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- 0:07[SPEAKER_00]: Jacksonville Jaguar fans, welcome in to do Vault Daily, presented by GenJag.com.
- 0:11[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jordan Alugo.
- 0:12[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much for being here Monday, January 12th.
- 0:16[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, after keeps saying it, Jaguar season, 20 25 season, it's officially over, fell to the bills yesterday, very disappointing end to the season for a lot of reasons.
- 0:28[SPEAKER_00]: I felt, I know we talked about this yesterday, but I really felt like,
- 0:34[SPEAKER_00]: There was uncharacteristic mistakes from a lot of players in a lot of situations yesterday that led to some big place for the bills.
- 0:48[SPEAKER_00]: The bills made some great plays themselves.
- 0:50[SPEAKER_00]: Josh Allen was tough as all good out.
- 0:54[SPEAKER_00]: But some uncharacteristic mistakes and ultimately do think Liam Cohen was not sticking with the run consistently enough when the running game was where the jackwares had a true advantage yesterday consistently.
- 1:08[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll continue talking about that game for sure.
- 1:13[SPEAKER_00]: I did want to shift gears, have a little bit of fun.
- 1:17[SPEAKER_00]: The NFL draft stock exchange, which is a PFF, NFL draft show, Trevor Sikama, and Connor Rogers, they do a great job, really good show.
- 1:29[SPEAKER_00]: They did a mock draft for the Jaguars, pretty round mock draft.
- 1:34[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to just talk about that one.
- 1:36[SPEAKER_00]: here today.
- 1:38[SPEAKER_00]: Talk about who they drafted, all that good stuff.
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- 2:01[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, let's dive into this mock draft.
- 2:04[SPEAKER_00]: really interesting stuff.
- 2:05[SPEAKER_00]: The Jaguar is they have four picks right now in the first three rounds on the PFF mock draft simulator.
- 2:12[SPEAKER_00]: They do not have a first round pick traded the 2026 first round pick in the Travis Hunter deal.
- 2:20[SPEAKER_00]: And I know there's some ridiculous national narratives and people out there talking about how that was a wasted pick.
- 2:26[SPEAKER_00]: All that stuff.
- 2:27[SPEAKER_00]: I for one,
- 2:29[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really, really excited that you get to kind of put Travis Hunter now back into the picture after you lost him for the second half of the season, you get him back now.
- 2:40[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the biggest pivot points and questions that we don't really know the answer to is what exactly the Jaguars are going to do with Travis Hunter.
- 2:50[SPEAKER_00]: And you obviously talk about
- 2:52[SPEAKER_00]: the draft.
- 2:53[SPEAKER_00]: You have to talk about free agency as well.
- 2:56[SPEAKER_00]: What's going to happen there?
- 2:57[SPEAKER_00]: What are your team needs actually going to be once you get to the draft?
- 3:01[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's a lot of impending free agents on the Jaguar's roster.
- 3:06[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them will stick around, some of them won't.
- 3:09[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't know which ones will be there and which ones won't.
- 3:13[SPEAKER_00]: So, those are pieces you have to factor in when you're doing a mock draft.
- 3:21[SPEAKER_00]: You have to factor in need, you have to factor in talent.
- 3:24[SPEAKER_00]: Now that we kind of seemingly have a feel for what the type of people, this regime is going to be looking forward, which is like football, die hard.
- 3:37[SPEAKER_00]: Like football is everything for them, type of guys.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_00]: Team first, type of guys.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_00]: You can kind of start to understand what they're looking for
- 3:51[SPEAKER_00]: identify players that they would be fond of.
- 3:54[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
- 3:56[SPEAKER_00]: So the guys over at NFL draft stock exchange with the 59th pick, which is the first pick right now for the Jaguars, they went with Dominique Orange, the defensive tackle out of Iowa State.
- 4:14[SPEAKER_00]: And that's really interesting
- 4:18[SPEAKER_00]: He's a nose tackle type, he's 320 plus pounds, he's big, he's physical, strong hands, great run defender, can hold up against double teams, can really destroy one-on-one blocks in the run game.
- 4:33[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's gonna be like an impact past Russia at the next level, I think there will be flashes.
- 4:39[SPEAKER_00]: But,
- 4:40[SPEAKER_00]: The guy I'm describing sounds a lot like Devon Hamilton, right?
- 4:44[SPEAKER_00]: And Devon Hamilton has come an often incredible year where he was the anchor, the nose of the best-run defense and football.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_00]: And to me, there's no argument.
- 4:59[SPEAKER_00]: The Jaguars have the best-run defense in the NFL right now.
- 5:02[SPEAKER_00]: They do, or they did.
- 5:03[SPEAKER_00]: And he was at the heart of that.
- 5:10[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to draft his replacement when he's still under contract?
- 5:14[SPEAKER_00]: You're not putting those guys on the field together.
- 5:17[SPEAKER_00]: Very often, if ever, because I mean, they're going to be trying to fulfill the same role for you.
- 5:23[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you could be drafting him for the future.
- 5:26[SPEAKER_00]: Like 2027, you bring him in, you get him ready to go in 2026, and he can be your
- 5:40[SPEAKER_00]: at 59, with your first pick, you're going to draft a developmental role player, and I don't mean developmental in terms of like his actual ability to get on the field.
- 5:52[SPEAKER_00]: I think he get on the field in his work a year and make an impact as a run defender, but you're not going to need that unless you cut the Vaughn Hamilton.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_00]: If you cut him, pre-June 1, you're not getting anything.
- 6:04[SPEAKER_00]: If you cut him post-June 1, I believe you can save a little bit.
- 6:10[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you cut the Von Hamilton post June one, you could save eight million dollars against the cap in 2026, but that eight million doesn't come till after June 1st.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like you're getting it for that that free agent time period in March.
- 6:29[SPEAKER_00]: You're getting it for.
- 6:33[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you could get into a free agency more in the summer.
- 6:37[SPEAKER_00]: That money could help you, or that cap space could help you with signing your draft class, right?
- 6:43[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll tell you what, I'm not cutting to Von Hamilton right now.
- 6:49[SPEAKER_00]: No way.
- 6:52[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that they should.
- 6:54[SPEAKER_00]: He's 28 years old.
- 6:55[SPEAKER_00]: He's in his prime.
- 6:56[SPEAKER_00]: He just had an insane year for you as a run defender.
- 7:04[SPEAKER_00]: cameras not want to be my friend today, losing focus here.
- 7:08[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I just, I don't really see a world where, because again, no stack will, it is a role playing position.
- 7:16[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like a full time you want them on the field all the time, type of position.
- 7:21[SPEAKER_00]: So drafting one of those guys that high anyways in the second round is a bit early and then drafting one when you don't
- 7:35[SPEAKER_00]: So, I like the player.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_00]: I think he can fulfill the role that we're talking about.
- 7:42[SPEAKER_00]: I do think he's a good athlete at his size.
- 7:44[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think he has some foot quickness and just that explosiveness at his size that is impressive.
- 7:51[SPEAKER_00]: But he's not getting to Von Hamilton off the field and he's not gonna be a primary pass rusher from the interior.
- 7:57[SPEAKER_00]: So,
- 7:57[SPEAKER_00]: You're just talking about a Devon Hamilton replacement for the future, and I don't really see the need for that that early.
- 8:06[SPEAKER_00]: So to me, that would be a whiff.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_00]: And look, there's gonna be a lot of mock drafts out there this year where I don't agree with things.
- 8:16[SPEAKER_00]: I could be wrong.
- 8:17[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows, maybe Dominique Orange is the player that the Jaguar's take with the 59th overall pick.
- 8:22[SPEAKER_00]: That would shock me.
- 8:24[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I don't agree with this one.
- 8:29[SPEAKER_00]: didn't make much sense.
- 8:31[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next one also doesn't make any sense to me.
- 8:36[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe even more so.
- 8:40[SPEAKER_00]: And now one thing I will say, you can't just look at team need and say, well, the jag wars are good at this position or they're they're fine at this position, so they can't upgrade it.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's not what you're doing.
- 8:52[SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to find the best players that can make the most impact
- 8:59[SPEAKER_00]: But taking a safety, Emmanuel McNeil Warren out of Toledo, who is a fun player, big time producer, right?
- 9:12[SPEAKER_00]: Has ball skills, gives his hands on the football, makes a lot of plays, good run defender, explosive, I don't know how taking a safety at 81 makes sense.
- 9:31[SPEAKER_00]: So with your first two picks here, you're not taking players that can make an impact in my opinion, cause that safety, the Jaguar has have Antonio Johnson, who they want on the field.
- 9:43[SPEAKER_00]: They have obviously Caleb Ransal coming back from injury who they drafted to B.A.
- 9:51[SPEAKER_00]: Starter for them in the third round last year.
- 9:56[SPEAKER_00]: missed the season with the injury.
- 9:58[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's nothing you can do about that, but there's no reason to believe that he's not gonna be able to come back and be an impact player, but then you also have Eric Murray, who's under contract for the next two years.
- 10:09[SPEAKER_00]: 2026 and 2027.
- 10:12[SPEAKER_00]: And you also have, round lane.
- 10:18[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm trying, I mean, I guess if you want to make the argument,
- 10:25[SPEAKER_00]: Not someone that should stop you from drafting a player.
- 10:28[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with that, okay?
- 10:33[SPEAKER_00]: I think you want Antonio Johnson as a starter next year for sure, for the next couple years, with his under contract.
- 10:38[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's where I'm at.
- 10:41[SPEAKER_00]: He was the highest rated safety and football this year by PFF.
- 10:46[SPEAKER_00]: And then you want Caleb Ransal on the field too.
- 10:48[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing you could say about Caleb Ransal is he's dealt with injuries throughout his career.
- 10:54[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe you'd draft another safety because you love the player, A and B.
- 11:03[SPEAKER_00]: You're worried about Ransal's injuries.
- 11:08[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, it seems like a reach to me though, not from a talent standpoint there, but just like, how does that impact your team?
- 11:20[SPEAKER_00]: How does that get, how does that really make you better?
- 11:25[SPEAKER_00]: Because Antonio Johnson's on the field and Caleb Ransal when he's healthy, I think he's on the field.
- 11:32[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't really get it.
- 11:39[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking up Caleb Ransal's injury history.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_00]: So he missed this year with the knee.
- 11:46[SPEAKER_00]: And I know he had some injuries earlier in his career in college as well.
- 11:56[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe, maybe that's what you could make the argument.
- 12:02[SPEAKER_00]: But even then you do have Eric Murray and Ray on lane still.
- 12:06[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, I like to play a lot.
- 12:09[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not saying anything negative about that part of it.
- 12:14[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know how a safety.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_00]: how a run defending defensive tackle and a safety is the best use of your resources here if you're the jack wars.
- 12:29[SPEAKER_00]: That's not really tracking for me.
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- 13:49[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I just don't see how taken a safety and a and a no-stacle.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_00]: is really the play early on for the jacks even if you like the players and I do I do kind of like them.
- 14:06[SPEAKER_00]: I think 59's probably a little early for oranges roll in the NFL though.
- 14:12[SPEAKER_00]: Not egregious but now the next one two more picks here right Seth McGowan running back
- 14:26[SPEAKER_00]: And so Liam Cohen will be plugged in with this guy's story for sure.
- 14:30[SPEAKER_00]: He's still got connections at Kentucky.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_00]: And Seth McGowan has a crazy story.
- 14:35[SPEAKER_00]: And they talked about it.
- 14:37[SPEAKER_00]: And I have the link for the episode.
- 14:39[SPEAKER_00]: from the NFL draft stock exchange in the description below.
- 14:44[SPEAKER_00]: They talked about his story, but got in trouble with the law, lost football, his had to work his way back up from like going to super small school, a little bit bigger and then got to Kentucky and he played his butt off this year, really cool to see his story and like he lost everything, had to go to jail, got charged with a felony.
- 15:07[SPEAKER_00]: I think they said larceny at Oklahoma, but he's grown so much, according to Trevor Sigma, he realized what he lost and where his life was having, he didn't think he was going to get football back and he's kind of been just this example of redemption being able to have that redemption story.
- 15:33[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that that's the type of player person that the Jaguar's could possibly get on board with, which is an exciting part of it.
- 15:40[SPEAKER_00]: But then the running back as well, he is a tough runner.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_00]: And I think,
- 15:51[SPEAKER_00]: Trevor mentioned this like he reminds him a little bit of Travis ET and size wise I think some of that's there and that's some of that explosiveness just that short area burst so difficult to get down on the ground he was very productive it can can tuck you this year a little bit older of her prospect but I don't think that really matters that running back especially not a ton of tread on the tires for him but he was a four-star recruit and you know
- 16:18[SPEAKER_00]: At Oklahoma, they got kicked out, jail, probation, and all that stuff, worked his way back and finished over at Kentucky in 2025, and good football player now.
- 16:31[SPEAKER_00]: One thing about him, I'm not sure how the Jaguars would feel from a skillset standpoint.
- 16:39[SPEAKER_00]: His hands are entirely unreliable.
- 16:46[SPEAKER_00]: In 2025, he dropped five of 26 targets.
- 16:51[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, his drop rate was over 20%.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_00]: In 2024, at New Mexico, stay he dropped over 10% of his targets too.
- 16:59[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's a bit sketchy.
- 17:06[SPEAKER_00]: That's a bit sketchy.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_00]: And I haven't watched his past pro yet, but the numbers do not suggest that he's very good in that department.
- 17:15[SPEAKER_00]: Not running back.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you sign Travis CTN, obviously, if you don't need to worry about running back on day two, my gut tells me this is not insider information or anything.
- 17:29[SPEAKER_00]: My gut is telling me ETN's probably going to play somewhere else next year.
- 17:35[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to try to keep Devon Lloyd and I think ETN will probably play somewhere else, but.
- 17:41[SPEAKER_00]: If James Ladsstone follows what the Rams have been doing, I mean, the Rams have not valued off while I'm back or at all, but they have shown that they'll sign a running back.
- 17:50[SPEAKER_00]: So it could be the exact opposite of what I'm thinking is going to happen, but I'm thinking Devin Lloyd is going to be in Jacksonville next year.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_00]: And Travis E.T.
- 17:58[SPEAKER_00]: is not.
- 17:59[SPEAKER_00]: And those are the two big money free agents that you're kind of thinking about a lot right now.
- 18:03[SPEAKER_00]: But let's just for arguments say that Travis E.T.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_00]: And so you're looking at a running back on day two of the draft, because you want to supplement what you have with Basel Tutan and Lee Quit Allen.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not even convinced that you need to get one on day two, honestly, because I really do have a ton of confidence in Basel Tutan and Lee Quit Allen.
- 18:28[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I would be not shocked if they feel the same way.
- 18:35[SPEAKER_00]: And so they
- 18:37[SPEAKER_00]: Again, they're not going to just make their decisions based off of need.
- 18:40[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to try to draft players in people that they really like.
- 18:44[SPEAKER_00]: So if there's a running back that they just absolutely love on day two, I don't think that Tutan or Alan is going to stop them from making that pick.
- 18:55[SPEAKER_00]: But I know they love Alan and Tutan as well.
- 18:58[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe they don't even draft one until day three with with ETN gone.
- 19:02[SPEAKER_00]: That's a possibility too.
- 19:06[SPEAKER_00]: But I like Seth McGowan as a runner.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_00]: I think the story is really interesting.
- 19:11[SPEAKER_00]: The seemingly lack of ability to impact the game positively outside of just toting the rock could be a pretty big negative for them, for the Jack Wars in their evaluation of this player.
- 19:26[SPEAKER_00]: He also doesn't, I'm not saying he can't have special teams value, but he hasn't in college
- 19:38[SPEAKER_00]: So, those are some dings for sure on the, on the scouting report that you got to kind of work work through.
- 19:46[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there might be backs that have a more complete skill set that they would like more, a more versatile skill set.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_00]: And then this pick, I can't stay there at 100,
- 20:07[SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy who just is not ready to play at the NFL level in my opinion.
- 20:16[SPEAKER_00]: He's had some decent games throughout his career and he was at Nevada and then transferred to Oregon this year.
- 20:22[SPEAKER_00]: But when he went up against big time competition this year, especially down the stretch, camera went out of focus again, what are you going to do?
- 20:33[SPEAKER_00]: Mondays in my right?
- 20:37[SPEAKER_00]: cameras just not wanting to cooperate.
- 20:40[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.
- 20:42[SPEAKER_00]: So, as a world, he's big, he's six foot eight, three hundred almost 320 pounds, but he's just not a consistent player.
- 20:52[SPEAKER_00]: Not a consistent player in any way shape or form.
- 20:54[SPEAKER_00]: His hands are just all over the place, man.
- 20:57[SPEAKER_00]: And Texas tack in Indiana to really good teams that they played the last two games.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys made him look bad.
- 21:05[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys made them really, really bad.
- 21:08[SPEAKER_00]: And an offensive lineman for me, who has no baseline of fundamentals is really difficult to get excited about, even if they do have a lot of talent.
- 21:21[SPEAKER_00]: That's just a difficult one for me.
- 21:24[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really see it.
- 21:26[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, sorry, Camerigan.
- 21:31[SPEAKER_00]: That's before you've been mentioning the fact
- 21:36[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need an offensive tackle.
- 21:39[SPEAKER_00]: They don't.
- 21:41[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they just sign COVID-19 to be their starting left tackle.
- 21:46[SPEAKER_00]: They have Anton Harrison, Walker Little is still under contract.
- 21:49[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what are we doing here?
- 21:51[SPEAKER_00]: If anything, they need guard.
- 21:53[SPEAKER_00]: So when I'm looking at this draft, again, a big question mark is like, his Travis Hunter and what they're going to be doing with him.
- 22:03[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Greg Newsome and Buster Brown are both free agents.
- 22:06[SPEAKER_00]: My gut is that Buster Brown will be back and that Greg Newsome won't be.
- 22:10[SPEAKER_00]: If you're rolling Travis as a legitimate starter on both sides, I mean, great.
- 22:17[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need wider silver or cornerback necessarily.
- 22:20[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're focusing more on one side than the other, my guess would be it would be cornerback over wider silver.
- 22:28[SPEAKER_00]: Travis Hunter, Buster Brown, Jarian Jones, Jordan Lewis.
- 22:32[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're good at corner.
- 22:35[SPEAKER_00]: But do we feel good at receiver?
- 22:40[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, love Jacobi, love Parker, Britain Strange is receiving tight end.
- 22:49[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's gonna be fascinating to see how they feel about BTJ this off season.
- 22:54[SPEAKER_00]: My gut would tell me,
- 22:58[SPEAKER_00]: try to roll with him moving forward, but do you need, could the jackwares have used a legitimate number one receiver yesterday?
- 23:09[SPEAKER_00]: This is as much as I love Jacobi, his skill set is not that of a top 10 number one receiver in the NFL.
- 23:22[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be really good for you.
- 23:24[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of the time most weeks and in most situations he's going to be able to get the job done, but when you when you need a true number alpha number one receiver, he's not always going to be able to be that for you and he usually will, but so I think receiver is an interesting topic, especially if Travis Hunter is playing primarily corner, what's going to happen with
- 23:54[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be looking at guard for sure.
- 23:59[SPEAKER_00]: And I know you have Cleveland and McCarray and you're drafted by a mile am Ilam and you have Jonah Monheim at Center behind Robert Hainesy so like you have some depth there on the offensive line but I think they need to find some players that can elevate what they have.
- 24:21[SPEAKER_00]: Like this offseason was a lot about raising the floor, and they talked about that.
- 24:26[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think you've raised the floor.
- 24:29[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you go from there?
- 24:32[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of the question.
- 24:34[SPEAKER_00]: But that'll do it.
- 24:36[SPEAKER_00]: Really appreciate y'all tuning in, just kind of thought experiment, going along with also taking a look at the NFL draft.
- 24:42[SPEAKER_00]: Stock exchange, three round mock draft for the Jaguars.
- 24:46[SPEAKER_00]: So again, thank you so much.
- 24:48[SPEAKER_00]: Y'all have a good one.