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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles REPLAY 092226 - The Middle East, the State Department, and an Unexpected New Voice · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: Well, good morning, y'all. There we go kicking off with our now familiar Allen Lee
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  Alvin. Excuse me. Not Allen. Alvin
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  Lee in ten years after lyrics from so many decades ago. So prophetic
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  was his vision.
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  If he only knew,
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  Poor old Alvin would be rolling over on his guitar picks, I can tell you.
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  Let's see what we got going on here today. It's the seventeenth,
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  Wednesday. Usually, we have Paul but Paul informed me right before the show today that he something had come up some sort of a situation that he had to tend to and that he would not.
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  He would not be able to spend any time with us today. However,
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  he did defer to tomorrow,
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  in which I accepted,
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  and
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  Mr. Cave has chosen to join us. So Mr. Paul,
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  how are doing this morning, brother? I was just telling everybody that mister Paul had something
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  that came up here at the last minute and had to go tend to it and
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  ask if we could defer until tomorrow and I said, why, of course.
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  Mate. Of course. Of course, mate.
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  I'd love to have you on tomorrow, mate and so tomorrow will be Paul. Friday will be, of course, Brent.
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  So, today, we can just kind of pick up where we left off yesterday, discuss anything
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  that we left out there hanging as loose ends
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  and
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  so that's what we can do today or else we coulda had a replay. So, I figured you guys want to do something live
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  and maybe there'd be something come up because there's certainly a lot of topical things to discuss out there that folks
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  like us, you know, folks like us, Chris and and Shane and audience, the ones that have
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  inquiring
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  minds,
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  and you'll
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  remember
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  that inquiring
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  minds want to know.
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  Unknown: Absolutely.
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  In fact, on this station,
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  that seems to be the proliferate
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  nature of the group that attend here, those intrepid searchers
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  Unknown: for the truth. We're about the biggest inquiring
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  minds that I've been able to conglomerate
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  here in the last couple of years. So,
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  you know, as I say so often, we may not be many,
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  and everybody wants numbers, numbers, numbers, and we'd like to have numbers too, and I think eventually we'll have them. But right now, we're out there cherry picking and getting the low hanging fruit, you know, the ones that really are the truth seekers,
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  and there's a whole bunch of people that fit in that category that just don't know we're here. If they knew we're here, they'd be over here with us, and eventually, many of them will be, I believe. So,
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  the thing for us is for me, it's my sanity,
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  okay? Uh-huh.
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  You just can't go out as many of you know and have tried to do this since you've become a little bit educated and enlightened
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  is you go out and try and talk to people about this stuff, and they think you got a third eye.
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  Unknown: Very curious, Roger. You know?
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  It's kinda curious. The parable of the mustard seed kinda speaks that many are called and few are chosen.
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  And Hosea four six seems to be a very concept that we take to heart around here. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. So we are just
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  diligent.
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  In fact, I think we are just dedicated
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  Unknown: to the seeking of truth on this particular radio show. Well, I do know one thing, Chris, because I'm like you, I I used to listen to all kinds of people all the time, and many of our other listeners
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  spin their dial around and listen to folks, and I can appreciate that. I don't do it too much personally anymore
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  because I think I've found the answer, and whenever I listen to other people, what I immediately am struck with is that as they continue with whatever they're saying is that it comes to me, they don't know what the hell they're talking about, and they don't really understand what's going on.
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  So feel that my time is better spent in other areas than listening to people that don't know what's going on. I've been doing that. I did that for many years, okay, and it helped to refine and define
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  Unknown: Thank you. It
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  Unknown: helped to refine
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  and define
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  what we do here
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  because in a sense,
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  you keep listening to enough of those people. They're supposedly the gurus.
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  They're the gurus. Come to They town in a traveling roadshow. There's two or three of them and they got some point and they go in there and give you a whole weekend of pontification
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  and the whole time,
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  you're seeing that they don't even know the damn meaning of the word person.
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  Okay? And
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  almost all laws are written for persons, so if they don't understand the legal concept behind the word person and they're up there trying to teach you something and giving you all this misinformation,
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  I would say again, my litmus test, and you know,
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  I wish somebody had asked people like Anna Von Wrights this stuff,
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  okay?
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  Oh. Okay, what's the real legal meaning of the word person?
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  I mean, that's a pretty simple question. It's pretty straightforward.
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  It's not ambiguous.
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  It doesn't seem to be confusing,
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  and you're gonna be able to smoke out exactly
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  what they to the extent of what they know if you know that substantive law.
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  Unknown: Well, you know, Voltaire was pretty, well respected in his time and a guru of bay, if you will, and his counsel was very wise and I think salient material.
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  And he told us that before we speak, let us define our terms. And when we don't define our terms, we let others redefine
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  them in their own self predatory, abericious,
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  Unknown: and politically Right. Illegally advantageous entry. Let me make a point. That sometimes does that. Well, me make a real important point. You said before we speak, and that's not what Voltaire said.
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  He said before
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  we discuss.
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  Unknown: Well,
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  Unknown: I suppose there might be a difference there, but go ahead. Yeah. Well, if you're just speaking, you're just speaking. I'm speaking right now. But if we get into a serious discussion and we're trying to find out the roots of some question that's right in the forefront of both our minds, we need to make sure we're on the same page and we need to make sure that the words that we're using to identify
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  the concepts that we're trying to get across, that we're both on the same page on that.
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  How could you have a meeting of the minds if you don't? How could you? You could get a situation where they go around asking people questions like, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident?
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  But we could work into that situation
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  like that for God's sakes.
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  Unknown: Why
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  Unknown: don't The deep question is why why don't some of you guys get out there a little bit more? Why don't you find out from
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  Judge Anna
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  exactly how good her schooling was, okay? And it's pretty simple, you can ascertain it one way, real easy, it's a real quick, easy litmus test. What's the legal concept behind
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  the definition of the word person?
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  That's not a difficult question, it's pretty damn straightforward,
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  it's not ambiguous,
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  okay? And whoever tells you that, and I'm gonna guarantee you I can tell you exactly right now
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  what the 95%
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  of the people or more are gonna answer you.
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  How can I tell you that? Because I've been asking the question for over twenty five years, and I've absolutely across the board from people that I held in the highest
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  of esteem and their knowledge,
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  and I get this answer that says, Oh, it's a corporate fiction.
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  Okay, so every time they say the word person in a law, it means a corporate fiction.
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  Is that right? Is that what you're telling me?
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  Because if that's what you're telling me, I'm gonna tell you that you are lacking a little bit of your understanding.
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  Did we just lose something? Did we oh, man. Now, we lost the Internet, I guess. It looks like we're idle here.
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  Let's see if we can get Alright. I got who knows? It's just stupid Internet dropped, I guess. So sorry. We'll get started again here.
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  Unknown: I tell you. Well, I didn't take it personal. I just said it was a consequence. I thought maybe you stopped your coffee or something. Well, I I take it personal. I'm getting pretty damn disgusted with it. So,
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  Unknown: maybe we can try and make some moves. You know, every time I'm doing the show on two computers now because I've used my desktop over here to do stuff on and the portables been set up since I moved and it's just easy to pop over here. I got a big enough desk. It all fits on there. So, that's what I've been using. Well, on the portable that I bought last year up there in the on my trip
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  where I was not hassled, was not confronted,
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  nobody said boo to me on the whole trip, okay? First time I've been back. Oh, yeah. That's what I thought too and I I didn't know. You know, in all honesty but I've got a lot of confidence in what I've found out and what I've gone through myself and learned and what I've seen a lot of other people now go through. And and then yesterday after reading that
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  document from the Secretary of State, and it says right there, which I've never I've never seen that before, Chris, until and I hadn't even really preread it closely enough until I was reading it on the air. Okay? Every US citizen is a US national. It says that right there in that sentence.
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  Unknown: Case of first impression.
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  Unknown: Let me repeat
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  the State Department's
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  statement and that very important document they've got on the web there. Again,
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  US citizen
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  is a US national, that's from the Department of State.
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  The ultimate arbitrators,
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  in case you've missed that to this point, they're the ultimate arbitrators
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  on all matters concerning citizenship,
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  period.
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  Unknown: Oh, Roger, does that make us white nationalists? Oh my god. Oh god. Please please please call me a white nationalist.
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  Unknown: Please call me. You
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  know? It's like, oh, please throw me throw me in the briar patch.
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  Please throw me in the briar patch.
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  So, anyway, we'll see who we troll up today. I'm sure somebody's got something on their mind out there. We got a couple of new students
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  that I know when you get into this, if you know, if you tell me you don't have any questions,
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  I'm gonna I'm gonna respond
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  either I'm a great teacher or you're not telling me the whole truth, okay?
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  And I. Oh. And I I think I'm pretty adequate. Thank you. I'm adequate at what I do but I don't believe that second part because I went through this personally. I know how damn confusing it is. Alright? So Well, you're very good at what you do, doctor. Well, thank you, Chris. I always
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  Unknown: teaching the skill that few possess,
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  but, you know, teaching these highly
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  not
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  devised to be solved
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  complex
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  concepts
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  is not for the faint,
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  the
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  not intrepid,
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  and those who don't have a diligent
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  study and a love of the truth to pursue these things
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  incessantly.
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  Unknown: Now I'm telling you, you guys that have talked to people out there know what I'm talking about. And when you're trying to get this across to them, especially if you're not skilled at it, see, when you're still learning. If you're getting these concepts across to you and they look at you and it looks like all of a sudden, their eyes just glaze over and their mind goes off somewhere around Pluto or Uranus.
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  Not Uranus but Uranus, the planet, okay? So,
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  you you
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  I mean, good lord. You might be you might be talking. I'll tell you what, from the clip I saw right before the show, you might be talking to the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.
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  And if you are, his thoughts are probably going to your anus.
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  Unknown: Yeah. I think you're probably right. A few of those sodomites up there. You know, curiously,
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  Cher apparently has had a change of her view of reality,
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  but somehow the circumstances,
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  you know, actions have consequences.
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  And you can change the circumstances,
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  but you cannot change the consequences
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  of circumstances.
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  Unknown: Oh. Right.
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  Pontificate. Pontificate.
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  In other words, you're using the old Anne Rand saying which
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  what she say, you can you can avoid
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  you can avoid reality,
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  but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality?
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  Unknown: I think that's pretty close to what she said, but this
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  this
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  this semilitude
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  is the same. Is that, basically,
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  you can certainly change your actions
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  or reactions,
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  but the circumstances that have plagued before you, you have to deal with them or you're evading reality.
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  And, unfortunately,
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  Unknown: that can bite you in the back. And you can't avoid the consequences of that.
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  Okay?
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  Let me tell y'all let me tell y'all a couple of news items here.
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  I called Chris yesterday from our Patriot lunch. I was a dadgum excited.
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  Yeah, you did. And which I generally don't do and I didn't know.
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  Chris, I didn't know who else to call. You know, I one or two people. Thought, well, okay. I'll just call Chris.
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  We had. You were gushing. I was gushing and I still am and I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a little bit retained in my gushing because I think I'm going to gush more about it as we go forward here. Let me explain to the audience what we're talking about, Chris.
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  The big just
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  shines on you.
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  I I don't know any other way to put it, okay?
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  And and this Fortuitous. You go through a a lot of toil and a lot of trouble and you're doing the right thing and you're doing it for the right reasons and you put one foot in front of the other and all of a sudden, you get down that path. There's been a little bit of pain and
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  and all of a sudden, you're rewarded.
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  It's like, I go out front here before the show and give my my herd of dogs out there some bones, You know, and it's like they they go out and do their thing, keep bad guys away and everything and they get rewarded.
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  And so that's. I think we've all gotten rewarded here. It it will remain to be seen as we go forward.
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  But yesterday,
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  last week, let me defer back to last week.
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  We've got as I think most of you know, every Tuesday,
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  we get together the not all of everybody here but certainly our kind of group of people that know each other and have a relationship.
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  We try and get together. Inquiring minds. Yeah, inquiring minds and we get together on Tuesdays
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  and they're not all as like minded as we are but everybody's
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  pretty well oriented that way. There's some exceptions but anyway, and so when I got up here,
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  the real background of it, the deep dive,
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  as Dave Jander would say, the deep dive on this, I guess when I was in Argentina,
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  especially in Buenos Aires when I spent time down there,
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  those guys all get together on Friday night. It's called Boys Night Out.
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  And on Friday night, they all get together and then meet someplace and then go to a restaurant and have a big meal together and then go have coffee and whatever else comes up.
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  And so
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  I enjoyed that because it was a nice
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  way for me to see other Americans, which were interesting. There's always a lot of interesting people through Buenos Aires.
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  Mean, that's, boy, that's an understatement,
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  okay? So, anyway,
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  and so when I got up here,
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  Patrick, my my chiropractor buddy, my landlord, I guess, he
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  only works three days a week. He's got his schedule and his practice set up. He only works Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. He humps his butt off for three days and then he has four days off, see?
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  And so he's off on Tuesdays and I said, Well, why don't we start getting together and have lunch on Tuesdays and so when I moved up here about year and a half ago, something like that. We get together every Tuesday and for the
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  first
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  part of it, it was just me and him every week
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  because Jack was traveling and then and all this stuff and so he was generally out of town and so Patrick and I get together and go have a little lunch and and enjoy each other's company and
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  so that all of a sudden that has morphed into a regular Tuesday deal but now, it's just not me and him. Sometimes, thirteen, fifteen people show up, okay? And there, we got a group on WhatsApp and so people are connected into that. Jack moderates it and he keeps everybody informed and so we go over there every Tuesday not knowing how many people will be there. We go to the same place. It's a neat little restaurant complex
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  and
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  we never know who's going to be there, alright? And so, whether there's somebody we know or somebody that somebody told them about it and came in for the first time or whatever. So, you meet some who they bring along with them
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  and so you meet some very interesting people there. Well, last week,
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  we'd had a couple of weeks where it was just three of us and so
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  then last week we come in and all of a sudden, about twelve, thirteen people show up that day and so when there's that many people, you don't really get to have conversation
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  with everybody
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  in in in-depth,
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  you know, and there was a couple, nice couple that was there when I walked up and and Ecuadorian
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  female
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  and un American.
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  I didn't know they were married at the time. They're married and so they stayed a little while and we introduced and they took off, you know, and the rest of the day was great. Well, we go back this week,
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  and when I walk in, the wife isn't there, but the husband's there, and there's only one other guy at the table, so I got there a little bit early, I guess and so, I get to sit down and actually converse with this guy that I'd met last week and his name is Cory
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  and
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  so I was going, well, Cory, well, you know, we're because I didn't get to have anything but a hi, how you doing last week? So, I said, Cory, where where where are you from? You know, and how long you've been? Well, I I came down last August and my wife's Ecuadorian and I've retired down here and I said, well, where what part of the country were you from? And he goes, well, I'm from Saint Louis and I said, what kind of work did you do? And he said, I was with the Department of State.
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  Unknown: Divine Public.
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  Unknown: And I I said Could've knocked you a little better. I
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  immediately looked him in the eye, I said, you've got my attention.
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  And
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  come to find out, he thinks we didn't get a lot of time to talk yesterday because the guy that was there, they had their own conversation going, and I didn't wanna dominate
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  with our political stuff. But I could tell right then
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  that he was real interested and that he kinda thought like we did. I got the vibe and so, I gave him my card and we start talking. I said, what are you doing down here? He said, well, I do a radio show.
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  He said, I wanna do talk radio show but the here I'm in Ecuador and I'm doing it with a network that just is simulcast within Ecuador. It's more Ecuadorian oriented and so I went to the guy that runs it and said, I'd like to do this English talk show. And he said, well, I don't think that's going to go over real well. Why don't you just try spinning records?
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  And so he's being a smacky mouth disc jockey and seems to like that.
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  Was thrilled that my background. Really? Was doing the disc jockey, sir? God tell you, it just gets better, man and so,
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  he's really interested. He's real interested. You know, like everybody else, pretty interested in music and stuff and likes that and and so he found out about all my music background and all of some of the stuff I did and and Yeah. And he had a talk. Evidently, he had some kind of a talk show if I if I got this right in The States for a couple of years and
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  so,
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  I told him about our network a little bit and what we're doing, and he and I are going to talk. He had to leave early, so we didn't get to really firm things up, but I gave him my card and we switched contact stuff.
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  But he did tell me
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  that he had been in for twenty years and
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  he he stayed in. My god. Yes, twenty years with the state department. Well, they tried to get him to stay. He he was based in Saint Louis and I'm I'm he's going to come on the show next week. So I'll get him to be able to fill in any blanks here, but I'll give you all the because this is pretty exciting to me. Have you run it you ever run across a retired state department, diplomatic type guy? Oh, no. No. This is right at the top of our list of areas that we have serious interest in. Okay. So, anyway, I said, well, what? I was trying to probe a little bit, you know, and I was asking. Yeah. And and he he said, well, I never did.
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  I never did really live overseas at one of the embassies and stuff but said, I'd go like temporary duty, you know, in military. They call that TDY.
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  You know. TDY. He'd go on. He'd go on temporary duty
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  for for three to six months at different embassies around the world
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  and
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  and fill in for people if they needed it or whatever and but he said, my specialty and he said, I've always had an interest in this and my specialty is The Middle East and
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  he said, before, as I was retiring,
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  they tried to offer me an assignment to to move to Riyadh
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  and he said, I they I deliberated it and it had some, you know, yins and yangs and I decided to retire but it looks like what we've got coming to the show is a retired
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  US State Department that kind of we'll find out exactly the extent of his duties and expertise,
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  but he has incredible expertise on The Middle East. I think that probably that's a part of the world that interests our audience a lot. It does me. Does it end? Do you think that's accurate, Chris?
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  Unknown: You that's I think we all have to be interested in The Middle East because our state department is not insured in The Middle East right now with Bolton and Pompeo where they're trying to stir up war as well as Venezuela,
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  China, Africa, and wherever else on the planet that they can get things on. Wherever else they can find some resources.
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  Unknown: You don't forget Ukraine.
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  And, so anyway, it looks like that's in our future. And I'm gonna He was busy today and he's got I don't know what he does on the side or anything else, but anyway, I did shoot him last night when we had our contact
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  stuff secured.
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  I shot him at least the video, US passport for Ed Snowden,
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  and I said, look at this first, you'll get a good overview of my work. He was real interested,
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  and my impression from the conversation without getting into any depth
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  is that he understands
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  what's going on. Now he may not know the specifics and the details like we do, but he understands the two citizenships,
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  that statement,
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  from the Secretary from the State Department.
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  Every US citizen is also a US national.
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  Okay? Now that parallel Roger. Yes, Chris?
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  Unknown: Them being compartmentalized
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  as they are, but him being in there for twenty years and traversing
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  the continent to various and some of different indices,
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  he has to be at the top of the food chain and may have acquired
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  substantial
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  knowledge to the intricate
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  operations
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  of the state department and the pass port Division in I
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  Unknown: don't know about that. I didn't get a chance to ask him about that, but my feeling was he seemed very comfortable in discussing the areas, the things we touched on yesterday,
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  and he has seemed to have a lot of enthusiasm
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  and pretty well be oriented like we are, and he was chomping at the bit to watch that video.
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  I don't know, he might be listening to the show today, but he might be watching that video or whatever, but my point being, pretty exciting that this rare
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  situation
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  comes across my path all the way down in sleepy little Ecuador for god's sakes. Okay? Well, whether it's divine providence or let's say
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  Unknown: other forces at work
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  remains to be seen, but I am excited almost as much as you are to have this quality of an individual amongst our entourage
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  Unknown: here at the People's Patriot Network. Well, I think we can get some real definitive answers from somebody that's been in on the inside on some of the questions that come up occasionally about dealing with Foggy Bottom, you know,
• 26:57
  and so we'll see.
• 26:59
  Unknown: I'd also More pure drive Northwest as it were. Uh-huh, yeah. He's chomping at the bit
• 27:05
  Unknown: to do talk radio. It's something that really evidently really really
• 27:09
  Cory's listening now. He tells me so. Hey, Cory.
• 27:13
  Glad you're in and we'll find out when we get you on the air but Cory,
• 27:18
  you know, expressed the desire to me to
• 27:22
  he's got a real kind of talk show thing. I mean, that seems to be a real drive for him and and just in passing, I suggested, why don't you think about because first thing that hit me, why don't you think about maybe doing
• 27:35
  say with your expertise that you bring to the table on The Middle East. Final cast. Well, bring bring a show. Yeah. We could have a show
• 27:43
  that's dedicated to The Middle East every week because I'm sure that pick up a lot of listeners and people are interested in that in that area of the world. I like things that are happening with somebody from
• 27:54
  his viewpoint and knowledge and experience coming to share and feel questions and give us some insight, okay? Because I mean, you know, I had a question yesterday and I'll tell you, I'll tell you who
• 28:05
  who asked me, okay?
• 28:08
  And I don't talk about this too much ever.
• 28:11
  I should more but I know that this particular person's
• 28:14
  real shielded on his family life and that's our friend Brent,
• 28:18
  okay? Well,
• 28:20
  I don't know that I've told y'all this, but a couple of years ago, I was contacted by Brent's oldest son,
• 28:27
  and over a couple of years about the political material, see? And I at that point, Brent, I don't believe, had given us a clear sign that we'd drug him over to our side of the pond on this issue. And so my immediate
• 28:41
  feeling was, great. I'll use his oldest son and educate him and let him educate dad. See?
• 28:48
  And so
• 28:49
  his son and I In the realm. Well, we've developed a nice relationship over the years. See, as as you can only imagine, listeners to this show and this program on a regular basis,
• 29:00
  you can imagine when I tell you that Brent Winters has raised some really impressive children.
• 29:09
  Unknown: If you don't mind me adding to the conversation there, Brent, Excuse me, Roger. I had been watching this morning in the last couple of mornings, some of Brent's earlier evidentiary productions of some of his series
• 29:21
  of 15 on the YouTube,
• 29:24
  boning up on some fundamental principles, and it's essentially the same material he goes over in our show on Fridays
• 29:31
  and has brought and upped our game level significantly.
• 29:36
  And I think Corey will likewise up our game level another notch.
• 29:40
  And this is just really fabulous that this concentration
• 29:44
  of
• 29:45
  fundamental truths, basic intimate
• 29:48
  knowledge
• 29:49
  that brings this format to a higher platform
• 29:54
  of
• 29:55
  absolute true burritos
• 29:57
  Unknown: beyond anything on the network? Well, you know, it's interesting because of my background in radio and and broadcasting and programming and all that stuff for so many decades, okay, if not actively involved thinking about it because I always liked it. And then you add in the teachings of John and Glenn and Horace Leddes in a specific legal direction,
• 30:18
  and you combine all these factors and we've got something really unique here. I mean, I recognize it, and that's one of the reasons I've steered the program away from being a traditional
• 30:29
  radio program like y'all listen to. Oh, look at Nancy Pelosi's body language, you know, and all or this and how they're doing that and and get into all that distraction conversation
• 30:40
  and cut down right to the nut, see,
• 30:43
  and talk about how Nancy Pelosi's able to be in that position
• 30:47
  and the fact that it's nothing but a political facade and political theater and all the rest of it. But I don't over all the years I listened to other programs, Chris, I don't remember any other program where I really got super substantive stuff like I try and keep in front of us here.
• 31:04
  Unknown: Let me, plum you up on something just in case you didn't get it. I got an email from one of our prodigal sons that is really high up your list of old time friends going back from x y number two or whatever it was.
• 31:17
  Tom Schramm sent an email yesterday with his son, Ethan Allen's,
• 31:23
  new passport
• 31:24
  and letter to Mercure Drive Northwest in particular, the passport division
• 31:29
  for all the US Secretary of State Department passport communications
• 31:33
  Unknown: and foggy bottom. Well, I think that was something he sent to Carrie when Lurch was still in there. And Tom was gonna send it six,
• 31:41
  or eight months ago, and he's getting around to sending it. So That's
• 31:45
  true. Noel, you know, my my my problem with Tom and he's an old friend is that he just doesn't want to look at this with an open mind. I think that he he he just won't accept any of it and so, okay, Tom, if that's the way you wanna be, go on off and chase whatever whatever way you, you know, think. He thinks he's gonna beat Ruminating.
• 32:06
  Well, he thinks he's gonna beat this from the bottom up like our entire community has always done.
• 32:12
  That, oh, no. I don't wanna inter interact the federal government. They don't have any jurisdiction or validity. Oh, really?
• 32:20
  I'm gonna go to my state because I'm a state citizen.
• 32:23
  I'm a state citizen. That's the way it used to be, and I'm gonna go to my state so and so and get this done. Well, guess what? There ain't nobody in that office anymore.
• 32:34
  The
• 32:35
  states that you're dealing with have those offices, but nobody's in them.
• 32:41
  They're vacated.
• 32:42
  Exactly what Ralph Florham says. There's no public office anymore. Well, there's not. They wear two hats but that it's still there but it ain't there.
• 32:52
  Which one is the p under? That's right. Do you see it? Which one is the p under? Here. Let me move these around a bit and you can guess
• 33:01
  except in under private, not public. Well, in this instance in this instance, the PA ain't under any of them.
• 33:10
  That's right. Okay. And so Tom and our entire community
• 33:15
  that our entire community as long as I've been in this insists on fighting this from the bottom up.
• 33:21
  Now, would you say that's a true statement? Chris, you've been in this a pretty good while. Absolutely true. Okay.
• 33:27
  No, I don't want to deal with them. No, they got no validity, nothing. No, I'm gonna deal with down here where there's nobody. Excuse me. I don't wanna go down that rabbit hole. I'm gonna I'm gonna stay down here and deal with their agents
• 33:40
  fifteen, twenty, 30 levels down. So I gotta fight up through fifteen, twenty, 30 levels to get to the main guy. That's one of the way I'd rather do it, and you wanna know why we've had such very little success?
• 33:52
  That coupled
• 33:54
  with the fact that everybody thinks the word person
• 33:58
  means a corporate fiction,
• 34:00
  which is ridiculous.
• 34:03
  Well, our public fool schools have had a pretty good job to see me as to believe. I hadn't seen Chris, I hadn't seen a public school cover any legal stuff on the meaning of person. Here's what happened. Right. Here's what happens.
• 34:16
  Guy This
• 34:18
  has happened to virtually everybody that's hearing these words.
• 34:22
  That's where we are.
• 34:24
  You wake up to this, something motivates you to wake up, and you know you gotta go start studying law because you're pretty sure you're gonna fight them in court.
• 34:33
  Is that a pretty accurate statement?
• 34:36
  You are compelled to defend your position. Yes. So you've never as I've said before, the extent of your legal knowledge is watching Perry Mason when you were a kid.
• 34:48
  Okay? Oh. Or LA Law. Religious.
• 34:51
  Unknown: Or one of those. Yes.
• 34:53
  Unknown: And so, you go in. What do you do? You go in, oh, there's these there's something called law dictionary?
• 35:00
  Is that right? Oh, and there one of them is called this guy's gotten black. I'm not being I'm not, you know, being racist. That's the name of the damn law dictionary. It's blacks.
• 35:10
  Yeah. I can't change the name. I guess that must I guess that must make me a white nationalist because I identify blacks law dictionary. K?
• 35:20
  Unknown: Must be a racist conspiracy.
• 35:23
  Unknown: And so I go into blacks
• 35:25
  and and and I start looking. Well, maybe some people in school had had
• 35:30
  exposure to business law and
• 35:32
  that's where you'll get stuff like this and you go in there and you start looking under the word person. It said, person, a corporation,
• 35:40
  a trust, a partnership,
• 35:41
  a and
• 35:43
  they take the first word,
• 35:45
  corporation
• 35:46
  and now, person is a corporation.
• 35:53
  Unknown: And not to mention you got the title five USC five fifty one except the Administrative Procedures Act that has its own special definition.
• 36:02
  Unknown: Well, they can they can define it all kinds of stuff in there, but I'm talking about the legal concept behind the word. Yeah. Not all of this changing
• 36:11
  legal. You know, gobble the goop crap they trick us with in in the well, you know, come on, Chris. Let me ask you the question. Why the hell do you think they call it code?
• 36:23
  Unknown: Because it's secret.
• 36:25
  Unknown: Because you gotta know how to interpret it.
• 36:29
  That's right. You gotta have a decoder ring or a magic A rosette? Glasses. What You gotta have your own Rosetta Stone. You gotta have your own personal Rosetta Stone, man. So, anyway, they put all that in there and our people get buffaloed
• 36:43
  and it's just like Mark Twain said, it's easier to fool a man than tell him he's been fooled.
• 36:49
  You're going to go in there and try and tell these people, and I hope
• 36:52
  everybody that's listening has had this experience,
• 36:56
  excuse me, in your discussions with your fellows over the years, okay? And you start going in and telling them it's not admiralty law and a person's more than a than a corporate fiction and those people will not believe you and sometimes you'll get into arguments and sometimes arguments
• 37:14
  like. Yeah. Oh, like Tom. You know, like Tom and I used to get into what I called the
• 37:20
  the the odd couple, Felix and Oscar
• 37:23
  discussions,
• 37:24
  you know?
• 37:26
  Unknown: Hey. Shane was rattling around in the background. I think he had something he wanted to say that was burning in his heart. We never get him a window yet. Imagine us trampling over somebody wanting to say something around here. Shane, front and center. Yes.
• 37:40
  Unknown: Yes. I have nothing to say. I'm sorry. Oh, Chris. I'm
• 37:44
  I'm now outside.
• 37:46
  I'm
• 37:47
  watching the traffic go by and, yeah, it's pretty
• 37:53
  commuted here at an Apple computer.
• 37:56
  Unknown: Did you did you pat go down and can do. Did you walk down yesterday,
• 38:01
  Shane, and pat some of them on the back for giving all that money to Notre Dame, the latest false to you. The latest false flag over there in Paris?
• 38:10
  Unknown: Actually, I saw one, and I shook his hand. Oh, good for you, Shane.
• 38:15
  Well, listen. Let's let's Once again yeah. This is once again, this is a false flag,
• 38:21
  and it's just,
• 38:23
  decoupling
• 38:24
  from the realities of what
• 38:28
  the Christianity
• 38:29
  of the
• 38:32
  they're trying to trying to blame the
• 38:35
  the Muslims for it. You know?
• 38:38
  So yeah, it is just Have
• 38:40
  Unknown: seen Have you seen that? I watched it this morning. I keyed it up last night, but I didn't get a chance to see it.
• 38:47
  I had some hockey hockey game interference
• 38:50
  last night. And
• 38:53
  but there was a there's a nice video out by Paul Joseph
• 38:56
  Watson
• 38:58
  on on what happened, and the he goes over to the Arabic
• 39:03
  tweet groups,
• 39:05
  and hundreds
• 39:07
  of Arabic tweets,
• 39:09
  all
• 39:10
  written in Arabic by the way, and they all got a smiley face as Notre Dame is burning in the background.
• 39:17
  And BuzzFeed
• 39:18
  tried to say that
• 39:20
  anyway, he got into a big urinate and match with them, and that's what that was about. Very interesting, but he showed a whole bunch of these tweets from Muslims, and every one of them had a smiley face next to it.
• 39:34
  Unknown: The now, let me tell you. I'm sure that all of those are Muslims. Well, I I think. No,
• 39:40
  Unknown: these were in this was in their their group, Chris. I mean, he's just pulling it off.
• 39:46
  Could be some some slugs in there. Who knows, man? There's so much going on but
• 39:52
  but the point I was going to get over to had nothing to do with the Muslims. I my feelings at this point are that it was definitely set up
• 40:01
  but to have and demonize the yellow vests
• 40:05
  because they have not been able to stop them. They're not only
• 40:09
  prolific
• 40:10
  in Paris and France every Saturday,
• 40:13
  but it's spreading off to the other countries. It at least got a yellow vest group. There's been some of them showing up in England. I've seen some of them even in our country, and they're scared to death of this. They can't control it. It's obvious they hadn't been able to control it in months, even with army,
• 40:29
  and they tried to whip the anti Semitic label on them here a couple of weeks ago, and that bounced off like water off a duck's back. Okay? And so know them by their work. Yep. We sure do. Obvious what their strategy will be. They will infiltrate,
• 40:45
  Unknown: and then they'll put provocateurs
• 40:47
  within the yellow vest, and then they'll have them bad act and try to frame the blame of the yellow vest to try to diffuse the damage control, and that's their normal operating, most often. What they're trying to do is turn the French public against them for destroying a historic landmark.
• 41:04
  Unknown: Now, I don't know that that happened. I'm not making a statement. I'm just always asking questions these days,
• 41:10
  okay?
• 41:11
  And so this discussion came up yesterday at lunch,
• 41:16
  and one of the other guys, I've told you all before,
• 41:19
  is a retired federal law enforcement guy,
• 41:22
  and he's neat guy and he used to he was a a instructor down at Glencoe for a year or more and has, you know, worked for couple of different agencies in those capacities and he's a pilot too and he used to fly. He just retired. That's why we're seeing him at lunch so much lately,
• 41:39
  and but he used to fly the Quito Fire Department helicopter,
• 41:43
  so anytime you saw a red and yellow helicopter, you knew it was AT, see? And so this came up at lunch yesterday and he goes, Roger, you're not really insinuating that they would burn down the church, the church and do this. I said. Absolutely. I said, well, I'm you know, look, I don't know yet but I've got some things that are highly suspicious to me and at these times I question everything.
• 42:06
  Okay? It didn't I don't have a firm
• 42:10
  idea or an accusation, that's what happened, but I'm certainly looking at it real objectively and with an open mind and not just buying what the hell they're selling on any kind of this major network stuff. So, let's look at the behind the scenes. Well,
• 42:24
  now, just got. Listen,
• 42:26
  I just got some more firmer or firm numbers on this this morning because I didn't have these yesterday
• 42:31
  and you've seen alluded to
• 42:33
  the the rash of
• 42:35
  vandalism
• 42:36
  against French churches in the last year or so. And other churches in the world, yes. Uh-huh. Do you know how many French churches have been torched in the last year?
• 42:47
  Unknown: I do not.
• 42:48
  Unknown: Eight twelve. 100
• 42:50
  try 854.
• 42:53
  Unknown: That's a lot of churches. That sounds like a war.
• 42:58
  Unknown: Over 800 churches
• 43:00
  in France have been scorched. Now, whether that's this Muslim bunch,
• 43:05
  whether who know? Man, France is one of the sinners of the whole new world order. The head Freemason Lodge is in Paris.
• 43:12
  We know the first time they use these principles in a country to overthrow it was the French Revolution.
• 43:18
  It's got a lot it's got some real deep roots there.
• 43:21
  Unknown: Okay? Isn't the mantra
• 43:25
  the
• 43:27
  by deception, we shall do war,
• 43:30
  that of Mossad and the Jacob Franken or the Franken?
• 43:35
  Unknown: By way of deception,
• 43:37
  we shall
• 43:39
  make war
• 43:40
  is
• 43:43
  founding saying of the Mossad,
• 43:45
  and it's absolutely
• 43:47
  100%
• 43:48
  Sun Tzu.
• 43:51
  Unknown: Curiously, I happen to have a copy
• 43:53
  of the controlling the human element of security, the art of deception by Kevin d Mittnick
• 43:59
  and William l Simon,
• 44:02
  forward by Steve Wozniak.
• 44:04
  Okay. And it says that social engineering
• 44:07
  uses influence and persuasion to deceive people by convincing them that the social engineer is someone
• 44:13
  he is not or by manipulation.
• 44:16
  And as a result, the social engineer is able to take advantage of people
• 44:20
  to obtain information with or without the use of technology
• 44:25
  or technophagy
• 44:26
  Unknown: as the case may be. Tell me it ain't so. It's called
• 44:29
  Unknown: social
• 44:32
  Unknown: construct. Yes, a social construct. Well, let's look
• 44:36
  let's go further in our analysis here because I think these are relevant points.
• 44:40
  So, evidently, a whole bunch of churches in France have been torched in the last year. That's a great number. I think everybody agrees.
• 44:47
  I was shocked when I heard it.
• 44:50
  Unknown: It's a large number. Yes. Not coincidental.
• 44:53
  That's plain and So
• 44:56
  Unknown: that's been going on for whatever reason in the background for a while.
• 45:00
  They had a huge reconstruction
• 45:03
  project there at the Notre Dame Cathedral that had been going on and I I read in an article that the head of the construction company was telling them it was in guaranteed
• 45:13
  safe hands
• 45:15
  on the reconstruction
• 45:16
  there, Chris.
• 45:18
  Unknown: Yeah, you can believe that. It's absolutely true. You're you're you're like
• 45:22
  Unknown: Gerald Medler. Your artifacts are in really safe hands. So. But and
• 45:28
  you know, you saw that scaffolding and stuff that was up, you know, that they were working. Yeah. But. Yeah. Yeah. Did you did you know that? Figure walking around with scaffolding.
• 45:37
  But did you but hold on. Woah. Woah. Woah. Hold on a second. Did know that none of the workers were there?
• 45:43
  Yesterday, day before. They were off. Right. The whole day. Holy day. Oh, it was it it and so all the workers on the big construction project were
• 45:53
  were off. Now, did you know that they had removed? What's this? Did you know that they had removed a bunch of the statues and stuff from inside in the previous weeks?
• 46:02
  Unknown: Now, whether that's. I sent you the word that Michael Rivero used yesterday. I don't remember what it was. I'd have to look at my file to tell you, but I will. But regardless,
• 46:12
  Unknown: and when that came up yesterday, he said, well, they're doing construction. I said, yeah, that may be the reason.
• 46:18
  I'm not pointing fingers. I'm just putting facts out there.
• 46:22
  Okay?
• 46:22
  There were a number of the real key statues and stuff that had been removed over the subsequent weeks leading up to this, and yesterday, or when it happened, the day it happened, none of the crew was there,
• 46:36
  but they did get a picture.
• 46:39
  Did y'all see this? They did get a picture of a guy up on one of the walkways on the 2nd Floor on the outside there, and you know the damnedest thing, Chris.
• 46:48
  It was the damnedest thing.
• 46:51
  Unknown: Anonymous?
• 46:52
  Unknown: No. He had a yellow vest on.
• 46:55
  Unknown: No. I swear to you. I swear to you. You wouldn't put a yellow vest on a guy that started the fire and try to flame the blame on the yellow vest or Muslim, Islam to
• 47:06
  die drive straight from the hearts of Christians, would they? They do that in a nano You show them by their words. They do that in a New York nanosecond,
• 47:14
  Unknown: and every damn one of us knows it. And and and if nothing else, the the Jews that are setting this thing up, the Sephardic or the Sabbatean pieces of crap that are right there in that grand Orient lodge in Paris would love nothing more than to see one of the iconic churches of Christendom burn.
• 47:34
  Unknown: See, that's called the modus operandi.
• 47:38
  Unknown: Okay. If you don't think so, look what you don't think I'm saying something true, you go look at some of those videos on what the hell they did in Russia.
• 47:50
  Unknown: Oh, or 09/11,
• 47:52
  the dancing Israelis.
• 47:53
  Unknown: Yep. They didn't destroy churches in 09/11.
• 47:56
  In Russia, they destroyed virtually every Christian church in the country.
• 48:04
  Unknown: I personally believe that there was a Masonic
• 48:06
  hall inside that particular church,
• 48:09
  and therefore, the people who were a part of that Masonic lodge
• 48:13
  also
• 48:14
  burnt down their own
• 48:16
  Masonic
• 48:19
  Unknown: place. Well, think they got I their own think they I
• 48:22
  think they got their own Masonic Lodge over there in Paris that is the world
• 48:28
  center lodge for the Scottish Rite, I believe.
• 48:32
  Unknown: Curiously,
• 48:33
  there's some an individual over on the frequency channel
• 48:37
  called the Eye of Ra who claims
• 48:40
  that
• 48:41
  there's very likely
• 48:43
  ancient pagan or demon god or goddess sites beneath most of these so called Roman Catholic
• 48:51
  churches,
• 48:53
  if you will. And that
• 48:55
  there might be some energy forces vortexes
• 48:57
  Unknown: beneath those things too. Well, you know, Chris, you know, I saw it in in one of those Robert Seffer videos I was watching the other night. You know, the Saint Peter's Basilica, you know what it's built on?
• 49:10
  I think that's the 7th Hill alone, if I remember right. It's built on the graveyard where they threw buried all the Christians that were murdered in the Colosseum adjacent to it.
• 49:20
  Unknown: Oh, so it's a blood sacrifice location. I get it. K. And what's the UN built on?
• 49:30
  The UN.
• 49:31
  And yeah. That's number one.
• 49:35
  Unknown: Does anybody know? Mean, anybody wanna call in or do we just have this banter here because I know.
• 49:40
  Unknown: Well,
• 49:41
  Unknown: share the location. Okay. What's the the UN built on top of? Well, the land that the UN is built on was donated by the Rockefellers.
• 49:49
  It was land that they owned. Right. Where they used to have the main slaughterhouse
• 49:53
  for New York.
• 49:56
  Unknown: Oh,
• 49:58
  a
• 49:59
  blood feast location.
• 50:00
  Unknown: Another
• 50:02
  blood feast location.
• 50:04
  Unknown: You forgot the another. It's the pure iron.
• 50:07
  Unknown: Okay.
• 50:08
  And so I don't know, is that relevant? I don't know, but it's factual.
• 50:14
  Unknown: Seems to be a developing trend, that's evidentiary.
• 50:17
  Unknown: So my
• 50:18
  point of discussion here
• 50:21
  on the on this French fiasco is I don't know whether it was a false flag or not. I know that the yellow vest movement's given them sleepless nights. It's costing them a lot of money when they burn up all those stores and cars and all that disruption. They've been
• 50:38
  doing
• 50:39
  dishing out every Saturday
• 50:41
  for how many? Three,
• 50:43
  two and a half, three months now, every Saturday, right?
• 50:47
  Unknown: Well, Roger, I don't know either, but I've learned that
• 50:51
  in spite of contributing facts to the opposition
• 50:55
  that we follow these
• 50:56
  large events,
• 50:58
  whether they're constructed,
• 51:00
  fabricated,
• 51:01
  tactically invented, or paid for by the store of Occupy Foundation moveon.org
• 51:06
  and other constructs,
• 51:09
  it's very likely the same people and money source that are funding whoever is doing these things, and that is pretty well undeniable has been observed.
• 51:19
  James Spitzer is a pretty good
• 51:21
  conspiracy analyst along with myself and others around this thing, and I can't tell you one major event that has had influences
• 51:30
  pulling the strings from behind the scene to make them happen in a controlled opposition Syops operation.
• 51:37
  Unknown: Well, I don't disagree with you, Chris. I remember back when I was younger in the America that I grew up in that
• 51:45
  I can't remember everybody was friendly, you know, pretty much and and and people had guns. You could order guns from Sears and Roebuck by mail and stuff. Yeah.
• 51:57
  That, I didn't see bunch of people shooting and killing people. I mean, I grew up in Alaska. You know, I went to high school in Anchorage, Alaska and hell, everybody had guns up there. They were out hunting caribou and hunting moose and hunting this and hunting that. They weren't out hunting
• 52:12
  They weren't shooting people out there like we're seeing today.
• 52:18
  Unknown: Well, I we did some of that in my neighborhood too down in Texas, North Oklahoma,
• 52:24
  trucking through The Netherlands and the hinterlands with a 22 rifle and, you know, we never shot each other. We were we might have been having rabbits or birds or whatever else, but we were pretty crack shots back then.
• 52:38
  Unknown: Well, it's just it's a changed world, and the reason it's changed is because these creeps have instituted their Franklin School,
• 52:45
  and and and they've created all of these schisms, and they've got everybody hating everybody else, and then they come back and tell you how bad hate is after they've instigated in everybody, and they're the progenitors of it because if I read their holy books right, it appears to me they hate everybody.
• 53:03
  Unknown: No place for hate except for them.
• 53:06
  Unknown: I mean, if they're telling you that they're these elated souls and everybody else is nothing but cattle and cockroaches and don't have any souls,
• 53:14
  is that hate?
• 53:17
  Unknown: We have to hate you. We're the victims. It's our duty.
• 53:21
  Unknown: Jeez.
• 53:23
  Well, again, I I you know, I go back to Hilara Balach, the famous Catholic writer. I didn't know he lived there in South England back where down real close to where Paul is. He said ten ten twelve miles to his house. Well, Hilar Balak in his book, The Jews, a hundred years ago, said the world's biggest problem is the Jewish problem and Roger Sales tell you right here on the radio ranch today that the big it's even a bigger problem a hundred years later, but the biggest problem in the world is this
• 53:53
  Sabbatean,
• 53:54
  Edomite,
• 53:55
  bunch of satanic,
• 53:57
  slaving,
• 53:58
  son of a bitches that have got control of the world.
• 54:01
  Daryl sent me we've discussed this guy. He's gotten a little bit of press on our platform here lately. Sent last night's Rick Wiles True News
• 54:11
  and I'd I'd, you know, for those of you
• 54:14
  looking the Rick Wiles runs a good program. He seems to have really a competent people around him and he runs an hour plus daily news program,
• 54:24
  and
• 54:25
  and they were talking last night. He brought out a clip, and they played it three or four times. I should have probably gone in and snipped it and played it for you guys, but it's short, And I can pretty well repeat it, although I'd rather hear you hear it out of this creep's lips. Let me use my cough button for a second here.
• 54:45
  Unknown: The more things change, the more they stay the same, it seems, for those who take close attention It does. To we Well, what Rick and them were wailing on last night
• 54:55
  Unknown: was a clip out of Texas A and M University
• 54:59
  by our current Secretary of State, and I hope Corey's listening, by our current Secretary of State, Mr. Pompus.
• 55:08
  Oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Pompeo.
• 55:10
  And
• 55:11
  Mr. Pompeo,
• 55:13
  it seems to me like from what I gathered, he may have some attachments
• 55:17
  back there to the core
• 55:19
  Unknown: at Texas A and M University. Seems so. At least he's tied to Bolton and his constructs of the PNAC group and the project for the New American Century of seven
• 55:29
  Unknown: countries in seven years. Alright. Well, they didn't identify
• 55:32
  the group that he was speaking to, but I know it was at Texas A and M. Okay? And so who I'm still POed about for beating us that last game in the football season that was such an atrocious. They call those the Aggies as I recall. That's right. And so I've I've still got a I've still got a vendetta here. So since it happened at their place, I'll drag it out.
• 55:52
  And Pompeo
• 55:54
  way
• 55:55
  off. They sat religious tales. That's right. How how dare how dare they pay off those referees?
• 56:01
  So
• 56:02
  Pompeo is talking to this group and he says, well, you know, when I was at when I was at West Point, evidently, he's a West Point guy and he said, when I was at West Point, we had a creed and it says, we don't lie, we don't cheat, and we don't steal, and we don't hang around with people that do. Something to that effect, okay?
• 56:21
  Unknown: Now, this is it. I I I I know. Chris,
• 56:25
  Unknown: I swear to you, I'm not kidding you, Okay? So he said that. He said, when I was at West Point, we had a creed. We don't lie, steal, or cheat, or hang out with people that do. Affiliate with people that do. However, they put it. He said, then I got to the CIA
• 56:40
  and hell, we teach people to lie, cheat, steal, and have manuals and classes on it.
• 56:48
  Unknown: And the Jesuit man. And
• 56:51
  Unknown: By deception, we shall be warned. And then he made a then he made another comment about something about the greatness
• 56:58
  and substance of America after he'd said that the CIA
• 57:01
  has manuals and training courses to teach people lie, cheat, and steal, which they taught him absolutely not to do when he was at West Point. So the point being, the other thing that. Well,
• 57:12
  I know. The other thing that really
• 57:15
  got me about that clip was the laughter of the audience.
• 57:21
  Now, you got
• 57:22
  you got the guy that's
• 57:26
  the Secretary of State, pretty powerful position within our government,
• 57:30
  who used to be the head of the CIA
• 57:32
  getting up there and telling people that they promote lying, cheating, and stealing, And not only do they promote it, they've got
• 57:40
  classes,
• 57:41
  and it's a whole environment there within the CIA. Now
• 57:46
  I mean,
• 57:47
  just what the hell does that speak for our country?
• 57:51
  Unknown: Roger, you mean they did a what we choose to call a Manfred where people roll on the ground laughing hysterically and
• 57:59
  disable and uncontrollably
• 58:01
  with the ludicrous
• 58:03
  absurdity of the preposterous state were put out there and they just can't become themselves
• 58:09
  because of the hilarity of the situation, of the preposterousity.
• 58:13
  James one eight, a double minded man is of unsound mind and uncertain in all his ways.
• 58:20
  Unknown: The
• 58:22
  the thing that it it just got me, you know, I mean, why? They played that clip three or four times, okay? But towards the end of the show, and this is what Darryl had given me a heads up on, and so I was real conscious that to be listening for it.
• 58:37
  And towards the end of the show, somebody posed a question
• 58:41
  which is really worth thinking about. What
• 58:45
  if we had a Christian
• 58:48
  world policy?
• 58:53
  Unknown: That would certainly be a different sort of environment, wouldn't it?
• 58:58
  Unknown: What if we had a Christian world policy instead of this damn
• 59:03
  Sabbatean
• 59:04
  murder and damn
• 59:06
  Jew crap that we've been dealing with for so many decades.
• 59:10
  And you see the results all over the world of of a Sabbatean
• 59:14
  foreign policy.
• 59:18
  Unknown: More, more, more, I didn't tonight them. Okay. And you see it ongoing,
• 59:23
  Unknown: but my
• 59:24
  feeling is they're getting towards the end of their tether.
• 59:28
  I think that their agenda's getting towards the end of its tether. We got this information that's getting out. Other people have similar information and I know Secretary of State is receiving
• 59:39
  citizenship
• 59:40
  evidence statements from a lot of different quarters now.
• 59:45
  And I know their financial system's right on the brink
• 59:48
  of of of of going under,
• 59:51
  and if they didn't have mister Trump up there, it'd probably already gone under. K? And if he wasn't running for reelection
• 59:57
  next year, which gives them a little bit of cushion,
• 1:00:02
  But they're running
• 1:00:03
  they're running tight on all the political stuff they've been able to control all over the world. They're not able to control it as much as they used to could as thoroughly and effectively,
• 1:00:13
  and you're seeing that too. You're seeing competition
• 1:00:16
  like Putin and China stepping into Venezuela and saying, come on in. Bring your military, boys.
• 1:00:23
  Listen. My buddy Jack has joined us. Our buddy Jack,
• 1:00:27
  who we hadn't spoken with Merry meeting Jack. A while. I see him all the time. But hey, Jack. How you doing this morning, man?
• 1:00:33
  Unknown: Hi, Jacks.
• 1:00:36
  Unknown: Hey, Roger.
• 1:00:37
  Hey, Jacks. What's
• 1:00:39
  going on? Chris.
• 1:00:40
  Unknown: Hi,
• 1:00:41
  Jack.
• 1:00:43
  Unknown: So yeah.
• 1:00:47
  Yeah. Great great
• 1:00:49
  Tuesday get together yesterday.
• 1:00:51
  And and
• 1:00:53
  the
• 1:00:55
  also wanted to mention about Rick Wiles.
• 1:00:58
  I don't know if this ever been brought up on the show.
• 1:01:01
  He has an orphanage here in Ecuador,
• 1:01:05
  and his wife
• 1:01:07
  and
• 1:01:08
  daughter
• 1:01:09
  and son-in-law
• 1:01:11
  have have ran it and
• 1:01:13
  were here full time for several years
• 1:01:17
  and are
• 1:01:18
  still in and out of Ecuador all the time.
• 1:01:21
  Unknown: Well, Jack, where is it? Where's the the orphanage? Down down in the
• 1:01:26
  Unknown: jungle is where it originally was
• 1:01:29
  and
• 1:01:31
  there's
• 1:01:33
  so much
• 1:01:36
  the Indians are bad about
• 1:01:39
  interbreeding
• 1:01:40
  in the family.
• 1:01:42
  And they had rescued
• 1:01:44
  some young girls that were getting abused
• 1:01:47
  and that caused
• 1:01:49
  a big fracas.
• 1:01:51
  And they wound up in Cuenca with the orphanage. I think now it's in Cuenca. Mhmm.
• 1:01:57
  A little more civilized.
• 1:01:59
  Unknown: There
• 1:02:00
  is a saying amongst the Talmudists that incest is best.
• 1:02:05
  Unknown: Oh
• 1:02:06
  my goodness.
• 1:02:07
  Unknown: Oh lord. As long as long as it's in some other ethnic group.
• 1:02:15
  Cory is listening in as best he can. He's on the road and said he would have called in and said hello but he just don't have quite that good a reception. We'll get him next week. I'm a get him on for a whole show and we'll explore a lot of this because I'm really excited about it and I sensed yesterday, Jack, that he was really excited about it too because I think he under he knew what was happening but he didn't really know, you know, and the example I'd bring up and I've told the story before,
• 1:02:43
  I guess you've heard it, was on my first trip to Argentina,
• 1:02:47
  the visit trip
• 1:02:48
  years ago and as I was boarding the plane there in Miami,
• 1:02:53
  I was traveling with my old buddy, Riggins, who was a real frequent international traveler and had all the stamps and everything where you could do everything real quick. Well, I didn't have all that, and so I had to go through and wait in line or whatever, and I go and see him sit over there.
• 1:03:09
  He'd been through it with his stamps and stuff, and he's talking to a male and a female,
• 1:03:14
  and so I
• 1:03:16
  went over and sat down. He goes, Roger, this is so and so and so and so, and they work at the embassy in Jamaica.
• 1:03:22
  Have you all heard me tell this story, but it's worth retelling?
• 1:03:25
  And I said, Oh, isn't that interesting? And so we got to shake hands, and just about as we'd finished saying, How you doing? They had the boarding call for the flight,
• 1:03:36
  and so everybody got up and went into the plane,
• 1:03:39
  and
• 1:03:40
  so we fly overnight. It's a long flight to Argentina,
• 1:03:44
  and so
• 1:03:45
  you fly overnight, everybody tries to sleep at least, and in the morning as the sun's coming up and somebody always throws one of the plane
• 1:03:55
  blinder
• 1:03:55
  things up and the sun floods the cabin, and of course,
• 1:04:00
  everybody needs to go to the bathroom at the same time,
• 1:04:03
  And so they get long lines at
• 1:04:07
  their couple of bathroom stations in those big planes.
• 1:04:10
  I was in the middle class
• 1:04:12
  coach back there, and so I go get in. Riggins is ahead of me a little bit, and low and behold,
• 1:04:19
  who's standing in front of me in line but this guy from the embassy?
• 1:04:24
  And so, now,
• 1:04:25
  I get a chance to talk to him and we're both captive audiences waiting for the bathroom, right? And so I go, Yeah, well it was just when people were starting to expatriate
• 1:04:35
  a bunch,
• 1:04:37
  and it was becoming news, okay? And so I said, Yeah, there's a lot of people that are expatriating
• 1:04:43
  and stuff I've seen lately, and he looks at me and he says, that's my job in the embassy.
• 1:04:50
  I mean, this is another like Cory be a sin to us, right? Then I go, do you know that there's two different types of hips in the country?
• 1:05:01
  And the guy goes, I
• 1:05:03
  don't know anything about that. You'd have to ask lawyers up in DC, and that guy left his place in line
• 1:05:09
  and got up the aisle on that plane like a scalded ass gazelle
• 1:05:14
  and went to another bathroom, and I never saw him again.
• 1:05:18
  Yeah.
• 1:05:22
  So that's why I my sense is that people like Cory
• 1:05:27
  like him,
• 1:05:28
  no, but they don't know the whole story and they don't have any idea of the fullness
• 1:05:33
  of its implications.
• 1:05:36
  So, I'm anxious to get with Cory when his schedule. I'm hoping we can maybe get together over the weekends and have lunch and where we can sit and talk for a few hours but we'll see.
• 1:05:45
  But that's a very serendipitous
• 1:05:47
  situation yesterday and I want to thank Jack publicly
• 1:05:51
  because Jack's the one that found him and plugged him into our group, I believe, aren't you?
• 1:05:57
  Unknown: Yeah, I mean, I could make that group have 50 members, Roger. Don't want to. I so desire to. Don't want to. And Patrick Patrick don't want me to have more than two or three. He's happy with it. He's really small.
• 1:06:11
  Unknown: Well, all of a sudden what happens is like yesterday, you walk in, they got two tables next to each other. Let me give you a scenario of the place because it's really a neat little place and somebody took a lot
• 1:06:25
  and put in a square,
• 1:06:27
  at least three sides,
• 1:06:29
  with shipping containers,
• 1:06:32
  and they cut the front off, and there's about eight different restaurants in there. It's like a mall food kiosk,
• 1:06:39
  and there's about eight or 10 different restaurants,
• 1:06:41
  all different cuisines,
• 1:06:43
  they're all pretty good,
• 1:06:44
  and in the middle there's a huge, and I mean a big avocado
• 1:06:48
  tree, and
• 1:06:50
  all the tables and stuff are under that section surrounded
• 1:06:54
  by these restaurants,
• 1:06:55
  okay? So, it's a real nice setting and we all enjoy it. Everybody's got a lot of different variety on what food you want to eat and stuff and that's kind of become our place,
• 1:07:05
  okay?
• 1:07:07
  And they like see us on Tuesday. So, you walk in yesterday
• 1:07:11
  and they got two tables together. Then, there are smaller tables, sit four chairs like normal small table.
• 1:07:18
  Two of em together and then all of a sudden, hell, before long we got four or five of those tables strung out, and now it's like a banquet table,
• 1:07:27
  and Jack's always at the other end, so I don't hardly ever get to see he came and moved over there by me yesterday when we were talking this stuff, but generally you can get isolated from the other people and then you don't have the fullness of an experience
• 1:07:41
  and I understand that, but it sure is nice to see ten, twelve, thirteen, fifteen people show up. Jack?
• 1:07:48
  Unknown: Yeah. That's a perfect number.
• 1:07:50
  Long in there.
• 1:07:52
  You
• 1:07:53
  know, I promote it on various expat groups and forums and social media a little like a throttle, a little bit like once every two months, forty five days.
• 1:08:03
  But if I was to do it once a week,
• 1:08:06
  we would we would crowd them out and then we would miss a a diamond in the rough like Corey, you know, coming along.
• 1:08:13
  With a big crowd, you just can't manage it.
• 1:08:17
  But, yeah, I'm really tickled with me
• 1:08:21
  going through my medical issues the last year and a half. It's been a pleasure to
• 1:08:26
  manage it and see it grow.
• 1:08:30
  Unknown: Quality, not quantity, quality. Yeah, man. Well, that's what we want. Yeah. And we got some very interesting characters in there. These guys that
• 1:08:38
  run a a motorcycle
• 1:08:41
  company up in Quito and they rent motorcycles and have tours all over the country, motorcycle tours and stuff.
• 1:08:49
  They're just some interesting people that's court and Ecuador
• 1:08:55
  Unknown: Freedom Bike Rental.
• 1:08:57
  Yeah. Dotcom. Yeah.
• 1:09:00
  Ten years in business. Yep.
• 1:09:03
  Right bunch. So, anyway,
• 1:09:06
  Unknown: it's nice down here. If any of y'all are looking at retiring or whatever or getting out of the country and
• 1:09:12
  if you've never traveled or anything, I think everybody has the same question, where the hell would I go?
• 1:09:18
  Well, I'm not saying you should move here, but as whatever your other interests are, you definitely ought to check this place out because it's an exceptional place.
• 1:09:29
  Unknown: Hey,
• 1:09:30
  Roger. Yes? If I might relate something that I observed related to the description you just gave of your auspicious eating location of container
• 1:09:39
  parkism as we have here in Las Vegas.
• 1:09:42
  I had gone to
• 1:09:45
  Mazatlan and then to the Sierra Madre on a
• 1:09:49
  pleasure bus trip while I was down there with my friend's father on a carrier dealer
• 1:09:55
  trip that was taken down to that place. And it was quite a several days thing. In fact, I got some caps for my teeth while I was down there from
• 1:10:05
  Loma Linda trained
• 1:10:07
  Japanese doctor married to a
• 1:10:09
  Mexican girl down there.
• 1:10:11
  And when we went to this bus
• 1:10:14
  trip, they stopped in near
• 1:10:17
  the Sierra Madre at an El Sicero Plaza in the center of town which they all seem to have. Yes. They do. And they took us a
• 1:10:25
  few blocks away, and we went through the front of this place on the street, through the kitchen, into this cutout in the mountain. It was kinda like a pocket back in there, cave like,
• 1:10:36
  and very
• 1:10:37
  proliferate with growth and trees and banana trees and so on and so forth. And in fact, their
• 1:10:43
  piece de resistance on the menu was their banana cream pie.
• 1:10:47
  And we had this wonderful
• 1:10:49
  dinner in this nice breeze place. They even had a pool table in there. And Musica, of course, it was proliferate,
• 1:10:56
  and it was just a wonderful dining experience. It sounds very akin to what you're doing down there. So I think that's part of the culture in South America. It is. It's the, believe me, Spanish
• 1:11:09
  Unknown: culture is totally different from
• 1:11:11
  the American English culture
• 1:11:13
  in many ways, okay, and that doesn't mean it's better or worse, it's just different,
• 1:11:19
  alright, that's like siesta,
• 1:11:21
  which they kind of practice here, but they don't practice at wholesale like they do in other parts of the continent, okay? Siesta,
• 1:11:28
  when it's strictly adhered to,
• 1:11:31
  is like have you ever worked a double shift, Chris?
• 1:11:36
  I have. A split shift? Not a double shift. Not a not a double shift. A split shift.
• 1:11:42
  Twenty two hours straight at the convention center. No. No. That no. That's not a split shift. That's a continuous shift. I'm talking about when you come in. I know you take a break in. Uh-huh. So you come in and you work for four hours in the morning and you go take four, five hours off and you come back and finish up four, five hours in in the evening.
• 1:12:01
  That's a split shift, okay?
• 1:12:04
  Well, that's in these Spanish cultures, that's what life is like. Life is living a split shift when you got siesta,
• 1:12:10
  okay? And it's real different, and it takes a little bit of time to acclimate to, but I will tell you, once you get in the habit and acclimated to siesta,
• 1:12:21
  you will like it.
• 1:12:26
  People want to cast aspersions on them and say, Oh man, they're lazy, they go up and sleep afternoon.
• 1:12:33
  Well, where I was,
• 1:12:35
  it could get up to a hundred and five and a hundred and ten in the afternoon in the High Desert. Do you wanna be out there working in the wine fields when it's a 100 and damn 10 degrees in the afternoon, Chris?
• 1:12:47
  Unknown: Absolutely
• 1:12:48
  Unknown: not. It would be insane to do so. You robbed a guy doing that. Okay, almost suicide in some instances, correct? And so that's what they do is they go to sleep during the hot part of the day and then get up and finish work in the evening when it's cool.
• 1:13:01
  Does that make em lazy?
• 1:13:02
  Hell, it sounds like it makes them pretty damn smart to me.
• 1:13:08
  Unknown: Either that's
• 1:13:10
  that's saying again that you can change the circumstances but you can't change the consequences.
• 1:13:15
  Unknown: Well, it also shows you the bias of people that won't look at things objectively.
• 1:13:22
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:13:23
  You ignore the fact. They're liable to bite you the bit. Okay. When you jump to conclusions and make assertions
• 1:13:29
  Unknown: that are nowhere and even near correct.
• 1:13:31
  Okay, I'll give you another example. Jack, they don't do that here that I've noticed, but in Argentina,
• 1:13:37
  if you're driving, not everybody does it, but the older folks seem to, If you're driving down, let's say, a pretty congested two lane road,
• 1:13:46
  and you need to turn left
• 1:13:49
  against the oncoming traffic,
• 1:13:52
  right?
• 1:13:53
  So you wait in the middle, put your blinker on, and you sit there and wait till there's an opening on that line of traffic so you can turn safely, right?
• 1:14:04
  Alright. You know how they do it down there?
• 1:14:08
  Pull over to the right. They pull over to the right and they wait until there's clearing in both lanes of traffic so they don't cause an accident.
• 1:14:17
  Somebody rear end somebody coming along and didn't realize they're stopped to make a left turn, so they stopped everybody else behind them.
• 1:14:28
  Now, is that better? Is that stupid? Is it crazy?
• 1:14:31
  It makes a lot of sense to me, and
• 1:14:35
  I understand that it works. I understand why they do it. But for somebody going down there the first time and seeing it and go, look at that crazy idiot over there on the right side with his left blinker on.
• 1:14:49
  Unknown: Yeah. It
• 1:14:50
  there is a small percentage of them here that do it in Ecuador.
• 1:14:54
  I have noticed it, but not often. It's about like the percentage of
• 1:14:59
  how many do the
• 1:15:02
  Unknown: siesta. Maybe maybe fifteen, twenty five percent, something like that. Well, boy, I'll tell you, siesta is a nice habit to fall into.
• 1:15:10
  And since I've moved out here in the country, I've been exercising it more.
• 1:15:15
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:15:16
  Unknown: Yeah. It's nice. Yep. Like rebooting the computer, you know, get a good fresh Well, here's the bad part is, so you lay down, you go in, here's my routine. I finished the program about noon.
• 1:15:28
  I'll do the rest of stuff I gotta do. I go in about maybe
• 1:15:32
  one or between
• 1:15:34
  one and two and fix me some lunch and I have a nice lunch
• 1:15:38
  and then I'm sleepy
• 1:15:40
  and so then it's siesta and I go in there and say, well, I think I'll do forty five minutes or an hour today.
• 1:15:47
  And so I set my little music thing for to give us a nice little background music and I put the timer on and when it goes off, I reach over and turn it off and wake up two hours later.
• 1:16:00
  But
• 1:16:03
  it's nice to not have the demands on you when you do that, I've been really catching up on my sleep and it feels good.
• 1:16:10
  So anyway, Jack, did you have anything you wanted to bring to the table or You just wanna join us? We hadn't talked to you in a while on the air anyway.
• 1:16:18
  Unknown: Oh, no.
• 1:16:19
  Just
• 1:16:21
  also,
• 1:16:24
  Corey's wife is a
• 1:16:26
  a very high profile
• 1:16:29
  immigration attorney.
• 1:16:32
  Oh. And I've I've known her for about ten years
• 1:16:36
  off and on over the years.
• 1:16:38
  She's done some
• 1:16:40
  of my Texas oil and gas guys
• 1:16:43
  visas and real estate property
• 1:16:46
  closings and stuff. She's
• 1:16:49
  a full service law firm but primarily
• 1:16:52
  Unknown: visas. Oh, man. Well, so when I get into this legal stuff and all this stuff, I'll get to talk to both of them.
• 1:16:59
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. That would be the I nine, I think, that they're looking for in the visa department for the substantially similar
• 1:17:07
  to The US noncitizen
• 1:17:09
  Unknown: national passport. Well, now an I nine is an employment form.
• 1:17:27
  Unknown: Boy, they Traveling
• 1:17:29
  Unknown: Visa. Yes. Uh-huh. Boy, they treat these people. Yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Unknown: It's difficult for me to try to get
• 1:17:37
  my
• 1:17:38
  common law wife
• 1:17:40
  trying to get her into The US this fall.
• 1:17:43
  It's been a
• 1:17:44
  a tough journey, but we're we're hoping to get it get it rounded up.
• 1:17:51
  Unknown: Hey, Jack. I have a question. How's your health?
• 1:17:55
  Unknown: Been
• 1:17:56
  I've been two weeks. No chemo. No radiation.
• 1:18:00
  And Alright.
• 1:18:02
  We'll get about two more weeks, I'll have a comparison study of my CAT scans from a year or so ago to what it looks like now.
• 1:18:11
  And, I'm looking for them to tell me go home for ninety days.
• 1:18:16
  That's what I'm hoping for. Or maybe get some more high definition scanning, get a PET scan,
• 1:18:23
  maybe a little cleanup surgery.
• 1:18:25
  And that would mean a little bit more radiation maybe. I'm in a in limbo right now, but
• 1:18:31
  I look forward to my Tuesday
• 1:18:33
  lunch outings. That's about all I do. It's
• 1:18:37
  Unknown: a high point. It's a high point of the week,
• 1:18:40
  really. Roger too. Roger don't get out much more. No, that's about the
• 1:18:45
  only day I go to town.
• 1:18:48
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:18:50
  And
• 1:18:51
  Unknown: I look forward to it, Really do. Jack, why don't you tell him? Jack's had a lot of problems here lately because he's got the when he was in especially in the radiation thing,
• 1:19:01
  and they've got those things are calibrated as as you can imagine
• 1:19:06
  down to real specific calibration
• 1:19:09
  so that they can
• 1:19:12
  make sure he
• 1:19:13
  doesn't get the wrong place radiated,
• 1:19:15
  okay? And what happened here, what, a month ago, six weeks ago, Jack? Is they had that February
• 1:19:22
  Unknown: four point February 18. How big was that earthquake down there? Seven seven point five, but it was it was very deep. It was a 123
• 1:19:32
  miles deep
• 1:19:33
  and way south in the Peru border, South
• 1:19:37
  Jungle area, Amazon.
• 1:19:40
  But it was felt all over the country.
• 1:19:43
  Unknown: It knocked knocked my machine out of calibration. So and they don't have the money because Ecuador's in such bad financial situation, they had to out Julian Assaj to get an IMF loan,
• 1:19:54
  and so they don't have the money to get all those things recalibrated,
• 1:19:58
  so it really has put a hitch in Jack's giddy up in the final stages of his treatment here.
• 1:20:04
  Unknown: Yeah,
• 1:20:05
  I was down for two or three weeks and then
• 1:20:09
  they sent me they never did get my machine fixed but sent me next door to another machine that felt
• 1:20:15
  stronger or else they just turned up the juice and knocked
• 1:20:19
  me on out with a total of
• 1:20:22
  42
• 1:20:24
  daily radiation treatments.
• 1:20:26
  They put a a fiberglass mask, fitted over custom fitted over my head and shoulders and nail my ass down to a metal slab
• 1:20:35
  before they roll me into the oven.
• 1:20:39
  And
• 1:20:41
  so I can't move. And if you were at least a little bit claustrophobic,
• 1:20:44
  takes ten, fifteen minutes of just sitting still and while this thing's
• 1:20:49
  whirring around your head in seven, eight, 10 different positions.
• 1:20:55
  I'm really glad to be done with it, to be honest with you.
• 1:20:58
  Unknown: Well, I'm gonna tell you. That
• 1:21:00
  I
• 1:21:01
  would love hold on for your question, Shane. Let me make a comment.
• 1:21:05
  And I
• 1:21:06
  all of us have been shocked at how well Jack has weathered this.
• 1:21:12
  Unknown: Hoorah.
• 1:21:13
  Unknown: Okay. Now, Shane, your Yes.
• 1:21:17
  Unknown: Jack, have you ever tried well, I'm not necessarily
• 1:21:20
  well, actually, I am promoting it. It's called 90 for life. It's with Youngevity,
• 1:21:26
  and it's
• 1:21:28
  See? To help rebuild the muscles and rebuild the the all the good stuff in the body. It replay it gives the body what the body needs. It it
• 1:21:41
  Shane Have you ever tried non Michelin?
• 1:21:43
  Unknown: Youngevity,
• 1:21:44
  of course, I've heard of Youngevity brand, but not that particular.
• 1:21:49
  I'm doing c sixty and,
• 1:21:52
  you know, drinking magnesium
• 1:21:54
  and various things but
• 1:21:57
  I've heard a lot of good things about Youngevity in general.
• 1:22:01
  Unknown: Well, you know, the problem with it, Shane,
• 1:22:03
  you know the problem with Youngevity
• 1:22:06
  here?
• 1:22:08
  Forgetting it here. It's get it's getting your hands on it.
• 1:22:14
  Unknown: Yeah. Alright.
• 1:22:16
  Unknown: This this might it's a foreign aspect to a lot of people up there in The US that just get online and order Amazon, Amazon, order order
• 1:22:23
  Herbalife or whatever you're into. And it comes right to your door in two or three days. Well, here here,
• 1:22:30
  it's not
• 1:22:32
  our our tariffs and and taxes
• 1:22:35
  on imports
• 1:22:36
  are so
• 1:22:38
  ridiculously crazy.
• 1:22:41
  We just and our mail service is just about nonexistent.
• 1:22:44
  Just,
• 1:22:46
  you you mail a postcard home. It might get there in ninety days if it ever gets there at all.
• 1:22:53
  Unknown: No, he's not Cannot bring you and Roger
• 1:22:56
  Unknown: both
• 1:22:57
  a
• 1:22:59
  Unknown: 94 life package. Well, you know, what we need is somebody that'd be a carrier and wants to come down here once a month and bring us a bunch of stuff.
• 1:23:10
  Unknown: Yeah, I mean, we can coordinate, you know, we can we can coordinate having it sent to somebody that's going up for a visit. Like when Roger went to see his mom in Panama City,
• 1:23:20
  he stocked up on things and had things waiting on him. There's a way to get around it, but gosh, it takes planning and a $1,200 airline ticket or a $800 airline ticket according to what time of year it is. And the thing is is the with the with the
• 1:23:36
  Unknown: diminution, if you will, of cash because we're in a liquidity crunch worldwide,
• 1:23:41
  not as many people are traveling these days. Have you noticed, Jack?
• 1:23:46
  Unknown: Right. Yeah.
• 1:23:48
  Yeah.
• 1:23:49
  Unknown: The other thing hold
• 1:23:51
  on, Shane. I got a follow-up to this. Now the other question that's in the back of your mind is, well, can't you just mail the stuff down there?
• 1:24:00
  Yeah. Yeah. You can. You can. But then you got an obstacle. I'm a give you the Spanish name here, Shane. Now you got an obstacle called Adewana.
• 1:24:12
  You know what Adewana is?
• 1:24:16
  Unknown: Try
• 1:24:17
  Unknown: customs.
• 1:24:22
  When
• 1:24:24
  you mail anything from outside the country, it goes to customs because they want to check and see what you're bringing in. They want to make sure you're not smuggling anything in you're not supposed to, and they want to see if they can whip some damn tax on you, okay?
• 1:24:37
  So now you don't go to the post office,
• 1:24:41
  you go to Attawana,
• 1:24:43
  and how long's the wait usually at Attawana? I don't even go, I got fed up with this in Argentina.
• 1:24:49
  How long's the wait at Attawana, Jack, here?
• 1:24:53
  Unknown: Oh gosh. It
• 1:24:54
  can take three months,
• 1:24:56
  six months, or not get it at all. They'll they'll steal the stuff in the package.
• 1:25:01
  It's a four by four rule.
• 1:25:03
  $400
• 1:25:05
  value,
• 1:25:06
  less than $400 value,
• 1:25:08
  four kilograms, about eight pounds.
• 1:25:11
  And then there's gonna be a $42
• 1:25:13
  win, lose, or draw. It's gonna be $42 tacked onto that if you ever get it.
• 1:25:19
  If you're ever able to even get it. And no electronics.
• 1:25:22
  You cannot have any electronics. There's a lot of forbidden stuff
• 1:25:25
  that would get into
• 1:25:27
  the
• 1:25:29
  monopoly
• 1:25:30
  men of Ecuador that own the the various department stores and stuff that don't want you circumventing their cell phone racket,
• 1:25:37
  their laptop racket. They all cost three times more.
• 1:25:42
  Unknown: So, Jack,
• 1:25:44
  how much is a ticket to get there?
• 1:25:47
  Unknown: Well, what part of the country are you coming from?
• 1:25:49
  Where you are.
• 1:25:51
  Rio? Where you What's your your
• 1:25:54
  Unknown: point? He'd be around San Francisco.
• 1:25:58
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:25:59
  I think it'll be, like, around Dallas Fort Worth.
• 1:26:02
  Unknown: Damn. You live in Silicon Valley.
• 1:26:06
  Unknown: I know. But because y'all connect to him.
• 1:26:09
  Unknown: Here. Yeah. Are you gonna hitchhike? You're gonna you're
• 1:26:12
  gonna hitchhike down to DFW,
• 1:26:14
  are you?
• 1:26:17
  Unknown: Silly.
• 1:26:18
  Unknown: I wanna say I wanna say
• 1:26:21
  that American is doing Dallas Fort Worth now every night.
• 1:26:25
  Leave about 05:30, get here about 10:10 fifteen, five hour, fifteen minute flight.
• 1:26:31
  If you do it in advance,
• 1:26:33
  way out, three, four, six months out,
• 1:26:36
  you could get one for $7.50 in economy.
• 1:26:40
  Unknown: That's round trip, Shay. That's round trip. Yeah.
• 1:26:43
  Unknown: Yes. Right. If you wait till the last minute, it could be $1,200.
• 1:26:48
  Or more. We got we got Houston United
• 1:26:51
  every night. We got Atlanta Delta every night. We got JetBlue out of Fort Lauderdale every night. JetBlue is really economical. It's for about $3.50. If you're in advance. Especially if you live in the Southeast part of the country or they've got connecting routes with JetBlue. You can catch like, for instance, out of Raleigh.
• 1:27:10
  Unknown: JetBlue's got a terminal up in Raleigh, I know. And I'm sure they just fly it, do the connecting flight through Fort Lauderdale, and send you on down.
• 1:27:18
  It's not a bad flight. It really is a quick flight compared to Argentina.
• 1:27:24
  Unknown: That's a long flight, man. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.
• 1:27:29
  Yeah.
• 1:27:30
  Roger, you know, the other day we were talking about you you desire to go visit Panama City. You desire to go visit Argentina.
• 1:27:37
  From right here to Ecuador,
• 1:27:40
  Unknown: you're still closer and cheaper back to Florida, right, than you would be I don't know. I haven't checked. Try to I haven't checked in all honesty, but the one the flight to Buenos Aires, Atlanta
• 1:27:50
  has a one way
• 1:27:52
  straight ticket instead of having going to Lima
• 1:27:55
  or something else.
• 1:27:56
  And if I go to Panama City, gotta go through Atlanta and catch a connecting flight. I've mentioned it on the air before, but let me just tell people that might be entertaining this,
• 1:28:06
  if you've got wanderlust,
• 1:28:08
  if you really like traveling
• 1:28:10
  and you're 65
• 1:28:12
  and you choose to come down here and get your residency,
• 1:28:16
  which you'd want to do to be able to stay here and be able to do everything without hassles,
• 1:28:21
  you can go now
• 1:28:23
  as long as you've got the sedula, which is the ID card,
• 1:28:26
  and you go and book it through a travel agency,
• 1:28:30
  if you're 65,
• 1:28:32
  you get 50%
• 1:28:33
  off on the outgoing flight and 50%
• 1:28:37
  on the incoming flight, you have to leave from Ecuador,
• 1:28:41
  but this is what it did for me last year, and some of you can remember me talking about this, because I had waited till the last minute, relatively, within two weeks to buy that ticket,
• 1:28:51
  and I went on supposedly the big discount Google thing, which people tell me is the best for prices,
• 1:28:57
  and the cheapest price I could get was $2,300
• 1:29:00
  And
• 1:29:01
  I got my Sedula on that Friday,
• 1:29:04
  and I went down that weekend to the mall at the travel agent
• 1:29:08
  boutique down there, and my flight was $700
• 1:29:14
  Unknown: Yes, sir. Because because he's 65 or older, they give him half off the
• 1:29:19
  Unknown: taxes and penalties on top of the ticket. And if you book it in advance, you still get that off of the advance fares too.
• 1:29:29
  Yes sir. So, I mean, you could fly to Europe, I can go over to Europe and fly over to Amsterdam and back half price on each leg.
• 1:29:39
  Unknown: Back half So
• 1:29:40
  Unknown: that's a pretty cool I don't never heard of any other country in the world having that set up for their people. That's a pretty neat thing. I like
• 1:29:51
  Unknown: get half off your power bill. I
• 1:29:54
  Unknown: get half off my power bill?
• 1:29:56
  Unknown: Yeah. If you if it was in your name, it was your home, you would get half off of your utilities,
• 1:30:02
  power, water,
• 1:30:03
  telephone,
• 1:30:04
  everything's half off. There you go. Airfare.
• 1:30:09
  Unknown: See? So there you know, it's like getting old that maybe has some perks along the way.
• 1:30:16
  You know, my dad used Yeah, to tell me they're older than me. My father used to hammer this into me
• 1:30:23
  when I was young and doing stupid stuff, you know, like all of us did. Some of us still do it, but most of us did it proliferately when we were younger,
• 1:30:31
  And my dad would look at me and he'd go, youth is so wonderful. It's a shame it's wasted on the young.
• 1:30:38
  And
• 1:30:42
  I think about that all the time dealing with these some of these arrogant young people that come into my realm every now and then.
• 1:30:50
  Hey, old man. How are you doing? I said, I'm doing fine and I'm still old. How are you doing, you young upstart
• 1:30:57
  punk with no respect for your elders, you know?
• 1:31:06
  There's
• 1:31:07
  a one
• 1:31:10
  pH litmus test right there
• 1:31:13
  and it's interesting in this culture, Jack, because it's so predominantly
• 1:31:17
  Catholic
• 1:31:18
  and they don't teach those virtues
• 1:31:21
  in the Catholic church like they do evidently in the Protestant area of things like biblical, like respect your elders.
• 1:31:30
  Right. I mean, I've run into a bunch of young people down here who have no concept of that concept.
• 1:31:39
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:31:42
  Unknown: Okay,
• 1:31:43
  so let's see, we're getting in the back part of the program here. What else you got to bring to us today, Jack, that's worth discussing or anybody else? If anybody wants to call in,
• 1:31:52
  let me give you the call in number.
• 1:31:54
  It's 404,
• 1:31:56
  if you didn't know it already, you hadn't looked on the website over there at peoplespatriotnetwork.com
• 1:32:00
  to find it, I'll give it to you. 40444814204044481420,
• 1:32:12
  call
• 1:32:15
  in and say hello. If you got a question, we'd welcome it, and if you got an observation, we'll listen.
• 1:32:21
  Lot of people won't listen to your observations, we will.
• 1:32:26
  Unknown: Yeah, concerning the disrespect of the young folks, I believe that's one of the end time signs, they'll
• 1:32:33
  have no love
• 1:32:35
  mother or father or no no respect for their elders.
• 1:32:41
  That's a
• 1:32:42
  common denominator.
• 1:32:44
  It seems like even back home from what I understand still.
• 1:32:48
  Oh, it's just hooked on video games. Video games, video games, virtual reality.
• 1:32:54
  No social intercourse face to face.
• 1:32:57
  Unknown: Well, know, what we were talking we were talking about earlier
• 1:33:00
  is you can turn your back on reality, but you can't turn your back on the consequences
• 1:33:05
  of turning your back on reality.
• 1:33:12
  Chickens
• 1:33:13
  do come home to roost, the swallows do come to Capistrano
• 1:33:17
  every year still, don't they, Shane?
• 1:33:22
  Unknown: Yes.
• 1:33:23
  And
• 1:33:25
  what's
• 1:33:26
  the thing? Thank
• 1:33:28
  you for showing up.
• 1:33:30
  What's new and exciting for you?
• 1:33:35
  Tell us.
• 1:33:36
  Unknown: Well, wait a minute. We got somebody new that showed up and I'll just ask them. Doug, what's new and exciting for you?
• 1:33:45
  Unknown: Oh, life is exciting every day as I'm sure Jack will agree.
• 1:33:50
  Better than Yes. Yes. Better
• 1:33:53
  better than bad breath than no breath.
• 1:33:59
  Unknown: Yeah. Every day that above ground and they're not throwing dirt in your face is a great day. Doug
• 1:34:06
  Unknown: Douglas, welcome to the show. You sent me an email over the weekend, said call me about something about an affidavit of mine. And I just I've been swamped and I've, you know, I kinda take my time on the weekends as as something kinda precious to me, and I try not to interrupt it too much. What did you have on your mind about this affidavit?
• 1:34:24
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:34:25
  I was going through my files. I was looking for something on my different hard drives and files
• 1:34:32
  in general,
• 1:34:34
  computer
• 1:34:35
  files,
• 1:34:36
  and
• 1:34:37
  I saw this thing, Roger Sales
• 1:34:41
  2011.
• 1:34:43
  And it was an affidavit
• 1:34:46
  I'd have to look at my notes here, but it was like an affidavit of
• 1:34:52
  antislavery
• 1:34:53
  or something. And so I was kind of
• 1:34:57
  Unknown: Let me let me say one thing. And before I go
• 1:35:00
  well, wait a minute. Before you go any further, let me just tell you. I've only got one affidavit
• 1:35:04
  that I've ever used, and it's the one I filed originally with John and Glenn back in 1992.
• 1:35:10
  So there's no differentiation
• 1:35:12
  on any other affidavits I've done. If that's what it is, somebody put an antislavery.
• 1:35:18
  Well, yeah, that's what it is,
• 1:35:20
  but it's
• 1:35:21
  probably that five page affidavit.
• 1:35:24
  Unknown: Ah, I see. Well,
• 1:35:27
  I just got excited
• 1:35:29
  because I thought, hey. I wonder if Roger doesn't have this and he'd like to have it. Now I didn't know what it was. I well, I did open it up, but I didn't read it or anything.
• 1:35:40
  Well I was just like
• 1:35:42
  a kid in a candy shop. I thought, hey, I bet Roger would really like to have this if he doesn't. And so and I didn't have your
• 1:35:52
  I looked
• 1:35:54
  you know, I make notes every day and and and, you know, sometimes
• 1:35:59
  it's a couple of pages of notes on all kinds of subjects
• 1:36:03
  that I study and that I'm interested in.
• 1:36:07
  So I thought, well,
• 1:36:09
  I'll contact him, but I didn't have. I looked for the other the new address,
• 1:36:15
  and so that's
• 1:36:17
  that's the other half of this
• 1:36:19
  part here. Okay.
• 1:36:21
  Unknown: You give that to me?
• 1:36:23
  Unknown: I'll be happy to give it to you and everybody else because I kinda opened it lately just to have a fallback email address we can use on the air
• 1:36:32
  and throw it out there and not get it clogged with spam like my other ones have been from doing that.
• 1:36:38
  And it's Radio Ranch, one word, it's two words, but as one word, radioranchmail,
• 1:36:44
  M A I L, like the postal mail, mail dot com,
• 1:36:49
  and you can send it there. Anybody wants to reach out and touch me, you can touch me there. I have some nice
• 1:36:55
  emails come in there from
• 1:36:58
  people all over the world that are listeners
• 1:37:00
  one way or another, either simulcast on Eurofolk or whatever that take time to sit down and write me really nice emails, and I appreciate it.
• 1:37:09
  Those are always really nice Well, what I'll do
• 1:37:14
  Unknown: yeah. What I'll do is, I'll put it on a sticky note and put it I've got a two monitor system. I'll put it on that,
• 1:37:21
  And then I'll also put it in my permanent file where I keep important
• 1:37:26
  Okay. Information
• 1:37:28
  that relates to important
• 1:37:31
  Unknown: very important people like yourself. Oh, yes. And the rest of the
• 1:37:36
  Unknown: Influential.
• 1:37:37
  You forgot you forgot influential.
• 1:37:39
  Unknown: Used to be a
• 1:37:41
  oh, I used to be a she shine boy. Not really, but
• 1:37:45
  Unknown: you get my meaning there. I really was. Yeah. As a kid.
• 1:37:49
  Unknown: Do you do you guys want me to Yeah. You want me to drag out my Johnny Cash rendition?
• 1:37:55
  Let's let me see if I can get this here. A little shoeshine boy used to get low down, and he's got the dirtiest job in town, shining shoes on the people's feet on the dirtiest corner of the Windy Street. Well, I asked him while I shine my shoes, how you keep from getting the blues? He grinned as he shaved his little head. He popped his shoeshine ragging. Then he said,
• 1:38:16
  get rhythm
• 1:38:18
  when
• 1:38:19
  you get the blue. Y'all remember that?
• 1:38:24
  Unknown: Excellent. Excellent.
• 1:38:28
  Unknown: Lord. Yeah. There there's a bit of recall for you.
• 1:38:34
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:38:36
  other thing that really caused me to call
• 1:38:39
  was,
• 1:38:41
  I don't know, but I'm thinking I see in my future a trip to
• 1:38:47
  you.
• 1:38:48
  Unknown: Doug, you'd enjoy coming down here, and I'd really advise any of you just want to get out if it's cold next winter or whatever, it's a nice place,
• 1:38:56
  and the climate, I got to tell you, if you were thinking about entertaining the fact of maybe moving down here, and we discussed this among ourselves,
• 1:39:06
  I don't think there's another spot on the face of the earth where you can get the climate and everything that this offers for the price that
• 1:39:14
  you pay to live here, although
• 1:39:16
  something came up at lunch yesterday, Jack, and I don't know if you were there when it was said because we were at the ice cream stop
• 1:39:23
  is Yeah. That Ecuador has
• 1:39:26
  has the highest cost of living of any country in South America.
• 1:39:30
  Unknown: Yeah. That that's,
• 1:39:33
  you know,
• 1:39:35
  I could I could disagree with that a little bit.
• 1:39:39
  Only
• 1:39:40
  because of where we live, Roger, Kumbaya Tumbaco
• 1:39:44
  is pricey,
• 1:39:45
  and and it puts us
• 1:39:47
  in a in a first world environment.
• 1:39:51
  But there's other areas of Ecuador, of course, that the size of Colorado, same square miles,
• 1:39:57
  that you can live much more economically
• 1:40:00
  than other parts of Latin America,
• 1:40:03
  other parts of South America.
• 1:40:06
  And, of course,
• 1:40:07
  Kumbaya,
• 1:40:08
  Tumbaco
• 1:40:10
  Kumbaya, York, and Tumbaco, Jersey are the highest
• 1:40:14
  Unknown: places to live throughout In the the country. So if we were asking entertaining
• 1:40:19
  a question from somebody in the audience, and this is a question that I get occasionally and I know you probably for sure have over the years,
• 1:40:28
  and the question is be, well, how much it cost me to live comfortably down there?
• 1:40:33
  Unknown: A couple needs to have and plan on about $151,600
• 1:40:37
  dollars a month to to be able to go out to eat and go to the movies, go to theater and do things, you know.
• 1:40:45
  Like like, you'd
• 1:40:47
  Unknown: live well on about 1,600 a month, a couple. You get up into a cup 2 or 3,000 a month, you can live like a veritable king.
• 1:40:57
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. In a in a good location
• 1:41:00
  as well. A good convenient to everything
• 1:41:04
  that we have, which is four story open air malls and and
• 1:41:09
  two of it with a closing canopy on it. They just put on it.
• 1:41:15
  Unknown: Do you think if you were in Kumbaya and came down here just cold, you'd think you were in any other American city, really?
• 1:41:23
  People might look a little bit different,
• 1:41:25
  but a lot of people speak English and it's very modern.
• 1:41:31
  Unknown: Yeah, after
• 1:41:33
  Unknown: Go ahead. No houses, Chris, this would be a little bit of a hitch in your giddy up, there are no houses built down here with air conditioning or heating facilities.
• 1:41:46
  Unknown: And it's not needed. 55, 77,
• 1:41:49
  day and night. 55 low, 77 high and it's it's still what it is. You're on the Equator.
• 1:41:56
  No variation.
• 1:41:58
  Unknown: And the sun rises and sets the same time every day except for daylight savings time for those of us who have to adjust to it. It's a it's an interesting place to live. I really thank Jack because if Jack and I wouldn't have crossed paths so many years ago in Atlanta,
• 1:42:13
  I I doubt that I'd be here.
• 1:42:17
  Unknown: 06:15AM
• 1:42:19
  comes up, 06:15PM
• 1:42:21
  goes down. It's three sixty five.
• 1:42:24
  Yeah. Yeah. You're you're most welcome, Roger.
• 1:42:28
  Glad to have you. Well,
• 1:42:30
  Unknown: it's tonight. We're getting a nice group of people down here and that's a real let me tell you what, for and and if you're living in a foreign country, having a support group
• 1:42:38
  is really important.
• 1:42:42
  Unknown: Oh, you you can get homesick. Now, I've been here ten years, ten going on eleven and I would have I've never had homesickness till I got a a chronic illness And I got a little taste of homesickness.
• 1:42:54
  But other than that,
• 1:42:56
  there's a lot of good folks and the Ecuadorians
• 1:42:58
  in general. Like
• 1:43:00
  anywhere
• 1:43:01
  on the planet,
• 1:43:03
  can find some very nice Ecuadorians to hang with.
• 1:43:08
  Matrimony wise. You can also find some some female
• 1:43:13
  companionship as well.
• 1:43:18
  Unknown: Chris The HVAC community is a big help. It's a big help to everybody. Would be a pretty big disadvantage down here because to my knowledge, they don't do line dancing down here.
• 1:43:33
  Hell, a man left. A. Dosey right. Doug, you were gonna say something a minute ago, I thought. Did you have a comment or a question, buddy?
• 1:43:42
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:43:43
  well, yeah. But since my last comment, I grew up doing square dancing,
• 1:43:49
  you know, amongst
• 1:43:51
  other
• 1:43:51
  things.
• 1:43:53
  But that was that was a family affair. It was wonderful.
• 1:43:59
  There'd be, like, 50 people on a Saturday night.
• 1:44:02
  When I was young, you know, they would just,
• 1:44:07
  shoot the kids outside,
• 1:44:09
  and we'd play hide and seek and all kinds of other games. But as I grew up,
• 1:44:13
  you know, it got to the point of even buying the costumes and and that kind of thing. Well, mine didn't, but my parents did. So it was just a wonderful
• 1:44:23
  square dancing event
• 1:44:25
  and a big,
• 1:44:26
  you know, feast and and all of that stuff on Saturday night. But I was gonna say that when I think of Ecuador,
• 1:44:35
  correct me if I'm wrong,
• 1:44:37
  I think of it as being
• 1:44:39
  balanced, equal,
• 1:44:41
  each side equal, like like the,
• 1:44:44
  you know, the justice woman there, you know, but this has to do with temperature and a lot of other things.
• 1:44:51
  And it just sounds like a type of paradise
• 1:44:56
  to
• 1:44:57
  to live in.
• 1:44:59
  That's that New England accent. I don't say to, I say to, to live in. But
• 1:45:05
  Unknown: yeah. Well, you're you're right.
• 1:45:08
  Doug, your observations are correct in many respects,
• 1:45:12
  but what I didn't realize until I was talking to Jack and then came up here, and I haven't done a lot of travel and I haven't gone anywhere since I've been here in two years, okay, but
• 1:45:22
  Ecuador has a very, very unique attribute.
• 1:45:25
  It has every microclimate
• 1:45:28
  in the world in one country.
• 1:45:31
  Unknown: Virtually. Nice. Well, I
• 1:45:34
  I've told you in the past I'm a woodsman. I I like to travel
• 1:45:38
  around,
• 1:45:40
  and I like the woods. I've I've never I've been the closest I've been into jungle,
• 1:45:46
  but I didn't travel in it,
• 1:45:48
  was when I went on a vacation with a buddy of mine to do some scuba diving in Hawaii,
• 1:45:56
  we visited some islands,
• 1:45:58
  but you could drive away from,
• 1:46:01
  the city
• 1:46:02
  and,
• 1:46:03
  and then you'd be, you know, you could you'd be in volcanic.
• 1:46:08
  Dope.
• 1:46:09
  That kind of
• 1:46:12
  Unknown: Let me let me make this statement.
• 1:46:14
  Ecuador is Hawaii on the cheap.
• 1:46:18
  Unknown: Cool.
• 1:46:19
  Unknown: Right? Yeah. Yeah. Especially our coasts. Our our coast will really put you in mind of Hawaii
• 1:46:26
  big time.
• 1:46:27
  Unknown: I mean, of course, we where we are you
• 1:46:30
  gotta understand where we are, we're up at 8,000
• 1:46:33
  feet, and the main city next door is at 9,500,
• 1:46:38
  and the volcano that's on one side of it is what, Jack, fourteen five?
• 1:46:45
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:46:46
  4100%.
• 1:46:47
  Unknown: Say Jack. Yes,
• 1:46:48
  sir. Wow. You still got those dome homes down there where you're located?
• 1:46:54
  Unknown: There there are people that are doing dome homes. Yeah. I
• 1:46:59
  Unknown: thought you had, rentals of those things.
• 1:47:02
  I'm kinda curious about that. You know, I built a pretty big one down there in the middle of Arizona that I might wanna stay in if I stay in The US, but I may not be able to stay in The US because of the dangerous course it's taking right now, which seems to pull on
• 1:47:19
  Zionist Talmudic communism, if you will.
• 1:47:22
  Unknown: Have you got your
• 1:47:24
  passport, Chris? Uh-oh.
• 1:47:26
  Unknown: Uh-oh. He asked some issues. He asked the magic. He asked the magic question,
• 1:47:33
  Unknown: Did I'm in communication with the secretary of state on Mercure Drive trying to solve why they haven't provided and complied with their,
• 1:47:43
  duty to provide honest services and breach of contract,
• 1:47:48
  relation. I have complaint into the secretary of state's, inspector general regarding that knot supplication.
• 1:47:54
  Unknown: Well, you see, if Corey was on board, he may could give us some pointers on where to go to take care of some of that stuff. Well, I was thinking that I look forward to hearing mister Corey's
• 1:48:05
  Unknown: contributions and he'll be a welcome asset to this endeavor.
• 1:48:09
  Unknown: Well, you know, Jack, when you ask him that question, what slept in my mind was remember Groucho Marks, you bet your life. Remember that? And when they say. Was it good? It's not coming down.
• 1:48:24
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:48:29
  Unknown: that's what I thought of.
• 1:48:36
  Unknown: Oh,
• 1:48:37
  we're down to Manford.
• 1:48:40
  Unknown: We're devolving
• 1:48:41
  we're devolving here towards the end of the show, but it's a really nice comfortable program, and I like this kind of atmosphere of You know, this
• 1:48:50
  after yesterday yesterday's show was pretty serious,
• 1:48:53
  okay? I mean, we covered some real fertile ground yesterday, alright? And you just can't do that all the time. Sometimes you gotta have a little relief, and comic and otherwise, and a little friviality,
• 1:49:04
  and so I appreciate
• 1:49:06
  the lightheartedness
• 1:49:07
  of some of this today.
• 1:49:09
  It's a pleasure to hear from Jack, who I consider a dear old friend,
• 1:49:14
  and
• 1:49:15
  and the reason I'm here and has helped me so much in my transition up here to get settled in and
• 1:49:23
  meet Patrick and kind of get amongst his family because his what we got here really is kind of a family, Jack.
• 1:49:31
  Unknown: Absolutely,
• 1:49:32
  yes, no doubt about it.
• 1:49:35
  Unknown: Pretty good stuff. Absolutely.
• 1:49:37
  Unknown: Yeah, it's a nice situation. If
• 1:49:39
  any of you ever want to come and visit, what I'd ask you to do is just do
• 1:49:44
  a little preplanning
• 1:49:45
  try and set it up ahead of time so that we can make accommodations
• 1:49:49
  for you when you're here with all of our schedules. We're
• 1:49:53
  generally tugged in a bunch of different directions. Yes, Doug, what were you gonna ask?
• 1:49:58
  Unknown: Well, thanks for saying that because I was just thinking about showing up on your doorstep with a handbag. Well, listen. You well, you wouldn't be the damn first.
• 1:50:11
  Well,
• 1:50:12
  you're probably correct there. But, you know, it's interesting,
• 1:50:17
  Chris speaking there,
• 1:50:19
  because I had this thought a few minutes ago because I'm really you know, I don't
• 1:50:23
  make slight
• 1:50:25
  statements.
• 1:50:26
  You know? There's some circumstances
• 1:50:29
  I won't go into where I I may be able to actually do that.
• 1:50:34
  And I was thinking, well, I wouldn't wanna travel alone.
• 1:50:38
  Maybe I'd meet up with Chris and we'd travel together.
• 1:50:43
  No. Seriously. Well, that'd be okay.
• 1:50:45
  Unknown: Hey. You don't wanna go to Sarah's flight list. Well, you know, the the thing about here is that you're kinda central
• 1:50:53
  in the standpoint of the main
• 1:50:55
  tributaries and transportation are all right here. You fly into the new airport, you got all the bus stations here. If you wanted to go to and you can go for a tour of this if you want to take a day trip, say, or stay overnight. It's an interesting place. Probably the first place that I'll go when I take a trip is Banyos because I've heard so much about it. Why don't you tell them about Banyos?
• 1:51:17
  It's what? Four hours away by bus, Jack, each way?
• 1:51:21
  Unknown: Yeah. And it lies It's Southeast
• 1:51:25
  Of Quito going down the Amazon side
• 1:51:28
  to the East. It's at 6,500
• 1:51:31
  feet. It has three huge rivers that come together in this town, and that's why Banos means
• 1:51:39
  douche,
• 1:51:40
  bathroom,
• 1:51:41
  three big rivers, Banyos.
• 1:51:43
  It's
• 1:51:44
  mostly oriented for
• 1:51:46
  backpackers
• 1:51:47
  and
• 1:51:48
  college kids,
• 1:51:49
  tourist
• 1:51:50
  aspects of bungee jumping off bridges,
• 1:51:54
  a tremendous
• 1:51:55
  tree swing that goes out over a valley.
• 1:52:00
  It's a lot of fun stuff to do, but it's kind of more geared up to the You younger know, hot springs,
• 1:52:07
  Unknown: springs,
• 1:52:08
  white water
• 1:52:09
  rafting,
• 1:52:10
  bungee jumping, zip lines all over the place. Just fun stuff to do in a really, really scenic area. What's your question,
• 1:52:18
  Chris?
• 1:52:20
  Unknown: Well, this kind of probably relates to Doug too, but being that there's a confluence of three rivers there near the Amazon and the the mountains and stuff, I would expect there might be some prospecting in those areas and perhaps some diving
• 1:52:35
  associated. And I happen to have an underwater metal detector. I know how to scuba dive and snorkel too.
• 1:52:42
  Unknown: Yes, sir. You
• 1:52:45
  could you could also do
• 1:52:47
  poor man's Galapagos.
• 1:52:48
  We've got Isla De La Plata,
• 1:52:51
  Island Of Silver, just
• 1:52:54
  forty five minutes off the coast. And
• 1:52:56
  you can do a dive
• 1:52:58
  a day trip out there on a chartered boat for,
• 1:53:04
  I don't know, 90 or a $100.
• 1:53:07
  Something like that.
• 1:53:08
  But
• 1:53:10
  where I would like to get Roger to, when his first time out of the chute, is straight up North, Pan American North to Otavalo,
• 1:53:18
  the biggest
• 1:53:19
  open air
• 1:53:21
  indigenous market on the entire continent
• 1:53:24
  in Otavalo.
• 1:53:25
  Indigenous market. And then just ten more minutes up the road from there is Cotacachi,
• 1:53:30
  the leather market of Ecuador
• 1:53:33
  with a 10,000 population and about a thousand expats.
• 1:53:37
  Nice, flat.
• 1:53:39
  Nobody has to have a car. The town is about 16 square blocks.
• 1:53:45
  Everybody walks and does their business clean as a whistle.
• 1:53:49
  This little town is well maintained
• 1:53:52
  and safe
• 1:53:53
  and secure.
• 1:53:55
  And and the expats get together and help out in the community with the indigenous. They have soup kitchens for the elderly,
• 1:54:02
  and
• 1:54:04
  they really have integrated in with Spanish lessons and
• 1:54:09
  a lot of organic
• 1:54:10
  Roger, where we get our our meats from, our organic pork and
• 1:54:17
  carne and beef is from from that area. The the couple that we're bringing down. Remember? We were ordering. Yep. Yep.
• 1:54:26
  It's just two hours up the road, and I'd really like for you to see it and meet Ronald Quinn. Yeah. I wanna meet Ron. Yeah.
• 1:54:33
  Yeah. Yeah. And and a bunch of others. Did you tell Corey? Really good bunch. Did you tell Corey about him?
• 1:54:41
  No. We've you know how it's been. Yeah. He
• 1:54:44
  he has to leave early. He don't get to go for ice cream break.
• 1:54:48
  After an hour and a half at the El Patio,
• 1:54:51
  12 different international cuisines set up in a u shape, we leave there and go to the Scala
• 1:54:59
  waffles for ice cream for another
• 1:55:01
  hour, hour and a half sometimes.
• 1:55:04
  And then me and Roger and Patrick, we do our grocery shopping after that. So it's an all day affair.
• 1:55:09
  But Corey is
• 1:55:11
  professor
• 1:55:12
  at
• 1:55:13
  the best college in Ecuador,
• 1:55:16
  Kumbaya, San Francisco, Quito. He's and he has to get up and go. Oh, is he teaching over there? I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he shot all kinds of irons in the fire besides his radio show. What does he teach? That boy is basic. What's he teaching over there?
• 1:55:33
  Probably
• 1:55:34
  something related to international
• 1:55:36
  Unknown: social science or state department stuff, I don't know. Great. Whatever got him in the state department. I'll be interested to find out about that. He was a he's a real nice guy. He's like all American guy. I I really enjoyed talking with him and I'm sure looking forward to doing more of the same as we go forward here.
• 1:55:53
  Unknown: He may be a But real we drop it. He may be a real attribute
• 1:55:58
  Unknown: here for us on the program and the network. It's my hope and we'll see how it pans out. I've learned not to project expectations
• 1:56:06
  to other people.
• 1:56:10
  So let's see. So you got Kotokotch, which I should say is High Desert. We're about to man, we're about to run out of show here. Yeah, Doug?
• 1:56:19
  Unknown: Well, just wanted to say if Chris is so inclined, if you would send him some contact information. Yeah, I can put you two together. I'll put you two together.
• 1:56:28
  Yeah.
• 1:56:29
  Yeah. Because we're gonna make a trip to Ecuador at some point together. I can see it. Well I can see it. Y'all have probably
• 1:56:37
  Unknown: and You'll probably you'll probably have a suitcase of stuff for me if you do, so that's part of the requirements. Yeah.
• 1:56:45
  Unknown: Yes.
• 1:56:48
  You know, I I use Youngevity
• 1:56:51
  and c 60,
• 1:56:52
  and so we'll
• 1:56:54
  bring a a boatload of that down with us if we can, and
• 1:56:58
  Unknown: it'll be another adventure. Okay. Well, we got another adventure tomorrow.
• 1:57:03
  On Thursday, I'm gonna bring a boatload of Paul, and we're gonna find out about what's happening across the pond over there and the impact of Najel
• 1:57:12
  Farage on the new Brexit party and all that kind of stuff, which is to me because I like him. So,
• 1:57:18
  appreciate everybody's contribution today. Chris and Doug and Shane and Jack, thanks for calling in. Good to hear from you and we'll see you guys tomorrow with Paul. So, have a good day, and we'll see you then.
• 1:57:31
  Unknown: Hasta luego.
• 1:57:32
  Unknown: Hasta
• 1:57:35
  luego, luego,
• 1:57:36
  baby.
• 1:57:36
  Unknown: Verlos
• 1:57:37
  Verlos Manana in La Manana, Jackson. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Ciao.
• 1:58:31
  Bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.