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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 258 | Offensive Line Scramble, Looking Ahead at Texans Matchup · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into JAGZAM.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Kainani Stevens. Austin Lane and Mark Duffner are with
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  Speaker 2: me as we hold things down on the home front
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  Speaker 2: here in Jacksonville. The team is in London preparing for
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  Speaker 2: their second game there before the bye week, of course.
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  Speaker 2: And it's time to go over some of our big
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  Speaker 2: things for you today.
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  Speaker 1: Brought to you by.
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  Speaker 2: GEHA, Government Employees Health Association. Big thing number one is
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  Speaker 2: whatever it takes. That was one of those games against
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles that it felt like they had to do
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  Speaker 2: whatever it takes to find a win.
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  Speaker 1: Dennis Gardick agrees.
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  Speaker 3: The kind of phrase of no flinch comes to mind
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  Speaker 3: that just whatever it takes to get the job done
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  Speaker 3: in that moment. Uh, it's fun to be a part of, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I think it leads to a team when offense compliment
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  Speaker 3: and defense special teams tying it all together. Um, it's
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  Speaker 3: fun to be a part of a team that's so
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  Speaker 3: connected in terms of the phases.
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  Speaker 1: Austin, find a way, whatever it takes. Don't flinch.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you're just in a game and you have to
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  Speaker 2: do whatever it takes to get a win, and the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars were able to do that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, without a doubt, Kai.
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  Speaker 5: You know, when you talk about whatever it takes and
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  Speaker 5: finding a way to win, that comes down to coaching
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  Speaker 5: and locker room leadership.
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  Speaker 4: And especially in.
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  Speaker 5: That game where things weren't going the Jaguars way, right,
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot of penalties.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of pre-stop penalties, too. Maybe we'll get
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  Speaker 4: into a little bit later.
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  Speaker 5: But you have to rely on the guys to be
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  Speaker 5: leaders out there and say, hey, It's not going our
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  Speaker 5: way like we want it to go.
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  Speaker 4: But let's find a way to win, and leadership comes
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  Speaker 4: into play there.
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  Speaker 6: No doubt about it. I mean, when you look at
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  Speaker 6: what they did, second half in particular, our defense settled
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  Speaker 6: down right now, had a number of forced punch situations,
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  Speaker 6: a fourth down stop. They had one earlier in the half.
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  Speaker 6: And then for the special teams to step up, get
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  Speaker 6: a kickoff return like they did, have the situational master
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  Speaker 6: expertise to get down, give us time to kick the thing,
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  Speaker 6: and then the execution of making that tremendous.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to our second big thing today. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to be O-line questions. We found out after the game
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  Speaker 2: that Anton Harrison, left tackle, who had to leave the game,
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  Speaker 2: had an MRI on his knee. And as of this point,
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  Speaker 2: reports are out.
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  Speaker 1: That he's going to be getting surgery on that knee.
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  Speaker 1: They do not know how long he will be out.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, Duff, this is not the news we wanted to
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  Speaker 2: hear in terms of Anton. What are they losing when
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  Speaker 2: they don't have him.
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  Speaker 1: Out there left tackle?
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  Speaker 6: Well, shoot, again, he's our best offensive lineman, I think,
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  Speaker 6: right now. And so You're going to lose his play,
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  Speaker 6: his production as far as that's concerned, his ability to
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  Speaker 6: pass protect. And it gives an opportunity right now for
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  Speaker 6: Walker Little, a guy that, thank God we've got him.
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  Speaker 6: He's starting to experience both left and right tackle. I
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  Speaker 6: think he's going to come in and play left tackle.
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  Speaker 6: At least that's where I would play him if given
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  Speaker 6: the chance to make my decision on that. But Cole
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  Speaker 6: Van Lannen's getting back in. So we're going to need
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  Speaker 6: Walker's best right now. And I think he's ready to fill.
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  Speaker 4: Up that task.
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  Speaker 5: And, you know, I think it speaks a lot of volumes, Coach,
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  Speaker 5: because you talk about Walker Little didn't allow pressure. And granted,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it was a small sample size, but it
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  Speaker 5: says something. You have to come into a game that's
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  Speaker 5: closer than you expected, don't allow pressure, and then you're
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  Speaker 5: going against now a Houston Texans team where if I'm
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  Speaker 5: Daniel Hunter, Will Anderson Jr., Coach, you've been in those
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  Speaker 5: defensive line meetings, right? If you turn on that Jaguars
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  Speaker 5: film right now with this offensive line, if I'm those
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  Speaker 5: edge guys in Houston, I'm kind of licking my chops
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  Speaker 5: and saying this could be our breakout day. So this
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  Speaker 5: Jaguars offensive line will definitely be tested against a pretty
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  Speaker 5: stout team. Houston Texans defensive line.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to our final big thing today, which is
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  Speaker 2: going to be adjustments. And while the Jaguars were able
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  Speaker 2: to get a win, there's plenty that is going to
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  Speaker 2: be brought up in these meetings about things to work on. Penalties,
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  Speaker 2: certainly one of them. And some of them were at
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  Speaker 2: inopportune times in that game. We saw Trevor Lawrence getting
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  Speaker 2: a little frustrated on the goal line sequence because of
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  Speaker 2: so many penalties.
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  Speaker 7: It's pretty frustrated at a lot of things, you know,
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  Speaker 7: our offense, our.
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  Speaker 4: Team, myself.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, everything, just in that moment of, We kind
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  Speaker 7: of lost our mind a little bit. Some of the
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  Speaker 7: operational stuff we got to clean up. Too many penalties.
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  Speaker 7: I thought it was supposed to be a home game
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  Speaker 7: for us over here, but I guess you guys don't
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  Speaker 7: like us too much. I like the Eagles a little
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  Speaker 7: bit more. Just messing around. It was loud for sure.
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  Speaker 7: It wasn't as much that. It was just getting behind
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  Speaker 7: on the play clock. I got to do a better
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  Speaker 7: job in the huddle of getting the guys out. Getting
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  Speaker 7: the play call in, which I thought Coach did a
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  Speaker 7: fine job. I got to get the play called and
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  Speaker 7: get out of the huddle so we can operate and
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  Speaker 7: not be behind the clock so much. So a lot
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  Speaker 7: of stuff to clean up.
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  Speaker 1: It was loud out there.
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  Speaker 2: Austin, we saw Trevor get a little spicy, which, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that part. I feel like you
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  Speaker 2: can see him get a little competitive. It gets the
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  Speaker 2: fire going. But is it on the play call here?
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  Speaker 2: Is it the noise? What's going into some of these penalties?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think this goes into everything, right? This
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  Speaker 5: goes into the coach getting the play in at a
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  Speaker 5: certain amount of time. This goes into Hainsey having the
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  Speaker 5: wherewithal to snap the ball before the clock set. And obviously, Trevor...
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  Speaker 5: Kind of shows his frustration here. And I think he
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  Speaker 5: had his pick of the litter. Do you want to
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  Speaker 5: yell at your center or do you want to yell
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  Speaker 5: at your head coach on the sidelines? I think he
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  Speaker 5: chose Hainsey. Maybe Hainsey got the brunt of it here.
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  Speaker 5: But I think everyone's a little at fault, obviously. And
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  Speaker 5: hopefully that's a focus going into this next game now
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  Speaker 5: against Houston is getting that play in a little sooner
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  Speaker 5: and obviously getting things set up a little quicker because
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  Speaker 5: it won't be a hostile environment like you saw with
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  Speaker 5: those Eagles fans, but it's going to be a hostile
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  Speaker 5: defense that you're going against.
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  Speaker 6: There's no question about it. And I think you did
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  Speaker 6: a great job. Austin, of explaining that. Everybody participated to that.
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  Speaker 6: But I loved the response that Trevor displayed there. You
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  Speaker 6: could feel his passion right now. All those guys worked
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  Speaker 6: too hard. They've established a high standard for execution around here,
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  Speaker 6: and they didn't meet that. So everybody's going to go
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  Speaker 6: back and look at how can we get to playing better?
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  Speaker 6: How can we get, as you mentioned, Hainsey in terms
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  Speaker 6: of communication, all that fixed up. We can't shoot ourselves
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  Speaker 6: in the foot right now. Don't give away any snaps.
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  Speaker 6: Take everything you possibly can. I love the energy for it.
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  Speaker 6: It'll get fixed this week.
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  Speaker 1: All right, those are our big things.
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  Speaker 2: Stay with us here on JAGZAM, though, as we go
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  Speaker 2: over some this or that and also look ahead to
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  Speaker 2: the matchup against the Texans.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, obviously it's part of my job. I've got to
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  Speaker 8: move on from the next, the last kick. It's like,
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  Speaker 8: you know, like I said, missing a set piece. or
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  Speaker 8: missing a wide open goal. You see a lot of
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  Speaker 8: strikers do that and they'll come back and put the
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  Speaker 8: game away. So I get paid to put the ball
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  Speaker 8: through the yellow uprights and I have to make those
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  Speaker 8: opportunities count, whether it's the one, the PAT, I'm glad
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  Speaker 8: it was a field goal after because one counts for
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  Speaker 8: three points, one counts for one point. So I was,
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  Speaker 8: you know, obviously more excited to hit that one, but yeah,
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  Speaker 8: I've got to have a short-term memory and I've got
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  Speaker 8: to be at my best when the best is required.
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  Speaker 8: I think Coach Cohen preaches that. And obviously you think
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  Speaker 8: about the best players in the world, whether it's football, soccer, tennis,
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  Speaker 8: They're the best when their best is required.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I had to move on quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Time to give some more kudos to.
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  Speaker 2: Cam Little for a huge kick, little big kick, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we love that. But there was a lot of pressure
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  Speaker 2: on everybody involved in that. So we're going to do
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  Speaker 2: a little this or that where I give you guys
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  Speaker 2: some options. Under pressure, you're setting up with one second
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  Speaker 2: left a game-winning field goal. You have a backup long snapper,
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  Speaker 2: John Hamilton, who does not do that on the regular.
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  Speaker 2: Logan Cook needs to go up and get the ball
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  Speaker 2: and somehow get it put down with the laces out
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  Speaker 2: ready for Cam Little.
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  Speaker 1: And Cam Little, who just missed a point after the.
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  Speaker 2: an extra point, has to come in and try to
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  Speaker 2: make this kick, which as if there was a knock
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  Speaker 2: was maybe, you know, in the more pressure situations he
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  Speaker 2: has missed. Who was under the most pressure in that situation, Austin?
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  Speaker 5: So to me, I'm going to go with the real
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  Speaker 5: unicorn because we saw this last year with Devon Hamilton
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  Speaker 5: with all due respect to Travis Hunter, but this guy's
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  Speaker 5: long snapping and playing defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going Devon Hamilton because that's not his job, right?
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  Speaker 4: Like it's Cam Little's job to make kicks.
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  Speaker 5: It is Logan Cook's job to get the ball, put
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  Speaker 5: it down for the kicker to kick the ball. It
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  Speaker 5: is not Devon Hamilton's job to long snap in one
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  Speaker 5: of the biggest moments of that game away from home
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  Speaker 5: in England and get a dub. That wasn't his job,
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  Speaker 5: but he ended the pressure moment gracefully and absolutely crushed it,
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  Speaker 5: and the rest is history.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well, let me say this. I agree with what you said,
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  Speaker 6: and all three of them had major pressure. And actually,
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  Speaker 6: the best snap of the day, which was a bullet,
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  Speaker 6: was a snap before They iced him, and he fired
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  Speaker 6: a bullet back there, and you're thinking, great, I'm going
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  Speaker 6: to go with Little. And the reason I'm going with
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  Speaker 6: him is, as Kyle, you just mentioned, he missed one earlier.
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  Speaker 6: He'd just seen a couple of errant snaps. He'd seen
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  Speaker 6: Cook go up like Wilt Chamberlain to catch a couple
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  Speaker 6: of them. And to get that thing down and to
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  Speaker 6: make that thing, we had to have it in that situation.
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  Speaker 6: And I know that he's paid to do that, but
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  Speaker 6: by God, he did it, and he did it in
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  Speaker 6: a big way. And one that wasn't easy with all those,
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  Speaker 6: so I'm going with him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to split the middle and go with Logan
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  Speaker 2: because he needs some credit. He's the only one who
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  Speaker 2: probably isn't getting the credit because that middle piece where you're...
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  Speaker 2: And no knocking Devon at all because I think also
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  Speaker 2: when you are doing that role and you don't normally
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  Speaker 2: do it, you probably do it the same every single time,
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  Speaker 2: which is... He's snapping it at the height for punting, essentially.
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  Speaker 2: It kind of would hit Logan in the chest if
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  Speaker 2: it was a punt. And so he doesn't want to
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  Speaker 2: mess with that. If it hits the ground or it
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  Speaker 2: hits Logan, then it's going to be a live ball.
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  Speaker 2: So rather higher than hitting the ground and tumbling about.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll give Logan credit, though, for, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: going up real high to get it and then twisting
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  Speaker 2: his foot out of the way and all this. And listen,
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  Speaker 2: it's a specialist position. That is in the title. But
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  Speaker 2: we don't give them enough credit sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: No, absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: And obviously, if it doesn't happen and the timing's off
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  Speaker 5: a little bit and Logan can't get it down in time,
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  Speaker 5: they're going to all blame Cam and no one's going
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  Speaker 5: to talk about Logan maybe.
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  Speaker 4: So it is a thankless job.
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  Speaker 5: So I got a little respect where we say Devon
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  Speaker 5: Hamilton on defense, a thankless job playing nose tackle, stopping
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  Speaker 5: the run. Logan Cook on special teams, a thankless job
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  Speaker 5: in terms of catching the ball and putting it down.
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  Speaker 6: I've heard other special teams coordinators around the league say
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  Speaker 6: Logan Cook. Cook's the best holder in the league, which
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  Speaker 6: is a talent in its own. I mean, so I've
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  Speaker 6: heard that. So, again, kudos to him, too, and what
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  Speaker 6: he did.
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  Speaker 2: After all that, I think we can say Logan is
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  Speaker 2: the best holder.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh, yes.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about Anton Harrison will be out for– an
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  Speaker 2: amount of time. We don't know how long just yet,
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  Speaker 2: but that means that there's going to be some O-line changes.
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  Speaker 1: And we saw Walker Little come in. He was plugged
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  Speaker 1: right into left tackle.
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  Speaker 2: And, Coach, please elaborate for us because is it a plug-and-play,
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  Speaker 2: just run with him at left tackle? Do you move
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  Speaker 2: some other pieces around? There are players on this O-line
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  Speaker 2: that have played multiple positions. So I know traditionally you
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  Speaker 2: don't like to upset the whole apple cart, right? You
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  Speaker 2: just kind of leave him at left tackle, Walker.
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  Speaker 1: Little at left tackle?
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  Speaker 6: That's what I think. I think it's plug-and-play. I think he–
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  Speaker 6: He goes there right now. He's got versatility, and thank
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  Speaker 6: God we've got him because of the fact that he
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  Speaker 6: does have the versatility, starting experience at both sides. He
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  Speaker 6: went in in the second, as you mentioned, came in
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  Speaker 6: when Anton got hurt and protected marvelously as far as
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  Speaker 6: that's concerned. So I think it's let him get all
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  Speaker 6: the reps again this week with those guys, stay there,
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  Speaker 6: keep goal where he is. Is he still coming back?
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  Speaker 6: Probably still not in 100% form as far as his
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  Speaker 6: production and his play is concerned. That's what I would do.
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  Speaker 6: I would get Walker in there, we gotta get backup
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  Speaker 6: ready too, whoever that's gonna wind up being, whether it's Felele,
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  Speaker 6: maybe it's somebody coming off the practice squad, but all
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  Speaker 6: that's gotta go into preparation this week.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's keep in mind with Colt Van Lannen as well.
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  Speaker 5: This is a guy who missed all training camp, who
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  Speaker 5: was kind of going through the first couple weeks getting
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  Speaker 5: back in game shape and everything. And yes, he did
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  Speaker 5: make his money. He made his contract at left tackle.
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  Speaker 5: That's where he kind of had his coming out party,
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  Speaker 5: if you will, and he got a new deal. But
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  Speaker 5: at the same time, he didn't play his best game
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  Speaker 5: last week against the Eagles. And that's not to say
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  Speaker 5: that he's not capable. I just think, like Coach said,
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  Speaker 5: he's coming off that injury. He's still getting in game
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  Speaker 5: shape and everything. So why move him from a spot
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  Speaker 5: where you just put him at and say, okay, go
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  Speaker 5: play left tackle. More importantly, go protect your quarterback's blind side.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure Trevor would appreciate, hey, you know what? Let's
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  Speaker 5: walk a little over there. He did a pretty good
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  Speaker 5: job against the Eagles. We'll have Cole Atlanta on the right.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see what happens. I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 6: I agree with everything. This offensive staff and the offensive
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  Speaker 6: line coaches in particular have done the best job of
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  Speaker 6: any I've been around watching them mix and match players
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  Speaker 6: and fitting guys in and cross-training them so that you
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  Speaker 6: don't have these issues where you're worried about it. So
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  Speaker 6: I've got confidence in the staff. I've got confidence in Walker.
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  Speaker 6: Let's go get them.
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  Speaker 2: All right, our final this or that is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a little bit more broad. Obviously, we are coming
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  Speaker 2: up on the bye week after this matchup with the Texans.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have a little bit of a break. And while
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  Speaker 2: I feel this team is really well-rounded, especially when you
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  Speaker 2: look around the NFL, what's your biggest concern going forward?
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  Speaker 2: Is it O-line that we've talked about? Is it D-line
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  Speaker 2: pass rush? Is there something else that's on your mind
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  Speaker 2: that you're like, hey, this might become an issue later
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  Speaker 2: down the road?
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  Speaker 1: Austin, what are you concerned?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean, I think you kind of
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  Speaker 5: make a case for both sides. But you know me,
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  Speaker 5: I'm on the defensive side of the ball, right? And
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  Speaker 5: that's where I played. And anytime you're giving up 14
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  Speaker 5: points a game. that's enough to win, right? So when
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  Speaker 5: you look at Liam Cohen, the way this team is constructed,
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  Speaker 5: this is an offensive-minded team, and it seems like the
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  Speaker 5: defense is secondary. Well, right now, I haven't watched one
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  Speaker 5: Jaguars game and thought the defense has to prevent them
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  Speaker 5: from scoring more points. I mean, when you're averaging 14
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  Speaker 5: points given up, that's enough to win every single football game.
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  Speaker 5: So to me, it stems a little more from the offense.
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  Speaker 5: It's easier to say, let's get another pass rusher, right?
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  Speaker 5: Let's get an edge guy. But in totality, I think
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  Speaker 5: I want to see more points on the board, and
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  Speaker 5: points start in the trenches. So I'm a little more
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  Speaker 5: concerned with the offensive line just simply because you have injuries,
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  Speaker 5: you have guys coming in and out and everything, so
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  Speaker 5: I'm not quite sure what that's going to look like yet.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't have a lot of concerns, to be honest,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm with you with everything you just said. I'm
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  Speaker 6: confident our offensive scoring is going to be where we
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  Speaker 6: want it to be. They've done it so well. The
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  Speaker 6: last half of last season started out well this year
• 13:45
  Speaker 6: with two, so I think that that's coming. I think
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: as we continue to get balanced in our run game
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: and our pass game, our play-action pass game will open
• 13:53
  Speaker 6: up with the run game continuing to be good. Basial, Tootin, C-Rod,
• 13:56
  Speaker 6: all those guys. I still think, and I still like
• 14:01
  Speaker 6: to see a little more pressure on affecting the opponent's quarterback.
• 14:04
  Speaker 6: I think that's an issue that, I mean, we're getting pressures,
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: we're getting quarterback hits, but I like to see the sacks.
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: I like to see the sack fumbles. You know, they
• 14:14
  Speaker 6: affected us a little bit this pass game with that,
• 14:16
  Speaker 6: and when you saw what Carter could do. So, again,
• 14:19
  Speaker 6: that's my concern a little bit. Let's see if we
• 14:20
  Speaker 6: can get a little bit more done there.
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, Coach, I think you know better than anybody
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: at the position. I mean, how beneficial is it when
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: you can only rush four guys and get home? Because
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: now we're seeing a lot of blitzing, right? We're seeing
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: linebackers come through the A and the B gaps and
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: trying to get home. I mean, you know firsthand, like,
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: how much does it help when you can only get
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: home with four and you can have your linebackers back
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: in coverage a little more?
• 14:40
  Speaker 6: It's the best if you can. And that's rushing coverage
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: working together. In other words, we've got to continue to
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: be aggressive and sticky in coverage, can test all throws.
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: So it's everybody working together. It's not just those four
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: guys up front and everybody else is on their own.
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: So it's an 11-man proposition no matter what. But where
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: we can get Russian covers working together and do it
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: with four men, well, it's the best in the world.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Always room for improvement, but it's nice to be doing
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: it four and one.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: Amen.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: And hopefully five and one. Stay with us. We are
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: going to look at some of the other things going
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: on around the division and we'll preview the matchup against
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: the Texans. Welcome back into Jags AM. We're going to
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: discuss what's going on around the NFL. We like to
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: keep our tabs on things. And we're going to start
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: and finish this week with the AFC South because we're
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: facing off against the Texans. This is the Jaguars' first
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: matchup against a division opponent so far this season. And yes,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: the Texans finally got their first win of the season
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: this week because they took on the Titans and the
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Titans are 0-5. So the Texans are 1-4. But you
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: don't look at records when it's a divisional matchup. Coach,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: the Texans are always a tough matchup for this current
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Jaguars team, and I know at even one of four.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: It will be.
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, when you look back at the previous
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: games that we've had with them, I think the biggest
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: margin of victory is seven points. And last year, as
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: you know, they came back mightily to wind up beating
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: us over in London. So I mean, this is a major,
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: major task, upcoming challenge for us coming up right now.
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: You've got a defense right now that Coach Ryan's got
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: back into calling the defense. They got settled down a
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: little bit prior to that. They were, shoot, they were
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: 31st in the league in explosive plays. They had issues
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: with deep passes, with communication, with breakdowns, with busts. I
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: think they've got that now back under control. And you've
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: got a quarterback coming in right now that's playing as
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: good as anybody in the league. I think he's third
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: in total yards and playing very confidently right now. Nico
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: Collins coming back right now. I think they've averaged over
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: 30 points a game. Both games he's come back in.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: So this team right now is starting to get their
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: stride back a little bit. They're very determined right now
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: and very desperate in the game that's coming up against
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: the Jaguars.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and with all the respected Tennessee Titans, this feels
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: like the rival.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Game here, right?
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I think at this stage, after the last couple of years,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: and I know everyone will always dislike the Titans.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: But it feels like the main rival at this point
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: is the Texans.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Without a doubt.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: Anytime you have a rival in a game, you know,
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: it can always be closer than expected, right? It's going
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: to be hard fought, and that's what Houston's going to
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: bring to the table, I feel like, this Sunday.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: As Coach mentioned, C.J. Stroud is playing.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: At a different level right now, which we didn't really
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: see last year a lot. And their defense will still travel.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: D'Amico Ryan's now calling the plays. He got a nice
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: soft launch against the Tennessee Titans offense that wasn't firing
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: all cylinders or anything. But you've got to take into
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: account they have a good secondary. They have great pass rushers.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: And obviously with Nico Collins, you've got to shut him
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: down because those two games last year, Nico Collins– Kind
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: of had a field day in Jacksonville and thankfully a
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Tyson Campbell punch out actually won the Jaguars that game
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: because that was used in Texans game too. So you're
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: looking at a Texans team that they have a lot
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: to play for.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: They're your rival. You got to bring it.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: And they're adding in another addition.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll play in this matchup, but
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the Texans announcing a trade for Marvin Harrison Jr. from
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals because obviously they've had some injuries with their
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: wide receivers. But another target, one C.J. Stroud is familiar
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: with because of their time in college together. We haven't
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: seen a ton on Marvin Harrison Jr. at the NFL level,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: maybe underperforming some, but is this an opportunity for him
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: to kind.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Of revive himself?
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it is.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if we see him in some
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: sort of capacity as he starts to learn the offense
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: a little bit, but he was drafted in the first
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: round for a reason. Now, granted, it didn't work out
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: in Arizona, but sometimes all you need is a change
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: of scenery to get your confidence back up, and especially
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: a quarterback throwing you the football that you're accustomed to
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: from college. So I would be really worried about Marvin
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Harrison Jr. Make sure I have all eyes on him
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: as well as Nico Collins.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they've got multiple weapons right now. This Jalen Noel,
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: I guess it's pronounced, a rookie that they've got. Geez,
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: he had a career game or a great game against
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: Dallas a couple weeks ago. He's a great returner, so
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: he's a deep threat. I mean, when you add up Collins,
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: you mentioned Marvin Harrison coming aboard and their connection. Wow,
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: and Dalton Schultz as a tight end being a very
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: steady guy. Now, they struggled in the run game a
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: little bit, but this Woody Marks gave him some juice
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: last week, too, so he's coming on. this is going
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: to be a challenge for our defense for sure.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: And you want to talk about complementary football, listen, I
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: don't want to go against Nico Collins one-on-one.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: So this is on the Jaguars' defensive line now to
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: get home.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: It's kind of a makeshift offensive line of the Texans
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: a little bit.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: Good call.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Where you have to rely on your pass rush, hopefully
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: just rushing four, helping out in zone and man coverage
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: and everything. But you're rushing four, you get home, and
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: make C.J. Stroud's life uncomfortable.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Good call.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: We talked about what the O-line dealt with this week
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: against the Eagles on some other shows and on postgame
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: because Jalen Carter was just a wrecking ball. But the
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: defensive front for the Texans is no slouch either. Coach,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: this is going to be a tough matchup for this
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: banged up O-line for the Jaguars.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: To be dealing with.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh. I mean, again, what Hunter brings, what
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: Anderson brings. Anderson right now is leading the league in sacks.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: I think he's got about, geez, I'm going to say
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: 12 tackles for loss. But I mean, he's killing it
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: right now. I think he's second in pressures. And then
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: Hunter on the other side, I mean, pick your poison.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, These guys are really prolific. We've got to
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: play great first down offense right now, move the chains
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: where they haven't earned the right to rush. In other words,
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: so they don't know what it's going to be. We've
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: got to stay ahead of the sticks as far as
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: that's concerned. Play call, execution is going to be critical
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: to keep them at bay, if you will.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: And this is the problem when you're trying to game
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: plan for the Houston Texans, right? Because usually in the league,
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: there's one good pass rusher that you have to have
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: your eyes on, right? So you can kind of double
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: team him. You can chip him. You can't do that
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: with Will Anderson Jr. and Daniel Hunter because they can
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: both beat you. They're both very talented. So I expect
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: to see a lot of, you know, 12 personnel, maybe
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: some 13 personnel. Have your tight ends help out a
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: little bit. Don't give them a free release. Even your
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: running backs can step up a little bit. But you
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: have to make sure that at all times they're not
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: getting a free release. So whether it's a tight end,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: whether it's a shoulder from a Quinn Allen, do something
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: to throw them off the track. Because if they get
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: going with that speed and everything, it could be a
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: long day for Trevor Lawrence.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Not going to be good.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: We'll look a little elsewhere in the division. I'm not
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: going to go fully into the Titans right now. We'll
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: push that down the road. But the Colts lost to
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the Steelers this week. Coach, I know you keep up
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: with the league yourself. Obviously, the Texans, we feel, are
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: always a threat no matter what their record is. The
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Colts are kind of a mystery to me because some
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: weeks they look okay, some weeks not so much.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Do you really have a read on where they're at
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: No, I don't.
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: No, I wish I did, actually, but I'm with you there.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: I don't know who's showing up. A lot of it's
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: the quarterback. Again, when he's playing well, like every team,
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: their team tends to go right now, but they've struggled.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: They start off the season struggling on defense. I thought
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: they kind of got that back under control, and yet
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: they had it. Tough ball game against Pittsburgh here recently,
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: as you mentioned last week. So the guy that they
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: kind of got to get going is who we're looking
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: at right now, Taylor. I mean, he really hasn't gotten
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: going as far as their offense is concerned. So I
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: don't know yet that they've been able to really find
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: their identity this season, really who they are offensively or defensively.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: And I kind of hope that's where they stay, that
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: they're a little bit in a quandary as who we are.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a team that's really missing Alec Pierce, right?
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: You invested a lot into him to make him a
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: wide receiver one. He's been out with his heel. I'm
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: not sure when he's going to be back. Obviously, Jonathan,
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: the offense goes through Jonathan Taylor as of now. And
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: you still have to keep him in check because he
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: can beat you at any time. He's got breakaway speed.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: And as far as defense is concerned, yeah, you get
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Sauce Gardner. He's been a little porous. But to me,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: and this is where if you're a Jaguars fan, you're
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: a little worried about it, DeForest Buckner. is one of
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: the best three techniques in the league. And you just
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: saw a three technique in Jalen Carter, maybe a little
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: different size than DeForest Buckner, but still the same physicality
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: and playability where if he gets going, that entire defense
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: can rally behind him. So when the time does come
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: to play the Indianapolis Colts, you've got to take into
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: account stopping DeForest Buckner.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: The ability to wreck a game, absolutely.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: He is a game wrecker, that's for sure. He's a
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: big dude.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: No doubt.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: All right, stay with us here. We're going to take
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: one more break, and then we'll tell you what's coming
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: up the rest of the week.
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: Man it was a big time moment and big time
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: play we needed to play right there so at first
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: I'm looking and I was looking in the air I
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: was like where is the football I like I know
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: I'm supposed to be getting it and then as soon
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: as I saw it I was like okay there we
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: go and then just being able to make that play
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: that's what it's all about you know that's what the
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: off season's for that's what all the training that's what
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: the training camps OTAs that's what it's all about so
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: just making that play and Being a guy that your
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: team leans on in a big-time moment, that was special
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: for me.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Caught up in the last eight seconds of the game,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: hard to forget, but this catch from Parker Washington, I
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: know he does it every day at practice and it's
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: almost old hat, but it's so impressive and just really
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: hammers home how important he is to this offense.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's everything.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: And I hope James Glass was not listening because I'm
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: not trying to drive the price of Parker Washington even
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: up even more.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: But you know who he really reminds me of? And
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: that play is a classic example.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: And even the play in the flat, the drag route
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: where he gets that touchdown as well, he reminds me
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: of Jackson Smith and Jigbaugh.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: And the story is crazy. They both started the slot
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: their first year, right? And they're just slot receivers. And
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: they gradually get more and more confidence. They gradually get
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: more and more involved in the route tree. And now
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: you have no problem with Parker Washington doing these deep
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: routes just like JSN.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: So it's wild.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: And if you read the draft write-ups as well with
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: Lance Zerline, who I've talked to about it before.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: It's the same thing.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Out of college, they're questioning could they play an X
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: or an outside receiver because.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: They're agile, but do they have.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: The overall game-to-day breaking speed to get deep and deep coverage?
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Exhibit A right there for Parker Washington. I'll tell you what.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: He reminds me a lot of Jamar Chase. They're both
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: guys that look like running backs from the waist down.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: They make people miss. They're go-to guys. They make plays
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: when we need it the most. I mean, I have come,
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: like you said, Kai, you kind of think, well, he
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: does it all the time. And yeah, he does do
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: it all the time. Consistency is another description for this guy.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Consistently great. So, I mean, wow. I never, I mean,
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: that catch was off the chart gorgeous. But again, I've
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: seen it before, too. He does it all the time,
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: like the sun coming up.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: And it's also something to keep in mind as well, right?
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Because we're seeing Josh Cameron get more and more reps
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: right now. And Josh Cameron's kind of being that possession,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: that bully receiver, if you will. Not sure if he's
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: really a deep threat. Well, if Brian Thomas Jr. is
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: going to be off the field, you might have a
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: deep threat there in Parker Washington that you might want
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: to sprinkle on a little more and do some go-routes
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: with him.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: He certainly is.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Capable, and he's worked his way up. A six-round pick,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and look what he's become. This is our daily pitch
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: to get Parker Washington locked up long-term.
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: Do it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: But we hope you enjoyed this version of Jags AM.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Jags AM will be back from London on Thursday as
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: they get you fully ready for that Texans matchup. We'll
• 25:57
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• 26:01
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• 26:03
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