Latest / Financial Survival Network / West Red Lake Getting Ready to Restart Production & Cash Flow at Madsen Mine w/CEO Shane Williamson
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And we're probably one of the only projects coming into
- 0:03Speaker 1: production in Canada in particular, you know, and coming into
- 0:06Speaker 1: production on a rising gold prize that midnext year gold
- 0:10Speaker 1: would be three thousand and that's a perfect time now
- 0:13Speaker 1: when you get an uplift, as you know, from moving
- 0:15Speaker 1: from explorer to developer and then to producer, and that's
- 0:19Speaker 1: a perfect time to get in on the story and
- 0:21Speaker 1: follow the story as we're successful to run up the project.
- 0:24Speaker 2: The Financial Survival Network now more than ever, the Financial
- 0:33Speaker 2: Survival Network. And welcome. This is Financial Survival Network.
- 0:39Speaker 3: I'm your host, Carrie Lutz, bringing you a major update
- 0:44Speaker 3: from our sponsor at West red Lake Gold Mines and
- 0:48Speaker 3: CEO president Shane Williams with us now, Hane, appreciate you
- 0:52Speaker 3: coming on now. I know it's the end of the year.
- 0:55Speaker 3: You've got so many things going on and you're trying
- 0:59Speaker 3: to wrap things up that your PFS is coming out.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Can you just bring us up to date on the
- 1:05Speaker 2: mind restart.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, as we get towards that back end of
- 1:09Speaker 1: the year, we're really focused on, you know, getting ready
- 1:13Speaker 1: for that restart. There's a lot of parallel activities. We
- 1:16Speaker 1: just had a press we're doing a kind of a
- 1:19Speaker 1: monthly now construction update. We released another one this morning.
- 1:23Speaker 1: People can see the level of antensity. There's parallel activities ongoing.
- 1:28Speaker 4: So we're really coming to the peak of that.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Restart activities now as we get in towards Christmas and
- 1:35Speaker 1: into the new year. We've been doing obviously most of
- 1:38Speaker 1: this year, we've done a lot of drilling out of definition.
- 1:41Speaker 1: We went and got a lot of projects capital approach,
- 1:44Speaker 1: and they're all really coming together now.
- 1:45Speaker 4: Towards the back end of the year and into the
- 1:47Speaker 4: first quarter.
- 1:48Speaker 1: So yeah, busy and exciting times, Western Lake.
- 1:52Speaker 3: Can you give us an approximate date here, and not
- 1:54Speaker 3: to pin you down and I don't want you to
- 1:56Speaker 3: be over promised and not be able to come, but
- 2:00Speaker 3: give us an approximate date range.
- 2:03Speaker 4: Yeah, So the plan is towards.
- 2:04Speaker 1: The middle of next year, you know, the middle of
- 2:07Speaker 1: next year Q one. We have finished off all our
- 2:09Speaker 1: capital projects. We're starting some test mining, to do some
- 2:12Speaker 1: test mining, et cetera on a bul example, and then
- 2:15Speaker 1: once they're in place, our pfense is coming out in
- 2:19Speaker 1: early January, you know. And so those three activities together
- 2:24Speaker 1: set us up nicely for restart, which would be into
- 2:28Speaker 1: middle to the back end of next year twenty twenty five.
- 2:31Speaker 3: So you've done this before. This is nothing new for you. You're
- 2:34Speaker 3: not learning on the job here. But every mind has
- 2:38Speaker 3: its own particular challenges, its own things that make you
- 2:42Speaker 3: run to pull out your hair. What are the challenges
- 2:45Speaker 3: been here? The biggest challenges to you?
- 2:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done this five times, Carrie. This is my
- 2:50Speaker 1: fifth mind restart, so there's been a lot of a
- 2:54Speaker 1: lot of it.
- 2:54Speaker 4: And you're right, everyone has its own unique challenges. For me,
- 2:59Speaker 4: we been lucky.
- 3:00Speaker 1: A lot of it is getting understanding of your learning,
- 3:03Speaker 1: the lessons of the of the of the previous operator.
- 3:07Speaker 4: You know, that's key. You know a lot of that,
- 3:09Speaker 4: a lot of that.
- 3:10Speaker 1: It took a long time to get into the detail
- 3:12Speaker 1: and understand what were the key boxes that they that
- 3:16Speaker 1: need needed to be addressed for us to be successful,
- 3:19Speaker 1: and that's taken quite a while. The majority of it
- 3:22Speaker 1: was around that drilling understanding of the your body, getting
- 3:25Speaker 1: that level of definition, So that's really been the technical challenge.
- 3:28Speaker 4: Everything else was.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Really reasonably okay. You know, they have a good mill,
- 3:32Speaker 1: they have a good infrastructure on site, but it was
- 3:35Speaker 1: really the understanding of your body and spending the time
- 3:38Speaker 1: and the detailed effort to really understand that and now
- 3:41Speaker 1: get the mining kind of going. They've been the real
- 3:45Speaker 1: technical challenges as well in in the area on the project.
- 3:49Speaker 2: So the devil's always in the details.
- 3:51Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it's always in the detail. I I compared
- 3:54Speaker 4: it to it like an orchestrat.
- 3:56Speaker 1: There's a lot of different moving parts and individual things
- 3:59Speaker 1: have come together at the right time to be successful
- 4:03Speaker 1: on a mind and.
- 4:04Speaker 3: You've got to be watching all those players make sure
- 4:07Speaker 3: that they're all on the same page playing the same tune, right, Yeah.
- 4:12Speaker 4: They all have to be playing the same tune.
- 4:13Speaker 3: Nine.
- 4:13Speaker 1: They all have to be in sync, you know, so
- 4:16Speaker 1: they all come together. As I said, the number of
- 4:18Speaker 1: Capitol projects, we underground development, we've underground drilling obviously, we've
- 4:24Speaker 1: financing raising the financing in parallel, it all really has
- 4:27Speaker 1: to come together to that mid next year sort of
- 4:30Speaker 1: restart process.
- 4:32Speaker 3: And right there and in the meantime, you haven't been
- 4:35Speaker 3: standing still. You're still doing exploration work and got a
- 4:40Speaker 3: nice nice intersect on the Upper eight target. Yeah.
- 4:45Speaker 1: I think that's a story that you know, we focused
- 4:47Speaker 1: on this year around the restart to the risking et cetera.
- 4:51Speaker 4: But I think that's a story that we're going to
- 4:53Speaker 4: push a little bit more.
- 4:54Speaker 1: There's huge exploration upside associated with Madson that's never.
- 4:59Speaker 4: Really been done, and so this was one area that.
- 5:02Speaker 1: The team focused on this uperade. As people probably aware
- 5:06Speaker 1: of the Lower eight, it was a very high grade
- 5:08Speaker 1: zone within Red Lake and within within the mats and
- 5:11Speaker 1: mind and the team I found in that there are
- 5:13Speaker 1: a number of these high grade zones throughout the mine
- 5:16Speaker 1: and one of them is this operade zone and we've
- 5:19Speaker 1: we've had quite a few good hits there and the
- 5:21Speaker 1: team are continuing to drill. So I expect this to grow.
- 5:25Speaker 1: And remember it's a high graded part of the your body,
- 5:28Speaker 1: and so high grade makes a big difference in these minds,
- 5:31Speaker 1: as your viewers would probably know, and so that makes
- 5:34Speaker 1: a big difference from an announced profile and the ability
- 5:37Speaker 1: to grow and push the project larger.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, we got some intersects twenty one plus grams,
- 5:44Speaker 3: fifty two, twenty three and they're meaningful.
- 5:48Speaker 4: Yeah, they're meaningful.
- 5:50Speaker 1: You know, you get a twenty five gram sort of
- 5:53Speaker 1: overbody and you're bringing in that material the mats and
- 5:55Speaker 1: overall at about a seven gram you're getting an overall
- 5:58Speaker 1: average grade of ten to eleven grams, a very high
- 6:00Speaker 1: grade mine in Canada today.
- 6:02Speaker 4: How to be up there on the top high grade
- 6:03Speaker 4: mines in Canada.
- 6:04Speaker 1: And that generates huge cash flow in the current market
- 6:07Speaker 1: prices today. Right.
- 6:09Speaker 3: So meantime, you mentioned you're finishing up the capital projects here.
- 6:15Speaker 3: I think I'd never heard this term before connection drift,
- 6:19Speaker 3: but it makes total sense. So you're kind of unifying
- 6:21Speaker 3: the two ramps that are there now, the east and
- 6:24Speaker 3: the west.
- 6:25Speaker 1: So yeah, they were kind of operated as individual two
- 6:28Speaker 1: and if you think of it like two individual mines,
- 6:30Speaker 1: underground mines that were kind of operated individually and or
- 6:35Speaker 1: had to be hauled all the way to surface and
- 6:37Speaker 1: then transported across by different trucks across surface trucks. And
- 6:42Speaker 1: so the connection of those from an underground perspective opens
- 6:46Speaker 1: up huge possibilities. Not only does it allow efficient movement
- 6:50Speaker 1: of ore, but it also allows exploration in that area
- 6:54Speaker 1: between the two mines, and there's a lot of prospectivity
- 6:57Speaker 1: between those two areas that never really had access to
- 7:00Speaker 1: get the drills. So I know our team and our
- 7:02Speaker 1: mind side team and geo team are very excited about
- 7:05Speaker 1: that the ability to drill those but also from an
- 7:08Speaker 1: efficiency point of view, it does open up a lot of.
- 7:10Speaker 3: Opportunity, right, and so that there's where the mill is constructed,
- 7:18Speaker 3: there appears to be a big target under the mill.
- 7:22Speaker 4: Yeah, there is. There's a lot.
- 7:23Speaker 1: There's a lot of targets in that area and in
- 7:27Speaker 1: numerous different areas, and this connection drift allows access to
- 7:30Speaker 1: some of those areas, allows that to open up those
- 7:34Speaker 1: areas and that take those targets close to the infrastructure
- 7:38Speaker 1: and close the surface.
- 7:40Speaker 3: So you got your primary crusher in and that's always
- 7:43Speaker 3: a good sign because that always happens towards the end
- 7:46Speaker 3: of the process, right before the restart, right.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's the first part of the chain of processing.
- 7:54Speaker 1: And so you know, we, as I said, in parallel
- 7:57Speaker 1: with our d risking approach, focused on stage approach. And
- 8:02Speaker 1: so the first part that was we bought that crusher.
- 8:05Speaker 1: The previous operator had leased a crusher and they were
- 8:07Speaker 1: running with a contractor. We went down and bought that crusher.
- 8:11Speaker 1: And now what we're doing is we've commissioned it. We're
- 8:14Speaker 1: getting it ready. We're getting it ready for oor or
- 8:17Speaker 1: testing it. We're getting meaning simplayers or for our planned restart.
- 8:21Speaker 3: So you just did a major financing, so I assume
- 8:26Speaker 3: a lot of the money in the treasury that can
- 8:30Speaker 3: see you through the production.
- 8:32Speaker 4: Yeah, we did an equity raise recently.
- 8:36Speaker 1: We've just also agreed on a prelimited time sheet with
- 8:39Speaker 1: a group calling a BARI for a debt facility.
- 8:42Speaker 4: So between the two.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Of those that would give us enough of the money
- 8:47Speaker 1: to move into pre cash flow in the project.
- 8:51Speaker 3: So kind of, I think the market's not really perceiving
- 8:54Speaker 3: how close you are to production, how meaningful that production.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Is going to be.
- 9:00Speaker 3: What do you say when you well, it's the end
- 9:03Speaker 3: of the year, there's tax laws, selling, we know, the
- 9:06Speaker 3: whole thing goes on. It's an annual ritual. But maybe
- 9:10Speaker 3: it's a good time to be looking at the West
- 9:13Speaker 3: red Lake.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a I mean, yeah, Texas setting is a
- 9:17Speaker 1: big thing. Obviously in Canada, stocks come under pressure.
- 9:20Speaker 4: But I agree the market really doesn't know.
- 9:23Speaker 1: You know, we've had a number of project restarts in
- 9:26Speaker 1: Canada recently, you know, last year and year before, but there's.
- 9:30Speaker 4: Very few coming up this year.
- 9:31Speaker 1: You know, because gold had been down for a number
- 9:33Speaker 1: of years, you know, there wasn't that focus. So into
- 9:36Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, there's very few restarts and we're probably
- 9:39Speaker 1: one of the only projects coming into production in Canada
- 9:43Speaker 1: in particular, you know, and coming into production on a
- 9:46Speaker 1: rising gold price. That mid next year gold could be
- 9:49Speaker 1: three thousand, and that's a perfect time now when you
- 9:52Speaker 1: get an uplift as you know, from moving from explorer
- 9:55Speaker 1: to developer and then to produce her and that's a
- 9:59Speaker 1: perfect time to get in and the story and follow
- 10:01Speaker 1: the story as we're successful to rump.
- 10:03Speaker 3: Up the project and the gold prices have been cooperating.
- 10:07Speaker 3: I mean, we hit twenty seven hundred and you know,
- 10:11Speaker 3: now we pulled back a little bit, but it's still
- 10:14Speaker 3: in a bull trend.
- 10:16Speaker 1: It's still in a bull trend, and particularly for producers.
- 10:20Speaker 1: As you know, producers a big producers now are making
- 10:23Speaker 1: lots of free cash flow. You know, they're producing for
- 10:26Speaker 1: aices of fifteen hundred, all is that twoenty six hundred.
- 10:30Speaker 1: There's a lot of margins still there. So as we
- 10:32Speaker 1: move into that production phase, there's also going to be
- 10:35Speaker 1: a lot of marriage for ourselves at the lower end
- 10:37Speaker 1: of the production and that will generate lots of cash
- 10:40Speaker 1: flow for Western Lake.
- 10:41Speaker 2: Shareholders for sure, and what annual production you have any
- 10:48Speaker 2: any how, your.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Production would be around seventy thousand ounces a year, you know,
- 10:53Speaker 1: seventy thousand ounces a year producing aisse of around fourteen hundred.
- 11:00Speaker 1: You know, that's a lot of marriagin in today's cold
- 11:02Speaker 1: price environment.
- 11:03Speaker 3: That's almost a fifty percent margin there, it's a fifty
- 11:07Speaker 3: percent margin.
- 11:08Speaker 1: And will you take a fifty percent margin on free
- 11:11Speaker 1: cash flow and do to metrics, we're very undervalued for
- 11:14Speaker 1: what potentially in six or eight months could be a
- 11:17Speaker 1: completely different story.
- 11:18Speaker 3: Yeah, especially ounces in the ground here that it's very
- 11:23Speaker 3: meaningful when you're close to production, right, very meaningful.
- 11:27Speaker 4: We've over you know, we've won.
- 11:28Speaker 1: We we'll have over one by seven million ounces of
- 11:31Speaker 1: reserves at high grade your seven gram sort of material.
- 11:34Speaker 1: That's very there's not many minds a canon at that
- 11:37Speaker 1: high grade and underground minds.
- 11:40Speaker 2: That's for sure. Well, sure, Oshane, thank you for the update.
- 11:46Speaker 3: Really appreciate you taking time out from this busy time
- 11:49Speaker 3: of year. I suggest you go over to Westredlakegold dot
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- 11:59Speaker 3: in the US and w r LG in Canada. Will
- 12:04Speaker 3: be touching base with you in the coming months. Shamee,
- 12:07Speaker 3: happy and healthy to you and your family.
- 12:10Speaker 1: Excellent, Thank you very much, carrying a look forward to
- 12:13Speaker 1: thank you.
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