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Mega Edition: A Look Back At The Ghislaine Maxwell Trial (Part 2) (7/13/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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Hope that everybody had a great weekend out there, got
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yourselves nice and recharged and prepared for the week to come. Now,
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last week, we heard some pretty explosive testimony from Juana Lessi,
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Jeffrey Epstein's at ex butler slash housekeeper. We also heard
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testimony from a couple of the police officers who were
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involved in the first raid of Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach
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house in two thousand and five. We heard from one
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of the accusers, one of the survivors themselves, and we
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also heard from several other people. Now this next week,
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I expect it to be more of the same. I
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would hope though, that the prosecution swings a very big
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hammer in this upcoming week, because I have to be
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honest with you, folks, I am not too confident in
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the prosecution. I am not too confident in the federal government.
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And the more the case moves forward, and the more
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we see the pattern of the defense just absolutely hammering
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every witness that's brought up by the prosecution, I would
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hope that the prosecution has a few big swings of
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their own coming up because I didn't see much of that.
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In week one, I saw, you know, some pretty devastating
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testimony being given by Jane and the specialists as far
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as the police officers who were involved in the first
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rad they offered some nice context. But I've never been
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a fan of Juana Lessi's and I think that he
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is a pretty weak witness. Now, he does establish that
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these girls, or at least some of these girls were
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at the property, were there with Maxwell. He did establish
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some of that stuff right and build a bit of
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a foundation, but it was also broad to light that
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he stole money from Epstein, tried to steal a gun
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from Epstein, all kinds of other things that you know,
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the defense is going to latch onto. Now, with that said,
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no witness is perfect, right, You're not going to have
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a perfect witness who comes up there and gives the
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perfect testimony, and a lot of times when someone does,
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that's a bit concerning too, right, because you're wondering, is
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this stage did they fake this? Did they come up
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with this as part of some sort of scam or plot?
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So I just think that the defense is using a
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scorched earth policy right now, and I can't really blame them. Honestly,
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they don't really have any other way to go. But
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I still find it to be gross and disgusting. Now,
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not so much when they're hamming bring people like a Lessie,
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by the way, want a Lessi's fair game up on
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that stand, and he should get absolutely hammered by both sides.
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And that goes for every single one of these witnesses.
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I think that when you have a survivor up there, however,
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perhaps the absolute destruction of their character is not the
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right way to go. And again, this is just somebody
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who is observing this right. I'm not a lawyer. I
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you know, I took a criminal justice one oh one
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in college and decided very quickly that that wasn't the
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pathway for me. So again, I'm certainly not a lawyer.
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I'm not a journalist. I just curate this news and
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comment on it. But you know, you would think that
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the defense is going to continue on this path, and
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it's going to be up to the prosecution to bite
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down on their mouthpiece and really come out swinging, because
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they're going to have to push the ball here. They're
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going to have to really set the tone. And I
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hope that as we move forward and into this week,
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they're going to bring some more witnesses up to the
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stand that are going to do just that because they're
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building the foundation. I could see the way the prosecution's going, right.
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We can all see how they're building these blocks to
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continue their argument to frame it as Maxwell not only
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was Epstein's buddy, but that she also had a leadership
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role here and took part in abusing these girls. So
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I could see what they're doing. I can see how
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they're trying to build this case, but I don't think
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that they're going hard enough. Like I've said a million
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times before, this should be a Rico case. There's not
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even a doubt about it in my mind. And that
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was just reaffirmed to me over the weekend when I
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was talking to one of my friends from high school
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who is a lawyer, and him and I were having
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a pretty detailed conversation about Rico in general and talking
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about this case specifically, and he said the same thing
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that he has just it blows him away that this
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is not a Rico case. It has all of the
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hallmarks everything you look for. And if he was a prosecutor,
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he said that he would have for sure pursued this
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as a RICO case. But for some reason, I'll leave
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that up to you all to decide. Everybody has their
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own opinion as to why. But for some reason they
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decided that RICO wasn't necessary here. It was necessary for r. Kelly,
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it was necessary for Keith Rainiery and Alison Mack, but
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it's not necessary for Jeffrey Epstein, Gallaine Maxwell and their
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criminal enterprise. So I'll let everybody else, you know, figure
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out why, or you know, come up with their own
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inclusions as to why. But for me, it's rather obvious,
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right they're making sure that all of this dirty laundry
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does not get aired. This is as dirty of the
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laundry as they want out there. They understand very very
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very much so that it looks so bad for the
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federal government what went on here. It looks so bad
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for the United States government how they conducted themselves here,
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that if the doors were really blown off of this thing,
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and it was really investigated with a financial angle, that
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it would be impossible for them to keep the lid
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on it, and it would really expose the whole entire
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financial system as the joke that it is, as the
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scam that it is, and really, honestly, it is rigged
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against all of us. Now, I know a lot of
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you out there sitting there saying, what are you talking about.
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I have a great credit, I've never had any issues
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with the bank. I don't mean your local branch, Okay,
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I don't mean on a one on one basis. I'm
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talking about the big picture. Who do you think is
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funding all of these jerk off politicians? Who do you
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think is making the needle move? Certainly not me or you.
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You think your one hundred dollars donation, your thousand dollars
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donation to your favorite politician really means anything in the
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long term, doesn't These people in the financial sector, all
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of Jeffrey Epstein's buddies like Jess Staley and Leon Black
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and the rest of the people at JP Morgan and
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Deutsche Bank, all of these people that were facilitating Epstein's
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money moves. All of these people who are facilitating the
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money moves of ola garks and scumbag criminals around the world,
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they do it with impunity, folks. There's never any backlash
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for them. You know how the boomerang's supposed to come
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back around and you catch them. It doesn't because they
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have a bunch of money, because they have a bunch
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of friends, and instead of them being held liable as
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far as criminal, they end up just paying huge, gigantic
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fines and moving on with their lives and continuing to
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do what they do. So when we're looking at this trial, right,
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I'm not one of the people that's going to sit
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here and say, ah, this is horrible. This is because
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it's a good thing at the very least to have
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Maxwell on trial, right, I'm not going to downplay that.
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But the fact of the matter is it does not
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go far enough. And that's not me just saying it, right.
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That is what the survivors themselves are saying. That's what
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people who have been following the case from the jumper saying.
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And if you want real justice and you want to
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really bring people to heal, people to be held responsible
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for their behavior with Jeffrey Epstein, the one pathway towards
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doing that, to make sure everybody involved is caught up
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is through the financial back door. But they won't do it,
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and they've already said this has nothing to do with
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the finances of Jeffrey Epstein. Meanwhile, Darren Endyke and Richard Kahn,
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who are in charge of the estate. Mind you, had
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their fingerprints over the whole entire operation. So I get
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it when people look at this case, they look at
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the overall picture and say it's a joke, because really,
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there's never been any justice administered here. And now you
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look at this Galaine Maxwell trial, not as much transparency
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as there should be. No call in number unless you're
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one of the few people that are in that room
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in the courtroom, you really don't know the actual scoop
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unless you're getting it served to you. And I don't
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like that. I don't like having to rely on other
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people to tell me what's going on. I am not
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a fan of it, and it's one of the main
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reasons I started looking into this case in the first place.
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I'm tired of being lied to point blank, period, and
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I know most of you out there feel the same way. Now,
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that doesn't mean people are always going to get it right,
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doesn't mean I'm always going to get it right. But
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the outright lying to people is absolute bullshit and it
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has to end. So people are tired of it. Right.
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People don't want to be BSD anymore. People want the
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real story, and unfortunately the real story is still not
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being told here, the full story to its maximum capacity.
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And you have all of these people who have all
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of a sudden got a huge interest in this case.
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Well you know what that really means is they feel
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like they can make some money on this case. So
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now everybody is an expert. Everybody's an expert, and everybody
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has all of these ideas and all of these great, great,
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great theories about what occurred. And meanwhile, in reality, they
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had their chance. The federal government had their chance not
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only when Epstein was hemmed up the second time, but
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throughout this whole entire or deal with Maxwell. They could
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have fired off so many more indictments and had so
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many more people wrapped up in this. Now, can you
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imagine how explosive this trial would be if there was
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a financial aspect to it and we had people like Wexner,
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Leon Black, Glenn Dubin and the rest of them taking
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the stand. Now, that, my friends, would be the sort
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of justice I'm interested in. Right, all of these people
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who have been engaging in these crimes, facilitating Epstein's crimes,
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helping Maxwell out for all of these years to get
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brought before a judge and a jury of their peers. Now,
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obviously that's about as much fantasy land as Game of
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Thrones in our current environment. But that would be the
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ultimate goal, right if we were really going to get justice,
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full justice, that's what it would be. But they're not
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interested in that unfortunately, So we're going to get what
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we get here. And all I can hope is that
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Maxwell ends up going to prison, And unless the prosecution
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picks up some steam here and starts going harder in
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the paint, I'm questioning if that's even going to happen
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at this point. Now. I've always been of the mind
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that there is a mountain of evidence here, Mount Everest High,
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and that you would have to be legitimately either one
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of the worst prosecutors of all time or throwing the
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case on purpose to not get a conviction here. And
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I'll tell you it's starting to look like one or
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the other, because I'm not very confident in Maureen Calemy.
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I've said that from Jump Street. I don't really care
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for her as a prosecutor. I don't know her as
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a person, so I can't, you know, make a you know,
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a statement one way or the other about her personal
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character or anything like that. But I will tell you this,
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I am not confident in her as an attorney or
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a prosecutor. And the fact that she's also prosecuting Nicholas
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TARTAGLIONI is a head scratcher to me. Now, Alison Moe,
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for the most part, has done a pretty good job.
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She has been a pretty solid prosecutor throughout this whole
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entire thing. But even with her and Pomerants, I'm not
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super confident in the prosecution. I've told you, folks from
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day one, how I feel about the SDN WHY, and
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how I feel about the way that they have conducted
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themselves in the past ten years or so. Certainly not
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something that inspires confidence. It's not the same SDN why
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that put the mafia out of business, certainly not. In fact,
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I would even go out on a lemon and say
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that they're more interested in going after their political opponents
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than they are in going after Jeffrey Epstein or his friends,
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considering how long this occurred right under their noses in
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the middle of Manhattan. So they can talk about how
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they're interested in this and how the SDNY is, you know,
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on the case, and this that the other thing. But
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I don't have confidence in the SDNY, and obviously, folks,
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like everything else we talk about here, we're talking about
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my opinion, and for me, it's just when you look
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at the overall picture, the way that things have went
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with the SDNY, with some of their investigations as of late,
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and the way that they deploy their resources, I don't
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know how anyone can have confidence in them. So it's
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going to be very interesting to see how the prosecution
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molds their strategy moving forward. And obviously a lot of
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it's going to come down to and rely on the
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testimony from the survivors themselves, because they're going to have
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the most impactful testimony, right their testimony is going to
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weigh the most as far as the court is concerned.
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At least in my opinion, I would think that if
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I was sitting on the jury, the most impactful statements
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to me would be from the actual people who were
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abused or molested or whatever it may be. Now, again,
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I've never sat on a jury for something like this,
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so it might be completely different. But I have a
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hard time believing that if the prosecution frames it all
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correctly and gets the right information out there, that Maxwell
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can get off here. Now, her defense team is working
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overtime to set it up as Maxwell is not only
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being given a bad shake as far as her trial
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and stuff, but her living conditions. And recently a little
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while ago, again they're talking about how she's not getting
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enough food, enough, this, enough that, and filing briefs with
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the court to that tune. And they're going to continue
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to do that. They're going to continue to pester, they're
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going to continue to poke, they're going to continue to prod.
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And what they're trying to do is set up the
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appearance that Maxwell has gone a bad shake the whole
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entire time here, she hasn't been treated fairly and that
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if she wasn't a rich socialite, that she would have
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been treated differently. And to that, I say, have you
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ever heard the story of Khalif Browder. I posted a
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two part article about Khalif Browder and what he went
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through at Riker's Island, And when you look at that
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side by side to what Glene Maxwell is saying that
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she's going through the punishment she's being dealt, it's laughable
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at best. And it's Oh, I've always found it gross
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that Maxwell would try and put herself into a category
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as somebody who's oppressed. She's never been oppressed in her
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whole life. In fact, I would even argue that she's
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been the oppressor her whole life. And now that she's
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getting a little taste of prison, of jail like the
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rest of us would if we were in her position,
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she doesn't like it. And now all of a sudden
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it's time for jail, it's time for things to change. Well,
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guess what, Glenn Maxwell, Things are going to change, hopefully
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in our jail system at some point, but you're not
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going to be the catalyst for that. Your complaints and
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your nonsense isn't going to be what moves the needle,
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all right, So enjoy the blowney sandwiches. Now. Today, I
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would expect that we see more from the witness that
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was on the stand last on Friday. He was only
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on the stand for a little while, so I would
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guess that he's going to come back on and speak
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a little bit more about the first raid of Epstein's place,
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and you know, the sex toys, the massage table and
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all of that jazz. But beyond that, I'm not sure
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who the witnesses are going to be today. I'm not
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haven't seen any witness list. I've looked, and I've looked
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in the mornings for all of the day so far
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and haven't been able to see that. So I'm guessing
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they're just holding it real close to their vests and
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we won't know until the witnesses are brought up in
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front of the judge and the jury. So that's where
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we're at this morning, folks, as the trials just getting
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underway right now, about ten minutes ago. Obviously, I'll be
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around all day doing the same thing that I did
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last week. I'll go through and try and curate as
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much of the notes as I can from the day's
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proceedings and I'll put them into a digestible form for
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us for later on tonight, and we'll take a look
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at what went on throughout the day. Hopefully we'll be
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able to get some more details out of that courtroom.
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And I think that's the most important part, right what
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goes on in the courtroom. Now, Obviously we can only
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get what we can get. There's not a full transcript
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coming out, not full transparency, and there's certainly not a
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call in line like there should be. So we're kind
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of at the mercy of those who were in the
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courtroom firing off these reports, and for the most part,
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a lot of these folks are doing a really good job.
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So I'll continue to do that, curate them from several
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different sources. If you want to follow along live on Twitter,
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Inner City Press is a good source, so is Adam Klassfeld.
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And uh yeah, so if you're looking to follow along live,
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you could do that. If not, obviously, I'll have it
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all ready to go later on tonight, curated and put
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into a digestible form so that we can see what
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occurred and you folks can get on with your day.
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All right, everybody, that's gonna wrap it up for this morning,
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and obviously we'll see what happens. But I'm looking at
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the same schedule as usual, few context episodes and then
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tonight we'll do our wrap up. All right, folks, that's
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gonna do it. If you'd like to contact me, you
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can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com.
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That's bo bb Y c ap Ucc at ProtonMail dot com.
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You can also find me on Twitter at bo bbuy
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Underscore cap Ucci. All Right, everybody, I'll be back later
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on and I hope that all of you have a
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great day. What's up everyone, and welcome back to the
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Epstein Chronicles. Day seven of the Gallaine Maxwell trial just
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wrapped up a little while ago and witnessed Carolyn who
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went into a incredibly disturbing account of what happened to
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her at the hands of Maxwell and Epstein. She took
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the brunt of the questioning today. She was on the
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stand for most of the day and there were some
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pretty testing moments during the exchanges. As usual, Gallaine Maxwell's
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legal team have kept up their full full court press
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and looked to destroy the credibility of each and every
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witness that gets on the stand. Now, obviously we're going
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to get to all of that, but there was also
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a pretty shocking revelation that came at the end of
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the day to day, and that was the prosecution saying
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that they're going to be prepared to wrap their case
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up by this week. Now, remember this is supposed to
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be a five to six week trial according to the
21:24
court and the prosecutors. Now all of a sudden, all
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of a sudden, today we're looking at it only being
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two weeks. As far as the prosecution goes, you would
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think that they'd have more up their sleeve. And it
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just goes right to the point that I've been trying
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to make forever, to be honest with you, that I
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have no confidence that the federal government of the United
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States has any interest in really bringing people who were
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involved in this to justice. They're throwing a little red
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meat here, right, folks, you know, in the interest of appearances,
22:06
will pursue this a little bit. But in reality, if
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they really wanted to go after these people, if they
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really wanted to make sure that this all stuck, then
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this would have been a rico case. But now they're
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using this smaller scope the ten year period, and it
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certainly looks like the prosecution, at least from where I'm sitting,
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is not doing that great of a job. Now. The
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witness testimony has been pretty damning, There's no doubt about it.
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When you listen to these girls recount what occurred to
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the occurred to them at the hands of Maxwell and
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Epstein and their cohorts, it's distressing as hell. But there
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is so much more here that the prosecutions just leaving
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in the toolbox. And again it goes back to the
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original strategy. Why is it that only these four girls
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are being brought up as witnesses. We know that this
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is the same exact thing that occurred the first time around.
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When they impaneled the Grand Jerry down in Palm Beach,
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they only brought one girl up to testify in front
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of the grand jury. And what did they do? They
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destroyed her credibility because she talked to some boys on
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MySpace at the time, and she drank and smoked some weeds,
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So all of a sudden, her testimony is not credible.
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And now fast forward to twenty twenty one, and we
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see the same thing happening. Now where's all the outrage?
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You know? You see all of these people who want
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to march and go crazy and act the fool whenever
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they can move the political football. But for something like this,
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you would think that people would be up in arms.
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So where is all of the solidarity with Jeffrey Epstein's survivors?
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I would like to see that same kind of energy
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put out there. But one thing I have learned in
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the past, oh, I don't know, two and a half
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three years of covering this case and investigating this case,
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is that nobody, perhaps ever, when it comes to stuff
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like this, has been forgotten more than these girls. It
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has been an absolute travesty from start to finish. And now,
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just when you think that there's a chance for some
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of this stuff to come to light, just when you
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think there's a chance that the doors might get blown
24:38
off of this thing, prosecution talks about resting their case.
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So that caught me really off guard, honestly, and I
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don't know what to think about it. So we'll have
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to see a little bit more what comes out in
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the overnight hours and into the morning about their strategy here.
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But I don't understand how they can even begin to
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think about resting their case. So we'll have to see
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what their strategy is. But as usual, I am not
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very confident at all, especially considering all of the circumstances
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surrounding all of it. I told you folks from Jump
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Street that I'm not confident in Maureen Comy. Why is
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Maureen Comy who is also prosecuting Nicholas TARTAGLIONI Why is
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she in charge of this case as well? So there's
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just a lot of things that never made sense to me.
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They still don't make sense to me, and I unfortunately
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I figured and knew that even after this trial there
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would still be way too many questions and not enough
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answers because this trial and the scope of this trial
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was never large enough. Now, I honestly don't know if
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or when we'll ever see any justice at this point, folks.
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And that's just the truth of the matter as far
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as I can see it. It's a bit discouraging to
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hear that the prosecution is ready to close their case now.
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Maybe they think they've done enough to get a conviction already.
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And like I said, the testimony was pretty damning. But
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with all of the evidence that's available, all of the
26:28
stuff that's been out there, all of the stuff that
26:30
we have heard from these survivors about Maxwell and her behavior,
26:35
you would think that they'd really try and ram the
26:39
point home. You would think that they would bring a
26:43
parade of girls to come out and testify, even if
26:48
their testimony doesn't have to do with the actual charges.
26:52
Wouldn't that be showing that this is the kind of
26:55
person Maxwell is, kind of like character witnesses saw with
27:00
Harvey Weinstein in a few instances. So it's very disheartening
27:08
to think that the prosecution is going to be done here.
27:12
But I guess we'll have to wait and see right,
27:15
we'll have to see what comes of this, and we'll
27:17
have to see what the next couple of days bring,
27:21
at the very least, because I'm hearing that they're talking
27:23
about being done on Thursday, resting their case on Thursday,
27:28
so one can only imagine what is on deck for tomorrow.
27:35
Before we get to that, however, why don't we discuss
27:38
what went down today inside of that courtroom and take
27:43
a look at some of the proceedings that were underway
27:48
in day seven of the Glenn Maxwell trial. So the
27:54
trial kicks off pretty much the same way as the
27:57
other six day has the other the other six days have,
28:01
with the prosecutors and the defense arguing before the jury
28:05
even comes in. This time over Jane, the witness who
28:08
testified previously and what she told her boyfriend and when
28:12
she told him it. Judge Nathan decides that if the
28:17
prosecution wants to call him to testify, then they'll have
28:20
to call him after lunch. After that there was another
28:23
sealed sidebar and then the jury comes out to get started,
28:30
So they never ended up bringing this other witness that
28:36
they were talking about bringing out to talk today to
28:39
put under oath and give their statement. So nothing came
28:43
of that anyway. Maureen Comy handling things right now as
28:50
far as the first portion of the case today, and
28:55
they continue on with the FBI agent from yesterday and
29:00
and evidence is once again provided. The agent was asked
29:04
directly to identify the people in the pictures, and the
29:07
agent identifies the people in the pictures as Jeffrey Epstein
29:13
and Glenn Maxwell. These photos are relevant because they were
29:18
found on CDs from the twenty nineteen raid of Epstein's
29:22
and they weren't protected by the NPA from two thousand
29:25
and five, by the way. And some of these CDs
29:28
were found in that safe that you know, we've talked
29:32
about several times from the raid at Epstein's house when
29:36
he was arrested the second time around. They found a
29:39
bunch of stuff in that safe, diamonds, they found money,
29:43
fake Saudi Arabian passport, all sorts of things. And Epstein
29:49
was known to have some cash on hand so he
29:53
can make, you know, payoffs to his cohorts or for
29:56
his air quotes, massages, stuff like that. But these CDs
30:02
were found in twenty nineteen and the photos that were
30:08
put into evidence were showing Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell in
30:13
these photos. Next, the evidence that's put into the court
30:18
is sealed and prosecution they give the jurors instructions on
30:23
where to find that in their binders the sealed file portion,
30:28
so pictures are shown of Epstein and Maxwell hugging and
30:32
then otherwise close poses the ones that aren't sealed, and
30:36
after a short cross examination, the defense was done. So
30:41
that wrapped it up for the FBI agent who finished
30:46
off yesterday and started off today. It was about some
30:49
of the evidence that was procured in the first of
30:52
the second raid of Epstein in twenty nineteen. So this
30:57
was an FBI agent who was involved in that, who
31:00
was involved in handling the evidence, and this was somebody
31:04
who was putting the pieces together to show the connections
31:07
obviously between Maxwell and Epstein. Now, the next witness that
31:15
they call up onto the stand is Stephen Flatley, an
31:20
instructor from Quantico, which is the headquarters of the FBI,
31:25
and he's in charge of one of their digital departments
31:28
reconstructing hard drives and stuff like that. Comy goes on
31:32
to ask Flatley about one of the hard drives that
31:35
was registered to g Max and then referred to an
31:39
email address from Mindstring, MindSpring excuse me, that was Maxwell's
31:44
Comy goes on to ask about an email that discussed John,
31:48
which is interesting because remember Glenn Maxwell used to call
31:51
Juan Juana Lessi John, And when you look at the
31:56
things that she was talking about in this email, it
31:58
was obvious that she was talking about Juanna Lessi considering
32:02
what his duties were as far as being Epstein's butler
32:06
slash housekeeper. So again shows the ties right, shows the connections.
32:15
She goes on to talk about several things that John
32:19
did poorly in this email, including a pool deck being
32:22
dirty and there being no pens. She also went on
32:25
to complain about massage creams that were left in disarray
32:28
in Epstein's bathroom. So we know that Wuanna Lessi has
32:33
already testified about the bathroom, the sex toys, the massage oils,
32:39
and that stuff. So now we see an email from
32:42
Glene Maxwell herself from the gmax account talking about this
32:47
very thing, basically corroborating Whatjuanna Lessi said previously. So this
32:55
gentleman from Quantico went through the whole entire spiel about
33:01
you know, the computers, blah blah blah blah blah and
33:04
then we're back to sealing items. So now Exhibit number
33:09
four eighteen is offered up, but it's offered up under seal,
33:14
and that's pretty much it for the prosecution as far
33:18
as with this witness. The instructor from Quantico, now Laura
33:26
Mettinger for the defense, begins her cross by asking several
33:31
questions about computer files and if he, the FBI agent,
33:35
can say for sure if anything was changed or not
33:38
during copying, and he admits that he can't. Right, he
33:40
didn't have possession of this computer all the time. He
33:43
doesn't know what happened to it at all the time.
33:46
So what they're trying to do here is established that
33:49
there could have been somebody who could have messed with
33:52
some files. Not a very strong defense, not a very
33:55
strong strategy in my opinion, but that certainly looks to
33:59
be what they're trying is set up. They were also
34:02
talking about locations and if they could determine where Maxwell
34:08
was with the emails, but with it being emails from
34:13
a desktop computer, it would make geolocation a moot point,
34:19
so there wasn't anything that they could gleam from that.
34:25
And with that, that's it for this witness as well,
34:30
Menager releases this witness and the early morning of the
34:34
proceedings is wrapped up. Now, like I said, the majority
34:38
of this was Carolyn, who is testifying under her first name,
34:43
and somebody who was allegedly abused by Maxwell and Depstein.
34:50
So Carolyn next up on the stand and the prosecution
34:54
starts out asking some questions about her background, such as
34:57
how long she went to school for and she responds
35:00
that she dropped out school was done for her in
35:03
seventh grade. She also goes on to discuss how her
35:06
mother was an alcoholic. Now, remember, these are exactly the
35:10
kind of situations that Maxwell and Epstein thrived upon that
35:15
they were always looking for. They were looking for somebody
35:20
from a broken home or in a situation where they
35:22
needed financial help or other help. And they can swoop
35:26
in and offer that help, but only if you played
35:30
their game right, only if you came back to the
35:33
house for the massages, and only if you brought other girls,
35:36
and nothing was given for free. And we know that
35:44
it was their complete and utter m o. How many
35:53
of these girls were from disadvantaged backgrounds, How many of
35:57
them came from parents who had drug addiction or parents
36:01
who had money problems working two jobs. And the sad
36:07
reality is, folks, those are the people that are always
36:12
prayed upon. They're the most vulnerable amongst us, and that
36:16
is exactly where Jeffrey Epstein and Gallainne Maxwell liked to
36:20
focus their attention. When she was asked how old she
36:25
was when she was first introduced to Epstein, she replied
36:28
that she was fourteen and that someone named Sean introduced them. Originally,
36:33
she says, she told Sean she was seventeen, but he
36:36
found out her real age at her birthday party. Now
36:39
think about that, she tells his duty seventeen, then at
36:43
the birthday party finds out she's fourteen. I mean, really, bro,
36:46
you're still hanging out with her? Really? She goes on
36:51
to tell the court that it was this relationship with
36:54
Sean that led to her meeting Virginia Roberts. According to Carolyn,
36:58
she was introduced to Epstein to give him massages so
37:03
she could make some money. Now, there was a whole
37:06
thing where Gallainne Maxwell's legal team was throwing Virginia's name
37:12
around in this and we're going to get to that
37:15
a little a little bit further down here. But it
37:18
was quite transparent what they were trying to do. They
37:22
were trying to set it up as if Virginia Roberts
37:26
was a human trafficker and not Gallaine Maxwell, when in
37:31
reality it was Gallainne Maxwell, according to all these reports
37:36
at the top of the food chain here giving the
37:40
orders for this to occur, normalizing all of this, grooming
37:44
all of them. She goes on to say, you know,
37:52
she was had no education, She's from a broken home.
37:56
She was in need of cash, and that's why she
37:58
went to give Epstein thoseges. Right, three hundred bucks is
38:02
a lot of money when you have nothing, and to
38:05
be able to get it multiple times a week. Carolyn
38:11
goes on to tell the court about meeting Golaine for
38:13
the first time and how she couldn't pronounce Maxwell's name,
38:16
so she just called her by her last name. She
38:18
said that Maxwell had shoulder length black hair and an accent.
38:23
Carolyn said that Maxwell took off her clothes and Carolyn
38:26
left on her bra and underwear, she says. Carolyn then
38:30
tells the court that after forty five minutes of giving
38:32
Epstein a massage, he turned over he Epstein and him
38:37
and Virginia started to have sex. So we know from
38:40
Virginia's depositions, and we know from Virginia's reports that it
38:46
several different accounts of it being a group type of
38:50
thing where Epstein was sexually abusing her in a group
38:54
environment and using that to normalize the process for the
38:58
other victims. It was just an absolutely draconian method that
39:05
this man had, and he used these young girls to
39:11
bring other young girls into his web. And what he
39:14
would try and do is give himself a bit of
39:17
a buffer zone. Right. Oh well, I wasn't paying them
39:23
for sex, I you know, I was paying them to
39:24
come over and give me a massage. And then he'd
39:27
have several layers between himself and the actual payment, just
39:30
like a criminal mob boss. So again I ask you,
39:34
how is it that Rico is not being used here?
39:40
Prosecution then asked Carolyn Carolyn about payment and how much
39:44
he would receive, and she said she received three hundred dollars.
39:48
She wasn't sure how much Virginia was given. She also
39:52
stated that Maxwell asked her for her phone number. So
39:56
after this first time, obviously Jeffrey Epstein was pleased and
40:01
wanted to have Carolyn come back for more air quotes, massages,
40:07
and unfortunately that's exactly what happened. Carolyn, when asked about
40:12
how many times she went to Epstein's, says that she
40:15
went more than one hundred times, at least two or
40:18
three times a week, from the time she was fourteen
40:21
until she was eighteen. She tells the court when asked
40:25
why she went to Epstein's, that three hundred dollars was
40:27
a lot of money to a young girl. This is
40:30
something that we have discussed a lot, and again, it
40:34
is one of the easiest ways for these people with
40:39
gigantic amounts of financial resources a huge influence to groom
40:44
these girls who come from nothing, and it's a process
40:49
that is very, very, very effective. Unfortunately. She recounts how
40:57
when Maxwell would call, she would ask Carolyn if she'd
41:01
be able to see them if they flew in. They
41:03
also asked her about traveling and if she could go
41:06
overseas with them. She says she told them that her
41:08
mother would never allow it. When she was asked if
41:13
Maxwell newer age, Carolyn responds, she did know. So let's
41:19
frame that Maxwell's calling this fourteen year old girl to
41:23
try and get her to go overseas on trips. For
41:26
what possible reason could you want to bring this fourteen
41:29
year old girl on your trips with you overseas. It
41:34
is debased and absolutely disgusting. The assistant US Attorney Pomerance continues,
41:50
Did Maxwell touch you? She asks? To this, Carolyn responds
41:53
with yes. When asked where on the body she was touched,
41:56
she says her breasts. She says that Maxwell told her
42:00
she had a great body for Epstein and his friends.
42:03
And his friends huh, very interesting. Again, how is it
42:06
that the prosecution is even talking about resting this case.
42:11
None of Jeffrey Epstein's friends are gonna get caught up here,
42:15
nobody else? What about the co conspirators? Sarah Sarah Vickers,
42:20
Sarah Kelln Vickers is gonna is gonna skate here. It's gross,
42:25
It's really gross, and it just again shows you that
42:28
the justice system is completely broken, folks. It doesn't matter
42:31
who's in office, it doesn't matter which tribe is in
42:34
office and telling you, you know, whatever sweet lies they
42:37
feel like handing out. The fact of the matter is,
42:40
nothing ever changes, and the most vulnerable amongst us, meaning
42:44
all of us, basically compared to these people, continue to
42:48
get absolutely squashed. Also, if it was just a massage,
42:57
why would Maxwell even comment on her by body type? Right?
43:00
Why would it matter what her body type is if
43:03
she's getting a massage, It shouldn't matter one way or
43:05
the other. If she's big, small, anything in between, as
43:08
long as she can give a good massage. Right. But again,
43:10
this is a fourteen year old girl who was obviously
43:13
not brought over there for massages. She also details how
43:19
Epstein would ask her questions about her upbringing, again trying
43:23
to set those claws in right now, this was a
43:26
big one by prosecution in my opinion. They asked Carolyn
43:30
about payment and if Maxwell ever paid her. Carolyn stated
43:33
that Maxwell handed her three one hundred dollars bills, So
43:38
that establishes that Maxwell was paying her for these quote
43:43
unquote massages, and it also shows culpability, right, shows that
43:50
she was a conspirator, a co conspirator. She knew that
43:54
these girls were being abused, according to their accounts, and
43:58
not only did she stand by and do nothing partake
44:01
in some cases, but she was also the one paying
44:03
the girls the money in some accounts. So again it
44:08
establishes big time that Glen Maxwell was a pivotal player
44:14
in this whole entire thing. Carolyn continued to talk about
44:19
Epstein and how he sent her gifts like concert tickets, lingerie,
44:23
probably Victoria's Secret, and a massage for Dummies book. Now
44:28
we heard about the Massage for Dummies book at least
44:31
a copy of it before from one of the previous raids,
44:35
So this must have been a book that they were
44:37
sending out all the time to try and get these
44:40
little girls hip to how to give a proper massage. Again,
44:43
it creeps me out, even saying that these people have
44:47
all the money in the world. Why in the hell
44:50
would these clowns be trying to get massages from these
44:53
young little girls if it wasn't for the purposes of
44:58
assaulting them. No other excuse, no other reason is logical
45:06
or makes sense. You don't bring a fourteen year old
45:08
girl over with no massage therapy experience to work the
45:12
kinks out. Carolyn was also asked by the prosecution if
45:19
she ever brought other friends to Epstein's form massages, and
45:22
she says she brought three Amanda el who was a
45:26
year older than her, and then Tatum and Julie, who
45:29
were younger. She says she made six hundred and the
45:32
others made three hundred. So that was another stick of
45:37
Epstein's in Maxwell's and that's why some people call it
45:40
a sexual Ponzi scheme, right, a sexual assault Ponzi scheme.
45:44
He would get these one girl involved in his abuse
45:49
and then he would set her out by giving her
45:52
money to bring other girls in. And at the same time,
45:56
the process was normalized because the original girl who was
46:00
groomed and brought into the circle is telling these other girls, how, oh,
46:04
this is just normal. You want to make a few
46:05
hundred bucks, you just got to give them a massage.
46:08
So these other girls come in and they think this
46:10
is normal behavior, and you see how it all works, right,
46:15
and it's disgusting. And in Palm Beach, we're talking dozens
46:18
and dozens and dozens of allegations like this. In what
46:26
was probably a preemptive move considering the prosecution knew that
46:31
the defense was going to try and punch holes in Carolyn.
46:35
They uh talk about her drug addiction and what she
46:40
spent the money on, and she said she spent her
46:43
money on drugs. She also talks about giving birth and
46:48
when asked if she went back to Epstein, she says
46:50
she did and even went while she was pregnant. So again,
46:56
it just show it shows you the absolute hooks that
47:01
these people put in to these young girls. And we're
47:06
not talking about, you know, any gray area here. Okay,
47:11
this was a fourteen year old girl when she first
47:13
came into Epstein's sphere. There's no excuse for it, there's
47:17
no defense for it. The prosecution also asked her about
47:23
jail time she did over pawning a video game console,
47:27
and she says she did time, but then she went
47:30
to drug treatment and therapy and she is currently on
47:33
medication to help her with her drug addictions. One of
47:37
those drugs is methadone, so obviously she had an opiate
47:41
opiate addiction, and this is very common, folks, for people
47:44
who suffer this kind of trauma. You're trying to run
47:46
from it, trying to hide from it, trying to get
47:48
away from yourself. So what's the easiest way to do that, right, drugs.
47:54
So you'll see a lot of these girls who have
47:58
unfortunately been caught up with Maxwell and Epstein and people
48:01
like them, turned to drugs. And it's just a whole
48:06
bad scene that follows it asking about the Xbox issue
48:15
and the father of her child, Sean she says that
48:18
she has not been in touch with him since her arrest.
48:21
She has also asked if she works or has ever
48:23
worked for an escort service, to which she answers. Sometimes,
48:27
when asked what Maxwell did to her, she tells the
48:29
court she took pictures of her naked and of course
48:32
the other stuff with Epstein, and the prosecution presses the
48:37
issue and asks who decided who you would sue, to
48:40
which the defense objects. Judge Nathan sustains their objection, So
48:46
again setting it up because they know the prosecute, I mean,
48:50
the defense is gonna come hard after her character, so
48:53
they wanted it to get it out there in open
48:56
court that she A had a drug problem, B did time,
48:59
and see worked as an escort after all of this occurred.
49:03
But that really doesn't matter in the long run, does it?
49:06
Or in the big picture? The trauma that she suffered
49:10
at fourteen years old obviously led her down this road.
49:15
So how can you begin to assail her and assault
49:19
her for her life choices and for the things that
49:22
have happened after she was abused by Jeffrey Epstein and
49:27
allegedly Maxwell. It is ridiculous. Now, of course, it's the
49:35
place of the defense to try and do that. But
49:38
I really hope that the Jerry's paying attention to what's
49:41
going on here. So that's the end of it for
49:45
the prosecution with Carolyn, and they hand her over to
49:49
the defense for the cross examine, I mean for the yeah,
49:52
the defense for cross exam. The defense asks if Sean
49:56
was a friend of Virginia Roberts' boyfriend Tony, and if
49:59
they smoke pot and drank booze together. Carolyn answered that
50:03
they didn't drink booze, so obviously Sean Antonia were friends
50:08
and they smoked pot, just like I don't know everybody
50:14
you know at this point. I mean, really, who doesn't
50:16
smoke pot? And to act like smoking pot or drinking
50:21
booze or anything like that makes you not credible when
50:25
it comes to something like being assaulted is just banana's
50:28
land for me. I can't wrap my head around anything
50:31
like that. And if I was ever on a jerry
50:33
and somebody tried to infer that, I would definitely be
50:38
thinking that they don't have much else to go on, right,
50:41
I'm gonna need some evidence. She was asked if it
50:46
was Virginia who told her that she could make three
50:49
hundred dollars, and she answered, no. What Pagliuca is doing
50:54
here is he's trying to attempt to set the tone
50:57
that Virginia was the trafficker, not Maxwell. And he asked
51:00
if Maxwell was there when she was approached about making
51:03
five hundred dollars, and Carolyn says, no, Maxwell was not there,
51:08
it was just her in Virginia. Again, Maxwell states a
51:12
name in court that they shouldn't, this time using Carolyn's
51:15
last name. So it's become a pattern now, right almost
51:19
to the point where you have to ask yourself, are
51:21
they attempting to dox these witnesses because they shouldn't be
51:26
mentioning their names. Okay, they shouldn't be mentioning last names.
51:30
If these girls are testifying anonymously, then that's the way
51:34
it should be kept. But the scumbaggery that's being shown
51:39
here by Maxwell's lawyers, it's you get what you pay for.
51:44
Right when you're paying for this kind of money, these
51:46
guys are going and ladies are going to push the envelope,
51:49
and that's exactly what they're doing. So after all of
51:57
that nonsense, and Glenn Mack expells lawyers once again, acting
52:02
the full Judge Nathan calls for a lunch break. After
52:05
they're done with the lunch break, the cross examination begins
52:08
in Earnest, and the defense begins by asking her about
52:11
the FBI notes from her twenty seventeen interview. Now, it's
52:16
interesting because the two thousand the interviews that you have
52:19
with the FBI, those aren't, you know, the word of law, right,
52:26
they're not. The FBI isn't taking those notes word for word.
52:29
Those are notes. So I don't think that the defense
52:34
bringing that up is going to help them in the
52:36
long run here. I think it's kind of a moot
52:38
point and kind of a spinning of their wheels tactic. Now,
52:44
I know, I said I'm not confident really in the
52:46
federal government, but I haven't seen much from Glenn Maxwell
52:51
as far as evidence proving that she's innocent here either.
52:55
So it is going to be very interesting, the defense says.
53:01
The FBI notes say that the woman had an unknown accent,
53:05
and to this, Carolyn disagrees. She says that she told
53:08
them that the woman had an accent. Pagliuca continues that
53:14
she knew what a British accent was, but she said unknown,
53:18
And once again he was implying that she's a liar.
53:23
Asking about the second time that she went to Epstein's house,
53:28
he says, so, for the second visit, you sat in
53:30
the kitchen and spoke with the chef. Now, I'm guessing
53:33
the timeframe lines up here and that that chef was
53:37
Adam Perry Lang. So it definitely looks like that is
53:42
the case as far as the timelines are concerned. But
53:45
that wasn't mentioned in court or anything like that. Carolyn
53:49
responds that she isn't sure if that was her second
53:52
visit or if it was some time after that, And
53:55
at this point, the defense calls for the court to
53:58
show the witness what she said in two thousand and seven.
54:00
So again back to the FBI notes, which would signal
54:05
to me that they don't have much else to go
54:07
on here, right. So it's one of those interesting situations
54:12
where I'm certainly not confident in what we have seen
54:16
as far as the prosecution's performance. But at the same time,
54:22
I haven't seen a defense here that would get Maxwell off,
54:26
at least in my opinion. Carolyn tells the defense that
54:35
the FBI didn't ask her about Maxwell. Pagliuca presses by
54:39
asking her if she is saying, the FBI put a
54:41
gag on what she could say, and she responds again
54:44
that she wasn't asked about Maxwell. And to this, the
54:49
defense responds by stating that she told the FBI about
54:53
Sarah Kellen Vickers or just Sarah and the Incubus tickets
54:57
from Epstein, and then Carolyn said that she responds yes
55:01
to this, So he is asking her about the whole
55:07
entire gag here on what she could or couldn't say,
55:15
and she says that there was no gag and that
55:19
when they pressed about the email with Maxwell about Sarah
55:27
Kelln Vickers, that it was factual that she did get
55:32
these Incubis tickets from Epstein. So again it's more gifts, right,
55:37
and what the defense is trying to do here is
55:39
point out that it was Sarah Kelln Vickers and that
55:42
it was Jeffrey Epstein. It was everybody but Glenn Maxwell.
55:45
That's what the defense is trying to point out right here.
55:49
The defense also probes Carolyn about her move from Florida
55:52
to Georgia, and they asked her about the lawsuits that
55:55
she filed. Carolyn cuts them off and asks what they
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have to do about what those have to do with
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her moving to Georgia. Again, it's one of those things
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where if you're a witness on the stand, you have
56:12
to get frustrated right when you're getting peppered by the
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defense here like this, So she is being absolutely hammered.
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He's talking about why she moved from Georgia to Florida,
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and he is basically saying that it was because she
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had to go get clean, and she says that the
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reason she was leaving is to escape from the trauma.
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So right after this again, Maxwell calls for another break,
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the afternoon break at this point, coming back from the
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return and now Maureen call me asks how long the
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defense expects this cross examination to go on for and
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there's no response to the question. So the defense starts
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right in again and they questioned Carolyn, and this time
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asking her if she ever remembered using drugs when she
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was thirteen. Carolyn says that if you consider pot a drug,
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then yes. So again you see it, folks, And it's
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the story right of the defense. Their job is to
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try and continue to destroy the credibility, and it seems
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to me anyway that all they have to go on
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as far as credibility issues to destroy is the fact
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that this girl might have smoked some pot, or she
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might have hung out with some boys or something like that.
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It's ridiculous. The defense then tries to leave the witness,
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stating that she went to Georgia to get clean, but
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Carolyn says that that wasn't the reason. She said as
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she went there to escape her past trauma. And the
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witness was asked if she was doing cocaine when she
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was at Epstein's house and she responded no to that.
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The defense then refers to previous lawsuits and reads, did
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you have sexual intercourse with mister Epstein? Defense reads the
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answer no. Carolyn speaks up during this and replies that
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she wasn't a willing participant. So they were reading from
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those the documents, right, the three zero two's that the
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FBI provided, and the defense reads it, did you have
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sexual intercourse with mister Epstein and then the answer that
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Carolyn provided no. Now in the middle of this, she
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stops the defense attorney and she says that she wasn't
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a willing participant. That's why she said she didn't have
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sexual intercourse with Epstein, because she didn't. She was raped
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by him, so it was an intercourse, she goes on
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to say that Maxwell, that Glene Maxwell fondled me and
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broke my soul. And at this point the defense moves
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to get the comments struck from the record, and Judge Nathan,
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after advising the witness to follow the rules, orders the
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jury to disregard that comment. She is had enough, right
59:25
and you could tell by at least just by the
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notes that we had coming out, because remember, folks, this
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is just an accumulation of different courtroom tweets and notes
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that are coming out as the trial's going on. But
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you could tell that she had had enough during this
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cross examination. And there were several times here where she
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went off off of the playbook and said stuff like
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that Glaine Maxwell fondled me and broke my soul. Can
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you imagine what this girl went through in her life. Again,
1:00:05
the defense is probing about money received from the compensation
1:00:08
fund and Carolyn again goes off of the script and
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she says that no amount of money can heal her.
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And as she's saying this, she's cut off by the defense,
1:00:16
who once again moved to strike the witness comment from
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the record, and once again Judge Nathan agrees. She orders
1:00:23
the jury to disregard the comment, and she again instructs
1:00:27
the witness to follow the rules. Carolyn's crying now, and
1:00:31
the defense asks if she claimed to have seen a
1:00:34
picture of Maxwell pregnant, and she responds she did nude
1:00:38
and pregnant, and she goes to continue her response, but
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the defense cuts her off at this point, stating that
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they have no further questions. With a few minutes left,
1:00:47
Marine Comy asks if Caroline Carolyn is here to get money,
1:00:52
and she responds, no, she is here because what Maxwell
1:00:56
did is wrong. Again, the defense objects, the state ends
1:01:01
it they have no further questions for the witness, but
1:01:03
Pagliuca is not finished yet. He asked her about the
1:01:06
money she received in two thousand and nine, but the
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money was gone by twenty twelve, and this was four
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hundred and forty six thousand dollars. He asked her what
1:01:16
happened to it? She says she doesn't know, she has
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kids to take care of. The defense with their ham
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handed approach, continues, you can't recall how you spent four
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hundred and forty six thousand dollars. You lost all of it.
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No further questions, and with that the folks day number
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seven comes to a close in the Gallain Maxwell trial.
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They're sure is a lot to unpack today, And I'm
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sure as the day goes on and we get more
1:01:45
information about the prosecution resting their case as soon as
1:01:50
this week, then maybe we'll have more clarity. But as
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of right now, I don't even know what to say
1:01:57
about the prosecution preparing to rest its case now. As
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far as the testimony given today, I thought that it
1:02:05
was pretty powerful testimony. It certainly sets the foundational blocks
1:02:12
we've been talking about, and it continues to connect the dots.
1:02:17
So we'll see what tomorrow morning brings. But one thing
1:02:22
I can tell you is it's going to be interesting.
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