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#226: Hostel: Part III (2011) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  Welcome to What's Your Least Favorite Scary Movie?
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  The podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly and
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  the absurd and all of our favorite.
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  And least favorite? Scary movies.
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  Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has this fan
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  base. Even if we don't always get it.
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  My name is Travis. My name is Jesse and we're back
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  and we're finally talking about the best Hostel in the
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  franchise. As you can tell, Travis is very
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  thrilled and I am very thrilled. So we're in for a good time.
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  But first, I have no announcements, but I do believe
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  Travis has some poll results for us.
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  I sure do. So we talked about which movie
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  was it? Pieces.
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  Yes. The Chainsaw movie.
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  Yeah, yeah. Chainsaw Bastard Man.
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  Chainsaw Bastard Man. We talked about that last week.
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  So we asked everybody the following for our poll.
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  Which movie is the Chainsaw movie?
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  So on Twitter, 8% voted for pieces, 92% voted for Texas
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  Chainsaw Massacre, and on Instagram, 29% pieces.
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  Wow. 71% Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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  Instagram a little bit more with it than I.
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  Expected. You know, I'm actually happy
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  that Pieces does get some votes because that proves that some
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  people do call it the chainsaw movie.
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  Yeah, yeah. And for me, it's always going to
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  be Texas Chainsaw because that is the chainsaw movie.
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  It's the original. It beat it by like a not quite a
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  decade, but almost. Yes, it is the chainsaw movie.
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  However, the chainsaw movie as per video violence is pieces.
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  So it depends on how deep in the lore we're going.
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  But because of that movie, video violence is also the chainsaw
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  movie for me now because I have been referring to it as that.
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  So yeah. Oh, is that exactly OK?
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  I just reworded it. Yeah.
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  For the people who have brains like me, That's how you think
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  about that. That was like such a typical
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  joke, like from a sitcom about a man taking a woman's idea.
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  It's. Like a It's always sunny right
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  there. What they do to?
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  D Yes. Man, all right, Smart.
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  You guys so good at this shit. OK, so now we're going to go
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  ahead and we're going to talk about hostile part three.
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  Would you like to? Rewind.
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  No man, Go, go. You're doing a fantastic job.
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  You're speaking in just like a man would.
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  You're doing. Great.
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  Good job. OK, I kid so.
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  I just don't want people to actually think I am like that,
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  no. Shut up.
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  OK, let's. Go What about Hostile Part 3?
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  OK, Hostile Part Three was released direct to DVD and
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  streaming on December 27th, 2011.
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  We watched it on Prime because as of today it's currently not
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  streaming anywhere, very sadly. And we we tried fighting with
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  our DVD. Yeah, we have the DVD, we have
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  this on DVD and the Xbox just said no.
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  It's not the Xbox's fault though, the disc looks like it
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  should be flawless, but the closer I looked at it I could
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  see some like some probably critical scratches on it that is
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  causing it to not be readable anymore.
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  I just also feel like your Xbox is in it's like conservative Fox
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  News era where it's not willing. To take.
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  Don't put it in that life. Willing to take anything that
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  doesn't fit its world view. So if you like looked at a DVD
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  wrong before you put it in the Xbox.
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  Xbox is like, I don't think so, how dare you?
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  What if the Xbox is trying to protect me?
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  Like you don't like this movie, man, don't put it in there.
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  Oh, Xbox, Maybe your own. You can also rent it.
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  If you don't want to rent it from Prime, you can rent it from
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  Google Play, YouTube, or Fandango at Home.
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  Written by Michael D Weiss. Based on characters by Eli Roth,
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  directed by Scott Spiegel, music by Frederick Weidman, and
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  special effects makeup by Russell Tyrell and Shane
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  Lambert. Starring Kip Pardew is Carter,
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  Brian Hallesay is Scott. John Hensley is Justin, Skylar
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  Stone is Mike, Sarah Hybel as Kendra, Zellay Hanno as Nikki,
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  Chris Coy as Travis, Thomas Kretchman is Fleming, Nicholas
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  Shreli is Victor, and Kelly Thybaud as Amy.
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  Man, that's some names right there.
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  Yes, Interesting. OK, yes.
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  I couldn't, I couldn't narrow down the list any, so I was
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  like, I feel like they all have relevance to the.
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  Plot. Yeah, they do.
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  It's not a big cast. Yeah.
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  There's enough there to be a decent chunk.
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  But you know what's good for a decent chunk?
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  What our favorite game budget or bucketed?
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  Do you have one for this? I do.
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  Wow, really? Oh shit.
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  Well, bugged up, yes. Yeah, definitely bugged up
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  straight to DVD. Yes.
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  And because of that, I only have the bugged head.
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  I don't have the box office information, but I can tell you
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  they were working on a $6 million budget.
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  That's a lot more than I expected.
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  Yeah, it has an IMDb score of 4.6 out of 10.
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  That's a lot higher than I expected.
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  Honestly, me too, because I know I'm in the minority for loving
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  this one. Yeah, OK.
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  I picked 3 movies from 2011. What's the theme?
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  The theme is trips that went really badly.
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  Good job. That's really fitting.
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  OK. The first one is the task.
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  We watched that. Didn't we?
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  Yes, We have talked about this on the podcast briefly.
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  It was part of our Texas Battle Triple feature.
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  Yeah, Yeah. Where we also watched Wrong Turn
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  2 and Final Destination 3. All other bad trips, yes.
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  Bad trip to the amusement park? Bad trip to West Virginia.
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  You said that ominously. It's a very ominous place.
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  April saying Dave Matthews and OK, so the task it's a reality
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  TV show movie and they have to be in a haunted jail.
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  So like wrong turn 2. Like wrong turn 2 so, but they
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  weren't expecting it to actually be as bad as it was.
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  That released July 14th, 2011. I don't have a budget but it did
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  make one point, $6000 worldwide. Whoa, good job guys.
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  That's it's the. One of the 8 horror films to die
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  for. How they do those every?
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  Year, yeah, it's the channel. IFC, I think, yes, Yeah, it's
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  IFC they did that. Yes, it's got a 4.3 out of 10 on
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  IMDb, which is about par for that's accurate these types of
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  movies. Yeah, that's accurate.
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  OK, second movie. We know this.
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  We love this. We will eventually cover it on
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  the show Vile. Oh, vile.
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  Yeah. It is a messy movie.
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  It makes no goddamn sense, but we love it.
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  You know what? We went and saw Trap today too.
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  We also love it. Just don't think about it.
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  Have fun. Yeah.
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  Trap for those who we we heard some shit about it and we both
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  went in with like a positive mind frame and we both had a
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  great time with that movie so. Because the premise falls apart
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  the second you watch the trailer, so just don't go into.
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  If you if you are into the idea of what goes on in the trailer
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  and you subscribe and buy into that, I think you'll have a
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  great time. It's fun, yeah.
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  Just just have fun. So is file.
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  And file is also very fitting to talk about when we're talking
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  about, I saw these movies referred to as splatter horror,
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  which I feel like is a much nicer way than saying torture
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  porn. Yeah.
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  Splatter horror does sound more. It's less.
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  What am I trying to think of? It puts less of a tone to it,
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  like a morality clause. Better Why kind?
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  Of yes. Yeah, torture porn just kind of
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  sounds like you're getting your rocks off on the whole.
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  Thing yeah and that's not really what it is no so OK so vile
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  released August 26th 2011 at the film for Fright Fest.
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  I don't have a budget where a worldwide gross, but I have a
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  very rude IMDb score 4.9. 4.9 That one is like it's a low
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  budget, but I think that they did a really good job and they
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  have a really interesting concept, like a good spin on
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  that. And they have Beast Boy.
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  They have Beast Boy. You're right.
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  Oh fuck man. And it is distracting as hell
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  watching them be like I hear Beast Boy.
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  It's just kind of insane that that's his actual voice.
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  I know you were like wait, but this is actually just how he
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  talks. But what if it wasn't?
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  What if that's just like his acting voice?
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  It's like when you found out that Stevo just nobody told him
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  not to talk that way, so that's how he talks.
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  Yeah, that there's some insane shit right there.
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  OK, third movie. OK?
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  Also know that we love this and we'll talk about this someday,
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  OK? Final Destination 5.
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  Fuck yeah. Yeah, hell yeah.
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  I love that movie. So and that was there on a
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  corporate retreat type thing on a bus and it goes bad.
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  On a bridge bus on a bridge. We don't like bridges, so we
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  love Jeff Bridges. Though I was just thinking of
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  Jeff was just like, hold on a second.
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  We don't like bridges, but that's not inclusive.
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  Yeah, OK, so I released August 12th, 2011 on a budget of 40
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  million and a worldwide gross of 157 point something million.
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  That sounds right. IMDb score.
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  And I'm just gonna say it and I say it a lot, but I'm gonna say
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  it for this. It's.
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  Rude. 5.9 out of 10. Yeah, that one is really good.
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  I don't think it deserves. I think it deserves it to be in
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  the sixes at least. Yes, and the twist at the end
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  got me. It's a really good.
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  One good yeah I remember leaving the theater cuz we were with our
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  friend Taylor and we were all just like didn't see that
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  coming. I'm glad that I didn't know
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  about that. Yeah, until I watched it on DVD
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  and then I was born away also. OK, OK.
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  I have one tag line. Only one tag line.
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  Only. One what is it?
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  Do you feel lucky? I like that, yeah.
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  That's pretty good it actually. Really works.
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  Yeah. So that's not too bad.
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  There's a lot of gambling things that you could do, Vegas theme
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  stuff here. Yeah, so it works.
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  OK, I've got some fun facts. One is that Spiegel was the
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  producer on Hostile part one and two.
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  Oh, really? Yeah, so.
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  He's associated with the interesting he was.
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  Brought in to do this, and Eli Roth was actually going to be
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  producer on this and his name kind of kept dropping in and out
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  of discussion so. I wonder why he distanced
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  himself. I don't know, I didn't get so I
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  couldn't find a ton of like non like what am I trying to think?
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  I'm not non biased but like most of my information came from
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  interviews this time so it wasn't just like it wasn't like
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  a third person view on it. I got you.
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  Yeah, not objective. Yeah, yes, Thank you.
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  So most of, well, everything else that I'm about to say for
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  the rest of this came from an interview that Scott Spiegel did
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  with hornnews.net. OK, cool.
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  So, and I thought that he would be a good source for this.
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  And it was honestly kind of disappointing, not to preface it
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  too badly with the information I got.
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  Yeah, let's do it. So Peter Nelson and Chris
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  Briggs, who are producers and Sony, wanted it to be set in
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  Vegas. Yeah.
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  So it's kind of why it got set in Vegas.
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  It's because of the fucking movie.
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  I keep getting it. Hold on.
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  OK. Yeah, Yeah.
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  Hold on. We will talk about that.
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  I'm not trying to steal your Thunder here.
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  Would you you wanted to take away from our No, no, no.
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  You got this. You got this.
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  Go ahead. So Scott said that there's like,
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  you know, there's a certain mythos with Vegas.
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  You know, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
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  And it works really well with the with this kind with the
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  Hostel series. But you know, there is also the
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  hangover was massively popular. And he ended this quite like his
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  answer to this question by just saying in the end, it was
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  somebody had a cool idea for it being in Vegas.
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  So we ran with it. You know what?
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  That's good enough for me. Yeah.
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  Honestly, yeah, it is a cool setting for the place.
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  I like that. If you're gonna take it to
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  America, that is a very fitting place.
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  Yeah, and everything doesn't have to be super fucking deep.
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  I kind of like it when directors are like, I don't know, that
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  would be cool. That was cool.
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  Yeah, we did it cuz we wanted to.
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  Same thing with driver. I just thought it'd.
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  Be fun. I just thought it'd be fun.
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  So the script originally was more of a police procedural and
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  it kept getting edited. Scott Spiegel didn't come on as
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  director until about a year into it being written and they were
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  doing they were already several edits in and he pitched a lot of
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  ideas and lines that ended up being used.
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  I'm judging him for this. He came up with the line.
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  When it comes to pussy, I have no friends.
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  He came up with that, He came up.
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  He's proud of that enough to mention.
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  It one of the executives was like, Oh, well, that summarizes
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  the character and the movie really well.
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  What I don't think it does I. Don't think it does, yeah.
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  The only guy is just that character.
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  It's just him. Yeah.
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  So it just. Yeah.
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  And the the ending was going to be even more of kind of like a
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  gladiatorial blowout. And Spiegel kept having to say,
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  hey, we don't have money for this.
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  Yeah, like, we can't do all of this.
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  And I had to cut it down quite a bit.
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  Just imagining it in an actual Roman Colosseum.
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  Like they like send the tiger out or the lion out and they
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  have to like battle the lion. Yeah.
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  And so he was often describing the movie as hostile meets The
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  Hangover. And when the interviewer was
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  like, so were the similarities between, you know, the
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  storylines, Were those intentional?
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  He was like, I'm going to be really honest, I had haven't
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  seen it for a long time. There's no tiger in this so.
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  That's true. There could have been if you did
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  the Colosseum. Exactly.
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  That would have been more of a lion though.
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  Yeah, but they could have been like, but tigers.
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  But this is a tiger. Yeah.
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  So a lot of the movie was actually shot in the Detroit
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  Masonic Temple, which is where Scott Spiegel and Bruce Campbell
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  graduated. So.
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  Yeah, So very familiar with the setting.
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  He said this era especially, it was very depressing to be around
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  there. He said Detroit is not for the
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  light hearted. But he said it was funny because
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  at the time, Sean Penn, Sigourney Weaver and Alicia
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  Silverstone were all shooting movies there as well, and they
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  kept getting each other's sets mixed up.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  Wow, that was so strange. Yeah.
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  Can you imagine just accidentally stumbling on the
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  hostel set? Like what the fuck is going on
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  here? Yeah, especially sweet little
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  Alicia Silverstone. Yeah, oh man, they're like
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  awkward smile. It turns into an awkward frown.
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  It's like that face when she accidentally had something with
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  her car. Yeah, like the little lip I.
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  Yeah. So that's, I mean, honestly,
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  that's really all I have for for.
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  Fun facts. Fun facts, yeah.
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  So that's, that's where we're at with it.
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  I feel like this tends to be a lot of the direct to DVD curses.
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  There's not a ton of information out there unless it's something
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  that becomes a cult classic, which I'm still holding out hope
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  for this one, but. Yeah, well, I mean, this was the
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  end of the series for a while, but now they're going to do the
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  TV show, so. And he said that they definitely
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  have room to make a sequel somewhere down the line, you
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  know, if it is a thing that people want.
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  So it's not out of the realm of possibility.
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  However, it has been 13 years. Yeah, well.
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  I mean, that's the thing with the series.
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  You can put it anywhere in the world.
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  You can pick it up with any character you want to.
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  It doesn't have to follow a set of people.
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  And that's what he said. He was like, really honestly, if
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  you get the right kind of story going on, it works wherever you
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  want to put it. So you can really place this
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  kind of story anywhere you want. Now that I'm talking about it
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  like I'm thinking there could be one that's like a set back in
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  time. Like they they had the fucking
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  hound tattoos when they were like doing like, you know, Roman
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  gladiator type shit. Oh my God, honey, you're gonna
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  say gladiator. Yeah, I mean, we can give
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  Russell Crowe. He can be a gladiator again, and
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  he can be one of the hound dudes.
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  My God, I would love to see Russell Crowe.
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  And all I know he seems like he would be fitting right?
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  I've never. Thought about this before, but
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  now that you've put that into the world, I want nothing more.
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  Dream sequel already he it's a sequel to that and what's
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  unhinged? Unhinged.
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  Where he gets so pissed off with somebody that cuts him off in
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  traffic that he's like, I'm buying that person to torture.
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  He somehow survived the end of unhinged and like a bunch of
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  like, like Uber right wing people agree with him that like,
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  yeah, when somebody cuts you off in traffic, you should murder
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  them. And so he becomes like a kind of
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  like, all right, celebrity in that way.
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  And then he gets money from that.
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  And that's how he joins the Elite Hunting.
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  Yeah, yeah. Oh man.
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  We already wrote it, folks. Yes.
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  OK. All right, some time for yeah.
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  Time for good, bad, ugly time. For good, bad, ugly, and I'm
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  sorry Travis, please tell me the things you like about this movie
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  because I know you don't straight up hate it.
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  So I know you don't love it, but I know you don't hate it.
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  For this episode so far, I've been playing it up that I hated
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  this movie. However, on rewatch this past
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  week, I had a pretty good time with this movie.
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  I think I needed to give it another chance.
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  So here's the good things I have to say.
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  I think that they did a good job playing with the tropes from the
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  past movies. So they have these characters
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  that you automatically suspect are going to be evil or they're
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  going to be shady or whatever just because they are like the
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  past. New movies kind of make you
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  xenophobia. Yeah, we were referring to this
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  as the casual xenophobia in this movie.
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  And it's true because like, we are introduced to these two
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  Ukrainian people and like, well, they're obviously bad people and
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  they have accent and like, that doesn't make me feel good.
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  About myself, Anka, I totally would have had a threesome with
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  Travis. They were trying to.
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  Yeah, like they would have been down down to do it also, I feel.
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  Like this is the first Travis we've talked about on the show.
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  That's true because we we do run into that name in horror movies
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  and comedies and like other movies a lot.
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  And a lot of times Travis's aren't like the nice guys in the
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  movie. This still holds up, but it is
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  funny to like, look over and be like Travis.
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  Yeah. And now we get to actually talk
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  about that. It's a little bit strange.
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  So I I like that they made him the bad guy in that situation
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  because you don't expect it. And then they did the same thing
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  with Nikki and Kendra in the movie too, because you think
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  that they're the women that seduced the people and wore them
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  into the trap, but turns out they are also a part of it.
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  Yeah, they really subvert the tropes.
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  Yeah, they did a really good job doing that and it really made it
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  fresh compared to the other two, Yes, I think so.
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  While still doing hostile things, they just toyed with the
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  formula and not to just keep it pretty good.
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  Yes. I like the garage torture room
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  at the end. Yes.
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  I like the idea of like having multiple types of that.
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  So like, that's the poor man's hostel room right there.
• 19:21
  Like where's my fucking power tools at?
• 19:23
  This is not the elite hunting club.
• 19:25
  This is what would they call it, to pretend that it's elite but
• 19:28
  it's not. Instead of the hound tattoo, you
• 19:31
  get the acid cat tattoo from Inkmaster.
• 19:33
  It is acid cat. This is the acid cat club They
• 19:36
  just whatever you got, that's what you torture them with right
• 19:39
  there. I like that a lot because it
• 19:42
  made me think oh, like you don't even have to have this be like
• 19:45
  high dollar people. You could just have people that
• 19:48
  are just really into it and like are aware of that, like they've
• 19:51
  been made aware of that organization.
• 19:53
  Like let's start our own group here in 10 They.
• 19:55
  Would probably call it something like the Premier Hunting Club or
• 19:58
  something that. That's the.
• 19:59
  Illusion of fanciness without being fancy.
• 20:02
  But it was cool because I just thought, you know, like they
• 20:06
  could just, they could really take this and scale it down a
• 20:08
  lot and they could keep the essence of the movie.
• 20:11
  And I know it's just like a throwaway moment at the end of
• 20:13
  the movie, but I really appreciated that.
• 20:15
  Yeah. I thought also the people like
• 20:18
  did a really good job in this movie too.
• 20:20
  Like this movie, The camera works surprisingly good, the
• 20:24
  acting surprisingly good. I think there's only a little
• 20:29
  bit bad that holds it back. That kind of gives it that cheap
• 20:31
  feeling, and I'll talk about that.
• 20:32
  Not bad. OK, so that's my good stuff
• 20:34
  there. OK, my good is that I like that
• 20:37
  this it takes place in a context that isn't just like, OK, let me
• 20:50
  start over. I'm not saying what I want to
• 20:52
  say the right way. So in addition to subverting the
• 20:55
  tropes, I do like how we've moved it to this new setting.
• 20:58
  Right. And I like that we adjusted what
• 21:02
  the Elite Hunting Club does with it.
• 21:05
  Yeah, because it makes sense. We've put it in Vegas, so we're
• 21:08
  going to turn this into a show. So it's not just rich people
• 21:11
  paying to torture, it's rich people paying to see it, and
• 21:15
  they're paying to participate and bet on it.
• 21:19
  So it takes that idea that we had in the second one of like
• 21:22
  bidding on people, and then you get to do whatever you're gonna
• 21:25
  do with it. And then it also makes it a
• 21:27
  little bit more theatrical and a little bit more of a group
• 21:32
  activity in a way that makes sense for Vegas.
• 21:36
  Yeah, they really Vegas stood up with.
• 21:38
  It yeah. And if you're going to move the
• 21:41
  setting for this, it makes sense that you would do it that way.
• 21:43
  It's just like you can have any kind of an international chain,
• 21:46
  but it's always gonna be, you know, scaled to match the local
• 21:50
  area. Think about like McDonald's
• 21:51
  around the world. They don't have the same menu.
• 21:54
  Yeah, you're right. You know, that's a great point
• 21:57
  because I'm thinking we've only seen it from the same place in
• 22:00
  the past few movies. Like every other country that
• 22:04
  the organization's in probably handles it a little bit
• 22:06
  different based off of their own culture.
• 22:08
  Yes, which is really interesting to think about.
• 22:10
  And I think it's also really interesting to have it set in
• 22:14
  America and make it very overt that the Americans are, you
• 22:19
  know, like the bad guys in this. Because I think sometimes they
• 22:23
  like themes of, you know, Americans not adapting to other
• 22:27
  cultures and disrespecting local customs and things like that
• 22:30
  that are supposed to be there in the first two movies kind of get
• 22:35
  overshadowed by the titties and blood.
• 22:37
  Yeah. So I think like this one, like,
• 22:40
  is like, hey, yeah, no, we've been saying from the beginning
• 22:43
  that, like, the Americans aren't necessarily the innocent, but, I
• 22:45
  mean, not that they're, you know, torturing, even though
• 22:47
  there were American torturers and the 1st 2:00.
• 22:50
  But I do think that it's kind of interesting the way that they're
• 22:54
  like a little bit more overt with that.
• 22:56
  It's kind of funny that like, yeah, Americans suck as Taurus,
• 22:59
  but hey, here's a fun fact, they suck in America still too.
• 23:03
  Even when they come back there, there's still shitty people.
• 23:05
  Yeah. So Americans are just the
• 23:06
  problem, Yeah. Not all Americans, but those are
• 23:10
  the bad Americans there. Yeah, I just, I thought, I
• 23:12
  thought it was kind of interesting when you think about
• 23:14
  what some of the thematic elements are meant to be in the
• 23:18
  first two movies and how a lot of times it kind of gets
• 23:21
  overlooked. And because the torturer, you
• 23:24
  know, group is the these Slavic people that it kind of makes the
• 23:31
  messaging a little bit muddy there.
• 23:34
  And then, like you said, especially when we walk in and
• 23:38
  Victor and Anka are immediately set up to be like, oh, they're
• 23:41
  going to be the bad guys, but they're not like straight away.
• 23:45
  That's what happens. And then I also think it's
• 23:46
  really interesting, again, what you said with this, with the
• 23:52
  Kendra and Nikki, their characters.
• 23:54
  I think it's really interesting that when Nikki goes missing,
• 23:57
  Kendra's like, well, no, they don't worry about people like us
• 24:00
  here on the Strip. They don't worry about us for at
• 24:03
  least a week. Like it's a lost cause.
• 24:05
  And I think that's a really interesting kind of throwaway
• 24:08
  line about how even, you know, people that work there on the
• 24:12
  Vegas Strip, they're the heart of what makes that city roll
• 24:17
  because they're not the economic stronghold.
• 24:21
  You know, they're just basically the servants of that area.
• 24:24
  They're not the actual wealthy elite that are really driving
• 24:28
  the economy. They're just the worker bees.
• 24:30
  They don't. In the end, they don't matter.
• 24:32
  And I think that ties into the themes of this movie and the
• 24:35
  franchise really well also. That's true.
• 24:37
  It does. So yeah, they did a really good
• 24:39
  job with these characters. Yeah, And I, I didn't mean to
• 24:41
  get this deep into the reading of it, but it's also part of the
• 24:44
  reason why I like this movie. And, you know, I think part of
• 24:47
  it too, is because we have seen so many movies that take place
• 24:51
  in Vegas. And it's a context for me as an
• 24:53
  American who, you know, doesn't have a lot of experience outside
• 24:58
  of America itself. This puts the movie into a
• 25:01
  context telling a certain type of story that is very easy for
• 25:05
  me to grasp on. Yeah, from my own lens.
• 25:08
  So that's, I think that's part of it for me too.
• 25:12
  OK, I can see that. OK, so on to bad.
• 25:16
  So one of the bad things that I thought with this was one of the
• 25:22
  things that cheapens it. I think it's the soundtrack.
• 25:25
  It feels very much royalty free music, just the jammed in there.
• 25:30
  It feels like the music that they tried on Below Deck season
• 25:34
  11 where they like had their in house artists like write music
• 25:38
  and it's like what the fuck? Why are we like listening to
• 25:42
  this right here as we brew coffee?
• 25:44
  It's weird. Yeah, it just, I don't know,
• 25:47
  like it didn't really work for this type of movie.
• 25:51
  It didn't make any of the scary scenes scary.
• 25:54
  It didn't make any of the, like, the normal plot scenes seem
• 25:58
  interesting in any way. They just didn't really invoke
• 26:00
  any emotion in me. It was just like, oh, OK, this
• 26:02
  is what you're playing for me here.
• 26:04
  The only time it really worked for me was when we had this
• 26:06
  montage of them when they're arriving to Vegas and they're in
• 26:09
  the limo and then the music would cut and we'd cut to Victor
• 26:12
  in the holding cell, like arguing with the captors like,
• 26:15
  So those cuts back and forth worked for.
• 26:18
  Me. That's an editing thing.
• 26:19
  Yeah, that it's. Yeah, that's more less to do
• 26:22
  with the music and more to do with, like, showing the very
• 26:24
  stark contrast, yeah, between what's happening.
• 26:27
  That I do appreciate. Yeah.
• 26:29
  And the only other bad thing I could say about this one is it
• 26:32
  lacks any of the scariness in the torture scenes, any of the
• 26:37
  tension, I think. And I think the thing that
• 26:41
  doesn't work for me with this is it is a little bit more tidy in
• 26:46
  there this time around. It's queen.
• 26:48
  I liked the dank like abandoned area setting of the first two
• 26:54
  and makes it feel that much more uncomfortable when you're in
• 26:57
  there and you're isolated with this.
• 26:59
  Like fucking weirdo with leather shit on and all kinds of torture
• 27:03
  tools. However, I think for me it works
• 27:08
  because it is Vegas and it's meant to be a show and an
• 27:10
  experience. And I think when you think about
• 27:12
  it, like from Mike's perspective, when he realizes
• 27:15
  there's a whole audience there and nobody is helping him, yeah,
• 27:17
  I think like, moments like that really works for me because it's
• 27:21
  a whole different spin on how the Elite Hunting Club works.
• 27:25
  It's entertaining, I'll give them that, but I don't think it
• 27:29
  makes it any more terrifying. I think it actually takes away
• 27:34
  from the scariness of the whole ordeal for me.
• 27:37
  I do think that if maybe they had played it up a little bit
• 27:40
  more, made it a little bit more theatrical, a little bit cleaner
• 27:44
  even, I think that that would make it eerie for me.
• 27:48
  Maybe just like shoot it inside there a little bit differently
• 27:51
  too. There's just something the whole
• 27:54
  way that the whole thing was played out.
• 27:56
  And then you get that one woman who looks like she's like from
• 27:59
  the future when it comes in, she like has like goggles and shit
• 28:03
  on. She kind of looks like she's
• 28:04
  like she's trying out to be a predator.
• 28:07
  Yeah, no, that's exactly what I was thinking of.
• 28:10
  Yeah, it see when like that right there it was just like,
• 28:13
  oh, OK, yeah, you're going for a show.
• 28:15
  I get it, but I like it. We got one guy that dressed in
• 28:20
  the classic outfit. The classic outfit, you agree,
• 28:22
  is terrifying. Yes, absolutely.
• 28:24
  When you look at that, you see that that black cap, that apron,
• 28:28
  the orange shirt on. Yeah, there's just something
• 28:30
  about it that's unsettling. But when you see somebody walk
• 28:32
  in with a, you know, medical coat and a face mask, and then
• 28:36
  you get the person dressed as like a cybernetic Predator
• 28:40
  cosplay, it's just, it doesn't work as well for me.
• 28:43
  I think it also gives me a little bit of a hint of purge
• 28:47
  with it too. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
• 28:49
  I can see that. What is it?
• 28:50
  Is it the third one that I'm the second one where the church?
• 28:54
  It's not the church, no, it's rich people and they're like
• 28:56
  bidding on. Doing that's the 2nd.
• 28:58
  Yes, yes. The first Frank Grillo movie,
• 29:00
  Yeah, we haven't quite named Bloody Stranger yet, but now we
• 29:05
  just call him Stranger. We went on a whole journey
• 29:08
  watching through the some of the other Purge movies after we
• 29:11
  covered the. The first one, but not the first
• 29:14
  purge. The original purge.
• 29:16
  Yes, the original purge. Yeah, the original Purge movie.
• 29:19
  Yes. Not that it's God.
• 29:20
  It's so fucking why did they have to do this?
• 29:23
  They they took advice from Nintendo and they were like,
• 29:27
  they're like, hey, how do we name this movie you guys are
• 29:29
  great in? We actually lost a lot of money
• 29:32
  by naming our consoles. Yeah.
• 29:35
  So yeah, but I OK. Are you done?
• 29:37
  Yeah, yeah. OK.
• 29:39
  So I was kind of chiming in on some of the pieces that I agreed
• 29:43
  with, but there is one other one that I would say would up the
• 29:49
  moment of the gore for me, and that's Mike.
• 29:52
  You know, his whole thing is getting his face cut off.
• 29:54
  Yeah. And I thought they did a pretty
• 29:56
  good job with the effects on that because you see, like, the
• 29:59
  muscles and stuff in his face. I think it would have been nice
• 30:02
  if they had just added a little layer of extra fake skin on the
• 30:06
  parts they didn't cut off because it was distracting that,
• 30:09
  like, the muscle was laying flat with the flesh.
• 30:12
  And you should see a little bit of a line there.
• 30:14
  And that's just one of those things that I'm like, I get it.
• 30:17
  They probably didn't think it was going to stand out to
• 30:19
  anybody, but it stuck out to me because I was like, it shouldn't
• 30:22
  lie flat like that. Like you should see at least a
• 30:24
  little bit. Plus, I feel like when they cut
• 30:27
  the face off and he's holding the face and showing it off to
• 30:31
  all of the people watching. Too clean.
• 30:32
  Yeah, exactly. It's too clean.
• 30:34
  That guy has very he's not old, but he's got distinguished
• 30:38
  wrinkles and I think freckles too.
• 30:41
  He's the guy that are always, for those listening, get
• 30:44
  confused with the kid from Sandlot.
• 30:46
  Yes, Yeah. And then he does look like a he.
• 30:50
  Does yes, I do see where you come to confusion with that.
• 30:53
  Yeah, so I'm again picturing that kids face being held up.
• 30:58
  Yeah, that's not probably good, but that's what I expect.
• 31:02
  But yeah, it was very clean. Yeah, it felt very much like
• 31:05
  they they did like some silicone or latex or something on a, on a
• 31:09
  mold and painted it with some makeup and then they held it up
• 31:13
  and they could have bloodied it up some they could have added.
• 31:16
  A little extra. Yes, they could have done a
• 31:18
  little bit more with it. I think about like, what is it,
• 31:22
  The Devil's rejects? Where he puts Lou Reed's face.
• 31:26
  Puts Lou Reed's face on No. Lou Reed.
• 31:28
  Lou Reed's fucking who? What is his name?
• 31:32
  Louie I. Went right along.
• 31:35
  With you, Lou Temple. Lou Temple.
• 31:37
  Temple I was like, yeah, Lou Reed, it is a perfect.
• 31:41
  Game exactly Lou Reed's in the movie.
• 31:45
  Lou Temple, yeah, they put Lou Temple's face on his character,
• 31:48
  his wife. And yeah, she, yeah, that was a
• 31:52
  really well done face. That moment, I saw that moment
• 31:56
  when I was a kid and I snuck watch that part, it was on TV
• 32:00
  and it traumatized. Me.
• 32:01
  Oh, it was one of those scenes that you showed me when we first
• 32:03
  started dating. You're like, have you ever seen
• 32:05
  this? This fucking this is.
• 32:07
  Most of our early relationship was Travis being like have you
• 32:11
  seen this? And we're sitting in his dark
• 32:12
  dorm room and he pulls up a YouTube clip of some like fucked
• 32:16
  up shit and look at us. Hey. 12 1/2 years later.
• 32:20
  Just look at the Travis in this movie and just think twice about
• 32:23
  this relationship that you're in right here.
• 32:26
  I'm. I'm just playing the Wong Con
• 32:27
  baby. Yeah, OK, Ugly time.
• 32:31
  Yes. I just wrote one word and it's
• 32:35
  Mikey. Yeah, Mikey is such an asshole
• 32:39
  in this movie and he's like misogynistic and he's.
• 32:42
  He's the asshole that unironically says there's three
• 32:46
  rings in marriage. The engagement ring, wedding
• 32:50
  ring and southern ring. Oh yeah, yeah, he has that
• 32:56
  attitude the entire time. And he's on his wife.
• 32:59
  So disrespectful. Such a nasty person.
• 33:03
  He he probably didn't deserve what he got, but you don't feel
• 33:07
  so bad when he's the first victim.
• 33:09
  Oh, well, it's like, I feel like they grabbed, what's the guy's
• 33:15
  name that they would grab at the beginning?
• 33:17
  Victor? They grabbed Victor.
• 33:19
  Like, all right, Victor, we're going to get you.
• 33:21
  But then they keep grabbing worse people.
• 33:23
  Like, hold on, this guy sucks. Let me get him first.
• 33:25
  And then they just keep bringing these more annoying people.
• 33:28
  All right, hold on, Victor. I feel like this ties into the
• 33:32
  like xenophobia that is so central to the Hostel movies
• 33:37
  because if it's people that are betting on them, think about in
• 33:40
  like the European ones, the American sell for a higher
• 33:43
  amount. I wonder if it's the same here.
• 33:45
  And Anka, it was kind of implied that maybe she had too much of
• 33:49
  the sedative. And she died.
• 33:51
  Yeah. We never do see her again, do
• 33:53
  we? Yeah.
• 33:53
  It's like some throwaway line that he had about, you know, if
• 33:59
  there's damage, it's OK We'll be able to make it up or something.
• 34:01
  Like he. Right.
• 34:03
  Yeah. So there's a part of me that
• 34:06
  wonders if it's because he's the only Ukrainian and they keep
• 34:09
  swooping up with these Americans, if it's, you know, if
• 34:14
  there's an element of that involved.
• 34:16
  Could be, yeah. You ever know?
• 34:19
  OK, what's your ugly? My ugly is just Carter, you
• 34:24
  Dick. Carter, you Dick.
• 34:25
  Carter. Fucking sucks.
• 34:27
  Too. Yeah.
• 34:27
  He like, oh, surprise trip to Vegas.
• 34:30
  Like, I don't feel like that's what Scott really wanted to do.
• 34:34
  He seemed ready to golf in Palm Springs.
• 34:38
  Yeah. He wanted to not have strippers
• 34:40
  and all that shit going on on his bachelor party and Carter's
• 34:44
  like, fuck that. We're going to do the
• 34:46
  stereotypical bachelor. Yeah, and especially like when
• 34:49
  it's so such a fresh wound where he had cheated on Amy and she
• 34:55
  like. He's encouraging him to cheat.
• 34:57
  Yeah, I pay these people to have sex with you.
• 34:59
  Yeah, it just just the whole thing is very icky.
• 35:04
  And that's not what a bachelor or a Bachelorette party should
• 35:06
  be about. And if you have to see it as
• 35:08
  like, I don't know, we have a lot of fun together.
• 35:11
  I didn't feel like my Bachelorette party was the last
• 35:14
  time I had fun before. We got married.
• 35:16
  I hate the whole idea my. Last time fun was my maiden
• 35:19
  name. Yeah, but you know, we've had
• 35:23
  plenty of fun together outside of that, you know?
• 35:26
  Probably more fun. Yeah.
• 35:28
  I hate that mentality. Like, oh, man, you're last night
• 35:31
  of freedom. Like, really.
• 35:32
  Like I've been in a committed relationship, but long enough to
• 35:34
  be engaged. Like, I don't think that it's
• 35:37
  been free. Like I've been able to do
• 35:39
  whatever the fuck I want this entire time with other.
• 35:41
  People, it's like, really, all that changes with marriage is
• 35:44
  that it's more expensive to break up, Yeah.
• 35:46
  That's yeah, it makes you know the.
• 35:48
  Commitment piece didn't change that much.
• 35:50
  Yeah, it makes it a little is a little bit harsher of a
• 35:53
  commitment. Yeah, All right.
• 35:54
  Right. Now, like, our credit scores
• 35:56
  would take a hit and we'd have to deal with selling the house.
• 35:58
  But like, you know, I just as much would be pissed if you
• 36:02
  cheated on me now as if you had done it when we were seniors in
• 36:04
  college, you know? Exactly.
• 36:06
  Like, so that's just that's, that's an ugly thing.
• 36:10
  And Cartier represents the ugliness of that.
• 36:12
  Absolutely. OK, Absurd.
• 36:15
  Yes, absurd. I just wrote one down.
• 36:18
  Oh, can I add to the ugly like so Justin walks with a cane and
• 36:28
  his friends like act like that's the only thing about him and
• 36:32
  that's. His personality.
• 36:33
  Justin makes jokes about it too, but you can also see that it
• 36:37
  seems to really bum him the fuck out because we do see like a
• 36:40
  woman that starts to flirt with him until she sees the cane and
• 36:45
  then she was like Oh no, I gotta go.
• 36:47
  I loved. His responses I hate it stays
• 36:49
  hard all night. Yeah.
• 36:50
  And I think maybe he does the joking as a coping mechanism.
• 36:56
  And I'm sure there is an element of like, yeah, I'm just going to
• 37:00
  joke about this because this is my life.
• 37:01
  Because granted, I do that with a lot of things too.
• 37:04
  Yeah, don't like, I don't mind it talk.
• 37:08
  It's more just the way they use that with everything they talk
• 37:11
  about with him. That is kind of like ugly to me.
• 37:14
  I do like the way he handled himself.
• 37:17
  He he's like, you know what? I'm not going to just be mad
• 37:20
  about this. I'm just going to make the best
• 37:21
  of this. And I do again, gross from Mike
• 37:26
  when Justin said let's go see Cirque du Soleil, which I'm
• 37:29
  sitting there on the couch be like, yeah, let's go see Cirque
• 37:30
  du Soleil, watch an hour Cirque du Soleil instead of the rest of
• 37:35
  this movie also. And Mike go, so you're not just
• 37:38
  disabled, but you're gay. And Justin goes sometimes, like,
• 37:42
  he didn't skip a beat. He was willing to just, like,
• 37:45
  LED. Yeah, roll with it.
• 37:47
  But also, again, Mike is ugly and gross.
• 37:49
  And they like, oh, fellas, is it gay to like to watch women in
• 37:56
  leotards do splits and stuff? Like, yeah.
• 38:00
  Mikey. Mikey is my next an absurd as
• 38:04
  well. Oh, OK.
• 38:05
  Yeah, my, MY1 absurd is Mikey is 28.
• 38:11
  We see his license and they're like 28 years old.
• 38:14
  I'm like what the fuck? This guy is 28.
• 38:16
  Don't tell me that shit. That guy is not 28 years old.
• 38:20
  It's like last night when we were watching Deadly games on
• 38:23
  the last drive in and everybody lost their fucking mind when
• 38:26
  they found out George was 40. And they're like, really?
• 38:28
  Yeah, right. Don't tell me that shit.
• 38:32
  We're all just speaking down to our asses right here.
• 38:35
  There's no fucking way. So yeah, that I thought it was
• 38:39
  very absurd. Yeah.
• 38:40
  What's yours? My absurd.
• 38:46
  There's a lot of absurd in these movies.
• 38:51
  My absurd, I suppose it's gonna be Yeah, I'm really trying to
• 39:05
  pad the time and feel like if I just keep.
• 39:08
  Talking I'm. Trying
• 39:21
  I guess my absurd is the cab driver that seems like he's a
• 39:25
  problem, but actually he just ends up rescuing Scott when he
• 39:29
  passes out. I think he is part of the crew,
• 39:32
  right? I don't know, cuz he drove them
• 39:34
  there and I think it's part of the crew.
• 39:36
  I think he was like hired to get them there for like the surprise
• 39:39
  bachelor party. But then he's just like chilling
• 39:42
  out there. Like who are you?
• 39:43
  Alfred Pennyworth? Like, yeah.
• 39:45
  Up that is, you know what? I don't think we see him again.
• 39:48
  And he did bring that guy back home.
• 39:50
  He brought Justin, not Justin. Scott.com.
• 39:53
  Justin and Scott look too much alike and they do also got
• 39:56
  Carter. None of them looks like they
• 39:58
  deserve the name they have. It's very confusing.
• 40:01
  Yeah, that's very confusing. Mikey's fitting.
• 40:04
  Yeah, Mikey works. I'm OK with Mikey.
• 40:06
  I did not have a trouble getting him in my notes at all.
• 40:09
  That sentence is a grammatical nightmare.
• 40:11
  I'm sorry. It's OK, you know, you're right
• 40:14
  there. I think he actually was good.
• 40:16
  He again. Did they get us with the tropes?
• 40:19
  Because Scott's like you're meters isn't working and then
• 40:21
  the guy's like he doesn't even say anything.
• 40:24
  He's just like, OK. Yeah, but I mean, and that's the
• 40:28
  thing, even in real life and to this day, if I get in an Uber
• 40:33
  alone or if I get in it and it's just me and my gal pals, I
• 40:41
  always send you a screenshot of like who the driver is or I will
• 40:45
  get a picture of their license and send it to you.
• 40:47
  So I'm like, by the way, if I get murdered and you always
• 40:49
  check in with me, you're like, let me know when you are out of
• 40:52
  the stranger's car. Like, it is a very real fear
• 40:55
  because it is a thing that has happened.
• 40:58
  So that's legit. But you know, he was good cab
• 41:02
  driver guy. He was good cab driver.
• 41:04
  I think that might have been his credit.
• 41:05
  Even cab driver Guy. Cab.
• 41:08
  Driver Guy. He's the foil to chainsaw
• 41:12
  bastard man. Yeah, he's the protagonist in.
• 41:17
  That movie Oh my God. We just need like a a full moon
• 41:22
  films like 9 movie series for each of them and then it ends
• 41:27
  with them. Like.
• 41:28
  Fighting each other. Fuck yeah.
• 41:29
  Yeah. OK.
• 41:31
  So now it's time to rate it, babe.
• 41:33
  OK. You know, yeah, I, I liked it a
• 41:37
  lot more this time around than I remembered.
• 41:40
  I'm going to give it a 6 1/2. Yes.
• 41:44
  Where you at? This.
• 41:47
  Honestly I have I think 2. After watching all of these
• 41:53
  again, I think 2 just barely edges this out.
• 41:56
  Are you fucking kidding me? You put it up there in the same
• 41:58
  tier. It's two.
• 42:02
  I just had two just barely edges this.
• 42:03
  Out, but it's in like yeah, you're like barely.
• 42:05
  It's you're putting in like the same tier, yeah.
• 42:09
  OK, I do not like love Hostile Part One the same way everybody
• 42:13
  else does. OK, I see its merits, but I also
• 42:17
  see its flaws. I feel like Hostile part one
• 42:19
  succeeded the most in being a scary movie.
• 42:24
  We're not gonna rehash this argument right now.
• 42:27
  I'm. Throwing down the gauntlet
• 42:29
  today. But I, I, I love this movie a
• 42:32
  lot. I think it's a lot of fun for
• 42:35
  this type of movie and I think it's successful in the the
• 42:40
  thematics of what it needs to be.
• 42:41
  So I'm gonna give it an 8. Oh, OK.
• 42:44
  So 7.25 you, you guys. He said that as I was writing
• 42:52
  the number down. Don't think that he did the
• 42:54
  math. He's doing the thing again.
• 42:56
  Just you're acting like people can read your fucking
• 42:58
  handwriting. Patrons tell me that.
• 43:01
  Check out the show notes and tell me you can read that shit.
• 43:03
  Me, me handed. Me the grocery list today I'm
• 43:06
  like, what the fuck is this shit here?
• 43:07
  I'm just I'm guessing that so. To be fair, I also shorthanded a
• 43:11
  lot of that because I wasn't expecting you to have to read my
• 43:14
  list. I knew what my list meant.
• 43:16
  I didn't expect you to. Need to know what my list meant.
• 43:19
  OK. All right then 725, that's
• 43:22
  pretty good for this. OK.
• 43:23
  All right. So ready to talk about it.
• 43:25
  Let's do. It so we have a couple of quick
• 43:32
  shots. We see somebody getting a key
• 43:34
  fob. There's some indoor smoking cuz
• 43:37
  Vegas. We see a lady in some real hot
• 43:40
  boots that I want to own, and then we see who at this point I
• 43:45
  just call Mullet Flannel Bro, which should have been the clue
• 43:49
  right there that his name was Travis.
• 43:51
  OK, OK, I I saw him and whenever it was revealed that his name
• 43:55
  was Travis, I'm like, oh fuck. Like that is my that's my
• 44:00
  clothing style. My hair does that same shit
• 44:03
  where it flares out in the back like his does.
• 44:05
  I kind of have a mower right now.
• 44:07
  If you're given the option between beer and vodka, you
• 44:10
  generally pick beer. Beer.
• 44:11
  Beer. Yeah, and I'm a piece of shit.
• 44:15
  Not. Always.
• 44:20
  Thank you. Yeah.
• 44:21
  So this is a very eye opening here.
• 44:23
  So yeah, Travis is walking around.
• 44:25
  This is like a hostel. Obviously, he opens up the door
• 44:30
  and there's still the previous tenants that were there.
• 44:34
  They're getting ready to leave. But the guy's like, hey, don't
• 44:36
  worry about it. Come on in.
• 44:37
  We'll be out in a minute. Yeah, let's have a drink
• 44:39
  together. And, you know, he pulls out his
• 44:43
  vodka and you can also see he's got, like, this wicked kind of
• 44:46
  hunting knife in his suitcase. And Travis kind of like,
• 44:49
  eyeballs it. And he's like, he goes, well,
• 44:51
  I've got beer. Still cold?
• 44:54
  In the backpack. Where'd you come?
• 44:56
  From Yeah, I this is confusing. I, I don't know.
• 44:59
  I suppose he could have just hopped off the plane at LAX.
• 45:03
  Yeah. Went to a beer cave beer liquor
• 45:05
  store. I was doing a Miley Cyrus thing.
• 45:08
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 45:12
  You immediately went to Beer Cave, so that's fine.
• 45:15
  Yeah. I mean, I suppose he could have
• 45:17
  done it, because it's not like we've never travelled places.
• 45:19
  And then we're like, well, let's get something for the room.
• 45:21
  Before we get settled in. True, yeah.
• 45:24
  So yeah, he pulls it out. And I also want to know how this
• 45:28
  works because they had to like, do a full bottle opener.
• 45:31
  Like how did he drug these beers?
• 45:34
  You know, that is a great question.
• 45:36
  Maybe they, well, he probably got them from the organization.
• 45:40
  They probably have a machine that puts the caps on that shit.
• 45:44
  They probably. Like a really strong man.
• 45:47
  Or her really strong. They got plenty of them plenty
• 45:50
  of those people there. So the girlfriends like, all
• 45:53
  right, I'm going to go take a shower and she's just like.
• 45:55
  Speaking of last night I had a beer that was called Oh.
• 45:59
  Yeah. And I ordered it like that and
• 46:01
  the bartender loved my commitment.
• 46:03
  It was. Great, I didn't tell you, but
• 46:05
  the couple that was to my left when you did that, like the
• 46:08
  woman just like shot over. Like what the fuck is that?
• 46:13
  It's funny. So yeah, the girlfriend there
• 46:16
  gets undressed and goes and hops in the shower.
• 46:19
  Yeah, and Travis is kind of eyeballing her and victors like
• 46:21
  it's okay, she thought, I get it.
• 46:23
  He goes. By the way, we went to this
• 46:25
  really cool club last night. Lots of hotties there.
• 46:27
  Let's all go get drunk. So here, take my card.
• 46:30
  I don't need it. Yeah, this guy is being such an
• 46:33
  awesome guy. I want a party with Victor and
• 46:35
  Anka. Yeah, they seem like they'd be a
• 46:37
  lot of fun. They they really do.
• 46:38
  They would be some good people. Yeah, sure.
• 46:41
  And so. He's like trying to get the card
• 46:43
  for the club, and he's asking Anka where it is.
• 46:46
  And when he goes into the bathroom, he finds her passed
• 46:48
  out when he's asking Travis to come.
• 46:50
  And at first, it looks like maybe Travis is like, a little
• 46:52
  bit shocked. You know, some people fight
• 46:55
  flight or freeze. Yeah.
• 46:56
  And he, he freeze. Yeah.
• 46:59
  He freeze. He freezed.
• 47:00
  Yeah. And he's just, like, looking
• 47:02
  there. And Victor's, like, come on,
• 47:03
  man, Do something. Do something.
• 47:05
  And then Travis just kind of there's like a very subtle
• 47:09
  shift. And then all of a sudden, like,
• 47:11
  Victor is like passing out, too. And then the mirror opens and
• 47:15
  these men in black suits come in.
• 47:16
  And Travis, like, may have given the little one too much.
• 47:21
  It's OK, we'll get, we'll be able to make up for it.
• 47:23
  Yeah, so he walks out of the place and then we get this
• 47:27
  really cool title card. Oh, we do see his tattoo first.
• 47:30
  Oh yeah, you see the? Yeah, it's a very subtle thing
• 47:32
  cuz like when Victor's passing out, he rips Travis's sleeve and
• 47:35
  when Travis goes to like roll it up, you see the dude tattoo on
• 47:38
  on his arm. So you remember in Part 2 how
• 47:41
  the guy was just free handing the?
• 47:43
  Test yes. In this movie, The hound tattoos
• 47:46
  are the code like you scan it to get access to place.
• 47:51
  So are they still free handing them?
• 47:53
  Because if so, that guy's gonna be super precise for it to
• 47:55
  register on these little key scanner things.
• 47:58
  I feel like in Vegas it's probably more of a template.
• 48:04
  My God, what am I trying to think of?
• 48:06
  Stencil. Yes, stencil but like where?
• 48:09
  Flash. Tattoo like.
• 48:10
  A flash tattoo situation. Yeah, yeah.
• 48:11
  Yeah, I feel like it's probably a little bit more like that in
• 48:14
  Vegas. Dude, that would be one of the
• 48:15
  weird, like the cruelest flash tattoo to do as a tattoo parlor.
• 48:19
  Like, hey, I saw this dude with like a hound and I was like, I
• 48:21
  want to do that. And then he just tattoos all
• 48:23
  these people, like with hounds. Oh, man.
• 48:26
  OK, yeah. So yeah, the I like the title
• 48:29
  card because it has like the little neon signs.
• 48:31
  Yeah, that's. The actual way to do it, yeah,
• 48:34
  it's like hostile. And then the light turns out
• 48:35
  it's like part three apparently. Yeah, so we cut to a man and a
• 48:40
  woman. I did not remember their names.
• 48:42
  At this point, it's Scott and Amy.
• 48:43
  They step out. Scott's got his golf bags with
• 48:46
  them. He's waiting for his best man,
• 48:48
  Carter, to come pick him up for his bachelor party.
• 48:51
  So when the airport shuttle pulls up, he is ready to go.
• 48:55
  He We have, like, gratuitous exposition where they like
• 49:02
  Carter. Just because we dated for a week
• 49:04
  in freshman year doesn't mean I still wanna be with you.
• 49:07
  I'm with Scott now. You miss now.
• 49:09
  This guy super uncomfortable. Yeah, because the guy's like,
• 49:14
  what happened to us, by the way? She's like, well, we dated.
• 49:17
  We dated. In seven years.
• 49:18
  Yeah. And I got over you.
• 49:21
  Yeah, that's pretty much. It.
• 49:24
  Yeah, that's the way people do. Yeah, Scott, not you apparently,
• 49:27
  but. Scott surely feeling hell
• 49:29
  awkward in this situation. Which I also, and honestly, and
• 49:32
  I'll talk more about this later, I'm sure, but I don't think it's
• 49:35
  that Carter is in love with Amy. I think it's that he is a rich
• 49:38
  white man. So he's not used to losing.
• 49:41
  Yeah, you know what? You're right.
• 49:42
  Yeah, it's not so much that cuz his lifestyle does not suit
• 49:48
  settling down with this woman right here.
• 49:50
  He just wanted the thing that he couldn't get.
• 49:53
  Yeah, that's that's literally all it.
• 49:54
  Is money couldn't buy it either. He just like he had to get it
• 49:57
  however, and I guess he found a way for money to.
• 49:59
  Buy it. Yeah.
• 50:00
  I mean, in the long, long roundabout way.
• 50:02
  Money Almost bought it. Almost.
• 50:04
  Yeah. So yeah, they all load up in the
• 50:07
  car and Carter hands him a drink already and it's like 10:00 AM
• 50:11
  and he's also driving and. No, they're in a shuttle.
• 50:15
  Oh, they're in a shuttle. Oh, I thought he was.
• 50:16
  Driving. No, no, they're in a shuttle.
• 50:17
  OK, well, so never mind that's. Fine.
• 50:19
  Yeah, that's fine. It's your bachelor party, I'm
• 50:21
  all. For the fuck you, dude, get
• 50:22
  bottles. Yeah, but instead he's like, by
• 50:26
  the way, we're not going. We're.
• 50:28
  Not going to Palm Springs. Yeah.
• 50:31
  So they have some champagne in the limo once they get there,
• 50:35
  and we get a lot of stock Vegas footage.
• 50:38
  Yep. Like literally all that's
• 50:40
  missing is Las Vegas. Yeah, Yep.
• 50:45
  Isn't that wild how like basically every franchise goes
• 50:48
  to Vegas at some point? Like even the fucking Rugrats
• 50:51
  did it. You're right, It's almost like
• 50:52
  space. It's like, yeah, we don't have
• 50:54
  the budget for space, so let's do the.
• 50:56
  Vegas. Vegas.
• 50:57
  Yeah, yeah, whichever one would do.
• 50:58
  So Saul could go there. Oh.
• 51:00
  My God I would love to see Saul in Vegas.
• 51:04
  John Kramer at the slot machine. Give me.
• 51:07
  I want to hear his morale. No, I want to.
• 51:09
  Hear him at the black eject table like counting cards and
• 51:12
  then he they try to get him in trouble for accounting cards and
• 51:14
  then that person saw trap. How else am I supposed to fund
• 51:18
  my shit? Dude, I want to.
• 51:21
  Yeah, like, they're doing too well in the saw traps.
• 51:26
  So he's like, all right, well, now the Pit Master has to step
• 51:30
  in and make shit a little bit more difficult for you.
• 51:32
  Yeah. Shit man, we're just spouting
• 51:36
  ideas all over the place here. We're on fire.
• 51:38
  We are OK. So they arrived to, I guess like
• 51:43
  they meet up with the rest of the crew.
• 51:45
  It's Justin and Mikey. They hit up the casino.
• 51:50
  Yeah, we have a little gambling montage and then we get Mikey
• 51:54
  being cynical about marriage. Seems like a shame that you went
• 51:58
  ahead and got married and had two children.
• 52:01
  And you also hate being like, listen, we got married young.
• 52:05
  Yeah, it worked for us. It's what we wanted.
• 52:07
  Clearly it's still working for us.
• 52:09
  But 28 is pretty young to be married and have two kids.
• 52:13
  It's not the right call for everybody.
• 52:16
  And maybe if you're this fucking cynical about it, don't settle
• 52:18
  down. Don't do it just because you're
• 52:20
  being told, oh, well, I've been in a relationship this long.
• 52:22
  I need to go ahead and just propose and let's have kids and
• 52:24
  buy a house and move out to the suburbs.
• 52:27
  And the taxes are a little bit higher, but it's a great school
• 52:30
  system. Like God, yeah, you sound like
• 52:33
  Mikey over. Here, Yeah.
• 52:35
  Yeah. And also all of this is
• 52:36
  happening. We're also getting shots of them
• 52:39
  in the cages. It's Victor and I.
• 52:42
  Think it's Anka and they do come and get Anka, but the
• 52:46
  implication before was that she might not be.
• 52:50
  Boy, there, she's still kind of stays.
• 52:52
  In the cage, yeah. And.
• 52:54
  They take a route of the cage. Yeah, so.
• 52:57
  I think maybe they just forgot to shoot her death scene and
• 53:02
  they just kind of ice boxed it that way.
• 53:04
  They might not. Yeah, so they are in the casino
• 53:07
  still, and then Kendra and Nikki are eyeing them, so they go and
• 53:11
  approach them and they ask if they want to hang out and, you
• 53:15
  know, do some shit, do some gambling party.
• 53:17
  Do you like, do you like freaky? Do you like the movie with Vince
• 53:21
  Vegan? Vince Vegan, Yeah.
• 53:24
  So they invite them to a freaky club.
• 53:30
  So they are. Kendra and Nikki take them off
• 53:37
  the strip because that's where the freaky party is.
• 53:40
  Yeah, they put them into a cab, the meters off, and the guys
• 53:45
  experience a sense of fear that women have generally throughout
• 53:49
  their lives, day-to-day. It's.
• 53:52
  Just Scott, because Scott is the only one that notices that the
• 53:55
  meter isn't running, which is sketchy.
• 53:57
  Yeah, you don't know the thing about it.
• 53:59
  It makes sense because they probably prepaid and arranged
• 54:01
  this trip already. Yes, and I'm I am 100% certain
• 54:05
  that's what it is, which I kind of alluded to during Good, Bad,
• 54:09
  ugly and Absurd once again. It's just no piece.
• 54:11
  It's it's common together. Mom, I'm not trying this take
• 54:14
  shit from me. I'm just, I'm slow.
• 54:17
  I know it's just stupid. I keep that.
• 54:21
  I swear to God I'm not doing this.
• 54:22
  Intentionally, I know. So they arrived there.
• 54:24
  It's a really sketchy looking place.
• 54:26
  It's. Yeah, it's deserted.
• 54:27
  There's this like one door that they knock on and when the
• 54:30
  bouncer opens it up, they just use Kendra and Nicky's name and
• 54:33
  it works and they go in. The guy, I the guy gives creepy
• 54:36
  vibes again. He's like, oh, you're gonna have
• 54:39
  a good time. Yeah.
• 54:41
  What does that mean? That doesn't sound good, but you
• 54:42
  know what? It kind of is good I guess.
• 54:44
  Well, Scott gets strapped to a wheelchair and he gets his eyes
• 54:47
  covered and he's very upset about this, as you do.
• 54:53
  No, he gets like a fucking funnel shoved down his mouth and
• 54:56
  he's forced to chug a beer. Yeah, and surprise, it's a
• 55:00
  surprise bachelor party. I will say 1 great thing about
• 55:03
  this scene is there's a lot of boob diversity.
• 55:06
  Yeah, you see all kinds of different boobs and I think.
• 55:08
  That's really nice sizes. Shapes, sizes, different nipples
• 55:11
  and areolas. One of them has like a tattoo.
• 55:14
  Yeah. Which, ow hey, you know.
• 55:18
  Yeah, yeah. And they're like all partying,
• 55:21
  having a good time. Mikey is getting really nursery
• 55:25
  with Nikki. Yeah, which I mean, that's kind
• 55:28
  of their whole profession thing. That's true.
• 55:31
  Yeah. So that's happening.
• 55:33
  And Justin starts to flirt with this rude lady who, as soon as
• 55:36
  she sees the cane, she, like, makes a face and walk away.
• 55:39
  And Nikki is like, wow, that's shitty.
• 55:43
  She's like, I don't think your friend's gonna last long, so how
• 55:46
  about you just hang around here a little?
• 55:48
  Bit you later? Yeah.
• 55:49
  And then Scott is isolated with Kendra.
• 55:52
  Kendra's trying to initiate sex, but he's like, look, I can't do
• 55:57
  it right now. It's my bachelor party.
• 55:58
  I'm engaged. I already got in trouble for
• 56:01
  cheating on my wife last year and I promised her I would never
• 56:03
  do that again. Yeah, I almost lost that
• 56:05
  relationship. It was an eye opener.
• 56:07
  I don't want that to happen again.
• 56:08
  Yeah, also I feel very sick and I need to go outside for some
• 56:12
  fresh air. Yeah.
• 56:13
  Yep. So he goes outside, he vomits
• 56:16
  into a trash can, and then Alfred Pennyworth comes and
• 56:18
  scoops him up as he. Passes that nice taxi cab.
• 56:21
  Man, nice taxi cab. Man the the, you know, mortal
• 56:26
  enemy of Chainsaw. Bastard man.
• 56:28
  Yeah, yeah. So we get we see a car driving
• 56:33
  to like a locked compound, and then we see Scott waking up in
• 56:36
  the hotel room and we are hearing sounds and it's just the
• 56:40
  blender and he's just hungover and hurting.
• 56:43
  Yeah. Card is making a smoothie.
• 56:45
  Justin's in there reading the paper.
• 56:48
  Mikey's not there. Yeah.
• 56:51
  Scott asks how he got back, and we don't know.
• 56:53
  You were just here when we got back, Mike.
• 56:56
  They said that they think he was still with Kendra, so they're
• 57:00
  not too concerned. But he has his phone off because
• 57:04
  he doesn't like to communicate with his family when he's on a
• 57:06
  trip. What a Peach.
• 57:08
  Yeah, right, man, there's red flags about this dude all and.
• 57:11
  He even changed his voicemail. He's like I'm in Vegas, leave me
• 57:13
  the fuck alone or. Something like that and.
• 57:15
  It's like, dude, chill, Yeah. We cut over to Mikey, though.
• 57:19
  He wakes up in a cage next to Victor.
• 57:22
  I like how Victor's whole thing in this movie is basically like,
• 57:25
  Oh yeah, you're going to die. Yeah, he's kind of the
• 57:28
  harbinger. He really is.
• 57:29
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 57:30
  I don't know why they're not killing me, but it seems like
• 57:33
  everybody else that comes in here is dying.
• 57:34
  Yeah, it's funny because he keeps telling everybody when
• 57:36
  they come in here that they're going to die.
• 57:38
  And it's kind of like, well, Victor, Victor, you're still
• 57:41
  here. Yeah, so maybe not.
• 57:43
  Yeah, maybe not. Maybe I'll be another Victor.
• 57:46
  Yeah, what do I know? Is it because his name is
• 57:49
  Victor? He is the Victor.
• 57:52
  Maybe. Maybe they is.
• 57:54
  So fucking deep dude, Damn. It is deep.
• 57:56
  It is so deep. OK, so.
• 58:01
  They they take Mike, he's like trying to offer money and
• 58:07
  they're like, you've been paid for.
• 58:10
  Honestly, that's kind of a terrifying line.
• 58:12
  Like paid for for what? Yeah, right.
• 58:14
  Like, yeah, that's yeah, they. Drag him to the torture room.
• 58:17
  Yeah, we see a screen that says Wheel of Misfortune, which
• 58:23
  obvious but still fun. Yeah.
• 58:25
  And yeah, he's strapped to a chair and people are just like,
• 58:30
  watching. They're being served by women in
• 58:33
  hot shorts and suspenders and. No top but.
• 58:37
  Nothing else. The nipples are covered.
• 58:39
  Yeah, with the suspenders, yes. Yes, that.
• 58:42
  I don't think they're like pasties or something on
• 58:45
  probably. Does not feel.
• 58:46
  Good, that rubbing. Yeah, yeah.
• 58:51
  So Mikey's guy comes in, He is torturer.
• 58:54
  He's dressed all up like a doctor and he he starts to like
• 59:01
  toy with Mikey. Yeah, he pulls some stuff out of
• 59:04
  the bag, including a $7.00 serif from Head that they got at the
• 59:07
  craft section at Walmart. And I know because I have the
• 59:09
  exact same one. Yeah, yeah.
• 59:12
  He's like just setting stuff out.
• 59:13
  He pulls out a drill that, you know, the driller killer would,
• 59:18
  you know, respect is like the first attempt.
• 59:20
  Yeah, yeah. That's that's probably what he
• 59:22
  started out with too. Yeah, and he's like starting to
• 59:25
  mess with him. And then he's like, please
• 59:27
  don't. I've got a wife and two kids and
• 59:30
  I'm only 28. And that's the most shocking
• 59:32
  moment of the entire movie. So that's the big twist right
• 59:35
  there, folks. But I like it.
• 59:37
  As soon as he says that the voice over lady says that like
• 59:41
  the people who won the over under for when he would use his
• 59:44
  family as leverage like she announces those winners.
• 59:47
  That's funny. Yeah, so they gag him and then
• 59:51
  he's still fucking with him with the drill.
• 59:53
  But this while Mikey's freaking out, he accidentally spits on
• 59:56
  the guy's face. Which makes him very mad so he
• 59:59
  puts a little mask on him and then he picks up a scalpel and
• 1:00:04
  like. Outlines off his face.
• 1:00:07
  Yeah, he he. Does like little sharpie
• 1:00:08
  outlines on his face. And then he cuts it, yeah, and
• 1:00:10
  pulls the face off. And then he holds it up for the
• 1:00:13
  audience. So Scott is worried about Mike.
• 1:00:17
  And Justin's like, well, I've got Nikki's card.
• 1:00:22
  We can probably find where she lives.
• 1:00:24
  And Carter, for a moment, is surprised at this level of
• 1:00:29
  sleeves, which is surprising that Carter can be a surprise.
• 1:00:32
  I know. Yeah.
• 1:00:32
  And Justin's like, yeah, I've done some cyber stalking.
• 1:00:36
  He's like, I'm really fucking good at this shit, guys.
• 1:00:38
  I know exactly what. You think there's a dark back
• 1:00:41
  story to Justin there? Yeah, for real.
• 1:00:44
  So so yeah, they go to her home and they break in.
• 1:00:47
  It's. A trailer park, which Jesse
• 1:00:49
  mentioned is kind of a trope of Vegas movies like Showgirls.
• 1:00:52
  Yeah, and I've read it in books too.
• 1:00:55
  It's like. Work outside the.
• 1:00:56
  Strip like they? Yeah, people.
• 1:00:57
  Yeah, people that work around that are just like from trailer
• 1:01:00
  parks. Or something cuz again, it's the
• 1:01:02
  whole thing like they're not really, you know, making a huge
• 1:01:05
  living off of that. It's.
• 1:01:07
  Getting by, yeah. So yeah, they break into Nikki's
• 1:01:12
  trailer. I can't find anybody there but
• 1:01:15
  Kendra Bustin with another dude with a gun and they hold them.
• 1:01:19
  Dude, this guy looks like such a trope too.
• 1:01:22
  He does. He's right.
• 1:01:23
  On the black tank top and he's got like the Buster and the Gray
• 1:01:27
  beard and like, I'm like, you know what though?
• 1:01:29
  I would want him to help me stop some home invaders.
• 1:01:32
  Yeah, he'd be a good asset to have.
• 1:01:35
  Yeah, he looks like the stereotypical bad, hostile man.
• 1:01:38
  Yes, he was this. Movie's deep again.
• 1:01:44
  So deep my. God yes, so.
• 1:01:48
  We weren't here that Kendra wasn't part of it, and neither
• 1:01:51
  was Nikki. Yeah.
• 1:01:53
  So she's like, yeah, Nikki never came home either, so.
• 1:01:56
  I don't know, I also kind of like Kendra be like, oh what?
• 1:02:00
  His Dick was so magical that Nikki forgot what her entire
• 1:02:03
  fucking job is and just abandoned her home to spend the
• 1:02:07
  night with him. No thank you.
• 1:02:08
  I was like. Whoa, have you seen this movie
• 1:02:11
  called Pieces? Movies about this guy with a
• 1:02:14
  magical Dick. Yeah, so, so magical that he
• 1:02:16
  gets expelled. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:20
  So magical he becomes a cop. I wrote Carter you Dick here and
• 1:02:24
  I forget exactly what it was he said, but I was apparently very
• 1:02:27
  mad at him. He he starts trashing Kendra and
• 1:02:32
  the dude there, he's being in Dick to them.
• 1:02:34
  OK. I can't remember exactly what he
• 1:02:36
  said, but he's not nice. We see Travis and he is looking
• 1:02:40
  through costumes for Nikki and ends up with a cheerleader
• 1:02:43
  outfit. And I feel like they had him AD
• 1:02:47
  Lib here and he was like rah rah rah because that's the extent of
• 1:02:55
  his dialogue in this moment. And he was like, I don't know
• 1:02:57
  anything about cheerleading. Give.
• 1:03:00
  Me a rah. Like I would love it if he was
• 1:03:03
  like, you're still big red. Like throw out some, bring it
• 1:03:09
  on. Yeah, bring it on.
• 1:03:10
  Go to Taurus. Damn, it's cold in here.
• 1:03:16
  It starts actually. Just kidding.
• 1:03:19
  So let's should we? Should we do some crumping?
• 1:03:24
  Fucking Crump dude. They started crumping in this
• 1:03:26
  movie. I'd lose.
• 1:03:28
  They they make her Crump until she just like crumps to death.
• 1:03:34
  Torture right there. All right, now, Crump.
• 1:03:36
  Yeah. So yeah, they have her dressed
• 1:03:41
  as the cheerleader. She's in the torture room and a
• 1:03:43
  man arrives. And he just starts take, he
• 1:03:46
  takes out this little vial with a dropper in it and just starts
• 1:03:48
  like, and like you can see her like tensing up and we're all
• 1:03:53
  sitting here like what is about to have it is this acid like,
• 1:03:56
  and it goes sweet like you. And she's like, what?
• 1:04:00
  And then he pulls out Madagascar hissing cockroaches, because
• 1:04:05
  that is the only type of roaches that movies and television use
• 1:04:07
  for whatever. Reason.
• 1:04:08
  They're big, they're scary, and apparently they're deadly.
• 1:04:12
  Yeah, well, especially when you open your mouth and let them
• 1:04:15
  like climb inside like you're from The Mummy.
• 1:04:18
  Exactly. Yeah, they're very deadly in
• 1:04:20
  that scenario. So yeah, she's dead.
• 1:04:23
  Yeah, and that big time. How long does it take to die
• 1:04:27
  like that? Dude, I don't even want to know.
• 1:04:29
  Yeah, I'm glad we didn't get to see that one play all the way
• 1:04:32
  out. Hold on, I'm gonna Google this
• 1:04:34
  real quick. It's fine cuz I'm editing.
• 1:04:35
  OK, so apparently the short answer is that she would have
• 1:04:40
  just suffocated with a crawling down.
• 1:04:44
  Yeah, crawling down her windpipe and that's horrible.
• 1:04:47
  Smothering her bronchial tubes. That's a terrifying.
• 1:04:50
  Way. Yeah, that's a terrifying way to
• 1:04:52
  go, but at least it's not like the Roach is eating her.
• 1:04:54
  I don't know if that's better or worse, but it's like it's
• 1:04:57
  different. Think of like choking on water,
• 1:05:01
  but the. Water has legs.
• 1:05:03
  Yeah, it's just crawling all around.
• 1:05:05
  You don't want to do that. No, that's nasty.
• 1:05:07
  No, don't want any part of it. OK, so.
• 1:05:11
  Justin gets a text from Mikey's phone saying sorry been gone
• 1:05:15
  been crashed all day and then replies again.
• 1:05:18
  Is like with Nikki still sleeping?
• 1:05:20
  And they sent a picture of her, and it's like right after she
• 1:05:23
  had just died. Travis looks so pleased with
• 1:05:25
  himself taking that picture. He's like, yeah, he'll
• 1:05:28
  definitely buy this. She doesn't like that at all.
• 1:05:30
  Then he sends an address and so they go to that address and
• 1:05:34
  Justin and Justin stays in the car cuz he's like, dude, my leg
• 1:05:39
  really fucking hurts. Which I get that.
• 1:05:41
  I've been there. It it took a long time for my
• 1:05:43
  knee to get to a point. Like there were some days that I
• 1:05:45
  just like I can't do any more walking.
• 1:05:47
  Yeah, we're done. Yeah, so he says behind.
• 1:05:49
  Yeah. Carter and Sky break.
• 1:05:52
  OK. It's a it's a hostel and it's
• 1:05:54
  called hostel. They find Nikki's purse in the
• 1:05:57
  room that the room number that they were given and Nikki's
• 1:05:59
  phone is or Mike's phone is in the room.
• 1:06:01
  There's a note that says that they stepped out and they'll be
• 1:06:03
  back, but go ahead and have a beer while you wait.
• 1:06:06
  So Carter is grabbed in the secret mirror because this is
• 1:06:10
  the room from the beginning and he has grabbed and pulled in,
• 1:06:14
  and the others are grabbed like snuck up behind and taken as
• 1:06:18
  well. Travis comes outside and sees
• 1:06:20
  Justin in the car and he says that Mike asked for him and
• 1:06:23
  Justin's like, OK, let me call him real quick because Justin's
• 1:06:25
  smart. Yeah, he, yeah, he's the
• 1:06:27
  smartest guy in this whole group.
• 1:06:29
  Yeah. He's like, yeah, yeah, he sent
• 1:06:30
  me here to come pick you up and. OK.
• 1:06:32
  Yeah, and then Travis tries, he amazes him, and Justin hits him
• 1:06:36
  with his cane. It's actually like it's an
• 1:06:38
  effective. Yeah, and it knocks him down.
• 1:06:41
  That Justin spent money on that cane, Yeah.
• 1:06:43
  Like it's this solid. He wanted to make sure that I
• 1:06:45
  would last him because he needs it all the time.
• 1:06:47
  They get in a pretty good little fight.
• 1:06:48
  Right here. Yeah.
• 1:06:50
  And eventually we cut to all of them in cells, and Justin is
• 1:06:53
  taken. Victor says that they should
• 1:06:56
  just go ahead and say their goodbyes.
• 1:06:57
  And then Carter flashes his elite hunting club tattoo,
• 1:07:01
  which, by the way, it took until very far into the movie for me
• 1:07:05
  to remember what they were called.
• 1:07:06
  And I kept thinking of them as The Bloodhound Gang, which I
• 1:07:09
  knew was not correct, but I did not know what else to call them.
• 1:07:11
  The. Bloodhound Gang, Yeah.
• 1:07:12
  You know, it seems right. So yeah, they're.
• 1:07:17
  UCK, you know. They're very upset with Carter
• 1:07:21
  because he. Carter, you did.
• 1:07:24
  A fucking Dick here. He kind of staged.
• 1:07:27
  This, Yeah, he leaves Scott Scott's like, dude, what the
• 1:07:30
  fuck? Then he meets with Fleming.
• 1:07:34
  Fleming, it talks, he apologizes for the inconvenience of Carter
• 1:07:40
  getting locked up. He's like, but you also have to
• 1:07:42
  understand that normally we pick people that don't have lives
• 1:07:46
  outside of here and they're not going to be easily missed.
• 1:07:49
  So you've caused us quite a bit of inconvenience as well.
• 1:07:53
  So and he's like, but I am a top tier client.
• 1:07:57
  And besides, I brought you those women, which should recuperate
• 1:08:00
  to the cost. And then the men here are just
• 1:08:02
  collateral damage. Yeah.
• 1:08:04
  So it's all very cold and calculated.
• 1:08:06
  Yeah, so we cut to Justin. He's in the torture room.
• 1:08:12
  He is strapped to a chair as well and then this room fills
• 1:08:15
  with smoke and then Predator comes out and shoots him with a
• 1:08:18
  crossbow. Straight up, she may have been
• 1:08:21
  living out her Predator fantasy here.
• 1:08:24
  You know what, Yeah. If you're paying money to do
• 1:08:27
  stuff like this, I guess, you know, do the full fantasy.
• 1:08:30
  It's gross. She shoots him in the Dick too,
• 1:08:32
  like multiple times with the crossbow.
• 1:08:34
  Yeah, it's. It feels personal, it really.
• 1:08:36
  Does like he was the one of the good ones.
• 1:08:39
  It's cyber stalking aside cyber. Stalking aside, yeah.
• 1:08:43
  That's sad. That's our standard for those
• 1:08:45
  groups. The cyber stalker is the least
• 1:08:48
  problematic of them. Yeah, he could be one of those
• 1:08:51
  guys. Like I'm really good at Facebook
• 1:08:52
  searches. Yeah, maybe.
• 1:08:54
  That's the extent of. It yeah like he just knows how
• 1:08:56
  to use Google. Yeah Google like cyber stalker.
• 1:08:58
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:09:00
  So yeah, he is killed. Victor is worried about Unka.
• 1:09:06
  He still does not know what happened.
• 1:09:07
  To him, Victor and Scott have like a broom on it where they
• 1:09:09
  were like just weep over their lost loves.
• 1:09:13
  Yeah, yeah. And then he tells Scott.
• 1:09:16
  And Kendra's like, all right, you guys are going to die.
• 1:09:18
  This is my job now. He's like, it's a good thing
• 1:09:20
  you're not married because now your fiance won't be a widow.
• 1:09:23
  Damn, yeah, that's harsh. That's.
• 1:09:25
  Harsh. So Scott gets dragged away and
• 1:09:28
  he gets taken to his torture room.
• 1:09:31
  Except this Harder is his killer.
• 1:09:33
  Yeah. He's like this cheap black suit
• 1:09:37
  didn't have time to fly out. The one for your wedding.
• 1:09:39
  But I guess this will just have to work for your funeral.
• 1:09:42
  They have the knife block. It was the one that Amy
• 1:09:46
  registered for from Bloomies. And he's like, I'm so glad they
• 1:09:48
  were able to get this. It's fucking bloomy.
• 1:09:51
  It's like that's not. Outrageous.
• 1:09:54
  Like, yeah, it's. Funny.
• 1:09:55
  Oh man, we got a Bloomingdale's knife block here.
• 1:09:58
  How wild. It's not like super rare or
• 1:10:00
  anything like. That yeah, it's.
• 1:10:01
  Kind of funny, yeah. So he's going to try and kill
• 1:10:04
  him with that shit. Because it's symbolic.
• 1:10:05
  He wanted symbolic. He wanted the girl.
• 1:10:08
  He said that he's done plenty of these so far and it's just
• 1:10:12
  losing. It's fun for him and he needs to
• 1:10:15
  really up the ante. The kills need to matter and
• 1:10:17
  what better way than to kill his long time friend and go be the
• 1:10:21
  shoulder that his fiance cries on?
• 1:10:23
  Oh yeah, and Scott realizes that he told Amy about the whole
• 1:10:29
  cheating, so which I'm not. Don't get mad about that man you
• 1:10:32
  got. You got caught.
• 1:10:33
  You did the cheat. Yeah.
• 1:10:35
  Like that was the wrong time to throw that line in there because
• 1:10:39
  it makes that like a little less sympathetic, like.
• 1:10:42
  They're still shooting man. Like don't get mad at him for
• 1:10:44
  the thing that you did. Yeah, it kind of gives off an
• 1:10:47
  air of you're only sorry about cheating because you got caught.
• 1:10:49
  Yeah, like you betrayed. That person you're.
• 1:10:52
  Supposedly loves trust. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:55
  So he's kind of a Dick here. Yeah.
• 1:10:57
  But anyway, he's like, shouting at him, saying how could he have
• 1:11:00
  killed all of his friends, da, da, da.
• 1:11:02
  And eventually the audience votes to let him be unstrapped
• 1:11:06
  so they can fight. And I think that's fun.
• 1:11:09
  And, you know, Fleming was just fucking over Carter at this
• 1:11:12
  point. He's like, you know, we're going
• 1:11:13
  to really recuperate some costs here.
• 1:11:14
  Yeah, yeah. They're like, you know what?
• 1:11:16
  Because he was like showboating a little bit too.
• 1:11:18
  And he's already caused him a lot of trouble.
• 1:11:19
  He's like fuck it, let him free. So yeah, he just like gets his
• 1:11:23
  like walk unlocked and then he they start having a big fight
• 1:11:28
  and he ends up beating Carter. Yeah, and he cuts off his tattoo
• 1:11:33
  so he can use it to get through the doors and get out.
• 1:11:35
  Should've killed him. Yeah, and he runs into the room,
• 1:11:38
  he releases Victor, who takes a guard and takes a guard's Taser
• 1:11:42
  and then tases that guard to death.
• 1:11:44
  Dude, yeah, Victor is like getting his shit.
• 1:11:47
  He's like I kill now. The more I watch, the more we're
• 1:11:50
  talking about this, the more I think that Shyamalan watched
• 1:11:53
  this and was like, I wanna take some ideas from this and like a
• 1:11:56
  really absurd maybe, and we're gonna have fun.
• 1:11:59
  Yeah, that's what I think happened on this track.
• 1:12:02
  So they are running around he's. Trying alarms are going off.
• 1:12:07
  Scott has found the room where all of the people's belongings
• 1:12:10
  have been stored, and he's trying to find a cell phone to
• 1:12:13
  make a call to the cops. He sees his dead friends, he has
• 1:12:16
  a sad moment, he knocks out the power and then.
• 1:12:19
  Victor does. Victor takes like.
• 1:12:20
  A fuck backs. And just it's like nails, one of
• 1:12:24
  the. OK.
• 1:12:25
  Pipes and it just shuts power off, yeah.
• 1:12:27
  Fleming tells Travis to kill the witnesses.
• 1:12:32
  And Travis is like, so just like the people in the cells.
• 1:12:36
  And he goes all of them. Yeah.
• 1:12:38
  So even the wealthy people and Fleming, as far as a bad guy
• 1:12:42
  goes, he's a good one because he understands that like the more
• 1:12:46
  people there are, the harder it is to contain something like
• 1:12:48
  this. I bet it was his idea to put out
• 1:12:51
  the vote to let Carter and Scott vote because then he can deal
• 1:12:55
  with this problem client of his that is eventually going to
• 1:12:58
  cause problems for the elite hunting club.
• 1:13:00
  Oh, you know what? I bet you're right.
• 1:13:01
  Yeah, damn deep. Deep so Scott get kind and cold
• 1:13:13
  no. Scott takes guard.
• 1:13:16
  So Scott, oh, Scott takes the guard shotgun.
• 1:13:22
  He he battles like he like killed one of the guards that
• 1:13:27
  came in and then he ends up taking his shotgun and then he
• 1:13:32
  rescues Kendra with it from the cage.
• 1:13:35
  Kendra Scott gets Kendra out. Yeah, OK.
• 1:13:38
  So they are running away. And then Travis shoots, Travis
• 1:13:42
  shoots their run there. Yeah, and that was sad.
• 1:13:44
  Kendra did not deserve to die like that.
• 1:13:47
  So Carter stabs. Oh.
• 1:13:52
  Yeah. The fucking guy, the guy he's,
• 1:13:55
  he's waiting in the. Yeah, he's waiting in Fleming's
• 1:13:57
  car and he kills Fleming, steals his car, uses him for the, the,
• 1:14:03
  the, the barrier spikes. No, he uses him for the barrier
• 1:14:07
  spike so he can drive his car out because they've got Yeah.
• 1:14:10
  Falling apart here. At the you are falling apart.
• 1:14:12
  So he gets out there and he gets past the gate and he locks it.
• 1:14:16
  And just as he's locking it, Scott runs up and he's like bye,
• 1:14:22
  bye. And then there's an explosion
• 1:14:24
  and Scott is thrown up against the gay violently.
• 1:14:27
  We cut to an urn on a shelf. Amy's really sad.
• 1:14:31
  She's leaning up against Carter, who's just ready to swoop in.
• 1:14:35
  It feels like maybe this is the next day almost, which like
• 1:14:39
  feels very abrupt. Like it's like it's so.
• 1:14:42
  Sad. It really did feel like it was
• 1:14:44
  like the next hour was like, Yep.
• 1:14:45
  So he's sad, yeah. And she's like, Carter, I don't
• 1:14:50
  want to be alone tonight. And he's like, and she was like,
• 1:14:55
  let me go get some champagne. And then she pulls a Friday 13th
• 1:15:00
  part four, and he's like, hey, Carter, there's just one
• 1:15:05
  problem. He's alive and stabs his hand to
• 1:15:08
  the table. Yeah.
• 1:15:10
  And then Scott comes out and he's got his own little torture
• 1:15:15
  room. Yep, he's got the garage.
• 1:15:17
  It's full of power tools. He says we're gonna finish up
• 1:15:21
  that bachelor part of you plan, buddy.
• 1:15:23
  And then he pulls out a roto tiller.
• 1:15:26
  Dude, yeah, that was a gnarly, gnarly choice.
• 1:15:29
  I respect it. Yeah, see, that's the thing.
• 1:15:31
  You have so many fun tools to play with if you choose that as
• 1:15:34
  your torture room. Yeah, it was.
• 1:15:36
  Cool, you have to be like an efficient homeowner.
• 1:15:39
  You do. Yeah.
• 1:15:40
  Yeah. But it was cool.
• 1:15:42
  I like the way that they ended this movie.
• 1:15:44
  Yeah. And yeah.
• 1:15:45
  It was a nice little little twist there because usually it's
• 1:15:48
  like the member of the elite hunting club like pops up and is
• 1:15:51
  like, haha, I got you, but but it's.
• 1:15:54
  Yeah, no, no, listen. Which realistically, they
• 1:15:58
  probably know that Scott's still alive, so Scott's probably going
• 1:16:01
  to die sometime down the line. But all of the people that were
• 1:16:04
  in that building probably died in the explosion.
• 1:16:06
  The only reason Scott's still alive is because he was like,
• 1:16:08
  outside. Everybody's dead.
• 1:16:09
  Yeah, 'cause he even Fleming. 'S yeah.
• 1:16:12
  Fleming. Yeah.
• 1:16:12
  His body was used for the barrier spikes.
• 1:16:14
  Travis presumably died in the explosion.
• 1:16:17
  Yep. Travis got his arm chopped off.
• 1:16:19
  We didn't even talk about that. But yeah, he he, he got fucked
• 1:16:23
  poor. Victoria, Victor, RIP.
• 1:16:25
  Did Victor? Survive.
• 1:16:26
  No, he wouldn't have survived. I think we see him getting
• 1:16:29
  killed at one point. There's a lot of action that was
• 1:16:31
  happening there. Was hard to keep up with my
• 1:16:33
  notes. I think Victor makes it.
• 1:16:35
  I don't think Victor died. I.
• 1:16:36
  Don't think Victor got out. Victor comes back and gets
• 1:16:42
  Scott. Victor Victorious.
• 1:16:45
  Victor was the nice guy, cab guy all along.
• 1:16:48
  OK, OK, we're done here. I think it's, I think it's fun.
• 1:16:54
  I think it's just as fun as the other ones.
• 1:16:57
  And I don't know, it feels less full of itself, like it just
• 1:17:01
  knows it's a silly movie and it just does its thing.
• 1:17:05
  Because I think I'm keeping mine 6 1/2 OK, but I do like this one
• 1:17:10
  a lot more than I did going into it because I, I don't know, I I
• 1:17:16
  looked at it through another lens this time around and it was
• 1:17:19
  just. That's what we do here, you
• 1:17:22
  know. Yeah, which is kind of cool.
• 1:17:24
  Like movies that you hate at one point and then you just like,
• 1:17:27
  revisit it later and you're like, huh, you know what?
• 1:17:29
  Really? Not that.
• 1:17:29
  Terrible. Yeah, actually.
• 1:17:31
  Yeah, yeah. It's, it's OK.
• 1:17:32
  Yeah, it's pretty good. OK, so Talia was very squeaky,
• 1:17:37
  squeaky, squeaky, squeaky. We actually had to take her
• 1:17:39
  Ralphie away from her because that is her loudest toy that she
• 1:17:43
  owns aside from Giggleball. Yeah, and it just, she was going
• 1:17:48
  at it and you tricked her, and then she spent the rest of the
• 1:17:50
  movie whining because she didn't know where it was.
• 1:17:53
  She likes to play with it while we watch movies.
• 1:17:57
  Specifically for the podcast. Yes.
• 1:17:59
  Yeah. I don't know how she makes it.
• 1:18:01
  Maybe when she sees her binder she's like let me get mine too.
• 1:18:03
  Yeah, she's like here on my notes, Yeah.
• 1:18:07
  I don't know what it is, but yeah, she was.
• 1:18:09
  She was very loud, but it was whatever.
• 1:18:11
  She was a happy puppy. She also had to go out at 11
• 1:18:13
  minutes and 34 seconds in one hour and 15 minutes.
• 1:18:16
  So I think Talia is going to give this A7.
• 1:18:19
  I think she would have given it more points if my kid said that
• 1:18:23
  he had a wife, two kids and a dog that he needed to go home
• 1:18:26
  to. I think that I think she lost
• 1:18:28
  sympathy for him at that point. Yeah, it could have been like,
• 1:18:32
  marriage sucks, I hate my wife, I hate my kids, love my dog.
• 1:18:35
  Yeah, I feel like tell you been like, that's the correct answer.
• 1:18:38
  Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
• 1:18:40
  So who's Zoes? Ultimate Warrior.
• 1:18:42
  There's a lot of people here. I I think she likes Victor.
• 1:18:48
  You know what? Yeah, cuz Victor.
• 1:18:49
  He just shouts at the guards until he eventually gets free
• 1:18:52
  and causes mayhem. Yeah, yeah, it's absolutely
• 1:18:55
  Victor. Yeah, and once he's free, he is
• 1:18:58
  fucking vicious. Yes, absolutely.
• 1:19:01
  He just master of disaster. Yeah, it's totally correct.
• 1:19:05
  OK. OK, cool.
• 1:19:07
  Who did you relate to? Travis, like I don't like it,
• 1:19:12
  but I mean, the guy was kind of like the on the outside, like
• 1:19:18
  me. I hope I'm now I come on the
• 1:19:20
  inside. I don't think I am, but maybe I
• 1:19:23
  am. Don't look at me like that.
• 1:19:28
  Did I relate to probably NICU when she saw that one bitch at
• 1:19:32
  the barn was like God what's her fucking problem cuz I feel like
• 1:19:35
  I would have that same reaction. Yeah, like what the fuck is
• 1:19:38
  wrong with her? Yeah, she's fucking sex.
• 1:19:40
  Yeah, OK, cool. OK, and we already did our dream
• 1:19:43
  sequel cuz that was just it. It hit us.
• 1:19:47
  Inspiration struck. Yeah, I mean, I think that we,
• 1:19:49
  you know, like unhinged and hostile can make a good little
• 1:19:53
  crossover. And hostile.
• 1:19:55
  And hostile. I like it.
• 1:19:59
  I like it a lot. OK, now we have to come up with
• 1:20:03
  a new tagline. OK, well, there's some, there's
• 1:20:08
  plenty of Vegas things that you could.
• 1:20:09
  Do yeah. Let's see, put it all in red.
• 1:20:20
  Put it all on dead. Put it all on dead.
• 1:20:24
  Yes, I like that. I'm gonna do like a little
• 1:20:27
  crossed out red and put it on dead.
• 1:20:30
  Yeah, OK. That's awesome.
• 1:20:32
  Cool. OK, time for reviews.
• 1:20:35
  That's me at. First, yeah, Internet review.
• 1:20:37
  You're right. Go ahead.
• 1:20:39
  I'm now gonna try and take that one from you, OK?
• 1:20:41
  So I actually had pulled two reviews because I did not know
• 1:20:45
  where you were standing with this.
• 1:20:46
  OK. So I'll read the one out of 10.
• 1:20:50
  OK well I've arrived at the final Hostile movie until the TV
• 1:20:54
  show and it's Hostile part three 2011.
• 1:20:57
  Also this is a direct to video sequel and it has no involvement
• 1:21:00
  from Eli Roth. One more thing, this is the
• 1:21:02
  worst installment of the Hostile franchise, which isn't
• 1:21:04
  surprising because the other two were garbage.
• 1:21:06
  But what is shocking is that this movie was directed by Scott
• 1:21:08
  Spiegel, one of the Co writers of Evil Dead 21987.
• 1:21:11
  Like what happened there? Positives for her Hostile part
• 1:21:15
  three. The main guy is played by
• 1:21:16
  Jennifer Love Hewitt's husband, and the villain is played by the
• 1:21:19
  guy who is Frank Dean in Marvel's Runaways.
• 1:21:21
  By the way. These are positives for the
• 1:21:23
  movie. I just wanted to get that off my
• 1:21:25
  chest. Why?
• 1:21:26
  Why? Why?
• 1:21:27
  Why is that about the the husband you married, Jennifer
• 1:21:29
  Ella Fewitt? Good for you bud.
• 1:21:31
  Yeah, yeah, I guess negatives for Hostile part three this and
• 1:21:35
  the guy put the year of every single thing he references in
• 1:21:38
  here. I once I realized that as I was
• 1:21:40
  reading this, I'm stopping doing that.
• 1:21:43
  This movie has the typical problems that come with any
• 1:21:46
  directive video movie. It has really terrible acting,
• 1:21:48
  cheap looking sets, horrible directing, an awful dialogue.
• 1:21:52
  The movie also commits this end of not giving the fans of the
• 1:21:54
  previous two hostile movies what they want.
• 1:21:56
  There's very little blood and gore and the violence is very
• 1:21:59
  tamed in this movie. Overall, Hostile part three is
• 1:22:01
  the worst installment of franchise, and there's no reason
• 1:22:04
  why the hostile franchise and there's no reason why the
• 1:22:07
  hostile franchise died after this movie.
• 1:22:10
  No, probably. No wonder.
• 1:22:11
  Yeah, or a reason why. Yeah, but thankfully there's an
• 1:22:17
  upcoming TV series being developed by Eli Roth and
• 1:22:19
  starred starred Paul Giamatti. Oh, starring Paul Giamatti.
• 1:22:25
  Yeah, so if you're a fan of Hostile, then there's something
• 1:22:28
  for you to look forward to in the future.
• 1:22:31
  I feel like this person watched this whole series and they hated
• 1:22:34
  it, but they're like, well, Paul Giamatti is going to be.
• 1:22:36
  Yeah, like he's just really, he's just a really big Paul
• 1:22:39
  Giamatti fan. He's like, I got to see what
• 1:22:41
  this all about. It's so funny.
• 1:22:42
  He's going to be like, oh man, I got to get all the war on
• 1:22:44
  hostile. Like, I mean, you can jump in on
• 1:22:47
  any one of them, man, you're. In a Wikipedia article, and then
• 1:22:49
  you're caught up. It's fine.
• 1:22:51
  You didn't. You're not premise, you're good.
• 1:22:53
  Yeah. So I mean, I guess there is
• 1:22:57
  definitely a direct to video feel to it.
• 1:23:00
  There is, yeah. But I still think that, you
• 1:23:02
  know, we do have a little bit of gore, definitely not as much as
• 1:23:05
  in the other movies. But also I feel like in the
• 1:23:07
  other movies you see the aftermath of the gore, then you
• 1:23:11
  see like the actual stuff happening.
• 1:23:13
  I feel like the gore in this movie, it didn't have any of
• 1:23:17
  those upsetting moments. Like in the first one you have
• 1:23:20
  the guy having his tin sliced, you have the Japanese girl with
• 1:23:25
  the blowtorch to the face. The second one you have fuck,
• 1:23:30
  what's her? Name Heather Matarazzi.
• 1:23:31
  Yeah, being hung up, yeah, which is gnarly.
• 1:23:34
  There's a couple of other ones than that one, too, where he,
• 1:23:37
  like, saw as the girl's face accidentally.
• 1:23:40
  Yeah, like, there's nothing like that in this movie.
• 1:23:43
  Like, it's very much straightforward when they do
• 1:23:45
  those scenes. And I don't know, I do feel like
• 1:23:48
  I agree that those scenes fall short in this.
• 1:23:51
  I hate to say this again in this episode, but I feel like that's
• 1:23:55
  a little bit of the Americanization of it.
• 1:23:58
  I mean, think about we're going to be talking about this movie
• 1:24:01
  later this month, but think about the European ending for
• 1:24:03
  The Descent versus what they put out for American audiences.
• 1:24:07
  I guess, yeah. But I just like, I like, I like
• 1:24:10
  the griminess of it before. And I liked how nasty the scenes
• 1:24:16
  were before because those are visceral moments that everybody
• 1:24:20
  cringes at whenever it happens in the previous ones.
• 1:24:23
  I don't think you get you get Justin getting a crossbow to the
• 1:24:26
  Dick. And that's probably the most
• 1:24:28
  outrageous thing that happens in this.
• 1:24:30
  I think for me it's a little bit because I see your point, like
• 1:24:35
  the things that people like in the first two are definitely not
• 1:24:38
  present in this one. But I think for me, the things
• 1:24:40
  that you know about the 1st 2 where it just feels very like
• 1:24:48
  we're going to focus on like seedier parts of Europe, you
• 1:24:52
  know what I mean? Like we're taking this big
• 1:24:55
  tourist destination in the United States and we're looking
• 1:24:57
  at all the glitz and glam of it. And we're going to show you the
• 1:24:59
  seedy underside to it. But we're not going to make it
• 1:25:01
  look too seedy because this is the whole fucking point of it.
• 1:25:04
  It's a tourist attraction. Yeah, I guess, yeah.
• 1:25:08
  Yeah, I think it it's the same but different.
• 1:25:10
  You know what I mean? It makes sense, but I am with
• 1:25:14
  most people and prefer the stylistic choice of the other
• 1:25:17
  two movies. I understand making that
• 1:25:20
  decision for this one, but it doesn't work as well in my
• 1:25:24
  opinion and some people's opinion apparently.
• 1:25:29
  It's kind of. I need more Paul Giamatti.
• 1:25:32
  My my stylist sent me this account.
• 1:25:34
  She was like, this girl has a very similar taste to you, just
• 1:25:37
  a different flavor. And I thought that was an
• 1:25:39
  interesting way of putting it. And I feel like this movie has
• 1:25:42
  the same taste as the Hostel movies, just a different flavor.
• 1:25:44
  Yes, yeah, you're right. Yeah, This is like a different
• 1:25:47
  flavor. It's like when they put like
• 1:25:48
  they make it diet lemon. That's what this is right here.
• 1:25:53
  It's it's the Lacroix of the Hostel movies.
• 1:25:58
  You tag one. OK, well, let's go to our
• 1:26:06
  listener. Reviews Our listener reviews.
• 1:26:08
  All right, so we have two, one on each platform.
• 1:26:12
  We'll go with Instagram first. It's Cube saves.
• 1:26:15
  Who says? This movie makes me think Scott
• 1:26:17
  Spiegel is a bad director and Sam Raimi made The Intruder.
• 1:26:22
  Whoa, I've not seen. I've not seen Intruder.
• 1:26:25
  I really want to watch that movie though.
• 1:26:26
  I know that it has the Raimis involved in it so that's cool.
• 1:26:31
  I know a lot of people like it too, and hearing his attachment
• 1:26:34
  to Evil Dead 2 is really surprising also.
• 1:26:37
  So yeah, maybe like, I don't know, like.
• 1:26:40
  He was a writer for that one. It wasn't then he was a
• 1:26:43
  director. Yeah, right.
• 1:26:44
  Yeah, Like maybe, you know, he might be on to something here
• 1:26:48
  that like the magic that's been Sam or Amy all along and Scott
• 1:26:51
  Spiel just kind of been tagging. OK, I see what you're saying
• 1:26:54
  now. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:26:57
  I don't think the directing was that bad.
• 1:26:59
  No, directing wasn't that bad, I think.
• 1:27:00
  Yeah, like, I, I don't know. I just, we've already talked
• 1:27:05
  about it, like, what worked and what didn't work.
• 1:27:07
  All right. And the final one on Twitter is
• 1:27:10
  award zombie. OK, he says.
• 1:27:12
  I barely remember this one. The first two were not great but
• 1:27:15
  better movies. The change to the location and
• 1:27:17
  how the secret club works just did not feel as scary as it was
• 1:27:21
  in the first two. See, that was exactly what I was
• 1:27:23
  saying right there. Yeah.
• 1:27:26
  And yeah, like I, I completely agree and Jesse doesn't.
• 1:27:29
  But you know, like that's, you know, that's our show, you know,
• 1:27:32
  like it's for some people, it's not for some people.
• 1:27:36
  Different flavors for different people.
• 1:27:39
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that works.
• 1:27:41
  That works. Yeah, but I did come around on
• 1:27:44
  it. Yay.
• 1:27:45
  I'm very glad that you at least came around on it so it doesn't
• 1:27:48
  have to be a running joke in the house about hey, let's watch
• 1:27:50
  Hostile part three. So.
• 1:27:52
  That's true. OK, cool.
• 1:27:54
  So that wraps it up for this one.
• 1:27:56
  So. Oh, I forgot to announce this at
• 1:27:59
  the beginning because we're doing it early in the month, but
• 1:28:01
  to be or not to be is going to be this weekend.
• 1:28:03
  That's right, it's on Sunday. We had to plan strategically for
• 1:28:08
  the for the month of August, so that'll be on Sunday.
• 1:28:11
  It's Travis's pick. This is a very Travis heavy
• 1:28:13
  month, but it's OK, we're going to.
• 1:28:15
  Have fun. Yeah, and next month is what you
• 1:28:18
  guys are patrons voted for. Next week.
• 1:28:20
  OK, next next week is why you guys voted for.
• 1:28:23
  Chris's theme was ex wrestler horror movies.
• 1:28:27
  Yeah, it's yeah. Like the Battle of the wrestlers
• 1:28:30
  in horror. We had it go between They Live
• 1:28:34
  and see No Evil. So you got Roddy Piper and Kane
• 1:28:38
  and Roddy Piper won. So we are getting They Live.
• 1:28:42
  Let me pull up. You can currently watch that on
• 1:28:46
  YouTube TV premium or you can rent it from prime YouTube,
• 1:28:49
  Google Player, Fandango at home. So.
• 1:28:52
  Yeah, unfortunately it's only streaming on Stars on Apple TV
• 1:28:57
  apparently. Or YouTube TV Premium.
• 1:28:59
  Yeah, probably the same thing through stars, Yeah.
• 1:29:02
  So there you go. There we go.
• 1:29:04
  Yeah. It's a great movie.
• 1:29:05
  It's yeah, it's definitely I I hadn't watched it until last
• 1:29:11
  year, the year before. Is that your first?
• 1:29:13
  Time, yeah. Really.
• 1:29:14
  Yeah. Wow.
• 1:29:14
  And I thoroughly enjoyed it. I love Roddy.
• 1:29:18
  Roddy Piper. Roddy Piper.
• 1:29:20
  So I love him. The guy's so fucking likable.
• 1:29:24
  Yeah, he's my God. I can't wait to talk about that
• 1:29:26
  maniac. Yeah, he's the maniac man.
• 1:29:30
  Fuck yeah. I can't wait.
• 1:29:32
  So get prepared, watch that one, and we're going to have a good
• 1:29:35
  time. And then check out our 2B or
• 1:29:37
  Nuts B that comes up this weekend.
• 1:29:38
  I don't know what that's going to be yet.
• 1:29:39
  Yep, we'll see. What Travis?
• 1:29:41
  Picks for Yeah, we'll see. All right, all.
• 1:29:43
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• 1:29:47
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• 1:29:59
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• 1:30:03
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• 1:30:08
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• 1:30:13
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• 1:30:17
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• 1:30:24
  letting people, people know if there's a movie out there that
• 1:30:27
  we're talking about that, you know, somebody likes.
• 1:30:28
  And I love hearing people say that they're revisiting
• 1:30:32
  something or watching it for the first time for yeah, that makes
• 1:30:35
  me really excited A, that you're so excited to listen to us talk
• 1:30:39
  about it, that you want to watch the movie.
• 1:30:40
  But V because genuinely, at least one of us loves these
• 1:30:43
  movies. So it's always really exciting.
• 1:30:46
  And I know that happened last week with Pieces.
• 1:30:48
  Yeah, I'm surprised with the reception on pieces, honestly.
• 1:30:53
  I didn't know that many people like we're into it.
• 1:30:55
  Y'all, we were working on our fucking puzzle while we were
• 1:30:58
  watching Joe Bob last night and progress We put together like 15
• 1:31:01
  pieces we did. Really.
• 1:31:03
  It felt really good, yeah. Had a good day, feeling good
• 1:31:05
  enough to go at it again tonight.
• 1:31:07
  Maybe. Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna we're
• 1:31:08
  gonna go again while we watch some Fast and Furious, because
• 1:31:10
  it is I I know this is confusing because Pieces was Travis's
• 1:31:14
  birthday episode, but because of the schedule where we record,
• 1:31:17
  it's actually his birthday weekend right now.
• 1:31:19
  So we're doing a Fast and Furious.
• 1:31:21
  Thing. Yeah.
• 1:31:23
  And so we're gonna watch some Paul walk, and we're going to
• 1:31:26
  put together some puzzle pieces. Yeah.
• 1:31:28
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• 1:31:48
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• 1:31:51
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  all. Right, bye.
• 1:31:55
  Bye. Laughed too hard at our own
• 1:32:14
  timeline. That's OK.
• 1:32:16
  We're funny.