24:20
  Eric: These are all people that I have no problem and they have no problem me going, all right, I'm tired, get the fuck out of my house.
• 24:26
  Eric: Sure.
• 24:26
  Eric: But let's let's get to let's say we're down at the the in-law level.
• 24:32
  Matt: But you don't do that, do you?
• 24:33
  Matt: You don't really say, get the fuck out of my house.
• 24:36
  Matt: You say, you do, because this is what I was gonna say.
• 24:39
  Matt: I feel like a staple is like a oh yeah, oh, it's uh well it's sure it's getting on there.
• 24:46
  Matt: Oh, I'm falling asleep over here.
• 24:48
  Matt: Oh what time is it?
• 24:50
  Matt: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:51
  Matt: But that that I'm assuming you do some version of that as opposed to, all right, get out.
• 24:55
  Eric: Get the fuck out.
• 24:56
  Eric: Um right?
• 24:57
  Eric: Or no, I won't be that.
• 24:58
  Eric: I'll I'll usually say, I'm like, all right, it's late, I'm tired, I love you all.
• 25:02
  Eric: But you gotta be like, all right, peace.
• 25:04
  Matt: Yeah, there are people that I'd be comfortable saying, like, okay, you gotta go.
• 25:09
  Eric: But that everyone has that, like, people have those people they're close that they're gonna be able to do.
• 25:13
  Eric: No, we're talking about the we're talking about the people you can't say that to.
• 25:16
  Eric: We're talking about the people you can't.
• 25:18
  Eric: We're talking about, you know, your significant other's fucking f family members.
• 25:24
  Matt: Right.
• 25:25
  Matt: You do or or you know, you just like you had a bunch of like you had a big party, say, and oh yeah, or someone's hanging, like everyone's left, but like there's like a little there's like four to eight people just kind of hanging out still, but it's yeah, it's you know, long past your bedtime and you want everybody gone.
• 25:44
  Eric: Yeah.
• 25:45
  Matt: Yeah.
• 25:45
  Matt: So what what are some tactics you've employed?
• 25:48
  Eric: Uh in a party situation, I'll start cleaning.
• 25:54
  Eric: It's kind of like the Oscar music, like I start cleaning.
• 25:58
  Eric: Because is this is kind of great.
• 26:00
  Eric: One of two things is gonna happen when I when I start like cleaning stuff around people.
• 26:05
  Eric: Yeah, they're uh they're either gonna start helping me clean or they're gonna be like, oh, look at the time.
• 26:12
  Eric: Yeah, we should probably roll out of here.
• 26:14
  Eric: And then once the people are done helping me clean, they realize, all right, it's time to get the fuck out.
• 26:19
  Matt: The I feel like that's an interesting tactic because there is an escalation factor there.
• 26:25
  Matt: Like cleaning up things around the house is an is a good way to be like, and if somebody points it out, you can be like, oh yeah, I'm I was just straightening up a little bit, you know, like, but you know, collecting the beer cans or whatever and sweeping up chips or whatever.
• 26:40
  Matt: That's one thing.
• 26:41
  Matt: But you can escalate it.
• 26:43
  Matt: If they don't get the hint, you can go up to somebody who, like, let's say they take a sip out of their beer and they put it down, you can go right up to that beer can and go, You done with this?
• 26:52
  Eric: Classic.
• 26:53
  Eric: Classic.
• 26:54
  Eric: Are you done with this?
• 26:54
  Eric: You done with that?
• 26:55
  Matt: Uh oh, do you want me to that is that is the direct attack of get at it.
• 27:00
  Matt: That is oh yeah.
• 27:01
  Matt: I also think there's if you are in a couple situation, yeah, you know, you are not the sole host, there's a there's a co-host involved.
• 27:11
  Matt: I feel like if one of you does a complete retreat, that is also a version.
• 27:20
  Matt: Like if somebody is suddenly starts working on a computer.
• 27:24
  Eric: Oh wow, yeah.
• 27:25
  Eric: That is like the that is like the water in the face, like, oh, oh, this is a house.
• 27:30
  Matt: This is someone's home.
• 27:31
  Matt: But you can also play off each other, right?
• 27:33
  Matt: You can also be like, you know, uh, you guys can hang out if you want.
• 27:37
  Matt: I think I gotta turn in, you know, I gotta get up early for work.
• 27:40
  Matt: Like regardless, and I can't stress this enough, regardless of if that's true.
• 27:46
  Eric: Exactly.
• 27:46
  Eric: I'm like, I'm probably just gonna go lay upstairs in the dark and look at my phone, but y'all figured this out.
• 27:52
  Eric: And that's also nice because it puts people in the mindset of like, oh shit, we're in charge now.
• 27:56
  Eric: Uh, two, and like they're they're either gonna like start like being very mindful of that.
• 28:01
  Eric: Like, I feel like anything past like 10 or 15 minutes after the host has gone to bed, you just you're in the place of like, oh yeah, we should we should be gone.
• 28:09
  Matt: Well, one host, I don't I would never just allow my guests to just hang out unsupervised.
• 28:15
  Eric: Oh yeah.
• 28:16
  Eric: Oh, I have.
• 28:17
  Eric: I would.
• 28:17
  Eric: You would just if you have people over here.
• 28:19
  Eric: If they are people, I like if they're like if they're like people I'm super cool with.
• 28:23
  Eric: Oh, but then again, that would fall in that first category I was talking about.
• 28:27
  Eric: Yeah, and then a lot of them like, y'all can fucking pass out here for all I care.
• 28:31
  Eric: Do whatever the fuck you want.
• 28:33
  Eric: All right.
• 28:33
  Eric: I can't couch.
• 28:34
  Eric: I'll make sure they're I'll make sure they're they're they're fucking blank.
• 28:37
  Eric: Oh, that's another thing.
• 28:38
  Eric: If if you have, so say you're in like a large gathering situation and you know like one or maybe two people are going to be crashing at your place, maybe crashing on your couch, when you start setting up their sleeping area, and they're like when you start setting out the pillows, the blankets, people are like, oh because that's true.
• 28:56
  Matt: That well, but I think that's different.
• 28:58
  Matt: Like, because they're then that we're describing a situation where someone always intended or is just at a point where they can't leave, like they're too drunk or whatever.
• 29:08
  Matt: Yeah.
• 29:08
  Matt: If there's a pre-existing understanding that you're sp crashing there, yeah, then I think that's exempted, right?
• 29:16
  Matt: Like we're we're talking about a pure Well, I'm talking about everyone aside, like like this.
• 29:21
  Eric: Is like you've come over to a party at my place and beforehand you're like, hey, can I crash on your couch?
• 29:25
  Eric: And you're like, sure, dope.
• 29:27
  Eric: You're gonna be my you're gonna be my leverage.
• 29:29
  Eric: And it's like, oh, for everyone else.
• 29:30
  Eric: I'm gonna start making for everyone else to get the fuck out of my house.
• 29:33
  Matt: Yes, yeah, I that makes sense.
• 29:35
  Matt: I got you now.
• 29:36
  Matt: That's a good strategy, too.
• 29:37
  Matt: Wow, you're good at this.
• 29:39
  Eric: Thank you.
• 29:40
  Eric: You've kicked a lot of people out.
• 29:41
  Eric: But now let's let's let's dig a little more into the awkward weeds.
• 29:45
  Eric: Sure, why not?
• 29:46
  Eric: Because uh, let's say you're at your it's a family dinner kind of thing.
• 29:51
  Eric: Okay.
• 29:51
  Eric: You're hosting family dinner.
• 29:53
  Eric: Sure.
• 29:54
  Eric: And we've e we've entered that super weird phase.
• 29:58
  Eric: It's after like we've all eaten.
• 30:00
  Eric: There is no more dessert or wine or coffee to be served.
• 30:04
  Eric: Um, and we're just kind of making small talk, and it's entered that part where like there just keep being moments of prolonged silence while people are trying to think of what they should talk about next.
• 30:16
  Eric: Yeah.
• 30:17
  Eric: Because that is the time you cannot say, Oh, well, it's probably about time you guys left.
• 30:24
  Eric: That feels super awkward to me.
• 30:25
  Eric: But like, how do you start steering it towards that?
• 30:30
  Matt: Yeah, and I think that's I think that's what this is at the heart of this question, right?
• 30:34
  Matt: Because it is, I think, inherently awkward in this situation to be like, well, I think it's about time you guys leave.
• 30:42
  Matt: It is on the guest to excuse themselves.
• 30:47
  Matt: Absolutely.
• 30:49
  Matt: But it is the job what we're talking about is when you are the host and you how do you get them to do that?
• 30:55
  Matt: How do you get them to take the hint?
• 30:57
  Matt: And I think we've I think we've laid out some great options.
• 31:00
  Eric: We lay out some great options.
• 31:01
  Eric: I'll lay out one more option for this particular scenario.
• 31:04
  Eric: Uh, as soon as you go, hey, do you guys want me to like wrap you up anything for like to take home?
• 31:08
  Eric: Do you that's a good one?
• 31:10
  Matt: You want some of the status home?
• 31:12
  Eric: Yeah, that's a very good signal of get the fuck out.
• 31:15
  Matt: Yes, yes, I think so.
• 31:16
  Matt: But I think the cleaning is probably like a surefire hit because especially if you are doing a thing like a dinner party or whatever, you've served dessert, dessert is gone, and then then and only then you start cleaning things up, if you and not just like carrying things away.
• 31:37
  Matt: If you start, this is another thing about the escalation.
• 31:40
  Matt: Like, hey, are you done with this?
• 31:42
  Matt: That's that's a big step.
• 31:43
  Matt: But another big step is if you go into full-on dishwashing.
• 31:48
  Eric: Yes, that's there.
• 31:49
  Eric: If if water is running and like plates and glasses are clinking together in a dish rack or like you're loaded, you're visibly loading a dishwasher.
• 31:58
  Matt: Those are all clear signs of get the fuck out of my house.
• 32:02
  Matt: But that is but that again, I think that's a tag team thing.
• 32:05
  Matt: Because I think it'd be really awkward to just start doing dishes.
• 32:08
  Matt: You put on your apron or whatever, and you're like washing shit without another person to like run interference.
• 32:15
  Matt: We're still having the same conversation.
• 32:17
  Matt: Don't in mind the manual labor happening over there.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, he's fine.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 32:25
  Eric: You do need a tag team.
• 32:27
  Eric: Another good one in that scenario, like, because I know I know the chaise, you always have to have coffee after dinner.
• 32:32
  Eric: Of course.
• 32:33
  Eric: Uh a very good, subtle one, because it's one they won't even realize until like they're like, oh, and they might even be impressed.
• 32:40
  Eric: Is dessert has been served, dessert has been eaten, coffee has been drank.
• 32:44
  Eric: You go around with the pot.
• 32:45
  Eric: Hey, anyone want uh one more cup of coffee before you all hit the road?
• 32:48
  Matt: Oh, Eric, you've made a misstep here.
• 32:50
  Matt: Uh I I I understand you come from uh a place, the uh family that doesn't have coffee as like a standard after dinner dessert accompaniment.
• 33:03
  Matt: Yeah.
• 33:03
  Matt: But because you did this, you did not grow up with Baba, my grandmother.
• 33:10
  Matt: If you offered Baba more coffee, she will take it.
• 33:15
  Eric: Every time.
• 33:16
  Matt: And then if you do it again at 10 p.m., she will take it.
• 33:21
  Matt: Fuck.
• 33:22
  Matt: So that is not, in fact, that is not a closer.
• 33:25
  Matt: That is, in fact, a reopener.
• 33:29
  Eric: Damn.
• 33:31
  Eric: All right, they can't all be winners.
• 33:33
  Matt: I mean, at least in this specific uh in this specific window that I come from, that wouldn't work.
• 33:39
  Matt: That would not work.
• 33:40
  Eric: I did not anticipate the Baba factor.
• 33:43
  Matt: No one ever does.
• 33:44
  Eric: No one ever does.
• 33:46
  Eric: Though I will say b babas, ya's and gim gams and grammys, they all have the same.
• 33:53
  Eric: I feel like they all have the same diplomatic immunity when it comes to getting guests to leave your house, in that if my grandma's over, she leaves whenever the fuck she wants.
• 34:01
  Matt: You're not the host anymore.
• 34:02
  Matt: You're the host.
• 34:03
  Matt: I'm not the host, but you're not in charge.
• 34:05
  Eric: No, yeah.
• 34:06
  Eric: I am I am her next slide guy.
• 34:10
  Eric: You are the next slide last guy.
• 34:11
  Eric: I'm the next slide guy.
• 34:12
  Matt: Yeah, no, the grandmother's the you know, the yeah, like you said, the whatever you call them, the yaas, the abuelas, they're all they're all the same group of I'm in I'm running the show here.
• 34:25
  Eric: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:27
  Eric: They don't even have to like exude it.
• 34:28
  Eric: They're they're not they don't have to be controlled.
• 34:30
  Eric: They're just like, it's your grandma.
• 34:32
  Eric: It's your gim game, it's your gizmo.
• 34:34
  Eric: It's like you can't you've making some of these up, right?
• 34:36
  Eric: What's a gizmo?
• 34:37
  Matt: Isn't that a isn't that a gremlin?
• 34:39
  Matt: I'm talking about I'm talking about gimgams.
• 34:41
  Matt: I'm talking about oh yeah, I'm talking about taters.
• 34:44
  Matt: You're talking about I'm talking about gram grams.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm talking, man, you know.
• 34:49
  Matt: Yeah, I'm talking about those bangers and mash.
• 34:51
  Matt: You know what I'm talking about.
• 34:53
  Matt: Those bangers and mash.
• 34:57
  Matt: Oh man.
• 34:59
  Matt: Um, okay, so so all that was is to establish that everything we've come up with so far will not work against uh you are powerless in in the face of a boy line.
• 35:12
  Matt: And that's you are just fucked then.
• 35:14
  Eric: Yeah, you're just fucked, and that's fine.
• 35:16
  Matt: Yeah.
• 35:17
  Matt: So settle in, pour yourself another coffee, because we got another tale of the 1940s.
• 35:23
  Eric: Yes.
• 35:24
  Eric: On to on tech.
• 35:25
  Eric: She she had the the original Werthers.
• 35:28
  Eric: You can't beat that.
• 35:30
  Eric: She is the Worthers original.
• 35:32
  Eric: She she is the original Werthers.
• 35:35
  Matt: Okay.
• 35:36
  Eric: Did we oh we did.
• 35:39
  Eric: We I think we were, I think we were thorough about something.
• 35:42
  Matt: We sure were thorough.
• 35:44
  Matt: Uh we yeah, sure, we answered it.
• 35:46
  Matt: We gave you some tools that you can use unless you're talking about an abuela, uh, unless you're talking about a grandmother.
• 35:53
  Eric: Yeah.
• 35:54
  Matt: If you're talking about a grandmother, you're you're up up shit's creek without a battle.
• 35:59
  Matt: We're talking about moms, we're talking about Rokus, you know, whatever we're saying.
• 36:03
  Matt: We're talking about whoever it happens to be.
• 36:06
  Eric: We're talking about Bobby Yaggas.
• 36:10
  Eric: Okay.
• 36:10
  Eric: Uh shall we go?
• 36:11
  Eric: Uh next slide.
• 36:12
  Eric: Next slide.
• 36:13
  Eric: Next slide.
• 36:13
  Eric: Next slide.
• 36:14
  Eric: Uh this one comes from our good, good, good, good, good, good friend of us and the pod, but mostly us.
• 36:22
  Eric: Went to school with him.
• 36:23
  Eric: Uh this comes from our good friend Mike Purie Jr.
• 36:27
  Eric: He's Mike Purry Jr.
• 36:29
  Eric: on Instagram.
• 36:30
  Eric: Is ending a sentence in a text without punctuation passive aggressive?
• 36:36
  Eric: Yes.
• 36:37
  Eric: And he's you end a text without punctuation, is that passive aggressive?
• 36:42
  Eric: I have firm opinions.
• 36:43
  Matt: I I do too.
• 36:44
  Matt: I uh my opinions are so firm on this that I think Mike Purry, uh former, my former roommate, by the way, I think he might have made a mistake here because is ending a sentence in a text without punctuation passive aggressive?
• 37:02
  Matt: If I were to be so bold, if I were to write this question, my assumption is you meant writing a text with punctuation.
• 37:12
  Matt: If I receive a text from my wife that ends in a period, you're fucked.
• 37:18
  Matt: I am in trouble.
• 37:20
  Eric: If I get a text from someone, if they're like, hey, are we gonna do something?
• 37:26
  Eric: And I like, I'm like, oop, nope, sorry, I forgot, I actually can't do it today, and the response is okay, period.
• 37:33
  Matt: Oh, and is I and I assume what came to mind in the horror show that I just pictured in this circumstance is it didn't say okay a y period.
• 37:43
  Matt: It said okay, capitalized, period.
• 37:47
  Eric: Okay, capitalized, period.
• 37:49
  Matt: Or a capital O, capital K period is a death sentence.
• 37:53
  Eric: Yeah.
• 37:54
  Eric: Or God help you K.
• 37:57
  Eric: Ooh, K peri Oh my god.
• 37:58
  Eric: K period.
• 37:59
  Eric: Did you see it?
• 38:00
  Eric: It just pierced it.
• 38:01
  Matt: I know.
• 38:01
  Matt: You had a physical flinch.
• 38:04
  Matt: I retracted from it.
• 38:05
  Eric: I retracted as if a Matt this is a safe this is a safe space.
• 38:10
  Matt: Do you do have you received a K period?
• 38:15
  Matt: I have received a K now a K a K without a period.
• 38:19
  Matt: That's mysterious.
• 38:20
  Matt: That's good.
• 38:21
  Eric: That's mysterious.
• 38:21
  Eric: That leaves a little could go either way.
• 38:23
  Eric: With a period, that is there is a finality to it that it just I almost as a rule, uh except for question marks or exclamation part points, uh I use I never use periods.
• 38:37
  Matt: You never use anything?
• 38:38
  Eric: No, I never use periods.
• 38:39
  Eric: I never use periods.
• 38:40
  Eric: I never use periods.
• 38:41
  Matt: I like specifically don't use periods unless I'm writing ellipses.
• 38:45
  Eric: It is critical to me.
• 38:46
  Eric: I think it's because we both write.
• 38:48
  Eric: Uh I think it's because like we it's crucial to us that tone is conveyed and that we know everything is okay.
• 38:55
  Eric: Yeah, getting getting an okay period is like it's like getting a we need to talk.
• 39:01
  Matt: Yeah, that is what it feels like.
• 39:03
  Matt: And and if there are multiple sentences, I mean, I guess if I were writing a text that was multiple sentences, the middle sentence can have a period.
• 39:14
  Matt: Yes, yes, that's acceptable because you need to you need to know where the thought ends.
• 39:18
  Eric: If I have three sentences, first sentence exclamation, second sentence uh period, third sentence exclamation again.
• 39:24
  Matt: Sure.
• 39:24
  Matt: Yeah, but like and so the question is is ending a sentence in a text without punctuation passive aggressive?
• 39:31
  Matt: Again, I I don't think ending a text without punctuation is ever passive aggressive.
• 39:36
  Matt: No.
• 39:37
  Matt: I think if you want to be passive aggressive, you need to do it with punctuation.
• 39:42
  Matt: Specifically a period.
• 39:43
  Eric: Specifically, I never feel weird about a question or an ellipses.
• 39:48
  Eric: I well, see, that's what I said.
• 39:50
  Eric: I I'll use it.
• 39:51
  Eric: That one's a little more contextual.
• 39:52
  Matt: It's a contextual because I do I will end um I will end a text with ellipses to either convey like, oh, this is an awkward thing, you know, well, I already told him that.
• 40:07
  Matt: You know, something like that.
• 40:08
  Matt: Or if I'm saying like I actively want a response from you, you know, say like uh like you send me ellipses often.
• 40:17
  Matt: I'm starting a thought and I'm giving the ellipses to you.
• 40:22
  Matt: I'm passing the baton to you to complete the thought.
• 40:25
  Matt: And your thoughts are and and would and your thoughts are.
• 40:29
  Matt: I'm trying to see one last if if and when.
• 40:32
  Matt: Are you looking through our text?
• 40:34
  Matt: I'm looking through our text to see if a period has been deployed.
• 40:37
  Eric: Oh, 100% it has.
• 40:40
  Eric: I feel them in my soul.
• 40:42
  Matt: Well, here's one from a while ago, but it's at the end of a really big thing, and then I immediately sent another text.
• 40:48
  Matt: So I feel like that I don't think I intended that as like a passive aggressive period.
• 40:53
  Eric: I don't see any.
• 40:54
  Eric: I guarantee it's one of like the half dozen times or more I've been like, I'm sorry, I forgot we were doing this today, I'd be rescheduled, really, something came up.
• 41:02
  Matt: Okay, the last one I saw is from you on a while ago.
• 41:06
  Matt: What's the date?
• 41:07
  Matt: On March 20th.
• 41:08
  Matt: No preference.
• 41:09
  Matt: I'm home from work by five, period.
• 41:13
  Matt: But this almost feels like a rare, you just put it down.
• 41:17
  Matt: I didn't get a passive aggression, because I just responded, how about seven?
• 41:20
  Matt: Then we moved out.
• 41:20
  Eric: Oh, did I?
• 41:21
  Eric: Oh, I used the period.
• 41:22
  Eric: You did.
• 41:22
  Eric: Oh no, yeah.
• 41:23
  Eric: Oh, no, no, no, no, yeah.
• 41:25
  Matt: Interesting that you just assumed it was me.
• 41:27
  Matt: Fascinating.
• 41:27
  Matt: Interesting.
• 41:28
  Eric: Yeah.
• 41:28
  Eric: Interesting.
• 41:29
  Eric: What are you trying to say?
• 41:30
  Eric: I'm trying to say we both majored in acting.
• 41:34
  Eric: You minored in passive aggression.
• 41:39
  Eric: Oh my God.
• 41:40
  Eric: You're much, you're much better at at you're so much better at it than I am.
• 41:46
  Matt: On the contrary, I went to graduate school for passive aggression.
• 41:52
  Eric: Suggesting there's anything passive about my aggression.
• 41:55
  Matt: Have a master's degree in passive aggression.
• 41:59
  Matt: No, no.
• 42:00
  Matt: I mean, that's fair.
• 42:01
  Matt: Okay, that's fair.
• 42:02
  Matt: I give that to you.
• 42:03
  Matt: But that I think comes naturally.
• 42:07
  Matt: Oh, yeah.
• 42:08
  Matt: And so I have And that's why I never use periods, because I have to curb that.
• 42:13
  Eric: Like I You have to hold in this power that is trying to do it.
• 42:16
  Matt: Well, I have to compensate for it, right?
• 42:18
  Matt: It's like you know what I'm trying to say.
• 42:19
  Matt: Like somebody who's naturally because this also factors to me.
• 42:23
  Matt: I'm a very sarcastic person.
• 42:24
  Matt: So yeah, sarcasm drips out of me like the nectar of the gods.
• 42:31
  Matt: And so I have to be like pretty clear when I want to turn it on and off.
• 42:38
  Matt: You know what I'm saying?
• 42:38
  Eric: Yeah.
• 42:39
  Eric: Make it very like I'm being I'm being joking with you right now.
• 42:42
  Matt: Which is why deploying a period is almost at the end of a text and leaving it there.
• 42:50
  Matt: No follow-up text, like I just mentioned, no second sentence, especially if it is a short thought.
• 42:57
  Eric: Yes, that is critical as well.
• 42:58
  Eric: If you send me like three or four sentences, I don't care about a period.
• 43:01
  Eric: I like you're just writing.
• 43:03
  Matt: That's the one I was telling you about.
• 43:04
  Matt: I sent you like a bunch of thoughts on stuff, and it was like like two paragraphs, and I ended the whole thing with a period.
• 43:11
  Matt: But I I think that's that was I wasn't trying to convey anything.
• 43:14
  Matt: I think that was just I just wrote I just wrote a text I had to proofread.
• 43:20
  Matt: So so I ended it with a it would have been weird if you didn't put periods in there.
• 43:24
  Matt: But if I sent you a four-word text that ends with a period, I only deploy that period if I mean it.
• 43:31
  Matt: Yeah, yeah.
• 43:33
  Matt: I only deploy I only deploy it if it's making a point.
• 43:38
  Matt: Yeah.
• 43:39
  Eric: No, absolutely.
• 43:41
  Eric: And uh I I will say on the like is as we we are in so many things, we I approach it from the other side.
• 43:48
  Eric: I I am so terrified of receiving the period on a short sentence in a text that I never want anyone else to think that that I'm like I'm being passive aggressive to them.
• 43:58
  Eric: So I just use exclamation.
• 44:00
  Eric: Exclamation points so goddamn much.
• 44:02
  Eric: In in like I'm like, oh yeah, hey, how are you doing?
• 44:04
  Eric: No, I'm doing great.
• 44:05
  Eric: I'm like, it, yeah, that's fine.
• 44:08
  Eric: Because if I said if I I like if someone's like, you know, hey, can we do this time instead of this time?
• 44:12
  Eric: I say, Yeah, that's fine, with an exclamation point.
• 44:14
  Eric: But if I said, Yeah, that's fine, period, that that oh my god.
• 44:18
  Matt: And the exclamation mark is doing the heavy lifting there because that is saying I mean this positively.
• 44:27
  Eric: Yes.
• 44:28
  Matt: As opposed to no period, where you could be sitting there on the other side saying, Well, is seven really fine, or is that inconvenient for them?
• 44:37
  Matt: Yeah, and they're just trying to go along with things.
• 44:39
  Matt: But if you say to me, Yeah, that's fine, period.
• 44:43
  Matt: Period.
• 44:44
  Matt: That says to me, It's not fine.
• 44:47
  Matt: It's not it is not fine at all.
• 44:49
  Matt: Because it's and I if you had sent that to me, I would almost certainly send a follow-up text that's like, I mean, we can do another day.
• 44:57
  Matt: Oh if that works better.
• 45:00
  Eric: And then your response.
• 45:01
  Eric: And then you say, No, it's great.
• 45:03
  Eric: Exclamation.
• 45:04
  Eric: Oh God.
• 45:04
  Eric: And then like you could counterpunctuate with when you say or we could do another day.
• 45:11
  Eric: God help me if you put a period on the end of that.
• 45:13
  Eric: It's a question.
• 45:14
  Eric: Oh, you put a period.
• 45:16
  Eric: Oh my god.
• 45:17
  Matt: Ending a question with no punctuation, acceptable, I think, in texting.
• 45:23
  Matt: Ending a question with anything other than a question mark for your punctuation.
• 45:28
  Matt: Calculated.
• 45:30
  Matt: Because that means you know that a punctuation mark is due here, and you chose the wrong one.
• 45:39
  Eric: Fucking we're you went up to you we're you were told to pick your weapon for this duel, and you went past every single gun and picked the sword.
• 45:48
  Eric: Yes.
• 45:48
  Matt: Yes.
• 45:49
  Matt: This god or or the exact opposite.
• 45:52
  Matt: You you're showing up to fencing class with a pistol.
• 45:56
  Eric: Yes.
• 45:58
  Eric: Why does he have gunpowder?
• 46:02
  Matt: Oh, uh, he's pissed about what time we're meeting.
• 46:05
  Eric: Oh no.
• 46:06
  Matt: Yeah, I think we I think we I think we thoroughly answered this question, but I unfortunately do think uh, Mr.
• 46:13
  Matt: Purie, that it is the uh it is the opposite of actually what you asked.
• 46:17
  Eric: The opposite.
• 46:18
  Matt: Uh ending.
• 46:19
  Eric: He responds to this to this episode on Instagram with K.
• 46:25
  Matt: Yeah, he'll respond with thanks, period.
• 46:27
  Matt: Thanks.
• 46:28
  Eric: Uh again, yeah, that is our our good good friend Mike Purry Jr.
• 46:32
  Eric: Give him a follow up.
• 46:35
  Eric: Insanely talented human being.
• 46:37
  Matt: Yes, and I believe you can see him in uh I uh I'm not sure exactly which city in Florida right now is Buddy Holly and Buddy the Buddy Holly.
• 46:45
  Eric: That's right, he's playing Buddy Holly.
• 46:47
  Matt: Again, yes, he's paid him many times.
• 46:48
  Eric: If you've ever met Mike, that's that like that absolutely scans.
• 46:53
  Matt: Yeah, so go check out Mike Perry's stuff on the uh Instagram and uh uh just about any stage you can find.
• 47:00
  Matt: Um now, Eric, should we move into our closing segment for the day, which is a new closing segment.
• 47:07
  Matt: New segment.
• 47:09
  Matt: There it is.
• 47:10
  Matt: This has been highly requested of us.
• 47:14
  Matt: Uh over the the year and a half we've been doing this show, we have received many a would you rather question.
• 47:24
  Matt: Oh yeah.
• 47:24
  Matt: And we've up until now, we have pushed them aside.
• 47:28
  Matt: We've scorned them.
• 47:30
  Matt: Because that is not our brand, we decided.
• 47:33
  Matt: But now we thought we thought.
• 47:35
  Matt: Because now that they keep coming in, we said, well, hey, we do personal questions, right?
• 47:39
  Matt: So why not do a would you rather segment?
• 47:43
  Eric: Yeah.
• 47:43
  Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 47:44
  Matt: So, Eric, we've got a couple uh three here that I think we can get through.
• 47:49
  Matt: And the first was sent to us a long time ago by at Amy Sanka Coffee Face on Instagram.
• 47:57
  Matt: Um, would you rather have a ketchup milkshake or a barbecue sauce milkshake?
• 48:04
  Eric: Okay.
• 48:05
  Eric: I'm gonna go with barbecue sauce milkshake.
• 48:08
  Eric: I'm leaning towards barbecue would make me throw up, even though barbecue sauce is usually a ketchup-based condiment.
• 48:14
  Eric: Uh, at the very least, I could dip chicken tenders in my barbecue sauce milkshake, a la dipping fries in a in a frosty.
• 48:22
  Matt: Absolutely, which I did just yesterday, as a matter of fact.
• 48:25
  Matt: The You're the one who introduced me to that.
• 48:27
  Matt: I listen, I know my way around a frosty.
• 48:31
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 48:32
  Matt: So the would you rather here, I think here's the thing, because I'm picturing these two little.
• 48:39
  Eric: I'm assuming we have to drink it.
• 48:41
  Matt: Yeah, of course.
• 48:42
  Matt: So that I think that's the conceit of any would you rather, right?
• 48:45
  Matt: So if I forget the milkshake part of it.
• 48:49
  Matt: If I have these two sauces, ketchup and barbecue sauce, sitting in front of me, and I have to choose between them in terms of slurping one down by itself.
• 49:02
  Eric: Yeah.
• 49:03
  Matt: I think I go barbecue sauce.
• 49:05
  Eric: I gotta go barbecue.
• 49:06
  Matt: Because I I hey, listen, I like ketchup just fine.
• 49:09
  Matt: I have strong feelings about his placements on hot dogs and hamburgers.
• 49:13
  Matt: Just by itself, I don't think I could do a ton of it.
• 49:17
  Matt: Licking it off a finger, one thing.
• 49:19
  Matt: Slurping ketchup, no, thank you.
• 49:22
  Eric: Here's my other angle, too is whatever one I'm drinking is gonna be ruined for me.
• 49:28
  Eric: So if ketchup is ruined for me, all ketchup is ruined for me.
• 49:33
  Eric: Oh, sure.
• 49:33
  Eric: If barbecue sauce is ruined for me, just probably that brand.
• 49:37
  Eric: Like I might it would, you know, because there's a variety of barbecue sauces.
• 49:42
  Matt: Listen, I think there's a world where it's good, I have to say.
• 49:46
  Matt: I think there's a world where it's good.
• 49:47
  Matt: I think there's a world where it's okay.
• 49:50
  Matt: Because there's all kinds of ice cream that you don't think would be okay.
• 49:54
  Matt: Because, like, for example, this and this is a Maryland thing, and it's the most Maryland thing.
• 50:00
  Matt: And when you not from Maryland hear this, you're gonna say, Jesus, these people from Maryland.
• 50:06
  Matt: But if you've never had old bay ice cream, Old Bay ice cream is dope.
• 50:10
  Matt: You haven't lived, my friend.
• 50:12
  Matt: Oh my god.
• 50:14
  Matt: This the salty, sweet combination while bringing you the essence of the sea is unparalleled.
• 50:22
  Eric: And Matt, let me you can really taste the rock salt.
• 50:25
  Eric: You really taste it.
• 50:26
  Eric: Um taste the grime of the Chesapeake.
• 50:30
  Eric: I'm gonna dairy queen this.
• 50:32
  Eric: Okay.
• 50:33
  Eric: Barbecue milkshake, right?
• 50:34
  Eric: Barbecue sauce milkshake with chunks of cornbread and bacon bits in it.
• 50:41
  Eric: Say that again.
• 50:42
  Eric: Barbecue sauce milkshake with like, you know how you can put like chunks of pound cake in a milkshake?
• 50:47
  Eric: Yeah, sure.
• 50:48
  Eric: Chunks of cornbread.
• 50:51
  Eric: Okay.
• 50:52
  Eric: And and actual bits of actual bacon.
• 50:55
  Eric: Not bacon bits, but like bits of actual bacon.
• 50:58
  Matt: I fucking love a bacon milkshake.
• 51:00
  Eric: Bacon milkshake's awesome.
• 51:02
  Matt: A maple bacon milkshake.
• 51:03
  Matt: A maple bacon milkshake is fucking phenomenal.
• 51:06
  Matt: With the and you get the big old stick in there to cap it off.
• 51:09
  Matt: Yep.
• 51:10
  Matt: You garnish it with a chicken tender.
• 51:12
  Eric: Like you can't go wrong.
• 51:13
  Eric: Garnish it with a chicken tender.
• 51:15
  Eric: Interesting.
• 51:15
  Eric: The barbecue milkshake.
• 51:16
  Matt: Oh, the barbecue milkshake.
• 51:17
  Matt: The barbecue.
• 51:18
  Matt: I'd try it.
• 51:19
  Matt: I'd try it.
• 51:19
  Matt: I'll try it.
• 51:20
  Matt: Ketchup milkshake?
• 51:21
  Matt: I would not try.
• 51:23
  Matt: Because what do you what are you gonna put it in a ketchup uh hot dog?
• 51:26
  Matt: Bits of ground beef?
• 51:27
  Matt: Come on.
• 51:27
  Eric: No, no.
• 51:28
  Eric: No, no, no, no.
• 51:29
  Matt: No, thank you.
• 51:30
  Matt: I don't want that in my I don't want that blizzard.
• 51:32
  Matt: And by the way, fun fact, I've never had a blizzard from Dairy Queen.
• 51:37
  Matt: Never in my 32 years.
• 51:39
  Eric: Honest to God, I don't think I have either.
• 51:41
  Eric: Do we even have a Dairy Queen date?
• 51:43
  Eric: We're gonna have a dairy, we're gonna have a Dairy Queen date.
• 51:45
  Eric: I'm absolutely down for a Dairy Queen date.
• 51:47
  Eric: We can if we bring a laptop, we can record live from Dairy Queen.
• 51:51
  Matt: Can we interview people in Dairy Queen?
• 51:54
  Matt: Hey, this is our first blizzard.
• 51:56
  Matt: Who would like to join?
• 51:57
  Matt: Now we're now we're encroaching on podcast but outside's territory.
• 52:01
  Matt: Um but anyway, uh so barbecue milkshake.
• 52:04
  Matt: Barbecue milkshake.
• 52:05
  Matt: Um so so for both of us, that's that's interesting.
• 52:10
  Matt: So here are some others uh that have been sent to us.
• 52:13
  Matt: I think these have been collected from Reddit or elsewhere, but these both come from Lindsay at Simply Lindsay on Instagram.
• 52:22
  Matt: Um would you rather, and these are both gaming questions.
• 52:27
  Matt: Okay.
• 52:28
  Matt: Nerds.
• 52:29
  Matt: Oh no, the first one is a game question, second one's not so much.
• 52:32
  Matt: Uh would you rather have multiple save points throughout your life or a new game plus experience?
• 52:42
  Eric: So new game plus experience meaning I die and then I restart my life again, but now I have all my not like I have all my stats.
• 52:49
  Matt: I take it to mean you come out as a new baby, but you've got all the stats, all the knowledge you had.
• 52:56
  Matt: Because in a game, if you you have multiple save points in your life, great, you can restart from that save point.
• 53:02
  Matt: But if you get to restart with all the accomplishments and all the extra tricks that you've unlocked, I I feel like if we're talking about restarting a life, although usually the save points go along with the starting over plus experience.
• 53:21
  Eric: Yeah, I'm I'm leaning towards the new game plus.
• 53:24
  Eric: Yeah, I think I think I'm going new game plus.
• 53:28
  Eric: Because that means I just get like the save points from the first one almost become moot because like I'm gonna be coming back around again.
• 53:34
  Matt: But does this imply there are no save points?
• 53:37
  Matt: Ooh.
• 53:37
  Matt: Does this imply a Star Fox 64 sort of experience?
• 53:42
  Matt: God, where you gotta either beat the whole game or not.
• 53:47
  Eric: Yeah.
• 53:47
  Eric: Or yeah, or or like, God help you if like you're if if if if your the circumstances of your birth were turbulent, like you were born like on a on like a heaving ship, and you're like, all right, I gotta make it past this first fucking level.
• 54:00
  Eric: Oh my god, wow.
• 54:01
  Eric: Yes, a pirate baby.
• 54:03
  Matt: Yeah.
• 54:05
  Matt: I think I lean new game experience, but can you imagine that experience?
• 54:10
  Matt: Waking up as a baby, a newborn baby, but for some reason your smaller, yet to be fully developed brain is firing on all cylinders.
• 54:19
  Eric: That see, that's also what worries me.
• 54:20
  Eric: I feel like that's gonna suck for like the first year.
• 54:23
  Eric: The first year is gonna just be you fucking agonizing in boredom until you can slightly develop motor skills.
• 54:31
  Eric: Don't you understand?
• 54:32
  Eric: I'm the good I'm Matt Shea, the good podcaster.
• 54:35
  Eric: If but if you get your physical stats, you can essentially do a backflip out of out of the womb.
• 54:41
  Matt: Or it could, yeah, it could, or it could be like once you physically develop, like yeah, you just start you come out talking like what up, found.
• 54:53
  Matt: Because yes, I can't I because I I have thought many a time how nice it would be to time travel back to talk to myself.
• 55:06
  Matt: Usually this happens in high school, to be and be able to tell high school Matt, like, listen, I have some information that you're gonna find out.
• 55:16
  Matt: You know what I'm saying?
• 55:17
  Matt: Like, yeah, like like a coaching session of like, listen, I went through I I went through missed opportunities that you can not miss, you can avoid it.
• 55:29
  Eric: Oh, yeah.
• 55:30
  Eric: I would love to fuck with me.
• 55:31
  Eric: Ooh, interesting.
• 55:33
  Eric: I if I went back to high school, Eric, I'd be like, Eric, man, I gotta tell you.
• 55:38
  Eric: I tell you about what's gonna happen on 9-11, and you're like, and and then me is like 9-11 was five or six years ago, dog.
• 55:46
  Matt: Like, yeah.
• 55:49
  Matt: Or you say, No, no, that was the first 9-11.
• 55:53
  Eric: That was the first 9-11.
• 55:55
  Eric: Jesus Christ.
• 55:56
  Eric: Oh yeah, I feel like, hey, hey, me, I'm gonna give you three conspiracies.
• 56:01
  Eric: One of them is true.
• 56:02
  Eric: You take your pick.
• 56:04
  Eric: And then right before you go, oh, by the way, they're all true.
• 56:07
  Matt: And then leave it all true.
• 56:10
  Matt: Um okay, so new game plus experience.
• 56:12
  Matt: Uh and Eric, you want to give us the last one here?
• 56:15
  Eric: So this one continues with like kind of the birth, rebirth sort of thing.
• 56:22
  Eric: Would you rather add 50 years to your life and become a ghost upon death?
• 56:27
  Eric: So guaranteed ghosthood, or reduce lifespan and be in reincarnated continuously.
• 56:34
  Eric: And I'm guessing by reduced lifespan, I'm I'm guessing like you die in like your 30s or 40s.
• 56:39
  Matt: Yeah, I I have a definite answer here.
• 56:42
  Eric: I have a definite answer.
• 56:43
  Matt: I don't even have to think about it.
• 56:45
  Eric: Yeah.
• 56:45
  Matt: Shall we say it on three?
• 56:47
  Eric: Yep.
• 56:48
  Matt: Three, two, one, go.
• 56:50
  Eric: Reincarnation.
• 56:52
  Eric: Really?
• 56:53
  Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 56:55
  Eric: Why?
• 56:56
  Eric: You wanted to be immortal like 10 episodes ago.
• 56:59
  Eric: Yeah, and with continuous reincarnation, I'll be not only immortal, I'll be able to do something about it.
• 57:06
  Matt: No, this isn't new game plus experience.
• 57:08
  Matt: This is you just start over again.
• 57:10
  Eric: Oh, reincarnation as a mode.
• 57:12
  Matt: And if it's reduced lifespan, you're starting over as another sickly child.
• 57:17
  Eric: So here's so here's my logic.
• 57:19
  Eric: Yeah.
• 57:19
  Eric: Constant reincarnation, roll the dice, right?
• 57:23
  Eric: Sure.
• 57:23
  Eric: Uh, could be reincarnated as a very wealthy, privileged, you know, person.
• 57:30
  Eric: Uh, or I could be reincarnated as a fucking cockroach, you can say.
• 57:36
  Matt: Yeah.
• 57:37
  Eric: With there's a there's an element of chance.
• 57:40
  Eric: And with the reduced lifespan, no matter what I get, not forever.
• 57:46
  Eric: Sure.
• 57:46
  Eric: With the ghost, God help you if you die somewhere boring, embarrassing, or lame.
• 57:53
  Eric: Like, and you end up having to haunt a fucking Denny's.
• 57:57
  Matt: I think that's on you, buddy.
• 57:59
  Matt: If I'm haunting a Denny's, I'm having fun with it.
• 58:02
  Matt: And everyone's gonna know about me.
• 58:04
  Matt: Everyone's gonna know that, you know.
• 58:07
  Matt: Oh yeah, you know about the ghost?
• 58:09
  Matt: Yeah, well, he died midway through, you know, a grand slam.
• 58:14
  Matt: And so he's he's always he comes to the back booth around midnight, you know?
• 58:19
  Eric: Yeah.
• 58:20
  Matt: You know, one of those.
• 58:21
  Matt: You're having fun with it.
• 58:22
  Matt: And then when that Denny's gets demolished and put out of business, what happens?
• 58:26
  Matt: I think you're is the spirit released, or are you haunting the long John Silvers that's put in in its stead?
• 58:32
  Matt: I will find it.
• 58:33
  Eric: It really depends.
• 58:34
  Eric: Yeah, it really depends on on the longevity of the ghost.
• 58:38
  Matt: I think there is an opportunity by becoming a ghost to essentially live forever.
• 58:46
  Matt: You know what I mean?
• 58:47
  Matt: It's always this ghost, the idea of a ghost is always painted as being stuck between worlds or some sort of purgatorial punishment, something, something like that.
• 58:56
  Matt: But is this not potentially?
• 58:59
  Matt: Is this not potentially the legacy that we have all chased?
• 59:03
  Matt: This is the world, this is how we can affect things forever by haunting a grand slam breakfast.
• 59:12
  Eric: I think this question has spoken to each of us, like our answers are very indicative of who we are as people because I am terrified of something always being the same.
• 59:23
  Eric: You are terrified of change.
• 59:25
  Eric: I so in your ghosthood, you finally get what you want.
• 59:29
  Eric: You're like, I can just establish my routine and no one can fuck with it.
• 59:34
  Matt: Hold on.
• 59:35
  Matt: I am terrified of change, but I didn't expect to be slapped with that in the middle of this question.
• 59:42
  Eric: That that was an attack.
• 59:44
  Eric: That was an attack.
• 59:46
  Eric: Or more justly put, each of our answers is the other person's nightmare scenario.
• 59:52
  Eric: Where I'm in a situation where I'm like, I despite that.
• 59:55
  Matt: I think you'd want to be a ghost.
• 59:57
  Matt: You just talked about fucking with yourself.
• 1:00:00
  Matt: I just don't.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_00: The idea of being a ghost forever does kind of suck.
• 1:00:07
  Matt: But you were the one who talked about immortality and living forever and being the wizard on a hill.
• 1:00:14
  Eric: Yeah, but that I can like change occupations, fake my death pool Highlander whenever I want.
• 1:00:20
  Eric: This, I'm a ghost.
• 1:00:23
  Eric: Whatever I was wearing when I died, that's what I wear now.
• 1:00:26
  Matt: I know forever.
• 1:00:28
  Matt: You know, my parents have started watching that that show Ghosts, the new one on uh, I think it's CBS.
• 1:00:32
  Matt: You know what I'm talking about?
• 1:00:33
  Matt: It's about uh this like haunted mansion.
• 1:00:37
  Matt: Okay, but like a ton of people have died there.
• 1:00:40
  Matt: Like the that's the conceit.
• 1:00:42
  Matt: And so these new like millennials have bought this house on the cheap, but there's this group of ghosts.
• 1:00:48
  Matt: It's a comedy show.
• 1:00:49
  Matt: There's a group of ghosts who haunt this place, and you get new ones all the time that like haven't been met.
• 1:00:54
  Matt: I I've only seen this in passing when I've stayed with my parents.
• 1:00:57
  Matt: This sounds fun.
• 1:00:58
  Matt: It is fun.
• 1:00:59
  Matt: Like, there's there's like a a scout leader there, there's like a like a preppy guy who has no pants on, but it's not explained why he has no pants on.
• 1:01:08
  Matt: Yeah, see, that's the shit I'm like, man.
• 1:01:11
  Matt: Why?
• 1:01:11
  Matt: Just the idea of being stuck there forever.
• 1:01:13
  Eric: What if I died?
• 1:01:14
  Eric: What if I die with no pants on?
• 1:01:16
  Eric: I spend the rest of eternity Donald Ducking it.
• 1:01:19
  Matt: Yeah, this guy's Donald Duck in it, for sure.
• 1:01:22
  Matt: I hate it, but but he was one of the first ghosts that came to my mind just now.
• 1:01:26
  Matt: He's unique, he's got something.
• 1:01:29
  Matt: Bully for you.
• 1:01:32
  Matt: I'm just saying, I think there's an opportunity.
• 1:01:35
  Matt: If you die in a Denny's.
• 1:01:37
  Matt: Yes, if you die in a Denny's, there's an opportunity for you to really create something for yourself.
• 1:01:46
  Matt: And if I die the the the Duke of Denny's, then that is that is the greatest role I will ever play.
• 1:01:58
  Matt: Until someone gets to know me, like in Beetlejuice, until we get a Beetlejuice situation.
• 1:02:03
  Matt: I can see the pros.
• 1:02:04
  Matt: I can't believe you don't want to be a ghost.
• 1:02:06
  Eric: You'd be a great ghost.
• 1:02:07
  Eric: I the here's the thing.
• 1:02:08
  Eric: I don't mind being a ghost.
• 1:02:10
  Eric: It's the concept of being stuck as a ghost potentially forever or even fucking a few centuries that fucks me up.
• 1:02:18
  Eric: Mm-mm.
• 1:02:20
  Matt: I can see, I can see where it could get monotonous.
• 1:02:24
  Matt: I can see it.
• 1:02:25
  Eric: But if I get reborn as a fucking Scientologist, yeah, that'll blow.
• 1:02:30
  Eric: But I'll just catch in the next time around.
• 1:02:32
  Eric: I'm not making it past 30.
• 1:02:34
  Matt: I mean, yeah, but like in the meat, but that's what I mean.
• 1:02:38
  Matt: Like, if you're only living 30 years, like you know what I'm saying?
• 1:02:42
  Matt: Like, I guess you can pack those full of life.
• 1:02:45
  Matt: But like live, laugh, love, baby.
• 1:02:48
  Matt: Dance like nobody's watching, dog.
• 1:02:50
  Matt: I don't know.
• 1:02:50
  Matt: I'm just not prepared to hit the reset clock on my own brain.
• 1:02:54
  Matt: I've thought about if reincarnation is real and you wake up and you don't remember all the stuff you you did.
• 1:03:00
  Matt: You just spent a lifetime crafting this podcasting personality, and now you just gotta start over and go through algebra again.
• 1:03:09
  Matt: God damn it.
• 1:03:11
  Matt: I paid those dues, and now I'm haunting this Denny's.
• 1:03:20
  Eric: So that's where we stand on that question.
• 1:03:22
  Eric: That's that's where we stand on that.
• 1:03:24
  Eric: Promoting this podcast from a booth in Denny's 100 years from now.
• 1:03:29
  Matt: Man, I felt as long as I die with a microphone, I'll die happy.
• 1:03:32
  Matt: Uh, so the if I can take that with me into the after afterlife.
• 1:03:37
  Matt: Can you imagine that though?
• 1:03:38
  Matt: If you if you meet a if I'm in this ghost show, and either as a podcaster, as like a sports broadcaster, and so you just annoy the other ghosts or the living by being like, Oh yes, even though he weighs 380 pounds, he went ahead and got himself two sides of bacon.
• 1:03:57
  Matt: That is a bold choice, Steve.
• 1:03:59
  Matt: I've ever I heard it.
• 1:04:00
  Eric: You said, yeah, you sound like you it it's it's like the the splash at the beginning of a fucking story.
• 1:04:06
  Eric: Like, he thought he was ordering pancakes with blueberries.
• 1:04:10
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:04:10
  Eric: But Michael in the kitchen had other plans.
• 1:04:14
  Matt: Yes.
• 1:04:14
  Matt: Thank you, Michael in the kitchen, and thank you all for sending us these would you rathers over all these many, many months now.
• 1:04:23
  Matt: We're finally doing them.
• 1:04:24
  Matt: You're welcome, America.
• 1:04:26
  Eric: Mm-hmm.
• 1:04:27
  Matt: Now, uh, unfortunately, Eric, before we uh wrap up the show here, we have a little bit of a well, we have a little bit of a beef to deal with, don't we?
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, right.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:04:40
  Matt: Now see, uh listeners, you might remember in the last episode, um, one of us, uh I don't want to name names.
• 1:04:46
  Eric: And let's keep it that way.
• 1:04:47
  Matt: Yeah, let's let's keep it that way.
• 1:04:48
  Matt: It was Poach.
• 1:04:49
  Matt: Okay.
• 1:04:50
  Matt: Wanted to start a beef with a podcast.
• 1:04:52
  Matt: Now, Eric, is I mean true or false?
• 1:04:55
  Matt: I mean I mean, we're joking.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, we're doing a bit jokes.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_00: We make a joke and bits.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_00: It was a bit.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:04
  Matt: What are we doing but bits here?
• 1:05:06
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:05:06
  Matt: Uh but yeah, unfortunately, Eric, uh, there is a podcast out there that uh took uh some chagrin with what we had to say.
• 1:05:15
  Matt: Chagrin say you.
• 1:05:16
  Matt: I say it.
• 1:05:17
  Matt: Uh, with our conversation with Zach Deuce, and that would be a show we in fact promoted on that episode.
• 1:05:24
  Matt: F and Cultured.
• 1:05:25
  Eric: Oh, dude, you're right.
• 1:05:28
  Eric: I you know, I remember, you know, I remember listening to like an episode of theirs recently, and like they were talking about this, like they were talking about this beef, and I was like, Well, that's with that's crazy.
• 1:05:41
  Eric: Yeah, I was like, that's crazy.
• 1:05:42
  Matt: That sounds like they like they have beef with us.
• 1:05:48
  Matt: And it you know, at first it just seemed like they were kind of going along with the thing, making up a bee a beef about nothing.
• 1:05:54
  Eric: I had to I like I had to do some Google, I had to make sure that like it was they were talking about us and it wasn't another podcast.
• 1:06:02
  Matt: But in fact, it was us.
• 1:06:04
  Matt: They were upset about, I guess, us talking to Zach Deuce.
• 1:06:09
  Matt: Again, we can't help who likes the show.
• 1:06:14
  Eric: Zach E D had a great time with us.
• 1:06:18
  Matt: We had a great time talking to him.
• 1:06:20
  Matt: We were big fans of your show.
• 1:06:22
  Matt: And so we were so we were so shocked to hear us dragged under the mud.
• 1:06:26
  Matt: And I do want to clear something up because it does sound like it actually sounds like you know, at first it was sounding like a joke, but then they brought up a point that I was confused about.
• 1:06:35
  Matt: They mentioned that uh one of us said when we were talking about their for uh fermented fruit segment that they're gonna be able to do.
• 1:06:42
  Matt: Love that segment.
• 1:06:43
  Matt: Love it, love it.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_00: Such a good segment.
• 1:06:45
  Matt: So fun.
• 1:06:46
  Matt: But at some point, you know, Zach Deuce said, you know, we were all really drunk when he did it.
• 1:06:52
  Matt: And then I said, you know, we should do that.
• 1:06:56
  Matt: And they thought, Eric, they thought I was talking about stealing the bit.
• 1:07:01
  Matt: I was talking about podcasting drunk.
• 1:07:07
  Eric: Hold on.
• 1:07:08
  Eric: I mean, come on.
• 1:07:09
  Eric: Hold on.
• 1:07:10
  Eric: You hear that?
• 1:07:12
  Matt: Oh my gosh, that sounds like a knee slap if ever I heard one.
• 1:07:15
  Eric: Yeah, it's a fucking knee slapper.
• 1:07:17
  Eric: So guys, I mean it's like big old common misunderstanding.
• 1:07:23
  Matt: I mean, I know you asked for a beef and uh, you know, they went along with it.
• 1:07:27
  Matt: They had some, you know, they had some jokes.
• 1:07:30
  Matt: They had some jokes.
• 1:07:31
  Matt: They uh in fact, uh, you know, they threatened our lives.
• 1:07:34
  Matt: Um, which which personally I thought, I don't know, I don't know, Eric.
• 1:07:39
  Matt: I thought I thought that went a little far.
• 1:07:41
  Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:44
  Matt: But you know, you know, Billy, you know, Richard, fucking you know, Biff, uh, Biff, Robbie, and Biff, uh, they're they're they're really cool guys.
• 1:07:53
  Matt: The dick, I think they're all, you know, they're all great guys.
• 1:07:56
  Matt: They're all great guys.
• 1:07:57
  Matt: Utmost respect for the biggest.
• 1:07:58
  Eric: Uh most respect for like Robbie.
• 1:08:01
  Matt: Greg, Brad, and the cat, you know, all you guys we think are great.
• 1:08:06
  Matt: Like your show.
• 1:08:07
  Eric: Love it, love your energy, love, you know.
• 1:08:11
  Eric: So I think like I I think we can Matt, I think.
• 1:08:15
  Matt: I think as far as we're concerned, you know, listen.
• 1:08:18
  Matt: Oh, as far as yeah, us, you and me.
• 1:08:21
  Matt: Just a little misunderstanding here, boys.
• 1:08:23
  Eric: Yeah, I think, I think, I mean, we clearly have no issue with whatsoever.
• 1:08:30
  Matt: I mean, we didn't even know this was coming.
• 1:08:33
  Matt: It was it was you guys who decided to threaten both our lives and uh insinuate that the name of our show was some sort of non-consensual activity, which come on.
• 1:08:47
  Matt: Come on, like I think we are.
• 1:08:49
  Eric: We know, we know that was one of those classic, you know, one of those classic The Richard bits.
• 1:08:55
  Matt: The yeah, the classic the Richard bits.
• 1:08:58
  Matt: Um But all that to say.
• 1:09:00
  Eric: All that toys, like as far as far as we're concerned, you know, beef squashed.
• 1:09:07
  Matt: You know, you know, uh you got I I hey I I understand why you would get uh you know trigger happy about someone coming for your bits.
• 1:09:15
  Matt: It's not what I meant.
• 1:09:16
  Eric: I know, I get it.
• 1:09:17
  Eric: It's not what I meant.
• 1:09:18
  Eric: You know, you got dairy king, he's your boy, he's your golden goose, and then all of a sudden he's like in our like goose shack.
• 1:09:26
  Matt: Yeah, he's in our goose shack giving us golden eggs, yeah.
• 1:09:29
  Eric: And you know what?
• 1:09:30
  Matt: Can we who can who can keep track of the dairy king, you know?
• 1:09:33
  Eric: Like who can like he's he's an animal.
• 1:09:37
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, he he's the king.
• 1:09:40
  Matt: Yeah, the 11th of his name.
• 1:09:42
  Matt: So, you know, as far as we're concerned, we're all good with it.
• 1:09:46
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, we're all good.
• 1:09:48
  Eric: Unless Unless I mean you know, I mean we're good.
• 1:09:53
  Eric: I mean we are good.
• 1:09:55
  Eric: If you're not good.
• 1:09:56
  Matt: If you're not good like if you're mad about it, like if you're gonna be mad about it.
• 1:10:00
  Matt: If you're gonna be real fucking mad about it, I mean if you want some of this Like we don't have any issues, but if you wanted to have issues, then I guess I guess go ahead and set the term.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because we don't need to set terms because we're not even we we're not good.
• 1:10:17
  Matt: But yeah, we're we're fine.
• 1:10:18
  Matt: We're fine.
• 1:10:19
  Matt: Like we're having a great We're we're all having fun, we're all having jokes here.
• 1:10:24
  SPEAKER_00: But if you But if you But if you have an issue just go ahead.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Just go ahead and say it.
• 1:10:33
  Matt: And that'll about do it for this episode.
• 1:10:35
  Matt: You didn't ask for this.
• 1:10:36
  Matt: Uh of course, send us your would you rathers, your least pressing questions, and all the other stuff, unlikely fights, local legends, whatever you want these two idiots here to talk about.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:10:48
  Matt: And you can send those to us at you didn't ask pod.
• 1:10:53
  Matt: That's the letter you didn't ask pod on Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook.
• 1:10:57
  Matt: You can also email them to us at you didn't ask for this.com all uh or excuse me, you didn't ask for this gmail.com all spelled out.
• 1:11:07
  Matt: And if you would like your voice to speak to us directly, you can leave us a voicemail on the thought line.
• 1:11:14
  Matt: Thought line and we might just play it on the show.
• 1:11:17
  Matt: That number is 410-929-5329.
• 1:11:23
  Matt: Leave us a message today from your thoughts.
• 1:11:26
  Matt: And uh yeah, anything else you need to uh to promote or anything, Eric?
• 1:11:31
  Eric: Actually, yes.
• 1:11:33
  Eric: So my that's great.
• 1:11:38
  Eric: No, go ahead.
• 1:11:40
  Eric: My my other podcast, Whose Rolls It Anyway, where we play a game of dungeons and or dragons in front of a live audience using audience-generated items, spells, monsters, what have you, all created by the audience and used by us.
• 1:11:57
  Eric: Um, we have finally, after like a two-year hiatus, um, have started publishing episodes, which are recordings of our live shows around Baltimore at Magfest, um, and uh yeah, all over the place.
• 1:12:14
  Eric: So you can come check us out uh on the Thundergrunt Network.
• 1:12:18
  Eric: Uh, just search Thundergrunt, Whose Roll Is It Anyway, or just go to Facebook, search Whose Roll is It Anyway.
• 1:12:24
  Eric: You'll find our page.
• 1:12:25
  Eric: That's where we publish our episodes.
• 1:12:27
  Eric: You can give them a listen.
• 1:12:28
  Eric: They're a big ol' hoot.
• 1:12:29
  Matt: Great time.
• 1:12:30
  Matt: Absolutely great time.
• 1:12:32
  Matt: Do check that out.
• 1:12:34
  Matt: And of course, both of us, uh, since we're promoting uh other podcasts where you can catch us.
• 1:12:39
  Matt: It's been a while since we mentioned Beneath the Headlines.
• 1:12:42
  Matt: Uh, I co-created that with uh former guests Megan Stanton and Paul Diem.
• 1:12:48
  Matt: And Eric here is a key player in season one, and we'll be in season two as soon as we are done writing those scripts.
• 1:12:56
  Matt: So check that out.
• 1:12:57
  Matt: Five part series.
• 1:12:58
  Matt: Think you'll enjoy it.
• 1:12:59
  Matt: Um and uh yeah, that'll about do it.
• 1:13:02
  Matt: If you needed more content from these two voices, there you go.
• 1:13:07
  Matt: But in the meantime, for all of us here at You Didn't Ask for This.
• 1:13:12
  Matt: My name is Matt Shea.
• 1:13:13
  Matt: My name is Eric Poach.
• 1:13:15
  Matt: And listen, you didn't ask.
• 1:13:17
  Eric: But can we please talk about the fact that Arnold tried to off himself in the space episode?
• 1:13:24
  Eric: Do you remember the episode when they went to Pluto, right?
• 1:13:26
  Eric: And Arnold's like cousin was with him and she was annoying the shit out of him, and she annoyed him to the point he's like, I can't take it anymore.
• 1:13:34
  Eric: And he tried to take his mask off.
• 1:13:36
  Eric: Off his fucking he didn't try, he did it, and then his head froze into a solid block of ice.
• 1:13:41
  Eric: This kid tried to commit Sudoku in outer space.
• 1:13:47
  Matt: Sudoku?
• 1:13:49
  Matt: The numbers game?
• 1:13:51
  Eric: Yes.
• 1:13:55
  Matt: Is that what you mean?
• 1:13:56
  Matt: The numbers?
• 1:13:57
  Matt: The nine nine numbers the the boxes?
• 1:14:02
  Eric: Also known as Hadikati.
• 1:14:04
  Eric: Harry Carey?
• 1:14:05
  Eric: The Cubs broadcaster?
• 1:14:07
  Eric: Yes.
• 1:14:08
  Eric: Yes, that is who I'm talking about.