Latest / Club 520 Podcast / Club 520 - Shelvin Mack on playing with Jeff Teague on Hawks, facing LeBron’s Cavs, Kobe scoring 60
Transcript
- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume.
- 0:05Speaker 2: All right, we're back another episode of Club five twenty Podcasts.
- 0:08Speaker 2: I'm the host of My name is DJ Wells. Special
- 0:11Speaker 2: guests in the bill to return the guests. If you know,
- 0:13Speaker 2: you know, you know what I'm saying. Back then, O
- 0:14Speaker 2: O G. Five twenty days. We're gonna introduce my man's
- 0:16Speaker 2: last my far I left my dog BI should be
- 0:18Speaker 2: hearing out the priles.
- 0:19Speaker 1: How you nasty? Nasty? Let's get to a baby, right, tig?
- 0:23Speaker 1: It's crazy? You know what I'm saying.
- 0:24Speaker 2: We started this podcast my boy was in the Black
- 0:26Speaker 2: Forest's White license.
- 0:27Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 0:27Speaker 2: I hate this taking finds every week and got show
- 0:29Speaker 2: today in the home Whites.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Man, I don't care, man, you don't care, man, you
- 0:34Speaker 1: don't care the fuck that.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Chick man introduced that nigga door Dash chick came in.
- 0:40Speaker 2: How finally that's a quick return. It wasn't that quick
- 0:47Speaker 2: to my writing. My dog young not show your tig?
- 0:49Speaker 1: How you what? Man? Chilling? Bro? You know what I mean?
- 0:51Speaker 4: Got Homie in the bill, one of my closest teammates,
- 0:54Speaker 4: one of my favorite teammates. But I gotta say something
- 0:57Speaker 4: before we start. Oh buddy had y'all messed up in LExEN.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Yeah, Homie.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Uh, it was on Diamond Mitchell's coach, coach whoever he is,
- 1:07Speaker 2: don't ever disrespect You're.
- 1:09Speaker 5: Watching a lot of basketball. Then jash with Johns. That's
- 1:12Speaker 5: the young kid. He's top top ten in the country.
- 1:14Speaker 4: Yeah, and he tried to disrespect Lexington like that and saying,
- 1:18Speaker 4: who shoven Max. We're gonna're gonna find out what are
- 1:21Speaker 4: you talking about? What he was about it? Though, I
- 1:23Speaker 4: hold you.
- 1:25Speaker 1: That's crazy. It was about it. I don't know. Hard
- 1:28Speaker 1: today with the off white and you with it with
- 1:30Speaker 1: the te Scotts. He's like paper. I hoping he Man,
- 1:35Speaker 1: we got nigga died next week.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Man, but till my left, like I said, Return against
- 1:49Speaker 2: Family had the show. One of the coldest college basketball
- 1:52Speaker 2: players of all time. Man from the les going crazy,
- 1:56Speaker 2: shoving Man, big Dog.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Appreciate you slide once again, Homie.
- 1:59Speaker 4: Yes, sir, Man appreciated you have me. I love your podcast,
- 2:01Speaker 4: which I doing.
- 2:02Speaker 5: Uh. Listen to all the stories. You know, all of
- 2:06Speaker 5: them true. A lot of people think they're not true.
- 2:08Speaker 5: Most of them true. And I lived it, been around and.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Seeing it all.
- 2:12Speaker 2: You've been a part of the stories. You know what
- 2:13Speaker 2: I'm saying, they ain't made it. That's why we got
- 2:15Speaker 2: this episode. The crazy part is met the sixth agrees
- 2:18Speaker 2: of separation with you in this episode, and the whole
- 2:21Speaker 2: gang is funny, Like y'all got to talk here about
- 2:23Speaker 2: how you first met chill Man. It's a reason why
- 2:28Speaker 2: because that's how he met Tig and vice versa.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this one right here, I met him. He
- 2:34Speaker 3: had on a black shirt, some football jeans.
- 2:38Speaker 1: I was flexing it times out right felt jeans. John,
- 2:43Speaker 1: This is two thousand and a and this is two
- 2:47Speaker 1: thousand and eight.
- 2:48Speaker 3: You know, my dude Berry shoutut to my dog Barry
- 2:50Speaker 3: was cutting bro here and then you know she'll just
- 2:52Speaker 3: wants to link up with the black people. So I
- 2:55Speaker 3: didn't know he was going to the NBA. I had
- 2:57Speaker 3: him in the trenches getting his haircut.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Yeah, was at the Dice Games at the trap got
- 3:03Speaker 2: I got put.
- 3:04Speaker 1: In office plenty of times.
- 3:05Speaker 5: Everyone thinking I think it's something different of him be
- 3:08Speaker 5: hand on Butler's campus all the time.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Shout out to Brad Steve. They thought I was trapping.
- 3:13Speaker 3: I had the twenty six on the three hundred, so
- 3:17Speaker 3: you look like ice Cube broo. My ship was white
- 3:24Speaker 3: than cue. But yeah, I had you know, I took
- 3:27Speaker 3: care of my dog wife's here. I wouldn't have had
- 3:30Speaker 3: he in them type of situations if I knew he
- 3:32Speaker 3: was going to the league. But he was always good
- 3:35Speaker 3: with me, and he a Trimmor's legend.
- 3:37Speaker 5: He had me, what's Keith shine? What's it due? If
- 3:40Speaker 5: we went to go see he was already getting to it.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Uh No, I took you to walk a flakka.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you did not want my boy to go
- 3:48Speaker 2: to the draft.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Get you put you in the city in that but
- 3:53Speaker 1: Butler is right in my in my ghetto, so you
- 3:56Speaker 1: know it was right there a street. Yeah.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Man, that was so funny about it because when we
- 4:00Speaker 2: was at Butler, like, it was like funny to see
- 4:02Speaker 2: people come to the school and you know, the panthers
- 4:04Speaker 2: at Buller don't tell you anything south of forty second Street.
- 4:07Speaker 1: They didn't show you that Butler bubble, which is a
- 4:09Speaker 1: for real bubble out the ways. You didn't know. You
- 4:11Speaker 1: wouldn't know.
- 4:11Speaker 2: But when my roommate taught me, he walked to that
- 4:14Speaker 2: gas station on thirty eighth Illinois with Donald Yes, true.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Yeah, he was trying to get it. He was trying
- 4:22Speaker 1: to get put yeah, be his last chicken. I don't
- 4:31Speaker 1: know what he was alter friantship, but it's so funny.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Like you said that, Butler, Bubble, you're safe over there,
- 4:36Speaker 2: but outside of that, get smoky.
- 4:37Speaker 1: So y'all linking up over there was funny. And I
- 4:39Speaker 1: was okamps at the time.
- 4:40Speaker 2: And I remember hearing pulling up Butler pet He knew
- 4:43Speaker 2: this nigga bo hard about with the cars man.
- 4:45Speaker 1: That was crazy. He said, they really thought you was
- 4:47Speaker 1: trapping out there. Butler.
- 4:48Speaker 3: People telling on me. He said, I was giving them
- 4:50Speaker 3: liquor and all kind of stuff like it was crazy.
- 4:53Speaker 3: I wasn't even twenty one yet for real, but I
- 4:55Speaker 3: was over there party, you know, make sure my guy
- 4:57Speaker 3: was straight. Trying to my dog Emerson Grant. I just
- 5:01Speaker 3: saw Ryan Ron coaching for Atlanta. Shout out to Ron,
- 5:04Speaker 3: coach right, shout out to Gordon. Oh gosh, my boy,
- 5:08Speaker 3: every Jukes too, that's my dad to me. Every Jukes
- 5:11Speaker 3: used to well, I can't speak too much on that, but.
- 5:16Speaker 4: Like what's going on, No madded to have him going
- 5:22Speaker 4: on for regions.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Shout to my dog jukester Man.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Before we talk about the college days. Man, we gotta
- 5:30Speaker 2: talk about high school. You know what I'm saying. You
- 5:32Speaker 2: from Lexing went crazy in high school all time me
- 5:34Speaker 2: score your high school he the high school coach. How
- 5:37Speaker 2: would you feel having to play your team that scored
- 5:39Speaker 2: the most buckets and program history?
- 5:42Speaker 1: Here a gun, I'm lay with sh I know you're
- 5:45Speaker 1: a gun. I ain't playing with you, you know. On
- 5:48Speaker 1: he had eight minutes to get out of see Jeff
- 5:51Speaker 1: walking out of sideline. Put this thing out coming out
- 5:54Speaker 1: the game.
- 5:56Speaker 5: But no, just being very aggressive going out there trying
- 5:59Speaker 5: to score. I knew, uh, something I just had to
- 6:01Speaker 5: do to get to the next level. But then playing
- 6:03Speaker 5: in the NBA, like with Jeff, other good point guards,
- 6:06Speaker 5: being a backup from the majority of the time, you
- 6:07Speaker 5: gotta gotta get it in where you get And I
- 6:11Speaker 5: love Jeff, you know, being the starting point guard one
- 6:14Speaker 5: of my good friends. They tell me every time shoot
- 6:16Speaker 5: that thing.
- 6:17Speaker 1: Facts. So we gotta talk about that.
- 6:21Speaker 2: We're gonna go back to the college days, of course,
- 6:22Speaker 2: because you wanted the coldest college place of all time.
- 6:25Speaker 1: But how did y'all meet.
- 6:28Speaker 6: Men?
- 6:29Speaker 1: Sure? Yeah, because of be hen so be hen Uh.
- 6:32Speaker 4: He used to come to Atlanta when I played for
- 6:34Speaker 4: the Hawk Shell was still in college and be here
- 6:37Speaker 4: a coming like my nigga, shall will kill you?
- 6:39Speaker 2: Who is shall like sholar Man play for Butler. That
- 6:43Speaker 2: coach was like, no, he's in college. Coach grade saw
- 6:48Speaker 2: that the past few weeks.
- 6:51Speaker 1: It was like.
- 6:53Speaker 3: That's what your Yeah, but you was trying to tell
- 6:55Speaker 3: me that, Like Butler was good and all this ship
- 6:58Speaker 3: and I'm.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Not it's better than wake for us.
- 7:02Speaker 3: Just had played in the Horizon lost to Cleveland. Y'all
- 7:05Speaker 3: lost to a Horizon League team. Serious, That's that was
- 7:08Speaker 3: our problem. Finish taking serious finish story still interesting. It
- 7:17Speaker 3: was like shout out the Norse. I with but so
- 7:21Speaker 3: he talking crazy, were about to was getting drafted. We
- 7:25Speaker 3: having a pickup game. It was a lockou year baby.
- 7:30Speaker 3: So I see shoven mc name on the list of
- 7:32Speaker 3: opposite was about to play.
- 7:34Speaker 1: I marked that.
- 7:35Speaker 4: Yeah he's getting killed today. We in Indianapolis. He don't
- 7:39Speaker 4: even know, Yeah, he don't know nothing, but he's marked.
- 7:42Speaker 4: As soon as he got on the court, I go
- 7:44Speaker 4: at him full speed.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Donkey did man, I'm put in there be here like
- 7:50Speaker 2: every time like this, she don't know what he what's
- 7:53Speaker 2: going on.
- 7:54Speaker 1: I'm not talking to I'm not trying to be his
- 7:56Speaker 1: friend in the charity game. I'm not players you all
- 8:01Speaker 1: day right there. But some cont.
- 8:05Speaker 2: This program was like one of the bigger matchups Indianapolis
- 8:08Speaker 2: was what the DC proram you had, John Wall, the
- 8:12Speaker 2: Marcus Cousins, they all came to tell it was all
- 8:15Speaker 2: Indiana seam put together.
- 8:16Speaker 1: It was a really big deal.
- 8:18Speaker 2: If you ever see the highlights, as crazy as I'm
- 8:20Speaker 2: sure they clip it up, but for being a line
- 8:22Speaker 2: you up like that and that's serious of a game
- 8:24Speaker 2: is crazy.
- 8:24Speaker 5: It's very it's a lockout. I never played in the NBA.
- 8:28Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on.
- 8:31Speaker 1: On the court. I should watching the shot like everybody
- 8:36Speaker 1: you know at that time. But you you cooked me
- 8:39Speaker 1: that time.
- 8:40Speaker 4: I was just it wouldn't even you Browns playing behre.
- 8:42Speaker 4: I got you back though before because when you got
- 8:45Speaker 4: the league chased you down.
- 8:49Speaker 1: You got that flock you got was like bro never
- 8:57Speaker 1: stopping till you got on the team. When when I
- 8:59Speaker 1: got traded Utah, I gave y'all at work in Utah.
- 9:03Speaker 4: Okay, are you sure about you stumbled? We can pull
- 9:08Speaker 4: up the clips he talking about your stumbled.
- 9:10Speaker 3: I remember that out.
- 9:13Speaker 1: I remember we got somebody that I'm gonna pull it out,
- 9:18Speaker 1: stumble it hit the three in the corner. It's crazy.
- 9:23Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Okay, what's you mad at? Game? Ship?
- 9:29Speaker 5: I know, I guess when I first got traded from Atlanta. Uh,
- 9:33Speaker 5: I was just going hard, same things. I'm not sure
- 9:35Speaker 5: what I have, but I know I played well when
- 9:37Speaker 5: I guess my former team.
- 9:40Speaker 4: I just remember when you I know that's gonna be
- 9:42Speaker 4: a drop when you were starting and I came back
- 9:45Speaker 4: maybe the next year because after I killed you, I
- 9:48Speaker 4: went to your house and beat you.
- 9:48Speaker 1: The man this boy, because get on the crazy. It
- 9:58Speaker 1: is crazy. But the first time we played all you
- 10:05Speaker 1: did hoop though, I remember, I was hyped.
- 10:07Speaker 4: I was like, damn shure hooping. That's the second time
- 10:11Speaker 4: we played in Utah because but was mad. He's like,
- 10:17Speaker 4: you know, are you gonna play for real tonight? Because
- 10:20Speaker 4: your friends on the team.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Here we go.
- 10:22Speaker 3: But he did it to my little brothers. All that
- 10:25Speaker 3: to say, I'm the reason why they friends today.
- 10:28Speaker 1: He the reason me and Shill started hanging out. I brought.
- 10:34Speaker 4: Had a lot of great time. Spright, dirty dirty sprite. No,
- 10:42Speaker 4: it was just it was just tequila and Spry. We
- 10:44Speaker 4: used to talk over the game. For sure, Team Dennis
- 10:47Speaker 4: was lit. Team Dennis was lit over team.
- 10:51Speaker 2: But before we get to the NBA Draft, we gotta
- 10:53Speaker 2: talk about what you did in college, Bro, Like I said,
- 10:55Speaker 2: one of the most underrated college players of all time.
- 10:58Speaker 2: I was on campus when y'all went to two back
- 11:00Speaker 2: to back national championship games, and you was a very
- 11:04Speaker 2: big part of that.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Bro.
- 11:06Speaker 2: That's one of the best runs in college basketball history.
- 11:08Speaker 2: For sure, wish world was crazy the first one or
- 11:11Speaker 2: the second one?
- 11:12Speaker 4: Uh?
- 11:12Speaker 5: To me, I'll say the second one. The first one
- 11:15Speaker 5: was actually like really really good. You know, with Gordon
- 11:18Speaker 5: on the team, I think we want like twenty games
- 11:19Speaker 5: in a row. The second one snuck in like a
- 11:23Speaker 5: c stug it out how to win close Howard, and uh,
- 11:28Speaker 5: we want every game. The second one by like last
- 11:30Speaker 5: second play. Remember the foul I had against Picksburgh the
- 11:33Speaker 5: half court. It was like one of the worst fouls
- 11:35Speaker 5: and n c A facts.
- 11:38Speaker 1: I'll tell you that boy if it was drafts back then.
- 11:44Speaker 5: He was trying to cut off. After that, the Rock
- 11:50Speaker 5: fo him. So we won that game because mac mharald
- 11:54Speaker 5: got fouled. Then also B c u mm hmmm not
- 11:58Speaker 5: bc old the men you play against Bay meet them
- 12:00Speaker 5: on the last second shot. K We just kept winning
- 12:03Speaker 5: at the at the end, just squeaking by, and then
- 12:05Speaker 5: we got to the championship.
- 12:07Speaker 1: It was kind of kind of as you know, that
- 12:10Speaker 1: was tired, bro. Yeah.
- 12:11Speaker 4: Yeah, went up against a really good team though. It
- 12:14Speaker 4: was a bad game. So I went to the game.
- 12:16Speaker 1: It was. It was horrid. It was a very ugly game.
- 12:20Speaker 2: But and to be fair, like y'all were in into
- 12:23Speaker 2: one of the best runs in basketball here history, Kimba
- 12:25Speaker 2: Walker's run through the Big East National That was one
- 12:29Speaker 2: of the best runs you will ever see in basketball.
- 12:32Speaker 4: Six games and six days in the Big East and
- 12:34Speaker 4: then ruin his team in the tournament.
- 12:38Speaker 1: It was. It was special.
- 12:39Speaker 3: It was definitely old boy named white Skin, the other
- 12:44Speaker 3: one Jeremy Jeremy German. Yeah, it was special for sure.
- 12:50Speaker 3: That's the reason why y'all lost. It was cold run
- 12:54Speaker 3: the Butler though.
- 12:54Speaker 4: It was really unbelievable though, bring that little school from
- 12:58Speaker 4: Indianapolis to the nation.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Wow. But the most fine was like playing her at
- 13:05Speaker 1: Lucas All for the championship.
- 13:08Speaker 2: It's crazy that I was there that dude game. Was
- 13:11Speaker 2: one of the craziest games ever. I said, next to
- 13:14Speaker 2: all de fens, and they didn't say a fucking word
- 13:16Speaker 2: until that shot missed off the bank, off the rim.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Bro.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a really good game and I still
- 13:21Speaker 2: hate Kyle Single to this day because of that game.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Kyle Singer has never played. I mean, Coy Single was
- 13:25Speaker 2: colding get the fucked up. Obviously made to the league,
- 13:27Speaker 2: but that was the best time I've seen him playing
- 13:29Speaker 2: in his life. He hit every elbow jump shot that game.
- 13:31Speaker 6: Bro.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a great game plan.
- 13:33Speaker 2: I don't know if you like game planning like that,
- 13:36Speaker 2: but they're the only team that forced Gordon to go
- 13:38Speaker 2: right and took the heir to go right for that
- 13:40Speaker 2: last shot and missed it.
- 13:42Speaker 1: Uh No, this did a good job. But that was
- 13:44Speaker 1: a hell of a run. Hell of the game.
- 13:46Speaker 5: One thing I do remember, Coach Stevens had us going
- 13:50Speaker 5: to class championship Monday at ten am.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Wow, put out of pockety coach, Coach, talk to him, man,
- 13:58Speaker 1: that's why I lost Class Wake Force. Wouldn't that we
- 14:04Speaker 1: didn't go to class on Monday. We just had Monday.
- 14:12Speaker 1: You ain't going for show? What that was a class
- 14:14Speaker 1: that that's crazy. He went to class. Everyone did.
- 14:17Speaker 2: We had a shuttle going back and forth, and y'all
- 14:19Speaker 2: was downtown at the hotel. Y'all, we wasn't even on campus.
- 14:22Speaker 1: I remember that. That's crazy. I would definitely not went
- 14:26Speaker 1: to class. What I'm sure brand learned from that? Yeah,
- 14:30Speaker 1: learn from that. Did y'all do anything the next year?
- 14:34Speaker 1: We wasn't on what's name was in Houston? I mean,
- 14:36Speaker 1: did y'all have like study hall and stuff? Nah? Butler,
- 14:41Speaker 1: I learned. I also hope you ain't taking study out
- 14:45Speaker 1: and we recruited the right people. You don't have to
- 14:47Speaker 1: do all that stuff. Take care of your business.
- 14:49Speaker 4: Y' didn't have study hard Butler? Noah, Oh yeah, you
- 14:53Speaker 4: didn't go to school for real.
- 14:54Speaker 1: We did our work.
- 14:55Speaker 2: Man.
- 14:56Speaker 4: They didn't have to have study study hall because I
- 15:00Speaker 4: had three point two in college. I still have study hall.
- 15:02Speaker 4: You had to get enough hours that's like eight hours
- 15:05Speaker 4: a week, like mandatory. I don't care if you have
- 15:08Speaker 4: straight a's or not know that should degree?
- 15:12Speaker 3: Boy?
- 15:12Speaker 1: Now, I went to the NBA now somewhere.
- 15:19Speaker 5: Yeah, I just finished mine up. That's why I said.
- 15:23Speaker 5: It took me ten years to do it, but I
- 15:25Speaker 5: got it done. Butler back for free.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Uh n b p A.
- 15:30Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I should have did that route too, because
- 15:32Speaker 4: Butler charge, Yeah, that's what I right, that's what wait for.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Bro waiting on him. Nothing but a lot of as.
- 15:47Speaker 2: I was a student there, and I remember tuition going
- 15:49Speaker 2: up ten grand each year that we went to national championship.
- 15:53Speaker 4: That's about right. I should have did the NB. I
- 15:55Speaker 4: can still do that route. But the podcast set up school.
- 16:02Speaker 4: I don't really know, man, I add up really.
- 16:05Speaker 1: On they bolo out of pocket, Bro, y'all brought a
- 16:07Speaker 1: lot to their program.
- 16:08Speaker 4: Bro, all of y'all, No, for real, that's what that
- 16:11Speaker 4: look hoary degrees, but grant the new ADG grand line
- 16:14Speaker 4: dot line decker Man help me out.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Okay, that's my dollar.
- 16:17Speaker 2: You go the Nbrigge NBA Cup is here and you
- 16:21Speaker 2: can win big getting in on the action at Draft
- 16:23Speaker 2: Kings Sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NBA.
- 16:27Speaker 2: All thirty teen split into six groups every Tuesday and Friday,
- 16:30Speaker 2: playing for the right to advance in a single elimination
- 16:32Speaker 2: in season tourney culminated the NBA Cup Championship in Vegas.
- 16:36Speaker 1: Score big with the Draft Kings Sports Book. Every point counts.
- 16:39Speaker 2: New customers download the Draft Kings sportsbook app and use
- 16:41Speaker 2: promo code Club five to twenty. That's right, Club five
- 16:44Speaker 2: to twenty, c ol u B five two oero and
- 16:46Speaker 2: bet five dollars to get two hundred dollars in bonus
- 16:49Speaker 2: bets all the young Draft Kings. The crown is yours
- 16:54Speaker 2: tap in the right way. That is crazy, though, that
- 16:56Speaker 2: make you go pay to go back to school. When
- 16:58Speaker 2: my first summer they told me to pay away for
- 17:00Speaker 2: it was seventeen thousand. I said, yeah, I'm just not
- 17:04Speaker 2: going back to I try to transfer, to try to
- 17:14Speaker 2: transfer the They probably treated him like every Scholarge brother.
- 17:17Speaker 2: It was like some of my credits wouldn' transfer there.
- 17:21Speaker 2: It was like, you're gonna be a freshman because it
- 17:27Speaker 2: was I taking. That's crazy, but obviously, man, your college
- 17:30Speaker 2: screw was insane. Declared for the drive. How was that process?
- 17:34Speaker 2: I know you probably had to do a lot of workouts.
- 17:36Speaker 1: How was that? Yeah, Mom is completely different than man, Jeff,
- 17:40Speaker 1: Jeff going lottery? Uh, lottery. I had to work out.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Damn there, it's better than me. I had had to
- 17:47Speaker 1: work out for twenty teams and my class was like loaded.
- 17:51Speaker 1: I would say he who was your clubs.
- 17:55Speaker 4: Kyrie Clay Kawhi, Jimmy Butler, Doors, Uh yeah, Kimber Kimber, Cardiac.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the Morris Twins.
- 18:08Speaker 7: It was it was.
- 18:08Speaker 1: It was stacked Isaiah Thomas. So like we all just
- 18:15Speaker 1: had a baller out throughout the no on the come,
- 18:17Speaker 1: especially coming from Butler. Uh.
- 18:20Speaker 5: You know, we went to the National Championship, but we
- 18:22Speaker 5: didn't play a lot of proggestions and played a certain styles,
- 18:24Speaker 5: so people couldn't really see how it was.
- 18:26Speaker 2: And you know everybody was fat too. Better go in
- 18:29Speaker 2: and show my body off. That's crazy, Paul, that sounds
- 18:34Speaker 2: like a sluck. That's it did workout.
- 18:41Speaker 5: You know we had the Beggy the Beggy clothes. I
- 18:44Speaker 5: mean when Nike Elite wake Forest, well that stuff was
- 18:48Speaker 5: a little bagging.
- 18:49Speaker 4: So yeah, I was better nice school than us. I
- 18:54Speaker 4: mean it was a test Nike, so I apologize.
- 18:56Speaker 1: You remember I got the Butler jersey, the my neck
- 19:00Speaker 1: being down here, like, yes, it was nasty. That's crazy.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Y'all didn't Mike green Wood them jersey. That's not right.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all had the same I remember, yeah, I remember, Yeah,
- 19:11Speaker 2: but you get drafted about d C and you was
- 19:14Speaker 2: at DC had at a really good time.
- 19:16Speaker 1: I mean, so you had what good time for d C.
- 19:22Speaker 1: It's a good time. D has a rebuild, moget into it.
- 19:26Speaker 5: It was, it was born in a rebuild mode. My
- 19:29Speaker 5: first year lockout year started off on eighteen.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Yeah, rough, So I don't know what to say. A
- 19:40Speaker 1: good time.
- 19:40Speaker 4: You should tell people how to lock out work though,
- 19:42Speaker 4: Like as a young guy that was getting drafted, you
- 19:45Speaker 4: got no money and you get drafted the NBA and
- 19:49Speaker 4: now you got to figure it out for what three
- 19:51Speaker 4: four months?
- 19:52Speaker 1: Like four five months.
- 19:53Speaker 4: I was still here in Andy working out, trying to
- 19:56Speaker 4: my degree and got thrown at a bought you with him.
- 20:00Speaker 1: In the league. But it's real tough.
- 20:02Speaker 5: You gotta stay ready to never know what's gonna happen,
- 20:05Speaker 5: and you know he's got to be up and ready
- 20:07Speaker 5: to move in a second. But when I got there, uh,
- 20:11Speaker 5: the team was kind of wasn't the best team ever
- 20:14Speaker 5: put together.
- 20:15Speaker 1: I can say that. And I just kind of had
- 20:18Speaker 1: to figure out on fly some great vests to help me.
- 20:20Speaker 5: Together because the team I'm telling the team was like wow,
- 20:25Speaker 5: started off eighteen and then we're playing Philly.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Because lock I was very close.
- 20:29Speaker 4: I was playing Philly like every other week, three times
- 20:32Speaker 4: when they had lou Ellen, Drew Dre It was just
- 20:36Speaker 4: it wasn't a good.
- 20:36Speaker 1: Match up for us.
- 20:38Speaker 5: You have some good Knights in DC, definitely had some
- 20:41Speaker 5: good nights and it was a rookie going in. I'm
- 20:45Speaker 5: pretty sure y'all heard some stories, especially about that team.
- 20:50Speaker 5: I'll leave it at that, that team on that team,
- 20:53Speaker 5: so Roger Mason and also with Sean Lewis and Evans
- 20:59Speaker 5: you played with play with MoMA so they know took
- 21:03Speaker 5: me oneaf they win and let me and let me
- 21:04Speaker 5: understand this at how the NBA works, Like, continue to work,
- 21:08Speaker 5: be a good pro crazy thing album, second round picks too,
- 21:11Speaker 5: like we shot it. I'm gonna say Mace wasn't just grinded.
- 21:14Speaker 5: So it was there to help me out a lot
- 21:18Speaker 5: for sure.
- 21:18Speaker 2: Now, obviously did you like that team, what that Washington
- 21:22Speaker 2: team let's put together? No, yeah, y'all definitely needed a
- 21:25Speaker 2: lot of work. You know what I'm saying. But it
- 21:26Speaker 2: was just a crazy I just wanted you to bring
- 21:28Speaker 2: it up because I remember I had a crazy streak.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Man, that's a crazy way to get into the NBA.
- 21:32Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.
- 21:33Speaker 1: It was only eighteen flip songs as a coach. He
- 21:36Speaker 1: got fired. Tell a lot of young guys try and
- 21:39Speaker 1: figure it out.
- 21:40Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Now you go from the first benture to Washington, what's
- 21:43Speaker 2: the next team you want to or after that and
- 21:45Speaker 2: went to the.
- 21:45Speaker 5: Main red Claus go back to the G League drawing board.
- 21:50Speaker 5: Work it out killed there though, Yeah, crazy.
- 21:54Speaker 1: I was putting up, putting up some good numbers, planning
- 21:56Speaker 1: on Doc River system. That's when he was in Boston.
- 22:00Speaker 5: So I was basically putting up the same numbers like
- 22:02Speaker 5: Rondo was on like twenty fifteen and eighteen. I was
- 22:06Speaker 5: more of a score so I was in like thirty
- 22:07Speaker 5: ten and twelve. I mean I like, I actually did
- 22:12Speaker 5: two ten days with Philly. Then I ended up going
- 22:15Speaker 5: to Atlanta nigging up with this guy. Yes, sir, we
- 22:19Speaker 5: have for the next three four years.
- 22:21Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I remember the first day you came.
- 22:24Speaker 4: I was like, okay, like I don't fuck with him,
- 22:29Speaker 4: like you know what I mean in my head, he
- 22:30Speaker 4: coming to still like about to play, about to play,
- 22:34Speaker 4: like that's my mindset. Well, then when I got annoying,
- 22:37Speaker 4: it was like he cool as hell, and then I
- 22:40Speaker 4: wanted to do everything I could to help him. I
- 22:42Speaker 4: wanted to see him kill. And we had like a
- 22:46Speaker 4: group hate. Like we just we just bonded over some things.
- 22:54Speaker 1: It was like cool. It was me and a lot
- 22:56Speaker 1: of other people the same way. It just bonded. We
- 23:01Speaker 1: had a group eight. So it's all right, what's hold
- 23:04Speaker 1: on with that little giants run? Yeah? Okay, what do
- 23:10Speaker 1: you call it? The little giants run that you had
- 23:13Speaker 1: in the league? What you got games in a row?
- 23:17Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 23:18Speaker 1: I was on that team. It's fine.
- 23:21Speaker 4: We had a lot of fun, too much fun. I
- 23:23Speaker 4: remember when she I was like about to get paid.
- 23:25Speaker 4: We played in the playoffs against the Pacers and I
- 23:28Speaker 4: didn't get the set back in the game because Sheill.
- 23:30Speaker 1: And Michael was hooping. I was like, damn they killing.
- 23:35Speaker 4: We went back home for game six and I smoked it,
- 23:40Speaker 4: bro let you down, b y'all one Game.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Five for us home and smoked the eight one match
- 23:45Speaker 2: up we're supposed to win that ye were supposed to
- 23:47Speaker 2: win down.
- 23:48Speaker 1: I smoked that. I did job, bro, You and Michael
- 23:51Speaker 1: was clowning that game.
- 23:53Speaker 5: But that team was so special just because everyone like
- 23:56Speaker 5: got along off the court. Yeah, you know, we had
- 23:59Speaker 5: the real ones in the front playing bou Ray the
- 24:01Speaker 5: other the other ones in the back playing.
- 24:04Speaker 1: What would you at? Joe Cars? When I was a
- 24:11Speaker 1: great team to hang out with.
- 24:12Speaker 3: Everybody you went to the Atlanta I mean, you went
- 24:14Speaker 3: to Atlanta, got settled for real. That's your crib and
- 24:17Speaker 3: everything I knew he was. Once you brought the crib,
- 24:19Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, he like he loved He ain't going nowhere.
- 24:22Speaker 3: He like, I'm still there to this day, tapped in
- 24:25Speaker 3: with the city. Now, I get a lot of love there,
- 24:28Speaker 3: like a special place in my heart. Sure too, for
- 24:33Speaker 3: different reasons.
- 24:35Speaker 1: But I grew up there.
- 24:36Speaker 4: I went from a little kids man in Atlanta, so
- 24:40Speaker 4: that's all. It got a special place for me. I
- 24:42Speaker 4: made some long lasting friendships there.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Ship. Do you think that team could have won the
- 24:47Speaker 1: championship if Lebron wasn't in the East? Hell?
- 24:50Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, if Lebron w wasn't playing, Yeah, yeah, could
- 24:53Speaker 2: have won the ship. Yeah we beat everybody else. Who
- 24:56Speaker 2: would y'all facing the finals Golden State, Now.
- 25:00Speaker 1: They wouldn't like that. They were like that. They weren't
- 25:06Speaker 1: like that yet. Yeah, they wasn't yet.
- 25:10Speaker 4: That's the first year they wanted y'all beating that team
- 25:14Speaker 4: that wouldn't know that what they wouldn't them yet they.
- 25:16Speaker 1: Were still like I never wanted the year they beat
- 25:18Speaker 1: us though they love to go on state. Remember everybody
- 25:21Speaker 1: was hurt. Bron Kyrie hurt his knee, all right, So
- 25:24Speaker 1: what makes you think y'all was going? What do you
- 25:26Speaker 1: need to say that everybody was hurt when they fourteen
- 25:29Speaker 1: the full roster? I know, but that's Lebron and them,
- 25:32Speaker 1: not y'all. What what what? Let's mash it up. I
- 25:38Speaker 1: got fur a star. That's have fun. That's what we're
- 25:40Speaker 1: here for. They just wasn't they wasn't they wasn't them yet?
- 25:44Speaker 3: Like Jeff definitely supposed to be an All Star, Al
- 25:48Speaker 3: for sure, supposed to be an All Star.
- 25:50Speaker 1: H p M for sure. Now who else who you likeing? Now?
- 25:55Speaker 1: Freaky Cow? I ain't mad at it. He went on
- 25:59Speaker 1: the run.
- 26:00Speaker 3: You helped them? Just say you the real VP of
- 26:02Speaker 3: the team. I didn't play in the NBA Take him
- 26:05Speaker 3: twenty six All Star Jersey round with it, bro?
- 26:08Speaker 1: I get it. But when we get to the.
- 26:10Speaker 3: Finals for one, bro, that's nasty work, right, Sean List
- 26:20Speaker 3: and Harrison Barnes Andrea.
- 26:25Speaker 1: Was he Yeah? He was. He was yeah, Draymond Green Christmas. Yeah,
- 26:31Speaker 1: but ship we played them, We went one even. We
- 26:34Speaker 1: beat them in a lot of they beat us, and say.
- 26:36Speaker 3: Fair enough, bro, y'all beat a lot of teams in
- 26:38Speaker 3: great memory. Man, y'all want sixty one game?
- 26:43Speaker 1: I remember getting reports he definitely had like thirty five.
- 26:51Speaker 1: But we beat them.
- 26:53Speaker 2: Y'all had a y'all had a good team, bro, y'all,
- 26:55Speaker 2: y'all really did, Bro. I just matched up because we
- 26:58Speaker 2: switched one through five.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Do you think we'll get to the finals if Lebron
- 27:02Speaker 1: wasn't playing. I mean, look, that run was magical, bro,
- 27:06Speaker 1: that German run getting there for sure. The thing about
- 27:11Speaker 1: Lebron he we just didn't have nobody to match up
- 27:13Speaker 1: with Lebron. No facts.
- 27:15Speaker 4: So Golden State, this was before they found all their superpowers,
- 27:19Speaker 4: like only they got there.
- 27:21Speaker 1: They did it as all only only the whole level.
- 27:25Speaker 4: Yeah, Steph had superpowers, Clay was coming into this, everybody
- 27:29Speaker 4: else was still they wouldn't all the way there yet,
- 27:32Speaker 4: we ain't. We matched up cool with him because we
- 27:34Speaker 4: could switch one through five with them. We couldn't switch
- 27:36Speaker 4: Lebron like I can't switch on bron Man it's sucking Christmas.
- 27:41Speaker 3: I just think Sean Liveson would have been an X Factor.
- 27:43Speaker 1: Bro were smooth straight, you couldn't post that big. This
- 27:51Speaker 1: is six seven. We shooting right over living with the ring.
- 27:54Speaker 1: He got knock the man too.
- 27:55Speaker 4: Yeah, we shooting three. We started three point ship, oh ship,
- 28:01Speaker 4: the five man shooting threes.
- 28:02Speaker 1: That was us that was on the on the pocket and.
- 28:07Speaker 3: Him and Pero started that three point shooting Green Bro
- 28:11Speaker 3: shout out to that Lanta Hawks bros.
- 28:13Speaker 1: At fourteen, out to my god, man, give it a lot.
- 28:18Speaker 5: That was That was actually a really fun time because
- 28:20Speaker 5: also music was just popping crazy at that time.
- 28:23Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to ask y'all.
- 28:25Speaker 2: I mean that Roe was crazy, but at the same
- 28:26Speaker 2: time where y'all was in Atlanta, like the new wave
- 28:29Speaker 2: of Atlanta artists is going crazy. You got a future
- 28:31Speaker 2: reaching his pinnacle, You got migos coming out like y'all
- 28:34Speaker 2: got to see them early on.
- 28:35Speaker 1: How was that?
- 28:36Speaker 2: Because I imagine we already know how lantand what off
- 28:39Speaker 2: the course probably way better than the corner at that time,
- 28:41Speaker 2: Perreo because the Bakero Fresh everybody was getting the run
- 28:44Speaker 2: at the time.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Shild was really outside. I was outside. I'm on ten
- 28:51Speaker 1: days and not guarantee I was outside. Uh, crazy thing
- 29:01Speaker 1: is I'm real good friends with two chains.
- 29:03Speaker 5: Okay, dude does why so the first day Budd got
- 29:07Speaker 5: the job, Me and changes in the in the prey
- 29:10Speaker 5: in the back working out.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Bud come in.
- 29:13Speaker 5: He don't know anything about like the hip hop scene,
- 29:15Speaker 5: musical change, hit her down like I'm still on my
- 29:18Speaker 5: ten day, not guaranteeing.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Like hey man, you gotta do this.
- 29:20Speaker 2: Cut all these people up, and like it's like my
- 29:23Speaker 2: home He thinks it's like my homeboy telling it.
- 29:25Speaker 1: It's like, who is this show?
- 29:27Speaker 3: Like you to be out of here?
- 29:31Speaker 1: Who's just telling me all of this? Good chancey, bro,
- 29:35Speaker 1: you got you got Ship. You don't know who you
- 29:37Speaker 1: are my stuff.
- 29:39Speaker 6: I know you're on the college park sky trying to
- 29:42Speaker 6: right now, and I'm just it's funny because I can imagine,
- 29:54Speaker 6: but it's like not giving it to you.
- 29:56Speaker 1: You probably had some marker right here. Ship.
- 30:00Speaker 2: Let him cut people Rookie and Rookie did I want
- 30:03Speaker 2: to that? I wish I could see his face though, imagine,
- 30:07Speaker 2: come down. You don't know who his due is and
- 30:09Speaker 2: you know we just walk in. We're just hanging out
- 30:11Speaker 2: like Shawn's homeboy. Serious but funny as hell.
- 30:18Speaker 1: He probably had that. Definitely have that. What the fuck
- 30:24Speaker 1: who he just got the funk out of here, But
- 30:29Speaker 1: sure had sure was that birthday Bass and Ship. He
- 30:32Speaker 1: wasn't all the way inside.
- 30:33Speaker 4: When I say inside, I mean like sure when he
- 30:36Speaker 4: when he got established in Atlanta. You know he had
- 30:38Speaker 4: a family, so he wouldn't go out with us, like
- 30:41Speaker 4: I'm sure you're coming out.
- 30:42Speaker 5: He's like, nah, player, i'd be. I'd be going back
- 30:46Speaker 5: to the arena every time I go back to the arena.
- 30:50Speaker 5: We kind of live in the same spot, same area.
- 30:53Speaker 1: Me driving, I keep I ain't gonna say.
- 31:07Speaker 7: That's a wow boy, it's crazy.
- 31:19Speaker 1: After Chicken Wings, bro.
- 31:25Speaker 5: You know, like sometimes you don't play a lot, like
- 31:27Speaker 5: in the league, you go upstairs and work out game.
- 31:29Speaker 4: So I'll go up and work out in He didn't play.
- 31:33Speaker 4: Thirty minutes he out, He's gone. I'm traving just.
- 31:36Speaker 1: At the light the Chicken Wings on the street. Fun.
- 31:46Speaker 2: That's funny, hell man, that was my spot though I
- 31:51Speaker 2: don't see what I'm saying. Atlanta was very well for
- 31:52Speaker 2: you established yourself as a as a player in this league.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Then you get a chance to go to you know
- 31:57Speaker 2: what I'm saying, a different situation to get some more minutes.
- 31:59Speaker 1: How was that going to Utah for you? Career wise?
- 32:01Speaker 1: It was great. I was just having a relationship with Claim.
- 32:04Speaker 5: He was part of the staff in Atlanta, so he
- 32:07Speaker 5: kind of uh knew my skill sets and know what
- 32:10Speaker 5: I was capable of doing. Then it's also just have
- 32:12Speaker 5: an opportunity to go in just like play right away
- 32:15Speaker 5: and start. There's been a great team in Atlanta. You
- 32:18Speaker 5: always have a lot of good players. You know Jeff's
- 32:20Speaker 5: a good player. Then say that then the shoulder at
- 32:22Speaker 5: the time. So it's kind of tough to get minutes
- 32:25Speaker 5: consistently and it's got to be a pro be ready.
- 32:29Speaker 5: But also want to appreciate the lining. But allowing me
- 32:31Speaker 5: to go could be selfish, know just have me sitting
- 32:35Speaker 5: there because you just never know somebody can get hurt
- 32:36Speaker 5: or any situation.
- 32:37Speaker 1: But they allowed me to move on and develop my game.
- 32:41Speaker 2: That's far and it's not too you don't see, it's
- 32:44Speaker 2: not too common to sy organizations do right by people,
- 32:47Speaker 2: and when they do sometimes it may they may be
- 32:49Speaker 2: handpicking with that, but for them to show you love
- 32:51Speaker 2: like that to put your situation, you can actually play
- 32:53Speaker 2: as far. Like you said, a first all was going
- 32:55Speaker 2: back at each other. You know what I'm saying was
- 32:56Speaker 2: he got the Utah the first game.
- 32:59Speaker 4: I was so happy for w Man to see him
- 33:00Speaker 4: get a chance to be the starter do his thing.
- 33:04Speaker 4: Oh he had a good game against us, but I
- 33:07Speaker 4: think we probably won though we won.
- 33:09Speaker 1: Uh. I can't remember, man, when you kill you your
- 33:14Speaker 1: you want to little something. I don't hold you. But
- 33:18Speaker 1: I killed you all though, So he probably had a
- 33:20Speaker 1: good game. I can't remember. If I get eight, I'm killing.
- 33:23Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we want killing transition. I can't start. On
- 33:32Speaker 1: the first day of getting there, we played all like
- 33:35Speaker 1: right away, right you did? Oh yeah you did get
- 33:37Speaker 1: traded and play right away. Yeah you're right you did.
- 33:39Speaker 1: It was a crazy part. I was in practice. I
- 33:41Speaker 1: couldn't get no wraps to day the day before. You
- 33:44Speaker 1: know that. Don't like practice, get me not Let me listen, kids,
- 33:50Speaker 1: I love practice, but but that was a good way. Jeff.
- 33:55Speaker 1: Let me let me get out there and like play. Yeah,
- 33:59Speaker 1: like work and work on the kill them give me
- 34:04Speaker 1: bro ain't let me out there. M damn it. What's
- 34:10Speaker 1: your head?
- 34:13Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 34:13Speaker 1: He came off the bench. It was starting and man
- 34:17Speaker 1: asking all the questions, was the foreigner, white skinned buddy Dante?
- 34:22Speaker 1: Oh have been Dante? Yeah, thirty one minutes the whole game. Sure,
- 34:30Speaker 1: he let me. I got was my was my shooting percent?
- 34:32Speaker 1: He had to be three for sixteen. Damn.
- 34:35Speaker 2: I gave myself a chance. I go ahead, give myself
- 34:42Speaker 2: a chance. Assists Nah, Yeah, Rudy damn.
- 34:51Speaker 1: When he was weak too.
- 34:53Speaker 2: Yeah, while you was in Utah, you probably one of
- 34:58Speaker 2: the most important games about bsketball history, man, Kobe's final game.
- 35:02Speaker 2: How was that atmosphere building up to that and how
- 35:05Speaker 2: was it to play in that game? Because everybody in
- 35:06Speaker 2: the world wanted y'all to lose that game, and y'all
- 35:09Speaker 2: was feel like, I know y'all was right out of
- 35:10Speaker 2: playoff implications, but y'a wouldn't try to let Kobe in.
- 35:12Speaker 1: That game either.
- 35:13Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like we had to wait till like
- 35:15Speaker 5: half time to see it was gonna make the playoffs.
- 35:18Speaker 5: We were we were trying to win a lot of people,
- 35:19Speaker 5: get it, Get it confused that like we just letting
- 35:22Speaker 5: Kobe do all that. Like Kobe also shot fifty times,
- 35:25Speaker 5: not hard to shoot fifty shots.
- 35:27Speaker 1: In one basketball game. That's nuts for it's anybody I
- 35:29Speaker 1: know who would do it. But uh, it was.
- 35:33Speaker 5: Atmosphere was crazy, like the President was there, like we
- 35:35Speaker 5: come in, you know, just go down the tunnel state
- 35:38Speaker 5: like everybody out there with a K forty seven secret service.
- 35:42Speaker 1: It was, it was, it was. It was amazing.
- 35:44Speaker 5: Kanye Jay, all these people sitting like second row for
- 35:48Speaker 5: if you go back and watch the take had zero,
- 35:51Speaker 5: that's sixty.
- 35:52Speaker 1: We get scored on it though, like pull it up,
- 35:55Speaker 1: you you living? That's the first I don't get I
- 35:59Speaker 1: ain't get it. Part of that ship.
- 36:01Speaker 5: No, that's one of my favorite players. Coach is my
- 36:03Speaker 5: favorite playss. I didn't get any of that. You switch
- 36:06Speaker 5: on him, but Louise, they're gonna pull it out. But
- 36:12Speaker 5: the way is letting Julius ran to set them screens outrageous.
- 36:17Speaker 1: I had to get Kobe open, bro, but Kobe it was.
- 36:20Speaker 1: It was.
- 36:21Speaker 5: It was just different, like no matter what he did,
- 36:23Speaker 5: everybody cry like, oh who this turn is? This it's
- 36:26Speaker 5: the word game kind of playing. It was the last
- 36:30Speaker 5: what he ended with sixty two? Yeah on fifty shots.
- 36:36Speaker 5: That's the way to go out, bull, I swear for sure,
- 36:40Speaker 5: fifty shots.
- 36:41Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see nobody else shooting in my life.
- 36:48Speaker 4: My last game, Yeah, I didn't touch the floor one
- 36:52Speaker 4: about you, I say the fifty piece though, you know
- 36:56Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
- 36:57Speaker 5: Christ Like pre game Lou was on the team, it
- 36:59Speaker 5: was like he about to shoot fifty times. I'm like,
- 37:01Speaker 5: he ain't bot shooting fifty shots. Came out there and
- 37:04Speaker 5: did it.
- 37:04Speaker 1: Like every time.
- 37:05Speaker 5: Somebody wide open just swinging at him. Let him go
- 37:08Speaker 5: and the crazy party. He started off super super slow
- 37:11Speaker 5: and then like start making like eight baskets in the
- 37:13Speaker 5: road and the whole stadium, just this room for.
- 37:16Speaker 2: You found him, if you found him, like take the
- 37:18Speaker 2: side out of everybody, boing boom.
- 37:21Speaker 1: So it was. It's a little different. It had to
- 37:23Speaker 1: be an amazing atmosphere. Though. I couldn't imagine playing in
- 37:26Speaker 1: the game. But I would have loved to have been
- 37:28Speaker 1: in that game. What were you doing?
- 37:30Speaker 4: I would have been trying to go at him. Yeah,
- 37:32Speaker 4: I would have been trying to guard him. I would
- 37:34Speaker 4: have been extra as hell your name too. I would
- 37:39Speaker 4: have been talking ship. That wouldn't have worked. Man was
- 37:42Speaker 4: gonna work, but he was gonna get them points whatever.
- 37:45Speaker 4: But but it was that was that was special. I
- 37:48Speaker 4: would have been dealing bro It's like I said, my
- 37:50Speaker 4: favorite player all time, I would have been dealing Brooks.
- 37:54Speaker 1: I've been like, Kobe's not that good. Wow.
- 37:58Speaker 3: He wanted people to do that though he didn't want
- 38:00Speaker 3: people to you know, yeah, let him do nothing, go
- 38:03Speaker 3: crazy like it's a regular.
- 38:04Speaker 1: He worked for it. That wasn't not easy.
- 38:06Speaker 5: I know what I'm saying, Like talk talk ship, Like
- 38:10Speaker 5: you got the Kobe from that day? Yeah, I got
- 38:12Speaker 5: mama day. I actually got him. He was able to
- 38:15Speaker 5: sign him for me.
- 38:16Speaker 1: He signed him. Yeah, damn I should have played. I
- 38:21Speaker 1: should have played him, but I didn't. I got him.
- 38:23Speaker 4: The only thing I got signed from Kobe was he
- 38:27Speaker 4: signed a card. I always did it work Kobe's all time.
- 38:31Speaker 4: Whatever we played him, I wouldn't wear a shoot. But
- 38:34Speaker 4: I can't be on the court looking like that. Yeah,
- 38:37Speaker 4: what about you. I ain't hooping Kobe to the end?
- 38:40Speaker 4: DA data, So I ain't hooping to Kobe's to the end. Really,
- 38:44Speaker 4: I was hooping in Jordan, Tans. I was trying to
- 38:47Speaker 4: get signed by Tiam Jordan. It ain't work, Damn, Joe.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Joe didn't put in the cowboy Joe ain't with me
- 38:55Speaker 1: at the club. Off the court, you got the I
- 39:01Speaker 1: go play role. That's crazy because she was almost seen
- 39:08Speaker 1: Lebron too. I used to wear Lebron's too. He won
- 39:12Speaker 1: with me. You go time with Rich. I was like, damn,
- 39:15Speaker 1: I can't do it.
- 39:16Speaker 4: It's quiet, all right, I should have m hmm, fuck
- 39:21Speaker 4: that up.
- 39:21Speaker 1: Shout with Jar, shout to the guy.
- 39:26Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we love Jr. So obviously, man, you know
- 39:32Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Head this time in the leg transition
- 39:34Speaker 2: to different things. What you got going on right now?
- 39:36Speaker 1: Man? Right now? Do college basketball CBS sports analysts.
- 39:41Speaker 5: Yes, working in the front office with with the NBA team,
- 39:44Speaker 5: doing some pro scout and trying to find some talent.
- 39:48Speaker 1: No, hanging out with the family and kids. So got
- 39:51Speaker 1: a good life, blessed life.
- 39:53Speaker 5: The crazy part that's playing multiple teams, you know, meet
- 39:56Speaker 5: a lot of people, have a lot of connections, and
- 39:58Speaker 5: it's no pending from me now and that make this
- 40:00Speaker 5: transition of being a retired player. I was gonna ask
- 40:03Speaker 5: about that even with Jeff, Like you, guys always have
- 40:05Speaker 5: good rapport with different people, and people don't understand that
- 40:08Speaker 5: the NBA fraternity is different.
- 40:09Speaker 1: Once you're in you can really be that for life.
- 40:11Speaker 2: You've got good rapport and it's dope to see the
- 40:13Speaker 2: network and the stuff and how it works. But now
- 40:15Speaker 2: it's interesting because, like we said, Butler, definitely all you reparations,
- 40:20Speaker 2: but the nil shit going on back to back championships.
- 40:23Speaker 3: Bro.
- 40:23Speaker 1: Yeah, I had dinner with bad last night. I told him.
- 40:26Speaker 5: At the same time, with not being in Butler the
- 40:28Speaker 5: following year out transfer, for sure that.
- 40:34Speaker 1: Bag would have been retarded. I got a mial some
- 40:37Speaker 1: at one point five. It's definitely different around here. How
- 40:41Speaker 1: was it? How was that taking in?
- 40:43Speaker 2: I wonder like, as you're scouting, you know what I'm saying,
- 40:45Speaker 2: you look at different kids and stuff going on that
- 40:46Speaker 2: could potentially pros.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Is that play a factor in it? Like how they
- 40:50Speaker 1: handle the nil at all?
- 40:51Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if that's not being cocker watching,
- 40:53Speaker 2: but just like the mannerisms, right, because that does need
- 40:55Speaker 2: a different aspect of recruiting with people for me, not
- 40:59Speaker 2: not really uh, you know, at this side, you're not
- 41:01Speaker 2: really dealing with that's more like an agent of somebody
- 41:04Speaker 2: else got you. But you know, it's a lot of
- 41:06Speaker 2: people who's very good, you know, playing basketball, So a
- 41:10Speaker 2: lot of stuff like off the court that stops them
- 41:12Speaker 2: from getting to the next level, Like until they you know,
- 41:15Speaker 2: they might be hanging out with an A B hend
- 41:17Speaker 2: all the time. Yeah, being a wrong spy, wrong time,
- 41:21Speaker 2: red flag right there, right there, Now that's my guy.
- 41:25Speaker 2: But look look for stuff like that because you know,
- 41:26Speaker 2: once you're able to get somebody a lot of money,
- 41:28Speaker 2: a lot of access, you doesn't know how they're gonna act.
- 41:31Speaker 5: No basketball, Basketball is like a small piece. There's no
- 41:34Speaker 5: more about your character and no man have to be
- 41:37Speaker 5: a great teammate. It's the hardest thing the NBA. Everyone
- 41:40Speaker 5: evers twenty points at some point in time, gonna go there,
- 41:43Speaker 5: and you might have to be a cheerleader for a
- 41:45Speaker 5: few for a few games, and to see how you respond.
- 41:47Speaker 5: Are you gonna be mad at the coach or the
- 41:49Speaker 5: assistant coach of the ball boy who has nothing to
- 41:51Speaker 5: do with this, Like you're gonna take it out on
- 41:52Speaker 5: now you know it's not the kind of people that
- 41:55Speaker 5: you want to work with on a day to day basis.
- 41:57Speaker 1: Sure you like commentating, though, see yourself doing that For
- 42:01Speaker 1: a long time. I enjoyed doing it. Get to watch
- 42:05Speaker 1: a lot of basketball, stay around the game.
- 42:07Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little different doing college instead of pros
- 42:11Speaker 4: because you're.
- 42:13Speaker 1: Not trying to talk bad.
- 42:14Speaker 2: About anyone's like sign, everyone's trying to work and continue
- 42:18Speaker 2: to get better.
- 42:20Speaker 1: We'd love to call some games.
- 42:21Speaker 4: See I'll sound at the arena, but a good Just
- 42:25Speaker 4: give me all around and stay in touch with everybody. Cool, sure, man,
- 42:30Speaker 4: marsh Maddis is still one of the craziest fucking basketball
- 42:33Speaker 4: situations of all time.
- 42:35Speaker 1: Obviously with you haven't experience in that.
- 42:37Speaker 2: Do you think it's different now with the game as
- 42:39Speaker 2: far as like, like Marshmallow, because we don't even have
- 42:42Speaker 2: too many college players we get excited about it anymore.
- 42:44Speaker 1: It's like we skip every so often.
- 42:46Speaker 2: But back in y'all's days, it was every year every team,
- 42:49Speaker 2: like not every team, but you have marquee teams and
- 42:51Speaker 2: matchups every single year. Yeah, it's like totally different now.
- 42:55Speaker 2: How do you stay in tech with them? Like, do
- 42:56Speaker 2: you even get excited for that type of stuff? I
- 42:58Speaker 2: know obviously what you're working you liked in with it,
- 43:00Speaker 2: but is it even the same atmosphere?
- 43:02Speaker 1: Like being removed from.
- 43:03Speaker 5: It when you when you're able to go to the game,
- 43:05Speaker 5: you're still able to feel it because it's like say
- 43:08Speaker 5: here Indiana, like I you Purdue.
- 43:10Speaker 1: No matter who's playing, you can just go to gaming
- 43:12Speaker 1: and kind of feel it, feel the energy. Yeah, it's
- 43:15Speaker 1: hard to keep up with it. With the transfer portal,
- 43:17Speaker 1: people just been able to go.
- 43:18Speaker 5: It makes sense school for school, so you know, sometimes
- 43:20Speaker 5: I get lost on it with the players transferring.
- 43:24Speaker 1: Then also the sixth.
- 43:25Speaker 2: Year kind of through everything off that cover year. Yeah,
- 43:28Speaker 2: so once all of that stuff settled in, people can
- 43:30Speaker 2: start no turning back in with their favorite players.
- 43:33Speaker 5: And I hope we get some loalty coming in soon
- 43:36Speaker 5: with all this, but I don't see how long how
- 43:38Speaker 5: much longer n IL stuff can work.
- 43:40Speaker 1: How do you feel about Butler moving to the Big East.
- 43:43Speaker 5: I think it's a great move. You have some good
- 43:46Speaker 5: years well Coastal Valves coach in the top ten in
- 43:49Speaker 5: the country. All that right now from downtime, but can
- 43:54Speaker 5: says downtime when they got the two national champs over
- 43:57Speaker 5: the past few years back to back. Knowing the conference
- 44:01Speaker 5: to conference, I think it's one of the best conference,
- 44:03Speaker 5: better than the a c C.
- 44:04Speaker 1: You ask me, CAPTI each a c C. I don't know.
- 44:12Speaker 2: You like who you liking the a c C and
- 44:14Speaker 2: buying some CC. But if you're going to Ukon against
- 44:17Speaker 2: the board that you didn't gotta go Yuka. But like consistently,
- 44:20Speaker 2: like Mark Quat, Billanova been good.
- 44:25Speaker 1: They've been crazy talking about like twenty win teams for sure.
- 44:31Speaker 1: Yeah they got an overall better conference. Yeah they gotta
- 44:35Speaker 1: right now. But in the tournament I fear a couple
- 44:37Speaker 1: of ACC teams a little bit more. I like Duke.
- 44:40Speaker 4: I like Carolina all right, I like wait Flo way yeah,
- 44:45Speaker 4: I like Florida State. I like Miami a lot.
- 44:51Speaker 3: Quiet good Miami good shout okay, but they're not better.
- 44:58Speaker 1: But like Miami was good because like you're talking about
- 45:00Speaker 1: your pack, get the transfer and.
- 45:03Speaker 2: You need that to be like at that at that
- 45:05Speaker 2: high level in c State, I meant to see, how
- 45:08Speaker 2: do it's gonna be this ship that's having all those
- 45:10Speaker 2: freshmen coming in playing.
- 45:11Speaker 1: Oh they're gonna I think they're gonna smack smack ship.
- 45:15Speaker 1: So Cooper is the one.
- 45:17Speaker 2: He's the one they let him cook the right, He's
- 45:20Speaker 2: the one BROAI.
- 45:21Speaker 1: That is pretty good too. No, they got a whip
- 45:25Speaker 1: to they not. He ain't a woman man by any means.
- 45:26Speaker 1: They got a whip.
- 45:27Speaker 2: That's why I didn't understand why he was talking about
- 45:29Speaker 2: them transfer. Everybody who transferred was with I'm like, that's crazy, bro.
- 45:33Speaker 3: He the best player in college basketball Cooper. Yeah, nah,
- 45:38Speaker 3: I gotta see right now. Even though even though it's
- 45:40Speaker 3: people are aging there right now, he's still all them.
- 45:43Speaker 5: He's the best prospects. Prospect playing college basketball is like different.
- 45:48Speaker 5: Like we see Oscar she Way twenty and twenty and
- 45:52Speaker 5: then go to the next step.
- 45:53Speaker 4: He played for the Pacers. It's kind of hard for
- 45:55Speaker 4: him to get out there and contribute and play at.
- 45:57Speaker 1: A high level.
- 45:58Speaker 3: But Cooper, Cooper Flag's path is different. Yeah, he's gonna
- 46:01Speaker 3: be the best prot It's definitely different. But what I'm
- 46:04Speaker 3: saying like it's different. But also also she was the
- 46:07Speaker 3: player of the year. Like I don't think Cooper gonna
- 46:09Speaker 3: get Player of the year.
- 46:10Speaker 1: Yeah, noah, he probably won't get the acts. He's gonna
- 46:13Speaker 1: get the more paper, gonna average like nine. Hell no,
- 46:20Speaker 1: you know how I say between like nine and fourteen.
- 46:24Speaker 1: It's not a big guy. He's not.
- 46:26Speaker 2: It's not gonna be twenty twenty, It'll be thirteen fourteen,
- 46:30Speaker 2: And he going in there with a whole bunch of
- 46:31Speaker 2: other fresh going over.
- 46:32Speaker 1: With a whip.
- 46:33Speaker 4: They all trying to get I don't think they about
- 46:35Speaker 4: the number two pick? Are you what I knowing about
- 46:39Speaker 4: to be too?
- 46:39Speaker 3: We had this culip it's okay Cooper player of the year, dude,
- 46:44Speaker 3: national chair thinking.
- 46:45Speaker 4: About old dude? Was that Carolina what's his name? Badcock back?
- 46:50Speaker 1: For sure? Other players out they they're not going they're.
- 46:55Speaker 5: Twenty four And for him on boy from from Kansas
- 47:00Speaker 5: actually westling Fhace.
- 47:01Speaker 1: You see play the here the kid from Notre Dame,
- 47:04Speaker 1: the guard. Oh he nice, market.
- 47:07Speaker 3: Shouts Indiana great great basketball player.
- 47:11Speaker 1: Yeah cold, I'm cool. The great White Hope is on
- 47:19Speaker 1: the way. Man. I gotta ask man what I'm saying
- 47:22Speaker 1: off the court?
- 47:23Speaker 2: I know how y'all went. How was like y'all kicking
- 47:26Speaker 2: it off the court? Y'all talk about them tequila and sprites. Man,
- 47:28Speaker 2: how y'all get like it in like that?
- 47:30Speaker 1: I think it was more just like us loving the game.
- 47:33Speaker 4: Like we had talk about basketball off the court, so
- 47:35Speaker 4: we'd be like, man, how can we get better looking
- 47:38Speaker 4: at stats?
- 47:38Speaker 1: Watching games like this is all I gotta do to that.
- 47:42Speaker 4: Minchell was really by the numbers. I can average twelve
- 47:46Speaker 4: points the game, right, here, That'll give me six million years.
- 47:49Speaker 4: Like we was like that, Like we were just trying
- 47:51Speaker 4: to map the game out, but we enjoyed playing, so
- 47:54Speaker 4: we had talk about the game.
- 47:57Speaker 1: Then we just kick it.
- 47:58Speaker 2: Bro.
- 47:58Speaker 1: He was just cool.
- 47:59Speaker 4: We talk about We still talk about playing Madden and
- 48:01Speaker 4: stuff like that. N C Double A Football just came out.
- 48:04Speaker 4: He never was really that good at video games, but
- 48:07Speaker 4: he always wanted to play.
- 48:08Speaker 1: I'm top top of the country. He hate Shell the game.
- 48:17Speaker 5: I'm trying to tell you. Also, I think I was
- 48:21Speaker 5: forced to go to team dinner all the time. Not
- 48:24Speaker 5: every every road game. We go to team dinner.
- 48:27Speaker 1: We're sitting there for three or four hours, just sitting
- 48:28Speaker 1: there and hanging out and talking. No.
- 48:31Speaker 5: Obviously having Hendrick is a connection. He was able to
- 48:34Speaker 5: relate on a lot of different different things. Do people
- 48:38Speaker 5: know anything about your your wrestling fetish?
- 48:40Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody know. I love fall fetish is crazy.
- 48:44Speaker 2: Everybody know I love when my man watching nineteen seventy
- 48:47Speaker 2: six wrestling Man, I guess that's a finish.
- 48:58Speaker 1: Wrestling. All the whites said finished. But likes you got
- 49:10Speaker 1: him backage quiet. He was a dead cat in nineteen
- 49:17Speaker 1: seventy six. Though. On the iPad. I'm like, Bro, what
- 49:20Speaker 1: you got charging bro? Bro? Just like wrestling Bro. But
- 49:25Speaker 1: you know what something else we relate to. We cheat? Whoa, No,
- 49:30Speaker 1: we cheat because that's what we was going to so long.
- 49:35Speaker 1: We cheat cheap. No, we're both cheap, bro. We use
- 49:44Speaker 1: we don't want to spend money. Pay Bro from Chicago.
- 49:48Speaker 2: Man.
- 49:48Speaker 1: Look at him. He trying to get you caught up
- 49:50Speaker 1: or something.
- 49:51Speaker 4: I know I got always well Bro, he was confused,
- 49:55Speaker 4: not cheap, like we all use the money.
- 49:58Speaker 2: We were cheap, frugal. We got friend because that's how
- 50:02Speaker 2: we used to go to them. Team Dinners were like
- 50:04Speaker 2: here about to pay for us? Say eat again free?
- 50:07Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 50:07Speaker 1: What to kill on him? Oh ship wow? Getting out
- 50:11Speaker 1: in nineteen forty two, we can get for sure. I
- 50:13Speaker 1: used to My bill used to be fifteen hundred long.
- 50:16Speaker 1: Damn who's fit for the scene.
- 50:19Speaker 4: But damn I was racking up. I was taking stuff
- 50:24Speaker 4: back to the room. I was like, be hearing on
- 50:26Speaker 4: the valuum tab.
- 50:31Speaker 1: That's how you're doing. Yes, everywhere you go to get
- 50:35Speaker 1: to to go to to go. I know we're going
- 50:39Speaker 1: I want to buy you. Look at the bill. He
- 50:44Speaker 1: just take his bag to lead might be like Mike
- 50:49Speaker 1: left too. He Mike left them wipe the American Express,
- 50:55Speaker 1: funk out of here. Let's roll with him. Man, they
- 50:58Speaker 1: try to get people jail. Were definitely cheap. I would say,
- 51:03Speaker 1: we're cheap. We're going. We're trying to go to get
- 51:06Speaker 1: Saxon for a thousand. Who's coming? I got to fifty
- 51:14Speaker 1: straight up, like Paul, you're going.
- 51:18Speaker 2: Be like what.
- 51:20Speaker 1: You to make the most money? Man? And everything want
- 51:23Speaker 1: told the right. So they was, Bro, you're getting a
- 51:27Speaker 1: bottle bottle three hundred, I got twenty five. Met him tomorrow.
- 51:32Speaker 1: We all bring it up, bathe and bring it all little.
- 51:35Speaker 1: We were smart man trying to be that's funny man.
- 51:39Speaker 1: He's a whole that big over there. Wrap it up.
- 51:49Speaker 1: Oh man, Man, it's been real shells family at the park. Man.
- 51:53Speaker 1: We got to have back. Man, it's always a good time.
- 51:55Speaker 1: We went the building.
- 51:56Speaker 4: Man, you know what we need him for. He gotta
- 51:59Speaker 4: be our cow ed basketball host for the morning show.
- 52:03Speaker 1: Come on, man show. We got a morning show, white Broway.
- 52:06Speaker 1: We need to morning updates. Man, I'm definitely I'm definitely
- 52:11Speaker 1: with that. We need that. Man. Come to five twenty
- 52:14Speaker 1: you are you already game?
- 52:15Speaker 2: Bro?
- 52:16Speaker 1: You know you feel you got represented butler a little
- 52:19Speaker 1: bit more. No, man, I didn't graduate shout from the
- 52:28Speaker 1: flag him, he claimed a little We got to burn
- 52:31Speaker 1: on it. Not the burn man respected your car, your
- 52:40Speaker 1: love of car.
- 52:40Speaker 2: Yeah, my family off from there, so yeah we locked
- 52:42Speaker 2: in for show deeper rap. But look, man, you're not
- 52:45Speaker 2: going to see his face. Did you graduate from her?
- 52:48Speaker 1: I didn't go there. F from there.
- 52:51Speaker 2: My family like a little bit. You got one time
- 52:54Speaker 2: for the one time. Hey man, you'll see show back soon.
- 52:57Speaker 2: We set it on wax. He's gonna be our basketball,
- 52:59Speaker 2: college basketball for five to twenty in the morning, coming soon.
- 53:02Speaker 2: Lock into that. But you know what it is, be here.
- 53:04Speaker 1: Tell the people that can buy some merch at shop
- 53:06Speaker 1: club file twenty dot com.
- 53:07Speaker 2: Baby, yes, sir, you know what time it is light
- 53:09Speaker 2: show subscribe. All that good shit will be back next time.
- 53:12Speaker 2: Club file twenty
- 53:14Speaker 6: The Volume