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Women in the WORD | Three Wholehearted Rhythm Pillars Series · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: When you hear the phrase quiet time, what does it make you think?
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_00: A timeout in the corner or something you dream of but never happened?
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_00: Or that thing on your to-do list that you tend to put off because well, boring.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, getting in the word of God is challenging, ex especially if you were a mom.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why every year this community begins with the three wholehearted rhythm pillar series Word, Worship, and Write.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: Here's the deal.
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  SPEAKER_00: We need an anchor in times like these, and getting in the Word of God every day will be the one thing that will see you through no matter what happens here in 2021.
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  SPEAKER_00: God's word is the reset you need.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whether you are facing fear, discontentment, or frustration.
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  SPEAKER_00: Scripture is the catalyst for change.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, once I began making my daily reading simple, as in just one chapter a day, accessible at my favorite spot in the house, a little basket with my journal, Bible, pins, and all that sort of stuff.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I paired it with my favorite beverage.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, it was something I look forward to every single day.
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  SPEAKER_00: So not only does today's conversation with Angela Parrot, the founder of Love God Greatly, have some insights that will help you get in the word, but this month of January, each conversation will give you much needed encouragement and action steps to make the three wholehearted rhythms your personal daily pillars.
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  SPEAKER_00: Plus, Angela's gonna share her recap of 2020 and what she wants to take with her into this new year.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: Listen, I know what it's like to let another year slip by and realize that you are not where you want to be in your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: But not this year, my friend.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the year that you will see change.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope you'll listen to this conversation with our new kindred spirit, Angela Parrot, for godly perspective, a reminder of your purpose, and a simple plan you can use today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi, my name is Amy Wicks, and I love to talk about the gospel message your heart was created to hear.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a Christian Enneagram coach for Mops who loves to share resources which help you be confident that you are the best mom for your kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a mountain mama who somehow ended up on a golden sack in the Midwest.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was overwhelmed by motherhood, and I struggled to understand my true motivations.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the Lord didn't let me stay there.
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  SPEAKER_00: He helped me turn those challenging moments of motherhood into a wholehearted decision to get intentional with my faith, my marriage, and my kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: I share a broken-hearted perspective of story, but with wholehearted purpose and plan so you can live a life full of courage and abundance.
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  SPEAKER_00: Think of this podcast as your on-the-go mom pal and friend who can't help but talk about Jesus and the Enneagram.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: So get to that pile of laundry, or hit the treadmill, or load up the kids in the car for that grocery run.
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  SPEAKER_00: Get ready to be encouraged and challenged while you listen.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, those early days, three and three and a half years, I was drowning.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody save me.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we made it.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: We loved to tell about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um which I'm so excited to hear.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have this before I knock everything off my shelf here.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: I have this beautiful.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I got the like influencer kit, you know, things and do.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: I got it from Dana and I was like, this is gorgeous.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um my girls were fighting over it.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, it was like, hey, now wait a minute.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't need a new Bible, but I kind of wanted this one.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: But I I'm excited to dive in about the Bible and really your ministry because your Bible's just a little reflection of the ministry at large.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I can't wait to hear all about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But first, we love to talk about the Enneagram.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it helps us understand our story.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and I think, well, how I use it, not I think how I use it is to understand our story in light of God's big story.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: So tell us what you know about your Enneagram type and just what you've gleaned from understanding the little bit that you do understand.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I am when I've, you know, read up about it and taken the test.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am a two with a three-wing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which once I like read up, I was like, okay, yeah, that that totally sounds like me.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought it I thought it was funny, even when it said, you know, like what type of professions people did have with a two with a three-wing.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: It was like, you know, like ministry leader and you know, like all that kind of stuff.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, yeah, that that's it.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So but it was actually really good learning about it because I felt like um it almost helped me understand myself a little bit more and everything, too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, and in some ways I was like, oh, okay, because sometimes I feel like at least with myself, I can't always put to words exactly like why I feel this way or struggle this way.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so um I remember there's been a couple of times I read something and I was like, wow, yeah, like you know, that that you know, that gets, you know, you get me or that gets me.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's so nice to have something articulate what's going on in our mind and in our heart because we don't always have the language for it, but it it puts feet, it puts words into what it is that's going on in here and go, okay, that's why that's why this is hard, or this is why I love this, or this is why the communication is going this way.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's you know, it's just a great tool all the way around, but I love it.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: Well, well, and just knowing like how you feel loved and valued, and what was interesting that when I was getting ready for this podcast and I was kind of like reading up on it again and stuff, it was reminding me, like especially like there's this one section I read that was talking about like you know, like our weaknesses and stuff.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Yeah, that's right, that's true, true.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, especially like with twos, we want to be like loved and accepted and fear rejection and all that kind of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh my goodness, yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it was interesting though, looking at it again and being like, you know what?
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's good for me to know this and know this about myself because I looking back at my life and my history, those are ways I feel like I've been like, you know, like Satan's kind of like attacked me, right?
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's good for me to see that that you know I struggle in those ways because I feel like it actually helps me be stronger to combat it and be like, oh, okay, like I know, you know, I have these old wounds.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: I know that, you know, I, you know, need, you know, feel love this way and these different things have happened, but I feel like it makes me stronger the fact that I can combat it and be like, okay, I know what's going on here, you know.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, it's so good.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: I love um the book that the title is gonna escape me, but I've talked about it before.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's a Stephen Pressfield book and he talks about resistance.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: And it's an adult book.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: There's some, you know, adult words in there.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: But I, even though he's not a believer, it's one of the best books on spiritual warfare.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: And what he calls spiritual warfare is resistance.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I then therefore likened some of those enneagram weaknesses that it points out of going, okay, this is how the enemy knows that he can either distract me or derail me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I need to, because he does the same thing again and again.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: I just need to get creative.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, he's not creative.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I need to find that scripture and that truth and that and live in that awareness of going, oh, this this isn't true.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: This is just the enemy's tactic.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a weakness, but I can overcome because you know, where I am weak, God is made strong and he has come in and gives enough for us to be able to oppose the enemy and to to fight through.
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  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, I love that.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's so good.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's so helpful, right?
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's so helpful.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's so helpful.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I love what you said where, you know, like, you know, he's not a creator, right?
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like God is the creator, he's the creator, he's the creative one.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: Satan really comes in and he's just more the destroyer.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think understanding that and kind of giving a little more clarity to it helps and stuff too.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: So absolutely.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's good.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's such a fun little resource.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I want to know, okay, I got this beautiful book in the mail, and I looked up the ministry of what you're doing, love God greatly.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, come on, like preaching, preaching my tune here.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_00: So uh tell me a little bit about what led you to start this ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of times I like to lead in, okay, what was that brokenhearted moment that led to that wholehearted decision to start the ministry, to write the book, to you know, step into the fullness of what the Lord is calling you to right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we have a lot of those broken-hearted moments, and we have a lot of those stories, but um, how how did the Lord use those things um to lead you where you're at?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I love I love the story and the fact that really what led me to it was um, yeah, I have I have like I said, I have three girls.
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  SPEAKER_01: My first two are 16 months apart.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um before that, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: My first two are 14 months apart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh my kids.
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  SPEAKER_01: And before that, so um my husband, you know, uh had just finished residency.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we had like a ton of just medical school debt and everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I had um unfortunately found my identity in my job and in my title and like going to school and getting the degree and kind of um, you know, just having my own paycheck a little bit, you know, and helping.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I kind of found my identity and I didn't really even realize it until I no longer had it.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: So after um my husband graduated from residency, then we had our first daughter, and I went from having a title to having the best title ever of, you know, mom and wife.
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  SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, like, okay, this is a lot different, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so just having a season of like, you know, my husband was working a ton, like as soon as literally the next day after he graduated, he started working to try to pay off all the deck because it was it was really stressful on us.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: I bet so so I went through a series of time of, you know, like having Paige and then soon having, you know, Addy and not really having like you know, the proper, you know, identity and in who who I was in Christ, and just you know, meaning community around me.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: I knew I needed to be in God's word, but at that stage in life, you know, it's hard.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_01: And then with my husband's job, um, it just seemed like my girls were always getting sick.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so we weren't able to go to church because I couldn't drop them off at the daycare.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like if you know, if they're sick, you can't witness.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it made it really hard.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: But I think that's where that that hard heartbreak moment is where it was like, okay, so what am I gonna do?
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how am I gonna create this?
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: And so from there, really it was, you know, just gathering some local friends and being able to get together with them.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, I was a ch I used to, you know, be a teacher, so I always kind of have like a you know teacher heart also, and um just really a desire to get women in God's word, and so just you know, like starting, you know, writing Bible studies and sharing Bible studies and sharing them on, you know, the internet and stuff.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then you know, this was you know, obviously a number of years ago, and then um we I and I ended up getting contacted by a missionary in Venezuela.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she had started using my studies or our studies in, you know, um Spanish, translating them to Spanish, and she had contacted me and was like, you know, this is what I'm doing, you know, you know, is this okay?
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: Do you mind if I you know keep doing that?
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: We don't have a lot of resources in the Spanish language.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: And and going back in my story, this is what I think is so cool with how God, yeah, he goes before us.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I love to tell the especially to the younger generation of like God is doing things in your life right now and he's preparing you something that you might not be able to even see what he's working on right here for years.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: And that was my case where I was an you know an Air Force brat, raised, you know, in the Air Force, had a lot of friends, you know, from different countries, saw a lot of my friends go overseas.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: I was never able, fortunate to live overseas, but at a young age, like my heart was there.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, grew up with just like lots of like dolls and stuff of different, you know, like nationalities and languages, and I just loved that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then when I was in high school, then able to start going on some mission trips.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember being in the Ukraine, and again, you know, Air Force Bratt, you know, in the 90s, you know, Berlin Wall, you know, coming down, all that, you know, Russia opening up and you know, going to the Ukraine and stuff.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember being there, we were doing a VBS, and we were in this like apartment kind of complex, and I had gone out that night on the patio, and I remember looking at the night sky.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I know this is sounds so like simple and crazy, but just shows you like how God just reveals himself through nature too.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: I remember looking at the night sky and being like, oh my goodness, like this sky, the moon, looks exactly the same way that it looks like in the United States.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I know that truth is like so simple, but for me, it just made a huge impact on my life and on my heart.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, went back, you know, and you know, went to college and you know, got married and all that kind of stuff.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: But then once I started staying home with my girls, it's like God brought that passion back.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: And once Adurne had contacted me and I saw that need as a sister in Christ, I was like, oh my goodness, like you can have anything that we create.
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  SPEAKER_01: The only thing I ask is, could you give it back to me?
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: Because I want to keep giving it to others.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: And so from there, um, every time we would launch another Bible study, we'd say, Hey, if you want this and you don't have your language, contact us.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: We would love to work with you.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and truly from there, God has has blessed us where we actually are serving women around the world in 33 languages.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's a God thing.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: It is, it's just it's a huge honor and a blessing.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I honestly like if you meet uh my translators, we have about 60 translators now.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, they're just the best of the best.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, truly it's all God because I er so basically another thing that we do is we do leader women's leadership training.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So not only do all do we do all these you know Bible you know resources and stuff, but we also do lead women's leadership training where we're actually training leaders, women to be leaders in their homes, in their countries, because our whole prayer is reaching that one woman who you know influences her family, who influences her neighborhood or her community, and obviously then her nation.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: And that's kind of like our our prayer.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so we're training, you know, our translators and our leaders and stuff too.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have branches and stuff in all these different nations.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's just yeah, it's just you know, it's amazing.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: But I do, I mean, God has blessed us where we we get the sweetest of the sweetest.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I can't brag, you know.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, my my women are just so sweet, even the fact that they're actually volunteers too.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: So they do all this amazing work and they volunteer time because it shows you how passionate they are with what they're doing.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then my payment, basically, my payment to them is every other year I bring them back to my home.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: I live in Dallas, Texas, um, and I have I'm blessed with some really sweet neighbors around me.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: And we house them in our in our home for a week and we do leadership training and bring them together, and they experience that community that we're wanting to cultivate and create.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: They experience it, and then we send them back to the countries and be like, okay, you know, tag, you're it, go, you know.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's so crazy.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, to think about just that one small step of faith in over 33 countries, and I mean, I'm guessing thousands of leader training and you know, just probably then therefore exponentially into millions of impact.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's incredible.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and all of our translations we allow to be downloaded for free, printed for free, and distributed for free because we're wanting to empower women in these nations, we're wanting to empower ministries and churches, like especially with the pandemic this year.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, God had set us up for it.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we added uh one like one new language uh for eight months.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: We added eight new languages in 2020.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: And women were just coming to us and saying, we see that you had us in this language, we want those resources, you know.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: Can we have it?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: Can we work with you?
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: We want to, you know, we we need this.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: We need God's word.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's amazing.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I know people can go pick at your website and look at all the stuff, but give us a quick rundown what you provide for women like us and even what partnership, what that looks like maybe to partner with your ministry.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: I would love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So basically, what's really cool is really American women, you know, ordinary just American women who do our studies are supporting this ministry, which is incredible.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: So when you buy one of our Love God Greatly journals like on Amazon, or you you know, you buy, you know, our Love God Greatly Bible and stuff, you're supporting this amazing work that we are blessed to do.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, as women, you know, do our studies, and and that's the thing too, we're not only just equipping women around the world um with God's word, we're equipping our own women in the United States with God's word.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: And what we try to do is one thing we're passionate about is we want, you know, really our whole name, love God greatly.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: We want to encourage women to love God greatly.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: And we do that by, you know, our blog posts, our journals, um, all of our uh Bible study content, but we also try to do it even in just how it looks.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: So, like our Bible, you know, inside is beautiful with just the scripture art and just how it's designed.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but then also just the stories, the stories of God's faithfulness.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, in our sisters here in the United States and around the world.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: We try to have, you know, have it be beautiful, you know, in both in both ways to look at um and to read.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember a couple of years ago I was in Hungary, I was speaking at a women's conference, and I had brought, you know, our translator translated uh Hungarian journals, and after the conference, I had like a little booth and stuff.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: And so some women had come to talk to me, and I started just passing them out and giving them to them.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember they took them and they were just like, oh my goodness, like this is in Hungarian.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Well, yeah, like that's what we do.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like we want to love you and serve you and get these studies in your language, and they like started to tear up and cry.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: And they said, Oh my goodness, these studies are as beautiful in our language as they are in English.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: And it just hit me so hard because that's another way that we can love our sisters in Christ by giving them beautiful quality Bible studies that are the same quality as what they see in in the English language, also have that in their language, either as you know, Hungarian or Indonesian or German or Czechoslovakian or um, you know, just all different kinds of languages.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, yeah, that's what we try to do.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think the attention to detail there of making it beautiful.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh, women have a universal desire no matter where they live, because I too have traveled all over the world and it's been a while, you know.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: That was pre-kids, and now we're just entering into that.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, it's time to take our kids outside of the boundaries of our country so they can experience it.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: But um, beauty is a universal desire.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: We want our to be beautiful.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: We want that thing.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's part of the genetic feminine makeup and a reflection of God that we get to carry.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that's incredibly powerful.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: And the the thought that you guys would make it just as beautiful.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's really easy.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: I think I I think that's a key piece because it's, I don't know, sometimes I'm like, oh, you know, it's it doesn't need to be all that or this.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: And and we don't take that time to create beauty or to enjoy beauty in a simple, like you said, a journal and a Bible study.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but there there's so much meaning that you know, we and attention to though that we give that's something that's really beautiful and um inspires us to connect with the creator.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I love that.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: That is just the story.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and it helps when one thing I always say to them too is God sees you, he knows you, and he loves you.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: And when they can have Bible studies or they can have God's word in their language, that speaks truth that hey, God sees you.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, you have his attention and that he loves you so much that he wants you to have these resources.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: And so just even just having it in their languages validates to them that God, he knows you.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: And and and I remember even like I said when I was on hunger, I remember one of the women or a few of the women kept saying, you know, why did you come to us?
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like of all the you know, the the countries, you know, why did you come to us?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I just remember responding and being like, Why wouldn't I come to you?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like I mean, you are important and I'm honored to be here with you.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so um, I don't know, I just it's just yeah, it's really important.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's so cool.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I I am pretty confident my friends are going to go check out your website and learn more and get the resources and stuff.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: And please, I mean, the one of the big reasons that I wanted to invite you on one, because I love this and I love what I saw in the ministry.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: And Jana is persistent.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: She knew we needed to talk.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um that's what I love about her.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I've been getting to do this podcast.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it'll be four years in March in 2021.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: And uh at the beginning of every year, we've done, I like rhythms, right?
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: And so a lot of what I I realize that I've been sharing is called wholehearted rhythms.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: And it's this rhythm of seasons and evaluating our season.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's rhythms of deliberate intention connection with our kids.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's rhythms, most importantly, the wholehearted rhythms that connect us to our savior and to really be able to live wholeheartedly, the source of that, which is Jesus Christ.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like without him, it's just striving and it's really, really hard.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: And we end up brokenhearted again and again.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: So at the beginning of the year, I love taking um a few weeks to fast and pray and most importantly to establish some rhythms that I want to carry out into the year.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: And the main, the like the the pinnacle of that to me is getting in the word of God.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: So this is one of the th the reasons that I wanted to just talk about.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: What does it look like to get to create that wholehearted rhythm?
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: What does it look like to make getting in the word of God more fun?
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: You touched on one of it, making it beautiful.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um what are the what are some of those elements that you teach other women, teach your leaders to to birth the passion in them, but also to share the passion with others of getting in that word of getting in the word of God on a regular basis?
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: I think for me, and I'm just speaking for my own life, um, what I've learned, and it's so funny, like again, how God grows you, like through the years, of the difference of why you're doing it, right?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: So when I was younger, you know, and I was taught how to have a quiet time and the importance of it, and you get that, like in your mind, you understand that, right?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you need to spend time with God.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, of course I need to spend time with God.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, I get that, but then what would happen is I would get busy or I would miss a day, and then I'd miss another day, and then I miss another day.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then what would end up happening was shame would come on me and I'd hear, like, oh, you know, God's been waiting for you and you haven't shown up for a couple days.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: Shame on you, you know, and and you know, all that kind of stuff.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: And it and it really kind of almost like ends up holding you back, right?
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: And not being like, oh, I don't know, you know, like it almost you know deters you from wanting to do that and everything.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like I've worked through that through the years where instead of approaching it that way, approach it with um just an understanding of that relationship, right?
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: Of this isn't an obligation.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: I want to do this because I love him, right?
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I want to, you know, I want to enjoy this relationship and I want to find out like what do you have for me?
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I want to, you know, just make it more personal instead of making it an obligation.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's one thing I always pray for my girls is I want them to obey the Lord, not out of obligation, but because they love him.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like I want their obedience to be because you know they love the Lord and they're thankful and they're thankful to Jesus for what he's you know done for their lives.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: And just in an it's just a little tweak.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't seem like it's a lot, but it makes a huge difference.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: And so when I've struggled where maybe I've had, you know, like super busy days, and I, you know, like, oh gosh, you know, I haven't had my quiet time in the morning, and I feel like you know, bad about it.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's helped me have that with that um that vision or that you know that lens of love and relationship, you know, has really just helped me.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like it make me enjoy it, enjoy that time more.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when it's a a wholehearted response, it's a wholehearted obligation and yes, have to check off.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: And just seeking that that that relationship and and learning to enjoy it and then praying about it.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: And the thing is, like, it's not like every single day you're like, oh my goodness, you know, get mine or coffee or tea, and here we go.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, sometimes it's you know, like, okay, here we go.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: But yes, but still having that heart of that relationship, and I love this, and thank you, Lord, and thank you for showing that to me.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, and then of course it doesn't even end.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: I keep pointing to my one chair because I do it over there.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: But it doesn't even end just in that quiet time.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, really, it's you do it throughout the day, right?
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you're still having that per persistent, like, you know, or prayer, you know, that prompting of your your heart and praying over things as you're going about the day.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's a good for me, I feel like being in God's word um is just it like resets me, you know.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: I've noticed in my heart when I've gotten super busy, or let's say for example, on vacation, or you just get out of your rhythms, right?
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and then I haven't been in God's word like I should.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I feel like you know, fears creep in more.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, just um not, you know, I'm not content, you know, I'm you know, I struggle in different ways.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: And when I get back to God's word, I'm like, oh, thank you, Lord.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like you reset me again, you know.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, it's so good.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's all about, I think too, it there's that, you know, it's a spiritual discipline that can feel so heavy.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: But the the fruit of any discipline is such goodness that we can't help but want to partake and eat it and go like, oh, it's just having that chair, having that rhythm, have you know, taking that step and that action.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's so worth it.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Even if I don't feel like it today, I know what's on the other side is goodness.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: And so it is worth carving out the time, making the effort, um, you know, pushing paws on something else so I can go sit and even if it's even if it's one verse, right?
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that can be the catalyst for change for the rest of our day, which is so invaluable.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I love it.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's good.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's a good tip.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: Any any woman could take to the bank and just remember as they strike out in this new year of going, okay, I want this to become part of my rhythm.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I doing it again?
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: This is why.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, exactly.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: But one of the other things that we are doing in this season is or in every season is we take time to pause and reflect on the season before and then take some of what we've learned and apply it to what we want to learn ahead.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so we can do that seasonally.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: I do that weekly with um some business friends.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's how we evaluate what do we learn that week and and what what do we want to learn in the week ahead?
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: We can do that through every year too.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I thought it would be fun, especially as we've been talking about it in my community.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: I want to, I kind of want to hear what did you learn of in 2020?
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and that's an acronym, we won't go through all of it today, but what did you like about 2020 and what didn't you like about 2020 and what are you excited about in 2021?
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so 2020, I'm sure like with a lot of your listeners has just been a crazy year for me.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: So um, my husband's an ER doctor here in Dallas.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: So our life has been just kind of.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it's at the same time, I would say, you know, just with that question of um, you know, it seems like this year we were but just bombarded and hit with uh just so many things, like every single month.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we ended up we we started our home renovation.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: I had waited 10 years to like change the paint color of my walls and stuff, you know, like it's crazy.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: And we had just started home renovation at the end of um January.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: And so we had, you know, it's only supposed to be, you know, like a few weeks long or whatever.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: And so we moved in with my parents.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, my dad is 80 and has Parkinson's and stuff, and we were moved in here with them.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then once COVID hit, um, we you know, my husband was like, ah, you know, he was seeing patients, and he's like, it's just it's just not good, you know, for us to be here with your dad.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so he ended up moving out, getting an apartment, a one-bedroom apartment in Dallas.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: So, long story short, we ended up following him because his one of his dear family members got sick, and I just didn't feel like it was there's just so much stress.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyway, we've just had a crazy, crazy year.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it was so good as far as I just felt like it really um just even pulled me closer to the Lord because I just had to depend on him so much, you know, and just understanding that even though, like, you know, month by month, all these different things that were going on, this did not surprise him.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: And he's always in my future, he always goes before me and he knows what's coming, and he watches over us.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so I just saw that so many times um this year of just different things, you know, different heartbreaks that you know were happening to our family, and um just a lot of spiritual warfare and stuff.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: Because like I said, we were getting eight languages and we were getting one new language.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: So as the world was shut down, love God greatly was poised to step up and really serve.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: And so even though everybody was home, um, I ended up being a in a one-bedroom apartment with all three of my girls trying to homeschool, trying to, they had like little Zoom meetings, trying to work, like it was just like you know, insane for a while.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: Crazy, but still seeing the goodness of the Lord, you know, and stuff.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: And so that was just even though it was a hard year, it was a really um good year because I feel like it just simplified our life.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we got rid of a lot of activities and a lot of maybe unnecessary um busyness.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, right.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: It kind of pruned our lives.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: It did, it did very much so, yeah.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: So, what have you learned from 2020 that you want to take with you into 2021?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I think that was the biggest thing.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: If I think for a lot of us, it revealed maybe idols that we have in our lives and stuff, and it took a lot of those idols, it revealed them to us, and then I think we had the choice of taking down.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: And so for me, um, I was just really busy, you know, and you know, I kind of was like, oh, you know, my girls need to be involved in this, we need to do this, da-da-da-da-da, you know, and stuff.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so for me, 2021, I just um I just want our life to be a little bit not so busy and a little bit more simplified.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I think just I think for all of us, just enjoying, understanding the importance of family and friends and community and relationship um and not taking it for granted.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: And so I just really want to go into 21, 2021 um with even just more gratitude for what we what I already have.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's so good.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: I I love, I think many of us are going, yes, me too.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's a good reminder.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it we can quickly forget what we have learned.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think that's why the reflection process is so important and then writing it down and really meditating, okay, what is it that we want to take on with us into the next season?
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: What whatever lessons we learn or habits we built or rhythms that we created and what's worth keeping.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and and that takes just intention.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: It it takes us being deliberate and making that step.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I have loved all of this.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: Janna was spot on, of course, your kindred spirit.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: There's so many things that I'm like, oh, I'm gonna talk to you about this and this and this.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: But what is maybe one parting piece of wisdom or encouragement that you would give to women, um, whether it's about leadership or getting in the word or just sharing Jesus in whatever season that they're in?
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: I just think for me at least, just understanding, first of all, that God loves you, that he sees you, you know, and just really, you know, not just understanding with your mind, but truly understanding it with your heart and understanding that he, you know, he always promises that he is with us.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I just feel like I've just for me, I've experienced that um this year.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: And then just walk your walk forward in faith.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I feel like so many things in my life, like I didn't know, you know, I didn't know what was coming, but I knew what God was calling me to.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: I knew what he had placed in my heart.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: And so I know it's crazy scary.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like I get it, like I live there, I've done it, I live that way too.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, we're we're challenged in Joshua 1.9 to be strong and courageous, right?
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like this is like our generation and a generation that we're raising, we need to train ourselves and our children to trust the Lord and to be strong and courageous and move forward and you know, just hold to those truths that he is with us.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: He says it over and over again um, you know, throughout the Bible that he is with us, you know.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: And so for me, that's just what I want to just encourage women to do also.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's so good, Angela.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for sharing.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: Just bless your ministry, bless you.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I am excited for how the Lord will continue to expand in 2021.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: It was a huge honor, so I so appreciate it.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, friend, if a wholehearted rhythm of getting in the word of God is for me, it is also for you.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: If this episode was insightful, would you share it with a friend or two?
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: I would love to help the Love Greatly Ministry.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: And if you happen to share it on the socials, I'd love for you to tag at Simply Wholehearted so I can give you a proper thank you.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: Now, next week on the podcast, it'll be week number two of the three wholehearted rhythm pillar series.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know that's a mouthful, but that's what it is.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: And at the end of this month, I'll be making a super fun announcement about this podcast that is headed your way.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: And did I mention it will be fun?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, really it is.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to share with you.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: So until next time, continue to pursue perspective, purpose, and plans for ACE Simply Wholehearted Life.