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- 0:05All system's going clear the lift up. What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberlin here
- 0:38aka TOTEG and Tambo back for another edition of the Monday Night Football Showdown Show
- 0:44here on the Mail Media Network. We've got the Shipping Nation YouTube station collaboration
- 0:48as always, got Hoopster title here with We're gonna break it all down for
- 0:52you guys. We'll go through our game scripts, captains, ownership, roster
- 0:56construction, anything with the punt plays, defensive kickers, you name it will
- 0:59break all that down and more. We got some wild stuff going on with
- 1:03the quarterbacks on both sides, so we'll bring up some if then scenarios.
- 1:06We'll break it all down for you guys throughout the show. You're just joining
- 1:08us for the first time. Want to remind everyone very quickly. The show
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- 1:15over to run the sims dot com and use promo code ship It gets you
- 1:18tim percent off. We will have our SIMS segment later on at the end
- 1:22where you guys will be able to guess the pick your scores and guess what
- 1:26you think is going to happen. Then we'll plug it in over run the
- 1:27sims and see what that says as far as the simulations go. But Hooster,
- 1:30gonna start with you man, coming off a live final yesterday over on
- 1:34the FanDuel side of things, I know you in it, out of it,
- 1:38had some chances. But how is your day yesterday? What's going on?
- 1:41My friend? How you doing? Yeah? Was live to win it
- 1:44kind of at the end. I got up to I think sixth place in
- 1:48that FanDuel Live final in the second half of those four pm Eastern games with
- 1:53the most PMR left, So I mean definitely had a chance to move up
- 1:57a little bit. That didn't end up happening. I needed, you know,
- 2:01Cooper Cup and Matthew Stafford to keep going. They really didn't have a
- 2:06chance to push it a little bit. If the Washington scores a little bit
- 2:09sooner in that game, maybe we get some more back and forth. But
- 2:13then the McLaurin stuff and the James Cook stuff at the end kind of took
- 2:16me down. Finished thirteenth out of eightieth. Not the worst showing, and
- 2:21kind of I played that team in all the high stake stuff as well,
- 2:23So I had a good day yesterday Over on on fan Duel and I know
- 2:28our guy K Craps was winning it for a while and kind of he ran
- 2:30really really bad at the end to drop down to like fifth or six.
- 2:35But solid day, keep grinding and man, it's been a hell of a
- 2:38day here on Monday. I need the rest of this week to chill.
- 2:40It's been today's Today's been a day boys, already hectic day for you.
- 2:46Titles back, everyone says title without the back. I mean, I don't
- 2:49know if you probably didn't get to watch the show. The take was titled
- 2:53just getting out of Jail after being involved in the MMA scuffle on Saturday evening,
- 2:58like just they had all kinds of thoughts of where title was yesterday?
- 3:00Title? What's going on? Man? How you doing? Yeah? I
- 3:02was not in the MMA scuffle. I was not in between the strict daddy
- 3:07and drinkist. But yeah, I was watching some fights. Yeah, I'm
- 3:09excited to talk some football. It is a very interesting slate because you get
- 3:14the Gno News long shot to play. Assume it's Drew Lock. Then you
- 3:17go Jalen Hurts is traveling by himself on his own plane dealing with an illness,
- 3:23and you look at the line and it's only three and a half,
- 3:24so man, it could be gross. We could get some Mariota Drew Lock
- 3:29who knows about hurt That is obviously gonna change the slate s Amiffen scenarios.
- 3:32But yeah, you got close. Congrats to you who K craps Ham was
- 3:37at the Fan Dueli final, g Risen was at the DK A lot of
- 3:39people represent It's always tough in those streets though, but ye, grats to
- 3:44you boys, and yeah, hopefully make some money today. Yeah, and
- 3:46even when it goes that way, sometimes it's tough. Like I know,
- 3:47our guy Chris Neville's very generous to the community. Nevs twenty nine to four
- 3:53nine two four hours mixed with the numbers, but he's like, we're congratulating
- 3:57and became six in the DK Live final day for three under grand But then
- 4:00he I went and looked at the lineups and he said it in our discord.
- 4:02He's over there. He says, yeah, actually it's awesome, but
- 4:05it feels weird at the same time because he lost like three hundred k on
- 4:09one of the final plays of the game, like one of the final swings
- 4:12of the slate cost him three hundred thousand, So it's just tough. It's
- 4:15the way it goes. But you know, laser guy here says, if
- 4:17who can do a show under the weather yesterday, Hurts can play through it.
- 4:20So who did you have thoughts on that stuff? We got we got
- 4:25some quarterback stuff to talk about. But Hurts supposedly the one that may battle
- 4:28through it. It seems like Gino is a long shot at least by rapping
- 4:30for his message this morning and talking through it with him. So he said
- 4:34on his channel there, he said that it would be a long shot for
- 4:38Gino Smith to play. By the looks of it, Yeah, it looks
- 4:40like it's going to be Drew lockwyuh. I mean if I can operate under
- 4:43the weather. Still got a little bit of it going on, and like
- 4:45I said, today is added on like today it's like more more crap.
- 4:47So I'll just give people a quick personal glimpse of what's been going on.
- 4:51Hit the gym in the morning. I always do that my guy title.
- 4:55He's an avid gym guy, like know the importance of health. Hit the
- 4:59gym, bent on a nice routine, went and shipped everything out, got
- 5:02all the gear shipped out. The Marino jersey is no longer in my basement,
- 5:05so like I could not be responsible for anything that happens with the Sibon
- 5:09Marino Jersey. Get in my brand. I bought a brand new car like
- 5:13two months ago. All right, get in the vehicle, okay, And
- 5:15it has six hundred miles on it. It is somehow gushing water from the
- 5:19roof, like I have no idea, Like there's a little buckle in the
- 5:23way back. It is dripping through the roof into my vehicle. So now
- 5:29I got to call the dealership, Tam. But I know you have experience
- 5:30in this area, So call the dealership. Got to get this taken care
- 5:34of. Got to get the haircut. Get the haircut today. My guy's
- 5:36running late, so I'm rushing home to shower to get on the show.
- 5:40Spent a day, but again, we're gonna find these winners. We're gonna
- 5:43get to the winter circle. But the car thing really pissed me off.
- 5:45Like water gushing through the roof of a brand new vehicle. Nuts. Man.
- 5:49Oh yeah, I got a question. What tilted you more of that?
- 5:53Or the second that you got the old vehicle hit that you were about
- 5:55to turn in that split second right there. At first, it's been cursed.
- 6:00Yeah, so this this has been an ongoing story with like this vehicle.
- 6:04So I traded it in, but I signed all the papers on Friday,
- 6:09had the old vehicle until Monday. Someone hit it in a freaking parking
- 6:12lot the day I signed the paper. It's just it's been a This tells
- 6:15me more though, because there's no excuses for this. It's a nice,
- 6:19expensive vehicle, like to have the roof gushing water six hundred miles in Like,
- 6:26man, that tells me way way more fair enough. I would do
- 6:30tough scene, but like Renegade says, way to fight through it. We
- 6:32heard that. Yeah, big big third b big big problems obviously right.
- 6:36Also, I was doing some thinking. You said we got to get to
- 6:39the winner circle. That's kind of old terminology. Other people like to use
- 6:44that one. What about the you know, there's the winner circle, but
- 6:46there's the shipper square. If you can get to shipper square, you're really
- 6:49doing something right, you know what I mean? Like that? Okay,
- 6:51okay, you know you gotta be shipping over winning and running, and you
- 6:56also got to get to the square and not the circle. I kind of
- 6:59like that one. So I like Andrews comment too, though I like the
- 7:01lambo, but I got I got two kids and I'm running around to various
- 7:04activities every night. It's not not a lambo. And Jason knows what I
- 7:10say. I said, I called a too. You guys all call it
- 7:12a beating. But it's okay, he said, it just one of them.
- 7:16Tambo said he didn't like the incline here at the front, but I
- 7:20got I'm in the colic. I got a really crazy colic here. It
- 7:24goes like straight up, so there's like nothing you can kind of do it.
- 7:26So Hoop said, it's straight, but it leans a little to the
- 7:29left. Baby, Just let with it all, right, less small talk,
- 7:32more slate talk. We'll get into it. It was good breaking it
- 7:35all down. Happy to have everything out there for you guys. Thank you
- 7:38guys all by the way for everything yesterday. Just all the support throughout the
- 7:42show. The discord was awesome, lots of big winners. I know it's
- 7:45the holiday season so everyone's in and out of different things, partying and families
- 7:48and all that stuff. So thanks for sticking with us there. Quick turnaround
- 7:53on the weekend with the three Gamer going to the main slate and back this
- 7:56weekend'll be much of the same. We've got the two gamer on Saturday,
- 8:00We've got the main slate on Sunday, and then we've got a three gamer
- 8:03on Monday for Christmas Day. So there's gonna be a lot of good content
- 8:07going up there over on the site. And Mike knows right well, this
- 8:09is another part of the story. So I did try to order the new
- 8:13Escalade. Wanted the Blackout Escalade. I put in the order two years ago
- 8:18for this thing, right and it was a year and a half in and
- 8:20still never got it. Like the Blackout Escalades are literally impossible to get.
- 8:26I realized and didn't wait. I was like, just give me my money
- 8:30back, and I got a Tahoe instead, and I love it. My
- 8:33boy got the party cut. He said, rock the MVP over there,
- 8:37MVP favorite baby. I'll take it short. Shriveled always said that we got
- 8:41to get this show moving on. Yeah too, go back to title.
- 8:46Title is real professional, Let's stick with title on this one. Title.
- 8:48Talk to me about this game. We did chat a little bit offline before
- 8:52we hopped on. I mean, the last thing I'm personally looking to see
- 8:54is Locke versus Mariota. Really hopeful that Hurts does battle through and get to
- 8:58the We will do some if and stuff later on, but assuming right now
- 9:03that Hurts is gonna battle through, like we would expect that it is lock
- 9:07based on the other by the way, if you throw like anything we say
- 9:09you can put. I know they're not the same, and I wouldn't compare
- 9:11this, but at least price wise, talking DraftKings, which we're doing here
- 9:15on this slate, you can put in Geno Smith and just turn it into
- 9:18lock or leave a couple hundred bucks and be able to get up to him
- 9:22or whatever it might be. But talk to us a little bit about this
- 9:24game man, Like you said that you were talking about the spread still staying
- 9:26there pretty close. We'll see what happens there, but how it actually could
- 9:28shake out. What's your thoughts on this game coming in man? Yeah,
- 9:33it's definitely tough, and the Jalen Hurts feels like he's a real real Q
- 9:37tag, like I mean an illness and if he flew by himself, it
- 9:39got worse they say yesterday or something like that, so that's why he is
- 9:43flying by himself. I want to get people sick now they see Drew Locke
- 9:46is playing instead of Geno, and the line at three and a half,
- 9:48Like, if you tell me it's Jalen Hurts against Drew Lock, it feels
- 9:52like they would be favored more than three and a half. I don't know.
- 9:56I mean it's gonna change a lot. Obviously, we get in actives
- 9:58an hour and a half before we'll be the discord and all of that,
- 10:01hopefully coach speak. If Jalen Hurts is in, I think that's how I'm
- 10:03gonna talk about it. For the most part, you'd think it's like,
- 10:07oh, five to one Eagles, four to two Eagles, like all of
- 10:09that. Seahawks are pretty mispriced compared to a lot of these Eagles, So
- 10:13I think even if it is Drew Locke versus Hurts, I still think three
- 10:18threes will be popular. Four two's on both sides, like any five ones
- 10:22will be contrarion. But I don't think if you go right away we take
- 10:26Rosser Construction plugging four Seahawks plugging two Philly and you're different. I don't necessarily
- 10:31think that's the case today because everyone's gonna want to play Jalen Hurts. I
- 10:35mean, you look at his projection. I got him in the mid twenties
- 10:39or twenty one, mid twenty ones. The next highest guy I got him
- 10:41like sixteen, So I think he's gonna be far and away the highest owned
- 10:45captain on the slate. Anything outside of him, I wouldn't say it's contrarian,
- 10:50but it's a lot easier to be different, and you know you're gonna
- 10:52start different. You don't have to get as crazy if you play anyone else
- 10:56besides hurts at the captain. That's how I'm seeing it so far. Again,
- 11:01when we get into these games or both sides like Eagles are Swiss Cheese
- 11:05on defense, secondary is awful. Drew Locke started last week. He actually
- 11:09played well. They did throw the ball a lot. Great matchup for DK
- 11:13this locket, there's JSN, so I think I'm gonna be targeting the Seahawks
- 11:16the unknowns if it is Hurts. If it is the Seahawks, I do
- 11:20like that side. I do like the pass catchers Kenneth Walker and Sharboney.
- 11:24The split's coming a little closer. Kenneth Walker early down, Sharbonay late downs.
- 11:28Kind of the same as the other side with the Eagles Swift the number
- 11:31one game will still mixing in I'm gonna be turding mainly these pass catchers because
- 11:35I know they're gonna be on the field a ton running backs are splitting.
- 11:37I'll have a ton of Hurts. I assume whop if he does play,
- 11:41maybe a lock button you'll play MC captain flex and one hundred percent of lineups.
- 11:46I might do that myself as well. Can always leave salary and stuff
- 11:48like that. But again, I'm assuming Hurts is playing for now the spread
- 11:52though, I think it's a true true game time decision. If it's Mariota,
- 11:56if he's only six kme he plays, I mean, he's gonna be
- 12:00mega mega chalk and rightfully so he has the legs, and then you can
- 12:03get crazy stuff like MARIODA captain no pass catchers with them with running backs if
- 12:09you want to go unique roster construction like that, since we do know he
- 12:11uses his legs, but the jail and Hurts situations everything, Yeah, there's
- 12:16a lot you can do with them if he does go. I just want
- 12:16to note that because obviously they priced Lock around Gino Smith, assuming this could
- 12:22go either way, they did not price Mariota anywhere near Hurts because this came
- 12:26up later in the week way after type thing. So just not something that
- 12:30they expected fully. So we saw that and we're going to see how that
- 12:33plays out. And then Jason says this, Yeah, this has started last
- 12:35year. Actually I forgot all about it till this year. But last year
- 12:37I think was the first year NFL tried to battle NBA on the Christmas Day.
- 12:41They want all the control. Man, it's all these billionaire owners.
- 12:45They want to show that they still run the sports business, so they'll show
- 12:48up whenever they feel like showing up. I saw somebody have to take this
- 12:50week that there should be no sports on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day because the
- 12:56players should get to be with their families and stuff. But you can't control
- 12:58like football, Well, Sunday is football Sunday. That's Christmas Eve. It
- 13:01ain't Christmas yet. You ain't waiting up for Santa Sorry kids. And I
- 13:05don't know, maybe kids are watching the show with their parents in hands.
- 13:09Go ahead. I think part of the reason NFL came to the table for
- 13:13Christmas Day is the decline in TV ratings in the NBA games. Like NBA
- 13:18Christmas Day used to be like the biggest thing. NBA is kind of losing
- 13:22popularity here in the US, and NFL's like, okay, we'll just step
- 13:24in and pick up what you left behind and take you know, a huge
- 13:28percentage of your viewership on the day. So if anything, I want to
- 13:33be surprised if NBA just maybe backs down at some point. Yeah, as
- 13:37you know, everyone being used to the holidays and watching football on the holidays,
- 13:41like you said, like American Thanksgiving, which I call that being Canadian.
- 13:45But I even love it up here, like I said, I'm sitting
- 13:46there watching it all day, and that's the thing. And I have friends
- 13:50and family that work regular full time jobs that call in sick for that day
- 13:54to hang out and watch football and celebrate with friends and do like a friends
- 13:56giving or something like that. But just to bring it up, I mean,
- 13:58that's the other angle is people are used to it by now of the
- 14:01holidays and just tuning into it. So either way we'll take it. It's
- 14:05gonna be a fun weekend of sports, family, food, drinks, fun,
- 14:07whatever it might be, friends, all that stuff. So who give
- 14:11us your take on it? Man? Like the if this then that type
- 14:13thing we got hurts gino seems more unlikely. But like title said, hurts
- 14:18our true Q tag here. Yeah, it seems truly up in there whether
- 14:22or not you know he plays. I mean, yeah, if it's Hurts
- 14:26versus Drew Locke, I'd assume the spread would be five and a half,
- 14:28six somewhere in that range, not three and a half, essentially within a
- 14:31field goal. So I think there's real chance that he does not play.
- 14:35And then the Mariotta stuff is very interesting because you know, not only is
- 14:41he a strong play, he's a candidate to be the leading scorer on the
- 14:43slate at six K and you can do a lot with him if you put
- 14:48him in the captain. If Hurts does play, you know, highest upside
- 14:50on the slate, you know, by not a wide margin, but if
- 14:54you look at any projection site, he's five to six points higher than anyone
- 14:58else, which is a pretty stancial number. AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith,
- 15:03Dallas Goddard. I think all captain viable plays if Hurts is in. I
- 15:09think this is a slate where I actually I will probably mix it up quite
- 15:11a bit at the captain spot if Hurts is in, different than what I've
- 15:16done in the past, because I just think there's a lot of different guys
- 15:18that can potentially get there, and I wouldn't exclude the Seattle side either.
- 15:20I mean, Drew lock you know, how much of a downgrade is he
- 15:24from from Gino in terms of this offense. I don't think it's a big
- 15:30downgrade, to be honest with you, Drew Locke will we'll sling it out
- 15:33there. He has no problem taking chances. You got DK Metcalf, Tyler
- 15:37Lockett, and you have Smith and Jigma who has been kind of rising and
- 15:41getting a lot of targets as well. So he has a lot of viable
- 15:43options. So I think this could be a slate where I end up,
- 15:48you know, spreading it out a little bit more at the captain spot.
- 15:52But I mean the slate is one hundred percent contingent on the Jalen Hurts news.
- 15:56You know, if he was going to play, for sure, I
- 15:58think we would have heard it at this point. I mean, the news
- 16:00in the NFL has been out there early all season long, especially on these
- 16:04big name guys. The fact that we haven't heard anything yet leads me to
- 16:07believe there's a real chance that he does miss this game. And then the
- 16:11Marcus Mariota stuff would be very very interesting. The slate. I think it's
- 16:15more interesting if Hurts does not play. Yeah, when we get to the
- 16:19chat, we'll have to see what happened. So again, last week the
- 16:22chat was dead on on the over. They had chargers and over and the
- 16:26chargers got absolutely destroyed. So that streak. Now it's either five or six
- 16:32slates now in a row. The chat has never yet won the side properly
- 16:36yet, so I'm very interested to hear go in the chat right now,
- 16:40let us know how this game goes down. What team you got and use
- 16:45the three point spread? Who covers in this game? Who do you got?
- 16:48And then what's the spread? The chat is zero for five or oh
- 16:49for six on the side, so we got to keep this game going until
- 16:53they break the streak, so we'll see what the majority is. Majority rules
- 16:57title my thoughts of this, and then I'll kick you for actually more in
- 17:00depth captain thoughts. But like you said, if we do get Mariota,
- 17:03the spread thing is interesting. Obviously you would expect it to be a little
- 17:07bit more. We have we have those scene all the time. There's been
- 17:10many times where we get this spread. Everyone's like, oh, you better
- 17:12hit it now because Hurts is gonna be in later tonight and the number will
- 17:15jump and people do it and they get so excited that they had it.
- 17:18The number Hurts is announced in, the number goes to five and a half
- 17:22and everyone's like boom, I beat the number. And then somehow the game
- 17:25ends up closer the other way anyway, and they didn't actually get anything out
- 17:27of it. But it is interesting at least to see it that way for
- 17:30right now. Talk to me a little bit though, because if he is
- 17:34out and then you've got Mariota at six K and you know, put him
- 17:38up in the in the top for nine K, it's like the Seattle guys
- 17:42are still really low priced and you can still fit them in. So I
- 17:45would then see a lot more three threes or four twos to both sides.
- 17:49I don't see as many people that are gonna want to slam in five eagles
- 17:52or five Seattle guys or something like that, So take us more in depth.
- 17:56That's just my original thoughts. So based on if we see he Hurts
- 18:00be announced out, then I think you can get away with some more blowout
- 18:06type builds and just go with it from there. Yeah, I think if
- 18:08Mariota is so at six k man, he would be mega, mega popular.
- 18:11I think captain and the flex he has the rushing upside, you can
- 18:15get whatever you want. And then I think three threes would probably be by
- 18:18far the most popular build. I think if Hurts plays, maybe it is
- 18:22still even three three. I don't know. I don't love I think five
- 18:26ones, like you said, if Mariota against Drew Locke, I think I
- 18:29like the five ones a lot more than I do with with Hurts in,
- 18:33just because I'll be playing Hurts in so many teams. The salary is already
- 18:36up there. I doubt I get to too many five ones there, And
- 18:38like Hurst by himself is the only one with Seattle that sounds really gross.
- 18:44Eagles are a lot more expensive than these Seahawks looking at value wise, So
- 18:48I just don't think I get to five ones. It'd be a lot easier
- 18:51with Mariota. My terms of captain, are we gonna you want to talk?
- 18:56Are we talking like if Hurts is in, if Hurts us out?
- 18:57Because to be honest, right now, I'm planning it Hurts is in.
- 19:00That's where everything in the industry hasn't projected. I mean until I hear otherwise.
- 19:06That's how I'm gonna approach it, and because like Hoop said, he's
- 19:10gonna have he Hoop pass his approach already set. So maybe like think from
- 19:11your angle. But Hoop said, it hurts Is in, he's gonna have
- 19:15it more spread out at captain, it hurts Is out, it's clear where
- 19:18he's gonna go, and then there's gonna be maybe a couple other spots or
- 19:21something. But you could talk with Hurts in if you want, and roll
- 19:23it out from there and just assume that he's in. Well, I know
- 19:26it hurts Is out. I know I will leave a ton of money on
- 19:27the table in tournaments like salary means nothing. That's how I'll get different.
- 19:32I don't care as much about roster construction this that leave salary for you said
- 19:37last time the Chargers game Tamba, you said something. The chat was like
- 19:40can you leave three thousand? You said your highest team that you left was
- 19:42like seventy five hundred bucks or something. You could. I'm not I don't
- 19:45know for sure if I'll get that far, but maybe it's very possible.
- 19:48On a slate like this, if he's out, I can't leave that much
- 19:52salary. So I'm gonna talk that way, because that's really all I care
- 19:55about, or that's the way I'll get different. Just leave Salary. If
- 19:57he's in it hurts, it hurts his in Captain's really tough for me.
- 20:03I'll definitely be playing Hurts that captain. He's gonna be probably what twenty five
- 20:06percent something like that. I like him much more. AJ Brown and him,
- 20:10I think will be probably the only ones above ten percent. Maybe Devonte
- 20:15smith sneaks in there a bit, but I think Hurts and AJ Brown combined
- 20:18for forty plus forty five percent of the captain ownership. I prefer the hurtside,
- 20:22I think. But then, the more to talk about it, when
- 20:25Hurts gets there, it's the rushing upside. The tush push is still there.
- 20:29But if he's truly sick in this illness, is he going to use
- 20:32his legs as much? Are they going to try and rely on DeAndre Swift
- 20:34and win more of a boring game? Ah? The more I'm thinking about
- 20:38it, I love DK's matchup. I love picking on this eagle secondary Lockett's
- 20:41prices. He's way too cheap, so I think Lockett will be more popular
- 20:45than DK. Give me the DK upside. I don't know if he's pissed
- 20:51about the Fred Warner ejection, if he's heeded all that stuff, who knows.
- 20:53I love DK in this spot though, even or with Drew Locke.
- 20:56We're all expecting Drew Locke to play very doubtful. Sure, yeah, that
- 21:02side we're locked in on. If that changes discord and all that. The
- 21:04other side is up in the air, but they still slung the ball.
- 21:07With Drew Locke, DK would be one of my favorite captains. I like
- 21:11Devonte Smith because I think he'll be a lot lower owned than DK. I
- 21:17like the charbon A side as well. If Hurts plays three and a half
- 21:19point favorites, maybe that goes up a little bit in trailing scripts and third
- 21:23downs, two minute drills. He is the pass catching back, so I
- 21:27think I prefer sharbon A. If Hurts is in, it Hurts is out,
- 21:30then maybe I like the Kenneth Walker side more because they can play from
- 21:33the lead if you expect the game script to go that way. Take the
- 21:37air out of the football. So that's a big thing. What quarterback on
- 21:41the Eagles is going to dictate who I like more for running back on this
- 21:45On the Seahawks side, Goddard, who mentioned that I love Dallas godd he
- 21:49came back stepped into his full time role. I mean, just a solid
- 21:53price, Dagg You probug him in that Captain. You plug Hurts in in
- 21:56the flex, you can still leave two three four thousand dollars when you plug
- 22:00in Hurts and aj Brown. It's really hard to get different outside of that.
- 22:04I don't love these cheap punts, like we'll get to the Parkinson's,
- 22:07the Disley's, like there's some two hundred dollars kind of popping in the flex.
- 22:11I don't think we need to go down here. I'm not going to
- 22:14kickers. I'm not going to defense and the captains. I'd rather take the
- 22:17shots on JSN DK Lockett the other side, DeVante Smith, Hurts, Goddard.
- 22:22I think Swiss fine as well. But I'm really mainly focusing on the
- 22:26skill position. Players like the receivers more than I like the running backs.
- 22:30What to do with Hurts at captain is really struggling a little bit. I
- 22:33think Lock at captain. I like Lock a little bit at captain as well,
- 22:37because I like these pass catchers. You can plug him two pass catchers,
- 22:40three pass catchers with them, and if he spreads the ball around,
- 22:42each guy gets a touchdown. I could definitely see Drew Lock being an optimal
- 22:48quarterback as well. People don't like playing quarterbacks at captain unless your name is
- 22:52Jalen Hurst, Josh Allen, etc. So yeah, moral are wrapping it
- 22:56all up. Love DK. I like Lock, like Drew, I like
- 23:00Lock it a little bit other side. I like Goddard a lot. Jalen
- 23:03hurts. You guys are gonna have to help me out a little bit because
- 23:04the touch push, like the pass interference in the one. I don't care
- 23:07how sick he is. If he's on the field, they're gonna touch push
- 23:11from the one and he's gonna get there, which is a big part of
- 23:14his upside and why he can just break the sleigh that captain. So you
- 23:15guys got to help me out about that. If he plays, do you
- 23:18think he'll be limited, like he'll limit himself to rush or trying not do
- 23:22that as much. I don't know. If I think he's doing everything,
- 23:26I'll say that right now. Yeah, if he plays, he's doing everything.
- 23:30If he plays, it's fake and he's doing everything. He's coming in
- 23:33not fake. But you get what I'm saying he's not he's not making the
- 23:36sick I'm saying, but he's coming in like he was, like a flu
- 23:38game style type thing and then coming in and balling out like he's just whether
- 23:41it happens or not, I'm not saying it's gonna be like a Michael Jordan
- 23:45flu game. I'm more so saying he's gonna come in and play properly.
- 23:48I don't know how it's gonna work out. You could blame it on his
- 23:51sickness. If it's bad, you could call it an m j type flu
- 23:52game. If it's good, that's narrative stuff. But I don't think he's
- 23:56gonna try and like struggle through this. I think he either doesn't play and
- 23:59the and everything goes with that right now and we see how that plays out,
- 24:02or he does play and it's just normal hurts. He's doing the tushbush,
- 24:06he's doing normal stuff and whatever happens happens from there and we play the
- 24:08game with him in it. So we'll have to wait and see on that.
- 24:11But some of the points that you brought up too, like the chat
- 24:14is so high on this guy Drew Locke, like he's a slinger and he's
- 24:17slung it around someone as they almost broke through fifty. He didn't even break
- 24:19two seventy and I think like eighty yards of it was on one play,
- 24:22So he's still through two. I and T's like, I'll tell you what,
- 24:26whether hurts plays or not, I'm gonna be pretty high on this Philly
- 24:30side and hopefully this people think the line is one way or the other.
- 24:33A lot of the chat seems to still like it started out Eagles, but
- 24:37then it went heavy. Seattle, Seattle, Seattle, Seattle, Yeah,
- 24:41Seattle, Like I don't understand that at all. I know they're in Seattle.
- 24:45It's harder. Philly is a good team. I don't care they get
- 24:48thrown all over. That's part of their down, that's part of their leak
- 24:51in their system that they have they're probably trying to work on. But I
- 24:53still think Mariota's gonna be just fine. I'm not cheering for him or playing
- 24:56if it is him in there. I just think Philly is gonna be able
- 25:00to come through early on. That's my take on this. So what's your
- 25:03take? It hurts at season captain spot what about him? Because he's gonna
- 25:06be by far and away yeah, I always fit again, I get crushed
- 25:10on some of these slates because of that, but I'm always like last night,
- 25:12I was way under on Lamar, he still ended up getting there.
- 25:15I think it was like the first time we've seen him get there in like
- 25:18seven or eight slates. He oh, but look at the ownership he gets
- 25:21like twenty five percent in the Captain Like, it's just to me, it's
- 25:23overinflated, and it's only took one other play like other guys went out.
- 25:27Likely was one catch away from it. There was other weird ways to get
- 25:32there. And then also you needed the two hundred dollars punt in Agnew to
- 25:36crush to then help vault that up in there, Like you need a lot
- 25:38of things to go your way, So always pushback or go against that anyway
- 25:42hurts with the tush push makes it that much harder because of that. So
- 25:45maybe I'll like think like that title and cheer for what you said. Hopefully
- 25:49that even though I said the opposite, I think the opposite. I don't
- 25:52think he's gonna be limited at all. I think they're gonna be jamming his
- 25:55ass into the end zone no matter what. But I will say I'm very
- 25:57likely in advance to have less hurts at the top. If he even plays
- 26:02Mariota would be a different story because that's where people confuse that, Like,
- 26:06isn't a quarterback in the same spot. No, we play a salary game.
- 26:10It's price dependent. When he's nine k up top, it probably leads
- 26:12to more chops, to be honest, unless leaving a bunch of money like
- 26:15you just said. But in general, I think there is other ways to
- 26:18go about it, and Jason just mentioned one that I like, but I'm
- 26:21gonna kick it to Whop first. I like Swift. I mean, the
- 26:25Seattle matchup is good everywhere, right, it's the Philly side where you're worring.
- 26:27I know people mentioned Kenneth Walker and Sharponay and things like that. They
- 26:32make sense in the flex if they get up there, or if DK or
- 26:34Tyler Lockett gets some passer interference involved where they get away with one and the
- 26:40flag gets thrown, you could see those running backs fall in the box.
- 26:41I just have more interest in them in the flex. But Swift up top,
- 26:45it actually is already a good matchup. We've seen guy, remember like
- 26:49last two weeks. No way James Cook can do anything. They got Latavius
- 26:53Murray scoring touchdowns, they got Allen and then what happens. James Cook just
- 26:57crushes two weeks in a row. You could definitely see them. You swift
- 27:00more in this game early on, and it just leads to different stuff,
- 27:03which then he gets paid off and rewarded. I like him as a as
- 27:07a captain up there tonight, who what's your thoughts up with the captain position?
- 27:10You can use your ift then scenarios as well. Yeah, I mean
- 27:12I just ran the teams. We've been kind of doing this on the show,
- 27:17just not changing anything, running one hundred and fifteen, kind of seeing
- 27:19what we come up with. And it's a lot of hurts. If you
- 27:22don't change anything, you're getting this set. Just ran sixty three percent Hurts
- 27:27Captain. Then Drew Locke at fourteen, Tyler Lockett, AJ Brown JSN single
- 27:36digits, Taylor Hurt, Taylor Swift jees man. This is when you have
- 27:40a preteen daughter. It's just it's it's in your head, man when you
- 27:44see that name. It's very unfortunate. But DeAndre Swift gets a few percentage
- 27:48points as well. For me personally, I think whether hurts that is in
- 27:52or not like I'm gonna have the same approach that I want exposure to a
- 27:56lot of these guys. And part of the reason is you go in and
- 27:59start looking at the numb just sheer number of guys projected to have at least
- 28:03like two fantasy points today it's very low. There is not a lot of
- 28:07players on the slate to play like it's a tight group at wide receiver on
- 28:11both sides, there's you know, not necessarily multiple tight ends like it's it's
- 28:15a tight group. So it's going to be hard to get really concentrated at
- 28:19the captain position unless you you know, go all in on like a punk
- 28:23player or something. So Hurts is in, you know, obviously like him.
- 28:26If he's out, I think I still like the same guys now that
- 28:30I kind of looked at this. AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith. Smith is
- 28:33getting a lot of targets. I mean, you look at it. It's
- 28:37you know, eight, eight, eleven, ten, the pass catchers.
- 28:41Though on the eagle side, if if if Hurts is out, it would
- 28:44definitely be a downgrade for some of those guys, So maybe I don't play
- 28:47them as much or maybe not at all. It Hurts is out, So
- 28:49that's the one side that I want to see, and honestly, if he
- 28:53is out, it might push me to a more heavy Seattle side. I'm
- 28:56good with lock either way. I mean, yeah, he's getting a lot
- 29:00of hate in the chat and I get it, like it's Drue Locke,
- 29:02but we're playing. I think in the chat, the chat loves this guy.
- 29:06They think he's throwing for all these yards. They think he's good.
- 29:08He's just as good as Gino. They said, like all these angles on
- 29:11the guy, but you know there's one that's finally against him. Early on.
- 29:15There's a lot there. The hates coming in now. Now it's coming
- 29:19in. Early on, it was like, better with him. There's a
- 29:22lot same guy, same guy. Ultiple said it four different ways. Yeah,
- 29:32go ahead. I'm good with him. For fantasy purposes. He'll take
- 29:34the chances. He'll throw the ball deep, like a little bit of rushing
- 29:37upside, potentially ninety two hundred. Like he has a good projection no matter
- 29:41where you look, like he has a solid projection today. So I'm good
- 29:45with him. Uh, Tyler Lockett's very very cheap on the slate. DK
- 29:49metcalf kind of expensive, so I think DK Metcalf. His ownership in Captain
- 29:55is going to be held in check. JSM getting a lot of targets.
- 29:57We talked about Goddard h The one spot that I won't be going in Captain,
- 30:02which I know is definitely gonna be different from you, is I'm just
- 30:03I'm not playing any of the running backs up there. I'm just not gonna
- 30:06do it now. Again, if Hurts is out, I could potentially shift
- 30:10to some swift, but if Hurts is in, I'm not playing swift.
- 30:14I mean, it's hasn't been good for him lately. I get he could
- 30:15potentially pop here, but I'm gonna be off the running backs. It's gonna
- 30:18be passing games. You know, more of these guys will be in my
- 30:22lineup if it Hurts is in on the eagle side. If Hurts is out,
- 30:26you know AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, and Goddard. I'll scale back
- 30:30a little bit on. But I want the pass catchers and the quarterbacks in
- 30:33Captain tonight. Yeah, I think a lot. That's another take on this
- 30:37game. Maybe Goddard squeaks in as like, okay, find some late steam,
- 30:41but everybody wants the pass catchers. There's DK, there's Lockett JSN has
- 30:47been brought up, there's aj Brown, there's Davanta Smith, all that nobody
- 30:52really wants the running backs, and then of course you also have to pull
- 30:56this thing up and have the back and forth here that we're going to talk
- 30:59about, right because I'm not showing the other pitcher. Everyone knows I looking
- 31:02up dudes with no shirts on like that. But I'll tell you what,
- 31:04these boys, people are going to be playing them together and talking about that
- 31:07for sure, about back and forth and then going at each other and all
- 31:11this stuff. So what are your what's your take on that title? Because
- 31:15you know you can fit both these guys in the lineup together no problem,
- 31:18put one at captain, the other in flex, all kinds of ways to
- 31:21use these guys together, so uh, you know, running backs versus wide
- 31:25receivers. I guess, like who mentioned is kind of where my head's at.
- 31:27I think Swift could be a really good leverage play no matter what,
- 31:30it's gonna be hurts at twenty five percent or it's gonna be super cheap Mariota.
- 31:36That makes sense just because of the price alone let alone uses his legs
- 31:38and everything else that goes with it. So give me your thoughts on that,
- 31:41Yeah, I mean they're expensive that if so, everyone assuming Hurts plays.
- 31:47If you play Hurts and those two and you play, let's see,
- 31:48if you play Hurts that captain, you're left with four thousand left. I
- 31:52think DK will be the locket price, say, compared to DK is just
- 31:56so much cheaper. I don't know. But then you go back and it's
- 32:00like it's the same spot as a couple of weeks ago, Cowboys against Dallas
- 32:04or Cowboys in sales. What am I talking about? Cowboys against the Seahawks,
- 32:07where DK was like four percent home because he was way too expensive pay
- 32:10up to be contrarian, and he actually nuked the slate with three touchdowns.
- 32:15So maybe people really or remember that, but I don't. I'm not as
- 32:19convinced it's gonna be as popular tam unless everyone I'm not on Twitter as much
- 32:22as some people and the narrative going around, But I feel like at their
- 32:25price tags it Hurts plays, everyone's just gonna naturally plug him in the start.
- 32:30I feel like it'd be pretty tough to get both those guys do not
- 32:35think so it's I think it's fine, especially if Mariota plays That's the only
- 32:38thing I was thinking of. Right, once you get well, if we
- 32:40get Mariota, I'm just using that if then again, I just think it
- 32:44becomes easier to get to a lot easier of Mariota. For sure. I
- 32:46want Marioa to play. The more I'm talking about it, it hurts plays.
- 32:50This late's really tough for me because this hoop said there's only so many
- 32:52ways to go, Like both teams have a pretty condense. You'll go to
- 32:55these two hundred options, and only three of these guys down below. The
- 33:00Eagles only play like four receivers. I mean it hurts to play Isles plays.
- 33:07I'll give you the spoiler from the slate plan. No hurts at Captain
- 33:09tonight X's ass out try and flex lock him at the flex. Probably not
- 33:15even but I'll definitely play them in the flex. I would. I'd probably
- 33:17go like seventy percent or something and just leave some open. We've seen a
- 33:21ton of slates like this. I'm telling you guys, my never Mahomes thing
- 33:24is a joke, but it's not. It happened again yesterday. Mahomes.
- 33:28Even if you didn't need them somehow, you would have needed them with Ceh
- 33:30and mm McKinnon. But Lamar, I should have told you guys this before.
- 33:35There hasn't been the shows. Last night was the first Baltimore Island game
- 33:38I can remember in a while, and of course it's for a sundaynight football,
- 33:42but Lamar at Captain is like er for twelve. I think last night
- 33:45was like the first time it hit and I don't even know, man,
- 33:47it was like literally so many ways. It was like one point off not
- 33:51hitting again. So everyone gets so worried and it's ultimate fomo. We play
- 33:54to win the game. We played to win all the money and showdown.
- 33:59It hurts place that I'm gonna x him in the Captain. That's what I'm
- 34:00gonna do. That's what his touchdown prop is freeing like yeah, like a
- 34:05million what is it minne something? Yeah, minus one forty five And that's
- 34:09just on the ground. That is so great that because of that, But
- 34:14again that's so you gotta love Swift. You have to love Swift. That
- 34:19captain I want. But also the thing about hurts that's what Oh he gets
- 34:23the toushbush and they go back and they say, oh, Tambo's an idiots.
- 34:27See obviously he was gonna get in. He he's seventeen to one in
- 34:30the captain, he he better get that touchdown and then he better add another
- 34:32one, and then he better be moving it with his legs and hopefully find
- 34:37one of these guys in the end zone too. That's more of my angle.
- 34:38Nobody wants to bet unders in any sport, let alone football, and
- 34:43so I'm all about it. Like I said, I don't mind taking on
- 34:45that risk on a slate like this five hundred k up top tonight to real
- 34:50cheese up top title, the big one, not the two hundred, not
- 34:52the five hundred, not the hundred or the three hundred, the two hundred
- 34:57one of the fight, because the raise that end rufe man twenty a pop.
- 35:00You gotta be throwing twenty dollars bills for each team. Come on,
- 35:04yeah, people less, way, less people in the way. I might
- 35:07be less too, Tamboll. Hey, it's tough over here, might be
- 35:10twenty thirty teams over here. But yeah, I like I like your approach.
- 35:14I want Mariota because people hate leaving a lot of people handbuilding stuff,
- 35:19especially these twenty twenty dollars. Like I don't know, I don't actually I
- 35:22don't even know if that means more one to fifty years than you or the
- 35:24one to fifty pool will take up more than not, because twenty is a
- 35:28lot more than no people, people don't Your point is remains true though.
- 35:31People we don't want to leave. They don't want to leave that cheese on
- 35:36the table. They don't want to leave the big chunks. And you just
- 35:37naturally can can get your six k like he's already like three k two cheap,
- 35:43and people won't wrap their head. That's why I want it like that.
- 35:45And then yeah, I think there's a real chance he sets, but
- 35:49I don't know why, Like if this is a good thing or a bad
- 35:51thing. Patricia taking over defensive play calling, I think it makes a big
- 35:54difference. I watched this guy coach the Detroit Lyons. The only difference it's
- 35:59gonna make is in negative way because this guy's a freaking idiot, like a
- 36:01lot of these coaches in the NFL. Yeah, I might have to circle
- 36:06back on the five ones and have at least a little portfolio share for both
- 36:09sides. Now, Matt Now and Matt Patricia is cheeks. You got literally
- 36:13everybody gets put on. Ain't gonna improve anything. That's for sure. I'm
- 36:16telling you though, that's that Seattle sentiment. I'm framing it up now.
- 36:20The Seattle sentiment is over there on that side. Everybody's talking about Seattle in
- 36:24our chat today. They're oh for six. I'll tell you someone wrote about
- 36:28the Eagles one for eight. The chat is oh for six, is what
- 36:31I'm telling you. So that's what you got to remember over here. I
- 36:35am hyped up today. Sometimes I come into this I don't like it so
- 36:37much. Then these guys start talking. I start to love it. And
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- 37:36a week or so till that's out, but it'll be out at least a
- 37:38couple of weeks before the season starts. To OC is whatever. The sony's
- 37:42kind of the main but we'll go from there. And who pulled that up?
- 37:45Chat? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Hey, you're hating on the
- 37:47chat a lot about their picks, but you forgot one one element tamba the
- 37:52chat is I always do. Man, Let's go we'll see the chat is.
- 37:58That's just my excuse. If they actually do win tonight, I'll say
- 38:00it will up there. All right, let's move on. Let's go to
- 38:06uh some position stuff here. Let's go through running I mean, we did
- 38:09talk about quarterback and running back a bunch already, so not to speed it
- 38:14along, but I feel like we did a bunch. Rapaport says, Jalen's
- 38:16expected to play? Is that new? Yeah, if that's what they said,
- 38:21then definitely, I don't yet. But I don't see that, so
- 38:27I don't think that's legit. No, But man, my guy, Keaton
- 38:31Mitchell with the torn acl I hate to see that. That's especially sad to
- 38:35see guy was just turning it on. But title, maybe just you know,
- 38:37we've hit like quarterback a bunch, We've hit running back a bunch.
- 38:40We also touched on wide receiver even for that side of things. But is
- 38:44there anything we missed on those angles that you want to hit on her?
- 38:46If the chat, if you guys have questions on stuff you think we missed
- 38:50it, it's more because this lad is just different than any other. Like,
- 38:52we had to set up so many scenarios, and I thought we brought
- 38:55a lot of them to the table, but hit on anything else you want
- 38:58to title? If we can move into some of these other like tight end
- 39:01kickers, defenses, all that. We even hit on Patricia in there already,
- 39:06so go ahead, take over. Yeah, yeah, we talked on
- 39:08running back. It's really just Swift on the Eagles side for me, games
- 39:12all the way up to forty eight hundred, So he's like a pay up
- 39:15to be contrarian. I guess in Chalky builds. I don't know. It's
- 39:19still a lot for me as a third down pass catcher back, mainly Boston
- 39:22Scott's still there. I don't want to do it running back. Sharbon Ay
- 39:25Walker, it's all you gotta worry about. I prefer sharbon Ay if its
- 39:29plays. I prefer Walker if it's Mariota, just because I think obviously the
- 39:34Seahawks have a better chance to win or play ahead if it's Mariota instead of
- 39:37uh Hurts and it's Kenneth Walker early down sharbon Ay. On pass catching downs,
- 39:43two minute drill and trailing receivers, I mean yeah, like there's only
- 39:47so many guys you can go on the Seattle side. It's a three receiver
- 39:51booth. Metcalf, Lockett, JSN. You don't click any other name.
- 39:54I like DK the most because Lockett's priced Lockett's sixty six hundred, DK's nineties
- 40:00six hundred. That's just completely wrong and ownership is gonna follow. They'll take
- 40:04the three K savings, especially if Hurts is in, because that's when salary's
- 40:07way tighter. Maybe if Hurts is out and it's Mariota, then the ownership
- 40:12closes a little bit because salary isn't as relevant as much. So I prefer
- 40:16DK right now. But you can also go in those bills, plug in
- 40:22DK, you have your whole team, take DK out, plug in Lockett.
- 40:24There's three thousand savings right there. That's how I like using Lockett is
- 40:29leaving money on the table in teams. On the eagle side for receivers,
- 40:32pretty clear, obviously, there's aj Brown, DeVante Smith, Ques Watkins has
- 40:37been the guy that's taken the most wide receiver three snaps. Julio is still
- 40:40there, is a Kias is still there. Quez is the cheapest at eight
- 40:44hundred, Julio twelve hundred, is a Kiss twenty two hundred by far of
- 40:49the most interesting QUEZ out of all of them. Do I love them?
- 40:52Not really, But when we start talking about sub two K plays, there's
- 40:57really only so many guys down there, so I will have some QUEZ.
- 41:00Don't love Julio, don't love Zekias as much. I guess I'll just take
- 41:02it all the way and then you can get hoops thoughts tight end Goddard on
- 41:07the Philly side. That's all I really need. Jake Stole, no,
- 41:09thank you. Goddard got his full time role. I do like him.
- 41:13I think I prefer ming the captain though, because he's gonna be low owned
- 41:15there if he falls in the box twice, Tam, but you have good
- 41:19memories from a little godd or Captain with our band aids. See yeah,
- 41:22I like God he only guy there and where we're talking about these punt tight
- 41:27ends or like these options. Seattle still runs their three man tight end rotation
- 41:30Noah Fan, Disley, and Parkinson. I think Parkinson's my favorite all the
- 41:36way down there two hundred. Thisley's also two hundred. Noah fans twenty six
- 41:39hundred. So Parkinson's my favorite. I think he's Him and Fant have been
- 41:44running the most riot routes. The targets for all of them are awful,
- 41:47though, like the first read is gonna be locket or DK. Then the
- 41:51running backs like it's only if they are wide open. I don't love him.
- 41:54They need a pretty much fall in the box to be on the optimal.
- 41:58It's how I see it, and with if Hurts is in roster,
- 42:00construction wise, people might want to go stars and scrubbs just hope for a
- 42:05couple points down in the two hundred dollars range. So I think I'll try
- 42:08and avoid some of those builds and go more the mid tier because I think
- 42:13all those guys get a little ownership and probably come in over owned to jam
- 42:16in the studs. As far as kickers defenses, we always talk about it
- 42:22looking at ownership, I think it's going to be relatively similar on a lot
- 42:28of these guys. I don't know if you're seeing anything different. Seahawks defense
- 42:30will, by far I think, be the low least owned of the four,
- 42:35and that's assuming Hurts does play. I don't know. I mean,
- 42:38I don't like playing quarterbacks against Jalen Hurts. Though we know how to protect
- 42:40the ball. They I mean, I think they'll try and run it.
- 42:45I don't know. At the end of the day, these defense and the
- 42:45kickers, I'm on the kicker side more probably just be around twenty percent.
- 42:51I don't have a strong lean here, so my leans get pretty low owned.
- 42:54At captain, you got talk to me into the swift. I like
- 42:57the Goddards, I like overspending for DK. I don't love the stars and
- 43:00scrubs built as much. So I think you did get me off of some
- 43:04hurts captain teams, and then I'll probably on most teams land somewhere in this
- 43:07mid tier with one of the kickers and defenses, because who else are they
- 43:12surrounded by? Gain Well, I don't love that. I do love Sharbonay
- 43:15at four thousand, but he's gonna be much higher own, or he's gonna
- 43:17be higher own I think than the Eagles, both kickers and the Seahawks defense.
- 43:22And then JSN is fifty six hundred above, So actually looking at it
- 43:27more, JSN at fifty six and Sharbonay at four thousand, I think probably
- 43:30comes in higher own than both kickers and both defenses. So yeah, maybe
- 43:36I'll use that to get a little different in there. No strongly though,
- 43:38how what fits those builds is how I'm gonna like, what makes sense in
- 43:42those bills at my captain, what game script story my teams tell is then
- 43:45who I'm gonna decide to plug in that last spot. Yeah, I do
- 43:49like the kickers a little bit more. Regardless, both these quarterbacks, especially
- 43:52if Hurts was out. I mean, there could be more failed drives.
- 43:54And anybody remember you know Jake Elliot kicking a fifty nine yard or soaking wet
- 43:59out there. I'm gonna take that guy any time of the week. I
- 44:00mean, he can definitely make it happen. So who have you got to
- 44:05remember this all too well? Tokyo swamp Kilby. If Matt Patricia has a
- 44:08pencil in his ear, he's up in the booth. I'm betting agree agree
- 44:13this guy. Man, It's always the same way. So Patricia is an
- 44:15absolute joke, like absolute joke. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure.
- 44:21Yeah. The players definitely didn't like him, like they did not like him,
- 44:23so makes sense. Difference is the Eagles literally have to play. It's
- 44:27not like a team where we saw like last week where guys just quit on
- 44:30the Chargers. Right, you can have it set up where this spot.
- 44:32The Eagles got to keep it rolling here. They got to get this dumb
- 44:35and keeping things moving over in the NFC. So get your techn a touch
- 44:39on that too. I think absolutely yes, and I would I would love
- 44:43Maryo at Mariota at captain as well. Hey, the guy actually can rush
- 44:46or your offensive line gets your three yards push anyway, anyone can be behind
- 44:50there. So I reason, yeah, there's the reason he's the backup to
- 44:54Jalen Hurts because he has, you know, a similar skill set to jail
- 44:59It Hurts, and they can just implement their playbook with him back there.
- 45:01So I certainly think that he would be doing the same place as Herts.
- 45:07Who let me ask you this a little fun right quick? How much do
- 45:09you think Let's see if we can find this, how much do you think
- 45:13Jalen Hurts ways compared to Mariota? Uh man, I would say pretty similar.
- 45:22I don't know what's Hurts like probably two twenty five and Mariota is probably
- 45:25two fifteen or something. Title I was gonna say, yeah, I was
- 45:30gonna say Hurts was about two thirty, Mariota about like two five. Exact
- 45:36same weight on paper. Ye say, Mariota squat four. He's taller though,
- 45:42I mean Mariota's taller. Right. It looks like a stick company hurts
- 45:45his legs alone must the way. Yeah, wow, I'm surprised. Yeah,
- 45:49was ten pounds more. Some people got him as more man. They
- 45:52pushed me might break. Someone saidt's see I just thought. I mean,
- 45:55that's always obviously the running thing around it, Like all this guy squats six
- 46:00hundred, he can get in. Maybe they weigh the same. But we
- 46:02watch Mariota on the Quarterback Man. He's eating burgers and McDonald's is his favorite
- 46:07breakfast, a little sausage and egg McMuffin patty. So maybe it's not the
- 46:10same. Wait, it's the muscle on Jalen Hurts. It's a little bit
- 46:15of the extra on Mariota. I don't know, but I think they can
- 46:17still push him in the box, is my take. And I'm with you
- 46:20on that one title. So Hoop tight ends Kickers D's people can start throwing
- 46:24their scores into the chat and then we'll talk about fan duel after as well.
- 46:29With you hoop there, anything else is over there. I'm just I'm
- 46:30gonna go all the way through. I don't really like the running backs.
- 46:34I like Sharbone. Excuse me, the rough day continues for the hoops.
- 46:43The boy your boy is still still struggling over here, but I like sharbon
- 46:47Ay. I'll be under on swift Walker and the other guys. Game well
- 46:52just too expensive. Usually you get to wide receiver and there's a lot of
- 46:55guys you can consider. There's just not options today outside of the main dudes,
- 47:00you know, AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, metcalf Lockett, JSN.
- 47:06Outside of that, it falls off quick Ques Watkins. Maybe the one thing
- 47:08I will say, after going through this whole slate and just looking at it,
- 47:12I think there's a chance if Hurts does play his ownership and Captain is
- 47:17in check a little bit because we just don't have the cheap options. There's
- 47:22just not a ton of cheap options. When you put Hurts in that Captain,
- 47:24you're gonna have to play some cheap guys as it stands now that it's
- 47:28not available on the site unless you want to play guys like you know,
- 47:30Jake Bobo and Ques Watkins a ton at tight end. I love Goddard and
- 47:36then you know with Seattle, it's you know, TD or Bust essentially,
- 47:38like who gets the TD. The other two probably bust, maybe none of
- 47:43them get the TD. Don't love those guys, but nature this slate,
- 47:46you just have to play a little bit of them defenses the same story.
- 47:52You know, I'll plug them in with a moderate projection. If they hit,
- 47:54they hit kickers. Actually, like both these kickers Jake Elliott Myers,
- 47:59they can both get the job done. I'm gonna keep it short though,
- 48:02to preserve this beautiful voice I have over here. Yeah, I was just
- 48:07gonna say one thing again. I'm definitely not precinenter on this, but I
- 48:09can tell you when I put Jalen Hurts in the captain, I can still
- 48:14get like Goddard the kicker. I can get Drew Locke in like you can
- 48:16get good stuff from the other side, you can still get there. So
- 48:20again, how much can people get there? I don't know, maybe it
- 48:22drops it from twenty five to twenty ishu're eighteen to twenty or something like that.
- 48:27It's just still I think people can get to it. And then there
- 48:29is people that want to take chances on some of these guys down low,
- 48:32and some of these options, whether it's I don't know, Kolby Parkinson,
- 48:36Stole on the other side, Bobo Quz Watkins like they'll be no offense is
- 48:40twenty six hundred. You can still get to some of these guys down here
- 48:43too, So uh, to make it easier that, Yeah, well,
- 48:45I was gonna ask you that, like sub two K, like, how
- 48:50do you rank these guys, Like people said Bobo's name, Sure, he'll
- 48:52be out there a little bit, Parkinson's sure. Like I don't have any
- 48:55read on these guys. And you play multiple teams in there, I mean
- 48:59you probably they do mix it, especially if you are playing Hurts. But
- 49:01I do think people do that and pull out a name, honestly. Hope,
- 49:07well you don't. That's my point all the time, Like, Okay,
- 49:12that's why you're not playing. That's why you're not playing Hurts Captain.
- 49:15Yeah, like I it's not only that, it's not like afraid of it.
- 49:16It's my point is people are like acting like you only need to parlay
- 49:20a couple things. They're parlaying more than they need to in some cases,
- 49:22because first you need Hurts to get there at seventeen to one in the Captain
- 49:28that's probably a big boys score, and there's a bunch of dudes that you
- 49:30named on this slate that can outscore them, just the receiver's row of all
- 49:34those dudes that could get there let alone. If that's if you don't want
- 49:36to take a chance on Swift and some other options. But then on top
- 49:39of it, you're parlaying needing the big score out of him, needing others
- 49:43that are capable of getting to him, not getting there and then picking the
- 49:46right punt. You just made a bigger parlay for six picks. Is all
- 49:51you have to make on a showdown slide is one captain five plays and you're
- 49:54turning into a three or four game parlay. That to me is my point
- 49:58in that all the time as well, back to the never Mahomes Hurts is
- 50:00the best player in the game. Sick probably he's still probably the best player
- 50:05in this game. But it's like you still are needing more things to happen,
- 50:07to make that happen, and again I'll lose. You're going to lose
- 50:10so many slates anyway, when people can finally get that through their head and
- 50:15be okay with it and play with the proper bankroll management and the strategy.
- 50:19Really what our course is all about. That's free hoop and I go over
- 50:22all this in this main course. It's not necessarily the piece you get in
- 50:25this mini course. It's more on strategy and stuff, But in the entire
- 50:29course and everything we do at ship a Nation talks about that, and you're
- 50:32in it for the long run. You're not signing up for today and hoping
- 50:36to get money today. You're hoping that, but I'm saying if you don't,
- 50:39you're signing up because you want to make money at DFS. You plan
- 50:42on playing it. You're not just playing DFS today and then quitting the game
- 50:45forever and running. You're not going to the slot machine, pull it down
- 50:49one time, winning cash into the ticket and never entering a casino again.
- 50:52That's not what's happening, So keep that in mind when you're building. That's
- 50:57how I think of it, totally title. I don't need to go down
- 50:59there, that's the case. Yeah, No, I like it. It
- 51:00makes a lot of sense to me for sure. Oh baby, here we
- 51:02go. Big news, breaking news, baby, breaking news. D sixty
- 51:08lineups built so far, but more importantly, swift captain for all the Cheddar
- 51:15biscuits. Wow, Okay, I might have to change my stance on uh.
- 51:20If you don't like Cheddar biscuits, play them. True. Yeah,
- 51:23that's a good point. That's a good point. All right, let's uh,
- 51:27let's see some of these scores. Who did you have anything you want
- 51:29to add on FanDuel right quick? Just before we go to Yeah, it's
- 51:34similar case over there, but I'd say even worse in terms of like the
- 51:37number of Sheer plays. We got Hurts at seventeen k if he doesn't play
- 51:42Mariotas thirteen to five. Drew lock does have a Really those are good and
- 51:45I haven't bet Yeah, I haven't been, but those are good. Drew
- 51:52Lockett thirteen k's is too cheap. A J. Brown fifteen to five.
- 51:55I think that keeps his ownership in check a little bit. DeAndre Swift,
- 52:00I like a little bit more on FanDuel post to DK at twelve k flat
- 52:05DK Metcalf same story fourteen to five, pretty expensive, should keep his ownership
- 52:09in check. Tyler Lockett at ten k is cheap. JSN eight k,
- 52:15cheap Goddard nine K, cheap Kickers defenses all in that same range. Sharbone
- 52:20is the one that has a bad price take on FanDuel like way more expensive
- 52:22at ninety five hundred poses the four K and his game fits DK scoring much
- 52:28much better. So ninety five one hundred for sharbon A is definitely tough to
- 52:31get to. And then it's all the other guys we talked about. Noah
- 52:35fanse seventy five hundred, Parkinson seven k put him in a hat, draw
- 52:38out a name and have that beer guy, or just don't play them all
- 52:40at all, like Tampa's kind of advocating for which I don't hate so kind
- 52:45of the story over on FanDuel. I tell you what I say. All
- 52:49that talk a big game, and I'm gonna stick to it because I do
- 52:51what I say. But it is way harder on FanDuel to go away from
- 52:54hurts in the MVP. I'm still gonna do it. I'm just saying it.
- 52:58I get why people struggle with of those that don't know obviously scoring differences
- 53:01right, So it's totally different where I can get rack up the bonuses and
- 53:05the full point PPR on draftings. This way, it's way easier for someone
- 53:08to catch up or to get there ahead of him, versus on FanDuel it
- 53:13can just be him walking in two touchdowns that don't add up to as much
- 53:16as on the other side and get bonuses all the other things to go with
- 53:19it. So it is tougher on PANDO, but I'll still find ways to
- 53:22move around it. And I can see how this is true. Yeah,
- 53:28they add up after a while. Those shutter biscuits. Okay, throw your
- 53:31scores into the check as. We'll scroll back and find some of the other
- 53:35ones. I'll talk on that real quick though, while we're waiting for some
- 53:37more scores to pop in. Do you guys have at Costco where they actually
- 53:40sell the box it's like literally labeled red lobster and you can buy those biscuits
- 53:45and you go make them yourself. Yes, that's how you know something really
- 53:50good when it gets boxed. Tell it's that damn good. We need to
- 53:52package this shit up and sell it at Costco and we won't even let Costco
- 53:57get the no name Kirkland version of it on the real deal with that's good.
- 54:02That's how you know with like California Pizza Kitchen, they're frozen pizzas,
- 54:07they're in the Costco freezers. Like, yeah, one once once the store
- 54:10stuff makes it to Costco the Costco freezer, you know that, you know
- 54:15it's the real deal. Yeah, that's how you know if you're looking for
- 54:17buying tips at Costco. Not everything is a deal just because it's in bulk,
- 54:21But if you're buying something like that, you know you're getting the real
- 54:23deal. So title, I'll let you roll here first. Man, I
- 54:27don't know if you make those big Costco trips like everybody else, but there
- 54:30they get expensive. But give us your Costco take and then give us your
- 54:34first score you gott and I'll throw it in. Yeah my title, I've
- 54:37been title hasn't even been to Costco. I guarantee. We talked about a
- 54:40month, month and a half ago. The wife does the grocery shopping,
- 54:45okay, but I'm talking like, sorry, you does your household make Costco
- 54:50runs? And not quite? Not quite because it's like you said, bulk
- 54:52like my family, my parents suit because a lot of kids, we'd have
- 54:55way too much food. When the kids start coming, Costco will be the
- 54:59move, but right now doesn't make it. Trader Joe's is our move.
- 55:01The white nose. What to get at Trader Joe's. That's good spot too.
- 55:05Costco is great. I'm not saying I go there. Yeah, Costco
- 55:07is like the I mean there's two stores that I'm willing to go to,
- 55:10Costco and Dick's Sporting Goods. Anything else. The wife'side your own I hate
- 55:15like the samples. Yeah it's fine, but I mean there's good stuff in
- 55:20there too, like those first few holes when you walk in where they just
- 55:22have the rat random like seasonal stuff like I'd like some of their products.
- 55:25I'll tell you one thing I got from Costco. I'll pull it out,
- 55:29which is a you're in a cold area and you're cold in the office electric
- 55:35hand warmer. All right, this thing it is. This thing is nice
- 55:37and it can be and it can be used as a phone charger as well
- 55:42at Costco. Right here, I think it's made by Zippo. Just turn
- 55:45it on. This thing will heat your hands up. If you have cold
- 55:47hands, which I do because my office is the coldest room in the house.
- 55:52This thing will warm your hands up within ten seconds. Amazing product there
- 55:55you go. Oh yeah, do an ad zone near you and we'll get
- 56:00onto the Costco Zipo handwarmers the later Zippo. Yeah, and you can do
- 56:06it so it heats up only one side or both sides. Phone charger.
- 56:09I mean, this thing is this is a real deal right here. Yeah,
- 56:13you boys definitely need it. It's like twenty degrees here and I'm dying.
- 56:15Yeah, it's rough. I gotta get back. Yeah, give me
- 56:20a score title. Let's throw it at twenty eight twenty eight twenty eagles.
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- 56:45change the pace, the rush rate, the tds, who's getting the market
- 56:47shares, everything. We're just changing the score to keep it simplified. Twenty
- 56:52eight to twenty four, Philadelphia over Seattle. We've set it up for ten
- 56:58thousand simulations and we're about to run the SIMS as we clicked it now and
- 57:01get the optimal results. And did you ever notice this hoop? I caught
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- 57:08rocket ship in the top right of the Run the SIMS. I mean,
- 57:12this partnership couldn't even couldn't make it more perfect. You know, that's nice.
- 57:16Nice when you're on fully ligned with your partners that's a that's a nice
- 57:20little thing. In there and it will say tambo. Now with I just
- 57:22read right led off that Zippo handwarmer ad, the chat might get their way.
- 57:28You know, the haters that come into the chat and say, oh,
- 57:30you guys spend so much time marketing all the winners your website has.
- 57:34Maybe we'll switch over to a Zippo partnership ad read every day instead of promoting
- 57:38all our successful winners on this on the shows. Yeah, let's reach out.
- 57:43So I know what they got to say. Well, I prefer that
- 57:46the Manscape one, as much as we joke about it, is way too
- 57:49long. Like, I don't know how they think that's good. Their ads
- 57:52and stuff on Facebook and Instagram probably catch people like they catch them off guard.
- 57:55Let me just click it, buy whatever, take it from there.
- 57:59But when you got to eat it on these pods and shows, it's extremely
- 58:01It's excruciating, really, is what it is. So let's run through this,
- 58:06guys. This is the twenty eight to twenty score that we put in
- 58:08ran ten thousand simulations. All saying is the player position team salary. It
- 58:13says what run the SIMS has them owned in the flex? What run the
- 58:16SIMS has them owned in the captain slot and then that's their total is just
- 58:21combined obvious, and then it says over the ten thousand simulations, obviously you
- 58:25could say, Okay, he's showing up less and flex, but it's because
- 58:29he's showing up more in Captain. He's still showing up almost matching up to
- 58:32the field eighty five percent of the time. So to titles point, Yeah,
- 58:37gonna get pretty heavy on Hurts in Flex tonight with me not going with
- 58:40him at captain. So and this is good too. Well we know the
- 58:44score. Nick had it up there, but another or d Justin had it
- 58:46up there. Nick says, I hear Omaha Steaks are good. I heard
- 58:50they are too. Mayo's got that promo going on. I don't know if
- 58:52it ended yet, but it might have ended for the shipping before Christmas.
- 58:55But promo go Mayo. It's like an extra bunch of money off on top
- 58:59of the deals already have. So check it out. Omaha Steaks, get
- 59:01your deals over there? Title. What do you see with this one?
- 59:04Man? Give me your thoughts? Yeah, I liked as Lockett negative DK
- 59:08you pay up to be contrarie and it thinks that is the better leverage spot,
- 59:12which we talked about on the show. Doesn't like or like sharbon Ay
- 59:15more than the Kenneth Walker as well in this game script, I think it
- 59:20makes sense twenty eight twenty if they're trailing, sharbon Ay will get more of
- 59:22the work, more of the passing downs, So that makes some sense.
- 59:25A little surprising. Jake Elliott twenty eight to twenty. I mean that's four
- 59:30extra points that he is still positive leverage in the flex. I don't know.
- 59:34I couldn't quite wrap my head around that. The Jason Myers thing makes
- 59:37a lot more sense. But again that we know with Kickers, whatever score
- 59:40you put up there, Kickers, it dictates a lot. But that confused
- 59:44me a bit. Swift does not like, which is interesting, like Savante
- 59:49Smith more than aj Brown. Nothing really mean. I likes Drew Locke a
- 59:52little bit. The main thing that stood out Sharboney over Walker in this game
- 59:57script, which I'd agreed with, and I think paying up to be Contrarie
- 1:00:00Metcalf over Tyler Lockett at that ownership is also something I'm looking to do as
- 1:00:04well. Scroll down a little bit, let's see what the bobos Parkinson's disleaves
- 1:00:07of the world. Yeah, one quick thing I do on a note though,
- 1:00:10and I will do that. But just to your point you brought this
- 1:00:13up earlier then it just I know you just said this, but just for
- 1:00:15those not following me along or joining late, you said earlier, like obviously
- 1:00:17with the price, especially if hers plays is going to get enhanced even more,
- 1:00:22where it's just easier to get to lock it and it recognized even if
- 1:00:24you think these are wrong, and it's a little tighter than you would suspect
- 1:00:28like they think run the sims Hays lock it at forty percent in the flex
- 1:00:30DK twenty percent, similar in the Captain. It's still going when it comes
- 1:00:36back around way less unlockt way more on Metcalf, and it actually wants Metcalf
- 1:00:40even more at the Captain. So it was a great call out there from
- 1:00:44you JSN Kenneth Walker fan some of the guys that I'm seeing down the board.
- 1:00:49And then after that you get into like gain Well Quez Watkins doesn't like
- 1:00:53the punts like you talked about, which is rightfully so. I mean,
- 1:00:58if you're only playing a couple like Good Life, guessing which guy down below.
- 1:01:00So the more we talk about it, yeah, maybe the more mid
- 1:01:05tier captains are just not hurts Captain and avoiding all those guys down there.
- 1:01:07Like I'd rather play Seahawks defense than any of these punts because at least you
- 1:01:12know they're on the field constantly and it only takes one play. We see
- 1:01:15it all the time. Not that I love Seahawks defense by any means,
- 1:01:17but it was more positive leverage on this script than that. But yeah,
- 1:01:22that's another note too. I'm glad you brought that up, because again we'll
- 1:01:23get hoop. If you want to find another score there, we'll do that
- 1:01:27in a second. But the punk play thing, that's the other angle on
- 1:01:30it too, Like I really don't like punk plays unless there's something wrong,
- 1:01:32and even then I know it gets tricky. Like remember there was some slates,
- 1:01:36so it was like Randall Cobb as literally could be the dude based on
- 1:01:38he's like a wide receiver two or three tonight. At least then there's something
- 1:01:42to consider. A lot of these times people are just begging for something that's
- 1:01:45unique or diamond in the rough or whatever. I beat some significant Jamal Agnew
- 1:01:51lineups last night with no Agnew in my line. I came like second or
- 1:01:53tied for third or something in the main thirty three dollars last night and was
- 1:01:58right there, had Keaton Mitchells, but I had no and I beat some
- 1:02:00good agnw lineups that were behind me that also suffered injuries and things too,
- 1:02:04But the same same It's like you got Agnew, you got them to get
- 1:02:07seventeen points, and then you still didn't beat my lineup that didn't go there.
- 1:02:12And it's not me versus that, it's saying that. That's the whole
- 1:02:15point. You need so many things to go your way on those situations.
- 1:02:17So I look to use it on certain slates, but most slates you're not
- 1:02:22gonna need it, and even if it is, you need a lot to
- 1:02:23happen with it. So in the Ky Tucker Trey Tucker last Thursday, I
- 1:02:27put up a twenty spot and wasn't on the optimal. I don't know if
- 1:02:30that wasn't the legit optimal optimal, but it just showed. I mean it
- 1:02:34was one percent. But that's these guys down there. Yeah, that's the
- 1:02:37thing about them, right, they're already solo owned. And then on top
- 1:02:40of it is some of those lineups are dead with injuries, the wrong captain
- 1:02:45long players out of the six that missed all this. That number just keeps
- 1:02:49creeping down where it's harder for that diamond in the rough to matter to be
- 1:02:52in a diamond in the rough lineup. So that's the other angle of it
- 1:02:55as well. What do you got who you got to? Twenty to seventeen?
- 1:02:59Our guy Eddie? He dropped the salads there, but he's took out
- 1:03:01the shades. He kept the shades, but he dropped the sALS are.
- 1:03:04What's up, Eddie? We see you. Let's go back in here,
- 1:03:07our boy Eddie. Yeah, Eddie's always supporting man. We love to see
- 1:03:10it. Twenty to seventeen Seahawks. He's flipping it, he's saying it's hard.
- 1:03:15I do yeah. I do have a feeling though, that we're gonna
- 1:03:17see a lot of the same guys popping regardless of the score you put in.
- 1:03:21For the reasons that we've kind of discussed all throughout the show. Just
- 1:03:23not a lot of options. I mean, there's just not a lot of
- 1:03:27options. It's gonna almost turns it into just like a raw points sort of
- 1:03:30slate, like who can get you the fifteen to twenty type stuff, And
- 1:03:34that's kind of what we saw with the last score. I'm guessing we're going
- 1:03:36to see a similar the same same guys up top here. You know,
- 1:03:39maybe the percentage has shift a little bit, but I think we're gonna see
- 1:03:43a lot of the same. Yep, exactly, Yep. Drop Kurtzebby though
- 1:03:47Hurts already dropped big if you see that, Yeah, like ten. Yeah
- 1:03:51he was twenty five, twenty seven, now he's twenty five seventeen, So
- 1:03:54he dropped significant. Lock goes up of course because they're winning. So that's
- 1:03:59I get that. AJ Brown drops who else? But the first seven,
- 1:04:03I'm well about the first seven or eight guys on the list are gonna be
- 1:04:06the same with just about every score you put it, unless you do something
- 1:04:11like six to three or something like that where defenses and you know, kickers
- 1:04:15might show up. Yeah, I mean, these guys are all this is
- 1:04:15what I talk about every week on this about every slate. It's like that's
- 1:04:18what people are like, Oh, this guy, like, for example,
- 1:04:23Hurts, he sucks. Look how bad he gets he's minus seven and minus
- 1:04:26nine. Yeah, but he's got He's in almost eighty percent of the lineup
- 1:04:30still and then on top of it that right, so that that so this
- 1:04:34backs up your mindset for tonight. You know this would this would be good?
- 1:04:39Yeah, yeah, this I mean so far. I mean the two
- 1:04:42scores that we've put up have backed it up. And then I'm guessing again,
- 1:04:45if you put in, you know, another random score, it's going
- 1:04:48to back it up. Like it's not your mindset maybe tonight is. It's
- 1:04:53not as important what you do in captain opposed to what you do in the
- 1:04:58flex. I think flex could be more importan tonight than what you do in
- 1:05:01the Captain. Now, this all could change. Obviously if hurts us out
- 1:05:03like it hurts it out, this all changes. But with hurts in,
- 1:05:08I think flex plays might be more important than captain plays. And that's kind
- 1:05:11of leading into what you're thinking. Yeah, these things do dictated as well.
- 1:05:15Like last night. If you thought Agnew was a great play last night,
- 1:05:18I understand it. And that would be what boosts and helps the lamar
- 1:05:23in the Captain because you've got a two hundred dollars dude that you feel very
- 1:05:26confident and comfortable in, but at the same time literally needed a seventy yard
- 1:05:30bomb to get in there. And that's the way Shodam goes. I'm just
- 1:05:33saying, but he and he still wasn't necessarily, you know, needed to
- 1:05:36make good money. He just needed up top, and it was very close
- 1:05:40to the top. Literally a Tucker kick away, for example, where all
- 1:05:44I'm saying is you can still get away with it tonight a little bit different
- 1:05:46because we don't see those punts down to That to me, makes it even
- 1:05:48harder for Hurts to get up top. Hurts can still get up top.
- 1:05:51It's one game. It's anything can happen. But to whose point You're gonna
- 1:05:55see a lot of the same guys. It's not gonna love a lot of
- 1:05:58the punts. If you want to play punt rule a lot of people do.
- 1:06:00They run five to six percent of a lot of these guys. Build
- 1:06:02the rules around that, let them trickle in. If you get that and
- 1:06:05get away with it, that's fine. I'm not gonna go out punts completely
- 1:06:09because there's also a spot here tonight where a backdoor if then if somehow Hurts
- 1:06:12was out, and I have no problem even like seven grand on the table.
- 1:06:15That's gonna mean in some cases there could be a Fant instead of a
- 1:06:18Tyler Lockett, and I just hope that fant gets a touchdown and Lockett doesn't
- 1:06:23get the catches and doesn't come through. Like there's definitely spots like that that
- 1:06:26you can build around. We're not gonna build any more off of this.
- 1:06:29I was curious, though. Jason also asked another question. I just don't
- 1:06:32know if it'll let you. Here's a plan for tonight. Let me know
- 1:06:35what you guys think about this. So let's say just bid you build your
- 1:06:39teams. Just build them. Whatever you get of Hurts, you get,
- 1:06:42you know that sort of thing. Obviously, play around with it. Unless
- 1:06:45it Hurts gets ruled out. Don't change anything on those teams. Just go
- 1:06:49to Global swap take out Hurts. Put in Mariota. I want to say,
- 1:06:56yeah, but man, I would dock the pass catchers so much like
- 1:06:59I would like the AJ like some teams or something. I think it would
- 1:07:03be very interesting. So you're leaving at least like five to six grand on
- 1:07:09every team for sure getting what could be a similar player. I mean,
- 1:07:12Mariotta could be end up very similar fantasy wise to what Hurts would do.
- 1:07:16Interesting. Yeah, very interesting. I think I broke it, but I
- 1:07:20was gonna try and see you see this real quick, and then we'll get
- 1:07:25out of here. Sorry, guys, I just wanted to see one thing
- 1:07:27to answer his question because Tambo's doing that. I just searched Jalen Hurts on
- 1:07:32Twitter and I haven't seen anything since two hours ago. But like Chefy went
- 1:07:35on somewhere he said he's he's leading that he will play. Yesterday was definitely
- 1:07:40it's still a game time, but it seems like he's progressing a little bit
- 1:07:43from a couple of reports I've seen. Again, we'll get the news before
- 1:07:45a lot. Yeah, I'm making teams like he's playing. If you're making
- 1:07:49teams right now, like d d are Man, I would be making them
- 1:07:53like Hurts is in or Geno's out, and then adjust from there. Yeah,
- 1:07:58I agree. What I did is all the it ASSD was can you
- 1:08:00take out in a situation like this moving forward just using the product? Can
- 1:08:03you take it out? And then you can you can do it. I
- 1:08:06gave everything Hurt said over to Marriotte again, you'd probably want to play around
- 1:08:10with it more. The key was it just had to add up like it
- 1:08:13did. So I just use the same numbers for the sake of ease abuse.
- 1:08:15And now at his price tag, it's you know, saying all the
- 1:08:19other numbers are similar. It's saying that he is. Yeah, it's not
- 1:08:25really giving it, so yeah, maybe it doesn't. I don't like that
- 1:08:28as much about it, Like, I don't think you should be able to
- 1:08:31somehow move it over. It's still just having him in as all the same
- 1:08:35numbers across the board. So again, the good news is run the Simmons
- 1:08:39all over Austin. Will update once we get the actual news, so you'll
- 1:08:42be able to do it with whatever you want. But I don't see a
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- 1:08:56Title final thoughts from you before we get out of here. Yeah, no,
- 1:08:59I like I came in expecting to play more Hurts Captain than not,
- 1:09:01but you talked me out of it, And I like these punts are gross
- 1:09:04down there, so I like avoiding that range, hoping that the swift I
- 1:09:08really like plus one twenty is a good TD prop And when he gets in
- 1:09:12there, it's not going to be the push push, so you get the
- 1:09:15leverage off the chalk right there. I like Goddards, I like the p
- 1:09:18the spend on Metcalf overlock it to be contrarian a bit. You can always
- 1:09:24leave money. But yeah, I think the main takeaway that I got out
- 1:09:27of all this is avoid the bottom range. That means I won't be able
- 1:09:30to have as much Hurts Captain, and right now I think it's probably aj
- 1:09:34Brown and Hurts might be the only ones above ten percent at the captain spot,
- 1:09:39and then the Devonte's, the Lockett's, the Goddards maybe all seven to
- 1:09:42nine five something like that. I'd rather take my shots there. So yeah,
- 1:09:45avoid the bottom range. And again, if stuff changes, we will
- 1:09:49update and then the whole slate will be flipped on his head. If it's
- 1:09:53Mariota, we'll talk about that slate plan, etc. But I'm actually cheering
- 1:09:56for that to happen still because people hate leaving all that money on the tape,
- 1:10:00and I definitely will be Please please be jail and Hurtstar. I know
- 1:10:02you're on the other side. We'll have you guys covered those projections ownership.
- 1:10:06Our core reports will be up based on the latest news will be in the
- 1:10:10discord discussing it. If you have questions around it or you get stumbled on
- 1:10:13something, you can ask us there. The player pool for Hoopster will be
- 1:10:15up, and then I'll have the slate plan covered for you guys as well
- 1:10:18with multiple cores and then thoughts on if this then that last week actually as
- 1:10:21ugly as that game was the main core with the DeVante Adams and then the
- 1:10:26notes in the slate plant said play the defense against and it worked out and
- 1:10:30had some membership it and have a good week, So maybe this ugly slate
- 1:10:33will be the same way. But who final thoughts from you before we get
- 1:10:36out of here. Yeah, I mean got to monitor the news. I
- 1:10:40mean I'm kind of leaning towards I think Kurt's plays. We'll see, but
- 1:10:44yeah, it could be slate changing, But I like the path that we're
- 1:10:46on, and I think we kind of all came together and came up with
- 1:10:49some pretty good ideas. And you know, my mindset as of now going
- 1:10:53into tonight is flex is probably more important than Captain. Those punts are gross
- 1:10:58and we all kind of agree with it. So yeah, we'll get our
- 1:11:01content up. It'll be up early and then we'll be in the discord up
- 1:11:04to lock answering questions. Let's go ahead and have results a big night tonight.
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