Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Nate Burelson & Melanie Few Talk NFL Partnership, SuperBowl Soulful Celebration, Mental Health + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Everybody is d j en Vy, Charlamagne, the gud We
- 0:07Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
- 0:10Speaker 2: the buildings. A special guests, I should say, we have
- 0:12Speaker 2: Nate Burlson and Melanie Few welcome.
- 0:14Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? How y'all doing? Appreciate you having?
- 0:17Speaker 2: We got Melanie's chair? Can we live Melanie share please?
- 0:21Speaker 2: The mic is all in in front.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Of the face. I ain't never hold on a little bit.
- 0:25Speaker 3: There, there we go, there we go, right, there we go,
- 0:29Speaker 3: all right everywhere?
- 0:31Speaker 1: Nate, how you got time to be here? Man? I'm working, but.
- 0:35Speaker 4: I got a few breaks and then y'all told me
- 0:37Speaker 4: to pull up. I'm pulling up, man.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Okay.
- 0:39Speaker 2: So we don't really care about them bum ass cowboys
- 0:40Speaker 2: playing tonight anyway. So that's that's how you're starting. The
- 0:45Speaker 2: cowboys is falling this year exactly?
- 0:47Speaker 1: You want to talk about New York teams? No, okay, I'm.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Good, My d is good. Were good, y'all good?
- 0:54Speaker 1: Though? This morning I wake up at four a m.
- 0:58Speaker 4: We live at seven, done and nine, and then after that,
- 1:01Speaker 4: if I have a shoot in the city, I'm gonna
- 1:03Speaker 4: stick around, get that done, or travel out somewhere. But listen, man,
- 1:06Speaker 4: I'm blessed and hoighly favored. I'm not tripping about working
- 1:08Speaker 4: too much.
- 1:09Speaker 1: That's right, best blessed, black and highly favored. That's that's it. Yeah,
- 1:13Speaker 1: no doubt.
- 1:13Speaker 5: Now y'all here to talk about the best of Super
- 1:15Speaker 5: Bowl Soulful Celebration.
- 1:16Speaker 1: What is that exactly?
- 1:19Speaker 6: Am I?
- 1:19Speaker 5: Okay?
- 1:20Speaker 7: So the Super Bowl Soulful Celebration was originally the Super
- 1:24Speaker 7: Bowl Gospel Celebration, and so it is a wonderful, uplifting
- 1:31Speaker 7: event that puts a light on players as well as talent,
- 1:35Speaker 7: whether it be gospel or RB and soul. And just
- 1:38Speaker 7: to give you a little bit of history, I went
- 1:41Speaker 7: to Super Bowl.
- 1:42Speaker 6: But I'm aging myself a bit.
- 1:43Speaker 7: But back in the early nineties, and I couldn't figure
- 1:46Speaker 7: out why there was no gospel event during Super Bowl.
- 1:49Speaker 7: So I wrote the NFL, and I wrote them and
- 1:52Speaker 7: got seven years of rejection letters. And that's why I
- 1:56Speaker 7: know that Bibically, the number eight is about new beginnings,
- 1:59Speaker 7: and that's so I know it matters because on the
- 2:01Speaker 7: eighth year, they said, well, this lady is crazy and
- 2:04Speaker 7: she's gonna keep writing us, so we will sanction you.
- 2:07Speaker 6: I didn't know what the sanction was.
- 2:08Speaker 7: I didn't know the importance of it, and I said, well,
- 2:11Speaker 7: what is a sanction? I was hoping they were gonna
- 2:12Speaker 7: say meet them at the bank somewhere, but they said,
- 2:16Speaker 7: we would give you the rights to use our intellectual
- 2:18Speaker 7: property to do this event, and so we have been
- 2:22Speaker 7: doing it. Now we're coming up on our twenty fifth year.
- 2:24Speaker 7: But we wanted to take a moment and look back
- 2:27Speaker 7: on the twenty four years beautiful testimonies from players like
- 2:31Speaker 7: Russell Wilson and Dione Sanders and some of the most
- 2:34Speaker 7: amazing talent from pad Laville to Gladys Knight to Yolanda
- 2:38Speaker 7: Adams and Moorees and Fantasia. And so when we were
- 2:43Speaker 7: trying to decide, Okay, how do we really look back
- 2:45Speaker 7: over these twenty four years and make it a beautiful experience,
- 2:49Speaker 7: we immediately thought about Nate to be the person to
- 2:52Speaker 7: show our journey.
- 2:53Speaker 3: You know, because connection with and gospel culture number one.
- 2:57Speaker 7: We knew that Nate was just an exceptional person. We
- 3:01Speaker 7: had done our research on what players and he's his
- 3:05Speaker 7: to me, his life is a testimony because a lot
- 3:08Speaker 7: of times people feel like players are only good for
- 3:10Speaker 7: being on the field. He has shown that he has
- 3:13Speaker 7: taken his career in the NFL and shot to the
- 3:16Speaker 7: heights of media. To me, that is a testimony. And
- 3:20Speaker 7: then not to mention he's fly. The only problem I
- 3:23Speaker 7: told Nate we're having with him is all these church
- 3:25Speaker 7: women are emailing us and we're having to remind him
- 3:28Speaker 7: he's married.
- 3:30Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm working for you.
- 3:31Speaker 4: Now.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Where is the soulful celebration.
- 3:37Speaker 6: It's going to be in Las Vegas.
- 3:38Speaker 7: It's wherever super Bowl is, and so we are usually
- 3:41Speaker 7: the Wednesday of the Thursday night before Super Bowl, and
- 3:44Speaker 7: it's just like I said, it's an amazing journey. We
- 3:46Speaker 7: do a faith and action segment where we've honored everybody
- 3:50Speaker 7: from Russell Wilson to Cam Newton to Dion Sanders and others.
- 3:59Speaker 7: And we've had everybody God has really been good to us.
- 4:02Speaker 7: We've had Tom Brady on the show. We've had Dak Prescott,
- 4:05Speaker 7: we have had a lot.
- 4:06Speaker 5: Of him pray for who I'm a cowboy Fana.
- 4:12Speaker 6: We were keep him protected.
- 4:13Speaker 7: And so we've had all these amazing players and really,
- 4:16Speaker 7: what it is it weaves up, It tells a story.
- 4:19Speaker 7: So we take player testimonies and they talk about their
- 4:23Speaker 7: faith and what drives them on the field, and then
- 4:25Speaker 7: we blend that with these beautiful performances by people like
- 4:28Speaker 7: Yolanda Adams, Fantase, You're, Gladys Knight Done, mccl kirk, Franklin,
- 4:35Speaker 7: New Dog Win, his gospel album and all that.
- 4:37Speaker 6: So it's been.
- 4:41Speaker 5: I want you to talk about this process, Melanie, because
- 4:44Speaker 5: you ought to found an executive producer.
- 4:45Speaker 1: But how were you able to take.
- 4:47Speaker 5: This idea and then have the web with all to
- 4:50Speaker 5: say I want to partner with a big enterprise like
- 4:52Speaker 5: that the NFL.
- 4:54Speaker 1: How did that happen?
- 4:56Speaker 7: I was that little girl when my parents would tell
- 4:59Speaker 7: me no, never understood that they really meant it for real.
- 5:02Speaker 6: So I used to have to get a spanking.
- 5:04Speaker 7: And so to give you guys an honest opinion, when
- 5:07Speaker 7: I went to Super Bowl, I'm gonna tell you that
- 5:09Speaker 7: was my before christ days back and we had parted
- 5:12Speaker 7: all weekend.
- 5:13Speaker 6: So we were all.
- 5:16Speaker 7: We had parted all weekend and we were looking for
- 5:18Speaker 7: Jesus by side, come on, somebody smelling.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Like last night?
- 5:26Speaker 6: Yeah, real bad.
- 5:27Speaker 1: And so.
- 5:30Speaker 7: That's when the Lord gave me the idea to write
- 5:33Speaker 7: the NFL and so to make a long story short
- 5:36Speaker 7: after and I'll actually tell you guys how it started
- 5:39Speaker 7: after writing them. For some reason, I couldn't let the
- 5:42Speaker 7: concept go writing them, writing the NFL PA. All these years,
- 5:46Speaker 7: they just kept getting those. Finally, and this is a truth.
- 5:50Speaker 6: Bless his heart. He's deceased now.
- 5:52Speaker 7: But Jeane Upshaw was alive at the time, and Gene,
- 5:55Speaker 7: one of my friends, worked that he didn't realize she
- 5:57Speaker 7: was my friend. He was like, y'all, this lady is crazy.
- 6:00Speaker 7: She's been emailing us for seven years. Well calling and
- 6:03Speaker 7: he was like, I know how.
- 6:04Speaker 6: I figured out how we're gonna get rid of her.
- 6:06Speaker 6: And so they said how. He said, I'm gonna tell her.
- 6:08Speaker 7: We'll do it, and I you know, get the NFL
- 6:11Speaker 7: the Saints her if she can get glad As Night
- 6:14Speaker 7: because that was like his favorite singer. So he thought
- 6:17Speaker 7: that was gonna be the final nail on the head.
- 6:19Speaker 1: It was too tall. He didn't know your guy.
- 6:24Speaker 7: So Gladys is from Atlanta and she went to high
- 6:26Speaker 7: school with my aunt. So when I called him, I said,
- 6:29Speaker 7: I got Gladys, what's next, what's up? He was like,
- 6:31Speaker 7: you're telling a lot I.
- 6:33Speaker 6: Was like, no, I'm not.
- 6:34Speaker 7: And so interestingly enough, that first year in nineteen ninety
- 6:36Speaker 7: nine in Miami, he said we're gonna do I said,
- 6:40Speaker 7: you want to do advanced ticket sales because the money,
- 6:42Speaker 7: a lot of the moneys go to charity, different charities,
- 6:45Speaker 7: and so I said, you want to do advanced ticket
- 6:47Speaker 7: sales because you know, church people really do come out
- 6:49Speaker 7: and support faith based consumers. And he was like, hmmm,
- 6:53Speaker 7: We're just gonna do a walk up and so he
- 6:55Speaker 7: prepared food. It was a blunch back then for three
- 6:57Speaker 7: hundred people, and four thousand people showed up, so everybody
- 7:01Speaker 7: had to be let in for free. And after that
- 7:03Speaker 7: they knew, okay, this is really culturally relevant for you know,
- 7:08Speaker 7: this consumer base.
- 7:09Speaker 6: And so that's what happened.
- 7:10Speaker 2: So what did y'all do with four thousand people with
- 7:12Speaker 2: only three three hundred plates of full.
- 7:14Speaker 7: Well, they did let the ones. They let everybody in free.
- 7:23Speaker 6: And that's and it was on the beach that year.
- 7:26Speaker 7: So that's how you know, we were limited in numbers
- 7:29Speaker 7: and seeding.
- 7:29Speaker 5: Do you feel like the social celebration gets as much
- 7:31Speaker 5: as exposure as it should.
- 7:34Speaker 7: I don't, and probably because I'm really passionate about about
- 7:38Speaker 7: whenever something is your baby, you think you could do more.
- 7:41Speaker 7: But I'm grateful that we have experienced so many wonderful
- 7:45Speaker 7: milestones over the years. We started out, we were broadcast
- 7:48Speaker 7: on like the Gospel Music Challenge. Then we went on
- 7:51Speaker 7: to be on BT for eight years. And I'm excited
- 7:54Speaker 7: because for the first time in our history and the
- 7:57Speaker 7: first time in Super Bowl's history, we will be on
- 8:01Speaker 7: the network that's carrying the game. Well, it will be
- 8:04Speaker 7: first time in the history of black owned event will
- 8:07Speaker 7: be on CBS the night before, in prime time, the
- 8:10Speaker 7: night before the game. And so I'm telling you I
- 8:13Speaker 7: give all the praise and honor because and I also
- 8:16Speaker 7: I'm so grateful that God put the team of people
- 8:20Speaker 7: who have supported this vision all these years, because if
- 8:23Speaker 7: it were up to me, it would have ended a
- 8:24Speaker 7: long time ago.
- 8:25Speaker 6: I couldn't carry this journey to the place.
- 8:27Speaker 4: They had and Melanie, it also helps that players are
- 8:29Speaker 4: more vocal about their faith nowadays.
- 8:30Speaker 1: You know, people don't realize.
- 8:32Speaker 4: I know it's a violent sport and you got helmets
- 8:34Speaker 4: knocking together and it's a lot of male bravado involved,
- 8:36Speaker 4: But you sit in that locker room, guys are praying
- 8:39Speaker 4: when they run out on the field, they run to
- 8:40Speaker 4: the end zone, drop it on a knee, and then
- 8:42Speaker 4: after the game they get together and pray together after
- 8:44Speaker 4: the battle. So you know, guys are now creating that
- 8:48Speaker 4: parallel between their careers and their walk.
- 8:50Speaker 1: So it's a beautiful thing.
- 8:52Speaker 4: And to have Melanie and this platform that she has
- 8:56Speaker 4: built for guys to say, yes, I am a man
- 8:59Speaker 4: of football, but first I'm a man of faith.
- 9:01Speaker 1: In this cross section that she has created as awesome.
- 9:04Speaker 5: One of your intentions made to like try to show
- 9:06Speaker 5: that players in a different light. Let people know that, Yo,
- 9:09Speaker 5: these are god fearing individual Yeah.
- 9:10Speaker 4: We all work in media and we know that sometimes
- 9:13Speaker 4: the stories that create the most engagement aren't the ones
- 9:17Speaker 4: that are the most flattering. So in order to combat
- 9:20Speaker 4: that in the way that I can is to show
- 9:22Speaker 4: the beautiful things that these guys are doing. And I
- 9:25Speaker 4: think there's a lot of players that either or men
- 9:28Speaker 4: of faith that seeing it, like the NFL players a
- 9:31Speaker 4: quirre or men that lead in their own ways in
- 9:34Speaker 4: their communities, and this is a spotlight for that.
- 9:37Speaker 3: I want to ask.
- 9:38Speaker 2: You know, back in the day, you wouldn't see as
- 9:40Speaker 2: many players praying. Was it something that the league was
- 9:43Speaker 2: against because you did you never seen it. I just
- 9:46Speaker 2: remember growing up as a kid watching the Giants. Whether
- 9:48Speaker 2: it was you know, Lawrence tailing them back there you
- 9:51Speaker 2: never seen them praying, or maybe TV just didn't show them.
- 9:53Speaker 4: I think it was I think it was more TV
- 9:57Speaker 4: wasn't showing them. You know, if a camera is panning
- 10:00Speaker 4: to guys on the sideline before a game, I think
- 10:03Speaker 4: they'd rather show a guy shedding a dramatic tear than
- 10:07Speaker 4: someone on the knee mumbling their prayer. I do feel
- 10:10Speaker 4: like the league has done a better job of showing
- 10:14Speaker 4: that there are men of faith in the NFL, and
- 10:16Speaker 4: there's also non believers too, But the spotlight that we
- 10:21Speaker 4: have to create is on us.
- 10:22Speaker 1: He's not on the league.
- 10:24Speaker 4: You know, we can't expect the league to highlight our
- 10:27Speaker 4: walk if we're shy about it. And I think nowadays
- 10:30Speaker 4: guys aren't shy about what they do off the field.
- 10:32Speaker 3: And who's performing this year, who we have on the lineup?
- 10:35Speaker 1: Do we know yet?
- 10:36Speaker 7: We haven't announced it yet, and that announcement is coming
- 10:39Speaker 7: from CBS, but it's going to be really bigger and
- 10:41Speaker 7: better than it's ever been. I will tell you, I
- 10:44Speaker 7: was so glad that Nate mentioned the NFL players Choir
- 10:47Speaker 7: because I don't know if you guys know this, that
- 10:49Speaker 7: is a There is a choir of former and current
- 10:52Speaker 7: players that can sing their faces off, and it's been
- 10:54Speaker 7: a blessing to take the helmet off and show that
- 10:57Speaker 7: there are guys that really have all this amazing talent.
- 11:00Speaker 7: You have a classically trained pianist in the group as
- 11:03Speaker 7: well as others, and they actually made the final, They
- 11:07Speaker 7: made the semi finals of America's Got Talent, And so
- 11:10Speaker 7: the shock value of players that can actually sing is
- 11:14Speaker 7: is really capturing singer?
- 11:18Speaker 4: No, no, not a poet, you know, a rapper, you
- 11:21Speaker 4: know what I mean. I got bars like that, but
- 11:22Speaker 4: I can't sing that. God, God can't bless me with everything.
- 11:30Speaker 5: God know your heart. He gave you that sense of humor.
- 11:34Speaker 5: You dropped a line of watches this year, too, rightnck Yeah, I.
- 11:37Speaker 4: Did something with Shaanola. It was a collaboration brand. You know,
- 11:40Speaker 4: it's a Detroit brand. I played ball in Detroit, so
- 11:43Speaker 4: I'm like an adopted son. Do a little bit of that.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Also have a clothing line. I got a suit line.
- 11:47Speaker 4: I gotta get you on some suits. I know, y'all,
- 11:49Speaker 4: all I need is your sizes.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I'm gonna hook you up. And my suitent's got the jog.
- 11:52Speaker 4: Abottom so you can rock it with the kicks.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Absolutely, Melanie.
- 11:57Speaker 5: Do you ever worry about being compared to like other
- 12:00Speaker 5: gospel shows like the Stellar Awards things like that, and
- 12:03Speaker 5: what separates you'all from.
- 12:05Speaker 6: Yeah, no, because it's room for everybody.
- 12:08Speaker 7: But I don't because what's different about this show is
- 12:11Speaker 7: we really put a focus on NFL players and their
- 12:14Speaker 7: stories and their testimonies, and so that's what makes us
- 12:17Speaker 7: stand out. And we don't have just gospel artists. Like
- 12:20Speaker 7: I said, We've had everybody from Anita Baker, Rita Franklin when.
- 12:23Speaker 6: She was alive, so we focused Fresh. We've had Dougie Fresh,
- 12:27Speaker 6: it was amazing.
- 12:28Speaker 7: Speaking of rapping, I think we need to hear some
- 12:30Speaker 7: bars from Night before.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, you got it.
- 12:36Speaker 4: And it's a rapoll poem. Now it's more of a poem.
- 12:39Speaker 4: First of all, I didn't know you was about to
- 12:41Speaker 4: do that.
- 12:42Speaker 1: So this isn't playing.
- 12:43Speaker 4: Yes, we talked, were talking gospel, so I gotta remove
- 12:46Speaker 4: the whole catalog of.
- 12:50Speaker 1: The secular stuff. I got something that's fitting.
- 12:55Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, there's an artist, his name is Andrew that
- 12:57Speaker 4: we've we've collaborated on something. So I've been working on
- 12:59Speaker 4: something fully baked out, but I'll see if I can
- 13:02Speaker 4: get it out. All right, This is the essence to
- 13:06Speaker 4: recognize his presence of the inception of every single blessing.
- 13:11Speaker 4: Blessed is the understatement. I know I'm highly favored. Now
- 13:14Speaker 4: look to the right. Go ahead and tell your neighbor.
- 13:16Speaker 1: God is good. God is good all the time, all
- 13:19Speaker 1: the time.
- 13:20Speaker 4: To the left, go ahead, repeat that line all the time.
- 13:24Speaker 4: Raised on the biblical but led by the spiritual. You
- 13:27Speaker 4: also shatrack me shacking the bendigo. In other words, Babylon
- 13:31Speaker 4: and to you and Babylon, I use my words like
- 13:34Speaker 4: birds to fly through each and every storm. The Bible
- 13:36Speaker 4: says that Daniel means God's gift. I can fish for myself,
- 13:40Speaker 4: but even these rods miss little something something, little something.
- 13:50Speaker 6: Now you want to know why we've chased him down.
- 13:53Speaker 5: And I'm sure that led to CBS airingot right, Yeah, no,
- 13:57Speaker 5: doub out a little bit. You have to go in
- 13:59Speaker 5: there and shake up, shake the table a little bit.
- 14:05Speaker 4: She shakes the table up around there, no, no, no, no,
- 14:09Speaker 4: Melanie actually made that happen. I think I was just
- 14:11Speaker 4: an added benefit that I worked for CBS.
- 14:14Speaker 1: Yeah, has the Super Bowl ish year?
- 14:18Speaker 3: Who's gonna be in the Super Bowl ash year?
- 14:21Speaker 4: It won't be your Giants. I'm gonna just tell you
- 14:23Speaker 4: the Cowboys, the Cowboy. You know the Cowboys are playing with.
- 14:28Speaker 4: If I'm looking at the NFC, I think the Cowboys
- 14:31Speaker 4: have a shot. Of course, the Eagles are balling, and
- 14:34Speaker 4: then the forty nine Ers. Those are my three teams
- 14:36Speaker 4: now out of the AFC. The Kansas City Chiefs are
- 14:39Speaker 4: still the top dogs. But look out for the Miami Dolphins.
- 14:43Speaker 4: Man down in Miami two a tongue of Vilo and
- 14:46Speaker 4: Tybriek Hill.
- 14:47Speaker 1: They are cooking up something.
- 14:49Speaker 5: You think, Aaron Rodgers, you should play this season? If
- 14:51Speaker 5: the doctors give him the green.
- 14:52Speaker 4: Lake as a player who's been injured, I say no.
- 14:56Speaker 4: But Aaron Rodgers doesn't care what I think or other
- 14:59Speaker 4: people think. I don't think he's coming back because he's
- 15:02Speaker 4: getting paid a certain amount of money. I don't think
- 15:04Speaker 4: he's coming back because he thinks suggests can make the playoffs.
- 15:06Speaker 1: I think he's coming back for.
- 15:08Speaker 4: A majority of his career, he has done what people
- 15:10Speaker 4: said he couldn't do. Maybe that's ego, Maybe that's bravado.
- 15:14Speaker 4: Maybe that's the mindset of one of the greats. They
- 15:16Speaker 4: all have it where they have this switch in their
- 15:18Speaker 4: hair what they think, even though you tell me I
- 15:20Speaker 4: can't do it, I'm gonna do it to prove you wrong.
- 15:23Speaker 1: I bet you that's a part of it.
- 15:24Speaker 4: I'm not speaking for him, but as an athlete on
- 15:26Speaker 4: the outside looking in, and that's what he's doing. For
- 15:28Speaker 4: him to have this surgery, which is typically a nine
- 15:30Speaker 4: to twelve month injury, and he's back in a couple
- 15:34Speaker 4: of months, that's crazy.
- 15:36Speaker 5: Have things changed that much in regards to how people
- 15:38Speaker 5: will treat acls.
- 15:39Speaker 4: That achilles and typically the normal surgery he would have
- 15:44Speaker 4: been out the whole season would have been done, but
- 15:47Speaker 4: he had some type of new procedure that allows his
- 15:51Speaker 4: body to heal differently. But I'll tell you this, though,
- 15:53Speaker 4: I think there's something that's sick and twisted about athletes.
- 15:57Speaker 4: When Adrian Peterson towards Aco, he came back in like
- 15:59Speaker 4: five six month and we praised him and this dude's
- 16:02Speaker 4: an alien and we love that. Like I to ac
- 16:05Speaker 4: I was trying to get back, and I wanted to people.
- 16:07Speaker 4: I wanted people to whisper and say, man, he came
- 16:09Speaker 4: back so fast and look at him.
- 16:10Speaker 1: He still got the juice. He can run, jump and
- 16:12Speaker 1: do all the things he used to do.
- 16:14Speaker 4: I think there's a part of athletes that want to
- 16:17Speaker 4: defy the odds I want. I think Aaron Rodgers wants
- 16:20Speaker 4: people to whisper, Yo, look at him. Dude, ain't from
- 16:23Speaker 4: this earth the way he came back from that Achilles.
- 16:25Speaker 4: Because there's so many things he can hold onto this year.
- 16:28Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna win a super Bowl. Nope,
- 16:30Speaker 4: he's not going to break any records. He's not gonna
- 16:32Speaker 4: catch Tom Brady when it comes to Super Bowls. But
- 16:35Speaker 4: he can put this on his discount double belt and
- 16:38Speaker 4: say I came back from Achilles faster than any other
- 16:42Speaker 4: athlete in history.
- 16:44Speaker 1: I think that's why he's playing. Wow.
- 16:46Speaker 2: And what I wanted to ask with the NFL, right, Yeah,
- 16:49Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of players get hurt, try
- 16:52Speaker 2: not to hurt other players.
- 16:53Speaker 1: Yeah, no, goa happen.
- 16:54Speaker 3: So what do you think about that?
- 16:55Speaker 2: And of course when it comes to people say they
- 16:58Speaker 2: soften it up, even with the with the quarterback, and
- 17:00Speaker 2: I feel like even when they play with the quarterback,
- 17:02Speaker 2: like the quarterback fake slide and keep running, but the
- 17:04Speaker 2: players don't want to hit him and it kind of
- 17:06Speaker 2: messes up the games.
- 17:07Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on the NFL loosening up some
- 17:09Speaker 3: of those doors.
- 17:09Speaker 4: Yeah, you know your stuff, man, You know what I'm saying.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Even though I've seen you in the football jersey, you
- 17:13Speaker 4: didn't really fill it out.
- 17:14Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 17:15Speaker 3: I play for.
- 17:19Speaker 1: The way Yeah kills out the jersey. Yeah.
- 17:23Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why he's demanded hoseat your mouth.
- 17:28Speaker 4: You know what, That's a really good question because the
- 17:30Speaker 4: rules have changed so much to protect the players that
- 17:33Speaker 4: as a wide receiver, I'm running across the middle, I
- 17:36Speaker 4: know that you can't hit me because I'm a defenseless player.
- 17:39Speaker 4: So if I go out for the ball and it's
- 17:41Speaker 4: not there yet and you take me out, a flag
- 17:42Speaker 4: is up. Now as a defender, the whole mindset is different.
- 17:46Speaker 4: Your gaze of the play is that I am going
- 17:48Speaker 4: to try to hit him to knock this ball out,
- 17:51Speaker 4: but I can't get there before him, so I have
- 17:52Speaker 4: to let him catch it and then react. And if
- 17:55Speaker 4: you're aiming right here, but all of a sudden, I
- 17:58Speaker 4: get scared and dug damn on. Now your helmet's hitting
- 18:01Speaker 4: my helmet. Whose fault is it? What it looks like
- 18:03Speaker 4: it's yours, right helmet to helmet. That defender was wrong,
- 18:07Speaker 4: but in reality, I count a little bit and I
- 18:10Speaker 4: changed my target, so that accidentally led to a flag
- 18:14Speaker 4: and maybe a penalty and then also a fine. Now
- 18:17Speaker 4: you have defenders that have to think about all that
- 18:19Speaker 4: in a split second, and most of them are like,
- 18:21Speaker 4: you know what, I'm not gonna try to knock this
- 18:24Speaker 4: dude out or knock the ball out because if I do,
- 18:28Speaker 4: I can get fined, I can get kicked out of
- 18:30Speaker 4: the game, and that sometimes leads to him being injured.
- 18:35Speaker 1: As an offensive player.
- 18:36Speaker 4: I feel bad for defenders now because I can run
- 18:40Speaker 4: free and do whatever I want. Now, their second guess
- 18:43Speaker 4: in what makes them good, which is the impact.
- 18:46Speaker 3: And even with the quarterbacks, like I've seen quarterbacks fake
- 18:49Speaker 3: slide right.
- 18:50Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, Dan Jones did that. I think
- 18:52Speaker 4: that's a fake slide and kept running. That's a problem
- 18:54Speaker 4: because you know you fake slide. Basically you're saying, don't
- 18:57Speaker 4: hit me. I'm giving myself up.
- 18:58Speaker 1: Which defenders have to fit his to So.
- 19:00Speaker 3: Now you fake slide. I'm about to give up, but
- 19:02Speaker 3: you keep running.
- 19:03Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's a little trickeration right there.
- 19:07Speaker 4: I think they'll address that this off season, you know,
- 19:10Speaker 4: because you can't as a quarterback look at the defender
- 19:13Speaker 4: and act as if you're going to face slide and
- 19:15Speaker 4: then everybody lets up on the play.
- 19:17Speaker 3: As if it's It's like flopping in the NBA.
- 19:19Speaker 4: No doubt it's like flopping in the NBA. But I
- 19:21Speaker 4: think these things will be addressed. As much as I
- 19:23Speaker 4: want guys to be protected, because I'm all for guys
- 19:26Speaker 4: getting as much money as they can from the league
- 19:28Speaker 4: and then walking away healthy. I do feel like that
- 19:32Speaker 4: old school grittiness that makes the game fun to watch.
- 19:36Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely. You also recently talked about about with depression.
- 19:41Speaker 1: Yeah, do you.
- 19:42Speaker 5: Think NFL and teams do enough to help players who
- 19:45Speaker 5: may be dealing with, you know, depression and other mental
- 19:47Speaker 5: health issues.
- 19:47Speaker 4: I think they're doing a better job because players have
- 19:50Speaker 4: spoke up. Players have battled with mental health issues, not
- 19:55Speaker 4: just in the off season, but as they retire and
- 19:58Speaker 4: shout out to Yesterdyear, the older generation.
- 20:01Speaker 1: They played in an era where it was.
- 20:04Speaker 4: Taboo for guys to talk about things like this, and
- 20:07Speaker 4: some of us, some of them, are no longer with us,
- 20:10Speaker 4: and as young puffs in the league, we paid attention
- 20:13Speaker 4: to all of those who came before us.
- 20:15Speaker 1: We heard the stories.
- 20:17Speaker 4: We heard about guys like Junior Seau, who were well
- 20:20Speaker 4: respected Hall of famers, ended up taking his life. So
- 20:23Speaker 4: for us now in the league, in a society that welcomes,
- 20:28Speaker 4: that embraces that says, all right, come here, we'll give
- 20:31Speaker 4: you a warm hug of mental health conversation, the NFL
- 20:34Speaker 4: has embraced it. Some teams even have a therapist on
- 20:38Speaker 4: staff that they have an open door to walk into
- 20:42Speaker 4: on a weekly daily basis if they need to. You
- 20:46Speaker 4: can always do a better job, not just the NFL,
- 20:48Speaker 4: but in our workplace in general. But what I do know,
- 20:51Speaker 4: and I'm super proud of guys in the league for,
- 20:54Speaker 4: is that they're not afraid to talk about it. People
- 20:57Speaker 4: think that a locker room was full of grade A
- 21:01Speaker 4: AHOs and we don't talk about mental health. We're not inclusive.
- 21:05Speaker 4: It's not the case. I've been in a few different
- 21:07Speaker 4: locker rooms over the course of my career and we
- 21:11Speaker 4: were embracing of everything, whether it was your sexual identity,
- 21:15Speaker 4: sexual preference, your religion, your race, your culture, even your
- 21:18Speaker 4: bouts with mental health. And as long as I'm on
- 21:21Speaker 4: TV and have a platform, I'm gonna continue to talk
- 21:23Speaker 4: about it, not just for the players, but also for
- 21:27Speaker 4: my kids. I got a nineteen year old shout Out
- 21:29Speaker 4: the Little Nate, a seventeen year old Nehemia, and my
- 21:32Speaker 4: daughter's thirteen. I want them to be able to come
- 21:34Speaker 4: to me, shed a tear, I'll cry with them and
- 21:37Speaker 4: then we can get over it together. So I gotta
- 21:39Speaker 4: walk the walk if I want to talk to talk.
- 21:40Speaker 3: Do you kids play football?
- 21:41Speaker 1: Yeah? My two oldest play play football.
- 21:43Speaker 4: I got my older son plays wide receiver at University
- 21:46Speaker 4: of Nevada scholarship athlete, and then my seventeen year old
- 21:49Speaker 4: just finished the season at Ramapo. They lost in the
- 21:51Speaker 4: championship game. My daughter plays volleyball, but my boys do
- 21:54Speaker 4: play football.
- 21:55Speaker 3: Did you want them to?
- 21:56Speaker 2: Because a lot of parents that play, a lot of
- 21:58Speaker 2: professional players don't want their kids to play for.
- 22:00Speaker 4: I wanted them to, but I didn't push them to.
- 22:03Speaker 4: And I wasn't afraid of the injuries because I knew
- 22:06Speaker 4: if they played sports. Whether it was football, basketball, track,
- 22:10Speaker 4: or whatever, it's inevitable. There was a one hundred percent
- 22:13Speaker 4: injury rate in sports. It's an inevitability that you will
- 22:17Speaker 4: get banged up. The severity of it depends on the
- 22:19Speaker 4: type of sport you're playing. Now, my boys have had
- 22:22Speaker 4: significant injuries. I remember my oldest when he was sophomore.
- 22:28Speaker 4: I get a call and they're like, you got to
- 22:31Speaker 4: come to practice now. It was his little brother who
- 22:34Speaker 4: was playing on the younger team. This is high school
- 22:36Speaker 4: and I already knew my stomach dropped. We get there
- 22:40Speaker 4: and the trainer walks up to us with a soft
- 22:42Speaker 4: voice and says he heard his arm he got rolled
- 22:45Speaker 4: up on. It was accidental. And then they bring him over.
- 22:48Speaker 4: Hees tears in his eyes, but he's not crying, and
- 22:51Speaker 4: I'm like, so tell me about it. They're like, well,
- 22:52Speaker 4: I think he broke his arm. How bad is it?
- 22:55Speaker 4: They wouldn't really say, And I know what that means.
- 22:57Speaker 4: That means it's way worse than they're letting it off.
- 23:01Speaker 4: So we get in the car and as soon as
- 23:03Speaker 4: we start hitting those bumps on the way to the hospital,
- 23:04Speaker 4: my son is crying, ball in his eyes out everybody
- 23:08Speaker 4: in the car is crying. I'll never forget this conversation
- 23:11Speaker 4: because as he is crying, he says, I never want
- 23:14Speaker 4: to play this sport again.
- 23:15Speaker 1: I'm done.
- 23:15Speaker 4: Why is this always me? He had a few injuries
- 23:17Speaker 4: before that, and he's like, f this sport. And I
- 23:21Speaker 4: repeated him. I said, the sport that football. You don't
- 23:23Speaker 4: ever have to play football. I said, this is about you.
- 23:26Speaker 4: When you heal up, we can walk away from the
- 23:28Speaker 4: sport forever. And that stuck with me because I thought
- 23:31Speaker 4: my son would never pick up a football again. At
- 23:33Speaker 4: his surgery, played some screws, held up rehab. Six months later,
- 23:38Speaker 4: he's back on that field, finished the season, So it
- 23:41Speaker 4: was his decision.
- 23:42Speaker 1: Was his decision right, So I leave it up to
- 23:44Speaker 1: my kids.
- 23:46Speaker 4: I feel like there's more benefits than there are negatives. One,
- 23:50Speaker 4: whether it's injuries, not playing, getting bench, you're gonna have
- 23:54Speaker 4: to deal with stuff in life. It's parallels everything we
- 23:56Speaker 4: go through football is also this. Michael Cosmo, what what
- 24:01Speaker 4: society is a lot of people can't coexist with their coworkers.
- 24:05Speaker 1: In football.
- 24:06Speaker 4: You got fifty something dudes on the roster, all from
- 24:09Speaker 4: different walks of life. The common goal is to win.
- 24:11Speaker 4: If you can do that, by the time you get
- 24:13Speaker 4: to college and walk into the American workforce, you'll be good.
- 24:17Speaker 4: You'll you'll make life more about others than it is
- 24:20Speaker 4: about you.
- 24:20Speaker 1: That's why I left football.
- 24:21Speaker 2: Oh all right, we appreciate you guys. Tell them whe
- 24:25Speaker 2: they can see the Super Bowl soul Full celebration. And
- 24:28Speaker 2: it's sad because I go to the Super Bowl most
- 24:29Speaker 2: of the time every year. Honestly, I didn't know about it.
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- 24:40Speaker 7: You know, it used to be on Thursday, but we
- 24:42Speaker 7: do Wednesday, so we have extra time to edit and
- 24:44Speaker 7: make it right. And now that we're on CBS, we
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- 24:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
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