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CMS 9/26/26 LIVE: Is Classic Metal a Nostalgia Franchise or Does It Have a Future? · Classic Metal Show

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SPEAKER_02: Hey, guys, this is Stu Marshall from Empires of Eden, and you're on CMS TV.
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SPEAKER_01: It is your classic metal show right here on theclassicmetalshow.com.
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SPEAKER_01: And that is Hardline right there featuring Johnny Gioeli on lead vocal with Hot Cherry.
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SPEAKER_01: And kicking off the show tonight, we heard Every Mother's Nightmare with Push.
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SPEAKER_01: And a guy knows when it comes to push comes to shove.
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SPEAKER_01: This guy knows how to push his weight around.
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SPEAKER_01: My good friend and partner, Chris Akin.
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SPEAKER_01: What's going on, Chris?
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SPEAKER_01: And there's a lot of it to push, my friend.
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SPEAKER_01: A lot of it still to push.
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SPEAKER_01: He is the pit master.
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SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: He starts a pit rift.
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SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: What's going on, brother?
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SPEAKER_01: How are we?
0:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, we're back.
0:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm back, at least.
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SPEAKER_01: I was pleasantly surprised that you hosted a show in my absence last week.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I sort of didn't have a choice because I had already invited Florentine on,
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SPEAKER_02: so I didn't want to cancel on him.
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SPEAKER_02: Especially the week of his release.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Two releases, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, two releases.
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SPEAKER_02: The Jersey Trash,
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SPEAKER_02: the comedy special,
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SPEAKER_02: and then the Terrorizing Telemarketers 8,
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SPEAKER_02: the phony phone call thing with Don Jamison.
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SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it was a good hang.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a good hang last week.
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SPEAKER_02: Matt was a good co-host for me.
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SPEAKER_02: Me and him have chemistry from doing Aftershocks for five
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SPEAKER_00: or six years, whatever it was.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Monty Colvin was great from Galactic Cowboys and Jim was great.
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SPEAKER_01: So yeah, we had a good time.
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SPEAKER_01: Good.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm glad, uh, glad the fans didn't miss out on having a live show.
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: I know that, uh,
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SPEAKER_01: you're not, uh,
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SPEAKER_01: exactly thrilled about doing live shows when I'm away, but, uh, you, uh,
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SPEAKER_01: pulled this one off and then good for,
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SPEAKER_00: you know, I was talking about it a little bit in the chat room.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not that I don't like doing them.
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SPEAKER_02: It's I don't like to lead.
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SPEAKER_01: I just don't like leading.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, that's part of it.
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SPEAKER_01: I get it.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, being in the OP chair, I guess.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: from the O&A reference,
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SPEAKER_01: if you get that,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: understanding where to take a break and coordinating the music and doing
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SPEAKER_01: the requests and You're comfortable doing your back end work with all the video
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SPEAKER_01: and processing and,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, more or less being the color commentary when it comes to our discussions.
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SPEAKER_02: I was saying before we got started in the chat,
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SPEAKER_02: people were,
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SPEAKER_02: we were talking about a little bit and it's like,
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SPEAKER_02: when you're leading,
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SPEAKER_02: I can think on the fly of something funny to say or an impression or something like
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SPEAKER_02: that.
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SPEAKER_02: When I'm leading, I never think about that shit because I'm like, is the video running?
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SPEAKER_02: Is this going?
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SPEAKER_02: Is the sound equal?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm too anal to do both.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I get you.
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SPEAKER_02: I can either be fucking funny or I can be leading.
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SPEAKER_02: And I didn't think last week was an especially funny show.
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SPEAKER_02: It was good.
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SPEAKER_02: It was fun.
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SPEAKER_02: But I don't think there was a lot of ha-has going around.
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SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_01: Even with a comedian on board.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, even with Jim.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, we had our moments, but for the most part, I didn't think it was super, super funny.
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SPEAKER_02: I thought it was just kind of good shooting the shit sort of a show.
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SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, again, I know that a lot of people who do live streaming and whatnot, they...
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: they've moved completely 100% to the digital realm of running their sound
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SPEAKER_01: and adjusting their audio and stuff by way of computer.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm an old school guy.
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SPEAKER_01: I've got an actual mixing board here directly in front of me,
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SPEAKER_01: and that seems to be very effective.
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SPEAKER_01: It works.
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SPEAKER_02: I have a board right here.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not plugged in, but I have one.
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SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, I had you all set up with a whole studio set up, but...
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: you're more of a digital guy and you like to work on the screens and so on and
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SPEAKER_01: so forth.
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SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I don't have anything against that.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just I like to have something right in my hand right here.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: to where I can move faders and I can,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, adjust sound and, you know, play music.
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: even if I got to go back to the old school CD players,
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SPEAKER_01: which I have CDs here in my rack,
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SPEAKER_01: if I had to do that for whatever reason, I haven't had to do that in a long time.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: The backup is there if I had to, you know, so it works out.
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SPEAKER_01: But, yeah, glad you had some competent co-hosts last week to, you know, fill the time.
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SPEAKER_01: And, you know,
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SPEAKER_01: I know you and I were talking a little bit this week,
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SPEAKER_01: catching up a little bit,
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SPEAKER_01: and how you thought, well, if I could get four hours, then I'm good with that.
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SPEAKER_01: And what did you say?
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SPEAKER_01: You went six hours and ten minutes or something?
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SPEAKER_02: We're like 6'10 or something.
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SPEAKER_02: And I really did.
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SPEAKER_02: I even told Matt,
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SPEAKER_02: like when Matt and I were putting it together,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: I was kind of like, well, dude,
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SPEAKER_02: because he asked me, he's like, do you think you're going to do the whole six hours?
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, no way.
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SPEAKER_02: No way.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, not even maybe.
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SPEAKER_02: It was no way.
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SPEAKER_02: If we get to four, I'll be good.
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SPEAKER_02: And we did the whole six and it went like this does.
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SPEAKER_02: It went super,
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SPEAKER_01: super quick.
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SPEAKER_01: It goes very fast.
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SPEAKER_01: So anyway,
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SPEAKER_01: speaking of going fast,
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SPEAKER_01: I know now for a fact that time is actually going quicker now.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I have had discussions with a couple of people just in this last week
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SPEAKER_01: And they were talking about how they didn't have any kind of a summer,
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SPEAKER_01: that it flew by.
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SPEAKER_01: I talked to a guy, a colleague, this week.
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SPEAKER_01: I hadn't talked to him in a few months.
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SPEAKER_01: And he called me out of the blue on Friday just to shoot the shit a little bit
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SPEAKER_01: and let me know he was going to be in town.
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SPEAKER_01: Monday, and he just wanted to check if I was going to be around on Monday.
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SPEAKER_01: And he goes, this summer just flew by.
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SPEAKER_01: My daughter got married in July, and here it is at the end of September.
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SPEAKER_01: And it was like, I didn't have anything.
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SPEAKER_01: I can't believe summer was even here at one point.
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SPEAKER_01: And I said, yeah, my partner Chris and I talk about that all the time.
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SPEAKER_01: And I look back and go, nothing happened this year.
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SPEAKER_01: Nothing.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just gone.
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SPEAKER_02: It just went quick.
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SPEAKER_02: Did you happen to listen to Florentine's podcast this week?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, I did.
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SPEAKER_02: He absolutely ripped on just what we're doing right now, talking about time.
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SPEAKER_01: I know.
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SPEAKER_01: I know.
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SPEAKER_01: I did.
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SPEAKER_01: He actually opened with that.
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SPEAKER_01: He was like, yeah, it's not going faster.
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SPEAKER_01: What's fucking wrong with you?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it's weird, though, because it's just the sense of space and time is just so foreign.
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SPEAKER_02: I think a lot of it is we're busy.
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SPEAKER_02: Is that what it is?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because, you know, man, the busier you are, the faster the day goes.
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SPEAKER_02: If you're not doing shit, it's a long slog to get to the end of a day.
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SPEAKER_02: And we're both so damn busy.
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SPEAKER_02: Holy smokes.
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SPEAKER_01: I know.
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SPEAKER_01: I know.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm thinking, shit, it's going to be October this week.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_00: I know.
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SPEAKER_00: I was having a chat with our publicist today about the book.
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SPEAKER_00: And he was asking me, he's
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SPEAKER_02: like, what's going on with the book?
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, bro, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: He's like, I'm ready to get started.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was like, so am I.
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SPEAKER_01: As soon as we get the draft,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm going to send it directly to him so he can get a sense of what the book is about
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SPEAKER_01: while we do the final shit.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, so, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And I see our publicist was kind enough to throw out an invite to go attend a Triumph show.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, are you going to go?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm looking into it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I may come to the Cleveland show.
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SPEAKER_01: I may go to the Pittsburgh show.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm going.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, come on, dude.
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SPEAKER_01: I may make the trip over and go to the Cleveland show with you, maybe.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's fine.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't have anybody to go with yet, so, you know, you're good.
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SPEAKER_02: More than welcome to be my plus one or I'll be your plus one or
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SPEAKER_01: whatever that works.
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SPEAKER_01: But I thought that was very kind of him to throw out an invite like that out of the blue.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Said, you want to attend a show?
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, fuck yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, we're colleagues now.
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SPEAKER_02: Now it throws everything.
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SPEAKER_02: Want this CD?
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SPEAKER_02: Want this box set?
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, here you go.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
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SPEAKER_01: So that was a nice surprise in the old email.
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SPEAKER_01: I was just like, wow, that's a nice invite.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the only negative to it is it's the day before Thanksgiving.
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SPEAKER_01: Is that what it is?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't care either.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's perfect for me because, you know, I'll have that time off anyway.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's it.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, so...
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SPEAKER_01: Well, that's cool.
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SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, that's what's going on.
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SPEAKER_01: But, yeah,
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SPEAKER_01: last week,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, as most of you were aware, I was out on the road with Dokken again.
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SPEAKER_01: I was in Dayton, Ohio, in Indianapolis, Indiana.
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SPEAKER_02: Hold on one second, Neely.
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SPEAKER_02: Hold on one second.
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SPEAKER_03: Hey, it's been five minutes,
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SPEAKER_03: and it's time now for Neely to talk Dokken on the Classic Metal Show.
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[music]
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SPEAKER_02: I've gotten away from playing that.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, anyway, uh,
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SPEAKER_01: they played with a lead afford and a lynch mob,
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SPEAKER_01: lynch mob, lynch mob open Lita was second and docking closed.
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SPEAKER_01: And of course, George came out and did his three songs at the end and, um, nice venue.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, I get, it's been around a while.
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SPEAKER_01: It's called the Rose music center in Dayton.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's an outdoor shed, but very nice, very nice venue.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, and big, big place and pretty full.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know what capacity it was at for the show,
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SPEAKER_01: but I could see all the way up into the,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, upper levels and it was all full up there too.
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SPEAKER_01: So I'm going to take a guess that it was maybe 80%.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So like 4,000 people or so, 4,500?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not really sure what that place holds.
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SPEAKER_02: It looked like about five, five or
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SPEAKER_01: six, right?
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SPEAKER_01: So it was a good rocking crowd.
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SPEAKER_01: Weather was very warm.
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SPEAKER_01: It was very humid.
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SPEAKER_01: I was just surprised at how warm and humid it was out.
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SPEAKER_01: But, you know, everybody seemed to have a really good time.
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SPEAKER_01: The bands had a great time.
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SPEAKER_01: It seems the fans were really digging it, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Seemed like the fans were enthusiastic, a good enthusiastic crowd.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: So, you know,
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SPEAKER_01: the band guys were pretty jazzed about it because of,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, the size of the place.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's kind of fun for those guys to play a big stage,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: because typically they're relegated to more of a theater level,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, type place.
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SPEAKER_01: And so this one was a big stage, big lights, you know, the whole...
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SPEAKER_01: whole thing so everybody was pretty stoked about that and then um we made our way
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SPEAKER_01: over to Indianapolis for a Sunday show of all things right which is very odd to play
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SPEAKER_01: a Sunday night but uh it was a it was
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SPEAKER_01: an older type theater downtown uh Indianapolis right downtown I think it was called
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SPEAKER_01: the Marat Theater okay and um Pretty cool venue.
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SPEAKER_01: It wasn't quite as full, but it's a Sunday night in blue-collar America.
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SPEAKER_01: So people typically work on Monday.
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SPEAKER_01: So going out on a Sunday show,
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SPEAKER_01: especially with an older legacy bands,
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SPEAKER_01: the old folks have to be in bed by a certain time to get up at 6
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SPEAKER_01: to go do their duties.
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SPEAKER_01: But the young people...
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SPEAKER_01: Is what's fascinating to me, how many younger people were out there.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Look like, you know, people in their maybe late teens, early, mid-twenties, a lot of those.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: CMS fans were out there, so shout out to the CMS fans who came up and said hello.
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SPEAKER_01: There you go.
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SPEAKER_01: And one guy, he shows up and he's like, hey, Neely, he goes, I listen to you and Chris.
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SPEAKER_01: I just love the show, man.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just so great.
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SPEAKER_01: I never miss it.
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SPEAKER_01: I knew you were going to be here.
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SPEAKER_01: I wanted to come up and say hello.
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SPEAKER_01: And so he goes, any chance you could get Don to sign some stuff for me?
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SPEAKER_01: And I said, well, we're going to be going out this exit here in about 30 minutes.
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SPEAKER_01: I said, if you want to hang around, I said, I'll make sure Don signs your stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: And so as we were leaving the venue, there was about six or seven guys hanging around.
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SPEAKER_01: This guy had all kinds of vinyl that I don't even own.
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SPEAKER_01: And he had vinyl of Long Way Home and had Don's Solitary Record on vinyl and Erase
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SPEAKER_01: the Slate on vinyl.
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SPEAKER_01: I know that was just re-released on vinyl here recently this year through Deco Records.
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SPEAKER_01: But then another guy had The original movie poster for Nightmare on Elm Street.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: He had that.
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SPEAKER_01: And these were all guys, I'm going to guess they were probably in their mid-20s, maybe.
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SPEAKER_01: Very young guys.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was like, look at this guy with all the vinyls.
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SPEAKER_01: And of course, that caught even Don's attention.
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SPEAKER_01: It was like, where did you get this?
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SPEAKER_01: Where did they press this?
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SPEAKER_01: He goes, oh, they're all imports.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, so good stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: Good meeting some fans and saying hello and shaking a hand and,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, taking a few pictures and all that kind of stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: Just kind of fun.
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SPEAKER_01: And I chatted it up with Lita for a little bit, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: And she's always very nice.
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SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, Lita's just very nice person to speak to.
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: I was in her dressing room chatting it up with her for a few minutes and,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, always just very kind, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: And, um, strangely enough, here's a, here's a weird story.
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SPEAKER_01: Now remember,
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SPEAKER_01: remember when, um,
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SPEAKER_01: remember when we did the,
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SPEAKER_01: uh, metal sludge and night out at Billy's club at the hi-fi way back.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think it was 2004.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's been 22 years, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Something like that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So, so metal sludge was still going pretty strong at that point.
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SPEAKER_01: And, uh, Stevie was already outed as the head of Metal Sludge.
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SPEAKER_01: So the secret was out at this point.
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SPEAKER_01: So they were hosting these Metal Sludge nights out.
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SPEAKER_01: And I made the trip over to Cleveland so we could broadcast the show for three nights.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it was like a Thursday night, a Friday night, and a Saturday night, I believe.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: The Saturday night,
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SPEAKER_01: we finished up the show and,
16:12
SPEAKER_01: you know, remember I used to lug all that equipment with me, all the computers.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that rolling thing.
16:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, all my cables and wires and mics and,
16:23
SPEAKER_01: you know, everything that we had to do to set up to broadcast the show live.
16:28
SPEAKER_02: Right.
16:29
SPEAKER_01: So I was wrapping up the equipment there and one of the girls who was one of
16:36
SPEAKER_01: the metal sludge jets, sludge jet of the month.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: I think she might have been the second or third one.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: Her name was Stephanie.
16:43
SPEAKER_02: Right.
16:43
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
16:44
SPEAKER_01: So she was at this metal sludge show because she's from Dayton, right?
16:49
SPEAKER_01: Right.
16:50
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I kind of knew her a little bit.
16:53
SPEAKER_01: I didn't really know her that well, but.
16:55
SPEAKER_01: So she was hanging out with a bunch of people that night.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: And as I was wrapping up and getting ready to leave the venue,
17:02
SPEAKER_01: she's like, hey,
17:03
SPEAKER_01: did you see, I don't know who it was she was looking for, somebody, I don't know.
17:06
SPEAKER_01: But I said, no, I haven't seen them.
17:09
SPEAKER_01: I said, I haven't seen them in a while.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: Oh, man, I was supposed to stay with them tonight.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: They offered me a place to stay so I didn't have to drive back to Dayton tonight.
17:18
SPEAKER_01: And I can't drive all the way from Dayton tonight after this.
17:23
SPEAKER_01: And I said, she goes, where are you staying?
17:26
SPEAKER_01: I said, well, I got a room out at the Hampton Inn out in Westlake.
17:29
SPEAKER_01: I said, I'm going to go out there and crash out and then head home in the morning.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: And she goes, can I stay at your room?
17:36
SPEAKER_01: I was just like, I don't give a shit.
17:41
SPEAKER_01: So I said, come on out.
17:42
SPEAKER_01: So she came out and I shared my room with her and stuff.
17:48
SPEAKER_01: That's the last time I saw her, right?
17:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
17:51
SPEAKER_01: And so I'm walking in the hallway at this Barad Theater in Indianapolis,
17:57
SPEAKER_01: and there's this girl standing out in the hallway yapping it up with one
18:00
SPEAKER_01: of Lita's guys.
18:02
SPEAKER_01: And she stops.
18:04
SPEAKER_01: She goes, I know you.
18:07
SPEAKER_01: And I looked at her, and I kind of recognized her.
18:10
SPEAKER_01: It didn't dawn on me right away who that was.
18:13
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
18:13
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: And she goes, do you remember me?
18:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm Stephanie.
18:18
SPEAKER_01: I was one of the sled jets.
18:19
SPEAKER_01: And then it dawned on me.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: I go, oh, I remember you.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: I said, I shared my hotel room with you.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: And she goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:25
SPEAKER_01: She goes, you're Wendell, right?
18:27
SPEAKER_01: And I go, yeah.
18:28
SPEAKER_01: She goes, I thought I recognized you.
18:30
SPEAKER_01: 22 years later.
18:32
SPEAKER_01: How time flies, man.
18:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no kidding.
18:35
SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: How does she look now?
18:38
SPEAKER_01: She was like a yoga instructor or aerobics or something and she's still in good shape.
18:45
SPEAKER_01: She just looks like a little older version of herself.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: I said, well, you're looking good, Stephanie.
18:51
SPEAKER_01: Are you still doing your aerobics instruction?
18:54
SPEAKER_01: She goes, it's yoga.
18:55
SPEAKER_01: I said, well, same difference, but she goes, yeah.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: She goes, I'm still doing that except now I got bigger tits.
19:05
SPEAKER_01: So she shook her big jugs at me.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: I guess she must've got implants.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: She got them done.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
19:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: So, you know,
19:13
SPEAKER_01: I just exchanged a couple of words with her and I thought,
19:16
SPEAKER_01: okay, Stephanie, nice to see you.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: I got things I got to do.
19:19
SPEAKER_01: I got to go.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: And she goes, see, even when I'm smoking pot, I still have a good memory.
19:26
SPEAKER_01: Well, good to know that you're over there, you know, burning one.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: Right.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: No kidding.
19:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
19:31
SPEAKER_01: Why do I care?
19:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
19:34
SPEAKER_01: But, uh, yeah, it was fun times.
19:36
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know,
19:38
SPEAKER_01: hanging out with the,
19:39
SPEAKER_01: with the guys and hanging out with Don, uh,
19:41
SPEAKER_01: the guys, the, the, uh,
19:43
SPEAKER_01: Chris and BJ and, um,
19:46
SPEAKER_01: And John took off very early Monday morning to go home and Don got a later flight.
19:52
SPEAKER_01: So we didn't have to leave the hotel till noon and I was taking him to the airport.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: So we just left the hotel at noon and went and found a sports bar and had some lunch
20:03
SPEAKER_01: and shot the shit.
20:04
SPEAKER_01: Right.
20:05
SPEAKER_01: Just hanging out.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: And then I took him to the airport, dropped him off and came home.
20:09
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
20:10
SPEAKER_01: So.
20:11
SPEAKER_01: Another whirlwind weekend.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: It was.
20:14
SPEAKER_01: Even Don was like, this was a good little run.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: He was feeling good and seeming to do all right.
20:21
SPEAKER_01: And I got him to wear his knee brace because he has this tendency
20:27
SPEAKER_01: to just start hobbling around the stage because his knee starts swelling up
20:30
SPEAKER_01: because he's got a torn meniscus.
20:32
SPEAKER_01: And I say, wear that brace, man.
20:35
SPEAKER_01: And he did both nights.
20:37
SPEAKER_01: He goes, you know, I should have been doing this all along.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no shit.
20:40
SPEAKER_01: You think?
20:44
SPEAKER_01: And so he, he actually, uh, he wore it home.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: He goes, I'm going to wear the, I think I'm going to wear the knee brace on the plane too.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: It just, it seems to really help.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: I was like, yeah, you should wear it.
20:54
SPEAKER_02: He's not sliding all over your fucking femur or whatever.
20:58
SPEAKER_02: The leg bone is fib.
21:00
SPEAKER_02: What is that fib fibular femur or whatever?
21:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a science major.
21:05
SPEAKER_02: That's why I have chat GPT.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
21:08
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: But, uh, yeah.
21:10
SPEAKER_01: So come Tuesday, it was back to reality again, back to the, Back to the real world.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: Right on.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: After a weekend, you know, out there playing Rockstar.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: So good times, though.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: Just fun.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: Dude, it's funny how many people think now that anytime Don plays a gig, you're there.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, pretty much.
21:31
SPEAKER_02: I got a call yesterday or today.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember when it was.
21:36
SPEAKER_02: Last day or two.
21:38
SPEAKER_02: I guess they're playing in Pittsburgh on a Wednesday.
21:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm not even sure if it's this Wednesday.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: No, it's in the first week of or second week of October.
21:48
SPEAKER_02: At Jurgles or wherever?
21:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, at Jurgles.
21:50
SPEAKER_01: They're doing three dates.
21:51
SPEAKER_01: They're doing Jurgles on a Wednesday.
21:53
SPEAKER_01: Then they're doing Jim Thorpe on Friday.
21:57
SPEAKER_01: And then they're doing New York on Saturday.
22:01
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
22:02
SPEAKER_02: Because I got a call saying, hey, are you and Neely going to be?
22:06
SPEAKER_02: First of all, me, no.
22:09
SPEAKER_02: No, not me.
22:10
SPEAKER_02: But then I was like, yeah, I don't think Neely's going to be out on a Wednesday.
22:15
SPEAKER_02: Just a hunch, but I don't think so.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: Well, I let Don know if, you know, I'm available if he makes the call.
22:24
SPEAKER_01: I may be there, but as of today, I'm not aware that I'll be there.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: Right.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: All right.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: But I will keep you posted.
22:32
SPEAKER_00: All right.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: Well, if you get over to there, take his ass over to the Pinball Palace.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: Pinball PA. Yeah.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll see what happens if and when I end up over that direction.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: Right.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: Right on.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah,
22:48
SPEAKER_01: that was pretty much my weekend into the week,
22:51
SPEAKER_01: and the rest of the week was nothing but work.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: But I did mention this to you on the phone.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: I've been watching that series on Paramount called Lioness.
23:04
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: I really got into that.
23:07
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
23:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm into,
23:09
SPEAKER_01: it's got three seasons and I'm into the,
23:12
SPEAKER_01: I believe it's the third or fourth episode in season three now.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: So I've been kind of binge watching that.
23:19
SPEAKER_01: I think this would be right up your alley because there's a lot of- I
23:21
SPEAKER_00: watched some of it.
23:22
SPEAKER_00: I watched like the first three or four episodes.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: I wasn't real sold on the first three or four episodes either,
23:28
SPEAKER_01: but the more they got into it,
23:30
SPEAKER_01: the less it became more about this woman power thing and more of just espionage
23:36
SPEAKER_01: and covert operations and a lot of tactical shit.
23:42
SPEAKER_02: It was pretty good.
23:43
SPEAKER_02: I'll have to give it another look because...
23:46
SPEAKER_02: I watched the first couple and I was like, oh, look, DEI Rambo.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: Great.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
23:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:52
SPEAKER_01: And I felt the same way at the beginning.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: But once you get past probably about the fifth episode,
24:00
SPEAKER_01: it becomes less about that and more about covert operations and CIA shit and a lot
24:08
SPEAKER_01: of guns and blowing up shit.
24:11
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm for that.
24:13
SPEAKER_01: I think you would really like that.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: And then it even gets more into like strippers and shit like that.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: Now you're talking.
24:21
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of Lesbo action in this.
24:23
SPEAKER_01: I like that too.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: And there's some stripper action in season three.
24:29
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it becomes more about the covert team than it is about the leader.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: Because in the beginning...
24:40
SPEAKER_01: It seemed like it was just all centered around her,
24:44
SPEAKER_01: but as it progresses into the season,
24:47
SPEAKER_01: it becomes more of an encompassing thing with secret government operations
24:53
SPEAKER_01: and shit like that.
24:55
SPEAKER_01: Going into Iraq and doing sneaky stuff
24:58
SPEAKER_01: and
25:01
SPEAKER_01: kidnapping some potentially dangerous person and Getting involved with
25:08
SPEAKER_01: the cartels down along the border and the drug trade and the human trafficking trade
25:13
SPEAKER_01: and all that kind of stuff.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: So I think you'd really dig it once you get into there.
25:18
SPEAKER_02: I'll have to take a look.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: I'll give it another shot.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: Why not?
25:20
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm really not finding much of anything good.
25:24
SPEAKER_02: The only show worth a damn I've been watching this week is there's a show called,
25:30
SPEAKER_02: I forget what the full name of it is, but it's called The Hunt for Saddam Hussein.
25:34
SPEAKER_01: It's on Facebook.
25:35
SPEAKER_02: TNT or TBS or one of them channels.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: Really, really good.
25:41
SPEAKER_02: It reminds me so much of Homeland that I'm just like, oh, this is good, but it's like real.
25:46
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's not a documentary.
25:48
SPEAKER_02: It's definitely acted,
25:50
SPEAKER_02: but it's about the real hunt and the real FBI and CIA operations and stuff.
25:56
SPEAKER_02: It's pretty damn cool.
25:58
SPEAKER_01: Right.
25:58
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I've been watching that.
26:02
SPEAKER_02: The other thing that I watched, this movie just, Is so goddamn good.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: And I know this is a,
26:08
SPEAKER_02: this is a real spoiler here that this is a good movie,
26:11
SPEAKER_02: but I watched casino again for the first time in a while last night.
26:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: I can't tell you how many times I've watched that.
26:19
SPEAKER_02: So it's always so good.
26:21
SPEAKER_02: And I started watching it.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: I was literally, I was just bored and I couldn't, and it was on like Tubi or something.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: And I just threw it on and I was like, ah, this movie is so fucking good.
26:33
SPEAKER_02: But then I went and I did a search for, what's his real name, Frank Rosenthal?
26:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: I looked on YouTube,
26:43
SPEAKER_02: and sure enough, the Aces High show, or whatever it's really called, was on YouTube.
26:47
SPEAKER_02: So I watched a couple episodes of that as well, and I was like, wow, look at this.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: Old Lefty Rosenthal.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: So I watched a little bit of that as well.
26:59
SPEAKER_02: Um, no, death said I have not watched that yet, but there's a new show.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: It's a spinoff of the show snowfall, which I know you haven't watched, but that's great too.
27:09
SPEAKER_02: Uh, called the drop.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: I have not checked it out yet.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: I'm, I need to, I'm, I'm very behind on all my, on all my TVing.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: I've been very busy.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's good.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: You know?
27:22
SPEAKER_01: So, um, I don't really get into series as often as you do,
27:29
SPEAKER_01: but I really believe once you get past the fourth or fifth episode
27:35
SPEAKER_01: that you'll start really getting into it.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: And it's that Taylor Sheridan who did Yellowstone and Dutton Ranch and stuff like that.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: So it sort of has that same... Grit or whatever?
27:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, same excitement about it.
27:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
27:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'll go back and give it another turn.
27:54
SPEAKER_02: Why not?
27:56
SPEAKER_02: Got nothing else to watch.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that's kind of how I filled out my evenings after a long workday.
28:05
SPEAKER_01: So it's a good series.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: Like I said, I'm almost through it.
28:11
SPEAKER_01: And so when I'm done with that, then I'll have nothing else to watch.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Death's Head says about Unabomber on Netflix.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: I'll never watch that.
28:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to tell you,
28:23
SPEAKER_02: as much as I'm fascinated by the Unabomber and all that,
28:26
SPEAKER_02: I'll never watch that because it's a fucking other DEI bullshit show.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:32
SPEAKER_02: It's supposedly from the eyes of the CIA that was hunting for him,
28:37
SPEAKER_02: except the lead is a chick and there was no chick in the fucking room.
28:42
SPEAKER_01: Right.
28:42
SPEAKER_02: So, so they're,
28:43
SPEAKER_02: they're just making up a character so that they can have female empowerment and have
28:47
SPEAKER_02: the woman be the fucking hero.
28:49
SPEAKER_02: Fuck you and your stupid show, Netflix.
28:51
SPEAKER_02: Fuck off.
28:54
SPEAKER_01: Let's just rewrite the script.
28:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:56
SPEAKER_02: Let's, let's,
28:56
SPEAKER_02: let's change the history so that it doesn't match at all to what actually happened.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: Good idea.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: Dopes.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: That kind of stuff doesn't interest me in the least.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: Not when I know the story.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: If I don't know the story, you might get away with it because I don't know the story.
29:15
SPEAKER_02: But the Unabomber, I've watched 400 documentaries on the guy and whatever.
29:19
SPEAKER_02: I've seen every one of these agents that were involved interviewed.
29:24
SPEAKER_02: And then they're going to say, well, here's Joan Smith or whatever her fucking name is.
29:29
SPEAKER_02: And she's the lead investor.
29:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, get the fuck out of here with this bullshit.
29:35
SPEAKER_01: Just trying to inject that in there.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: It's like, nope.
29:39
SPEAKER_02: Not for me.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: When is the world going to learn that guys are just better than women in many things?
29:47
SPEAKER_01: When are we just going to accept that?
29:49
SPEAKER_02: Dude, we're not.
29:51
SPEAKER_02: And even worse, the world is just so fucked now.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: On the Seth show on Wednesday, we were playing videos.
29:57
SPEAKER_02: There was like a Caitlin Bennett type of a person that was out on the streets.
30:04
SPEAKER_02: And he had a picture of Sidney Sweeney.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: And Lindsey Clancy next to each other.
30:11
SPEAKER_02: And he's just going out on the streets going, which one is hurting women more?
30:15
SPEAKER_02: And the women just were all like, well, clearly it's Sydney Sweeney that's hurting women more.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: It's like, this woman killed her fucking kids.
30:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
30:24
SPEAKER_03: Yo, Metalheads, what the hell are you waiting for?
30:26
SPEAKER_03: Metallica's and Justice For All just dropped and remastered 2LP Vinyl Glory, and it is crushing.
30:31
SPEAKER_03: Blackened, One,
30:33
SPEAKER_03: Harvester of Sorrow,
30:34
SPEAKER_03: those riffs hit harder than a freight train,
30:37
SPEAKER_03: and the drums will straight up cave your chest in.
30:39
SPEAKER_03: This is the album that defined thrash.
30:42
SPEAKER_03: And now it sounds meaner, louder, and heavier than ever.
30:47
SPEAKER_03: If you call yourself a Metallica fan, then you need to own this.
30:50
SPEAKER_03: Smash the link at the bottom of the screen right now and grab your copy
30:53
SPEAKER_02: before it's gone.
30:55
SPEAKER_02: She strangled her kids.
30:56
SPEAKER_02: This one showed her ass on a commercial.
30:59
SPEAKER_02: How is that worse?
31:02
SPEAKER_02: And they're all amped up with their answers to, you know, this makes people sexualize women.
31:08
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: Shut up.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: That has always been and will always be what we care about with you.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: Sorry if you don't like that, but that's the way it is.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: You can't change human nature.
31:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
31:22
SPEAKER_00: There's a reason no one talks to ugly chicks.
31:25
SPEAKER_00: There's a reason for that because our only interest
31:28
SPEAKER_02: is to at least mind fuck you.
31:32
SPEAKER_02: You can have female friends,
31:34
SPEAKER_02: but I guarantee you,
31:35
SPEAKER_02: universally,
31:35
SPEAKER_02: any guy that has female friends has thought about fucking that female friend.
31:40
SPEAKER_02: Every single time, that is the truth.
31:44
SPEAKER_02: Every time.
31:45
SPEAKER_02: That is a hundred percentism.
31:48
SPEAKER_02: And for them to go off and try and say, well, Sidney Sweeney is bad for women.
31:53
SPEAKER_02: Sidney Sweeney is exactly what women need.
31:57
SPEAKER_02: Makes us want to care about them.
31:59
SPEAKER_02: Right.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: Right.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: Well, I saw one guy doing the man on the street thing about that Clancy lady.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: And he goes, you know, what is her first name?
32:12
SPEAKER_01: Lindsay.
32:13
SPEAKER_01: Lindsay Clancy.
32:16
SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts on this Lindsay Clancy?
32:19
SPEAKER_01: And he goes, well, you know, I completely understand her, blah, blah, blah.
32:22
SPEAKER_01: You know, he goes, well, let's say he goes, so you support Lindsay Clancy.
32:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: And he goes, well,
32:29
SPEAKER_01: so if Lindsay Clancy kept uttering the N-word through trial,
32:35
SPEAKER_01: could you support her then?
32:37
SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think so.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, yeah.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: You know, so the N-word is more powerful than killing your kids.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: Than choking your kids out.
32:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:48
SPEAKER_01: People are so fucking dumb.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: So the N-word trumps killing your kids.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: Way more dangerous.
32:56
SPEAKER_02: Those words hurt, man.
32:59
SPEAKER_01: But being a sexy chick trumps killing your kids as being bad.
33:04
SPEAKER_02: Yes, of course.
33:06
SPEAKER_02: How dare she hold footballs up over those beautiful tits, bitch.
33:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's just, that's just envy.
33:15
SPEAKER_02: It's just, yeah, it's just ridiculous.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just funny.
33:20
SPEAKER_01: So just, just dumb.
33:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is.
33:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I support whatever the most, the more popular thing is today.
33:27
SPEAKER_01: So if it's supporting Lindsay Clancy, I'm all on board.
33:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:31
SPEAKER_02: Lindsay Clancy, Luigi Mangione, all them, you know, they, they get all that love for what?
33:37
SPEAKER_02: For doing horrendous things.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:41
SPEAKER_02: Fucking craziness.
33:42
SPEAKER_02: This world's crazy.
33:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: We live in, we live in the upside down now.
33:48
SPEAKER_00: End of days.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: As you biblical people say.
33:51
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
33:52
SPEAKER_01: Stranger things.
33:54
SPEAKER_01: We're in the upside down.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: We really are.
33:58
SPEAKER_02: Or, or if you want to go real old school, it's like the bizarro world with the super friends.
34:02
SPEAKER_02: Remember when there was like bizarro Superman and wonder woman and whatnot.
34:08
SPEAKER_02: That's what we're living in now.
34:09
SPEAKER_02: It's like everything's opposite of what it should be.
34:13
SPEAKER_02: Just crazy.
34:14
SPEAKER_01: Remember, it kind of reminds me of that goofy thing we used to do in school, opposite day.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: Remember that?
34:22
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
34:23
SPEAKER_01: It's just like that.
34:27
SPEAKER_01: It's opposite day, only it's every day now.
34:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's opposite life now.
34:35
SPEAKER_01: So aside from work and more work and more work, what have you been filling your week out with?
34:42
SPEAKER_02: Not a whole lot, really.
34:44
SPEAKER_02: I had to take my mom for another surgery on her back on whatever day that was, Tuesday.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: So that took me out of the loop for a bit.
34:54
SPEAKER_02: Then, of course, I'm so fucking brilliant.
34:58
SPEAKER_02: Now that I'm doing the whole VA thing and really trying to get my health in order,
35:05
SPEAKER_02: I had an audiology appointment.
35:07
SPEAKER_02: I got to get this ear that had the molten metal drop down in it fixed.
35:10
SPEAKER_02: I got to get like a hearing aid or surgery or whatever the fuck I need to do.
35:14
SPEAKER_02: And so Friday's the day, right?
35:16
SPEAKER_02: I've been waiting, made the appointment about a month ago, waiting.
35:20
SPEAKER_02: I go down, go to the appointment.
35:22
SPEAKER_02: It's not till Tuesday of next week.
35:25
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
35:26
SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, motherfucker.
35:28
SPEAKER_02: And of course I'm like, well, don't you think maybe you could slide me in there?
35:31
SPEAKER_02: Like, well, you can hang out for about an hour or so and we'll see if we can get you in.
35:34
SPEAKER_02: So I do.
35:35
SPEAKER_02: Do they get me in?
35:36
SPEAKER_02: No.
35:37
SPEAKER_02: Of course not.
35:39
SPEAKER_02: Come to me after about an hour and say, yeah, we're not going to get you in today.
35:42
SPEAKER_02: You might as well just go home.
35:44
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: All right.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, we'll see you Tuesday.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: Well, look at you sticking to your appointments
35:51
SPEAKER_02: and things.
35:51
SPEAKER_02: Dude, I'm really, I made the commitment to fixing shit and I am going to fix shit.
35:58
SPEAKER_02: You know,
35:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm on the end of eight weeks,
36:01
SPEAKER_02: I think it is now with the fasting and I think Even somebody in
36:05
SPEAKER_02: the chat room said I look a little bit thinner.
36:07
SPEAKER_01: You know, your face definitely looks thinner.
36:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've lost about 45 pounds, which is good.
36:13
SPEAKER_02: Wow, look at you.
36:16
SPEAKER_02: And I'm by no means there.
36:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm not like, all right, cool, bring on the cake.
36:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm not to that level yet, but I got a long way to go.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: And I'm sure at some point they'll be having me stick my gut with Ozempic or Wegovy
36:31
SPEAKER_02: or whatever the fuck.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: And that's fine because I'm going with it now.
36:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm just whatever.
36:37
SPEAKER_02: I start the, it's called the MOVE program, which to me is completely insulting.
36:43
SPEAKER_02: They should just call it the FAT program.
36:47
SPEAKER_02: But I start the FAT program with the military here in two or three weeks,
36:52
SPEAKER_02: October 11th or 15th or something.
36:55
SPEAKER_02: I start that and then it's I think two months of counseling
36:59
SPEAKER_02: to figure out what you're going to do and then And then they either give you
37:06
SPEAKER_02: the shot so it falls off you in record time or whatever.
37:10
SPEAKER_02: So I would imagine by Christmas,
37:12
SPEAKER_02: especially if they go Ozempic,
37:14
SPEAKER_02: I'll be looking like a fucking ghoul like Kelly Osbourne or whatever.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm literally, I don't know if you can really tell, but I'm starting to grow the beard longer.
37:26
SPEAKER_02: It's like a goatee,
37:28
SPEAKER_02: but I'm growing it longer because I'm petrified
37:30
SPEAKER_02: that once I start getting Getting fucking skinny that I'm going to get
37:35
SPEAKER_02: that fucking horrible looking turkey neck.
37:38
SPEAKER_02: And I just don't want to, I don't want that on camera.
37:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:48
SPEAKER_02: That, that is the biggest thing I'm,
37:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm fucking worried about is what, what is, what is this shit?
37:54
SPEAKER_02: It's a mess now,
37:55
SPEAKER_02: but what's it going to,
37:56
SPEAKER_02: it's going to look like a fucking flying squirrel at some point.
37:59
SPEAKER_02: You know, I'll be able to jump out of a plane without a parachute, just open my arms.
38:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:04
SPEAKER_02: And I'm even seeing it now dropping 40 pounds.
38:07
SPEAKER_02: I got a lot of loose fucking skin and shit on my arms and shit.
38:10
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, oh boy, I better start pumping them weights a little bit harder.
38:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: Trying to thicken my arms up a little bit so I don't look like Rocky.
38:21
SPEAKER_02: Right.
38:21
SPEAKER_02: And not Rocky the boxer, Rocky the squirrel.
38:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: Hey, rock me.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: Watch me pull a squirrel out of my ass.
38:31
SPEAKER_01: Again!
38:37
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm glad you're sticking to it, man.
38:42
SPEAKER_01: It's a new Chris Akin.
38:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:45
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's just time.
38:47
SPEAKER_02: I had a long talk with myself, really, or long thoughts with myself, and I was just...
38:54
SPEAKER_02: Looking around and I think I've said this before on the show,
38:57
SPEAKER_02: but man,
38:57
SPEAKER_02: I look around, I don't see a bunch of fucking 500 pound fucking 60 year olds.
39:03
SPEAKER_02: You just don't see them.
39:04
SPEAKER_02: So I'll be 58 next month.
39:06
SPEAKER_02: It's like, it's either do it now.
39:08
SPEAKER_02: It's literally do or die at this point.
39:11
SPEAKER_02: So I'm doing it.
39:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm just going to.
39:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to do whatever I need to do.
39:16
SPEAKER_02: And not only just the fat thing,
39:17
SPEAKER_02: because honestly,
39:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't really give a shit about the weight, really, because what am I doing?
39:22
SPEAKER_02: It's not like I'm out running the bars, banging whores or whatever anymore.
39:29
SPEAKER_02: But it's getting all of it fixed,
39:31
SPEAKER_02: getting my hearing fixed,
39:34
SPEAKER_02: getting my eyes fixed,
39:36
SPEAKER_02: which God knows,
39:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how I'm going to make it to this fucking appointment in March.
39:43
SPEAKER_02: Seems like such a long fucking time away to wait for a fucking eye appointment,
39:47
SPEAKER_02: but I might have to try.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: Dude, the worst thing about the eye thing is,
39:52
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I told you this or not,
39:54
SPEAKER_02: but remember when I had my shoulder all fucked up and I was doing the show from bed
40:00
SPEAKER_02: and I had the microphone in there?
40:01
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yes.
40:02
SPEAKER_02: I still have the microphone in there.
40:04
SPEAKER_02: I just never took it out and I just keep it there in case of,
40:08
SPEAKER_02: you know,
40:08
SPEAKER_02: whatever, in case something ever happens that I need to do the show in bed again.
40:12
SPEAKER_02: So, I don't know, month,
40:14
SPEAKER_02: month and a half ago,
40:15
SPEAKER_02: maybe a little longer,
40:16
SPEAKER_02: I have a back scratcher that I keep on the bed,
40:20
SPEAKER_02: and I dropped it off the side of the bed,
40:22
SPEAKER_02: so I went,
40:24
SPEAKER_02: you know,
40:24
SPEAKER_02: kind of climbed over to the side of the bed to just reach down and get
40:28
SPEAKER_02: the stupid thing, and I conked my fucking eye on the hinge of this thing.
40:36
SPEAKER_02: You know, just the hinge of it hit me right here on the side of my eye.
40:42
SPEAKER_02: And I think I might've cracked my orbital bone because dude, I hit it so hard.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: I was like,
40:49
SPEAKER_02: I almost went to the hospital that day because it hurts so bad
40:53
SPEAKER_02: and it didn't swell up or anything.
40:55
SPEAKER_02: So I was like, ah, fuck it.
40:56
SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
40:57
SPEAKER_02: But I mean,
40:57
SPEAKER_02: it's been two months or whatever and it still hurts like a motherfucker,
41:03
SPEAKER_02: but I don't think they do anything for that.
41:05
SPEAKER_02: Do they?
41:05
SPEAKER_02: Unless it's like, Completely falling apart.
41:08
SPEAKER_02: And then they go in and put up a brace or something on it.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
41:12
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what that could possibly do for your head.
41:14
SPEAKER_02: And that's why I'm just like, whatever, you know, whatever.
41:18
SPEAKER_02: It just hurts as long as I can see it's good,
41:21
SPEAKER_02: but it's like, man, Jack will take that fucking baby off the screen.
41:26
SPEAKER_02: No, I like the baby on the screen.
41:30
SPEAKER_02: You don't see it,
41:30
SPEAKER_02: but I made my, um,
41:33
SPEAKER_02: my background video is,
41:35
SPEAKER_02: um, Three old guys and a baby, which may or may not be Quiet Riot now.
41:48
SPEAKER_02: Just being goofy.
41:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
41:53
SPEAKER_02: Just being me.
41:55
SPEAKER_02: A lot of times I make a joke for myself.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't give a fuck if you guys get it or not.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: It makes me laugh.
42:02
SPEAKER_02: And this one made me laugh.
42:03
SPEAKER_02: So it's like, all right, well, there's the background for the show this week.
42:09
SPEAKER_01: Stop making the fans upset and uncomfortable.
42:13
SPEAKER_02: They're free to do their thing.
42:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: Well, speaking of that,
42:19
SPEAKER_01: I was scrolling through the old locals,
42:23
SPEAKER_01: and I see that you're still entertaining the haters out there with the commentary.
42:34
SPEAKER_01: The comments just keep on coming, don't they?
42:37
SPEAKER_01: What is it with people that the AI images just enrage them?
42:42
SPEAKER_01: What is that?
42:43
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
42:45
SPEAKER_01: To me, it looks kind of cool.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
42:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't find it to be offensive looking or stupid or anything.
42:53
SPEAKER_01: It's just, you know, it's just a thumbnail.
42:57
SPEAKER_00: And I just don't care.
42:59
SPEAKER_00: I don't...
43:00
SPEAKER_00: For everybody that bitches about it, I just continue to say, I'm not going to change it.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: Fuck you.
43:06
SPEAKER_00: But what is there to bitch about?
43:08
SPEAKER_00: Because all the fucking media,
43:10
SPEAKER_00: and again,
43:10
SPEAKER_00: you don't watch regular TV,
43:11
SPEAKER_00: so you're not seeing all the fucking shitbag
43:14
SPEAKER_02: political ads that are going
43:15
SPEAKER_02: on right now.
43:15
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
43:16
SPEAKER_02: But AI data centers is the number one issue politically right now.
43:21
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, that's made me a shit ton of money in the
43:24
SPEAKER_02: last couple of
43:25
SPEAKER_01: years.
43:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm sure.
43:27
SPEAKER_02: But it's all,
43:29
SPEAKER_02: like every hate ad is,
43:31
SPEAKER_00: John Husted, he's building AI data centers in your neighborhood.
43:37
SPEAKER_00: You'll never sleep again because they're so loud.
43:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's nonstop with this bullshit.
43:45
SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, I don't care.
43:49
SPEAKER_01: So is this the backlash against AI because you use an AI image
43:55
SPEAKER_01: so you're supporting AI or what is it?
43:58
SPEAKER_02: It's that and all these fucking libtard faggots are all on board of,
44:04
SPEAKER_02: well, you're taking jobs from people.
44:07
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's happening anyway.
44:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's going to be here.
44:12
SPEAKER_01: It's here.
44:13
SPEAKER_01: There's nothing you can do about it.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: Just because you choose not to...
44:18
SPEAKER_01: Use an AI image doesn't mean that you're going to slow down the chances
44:22
SPEAKER_01: of somebody snagging a job from AI.
44:25
SPEAKER_02: No.
44:27
SPEAKER_02: And I don't care.
44:28
SPEAKER_02: You know why I use it?
44:30
SPEAKER_02: Because it looks better than what I was doing before, and it saves me a shit ton of time.
44:36
SPEAKER_02: And if you want to say that makes me lazy, yes, I'm
44:39
SPEAKER_01: very lazy.
44:41
SPEAKER_01: I guess my point is,
44:43
SPEAKER_01: is who takes the time out of their day to write a comment about an AI image?
44:48
SPEAKER_01: Somebody that's not lazy.
44:51
SPEAKER_01: That's the whole thing.
44:52
SPEAKER_01: It's like you took the time out of your day to sit down at your keyboard
44:57
SPEAKER_01: and type out a comment about an AI image.
45:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:01
SPEAKER_02: Like you don't use AI in every other part of your life.
45:05
SPEAKER_02: That's the part that cracks me up.
45:09
SPEAKER_02: If you bank, they use AI.
45:12
SPEAKER_02: If you use Google Chrome, it has Gemini built into it.
45:16
SPEAKER_02: The new Macs, they just rolled out iOS 20 whatever on the phones or whatever.
45:22
SPEAKER_02: The main difference is now all the apps have AI built into them.
45:26
SPEAKER_02: It's here.
45:27
SPEAKER_02: It ain't going anywhere.
45:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry if you were a graphic artist at some point and your job has gone away.
45:34
SPEAKER_02: My fucking job as a web guy has pretty much gone away.
45:39
SPEAKER_02: You know, and AI killed that.
45:42
SPEAKER_02: You either adjust or you don't.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: And that's that.
45:46
SPEAKER_02: And Jim, you can whine and bitch about the fucking baby in the background all you want.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm not changing it.
45:52
SPEAKER_02: I will not change it tonight.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: Turn the show off.
45:55
SPEAKER_02: Listen on the audio.
45:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't give a fuck.
45:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm not turning it off.
46:00
SPEAKER_02: Whine all you want.
46:02
SPEAKER_02: Ain't going to come off.
46:06
SPEAKER_02: It's just not.
46:10
SPEAKER_02: I don't do this to please anybody but me.
46:13
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
46:14
SPEAKER_02: I do it so that I can learn things.
46:17
SPEAKER_02: That's the CMS and Neely,
46:19
SPEAKER_02: you know, this, the CMS for the last 25 fucking years has been my sandbox.
46:26
SPEAKER_02: It has.
46:27
SPEAKER_02: I use it to learn everything that then makes me money in other areas.
46:33
SPEAKER_02: And right now I use the CMS really hard with AI.
46:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:38
SPEAKER_01: It's your Guinea pig.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: It is.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: It gives me chances to do things and see if they work and see if they don't.
46:45
SPEAKER_02: And then I can take that skill and I can go and make money with it.
46:49
SPEAKER_02: And that's what I'm going to continue to do.
46:52
SPEAKER_02: And if the baby crying is bugging you, there's a dick you can suck.
46:56
SPEAKER_02: It's right here because I ain't changing it.
47:00
SPEAKER_02: That's me crying, bitch.
47:04
SPEAKER_01: It's too funny.
47:06
SPEAKER_01: Too funny.
47:07
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
47:11
SPEAKER_02: Are you trying to see it?
47:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I want to see it.
47:14
SPEAKER_01: Just look on Rumble.
47:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what I'm doing.
47:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at Rumble.
47:19
SPEAKER_01: All I see is Dave Landau.
47:21
SPEAKER_01: You got to refresh.
47:23
SPEAKER_01: Is that what I got to do?
47:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
47:25
SPEAKER_01: Let me do this here.
47:27
SPEAKER_01: What's next?
47:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, there it is.
47:29
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I see it.
47:31
SPEAKER_01: All right.
47:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so what?
47:34
SPEAKER_01: It's annoying.
47:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
47:37
SPEAKER_02: Don't watch then.
47:40
SPEAKER_02: See, that's the whole thing.
47:42
SPEAKER_02: There's some theme or theory that because somebody says something bad or mean
47:47
SPEAKER_02: or something, all of a sudden we're going to adjust to them.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: I've never adjusted to anybody in my entire life.
47:55
SPEAKER_02: Next week,
47:55
SPEAKER_02: since you guys are bitching about it,
47:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to make the most obnoxious,
47:59
SPEAKER_02: color-filled,
48:00
SPEAKER_02: blasting, explosive everything I can possibly make and make it that way.
48:05
SPEAKER_02: So it's really distracting, even way more than this.
48:09
SPEAKER_02: That'll be my gift to you.
48:11
SPEAKER_01: Well, even while we're talking, what exactly are you watching?
48:16
SPEAKER_01: You just watching me and Chris talking to Mike?
48:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's it.
48:21
SPEAKER_01: You're watching us sit here.
48:24
SPEAKER_01: Hey, I'm being observed.
48:26
SPEAKER_01: I feel like I'm a specimen in a test tube.
48:30
SPEAKER_01: Just sitting there watching me talk on a mic.
48:37
SPEAKER_02: You worried about the background?
48:42
SPEAKER_02: It's funny.
48:43
SPEAKER_02: I know.
48:44
SPEAKER_01: It's funny what affects people different ways.
48:47
SPEAKER_02: People whine about everything.
48:49
SPEAKER_02: I guess.
48:50
SPEAKER_02: About everything.
48:52
SPEAKER_02: There's nothing that you can do that is right.
48:54
SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
48:55
SPEAKER_02: So I don't even try to.
48:58
SPEAKER_02: And PC, you're full of shit.
48:59
SPEAKER_02: It's distracting from your devastating good looks.
49:02
SPEAKER_02: Now I know you're lying.
49:03
SPEAKER_02: That fucking baby screaming looks 10 times better than me.
49:11
SPEAKER_01: Real quick,
49:12
SPEAKER_01: since we're just talking about all kinds of things,
49:19
SPEAKER_01: what is your current status on watching football?
49:28
SPEAKER_02: I watch the Browns, but I think I might have just officially kind of quit on football.
49:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't care like I used to.
49:38
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SPEAKER_02: Like I used to be three games a Sunday and certainly the Monday and the Thursday and whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: And I don't know.
49:50
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49:51
SPEAKER_02: There was a game.
49:52
SPEAKER_02: It was the Falcons and the Packers or something.
49:56
SPEAKER_02: And I watched about a quarter of it.
49:58
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50:00
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50:03
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50:06
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51:29
SPEAKER_02: Why?
51:30
SPEAKER_01: I was just curious because, you know, I know we're already into, what, week three?
51:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:37
SPEAKER_01: I was just wondering if you were, you know, engaged with watching football.
51:43
SPEAKER_01: The only place that I've seen football is I saw a little bit at the sports bar
51:48
SPEAKER_01: in Indianapolis Sunday.
51:52
SPEAKER_01: And then I saw some at another restaurant the week before.
51:58
SPEAKER_01: And the only reason I saw it is because it was on.
52:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:02
SPEAKER_01: You know?
52:03
SPEAKER_01: Other than that,
52:03
SPEAKER_01: I haven't really paid attention to who's doing what,
52:06
SPEAKER_01: where, and all that other stuff.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: But being that you've always been such a diehard Browns fan,
52:13
SPEAKER_01: I was wondering what your take was on your Browns this year so far.
52:16
SPEAKER_02: Oh, they suck, and they're led by a rapist, and I just don't care.
52:21
SPEAKER_02: Tomorrow's the home opener, and they're...
52:25
SPEAKER_02: The whole week on all the sports talk here in Cleveland has been them trying
52:30
SPEAKER_02: to sell us on not booing Deshaun Watson,
52:33
SPEAKER_02: the quarterback,
52:34
SPEAKER_02: because like the last time when he played in the preseason,
52:38
SPEAKER_02: they booed the shit out of him.
52:40
SPEAKER_02: I mean, absolutely booed it.
52:42
SPEAKER_02: No one wants him here.
52:43
SPEAKER_02: He's a fucking terrible player and a rapist, so we don't want him here.
52:49
SPEAKER_02: And they're just trying to spin it every way they can.
52:52
SPEAKER_02: They had all the sports talk guys going,
52:54
SPEAKER_02: oh, you shouldn't boo the team just because you don't like the play.
52:57
SPEAKER_02: Like they went into spin mode this week and then they brought Nick Chubb back
53:02
SPEAKER_02: and had him sign a one-day contract this week so they can have him at the intro of
53:06
SPEAKER_02: the game so that hopefully the people won't boo when Nick Chubb is out there
53:10
SPEAKER_02: because he's a local hero.
53:13
SPEAKER_02: It's like they're trying so hard and I am praying to God it turns into Bottlegate tomorrow.
53:19
SPEAKER_02: I hope that when Watson walks out on that field,
53:21
SPEAKER_02: people are throwing beer bottles and beers and food and nachos on his ass.
53:27
SPEAKER_02: Fuck him.
53:28
SPEAKER_02: I do hope that's what happens tomorrow.
53:31
SPEAKER_01: And what happened to that Sanders kid?
53:33
SPEAKER_02: He's on the bench.
53:35
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
53:35
SPEAKER_02: He's the guy everybody wants to play, but they won't play him.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: They have more of a chance to win with this guy, allegedly, please.
53:45
SPEAKER_01: And where did this guy come from?
53:48
SPEAKER_02: They traded and gave up the farm for him, and it wrecked the team.
53:53
SPEAKER_02: Four, what,
53:54
SPEAKER_02: five years ago,
53:55
SPEAKER_02: they traded with the Texans,
53:57
SPEAKER_02: gave up three number ones and then some other picks,
54:00
SPEAKER_02: and gave him $230 million guaranteed.
54:04
SPEAKER_02: And in four years, he played in 19 total games.
54:09
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
54:09
SPEAKER_02: 19.
54:10
SPEAKER_02: He's been hurt, tore his Achilles twice, wrecked his shoulder.
54:15
SPEAKER_02: The first year he was suspended most of the year because of trying to get hand jobs
54:22
SPEAKER_02: from fucking masseuses.
54:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's why.
54:26
SPEAKER_02: He was under investigation and was like in criminal court most of
54:29
SPEAKER_02: the year settling issues with masseuses that he was flying into Houston
54:34
SPEAKER_02: to jerk him off.
54:38
SPEAKER_01: He wasn't trolling for trailer park prostitutes over in Ohio, was he?
54:45
SPEAKER_02: Wouldn't that have been something if he was, like the 49ers traded for him or something?
54:49
SPEAKER_02: That'd be great.
54:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that'd be great.
54:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, we got something in common.
54:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:54
SPEAKER_01: We know the same people.
54:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we know where all the hotspots are.
54:58
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
54:59
SPEAKER_01: He's probably been to that trailer park,
55:00
SPEAKER_02: if I had to guess.
55:04
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, he just, he's, you know me, I have very little moral standing on anything.
55:11
SPEAKER_02: Just win.
55:12
SPEAKER_02: But he doesn't win, so I hate him.
55:15
SPEAKER_02: If he was a winning player, I'd be like, fine, I don't care.
55:19
SPEAKER_02: Go get some more hand jobs for all the fuck I care.
55:21
SPEAKER_02: Just win.
55:22
SPEAKER_02: But he doesn't win, so fuck him.
55:24
SPEAKER_02: I want him out of my city.
55:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's a piece of shit.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: It's that simple.
55:30
SPEAKER_01: All right.
55:32
SPEAKER_01: I will have to just take your word for it.
55:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm not a fan, not
55:37
SPEAKER_02: a fan.
55:37
SPEAKER_01: So, and we'll wrap up here since you follow this and I do not,
55:42
SPEAKER_01: but I just have a very mild interest in it.
55:45
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
55:45
SPEAKER_01: So what has been the fallout from this Jed York fella?
55:53
SPEAKER_02: That story went super quiet, super quick.
55:56
SPEAKER_02: That guy has enough money to make that story kind of go away.
55:59
SPEAKER_01: All right.
56:00
SPEAKER_02: I haven't heard shit about that story since we covered it.
56:03
SPEAKER_02: It just went away.
56:04
SPEAKER_01: All right.
56:05
SPEAKER_01: Well, Perry Ringo, our diehard fan, he had sent an email in.
56:12
SPEAKER_01: He said that Jed York is the son of Denise DiBartolo York.
56:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
56:20
SPEAKER_01: So original ownership.
56:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I was like, well, that's where the DiBartolos are from.
56:25
SPEAKER_01: Right.
56:26
SPEAKER_01: So he cleared it up for me.
56:28
SPEAKER_01: He said, well, he's the son of Denise DiBartolo York.
56:31
SPEAKER_01: Right.
56:32
SPEAKER_02: That's also where the money to be a billionaire came from.
56:35
SPEAKER_02: Right, exactly.
56:36
SPEAKER_01: From an inheritance.
56:38
SPEAKER_01: But yet you're trolling, looking for Craigslist pussy.
56:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, in a trailer park.
56:48
SPEAKER_01: That has got to be the lowest.
56:50
SPEAKER_01: I mean, a guy with that kind of scratch.
56:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
56:56
SPEAKER_01: Looking for Eastern Ohio trailer park pussy is just like, what the fuck?
57:03
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he could afford and should afford.
57:08
SPEAKER_02: If you have billions of dollars,
57:09
SPEAKER_02: why wouldn't you buy a $5,000 a night really high-end escort
57:14
SPEAKER_02: that looks like Sidney Sweeney and fucks like a porn star?
57:19
SPEAKER_02: Why wouldn't you do that?
57:20
SPEAKER_02: Why instead are you looking for fucking someone named Selma that fucking has
57:26
SPEAKER_02: a double wide with half of it curtained off so that they can cook meth?
57:30
SPEAKER_02: What the fuck is she doing?
57:32
SPEAKER_02: Or he doing.
57:34
SPEAKER_02: Right.
57:35
SPEAKER_02: It's like, come on.
57:37
SPEAKER_01: All right.
57:37
SPEAKER_01: Well, I just wanted to know if you had any updates on that.
57:41
SPEAKER_01: No, I have not
57:42
SPEAKER_02: heard anything.
57:43
SPEAKER_01: Apparently, they were able to sweep that under the rug pretty quickly.
57:46
SPEAKER_01: It went quiet.
57:47
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
57:48
SPEAKER_01: How about that?
57:50
SPEAKER_01: All right.
57:50
SPEAKER_01: Well, I think that will conclude this action-packed segment.
57:56
SPEAKER_01: All right.
57:56
SPEAKER_01: Baby crying and all.
58:00
SPEAKER_01: All right.
58:00
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm going to get into the tunes here.
58:02
SPEAKER_01: Of course,
58:02
SPEAKER_01: I picked your music from the people who support the Classic Metal Show
58:07
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58:12
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58:18
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58:25
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58:27
SPEAKER_01: There's all kinds of perks that go along with that.
58:30
SPEAKER_01: And one of the perks on a Saturday night, you get to pick a tune.
58:34
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
58:35
SPEAKER_01: And we'll be running down the music throughout the evening as Chris processes
58:40
SPEAKER_01: the video that you just all wait for so patiently.
58:44
SPEAKER_02: That y'all just whined about for 40 minutes about the baby.
58:48
SPEAKER_01: But that's what we're going to do.
58:50
SPEAKER_01: We're going to jump into the tunes and I will let Mr. Akin lead off with the tunes.
58:55
SPEAKER_01: So what shall we play?
58:58
SPEAKER_02: I would like to hear the song Reincarnation by the band Sodom from the Tapping the Vein album.
59:05
SPEAKER_02: I've just been in a real heavy old school mode this whole week.
59:12
SPEAKER_02: Toomey's out on the road with Primer 55 and I guess they played a show where it was,
59:18
SPEAKER_02: it's kind of like the Agora where there's like two shows going in the same place,
59:22
SPEAKER_02: just one room and then another room.
59:24
SPEAKER_02: And he was sending me some pictures and some video of Jungle Rot was playing in the other room.
59:30
SPEAKER_02: Like Primer 55 was in one room and then Jungle Rot was in the other room.
59:35
SPEAKER_02: And that just immediately was like, oh, I got to go listen to them.
59:38
SPEAKER_02: And so I started listening to them.
59:39
SPEAKER_02: And then that led to Obituary and Sodom and Creator.
59:43
SPEAKER_02: And I just sort of found my way into the heavy old school this week.
59:49
SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
59:50
SPEAKER_01: All right, well, we're going to get into some tunes.
59:52
SPEAKER_01: So here's Sodom with Reincarnation exclusively here.
59:58
SPEAKER_01: On your classic metal show.
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[music]
1:00:13
SPEAKER_03: New York's heavy metal titans are back.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_03: After 10 years, Anthrax unleashes their 12th studio album, Curse Em Perficio, September 18th.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_03: This is the sound of legends completing their journey.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_03: Curse Em Perficio, my journey is over.
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SPEAKER_03: First single, It's For The Kids, is a buzzsaw riff monster.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_03: Explosive drums, howling hooks, and pure Anthrax destruction.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_03: Scott Ian,
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SPEAKER_03: Anthrax, Cursem Proficio, September 18th.
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SPEAKER_03: This is the one you've been waiting for.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_03: Hey, this is Jim Florenton and you're watching CMS TV.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_01: Some new anthrax in there with Everybody's Got a Plan for John Phillips
1:01:26
SPEAKER_01: and some classic anthrax in there with Be All End All for Floyd Gundoli.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_01: And kicking off that block, we heard Sodom with Reincarnation for Chris.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_01: So good block, a classic metal right there for you.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_01: That was metal, baby.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_01: That was.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_01: That's good stuff.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_01: Some Sodom Anthrax Judas Priest Testament.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_01: All the classic bands.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_01: All the goodies.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_01: Never to be repeated again.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_02: Definitely not.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_01: That is a space and time in our world history that we will never have such
1:02:06
SPEAKER_01: a grouping of great metal bands.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_01: No, probably not.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_01: Of the same era and of the same ilk.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_02: Certainly not of the same heights as well.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's a lot of great bands out there today.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_02: And I definitely, as I've made very clear, I'm a big fan of kind of the 2000s-y stuff.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_02: But yeah,
1:02:28
SPEAKER_02: none of them,
1:02:29
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:02:29
SPEAKER_02: the biggest bands of that era,
1:02:31
SPEAKER_02: like Killswitch and Gage or whatever,
1:02:32
SPEAKER_02: they're nowhere near Metallica, Megadeth, you know, Anthrax, Slayer, none of that.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, they're not even in the same ballpark.
1:02:44
SPEAKER_01: Well, what surprises me,
1:02:46
SPEAKER_01: and we've talked about this before,
1:02:48
SPEAKER_01: is when some of these bands put out new material, it's a strong material.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_01: And the unfortunate part is because there isn't really much of
1:02:59
SPEAKER_01: a promotional system out there to push it into our mind as being a great album or
1:03:07
SPEAKER_01: a great song or whatever the case may be.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_01: A lot of it gets overlooked,
1:03:11
SPEAKER_01: and it's just like,
1:03:13
SPEAKER_01: A lot of the stuff that these bands have released
1:03:16
SPEAKER_01: in their later years have been stronger than their early material.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_02: Give me an example.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to think of one that's stronger than the earlier stuff.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_01: Well, what I'm trying to say is from a sonic standpoint and from maybe
1:03:34
SPEAKER_01: a lyrical standpoint or,
1:03:37
SPEAKER_01: you know, a production standpoint, you know, it's strong material.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_01: But the reason it doesn't resonate or doesn't stick with you is because it didn't.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_01: Let's just reverse the situation.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_01: If the classic material got released later and today's material was the stuff
1:04:00
SPEAKER_01: that we learned about the bands from, would the script be flipped?
1:04:08
SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_00: That's interesting.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_01: The reason you have such affection for the early stuff is because that's what you grew up on.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_01: But if the stuff that they're doing today was the stuff that you learned about
1:04:23
SPEAKER_01: the band from, would that be the stuff?
1:04:26
SPEAKER_01: And then would the older stuff say they released the older stuff later?
1:04:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think you almost have to go band by band with that.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I agree.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_02: As an example,
1:04:37
SPEAKER_02: I would think if we had The Anthrax stuff now,
1:04:42
SPEAKER_02: like then,
1:04:45
SPEAKER_02: they might have become a bigger band because while they're still really kind
1:04:49
SPEAKER_02: of doing what Anthrax always does,
1:04:52
SPEAKER_02: it's a little more accessible and it sounds a little better.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_02: So, you know,
1:04:56
SPEAKER_02: these last three records,
1:04:58
SPEAKER_02: including the newest one,
1:05:00
SPEAKER_02: Curse Imperficio, yeah, maybe that, but certainly Metallica, no.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, if the first three records were Death Magnetic.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I'll agree with that assessment when it comes to Metallica.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think, and like Slayer, Slayer, no way.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_02: I mean, those songs are so just damn good.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_02: You know, there's no real way around that.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_02: They were writing better songs at that point in their life.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_02: I think, yeah, it could be band to band.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_02: I mean, even Dokken, for God's sakes.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_02: I don't think the Broken Bones and Lightning Strikes Again and what's the current one?
1:05:46
SPEAKER_02: Heaven Comes Down.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't think those are as strong as Breaking the Chains, Under Lock and Key and...
1:05:56
SPEAKER_02: Tooth and Nail, not even close song-wise.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, somebody, Rhett said, the new Anthrax is dull as fuck.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, man.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_02: It's funny, John hit me up with it.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_02: Me and John always talk Anthrax.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_02: We're both huge fans.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_02: And he said to me,
1:06:14
SPEAKER_02: and I'm interested in what you think of this too,
1:06:17
SPEAKER_02: because this is a really interesting take.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_02: His take is, worst album of their career.
1:06:27
SPEAKER_02: And that's an interesting,
1:06:28
SPEAKER_02: when you really think about it,
1:06:31
SPEAKER_02: it might be the worst album of their career, but it's still pretty good.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_02: It's not horrible.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't agree with, um, wretch that it's boring.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_02: I, I like pretty much everything I've, it's old.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_02: It's old school is what it is.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_02: It's very old school, but, um,
1:06:49
SPEAKER_02: I don't know,
1:06:50
SPEAKER_02: but, but there is a part of me that's, you know, the only one that comes to mind.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:06:56
SPEAKER_02: in Natalie style is, um, yeah,
1:06:59
SPEAKER_02: is maybe volume eight, which I liked personally, but you know, what else is worse?
1:07:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_01: I remember,
1:07:08
SPEAKER_01: I remember you and Matt Wardlaw were having that debate about volume eight
1:07:13
SPEAKER_01: and stomp four, four, two.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_02: I love stomp.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_02: Now stomp is great.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_02: To me, stomp might be, Might be my favorite Anthrax album of them all.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_02: Really?
1:07:25
SPEAKER_02: I love Stomp, man.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_01: No kidding.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_02: That's such a great record.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm in a zone.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_02: I'm in a zone.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_02: That's such a fucking good song.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm the book and Bush guy.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_01: I like the sound of white noise, and we've come for you all.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_02: Great record.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_02: I like all the Bush stuff, really.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_02: I love all that stuff, and I love the stuff that they've done with Joey.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_02: I mean, my least favorite in the Anthrax catalog is,
1:07:57
SPEAKER_02: you know, gets me a lot of shit because a lot of people love it.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_02: But my least favorite is State of Euphoria.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_02: I just found it to be kind of silly.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, for lack of a better word, I found it to be silly.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_02: I didn't think the tour was very good.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, for me, that would be the worst.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_02: But I'm the man, Floyd, that was not an album.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_02: That was an EP.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_02: We're talking albums here.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_02: It's a hard one with Anthrax because they've been pretty darn consistent, really.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_02: I mean, maybe Metal Thrash and Mad,
1:08:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't think any of us listen to it enough to really have a strong,
1:08:35
SPEAKER_02: strong opinion on that.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_02: Or certainly we don't go back to it the way we would go back to, you know, Among the Living.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_02: You know, you don't go to that Neil Turbin record.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_02: You just start with Joey.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, I think for most people, so.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_02: Fistful metal.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, fistful metal.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, I don't know.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
1:09:00
SPEAKER_02: Do you think this new one is the worst?
1:09:03
SPEAKER_02: I like it.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_01: I mean, is it as strong as some of their other stuff?
1:09:07
SPEAKER_01: No, but I think Worship Music and For All Kings, I thought those were really.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, those were great.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_01: Those were brutal albums.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_01: I mean, shockingly brutal albums that, you know.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_01: Just, just was a, just a whole different dimension for Anthrax.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_02: You know, I talked to, um, London May.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_02: He's a, he's an actor and he's a drummer in that band with Danzig, Sam Hain or Sal Wynne.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_01: Sam Hain.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:09:37
SPEAKER_02: I made the mistake of calling it Sal Wynne,
1:09:39
SPEAKER_02: which is how the word is actually pronounced,
1:09:41
SPEAKER_02: even though it is S A M H A I N the, the correct pronunciation is Sal Wynne.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_02: Which I've been corrected for a million times for calling it Sam Hain.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_02: Because I used to call it Sam Hain.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_02: I didn't know.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_02: S-A-M-H-A-I-N.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_01: In fact, speaking of the warlock, he used to say that on the metal show.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, I had no idea.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_02: So I interviewed this guy, London May.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_02: He's the drummer for that band.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_02: And he's also the actor.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_02: If you saw the current Anthrax video,
1:10:14
SPEAKER_02: he's the actor that gets dragged with the chains and dragged through the mud
1:10:18
SPEAKER_02: and everything.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_02: Like he's the main actor in the video.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_02: And that's what I was talking to him about was that video.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_02: And, and, but of course we went into, you know, Danzig and that kind of stuff as well.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_02: And at the beginning of the show, I called it sow sow in, which is how you pronounce the word.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_02: And of course, then when he started talking, now he's in the band.
1:10:41
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
1:10:41
SPEAKER_02: And when he started talking about it, he's calling it Sam Hain.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, all right, well, I guess we'll call it Sam Hain then.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_02: It's like, God damn it.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
1:10:50
SPEAKER_00: that's pretty funny.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_02: But, you know,
1:10:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm like,
1:10:54
SPEAKER_02: I know how the word is supposed to be pronounced,
1:10:56
SPEAKER_02: but if the guy in the band calls it this, then I guess that's what it is.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
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1:11:33
SPEAKER_02: But yeah,
1:11:34
SPEAKER_02: that was a good interview,
1:11:34
SPEAKER_02: by the way,
1:11:35
SPEAKER_02: of people,
1:11:36
SPEAKER_02: not to plug my own bullshit,
1:11:37
SPEAKER_02: but whenever that one does hit, and for you locals people, it's already out there.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_02: That was a really cool talk.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_02: We barely talked about music.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_02: We just talked a ton about acting and how acting works and whatever.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to do,
1:11:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to do a Chris Aiken Presents with him at some point,
1:11:55
SPEAKER_02: me, him, and maybe like Drew, Drew Fortier.
1:11:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:11:59
SPEAKER_02: And we're just going to talk acting because you know my passion for that shit.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_02: So, you know,
1:12:06
SPEAKER_02: and to talk to guys that are actually doing it professionally,
1:12:09
SPEAKER_02: that would be really fun for me.
1:12:11
SPEAKER_02: So.
1:12:12
SPEAKER_02: Maybe everybody else won't give a fuck, but I will give a fuck.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_02: I will enjoy it.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_02: And ultimately that's what I do these things for is for my enjoyment.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_01: Well, you did make the Chulies gum guy happen on the show.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_01: I did.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_02: Now that's acting.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_02: That guy was acting.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_02: That guy was great.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_02: And we had first Jason on, didn't we have him on here?
1:12:39
SPEAKER_01: No, we didn't have him on here.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_02: And I had him on something.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't even, I don't even remember where these things go anymore, but he was fun too.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, Jackal, the guy's name is London May.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_02: That's his name.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_02: And if you look up the Anthrax video, Curse Em Perficio, the song, that's him.
1:13:01
SPEAKER_02: He's the guy that's wrapped up in the chains, getting brutalized.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_02: It's funny.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_02: He said that He sent his family some pictures from the video
1:13:11
SPEAKER_02: and his family thought his family was like worried about him and stuff
1:13:14
SPEAKER_02: because he really is getting a beating in this thing.
1:13:19
SPEAKER_01: He got kidnapped and he's being held hostage.
1:13:23
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_02: Good guy though.
1:13:25
SPEAKER_02: Really, really interesting to talk.
1:13:28
SPEAKER_02: Although typical Hollywood guy said, I would rather punch a man than a tree.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_02: He was all about, I could never, somehow we got into talking about animals.
1:13:45
SPEAKER_02: And he was talking about how one of the parts or something was that he had
1:13:49
SPEAKER_02: to be mean to an animal and he didn't think he could do that.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_02: And so I engaged that.
1:13:56
SPEAKER_02: I was like, well, what about this?
1:13:58
SPEAKER_02: And what about that?
1:13:59
SPEAKER_02: And What if you didn't write the part?
1:14:01
SPEAKER_02: What if somebody else wrote it for you?
1:14:03
SPEAKER_02: And it's the paying gig is to be mean to a dog or something.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_02: He's like, I might have to turn down the part.
1:14:08
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, oh, all right.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_02: Me, I'd be giving that dog a football kick to its ribs.
1:14:13
SPEAKER_02: Whatever.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_02: Just pay me.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_01: Your Chester's liver.
1:14:18
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_01: Too good.
1:14:26
SPEAKER_01: Well, the unfortunate news this week was the passing of Angry Anderson.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_02: Dude, this bummed me out so bad.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_02: It really did.
1:14:36
SPEAKER_02: I didn't think that this would affect me the way it did, but I was really, for a couple reasons.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_02: Obviously,
1:14:45
SPEAKER_02: the one,
1:14:45
SPEAKER_02: and I don't know if you have it ready to go or if you want to play it,
1:14:48
SPEAKER_02: but is the clip that he did with me and you.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:14:54
SPEAKER_02: naming me as Angry Akin, which,
1:14:57
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:14:58
SPEAKER_02: is still,
1:14:59
SPEAKER_02: it was then,
1:14:59
SPEAKER_02: I said it then,
1:15:00
SPEAKER_02: I'll say it to this day,
1:15:02
SPEAKER_02: was one of the honors of my life,
1:15:04
SPEAKER_02: even though it was a joke, even though it was just us goofing around.
1:15:09
SPEAKER_02: It was such,
1:15:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm such a fan of Rose Tattoo that for him to kind of ignite me
1:15:17
SPEAKER_02: into his world was like one of the biggest things of all time in my life.
1:15:22
SPEAKER_02: And I love that.
1:15:24
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if you remember this or not.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_02: You probably don't.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_02: But do you remember that I had tickets to go see Rose Tattoo with COVID?
1:15:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you were supposed to see him in Columbus.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, at that Ace of Cups or whatever that club is called.
1:15:40
SPEAKER_02: And I didn't get to go because of fucking COVID,
1:15:44
SPEAKER_02: which basically robbed me of my chance to see Angry.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_02: You know, because now he's gone.
1:15:49
SPEAKER_02: And it's like, man, that just sucks.
1:15:53
SPEAKER_02: It just,
1:15:54
SPEAKER_02: and just,
1:15:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't know,
1:15:56
SPEAKER_02: I listened to,
1:15:57
SPEAKER_02: my favorite album from them is one of the more recent albums called Blood Brothers.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_02: And I listened back to that this week a few times,
1:16:05
SPEAKER_02: like three or four different times,
1:16:07
SPEAKER_02: just songs like Once in a Lifetime and Black Eyed Bruiser and stuff are so good.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_02: And it was so late in his career that he was still really good.
1:16:18
SPEAKER_02: And it's just like, This is a hard one.
1:16:21
SPEAKER_02: It definitely bummed me out.
1:16:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm still kind of bummed out about it.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I guess he got it all in.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_02: He was, what, 79?
1:16:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, just a bummer, man.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_02: I hate that, man.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_02: I just hate it.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_01: Well, Chris and I had the opportunity to interview Angry Anderson,
1:16:43
SPEAKER_01: and I think it was for the album you were talking about, right?
1:16:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for Blood Brothers.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was 2009, believe it or not.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, we had an opportunity to chat it up with him.
1:16:55
SPEAKER_01: And unbeknownst to Chris, Chris, you know, had this reputation of being angry all the time.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_01: Angry Akin.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_01: In fact, I own the domain name that we thought someday we might do something with it.
1:17:11
SPEAKER_01: But we have angryaken.com.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:17:16
SPEAKER_01: And so we were thinking that,
1:17:19
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:17:19
SPEAKER_01: somewhere down the road, Uh,
1:17:21
SPEAKER_01: we would, uh,
1:17:22
SPEAKER_01: make something of the angry Akin thing that he played because,
1:17:27
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:17:27
SPEAKER_01: this was prior to divorce and, uh,
1:17:31
SPEAKER_01: living a miserable existence and just,
1:17:34
SPEAKER_01: you know, using the CMS as a, as his platform for rage.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:17:39
SPEAKER_01: And, uh,
1:17:40
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:17:40
SPEAKER_01: so we were interviewing angry, uh,
1:17:43
SPEAKER_01: Anderson and, um,
1:17:46
SPEAKER_01: It just hit me,
1:17:47
SPEAKER_01: well, who better to knight Chris Aiken as Angry Aiken than Angry Anderson himself?
1:17:54
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_01: And just out of the blue,
1:17:56
SPEAKER_01: I just thought,
1:17:58
SPEAKER_01: I said, Angry, I said, Chris has been known to be an angry guy himself.
1:18:04
SPEAKER_01: In fact, here on the show, he's known as Angry Aiken.
1:18:08
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:18:09
SPEAKER_01: And I was wondering if you could perhaps officially knight him as Angry Aiken.
1:18:14
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_02: And I'm going to interrupt you here.
1:18:18
SPEAKER_02: When you're saying all this,
1:18:19
SPEAKER_02: I'm sitting over here just before we had video or anything,
1:18:22
SPEAKER_02: so I couldn't see what you were doing.
1:18:25
SPEAKER_02: And I had no idea what was going on.
1:18:26
SPEAKER_02: I was like, what the fuck is going on?
1:18:28
SPEAKER_02: I thought you lost your mind or something.
1:18:31
SPEAKER_01: No, it was not pre-planned.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_01: It just hit me at that moment.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_01: I was like, well, what's the opportunity we're going to have?
1:18:40
SPEAKER_01: And he played along with it.
1:18:42
SPEAKER_01: He rolled right with it.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_01: So here's Angry Anderson knighting Chris Akin as Angry Akin.
1:18:52
SPEAKER_01: The Dark Prince.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_01: The Dark Prince.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
1:18:56
Chris...
1:19:00
[music]
1:19:14
SPEAKER_03: Chris Aiken, kneel as Chris Aiken.
1:19:17
SPEAKER_03: When you arise, you will be the dark prince of disorder, the dark prince of chaos.
1:19:24
SPEAKER_03: I dub thee, Chris Aiken, angry, the dark prince.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_01: You may rise now.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_02: That's so good.
1:19:41
SPEAKER_02: It's one of my favorite clips ever.
1:19:45
SPEAKER_02: It was just so goofy but fun, and, you know, it just was great.
1:19:49
SPEAKER_02: And he just was such a nice dude, you know.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_02: So I'm definitely upset about this one, man.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_02: It really—with
1:20:00
SPEAKER_02: each passing guy, it really hammers home how— Gone our era is, doesn't it?
1:20:07
SPEAKER_02: It does.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_01: It does.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_01: And, you know,
1:20:10
SPEAKER_01: just knowing that,
1:20:12
SPEAKER_01: you know, he's,
1:20:14
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:20:15
SPEAKER_01: known in the world as Angry Anderson and Rose Tattoo,
1:20:19
SPEAKER_01: but yet he had a career as a politician.
1:20:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_01: Strangely enough.
1:20:25
SPEAKER_00: He did a lot of stuff.
1:20:26
SPEAKER_00: Politician, actor.
1:20:27
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
1:20:29
SPEAKER_00: You know,
1:20:30
SPEAKER_00: Shelly was,
1:20:30
SPEAKER_00: she shared something in the locals chat
1:20:32
SPEAKER_02: about a, um,
1:20:34
SPEAKER_02: He did some Australian TV show where he was like a,
1:20:38
SPEAKER_02: you know, like a true, like a lead or something in a show.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_02: And it's like, wow, who would have ever thought?
1:20:44
SPEAKER_02: And he didn't look the part.
1:20:46
SPEAKER_02: I mean, when you look at him, you'd never think, oh, that guy's an actor.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_02: You wouldn't think that, but must have been good at it.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_02: Just a good dude and was nice and, you know, knighted me, which made me feel good, so.
1:21:02
SPEAKER_01: Didn't he make the joke when we talked to him that he says,
1:21:05
SPEAKER_01: no, I'm not the guy from Midnight Oil?
1:21:08
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:21:11
SPEAKER_02: Yes, he did.
1:21:13
SPEAKER_01: That was not me and Diesel and Dust.
1:21:15
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was a good dude, man.
1:21:21
SPEAKER_02: Sorry to see him go.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_01: So he wasn't, again, I did not read all the press and everything, but...
1:21:30
SPEAKER_01: Was he ill at all, or he just passed away?
1:21:33
SPEAKER_00: No, he had had a heart attack.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_02: And he was in the hospital, and I guess he didn't recover from it fully.
1:21:42
SPEAKER_02: You know, that's the scariest thing about the heart.
1:21:46
SPEAKER_02: Again, not to bring it back to myself, but I am going to in this case.
1:21:50
SPEAKER_02: It's one of the reasons I'm trying my damnedest to fix my own shit.
1:21:55
SPEAKER_02: Because, like, to be here one day and two seconds later have a fucking...
1:21:59
SPEAKER_02: Stroke or heart attack or something.
1:22:02
SPEAKER_01: That's scary, man.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_01: Make sure you take your extra virgin olive oil daily.
1:22:07
SPEAKER_01: I take two tablespoons a day myself every day.
1:22:12
SPEAKER_02: I can't do the olive oil.
1:22:14
SPEAKER_02: I got to find some other supplement for it.
1:22:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm allergic to olives.
1:22:17
SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
1:22:18
SPEAKER_01: No kidding.
1:22:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can't do those.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm the worst, too.
1:22:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm a fat tub of shit as well,
1:22:26
SPEAKER_02: so if somebody brings a pizza and it's got olives on it,
1:22:28
SPEAKER_02: even though I'm allergic to it, I might eat it.
1:22:30
SPEAKER_02: And I feel my throat getting all... Really?
1:22:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm kidding.
1:22:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's not good.
1:22:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't eat olives at all.
1:22:38
SPEAKER_02: I don't like the taste either.
1:22:39
SPEAKER_01: I don't either.
1:22:40
SPEAKER_01: I don't like the taste of olives,
1:22:43
SPEAKER_01: but olive oil,
1:22:45
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:22:45
SPEAKER_01: taking a tablespoon of that, it doesn't have much flavor really of anything.
1:22:51
SPEAKER_02: It would probably close my throat right to nothing in no time.
1:22:56
SPEAKER_01: The thing that you were using for your heart is what choked you out.
1:22:59
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:23:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but as far as angry goes, man, rest in peace, brother.
1:23:06
SPEAKER_02: Sad to see you go.
1:23:07
SPEAKER_02: I really, really personally am bummed to see him just, you know, and I mean, he got it all in.
1:23:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm a big believer.
1:23:15
SPEAKER_02: You got it in at 70 and you were still active like he was.
1:23:18
SPEAKER_02: He got it all in.
1:23:20
SPEAKER_02: And he didn't have to do the last five.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:23:24
SPEAKER_02: How do you feel about this?
1:23:26
SPEAKER_02: Do you want to stay alive to be as old as you could possibly be?
1:23:33
SPEAKER_02: Are you okay to knock off, let's say, 20 years?
1:23:38
SPEAKER_02: So instead of going to 90, you go to 70.
1:23:41
SPEAKER_02: But you don't fall apart.
1:23:43
SPEAKER_02: I think I'm okay with it.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_02: I'll be 58 next month.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_02: If I can get 12 more years,
1:23:50
SPEAKER_02: which is a pipe dream,
1:23:51
SPEAKER_02: but if I can get 12 more years and not be walking around with a walker and blind
1:23:59
SPEAKER_02: and not being able to hear and all that bullshit, I think I'd be okay.
1:24:04
SPEAKER_02: I think I'd be okay with dropping off at 70.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_02: Versus becoming, again, I always use the same reference.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_02: It's like every old reference is Uncle June sitting there facing the wall at the end.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to do that.
1:24:18
SPEAKER_02: I would rather do anything but that.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_01: The quality of life has gone at that point.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:24:23
SPEAKER_02: Which, if it starts to go to that level where I can't even watch TV,
1:24:28
SPEAKER_02: little stupid things that I enjoy, then I just don't want to be here anymore.
1:24:32
SPEAKER_02: I'd rather die younger, but...
1:24:37
SPEAKER_02: If I died tomorrow, I got it all in.
1:24:39
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you, the fans, everybody knows my life pretty well.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_02: I lived a pretty wild life.
1:24:44
SPEAKER_02: I got 100 years in.
1:24:46
SPEAKER_02: I just did it.
1:24:47
SPEAKER_02: I just did it in a shorter period of time.
1:24:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, man.
1:24:53
SPEAKER_02: 90 scares me to death.
1:24:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm watching my mom,
1:24:56
SPEAKER_02: who's been healthy her whole life,
1:24:58
SPEAKER_02: and she just turned 78,
1:24:59
SPEAKER_02: and she's having multiple back surgeries and some kind of shit with her throat.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, I'm just watching her fucking fall apart.
1:25:07
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I don't want that at all.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_02: You know, I just don't want that.
1:25:12
SPEAKER_01: That just sucks.
1:25:13
SPEAKER_01: I don't blame him.
1:25:14
SPEAKER_01: Well, as you're well aware, my dad is 97.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:25:18
SPEAKER_01: And, you know,
1:25:20
SPEAKER_01: as far as any, you know, major health issues, he doesn't have any that I'm aware of.
1:25:26
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
1:25:26
SPEAKER_01: You know, he obviously has a little bit of issue with being steady on his feet all the time.
1:25:33
SPEAKER_01: But he still gets up and tools around the house and, you know.
1:25:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, does his garden or whatever he does, you know.
1:25:42
SPEAKER_01: You know, that kind of stuff at 97, that's pretty good, you know.
1:25:48
SPEAKER_01: But, you know, even he questions, you know, I'm not sure why I'm still here.
1:25:53
SPEAKER_01: You know,
1:25:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm not positive why I'm still here,
1:25:57
SPEAKER_01: but as long as I'm here, I'll do the best I can with what I have.
1:26:02
SPEAKER_02: PC in the chat room.
1:26:03
SPEAKER_02: Too late.
1:26:03
SPEAKER_02: You've already fallen apart.
1:26:06
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm trying to fix that, PC.
1:26:09
SPEAKER_00: I believe there's still time.
1:26:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:26:13
SPEAKER_01: Fix what you can.
1:26:14
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
1:26:15
SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm doing.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that aging.
1:26:20
SPEAKER_01: I feel very fortunate that I have not felt any ravages of aging in any way.
1:26:27
SPEAKER_01: I don't have any aches or pains or joint issues or You know,
1:26:31
SPEAKER_01: any problems of any kind that I'm,
1:26:34
SPEAKER_01: you know, that, that I wake up and go, Oh my God, I got to get out of bed.
1:26:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:26:41
SPEAKER_02: Nothing like that.
1:26:42
SPEAKER_02: You have the, you have the absolute blessing of being responsible when you were young.
1:26:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's true.
1:26:51
SPEAKER_02: Because you didn't drug, you didn't really drink.
1:26:55
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
1:26:55
SPEAKER_02: You didn't fight.
1:26:57
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
1:26:58
SPEAKER_02: You didn't chase just any strange pussy you could.
1:27:00
SPEAKER_02: Like all the different things that are,
1:27:03
SPEAKER_02: you know, I mean, I look at it now and I wouldn't trade any of it.
1:27:06
SPEAKER_02: I ain't going to lie.
1:27:07
SPEAKER_02: I did all those things and I wouldn't trade a minute of any of it.
1:27:13
SPEAKER_02: Honestly, even when I got in trouble doing that shit, I wouldn't trade any of it.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_02: But I'm starting to pay for it.
1:27:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm absolutely starting.
1:27:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm amazed.
1:27:23
SPEAKER_02: Like one of the things when I went to the doctor and they did all the blood work,
1:27:28
SPEAKER_02: You know, they gave me my liver thing.
1:27:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, what is that test?
1:27:33
SPEAKER_02: The liver enzymes or something?
1:27:34
SPEAKER_01: That's the enzymes, yeah.
1:27:36
SPEAKER_02: And mine was normal.
1:27:39
SPEAKER_02: And I was stunned by that because I know how much drinking and drugging I did back in the day.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean,
1:27:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't do it now and maybe it does regenerate to some level and I really don't.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_01: It does rejuvenate.
1:27:54
SPEAKER_02: And I don't really drink anymore, like hardly ever.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
1:28:01
SPEAKER_02: even other than taking a gummy every night to go to sleep,
1:28:04
SPEAKER_02: I don't use any drugs anymore or nothing.
1:28:07
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I don't even take aspirins, really.
1:28:10
SPEAKER_02: I really don't take meds.
1:28:13
SPEAKER_02: And...
1:28:14
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:28:15
SPEAKER_02: I was pleasantly surprised that my liver,
1:28:18
SPEAKER_02: because again,
1:28:19
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:28:20
SPEAKER_02: when you do it for the first time in 30 years,
1:28:21
SPEAKER_02: you're expecting a whole lot of fucking red.
1:28:24
SPEAKER_02: You know, you're expecting a lot of shit to be bad.
1:28:28
SPEAKER_02: And I mean, nothing was like really bad.
1:28:31
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, wow, how can this be?
1:28:33
SPEAKER_02: How can I be such a fat fuck and
1:28:35
SPEAKER_01: not be sick?
1:28:36
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes genetics plays a large part in it as well.
1:28:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I don't know whose genetics I got.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_02: My mom must have stole me from the hospital because my dad had diabetes.
1:28:46
SPEAKER_02: My brother has diabetes.
1:28:48
SPEAKER_02: You know, my dad had strokes and cancer and my mom's had cancer and all that shit.
1:28:55
SPEAKER_01: But your dad was a smoker, wouldn't he?
1:28:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:28:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, he smoked three packs of Lucky's a day.
1:29:00
SPEAKER_01: Well, there you are.
1:29:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but my mom wasn't and she's had cancer.
1:29:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but she had secondhand smoke.
1:29:06
SPEAKER_02: True.
1:29:07
SPEAKER_02: That's true, too.
1:29:09
SPEAKER_02: Man, I only smoked for a very limited time.
1:29:11
SPEAKER_02: I only smoked because I gave you breaks in the army.
1:29:15
SPEAKER_02: That's the honest to God's truth.
1:29:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm in basic training and,
1:29:18
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:29:20
SPEAKER_02: the old joke is real in basic training, that whole smoke them if you got them.
1:29:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, if you didn't have them, then they had you doing fucking push-ups and pull-ups and shit.
1:29:29
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, fuck it, now I smoke.
1:29:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:29:32
SPEAKER_01: Why is it that people smoke, get a break, but people who don't smoke, you have to do shit.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:29:37
SPEAKER_02: And, but that's what it was.
1:29:38
SPEAKER_02: It was smoke them.
1:29:39
SPEAKER_02: If you got them and everybody else, let's do some fucking side straddle hop.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_02: It's like, Ooh, fuck that.
1:29:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm a smoker.
1:29:46
SPEAKER_01: You're being rewarded for being a smoker.
1:29:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:29:50
SPEAKER_02: Instantly.
1:29:50
SPEAKER_02: First time, first time we were allowed to go to the PX to buy stuff.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_02: First thing I bought was a carton of smokes because I was like, fuck this.
1:29:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to always have cigarettes on me.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_02: Even if I just pass them around,
1:30:02
SPEAKER_02: I'll have one to stick in my mouth to, you know, no, no, I'm smoking.
1:30:07
SPEAKER_02: No push-ups for me.
1:30:13
SPEAKER_02: Too funny.
1:30:14
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:30:16
SPEAKER_02: But, well, rest in peace, Angry.
1:30:19
SPEAKER_02: Sorry to see you go.
1:30:21
SPEAKER_02: Really, really am.
1:30:24
SPEAKER_01: Well, you have a little piece of angry with you.
1:30:27
SPEAKER_02: I do.
1:30:28
SPEAKER_02: And I will always be the one that Angry Anderson knighted.
1:30:34
SPEAKER_02: And no one can take that from me.
1:30:36
SPEAKER_01: True.
1:30:37
SPEAKER_01: And who knows if he ever knighted anybody else's being angry, anything.
1:30:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to guess, no.
1:30:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:30:44
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to take a strong guess that he never did.
1:30:46
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:30:47
SPEAKER_02: And even if he did, I was still the first.
1:30:50
SPEAKER_01: You were the only one.
1:30:51
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
1:30:55
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:30:55
SPEAKER_02: Well, let's talk about a couple of other things here for this one.
1:30:59
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:30:59
SPEAKER_00: No, and I'll do it opposite the way I was going to do it.
1:31:04
SPEAKER_03: Yo, metalheads, you ready to get your brains blown off?
1:31:08
SPEAKER_03: Blizzard of Oz is now on vinyl, baby.
1:31:12
SPEAKER_03: Randy Rhoades ripping faces off with those insane solos,
1:31:16
SPEAKER_03: Crazy Train blasting through your speakers like a freight train from hell.
1:31:20
SPEAKER_03: This ain't some lame stream, this is the real deal on wax, loud as hell and twice as evil.
1:31:28
SPEAKER_03: Links at the bottom of the screen.
1:31:30
SPEAKER_03: Buy the Blizzard of Oz vinyl and let it take you on a trip.
1:31:36
SPEAKER_02: So since we're talking about getting old,
1:31:38
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you saw this or not,
1:31:43
SPEAKER_02: but 95-year-old William Shatner took the stage with his new metal show.
1:31:48
SPEAKER_01: I heard about it, but I have not seen any of it.
1:31:52
SPEAKER_01: Oof.
1:31:55
SPEAKER_01: Just oof.
1:31:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, there you go, 95-year-old Captain Kirk.
1:32:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, he should have stayed off the stage.
1:32:04
SPEAKER_02: It's really, really bad.
1:32:06
SPEAKER_02: We'll play it in a minute.
1:32:07
SPEAKER_02: The worst part about it is he really has a great band.
1:32:11
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:32:12
SPEAKER_02: It's Phil Sousan and it's Brent Lightning.
1:32:16
SPEAKER_02: So it's like legitimate people on stage with him playing.
1:32:20
SPEAKER_02: And they play the songs amazingly.
1:32:23
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:32:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:32:24
SPEAKER_02: But he sucks 20 bags of dicks.
1:32:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he is 95.
1:32:29
SPEAKER_01: I don't give a shit how old he is.
1:32:31
SPEAKER_01: He's as old as his band is collectively.
1:32:37
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:32:39
SPEAKER_02: And his performance is every bit 95.
1:32:44
SPEAKER_02: He is lousy.
1:32:47
SPEAKER_02: And I don't mean the tone of his voice.
1:32:49
SPEAKER_01: Is this as good as Pat Boone in a metal mood?
1:32:53
SPEAKER_02: This makes Pat Boone seem like, I don't know, who's the best singer of all time?
1:33:01
SPEAKER_02: This makes Pat Boone into Elvis.
1:33:05
SPEAKER_02: This is just shit.
1:33:08
SPEAKER_02: Period.
1:33:09
SPEAKER_02: Shit.
1:33:11
SPEAKER_02: It's really, really bad.
1:33:13
SPEAKER_01: But is he having fun?
1:33:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure he's having fun.
1:33:16
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:33:17
SPEAKER_01: So as a renowned actor and personality for six decades or more, he's out there having fun.
1:33:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:33:28
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not taking that from him.
1:33:30
SPEAKER_01: And he's still upright.
1:33:31
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he seems to be very mobile.
1:33:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:33:35
SPEAKER_02: Again, I'm not taking any of that away from him.
1:33:38
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
1:33:38
SPEAKER_02: But when you hear how bad his performance is, you'll be like, Jesus Christ, why?
1:33:43
SPEAKER_01: Well, what do you expect a Star Trek guy to be singing metal?
1:33:49
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
1:33:49
SPEAKER_02: If he's doing it for free, fine.
1:33:52
SPEAKER_02: But I guarantee you these tickets are probably $100 a piece.
1:33:55
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know what it was for.
1:33:56
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it was for a benefit.
1:33:58
SPEAKER_02: Or is it Riot Fest?
1:34:00
SPEAKER_02: It was there in Chicago.
1:34:01
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:34:03
SPEAKER_02: Here, we'll play.
1:34:03
SPEAKER_02: Here's a little Enter Sandman.
1:34:05
SPEAKER_02: It's William Shatner.
1:34:07
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
1:34:08
SPEAKER_02: Let me get this on the screen here.
1:34:10
SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
1:34:12
SPEAKER_02: Get you on the screen.
1:34:13
SPEAKER_02: There we go.
1:34:15
SPEAKER_02: And here we go.
1:34:15
SPEAKER_02: Here comes William Shatner.
1:34:22
SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
1:34:23
[music]
1:34:42
SPEAKER_02: Not good so far, right?
1:34:44
SPEAKER_02: Sounds good.
1:34:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're rocking it out.
1:34:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, wait till you hear him.
1:34:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
1:34:51
Oh.
1:34:52
[music]
1:35:32
SPEAKER_01: Just awful.
1:35:34
SPEAKER_01: He almost sounds like he's trying to do cookie monster vocal.
1:35:38
SPEAKER_02: It's so bad.
1:35:40
SPEAKER_00: It's like he's never heard the song before.
1:35:43
SPEAKER_01: That's, you know, again, it's just a novelty thing.
1:35:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I get it, but it's just awful.
1:35:50
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's putting out an album of this shit, and I know he's done it before.
1:35:56
SPEAKER_02: I know that he's done, like,
1:35:57
SPEAKER_02: a pop album or something before,
1:35:59
SPEAKER_02: a rock album or something, but now he's Now he's doing metal classics.
1:36:03
SPEAKER_02: All right,
1:36:04
SPEAKER_02: let's get a little more of this and I'll give you some crazy train too
1:36:07
SPEAKER_02: because it's equally awful.
1:36:09
SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
1:36:10
[music]
1:37:21
SPEAKER_02: This would be fun for like one song, you know, for one, maybe two songs.
1:37:27
SPEAKER_02: This would be fun, but can you imagine a half hour of this?
1:37:33
SPEAKER_02: Could you watch this for a half hour?
1:37:35
SPEAKER_01: No, I, but,
1:37:36
SPEAKER_01: but it's,
1:37:37
SPEAKER_01: I think for people who are, uh, William Shatner fans, it's probably a fun novelty.
1:37:44
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like, yeah, you get it.
1:37:46
SPEAKER_01: Grandpa.
1:37:48
SPEAKER_01: Fucking.
1:37:50
SPEAKER_02: Jim, in the chat room, I'd pay a grand to see this.
1:37:53
SPEAKER_01: A grand?
1:37:54
SPEAKER_01: A grand.
1:37:55
SPEAKER_01: See?
1:37:57
SPEAKER_01: That's just crazy talk.
1:37:59
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's a fun novelty, for sure.
1:38:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's it.
1:38:05
SPEAKER_00: It's a novelty.
1:38:09
SPEAKER_00: And again, I'm not even trying to shit on it too bad.
1:38:11
SPEAKER_00: It's just like, man, it's just not good.
1:38:16
SPEAKER_02: I wish it was even remotely...
1:38:19
SPEAKER_02: Decent.
1:38:22
SPEAKER_02: Because I hate absolutely smashing it, but man.
1:38:27
SPEAKER_01: You know, just from the standpoint that he's 95 and he's still very mobile.
1:38:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:38:37
SPEAKER_01: And is up there just seemingly just having a fun time rocking out with some rock people.
1:38:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:38:46
SPEAKER_01: Can you imagine yourself at 95 doing this?
1:38:51
SPEAKER_02: They'll be wheeling me out after they dig me up for that.
1:38:54
SPEAKER_02: Are you kidding?
1:38:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I couldn't imagine my dad even doing that.
1:38:59
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
1:38:59
SPEAKER_01: But to me, that's...
1:39:03
SPEAKER_01: Aside from the performance, you know, the singing and stuff, I just think I find it funny.
1:39:09
SPEAKER_01: And it's entertaining to know that a guy of that age is up there doing this.
1:39:18
SPEAKER_01: When guys, you know, 30 years younger than him are coming out in a wheelchair.
1:39:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:39:24
SPEAKER_00: Phil Collins sitting in a fucking office chair.
1:39:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:39:29
SPEAKER_00: At least Phil Collins sings the songs correctly.
1:39:31
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
1:39:32
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what he's doing here.
1:39:33
SPEAKER_00: You would think and call me naive here.
1:39:38
SPEAKER_00: I would have thought he would learn how to present the songs before he would get on
1:39:41
SPEAKER_00: a major stage to sing them.
1:39:46
SPEAKER_00: I would have thought that, I mean, this is like
1:39:51
SPEAKER_02: grandpa Henry Rollins versions of these songs.
1:39:55
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it really is.
1:39:56
SPEAKER_02: It's like a weird spoken wordy thing.
1:39:59
SPEAKER_02: So, all right, well, let's check out crazy train.
1:40:04
SPEAKER_00: Let's get that one in here.
1:40:11
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1:40:18
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1:40:22
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1:40:30
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1:40:50
SPEAKER_02: All right, who cares?
1:40:51
SPEAKER_03: I have all his albums.
1:40:53
SPEAKER_03: A heavy metal superstar.
1:40:55
SPEAKER_03: All right.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_03: Great.
1:41:16
SPEAKER_03: Oh
1:41:29
SPEAKER_03: boy!
1:41:32
SPEAKER_03: I was at a concert several years ago,
1:41:34
SPEAKER_03: hot August night, this cold September evening, and the rain and the wind is perfect!
1:41:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm so glad you're here, folks.
1:41:46
SPEAKER_02: Brave the elements to see us and brave the fire girls.
1:41:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm telling you, it's incredible.
1:41:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm so grateful you're here.
1:41:55
SPEAKER_02: So a little while ago, Cleopatra Records.
1:41:59
SPEAKER_02: Who cares?
1:42:01
All aboard!
1:42:05
[music]
1:42:15
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
1:42:16
[music]
1:43:40
SPEAKER_02: He's dreadfully bad, which does make it somewhat entertaining.
1:43:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, it's he's doing the Shatner is what he's doing.
1:43:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's what he does.
1:43:51
SPEAKER_01: That's a spoken word interpretation of the song.
1:43:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:43:57
SPEAKER_02: It's just terrible, but it's so bad that it's entertaining.
1:44:05
SPEAKER_02: Is that fair?
1:44:07
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:44:08
SPEAKER_02: Because it is kind of, you have to keep watching.
1:44:14
SPEAKER_01: It's like, there's Captain Kirk.
1:44:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:44:20
SPEAKER_02: I'll play a little more of this.
1:44:20
SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
1:44:21
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1:45:33
SPEAKER_02: Phil Sousan has to be going, what the hell happened to my career?
1:45:36
SPEAKER_02: I did this for real at one point.
1:45:40
SPEAKER_02: Now I'm doing it for Shatner.
1:45:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:45:43
SPEAKER_02: He's got to be like, what the hell happened?
1:45:46
SPEAKER_02: How did it fall apart so fast?
1:45:51
SPEAKER_02: You want a little more?
1:45:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sure.
1:45:52
SPEAKER_02: Why not?
1:45:53
SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
1:45:54
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1:47:56
SPEAKER_02: This is the easiest gig all these guys have ever played.
1:47:59
SPEAKER_02: They don't have to worry at all about making mistakes.
1:48:04
SPEAKER_02: I can't imagine that after Shatner's going to be like,
1:48:07
SPEAKER_02: you know what, you came in a half bar earlier.
1:48:11
SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, this is one of those gigs, it's like a paid practice.
1:48:16
SPEAKER_02: Right, of course.
1:48:17
SPEAKER_02: Well, there it is, William Shatner.
1:48:19
SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
1:48:21
SPEAKER_01: I just find it entertaining.
1:48:23
SPEAKER_01: I think it's just funny.
1:48:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, it's awful, but whatever.
1:48:29
SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, if that was the only act you were seeing that night, it might be horrible.
1:48:34
SPEAKER_02: But Riot Fest has like 30 bands or something, doesn't it?
1:48:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I was there two years ago already to see Slayer.
1:48:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's like an all-day event.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
1:48:47
SPEAKER_01: It's a couple days.
1:48:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so...
1:48:49
SPEAKER_02: So your day's not ruined if Shatner shows up.
1:48:54
SPEAKER_02: But there you have it, William Shatner up there at Riot Fest.
1:49:01
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:49:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to flip over one more quick one, and then we'll take a break.
1:49:06
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:49:08
SPEAKER_02: So Metallica, and I know we bang on this constantly.
1:49:14
SPEAKER_02: I got this in between the first segment and this segment.
1:49:17
SPEAKER_02: Sent to me by our friend John Darlis, and I immediately put this up to be ready to show this.
1:49:24
SPEAKER_02: Metallica announced another leg of the M72 World Tour, the never-ending tour.
1:49:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:49:31
SPEAKER_02: And they announced it here in Cleveland,
1:49:33
SPEAKER_02: and they announced it in other places,
1:49:35
SPEAKER_02: and I'm definitely not going, especially now that I've seen some of these prices.
1:49:41
SPEAKER_02: All right, so he sent me this screenshot of...
1:49:48
SPEAKER_02: This is not from here.
1:49:51
SPEAKER_02: This is in Raleigh, North Carolina on Wednesday, June 2nd, 2027.
1:49:57
SPEAKER_02: They bought three tickets with the snake pit experience,
1:50:02
SPEAKER_02: which gives you the standard bullshit that they always get,
1:50:06
SPEAKER_02: you know, get moved to the head of the line at the table.
1:50:10
SPEAKER_01: You get to pick your merch before anybody else.
1:50:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:50:14
SPEAKER_01: Maybe you get free shade or something.
1:50:19
SPEAKER_01: And a bottle of water.
1:50:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, one bottle of water and a finger sandwich or something.
1:50:26
SPEAKER_02: But the big lure to it,
1:50:28
SPEAKER_02: and I've sat in this once,
1:50:29
SPEAKER_02: I sat in Reno,
1:50:31
SPEAKER_02: the Snake Pit,
1:50:32
SPEAKER_02: which is where they kind of,
1:50:34
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:50:35
SPEAKER_02: the Snake Pit for this tour is the middle of that big stupid stage,
1:50:40
SPEAKER_02: is the Snake Pit.
1:50:42
SPEAKER_02: Now I'm going to put this up on the screen in a minute, but I just want you to guess.
1:50:46
SPEAKER_00: It's a VIP package.
1:50:49
SPEAKER_00: It is three tickets for the snake pit experience.
1:50:54
SPEAKER_00: Would you like to take a,
1:50:56
SPEAKER_00: just take a wild guess what that costs before I put
1:51:01
SPEAKER_02: that on the screen?
1:51:02
SPEAKER_01: For, for what, what is it we're buying?
1:51:04
SPEAKER_00: The snake pit experience,
1:51:06
SPEAKER_00: the nothing else matters snakes,
1:51:08
SPEAKER_02: but snake pit experience from Macap metallic on a 72 seasons tour.
1:51:14
SPEAKER_01: So we're talking a single ticket here.
1:51:16
SPEAKER_02: Three tickets.
1:51:17
SPEAKER_01: Oh, three tickets.
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1:52:02
SPEAKER_01: To be in the snake pit, three tickets.
1:52:05
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:52:06
SPEAKER_02: Three tickets in the middle plus the miscellaneous bullshit,
1:52:11
SPEAKER_02: you know, the advanced merch or a special T-shirt or
1:52:15
SPEAKER_01: a laminate or whatever.
1:52:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to throw a grand ticket, three grand.
1:52:22
SPEAKER_02: At three grand, I don't know that they would let you into the parking lot.
1:52:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, my God.
1:52:26
SPEAKER_01: Is it really up at the 10 grand range for three tickets?
1:52:31
SPEAKER_00: More.
1:52:32
SPEAKER_01: Really?
1:52:33
SPEAKER_01: More.
1:52:34
SPEAKER_01: No fucking way.
1:52:35
SPEAKER_01: $15.
1:52:38
SPEAKER_00: It is $11,488.
1:52:41
SPEAKER_00: Oh, man.
1:52:48
SPEAKER_01: That's, what, $3,500 a ticket?
1:52:51
SPEAKER_01: A ticket.
1:52:52
SPEAKER_01: Oh, geez.
1:52:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if this includes fees or any of that stuff either.
1:52:58
SPEAKER_00: The fees on this would be a... What would 6% of that be?
1:53:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, 10% would be $1,100, right?
1:53:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:53:10
SPEAKER_00: So 6% would be about $800?
1:53:11
SPEAKER_00: $11,488.
1:53:11
SPEAKER_00: $11,488.
1:53:12
SPEAKER_00: I mean, what are the fees?
1:53:13
SPEAKER_00: I think they're more than 6%, aren't they?
1:53:17
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what it is.
1:53:18
SPEAKER_01: They're usually
1:53:19
SPEAKER_02: like about 20%, aren't they?
1:53:27
SPEAKER_01: If it was 6%, it would be $689.28.
1:53:33
SPEAKER_00: What is it if it's 20?
1:53:34
SPEAKER_00: Because I think it is like 20 for the convenience fee and all that other horseshit.
1:53:40
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, the convenience charges.
1:53:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, convenience.
1:53:43
SPEAKER_01: Who's that convenient for?
1:53:45
SPEAKER_01: Them.
1:53:46
SPEAKER_01: 20%, you say?
1:53:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:53:57
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that can't be.
1:53:58
SPEAKER_01: Three more thousand?
1:54:00
SPEAKER_01: $2,297.
1:54:01
SPEAKER_01: That's probably
1:54:02
SPEAKER_00: about right.
1:54:03
SPEAKER_00: Really?
1:54:03
SPEAKER_00: Because $10,000 would be two.
1:54:05
SPEAKER_00: If it was $10,000, it would be $2,000.
1:54:09
SPEAKER_01: Just for the convenience charges.
1:54:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:54:12
SPEAKER_01: Does it go by percentage or is it a flat fee?
1:54:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:54:17
SPEAKER_02: Again, this was emailed to me.
1:54:20
SPEAKER_02: I didn't do any research on it at all.
1:54:22
SPEAKER_02: I just saw this and was like,
1:54:27
SPEAKER_02: Nope, not for me, my friend.
1:54:31
SPEAKER_02: And even my buddies that are going,
1:54:33
SPEAKER_02: that bought tickets,
1:54:35
SPEAKER_02: told me that,
1:54:36
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:54:36
SPEAKER_02: the Ticketmaster,
1:54:37
SPEAKER_02: the advanced sales,
1:54:39
SPEAKER_02: general admission tickets,
1:54:40
SPEAKER_02: like just on the floor, were anywhere between $400 and $800.
1:54:48
SPEAKER_02: That's just regular old ticket, $400 to $800.
1:54:50
SPEAKER_02: $400 was lower bulk.
1:54:54
SPEAKER_02: But it's in a stadium with the stage being at the 50-yard line.
1:54:59
SPEAKER_02: So Lower Bowl is going to suck a bag of dicks.
1:55:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can't see.
1:55:03
SPEAKER_02: That's going to be terrible.
1:55:05
SPEAKER_01: You'll be below eye level.
1:55:07
SPEAKER_02: And you'll be a million miles away from the stage.
1:55:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, no thanks.
1:55:12
SPEAKER_00: Nah, you know how much I love Metallica, but there's no chance I go to this.
1:55:18
SPEAKER_02: Unless Chip calls me and says, hey, I got some tickets for you.
1:55:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no shit.
1:55:22
SPEAKER_02: It's about the only way I'm going to this one is,
1:55:25
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:55:26
SPEAKER_02: and I don't know anybody in any of the bands to where I could even,
1:55:29
SPEAKER_02: because you know me,
1:55:30
SPEAKER_02: I would love to be at this, but that's one I'd have to make a phone call on.
1:55:36
SPEAKER_02: I am not spending $11,000.
1:55:39
SPEAKER_00: That is ridiculous.
1:55:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't care who the band is.
1:55:42
SPEAKER_00: That's ridiculous.
1:55:45
SPEAKER_00: Led Zeppelin, that's ridiculous.
1:55:47
SPEAKER_00: If Led Zeppelin did a reunion with the three of them and Jason Bonham, That's not worth it.
1:55:54
SPEAKER_02: Do you think that that would be worth $11,000 for three tickets?
1:55:57
SPEAKER_01: No, absolutely not.
1:55:58
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:56:00
SPEAKER_01: I think we talked about that before, that if they had done that, my limit is $1,000.
1:56:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's more than mine.
1:56:10
SPEAKER_02: There's nobody worth that to me.
1:56:13
SPEAKER_02: There's just not.
1:56:15
SPEAKER_02: You know, you got to be a real star fucker to pay $11,000 to see a show.
1:56:21
SPEAKER_02: I honestly, how else do you justify that?
1:56:24
SPEAKER_02: You can't love the music that much.
1:56:26
SPEAKER_01: And what I want to know is who has that kind of expendable cash?
1:56:32
SPEAKER_01: Are you financing that?
1:56:34
SPEAKER_01: Got to be.
1:56:35
SPEAKER_01: It's got to be credit cards.
1:56:37
SPEAKER_01: There's just no way I would go into debt and finance a credit card charge to go to
1:56:43
SPEAKER_01: a freaking
1:56:45
SPEAKER_00: concert.
1:56:46
SPEAKER_00: $11,000.
1:56:48
SPEAKER_00: For a lot of people in this country,
1:56:50
SPEAKER_00: not everybody, not me,
1:56:53
SPEAKER_00: but for a good amount of people,
1:56:56
SPEAKER_02: that's what they pay for their mortgage or their rent in a year.
1:57:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:57:02
SPEAKER_02: In a year.
1:57:05
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's the kind of money you put down on like a $60,000.
1:57:09
SPEAKER_00: How much did you put down on your truck or your
1:57:13
SPEAKER_02: car before the Swedes took it?
1:57:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
1:57:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think I put 25 on it.
1:57:21
SPEAKER_02: 25 down on what was the, what was the sticker?
1:57:24
SPEAKER_02: Like 60,
1:57:25
SPEAKER_01: 70, 55.
1:57:26
SPEAKER_02: And you did that to keep it at a low payment, right?
1:57:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:57:28
SPEAKER_01: And I paid it off in a year.
1:57:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:57:31
SPEAKER_02: And then they took it from you.
1:57:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
1:57:34
SPEAKER_01: Cause they needed it more than I did.
1:57:36
SPEAKER_02: Yes, they did.
1:57:38
SPEAKER_00: But, but yeah, I mean, dude, 11,400, $11,400 would buy you a pretty goddamn nice used car.
1:57:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:57:52
SPEAKER_02: $11,000.
1:57:53
SPEAKER_02: If you had that kind of money and you just didn't want to invest in like a house,
1:57:57
SPEAKER_02: you could probably buy a double wide trailer, don't you think, for $11,000?
1:58:00
SPEAKER_02: Probably.
1:58:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's a lot of money.
1:58:05
SPEAKER_02: I mean, for concert tickets, it's not a lot of money.
1:58:08
SPEAKER_01: You're talking two hours, two to three hours of entertainment for that.
1:58:16
SPEAKER_02: Even if you count the openers and everything, it's what, at the most, four?
1:58:20
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
1:58:22
SPEAKER_02: So you're spending almost $3,000 an hour?
1:58:28
SPEAKER_02: For the privilege of seeing Happy Time Metallica that's not one-tenth as good
1:58:33
SPEAKER_02: as they used to be?
1:58:35
SPEAKER_02: And Limp Bizkit,
1:58:36
SPEAKER_02: who I would like to see in a stadium,
1:58:38
SPEAKER_02: but I don't know that I'd want to see him as an opener.
1:58:41
SPEAKER_02: And Avatar, I don't know shit about.
1:58:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know their songs and they seem okay, but I don't know.
1:58:47
SPEAKER_02: They add no dollar value to the bill.
1:58:50
SPEAKER_02: Avatar?
1:58:50
SPEAKER_02: I mean, how many people do you think are going to this because,
1:58:53
SPEAKER_02: well, they were torn until they saw that Avatar was on it?
1:58:56
SPEAKER_00: Do you think anybody?
1:58:58
SPEAKER_00: No.
1:59:00
SPEAKER_00: I just cannot.
1:59:02
SPEAKER_00: This is just ridiculous, man.
1:59:04
SPEAKER_00: It's just ridiculous.
1:59:05
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
1:59:09
SPEAKER_00: Entertainment is wrecked.
1:59:11
SPEAKER_00: It is.
1:59:13
SPEAKER_00: It is wrecked, and it is...
1:59:16
SPEAKER_02: Ain't going to get any better for a while either.
1:59:19
SPEAKER_01: Until people just stop paying for these shows.
1:59:25
SPEAKER_01: But if you're still ponying up $3,500 for a ticket
1:59:31
SPEAKER_01: and they still think they can get it, they'll just continue doing it.
1:59:35
SPEAKER_02: And I mean, dude,
1:59:37
SPEAKER_02: I will tell you with this Metallica thing,
1:59:40
SPEAKER_02: I only can judge it kind of by Facebook,
1:59:45
SPEAKER_02: but pretty much my Facebook friends are probably 85% of them are metalheads.
1:59:55
SPEAKER_00: And I would say 50%
1:59:59
SPEAKER_00: of my friends that bought tickets to
2:00:01
SPEAKER_00: the Metallica show were also at the Detroit show.
2:00:05
SPEAKER_00: So they've already seen this, but they're still willing to pay even more money to see it again.
2:00:12
SPEAKER_00: I don't get it.
2:00:15
SPEAKER_01: Well, neither do I, but then again, I'm not in that boat.
2:00:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:00:22
SPEAKER_01: Like I said,
2:00:23
SPEAKER_01: there were three or four shows this summer that I wouldn't mind going to see,
2:00:27
SPEAKER_01: and I didn't go to see one of them.
2:00:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:00:31
SPEAKER_02: That's...
2:00:33
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't even be going to this Triumph show if I hadn't gotten a free ticket.
2:00:36
SPEAKER_01: Well, again, they came here and I wanted to go and I didn't go.
2:00:40
SPEAKER_01: But since our publicist is offering.
2:00:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'll go for that.
2:00:45
SPEAKER_01: Why not?
2:00:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he may even hook us up for after show.
2:00:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, could be.
2:00:49
SPEAKER_01: I'd like
2:00:51
SPEAKER_02: to meet Phil X.
2:00:52
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:00:52
SPEAKER_01: He seems like a pretty good
2:00:54
SPEAKER_02: guy.
2:00:55
SPEAKER_02: I'd like to meet Todd.
2:00:57
SPEAKER_02: It's funny.
2:00:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't have really a whole lot of interest in meeting Triumph.
2:01:01
SPEAKER_02: But I'm a big fan of Phil X. I would really like to meet Phil X. I think he's fantastic.
2:01:07
SPEAKER_02: I would love to meet him.
2:01:08
SPEAKER_01: Well, you interviewed him, but, you know, to meet him in person.
2:01:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:01:11
SPEAKER_02: I need the photo.
2:01:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm like little Jimmy.
2:01:13
SPEAKER_02: I need the photo.
2:01:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there you are.
2:01:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I didn't know a whole lot about Phil X,
2:01:20
SPEAKER_01: you know, until I started seeing all these videos with him with Triumph.
2:01:25
SPEAKER_01: And I never realized what a great performer he is.
2:01:28
SPEAKER_01: He's a talented guy, man.
2:01:29
SPEAKER_01: He's amazing.
2:01:31
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't want to say he's wasting his time in Bon Jovi.
2:01:35
SPEAKER_02: He's wasting his skills because he's a much better player than they let him be in that band.
2:01:41
SPEAKER_00: You know, he's playing a fucking a bunch of soccer moms and he's a metal guy.
2:01:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, he's got to pay the bills just like the rest of us.
2:01:49
SPEAKER_00: And he's paying them in a big way.
2:01:50
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's been with Bon Jovi now, what, 15 years or something?
2:01:53
SPEAKER_01: At least.
2:01:54
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, he's probably making a good amount of money.
2:01:58
SPEAKER_02: I don't imagine he's doing it for $1,000 a gig.
2:02:03
SPEAKER_01: Unless he gets lawn friend money.
2:02:08
SPEAKER_00: I hope he's getting better than that.
2:02:14
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:02:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's where we're at here.
2:02:17
SPEAKER_00: Metallica overpriced Shatner.
2:02:20
SPEAKER_00: Shatner's out there.
2:02:21
SPEAKER_00: You can buy tickets to see him, I guess.
2:02:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:02:25
SPEAKER_00: And Angry Anderson's dead.
2:02:26
SPEAKER_00: What a fucking week.
2:02:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
2:02:30
SPEAKER_01: What I was going to point out about the Shatner thing.
2:02:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:02:33
SPEAKER_01: Shatner is 20 years Aussie senior and Aussie's in the ground.
2:02:38
SPEAKER_01: And Aussie's gone.
2:02:40
SPEAKER_01: And Shatner's still out there singing Aussie songs.
2:02:43
SPEAKER_02: I know.
2:02:45
SPEAKER_00: How crazy.
2:02:46
SPEAKER_00: Look, good on him that he's that kind of got his brain together.
2:02:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:02:52
SPEAKER_02: And he's 95.
2:02:52
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's 95.
2:02:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:02:56
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we've beaten this topic to death about when is it too old to be out there.
2:03:03
SPEAKER_02: Just when I think we have it locked down at about 70 to 72,
2:03:08
SPEAKER_02: because William Shatner just blowing that idea right to hell.
2:03:12
SPEAKER_01: You know,
2:03:12
SPEAKER_01: and then in another 15 years,
2:03:14
SPEAKER_01: we'll be saying, God damn it, when is that Mick Jagger going to retire?
2:03:18
SPEAKER_01: No kidding.
2:03:19
SPEAKER_01: He'll be 98 years old.
2:03:21
SPEAKER_00: Start me up.
2:03:28
SPEAKER_01: Look at Keith Richards.
2:03:29
SPEAKER_01: I thought he would be in the ground 40 years ago.
2:03:32
SPEAKER_00: No kidding.
2:03:33
SPEAKER_00: He's outlasted everybody.
2:03:37
SPEAKER_00: That's craziness.
2:03:39
SPEAKER_01: I guess you never know.
2:03:41
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
2:03:43
SPEAKER_01: Fate is weird.
2:03:46
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
2:03:46
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:03:47
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2:04:01
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:04:02
SPEAKER_01: Very cool.
2:04:03
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2:06:00
SPEAKER_00: Chris, what band's tour will Plush open for next?
2:06:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't know that they will.
2:06:07
SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I don't know that they will.
2:06:08
SPEAKER_00: I think they should.
2:06:10
SPEAKER_00: I think they should get hooked up with Infected Rain or In This Moment or somebody
2:06:19
SPEAKER_00: of that ilk and And go out with that if they're going to do that.
2:06:24
SPEAKER_00: I don't think they should keep touring for 300 people that are already sold to the band.
2:06:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's kind of what they're doing now.
2:06:32
SPEAKER_00: They're playing two and 300 seat venues.
2:06:37
SPEAKER_00: Well, who's going to go to that?
2:06:39
SPEAKER_00: People that already know about the band.
2:06:41
SPEAKER_00: You're not going to get discovered that way.
2:06:44
SPEAKER_00: And for all the touring that they did with all those big bands,
2:06:50
SPEAKER_00: they were all bands that didn't make a whole lot of sense to building them up.
2:06:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, you like Alice in Chains.
2:06:57
SPEAKER_00: Do you look at Plush and Alice in Chains as a good fit?
2:07:01
SPEAKER_00: No.
2:07:02
SPEAKER_00: Do you look at Slash and them as a good fit?
2:07:05
SPEAKER_01: No.
2:07:06
SPEAKER_00: Do you look at maybe Wolfgang Van Halen?
2:07:10
SPEAKER_00: Maybe?
2:07:11
SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
2:07:11
SPEAKER_01: Sort of?
2:07:12
SPEAKER_01: And they've done that already.
2:07:13
SPEAKER_00: That's what I mean.
2:07:14
SPEAKER_00: They've already toured with the warning.
2:07:17
SPEAKER_00: Warning's not going to take them out again.
2:07:19
SPEAKER_01: And I mean,
2:07:20
SPEAKER_01: are people coming out to see Wolfgang Van Halen because he's so good or just because
2:07:25
SPEAKER_01: of the legacy?
2:07:27
SPEAKER_00: 50-50, I think, on that one.
2:07:29
SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of people really dig what he's doing too.
2:07:32
SPEAKER_01: Really?
2:07:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I do.
2:07:34
SPEAKER_00: I mean, because if you like Van Halen and you're going to Wolfie shows,
2:07:39
SPEAKER_00: you're going to be vastly disappointed.
2:07:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
2:07:41
SPEAKER_01: It's nothing like Van Halen.
2:07:44
SPEAKER_01: But you often wonder if they go just for the name recognition.
2:07:48
SPEAKER_00: I think those that buy the meet and greet might.
2:07:51
SPEAKER_00: But I don't think the people that are just randomly going,
2:07:54
SPEAKER_00: I think they're going because I think more of those people go
2:07:57
SPEAKER_00: because they saw Wolfie with like Alter Bridge or one of those bands or Daughtry
2:08:01
SPEAKER_00: or something, you know, and they just, and Wolfie gets a lot of breaks.
2:08:05
SPEAKER_00: I mean, look, he's, he hasn't really accomplished anything either yet.
2:08:09
SPEAKER_00: He's up there on the fucking Ozzy stage on the back for the beginning show and, uh,
2:08:14
SPEAKER_00: you know, on,
2:08:15
SPEAKER_00: on the rock and roll hall of fame,
2:08:17
SPEAKER_00: Ozzy band and all,
2:08:18
SPEAKER_00: you know, he gets all those breaks and it's not translating really either.
2:08:22
SPEAKER_00: No.
2:08:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it's just a terrible time to be in a band, period.
2:08:28
SPEAKER_00: And that's not me trying to get out of saying that this new plush record is bad
2:08:34
SPEAKER_00: or good or whatever.
2:08:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, just in general, the warning is the anomaly now.
2:08:40
SPEAKER_00: Because they have absolutely blown up.
2:08:42
SPEAKER_00: They're a big, big band now all of a sudden.
2:08:46
SPEAKER_00: And good on them, you know.
2:08:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a huge fan of them either, but...
2:08:51
SPEAKER_00: Can't argue that they're somehow,
2:08:53
SPEAKER_00: someway, whoever manages them is much better than whoever's managing plush.
2:08:57
SPEAKER_00: That's for damn sure.
2:08:59
SPEAKER_00: Because holy shit, they're playing for the NFL.
2:09:02
SPEAKER_00: They're playing halftime for the NFL.
2:09:04
SPEAKER_00: They played at the draft.
2:09:07
SPEAKER_00: They're headlining in Mexico.
2:09:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's where they're from, but they're still headlining big giant places and stuff.
2:09:13
SPEAKER_00: It's like, whatever they're doing is working.
2:09:17
SPEAKER_00: Working a lot better than a lot of other bands are doing, so.
2:09:22
SPEAKER_00: Oh, well.
2:09:23
SPEAKER_00: But you know who's going to blow up, dude?
2:09:27
SPEAKER_00: This is a guarantee.
2:09:29
SPEAKER_00: Quiet Riot?
2:09:30
SPEAKER_00: Quiet Riot is going to blow up.
2:09:35
SPEAKER_00: This story is amazing to me, man.
2:09:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:09:39
SPEAKER_00: It really, really is amazing to me.
2:09:42
SPEAKER_00: I'll put the picture up.
2:09:44
SPEAKER_00: There's John Tora.
2:09:45
SPEAKER_00: John Tora was announced as the new singer of Quiet Riot.
2:09:49
SPEAKER_01: So he got the gig.
2:09:50
SPEAKER_00: He got the gig.
2:09:54
SPEAKER_00: According to Quiet Riot, over 700 other entrants.
2:09:59
SPEAKER_00: Do you believe that?
2:10:01
SPEAKER_00: No, I do not.
2:10:02
SPEAKER_00: I don't believe that either.
2:10:04
SPEAKER_00: Over seven other entrants, maybe.
2:10:07
SPEAKER_01: Maybe seven, yes.
2:10:09
SPEAKER_00: 700?
2:10:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm not buying that at all.
2:10:11
SPEAKER_01: No.
2:10:11
SPEAKER_00: I think Quiet Riot straight up got pressured by social media people to put this kid
2:10:16
SPEAKER_00: in the position.
2:10:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:10:18
SPEAKER_01: And again...
2:10:19
SPEAKER_01: Who in the hell is Quiet Riot these days anyway?
2:10:24
SPEAKER_01: Who is Quiet Riot?
2:10:26
SPEAKER_00: Rudy Sarzo?
2:10:27
SPEAKER_00: Rudy Sarzo and Regina Benally.
2:10:30
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
2:10:31
SPEAKER_00: Who?
2:10:33
SPEAKER_00: Frankie's wife.
2:10:35
SPEAKER_01: That's who's in charge of this shit.
2:10:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know, but as far as the band identity is concerned, who's Quiet Riot these days?
2:10:48
SPEAKER_01: Rudy Sarzo?
2:10:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, there's named guys in the band.
2:10:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Johnny Kelly's a named guy.
2:10:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he's... From typo negative.
2:10:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he's not known for Quiet Riot.
2:11:01
SPEAKER_00: He's not even known for hair metal.
2:11:03
SPEAKER_01: That's my point.
2:11:04
SPEAKER_01: But the thing is, does Quiet Riot even exist
2:11:12
SPEAKER_01: for what Quiet Riot was?
2:11:16
SPEAKER_00: No, that...
2:11:18
SPEAKER_00: That band is gone.
2:11:21
SPEAKER_00: That band died with Frankie and Kevin.
2:11:25
SPEAKER_01: Right.
2:11:26
SPEAKER_00: That was Quiet Riot.
2:11:27
SPEAKER_00: And they're both dead.
2:11:29
SPEAKER_01: They're gone.
2:11:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:11:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, just a side note.
2:11:34
SPEAKER_00: Thank you very much, Professor Tor.
2:11:36
SPEAKER_00: He said, I did a great interview with Frederico Mondelli of Frozen Crown.
2:11:43
SPEAKER_00: It's weird the bands that people gravitate to.
2:11:46
SPEAKER_00: Like I did that one.
2:11:48
SPEAKER_00: I just sort of heard it and liked it.
2:11:49
SPEAKER_00: And the publicist was kind of like, hey, can you do me a solid on this?
2:11:52
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, yeah, why not?
2:11:54
SPEAKER_00: So I interviewed the guy and he was cool.
2:11:57
SPEAKER_00: And then somebody likes it.
2:11:58
SPEAKER_00: So that's great.
2:11:59
SPEAKER_00: So thank you, Professor Tor.
2:12:01
SPEAKER_00: I appreciate that.
2:12:03
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, back to the Tor thing.
2:12:06
SPEAKER_00: My thought is exactly what my thought was before he got the gig.
2:12:13
SPEAKER_00: I hope that they slimmed him down.
2:12:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, get him on a treadmill.
2:12:18
SPEAKER_00: He's got to lose some weight.
2:12:22
SPEAKER_00: You know, he has to lose weight.
2:12:25
SPEAKER_00: There's no fat guy singing classic 80s hair metal.
2:12:30
SPEAKER_00: There never was.
2:12:31
SPEAKER_01: He's got the 80s hair thing going on.
2:12:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it looks like a wig because he's fat.
2:12:38
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
2:12:40
SPEAKER_01: But the thing is, trying to mimic or emulate...
2:12:46
SPEAKER_01: An era.
2:12:48
SPEAKER_01: You know, for cosplay purposes, that's fine.
2:12:52
SPEAKER_01: But for being a touring band that is, well, strangely enough, still getting gigs.
2:13:03
SPEAKER_01: Even though the people who, there's no one in the band.
2:13:08
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, Rudy Sarzo, I mean, what, is he pushing like 80 himself?
2:13:13
SPEAKER_00: He's like 75 or something easy.
2:13:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:13:17
SPEAKER_01: You know, and he's got credibility as far as like his background and participation in music.
2:13:24
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, Quiet Riot, Whitesnake, Blue Oyster Cult.
2:13:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:13:32
SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
2:13:32
SPEAKER_01: But now he's using Quiet Riot as his last vehicle to make money?
2:13:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:13:42
SPEAKER_01: Apparently.
2:13:44
SPEAKER_01: So how many singers has Quiet Riot gone through since Kevin Dubrow passed away,
2:13:50
SPEAKER_01: what, almost 20 years ago?
2:13:52
SPEAKER_00: I think it's like eight.
2:13:53
SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
2:13:54
SPEAKER_00: There's Dubrow.
2:13:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, just in the history of the band, there's Dubrow.
2:13:59
SPEAKER_00: Then there was Shortino.
2:14:01
SPEAKER_00: Then Kevin came back.
2:14:03
SPEAKER_00: Then there was Mark Huff,
2:14:06
SPEAKER_00: Scott Vocoon,
2:14:09
SPEAKER_00: Jizzy, Shawn Nichols,
2:14:15
SPEAKER_00: James Durbin, and now then Jizzy again, and then John Tora.
2:14:23
SPEAKER_00: So eight, eight singers.
2:14:28
SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is right in Skid Row territory.
2:14:32
SPEAKER_00: That's more than Skid Row territory.
2:14:33
SPEAKER_00: They have eight.
2:14:35
SPEAKER_00: I agree.
2:14:36
SPEAKER_01: But the thing is, this is a floundering brand that's trying to find a singer.
2:14:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:14:46
SPEAKER_00: They're just trying to keep making money.
2:14:48
SPEAKER_00: Let's call it what it is.
2:14:50
SPEAKER_00: And more power to them.
2:14:53
SPEAKER_00: I don't have to like Alex Grossi to fucking appreciate the fact
2:14:57
SPEAKER_00: that Quiet Riot can still go out there and play a show.
2:15:01
SPEAKER_00: Whether he books it or whoever books it or I like him or I don't like him, it doesn't matter.
2:15:06
SPEAKER_00: Quiet Riot is still an active entity band.
2:15:09
SPEAKER_00: It is.
2:15:10
SPEAKER_00: My problem that I have with this move here is twofold.
2:15:15
SPEAKER_00: Number one, it's solely based on social media pressure.
2:15:19
SPEAKER_00: And as we have learned a hundred times before, social media means shit in this world.
2:15:27
SPEAKER_00: This kid is going to play
2:15:31
SPEAKER_00: Well, no,
2:15:32
SPEAKER_00: he'll probably play a bunch of shows,
2:15:34
SPEAKER_00: but he'll probably play a dozen before people realize that it just doesn't matter,
2:15:38
SPEAKER_00: that it's still fucking not really Quiet Riot.
2:15:42
SPEAKER_00: It's Quiet Riot-like.
2:15:44
SPEAKER_01: It's a band that sounds like Quiet Riot.
2:15:47
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's a Quiet Riot tribute band.
2:15:50
SPEAKER_00: It is.
2:15:50
SPEAKER_01: It's a tribute band.
2:15:53
SPEAKER_00: And this...
2:15:54
SPEAKER_00: This immediate crazy, and there's a crazy buzz on this move.
2:16:00
SPEAKER_00: Dude, I put up this thing this morning about this thing, and I'm looking at it right now.
2:16:06
SPEAKER_00: 366 likes, 109 comments.
2:16:09
SPEAKER_00: I put it up this morning.
2:16:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's crazy talk for our start.
2:16:14
SPEAKER_01: Where did you put that up?
2:16:15
SPEAKER_01: On Facebook.
2:16:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's on Facebook.
2:16:18
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:16:20
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, 366 people gave a fuck enough to actually read it and comment on it.
2:16:25
SPEAKER_00: Which is surprising to me.
2:16:27
SPEAKER_00: But there's a big buzz on it.
2:16:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to lie.
2:16:29
SPEAKER_00: A lot of that buzz comes out of Stevie Rochelle
2:16:32
SPEAKER_00: and fucking hair metal guru sucking this kid's dick.
2:16:34
SPEAKER_00: And that's fine.
2:16:36
SPEAKER_00: They like the kid.
2:16:37
SPEAKER_00: And that's fine.
2:16:37
SPEAKER_00: I like the kid.
2:16:38
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's the one thing I have taken,
2:16:41
SPEAKER_00: me and you,
2:16:41
SPEAKER_00: even though I don't share it with you,
2:16:43
SPEAKER_00: we've taken a lot of shit for saying that this kid is fat.
2:16:47
SPEAKER_00: Well, he is fat.
2:16:49
SPEAKER_00: And I agree.
2:16:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm not taking it back.
2:16:52
SPEAKER_00: He needs to, if you're going to be serious in this world, you got to be serious in this world.
2:16:58
SPEAKER_00: It's not just having a good voice.
2:17:00
SPEAKER_00: That's only one piece of it.
2:17:03
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of,
2:17:04
SPEAKER_01: it's swagger,
2:17:06
SPEAKER_01: it's image, it's,
2:17:09
SPEAKER_01: you know,
2:17:09
SPEAKER_01: to be an entertainer,
2:17:11
SPEAKER_01: you have to,
2:17:13
SPEAKER_01: you know, you have to, there's certain parameters that you have to fit in.
2:17:19
SPEAKER_00: There's very, very few Fat singers.
2:17:28
SPEAKER_00: Certainly in metal.
2:17:30
SPEAKER_00: There's almost no fat singers because they were all doing tons of coke.
2:17:34
SPEAKER_00: So they weren't fat.
2:17:35
SPEAKER_00: They didn't eat.
2:17:36
SPEAKER_00: They just did coke all the time.
2:17:38
SPEAKER_00: So they were skinny.
2:17:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's a fact.
2:17:41
SPEAKER_00: Why do you think so many of these guys blew up?
2:17:43
SPEAKER_00: Why do you think Vince Neil gained 100 pounds?
2:17:45
SPEAKER_00: Because he probably stopped doing coke.
2:17:48
SPEAKER_00: Started doing fucking popsicles and blow pops and shit.
2:17:52
SPEAKER_01: And alcohol.
2:17:54
SPEAKER_00: And alcohol and, you know.
2:17:55
SPEAKER_01: Plays a lot of big, big part in that.
2:17:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:17:58
SPEAKER_00: And we've seen the food that these guys get backstage.
2:18:01
SPEAKER_00: It's not the steak and lobster you're thinking.
2:18:04
SPEAKER_00: It's a little styrofoam with a burger and some fucking greasy fries half the time.
2:18:08
SPEAKER_01: And pizza.
2:18:09
SPEAKER_00: And pizza.
2:18:11
SPEAKER_00: Lots of pizza.
2:18:13
SPEAKER_00: You know.
2:18:14
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, the weird thing with this kid, I really do think this kid is talented.
2:18:20
SPEAKER_00: My biggest,
2:18:20
SPEAKER_00: biggest fear for this kid is He's literally his career's over before it starts
2:18:26
SPEAKER_00: because just like James Durbin,
2:18:29
SPEAKER_00: he's going to leave this band or the band's going to quit or whatever at some point.
2:18:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, how long can they keep doing this?
2:18:35
SPEAKER_00: And what's going to happen then?
2:18:38
SPEAKER_00: He's going to be Doogie White.
2:18:39
SPEAKER_00: He's going to be Mark Bowles.
2:18:41
SPEAKER_00: He's going to be Ronnie Romero.
2:18:44
SPEAKER_00: Guys that were in big bands and can never do anything about it because it holds them back.
2:18:50
SPEAKER_01: That label.
2:18:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:18:51
SPEAKER_01: And not only that, but he's a Kevin Dubrow sound alike.
2:18:57
SPEAKER_01: He's not a chameleon singer.
2:19:00
SPEAKER_02: He can be.
2:19:01
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you really go out there and look at some of his other stuff,
2:19:05
SPEAKER_00: like he does like Cinderella pretty well.
2:19:07
SPEAKER_00: He does that sound, that kind of gravelly sound very well.
2:19:14
SPEAKER_00: He does do other bands, but again...
2:19:18
SPEAKER_00: What is that going to do?
2:19:19
SPEAKER_00: That is a style of music that is deader than fucking Kevin,
2:19:24
SPEAKER_00: you know, and what's he going to do after?
2:19:31
SPEAKER_00: He's not going to be able to go back to his band Fire and Ice and say,
2:19:34
SPEAKER_00: okay, let's fire it up again.
2:19:36
SPEAKER_00: Nobody's going to care.
2:19:37
SPEAKER_00: Everybody's going to be like, you're the guy that was fucking the eighth singer in Quiet Riot.
2:19:42
SPEAKER_00: And that doesn't hold a lot of juice.
2:19:45
SPEAKER_00: The only one that has held that That gig that still has any juice is probably Jizzy.
2:19:54
SPEAKER_00: But I think he has juice because he had other bands.
2:19:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, he had an original band.
2:19:58
SPEAKER_01: He had his original band that made it.
2:20:01
SPEAKER_00: That was moderately successful, I guess.
2:20:04
SPEAKER_00: But he also was in other big bands.
2:20:06
SPEAKER_00: He was in LA Guns and he was in Rat.
2:20:08
SPEAKER_00: He has a pedigree.
2:20:14
SPEAKER_00: You know,
2:20:14
SPEAKER_00: when's the last time you heard about that big Scott Vokun fucking show or Keith St.
2:20:20
SPEAKER_00: John?
2:20:22
SPEAKER_00: And I'm not trying to even rag on those guys either.
2:20:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying when you join one of these bands and then you're out of said band, you're done.
2:20:34
SPEAKER_00: You're Mark forever.
2:20:35
SPEAKER_00: Look at fucking how you're typecast.
2:20:39
SPEAKER_00: You are.
2:20:40
SPEAKER_00: Look at fucking our friend Sean Sheldon.
2:20:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:20:44
SPEAKER_00: Sean Sheldon did this band.
2:20:47
SPEAKER_00: What has he done since?
2:20:50
SPEAKER_00: The Westfield Massacre.
2:20:51
SPEAKER_00: He did one record, one tour, didn't go anywhere, and he was gone.
2:20:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:20:56
SPEAKER_00: We haven't heard from him.
2:20:57
SPEAKER_00: I hear from him every once in a while.
2:20:58
SPEAKER_00: He's, like, all involved in AI music development and stuff.
2:21:01
SPEAKER_01: Well, when we met him, he was trying to break out as a solo band.
2:21:09
SPEAKER_01: And he released some solo stuff, which is how we kind of became associated with him.
2:21:17
SPEAKER_01: And then once he kind of became known, then he was sought after to do other things.
2:21:25
SPEAKER_01: I know he stepped in and sang for Icon.
2:21:27
SPEAKER_01: I played some Icon here recently.
2:21:30
SPEAKER_01: He was in Bobby Blotzer's Rat?
2:21:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was doing Bobby Blotzer's Rat,
2:21:35
SPEAKER_01: and he did,
2:21:36
SPEAKER_01: obviously,
2:21:36
SPEAKER_01: Quiet Riot and wrote a record with them,
2:21:39
SPEAKER_01: and they kind of fucked him over with that thing.
2:21:44
SPEAKER_01: And then he joined that death metal band.
2:21:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that Westfield Massacre.
2:21:49
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:21:51
SPEAKER_00: My thing with Tora is Tora is...
2:21:55
SPEAKER_00: Not vocally, but as far as this career move goes, this is like a replay of James Durbin.
2:22:02
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
2:22:03
SPEAKER_00: James Durbin had a ton of buzz on him from American Idol.
2:22:07
SPEAKER_00: A ton of buzz on him.
2:22:10
SPEAKER_00: He did Quiet Riot.
2:22:12
SPEAKER_00: It stiffed.
2:22:13
SPEAKER_00: Both records that they did did not do well.
2:22:16
SPEAKER_00: You know, one, obviously, because there was all the noise with Sheldon or Sean.
2:22:23
SPEAKER_00: But then the other one,
2:22:24
SPEAKER_00: what was it, Hollywood Cowboys or whatever that was called, didn't do dick.
2:22:29
SPEAKER_00: And then they got rid of Durbin, brought Jizzy back.
2:22:34
SPEAKER_00: And even Jizzy.
2:22:35
SPEAKER_00: This is one of the funny things, too, in this Facebook thing.
2:22:40
SPEAKER_00: Because I just threw it out there to let people know that we were going
2:22:43
SPEAKER_00: to be talking about this tonight.
2:22:45
SPEAKER_00: And A lot of the comments, like I said, there's over 100 comments.
2:22:50
SPEAKER_00: A lot of them are like, well, they need to get it together and put out new music.
2:22:54
SPEAKER_00: They're not going to put out new music.
2:22:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, who's going to buy it?
2:22:59
SPEAKER_01: What's the purpose of that?
2:23:01
SPEAKER_01: Nobody's going to buy anything.
2:23:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:23:06
SPEAKER_00: Who's looking for that?
2:23:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:23:08
SPEAKER_01: And whatever you're listening to,
2:23:10
SPEAKER_01: you're going to hear it on Spotify or Pandora or YouTube Music or whatever
2:23:16
SPEAKER_01: the case may be.
2:23:18
SPEAKER_01: So there's no benefit for the band, whatever that is, to
2:23:25
SPEAKER_00: do that.
2:23:26
SPEAKER_00: They would have to lose money to do it.
2:23:29
SPEAKER_00: And this isn't that kind of band.
2:23:32
SPEAKER_00: They're a band in a sense that those four guys get up on stage every Friday and Saturday night.
2:23:38
SPEAKER_00: That is what that band does.
2:23:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and they may get 16 grand to do it.
2:23:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which is fine.
2:23:49
SPEAKER_00: Again, I'm not trying to say they're not active or semi-successful or whatever.
2:23:56
SPEAKER_00: What I'm saying is it's not a band that In the sense of, well,
2:24:01
SPEAKER_00: you know, they're on tour right now getting ready to put together that next album.
2:24:05
SPEAKER_00: And that day is done for Quiet Riot.
2:24:10
SPEAKER_00: That day, that ability is laying under two headstones somewhere.
2:24:15
SPEAKER_00: It's not there anymore.
2:24:17
SPEAKER_00: It's just not there for them anymore.
2:24:20
SPEAKER_00: And John Tora, young kid, I don't think that...
2:24:26
SPEAKER_00: It's going to be to his benefit.
2:24:27
SPEAKER_00: I really don't.
2:24:28
SPEAKER_00: And I hope I'm wrong.
2:24:31
SPEAKER_01: Well, unless he's not looking at this in the long term,
2:24:36
SPEAKER_01: he's just looking at it as,
2:24:38
SPEAKER_01: holy shit, I have this opportunity to sing for Quiet Riot.
2:24:42
SPEAKER_01: And when it's over, it's just like, yeah, that was a good run.
2:24:46
SPEAKER_00: Which is fine for him, but it's not going to – when he's done and he's 28 –
2:24:54
SPEAKER_00: Then he's going to realize, holy shit, no one wants to fucking bring me in anymore.
2:24:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've got to go back to work in the warehouse now.
2:25:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what I mean.
2:25:02
SPEAKER_00: It's going to be painting houses with Mark Huff.
2:25:10
SPEAKER_00: And again, I want to be wrong on this.
2:25:13
SPEAKER_00: I want to be very clear on this.
2:25:15
SPEAKER_00: Because I have taken a beating and a half for not just fucking sucking this kid's dick.
2:25:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, again, you see it for reality.
2:25:23
SPEAKER_01: I mean, well,
2:25:26
SPEAKER_01: let's go back to somebody we know personally and who had the biggest break
2:25:32
SPEAKER_01: of his career.
2:25:34
SPEAKER_01: And fortunately for him,
2:25:36
SPEAKER_01: because he's talented and can continue on doing what he does,
2:25:42
SPEAKER_01: our good friend, Tim Ripper Owens.
2:25:44
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
2:25:45
SPEAKER_01: He got the biggest break of his career Replacing Rob Halford in Judas Priest for a while.
2:25:52
SPEAKER_01: Recorded two albums, toured blah, blah, blah.
2:25:56
SPEAKER_01: Rob Halford come back.
2:25:57
SPEAKER_01: They kick him to the curb like, you know, trash.
2:26:02
SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, Rob Halford, iconic.
2:26:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, fortunately for Tim, because he's talented, he's done solo stuff.
2:26:11
SPEAKER_01: He's formed other bands.
2:26:14
SPEAKER_01: He's...
2:26:14
SPEAKER_01: Worked with our artists.
2:26:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, now he's doing KK's Priest, which is basically a tribute to Judas Priest.
2:26:24
SPEAKER_01: But they have, you know, original material.
2:26:29
SPEAKER_01: And they're, quote unquote, opening up for Wasp on this current tour.
2:26:36
SPEAKER_01: You know, but Tim is a prime example.
2:26:40
SPEAKER_01: If he wasn't so resourceful in his...
2:26:44
SPEAKER_01: Drive to be an artist and a musician.
2:26:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:26:50
SPEAKER_01: He could very well be loading trucks on a dock in Akron.
2:26:55
SPEAKER_01: He could be.
2:26:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:26:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:26:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Tim is, I'll say this about Tim.
2:27:00
SPEAKER_00: He's the hardest worker probably of anybody.
2:27:03
SPEAKER_00: He is.
2:27:04
SPEAKER_00: He's constantly, constantly doing things.
2:27:10
SPEAKER_00: He's in Bulgaria doing shows for a night of Yngwie music with his era
2:27:19
SPEAKER_00: Yngwie
2:27:19
SPEAKER_00: or obviously the KK's Priest thing now,
2:27:22
SPEAKER_00: but he was doing Judas Priest covers on his own and obviously had Beyond Fear for a
2:27:28
SPEAKER_00: while.
2:27:29
SPEAKER_00: He had that band with Chris Caffrey.
2:27:31
SPEAKER_00: What was that, A New Revenge or something?
2:27:33
SPEAKER_00: Remember that band?
2:27:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, something like that.
2:27:35
SPEAKER_00: Like a new revenge?
2:27:36
SPEAKER_01: And then, of course, the movie Rockstar was kind of based on his life.
2:27:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that didn't help him.
2:27:44
SPEAKER_01: No, it didn't help him,
2:27:46
SPEAKER_01: but the point is this kind of was a snapshot of a guy,
2:27:54
SPEAKER_01: blue-collar working guy in a tribute band who got his big break.
2:28:01
SPEAKER_01: Which is what this kid is all about.
2:28:02
SPEAKER_01: He's in a tribute band.
2:28:04
SPEAKER_00: He tribute to the 80s
2:28:07
SPEAKER_01: music.
2:28:08
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, it's called Fire and Ice.
2:28:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Fire and Ice, yeah.
2:28:12
SPEAKER_01: Which is Cinderella, obviously.
2:28:14
SPEAKER_01: And you said he sings kind of Tom Kiefer-ish.
2:28:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we can play some.
2:28:18
SPEAKER_00: It's not hard to find.
2:28:20
SPEAKER_00: Let me find it.
2:28:21
SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
2:28:23
SPEAKER_01: But he's akin to Tim Ripper Owens.
2:28:28
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
2:28:32
SPEAKER_01: But Tim has been doing music in various forms,
2:28:36
SPEAKER_01: you know,
2:28:37
SPEAKER_01: regardless of its covering Priest or doing,
2:28:42
SPEAKER_01: you know,
2:28:43
SPEAKER_01: doing his other,
2:28:44
SPEAKER_01: what was his original band that he did in Akron for the longest time?
2:28:48
SPEAKER_01: U.S. Steel?
2:28:50
SPEAKER_00: U.S. Steel?
2:28:50
SPEAKER_00: British Steel?
2:28:51
SPEAKER_01: No, that wasn't it.
2:28:53
SPEAKER_01: Tim?
2:28:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was in the heart of the hunter or the heart of-
2:28:58
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Winter's Bane.
2:29:00
SPEAKER_01: There you go, Winter's Bane.
2:29:01
SPEAKER_01: That's the one I was looking for.
2:29:02
SPEAKER_01: So he's no stranger to performing and working and trying to establish himself, but-
2:29:17
SPEAKER_01: He has had the opportunity to work with so many people.
2:29:21
SPEAKER_01: You know, he worked with, what's his name?
2:29:29
SPEAKER_01: The album that he did with Iced Earth.
2:29:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh, John Schaefer?
2:29:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he worked with John Schaefer and Iced Earth and released an album in that, you know.
2:29:43
SPEAKER_01: So he's had the opportunity to kind of jump from,
2:29:46
SPEAKER_01: you know, band, a band, a band, a gig, the gig, but he's always working.
2:29:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:29:54
SPEAKER_00: Always.
2:29:56
SPEAKER_00: No, he's always working.
2:29:57
SPEAKER_00: And, and even like, even when he has downtime, I constantly see him on, on the socials.
2:30:05
SPEAKER_00: Hey, I've got five days off.
2:30:08
SPEAKER_00: Anybody needs a vocal.
2:30:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, let's do it.
2:30:12
SPEAKER_00: Look, he was doing Leviathan Project with Tommy Crash.
2:30:18
SPEAKER_01: Right.
2:30:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, he's willing to work.
2:30:23
SPEAKER_00: He's always willing to work.
2:30:24
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:30:25
SPEAKER_00: Well, here's John Torres singing Metal Health from July.
2:30:30
SPEAKER_00: So not that long ago.
2:30:32
SPEAKER_00: So this is apparently what's going to get him the gig.
2:30:35
SPEAKER_02: That's him in the middle.
2:30:36
SPEAKER_02: That's not Meatloaf.
2:30:36
SPEAKER_02: That's him.
2:30:37
SPEAKER_01: That's John Torres.
2:30:40
SPEAKER_01: Well, he looks like Meatloaf.
2:30:41
SPEAKER_01: He does.
2:30:42
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
2:30:44
SPEAKER_01: He's a thick kid.
2:30:45
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
2:30:47
SPEAKER_01: He likes the Twinkies.
2:30:49
SPEAKER_00: And God bless him.
2:30:50
SPEAKER_00: So do I.
2:30:51
SPEAKER_00: But I'm not trying to be in a band either.
2:30:54
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:30:55
SPEAKER_00: Let's give him a listen.
2:30:56
SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
2:31:01
SPEAKER_03: If it's mental health you want, it is mental health you will get.
2:31:07
[music]
2:32:33
SPEAKER_00: Sounds fine, I guess.
2:32:34
SPEAKER_01: He sounds like Kevin
2:32:37
SPEAKER_00: DeBrow.
2:32:39
SPEAKER_00: He doesn't look the part.
2:32:40
SPEAKER_00: That's the part that I have the real issue with.
2:32:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:32:44
SPEAKER_00: And not me personally.
2:32:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I could give a shit.
2:32:47
SPEAKER_00: He could gain another 100 pounds.
2:32:48
SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
2:32:48
SPEAKER_01: He could sing.
2:32:49
SPEAKER_01: He could sing.
2:32:50
SPEAKER_01: You know who he looks like?
2:32:52
SPEAKER_01: Who?
2:32:52
SPEAKER_01: He looks like a fat Freddie Mercury from back in the 70s.
2:32:57
SPEAKER_01: He kind of does.
2:32:58
SPEAKER_01: He does.
2:32:59
SPEAKER_01: He looks like a fat Freddie Mercury.
2:33:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:33:04
SPEAKER_00: I just don't see fans.
2:33:06
SPEAKER_01: Gravitating toward that.
2:33:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't.
2:33:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:33:10
SPEAKER_00: It's just not how that works.
2:33:13
SPEAKER_00: It's never worked that way before.
2:33:16
SPEAKER_00: And I'm waiting for anybody to give me one example of when it has worked.
2:33:21
SPEAKER_01: Well, here's the thing.
2:33:23
SPEAKER_01: If Quiet Riot was still a hot property,
2:33:27
SPEAKER_01: as it were,
2:33:27
SPEAKER_01: and they were still a recording artist,
2:33:31
SPEAKER_01: if this kid went in the studio and cut a Quiet Riot album in the
2:33:41
SPEAKER_01: fashion of
2:33:42
SPEAKER_01: a Kevin Dubrow, people would not know the difference.
2:33:47
SPEAKER_01: Probably not, no.
2:33:48
SPEAKER_01: They would go, holy shit, listen to this new Quiet Riot.
2:33:52
SPEAKER_01: Kevin sounds great.
2:33:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but who's going to listen?
2:33:57
SPEAKER_01: That's the real problem.
2:33:58
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what I said.
2:34:01
SPEAKER_01: If they were still in a hot ticket and people were still looking
2:34:08
SPEAKER_01: for Quiet Riot new music,
2:34:11
SPEAKER_01: because Quiet Riot did release one or two albums with Kevin Dubrow,
2:34:17
SPEAKER_01: In the 90s and the 2000s, and I don't think they did shit.
2:34:21
SPEAKER_00: No, remember our guy John Kivel put one out, I believe, didn't he?
2:34:25
SPEAKER_01: Yes, he did.
2:34:25
SPEAKER_01: I believe he did.
2:34:28
SPEAKER_00: Or not Kivel, the one that died.
2:34:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
2:34:31
SPEAKER_01: Chavis.
2:34:32
SPEAKER_01: Chavis.
2:34:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Chavis did one.
2:34:34
SPEAKER_01: Didn't do anything.
2:34:36
SPEAKER_00: Didn't do, yeah.
2:34:37
SPEAKER_00: That was the one that Billy recorded or something, wasn't it?
2:34:40
SPEAKER_00: I think so.
2:34:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they did several albums nobody cared about.
2:34:45
SPEAKER_00: Nobody cared about Guilty Pleasures.
2:34:47
SPEAKER_00: Remember that record for 10 seconds?
2:34:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:34:50
SPEAKER_00: And that was with Kevin.
2:34:52
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it was.
2:34:55
SPEAKER_00: But let's be honest, too.
2:34:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're out there on the road.
2:34:58
SPEAKER_00: You could talk more about this than me because I don't know.
2:35:01
SPEAKER_00: Choir Riot is not a headliner, are they?
2:35:04
SPEAKER_01: No, they always are packaged with somebody.
2:35:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but they're the opener always, right?
2:35:09
SPEAKER_00: Typically, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, what, they have two, maybe three songs?
2:36:03
SPEAKER_00: Well, let's see.
2:36:03
SPEAKER_00: They got Winners Take All, Slick Black Cadillac, Come On, Feel the Noise, Metal Health.
2:36:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:36:12
SPEAKER_00: Anything else?
2:36:13
SPEAKER_00: Stomp your hands, clap your feet?
2:36:15
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't think people sit around and go, I hope they play that one.
2:36:18
SPEAKER_00: I hope so.
2:36:20
SPEAKER_00: No.
2:36:21
SPEAKER_00: And I'm hoping for that Condition Critical theme song there.
2:36:25
SPEAKER_00: Hope we get that.
2:36:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:36:27
SPEAKER_01: So aside from Metal Health, does anyone have any real interest in Quiet Riot?
2:36:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
2:36:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
2:36:38
SPEAKER_01: No, that's the benchmark album for them.
2:36:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:36:44
SPEAKER_00: If they want to do something smart with this kid, they start doing some Shortino songs as well.
2:36:50
SPEAKER_00: That would be at least something different.
2:36:54
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
2:36:54
SPEAKER_00: If they played the Wild and the... No, that was Kevin, wasn't it?
2:36:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was.
2:36:59
SPEAKER_00: That was a hit.
2:36:59
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to add that to the list.
2:37:02
SPEAKER_00: Play one of the Shortino tunes.
2:37:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember what the hit was on that.
2:37:07
SPEAKER_01: The hit.
2:37:08
SPEAKER_00: Well, they didn't have more than one, did they?
2:37:11
SPEAKER_00: You only did one record, right?
2:37:15
SPEAKER_01: That was such a convoluted time.
2:37:17
SPEAKER_00: It was weird.
2:37:19
SPEAKER_00: And I had long, dude, even as a kid, I checked out on Quiet Riot with Condition Critical.
2:37:26
SPEAKER_00: I was like, just fucking flatline.
2:37:27
SPEAKER_00: It stinks.
2:37:29
SPEAKER_00: Condition Critical was a bad record, man.
2:37:34
SPEAKER_00: It was a bad record that also had winners take all.
2:37:37
SPEAKER_01: So it was Quiet Riot 3.
2:37:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:37:40
SPEAKER_01: I think that was with Shortino, right?
2:37:42
SPEAKER_00: This is Wild and the Young on it?
2:37:46
SPEAKER_01: Let's see here.
2:37:46
SPEAKER_01: Because that's Kevin.
2:37:48
SPEAKER_01: Main attraction, The Wild and the Young.
2:37:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's Kevin.
2:37:52
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:37:53
SPEAKER_00: I think it's just called Quiet Riot.
2:37:56
SPEAKER_00: It was like a red cover.
2:37:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:37:58
SPEAKER_00: I think.
2:38:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember.
2:38:04
SPEAKER_00: Quiet.
2:38:05
SPEAKER_00: Quiet Riot.
2:38:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's
2:38:10
SPEAKER_01: just 1988 Quiet Riot.
2:38:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:38:17
SPEAKER_01: Stay with me tonight.
2:38:19
SPEAKER_01: Call in the shots.
2:38:20
SPEAKER_01: Run to you.
2:38:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm Fallen,
2:38:22
SPEAKER_01: King of the Hill,
2:38:23
SPEAKER_01: The Joker, Lunar Obsession, Don't Want to Be Your Fool, Coppin' a Feel.
2:38:32
SPEAKER_01: Wonderful.
2:38:33
SPEAKER_01: In a Rush and Empty Promises.
2:38:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't know any of those.
2:38:37
SPEAKER_00: I think King of the Hill
2:38:38
SPEAKER_02: was this song.
2:38:40
SPEAKER_02: Are you sure?
2:38:41
SPEAKER_02: I think.
2:38:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:38:44
SPEAKER_02: King of the Hill, huh?
2:38:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember for sure, but.
2:38:48
SPEAKER_01: All right, let's take a listen.
2:38:50
[music]
2:39:16
SPEAKER_02: It was Stay With Me Tonight.
2:39:18
SPEAKER_02: I just looked it up.
2:39:19
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so that was the lead off track.
2:39:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:39:22
[music]
2:40:01
SPEAKER_03: I do not know this song at all.
2:40:05
SPEAKER_03: That
2:40:08
SPEAKER_01: sounds nothing like choir.
2:40:10
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't know that song at all.
2:40:14
SPEAKER_02: Maybe they don't want to do that.
2:40:15
SPEAKER_02: Maybe that's a bad idea.
2:40:18
SPEAKER_00: I'll admit that I had a bad idea.
2:40:19
SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
2:40:22
SPEAKER_00: Don't do that.
2:40:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just...
2:40:27
SPEAKER_00: You know,
2:40:27
SPEAKER_00: it's a weird thing because,
2:40:29
SPEAKER_00: you know, I mean, in the end, we are fans of this style of music.
2:40:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't think either one of us is flying the quiet riot flag.
2:40:37
SPEAKER_00: No.
2:40:39
SPEAKER_00: But I'd love to see this kid have some kind of success.
2:40:43
SPEAKER_00: I just hate the fact that what it's going to end up being is that he's going
2:40:47
SPEAKER_00: to be Ronnie Romero'd.
2:40:48
SPEAKER_01: Well, see, here's this.
2:40:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to make a comparison to the discussion we had opening this segment.
2:40:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:40:58
SPEAKER_01: So we talk about Mariah and plush and she,
2:41:03
SPEAKER_01: you know,
2:41:04
SPEAKER_01: she kind of made her early debut, um, covering a lot of eighties style music.
2:41:15
SPEAKER_01: Right.
2:41:16
SPEAKER_01: And, and she's still kind of still does that kind of stuff.
2:41:21
SPEAKER_01: And this is what this kid is doing.
2:41:23
SPEAKER_01: He's paying tribute to an era.
2:41:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:41:26
SPEAKER_01: And if that era tribute does not last very long, that's where he's pigeonholed.
2:41:35
SPEAKER_01: He is a covers singer of a certain era.
2:41:41
SPEAKER_01: And if that era is not the most popular thing at the time, he's pigeonholed into that thing.
2:41:49
SPEAKER_01: And so is Plush because Mariah is...
2:41:53
SPEAKER_01: A fan obviously of that eighties style music.
2:41:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:42:00
SPEAKER_00: Well, and,
2:42:01
SPEAKER_00: and with,
2:42:02
SPEAKER_00: with plush,
2:42:03
SPEAKER_00: the biggest thing problem with them is that they didn't explore the others.
2:42:06
SPEAKER_00: Like Mariah is not really,
2:42:09
SPEAKER_00: she's into like more,
2:42:11
SPEAKER_00: I don't dare call this modern,
2:42:13
SPEAKER_00: but like Korn and stuff like that, she's way into that stuff.
2:42:16
SPEAKER_01: And the 90s stuff.
2:42:18
SPEAKER_00: And even into the newer stuff, the In This Moment and stuff like that.
2:42:22
SPEAKER_00: But she doesn't perform that.
2:42:24
SPEAKER_00: No.
2:42:25
SPEAKER_00: So now trying to all of a sudden upgrade their sound to that is, it's a risk.
2:42:31
SPEAKER_00: And I'll be honest, I think it's a smart risk.
2:42:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if Plush would have done another...
2:42:38
SPEAKER_00: Album that sounds like Barracuda again,
2:42:41
SPEAKER_00: and that would have been it for them because they would never be able to break out
2:42:45
SPEAKER_00: of that.
2:42:45
SPEAKER_00: They had to change it up on this record.
2:42:48
SPEAKER_00: What they need to do is write 10 more songs and go right back to the studio
2:42:51
SPEAKER_00: and have another album in a year to establish,
2:42:54
SPEAKER_00: now that they've got that sound out there, go back and establish it.
2:42:58
SPEAKER_00: But that's a whole other discussion.
2:43:00
SPEAKER_00: With John Tora,
2:43:05
SPEAKER_00: he's painted himself into the corner.
2:43:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's a kid that is enamored with that era.
2:43:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but now he's stuck in that era because he's going to have a hard time coming out of it.
2:43:19
SPEAKER_00: He's not going to be.
2:43:21
SPEAKER_00: And that era is dying.
2:43:23
SPEAKER_00: That's the other piece of that puzzle that nobody's really saying either.
2:43:27
SPEAKER_00: I don't think any of these bands,
2:43:29
SPEAKER_00: any of them, Rat, Dokken, Warrant, Queensryche, whoever, Quiet Riot.
2:43:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't think any of those bands are going to be around in 10 years.
2:43:40
SPEAKER_00: They're all going to be gone.
2:43:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're going to be gone easily.
2:43:44
SPEAKER_00: I mean, guys are dying off left and right now.
2:43:51
SPEAKER_00: It's done.
2:43:52
SPEAKER_00: And even the clubs now and the tours and the Danny Wimmer shows and whatever,
2:44:00
SPEAKER_00: they're not putting these bands on those shows anymore.
2:44:02
SPEAKER_00: It's stacked heavily into the late 90s and early 2000s now.
2:44:07
SPEAKER_00: It's Candlebox,
2:44:08
SPEAKER_00: it's Primer 55,
2:44:09
SPEAKER_00: it's Spineshank,
2:44:11
SPEAKER_00: it's Slipknot, it's, you know, that's who's playing these festivals now.
2:44:16
SPEAKER_00: We're getting the last Gaspers, and they're the biggest of the big ones.
2:44:19
SPEAKER_00: They're Slayer, they're Iron Maiden, they're Metallica.
2:44:24
SPEAKER_00: You know, you're not seeing Icon anymore.
2:44:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, didn't M3 last year narrow down to one day?
2:44:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because that was like a three-day thing.
2:44:37
SPEAKER_00: With a fourth day that was always like the pre-show party.
2:44:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:44:42
SPEAKER_00: It started as like four days if you count the pre-show.
2:44:46
SPEAKER_00: Last year it was one day.
2:44:48
SPEAKER_00: And I'm willing to bet you it's either going to turn into 90s,
2:44:51
SPEAKER_00: 2000s fest in another year or two, or it's going to fold up its tent.
2:44:56
SPEAKER_00: Has to.
2:44:59
SPEAKER_00: You can't think that fucking 75-year-old guys with oxygen tanks are going
2:45:03
SPEAKER_00: to come out to a field and watch a show.
2:45:08
SPEAKER_00: You know, as dumb as this sounds, it's not only about the age of the bands.
2:45:14
SPEAKER_00: The age of the audience is just as important.
2:45:18
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
2:45:19
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean.
2:45:21
SPEAKER_01: They're in their 60s.
2:45:23
SPEAKER_01: They're in their mid to late 50s.
2:45:26
SPEAKER_01: They're in their 60s.
2:45:27
SPEAKER_01: They're heading toward 70.
2:45:30
SPEAKER_00: And just don't want to trudge around.
2:45:34
SPEAKER_00: In the woods or out in a field to see a fucking band anymore.
2:45:39
SPEAKER_00: I mean, dude, when Quiet Riot came out, you were what?
2:45:44
SPEAKER_00: About 18, 19?
2:45:45
SPEAKER_00: When they hit?
2:45:46
SPEAKER_00: When Metal Health?
2:45:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, I was working at Camelot when Metal Health came out.
2:45:52
SPEAKER_01: That was in 82.
2:45:54
SPEAKER_01: 83.
2:45:54
SPEAKER_01: 83.
2:45:54
SPEAKER_00: So I was 19.
2:45:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so
2:45:55
SPEAKER_02: you're 19.
2:45:56
SPEAKER_01: I was like 15 or so, 16.
2:45:58
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
2:45:58
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
2:46:03
SPEAKER_00: 15, you know, and yeah, well, now I'm almost 60.
2:46:10
SPEAKER_00: Now you're pushing 65.
2:46:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'll be 63, but yeah.
2:46:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, you're pushing 65, maybe a light push, but you're getting to that point.
2:46:20
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
2:46:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's their age market.
2:46:23
SPEAKER_00: That's the Quiet Riot market.
2:46:26
SPEAKER_00: And that market is not going to go stand for four hours and In some shitty club
2:46:35
SPEAKER_00: in downtown Detroit.
2:46:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:46:40
SPEAKER_01: On a Friday or a Saturday night.
2:46:42
SPEAKER_01: They're just not going to do it.
2:46:44
SPEAKER_01: Just go to find parking and,
2:46:46
SPEAKER_01: you know,
2:46:46
SPEAKER_01: make your way into the club and hang out at the bar and wait for the show to start
2:46:51
SPEAKER_01: and all that other stuff.
2:46:53
SPEAKER_00: And then look at the stage and see a bunch of guys that aren't the guys you wanted to see.
2:46:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:47:00
SPEAKER_01: And then you see a guy who's 20, whatever he is, 22, 23 years old.
2:47:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:47:06
SPEAKER_01: It's like, holy shit, this could be my grandson.
2:47:10
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
2:47:11
SPEAKER_00: Not my son.
2:47:13
SPEAKER_00: Not my son, my grandson.
2:47:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:47:19
SPEAKER_00: Again, I hope I'm wrong.
2:47:21
SPEAKER_00: I really do hope I'm wrong with this one because I don't want, I got nothing against this kid.
2:47:27
SPEAKER_00: And I know a lot of, dude, me and you have gotten so much fucking abuse.
2:47:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so what?
2:47:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't care.
2:47:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying I don't understand why,
2:47:36
SPEAKER_00: because I think we've said repeatedly, we would like this to work for this kid.
2:47:43
SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily for Alex,
2:47:46
SPEAKER_00: because he's a cunt, but for this kid, I would really like to see this work.
2:47:54
SPEAKER_00: But I just don't see it.
2:47:55
SPEAKER_00: I can't.
2:47:57
SPEAKER_00: Even find a scenario to where it
2:47:59
SPEAKER_01: could work.
2:48:00
SPEAKER_01: Well, it'll work for the live setting for a short time.
2:48:05
SPEAKER_00: For a month, a month of shows, 20 shows.
2:48:10
SPEAKER_00: After that, it's done.
2:48:12
SPEAKER_00: After all the social media groupie people.
2:48:16
SPEAKER_00: First of all,
2:48:16
SPEAKER_00: if there's 10,000 social media dickwads that are supporting this kid,
2:48:21
SPEAKER_00: that means that probably 40% might go see him.
2:48:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but the thing is,
2:48:27
SPEAKER_01: people are going to show up to these quiet riot shows for whatever it's worth.
2:48:35
SPEAKER_01: And they're going to go,
2:48:36
SPEAKER_01: and again, this is going to sound callous, but who's this fat kid on stage?
2:48:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:48:45
SPEAKER_00: When every other singer they've ever had wasn't.
2:48:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:48:49
SPEAKER_01: I mean, even Jizzy at 60, whatever he is, 63, 64 years old, he's kept himself in shape.
2:48:56
SPEAKER_00: Look, before they could get this kid ready to go,
2:48:59
SPEAKER_00: they got fucking the Pastor McMaster out there, another real skinny singer.
2:49:05
SPEAKER_00: And he was up there.
2:49:06
SPEAKER_00: He did a show or two in the last,
2:49:08
SPEAKER_00: or I think he did one maybe last night, and he did one the week before or something.
2:49:12
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:49:13
SPEAKER_00: You know, but I mean, what does Jason McMaster weigh?
2:49:16
SPEAKER_00: 140 pounds at 6 foot 8 or whatever he is.
2:49:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's skinny.
2:49:24
SPEAKER_00: That dude looks like he's never seen food.
2:49:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, so I don't know.
2:49:34
SPEAKER_00: Godspeed, John Tora.
2:49:36
SPEAKER_00: I hope you do well.
2:49:37
SPEAKER_00: I hope you get whatever it is you need to get out of this thing.
2:49:41
SPEAKER_00: Because I just see it as ending your career before it starts.
2:49:45
SPEAKER_00: That's just me.
2:49:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but does he have a career?
2:49:50
SPEAKER_00: Well, he had a better chance of establishing a career as himself than as the guy
2:49:57
SPEAKER_00: from Quiet Riot.
2:49:59
SPEAKER_00: I just don't believe that being attached to a 50-year-old band helps a young kid.
2:50:07
SPEAKER_00: Nope, it doesn't.
2:50:09
SPEAKER_00: I don't believe that that's ever going to mean anything to anybody.
2:50:12
SPEAKER_01: Unless, of course, he's just living for the fact that, wow, I had this opportunity.
2:50:19
SPEAKER_01: He's like the kid...
2:50:22
SPEAKER_01: And again, I'm just making a scenario here.
2:50:25
SPEAKER_01: He's like the kid who scored the winning touchdown pass in high school.
2:50:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's Al
2:50:30
SPEAKER_01: Bundy.
2:50:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
2:50:33
SPEAKER_01: And then you meet him in the bar 30 years later
2:50:35
SPEAKER_01: and he's still wearing his letterman's jacket, you know.
2:50:41
SPEAKER_02: Still telling that story.
2:50:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:50:44
SPEAKER_01: You know, he's 40 years old and still wearing his letterman's jacket from high school, you know.
2:50:50
SPEAKER_01: He'll have the best time.
2:50:52
SPEAKER_01: Remember that time I threw that pass?
2:50:54
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
2:50:55
SPEAKER_01: You know, and we went to all conference.
2:50:59
SPEAKER_01: We were all state champions because of that.
2:51:01
SPEAKER_00: It's great.
2:51:03
SPEAKER_00: What else did you do in high school?
2:51:04
SPEAKER_00: It's wonderful.
2:51:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:51:06
SPEAKER_00: And John Toro will have the best stories to tell
2:51:08
SPEAKER_00: at his fucking 20th anniversary summer picnic at his work.
2:51:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:51:14
SPEAKER_00: That's when it'll be great for him.
2:51:16
SPEAKER_00: When he's 50 years old, he'll be like, remember that band, Quiet Riot?
2:51:20
SPEAKER_00: I was in that band for a minute.
2:51:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, about 10 minutes.
2:51:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure you were.
2:51:25
SPEAKER_01: This is Bruce Springsteen's glory days.
2:51:31
SPEAKER_00: Well, good luck to him.
2:51:32
SPEAKER_00: I hope it works out, I guess.
2:51:34
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
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2:53:13
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's do one more and then get the fuck out of here.
2:53:17
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:53:18
SPEAKER_00: This one, I know neither one of us respects this place, but why?
2:53:24
SPEAKER_00: Why is this important?
2:53:26
SPEAKER_00: And quite honestly,
2:53:29
SPEAKER_00: am I crazy and thinking every time J.J.
2:53:31
SPEAKER_00: French says something, it just sounds ridiculous?
2:53:34
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:53:35
SPEAKER_00: Every time this guy opens his mouth, he sounds like an idiot.
2:53:40
SPEAKER_00: So now J.J.'s out there saying...
2:53:44
SPEAKER_00: That the rock hall doesn't respect Twisted Sister,
2:53:48
SPEAKER_00: and that Twisted Sister should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
2:53:52
SPEAKER_01: Well,
2:53:53
SPEAKER_01: doesn't most musicians who care about that thing think that their band should be in
2:53:59
SPEAKER_01: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
2:54:01
SPEAKER_00: They may think it, but get a reality check here.
2:54:06
SPEAKER_00: And I am a Twisted Sister fan.
2:54:09
SPEAKER_00: I know nobody believes that after the Sebastian Bach bullshit.
2:54:13
SPEAKER_00: But I really do like Twisted Sister.
2:54:16
SPEAKER_00: Under the Blade and You Can't Stop Rock and Roll and Stay Hungry.
2:54:20
SPEAKER_00: Those are great records.
2:54:21
SPEAKER_00: They really are great records.
2:54:23
SPEAKER_00: And I even like the one with the, was it Love is for Suckers?
2:54:27
SPEAKER_00: I like that song.
2:54:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
2:54:29
SPEAKER_00: That was pretty good.
2:54:30
SPEAKER_00: And Hot Love was kind of catchy.
2:54:35
SPEAKER_00: So I am a Twisted Sister fan.
2:54:36
SPEAKER_00: I do like Twisted Sister.
2:54:39
SPEAKER_00: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame level?
2:54:43
SPEAKER_00: Same level as like Led Zeppelin or ACDC or Metallica or Motley Crue.
2:54:51
SPEAKER_00: Are you kidding?
2:54:53
SPEAKER_00: They weren't that band.
2:54:56
SPEAKER_00: They're another one.
2:54:57
SPEAKER_00: They're like Quiet Riot in this regard.
2:54:59
SPEAKER_00: They had one really big record.
2:55:02
SPEAKER_00: Stay Hungry was a really big record.
2:55:06
SPEAKER_00: None of the ones before it were.
2:55:08
SPEAKER_00: Nothing after it was.
2:55:10
SPEAKER_00: Didn't that, didn't,
2:55:13
SPEAKER_00: Love is for Suckers do so bad that they had to fucking leave whatever tour they were
2:55:18
SPEAKER_00: on halfway through the tour because they weren't selling tickets.
2:55:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it wasn't good.
2:55:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:55:23
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, that was when they were in their 20s.
2:55:26
SPEAKER_00: That was like 1988.
2:55:30
SPEAKER_00: Or was that come out and play?
2:55:31
SPEAKER_00: I don't think that was Love is for Suckers.
2:55:33
SPEAKER_00: I think it was come out and play, wasn't it?
2:55:36
SPEAKER_00: Wasn't that when they fell apart?
2:55:37
SPEAKER_00: Like it was on that come out and play?
2:55:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you got to realize that Twisted Sister had been together over a decade prior
2:55:47
SPEAKER_00: to that.
2:55:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but that means nothing as far as what people knew.
2:55:52
SPEAKER_00: People knew them from 1984 on.
2:55:55
SPEAKER_00: I know they got all that club days and all that other bullshit
2:55:58
SPEAKER_00: that they put out there from the early days and this and that.
2:56:03
SPEAKER_00: In 99% of the world's mind...
2:56:05
SPEAKER_00: Twisted Sister started when the We're Not Gonna Take It video hit MTV.
2:56:11
SPEAKER_00: That's when Twisted Sister started for people.
2:56:15
SPEAKER_00: So basically from there to one other album and they were done.
2:56:20
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember how, I don't know if you, did you buy Come Out and Play?
2:56:27
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
2:56:28
SPEAKER_00: I remember when I bought it.
2:56:30
SPEAKER_00: And I'm curious if you had the same reaction I did.
2:56:34
SPEAKER_00: I remember I bought it on vinyl.
2:56:36
SPEAKER_00: I put on my record player at my house.
2:56:38
SPEAKER_00: I was all excited.
2:56:39
SPEAKER_00: First song, pretty much kicks ass, that come out and play.
2:56:43
SPEAKER_00: Come on out and play.
2:56:45
SPEAKER_00: It's a kick-ass song.
2:56:46
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, yes, this is going to fucking rock.
2:56:50
SPEAKER_00: And then the very next song is the stupid Leader of the Pack cover.
2:56:57
SPEAKER_00: And it was like, whoa, what happened?
2:57:01
SPEAKER_00: What happened to my band?
2:57:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they did a 50s cover.
2:57:04
SPEAKER_01: The Leader of the Pack.
2:57:07
SPEAKER_00: It's so bad.
2:57:10
SPEAKER_00: That's what's crazy about it is it's not even a good cover.
2:57:13
SPEAKER_00: Let me find it real quick.
2:57:15
SPEAKER_00: I'll put that up there because that is so bad.
2:57:18
SPEAKER_00: Twisted Sister Leader of the Pack.
2:57:26
SPEAKER_00: There it is.
2:57:27
SPEAKER_00: Such a lousy video too.
2:57:34
SPEAKER_00: I met her at the candy store.
2:57:36
SPEAKER_00: I was hoping she was a whore.
2:57:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's the real lyrics, though.
2:57:45
[music]
2:58:04
SPEAKER_00: Hey, is
2:58:05
[music]
2:58:34
SPEAKER_00: So awful.
2:58:41
[music]
2:58:57
SPEAKER_00: This is so lousy.
2:58:59
SPEAKER_01: Isn't that bobcat gold?
2:59:01
SPEAKER_01: It is bobcat, yeah.
2:59:04
SPEAKER_00: That was their big get.
2:59:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:59:06
SPEAKER_00: Bobcat in their video.
2:59:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, this was just awful.
2:59:12
SPEAKER_00: And I just remember hearing it right after come out and play.
2:59:16
SPEAKER_00: I remember the album was even cool.
2:59:18
SPEAKER_00: It had the pop-up manhole cover thing on the, do you remember that?
2:59:22
SPEAKER_00: On the vinyl, you could open it and D would pop out of the fucking manhole and shit.
2:59:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was very cool packaging.
2:59:30
SPEAKER_00: And that first song kicks ass.
2:59:33
SPEAKER_00: But then it comes to this fucking song.
2:59:36
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oof, what happened?
2:59:39
SPEAKER_00: And then what are the other songs?
2:59:41
SPEAKER_00: This was a really crummy album.
2:59:43
SPEAKER_00: Let me find the track list for this, because if I remember right, this was really, really bad.
2:59:50
SPEAKER_00: It was such a letdown from Stay Hungry.
2:59:53
SPEAKER_00: Did you feel like that when you bought it?
2:59:55
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
2:59:57
SPEAKER_00: Just...
2:59:58
SPEAKER_00: Did you
2:59:58
SPEAKER_00: know or did you
2:59:59
SPEAKER_02: just buy it because it was Twisted Sister?
3:00:02
SPEAKER_01: I bought it because it was Twisted Sister.
3:00:04
SPEAKER_01: Same here.
3:00:04
SPEAKER_01: Well, again, you didn't understand the music industry at that point.
3:00:09
SPEAKER_02: Yes, correct.
3:00:10
SPEAKER_01: So you just sort of like, oh, well, this is going to be good.
3:00:14
SPEAKER_01: And then you're just like, well, it's kind of rushed.
3:00:17
SPEAKER_00: There's no kind about this.
3:00:18
SPEAKER_00: This is awful.
3:00:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, again, it was rushed.
3:00:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:00:22
SPEAKER_01: It's like, well, they were trying to capitalize on their popularity.
3:00:25
SPEAKER_01: And so they got, well, we got to put something out like right away.
3:00:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm just looking at the track list and every song here stinks.
3:00:33
SPEAKER_00: Be cruel to your school in the name of rock and roll.
3:00:40
SPEAKER_00: Just terrible.
3:00:41
SPEAKER_00: And they got Alice Cooper in that video too, if I remember right.
3:00:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because the school's out for the summer type thing.
3:00:50
SPEAKER_00: And then You Want What We Got, another garbage song.
3:00:53
SPEAKER_00: I want what you got.
3:00:55
SPEAKER_00: You got what we want.
3:00:57
SPEAKER_00: Ooh.
3:00:59
SPEAKER_00: And then, I Believe in Rock and Roll.
3:01:02
SPEAKER_02: Just cringy how bad this was.
3:01:06
SPEAKER_02: The Fire Still Burns was a pretty good song.
3:01:10
SPEAKER_02: Be Cruel to Your School was terrible.
3:01:13
SPEAKER_00: I Believe in You.
3:01:14
SPEAKER_00: I Believe in You.
3:01:16
SPEAKER_00: That's a ballad, right?
3:01:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:01:17
SPEAKER_00: I think.
3:01:19
SPEAKER_00: Out in the Streets, I don't even remember that.
3:01:22
SPEAKER_00: Looking Out for Number One, don't remember that.
3:01:26
SPEAKER_00: Kill or Be Killed, not good.
3:01:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this was not good.
3:01:30
SPEAKER_00: This was a really fucking shitbag album.
3:01:34
SPEAKER_00: Oof.
3:01:35
SPEAKER_00: But boy, did they have a lot of stars on it.
3:01:38
SPEAKER_00: Don Dokken was on it.
3:01:40
SPEAKER_00: Did you know that?
3:01:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because that's when they were touring with them.
3:01:43
SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, he sang on it.
3:01:45
SPEAKER_00: Alice Cooper, Brian Setzer, Billy Joel.
3:01:51
SPEAKER_01: These were all the hot artists at that time.
3:01:53
SPEAKER_01: That's what I mean.
3:01:54
SPEAKER_01: Because I think that that's when Billy Joel had We Didn't Start the Fire.
3:02:01
SPEAKER_00: Dude, just be cruel to your school.
3:02:03
SPEAKER_00: One of the worst songs in their entire catalog had Alice Cooper,
3:02:08
SPEAKER_00: Brian Setzer, Billy Joel, and Clarence Clemens on it.
3:02:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because.
3:02:14
SPEAKER_00: That's a lot of star power on a bag of shit song.
3:02:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course, you know, Bruce Springsteen and Stray Cats and, you know.
3:02:24
SPEAKER_01: And Billy Joel was
3:02:25
SPEAKER_00: hot at the time and Alice Cooper was hot at the time.
3:02:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:02:28
SPEAKER_01: And Dokken was on their back for the attack.
3:02:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, back for the attack.
3:02:31
SPEAKER_00: So they were hot at the time.
3:02:33
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
3:02:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:02:36
SPEAKER_00: That's a lot of big names for such a miserably bad song.
3:02:41
SPEAKER_00: Let me find that song real quick.
3:02:42
SPEAKER_00: That song.
3:02:44
SPEAKER_00: I got to remind people of that one so they don't think I'm just talking shit.
3:02:47
SPEAKER_00: That is a really crummy song.
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[music]
3:03:26
SPEAKER_00: Be cruel.
3:03:30
SPEAKER_00: C-H-R-O-L. Be cruel to your school.
3:03:33
SPEAKER_00: In the name of rock and roll.
3:03:37
SPEAKER_01: And there's Alice.
3:03:39
SPEAKER_01: And there he is.
3:03:49
SPEAKER_01: Come on.
3:03:50
SPEAKER_01: Spin, spin, spin, spin.
3:03:52
SPEAKER_01: What the fuck?
3:03:58
SPEAKER_00: Okay, D.
3:04:06
SPEAKER_03: Before I continue our little speech about job opportunities,
3:04:11
SPEAKER_03: I'd like to continue us with sharing about the leading experts of South America,
3:04:17
SPEAKER_03: right?
3:04:17
SPEAKER_03: We have what?
3:04:19
SPEAKER_03: Cheese balls, dust, saints,
3:04:24
SPEAKER_03: weasels, socks,
3:04:28
SPEAKER_03: I am not trying to say that making tacos is not a god-given ability,
3:04:33
SPEAKER_03: but this was a long, long time ago before we ever had pate as such.
3:04:40
SPEAKER_03: Now, you can hear the squirrel.
3:04:42
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of meat on a squirrel.
3:04:44
SPEAKER_00: You just gotta...
3:04:45
SPEAKER_00: Even the video is bad.
3:04:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember this video, but this is not good.
3:04:53
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's see where it goes.
3:04:55
SPEAKER_03: Woo-hoo!
3:04:59
SPEAKER_03: Where'd I lose you?
3:05:03
SPEAKER_03: Animals are our friends, but they won't pick you up at the airport.
3:05:08
SPEAKER_03: Dingleberries?
3:05:13
SPEAKER_03: Hey, there's a review tomorrow.
3:05:21
SPEAKER_03: I can beat up any single one of you.
3:05:28
SPEAKER_00: Horrible.
3:05:34
SPEAKER_00: We're going to get to the fucking song or what?
3:05:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:05:36
SPEAKER_01: Well, he's doing his whole thing.
3:05:39
SPEAKER_01: He's unfunny as fuck, too.
3:05:42
SPEAKER_00: Jesus Christ.
3:05:43
SPEAKER_00: He's not funny.
3:05:46
SPEAKER_03: What are you listening to?
3:05:52
SPEAKER_03: Mind if I plug in?
3:05:54
SPEAKER_03: My wife is very fine.
3:05:56
SPEAKER_03: Thank you very much.
3:05:57
[music]
3:07:00
SPEAKER_00: I'll bet you when you interview Alice, you're told that you can't ask about this video.
3:07:04
SPEAKER_00: This is bad, man.
3:07:07
SPEAKER_00: Holy cow.
3:07:09
SPEAKER_00: And this had big money behind it.
3:07:11
SPEAKER_00: It had to at that point, right?
3:07:12
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
3:07:14
SPEAKER_01: I mean, these videos were not cheap.
3:07:16
SPEAKER_01: They were a quarter million bucks to make.
3:07:19
SPEAKER_00: But this is also coming off of Stay Hungry, which was so huge video-wise.
3:07:25
SPEAKER_00: You know they were putting big money into this.
3:07:28
SPEAKER_00: Oof, this is fucking wretched bad.
3:07:30
SPEAKER_00: All right, here we go.
3:07:31
SPEAKER_00: Hey, I gotta know, am I slow?
3:07:32
Where do I go from here?
3:07:34
[music]
3:07:52
SPEAKER_00: How did they listen to this and think this was like as good as Stay Hungry?
3:07:58
SPEAKER_00: How did they come up with that thought?
3:08:01
SPEAKER_00: This is bad.
3:08:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean bad.
3:08:06
SPEAKER_00: And I knew it as a kid it was bad.
3:08:09
SPEAKER_00: Right.
3:08:09
SPEAKER_00: Now watching it, it is just tough to watch.
3:08:14
SPEAKER_00: It's like, man, what happened?
3:08:16
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, that's good enough.
3:08:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to keep playing the video.
3:08:21
SPEAKER_00: I think that's good enough of a sampling, though,
3:08:25
SPEAKER_00: to tell you, J.J.
3:08:27
SPEAKER_00: French does not ever need to mention Twisted Sister in the same breath as Hall
3:08:33
SPEAKER_00: of Fame.
3:08:34
SPEAKER_00: Right.
3:08:36
SPEAKER_00: And the Hall of Fame's a joke, as we have said a million times.
3:08:41
SPEAKER_00: But my God, this is...
3:08:45
SPEAKER_00: This is not a band that belongs in the Hall of Fame.
3:08:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm assuming you agree
3:08:53
SPEAKER_01: with that.
3:08:53
SPEAKER_01: Well, they were a novelty act.
3:08:55
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
3:08:56
SPEAKER_01: For the most part, they were a novelty act.
3:09:00
SPEAKER_00: And they didn't have enough juice to get into the Hall of Fame.
3:09:03
SPEAKER_01: No, and they didn't have quite the career to justify that either.
3:09:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:09:11
SPEAKER_00: If they want to be in the Long Island Music Hall of Fame or something, okay, I can see that.
3:09:17
SPEAKER_00: But putting them in the same breath as like the Rolling Stones or the Beatles?
3:09:24
SPEAKER_00: I guess maybe it doesn't matter in today's Hall of Fame
3:09:26
SPEAKER_00: since they basically put anybody from any genre in there.
3:09:30
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, what is J.J. talking about here?
3:09:35
SPEAKER_01: Well, he just wants to put an exclamation point on his career, I think.
3:09:40
SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
3:09:41
SPEAKER_00: It's a whole other thing, too.
3:09:43
SPEAKER_00: They're reporting that Twisted Sister sold 30 million records worldwide?
3:09:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't believe that.
3:09:49
SPEAKER_02: I don't believe that either.
3:09:51
SPEAKER_00: Maybe 10?
3:09:52
SPEAKER_01: Maybe 10.
3:09:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't believe they sold 30.
3:09:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Stay Hungry sold like five in the States.
3:09:59
SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
3:10:00
SPEAKER_00: Let's just look it up.
3:10:02
SPEAKER_00: How many records...
3:10:07
SPEAKER_00: Did Twisted Sisters sell globally?
3:10:13
SPEAKER_00: Let's see what it says.
3:10:16
SPEAKER_00: Top-selling album,
3:10:18
SPEAKER_00: Stay Hungry,
3:10:18
SPEAKER_00: accounts for the vast majority of their commercial success,
3:10:21
SPEAKER_00: selling between 3 and 7 million copies worldwide.
3:10:26
SPEAKER_00: The band has earned around 31 to 37 gold platinum
3:10:30
SPEAKER_00: and multi-platinum album certifications across multiple countries.
3:10:36
SPEAKER_00: The strongest record sales came from the United States and Canada,
3:10:39
SPEAKER_00: supplemented by extensive touring and international releases in 40 countries.
3:10:45
SPEAKER_00: But it doesn't say how many.
3:10:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, let me ask anything.
3:10:49
SPEAKER_00: So what is the total global sales?
3:10:54
SPEAKER_00: Come on, AI, do your fucking job.
3:10:59
SPEAKER_00: I'm burning up a tree here.
3:11:01
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
3:11:05
SPEAKER_00: Founder and guitarist JJ French has stated that the band has sold more
3:11:08
SPEAKER_00: than 20 million records globally.
3:11:10
SPEAKER_00: I don't believe that either.
3:11:15
SPEAKER_00: Let's see here.
3:11:16
SPEAKER_00: Officially logged sales is between 4.5 million to 12 million.
3:11:21
SPEAKER_00: That I believe.
3:11:22
SPEAKER_01: That's more in line.
3:11:24
SPEAKER_00: And I think it's closer to the 4.5 than the 12.
3:11:27
SPEAKER_00: Right.
3:11:28
SPEAKER_00: I don't believe that they got to 10.
3:11:31
SPEAKER_00: No way.
3:11:32
SPEAKER_00: If they sold seven...
3:11:35
SPEAKER_00: With Stay Hungry.
3:11:37
SPEAKER_00: I don't believe they sold 3 million more of all these other ones, do you?
3:11:41
SPEAKER_01: No.
3:11:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:11:42
SPEAKER_00: All right, well.
3:11:49
SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
3:11:50
SPEAKER_00: Hall of Fame, put them in.
3:11:52
SPEAKER_01: All right, I agree.
3:11:54
SPEAKER_00: All right, and I'm out of gas.
3:11:58
SPEAKER_00: Let's fucking wrap this shit up.
3:12:00
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3:12:02
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