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Breaking News: SGC Is Increasing Turnaround Times- Surface Issues With Mike and Graig · Sports Card Clubhouse

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In our massive country, there are card collectors throughout
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the land participating in the hobby.
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There's Mike of Junk Wax Hero and Greg of Midlife Cards, and
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while distance may separate them, here is where they come
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together to talk cards. Hey buddy, how's it going?
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You're back. I'm back, yes.
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I was in the Netherlands last week, which you know you had.
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Speaking D Deutsch, that's German.
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It's similar. They speak Dutch.
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Dutch I think is based on German or I, I don't know.
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I'm, I'm not very smart, Greg. Can I tell you something?
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I have some Dutch ancestry. OK, good.
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Story. That's the whole story.
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Yeah, pretty. Pretty good stuff.
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What did you think of David Chase's fill in for you is?
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Do you have any thoughts on that?
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Do you have any opinions or feelings or feedback for David?
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What was his name again? The David Chase.
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So I listened to it and I was in a little distress because my
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arch nemesis David Chase is after the same exact cards that
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I'm after. Iconic, low grade, high, I
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appeal cards. It's.
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Just the two of you that are into those, by the way.
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I am a huge David Chase fan and I think, you know, I we've
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mentioned this before, but I think it bears a little bit of a
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reminder that David Chase and I are buds.
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We get along great and this little back and forth, it's just
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for fun. We're not, We don't seriously
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dislike each other. But people always get caught up
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in in defending me or or insulting me.
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But I think David Chase is an up and coming star in the hobby,
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hobby content. He is funny, he has a ton of
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charisma, he's smart, he's knowledgeable.
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The He's got it all. Stukes said Best smile in
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YouTube. Best smile in YouTube?
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That's what Stukes said. David very proudly shared that
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with me. So you haven't heard Stuke
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saying that? Like you, he just claims that
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Stuke said that. That's a fairpoint.
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That's a fairpoint. David does say that you owe him
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an apology. Do you want to use this
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opportunity to do that? I would love to not bring give
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him an apology. There's no chance.
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There's no way I'm going to give him an apology.
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Oh, boy. OK, well, I definitely we have.
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Oh, there's other news. We got to talk.
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We got to at least talk about real quick the fact that the
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clubhouse just expanded dramatically.
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We went from a trio to a quadrio.
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There's four of us now, four of us with the addition of Jeremy
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Lee, which I'm. Thrilled about?
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Yeah, me too. Jeremy's amazing.
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I mean, he's no David Chase, but he discovered David Chase.
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Did you hear what Matt from Providence had to say about the
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acquisition of Jeremy Lee to the clubhouse?
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I have not heard. He said could you, I, I'm going
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to misquote him, but it's I'm paraphrasing here, so please I
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should have pulled the clip. But he said something along the
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lines of, could you imagine to sign up to be the second best
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bald guy on the channel? That's so that's something Matt
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from Providence would say. We have to I've got to clip that
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and I'm going to play it on every video now.
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That's that's perfect. I I appreciate Matt from
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Providence, even though he never texts me back.
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He just like thumbs up or hearts.
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My my texts. Like what?
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What is that? Matt, it sounds like he texts
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with everyone else based on their episodes.
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So I don't know, maybe he's busy being, you know, one of the top
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35 dealers in New England, so. Yeah, cards.
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In the cards in the Midwest are are popular.
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Isn't that where New England is? Yes, same thing.
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Big Matt from Providence fan, big Jeremy Lee fan.
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Thrilled to add Jeremy Lee to our stable.
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Do we have a stable? Becoming a stable.
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We just added Secretariat, so it's becoming a stable for sure.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm really happy about it.
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We have a few topics. There's a a few places we could
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go today with, with some of the things that are happening.
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And, and I guess where I think I want to start.
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This is a friend of mine in the hobby who I've met through the
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channel, who I'm not going to use his name because I didn't, I
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didn't ask him if I could use his name.
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And he's not like a public persona per SE, but he has
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several submissions out right now at SGC and you know, the
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turn around time. What are they saying like 50
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days or something? I think it was 40 to 50 business
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days. So it's past that and it's past
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the 40 to 50 days. Well past that, right?
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Well past that. And he emailed them, he emailed
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customer support and he said what what's the deal?
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Because it's it's past the 40 to 50 days.
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Yeah, it's at about 60 business days.
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I think this is a really interesting response that he
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got. So I did white out his name just
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again because I didn't ask, but Alejandro Marquez is the guy
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from SCC support that responded and I'm going to read the e-mail
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which is currently viewed on the screen.
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Again, I clipped it. It's on the screen and I want to
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read it for the people who can't read it for themselves because
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they're listening. It says hello.
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Due to the current volume of submissions that our team is
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processing, we have made the decision to increase our turn
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around times to accurately reflect the current processing
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speeds that SGC is operating under.
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Please note that this change and delays are not exclusive to SGC.
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A majority of the grading services are experiencing the
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same delays due to higher than normal volume of submissions
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being sent and have made similar decisions to increase the turn
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around times and service fees and service fees.
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Regards. Now this is dated May 21st and
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today is May 22nd. Now give me your immediate
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takeaways when you see this because my buddy sent this he he
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told me about it yesterday and then this morning I mentioned it
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to you. I got a hold of the e-mail and
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so we haven't really talked about it, but you're aware of
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it. What is your take away?
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Cause what is your take away? Yeah, first of all, we should
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say please don't go emailing Alejandro.
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This is not his fault. Don't, don't harass him via
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e-mail. It's shocking to me that they,
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well, I guess it shouldn't. It's shocking, but not
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surprising, if that makes sense. But they've gone from 5 to 10
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business days to well, we're going to do what I think it was
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at 1.20 to 30 and then it was 40 to 50 and now we're talking
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about 60 ish business days and it's still not ready, right?
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Doesn't it say here? No, so he, there was another,
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there was he, he was under the impression that they were going
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to be grading it this week. I think he responded to this and
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then in that response, which I didn't clip, it said your, your
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order should be graded in the next like week.
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And it's been there like since, I don't know, like February or
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January or something. Yeah, it's, I mean this is
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breaking news we should point out because we, I don't think
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this has been announced anywhere else.
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Nobody else has has this information that SGC is
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increasing their turn around times.
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And, and so we've, we've kind of reversed the spin of the Earth
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here. By I mean.
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Putting this on putting our show on Saturday so we could break
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this news and then this week in sports cards with Chris Sewell
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post on Tuesday here on sports car clubhouse.
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But this is, in my opinion, it's pretty big news.
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It's. I, It's big enough news that we
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felt like it was important enough to post surface issues on
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Saturday instead of Tuesday. And this week in sports cards
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instead of being Saturday will now be Tuesday.
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We flip those because I think this is a really big deal.
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I think the fact that SGC was A always the cheapest, B always
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the fastest and, and now basically if anything it it
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feels like if anything happens at PSA, then they have to have
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SGC mirror it. If, if PSA increases times, then
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SGC has to do it too because we don't want to make PSA look bad.
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That's how it feels to me now. I do think they're overwhelmed.
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I do think that they're behind, but they were used to be grading
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like twice as many cards in five to 10 days.
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Then now they are grading in 60-70.
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That, I don't know. They haven't made an official
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announcement yet, but it sounds like they're going to.
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So how do you go from 5 to 10 days grading twice as many?
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Well, the answer, Greg, is that you poach all of the graders and
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you have them change out their black and white polo and put on
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a red, white and blue polo and you have them go to the office
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with air conditioning down the hall.
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And the free coffee. Free coffee.
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I mean, I don't even get free coffee and I work for the
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government. Because you work for the
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government. Oh, is that why?
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Yeah, yeah, It, it's so disappointing, Greg.
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And it's there are so many people, you, you included, I
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think, who are still sending their cards to SGC hoping that
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you'll get the old result when you know you're going to get the
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new result. I, I have an order there right
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now. I mean, I send in an order.
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I, I don't even think I've mentioned this.
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I sent in an order like a couple of weeks ago.
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No, it was more than that. It was probably 3 weeks ago
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because when I tracked it, it was like a week and 1/2 from the
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time that they picked it up at the post office to the time that
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it said received. So they're playing that, that
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game too. But, but a lot of us still like
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the way cards, especially vintage cards, look in those
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holders and we still like the way that they grade.
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And I mean, you know, our buddy Matt from Providence, he just
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had a big order come back and, and a lot of people are still
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sending them out. I guess my question is, you
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know, PSA just announced they're going to hire like 1000 people
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and they're investing $200 million.
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And then I heard you, by the way, I mean, I, I just breezed
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over this, but I heard you on Collector Investor podcast the
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other day filling in on there and they said, and, and this is
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what I heard Jeremy say actually, as, as I kind of
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change my tone a little bit here.
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I heard Jeremy say that when they had needed a sub, you were
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their first call. It was an easy decision.
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And I, I mean, I felt, I felt like this sharp pain in my chest
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and in my back at the same time. I was like, what is happening?
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Am I having a heart attack? That it was an easy call.
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He's just being nice. Theo reached out to me and and
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he said. Oh, it's Theo's fault?
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No. No, Theo said that you were the
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first choice, but they record during the day I'm.
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Getting the pain again. It's coming back.
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They record during the day. Oh.
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Yeah, OK. And I will say this, you were
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filling in. Tell us, Mike, who were you
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filling in for? And tell us about this this
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gentleman. Mr. Christopher Sewell, the
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third, no, I don't know if he's the third collector, investor,
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dealer, in that order, who is the sponsor of this, this show
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surface issues, our favorite dealer globally, Global Sewell
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Sports Cards is now a massive company.
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He's he's, he's hired 4 people. In fact, when, when I was
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recording an episode with him, he mentioned at one point having
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the dual garage at one point. And I meant to mention to him
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that, that he looked better when he had clones and I forgot.
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It's a shame. If you're interested in selling
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part or all of your collection, reach out to
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chrissewellsportscards@gmail.com. He will provide you with the
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best, the fairest, most transparent offer you can get.
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No guarantees. For me.
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I, I don't know. I mean, he's, in my opinion,
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he's the best, but that's very subjective.
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And he's a great guy who you can trust.
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And in my humble opinion, the most important thing when you're
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dealing with something like making purchases or making sales
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with cards, it's really important to trust people
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because there are a lot of untrustworthy people out there.
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And Chris is somebody that I do deeply trust.
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So check out Chris if you're interested in selling.
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He's looking to buy collections. So back to SGCI.
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Mean, I don't, I mean, again, I know people are like guys, when
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you going to wake up like they're pulling the, I heard
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somebody say that in, in my episode, which we could talk
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about that too in a second. I, I had an episode post today.
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We're recording this on Friday afternoon and somebody said you
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don't get it. They're slowly pulling the plug
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on SGC and I'm like, I'm like, that might be my line.
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Like I, I, I mean, I agree like they are when you spend 200
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million on PSA and you are hiring 1000 people.
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And like you were talking about with Jeremy Johnson, the Texas
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snowman on Collector Investor podcast, you were like, yeah, if
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you do the math, they've only got like two or three graders,
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but PSA is going to add 1000 employees.
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You obviously don't care about SGC.
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Now that literally that hearing you and Jeremy have that
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conversation spurred my video that posted today, Friday, May
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22nd. And I know at one point you
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said, well, we should kind of touch on that too, which was,
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yeah, you're right. Like if they've got like two or
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three graders, if their turn around times have gone from 5 to
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10 days to apparently now 607080, who knows?
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If they've got no money being invested, but they're investing
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10s or hundreds of millions into PSA, Does that mean that maybe
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people are going to start to only buy PSA and start to go,
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wait a second, maybe I shouldn't buy SGC?
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Which led to my episode that I did today.
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And it was basically that question, what's happening with
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SGC? Are they nearing the end?
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And I pulled some data. Let me let me throw a
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hypothetical at you and see what you think about this.
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Let's pretend for a moment that SGC has three graders.
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We don't really know, but I think it's somewhere between
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2:00 and 4:00. They have 3 graders.
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Imagine if a cold went through the office.
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This is exactly my my question. Let's say one of them gets sick
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and can't go into the office and work.
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Are they pulling a grader off of PSA to make up for that?
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Or do they just say we'll grade a little bit slower at SGCI?
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Guarantee you it's the latter. I don't think they're pulling
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any resources from PSA to SGC, but I think that they might be
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pulling resources from SGC for PSA.
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Well, I mean, at the National last year, like I think it was
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me and Tony Southern collector were like, so like, are you guys
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going at PSA like, and, and they were like the, the, the employee
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was very open and honest and said they basically told us if
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you want to work for PSA, you can now work for PSA.
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If you want to stay with SGC, you can stay with SGC.
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And we're like, well, how many people said we'll go to PSA and
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they're like, I don't know, like 60 or 70%, We're like, whoa,
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whoa. But this is not new news, right?
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It's not new news. No.
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Were you surprised and by the fact that SGC values seem to be
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at the very least holding on, or is that just is that more a
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result of rising card prices and SGC maybe being the value
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option? We should, we should specify
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though, that you're talking about iconic vintage cards, not
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modern. Like I talked to Chris Sewell
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about this and he said ultra modern and modern have plummeted
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in value in SGC holders, which we would expect.
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I am, I'm not that surprised because I think that they almost
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became kind of a bargain SGC slabs because we still believe,
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we still trust that the cards are authentic, right?
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And you're looking at like fours roughly mid grade and it kind of
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got to a point where. The SGC vintage slabs were had
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become kind of a bargain and then people started buying them
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up. I I just bought an SGC slab of a
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pre war card 19th century. As a matter of fact, my first
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one coming in a video in the next couple weeks.
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And so it makes sense for them to kind of not catch up with
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PSA, but slow down the the gap. I, I think when PSA stuff is
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going up so fast and, and I shouldn't even say PSA stuff
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when cards in PSA holders are going up, it feels like like
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you're saying that if, if other holders aren't going up equally
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or close to equally, then they become massive bargains and then
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you go, well, is it a crack and resubmit?
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Like I was just watching a, a video a couple of days ago where
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some guy was like cracking stuff out of Beckett slabs and trying
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to cross it to PSA because of how much more value they would
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be. But then like Theo did that
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video the other day, I think from the Four Collectors
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channel, and he was talking to Howard Chasser and Howard was
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like, I have no interest in vintage cards in Beckett slabs.
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And it's like, well, what do you mean by that's a great question.
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Why would you? Because maybe there's a
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beautiful card in that holder. OK but it looks like it looks
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like SGC slabs look terrible on an ultra modern card.
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I agree with that. Same thing with Beckett.
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I would crack it out of a Beckett slab.
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I would be happy to buy a card in a in a old Beckett BVG slab
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at the BVG discount and I would just crack it up.
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OK, but so so you crack it out, let's just let's walk through
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that. Let's let's just let's play
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through this so you get a card. Let's just hypothetically a 56
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tops Jackie Robinson in a B VG3 and you go, I love the card, but
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it's in a Beckett slap. I'm going to crack it out and
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I'm going to put it in semi rigid or whatever.
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OK, well, but but are you ever going to get it regraded or you
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just going to leave it in in the the raw state permanently or
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what would you do next? If I were to grade it, it would
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it definitely wouldn't put it in a semi rigid.
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I can't stand semi rigids. I put it in a one touch but I
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would probably send it off to CGC to be graded.
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If it's staying in my collection, I'd send it to CGC.
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OK, So what if? What do you worry at all about a
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card of some expense going from a holder to raw to a grading
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company and coming back as altered?
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What do you think that BBG missed the alteration?
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Well, I've just heard of many times where when people have
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tried to crack and and switch that it gets flagged as men's
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size or evidence of or authentic altered.
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Doesn't mean that it was doesn't mean it was missed.
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Maybe it was missed but but I. Love the card, right?
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Yeah, Yep. So if I, let's say, let's say
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PSA, three of the 56 tops Jackie Robinson, I don't know what that
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sells for. Let's say $800.
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You're making that up based on what I know about the 56 tops.
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I have a 56 tops Jackie up on my wall right now.
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Let's say it's $800 in a B VG3. What is it, 5?
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Maybe $600? Let's just go with that.
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OK. And I like the card.
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It looks, it's perfectly fits what I'm looking for in a 56
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tops. Jackie I can't I don't know, I
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just can't be bothered by if it so if it's the same exact card,
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CGC says this is altered I. Don't really want flushing money
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away. Like to me, if, and this is I
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think that this is evolving into a a completely separate
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conversation, but is a very interesting conversation, which
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is if you have a card that you like, you like the card, but
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it's in a holder that you don't like, maybe you like the
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uniformity of SGC. You know, John 3D 80s kid loves
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SGC. Everything is uniform from an
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SGC. So he buys a card in a in a
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Beckett slab, ABVG slab, and he says I'm going to cross it.
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Isn't there risk in cracking it and sending it to SGC?
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And I mean, and there's a lot of risks.
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There's the risks of putting it in the mail.
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There's the risk of it maybe getting a bad grade, which you
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don't care about the bad grade because you love the card.
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That's fine. There's the risk of it going
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well, no, we think it's trimmed. We think that there's color
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added. We think that there's XYZ issue.
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I think cracking, anytime you crack and you resubmit to
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anyone, even if it's the same company, you are taking a risk
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that that card will get deemed some other thing.
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Isn't that? Isn't that part of the equation
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that you have to consider when you're doing that process?
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Absolutely, yeah. But do you probably I'm I'm
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unlikely to buy a BVG slab just because I don't think.
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But you love the card. But you love the card.
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But I I don't think they have a good reputation.
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So does it look amazing because it's trimmed or it's had color
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added? I think with BBG you just don't
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really know. I.
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Think that's really important what you just said that you,
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you're, you know, all of the data and, and anecdotal evidence
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and conversations use currently sit in a state where you are
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unsure of the competencies or validities or the of of a BVG
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graded card. And isn't isn't that potentially
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part of the reason that cards in those holders sell for less
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because there are enough people who don't trust it?
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Sure, but why does CGC slabs sell for less?
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Everybody knows that CGC is a good grading company, Reliable,
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trustworthy. They get it right.
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Do they? They they make mistakes just
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like any company, but seems to me like there's fewer of them.
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I. Mean we.
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Open questions about a George Sherm T2O6 card.
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But slabs look amazing, unlike BVG slabs.
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I think that we all have opinions and baggage that we
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bring to the table. I'll be honest with you, if I go
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up to a vintage dealer and there's a card in a Beckett slab
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and there's a card in a CGC slab, I don't think I'm
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interested if it's a very expensive card.
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Now, that doesn't mean either one of them isn't fantastic.
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And that also doesn't mean that if it's in APSA, because I know
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that this is what I know there are people that are just furious
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right now because they're saying, oh, so you don't think
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cards in SGC or PSA holders are trimmed and colored, added and
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and altered? Of course there are.
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Of course they're absolutely are.
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But if for whatever reason it's universally accepted that if
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it's in APSA holder, everybody just goes well, must be legit.
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But if they say it's in a BVG holder, it it's probably legit
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that that is the delta in the value of the price.
29:27
And I don't know how PSA was able to create that difference
29:34
in doubt. The doubt difference is less in
29:38
PSA. And that's why when you watch a
29:40
video like what Teapot did, where Teapot was, you know,
29:47
cracking the same card and send in to all the companies in the
29:50
grades were just absolutely all over the place, sometimes
29:53
altered, sometimes eights or nines or fours and fives.
29:58
That that is the kind of thing that has the potential to be a
30:05
major disruptor to the whole concept of grading.
30:09
And the guys like John Mangini who've been seeing for a while,
30:13
this is this whole thing, you guys is a racket.
30:17
It is like hard to argue, right? I don't know.
30:25
I don't I don't know. I mean, you know, I've shared my
30:30
opinion on all of it many times. I guess the way I look at it is
30:35
if I buy a card in an SGC holder, that's probably its
30:39
final resting place, and if I buy a card in an PSA holder,
30:43
it's probably its final resting place because of my level of
30:49
trust is high enough. The presentation of those two
30:53
slabs for me is high enough. I think CGC looks better for
31:00
modern stuff than vintage stuff, personally, so it wouldn't be
31:06
the final resting place for me. Therefore, I'm just not going to
31:10
really go down that road because I'm going to have to crack it or
31:15
I'm going to have to try to cross it over, and there's a
31:18
level of risk to that. So I just rather not participate
31:22
there. Even if I love the card and the
31:25
card isn't messed with, it's never leaving the slab for me if
31:31
it's in APSA or an SGC holder. And yeah.
31:35
So yeah. Isn't there a bit of a market
31:37
inefficiency though where if a card goes for $1000 in APSA 5
31:44
let's say, and you see an SGC card that looks like it would be
31:49
APSA 5, like there is a like a 80% chance you're going to get a
31:53
5 or even better and that card sells for $700.00.
31:58
Isn't there a little bit of a market inefficiency there that
32:00
you could exploit by buying the SGC card and crossing it over to
32:06
APSA slab and now you have $1000 card or maybe even more that you
32:11
bought for 700 bucks? And isn't it possible that the
32:15
opposite is true? Because I'll tell you right now,
32:19
something that my dad has done several times, because my dad
32:22
prefers SGC slabs, he, oh, he prefers the look of the SGC
32:26
slab. So what he was doing for a
32:29
couple of years is he was buying some of these cards and PSA
32:33
fours that just look amazing. And I did a couple of videos on
32:38
this and showed some of the examples like it's like APSA
32:42
four that looks amazing. He cracked it and submitted it
32:44
to SGC and get like a 7 and it now it's in a 7.
32:49
So yes, there's an inefficiency. The direction of this card is
32:55
selling for less in an SGC holder.
32:58
So if you can get it in APSA holder with the same grade then
33:02
it adds value and but vice versa of the undergraded card in PSA
33:09
going to SGC getting a potentially a higher grade.
33:12
But the the reason that that game is basically on life
33:19
support is because of the turn around Times Now if it takes 120
33:27
or 50, how many days is it for PSA now?
33:30
140 to 160 business days, that's seven or eight months my.
33:34
Gosh, it is May. And that's only climbing.
33:39
By the way. Do you think that these thousand
33:41
people they're hiring are going to be up and running in the next
33:43
6 months? Probably not.
33:45
That 140 to 160 could be 180 to 200 within the next three
33:50
months. I mean, you're probably getting
33:53
the card. If you submit a card today to
33:55
PSA, you're probably getting it back in 2027, right?
34:00
Is insane. When I submitted So I submitted
34:05
some cards to SGC in December. At the time the turn around time
34:10
was 15 to 20 days. But while it was in their
34:14
possession, they changed it to this like whatever 40 days.
34:19
They they decided why after by the way, after they received my
34:23
money and it was advertised as 15 to 20 days, they turned it
34:29
into 40 or whatever. And they took every bit of the
34:32
40 ish days. OK, let me just play it.
34:36
Let me put on a tinfoil hat for a second and let me ask you
34:40
something. Do you think it's possible that
34:44
SGC could be grading more cards faster and they are simply
34:51
grading them slower because a they already have their money
34:56
and B if they grade too fast it might pull people away from PSA
35:03
because they need the card back quick.
35:06
Do you think that that's possible, or do you think that
35:08
they're truly at Max efficiency? Oh they're definitely not a Max
35:14
efficiency. They can pull one person over
35:16
and gain 30% efficiency. I think it's possible what
35:22
you're proposing there, but I think it's unlikely.
35:25
I, I don't think a slight improvement at SGC would make
35:29
any dent whatsoever in PS as numbers.
35:33
I mean, I think for a while I thought PSA might be hoping to
35:38
reduce their demand, so I I don't see any.
35:44
So you don't think they say don't grade too fast graders.
35:49
You think they're like you don't think, and I mean, I mean deads.
35:53
I'm just, I'm just throwing out a hypothetical.
35:56
You don't think it's possible that that SGC is purposefully
36:01
grading slowly? Do you?
36:03
So let me throw this back at you.
36:05
So they've got guys making 25 bucks an hour at PSA to grade X
36:10
number of cards a day and they're making 25 bucks an hour
36:13
at SGC. And you think that they'd be OK
36:15
with them grading 75% of that number just because?
36:20
Just saying, just slow it down a little bit.
36:22
Or is it more likely that they have bled SGC drive by pulling
36:25
graders away and being OK when one grader is out sick for a few
36:29
days? Well, let me just be clear that
36:31
I'm not saying that this is what's happening.
36:35
What I am simply throwing out to chew on is, is it possible that
36:40
that's happening? But with that said, let me give
36:43
you an example. I know somebody who worked for
36:48
the state, OK, and they were doing so much work so quickly.
36:55
Their supervisor said, bro, you need to slow down because if you
37:01
do too much work, they're not going to need as many of us and
37:06
they're going to have to cut back.
37:08
So what you need to do is your Max capacity needs to go down so
37:15
that we all can keep our jobs because you're doing too much
37:19
work and they're going to go. We don't need 5 people, we just
37:22
need 2 good people. Like this is what the dude was
37:26
told. So is that now again private
37:30
company I? Said it's.
37:31
I said it's very possible. Private company versus
37:35
government is different. I think that's one really,
37:39
really bad manager. Is it?
37:42
Because if, if I were that person's manager, I would be
37:49
hammering on the other four people saying, hey, we need to
37:52
increase. Our work.
37:54
You you you. You sound like a private sector
37:56
guy. I am.
37:58
I've been private sector my whole adult life.
38:00
I know I, I agree with you. I don't think that they're doing
38:04
it. I, I do think in all seriousness
38:07
that they have pulled as many resources as possible to their
38:15
cash cow where the profit margin is higher and, and they've left
38:22
SGC with just enough scraps to survive, but nothing more.
38:29
And, and that's, that's, that's the issue.
38:34
I, I think if five people showed up at SGC today to get a job as
38:39
a grader, they would say was you didn't, you didn't stop by the
38:44
office next door at PSA first because like go there and if
38:48
they're not interested, then come back.
38:50
That's how it that's what I think is probably actually
38:53
happening. But I think SGC would say,
38:55
sorry, we're not hiring. Really, you'd think if I went,
39:00
you think I would. I go down to Boca Raton.
39:02
Gosh, I wish I lived in somebody down there.
39:05
I'm being dead serious. Somebody go down there who lives
39:09
in that area of Florida. I don't even know where Boca
39:11
Raton is. I just know it's in Florida.
39:13
You go to the SGC office and go in there and say, are you
39:18
accepting applications? Are you hiring?
39:20
I would love, I would love to hear that.
39:24
I will say, this is it indeed. Is that one of the hiring
39:28
things? I Googled and you're Googling it
39:30
right now. I can see your eyes.
39:33
I was looking to see if they were hiring and I couldn't find
39:37
anything that SGC. I even asked AI is SGC hiring
39:41
and. Why would they be?
39:44
Why no? Fun fact.
39:45
Why? Why wouldn't?
39:47
They be Why would why wouldn't a private business be hiring right
39:52
now if they are so far behind that they are extending out
39:57
their service time? Because they're bleeding them
40:00
dry. Right.
40:03
Fun fact, Boca Raton. Correct?
40:05
Correct. Mike Petty ISM Boca Raton means
40:11
mouse mouth in English. Well, I got the Boca part.
40:16
Oh, Raton. That makes sense.
40:18
Rat is Raton and Boca is mouth. Yeah, I that.
40:23
I love that. Thank you.
40:25
Yeah, fun fact. Hey, I know we're up against it
40:28
here, but I wanted to just say two or three weeks ago on this
40:31
this very podcast, I mentioned that I had never had a pastrami
40:34
sandwich. Oh yes.
40:37
Our friends channel friends at Auction Wire mailed me.
40:42
I know they mailed you one too, but you've had a pastrami
40:44
sandwich, a pastrami sandwich kit from Gold Belly Deli, which
40:49
is I guess in New York City. And I, I dove right in.
40:53
I mean, I, I'm not one to be like, oh, I've never had one
40:57
before. So I'm not going to try it.
40:59
And it's not just one sandwich, Greg, I've had four pastrami
41:03
sandwiches and they are spectacular.
41:06
They are out of this world comes with rye bread, pastrami, a big,
41:11
big thing of pastrami. You got to supply your own
41:15
cheese. So I've, I've got provolone
41:17
cheese. It came with some spicy mustard.
41:24
What kind of mustard is it? It's like the spicy brown that
41:28
they have at the at the like the baseball games and stuff.
41:32
And Russian dressing. And man, it is I'm I'm looking
41:37
forward to lunch tomorrow. I'm having another one.
41:40
Are you? I got to say, it was a delicious
41:44
sandwich, but it was a thoughtful gift.
41:48
I mean, Mark is a really nice guy and they're great guys over
41:53
there. But yeah, I mean, that.
41:56
How cool was that? I didn't even know what was in
41:58
the mail. I literally was like, what did
42:00
my wife buy this time? And then come to find out what
42:05
it was is our buddy Mark sending us a sandwich?
42:09
That was a delicious pastrami sandwich and I guess now would
42:14
be a good time to also share with everybody.
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starting to cover some private dealers as well, so.
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So auction wire good guys. And yes, I agree, the pastrami
43:18
sandwich was chef's kiss. Lucy had one as well.
43:24
She very much enjoyed it. The rest of it I ate.
43:27
So Lucy got one, I ate the rest. You've eaten all of it.
43:32
It's gone, dude. It's.
43:34
Gone, man, I've got one more, I think.
43:37
Well when I do it I I go heavy on the pastrami, I pack it in
43:41
there. So I probably got like 3 1/2
43:44
loaded sandwiches. Oh yeah, I don't, I don't load
43:47
them up. Yeah, I'm trying to delay my
43:51
first heart attack as much as I can.
43:54
I'm trying to expedite it. All right.
43:59
Well, another one in the books. Fantastic conversation with you.
44:05
I mean everything from David Chase to breaking news to
44:12
auction wire sandwiches. Can I say it?
44:16
Can I say it? Yeah.
44:18
We've fixed all the world's problems.
44:21
I mean, somebody's got to do it, bud.
44:24
And we don't wear capes. We we don't fly through the air
44:30
tights, tights occasionally, only on anniversary days.
44:39
All right, dude, I'm happy to have you back.
44:41
David Chase, you are a superstar for trying to fill the chair.
44:48
And I know, like you said, a lot of love between you and David
44:52
Chase. So those of you out there that
44:54
think otherwise, that is not the that is not the case.
45:00
All right. Final thoughts, Anything else or
45:03
is that plug pulled here? Pull the plug sort of like pull
45:09
the plug. Sort of like Collectors is doing
45:13
to SGC.