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BONUS: How Much Should You Care About High School Quarterback Recruiting? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 2: We've now rolled into February, and look, we're still trying
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  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna not eat that pizza tonight. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: do this show. We're gonna have some fun. Appreciate you
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  Speaker 2: guys as always. We've got a couple of discussions to
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  Speaker 2: have today, some rankings discussions, some quarterback talk. Matt Patricia.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Patricia signs the extension and that, of course is
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  Speaker 2: fantastic news. We don't lose them to the NFL. Year
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  Speaker 2: number two. Ross Byork says in a statement that he
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  Speaker 2: was always committed to staying here. He's got an interesting
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  Speaker 2: way of showing that. I believe he loves Columbus. I
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  Speaker 2: believe he loves Ohio State. I also believe he's an
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  Speaker 2: NFL guy and really wants to get that next job
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  Speaker 2: as a DC or something similar in the NFL. But
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  Speaker 2: we really don't know because we haven't heard from him
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  Speaker 2: at all. We haven't heard from any of these coaches
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  Speaker 2: in a press conference setting since Ryan Day's press conference
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  Speaker 2: right at the end of the Miami game with the
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  Speaker 2: national media. The local media hasn't been able to ask
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  Speaker 2: anything about the end of the season, and it's been
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  Speaker 2: a while now. It's been a while. Matt Patricia did
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  Speaker 2: make that post that some people interpret as a potential goodbye.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was on the show when somebody somebody
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  Speaker 2: said that to me on Twitter and we were talking
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  Speaker 2: about him potentially leaving, and I was like, what did
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  Speaker 2: you guys see because I hadn't seen it yet. I
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  Speaker 2: was live and they said it to me, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: reading this thing and I'm like, oh, yeah, this doesn't
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  Speaker 2: sound good. I don't know if you read it. But
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  Speaker 2: it could have just been like, hey, great season, pat
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  Speaker 2: on the back, or it could have been, man, this
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  Speaker 2: was a great year. It was a great run. But
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  Speaker 2: I do think maybe some of our feelings with Chip
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  Speaker 2: leaving after year one were tied up into those emotions
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  Speaker 2: as well. But we got him back and that is
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  Speaker 2: obviously fantastic, and that extension was sitting there for a while,
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  Speaker 2: and that's fine. He's an NFL dude, and this is
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  Speaker 2: probably going to be his last year and that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Two years, that's great. The one year thing you gotta avoid,
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  Speaker 2: got to avoid that turnover every single year. I think
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  Speaker 2: he's a great coach. He loves coaching. We heard all
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  Speaker 2: the guys talk about last year just how much he
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed his time with them. I think he's going to
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  Speaker 2: really enjoy these guys that are coming in, These veteran
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  Speaker 2: guys on the defense who are kind of coming in.
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  Speaker 2: They've played a ton of football, they know what they're doing,
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  Speaker 2: but they need to get that final polish before they
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  Speaker 2: go off to the NFL. They need that final polish
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  Speaker 2: from a guy who knows what to teach them, who
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  Speaker 2: can see their faults and what they need to work
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  Speaker 2: on instantly. Guys like the Christianelli Aegros or Terry Moores
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  Speaker 2: or you dudes like quay Rus saw guys like this, like,
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  Speaker 2: what do we need to do to utilize you the best,
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  Speaker 2: to get you into the league, to get you drafted high.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's going to really enjoy himself doing that.
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  Speaker 2: So fantastic news that we got him back. But let's
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  Speaker 2: talk some quarterbacks. A veteran quarterback, right, we have a
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  Speaker 2: veteran quarterback this year. That's fantastic. You can have one
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  Speaker 2: every year now. Buckeye quarterback commit for the class of
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. Brady Edmonds makes it to the Elite
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  Speaker 2: eleven finals, which is excellent. Los Angeles Regional winner and
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  Speaker 2: he did get that invite after that first regional was
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  Speaker 2: held in La A lot of people talking about the
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  Speaker 2: first invite as though that was like, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: pick you first. That's not how that went. It's just
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  Speaker 2: the first regional was held in LA and then they
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  Speaker 2: go around the country and the winners of all those
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  Speaker 2: regionals make it to the finals. I'm pretty anxious to
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  Speaker 2: see how he does in that regional. As opinions on
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  Speaker 2: Brady have changed, they're all over the place now. Personally,
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  Speaker 2: I don't quite understand it. I really don't. And we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about a guy who's basically done nothing but gotten better.
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  Speaker 2: He's six foot five, he's now two twenty five, as
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  Speaker 2: his body is matured into more of a manly body now,
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  Speaker 2: like he's actually got some shoulders and just some girth
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  Speaker 2: around him. And he was a good physical runner before that,
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  Speaker 2: always out a howitzer for an arm I just don't
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  Speaker 2: know how you could look at Brady and watch him
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  Speaker 2: play and look at that size and the production over
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  Speaker 2: three thousand yards in consecutive years. He also doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: a great team. His team moved up into the next
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  Speaker 2: the next division this year, and they weren't able to
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  Speaker 2: advance out of the first year of the playoffs. So
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about a guy who has stayed loyal to
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  Speaker 2: his team when he could have gone to an IMG.
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  Speaker 2: Pardon me, he could have gone to a modern day, right,
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  Speaker 2: He could have gone and played with some real D
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  Speaker 2: one receivers and probably elevated a lot of this, But
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  Speaker 2: he didn't because he knows where he's going to go.
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  Speaker 2: He loves Ohio State. He's Ohio by blood, and he
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  Speaker 2: was always going to commit to Ohio State if he
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  Speaker 2: got that offer, and he did it in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: four after the Michigan game when people were talking about
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  Speaker 2: firing Ryan Day. So he basically checks every box, the
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  Speaker 2: character box, the fact that he stayed with his teammates
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  Speaker 2: and didn't go to a modern day or an IMB.
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  Speaker 2: And Brady Edmunds a year ago, not even a year ago,
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  Speaker 2: was two four sevens number ten overall, player, number ten overall,
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  Speaker 2: and today, fresh off earning his trip to the Elite eleven,
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  Speaker 2: he is there two four sevens, number fourteen, quarterback, two
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  Speaker 2: thirty two overall. I don't understand the drop over there,
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  Speaker 2: And now Rivals has just made their most recent update
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  Speaker 2: public today and he has fallen to number two thirty
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  Speaker 2: eight overall. There their number seventeen ranked quarterback, and I
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  Speaker 2: just don't get it. We're not talking about some stiff
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  Speaker 2: who just stands in the pocket. And you know sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you can attribute drops to that with quarterbacks. All Right,
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  Speaker 2: he's good, but he can only do this. That's not Brady.
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  Speaker 2: Brady's got a seventy yard touchdown run on his film.
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  Speaker 2: You can't run a You can't do a seventy yard
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  Speaker 2: touchdown run if you are not a good athlete. That's
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  Speaker 2: just that's a fact. He's incredibly smart, and I have
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  Speaker 2: no doubt that he's going to be able to pick
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  Speaker 2: up the processing side of it fast once he gets
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  Speaker 2: to college. And now a production machine is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a four year starter at Huntington Beach by the
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  Speaker 2: time he leaves. These guys that do the rankings, and
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  Speaker 2: some people will say, well, you know, it's this or
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  Speaker 2: that or favoritism, and there can be some of that,
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  Speaker 2: but when we get to the final they really pride
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  Speaker 2: themselves in that grade they grade themselves. After four years
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  Speaker 2: after those guys cycle into the NFL and they're competing
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  Speaker 2: with each other, and the grade is right. If I've
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  Speaker 2: got you as a five star, you're a first rounder.
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  Speaker 2: And if I can accurately identify you as such. That's
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  Speaker 2: a huge markup for me that maybe the other guy
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  Speaker 2: didn't get, and they take it very very seriously. I
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  Speaker 2: think that when we're looking at a guy like Brady
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  Speaker 2: going through Ryan Day's system at Ohio State, the chances
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  Speaker 2: of him, should he end up the Ohio State starter,
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  Speaker 2: being a top quarterback in whatever NFL draft class he
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  Speaker 2: comes out of, are very very good and I can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see him at the EE eleven.
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  Speaker 2: But it is interesting when we look at what Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State's doing at quarterback with another Buckeye target in Champ
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  Speaker 2: Monds in the same class. Champ the number eighteen composite quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: but he was the number one quarterback in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: eight before he reclassified. Now he's even young for he
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  Speaker 2: was young for that class and now he's reclassified. So
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  Speaker 2: he's very young, really big for his age already six
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  Speaker 2: two and a half two hundred and twenty pounds, can
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  Speaker 2: make all the high level throws, very very good athlete
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  Speaker 2: out of euro Beach, Florida. And it's interesting. It makes
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  Speaker 2: you wonder, right like, what is the plan here? When
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  Speaker 2: we've been talking for a couple of years. Now you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna go after that high level quarterback. Then the following
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  Speaker 2: year you're gonna take the guy that you really liked,
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  Speaker 2: that's maybe a little lower rated, who's gonna come in
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  Speaker 2: and compete his butt off and maybe he turns into something,
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  Speaker 2: but he's not gonna cost you a ton of money.
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  Speaker 2: You're not gonna have a ton of money sitting on
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  Speaker 2: the bench. That would be Luke Fahie this year, a
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  Speaker 2: three star guy who you think, if he had a
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  Speaker 2: couple more inches, would be a five star because you're
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  Speaker 2: really believe in his arm, his production, his makeup, his competitiveness.
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  Speaker 2: But he doesn't have those couple extra inches, So he's
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  Speaker 2: a three star and you're gonna say, I love that guy,
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  Speaker 2: let's get him in here. And that's been the plan.
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  Speaker 2: Really high level guy. Then you dip down to a
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  Speaker 2: dude like that. And now this year in twenty twenty seven,
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  Speaker 2: you got Brady already in there, and you got Brady early,
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  Speaker 2: you got him early on, and now you're going after
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  Speaker 2: Champ as well, and not just Champ. So is that
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  Speaker 2: telling us something along with these rankings. It could be
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I really don't know, but I believe
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  Speaker 2: that this dude is gonna be an absolute stud. Now,
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  Speaker 2: he's not the only one that took a dive here
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  Speaker 2: in these most recent rankings here for the Buckeyes. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, you talk about starting quarterbacks, and you can
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  Speaker 2: now and a lot of teams are going in doing this,
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  Speaker 2: You can now make it so that you don't really
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  Speaker 2: ever start a first year quarterback anymore. We're seeing a
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  Speaker 2: lot of competitors do it. Unless you've got a transcendent guy,
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to start a first year guy. Because
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  Speaker 2: if you're starting a first year guy, then you're kind
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  Speaker 2: of telling yourself, we're not really going for the national
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  Speaker 2: championship this year, because even if he's excellent, even if
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  Speaker 2: he's a guy who ten games through the season is
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  Speaker 2: the most accurate quarterback in college football history, you might
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  Speaker 2: not win the national championship. You know, we look at
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  Speaker 2: the last two national championships, all four quarterbacks have been
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  Speaker 2: transfers who started somewhere else. And it makes you wonder,
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  Speaker 2: if you know, we're not going to see more and
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  Speaker 2: more teams start to go this route where it's go
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  Speaker 2: get your first year starting out of the way somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Then we're going to bring you into the transfer portal.
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  Speaker 2: And when we talk about quarterback recruiting, it's not something
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  Speaker 2: that I have been following as much as other positions.
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  Speaker 2: And I've always got some positions I follow more. Quarterback
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  Speaker 2: used to be one, or I'd watch a ton of
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  Speaker 2: film on and it's less and less because as we
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  Speaker 2: just look over the last few years. If we look
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  Speaker 2: back to December of twenty twenty three, right, so two
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  Speaker 2: years and a couple of months ago, two years and
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  Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. In that time period from
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  Speaker 2: then to now, we have watched Kyle McCord, Devin Brown,
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  Speaker 2: ar Noland, all big time recruits walk out the door,
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  Speaker 2: and Lincoln Keen Holes in addition to them. In just
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  Speaker 2: a little over two years. Four quarterbacks. You spend a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time, and if you follow recruiting like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of us do and invest in the you know
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  Speaker 2: everything that goes with that, for those guys to turn
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  Speaker 2: around and leave, and it makes you feel like, man,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I really want to put a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time and effort into following quarterback recruiting anymore,
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  Speaker 2: because it seems like you might just end up with
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  Speaker 2: a transfer starting in the end anyway. And when we
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  Speaker 2: look at freshman last year, the ones that left after
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, eight of them. I had a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people saying to me in the comments and stuff like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even going to follow recruiting anymore. I don't
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  Speaker 2: even want to follow it. And I get that to
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  Speaker 2: a certain extent, but I think it's more a positional thing.
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  Speaker 2: I do think there's some positions that, you know, quarterback
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  Speaker 2: might be one of them. It's not really worth digging
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  Speaker 2: in real deep because we're looking at so many of
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  Speaker 2: these transfer quarterbacks, Like I think the class of twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five or twenty twenty four, eight out of the
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  Speaker 2: top ten have now transferred. And that's just nuts that
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  Speaker 2: Julian Sayin's class, the guys going into year three, eight
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  Speaker 2: out of the top ten have already transferred. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: But when we look at Ryan Day and we look
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  Speaker 2: at Billy Fessler looking into the future here when it's
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  Speaker 2: taviy In Saint Clair's turn to step it up or
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  Speaker 2: Brady Edmonds turn to step it up, I definitely don't
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  Speaker 2: want them. Let's say five years ago, I would have
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  Speaker 2: absolutely said, no way do I want to transfer. I
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  Speaker 2: want that guy to come in take his lumps. And
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  Speaker 2: now that we've seen more evidence, right, we've seen that
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  Speaker 2: the transfer absolutely works. It certainly has been very successful.
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  Speaker 2: Now I think I would lean towards a transfer unless
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  Speaker 2: they're one hundred percent convinced that that guy is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be able to handle it and not inhibit your chances
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  Speaker 2: to win a national championship right now, where before I'd
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  Speaker 2: be like, you know, it's fine, let him take his lumps.
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  Speaker 2: The following year you'll be ready to win the national
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  Speaker 2: championship with him. You just don't need to anymore. You
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  Speaker 2: can bring in somebody that can do it right now.
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  Speaker 2: But I also wonder, might you be better off when
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  Speaker 2: we talk about taking the luke Fahi year right that
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  Speaker 2: kind of guy in your off year. Might you be
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  Speaker 2: better off taking those guys every single year and relying
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  Speaker 2: on a transfer portal as a star, And every once
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  Speaker 2: in a while one of those guys jumps up and
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  Speaker 2: ends up being a Baker Mayfield type of guy who
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  Speaker 2: just owns the room and has all the goods, and
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  Speaker 2: you know that's gonna be your guy. Maybe you hit
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  Speaker 2: on one of those guys one out every four years,
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  Speaker 2: and the rest of the time, you're bringing in transfer
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  Speaker 2: portal guys who are maybe hopefully two years of eligibility,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes just one, and maybe that's not a better route,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: and you have all that quarterback money freed up. The
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Buckeys have done a great job getting away with not
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: having to pay those huge freshman quarterback deals. So far
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  Speaker 2: they've been lucky. Got lucky with TSC, got lucky with Brady.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens the next time around you. That
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  Speaker 2: remains to be seen as those two guys we can
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  Speaker 2: both kind of count as hometown dudes. Certainly weren't getting
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood kind of money, weren't getting a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the Faison branding kind of money at Tennessee. But it
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  Speaker 2: is interesting. I was just thinking, might you potentially be
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  Speaker 2: better off taking the Luke fahees, finding those guys that
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  Speaker 2: you really love but aren't perfect, and not paying him much.
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  Speaker 2: Having those guys all up your roster. Some of them
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  Speaker 2: will hit, some won't, and that's fine. And you're kind
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  Speaker 2: of relying on the portal market because that Ohio state,
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  Speaker 2: you've really got a great position to be able to
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  Speaker 2: bring in top tier portal guys. It's certainly a great
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  Speaker 2: destination for a quarterback. The track records there, the draft
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  Speaker 2: picks that quarterback are there. The system is there to
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  Speaker 2: make you better. Something I was thinking about. But when
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  Speaker 2: we talk about the rankings, some rivals here as we
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  Speaker 2: dig in a little bit, and a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: are mad at rivals today, but remember rivals gave us
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  Speaker 2: five five stars to the end the recruiting class last year.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the guy that went up and is
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  Speaker 2: now a five star if the rankings were to end today,
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  Speaker 2: up into the top thirty two, number thirty one Ohio
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  Speaker 2: offensive lineman Kellen Weimer, who I absolutely love. This guy
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  Speaker 2: at six' five two seventy really moves like a tight.
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  Speaker 2: END i, mean incredibly. Athletic he's got, some you, know
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  Speaker 2: some grown up mass he's got to put, on but
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: he's lean right, now and the buck guys will get
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  Speaker 2: him right with some more lean. Mass he is rated
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  Speaker 2: as an interior offensive. Lineman i'm not so SURE i
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  Speaker 2: agree with. THAT i, mean he still may grow another,
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  Speaker 2: inch but after Watching Austin sirabeld and watching how they
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: weren't afraid to put him out, there and all of a,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: sudden that's a top tier offensive. Tackle a lot of
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: these guys they've recruited are all six to five across the.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Board and whether or not it SAYS iol next to
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: him OR, OT i don't think it matters one. Bit
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: AND i Think wimer could definitely be a stud offensive
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: tackle and not the only offensive lineman that's being well
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: regarded out of the three that The Tyler bowen has
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: six foot five inch two sixty Five brody McNeil out
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Of virginia stays inside the top two hundred At. Rivals
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: he's the number ten interior offensive, lineman which gives you
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: two of the top ten, interiors which is. Excellent don't
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: got a tackle, yet a tackle in the rankings per.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Se and you also got out Of Saint clairsville the
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: number twenty, eight and that is a big hoss out
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Of Saint. Clairsville what the hell's his? Name Mason Wilt
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and that kid is a just a beefeeder. Man he's
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: a meathead six four and a half two ninety, five
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: just a hammerhead type of kid out Of ohio that
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: you just love to. Have he's a true guard THAT
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: i know for. Sure BUT i really like those three
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: That bowen's got so, far and of course we'll go
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: down and talk about the Offensive. Lemon we're going to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: talk about some wide receivers, today some running backs. TODAY Dj.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: JACOBS Dj jacobs is the number twelve player in the
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: country Per rivals now and he is still twenty four
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to seven's number one, one so number one, edge number
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: one overall and that's. Fantastic rivals just dropped him after
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: he just went to The Polynesian bowl and just destroyed
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: everybody all week at The Polynesian, bowl which is. Interesting
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: don't quite get that one Of Matt gerary's top, Targets Eli,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: johnson who committed The buckeyes six foot, three one hundred
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: ninety five pounds safety super, athlete drops outside the top
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: one hundred to one thirty. Nine he's now the number
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: ten safety and that reminds me Of Blaine bradford's drop
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: that he had the, end which they're going to regret for,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: sure but that dude is a is an absolute, dog
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: So i'm really surprised by that. One and Then James thornidis's,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Guy Quentin, seipher who we were so oh ecstatic to.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Get guys an unbelievable linebacker out Of North. Carolina they
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: now have him as the number twenty four linebacker in the.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Country dropped him outside of the top ten down to twenty,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: four which is. Insane you did get a huge bump
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: for a couple of targets THAT i absolutely. Love so
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Aj randall is a guy The buck guys have been in.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: On he was a three star last week and that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: was just. Absurd got some eyes on. Him he's now
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the number four linebacker in the country and there IS
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: i talked to him over the, weekend a lot of
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: good stuff to say About Ohio. State really really Likes James,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: lorinidis loves the field Of Ohio, state and that's now
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: the number four linebacker in the. Country he's, long he's,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: rangy he plays. Quarterback his mom thinks he's a five star.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i think he's a five star, linebacker and he
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: might end up a five star. Linebacker but imagine that
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: a linebacker who also plays quarterback and is a really
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: good quarterback as. Well THAT'S Aj. Randall will cut up
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: some of his films and watch some of that in
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the coming. Weeks but, last but certainly not, Least Jamiir.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Brown Jamiir brown obviously has been at the top of
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the board for the entire, cycle SINCE i don't, know
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: since he first was was a. Freshman he's now five
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: eleven one ninety, two so he's not the biggest. Dude
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: and internally at two four, seven he's their number two wide.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Receiver he was like that At. Rivals, Well rivals now
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: drops him down to the number seven wide. Receiver the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: number forty eight player in the country outside of five star.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Range had me really. Salty they Got Eastern royal is
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the number one wide. Receiver he's committed To. Texas Eastern
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: royal is five eleven one ninety. Two so we're talking
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: about a guy the same size As Jamiir. Brown he's
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: also a. Burner they got a similar, game but that
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: kid's number, one The Texas longhorn number, one and the
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: guy with the same kind of athletic Profile Jamir brown
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: committed to The. Buckeyes he's number. Seven i'm not so
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: SURE i buy it. NOW i got my wide, receiver
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: big board out and ready to. Roll, obviously you got
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: a guy engineer that is a total. Stud where do
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: you play? Him where's he going to be most effective
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: in the? Slot could he potentially PLAY? Z i think
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: he could and then you got kind of your top two.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Targets we would, think, right we don't Know cortes anked
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: in a ton, yet but number One monshne sales out
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Of indiana at six foot, Five we're talking about a
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: guy that's just an absolute a. Monster he's just a huge,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: monster and he's totally electric coming From, indiana but he
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: is originally from the state Of, alabama And indiana And
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: alabama both really big on his. Board he's not just
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: a wide. Receiver he's a football. Player as you saw
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: in that block right, there and you can see the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: size with the guy covering him right. There he's a
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: legit six foot. Five he's got. Moves he even plays
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: defense pretty. VICIOUSLY i, mean the dude's a football. Player
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: throw it up and he'll go get. It and to,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: me this is the number. One look at, This look
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: at this hit he's about to lay on this, dude
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: that's the number one wide receiver in the. Country so
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you know right, there he's a football. Player and of
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: course he's going to be number one of the buck
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: guys Board bucks down in his top four AND i
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: think that there is money in the budget to get
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: another top tier wide. Receiver in here and he would be, great,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Right but then you've also Got eric, McFarland who you
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: got a great relationship with. Now eric McFarland down AT
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: img is just five foot. Eight he's certainly a, slot
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: but he's also maybe the most electric football player in
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the entire, country and he's been that guy for several.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Years he also. Reclassifies we're talking about a kid who's
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: really young out here playing with the best of the
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: best against the best you, KNOW. Img he's with the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Traveling circus team AT, img the one that goes around
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: the country and plays the best of the best in
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the whole. Country and, uh the guy just smokes. Everybody
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: he smokes. Everybody he's, small there's no doubt about. It
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: but when you've got the kind of the kind of
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: moves and the kind of quicks that he's, got you've
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: got to be so good to be five seven and
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a half five eight and a half and be rated
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: as high as this guy. Is and it's plays like.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: That he beats everybody's. Angles he makes him look. Silly
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: just an absolute dog, too loves Football and if The
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: buck guys were able to add a guy like, that
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: that would be great and then you also look At.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Legend how many of those type dudes do you? Want
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Because legend could, have you, know eventually moved to your
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: slot receiver as. Well but McFarlane as of now would
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: be much better suited for it if you could Keep
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: legend in the running back. Room so those are the
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: two maybe top, guys maybe. Not we'll pull up my
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: board here as we look at these are all guys
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: that The buckeyes have offered that they're in. On and
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: you see at the top there With mansha And sales
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: And eric. McFarlane the green number is their rival's composite.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Number Dakota gerant out Of michigan is a guy that's
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Visited Ohio state five times with, heartline hasn't yet Since
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: cortez took Since hankton took, over he probably. Will and
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: he's a guy that at one point was either it
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Was michigan Or Ohio. State well now it looks Like
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: oregon has entered the fray and entered the fray in
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: a big. Way and he is just. Ridiculous that guy
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: is so. Good but there's plenty of options. Here as
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Key Shawn bowman out Of, Tennessee Quintin burrell out Of,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Illinois Khalil taylor out Of. Pennsylvania three guys that are
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: just kind of that next tier down that The buckeyes
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: are in on as, well and then the following, tier
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: which some people would have a couple of those guys
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: up in the next. TIER i. Don't xavier sab is
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: one of the guys that some people would have in
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: that in the very top. Tier as you can, see
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: he's he's Now rivals number five wide. RECEIVER i disagree with.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: That but a GUY i really love Is Blake wong
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: out Of. California guy's an absolute production machine Who heartline
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: offered out of camp At Ohio. State and he told
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: me over the weekend That Cortez hankton gets ahold of
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: him twice a, week so he's still clearly a. Priority
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: and that makes me really excited BECAUSE i really Like Blake.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Wang this is a guy who is fast enough to
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: beat you over the, top but he's got all the.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Polish he reminds me of An Anthony gonzalez. Man he's
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: just always making tough. Catches doesn't look like a guy
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: that would do, it but he sure. Does so really
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: excited about the about where this wide receiver class is
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: going to go BECAUSE i think the guys that they
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: got on the, board there's a lot of guys that are.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Gettable and if you can pare another one of those
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: top tiers dudes With, jamir those ancillary guys that fill in,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: next they're all, studs, man they're all. Studs we could
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: have two back to back ridiculous wide receiver, rooms which
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter much if you only want to throw it
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to the tight. Ends, anyway talking About David Gabriel, GEORGE
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: i was this. Morning David Gabriel george, obviously as everyone,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: knows is the number one guy on the board for
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: The buckeyes when we talk about running, back and for good.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Reason he's an absolute. Monster at six foot two hundred
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and five, pounds looks like he could carry about two
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five pounds when he wants. To he's
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: got it, all, Right he's got it. All this is
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: a game against, mcali his, rival and he goes into
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: that game this year as a junior and score seven
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: touchdowns again against, him rushes for four hundred and thirty six.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Yards he's got all the. Moves the legs are always.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Churning he'll run you, Over he'll run around. You he's
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: a special, dude, man and he's a special special. Back
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: and he's been The buckeyes' number one back in the
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: last couple of. Cycles he was you, know they wanted
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: him Over Savian hider last, year but they did go
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: After Saviane hyder pretty hard Against tennessee until it was
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: time to pay the. PIPER i guess the big question
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: is are they going to pay the piper to Get
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: David Gabriel. George David Gabriel George, Tennessee oregon and Now
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: auburn has Entered The fray kid out of The Baylor
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: school In tennessee From, Quebec, France, Quebec canada Speaks. French
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and we got one of those guys on our. Team
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: we got one on our team In Max, LeBlanc who's
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a guy who is From, canada went to The Baylor
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: school and now on The Ohio state roster in his third.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: YEAR i think that helps The buckeyes With David Gabriel.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: George AND i think it's really awesome That Gabriel george
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: wants to play For Carlos lachlan Because Carlos laughlin is
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: a tough guy to play for military, type, dude military.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Style and if you're a young guy that wants to
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: play for a guy Like, lachlan that kind of says
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: a lot about your character to, me the type of
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: guy with the size and the you know, everything you
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: need to walk in and play. Immediately At Ohio, state
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't need, to as he would walk In bo
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: And isaiah would be in their junior, year but he
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: definitely would, play and they run a gap scheme and
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: they give him carte blanche to do whatever he. Wants great,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: vision always makes the right. Decisions this is a big question,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: here AND i really want to know are The buck
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: guys going to pay money for that first round running
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: back because we've seen certain positions they've paid it for
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: certain ones they, Haven't AND i don't think they're going
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to at tight end For Brock. WILLIAMS i think they're
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: kind of bowing out of that race now That texas
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: come with a big. Offer it was Just Ohio state In.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Texas now here Comes. Texas they put a fat offer And,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: okay that's not going to go our. Way is running
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: back a position that we're going to see them put
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: that kind of money in because we look in THE
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: nfl and how people for years in THE nfl have
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: been devaluing the running back position due to length of
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: career due to. Injuries might it not be the exact
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: opposite in college football where we don't need to worry
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: about the length of the. Career we do know that
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: every Great Ohio state team has had a great running,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: back that's for. Sure and these are guys who come
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: in in year one as true, freshman one of the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: few positions that can come in and contribute so you
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: don't have money sitting on the. Bench we look at
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: just last year With Bo, jackson With Isaiah, west and
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: then look out over At oregon at two Guys Ohio
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: state was recruiting And Deer hill And Jordan. Davison all
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: four of those freshmen backs had great freshman. Years it
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: seems like we can hit more and more on these. Guys.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Guys pay, him get the best, guy particularly if you
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: love him like they love this guy and bring him.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: In but if they. Don't if they, DON'T i think
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: we're gonna see a lot of very very Irritated Ohio
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: state fans because these guys been talked about for, years
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: right for years by the time we get to that
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: point and people are going to be really, angry and
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: let's look at the running back. BOARD i think the
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: good news here is man there is this is a
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: great running back. Class it's a great running back. Class
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: there are so many guys on this board that are,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: high high level. Backs, Obviously Landon Williams callus you probably
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: heard of out Of. Texas that Is Jaquiz rogers And
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: James rogers' little, cousin and he runs just like. Them
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: he's an absolute, dynamo shorter guy, obviously just like, them
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: same kind of running, style and just basically A texas.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Legend at this, Point buckeyes are trying to get him
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: up for a spring. Visit that's probably a long. Shot
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: then you Got Noah roberts out Of, arizona who is
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: now the number eleven back in the. Country but this
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: is a guy THAT i think IS i think he's
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: quite a bit better than, that to be quite, HONEST
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: i think that he's in my top. Four. NOW i
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: don't Have Khman spell up there anymore because he's now
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: committed To, georgia AND i don't think that's. Changing but
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of diamonds in the rough as, well
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: even a guy Like Sarad, baker Who Sarad baker is
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: a kid that is a three star running back right, now,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Dad and he's a coach For. Carol SO i was
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: talking to him About Sarad, baker who The buckeys have,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: offered BECAUSE i know that they Played Sarad. Baker and
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: he starts telling me about this, kid And i'm, like, really,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: now this is a guy who's not even barely. Ranked
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: he's ranked by one. Service he's a three. Star SO
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: i start looking into this. Guy this kid might have
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: just had one of the top ten best on the.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Season the kid rushed for thirty four hundred yards receptions
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty yards, receiving and he passed for
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: five hundred yards on top of. It have you ever
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: heard of a line like? That ran for thirty four,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: hundred passed for five, hundred two hundred and fifty receiving,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: yards and something ridiculous like forty six touchdowns in one.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Year all four playoff, games the kid rushed for over
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: three hundred yards three. Hundred he's, amazing and he's not,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: small five to eleven hundred and ninety five pounds a three.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Star now that's not going to. Last The buckeyes have
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: started their. Relationship they're in on, him so The bucks
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: in on. Him bucks in on a lot of these.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Dudes And Elijah kimball that's a kid out Of. Buffalo
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: this guy running style and everything about him reminds me
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: so much Of treyvion obviously is not as fast As,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: trebon but can hit the home. Run if he was
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: as fast As, travion he'd be number. One Like, trevion
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: can hit the home, run got all the, wiggle and
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: a kid out Of buffalo who is slightly underrated THAT
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: i also really. Love AND i think that you know
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: They're my point is, here in a class like, this
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: if you don't GET, dgg you're gonna get a. Stud
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: you're gonna absolutely get a stud because they're deep this.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Year AND i think that will probably ease the pain
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: if they don't want to spend big time On David
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Gabriel george because he will cost a lot of. Money
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: because what we know About tennessee is these guys when
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: they want, somebody they come. Hard we remember how it
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: went with Big Homie David Sanders, Junior so fighting Off
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: tennessee FOR. Dgg but the options are are plentiful at
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: running back AND i could keep. GOING i really like
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the way they've mixed it. Up there's a lot of
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: different body sizes. Here with the guys on the top
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: of their, Board Braydon tyson is a two hundred and
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: thirty five. POUNDER i would really like to have a
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty five pounder coming in as a.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Freshman i'd really like to have A Carlos hide type
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: of running. Back that would be a lot of. Fun
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: AND i think that regardless of what happens, here we're
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: gonna be pretty loaded in the running back room For
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Carlos lachlan next. Year, now earlier TODAY i was ON
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: i was on with With bill And doug on The
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: bill And Doug show And Dave biddle And doug always
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: comes up with such interesting questions to, Ask so he
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: was running down some questions AND i wanted to share
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: some of the questions that he put together BECAUSE i
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: think some of them are really kind of, interesting, interesting interesting.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Fodder the first, one going into the, combine who are
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: you most interested to? Watch out of the at the?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Combine Which buckeye are you most interested to? Watch if
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: you can only pick, one and obviously my mind immediately
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: goes to The. Freakazoi you go To, arvel you go To,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: sonny and you go To. Caleb, HONESTLY i really him
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: very interested to see What caleb tests. At but you
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: go to all those guys and Then i'm, like all, right,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: well none of those guys DO i think can really
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: help their stock or hurt their draft. Stock who's somebody
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: that could really help themselves in the? Draft AND i
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: came up With Kayden. CURRY i have no idea Where
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Kayden curry is going to get, drafted no, Idea but
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: WHEN i look At Caden curry's body of, WORK i
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: just got a feeling that If i'm A gm And
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: i'm looking at this guy's career And i'm looking at
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: how people doubted him coming into this year and then
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: the season that he put. Up he's a little, undersized
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: he can get swallowed up by some bigger. Guys at,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: times he can kind of, disappear but when he gets it,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: going he's pretty, special pretty, versatile and if he can test,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: GOOD i think he can make a big jump on
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of teams. Boards so that is one here
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: as the combine starts That i'll really be looking forward.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: To one of the other questions was what is a
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: phrase that comes to your mind when you look at
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: basically all the high level talent with potentially four of
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: the top twelve guys coming off the board being buck,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Eyes and to, me that's just a monumental. Failure monumental,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: failure especially when you add in all, right you also
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: HAD jj And julian saying who also could POTENTIALLY jj
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: will be for, sure But julian could potentially be right
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: there with him up there in that you, know top
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: ten picks six, guys six guys that get picked in
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: the top. TWELVE i, mean that's just bizarre to have
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: a team with that much top end. Talent and the
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: reason to me that the season was so disappointing is
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: because we came into, it most of, us without the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: expectation that they were going to. Repeat AND i think
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: that this sets you up for an even bigger disappointment
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: than when you come in and you think all along
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: you're gonna because you didn't think, so and you were
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: okay with it coming, in but then things. Changed Arvel
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: reese becomes the, dude he becomes cad McDonald becomes the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: best defensive lineman in the. Country Sunny styles takes that
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: next leap and a big step, forward and everything that
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: could go right did go. Right your quarterback is the
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: most accurate quarterback in college football. History and all of a,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: sudden you're halfway through the season and you have got
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: the team that is the odds on favorite to win
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the national championship by a wide. Margin and now you
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: went from not having the, expectations, well now the expectations
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: have really really, changed, right really, Changed and to, me
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that's the perfect recipe to be set up for maximum,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: disappointment and maximum disappointment is what we. Got and a
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: lot of, it in my, mind was. Coaching there was
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of, stubbornness a lot of, stubbornness and that was.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Frustrating it was frustrating through the. Season it's frustrating in the.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Postseason so that was my word or my phrase that
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: came to mind WHEN i thought about. That who is
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: the best transfer in your mind was one of the
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: questions that he wanted to talk. About, now to, ME
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: i think this is pretty definitive and pretty. EASY i
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: think It's Terry, moore AND i think If Terry moore
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: had not had the injury at the end of that,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: year that had he entered the portal at that, time
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: he would have been a huge hot commodity that everybody
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: would have wanted and he would have made a whole
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: lot of money had he entered the portal at that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Period but some guys THAT i think maybe were not
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: talking enough about that are going to be really really.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Good Hunter welsing the tight, END i think this dude's
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: going to be Stud when you watch this. Guy he
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: can contort his body catch the ball in similar ways
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: To Max, claire only has a much, bigger much more
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: complete tight. End AND i think that this, dude despite
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: not having blossomed until your number six in college, football
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: is going to be a real surprise to a lot of.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: People and then Also John, walker the big man in the,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: middle that guy is uh watch his film AT. UCF i,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: mean this dude is a. Dog he's a dog who
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: put up good numbers from the one, tech which you
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: don't usually. See if he can just be that same
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: guy that he was in The big twelve was slightly
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: tougher competition in The big, ten maybe a lot tougher
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: this year on this, schedule if he can be that same, guy,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Golden we're. Golden another one of the questions if you
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: were THE nf if you were AN, nflgm, Right you're
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: AN nflgm and you get to draft one guy off
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Of ryan one Of Ryan day's, teams any Of Ryan day's.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Teams so The Ryan day, tenure there has been fourteen
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: first round picks before this, year which is, staggering isn't it?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Staggering fourteen first rounders in that time? Period you can
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: only pick one guy and me And doug had the same.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Answer for, me this Was Chase. Young, now positional value,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: wise you would think, quarterback, Right But i'm a LOUSY
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: gm in THE. NFL i recognize That i've been making
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: picks for The browns for a lot of years and
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: they're usually wrong because a lot of TIMES i love
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: The browns. Pick i've loved The browns first. Pick and you,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: know things haven't worked out great for. Me you, Know
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: i'm good from high school to, college but that college
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: to THE nfl, Jump i'm. Bad i'm bad at. It
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: and when we talk about the, quarterbacks those two, studs
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: you know you're still rolling the. Dice they are neither
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: of them to be honest THAT i think we're going
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: to be top ten quarterbacks in the. LEAGUE i just
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: didn't think. So so to, me it's a simple. Answer
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: is there another position of high value and a guy
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: THAT i thought was going to be a total game
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: changer for a? Team, yes there, is and that Was Chase.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Young and to, me if we're talking about these guys
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: we don't know anything about THEIR nfl, career just coming
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: coming out Of Ohio, state who would we have drafted?
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: First to, me it Was Chase. Young i'm Drafting Chase.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Young different kind of, monster the, size the, speed the.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: INTIMIDATION i thought that he would be AN nfl superstar,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: immediately which he kind of, was was The rookie of the,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: year and then he gets, injured misses the season and
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: it goes into the next season like it really kind
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: of that injury's ruined two years of his. Career it
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: ruined year number two and number. Three but then last
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: year In New orleans he has maybe his best year
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: yet with ten sacks and maybe he still could be that.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Guy maybe he's, said you, know in my, head for some,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Reason i'm thinking of him as so has been in
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: THE nfl so long because the careers are so. Fast
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: but he's not been in THE nfl that. Long he's
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: got time to still turn himself into a total. Monster
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: and then finally there was this. List and this list
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: was the one hundred best quarterbacks in college football in
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: the two, thousands the one hundred. Best and the question,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: was are any of these guys outer? Rank you Had
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Joe burrow at, five you had Like fields Or stroud at,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Twenty fields at thirty, Four troy at, forty J. T
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: barrett sixty five or, seventy and Brax in at like eighty.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Something AND i just saw red WHEN i saw this
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: list The troy twenty five. Years there's been, right twenty
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: five years in this, century and you're telling me ranking
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: all the, Quarterbacks Troy, smith the guy who won The Heisman,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: trophy is. FORTIETH i don't think.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: So.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Man it made me, furious AND i feel like there
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: has been such a whitewashing Of Troy smith's career AND
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: i absolutely hate. IT i saw a list a couple
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: of years ago that had like the best ranking The
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Heisman trophy winners of the last thirty, years And troy
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: was dead flippin' Last Man Dead. Last troy's, season His
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Heisman trophy season was, Awesome it was, amazing and then
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: you get That florida game AND i feel like it
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: just tarnished the entire, thing AND i don't feel like
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: it should be that way based on one. Game, obviously
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: that game was hugely. Consequential it was the game that
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: catapulted THE sec into their, run and it was a big.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Deal it was an absolutely huge. Deal it wasn't all On.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Troy troy couldn't do a whole lot in that game at,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: all and it wasn't his, fault but they diminished the whole.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Season thirty, touchdowns five, picks the virtueoso performances all year.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Long guy was A michigan killer at a time Where
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Ohio state really needed. THAT i JUST i just don't
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: understand how he gets so. Disrespected he's on My Buckeye
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: mount rushmore for one more, year for one more. YEAR
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: i Think jj'll take a, spot but he's there for me.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Anyway let me know what you guys think about those.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Questions As doug always brings the. Heat check that out
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: over At dug And. Billy always a joy to go
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: on that show with those, guys, man The. Ogs those
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: are The Og Buckeye. Podcasters so it's a big deal for.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Me WHEN i get invited on, there feels pretty. Cool
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: it feels pretty cool. Anyway you guys make me feel
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: pretty cool, Too AND i appreciate you so, much AND
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: i will talk to you again On thursday at eight.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Pm appreciate you for joining us. Tonight we'll talk to you.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Soon