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Normally Podcast: Will the United States join the Battle Between Israel & Iran? · Normally

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, you're back.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, love it.
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  Speaker 2: So, by the way, I say, can I say also
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  Speaker 2: that I'm coming off a nine to ten mile hike today,
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  Speaker 2: so if my words give me yeh know.
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  Speaker 3: Why I'll be there to help you.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I have very few friends who would
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  Speaker 2: have wanted to join me on that one, and I
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  Speaker 2: have one friend who did and we made it happen.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I know, I'm at the bottom of that
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  Speaker 3: list of friends who would want to join you. Like
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  Speaker 3: that was my gut feeling for drinks afterwards. Maybe you
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  Speaker 3: know so Iran is still the top story of the week.
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  Speaker 3: We are going to be releasing this episode a day
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  Speaker 3: early because it is changing so quickly and we don't
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  Speaker 3: know what's going to happen. We're recording this Tuesday night.
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  Speaker 3: Trump was going to speak and then the White House
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  Speaker 3: called a lid, so we don't know. He had a
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  Speaker 3: two hour conversation with Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Yeah Who.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know what they spoke about. Yet they've been
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  Speaker 3: getting along and I think things are going pretty swimmingly.
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  Speaker 3: Israel has frankly been on a tear. They've been dismantling
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  Speaker 3: the place, and things are going very well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, look, Israel is surrounded by Iranian proxies.
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  Speaker 2: Iranian proxies have been doing harm to American assets and
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  Speaker 2: American soldiers and American races and American ships for years
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  Speaker 2: and years and years done worse often to Israel. And again, I,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, I don't want to assume that Iran
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have capabilities that it might still have. Yes, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I think Israel's intel has shown itself
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  Speaker 2: to be extremely competent. I'm I'm sure they quite a
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  Speaker 2: bit about it. But this does seem like just such
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  Speaker 2: a high value opportunity to put this awful, violent regime
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  Speaker 2: that would like to take over the world and like
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  Speaker 2: to have a nuke, which is a really bad combo
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  Speaker 2: of all the things on its knees. Yeah, and there's
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  Speaker 2: a yes seems like an open one given that Israel
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  Speaker 2: took out all of their missile defenses pretty quick, it's
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  Speaker 2: been continues to take out launching spots and here.
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  Speaker 3: We are, Yeah, here we are. So the question has
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  Speaker 3: been is this going to split MAGA and I have
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  Speaker 3: a new poll to tell our listeners about that found
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  Speaker 3: this is a poll of just Trump voters. So eighty
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  Speaker 3: percent of Trump voters back the United States providing the
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  Speaker 3: offensive weapons to Israel. I'm not surprised by that at all.
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  Speaker 3: In addition, the poll found seventy two percent of voters
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  Speaker 3: support of the United States taking its own military action
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  Speaker 3: targeting to prevent the Iranian regime from developing nuclear weapons.
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  Speaker 3: Then eighty percent of voters felt that I ran as
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  Speaker 3: a destabilizing force, a sponsors terrorism, threatens US allies, and
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  Speaker 3: undermines American interest throughout the region. Seventy two percent said
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  Speaker 3: I ran with a serious threat to the United States
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  Speaker 3: national security. Now let's be real here. This poll was
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  Speaker 3: conducted yesterday and the day before, so Monday and Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: It's very possible that Americans have seen Israel deliver a
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  Speaker 3: total whooping on Iran in the last few days and decided, sure,
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  Speaker 3: why not we could join in. That's fine, because I
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  Speaker 3: don't think that if this poll was conducted before the
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  Speaker 3: fighting began and we saw just what a paper tiger
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  Speaker 3: Iran really is, that the numbers would be quite this high.
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  Speaker 3: But it really does say something that there really isn't
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  Speaker 3: a split in MAGA. These are Trump voters with these numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I think something that I have pretty much
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  Speaker 2: always liked about Trump, even when I've been very skeptical
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  Speaker 2: of him, as I was during his first term. Look,
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  Speaker 2: he'll say things that make me nervous on the foreign
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  Speaker 2: policy front. I get nervous about like Steve Whitcoff saying
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  Speaker 2: he's negotiating. I think a lot of that was a ruse. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: I get nervous about these things. And also Trump does
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  Speaker 2: seem to know when the rubber hits the road wins
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  Speaker 2: a good opportunity. He listens to military experts about it,
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  Speaker 2: he listens to intel. He doesn't drop off cash for
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  Speaker 2: enemies instead opting for bombs. And the thing that I
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  Speaker 2: think many Americans are okay with is an American foreign
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  Speaker 2: policy from a guy who says, these are bad guys.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to go nation build. I just want
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  Speaker 2: to go strike and then come home and let the
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  Speaker 2: pilots have lunch. Like that's that's what he wants to do,
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  Speaker 2: and he has a record of doing it on solo money.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I got a hit, I'm going to take
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  Speaker 2: the hit, and right, that's it. And I actually this
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  Speaker 2: is a very DC story. I was at a very
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  Speaker 2: DC dinner the night that Solomoni was struck was killed,
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  Speaker 2: as our friend Smokes has turned to salsa, and everyone
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  Speaker 2: at this sort of conventional table of foreign foreign policy
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  Speaker 2: experts because it was very beltwigh situation was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my gosh, this is it. This is the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: World War three. He's done it. He's done the thing
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  Speaker 2: we were afraid of, that we said he was going
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  Speaker 2: to do. And I was basically the only person who
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  Speaker 2: was like, I don't know, Like, maybe it's goodbe not
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  Speaker 2: the Iranian general who's guilty of a lot of bad
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  Speaker 2: stuff and was in Iraq doing those bad things to
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  Speaker 2: our people, and maybe it won't be World War three.
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  Speaker 2: And in fact it wasn't right because Trump takes the
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  Speaker 2: shot and then goes back to doing what he does right.
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  Speaker 2: And he's done that with the Houties, where he's bombed
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  Speaker 2: them for six weeks. Actually from Noah Pollock had a
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  Speaker 2: tweet on this, and it echoed exactly what I was thinking.
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  Speaker 2: He says, this endless war shrieking is ridiculous. Trump bombed
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  Speaker 2: the hoodies for six weeks and then ended it. He
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  Speaker 2: fought Isis for around two years to feed them, and
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  Speaker 2: then ended it. Trump killed Solomoni and did not engage further.
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  Speaker 2: He degraded al Shabab and Somalia for three years and
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  Speaker 2: then ended it. Trump's record of not dragging us into
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  Speaker 2: another endless war is impeccable.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think he you know, for all of
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  Speaker 3: Trump's off the coff stuff, and look, you know you
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  Speaker 3: and I have been critical when we feel like he
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  Speaker 3: just says things. He just says things. He actually has
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  Speaker 3: been telegraphing this for a long time. The White House released,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a montage of Trump commenting on this over
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  Speaker 3: the years. But I went back to May when he
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  Speaker 3: did his Middle Eastern tour and he gave that speech
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  Speaker 3: in Saudi Arabia, where I liked that speech a lot,
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  Speaker 3: but I felt like a lot of people who are
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  Speaker 3: supportive of Israel didn't like it. And they didn't I
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  Speaker 3: thought they just didn't understand it. And at the time
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  Speaker 3: he said in that speech, he said, I Ran can
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  Speaker 3: have a much brighter future, but we will never allow
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  Speaker 3: them to threaten America and our allies with terrorism or
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  Speaker 3: nuclear attack. The time is right now for them to choose.
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  Speaker 3: And I at the time was like, how do you
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  Speaker 3: not hear this as a pro Israel speech? Which allies?
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  Speaker 3: Does he mean here? It could only be Israel? So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think people wanted and some anti Israel
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  Speaker 3: people also heard this as an anti Israel speech, and
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  Speaker 3: I was just perplexed at the time. I did not
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  Speaker 3: understand how anybody could have heard it as anything other
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  Speaker 3: than Trump being supportive of Israel, which he has been
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  Speaker 3: the entire time he ran for president, and during his
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  Speaker 3: entire first administration he has been damn near flawless on Israel.
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  Speaker 2: I just think that I understand why people worry about
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  Speaker 2: nation building.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did it poorly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. A friend of mine tweeted at one point, not
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  Speaker 2: anti warrior, anti nation building, right, and that is Look,
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  Speaker 2: I have many friends who lost limbs, I have families
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  Speaker 2: who lost family members in those conflicts, trying to make
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  Speaker 2: good on those promises, right. I understand people being war
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  Speaker 2: weary and being worried about that. But I think Trump
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  Speaker 2: has shown a propensity to be like occasionally bellicos and
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  Speaker 2: then wrapper up, which I think most Americans are comfortable with.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly most Republicans are comfortable with, yeah, and probably most
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  Speaker 2: Trump voters. While there are also very loud Trump coalition
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  Speaker 2: influencers who disagree right.
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  Speaker 3: And those influencers, it turns out, are a stark minority,
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  Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, for a lot of
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  Speaker 3: those influencers, it's not about war, it's not about even
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  Speaker 3: nation building. It's about being anti Israel. Look it feels
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  Speaker 3: like that that's their prerogative, but don't try to sell
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  Speaker 3: us on Oh this is not what Trump ran on.
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  Speaker 3: I know, retweeted a bunch of old tweets of mine
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  Speaker 3: where Trump is saying Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon
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  Speaker 3: and Trump is saying we will stand by Israel. So
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  Speaker 3: I just don't see how anybody could have followed politics
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  Speaker 3: for the last, you know, almost ten years of Trump
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  Speaker 3: on the scene. It's actually we just passed the ten
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  Speaker 3: year mark when he came down the escalated and not
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  Speaker 3: seeing him as this very very pro Israel guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think when it comes to foreign policy,
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  Speaker 2: having credible threats, having capable allies who are doing the
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  Speaker 2: kinds of amazing almost magical things that Israel is accomplishing
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  Speaker 2: right now, it really is those things make peace. And
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  Speaker 2: I know it's like it's an old saw, peace through strength,
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  Speaker 2: but I believe it real and reterrence is real, and
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  Speaker 2: when you lose it, it's hard to get back, and
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  Speaker 2: we certainly lost it during Afghanistans withdrawal. And I just
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  Speaker 2: like to see I have rejoiced to see Israel's successes
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  Speaker 2: and to see institutions work the way they're supposed to
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  Speaker 2: work and in sometimes like really astounding ways, and for
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  Speaker 2: us to be able to buoy that and to on
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  Speaker 2: the cheap get maybe a huge when in the region.
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  Speaker 3: I mean absolutely, I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Mad at it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. You know. Trump had a comment today he
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  Speaker 3: said on his truth social he said, we now have
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  Speaker 3: complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran
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  Speaker 3: had good skytrackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it,
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  Speaker 3: but it doesn't compare to American made, conceived and manufactured stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody does it better than the good old USA. And
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people were like, we now have complete
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  Speaker 3: and total control of the skies over Iran. Okay, Like
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  Speaker 3: that's great.
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  Speaker 2: You know why I can't credit it, but yeah, because
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see the name. But somebody tweeted the kid
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  Speaker 2: who does nothing the group project and still get today.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody on one of my group chats said, it's like
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  Speaker 3: when the husbands like, we're pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: I did all this work.
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  Speaker 3: It's great.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, we shall keep you posted. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't I think the split is overblown. I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I agree, it is overblown and I really don't see
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  Speaker 3: uh much of a split in real life especially So
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  Speaker 3: look again, you're the influencers. Can say what they want.
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  Speaker 3: They can be angry about any military action at all,
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  Speaker 3: but it is not the military action that they're pretending
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  Speaker 3: it will be. I would be against that military action.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be against boots on the ground for American troops.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be right back on normally. Meanwhile, what are the
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  Speaker 3: Democrats up to? Oh my god, it's just you know,
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  Speaker 3: Democrats keep getting arrested for illegal imigrants and it is
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  Speaker 3: just entirely baffling to me how they've decided that this
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  Speaker 3: is the issue that they're going to just this is
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  Speaker 3: the hill that they're going to die on. It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: So we know Senator Alex Padilla interrupted Secretary Christinome last
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  Speaker 3: week as she was speaking. He was tackled by secret Service.
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  Speaker 3: He was not wearing his senator pin and she did
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  Speaker 3: not know who he was, so he just came off
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  Speaker 3: as some guy charging at the Secretary Palm and Security.
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  Speaker 3: Earlier today, Democratic reps, I'm going to butcher Raja Krishna
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  Speaker 3: Morphy and Jonathan Jackson attempted to enter an ICE facility
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  Speaker 3: in Chicago. It was an interaction that they filmed. The
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  Speaker 3: guy at the ice facility was basically like, no, I
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  Speaker 3: don't have to answer to you and close the gate
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  Speaker 3: on them. And then also today Brad Lander, a mayoral
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: candidate in New York City, attempted to stop ice from
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: detaining someone by locking arms with them. It turned into
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  Speaker 3: a bit of a wrestling match. Our friend Kirsten Fleming wrote,
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  Speaker 3: he looks like the town drunk getting tossed out of
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: the bar once again for getting fresh with the waitress.
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  Speaker 3: That really sums it up very well. He was very disheveled.
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  Speaker 3: Why are they doing this? It is just bananas to
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  Speaker 3: me that they've decided to make this their whole issue.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not over for brad Lander. He got to
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  Speaker 3: get out, but the US Attorney's Office is still investigating
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  Speaker 3: his actions. I'm baffled, and I'm baffled despite Brad Lander
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  Speaker 3: was my city councilman in Brooklyn and he was the
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  Speaker 3: absolute worst. I'll get into that in a second, But
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  Speaker 3: what do you think? What are we looking at here?
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  Speaker 3: Why do they need this issue so badly? Why have
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  Speaker 3: they decided this is the issue?
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  Speaker 2: I mean look, I had sort of a radicalizing moment
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: during COVID when in La LA's public school teachers who
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: would not teach American children in classrooms volunteered to go
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  Speaker 2: to migrant shelters. And I just thought, oh, no, they
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  Speaker 2: just really like them not an Americans, Like it's just
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  Speaker 2: and it is it. They just keep proving that, And
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  Speaker 2: I'm not I generally want to not uh like assume
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  Speaker 2: people's motives in that way, but the evidence is mounting
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  Speaker 2: right that they want to offer benefits that other people
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  Speaker 2: don't get. I've always felt this way about in state
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  Speaker 2: tuition for illegal immigrants, like, so, a kid from North
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Carolina can't go uh to another state, but but somebody
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: from El Salvador can get in state tuition, Like it's
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  Speaker 2: wild to me. But they do this over and over again.
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  Speaker 2: They show it over and over again. They care more
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  Speaker 2: about uh protecting illegal immigrants than they do about those
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: who are hurt by them. And it's such a bad issue,
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  Speaker 2: and I think they look at they look at us
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  Speaker 2: on the boys and girls' sports issue and go, I
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  Speaker 2: can't believe this is the hill you're going to pick
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  Speaker 2: to die on. I'm like, my dude, this is an
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  Speaker 2: eighty twenty issue.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We look at them and go, why is this the
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  Speaker 2: hill you're dying on?
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  Speaker 1: And I think maybe they think it's an eighty twenty
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  Speaker 1: issue and they've been so bubblized they don't realize that
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  Speaker 1: at best this is splitting in half for some groups
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  Speaker 1: of migrants, right, And this.
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  Speaker 2: Whole theatrical nonsense. Yeah, tonight's wear padilla and his situation
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  Speaker 2: when he comes into the room. He's not wearing his
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  Speaker 2: pen on purpose. When you're in a situation as a
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  Speaker 2: senator and by the way, not a well known senator
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  Speaker 2: you were appointed. Now he knows who you are.
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  Speaker 3: I have to admit I did not know his name.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: You wear your pen so that all the security can
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  Speaker 2: know that you are who you say you are, the guy.
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  Speaker 2: And it is a whole lot to ask a secret servants,
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  Speaker 2: agents of protection forces in general that you just get
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  Speaker 2: to wander up as a large man to a small
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  Speaker 2: female cabinet secretary. After the president has had three plots
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: for maybe four plots against him for assassination, two of
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: them come close to pulled off, and they're just supposed
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: to sit on their hands. It's until you clarify crazy
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  Speaker 2: puts them in a terrible position, and he did it
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  Speaker 2: on purpose because he wanted this result.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wild. Let me tell you guys a little
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  Speaker 3: bit about Brad Lander, because I just he's the kind
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  Speaker 3: of politician that I always worry will succeed beyond where
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  Speaker 3: he should. So he was my city councilman. He's now
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: the controller of New York City. The last time he
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: got arrested for protesting was in favor of speed cameras
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  Speaker 3: being put around the city. He felt like people were
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: speeding and it's really you know, he wanted to make
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: sure that people weren't going to do that, and somehow
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: that turned into a tussle with police and he got
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: his speed cameras, went on to get dozens of tickets,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: speeding tickets on the speeding cameras he wanted to put in.
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  Speaker 3: But he let me tell you another little story about him.
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  Speaker 3: He one time was on a panel and he got
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: tried to arrange protesters for the panel that he was
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  Speaker 3: participating in for them to come in protest so that
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  Speaker 3: it would make news, and he was since he's completely inept,
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  Speaker 3: he sent them to the wrong address. I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: guy is just he is an embarrassment. I have maybe
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: a little bit too much information on him because he
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: was my city councilman and I felt so strongly about
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: his just ridiculous policies. But this is the guy I
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: always worried would become mayor of New York. Now the
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: other communists running in the race certainly seems as bad,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: if not worse. But yeah, Brad Lander arrested to because
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  Speaker 3: he decided he had to make a splash for his
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  Speaker 3: mayoral campaign. Really, there wasn't at all about, you know,
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  Speaker 3: about anything else. Here is his wife. We have a
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  Speaker 3: clip of his wife talking about what it means that
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  Speaker 3: he got arrested. I mean, it's not what I want
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  Speaker 3: to say to them, but I mean, what are what
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  Speaker 3: are we doing? What are we doing as a country.
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  Speaker 4: If they're gonna take Brad into the elevator like that,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: and he's the citywide elected official, how are they treating
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: our neighbors and our other folks.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would say that, you know, they represent
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: the Justice Department at some point, and this is the
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  Speaker 3: antism antithesis of justice, don't is.
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  Speaker 2: No one above the law? Yeah, or people above the law?
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Now, right, of course, they found tweets of Brad Lander
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: saying no one is above the law. He obviously thinks
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: he is above the law. I tried to interfere with
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: ICE agents because he just felt like he was on
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: the right side of that, and they better listen to him.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing that can be your sincere take right.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I'm an activist, I'm an up in here. I'm going
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: to cause trouble. Great, you also have to take the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: punishment for that. That's your your semi civil disobedience is
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: gonna come right, possibly being a little man handled and
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: dragged away if you look like you're being threatening to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: someone or interfering with law enforcements, lawful duties.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they did. You know, as I'm watching this,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: this like tussle, they really didn't like grab him aggressively.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I felt like, I don't know if I'm an ICE agent.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I maybe this is why I'm not an ICE agent. Yeah,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: but I feel like I would be more like he's
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: stopping you from making the arrest that you're there to make.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: And he just thinks he's gonna link arms, and that'll
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: be you know, why are you arresting me? I'm just
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: standing in this hallway, is what he's saying. And You're like,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: you're not just standing in this hallway, you're literally blocking me.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I think that the agents are report very gentle with him.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: The progress report on a agent Mark Wuitz is that
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: she does not show proper restraint. This is I also
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: think that once once it's been made clear to this
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: person that they can't interfere in the way that they're
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: whether it's padilla or lamber, like, how do the agents
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: not just be like, this is embarrassing for you, right,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: let's just let's just not do that anymore. But I
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: think they they think it looks courageous or virtuous. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: think it looks quite silly. I agree, even when I think, oh,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: maybe they went a little hard, maybe they should let up,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: which I haven't thought yet, Like if I did, I
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: would still be like, but oh, this is what I
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: was gonna say, Carol, if we reversed it and it
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: was like a not very well known Republican senator busted up.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Let's say during Obama Care busted into Kathleen Sibelius. I'm
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: picking a female imagine into into a press conference instead
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: of giving an opposing press conference. Waltz is up in there,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: moves toward the stage, pushes back on officers and then
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: gets put to the ground. Yeah, I would agree with
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the Republican senator's position on Obamacare and say he.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Done brought that on himself, right, not wearing his pin
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: like come on, yeah.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I swear to you I would not give him a break.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I might be like, oh, like, maybe they shouldn't have
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: gone so hard, Like that's that's as far as I
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: would go. Yeah, because I'd be like, that was dumb.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: You should have done that, right.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: But I didn't. I didn't even think that they went
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: hard on Senator pay But he disagrees, and we're gonna
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: we're gonna play a little clip of him tearing up
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: and talking about what they did to him.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: I was forced to the ground, first on my knees
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: and then flat on my chest, and it's those handcuffed
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: and marched down a hallway, repeatedly.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Asking why am I being detained? Not once did they
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: tell me why. I pray you never have a moment
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: like this, but I will tell you. In that moment,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: a lot of questions came to my mind. First of all,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: where are they taking me? Because I know I'm not
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: just being escorted out of the building. Am I being
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: arrested here.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Don't charge at the Secretary of Homeland Security as she's
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: giving a speech and try to interrupt her. And this
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: won't happen to you. It's really just that simple. Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Well, and once he pushes back on those officers, it
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: is an insert that they get him out of the room. Yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: because they don't know whether to believe that he's there
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: doing what he says he's doing.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Also, can I just like appro tip on reaching mail voters.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Stop crying. There's a lot of crying going on Act.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: There's a lot Ken Martin, We're.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Just both not criers.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like, I don't know, I just I just
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: think I'm just saying that's one of the things you.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Can try normally. Pro tip stop crying.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Actually one of my I'm not in favor of more
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: federal laws in general, but if I could ban one thing,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: it would be crying selfie videos.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, illegal right now worse?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, straight to jail.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pineapple and pizza and crying video.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: No, I'm a violator, No violator.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: No, in my uh, in my dictatorship, it would be illegal,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: So you'd check us.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I'm out of luck.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to take a short break and come
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: right back with normally light story wrap us up here.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know how the news media sometimes does
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: this thing where they discover things that have always existed. Yeah, this, yes,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Annually outlets like the New York Times. New York Times
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: does a trend piece this week on is it okay
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: for your kids to rot all summer? Some parents are
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: choosing to forego high intensity camps and activities for their
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: children in favor of weeks of unplanned time. No way
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: call it. They got a name for it, kid rotting.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: One.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I don't like the term rotting. Bed rotting is what
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the youngs call just sitting around binging a TV. Now,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not in favor of the term rotting. It just
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: grosses me out. Right. This is also just known as summer, right,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: that's what used to be known as summer. Yeah, yeah,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I don't need a new version. I fully agree.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: And I wrote about a very similar thing in January
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: of twenty sixteen. It was during the time, you know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: between when kids are off for a break, and everybody
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: was like, what are your kids going to do? And
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I had small kids, and I was like, what am
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I going to do? We take them to the park
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: once a day, and you know, that's what I'm going
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: to do. My kids go to some version of camp.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: They do also have a lot of downtime with no camp,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: weeks and weeks of nothing going on. What I wrote
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: at the time is raising children is exhausting, and there's
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: no reason to make it more difficult by wearing ourselves
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: out in pursuit of entertainment for our kids. That's not
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: to say we shouldn't be involved in our children's lives
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: or long for some glory days where our moms chain
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: smoked cigarettes and played majong with their friends while we
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: entertained ourselves with matches and dry cleaner bags. There is
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: a happy medium, there is, and you know I mentioned
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: this on Fox the other day talking about this. But
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: my fifteen year old daughter has been sleeping till noon
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: every day, and good for her. She works really hard
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: all year. She's a straight A student. Let her enjoy
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: and then she'll have some you know, teen tours coming up.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I loved the way that they have to pay being
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: bored to high strung New York parents in this. By
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: the way, one of the camps on this list that
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: they mentioned in the New York Times piece, which, of course,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: like all of this is out of my income bracket.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: One of the camps is like the Metropolitan Museum of
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Art maybe, and it's fifteen hundred dollars a week. I'm
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: gonna check it, weld On, it's in here. Oh I
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: can't find it, okay, ive, Yeah. The point is at
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: one point in this piece, uh, they there's a person
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: who advises private school admissions missions consultant in Manhattan. She
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: advises these parents to give their kids some unscheduled time,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and she's she says, I tell them their kid will
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: be more ahead with their own experimentation versus taking a
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: class inside other children. She said. Registering for STEM camp,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: for instance, may seem like a great idea to a parent,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: but it can leave little room for a kid to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: explore their natural curiosities. It's all adult driven.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to I have to just also add
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: this is I mean that New York you know type
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: a thing is so so real. But when my daughter
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: was we had our first child and we were living
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: in Manhattan, we had to apply her to nursery school,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: which is like applying to college. I wrote a really
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: jokey essay about like, you know, like she likes to
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: play with her ABC puzzle, but mostly she likes putting
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: all the pieces in a handbag and carrying it around
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: the house. And like I just I made it as much, like,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: isn't this ridiculous? She got in, Yes, if you make
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: if you make a big joke out of it. She
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: got into like, you know, the only the only nursery
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: school we applied to, but that was really really hard
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: to get into. So nice.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, just for the record, it is
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: the American Museum of Natural History and it is thirteen hundred.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Per week, thirteen hundred a week. That is in sanity.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Why I was thinking eight hundred as a like extremely
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: high number that would be ridiculous.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Well, and I would say, I get it that people
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: need childcare obviously, That's why people end up with kids
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: at YMCA camps. And actually I think day camps at
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: REX and nine yeah, probably are a lot of boredom,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Like they're not exactly totally planning that day either. But
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: there is so much to be said for kids having
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: unstructured time just goof off and they find so many
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: cool things to do. My kids this summer have started
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: with a friend in the neighborhood. They started playing like
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: a pirate themed game and now they've decided that they're
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: writing a book about pirates, but like they're the daughters
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: of pirates, and I actually think it's a pretty great concept.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: And they've everyday with like little character studies and I'm like,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: if I had them in camp, they would be doing this.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, I fully on board. My kids live outside
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: most of the year. I totally love it, and yeah,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: let them enjoy it, let them be kids, like just
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: all this structured stuff, you.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Know, that's part of it too. It's it's and it
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: makes parenting more fun because you are not you are
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: not killing yourself to shuttle your children from thing to thing,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and you might actually get organic, creative fun time with them, exactly,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: and they're not burnt out and you're not as burnt out. Absolutely.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: So Yeah, Lady Parenting with Carol and MK Lazy Parenting.
• 30:26
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• 30:29
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