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He got his entire camp STOLEN! Hunt CLOSER to the road, be MORE successful? · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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Again, see your face. Very much shout out to you.
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I think it's Aaron Lewis. I still haven't looked it up,
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but I'm pretty sure that's the singer of that song.
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I'm almost positive legend, though.
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Good song, one of the best. So we're in Nebraska.
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Nebraska. With my guy Ethan and Scott, who
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he was on his first podcast yesterday and he's on his second
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one today. Technically, you were actually
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on a podcast today because it went in.
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Still, Yeah, yeah. So technically you went from
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doing. Zero podcasts to.
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Two in the same. Day, yeah, so we start lining.
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Day Yeah, I was about to say start lining them up next couple
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months. We just go 2A day.
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That water is so good. Shout out to Casey's.
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Yeah, dude. Have you had their pizza yet?
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No, I don't look at that. You're like the fourth person
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that asked us though. Everyone keeps.
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I guess we're going to have to get Casey.
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I would say before you leave, definitely check out Casey's.
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Pizza. So we have a couple of Nebraska
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specific questions. Number one, do you guys have
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Chili's? Like the restaurant?
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Yeah. Yeah, OK.
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I haven't seen one, but I've been create.
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I've been talking about Chili's. You know, now that you say that,
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the Chili's that I think I know of, I'll have to double check
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it's still there. Oh, it might have turned into a
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Chick-fil-A, I'm not sure. OK, but we're looking for a
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Chili's or an Applebee's along the road.
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Like they have these margaritas for Halloween that have like
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sharks in them and different themes.
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And I could go for one. They're packed with sugar.
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Terrible for you, but when in Rome?
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Absolutely. Or when in Nebraska.
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Yeah, like I said, the the things that most people want to
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hit are like Runza amigos, OK? And those are a couple of fast
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food joints, but they're Midwest Pacific Amigos is like, you
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know, Mexican food runzas. Like it's hard to describe a
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runs. It's like a casserole.
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Unlike a meat casserole, it's like a sandwich.
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That sounds amazing. Definitely try out.
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OK. All right.
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It's it's. You got to go.
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So, all right, so we just did a shooting battle and Scott
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basically just came off the rails.
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Yeah, I walked away with it. He's in a good way.
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He. Smoked us.
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I was anticipating trouble from you guys, but I didn't.
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I didn't figure it was going to be so hot and so Scott right
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away. Everything.
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That was our first. Straight bar.
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And spin wheel. He smoked everything over 100
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locked in. Oh yeah, 100%.
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And we think we think we've assessed the new confidence is
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the big Ranger energy, big nice color to kind of dark, but big,
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it's big. And I think that's what's really
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bringing you the confidence is the big dark truck.
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Would you say that? I would agree.
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I think it doesn't hurt. No, it doesn't hurt.
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It's not having that thing. I mean, maybe we do like a a
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nice little pan of the truck right here, but I mean, look at
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it it's. Gorgeous it is what?
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It's nice. And then we got a Honda Pilot.
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Oh dude, that legendary reliable.
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That pilot has seen something. Love it.
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It has. And you came home usually on a
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hunt. You want to come home heavier?
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You actually came home quite a bit lighter.
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I did. Let's talk about that.
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So real. I mean I have haunted a lot
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where I'm like nowhere near camp all day for a month straight
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sometimes and I thought many times, hey, my stuff could get
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stolen. Oh yeah, it's possible.
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I mean, it's always in the back of your.
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Head, but it's never happened to me yet.
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I'm sure it will one day. What was that like coming back?
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Your stuff's gone. So to give people a little bit
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of a background, I spent 16 days in Colorado and on the 16th day,
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which was season ender, I had at this point made a great plan on
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a bowl that we were calling Donkey Kong.
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And I had good plans to like go in there and and he was living
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off this first shelf that was about 1500 feet up.
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And most of it's all like deadfall and like cliffed out
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stuff. So it's like I'm almost
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impossible to get up to him and in order to drop down on him
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like it's an all day event, you know.
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So I had been working this side and, and I basically I knew
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where he was using this side of the mountain.
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And then right at the end of season, he switched and he went
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up to the other side of the mountain.
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And in some sense it was almost easier because I was like, I
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know this side pretty good. And, and now like he's on this
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side, but I can hear this side way better than I can hear this
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side. So I knew exactly where he was,
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where he was locating. And, and so I, I had a like a
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banger plan to go in on him and I went up and I had left camp
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that day at 5:30 AM and then spent basically the entire day
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hunting and then gotten back to camp like 9:30 that night.
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And yeah, I mean, I, I rolled up into camp and my first thought
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was like, OK, I probably placed, I, I probably move like where
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did I move to? And like instantly is in the
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back. Because at this point I've moved
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camp two or three times over the mountain, like in there 16 days.
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And I've kind of just popped around and jumped around to at
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one point I was camping lower with some people originally, and
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then once the spot moved up higher on the mound, I had
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better service and I was like. Yeah, that's that service at
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campus. Nice.
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Super nice and so. Now I do got to say quick
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tangent started from the bottom, but now I got star link baby.
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Oh yeah. Oh, I feel wealthy out there.
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Oh yeah, I feel, yeah. And even the service that they
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have out there, you can't even like, I was having problems like
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you couldn't post a video. You would be able to post
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pictures, but if a video had just too much data.
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So it was like it was bad. And so just kind of updated to
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my Instagram throughout pictures and stuff like that throughout I
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what I could. And then, yeah, coming back to
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camp, I was like, for sure, like I left all my coolers at the
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other can. And I'm just remembering that
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like, I put them up here. And then I was like, it kind of
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crossed through your mind and it's like, no, they were here,
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you know what I mean? Like, you don't ever want to be
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like, Oh yeah, for sure. I just got my stuff jacked, you
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know, But it hit me when the only thing that I had seen that
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they left was a trash bag. And at this point, I'm like, Oh
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my gosh. Maybe like, you know, you go
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through all of the scenarios, maybe like Forest Service, like
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thought this was an abandoned camp and they've got all my
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stuff on a trailer. Like, you know, and then I was
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like, the trash can there, man. Like they, they left the trash
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bag. Like if it was Forest Service,
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that they would have been up the can.
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Yeah, exactly. And so, yeah, I was looking
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around and it was kind of hitting me, all I was missing in
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chunks. And I was like, at first it was
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like, shoot, my coolers are gone.
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That sucks. And then I looked over and the
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brand new hammock I had bought, it was missing.
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And then I looked over there, my camp chair was missing.
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And then I was like, oh for sure, they stole my archery
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block. Yeah.
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And that and that. Video.
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You need to post that as a real. That's the funniest.
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Part I couldn't believe it. It was like, yeah, for sure they
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did. And so they obviously that
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archery block was missing too. And and so then in my head, I'm
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like, I don't even know. Like my first thought was like,
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it just happened, you know what I mean?
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Even though it probably happened at 7:00 AM, you know what I
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mean? In my head I was like, oh dude,
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like maybe. I must have just missed.
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Yeah, exactly. So I drove up the mountain
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thinking in the back of my head that maybe I would find a cooler
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with or, you know, a trailer with some coolers or something.
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But I mean, there was nobody up on the top side of the mountain.
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I drove all the way back down and nobody, you know, I looked
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in a couple of camps just to see like, how bold would it be to
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steal something and then be camping?
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But also, but also it was like my last ditch effort at trying
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to find my stuff. And so yeah, I think mainly what
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sucked the most is like, it didn't even hit me that like my
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hunt was over right away because like, I was just missing stuff
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and like trying to figure out my brain was just all over the
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place and I was like, dude, oh, this sucks.
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Like, I wonder what was in that dry storage?
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Like I had some camping stuff and and then I started thinking
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about it and I was like, I don't have any coolers, dude.
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Like if I killed that bull tomorrow like.
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What am I going to do? What am I?
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Supposed to do yeah and so I started calling around and the
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nearest place that had a cooler would have been like 3 hour
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drive so it's like I'm not even I'm not even trying to do this
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anymore yeah I was like I felt like there was like the day
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before so like it was basically just me up there for the last
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like 6 days I had gotten in between camps basically Joel and
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Alyssa were supposed to be there Alyssa was planning on spending
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three days and she got altitude sickness right away and so she
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has saw him off the mountain and then Joel got sick and so like I
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think I haunted one or two days with Joel maybe and I mean it
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was just basic you know it was just him kind of getting out to
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an easy spot to try to hunt you know it was just he started
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getting a head cold and a fever and it just wasn't good so.
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And you lined up with some guys from Texas, right?
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Yeah. So that was cool.
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Yeah, so they had, they had been camping there the year prior to
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it. And dude, like you should, I've
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got some video of it. I'll, I'll end up making a video
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of it. But their camp is like they
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brought 2 deep freezers. Oh, cool.
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My generator canvas and freezer. It was the setup.
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That's the way to go. That's setup.
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And they cooked so much. We had like gar patties one
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night. That's cool.
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Yeah, dude, they had a gumbo, like a Kraus gumbo that they
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had. Yeah, dude, they were just.
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So when I, when I got up there, I started talking with them.
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He was like, yeah, we remember you from last year.
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Yeah. And so we kind of talked.
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And so it wasn't that evening, but then it kind of started me
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thinking that I was like, man, like really what I want to do
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out here is I like, I want to get something on film.
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And if I'm filming and hunting, it's just so hard.
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I mean, you guys know. And so it kind of hit me that I
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was like, I could probably tag along with them and I might be
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able to get some footage for them.
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And it'll be beneficial for both of us.
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That way if somebody kills, then if they've got it on camera, we
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can receive the footage and you know, if we need to look at the
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shot or whatever. So.
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That's very valuable. That's one thing I really like
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about is it, you know, if you're unsure of something, you can
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just. You know, Oh yeah, tape.
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Or even the audio before we. Even went to go get the lane
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shot of cow and before we, you know, even got into the woods to
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look at the arrow, we knew exactly where the shot was and
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where it came in and where it exited, what to expect, you
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know, looking for the elk and it was a it was a good shot.
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I've never seen. So get this.
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We're shooting a camp today. The day of that evening.
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He shot that cow and we're shooting and he's, we're
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shooting just behind camp, like his dad's kind of in camp.
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And he was like, Lane, your arrows are like real loud.
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He's like, I don't know what like.
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So I started looking at him. Dude, I've never seen so much
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helical in my life like this. This.
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Yeah. And I think he said the archery
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shop did it for him or whatever, but his arrows were whistling.
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Yeah. To the point where at 35 yards
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that helped up the arrow. Oh, yeah.
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She heard that shot and went down and it came in a little
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high, but like, you see exit and you can see it on the other side
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of her. I mean, it's it's double wall.
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She went 60 yards a foul left. Perfect, Perfect.
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But yeah, it was. It was why it's pretty wild.
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Yeah, that's not fun. I mean, getting something stolen
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like that just, you know, makes you not trust people and feel
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kind of just this like nasty feeling, you know, it's just
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like such a bummer. And and not only that, but what
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I think about is what if you had been, I don't know, that was
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your only food and water? No, I know I could.
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Have you know that could have been really bad.
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You know, three days, Spike. Camp and your car's broken down
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or something, you know, And then now you have no food, water, and
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no transportation. Like, you know, I mean, it's a
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hypothetical, but it's certainly possible.
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No. And you know.
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There's no regard for someone else who you know, whoever did.
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That I'm pretty sure I know who was to the day before.
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I had seen a couple of logging crews that were on the mountain
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that look kind of scallywag, you know, they were definitely some
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rough dudes. But.
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I don't know if that's who did it or not, but I just have a
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hard time thinking that another hunter in that same unit would
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end up stealing from us. You know, everybody that we
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talked to was so nice, right? You know, we talked to a guy
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that had been hunting at Mountain since the 90s and he
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was like, never had anything happen and now so.
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Do you bump into a lot of hunters out there?
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When we first got out there, it was busier than I've ever seen
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it. That spot that we were at in the
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unit, I just felt like it was a popular spot.
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I feel like you get anywhere outside of where we were at, you
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could probably open up with, you know, not so much pressure.
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But I also think depending on where the hunting pressure is
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at, it can help you in certain shots.
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I mean, you're talking with some of the guys from Texas.
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I killed a bull in that same unit last year.
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And I was talking with him and I was like, yeah, he's like that
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day that you killed that bull. We were just were like
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coordinating where he they were at.
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And I was like, I wonder, like, I wonder if part of the reason I
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killed that bull wasn't because those guys for Texas were higher
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on the mountain and put pressure to the point where those elk
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will a little lower a little sooner.
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And it was just, I wouldn't have seen him if it wasn't for them,
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you know, so. Yeah, there elk hunting's weird.
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Like I think a lot of times like especially in over the counter,
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like not very good units. I think a lot of times guys
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think that like the way to hack the system is to go super far.
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And a lot of times, I mean I've, I've killed 3 over the counter
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bulls in a row in an over the counter unit and all of them
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were not far from the road. Right.
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Sometimes I almost think people go past the.
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ELK, OH 100. Percent and I read I read an
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article a long time ago by Chuck Adams to you know, it was like
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an idol for me growing up. Best bow hunter of all time.
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But like, he wrote an article about guys routinely hiking past
14:28
the elk and the elk will hang out closer to like, roads and
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walkways. And I've.
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I have found that to be true. Yeah.
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Where? In some case, not always, but
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often times, I don't think the elk are like.
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No. Let me go 15 miles from the road
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I think they think it in. Spots where like one of the guys
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from Texas killed a four by four and where he was at.
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I was like, yeah, this makes sense, you know what I mean?
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But like where I killed my bull and where Lane killed his cow.
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I mean, that pack out was 750 yards, Yeah.
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Like, yeah. It wasn't you would 100%
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overlook spot behind to get into the spot that you go up the
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mountain and it's kind of one of the first meadows you see and
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it's you know, there's a lot of camping activity and stuff like
15:14
that down low on the mountain. But 1500 feet up off that
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there's more elk sign than I've ever seen.
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Wow, you know, and it's just 1500 foot up some straight stuff
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and deadfall. Nobody, wow, really wants to get
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back in there. Were you seeing elk pretty much
15:29
every day? So in that spot where we're at
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is very hard to see elk in general at all because they it's
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so thick. Yeah.
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And so we had elk 60 yards from us at points, so you can see
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just bugle in their ears off, you know, and I, I, he couldn't
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ever guess if it was right on the other side of the Bush or
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like 60-70 years. I don't know it's.
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Just so tough depending. On the the sound travels so
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weird in there, there was 1 area where so when he Hunter is his
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name Hunter Evans killed that 4x4 and where we got down into
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him, they were locate calling in order to just make sure that
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like we knew what direction they were.
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We could hear them perfect. At that point where I was like,
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OK, we're close enough. I'm going to RIP some bugles and
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let them know. Like I was like, Calvary's
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coming, you know, like we're going to get this bull packed
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out. So I just grabbed the horn and I
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start ripping like 45 seconds of the loudest bugles.
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I absolutely could just crazy bugles.
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I get up there and they were like, yeah, we were wondering
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when you'd get here and Lane was like, did you hear him calling?
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Nothing, nothing. We were 200 yards away from him.
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Couldn't they couldn't hear us at all.
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We could hear them like they were.
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It sounded like they were 50. Yards.
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Isn't that something so wow. Just weird how that travels
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throughout the mountain. Dude, yeah, elk bugles can
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change a lot. Like sometimes they'll sound
16:44
right on top of you and they're like a whole friggin cany in a
16:48
wet. But it just depends, like how
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the echoes work in certain different areas.
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And yeah, we just went on a crazy elk on New Mexico for my
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dad, and fortunately he didn't. He did get one.
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But how long were you guys there?
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It was awesome. The whole season.
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So 10 it was 10 days season was 10 days and we were scouting for
17:05
six and I mean we were covered up and out.
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We just we had one great opportunity the very first
17:12
morning called in this really nice bull.
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I got beautiful footage. I'm hopping a fence right to us.
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I. Want to say I've seen?
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That it's a beautiful clip. So that bull stood there
17:24
broadside at 65 and then jumped the fence and stood broadside at
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33. And my dad just wasn't able to
17:30
get the bow back and get a shot off.
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And after that, like we are covered up in elk.
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We just never had a shot opportunity, if that makes
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sense. Like it wasn't like we were
17:39
unsuccessfully. We weren't having problems
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finding elk or being near elk. We just couldn't get around off,
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you know, and eventually we put him on a wallow that we found.
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And I figured for sure, I'm like, did you sit this wallow
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for the last few days? Like something will come in and
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just did you know, it didn't pan out, but which hurts.
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Like my dad and I very rarely will go on a hunt and not fill
18:07
the tack, you know? So for us, that was a tough one
18:09
to swallow. But it was like never from a
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lack of effort or anything. It was just didn't pan out.
18:15
Sometimes that's hunting. Oh, it's.
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You know what I mean? Well, yeah, and.
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You hunt a lot with your dad. Yeah, I have my whole life
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right. So we've done a ton together and
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but that was the first hunt where like a lot of times we'll
18:27
apply as a party and now we don't do that.
18:30
It's terrible for your odds in a lot of states.
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So we apply, everyone applies individually.
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And so he had attacks. It was all hands on deck for
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him. And the actual look, I mean, we
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made kind of a long hunt out of it.
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We went to Arizona 1st and and did a deer hunt.
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Ariana got a deer and then. Was that the Mulee?
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Yeah, she got a mulee and then my buddy Garrett got a Mulee and
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then we had several other people in the group had shots fed.
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Oh, couple farm shots in the green, but we were gone 35 days.
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Heck yeah, I did. 35 four day pull.
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Yeah. And I didn't have A tag the
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whole time, just that filming. Yeah, hanging out and helping.
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That's what I'm saying. I think, you know, for me
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personally, getting behind the camera is almost just as much
19:12
fun, if not maybe more sometimes.
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I love filming, you know, I mean, I, I, I do, I do obviously
19:18
like, love to. I would prefer to, you know,
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have A tag, but that's a split season, right?
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So I had already filled my tag in January on a Coos, a
19:26
whitetail. So I didn't have A tag.
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And then and then of course, hell cunt, only my dad had A
19:32
tag. But you know, I've also shot
19:37
more stuff this year than probably ever.
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I've shot 9 things this year, which like when you're not
19:42
hunting, it's a trip to me coming out like hunting Oklahoma
19:46
or something because I'm like, I can fight 5 or 6 those in a day,
19:49
you know, like, or whatever the laws are, be like, you can shoot
19:52
a lot, stack bodies, and it's not the same like where I'm
19:55
from, like you're lucky to get one or two things.
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Yeah. Oh yeah.
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So even though like my hunting season here is somewhat wrapped,
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it's crazy to have nine things that I've shot this year.
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And like you said, most hunting seasons, aren't you?
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Say, yeah, most people start stacking and remember, you know,
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like, yeah, when they start getting a lot of action, yeah,
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anyway. Do you enjoy Dope Patrol?
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Oh yeah, I love dope patrol. Yeah, you can't beat it.
20:24
Yeah, I'm a big proponent for dope patrol.
20:27
I haven't been I'm. I'm an opportunist, you know,
20:31
like an opportunist where like, don't get me wrong, I if I know
20:35
of a big buck that's in the area, I'll pass it to L for sure
20:37
in order to wait for it. But I usually get my doe tags
20:41
out of the out of the way early and try to kill one or two.
20:44
And then I got Nebraska's a Tupac state.
20:47
So, you know, I'll kind of try to be picky with one of them for
20:51
sure. And, and anymore I kind of
20:53
started being more picky with both of them at this point.
20:57
It's, it's not that I've even, I've killed like I've killed a
21:00
good buck that, you know, I say a good buck for me.
21:05
Like I was, I shot him because it was the biggest buck I'd ever
21:09
had in front of me, you know, so I say he's probably 120, you
21:14
know, nothing, nothing crazy. We go.
21:16
But it was, it was an opportunity that I, I wanted to
21:19
fill my tag on. So I was happy with it.
21:21
But then coming off the back of that and now that I'm like, OK,
21:26
now I've like the the whole game of like, all right, you know,
21:29
you've killed something that's maybe something similar to it
21:32
like you always kind of grow with.
21:34
That this one sure you know. And it's like, OK, you know,
21:36
stuff I would have been passing for sure, you know, like, or
21:40
stuff I, I wouldn't have shot, which is always fun because you
21:43
get to see more deer. And, and anymore with the video
21:46
stuff that I've been doing is like, I kind of like having him
21:50
work in if I can and get as much video as possible.
21:53
And then if I have an opportunity past that, that's
21:57
great. I might consider that.
21:58
But it's like, for me, it's like, if you can kill him on
22:02
camera, that's as much fun for me as as having a, you know?
22:06
It's a whole other challenge, whole other piece to the puzzle,
22:09
you know? And how many dose can you shoot
22:12
in Nebraska? So you can keep buying tags
22:15
until they sell out, pretty much, I'm pretty sure, yeah.
22:18
So I usually get to right off the bat, Yeah, like a sees its
22:21
choice and their list I think was what they call them.
22:24
And then I think you could pretty much.
22:27
Feel so you can get like almost done one, yeah.
22:30
I know I want to say there was one guy that killed 10 last.
22:34
Oh wow, 10 in a year. And it was just had the area for
22:38
it, you know, and it was just, you know, you needed the dough's
22:41
gone. And he was like, this is the
22:44
best way to do it, you know. Oh.
22:45
Dude, it was so funny when I when I went out hunting with
22:49
Badlands and last year in Oklahoma, it was so funny
22:53
because, you know, all I've ever haunted is Western states my
22:58
whole life, you know? So I go out there and we're
23:02
like, where? Where as far as state.
23:05
Oklahoma, Oklahoma. So I go out there and they're
23:08
like, yeah, So you know, this is like your stand or whatever that
23:13
we're going to put you at and you can shoot.
23:16
I don't remember the exact numbers are like a buck and four
23:20
dose. And I was like, I can shoot.
23:21
What is what was that? They're like, yeah, you can
23:23
shoot 4 dose. I'm like, OK, dude, I go out
23:29
there and I was like, I just kept everyday thump and doze
23:33
right? And they would come back and
23:34
they're like, you know, you could shoot a buck.
23:36
I was like, I'm not going to shoot a small buck.
23:38
So like I'm have trust me, to me, it's a trip that I've just
23:41
shot 3 doze, you know, like it's crazy.
23:44
Like it blew my mind that that was an impossible.
23:47
Thing I mean, you get so much experience with every shot you
23:50
take. That.
23:51
When you have the opportunity to shoot 3 doze in a couple of
23:55
days, you get, I mean, for a lot of people that's like 3 years of
23:59
experience, you know what I mean?
24:00
If oh shoot 1 doe a year or something like that, you only
24:04
have a certain amount of time. You can hunt things like that,
24:07
which I mean it, everybody is. But it's, you know, when you get
24:12
to have that experience and start stacking that, it's great
24:17
knowledge. Oh man, I I think it's the best
24:21
way to do anything like that. No, it's like learning a job.
24:24
We talked about it the other day in the car.
24:25
It's like so many times any education, like you can take a
24:30
whole course on how to paint a house, but like until you
24:33
actually go paint some houses, you're just not going to know
24:38
how to paint a house really well, right.
24:39
But you always learn better on the job.
24:41
I do. I think everybody, I mean, for
24:43
the most look at we got we got a shooter here.
24:46
What a legend. Cool archery range.
24:49
Yeah, yeah, this is a great spot.
24:51
Just get a antelope. Yes, I did.
24:53
Nice. Yeah.
24:53
Off the backside of hunting, Colorado.
24:57
I came home a day early, which is wild.
24:59
So got forced off a mountain basically by having my stuff
25:02
stolen right on the way back. On the way back, I'm driving
25:06
through, actually, it's the town that you guys were talking about
25:08
staying in all the way through. And then I stopped and pulled
25:13
over and I had a couple text messages.
25:14
I do flooring for a living. So I knew I had another job
25:17
coming up, but I didn't know exactly what the deadline look
25:20
like for. And so she got back to me on
25:23
what she needed as a deadline. And as soon as I knew that it
25:26
wasn't the next day that I needed it, then I was like,
25:29
we're turning around, we're going out or going antelope
25:31
hunting. And so I turned around and just
25:34
for, I knew for like 1 morning I'd be able to get out and just
25:37
have, you know, I'd haunted them early season.
25:40
And so I knew where they were in the early season.
25:42
And so I went in and I, I pulled over in a farm outlet that I
25:47
have permission to and I just camped there.
25:49
And then the next morning I knew I'd be close, you know, like,
25:54
based on where I'd seen that I was hunting a fuck.
25:56
I was called Papa Joe. And so I give him all dumb
26:01
nicknames, but this, there's two of them that I was calling Slim
26:05
Jim was another one that I really, he's just real
26:07
Hightower, you know, he just looked like that Slim Jim guy.
26:11
But Papa Joe was one of them that I really wanted to get on
26:15
to. And I ended up, I get up and it
26:19
was like maybe 5:45. I kind of stumble around, get
26:24
dressed, and then I got on the road and where we hunt Pantalope
26:29
is basically you drive roads until you see it.
26:31
Go ahead and make a play, you know and so.
26:34
It's like nonstop stalking is. Never on Yeah, I'd like to take
26:39
you out there so we should I will ask I would love to do is.
26:42
So over the counter. Yep.
26:44
I think now that I say that you might, you might have to double
26:47
check on that. I'm not sure for refs.
26:49
I know Joel's talking. I think it is a draw, but I
26:51
think it's. Easy.
26:52
Probably draw if you put in, yeah.
26:55
So yeah, ended up driving about 5 minutes down the road and the
27:00
first group of antelope I've seen, there's three of them, two
27:03
doughs in that buck. And I kind of, you know, did one
27:05
of these with the knee and was like glassing on them, like
27:09
slowed down enough to where I could like glass to him and seen
27:12
that it was one of the bucks that I was chasing.
27:14
And so I just kept driving. You know, if you slow down with
27:18
antelope most any game, but like if you slow down with antelope,
27:21
they're gone. They're gone, you know, And so
27:24
I'm watching my rearview mirror as I'm coming up over the hill
27:27
and I'm, I see you exactly where I went outside of where they
27:30
could see. And I just pulled over and I
27:33
jumped into the ditch and I ran about 40 yards into the ditch
27:35
and they cut about 40 yards into the field.
27:38
And there was a little rise where they were coming up over
27:40
and it was enough to where I thought I was going to be able
27:44
to get up over them and just like shoot them, you know.
27:47
But I got up to the top and I could see them like they were
27:50
already working close enough to where I just backed off that
27:53
Ridge. I backed off the Ridge maybe 40
27:56
yards and, and where they were at, they just fed right up over
27:59
the top. I've got my camera in my hands
28:02
and I'm just like taking pictures of them And as soon as
28:05
he comes up over the hill, like I take a couple really good
28:08
pictures of him. Best picture of an antelope I've
28:10
ever taken it. Like I, I think I saw that alone
28:12
or wise. It is one of my favorite
28:14
pictures. I'm going to have a canvas and
28:15
like I'm going to make it like super nice.
28:17
But I snapped a couple pictures and at this point I'm like for
28:21
sure, based on everything that I've, I mean, this is my fourth
28:24
year antelope hunting. Antelope are curious sometimes
28:28
and you can use that to your advantage if you get inside of
28:31
their like 300 yard bubble and you've gotten there without them
28:35
seeing you get there. I feel like they're more curious
28:38
and they are scared sometimes. And he's looking right at me and
28:43
I snapped this picture and I'm like, OK, here's the point where
28:45
you like turn around and take off.
28:47
You know, I'm kind of like looking at my bow, looking at
28:49
like trying to like maybe try to make a play.
28:52
And as soon as I take this picture, he's like looks at his
28:55
dose and he kind of looks back at me and he just starts feeding
28:58
again. And I'm like, OK, you don't
29:00
like, don't you fool me once, You know what I mean?
29:03
Like I'm going to take a picture of you.
29:04
That's fine. And then as soon as you give me
29:06
an opportunity, like it was, I was on my bow and I pulled back
29:10
and I ranged the top of the hill at 40 yards earlier, but I
29:14
backed out a little bit. So when they came up over the
29:17
hill, I think he was maybe at 45 or something like that.
29:20
But I shot him for 40 thinking it was, you know, center vitals,
29:25
a little bit room for error. And yeah, I ended up pulling my
29:30
bow back and as soon as I pulled my bow back, he kind of went
29:33
broadside and was like, you know, what's going on, you know,
29:35
And as soon as I got, I remember did my pen was like tail to
29:39
nose, you know, it's just like sitting there for a second.
29:42
And I remember thinking like, all right, they push into your
29:45
bow arm, you know, settle that pen.
29:47
So I gave it a little bit pressure towards that target and
29:50
I just settled in. And as that release popped off,
29:53
I just like it drifted in like you always wanted to, you know
29:57
what I mean? It just slide and I, you hear it
30:00
hit him and you never know, you know what I mean?
30:02
Sometimes it's like, was it lungs or was it bone?
30:05
Sometimes they almost sound the same.
30:07
Yeah, they if you hit that shoulder, but it slid in and it
30:10
didn't make a lot of noise. And I just felt like I'd gotten
30:12
him behind that shoulder and I was just like instantly right
30:16
away, like any of the antelope I've killed before.
30:18
I'm like on the glass, like looking at him, making sure like
30:20
where was the shot? Can I see anything about him?
30:22
How far they going, dude? I just like at that point after
30:25
16 days in Colorado and getting my stuff stolen, dude, I didn't
30:29
have any energy. I just like turned around and
30:31
started crying. It was like just like straight
30:34
up like I was just thanking God and I was just like, there's
30:37
like no way that that just happened, you know what I mean?
30:40
Like to spend all that time getting my butt kicked in in
30:43
Colorado and then, you know, on a last ditch effort to try to
30:47
fill the antelope first day, first day, first stock, getting
30:50
it done like that. I I mean, I can say safely that
30:53
that will never happen again. You know, it's just one of those
30:56
things that I, you know, everybody you know, has has
31:00
their own idea of whether it's like, you know, spiritual or
31:03
like is it a God thing is it just happens to had to be.
31:06
I felt like in that moment I was just like, after getting to
31:11
spend time on the mountain for me is just spiritually like I
31:14
just, I'm a religious guy. So I'm pretty and I just, I'm, I
31:17
get into with my feels about it and I'm like, man, like this is
31:20
what we're supposed to be doing. You know, this is like what
31:22
we're called to do. And so I had a ton of time to
31:26
pray on the mountain. And it was just like one of
31:28
those things that when I got my stuff stolen, one of my first
31:32
reactions was to just pray for them too, because I was just
31:34
like, man, how lost are some people that that that's like
31:38
what they're going to do today is they probably stole my stuff
31:40
and they probably had five other spots that they hit that they
31:43
had, you know, but you know, through the whole process, just
31:48
trusting God. And I was just, I felt like, I
31:52
mean, I, I don't know, you know, you, you have things happen out
31:54
like, like a movie. Yeah.
31:56
I mean, it's like, it felt like, yeah, literally.
31:58
I mean, there was no way what a story, anything like that could
32:01
ever happen. And it's hunting, man.
32:04
You just never know. You got to put in, you know, the
32:06
time and it, you got to be kind of headstrong and a little bit
32:10
stupid because like I say, I drove 2 hours back out of my way
32:14
basically in order to hunt that animal for, for a few hours, you
32:17
know, but I didn't know they were going to be there.
32:20
I didn't know anything was going to be.
32:21
I just was like, screw it, you know it.
32:23
Panned out, I mean. Try to go get some video or
32:25
something. It really was cool to kind of, I
32:28
mean, obviously it wasn't cool to see your stuff get stolen.
32:34
I didn't even know about it. So like Brianna and Scott were
32:38
like, yo, dude, they were like talking about did you guys see
32:42
Ethan got his stuff stolen? I was like, now I didn't see
32:46
that. So like I went and watched it
32:48
and low key, like Scott said, hilarious part.
32:53
My targets going to be gone. I guarantee you it's a hilarious
32:57
time. That was you got to post that as
32:59
a real. That was so funny.
33:01
But like, yeah, just the whole saga, right of that and you
33:06
somehow making a hilarious reaction in some ways.
33:10
But then like that you being like sad and mad and then having
33:15
like a hilarious line, but then like ended up getting antelope.
33:19
It was just really cool to kind of like see the whole thing
33:23
play. It was really cool and and in
33:26
real time, which is which is cool.
33:28
You know, we talk about it often, you know, the pros and
33:30
cons of social media. But like, I think there's just
33:34
as many pros as there is cons. And like, one of the pros is for
33:38
you to sort of have people supporting you.
33:42
I'm good, man. That really sucks.
33:43
Go get them like people supporting.
33:45
But then also for us, the people watching the story unfold in
33:51
real time is really cool. No, yeah, it's.
33:53
Really cool. So I don't know, I think yeah,
33:57
the whole thing was crazy. And obviously that's a bummer.
33:59
Maybe. Maybe you'll get a cooler
34:02
sponsor, you know? Yeah, get some igloo sponsor,
34:06
give me a Yeti sponsorship or something.
34:08
Yeah, I am thankful that you know the stuff that I had none
34:11
of it. I mean, All in all, I think they
34:13
probably got away with about $1000 worth of stuff, which it
34:17
sucks, but when you consider. Your cameras were there.
34:20
I had my laptop and my camera in my bow, you know, and if, who
34:24
knows what type of people they were, maybe if they saw my
34:26
vehicle there, they wouldn't have stopped.
34:27
Maybe they would have stopped. So, you know, I'm happy that I
34:31
wasn't there when it happened. It is if I was out taking
34:33
pictures and they saw a nice lens and a camera.
34:35
They probably want that to you. Know just Oh yeah yeah and.
34:40
Yeah, it's a it's an interesting world we live in, but I feel
34:45
like hunting is one of those things and and social media too
34:48
is is it plays into it where it's like, you know, getting to
34:52
be here with you guys. Obviously, you know, you guys
34:55
are kind of making a tour right now going through stopping at a
34:58
couple places as you had to pick up the sick truck of his.
35:01
But yeah. But to just be able to have
35:04
direction and have some something an outlet to, you
35:09
know, have a plan to go out to Colorado and and make content of
35:13
some kind, whether I ever end up posting it or not.
35:15
It's just fun to have in general to look back and as a memory
35:20
that and it, it, it sucks too because I, I feel like I am, I,
35:23
I do a lot of it where it's like, oh dude, I've got 2
35:26
terabytes of footage and I posted like 6 pictures from it,
35:29
you know what I mean? So I need to do a better job of
35:31
keeping everybody updated with things like.
35:34
Getting stuff. Yeah, getting stuff out there,
35:36
which was definitely one of my bottlenecks.
35:39
Right now it's just. I always say that, yeah.
35:43
I mean, I always say that I think if for like aspiring
35:49
content creators, I always say the biggest, the, the most
35:53
common mistake I see people make is lack of output is always
36:02
number one. I think a lot of people are
36:06
like, oh, I can't put something out if it's not perfect.
36:09
And it's like, and what is it? One of my favorites?
36:12
Paralysis by analysis, right? I see people do it all the time,
36:16
not pump stuff out. And I meanwhile, like for us,
36:20
I've always been output has to be first, output has to be
36:25
first. And some of the best stuff we've
36:28
done ever has been like, I don't know, just like some Lucy that
36:33
we did. And it's like bangs crazy.
36:36
Well, sometimes I. Relate to that content?
36:38
Yeah, that's when you over produce.
36:39
Off the hip stuff is sometimes the best.
36:42
Over produce and overthink things.
36:44
You leave stuff out that you might not think in the moment is
36:48
relatable or is is like that archery thing where you know,
36:51
like in that moment, like until you guys told me like, I didn't
36:54
think that was even of of like a funny moment of just like, Oh
36:58
yeah. And for sure they just The
36:59
Archers. Yeah, it's hilarious, like the
37:01
timing, but. The timing you like you say.
37:03
It's a viral. It's one of those things that if
37:05
you, if you start spending more time editing things, you're
37:07
editing things that other people might want to watch and you, you
37:11
put them, you know, if you take it off the cutting table, then
37:14
it's gone forever. And and so having more like you
37:17
say, cut from hip, you know, just lose content.
37:19
And I do love like really sitting down and like editing
37:23
out like a like a a film. I'm not.
37:26
Oh, cinematic stuff is one of my favorite stuff to do.
37:28
Like I, I love it and I don't make stuff that's like as
37:31
cinematic as what you do. But like, sometimes I'll have
37:33
like an idea, you know, for like a hunt and I'll go, OK, if I can
37:37
pull this off, then I'll call the video this and the storyline
37:40
could kind of be this and it kind of be cool.
37:42
And I'll really spend time on those like do sound and like
37:46
really change stuff up. And I love that too.
37:49
And I, but I, I, that is probably 5% of our stuff.
37:55
A lot of it's very like just off the hip, off the rails, kind of
38:00
chaotic, you know. And I think for, like, for, for
38:05
us, when we linked up for the first time in Oklahoma, it was
38:09
your first time ever hanging with us and vice versa.
38:13
But I think for you, it was probably kind of like a
38:15
different style of filming than you had probably come before.
38:19
Yeah. Probably like this is like,
38:20
feels like we're not really filming, you know, like.
38:22
No, but it's the camcorder that makes things so seamless,
38:26
accessible and when you don't have to worry about like I mean
38:30
obviously I like what I do with my R5 and stuff like that, but
38:33
I'm considering just grabbing one of these cuz it's like.
38:36
It's good to have. Both.
38:37
I think so too, yeah. I think for the cinematic shots
38:40
and stuff like that, having the really nice lens and stuff,
38:43
yeah, you get depth of field, yeah, SLR to get bangers off of
38:47
it. But where it comes down to
38:50
there's a lot of stuff that dude even just like running the focus
38:55
on my camera sometimes. Is hard.
38:57
Is. A job in itself to order to make
38:59
sure that you're not only framing the animal perfect, but
39:02
you're in focus between all this trash that you have between all
39:06
the lens. Not to mention so many settings
39:08
you're trying to go through and then 100%.
39:10
So I do have a DSLR and a lens that I really like on it a lot.
39:16
But and I have I used to have two of these one just broke.
39:19
So I need to get another camcorder.
39:20
So I'm going to get I'm going to get a different type of
39:22
camcorder, I think, or maybe the same one.
39:24
I'm going to look at options and get another camcorder.
39:27
But what I really realized was we were on the deer hunt and
39:31
Brianna was hunting with my dad and I was hunting with somebody
39:35
else. And I said in my other camera
39:38
was already spoke my other camper after if I can move 10
39:41
years and rainstorms and dust, but drop it in life.
39:44
Oh, it's made. Oh dude, yeah, it's a banger
39:47
right, But I I was like, you take that at all.
39:50
I'll take the DSLR, bro. I'm trying to film like hunting
39:53
and over the shoulder stuff and on the animal with the DSLR.
39:57
I'm like, this is trash, bro. I'm like so many people probably
40:00
miss banger shots because this camera's too complex for.
40:05
You need to be able to zoom in quick on the animal type and at
40:10
the camcorder it's so quick and easy.
40:13
So for me, the way I always look at it and some guys can pull it
40:17
off well filming with the DSLR for that.
40:19
But what I prefer is for outdoor stuff, so like tax hunt, stuff
40:25
like that. I think camcorders like
40:27
undefeated but for indoor stuff or reviews or like a bow build,
40:34
sure. Stuff that's more intricate.
40:35
Yeah, where you want to see exactly what you know.
40:38
That's where I love doing it. And things like that.
40:40
Yeah, that's where I love the DSLR.
40:42
And then also of course for photos for sponsors and stuff,
40:45
that for the DSLR is key. So I think like as a creator,
40:48
it's great to have both things. So for sure, you know, and I
40:52
think like for a lot of what you do too, like filming out of
40:55
trees and and now that you're like, I think for your outcome,
40:58
dude, a camera like this would be perfect.
41:00
I know. And I think for tree stands
41:01
actually because it's so light in the zoom.
41:05
Dude. Oh yeah.
41:06
So and it does really good in in low light situation area like
41:09
where you know that was a struggle for me getting into
41:12
DSLRs right away. It was like, OK, so your F stop
41:16
your aperture is basically control how much light you get
41:20
into the camera. Well, the 2.8 is kind of like
41:24
the standard any anymore like if you're shooting anything hunting
41:28
related where you're going to be dusk and dawn, like 2.8 is going
41:32
to allow allow enough light in there while a 2.8mm you know,
41:38
300mm. So you can like reach out there
41:40
and let's say it is 70 yards. Like I mean you're talking
41:43
about, you know, a 300 millimeter 2.8 is going to be an
41:45
8000 mile. So heavy.
41:48
Absolutely, dude. I got a 24 to one O 5 that I
41:52
run. That's 2.8 and it allows me to
41:55
get the shots that I need. But it is one of those things
41:57
that, I mean, it's heavy, it's on my shoulders all the time,
42:01
and there's plenty of time where I'd rather just be, you know,
42:05
I'll even do it with my cell phone sometimes instead.
42:07
Phones are. Good.
42:08
Yeah, instead of my camera just doing the blocked stuff of
42:11
trying to fill in, OK, this is what we're doing on the front,
42:14
this is the spot we're in updating things and then doing
42:17
the panoramic shots with. The transition clear, Yeah, I
42:21
mean, I think durability is another big key point too.
42:25
I think about it like this a lot.
42:28
So for hunting, a lot of times, I mean, obviously you're
42:31
outdoors and outdoors is rough on stuff, dust, dirt, water, you
42:36
name it. And like, if by chance I was on
42:40
a hunt and broke one of these cameras, it's $1000, right?
42:44
You know what I mean? It's like, it's not sucks.
42:46
It sucks, right? But it's $1000.
42:48
Yeah. But if you smoke a lens and your
42:50
body a whole deal, like, dude, you could be really cooked.
42:53
Oh, absolutely. So I like that too.
42:55
And then the durability. I mean, I literally in Hawaii
42:58
dropped this camera off a Cliff and it was fine.
43:01
The mic broke, but the camera was fine.
43:04
So I like the durability and. And but yeah, and I think I
43:10
think that was a good part. I think we're going to wrap it.
43:12
I think we're going to wrap it and get on the road, dude.
43:14
But I appreciate you. Your story's epic.
43:17
And if you guys haven't, check out Ethan.
43:19
His content's amazing and he getting in the game more and
43:22
more. So definitely go check him out
43:24
and. I've got a YouTube channel
43:27
that's I put all the like wildlife stuff on.
43:31
I'm posting on. It's called the Wildlife Hard
43:34
Drive. And it's just basically just
43:37
wildlife stuff. You're never gonna see me
43:38
hunting on that Channel, the channel that I'm gonna start
43:42
doing more on that. I've already got a post, I've
43:45
got some stuff posted to it, but I'm gonna start posting my
43:47
house, It's core man media. And then my Instagram's just
43:50
Ethan. Under score Burrell.
43:52
There you go, check them out. Like I said, phenomenal stuff.
43:56
He's gonna post that clip, that clip.
43:58
I bet they took my target. They did.
44:01
They did. So he'll post that.
44:03
Hilarious. The guy's got timing of a
44:06
comedian. But anyway, we're going to get
44:08
back on the road. We're going to try to get four
44:10
more hours under our belt. But yes, subscribe to the show.
44:14
5 stars Apple, Spotify and absolutely we appreciate you
44:17
dude. I appreciate you guys coming out
44:19
here. I appreciate you guys taking
44:21
your time and give me one of these.
44:23
Yeah, there we. Go.
44:25
There we go. Thank you, guys.
44:27
All right, thanks guys. We'll see you soon.