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I Hope So - PART 1 (S5 E1 "Say Goodbye to Daisy Miller") · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all In. I Am all in with Scott Patterson,
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  Speaker 1: an I Heeart radio podcast. So we're getting into this
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  Speaker 1: I Am all In podcast. Hi, I'm Scott Patterson. That's Amy,
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  Speaker 1: That's Danielle, that's Tara. Hi kids, how you doing? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Now this is the the inaugurals show of the season
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  Speaker 1: Sinco and we're totally excited about it. Um, it's wow, Scott,
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  Speaker 1: And you know, you know what excites me so much
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  Speaker 1: is that One eleven Productions and iHeart Radio teamed up
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  Speaker 1: to bring you this episode. That's what I'm thrilled about.
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  Speaker 1: We won't forget the synopsis. Wait, Scott, before we get
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  Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, we all loved the finale. I yes,
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  Speaker 1: dare I say think this topped the finale. This is
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  Speaker 1: a horse of a different color. Yeah, it's it's different.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's it is completely a new it's a
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  Speaker 1: new animal. It's it's a brand new animal. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: it still feels like the old one. But this is new.
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  Speaker 1: This is a new these are new beginnings, this is
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  Speaker 1: a new continent, this is a this is new territory
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  Speaker 1: for me, and I think for the audience, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: what are we what kind of landscapes are we finding now? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a whole new show. It's just a whole
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  Speaker 1: new show, you know what I would venture to say.
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  Speaker 1: And you're the expert. All y'all are at the top
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  Speaker 1: of your game. You're you've now got four years under
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  Speaker 1: your belt of playing these characters. To me, every single
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  Speaker 1: character in this episode was just believable all around. Nothing
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  Speaker 1: was fake, nothing seemed It's like I'm settled into Gilmour
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  Speaker 1: world and I'm completely in it with all of you.
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  Speaker 1: That was my like vibe. Yeah, you know, listen, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's the beauty. That's one of the beauties of the show.
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  Speaker 1: And you don't always find that on every show. You're
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  Speaker 1: honor is that the acting, The quality and the level
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  Speaker 1: of the acting and the actors that you're working with
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  Speaker 1: all very high. And what was really really stood out
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  Speaker 1: to me is Melissa's performance, how excited she gets and
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  Speaker 1: how controlled she is within that excitement and the technique
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  Speaker 1: there and all she all of the physical comedy that
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  Speaker 1: she's doing is connected to reality. It's connected to her character,
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  Speaker 1: and she's so good And I had such a well
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  Speaker 1: up of welling up of pride that I acted with
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  Speaker 1: an Oscar winner and I held my own. I am
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  Speaker 1: so happy you brought that up. Yeah, so happy you
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  Speaker 1: brought that up. That scene, which we'll get to, was
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  Speaker 1: the highlight of the episode. I thought so too. I
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  Speaker 1: really thought flight. I felt like I was in and
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  Speaker 1: that was exactly how the best friend would react to
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  Speaker 1: the friend that's now the boy. Like it was so
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  Speaker 1: real and she was perfect. That's an actress that knows
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  Speaker 1: what her job is, and her job was to do
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  Speaker 1: that and to be that and the genuine excitement coming
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  Speaker 1: at her. Yes, all those colors flying around and that
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  Speaker 1: joy and the timing and she is She's extraordinary, isn't she. Yeah? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: her talent was on full display there. Yes. I so,
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  Speaker 1: I think we're saying the same thing, and that, like
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  Speaker 1: everybody is just in the group, including Jared Padilecki, who
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  Speaker 1: if you go back to season one, he was good, right,
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  Speaker 1: but like this, he's always been good. Yeah, but he's
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  Speaker 1: really good now, even in that scene at the end.
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  Speaker 1: I can't talk about it, but she's cooking. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's really good in this is that's tough stuff to watch.
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  Speaker 1: That's tough stuff to watch, and that I think it
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  Speaker 1: was the hardest sit for me. I mean great storytelling,
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  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I mean just great storytelling. But boy,
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  Speaker 1: that was hard to watch between those two. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so Daniel, let's let's synopsize since since since we need
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  Speaker 1: to synopsize, and we'll go in order. But this was
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  Speaker 1: a real treat. Yeah, this is season five, episode one,
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  Speaker 1: Say Goodbye to Daisy Miller Air date September twenty first,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and four. We pick up right where we
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  Speaker 1: left off. Rory's feelings were deemed deep in creating a
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  Speaker 1: riff between her and Lorelai. Suki learns of Lorela and
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  Speaker 1: Luke's kiss and cannot contain her excitement, while Loria assures
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  Speaker 1: Luke that the kiss was a good thing. Emily formerly
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  Speaker 1: tells Lorlai and Rory of her separation with Richard and
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  Speaker 1: invites Rory to Europe. Well to summon this up in
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  Speaker 1: let's use a coffee analogy or put it in coffee terms.
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  Speaker 1: Lu it looks thank you, thank you, thanks for sitting
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  Speaker 1: at the in your booth the counter. Yeah, well you
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  Speaker 1: do that. Let's uh, you know, it looks like it
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  Speaker 1: looks like Laurel I would like to order a second
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  Speaker 1: pot of the Loop Blend looks like looks like Rory
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  Speaker 1: Come two, three, four and five Ry has had two
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  Speaker 1: heap and cups of Jared Blend and is really conflicted
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  Speaker 1: and really likes it, and looks like Emily is about
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  Speaker 1: to change the filter. Oh, I'm going for some more
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  Speaker 1: international flavors. So the thing that's so great about this
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  Speaker 1: show too, that's like really happening now, is how generational.
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  Speaker 1: We're seeing three parallel stories with three strong, amazing women
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  Speaker 1: that are each unique even though they're essentially the same story.
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  Speaker 1: They're a woman, you know, with their significant other, figuring
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  Speaker 1: it out, doing the dance good and bad. And it's like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: those are three things that each of these women are
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  Speaker 1: going through. And I think the Luca Lorelai one is
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  Speaker 1: the cleanest one. It's the other two are just messes.
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  Speaker 1: It's got yeah, and they the entanglements of those bookend relationships.
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  Speaker 1: But the Luca Laureli thing is clean. It's pristine. It's yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's been percolating for a while, but it's
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  Speaker 1: ready to be served. It's adult. For all the flaws
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  Speaker 1: that both Luke and Lorelai debatably have, they are acting
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  Speaker 1: like adults. They are vulnerable, they are even insecure, but
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  Speaker 1: they are adults who muddled through that awkward conversation and
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  Speaker 1: came out the other side so beautifully. Thanks to Luke too,
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  Speaker 1: because I think it was Luke that really said, we
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  Speaker 1: need to explain what we're talking, you know, like it
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  Speaker 1: was so much innuendo in this dance, and Luke really
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  Speaker 1: calls it up and goes like, wait a minute, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And then that was when they got on the same page.
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  Speaker 1: They're communicating, Yes, they're communicating while still remaining guarded and
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  Speaker 1: keeping their dignity. So what did you think about the
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  Speaker 1: technique of And I get why because it's been July
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  Speaker 1: August three months plus maybe June July almost four months
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  Speaker 1: since we've ended. So they do that technique sort of
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  Speaker 1: of the back in time with a different perspective that
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  Speaker 1: I'm so curious if they shot I'm assuming they shot
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  Speaker 1: it back in June. Oh sure, I mean sorry, not
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  Speaker 1: June May, which would have been in April, March whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe not, maybe not. The redid it. It had a
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  Speaker 1: different feel to it. It had a new feel to it.
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  Speaker 1: It had a new director feel to it. It had
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  Speaker 1: a new Season five feel to it, Yeah, because I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was debating that too, but I thought, nah, that's scripted,
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't shoot that at the end of season four.
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  Speaker 1: That's especially when they were like in bed right right right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Dean lurking the Dean the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the like the other side of the house
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  Speaker 1: and listening like would they know, would they know when
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  Speaker 1: they're filming the season finale, what's going to come for
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  Speaker 1: the next season? Like do the like do does Amy
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  Speaker 1: have an idea or you know, I don't recall. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: she had those conversations with Lauren and Alexis about what
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  Speaker 1: was coming and what they're prepared for, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: think so. I didn't. It's directed by Amy, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, she seemed to craft them a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but I you know, yeah, but it was so smart.
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  Speaker 1: You showed up to the table reading and you got this,
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  Speaker 1: and you got the scripted night before and you sort
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  Speaker 1: of went through it. We watched this two weeks ago, right,
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  Speaker 1: but I still needed the refresher so like, literally I
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  Speaker 1: can only imagine the audience who saw this in June
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it's now watching in September. It just brings
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  Speaker 1: you right back to the you know, like you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that did happen? Oh my god? And then you get
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  Speaker 1: it right right right, Oh genius. But they're in bed
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  Speaker 1: together and you're seeing things you didn't see. That's the
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  Speaker 1: most important part. Did you see how Dean reacted after
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  Speaker 1: you saw them in bed before their conversation, like, and
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  Speaker 1: then you see Lorelai talk to Rory right after, Like
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  Speaker 1: you're getting all these nuggets that you didn't get in
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  Speaker 1: the finale. That's making it makes sense. Yes, for me,
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  Speaker 1: it was a ten out of ten open because not
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  Speaker 1: only was I getting the recap, which you know, a
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  Speaker 1: lazy TV show would have just been like previously and
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  Speaker 1: given me all that, but this gives me the same
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  Speaker 1: scene with a totally different perspective and giving me more
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  Speaker 1: of Dean and Rory in bed, which we can talk
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  Speaker 1: about because there's sort of an awkwardness comes where I'm like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of the back the petting. Yes, yes so, But I
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  Speaker 1: think it was important to film that scene with Dean
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  Speaker 1: list from Dean's point of view right right, to let
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  Speaker 1: the audience know that, hey, you know, this season, or
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  Speaker 1: least this batch of episodes, this is important stuff for
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  Speaker 1: Dean and role. Yeah wait, Scott, that is such a
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  Speaker 1: good point And I didn't really realize that until you
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  Speaker 1: just said it. It was from Dean's point of view,
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  Speaker 1: like we didn't and he was such a the bad
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  Speaker 1: guy you know in the finale, and now you're seeing
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  Speaker 1: it from his point of view. Whoa, I just got
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  Speaker 1: a little mindbone with that like that. Yeah, it's like
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  Speaker 1: Dean has graduated now to being a series regular and
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  Speaker 1: main character that we're going to cover. We need to
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  Speaker 1: cover his angles, we need to cover view So they
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  Speaker 1: did that, so he's really in the story now. He
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  Speaker 1: says I love you, Oh yeah, I love you Corey,
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  Speaker 1: and she says I love you too. And the thing
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  Speaker 1: that I also love that so Gilmoury and genius. Just
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  Speaker 1: as it's sappy mcsappie and almost too sappy for me,
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  Speaker 1: this you know, perfect moment, I'm happy? Are you happy?
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  Speaker 1: And then she busts out the candy man to give
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  Speaker 1: me instead of that, and it just gave me that
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  Speaker 1: ah ha ha ha, you know, like it was like
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  Speaker 1: it just was that moment you needed in this sort
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  Speaker 1: of lovey situation that also is you're like so tense
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  Speaker 1: about it. Because you're like, I know that Oh go ahead, no,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, I know that song is going to come
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  Speaker 1: back to haunt us though, I'm like, that song is
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  Speaker 1: gonna come back? Do you know? Do you know what
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  Speaker 1: the significance is is it was the first movie they
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  Speaker 1: watched together when they had a date at Rory's house
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  Speaker 1: with Laura. Really, that was the film they want, So
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, what was the film? Then you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: say candy Man, the horror film. Oh no, it's a
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  Speaker 1: song from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I thought of
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  Speaker 1: the horror film too. Wait, Candynny Davis song, candy Man
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  Speaker 1: isn't Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Yeah. Sure, that's a
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  Speaker 1: good piece of pop culture knowledge right there. Hello Laura,
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm down. I'm throwing a flag down. I'll bet
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  Speaker 1: you two dollars you're run hope you candy Man isn't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it would make sense. It's kind of an
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  Speaker 1: upbeat song. You're right. Yeah, And they did watch Willy Wonka.
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  Speaker 1: That was their first ivy Oh, taraw you two dollars? Sorry? Wow?
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  Speaker 1: I had a couple of zeros thinking about Tara with
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  Speaker 1: the win there. Yeah, good pop culture. Victory really a
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  Speaker 1: big victory, Scott, he has a victory. Tara got a
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  Speaker 1: victory culture. Go w she's gonna have to she's got
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  Speaker 1: special privileges. Now when we do pop culture, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to get out of her. Well not that good
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  Speaker 1: at ball? What did you think of that? I'm happy?
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  Speaker 1: Are you happy? Moment? I'm happy? Are you happy? I
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  Speaker 1: hated the This is this right here is a textbook
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  Speaker 1: definition of a perfect moment. I'm like, it's not perfect, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I don't tell but but but it was. But it was.
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  Speaker 1: And they had to do that because they were both
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  Speaker 1: going back into the real world where that kind of
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  Speaker 1: thing ain't kosher, and they're gonna both get a you know,
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  Speaker 1: they have this moment of of real love for one another.
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  Speaker 1: The timing is so bad. He's married. It's not what
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  Speaker 1: they should be doing, and they're going to return to
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  Speaker 1: their their perspective worlds and really take heat for it,
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  Speaker 1: which they should return to their respective world, but their fantasy.
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  Speaker 1: They're living out their fantasy in the real world and
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  Speaker 1: it feels good for the moment, but boy, there are consequences. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: they both ever wanted Rory to have a full bed
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  Speaker 1: more though the twin was just the same. I would
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  Speaker 1: have been okay, childhood bedrooms, so I kind of get it,
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  Speaker 1: But it would have been better if they were in
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  Speaker 1: a Vegas penthouse with a huge rotating bed. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: got a Vegas. That brings up a good point, though
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  Speaker 1: it's got I understand it was in the heat of
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  Speaker 1: the moment, but like, who really, I just don't think
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  Speaker 1: Rory's doing that in her childhood bedroom, Like, why didn't
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  Speaker 1: they just find a room at the end. I know
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  Speaker 1: there wasn't one, but well they they yaked it out
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  Speaker 1: and in Miss Patties on an now Gilbert record, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, but well I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's like a pretty normal thing to do,
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  Speaker 1: but I think didn't. Don't you think Rory, for her
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  Speaker 1: first time, wanted to feel super safe in her Yeah childhood? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I also followed. He also followed her. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: she had planned that, like not in that moment. Somebody asked,
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  Speaker 1: um this on Instagram. What was he doing there? Hm,
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  Speaker 1: she ran home to get the CDs. What was he
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  Speaker 1: doing there? Or did he just go over to get
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  Speaker 1: to her? I think he just went over to get
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  Speaker 1: the almost kiss. Probably the scribe, yeah, but I think
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  Speaker 1: if it was my guest, he probably was like, this
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  Speaker 1: is a moment. I have a loan with her, not
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  Speaker 1: for that reason, but right to talk to her. You know,
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  Speaker 1: she her lie to lore lies. He came to borrow something.
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  Speaker 1: But like, we don't ever really learn why was he
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  Speaker 1: there other than he must have just followed her, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think we know well.
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  Speaker 1: And then we do see the mystery door on the deck, right,
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  Speaker 1: didn't we learn that that door wasn't actually always there,
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  Speaker 1: that they had to create it for those scenes that
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  Speaker 1: are shot on the deck. It was, it was there,
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  Speaker 1: but it wasn't dressed as it wasn't dressed. Okay, okay, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so then they dress it so they can shoot those scenes.
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  Speaker 1: There's only a minor amount of scenes that take place
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  Speaker 1: on that deck. Yeah, that was on a sound stage.
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  Speaker 1: So that was on a sound stitch the head to
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  Speaker 1: do things. And it still is painful for me. When
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay answers, it's like, oh, well is it I mean
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  Speaker 1: we're jumping, but it's it's not really, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You never got to know, Lindsay at all. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't. They didn't show Lindsay in a very good light.
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  Speaker 1: And then and then finally, now now we get to
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  Speaker 1: see her in her element and we smpathies, start sympathizing
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  Speaker 1: with her. Yeah. Yes, and now I'm feeling guilty. It's like, geez, man,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she's pretty sweet kid, and she was so
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  Speaker 1: good and you know, there was something I told him.
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  Speaker 1: She was there getting CDs. Okay, morel I told Jan
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  Speaker 1: just showed up. Lorel I told him. That's so that
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  Speaker 1: was the issues, all right. So they almost had they
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  Speaker 1: almost had there getting the CDs. So they almost had
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  Speaker 1: the kiss at the end. Remember, so there was this
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  Speaker 1: like sexual tension between the two of them. Then Lorelai
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  Speaker 1: sends Rory to go home to get CDs for the
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  Speaker 1: end and tells Dan that, oh, Rory went home to
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  Speaker 1: get some CDs. So then he went right. But there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like go help or find a CD. It just starts.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like they're on others the other side of
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  Speaker 1: the world and they're you know, sniffing each other out
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  Speaker 1: so powerful. They're in the same count. He's down the street.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't the in super close to the Rory and Lorelis.
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  Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, everything's pretty close proximize. Yeah. So okay,
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  Speaker 1: before we keep going, all that that we just talked
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  Speaker 1: about is before the credits roll, Like that was a
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  Speaker 1: freaking ten out of ten that it was different kind
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  Speaker 1: of opening. It was a little shocking, Yeah, to see
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  Speaker 1: our beloved Rory, you know, in her birthday suit and
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  Speaker 1: yes with Dean, it was like, this is a different show.
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  Speaker 1: Is this Gilmore girls? What's going on here? This is
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  Speaker 1: getting a little steamy. Things are getting steamy and stars hollow.
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  Speaker 1: So Scott, I want to analyze that for a minute,
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  Speaker 1: because it's not like I'm not an adult and I've
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  Speaker 1: watched like adult shows, right, but for some reason, on
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  Speaker 1: this one, whenever anyone is like other than Kirk, dude,
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  Speaker 1: naked whatever word you remember, I got weird when Loureli
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  Speaker 1: was all sexy sexy in her neglige with like digger
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  Speaker 1: and now it is that because this is such a
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  Speaker 1: wholesome show. Like literally, I think you're asking the question,
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  Speaker 1: why does why does nudity and sexuality feel so wrong
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  Speaker 1: in this show? So that's the question you're asking and
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  Speaker 1: the answer is because it does. Yeah, because this show
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  Speaker 1: is not about sexuality, and it's about growth. It's about
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  Speaker 1: time passing in a small town and a community that
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  Speaker 1: supports each other has But this is, you know, the natural.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to stay true to these characters, right, I
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  Speaker 1: mean they're going to if they don't have these experience,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot of Another thing I
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  Speaker 1: found a little jarring is that you take Laying away
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  Speaker 1: from her mom and it's a lot less entertaining. Not
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  Speaker 1: that Keiko isn't great or Lane isn't great by herself,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: but we'll get into that. You know, I'm not going
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to debate that because I have some thoughts on it
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: on Lane that are different. On that. I think I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: think that sexualizing these characters um is risky. I think
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: it's a real risk. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And even
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: like when when Suki's pregnant, it's so like did the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: stork do it? Do you know what I mean? Because
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: it's like exactly, like it's like a musical. It's like
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a Broadway musical. It's so it's like such vomiting sunshine
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: all over the place. Yeah, the show doesn't go there
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: like that. The show doesn't go there exactly. And and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: and you couldn't have hit the nail more on the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: head by brithing. We get a lot of kissing. Very
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's it's the tease, it's the building
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: up to it. It's all of that wholesomely right right, no, no, right,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: gee right. It's like when you dropped white and pretty charming. Yeah, man,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: so when you have Rory naked in bed for that,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that's the married guy that ge feels like a double
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: X on a PG show like that, doesn't it. I mean,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: let's play off the alphabet game, Scott. Yes, it suddenly
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: feels like or something. It doesn't when she when she
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: even said to Lane in that scene, you know, getting
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: yackadoodle and miss Patty's over now, i'l Gilbert record, I'm like,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: what did that just come out of her mouth? I
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: totally agree, it's so And what did you do it?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Once you got the hang of it, I wanted to
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: die and I'm like, God, damn it, I sort of
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: cringe to love it, Like I'm all I love it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: That's really that's a hell of an opening. Uh. I mean,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it's like just just we've been waiting for this, just
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: going punch us in the face about twenty times, have
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: a nice summer. Oh yeah, we've all been talking for
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: what how long? Twenty minutes and we're just to the credits.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: That's how major that opening is. So I did notice
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: there's just a few new clips in the credits, but
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the credits are basically the same as we've had. Like,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: there wasn't anything too new or in do you know
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? In the opening credits, they were
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: basically the same. I saw a little bit a couple
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: of new clips anyway. Okay, so now we go. So
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: we've got Richard and Emily just solo trapesing around the house,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: going down to the cellar, getting the European luggage, making
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a mess. They're having the big fight. She calls out
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Pendelin a lot. She's gonna go to Europe and have
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: two glasses of wine. She's dragging her Louis Hutan's around.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: She's stuck in the cellar calling it. The security comes.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: It's just a mess. The banter was so good though
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: it was. They were one of my favorite lines. I
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: actually wrote it down. I'll just say my favorite line
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: because Richard, only prostitutes have two glasses of wine at lunch,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and I'm like goes, well, then buy me a bowa
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and drive me to Reno because I'm open for business. Yeah,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: there's this so funny. There's this part where she's there
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: like arguing, and she's storming through the house and there's
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: just this like palm tree right here, and she just
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: hits the palm tree. Okay, just keeps rocking. I'm like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that was so good. I just couldn't believe when she's
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: taking her skirt off crawling out the window. They're just unhinged.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: It's so But Richard and Emily, you know who she
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: brings up again, it's pendelin Lot. It's crazy that Penelon
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: only had one episode. I agree with you, Daniel apparance
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and she's crazy. Yes, Tara is so significant one appearance.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: So I don't like when mom and dad fight. Do
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you know saying I don't like the Gilmour's fighting. It's
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: so I like to watch it. Don't get me wrong,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: It's not like I'm not enjoying this scene, but but
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I don't like it. Like they've been together thirty nine years. Like,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: do you think Richard shut the door like locked it
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: or it was just jammed? I thought he locked it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sure think he locked it because then he started
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: playing piano. Right after He's like, I can't hear anything.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: You know that Richard's moving into the pool house. We're
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: done with this, like Emily living at a hotel. But
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: you know what was so real hashtag relatable. So I'm
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: from a small town too, and like anytime the police
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: are called, it does end up in the police blotter.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's called the police blotter, but
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: it's like the my town had this and that written
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: by Edith blaz not kidding this and that, all the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: police calls, just anything that happened. There weren't very many
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: police calls in that town. One like a squirrel got
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: out of control and ate some hedges or something. I digress.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: But one time I couldn't find my mom. She was
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: just not answering the phone and not answering the phone,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm just panicking and panicking. So I you know,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: we live in a little small town. So I call
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the police and I'm like, not nine one one, Obviously
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I knew what I was doing. I called the police
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't find my mom, and they're like, oh,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: we'll go do a wellness check, probably picturing like a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: ninety year old lady. My mom is like not, she's
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: like very young. Turns out she was over at the neighbors.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: So the police are knocking on all the doors because
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: they can't find her, and the one neighbor's like, oh,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: she's down at that neighbor's and the police show up there,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and my mom has her little like cocktail and she's
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: over at the neighbors and she looks around and she's like,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I forgot my cell phone. I'm gonna be in trouble,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and goes running home and calls us and she's like,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna end up in the paper. So it was
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: just hashta relatable, like if you're in a small town,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that was real. Yeah, so I think there is a
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: lot of significance of this scene. But I'm sorry, but
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: they're talking about Hartford. They're in Hartford. That's not a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: small town. So that's different small community. Yeah, it's not Chicago.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: It's not stars Hollow, you know what I mean? True,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that would be even crazier, right, What the heck is
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: she even talking about a police blotterer in Hartford, Connecticut.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: It's it's like, does that exist? At ours is in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the Contra Costa Sun and that would be all the
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: five communities, and it has like the police calls and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: literally it could have been like, wellness, check on grandma.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: She was down at the neighbors having a cocktail. Was real. Yeah,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: harsh one, Scott, what did you think of? Nope, You're
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: no longer the woman I married. It's a tough set.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: That's a tough clap back, right. Yeah. I don't like
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: saying that. This is what I was about to say.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I think this scene just really puts Emily's thought process
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: front and center because it's like, after thirty nine years
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: of marriage, she actually doesn't know what her marriage is anymore.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: And with when after Richard said that she said, the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: woman you married was your partner, you respected her, you
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: consulted her. I'm definitely not the woman you married anymore.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And like I think she's like taking that to heart
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and she's like, you know what, I'm not that person
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: to him anymore. So you know what, I'm going to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: rebel and do my own thing. Okay, great, it's all great, Yay,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: great issues, let's talk about him. But Gilmore Girls is
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: a if Gilmore Girls were a city Emily and Richard
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: would be one of the tallest and strongest most of it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you. I mean,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you've got the you've got the Laurel Library building. You've
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: got you know, that's the biggest, and I don't understand
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: why they want to tear this down. I agree with you. There,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: We're used to everyone looking kind of messy and having
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: their you gotta have, you gotta have one safe port.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Why do I kind of like it? Like the safe port?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: To me is Luke? Like, why don't I kind of
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: like Emily and Richard? Wouldn't you look at her? Look
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: at nobody's like I like it? You know, Danielle makes
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: an interesting point, what do you think of that that
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: for her, Luke is the steady pillar that it isn't
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: actually Emily and Richard, that it's Luke. I don't know
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: where I stand on that, but I think that's interesting.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: But as an individual, as an institution in that town.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: But I'm what I'm talking about his family, and he's
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: not family. I mean, he is by way of extension,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: extended family. But but I'm talking about you know, one
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: of the pillars of the show is that house that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: relationship Richard and Emily, you know, providing stability, providing port
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: during the storm for both Rory and and and Laurela,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: no matter how triggered they are by their past with
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: so now that it's being deconstructed, it's it's a little
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: confusing for me as an audience. Yeah, and I don't
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: like it. I don't want to. I don't I do
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: not want to take this journey as an audience. I'm like, no,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to see what
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: happens in Europe. I'm hoping they get together. You know
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: what's kind to be interesting, Tara, don't you think that,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: like as this season goes, these will be really interesting
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: conversations because you and I know what happens. Yes, I think.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to give anything away, but this season
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I think is a big change and kind of where
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I my perspective of changes on a lot of the
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: characters because of the conversations and things that happen. And
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, like, my first time watching this season through,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I think because there's so much
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that happened and I taking my cans off. Scott come back,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: You're okay? You're okay, come back now, Scott, Yeah, come back.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I'm shivering in the backyard, sure, behind a tree. This
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: is my Scott. This is my most favorite season of
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the whole series by far. Yeah. I think I did
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: say that just because I think it was kind of
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: a shock in the beginning. But we're also I think
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: my first time watching it through, I wasn't sitting and
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: going one by one like I really binged it through,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you know, so it'll be different to having these conversations. Um.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: But I was also going to say that I think
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: with Emily and Richard, it's one of those situations where
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you see them as this picture perfect family, or so
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to be, so when something like this happens,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: it's like you don't want to see what happens behind
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: closed doors, Like you kind of want to keep them
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: like they've been married for thirty some years and they're perfect,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: and they're they have everything. You know, there, who wants
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: to watch perfect? I don't know, I know, but that's
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: why it's like it's like shocking. I enjoy I mean
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: not that I enjoy them fighting, but like I like
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the scenes that they were having, but it's hard to
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: be like, Oh, they're going through something just like everyone else.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, there's there's a there's a there's
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: something to be said for um, you know, depicting reality
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: in that way where it's entertaining. And of course they
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: can stay together and still fight, and still fight and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: disagree and have their but still be the bedrock and
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: still stay together. And I you know, I'm kind of
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: wondering people listening in, um, let us know how you
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: feel about this? Did it trigger you? What were you know?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Because not everybody you know, a lot of you know what,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: fifty sixty of the audience came from broken homes, right,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: And how did this trigger you? How? How did this
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: impact you? What's going on with Richard and Emily? Because
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: it doesn't sit well with me? And I think you
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: can you can have them together and fighting and working
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: out their issues, but have them working out their issues
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: because that's what the show is, right Yeah. Yeah, And
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: that's why this is so jarring because now we're getting
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: sexualized character. We're you know, it's like the real world
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: is encroaching on our little fairy tale show here, and
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I personally think it's the wrong direction to go. I'm
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: still gonna go. I'm still entertained by the episode. I
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: still think it's great, but this is a whole different
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: animal in my opinion, and I don't know if I'm
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: going to like it as much as I like season four.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I'll be interested. Well, I would love to venture that
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: you will. You will have a hard go and then
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you're going to love it. Richard is definitely showing up
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: in Europe. Don't worry. Oh what are you telling me why?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I want to know? He probably doesn't. It's just my my,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Still you are still in this He's he gonna roll
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: up on a gondola in Venice with Dean. He's gone
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: back to Europe and get our girls get on a plane.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: The same night. He's like, we're still in the same
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: night from the end of the season four, all right,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: so we'll probably have to do a three partner on
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: this one. It is still the same night. So then
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: they go back to the inn and Kirk is on
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the couch with all the rose What are those called
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: rose pickles? What? What? Sorry? Rose pickles? What are you
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: smoking up there in the northern California area? Is it
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: in the air? So Luke and Lorelei are now back
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: at the end together, right, and it's like, this is
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: where we have the scene that's just so phenomenal, right,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: because Kirk has seen them kissing, and so he says,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I went running out past Luke and Lorily kissing.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: He's like, wait, excuse me, like what like? And so
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: then you get that moment between Luke and Suki. That
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: was the best moment we've ever seen between the two
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was just a
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: joy to see that. I just I didn't remember it
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: at all. I do have great memories of working with Melissa,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and that really brought it, brought it all back. You know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: what a great scene. She's so good is the challenge
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: working with her was just keeping up with her, you know.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: And Scott, I think you were amazing in that scene too,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: And I love how like conscientious that's the right word.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Let her tell you you're so like doing the right thing.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Let her tell you, like, I don't know if she's
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: gonna want to blab this around. You know, Hey, Luke,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: this is good. But what does that say about how
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: he am skills about the town, their relationship, his friendship,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: as he protecting his protecting, he's putting her first. And
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that's what I love. He's saying, I'm not just gonna
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: blab this all around or be presumptuous or think anything.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this. I'm gonna put her first and
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: defer to her. That's what I felt he was saying.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I thought he I mean, he's not the kind of
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: guy that's gonna go skipping down the street and you
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: know singing candy Man. Hey, everybody seemed that the guy
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that's gonna go on the gram and put it on
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the grap He's gonna wake up and say this is
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the twelve hour anniversary of free food for everyone Facebook
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: status right now. I think he just wants to make
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: sure Laurela like she She's like she wants it. It
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't just a fluke, right, and he's perfectly well, well
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: we'll get into that. But he's like he's even telling
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: her on the phone call like, look, if you're not
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: into this, I'm fine with it. You know, it doesn't
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: have to be around. I know he played it off
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: so cool. He did. He actually did. He convinced me
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: that he meant it exactly, like whatever answer you give me.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And Sukey was so adorable and so supportive. And so
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: thrilled about it. And I love when she says, Luke,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: this is good and he says, I hope so right.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: He is so in but he's also been very respectful
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: of like it's just a kiss so far, like you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you know, he's it's like he's just got called up
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: to the big leagues and he still has to get
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: driven to the airport to take the flight. He's not
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: at the airport yet, you know. So yeah, that's a
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: big moment for sure. Great scene, really great scene. Washed
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: it back a couple of times. Yeah, it's a great
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: it's a great moment, perfect tone, very gilmore, you know,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: it's it's very sweet scene. It really is um and
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: right there in one scene you see why Melissa McCarthy's
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: such a big star. I agree. She was just amazing
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: in that. I mean it's like it was obvious before then,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: but it's like if you needed any more convincing, here's
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: your convincer. This is the final convincer. This this this
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: one is gifted. So check this out. So how were
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: you feeling, Scott watching this? Like kind of seeing like
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: this is big and like I just would love to know,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: like when you're watching it, like, how what were you
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: feeling other than yes, this is an amazing scene and
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Melissa's amazing, but like emotionally about these characters. Um, you know,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: the thrill for me was watching her work and just
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: knowing that I was in a scene with somebody like that, Yeah,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: who went on to do great things and be recognized
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: globally for the talent that she is, And I just
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: feel I just felt lucky. It's like, wow, this is
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: really cool. You know, Yeah, my kid's going to see this.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: You know, my grandkids are going to see this. Maybe
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the thing about her that I really like is that
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: she never doesn't appreciate Gilmore Girls, meaning like when you
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: hear her do interviews, it's always with such fondness reverence.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: She always talks about Gilmore Girls, and you see that
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: with all of them. Milo was just talking about Gilmore.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: It's like everybody on this show, they're not trying to
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, don't ask me about that. It's always like, ye,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: ask me everything about that. I think everybody misses the work,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the intensity of the work and the dialogue, and you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: it was a unique experience, it really is. I saw
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: a clip of Zogree It's an older clip, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not battled goes out on Fallon and the first thing
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  Speaker 1: he says is like, I hear your team, Jess. I
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  Speaker 1: saw that. I just thought the other day. He looks
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  Speaker 1: Zogree looks so cute when he's doing that, because you
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  Speaker 1: can tell like that's a big deal. He's going on Balon,
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  Speaker 1: he's like promoting the resident. He's all gussied up, but
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  Speaker 1: he's so leans in because Balin was like, is a
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  Speaker 1: big Gilmore fan. So I think this would be a
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  Speaker 1: good moment right now to end part one and begin
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  Speaker 1: part two of four. Yeah, let me give you a
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  Speaker 1: little tease about part first of all, Part two of
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  Speaker 1: the two. Well, I think we're gonna have to do
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  Speaker 1: a three part I say one bad word that somebody
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  Speaker 1: will bleed. So in our next episode, let's discuss what
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  Speaker 1: a Dean is. That's not that's bleep that right, that's
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  Speaker 1: good tease. Dean's horrible that now, so I don't have
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  Speaker 1: to like even text that to you. I have this,
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  Speaker 1: you'll bleep it. No bleep that And the next the
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  Speaker 1: next episode, the next scene that we're about to recap
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  Speaker 1: means we want to do this. Yes, So that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: wrap up part one. We I think we're like five
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  Speaker 1: minutes into the episode, so this will be a ten
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  Speaker 1: part of uh that's fans on the planet. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: you soon. Tune into part two, three, four, and seventeen.
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