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#214 - Emilio Rojas · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Bula Camp Podcast Special guests in here my guy Milio Rojas.
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  Speaker 1: What up? Man? Welcome man? So what worst of all? Millio?
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  Speaker 1: How's it living downtown La? We were just talking. You've
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  Speaker 1: been in LA for a while now, I've been in
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  Speaker 1: LA for a while. I was decided it was a
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  Speaker 1: good idea to move to fucking goddamn skid Row. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: I don't live I don't live in a tent. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not like, how's it been living in a tent
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  Speaker 1: and using porter potties? Was import the last time you
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  Speaker 1: shat in front of somewhat stew in the corner? Yo?
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  Speaker 1: Downtown is crazy, bro in La. But this is La
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  Speaker 1: in general, man, Like coming from LA in general for sure. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but downtown it is fucking insane. Well, because it's all
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  Speaker 1: localized into like a small area like skid Row is
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  Speaker 1: some crazy shit. I've been around the world. I've never
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  Speaker 1: seen anything like that. Yeah, skid Row is very uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's always been crazy, so it's not like
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  Speaker 1: anything new, but it's it's definitely like like people choose
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  Speaker 1: to be there. I think, well, I think some people
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  Speaker 1: choose to be there, and I know like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people are just getting dropped off, like when the
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  Speaker 1: prisons get overwhelmed or there's no mental health facilities, they
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  Speaker 1: just get dropped off. That's where I think when you
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  Speaker 1: get let out of county the bus just that's what
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  Speaker 1: I think. I think I heard that, but I can't speak.
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  Speaker 1: I think you shouldn't think. I think people are just
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  Speaker 1: getting dropped off. No, that's what I That's what I
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  Speaker 1: was told. Oh I just never verified it. Yeah, shout
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  Speaker 1: out to skid Row man. Yeah. I like watching just
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  Speaker 1: random documentaries or like random YouTube blogs about skid Row
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  Speaker 1: because when I walk over there, man, you walk over
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  Speaker 1: there not maybe not in skin. I don't think Kev's
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  Speaker 1: ever walked in just downtown in general. Wear them just everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Where's all the clubs at down there? I be walking
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  Speaker 1: through Crasmoke, Yeah, oh for sure, bro, Yeah, Spring Street
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  Speaker 1: walking through Cracksmoke, Cracksmoke. You see people shoot up, Like
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  Speaker 1: I saw this guy who was like dressed like a
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  Speaker 1: fucking legit, like you know, fucking hype beast, young white kid,
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  Speaker 1: fucking obviously had money with supreme out fucking fire ass
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  Speaker 1: like hard to find new balances on right, And I
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  Speaker 1: saw him walking and I was like, I was walking
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  Speaker 1: past him when I was going into a spot, and
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  Speaker 1: when I was walking back the other way, he was
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  Speaker 1: like huddled up with all the crackheads, and he like
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  Speaker 1: took his little fucking his little you know, his little man,
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  Speaker 1: and he opens and he pulls out the brillo in
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  Speaker 1: the crack and you just starts smoking crack with all
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  Speaker 1: the homeless guys. And I was like, fuck, like, it
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  Speaker 1: must be funner, Like that can't be a lonely drug,
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  Speaker 1: Like it must be funner to be like, Yo, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna go downtown and we'll find some people to smoke
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  Speaker 1: crack with because it's better that way. It's a social
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  Speaker 1: drug for sure. They're out there passing. Like you want
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  Speaker 1: to be like the rich kids smoking crack alone at home. Nah,
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  Speaker 1: that's when you really really lost. You just want to
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  Speaker 1: be the rich kid smoking crack with it with all
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  Speaker 1: the home with all the other crackheads. Yeah, and just
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  Speaker 1: be like, yo, I'll see you guys in two years,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be right here with you. At Le's crazy because
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  Speaker 1: it's like you'll be in a place like skid Row
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  Speaker 1: and there'll be like a chick with like fake titties,
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  Speaker 1: homeless getting piped. I don't even know. But it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she came here for something else, she was
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  Speaker 1: doing whatever, and then just the city just got her.
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  Speaker 1: She got on that fetti wip yeah something, feedanol, Yeah
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  Speaker 1: something bro. That meth. Meth is big out here. Feedanyl.
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  Speaker 1: He focused on bro. I heard that they're smoking fentanyl now,
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  Speaker 1: like they don't even want they know what it is.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, no, we don't want uh, we want fentanyl.
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  Speaker 1: They're used to smoking it now. Yeah, they built up
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  Speaker 1: the tolerance. Imagine building up a tolerance. Well, that's what
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  Speaker 1: happens with opioids, right, Like you had opium, then morphine,
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  Speaker 1: than heroin. Yeah, you know, it's just foxies. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: just gets stronger and strong sets. And now they're just like,
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  Speaker 1: give me the fetti, give me the fucking let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Have you tried fetanyel I've been I've been
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  Speaker 1: pretty pretty fortunate to not have tried. Just make sure
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  Speaker 1: you're careful because you walk through the wrong cloud of
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  Speaker 1: smoke down there, you might fucking Oh yeah, I might
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  Speaker 1: have tried on accident a couple of times, and that's terrible.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, free fetti wop totally unrelated happened. He
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  Speaker 1: got locked up. He's in prison right now. What. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it was fetanyl, but he got it
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  Speaker 1: was some drug ship he got. He got hit pretty hard.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to speak on his case because I
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  Speaker 1: don't know the fact, but he's in us. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: locked up. He took a plea jeez. Yeah it sucks, man. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So what's been going on with you? Man? I'm just working, man.
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  Speaker 1: I just dropped a little like remix mixtape on industry
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  Speaker 1: Beats called grip Tape because I've been skating a lot.
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  Speaker 1: So I used to skateboard a lot when I was
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  Speaker 1: a kid. You've been skating a lot? Yeah, Well, why
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  Speaker 1: you look so shocked. I'm good, bro, I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: you were a skater. I can skate really good. You
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  Speaker 1: just randomly decided to pick it back up because I
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  Speaker 1: was having a lot of anxiety, you know, like at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the pandemic. Like I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a grown man having like these anxiety symptoms that
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  Speaker 1: I never dealt with before in my life. Like, so
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  Speaker 1: you skated him out. I skated him out because skateboarding
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  Speaker 1: is like a really like meditation like activity. You have
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  Speaker 1: to really focus, Like if you fuck up your foot
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  Speaker 1: placement or something because you're thinking about some other shit,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna fall and like you know, bust your ass.
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  Speaker 1: So you really have to focus and it allows you
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  Speaker 1: to really disconnect. So the mixtape is you jumping on
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  Speaker 1: other beats. That was the one we just dropped. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was I got like a bunch of people on it.
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  Speaker 1: I got who I got, I got Nams on it,
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  Speaker 1: I got Shots and I got Damn Rick, I got Reverie,
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  Speaker 1: like a bunch of like the homies. We just wrapped
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  Speaker 1: on a bunch of shit. We wrapped on like kick Push,
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  Speaker 1: just you know, because I've been skating, had to do it.
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  Speaker 1: That's natural. I had to do it, you know. Then
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  Speaker 1: a Millie because that's my name, you know. But now
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  Speaker 1: we're moving on. We're about to drop some real music
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  Speaker 1: end of this month, end of October. So with a mixtape,
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  Speaker 1: you obviously can't put it on DSP. So it's on
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  Speaker 1: the one website, industrybeats dot com. I've never even heard
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  Speaker 1: of that. What did you just say? It was on
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  Speaker 1: we We dropped on industry beats like they were recorded
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  Speaker 1: on top of beats. Oh industry. I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: like a new platform. Sorry. I thought you were like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: it's on We dropped it on industry beats and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that must be like a new dat pif nah, the
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  Speaker 1: new dat pif nah. So it's on that PIF. No,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't. We just put it right fout on YouTube okay,
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  Speaker 1: sound Cloud? Yeah, because you should put it on that PIF.
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  Speaker 1: I know, right, why not? I just t you have
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  Speaker 1: big shots the fucking and there's my mixtapes app. We
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  Speaker 1: use that. Oh ship, look at you. You You fucking up
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  Speaker 1: my whole life right now. Keve about to take over
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  Speaker 1: my market and shout out to YouTube man. So you
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  Speaker 1: pretty much just a lot of YouTube ship, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of YouTube ship because I was I was finalized in
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  Speaker 1: a business situation. So now that that's all wrapped, because
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to go back into the label system
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  Speaker 1: or the distribution company system per se. So I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do something a little different. So as you sent
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  Speaker 1: me like a preview a new video, well you sent
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  Speaker 1: me in your new video. Yeah, you probably only previewed
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  Speaker 1: it because you're fake busy. No, I watched, I watched
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing. I'm just you were like chopping Like
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  Speaker 1: I told you, it's like some vintage Amilio chopping on here.
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  Speaker 1: Vintage vintage. Yeah, we uh, it's a it's a nod
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  Speaker 1: to that the Fat Joe and Punch It Twins, which
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  Speaker 1: was a nod to Deep Cover. So obviously being Latino like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm super influenced by pun Joe of course. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I definitely like referenced The Dead in the Middle. Literally. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I had to so now because I feel like you
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  Speaker 1: had like a you were you were kind of like
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  Speaker 1: dabbling a bit in this and a shit right, trying
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  Speaker 1: to make more like a spanglish ish yeah, kind of.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you were kind of trying to make
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  Speaker 1: more records that weren't necessarily maybe what your core fan
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  Speaker 1: base would expect from you. For a while, that was
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of external pressures for those types of records. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, I had to kind of take it
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  Speaker 1: back a little bit. I feel like when you have
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  Speaker 1: like a I feel like that you you have you
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  Speaker 1: busted a hard left. I feel like, if you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go there, you gotta make it a gradual left. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was getting pressure, man, Like it was
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  Speaker 1: one of those things like, yo, we're going to open
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  Speaker 1: a marketing budget. Like, yo, you're Hispanic, you speak Spanish?
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  Speaker 1: What are you doing? That was literally, that's literally you
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  Speaker 1: know what the conversation was, Oh, you probably have it
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  Speaker 1: a lot with Oh, for sure, I know them. They
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  Speaker 1: want to take you in. You got to do records
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  Speaker 1: that we see me on Dell God bless amazing artists.
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  Speaker 1: But like, it doesn't really make sense with Emilio. You
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  Speaker 1: just got to get there, like gradually. I'm just not
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  Speaker 1: a fucking I don't do it. Get I don't do right.
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  Speaker 1: I think like at the end of the day, like
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  Speaker 1: I think your fans have a certain like love for
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  Speaker 1: some of the stuff you do. It's very transparent, it's
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  Speaker 1: very personal, it's very lyric driven, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: some of the stuff I was hearing from you, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, dude, it wasn't this is interesting. This
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  Speaker 1: is a hard left. Well it was like we were
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  Speaker 1: trying to mix the two. Right. So I've always made
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  Speaker 1: records about girls. I've always done the breakup records and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: But like, why don't we put it on like a
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  Speaker 1: Latin rhythm, right? Okay? Cool? I mean I'm Latino. I
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  Speaker 1: like that those type of records. It's cool. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been making records for a while, so like there's
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  Speaker 1: no harm in experimenting. How did those records do? They
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  Speaker 1: did all? Right? Like did you did you notice like
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  Speaker 1: it open your fan base and or did it also
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  Speaker 1: piss off your regular fan base a little? Well? I
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  Speaker 1: think what I did, which was smart and just not
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  Speaker 1: even deliberate, but just what I've always done is just
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  Speaker 1: I've always like stayed lyrical, even in those spaces. Yeah, so,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you're a fucking beast, so it's like you
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  Speaker 1: can't help but be incredible rapping. Thank you. Hey, that's
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank Yeah. It's like not like people
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  Speaker 1: who rap as good as you. It's like, no matter
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  Speaker 1: what you're gonna do, it's gonna be dope in terms
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  Speaker 1: of like the lyricism, you know. Yeah, so I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's satisfied people a little bit. And I
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  Speaker 1: was still trying to give my my core records, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like we we tried to walk the line, and I still,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I don't think it was inauthentic to
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  Speaker 1: me as a human being, because I like girls. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: from a marketing standpoint, it could have been done a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more deliberately. So would you say the new
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  Speaker 1: stuff coming out is a little bit more like kind
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  Speaker 1: of back to like what got you here type shit? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, well, obviously you put a mixtape out, which
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  Speaker 1: is very fucking you know, I just wanted to wrap, bro,
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  Speaker 1: That's what I mean, Like, that's very vintage of you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it was. It wasn't really a lot of thought
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  Speaker 1: put into it, which, right, which is great. Sometimes that's
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  Speaker 1: the best thing. You just don't man, I'm sure you've
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  Speaker 1: been through this, just overthinking your music. Shit can be
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes the worst finishes better than perfect all the time. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like when you have all these people like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna open this is a smash, we're gonna do this,
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  Speaker 1: this and this, like from the labels or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to deliver and then they never deliver on
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  Speaker 1: one hundred. So when we were doing that, we were
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  Speaker 1: still like dropping the lyrical shit, but this new shit
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  Speaker 1: is like it's more dysfunctional. M you know how many Well,
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: first of all, you got the name of the project,
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Yeat breaking point two. So it's a no. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: I did a mixtape a couple of years ago with
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  Speaker 1: DJ Green Lantern and Billionaire Boys Club called Breaking Point.
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  Speaker 1: It was a couple of years ago, maybe longer. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: my concept of time is fucked. Wait, wouldn't first Green
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  Speaker 1: Lantern tape you did maybe ten years ago? It might
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: have been ten years ago. Okay, wait, wait like twenty eleven,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twelve, So that's the same one. That's the sequel. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's took a while, Okay, I just want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure I'm not crazy. It's like a terminator type. Are
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  Speaker 1: you sure that was like eleven years ago? This is
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: like Avatar Avatar two. It might have been twelve years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was twenty eleven, so eleven, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's more twenty eleven. May yeah, yea, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. You probably know better than I do.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was twenty ten, twenty ten. I'm gonna
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: look it up. We should look it up. Let's look
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: it up. We have these fucking million dollar devices in
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  Speaker 1: our hands. I mean, I'm because I'm trying to remember
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: when I first I feel like I was working at Power.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You might have been, might have been nah,
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  Speaker 1: breaking Point it says it says twenty thirteen on here
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  Speaker 1: twenty twelve. I think twenty eleven, because that's only twenty eleven.
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  Speaker 1: It says here Amelia was Breaking Point produced by j
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  Speaker 1: twenty eleven. So that means the record because that was
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  Speaker 1: when everything wasn't project like we would run singles before projects, right,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't like a post campaign. Okay, so yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was about ten years ago. Let's just say ten well average,
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  Speaker 1: it's a ten a cool decade, a cool you know,
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  Speaker 1: a little dime. Was that your that was your first
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  Speaker 1: or that was your first? I think second that was
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  Speaker 1: your saying okay, because maybe it was this It was
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  Speaker 1: the first one that people cared that I like came
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  Speaker 1: to you for because I remember finding you through my
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  Speaker 1: boy Slim in Phoenix. You did a drop for a
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: once for me shot at the Dear Departy of Clothing.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, shot to you, man. So it's been ten years,
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  Speaker 1: it's been not a couple. Well, dude, I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just fucking my time. My time thing is fucked. Yeah,
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: it's all good man. You fucking you're a veteran. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a vet. Yeah, you're a vet. I want was mine? Bro?
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  Speaker 1: I want like I feel like I haven't gotten what
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  Speaker 1: I deserve, so I'm like after it right now. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think like has been because I feel like
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of artists who are kind of
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: from your era that maybe went like a little underappreciated,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a little under the radar, maybe feel the same
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  Speaker 1: way you feel. What what would you attribute that to?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a right like regardless of like the
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: fact that the Latin shit is huge now. When I
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  Speaker 1: entered the space, I was a brand new artist, a
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  Speaker 1: brand new idea. Like all the Latino artists in the
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: past historically have been like very like more gangster, more
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  Speaker 1: street like. I'm like kind of like late blog era late. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I missed the early I missed like the blog era
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: where everybody's popping. Yeah. So I think it was a
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: mix of like the labels not knowing what box to
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: put me in, right, and then kind of like catching
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: the tail end of the blog era and not really
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: like wanting to like transition to the streaming era, like
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: we kind of fought it a little bit, like why
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: am I giving records away for free? You know? And
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: then you know, I had like some personal shit, like
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: some like I was with Violator for a little bit,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: and like when Chris light he passed it like it
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: fucked me up a little bit, right, fuck a lot
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: of people up, for sure, exactly. So rest in peace
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: to Chris and you know it just I had to
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: get my shit together. I wasn't ready emotionally to do
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of the things that I like feel like
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I'm ready for now. Like one thing they don't tell
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: you about in music is like, yeah, you could be talented,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: you can make records, but if your mindset isn't right,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna. I feel like you're just not going
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: to be given those opportunities. Mmm, you know, like or
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: maybe you're not ready for him exactly, or you can't
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: even recognize that they're there to activate them. Yeah, it's
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: like yeah, because like at that time, you know, I
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: had a list artist calling me and ship and like
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: trying to insert me into situations that they were developing.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: And I didn't even really know at the time, like
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: how to capitalize on those opportunity. Who's trying to sign you?
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I forget who was. There was some there was some
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: talk about you signed with somebody we went to, Uh
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: we were talking with Rose. I was gonna say I
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: thought it was MMG. Yeah. There was a couple of
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: other ones that weren't like publicized, I just keep it private.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I remember the MMG one. That's the one. I think
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of how far did that get down the
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: line because he was trying to sign a lot. He
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: was trying to sign you, Nipsey, uh fucking Don Kennedy.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I mean Rose, I think he was in the middle
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: of changing labels from like Warner to Deaf Jam it
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: was Warner. Yeah, well it was Warner to Atlantic. Oh okay,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Warner to Atlantic. Yeah, because that was when MMG originally
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: was on Warner, and then there was a big I
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: don't know what happened, but then everything from MMG ended
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: up on Atlantic, yeah exactly. And I think we we
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: weren't organized on my end. You know, when I had
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: like the Spotlight at that moment, it was accidental. It
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't deliberate. Like I had done a record with like
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Big crit and Laws, and I remember shouts and Laws
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: from Tampa, big shouts. What happened to loss? I think
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: another one got caught up at Laws. I think the
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: team he was working with took the joy out of
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the creative wasn't any Justice League. I can't say names definitively,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: So you're saying the Justice League took the creative process
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: out of it. I'm just kidding. No, I mean Rook.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I love Rook and I love the Justice League. They
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: are some of my favorite producer of all time. But
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I think you know, when you deal with certain people,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: they haven't popped an artists off. Let's be honest, they're
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: fucking incredible. But I mean they also signed a homie
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: from Tampa. What was a kid's name, Prime Prime, nice
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: kid from Tampa. I mean, I lived in Tampa, and
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: justicee fucking legendary. They're some of my favorite producers of
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: all time. I mean, they have like the best Rick
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Ross songs of all time ever. Yeah, but like out
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: side of the Rick Ross stuff, I think they gave
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: him his sound, you know, they gave him his sound,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: and I really wish that, Like, I really wish they
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I wish they did more shit. Like maybe they are
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm just not hip to it, you know, but
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I'll say this Laws was fire. Laws is super talented,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if it was like the label
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: side of things. I don't know where, but somewhere along
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the line he lost to love first. It was hard.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I think he's dropping records again now though, but I
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: think that's why he stepped back. Should reach out there, Rock,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Let's reach out to Laws. Let's bring Tampa's to Laws.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I fuck with Laws heavy, good dude. That was kind
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: of Yeah, he was kind of like late blog era
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: guy too. You guys are kind of the same kind
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: of you know, ye Yeah. So you did a record
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: with Laws and krit Yeah, and it's just like the
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: way I came off on the record put a lot
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: of attention on me that I wasn't ready for. Like
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't even have fucking records done. So it's like
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: we were in a situation where I was like, as
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: you know, right, you got to have shit ready to
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: go for sure immediately, and we were just chasing our tail.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: So I had to step back, pause, build up like
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: a folder, hard drive, hundreds of records, videos, all that shit,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: and just get ready to execute. So when you did
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: you like meet face to face with Ross about the
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: whole shit. Yeah, we flew out there. I flew out
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: to Oakland one time with him. I was in Philly
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: with him one time. It was Meek Millier in Philly.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't think so. I think it was
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: on they were on tour with Lil Wayne Yea at
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the time. There's a few artists on image like I
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: love to Pill shot out. My guy PI doublel Pill
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: is super dope too. He's super dope. Yeah, I don't
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: know what happened, man, he was so fire though. Well
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I kind of know what happened, but shout out to Pill.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: He's a he's a great guy. Sometimes your demons get
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the best, That's what I'll say. Oh yeah, I don't know.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Pill was a beast man. But yeah, not that that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like you were part of like a dope
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: class of rappers. I just feel like sometimes man, like
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, man, like you said, sometimes
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: they're not ready. Sometimes I had to be humble to
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I was a dick. Ninety nine percent of this ship too,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: is luck. Like people think that like it's hard work,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: it's personally you gotta be ready to like be persevering
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and persevered through all kinds of funck shit, and you
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: also got to catch a break. Yep. And that's the thing, right.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I think when you're talented, I think you can create
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: opportunities by being consistent. But if you're not consistent and
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: thosees come, it fucks you. Yeah, for sure. And also
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: like I was a cocky little prick, broa, you're a
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: little cocky. Yeah, I think it's cool with me, but
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I felt that for sure. Yeah, I had to be humbled.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Had a rapper syndrome, Yep, that happens all with a
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: lot of guys. Yep. I had to be humbled, and
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, some people never got humbled
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and they just accelerated, you know, popped off. I would
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: do what you just did, look like the Hitler salute.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: We're gonna point out that's not what he did. That's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: not what I did. He said, sorry anyway, now, uh yeah,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: So what would you say? Humbled? You life? Bro? Like
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: having situations that I was planning on not paying out, yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you know, and like I was, I was with a
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: team of talented individuals and we weren't necessarily always seeing
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: out of eye. And when things, you know, when when
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: ship that you're planning on happening doesn't happen, and it
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: happens repeatedly, you start to realize like, all right, maybe
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I'm the problem, right, you know, So I had to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: look internally and like really examine my behavior, my level
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: of preparation for certain things, like you know, when you
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: come to an interview, you got to make sure you
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: have your bars ready, and you know, it was different.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Then it's like I got this, yeah yeah, and it's
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: like now I'm like, you know what, like this is
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the spot that a lot of people would kill to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: be in, even in the spot that I'm in now, yeah,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: for sure. So I can't take that for granted. And
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I can't act like it's old to me. I can't
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: act like any relationship is old to me or any
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: interaction is old to me. And people respect. Most people
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: really need to walk that way. Man. A lot of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: people don't, and it's catching up to a lot of people,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: it is, and then they end up like, oh shit,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: and by then all their fucking relationships are burned to
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the ground. Bro, Now that's real. Did you ever like,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: like I feel like a lot of people who fuck
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: with psychedelics or eat a bunch of dams? Now you
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: know it's crazy. I've been given so many fucking mushrooms
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: lately tried them. I've never done them. You should do them, man,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Well you're not. You're kind of like strategical. I'm pretty clean. Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I don't drink fucking kombucha, and I like ko you know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I like the fermented mushroom juice. That's what it is, right,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: It's like a fucking must should taste like hippie soda.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: It's good. I mean, I should taste like fucking it's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: fucking shaggy from fucking Scooby Doo's ball here tastes terrible,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: is got awful, like yo, it's a probiotic like, so
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: what it tastes like shit? Yeah it does. It was
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: an acquired taste for sure, but sons like most alcohol,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like alcohol is terrible. Yeah, people need to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: stop back. I'm like, it's good. Yeah, alcohol fucking sucks
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you like it because it gets you drunk. But no
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: one's drinking tequila and being like damn that. I mean,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: there's people who say, I mean because there is a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: difference between shitty tequila and good Yeah, some of it's
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: smoother than for sure, but it's still in taste, like
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't like if you knew you could drink an
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: entire gallon of it and and nothing would happen to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you and it wouldn't get you drunk. If it was
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: just like a flavor of a soda, you wouldn't drink
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: it because it tastes like shit. Yeah, Like if you
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: went to like McDonald's and they had tequila on the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: fucking the soda machine, like, you wouldn't pick it because
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to drink a whole cup of that. Yeah,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: it's fucking terrible to I mean it's alcohol. It's like,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: but I'm saying, like, let's say take the alcohol in
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the what would happen to you if you actually drink
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: a full cup of tequila? Take all that out of it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Let's say it was just a drink that tasted that way.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Nobody would drink it. It's fucking terrible. Yeah, but it's
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: for a purpose. It's a purpose you get drunk. Yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: same thing with beer. Fuck beer. I love Corona, but
• 22:35
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy. I was. I didn't go to
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  Speaker 1: your hometown, but I went to, uh the top of
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: New York, upstate New York. I went to Buffalo for
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a day, which isn't too far from where you're from,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: right hour. Yeah, it's a whole way different up there. Huh,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: it's different. It's it feels like the South low key. Yeah,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: it definitely. I like Buffalo fell a little like Detroit
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: because I've been to both places. Well that's I mean
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Rochester Buffalo. You have any any city in America that
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  Speaker 1: had like a lot of prosperity during like the era
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: of production when we had like factories and plants and shit.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: When you take that away, you're just going to see
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: it economically depressed wasteland. Right, there's someone else from Rochester
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that's I feel like a spash splash eto. Yeah, shot
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to Rochester, man, rock Town, Rocktown, Flower City five A five.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Is there flowers there? Yeah? Lilocks, lilocks Lightlock's beautiful. What's
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: it look? It's like like small petals, It's like a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: like a kind of like grown on a I don't
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: know how to describe it. Beautiful, nice little How close
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to Canada is that? Like an hour and a half.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Do you go hang out in Canada when you're growing up?
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Not really to go to Toronto. I've been in Toronto,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: but not not when I was growing Oh once when
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I was young. You're pretty traveled. Yeah, I've been around.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I've been around. Your opinion, what city has the most
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: beautiful women? Miami? I agree, Yeah, because Miami is like
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: a melting pot of all, like the women from Latin America,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: which is all I love. If you go to Miami
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and you go to McDonald's, yeah, the trick work in
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the drive through is a seven at least. Yeah, it
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: she'll be bad. It's wild. Well that's in the US,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Like if you go to like Catacas, Venezuela or something.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to get into that. Yeah, because
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: if I go out there, I'm getting divorced. I couldn't.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I couldn't go. I could, I just couldn't know. Columbia
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: trips and Colombia is the problem if I go there.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: If I go to Brazil, I'm not sure what would happen.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: But with that being said, Miami's beautiful place. Miami's Miami's fire. Yeah.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like Miami too is at all the cities
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: in the US. I won't even say it, so shout
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: out to Mia. What no, no, no say. I will
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: just say what we got to give up to Miami.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there for the Billboard Awards at the
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: end of the month. Okay, let's go to get yourself
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: some fucking chop. I guess some Venezuelan food. I went to. Uh,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I've never had that kind of food. Bro, let's let's
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: fucking let's make that happen. I barely just had papoosas
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: like three years ago. What for the first time when
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I moved to La. It's the same type of massa
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: like cornmeal. So papoosas is like for people who don't
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: know it's El Salvadorian food. I'm from Phoenix. We only
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: have Mexican food, and if there is papoosas in Phoenix,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: they can't be great. But out here in LA it's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: kind of like it's like, probably I would venture to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: say there's probably more El Salvadorians here than anywhere else
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: in the US. I would probably agree. Yeah, So I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: have the census in front of me. So like the
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the the Papoosas are amazing. Yeah, if you go to
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the right place, it's like game changing. So like shout
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: out to Papoosas. But I never obviously love Cuban food.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Oh fucking awesome. There's like that really old restaurant. It's
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: in Miami. It's uh it's in Versailles, yeah, Versaia. Yeah,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: that's where we went. That ship was good. Versi is good.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Have you been up to Portos? Portos got some they
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: got so you know what it is. I'mnna be honest
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: about Portos when someone tells me it's the number one
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: rated restaurant in the country for on YELP. When I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: go there, I just expect to ejaculate when I eat
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the food. I mean I didn't bakery, I didn't come.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: It's all I'm gonna say. It's like one of those things. Man, La.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like La food is real hit or missed too.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Portals is fire. It is good. I love the meat,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the meatballs, like the little the Papa egg and those
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: are fire. I love they got a chickens. They got
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: both their chicken sandwiches. They are fucking crazy. The Cuban
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: sandwich is cool, but they got two chicken sandwiches that
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: are insane. And then they're you know, obviously they got
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: great uh pastries, and they got a guava French toast.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Fucking delicious, bro Guava French toast, that's not good. I'm
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: not a big on the guava bro I'm telling I
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: had like one of the guava pastries from Portos with
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the cheese. You gotta have with the cheese, though, I
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: had whatever it is the one that they're one of
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: them is just just the guava and the other has
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the cream cheese too. You got to get the cream
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: cheese to balance out the jelly. I don't know, man,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Guaba might not be my fruit. Maybe maybe you need
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: like some strawberry jam. You're oh, yeah, give me the strawberry.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Fucking basic as fuck, Give me the strawberry. What's your wife?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: What is your wife? She's Mexican and she don't what
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: if she cooks the fuck out of food? Does she
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: make like handmade tortillas and shiit? Uh? She can, but
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I mean it's not necessary. It's kind of a lot
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: to make a handmade tor a lot. Yeah, it's she
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: makes everything else homemade. She's very you know, my wife
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: cooks sole and all that. Yeah, Mexican food is so
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: different on the West Coast in New York because it's
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: really it's authentic. Yeah yeah, New York Mexican food is trash.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: It's god awful. It's awful. Bro, It's so bad. And
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: so is Florida Mexican food. I lived in Tampa, and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: trying to find real Mexican food in Tampa was fucked.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It was the worst shit ever. I was like, fuck, man,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I have to drive like forty five minutes to the
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: shitty little taco stand and it was like good enough,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't great. Well, they it's like different tacos.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: They like that's terrible. Some like in New York they
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: have hard shell tacos. Bro. I mean, look like I'm
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: talking about Oldel Pass. They bought the shells from it breaks.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah fuck that bro. Do you miss the East Coast?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I missed the East coast? Really? Yeah? You
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: don't miss the East coast? Well your West coast, boy,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: you West coast. I mean it was I don't give
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: a East Coast was cool. I only live in Florida.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean this is south It's different. Florida
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: was cool. I love Florida. The beach is nice, the
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: beach is here suck well, it depends more heroin needles
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to dodge. Yeah, La is a fucking open air drug market.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: The fucking water's freezing. And Florida the water's piss warm.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: It's clear, and it's clear. Beaches are all sandy. There
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: might be some fucking you know, there might be a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: couple of maga hats on the beach, but you know whatever.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: You know what, man right wing, left wing, same bird, yeah,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: same ship. Both of them are batshit crazy. If you
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: go to the extreme right and left, it shit gets
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: hairy on it either side. And yeah, I fuck burn
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the whole shit down. Just tell me what makes like
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: actual sense, and that's what I support. Does this make
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: sense or is this batshit crazy? Hmmm, well, you know
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: what it is. I feel like politicians over the past
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: five to ten years have been less focused on policy
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and more focused on like seo and clickbait. Yes, And
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it's like they want to make headlines, yeah, and they
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: want to be on Twitter, they want to trend and
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it's like, why don't you just shut the fuck up
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: get something done? Yeah, go get something done, like you
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: all suck. They all suck. Yeah, they all suck. And
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I used to be I mean, I'm still a liberal guy.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: You know. I've was in for Joe Biden, but god damn, bro,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: if this pandemic hasn't, maybe like feel like, what do
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: we I'm looking at a mother so like that. How
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: these motherfucking left motherfuckers more crazy than these right motherfuckers?
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: On crazy? It's crazy, it's crazy, and these people like
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: nobody has like their finger like on the pulse of
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: what's really going on? Everybody, or like normal people, like
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: why don't we just fucking talk to the normal people
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: who aren't screaming on Twitter and showing up to rallies.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, just the normal motherfuckers. It's bad. It's
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: so bad on both sides. Like I'm embarrassed to be
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I would be embarrassed to be either side. Bro, And listen,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I voted for Joe Biden. I hate Joe Biden, but
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: god damn, yeah, he's been fucking awful, bro, he's been awful.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: The way we pulled out of Afghanistan was insane. There's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of shit going on. You got to keep
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: him off bikes, keep him off bikes. Just leticious make
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: him talk as at least as possible. Economies fucked, Powell's
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: fucking horrible. Yellen's fucking horrible. Everything's fucked. Yeah, But that
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: being said, if you have some student dad at least
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: ten grand of it's been choven off. You see you later. Well,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: you know, inflation's not a big deal. It's just flation's fucked.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Inflation is fucked. Yeah. I hope they don't run him again.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I think they will think what run what Joe Biden?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: He's a one term president for sure. I don't know who.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: He might not even live through this term. He's fucking demented,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: let's hope. So I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Sucks
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: because Kamala Harris ain't any fucking better. I haven't even
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: seen her speak. She's top cop, bro, she was incarcerating
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: more people than I don't know. You know what's crazy?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Whoever is the first presidential candidate that comes out and
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: says and just like, imagine if if Joe Biden really
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: wanted to win again, yeah, and if Trump wanted to
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: just grab all of the left's votes, they literally would
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: come out and just say We're gonna make marijuana federally legal,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and everyone who's in prison for weed is getting released.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: That's what they need to do. Everybody would vote for
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: that person. Normal people would be like, I mean, well,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I mean I think you and I were like from
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: liberally leaning cities. Yeah, you go to the Midwest, bro,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: there's a stark difference between the attitude. I feel like
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: even the Rednecks I know love weed. Yeah. Yeah, they
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: all fucking smoke weed, and they all probably have cousins
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: that are in jail for weed defenses. It's like, dude, like,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: what the fuck? Well, the we sh the war on
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: drugs is just crazy in general, they need to like
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: prohibition has never worked for anything historically ever. Right. All
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I know is what I knew about the war on
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: drugs when I was a kid was all because of
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a mortal technique. Yep. And it's true. But it's like,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: you have this shit going on with the war on drugs, right.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: You have families being separated because it's only hitting certain communities. Right.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: You have a whole black market economy that's been created
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: to like perpetuate this war, right in this endless fucking
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: enemy less war, and all it does is like keep
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: people in prison, keep you know, the money printers on
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: for like the police, the prison industry on. Yeah, and
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't stop drug use. Would you be
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: a proponent of legalizing drugs and the legalize all of it?
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Bro because people have fucking we're just talking about it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I walk through downtown Los Angeles right now and I'm
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: breathing in crack smoke anyways, So at least if you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: decriminalize it, you could regulate it. So you could be regulated.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: There could be places where people aren't getting fucking fetanol
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: laced fucking pills exactly, and there's no black market economy.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: People getting shot on the cartel would be a lot
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: less powerful because I think Mexico is about to legalize
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I think I saw they were oh no, no, no,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Colombia is legalizing cocaine. Why not, So that's gonna fuck up.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It's their entire economy anyway, So they're going to legalize it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: It's Colombia. I saw that rugs, and it makes sense
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: because think about all the violence that's used to support
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the drug trade. No, for sure, I think as much
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: as it might push people to try drugs more, I
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: think that you'll save a lot of lives in the
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: long run. And there's also like with drug use, there's
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: a stigma, right with addiction, and if you start to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: decriminalize or legalize in some cases drugs, like it helps
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Like if chemically treating addiction worked, you could get a
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: nicotine patch and stop smoking cigarettes, right, Yeah, But there's
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: so many other things that are factored into what keep
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you fucking stuck on a substance. Right, you have the
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: social component, you have the emotional component, and it's like
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: if you decriminalize things and you start to destigmatize them,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: at least it allows you to resocialize if you're an addict. Yeah,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and I think too, it also removes the romanticization of
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: it for like a kid growing up, because I know
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: in some countries where like the drinking age is like fourteen,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: like there's like less alcoholics. I think it's Italy. Yeah,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: it's like yo, like if people want to try shit
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: because they think it's like, oh shit, I'm rebelling, I'm
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: fucking I'm I'm gonna get I can't try this shit.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go find it. But if it's like if
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: it's just readily available, I think it'll make it like
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: less popular with kids, which is kind of weird to say. No,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense because people want to do what
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: they can't do, especially at that age. It's like human nature.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: If you're a kid, you're trying to assert your authority
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: and independence, right, so why wouldn't you. It'd be no
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: different than like, I mean, look, at the end of
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the day, alcohol is probably way more deadly than a
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: lot of drugs, which is yeah, maybe except like fail biates, yeah, dopeiates, yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I would say, but like, it's probably more deadly than meth.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know about enough about math. Neither do I,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: but I mean I would venture to say that would
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: alcohol probably have killed more people every year than meth.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, we should look that up unless you're
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: smoking fucking feting al lace meth, yeah, which is where
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: it's you know. But that's why you need to legalize
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: meths so you could regulate what you should be able
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: to just go to the store and buy some fucking Adderall. Well,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: that's what happens with drugs, right, Like if you're buying
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: heroin on the street, it's strong on Tuesday, so you
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: need two bundles but then on fucking Thursday, it's week
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: so you need six bundles. But then Friday you go
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: to use again. It was weekdyesterday, but they hit you
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: with the strong dose from and they hit you with
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: that fetti and you're fucking dead. Yeah it's crazy. Yeah, yeah,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: hope you. I mean, I think like the thing about uh,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: you know, pills and heroin and all that. I mean
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: that shit, if it's if it was regulated, if you
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: could go somewhere, I know you're getting a safe dosage,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like like it still sucks.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: You should try to get off of it, for sure,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like either way, you're gonna
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: get the drugs. Just now you remove the sharing needles,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: HIV shit, fucking people overdose it, fatan Ah. You kind
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: of remove a lot of the power from the cartel. Yeah. Yeah,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: this's like and you're not gonna stop people from fucking
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: using drugs. You're not gonna stop people from using drugs.
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  Speaker 1: the interview. So when is the new music coming out?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So we're dropping Creep with Me October twenty eighth. That's
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the video in a single I Fucked it Up. So
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: we're dropping Creep with Me September twenty eighth. Okay, we're
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: dropping the video the week after and it's just going
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to be NonStop after that, and then the project before
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the end of the year, maybe Project Top of the Year, Okay,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: because you know the fourth fourth quarters kind of everything
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: gets shut down in December. Yeah, music industry is the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: fucking worst, bro. Yeah, And even like beginning of January,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: you almost want to like drop the third or fourth
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: week of January. People don't. People go, I'm on vacation
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: till Thanksgiving. From Thanksgiving to like April, they're just gone
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and we don't even do anything but socialized for work.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: That's our jobs. Yeah, this fucking makes no sense. Yeah,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I might be one of those guys this year, one
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: of the for a month. He just made that choice,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: like I'm out, everybody else is off. Cool, let's stack
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: up some interviews and I'm going to Mexico. That's going
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: to haway. You're going to sell people in out content, Yeah,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: for sure. No, you can't take off though, you can't
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: take all the way off, especially what I do. You know, bro,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: people take off. Oh, in the music industry, they're gone, gone,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: you can't get nothing done. The Spotify guys take off.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Everybody's off. But why I don't know, man, It's just
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: kind of the norm in the industry. Bro. Industry needs
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to be changed. Yeah, I mean in a different a
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: bunch of different ways that it needs to be more
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: favorable for the artists. It needs to be like more productive.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: You know who's doing a good jobs. Lou Russell. I'm
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: familiar with him, like I've seen his freestyle. This new
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: thing is he's he built a venue at his house.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Well that's fire already, and in order to attend, you
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: have to put an offer for your ticket. So then
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: he goes and looks at all of the offers and
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: he picks whoever he wants to accept. So like he
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: might have a two hundred person show, but make like
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: twenty grand in his backyard. And when he goes on tour,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: he's gonna do select cities and he's only going to
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: do that model for his whole tour. So if you're
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: in like maybe he does five cities, right, ten cities, whatever,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: when you go see him live, you have to put
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: an offer in for your ticket and then you'll find
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: out if he accepts it. That's fucking crazy. That's super inches.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: No promoters, no split in the house. Hey calls the venue,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: how much to rent the venue? Rents it out, takes
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: it all. This is what my sound looks like. Can
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you support what my setup is? If not cool, we'll
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: find a different venue. I mean the promoters nowadays they
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: want you to do all the shit on socials anyway,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: So it's like so it's like, why not keep all
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the money? Yeah? Exactly, So anything else coming up? Man,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: we h. I did a project with the Coyotes and
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Domain got that fire, super fire. Yep. Those guys are dope,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: both of them are, I mean Coyotes are. The two
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: brothers are incredible and Domain is incredible, super dope and
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: it's good. Like I like, I've been really rapping some
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Cypress Morino production on there. You know, we haven't linked
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: with him yet, but his names come up a couple times.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I haven't met. It works with both of them. He's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: dope from La Super He's dope. Yeah, I definitely would
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: like to reach out to him. We got that, we
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: got the Breaking Point two project. I got tons of videos.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just going bro and like, back on your shit.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I'm back on my ship and it's like I feel good.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Well listen, go run up. The September twenty eighth is
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: the video September twenty eighth creep with Me on DSP's
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: and the week later the video okay, and then we
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: just dropped the freestyle. That's probably the other YouTube video
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: that you could see that's crazy. Yeah it's fire. I
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: fucked up a word, but you didn't. I didn't. Don't.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Don't even put that out there because they won't notice.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: And I let him. I like it when people are like, yo,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: what Internet's the worst brou They'll be welcome. Emano Rojas,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Boom Piece, Fire