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Tom Carey | Alien Biologics Recovered? · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: We're now talking ten years after nineteen eighty, We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about nineteen ninety, right, And so I start receiving the
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  Speaker 1: International UFO Reporter and I read where these two fellas,
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Randall and Donald Schmidt were reopening the investigation of
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  Speaker 1: the Roswell case. I said, ah, great, because I hadn't
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  Speaker 1: heard any more about it. So they had a couple
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  Speaker 1: update articles in there, and one of the stories involved
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  Speaker 1: in the case was that the craft and bodies were
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  Speaker 1: discovered by a group of archaeologists from the University of
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  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania in Philadelphia. Well, Jays, I was living in Huntington
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  Speaker 1: Valley right next to Philadelphia. So I called up Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Randall out of the blue. I said, Kevin, what are
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  Speaker 1: you doing about trying to find the archaeologists from the
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  Speaker 1: universe Pennsylvania. He said, well, we interviewed a couple from
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  Speaker 1: somewhere else. They didn't know anything and they haven't really
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  Speaker 1: done anything. So I said, look, I have two degrees
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  Speaker 1: in anthropology. I was a physical anthropology major, went for
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  Speaker 1: my doctor at the University of Toronto. Came up short,
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  Speaker 1: I was a what do they call? You had your
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  Speaker 1: coursework done, but it didn't have a dissertation topic. I said, look,
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  Speaker 1: I've got experience in anthropology archaeology. Let me go down
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  Speaker 1: to the university at Pennsylvania and see what I can
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  Speaker 1: find out down there. So I did. I took the
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  Speaker 1: train into town one Saturday. This was like nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 1: one now, and I was looking for the archaeologist. That
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  Speaker 1: was my mandate at that point was to try to
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  Speaker 1: find out who the art geologists were. And we had
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  Speaker 1: a couple of leads, two of which I got from
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  Speaker 1: William Moore, the original investigator, and he gave me two
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  Speaker 1: names of archaeologists on staff at the university there, and
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  Speaker 1: I interviewed them both in person. One of the names
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  Speaker 1: was a fellow named Bernard Wales, and he said that
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  Speaker 1: he didn't know anything about it. What am I talking about?
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  Speaker 1: And how did I get his name? I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: one of the investigators gave it to me. The other
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  Speaker 1: fellow was an archaeologist named John Cotter C. O. T. T. E. R.
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  Speaker 1: And he was famous for working at the so called
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  Speaker 1: Clovis Clovis Site. There's a whole tool assemblage named the
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  Speaker 1: Clovis Points, and he worked the Clovis Site archaeological site
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  Speaker 1: near Port tallis, New Mexico. And to make a long
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  Speaker 1: story short, he was involved. He knew all about the case,
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  Speaker 1: but he declined to do at the very end, I said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well what was it? He said, Well, what it was
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  Speaker 1: was a crash of a V two rocket carrying a chimpanzee.
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  Speaker 1: I said, oh, my goodness, this is this is not right,
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  Speaker 1: This is not right, and so I thanked him. And
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  Speaker 1: later on I was able to learn from a a
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  Speaker 1: female former graduate student who had received an MA in
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  Speaker 1: archaeology from Pennsylvania that it was indeed John Cotter who
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  Speaker 1: was at the site, because he told he told his
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  Speaker 1: one of his classes all about it. So that's how
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  Speaker 1: I got involved, besides just reading the books right. In
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, the same year that I became involved
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  Speaker 1: in the investigation, I joined the Randall and Schmidt team.
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  Speaker 1: They published a book called UFO Crash at Roswell. This
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  Speaker 1: is the book that jump started. Remember now, there was
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  Speaker 1: a ten year gap between the Roswell Incident book from
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty to the Randall Schmidt book UFO Crash at
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  Speaker 1: Roswell in nineteen ninety one, eleven year gap. Well, this
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  Speaker 1: book jump started worldwide interests in the subject. Again, I
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  Speaker 1: always point to that nineteen ninety one book. That's being
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  Speaker 1: what jump started everybody's interest because it expanded the knowledge
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  Speaker 1: base so much that the number of witnesses interviewed the
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  Speaker 1: hull ball of act. Yes, and that's when I became
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  Speaker 1: an active investigator with the Randall Schmidt team in the
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  Speaker 1: Roswell case nineteen ninety one.
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  Speaker 2: So is there any evidence that actually points, any kind
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  Speaker 2: of physical evidence that you have seen that points that
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  Speaker 2: this craft that crashed in Roswell was of extraterrestrial origin.
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  Speaker 1: There's no physical evidence Wrider. That's the one thing lacking
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  Speaker 1: in the case. We have no incontrovertible piece of physical evidence,
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  Speaker 1: like a piece of the ship, you know, in private hands.
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  Speaker 1: We do know that all that stuff is in governmental
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  Speaker 1: hands and for the longest period of time, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: explain where that stuff is today, But in private investigations,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's the Randall Schmidt team or the Schmidt Carrey
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  Speaker 1: team or the Stanton Friedman William Moore team, we have
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  Speaker 1: no incontrovertible piece of physical evidence. And by incontrovertible, I
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  Speaker 1: mean that everybody agrees, oh, yes, that's a piece of
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  Speaker 1: physical evidence, we don't have that. But what we do have,
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  Speaker 1: and this is where the Carry team with the Carry
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  Speaker 1: and Schmidt team, I'm sorry, this is where we have.
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  Speaker 1: If you can envision a football field, Okay, envision the
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  Speaker 1: Denver Bronco's football field stadium one hundred yards long, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's one hundred yards from goal to goal. Well, when
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  Speaker 1: the Carrie Schmidt team entered the to continue a proactive
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  Speaker 1: investigation in nineteen ninety eight, because in nineteen ninety seven
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  Speaker 1: they had the fiftieth anniversary of the Roswell crash and
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  Speaker 1: we garnered worldwide interests, worldwide interest in Roswell in New
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  Speaker 1: Mexico the case. But what happened was after the fiftieth
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  Speaker 1: anniversary in nineteen ninety seven, most of the investigators left
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  Speaker 1: the field. That was it. They said, well, there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: more to learn. Well, Don Schmidt and I because we
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  Speaker 1: both belonged to QFOS, and at one of the meetings,
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  Speaker 1: we said, let's let's keep our investigation going. So Schmidt
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  Speaker 1: and I teamed up in nineteen ninety eight to continue
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  Speaker 1: a proactive and I underline that word proactive investigation of
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  Speaker 1: the case. Now what that means is that we weren't
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  Speaker 1: just sitting here like I'm sitting in my office at
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  Speaker 1: home waiting for something to come in. We were out
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  Speaker 1: there shake the tree for witnesses. That was our mandate.
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  Speaker 1: So when we took over that that the case ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: The football was at the Denver Broncos fifty. It was
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  Speaker 1: on the fifty yard line. The football as we sit
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  Speaker 1: here today, Don Schmid and I have moved the football
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  Speaker 1: down to the one yard line. Okay, Denver's about the score.
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  Speaker 1: We moved the ball down to the one yard line.
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  Speaker 1: All we are missing is a piece of physical evidence
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  Speaker 1: to put it over the goal. So that's an analogy.
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  Speaker 1: I hope your viewers understand. We moved the We moved
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  Speaker 1: the case so far from the fifty down to the one,
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  Speaker 1: and we're sort of, you know, we've gone as far
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  Speaker 1: as we can the rider. The only thing we're missing
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  Speaker 1: is a piece of physical evidence we have in our
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  Speaker 1: Our mandate was to track down as many living witnesses
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  Speaker 1: as we could starting you know, Randall and Schmidt started
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  Speaker 1: around nineteen ninety Carrie and Schmidt started around nineteen ninety eight.
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  Speaker 1: Carrie and Schmidt, we are sitting on over six hundred
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  Speaker 1: first and second hand witnesses. There's no other case that's
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  Speaker 1: so thoroughly investigated as our case. Over six hundred first
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  Speaker 1: and second hand witnesses to this one event. Now all
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  Speaker 1: of the first hand witnesses, I have to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: are dead. Now, they're all as far as we know.
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  Speaker 1: There may be someone out there that we never you know,
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  Speaker 1: contacted or tried to contact. There may be someone after
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  Speaker 1: still alive, but we don't know it, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: all the ones that we interviewed are gone. And even
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  Speaker 1: the second hand witnesses, like children of the first hand
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  Speaker 1: even they're starting to go to number of those have
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  Speaker 1: already passed away. So we're sitting here we you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's no place further that we we We've got
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  Speaker 1: the case nailed rider from the crash site to when
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  Speaker 1: the wreckage and bodies were taken to the Roswell Army
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  Speaker 1: Airfield in Roswell, when they were flown to Fort Worth,
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  Speaker 1: when they were then flown to Wright Patterson Air Force
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  Speaker 1: Bayton Bright Patterson Air Force Space in Dayton, Ohio, to
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  Speaker 1: at some point they was they were transferred to Area
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  Speaker 1: fifty one, and today we know they're not at Area
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  Speaker 1: fifty one anymore. But we know where we know where
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  Speaker 1: they're at, we know where the where the wreckage is at,
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  Speaker 1: we know where the bodies are at Big Aerospace right, Yes, yes, absolutely,