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Will KYLE TUCKER signing with the DODGERS lead to an MLB lockout? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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Rules, rules, rules that we we've covered in this and I
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haven't got my Nebraska in yet, but we're going to get Nebraska
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basketball in on this Java rules.
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By the way, we are 18 and O we are, we have won our last 22
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We are the highest ranking that we've ever had at this
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university at #7 before that it was 1966 that we were ranked #8
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rules because we are in the top ten and nobody had ever thought
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Nebraska would be a basketball school.
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And I stand on Nebraska and I always will.
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And now I have something to root for because our football team
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has let me down for a lot of years.
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Go. Share a Pew Tang pie with the.
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Rock You guys. Watch our team play.
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Yes, I've been watching. I I've seen a few this year not
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not as much as I usually watch college basketball.
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I haven't watched as much this year but I I saw in the recent
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bracketology you guys were a three seed.
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Yeah, some of us, they have us in one in the Midwest.
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We got a tough, we got a tough stretch.
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We got Washington tomorrow and then we go Michigan, Illinois or
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we go Minnesota on the road, which Minnesota's record isn't
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great, but they've been in games with Michigan.
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They were ahead of Michigan and then we got Michigan at home,
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then we got to play Illinois at our our place.
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Then we got Rutgers, which that'll be a dub.
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And then we've got Purdue. So it's it's going to be it's
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going to be a stretch, but we have never won.
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And like I said in what's your call?
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And you know I'm going to get a booty lick because we've never
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won. I never heard of a skin flute.
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And it's, it's going to happen, and I love it.
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And one of Carter's buddies probably won't win freshman of
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the year, but he's going to be a freshman All American #5 Braden
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Frager. So if you guys watch a game,
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watch him. No.
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And so, yeah, he hooped with Carter.
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And so it's fun. So we're vested.
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And it's cool to see when you don't expect a program like
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that. And it's always nice.
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I wouldn't say Cinderella because Fred Hoiberg is done
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with Iowa State. Wasn't the best with the Bulls.
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I'll give him that. Wasn't that?
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Wasn't great in the tournament too.
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I know I picked them a lot and with Iowa saves or not.
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So yeah, So what? We're the only school that's
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never won a game in March Madness.
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Wow. And like I said, it is
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documented. It's going to happen.
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Speaking of happened ESP NS Jeff.
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Pisson. Jeff Passan reports that the
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Dodgers have signed Kyle Tucker to a four year, $240 million
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deal. The deal includes $30 million in
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deferred money, opts out after opt outs after Year 2 and Year 3
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and has an average annual value of 57.1 million per year,
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breaking Mr. Juan Sotos record of 51 million per year.
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The Dodgers also gave Tucker a signing bonus of 64,000,000 and
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a $54 million. Fifty, $4 million of that will
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be paid up front. ESP NS Kylie McDaniel reports
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that the Blue Jays offered him a 11 year, $418 million deal, and
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we're the only team that offered him a deal more than five years.
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McDaniel adds that the Mets were willing to sign Tucker for $50
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million per year, but many baseball executives never
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believed that Tucker wanted to play in New York.
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Well, here's the facts guys. This is a catastrophe.
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It's bad. And I know Jabba is going to be
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behind it and argue this, that, hey, you know what?
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Actually, this way you finish, but you're going to, you're
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going to be surprised with what I tell you.
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The deferred money thing needs to change.
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This is ruined the game of baseball.
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It really has. And as much as a lot of people
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say, well, guess what, it's been in baseball for a long time, I
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believe the Dodgers have perfected it.
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I think the Dodgers have figured out a way to use this to their
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advantage to hurt everybody else but themselves.
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And I think that you look at this Tucker move and there's a
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lot of questions to it. And they had a lot of
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deficiencies out of the out in the outfield, a lot of
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weaknesses. Now they don't.
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They had one of the best power hitters at in the outfield.
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Now in Kyle Tucker, who can defend.
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He can play multiple positions out there.
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Not the best defender, but a guy that can absolutely defend at
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that position. I, I think to me, when you look
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at Edwin Diaz and all the, the, the offseason moves, you wonder
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if baseball needs to step in. I don't know if there's going to
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be a salary cap. I, I do believe there is going
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to be a baseball strike. I think the owners are going to
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step in and do something about this.
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I think the Dodgers have put themselves in a position where
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they can win another title and obviously right off into the
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sunset when they does go on strike, after this year, when
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the strike is going to allow the league to decide if they're
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going to continue playing or are they going to sit out for a
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significant amount of time. I I think this hurts baseball.
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I do. And the fact is, is that he
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didn't want to go to New York. He didn't want to deal with the
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New York press, the media. He's a quiet guy.
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He played for the Astros. He went to the Cubs.
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Even though the Cubs are a loud organization, they're not as bad
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of a media place than New York. And the Blue Jays are just not a
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very good organization. I know what they did last year.
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I know a lot of people think, oh, they're making moves now.
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And they signed their big time bopper.
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They gave him that extension. That really will settle, settle
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in as we watch it, as it gets heavier and in the next 5 to 6
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years and put them in a drought of just absolute turbulence.
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The the Blue Jays had the chance to win and they failed.
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They were never getting a Tucker.
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They were never. It was either the Yankees step
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in and offer him a boatload of money because the Yankees, I
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think he would have bought into it because it is the Yankees.
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It's pinstripes. Or was the Dodgers.
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I, I, I was surprised that he didn't choose the Mets.
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But let's be honest, the Mets are a stupid organization, a
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losing organization hasn't won since 1986.
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Why would he go to an organization that fails to get
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the right players and everything that they've done so far?
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If you look, if you were, if you were Tucker right now and you
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watch the moves that the Mets made and you look at Polanco
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moving the first base who's never played that position
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before in in his life, does that bode well for the New York Mets
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going into a season? The answer would be no.
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Kyle Tucker had no interest. I guess I thought Kyle Tucker
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was going to the Mets. It made a lot of sense. 50
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something, $1,000,000. He was going to get a lot of
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money and the Mets were going to give him what he wanted it.
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It was never going to happen. So my take on the Kyle Tucker
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thing, because we have the Beau Bouchette thing after you guys,
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your, your take is this is a catastrophe for the league.
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The league needs to do something during the strike time.
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They need to step in and figure out how to control this deferred
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money. I wrote an article article about
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this job. I sent it to you.
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I sent it to a lot of guys. I think baseball needs to look
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at what I kind of like put and implemented in when I was in
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Montreal and look at it that way for it to help the game and
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define the understanding what deferred money can or shouldn't
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do for a team. Yeah, it's interesting because I
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thought for once Bregman was signing with the Cubs.
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I always thought, I always thought Cubs were going to get
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Tucker back anyway, but I thought even more incentive for
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them to try to be creative and get either more deferred money
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or like the daughters did an extra signing bonus, stuff like
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that. There's ways to manipulate
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contracts that maybe you don't realize just because of the
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payroll discrepancies. Just because MLB doesn't have a
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salary cap, you're looking at the NFL.
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How can we manipulate the cap? We joke about with the Saints
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all the time. They've been manipulating the
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cap for 10 years now. They're in debt.
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And the the the Cubs, I thought had a good leeway to do that.
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And the Blue Jays, because of the way that they could defer
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money. And you saw the Blue Jays do
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with Cease and it looked like there was finally a direction to
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go in. And then all of a sudden we go
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back to this now. And all of a sudden the Dodgers
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are just taking back over where, yeah, maybe there's a spawning
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point where there has to be some restrictions with how either how
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much you can defer, how many players can be deferred at this
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point. Because as long as there's no
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salary cap, I don't think you're going to have that rule
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completely taken away because there's enough guys already
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dealing with it. But there has to be restrictions
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on it. The Dodgers, maybe because they
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already have six or seven guys on it, can't do it for another
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five years. They're going to be doing this
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favour. Yeah, and that's where it's
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tricky. Like what?
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What rule makes sense to be fair to both parties?
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What rule makes? Sense we will never see another
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World Series champion if this continues to be allowed to be
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going on in baseball. The Dodgers are always going to
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be in the driving seat to get whoever and whatever they want
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because what they're doing is they have talked to these
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players. These players understand what
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they're trying to do and how they're doing it.
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And it's it's working because they've got everybody buying
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into it. A whole organization needs to
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buy into this for the to work. It's not working.
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Everybody says, well, all the other organizations could do it.
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Not necessarily when all the other players are not buying
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into it. They're buying into it.
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They had Mookie Betts, they had Friedman, they have all these
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guys, Ohtani. Everybody's buying into this
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move, Snell, everybody because they have a chance.
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Hey, listen, you're still going to get your money, You're still
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going to win, still have a chance to do it in the bright
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lights of LA and you're still going to get the money at the
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tail end of your career anyway. So you guys are going to be
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laughing all the way to the bank and making all the endorsements
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because we're going to be winning.
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And Tucker's case is different I think because 60 million I think
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was above any worth expectations of the market value of how long
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it took him sign too. And Tucker is another one, like
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a lot of the other guys besides Freeman, who was obviously
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traded over there, weren't ring chasing at that time because
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Otani obviously never played in the playoffs.
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And all the other guys were Japanese comb overs.
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And Tucker signed this one for the money, I think, exclusively
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and all the signing bonuses and all that stuff, but still going
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to the Dodgers. He was getting more with the
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Blue Jays. He signed.
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He signed for winning a championship wins.
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That's all he signed for and he knows he's going to get money
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one way or another. He can opt out of it after his
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second or third year if he doesn't want to be there, he's
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not getting enough playing time or they're treating him like
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crap. He can opt out and he still
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gets, you know, a boatload of money right up front.
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He is living at large and the and and the Dodgers could do
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this because they have, you know, finagled money to, you
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know, hideaway for the next 12 years.
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Thank you to Otani and and all the other doofuses.
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So I, I just, it hurts baseball. I don't care what anybody says,
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it hurts baseball. And the reason I say it's about
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because I just think the market value is that much higher.
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I think the Blue Jays was probably slightly above the
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market value. The total money obviously was
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more before 18, but with the AAV, that's a lot.
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All right, Java, you're up. Fire away at the deferred money.
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I took a step back, honestly, and I really tried to look at
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what the game is as it stands. And I sat on this for a minute
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and I've thought about what you guys have said, Ariel,
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especially where I'm kind of I'm in a rock and a hard place,
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honestly. And if I'm being perfectly
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honest, where I understand what they're doing.
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And you're chasing championships.
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I I I get that. And at the end of the day, what
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do you want to you? You want to have a legacy of
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winning. Yeah, you can have a lot of
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money in your bank account, but that only goes so far.
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If you truly love this game, what do you want to do?
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You want to win. And so why in between a rock and
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a hard spot is because when it comes down to winning, where do
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you want to go? That's an easy answer.
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Are they hurting the game, the aspect of what they do?
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Yeah. They're paying two guys more
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money than 10 whole organizations.
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They're paying $186.5 million in luxury tax.
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Can we can we kind of change that?
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We've kind of seen it in the past with the Marlins when they
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weren't paying any money. And then they they had that year
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where they signed Burley and Jose Reyes.
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And we've seen how that worked. But they were just doing it
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because they were kind of their hand was forced to do it.
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But I think what this does, and I don't think you're wrong,
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Errol, I think this is pushing towards a lockout because what
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are you really doing? Like if everybody's just going
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to go there and take all the deferred money?
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I don't think deferred money is wrong.
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But Speedy, I think you, you kind of touched on it a little
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bit where it's like, OK, you can have five, you can have 4,
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whatever that number is. I don't know what the magical
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potion is of figuring this out. It's the.
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Same thing we talked about with the colleges, like how much you
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defer to 1 program versus the other.
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Right. And so for me, it's like, do you
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have a salary cap or do you have a salary floor?
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Like how how do you defer those things in what they do?
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And I'm a baseball to and through with everything.
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And is Kyle Tucker a $60 million player?
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I said this, he's not. But I'll never fault to do for
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taking his money and get the bag and and take it all the way to
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the bank. But when you're an outside guy
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just looking at it and it's like, oh, they're just doing
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this. They're paying to.
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And that's truly genuine. They are.
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But you also want to have that legacy of winning and being a
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part of something special. But I think it is really hurting
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the game in the way the game is perceived now because we're
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trying to create a younger audience.
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And it's it's solely devoted now to money.
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Where I think the caveat for me, where baseball is pure, you play
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it because you love it and you have those guys.
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You look at the air and judges of the world took less money
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when he could have got more money.
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And that's where the part of it it's like I always I, I want
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everybody to make as much money as they can take care of their
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family, take care of their grandkids long time.
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But what it takes away from what my love is for this game is the
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authenticity of it. And for me it's it's it's
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starting to be taken away. And I don't like that.
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I don't like the fact that I'm like, holy crap, this lineup is
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the best lineup we've ever seen. I mean, we can talk Murderers
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Row. We can talk all kinds of
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lineups. But when you look at what these
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guys are in their value of what they could be for each
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individual team, and I know people are going to argue that
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they didn't want to give Freddie a six year deal.
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They didn't want to, you know, pay Mookie.
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He left Boston and like we can give all these exams well.
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Freeman Freeman, The Braves got robbed because their agent
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didn't tell him the Braves offer.
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I think Freddie said he would have matched it if they gave him
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the same offer. Yeah.
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And but they're doing things that everybody obviously says
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that everybody can do. And yes, it's been going on a
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long time. But you said it, Errol.
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It's like they found the perfect way to do it and created like we
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creating video games when we were kids.
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You create a dynasty. They're a video game right now.
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They're a damn video game. That is what it is.
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And it's I, I feel like, and I've never thought I would say
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this, I feel like it's taking away the integrity of the game.
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And I hate that because I love the parody.
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I love dark horses, I love the Cinderella story, I love all
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that stuff. But it's hard to combat that
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when you see a dynasty lineup and you've got multiple MVPS,
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quite possibly the best player in the world that we've ever
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seen, and they're all on one team.
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So for me as a player, I go against that.
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It's like, what the hell am I supposed to do?
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And I think it it it they need to find a way to combat this.
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I think speedy, I think that might be a thing.
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I think it's going to be a lock up.
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Do I think we lose the entire 27 season?
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I hope not. But if they don't find a way to
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be like, OK, you can defer money.
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You obviously can't backtrack now.
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You can't like, so whatever it is, but OK, if so, the Dodgers
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are at that limit. OK, you can't defer any more
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money. OK, now this team.
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So is it 4? Is it 5?
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Or is there a certain money amount to?
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Or yeah. And like we've talked about with
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with college and, and how we do that.
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And I was sitting here and just reading stories and I was just
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kind of shaking my head because never thought I would feel this
20:25
way because I love what baseball is at its at its soul and at its
20:32
heart. But I think it's changing and
20:36
the integrity of the game has changed.
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And now it it's it's solely focused on different things than
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what this game should be focused on.
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And that hurts my heart a little bit because I love this game
20:51
near and dear, you know, and it provides every day I get to walk
20:56
my son. And it's Kyle Tucker's a great
20:59
player. All these guys are great players
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getting this money. How long is it going to take?
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Paul Skeens gets a free agency. Paul Skeens is a billion dollar
21:09
player. If we're basing it on right now,
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because these guys, Kyle Tucker's getting $60 million,
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essentially. Otani's getting 70, which I will
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agree, Otani probably should get more than everybody because he
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does two things that nobody else does.
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But when you have all of these deferred and we've seen
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Bregman's contract, Bregman's was a little bit deferred, but
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the integrity of the game has changed because the way that
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they can do things. I just think it's going to be an
21:45
argument when it comes to the next CBA of how do we maintain
21:53
the integrity of the game where we don't have shit to talk about
21:58
during baseball? Because it's like, all right, I
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know the game's not played on paper, and I've said that
22:02
before, but realistically, if we're going right now, who the
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Hell's beating the Dodgers? Like.
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Nobody who it is they're. Training staff, I will say this
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and I. Themselves, that's the only
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thing that's going to beat them is somebody they them getting
22:17
hurt. Speaking of a team that got
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screwed is the Mets and they signed Beau Bichette to a
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three-year, $126 million deal with a player option for a year
22:26
one and year 2, no deferred money and an average annual of
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42,000,000 per year. Reports say that the Phillies
22:33
were ready to give Bob Pichette A7 year $200 million deal and
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Dave Dabrowski was blindsided by the Mets and made a panic move
22:43
to steal him. Both the Dodgers and the Mets
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are are over the luxury tax threshold and the Mets payroll
22:52
is 414 million and the Dodgers are 571,000,000, meaning that
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the Mets would have to pay $95 million in penalties and the
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Dodgers would have to pay 120 million in penalties.
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Here's what I'm going to say quickly about this.
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I don't know what the Mets organization is doing.
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I don't know what David Stearns is doing.
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I I have no idea if, if you're a Mets fan, you cannot be happy
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with this contract. This guy, Beau Bichette, who
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can't stay healthy, is making more money than average Judge,
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who is arguably the best player in the league right now.
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Think about that. This man is making more than
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Aaron Judge and Aaron Judge was. How many MVPS has he won?
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I mean, this guy's never won and MVP, he's never done anything.
23:35
And as good as his father was and as good as he is in some
23:39
parts of his game, this guy does not deserve 42,000,000 a year.
23:43
Now, I'm not going to question the money that he's getting.
23:45
I'm not going to question any of that.
23:47
The Mets brought in not one, not 2, not 3, but four infielders
23:52
this offseason and they're going to move two of them to the
23:55
outfield. One of them never played one
23:57
position in the infield. And Polanco at first.
24:00
What is David Stearns doing? What is it going to take for
24:05
Met, the Mets organization and Uncle Stevie to realize that
24:09
this guy is a screw up? He is.
24:11
He doesn't have a game plan. He's just bringing in players
24:14
that makes sense. And if he, if he hits, he's
24:17
going to be a genius. If he misses, he should be
24:19
fired. But because he's a butt buddy,
24:21
if Dave, Uncle Stevie, he's going to keep his job.
24:24
This is a bad, bad thing. Met fans.
24:27
You cannot sit here and tell me Beau Bichette is a slam dunk.
24:30
He can't stay healthy. He's an overpriced, overpaid
24:34
infielder who is now going to be moved to the outfield to which
24:37
he's never played before in his career.
24:39
It makes no sense. It's an absolute joke.
24:42
And the Mets should be really being smacked.
24:45
They should be smacked in the face because they failed to get
24:47
Tucker so they reached on Beau Bichette.
24:49
Yeah, we even heard it last week from Laura Albany.
24:52
She was like, oh, the Mets have 900 outfield infielders and only
24:55
two outfielders. 2 outfielders. But she was sticking up for them
24:58
because she's a writer and she's a beat.
25:00
OK, but she did mention that the extremity is a big difference
25:03
where you haven't signed. Besides Devin Williams, any
25:06
other like pictures of any notoriety in this offseason?
25:09
Even Devin Williams is coming off a bad year.
25:11
You got all these infielders. 2 guys are not going to be playing
25:14
out of place, whether it's Bichette, which is probably
25:16
going to be him out of place playing third, or Bob Bouchette
25:19
experiments in the outfit. I know Java, you did mention
25:21
that maybe it works, but again, you're banking $42 million on
25:24
that. Yeah.
25:25
Dave Dombrowski, I hate to praise him 'cause I don't think
25:27
he's great either, but he's right in this sense.
25:29
Like, why can't? Why wouldn't the Mets let the
25:32
Phillies, who've already paid a lot in their own infield as it
25:34
is, give Bichette 7 years, 200 million when they have Trey
25:37
Turner, a bunch of other guys in these big contracts when the
25:40
Mets could get two? I'm not saying amazing pitchers,
25:43
but two decent starting pitchers at 20 and 25,000,000 a year.
25:47
It just doesn't make any sense. And you're going to hope that
25:49
these guys can pitch for strikeouts because their infield
25:51
defense is not. Going to be horrible, horrible
25:54
move for the New York Mets. They're going.
25:57
To I think, I think it's you said panic move or whatever.
26:01
And then Dave came out and said we're good with what we are
26:04
right now. I think it was it was weird on
26:09
on a lot of levels for me. The consistency factor that he's
26:14
going to make more than Francisco Lindor doesn't really
26:18
make sense to me because he hasn't been on the field enough
26:21
to prove. And then now he's going to go
26:23
out of position because he came out and that that's part of the
26:26
reason because he knew he wasn't going to get the money playing
26:29
the position. That's why he said I'm open to
26:32
playing second base wherever. Hopefully.
26:37
And for you as the Mets fan, Speedy, I'm sorry, but you're
26:41
not going to get your value in what he is because he has not
26:44
proven it. He came out at the right time.
26:47
Timing is a lot of things. We've looked, we've seen a lot
26:49
of guys do this. Have a great year.
26:51
Carbovano from the Twins to the Yankees, getting the $45 million
26:55
deal, like he was not great, but he had a, he had a great out
26:59
year. And that's what if you have a
27:01
great out year and, and your crowd is low because it was
27:05
outfielders and you had Bregman and then as Bichette and then it
27:09
was pitchers. So you, you are a different
27:12
commodity. And if and if you think about
27:15
stocks and trading, well, if you're a hot commodity that
27:19
there's nothing else going in, you're going to get that is, is
27:23
he, is he worth 42,000,000? No.
27:27
And I don't talk. I'm not talking trash that he's
27:29
not a great player because he is.
27:32
He's in the big leagues, but he's not 42.
27:35
I'll say the same thing by Kyle Tucker.
27:37
He's not 60. Do they deserve to get paid?
27:40
Yes. Are there a lot of guys that
27:41
should get paid that amount that are way better that aren't
27:44
getting paid that? Yes.
27:46
Java, think about this. I know you like this guy, so I
27:49
know you would want the Mets to pay him.
27:50
Framber Valdez, you pay him 30 something million a year and
27:53
then you pay Zach Gallanter saying on a down year, maybe 20
27:55
million a year, you get 2. Good punchers.
27:58
The same thing under score is like give me, give me those
28:01
postseason stats, give me that. Like that contract was probably
28:05
the best one that's came out this offseason for me personally
28:10
because you get what he is. He's going to give you 150
28:13
innings, 200's, not the marketing one that used to be.
28:16
He's going to give you estimated 154 this year.
28:19
He's going to win you double figure games, but he's going to
28:22
be a beast in the playoffs. That was a great signing for me.
28:26
Bullshit is not a great signing for me because you don't know
28:29
what you're going to get. Is he going to be hurt?
28:32
Is he going to play? You got to be on the field.
28:34
He's getting 42, new position, new team, new dynamic, new
28:39
clubhouse. Is he going to try and step in?
28:41
Because now you've demolished that clubhouse and all you have
28:46
is Frankie and Soda. You went from one of the old,
28:50
one of the youngest teams to now one of the middle age teams in
28:53
league. You brought Polanco in, he's
28:55
what, 33 years old? You brought in a, a second
28:58
baseman who's 36. I, I think you're reaching I, I,
29:02
I think the Mets are reaching I I and I.
29:05
Reaching the understatement. I don't know what's going on if.
29:09
I Speedy, speedy if if they were going to get this deal, you as a
29:13
Mets fan and as smart as you are, if they were going to take
29:18
this and obviously giving him like what realistically, like
29:23
everything's off the table, what would have been the number for
29:26
you? He's young enough, so definitely
29:29
35. I think it would have worked.
29:31
I don't think I would have done more than that.
29:33
He's 27, still more. Yeah, maybe still 30 million.
29:38
Yeah, again, that's. It I have a problem more with
29:41
the process. Obviously the money is bad.
29:44
It's really bad. I have a problem more with the
29:46
process though because why don't you do that earlier in the
29:48
offseason before you trade for Simeon?
29:50
Because now, like you're saying, the Simeon's defense, which is
29:54
good at second Java is going to be wasted if Bichette has to
29:57
move to second, because then he has to move to 3rd and then
29:59
Pelagos are playing. First Simeon that literally
30:02
didn't miss a game for five years, right?
30:04
I like to. Trade for Simeon that's he
30:07
hasn't ever led the league in hits like Bichette did.
30:09
Understand that, but what I don't get is now if you're
30:16
committed to what the process is and obviously he got opt outs,
30:21
he's like now OK, I'm 27 and you brought that up speedy.
30:26
It's like OK, 30 to 35, that's where that's where I would have
30:29
been OK with. You said 35.
30:31
I would have been OK with 35. I would have probably preferred
30:33
like 32, but yeah. But now it's like, OK, now if I
30:37
go ball out, I'm 27. I'll play the whole year at 28.
30:42
Now it's like, all right, the Mets suck ass.
30:47
I led the league in hits. I hit 280 with 25 a showed I can
30:51
play a position. Now he go gets another bag and
30:54
he's out. So realistically you're talking
30:57
about renting a player. Did you gave him that
31:00
opportunity to rent him? David Sterns, guys.
31:05
David Sterns. And like I said, Jabba for maybe
31:07
5 to 5 to $6 million more, you could have gotten Valdez and
31:11
Gallons. It's it's a joke, you know,
31:13
there's not much more to. See, you need pitching, I know.
31:16
And, and, and here's the thing, they're going to have to dig
31:18
deep for Tarik school because he's going to be available next
31:22
year. But there are going to be teams
31:23
lining up for this guy for about $500 million.
31:27
And now the Mets. I, I don't know how much money
31:29
is, is this guy going to dig into his pockets for this man
31:32
just to solidify the pitching staff.
31:34
Their pitching staff is, is young and to me, not ready for
31:39
this season. When you're putting all their
31:40
eggs in a basket of guys that have never played and playing
31:44
out of positions, it makes no sense.
31:46
It David Stern should be fired for this.
31:48
And I'm going to tell you this right now.
31:50
If he's not on the hot seat, hot seat going into the season, I
31:53
don't know what who is. This man should absolutely be in
31:57
the hot seat for making a move like this and trying to sell
32:00
this to Cohen. And if Cohen's going to sit here
32:02
and make it seem like, oh, we got a batting champion, this guy
32:05
can't stay healthy. This guy hasn't proven anything
32:08
for $42 million and for three years and he can opt out.
32:13
Makes no sense. Absolute debacle.
32:15
Terrible move for the New York Mets, reaching after losing out
32:19
on Tucker. That's all I'm going to say
32:20
about this. This is just, it's pathetic,
32:23
pathetic. They're a stupid organization
32:25
that's making more mistakes. And no Mets fan should make
32:27
excuses for David Stearns. And yes, ladies and gentlemen,
32:31
I'm speaking to you, Josh. I'm speaking to you.
32:33
You better not make an excuse for this.
32:35
This is a bad freaking move. A bad one.
32:39
And, and for you to sell this to me.
32:41
Oh, it's not my money. It's not my money.
32:43
I don't give a crap whose money it is.
32:45
This is your team. This is a team that you're
32:47
rooting for. And you're going to set your
32:48
team back because you're reaching on this garbage.
32:51
Reaching. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
32:55
a final segment of the night we call this.
32:58
What's That smell? Hold up, what is that smell?
33:02
What's that? Smell.
33:08
Wow, you don't see that everyday.
33:10
All right, ladies and gentlemen, what's that smell with no fish?
33:16
This is going to be interesting. All right, so we're going to go
33:19
first with Tommy Speedy. You know what?
33:24
I'll go 3rd and Jabba last. How's that one?
33:28
How about that one? All right, let's do it that.
33:31
One All right, so for my what's that smell?
33:34
I'm going to be going to the divisional round.
33:36
I know we talked about the divisional games a little bit
33:39
earlier, but I'm going to be focusing on really the only good
33:41
game of the divisional round being the Bills.
33:44
And well, I wouldn't say the only game, the most exciting
33:46
game being the Bills and Broncos.
33:47
Basically, if you guys have been living under a rock or not
33:49
following the playoffs, you would already know that.
33:52
We've mentioned this as well, that Patrick Mahomes, the man
33:55
who has made the last five out of the six Super Bowls, didn't
33:57
even make the playoffs. So for whatever reason, watching
34:02
the Bills game, we have Tony Romo over here calling Josh
34:05
Allen multiple times, Patrick Mahomes.
34:07
Now, I thought it was kind of funny because, hey, I mean, I
34:10
understand the fact that could be a mistake.
34:12
You know, Tony Romo was on CBS. They call a lot of CBS games.
34:16
The Chiefs play on CBS a lot, and like I said, they're making
34:18
the goddamn playoffs every single year for the last six
34:21
years, So actually in the last 10 years, so it makes sense.
34:24
Tony Romo's been really the guy on CBS, but I found it
34:28
absolutely hilarious that it doesn't.
34:29
I don't know if it's that he it was actually a mistake or he
34:32
misses him, but we can't escape. We can't seem to escape Patrick
34:36
Mahomes out of the postseason. So what does that smell like?
34:40
It smells genuinely like the molted garbage doughnut that
34:46
Tony Romo and it looks like Josh Allen are going to have in their
34:49
career when it comes to Super Bowl rings.
34:52
So there we go. All right, I saw this on
34:55
Facebook, actually, courtesy of a guy that used to be on our
34:58
network, Errol, one of our fantasy guys, Bo, who we did a
35:01
fantasy show with us. OK, Yeah, I saw it on his
35:04
Facebook because he has the he has a hot sauce company big time
35:07
flavor. So how's he doing?
35:10
Doing a lot of fantasy stuff I've seen I've seen recently and
35:12
he's I see his food stuff all the time.
35:14
If you want a good food, food social media site like he cooks
35:18
all tons of great things. But yeah, he's doing well.
35:20
A big good fantasy community. If we got to check out his
35:22
stuff. I haven't checked in with Scott,
35:25
though. Scott who has a daughter as
35:27
well. He's doing some I haven't heard
35:29
touch of him in a while, but I saw this on Bose Facebook
35:32
because he obviously he called himself the king of spice.
35:34
So the Rams, with cayenne pepper powder, tried to warm up their
35:41
socks and their cleats inside of it.
35:44
I'm like, what? I've read this.
35:45
I'm like, this is the perfect thing for what's that spell?
35:47
Because you already deal with athlete's foot as it is when
35:50
you're on a football field. And then you're going to put in
35:52
these really spicy. It's a really spicy pepper,
35:54
cayenne. And he was fifth or sixth among
35:57
Peppers that grow in the US or whatever.
35:59
And you're going to put that in your sweaty feet and socks and
36:03
all that stuff. So I'm like, yeah, this is
36:04
perfect for this segment. And the Rams try to do it to
36:06
keep them warm in the snow during the snow game against the
36:10
Bears. So what does that smell like?
36:11
Well, we're going to bring back a memory of a goodie trying to
36:15
have a Carolina Reaper. So it smells like that combined
36:18
with the ice cream that and the milk that he tried to eat.
36:20
And if a bear were to digest that, what would it come out as?
36:24
That's what it smells like. Wow.
36:27
Before you go real quick, Carol, I just wanted to say since you
36:29
guys got off the Mets, the Mets are actually training for Luis
36:32
Robert Mets. I'm sorry, White Sox outfielder
36:36
so. Yeah, they've been after him for
36:37
two years. That's not surprising.
36:38
Yeah, just saw it pop up. Just mention that.
36:41
But yeah, go ahead. Jumping for joy, great move.
36:44
Yeah, two years on a downturn. After the game, Anthony Edwards
36:48
admitted that the Timberwolves are often don't listen to the
36:52
game plan. Most of the time we don't listen
36:55
to the game plan. When we listen to it and
36:58
execute, we're pretty good, Edwards said.
37:01
When asked why it's so, so damn hard to do this consistently,
37:06
Edwards replied. I don't know.
37:08
We're hard headed. We want to make the game harder,
37:12
but we just listen tonight and and it works.
37:17
Oh my God, what is why is Anthony Edwards speaking?
37:21
Why is this guy speaking? Every time this guy speaks, he
37:25
makes him look, he makes himself look stupider and he makes his
37:29
team actually dysfunctional. It doesn't make any sense.
37:33
And, and I love the guy. I think he's a great player and
37:36
he's sensational as we heard what he did on that stupid
37:40
Netflix show when he when Obama was talking to him and and they
37:45
were asking, I forget who was asking.
37:47
I think it was one of the big guys.
37:49
He asked me, what do you think of what do you think of Anthony
37:52
Edwards? He says he's good.
37:53
He says good. I'm the truth, you know, and and
37:56
and and when it was asked if if he's going to.
37:58
Be the face. Yeah, and when he said he was,
38:01
he was all about being the face of people are asking who's going
38:04
to be the face of USA Basketball.
38:06
Everybody knows it's Anthony Edwards.
38:08
When everybody starts to retire, he says, yeah, I don't want it.
38:11
I have no interest in doing it As as we all know, this man does
38:15
not know how to zipper his mouth and he makes himself look dumb.
38:18
He makes his organization look dumb.
38:20
When is it going? What is it going to take for
38:22
this organization to just part ways with him?
38:24
John Moran's going. It seems like Giannis is going
38:27
not because of that, but I I I just don't know how much time
38:31
this organization is going to spend listening to this idiot
38:35
speak out and tell people that they're not following the game
38:38
plan. It's embarrassing to come out
38:41
there and throw his coach under the bus.
38:43
You know what it smells like? Smells like that owl eating that
38:46
Tootsie roll pop. Shove it up his ass and takes a
38:48
fart. That's what I say. 1A2 Who?
38:51
A three. He and it goes to take the
38:55
Tootsie roll pop. Yeah, it goes Anthony Edwards
38:58
asshole. What an ass.
39:01
Jesus. I'm going to go for the college
39:05
football Chris Fowler because he he's been under a little bit of
39:09
scrutiny in these last few weeks.
39:11
He, he literally comes on and he says, oh, a blowout in the first
39:18
half between Indiana and they're up 10 to nothing and nothing has
39:22
happened in the game. He pronounced you, you brought
39:26
up Romo when he's pronouncing names wrong.
39:28
Fowler did the same thing like 2 weeks prior.
39:31
Like back-to-back weeks. I know he's been in the game for
39:35
a while, but is, is he getting too old to to keep up with the
39:40
game because 10 nothing in the national championship game is
39:43
not a blowout. Don't understand where he was
39:46
coming from. And it smells like he has to use
39:51
that little hook to put his socks on because he can't bend
39:53
over and his older eaters aren't working.
39:58
Are there any Siam Peppers in those socks?
40:00
Java. He might need to try those the.
40:03
Gross sexual action of cream on somebody's face.
40:06
You might need to try them. I love the personalities that we
40:09
bring on the show. I just love how the flow of the
40:12
show has been working and it's been great.
40:14
It's been such a success for all the transitions and and all the
40:20
different stories that we get into.
40:21
So and we give the best takes. I don't care what anybody says.
40:24
Our takes are as good as anybody's and we go outside of
40:27
the box. I'm sure nobody says the things.
40:30
I mean, did anybody say, did anybody bring up McDermott going
40:34
to The Jets? Did anybody even think to do
40:36
that? I mean, Jets, The Jets haven't
40:38
even thought to do that because they're dumb organization.
40:41
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40:46
And I think people that haven't listened to the show or has
40:50
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40:52
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40:58
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41:01
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41:05
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41:39
We really do love you and happy birthday to fish.
41:42
Happy 40th to fish. And we got two guys with the age
41:46
of 40. You know, the babies are speedy.
41:50
Actually, Tommy's the old youngest guy on the show.
41:54
Niffin's right there with speedy.
41:55
And then we have the old goodster, the old goodster.
41:59
It was going to be 35 this year, I think so, yeah.
42:04
I didn't realize Goody was that young, I thought he was actually
42:06
a little closer to Javas age and he has to mind.
42:08
No, he's closer to your age. Yeah, but the old good stir is
42:12
getting up there in age too. So we love you too, man.
42:15
Anyways, that's it for a show. Who do we have on through?
42:18
All right, one of our favorite baseball guests and Java, he's
42:20
never been on with you, but I know, I know, I know you 2 have
42:24
a good connection with each other.
42:25
It's actually interesting. When we first had you join for
42:27
the Yankees postgame years ago, I saw you interacting with this
42:30
guy on Twitter at 9:30. Returning to the show is our
42:33
friend, Mr. Ryan Spader, MLB Analyst and the founder of The
42:36
Ace of spader.com. Ryan Spader, The Spader.
42:42
Oh my God. Oh, we're getting that Jackass
42:44
on. There we go.
42:46
Yeah. I'm texting.
42:49
Right now, the old. Ryanster.
42:53
Neutral on a Bush and don't want to think.
42:55
About it. All right, there we go.
42:57
Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Spader will be on Thursday.
42:59
All right, It is 11:30 and it's time to go.
43:02
I'm hungry. I want to say goodbye.
43:05
Goodbye to you and farewell. And we will talk to you on
43:08
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43:09
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