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United, We scan podcast, Welcome back, everybody.
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We are at episode 29. We took a week off as a few of
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us had our state conventions last weekend.
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So, we are back now. How's the last couple weeks been
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treating? You, Mike?
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Oh, what a couple weeks have been pretty good, actually, let
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me look at a calendar. Let me see what the last couple
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weeks were, because my head's not on straight.
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Let's see last week. Let's see, that's July.
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So here's June. So, last couple weeks, so Last
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weekend, I was while you were at State Convention.
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I was getting together with my whole fam damn only in
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Tennessee, with my dad, my and all of my extended family for a
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long weekend. And other than that, it's just
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been normal work. But work has not been too bad,
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the last couple weeks. So that's me.
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Hey, Josh, how is your past couple weeks Pretty good.
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I think my state conventions Ended as yours was getting ready
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to start up again. And if I knew you were in
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Tennessee, I would have told you to swing by, depending on, where
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in the state and where it's only a few more hours.
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Had to educate management again and different things.
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They inquired. Why?
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I was putting my weave in on the lra rather than putting in slips
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because they have to go in and answer to them in terms.
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I'm like well I'm not getting my my slipped back.
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Copy of my slip back receive so that's why I started doing it.
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It's like well you're dealing with me now so we'll see how
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that goes next. Couple times I put in slips
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she'll find them give them back. Uh same day.
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James. I know I spent a few days with
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you at convention, how has it been otherwise?
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Short week last week because the convention it's been pretty
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good. My postmaster actually supports
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the dimensions or Parcels that was listed in the PO 603 under
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male count which is been obviously been told to us that
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it's been deleted and no longer applies.
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And so I talked with my postmaster after and she said,
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I'm still going to support Those Dimensions until they update the
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PO, 603 the PO, 603 is still the current document that has the
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measurements in it. So she's going to support it
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which I support my postmaster, fully on that.
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So it helps my carriers out a lot with that touring around up
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in sus, Amory was awesome. Hello had a lot of fun outside
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of the convention touring the sites, including the Ship Wreck
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of the Edmund Fitzgerald at the Great Lakes, Shipwreck Museum.
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Is IAM and the Valley Camp museum ship which is a former
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crater that's been converted into a museum which also had
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artifacts from the Edmund Fitzgerald.
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So watch ships. Go through the soo locks up
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there going from Lake Michigan and Lake Huron up to Lake
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Superior. Toward the original weather
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bureau office which was built in the 1890s and delivered weather
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information to the ship's right there at the locks.
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That was pretty cool to see I got on the power of history that
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was there was designed to be a church thing that people could
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go to, but they lost funding and so they turned it into a history
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tower that you can actually watch the ships go by.
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And then just as we were about to leave, we got to see the
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Arthur M Anderson The Last Ship to ever talk to the Edmund
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Fitzgerald was actually going northbound through the soo locks
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so that was pretty cool. Cool drive up was good, storms
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on Sunday and then the smoke, of course, from the Canadian
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wildfires. But it was really nice to get
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out and see all my friends and the convention and we'll
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definitely talk more about that here.
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A little later in the episode. But the short week last week was
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really nice not much. In terms of male, still took a
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while to get it done. Kind of rusty after having so
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many days off. But it was really nice, nice,
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couple of weeks, I had a good discussion with quite a few
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people up there as well, and some issues that didn't get
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resolved, that will have to be resolved in another manner, but
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we'll get there. Bill, how is it been for you?
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Dear see, I worked one whole day in the last two weeks between
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our convention last week and the and moving the This week, I only
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worked one day, which was a Friday and that was only because
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they would had three routes down instead of two.
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So I said, you know, I couldn't do that and I went in even know
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I could have used the whole week but I sacrifice myself for my
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fellow carriers and my customers like a martyr.
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Yeah I'm not I'm not giving Wildlife up willingly, you know.
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It would be nice to get back to work and get to see my people
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and my dogs and my customers and the kids and all that.
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I miss that, I really do. Yeah, it was my you Kristen.
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It was a short week for me. I actually stayed two extra days
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after convention ended in attended observed, the
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post-convention board meetings, which I do urge people that with
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the open meeting open board meeting.
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Meetings in your state go it's educational.
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You really learn a lot of what goes behind goes on behind the
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scenes. So other than that was back to
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work Friday you know, ran my route and then went and helped
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the other newer RCA on the route that he's never run in its
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entirety and then worked my double yesterday, sweltering in
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the Lov but you know, nothing new there.
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I do not. Yeah.
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It's been pretty much same old, same old hopefully before the
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convention. They won more.
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Plus the young lady that broker put back in March came back this
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week so and be like, yep, I worked.
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I think that's everybody. But yeah, I had just my Ox route
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for a few days, that was nice. Well, it was a nice little break
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of just running and being done. Help.
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Get some mapping updated and then Worked my double and then
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left for convention on Sunday afternoon, Micah mention was
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that week before then 19? Or yeah.
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The 19th through 21st Monday, Tuesday Wednesday.
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So, I was off that week and that I couldn't remember what I have
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requested. So, Sunday night, I pulled out.
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My lease is up and I cried when I saw that my leave ended Sunday
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night Monday who wants to go back, ya know for ended up
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having to go back on a Monday. It was Heavy.
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Yeah, my office has been anyone dated with Amazon the last few
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weeks to the point. It's We had Al we have a local
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contractor, delivering Amazon. I from my understanding they
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pretty much switched where ours which Warehouse or contracting
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company delivers to the post office as opposed to which one
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goes to the contractors Hub and needless to say we're getting
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the bulk of it back and I've been talking to my one RCA that
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just doing it. Optionally well.
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But his comments to me last night, when I got back as he was
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leaving, where can, you know, he's really, he's having a hard
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time grasping. The fact that we don't get paid
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anything different for doing extra work and he's just like,
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can you tell me what you know is it worth staying when I'm having
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to do all this work extra work? That you know, now I'm working
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over evaluation where he was coming in under evaluation and
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he Just trying to explain how it's supposed to equal itself
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out is just it's kind of difficult for those that are
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newer as opposed to those of us that have been around a while.
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So I'm really worried I don't want him to leave.
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Because number one he'd be my sub and number two he he does do
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a good job. He really is good and he gets
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it. So I'm hoping I can convince him
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not to leave that. You know, it's worth it in the
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end. And it's just that next one to
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go. We don't know when they're going
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to go. I mean, it could be the end of
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this year. It could be next year.
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It could be two years down the road, we don't know.
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So that's this. Whole thing is, is it going to
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be worth the wait for me? So, I mean, I understand it as
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somebody who's trying to provide for their family, I really do.
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So hopefully, fingers crossed. But other than that, lets see.
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I go back and I work by 47, not my route, but the 47k on Monday.
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We are actually not coming in Tuesday to case.
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Yay. I have Tuesday off completely.
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And then Wednesday, yes. The day after the holiday, we
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start OJT with the brand new sub.
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I'm the 47k route. I did find out.
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He was actually the only one in his Academy class last week.
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Not this past week, with the week before, he was.
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So, he had one-on-one Academy all week.
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My old regular we're like three on one, right?
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Yeah. Rihanna And so, and then my old
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regular who I from my first office, she her and I roomed
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together for State Convention and she told me that she went
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into the break room Friday, in the academy instructor and the
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new, my new RCA was in there and she looked to him, she was I've
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heard all about you and he just gave her this look of what the
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heck. So, I'll hook, I'll have to
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clear that up with him, Wednesday a little bit.
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Like, I'm sorry, yes. He Friar Serra for the Academy
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instructor, she was texting with her little bit.
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He seems like he's going to be a good one which we were thinking
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about. He did come in in case two or
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three days why I was gone just to, you know, start learning the
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case and I talked to the regular on that route and she's like,
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yeah, he was doing really good. He's hopefully, we'll stick with
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it and we should find out. I've got another one in the
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pipeline coming up. So that'll give us that one.
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Comes true. And as long as everybody still
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there, that'll give us five our Cas 45k routes and 1/8 Shin my
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ox and there goes my hours, but with a brand new car payment,
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that's a little bit high. But oh, yes, I forgot we haven't
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been on. I got my new car.
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Finally, the one I was looking at.
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Yes, I picked that up. I've had it.
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What? A week and a half now.
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So be two weeks. Us Wednesday that I got it.
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It already had a flat tire. Yeah, I got a flat tire.
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The very next day I went to go pick up my own scared the crap
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out of us saying you got into an accident but it was with the
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postal truck and not the not your own car.
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We were you smashed your new car up already?
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No. Yeah last Saturday before the
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Furry Convention I was in a little fender bender with the LV
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was not my fault. But no, major major issues.
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I guess vmf did take the truck Thursday, basically, I was going
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to make a left hand turn into the driveway.
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It my turn around point and blinker was on Dusty gravel
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road, so I didn't see her behind me.
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She thought I was since it is a little bit narrow Grover Gravel
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Road. She thought I was going to the
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right to let her pass me. So she come up on the left
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because I'm going to turn she did.
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Then notice that I was going trying to turn.
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So she tried to go towards the driveway, more to lessen, the
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impact. So it was a slow little impact.
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She could get the front of her pickup, hit the Left hand front
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quarter panel and knock the bumper off, the one Mount.
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So didn't have an extra truck with everybody out running.
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So supervisor came out, did our accident report thing?
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And then we been a gold the bumper back, sort of in place
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bungee cord it. So I could finish the day.
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Otherwise the right hand side was rubbing on that front, right
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tire. But all in all, you know,
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everybody was okay, we both got all the vehicles, she's like, oh
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my gosh, I'm so sorry, are you okay?
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And I'm like, yes, I'm fine. She gives me.
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Hug. And then she told me how she was
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already upset on her way to a girlfriend.
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She had left her garage door open, and she had baby birds
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that were in a dog crate and another animal had gotten
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through the slots on the dog crate.
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And well, I'll her baby birds unfortunately did not make it
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and it was not a pretty sight. So she was a little upset to.
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So then I had to give her a hug and then we sat there just
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chitchat and for the next half hour or so.
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To the supervisor got out there and we did all our paperwork and
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made up all our reports and statements and whatnot.
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So yeah, that was my very first accident after eight and a half
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years. Yeah, talking about our phone.
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Sorry go ahead Christmas dinner out.
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So so yeah, you know accidents happen, they do.
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But all in all, you know, I'm looking forward to training the
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new guy this next week. Not looking forward to the
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temperatures. So I From one extreme and the
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winter riding in the back on the in the jump seat to in the
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middle of the Sun, in the middle of July writing in the jump
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seat. So one extreme to the other,
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that'll be fun. We need to invest our brother to
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live where you're at. And what was that guy's you were
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talking over each other? Go James.
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I said you're going to have to invest in one of those
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battery-powered fans. Yeah, I'm gonna do something.
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I said I'd rather July where you're at then July.
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Where I'm at? Yes, this is true.
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This is very true and this route does go along you January,
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though, I'll trade you January's and this route.
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The nice thing about this route, it does go.
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We've got to Inland Lakes as well as Lake Huron.
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And it does go north and south across the one Inland Lake and
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then you do up along, 23 along the Lakeshore.
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So you do get a, if there's a nice breeze coming off there, it
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does help. So Don't know how much it'll
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help me sitting in the jump seat, but I will just make sure
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I have plenty of Frozen water bottles with me.
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Yeah. But yeah, I mean, all in all it
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was a decent, couple weeks. If you bring a cooler to keep
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your water bottles in. Uh-huh, if you have ice in the
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cooler, take a rag or bring to rags one that you keep in the
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core. The other around your neck and
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then swap them every half hour or so.
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Yes, I'm well aware Where I don't have a say in my POV
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either. I know how, I know how it works.
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Okay but no yeah so you haven't set up the elbow PVC pipe.
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No I haven't I can't use it because I don't have enough
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deadhead time to make it worth it.
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Yeah they only one I really have enough deadhead time.
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I mean my primary but that's a POV row.
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I just get lucky enough. The get to use an llv when I run
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it with my Ox. So it that helps.
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Yeah, I don't get the mileage, which I'm not worried about but
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my POV honestly, I don't think would last through the route
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right now and I'd really hate to be on the far Northwest end of
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that route where there's absolutely no cell service and
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the car just finally dies. So they're working with me and
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all I got a few more months here, and I'll be full-time.
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So they at least work with me on that.
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I am not going to complain one. Oh no.
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I'm saying you've seen that on Facebook.
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That accurately. Take a PVC elbow.
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Yep, I have seen it many times. I don't have enough time or
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enough. Or for a long enough distance
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for it to even be worth trying. Right.
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I completely understand that. Yeah.
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So, but yeah. So, when life, throws you a
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rotten lemons? Like, you know, the finance, go
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with my car, getting totaled out by somebody, that should not
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have been driving it and then the insurance company being
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awesome in my settlement paid off my loan and I still had a
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nice Hefty down payment, I upgraded.
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So I went from a He 18, Jeep Compass.
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Latitude basically, the base model they I had the cold
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weather package heated seats and steering wheel.
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And I want that was the one thing my boyfriend's.
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Like, can we keep the heated seats, please?
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So I found a 2021 Jeep Compass Trailhawk with never buy
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anything base familiar with that trail.
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Hawks the off-road package, but it also has the tow package and
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it has all the bells and whistles.
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The heated seats. Steering wheel, the lane assist,
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the adaptive cruise controls. I had fun playing with all that.
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That my trip to Saint Marie. Yeah, I got when I went in and
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test drove it, I was like, yep, I'm home.
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So I've got that picked it up. Last Wednesday.
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Thank you. Shout out to a PC.
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You and being awesome with getting me pre-qualified before
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they got my settlement, check for the other one.
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So they've been great for me to work with on personal loans car
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loans. Checking savings, my kids
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savings accounts. I I personally have never had
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any bad dealings with them at all, so but yeah.
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So I forgot my new car and I'm enjoying it.
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And I get to take it to Ohio in a couple weeks for a weekend
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away from everything. Right.
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Yeah, I am looking forward to some personal long heavy metal
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tattoo Festival. So if any of you out there that
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are listening, that are going to be a incarceration Festival,
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shout out. If you see me, give me a holler
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if not, you know, we'll all be there.
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But yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to that weekend away
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from everything. Definitely take a lot off your
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mind. Oh, yes.
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Yes. The past few weeks, we've had a
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bunch of State conventions going on.
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Anybody want to share any details, I know.
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We can't explain a lot of stuff that occurred, but we can talk
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about how it was, and what you saw kind of things.
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Being me, me me me. That's awesome.
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We had the committeeman position up.
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I ran against the incumbent, did not make it.
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I wasn't expecting to me. And that committee, men that did
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win have very similar outlooks on how we like the union to be
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in the long run. So I wasn't upset for not
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winning. We headed A total of seven
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revolutions, seven resolutions to of, which, for under new
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business, that passed. And we're going to National.
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We've had. We also had a few Constitution
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changes the past. I don't have my back in front of
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me. You go through what those are.
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But they were only state level changes.
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One of which was introduced a new business by first timer,
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which past surely For was our national representative are I've
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missed most of her presentation because I was on the
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Constitution committee so IG. Cannot, you know, we were
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beating during our presentation, one of our constitution changes
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that they will bring in the Constitution and resolution, for
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me at least one day in advance prior to started to mention.
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So we can me on these things and not miss.
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Orton business like that. Yeah, some of the old-timers
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said that they have had that before but they used to do that
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and whatever reason they just stopped.
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I don't know why, how long ago that was last year was my first
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year on the Constitution committee.
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So I can't speak for anything prior to that James.
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I'll let you lead off with Michigan.
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Well, I know, Had more people than last year for first timers,
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which was great to see. It was very enlightening and a
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lot of respects being my first time as an actual delegate.
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It came with a lot of responsibility that I felt at
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least to do the right thing for the carrier's.
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Not only for me, but for everybody in my County, as well
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as in the state and in the country, because Because you go
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to these things and you're actually making decisions that
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can go on to the National Convention.
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So being able to sit there and put my own words to it, without
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just sitting and being an observer or asking are now
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director of Labor Relations to suspend the rules.
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So I can present a resolution like I did last year makes it
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more interesting and and made me more involved in what was going
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on. On the first day, we got our
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resolutions and Constitution changes.
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And that night, I read through every single one.
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And mark, the ones that I needed, either more information
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on did not like things like that.
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So that way, when we finally got to that in the convention
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proceedings, we could flow through it fat.
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I could flow through it faster and as they say, object to the
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ones, I needed either clarification or thought was not
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well written not well presented or Didn't really make logical
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sense to me. Kristen can attest.
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I did a lot C. Move your seat up by the
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microphone. Yes, I had to move my seat up by
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the microphone, but also that help that I could assist in
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people with that are vertically challenged be able to talk into
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the mic. Also it was the fact that there
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were so many, there were actually duplicate resolutions
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that were just different enough that they had to.
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They had to be separated. Resolutions.
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So if you voted to pass one, the other one got rejected.
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If you rejected the first one, the second one came up for a
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vote. So it was interesting to see all
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that process and ours. Of course, the person who was
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with ours, was our very own director of Labor Relations from
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the state of Michigan Bridge at Bossier, who was our national
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representative at ours and she brought up some good points and
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some interesting facts. And had a great meeting with
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her. It was nice to have a sit-down
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conversation with her and I appreciate her taking the time
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to give me her opinion on things.
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So it was, it was a great time overall, and hopefully, we can
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continue to work together and resolve issues and things like
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that. Overall.
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I think we did a have a really, really quick convention.
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If I might say because it was a lot shorter than the last one,
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and a lot of X. Yeah, as well.
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This I've been to numerous convention so this definitely
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wasn't my first time as a delegate at State Convention, we
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had twenty first timers this year which was more than last
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year. We I was counting them as they
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were going up there and getting their stuff and posing for the
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picture and we had 33 resolutions that were they could
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go on to National of those 33. Why I do believe, if I just
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counted right 16 of them passed, we did have a new business from
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a first-timer resolution that wasn't included in the packet.
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She, she was nervous going up there but it was an awesome,
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awesome resolution. Like I said, first time up at
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the mic, pretty nervous. So I kind of I let her to where
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she just kind of stopped, didn't know what else to go.
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So I hopped up and I finished it off for and her regular who I So
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happen to attend. And was one of them.
27:20
I went out to dinner with on Tuesday evening.
27:23
She, she thanked me for. She's like, I just wanted a
27:26
passion. She says, thank you so much for
27:28
going up there and helping her. I'm like, hey, not a problem and
27:31
that resolution did pass. So, it was an awesome
27:36
resolution. I'll give it to think that one
27:38
had any discussion before it was passed either know, it really
27:41
did good. Yeah, and even, you know, yeah,
27:45
everybody really applauded that one, I'll give her that and
27:48
Orson, when it passed everything, she got a standing
27:50
ovation to just number one, because she was a first timer
27:53
and put up that resolution. And number two, it was an
27:56
awesome resolution. So hurry, if you had the guts to
27:59
get up there and actually put it up, yes.
28:01
Yes, and my resolution on did pass without any discussion so
28:09
that one went through rather easily.
28:11
Oh yeah, we had some good ones go through.
28:13
We had a few withdrawn because of a couple that failed.
28:16
They kind of went hand in hand with the other one again.
28:19
So yeah yeah. All in all that it did go rather
28:21
quickly this time around I will say that it was nice to see a
28:25
lot of great information that was passed around.
28:29
I did run for junior member that was actually the only position
28:33
on the State Board. We actually had to take a vote
28:35
on everybody else got voted back in unanimously.
28:39
No, nobody running against him. There was three of us that ran
28:43
for the junior member. I did not make it.
28:46
That's okay though, bill it Is your turn mine?
28:50
Yes. All, you know, dear - my turn.
28:54
Yeah, we started our convention on Sundays and there's a lot of
29:04
meetings laborers stewards and everything else that they get it
29:09
out of the way before the actual convention starts.
29:12
But II was surprised, I'm in line for, you know, my
29:17
registration. Credentials and some woman heard
29:21
me. She goes bill, and I said looked
29:23
around. And she gives your bill and I
29:25
said, yes, I am. She has no your bill from the
29:28
podcast. I said, which one she has
29:31
United. We scan.
29:32
I love it. You guys are awesome about it.
29:35
And, I mean, it's like, you know, I found a long-lost friend
29:38
and I never knew I had, and do the rest of the convention,
29:42
there was close to 30 some people that, you know, we're all
29:47
You know, kind of like groupies for us and it's like, you know,
29:50
that being real and made me feel so good.
29:52
That people are listening and getting advice and everything
29:55
from us and they really appreciate it because they're
29:58
often and offices that don't have, you know, access to the
30:01
information or where to eat, where to even look for it.
30:04
So we're doing a great job, folks.
30:07
Pat y'all's yourselves on the back.
30:09
Our convention was, you know, standard Pennsylvania
30:12
Convention. It's a well-run And Timely and
30:16
everything. They were a couple fo pause that
30:19
were brought to their attention by your favorite asshole.
30:22
Again, you know, one of the things that struck me about the
30:25
convention was here. We are again.
30:28
We're a 4,000-plus, strong member State and we had a hard
30:34
time getting 25% of the Canada to show up at the convention.
30:39
And it's just, it's it's a dire, reminder, folks of the apathy
30:44
that our membership to From and I, you know, I applaud all of
30:49
you on this podcast because of the fact that we have gotten
30:53
recognition for bringing people back into Union and lifting
30:56
their spirits up and and making them want to stand up and fight
30:59
for themselves. So, you know, kudos to all of
31:02
you even to myself. But you know, this is one of the
31:07
greatest dangers besides the post office.
31:09
You know, to this craft is the apathy, and we've got to find a
31:14
way of turning and people around and getting them.
31:16
The Leave into in the Union in their stewards system, in their
31:20
Rio labor department and you know at the presidential and
31:24
vice presidential level in regards to defending their
31:27
interest. In protecting them from you know
31:29
whatever harassment or intimidation.
31:31
They're encountering every day in their office that like I said
31:35
it was you know business during the day and alcoholic business
31:39
at night and it's fun. I'll pull a muscle, don't pull a
31:44
muscle patting yourself on the back there, Bill.
31:46
Oh I'll tell you what it's funny.
31:50
Because, at night time, we had 30, 40 people around this big
31:53
Courtyard. That was in the center of the
31:55
hotel with a fire pit and everything and ensure, the
31:58
alcohol flowed freely and food and snacks, and everything else.
32:02
But, you know, you know how much we got done discussing the the
32:06
resolutions and everything, you know, sitting around that little
32:08
fire pit. I mean, you know, people think
32:11
it's just a party but boy, we're out there to ten thirty one
32:14
night, you know, discussing them several.
32:16
I went back to the room till 1:00 still working on stuff.
32:19
Joe. It's like the National
32:21
Convention are all. It's like one big party folks.
32:24
It's not a party, it's harder work than carrying your damn
32:28
raft because it's a lot longer and it's all mental.
32:32
It's it's that mental drain that it does on you and he actually
32:37
come back more tired than you are.
32:39
If you were running near out that day or for that week
32:43
because it really is, it is quite big a couple of couple
32:46
days after You can press it, it really is a mental drain and I
32:51
mean, I get it where people have that the mentality because they
32:55
see the pictures from, you know, the Banquets and they see the
32:59
photos posted if, you know, people gathered around out on
33:03
the patios and whatnot and with their beers but they don't,
33:06
they're not hearing the conversation that were talking
33:09
at those tables which is like what bill was saying.
33:13
A lot of us talk about the resolutions that because you
33:16
know, we get a chance Chance to look at them before they're
33:18
presented. And so, a lot of that talk is
33:20
about that or it's, you know, you're talking about your
33:24
conditions in your office or its work.
33:26
Talk usually for I would say, a good 75, 90 percent of it is
33:31
work. Talk was where decompressing
33:33
from sitting on a convention floor all day long?
33:35
Well, we individual that actually had the core in the tub
33:42
for outlaws alcohol needs. Mmm.
33:46
Bart is he hardly drinks but he's got a flip but he's got a
33:51
flip chart on there for Resolutions and everything in
33:53
discussions and articles and everything.
33:56
And it's like, you know, folks he oh II sit there lab because
34:01
if I see a beer in his hand I'm surprised because he's so busy
34:04
working on this stuff. 24/7. Yeah.
34:08
And the the ironic part of it is he's a retiree, I know exactly
34:13
who you're talking about. Yes, he he owes you one.
34:16
Of those one of those handful of retirees that is still very much
34:21
involved in. What is going on today and an
34:24
acid? Yes, definitely definitely.
34:27
I did have conversation with him at mid states.
34:30
He did a ton. So yeah.
34:31
I yeah definitely one of those awesome assets that we enjoy
34:35
having that wants to see betterment for the craft even
34:38
though they're no longer have their, you know, boots in the
34:42
trenches. So to say it's like we're at the
34:45
resort we were. That because of, you know, they
34:48
recommend having reservations for the meals.
34:51
We know that were not included in the convention.
34:55
So Monday night, we had dinner reservation at one at the
35:00
Italian restaurant. There, one of the girls from my
35:04
office, it was there for you know her husband was there and a
35:07
couple that their friends with their not postal workers just
35:11
happened to be up there in the area.
35:13
Also she asked me if If they want, could they join us for
35:19
dinner? I'm like, well, let me know, but
35:21
just make sure they're not going to be upset or offended that
35:27
we're talking shop through the whole meal, you know, in
35:30
science, you know, because like you said, you were just saying
35:33
it. Even though work off, we're not
35:37
during the meetings were having dinner on our own.
35:41
We're still talking about what happened that day on the
35:44
convention floor, where you help you.
35:47
Resolute, what do we think of this resolution or Constitution
35:50
change? You know what can we do to
35:52
improve everything? Yeah, the biggest thing I saw
35:55
overall was how dedicated a lot of these people were to this
35:59
information. And when we got to after
36:03
objections because our resolutions, we go through the
36:06
resolution and they first read the number.
36:09
And if nobody had check subjects to it first, then they read the
36:13
resolution, then if nobody objects to it.
36:15
Once the gavel drops. Ops it is considered past.
36:18
So after we object-- we then go through all of them and then we
36:23
go back through the ones we objected and discuss them and a
36:27
couple of them, we get 10 minutes total time to actually
36:31
discuss some two minutes per person and that's in our state
36:34
constitution to do that. And with that we had some people
36:39
that actually requested more time to discuss the item because
36:43
the ideas weren't fully finished and that requires a vote.
36:46
The floor for people to extend the time to talk about it.
36:50
And we did that several times because it was such a good
36:54
discussion. We needed to complete the
36:56
discussion and finish it out and it was really good.
36:59
And then at times we were in the middle of a discussion and
37:01
people were saying the same thing over and over and then
37:04
people would just step up and basically called a question for
37:07
the vote and get people to vote for it.
37:10
Because you're saying the same things over and over we might as
37:12
well move on to the next thing. That's one of the best things I
37:15
see is. People actually getting up and
37:18
being passionate about talking about the topics that are up for
37:22
vote. It really is humbling to think
37:26
that even though we don't see this in the Post online and we
37:31
don't see it in action in our offices and things like that.
37:35
Like we would want to be able to go to these conventions, is a
37:41
great way to see, kind of behind the curtain of what's going on.
37:46
And even if you're not a delegate sometimes attending,
37:49
these conventions is a great way to go.
37:52
I met a few non delegates at my convention.
37:55
And like Bill said, I we had several people walk up and go
37:58
oh, you're that guy on the podcast or her Kristen would be
38:02
your that girl on the podcast, things like that.
38:06
And it's so nice and humbling to know that we're all here and
38:11
we're actually making a difference, just like the
38:14
conventions, make a difference. This podcast is making a
38:18
difference and I really want to thank every single one of our
38:21
fans out there for sharing us listening to us and all that
38:25
stuff. We've had one that we were
38:27
discussing that you know debate con got extended two or three
38:34
times and then they would not let us extend time anymore and
38:38
it wasn't because it was the same point being brought up back
38:44
and forth. It was just dude.
38:46
You time, we need to move this on because I think it was a that
38:52
debate was over an amendment to what was originally proposed and
38:57
that's what's nice when you have a resolution on the floor and
39:00
it's getting disgusted. Then people are objecting to
39:03
this language or that language, it can be amended and the the
39:09
offering party in our case, you know what, we call chapter can
39:13
turn around and remove it and and work on it, some more and
39:18
bring it back on the closing day as new business.
39:21
That can be voted on which, you know, gives you the time and
39:24
opportunity to collaborate with, you know, people around you to
39:28
fine-tune it to the point where it's acceptable to the
39:31
individuals who objected to language originally.
39:35
Yeah, you know to collaboration it's a collaboration for and
39:38
against a resolution but it gets you to the final language which
39:43
can be then an accepted resolution.
39:46
Yeah. Because the The premise of the
39:48
idea of the actual resolution was a good idea, it's just you
39:52
needed. A tighten up, the language more
39:53
for it to fly. I get it.
39:55
Totally. Yeah, we've had a few of those
39:57
two and sometimes it just comes down to changing just one word
40:01
word. Yep.
40:03
Yep. And and makes it so much better
40:05
to change that one word to pass it on than it does to have the
40:09
original word that was there and was to have everybody in the
40:12
room actually agree. That that one word is the only
40:15
thing that needs to be changed. It is an amazing thing to see.
40:18
Yeah. And it could be something as
40:19
simple as instead of will shall or vice versa.
40:23
And, you know, it's funny, here's the funny part, is that,
40:26
you know, after seven Hard Apple Cider Zan date Fireballs.
40:30
Yeah. You finally find enough people
40:33
to agree with the wording, right?
40:38
We call that I'll put it this way.
40:39
There was no drinking on the floor that we knew of just all
40:43
to be aware. This is that we know of that we
40:46
know of of that that type of discussions done off off the
40:51
convention for the floor. Yeah, on the patio.
40:54
Yeah. So let me make this perfectly
40:57
clear to myself. the 603 standards are no longer viable
41:04
because they were established under the old mail count system,
41:09
The news yet under the new standards, which have not been
41:12
published. For the Rex program which has
41:18
been now 11 plus years in the making have not been updated
41:23
yet. There are references to parcel
41:29
things in the wrecks guide and on the quick reference sheet
41:33
that that both management and the union have provided.
41:37
However there is no definitive measurements.
41:42
For what a parcel is or is not and this is related to unscanned
41:47
parcel. And so, just like the free is
41:51
also not been updated correctly, correctly, 6050 06:03 probably
41:55
will not be updated for several years.
41:57
I believe the last one before this one was updated in the 70s
42:02
and then this one was updated in 2013.
42:05
So if that's any track record of how long it takes them to update
42:08
documents concerning this stuff, there's area That's supposedly,
42:14
it's in the works but until then you can put you my copy and move
42:19
my grave. Okay, yeah.
42:22
And carrier, discretion how you guys want to approach it?
42:28
And everything listed in the wrecks guide and the quick
42:33
reference guide and the 99 page guide all point to its carrier
42:38
discretion. Carriers are the ones that are
42:41
supposed to be deciding these things.
42:44
So get with your local Steward if management is hassling you
42:48
especially if they're saying it has to be shoebox-sized.
42:50
That's a city reference referencing.
42:55
Why would you say that's a shitty reference?
43:16
I had an off the record conversation with our national
43:19
board member asked. If there was any updates to the
43:23
our Cam and was told that it is getting ready to go to final
43:29
approval, and then printing, but they were not overly enthused
43:34
with some of the language that was put into it.
43:39
Oh Jesus, it was in their opinion.
43:43
It's a bit big. Most of wrecks.
43:46
That Rex most of Rex's bag. Well-known saying, the, our
43:50
camera which is the joint manual can by giving you reference to
43:56
all all the manuals and everything.
44:00
Taking it back back, step by step, like the Jake a, the city
44:03
Side. Okay, it's supposed to look
44:05
eliminate the gray areas language-wise.
44:08
His in the contract to something that's agreed upon before both
44:13
parties. So you have something in the
44:15
contract that, you know, you look at.
44:17
And it's like, that's not, you know, it's a gray area.
44:19
It's supposed to fill in that Gap but we'll see when it comes
44:23
out. I don't understand.
44:25
I thought three Master evil Engineers got together, agreed
44:31
upon all these, you know, Alberta and not metrics and
44:36
everything else. And now we're in a position
44:40
where these guys have never rode in the back of a truck or
44:43
anything are sitting there saying, okay, we might have
44:46
missed this or that. No, no, no no.
44:56
The engineers only designed the program for the calculations.
45:01
The numbers for the values were argued back and forth between
45:07
the Postal Service in the union, the numbers that they actually
45:10
charge for each of the parts are where actually figured out
45:15
between the two. Probably, because the engineers
45:19
would just basically build the program to work the way that the
45:22
Union in the Postal Service, wanted to do, the numbers had to
45:27
come from other factors which includes people that actually
45:31
have access to that information even though at mid states the
45:36
regional manager proved that they don't have access to those
45:39
numbers as managed it somehow. Yep.
45:41
But that's how they figured it out.
45:44
So don't don't blame the engineers for the actual numbers
45:48
because they a just built the program.
45:50
The way they were told to build it.
45:52
Look, if your name is Miracle, then you ought to be able to
45:55
pull one out. We're hoping for a miracle.
46:03
He'll marry same thing. We're all praying.
46:05
I'm an atheist. I'm praying swear to God.
46:09
So, any other important updates you guys have that.
46:13
You guys want to put forth from your state conventions that
46:16
interesting facts people that talk to You information that you
46:21
want to relay to people and let them know that maybe they should
46:25
go to their conventions. Well, I had a couple people who
46:29
didn't know the proceedings in regards, the balloting and
46:32
everything else, which we had to explain that to them, they
46:38
didn't understand, you know, when they got up to the
46:41
microphone that they had to identify themselves, the proper
46:44
procedure for Robert's Rules, And yeah, just a little nuances
46:49
that they follow and you know the that the parliamentarian is
46:53
sitting there making sure that you follow these, you know,
46:56
rules in regards to how you conduct your meeting and they
47:00
were like you know well why is this a present talking to this
47:03
lady? Well because this lady does this
47:06
for a job and you know this is her living and she knows more
47:10
about the rules than you know most of our state officers now
47:16
you know, they traveled Around the country, you know, doing
47:18
this for a living and they enforce it to make sure that,
47:21
you know, you are within the guidelines of the of your
47:24
Charter and the Robert's rules in regards of recognizing or you
47:28
know, like you have any discussions the time limits and
47:32
all that everything has to follow the rules.
47:35
So they were surprised how strict they were in, you know,
47:40
most instances but we had we had one lapse that was brought to
47:44
their attention and hopefully it won't.
47:46
Then again, yeah, I got smacked down a couple of times, just a
47:50
simple meat. Makes it that people make, you
47:52
know, I wasn't the only one to make that mistake.
47:55
But unfortunately I was the one at the mic when the lady finally
47:58
decided to tell the president, hey, you shouldn't be doing it
48:02
that way. So I got I got the smackdown but
48:05
everybody else got notified by me getting this back down that I
48:09
wasn't supposed to be doing it that way.
48:11
That calls the smackdown but it was actually a polite and
48:15
informative. But you know, if you do
48:18
something wrong, you you need to do it, you need to get told how
48:21
to do it right. Then that's the keys because
48:24
they're actually transcripting the meetings, they are actually
48:28
have a transcriptionist just like a courtroom writing the
48:31
minutes of the meeting there. We had a first-timer come up to
48:36
quit. You know she just wanted
48:37
clarification on one of the resolutions and they need to
48:41
explain to her that you have to eject to it just to ask a
48:45
clarifying question. Well, No, no no.
48:47
You don't have to object to it. You I mean, you know, we're
48:50
going up because if there's no objection it is if there's no
48:53
objection, it automatically passes.
48:55
No, no. You can actually get up there
48:58
for it and ask for a clarification of the language,
49:01
though. That that that that ax is seen
49:05
as an objection. You can be for it but subject to
49:08
the language. I did that on a couple.
49:12
I did that on a couple in you you object to it first and then
49:16
when it comes up under the objections, you go objected for
49:19
clarification, right? And usually once they give the
49:22
clarification then you can turn around.
49:25
And after your clarification you can just go call to question.
49:30
See. Now in our state, when you go up
49:32
to the microphone, you suppose you have your yay or nay card
49:35
with you and you're supposed to front it, to the president,
49:39
who's calling the microphones out, and right, as far as
49:43
whether you're objecting or agreeing with it, and then she
49:46
alternates them, you know, back and forth until there's either,
49:49
no of more objections or supporting Arguments for it.
49:52
And then she knew through the rest of either objections or
49:55
supporting before he closed the question or you run out of time.
49:59
People going up there to didn't have their cards and you know
50:02
that she has to are you for it or are you against it?
50:05
Well, you know, what's going on, you know, it just if you do it
50:09
the way it's supposed to be, it's a lot smoother, you know,
50:13
like I said, you know, we had, you know, 2728 newbies are so
50:19
you know they got you got their feet wet and learn a little
50:22
lesson. Yeah but all in all an arse at
50:25
least it was very professional. Everybody acted with good too.
50:29
Orem, there weren't outbursts or courtroom drama, so to speak,
50:36
kind of thing. And to be honest, the level of
50:40
intelligent thought, people had towards the resolutions was
50:45
refreshing. People actually stood up and
50:47
voice their concerns in a reasonable and logical sense.
50:54
There wasn't any attacks on people or wasn't any.
50:58
It was nothing. Got heated basically?
51:01
Yes. Yeah.
51:02
And last year, we had a couple instances where it got heated
51:07
over specific people, not things, but people.
51:12
But this year, it was really nice to flow through the stuff
51:15
and get through it with logical. Decorum.
51:20
We had Rapids, what we had but it was all Yes, it was all the
51:31
fashionable. Filthy.
51:32
Yes. It was all professional.
51:35
But some of it did get heated and it was not geared,
51:41
specifically, to an individual or, you know, or anything.
51:45
It was Henry, get a little passionate about their stance.
51:50
We actually are one of our past presidents.
51:54
He actually stepped away from the mic because he, you know, he
51:58
realized you were starting to get a little carried away there
52:02
on what you know what he was arguing.
52:04
So he stepped away collected himself and came back up to make
52:08
his point. How do you talk about when you
52:09
get overwhelmed, take a step back, take a breath, and then
52:12
step back into it. Yep.
52:15
Yeah, I had to hold myself back in one point because I felt like
52:21
singing, you know, I just wanted to say I Left My Heart in San
52:25
Francisco way, Tony Bennett. But, you know, Little voice in
52:31
the back of my head said, they don't want to hear you go.
52:33
Yeah, it's nice to know you do have a conscious sometimes that
52:39
what that was? I think so, he's coming fast.
52:44
I don't know, I don't believe in that.
52:50
I'll tell you what I did something magnanimous.
52:53
And you know and you know people congratulate thank me and all
52:58
our veterans unit. It was short 35 tickets of
53:02
meeting 100 for the convention and it's five dollars a year,
53:07
okay? And yeah, they made the
53:08
announcement and all that. So I went up there and I said,
53:11
yeah, okay, I'd like to volunteer to pay for those 35
53:14
tickets and they go. Well, they're $5 each I said and
53:19
they said well, you know how much money that is and I said,
53:22
and so they turn to wrap. They kicked.
53:25
They turned around and came over to get, I gave him the cash, you
53:28
know, and they handed out 30. I've memberships to the veterans
53:31
to anybody who wanted to sign up for him, which which turned
53:36
around and made them eligible for the for book.
53:39
Grants that the veterans were given out that night at the
53:42
dinner table, that our annual banquet, that's how may be made
53:46
me feel good by Gars. My membership was Terrace here
53:50
for Veterans for the veterans Club.
53:51
Yeah, yeah. Well, that's because you're ugly
53:55
could be. Yeah.
53:57
Hey, now let's keep it. Let's keep the car on here just
54:00
like the State Convention. Well, if it's not true,
54:29
The mail truck and I've gotten several little diecast models.
54:34
So I turned around and I had this one where the last bid on,
54:38
it was $19. So I just wrote 50 dollars in
54:41
there. Would everybody just cussed me
54:43
out for you guys as well? Hold on, is the money going to
54:46
pack for a good reason, everything.
54:48
Yeah. Okay.
54:49
Yeah, you know, am I giving this a little kid in my wrath and to
54:51
make his debut as yeah? Okay.
54:53
Well, what do you get upset about?
54:55
It's my money, you know, they didn't say nothing when I spent,
54:58
you know, Dollars for a throw blanket last year.
55:02
The dog loves that blanket to. Hmm, I know that pack is a big
55:08
big thing at the convention. Ours, big big donation at ours
55:15
for it. It was really nice to see a lot
55:17
of people participating in that and we had three items go up for
55:21
bid and they all went for exorbitant amount of money's in
55:26
my opinion. But I'm on table two.
55:28
So it's anything. for five dollars, that is exorbitant to
55:31
me, but But it was actually really nice to see people
55:40
getting involved in that and one of the one of our carriers
55:43
husband's is a professional Auctioneer and he comes to these
55:49
conventions and he actually is our Auctioneer for those events.
55:52
So it's really nice to have a real Auctioneer stand up and do
55:55
the auction will ask if we used to have one that came to our
56:04
dimensions, He has completely retired at this point.
56:09
So in the last two years we were at 1600, which is on Indian
56:13
ground, which is it not legal to have an auction so on the, you
56:19
know, on the reservation ground. So the last time they were a few
56:23
years back, they actually went off the reservation to hold the
56:28
banquet. Not an auction this year and
56:30
last year, they just did a the pack banquet I donation for the
56:36
meal and then the silent auctions.
56:39
So it'll be interesting to see you next year when it's when the
56:42
state conventions up the street, what they do, you know what they
56:45
decide to do? If we go back to having an
56:47
auction or not all in all, I think it was a great event.
56:53
A lot of new faces, a lot of non delegates and delegates at ours
56:58
and participation was up compared to last year.
57:03
The number of people there were up from last year.
57:07
There are so at least so you see people getting involved like
57:12
that. You know, I believe a lot of
57:14
that has to do with the latest updates to our pay.
57:20
But part of that also tells me that people want to get
57:25
involved, people want to make a difference in this community of
57:29
rural carriers and want to take care of the rural carriers want
57:34
to help themselves. But at the same time, help
57:37
others. Barriers.
57:38
So not only that but that sidebar to, that is the amount
57:42
of people who put their names in for committeeman positions, on
57:47
our state board. You know, that they're just
57:50
local people, maybe some of them are officers in their chapters
57:53
or whatever. I mean, but we had at least 11
57:57
people throw their hats in the ring for the first time to how
58:01
the only at the State Board and that's encouraging the sieve
58:03
them wanting to get their feet wet at that level, had it all
58:07
now, I hear ya, how long, how many rounds that of Elections
58:12
that take? Well, that was over three
58:15
different positions. The one was a one against 11,
58:22
was the for that took two rounds and then we had the other one
58:30
which was like five people and that took three rounds.
58:34
Okay, so that one too bad. No, no.
58:37
Because the ones with the multiples of 4 and the 5 day,
58:40
they both after the first round, the lowest person that was still
58:45
left bailed out. Okay.
58:49
Yeah, yeah. So, you know, it left.
58:52
Yes. Do it when the three on three on
58:53
three so it went fairly easy and the three-on-three, IT the
58:58
two-thirds majority. So, okay, yeah, they want out,
59:02
right? That's in the one was a slam
59:04
dunk. That I had mentioned before we
59:06
record it. We had it was me and the
59:10
incumbent out of it was like, 820 votes.
59:16
I forget the exact and put it for 25 was a simple majority.
59:21
He got. So I got 160 something and you
59:25
got the rest of them, but for someone who's hasn't been in,
59:30
you know, just recently really got involved.
59:33
That's more than double just my district which tells me that are
59:37
People other than my district who obviously all voted for me.
59:41
Did, you know, kid won't want me in there?
59:44
I voted for you twice, Josh, I appreciate it.
59:50
I voted for me 21 times because there's only it was only three
59:55
delegates to split. 60, some votes.
59:57
So wait, sounds like you're from Philadelphia.
1:00:00
Yeah. And have to count them out to
1:00:24
each other all the time. Gosh your muffled.
1:00:44
Yeah I got mine out of my district.
1:00:46
I had 45 44 votes for mine while the rest.
1:00:50
Everybody else had 45 because I was a junior delegate in my
1:00:54
County so I got the least number of votes available but we split
1:01:00
it up 44 and then everybody else had 45.
1:01:04
So, but there was one delegate, and this is why participation
1:01:09
matters. One delegate voting against my
1:01:12
County would take out three and a half people because they had
1:01:16
192 votes. Oh, by themselves, they were
1:01:21
voting their entire County strength by themselves, because
1:01:24
they were the only person to come.
1:01:26
So you have to remember 192 192 votes, right?
1:01:32
It's one vote per day. Elegant know, ours is voting
1:01:36
your county strength so it County strength.
1:01:39
So if you're coming one, vote one vote, something like that.
1:01:46
Yeah. So like a paying Member One
1:01:50
vote. Okay.
1:01:51
You could have had a hundred ninety two delegates there.
1:01:54
No, because it's $1, you get her 10 votes?
1:01:57
Remember, you get 10 volts per delegate?
1:01:59
Well, right? Yeah, because you know, animal
1:02:01
for my County voting strength. It was 125 total.
1:02:06
There was two of us, there is delegates.
1:02:09
So one took 62, I took 63 because I'm the senior board
1:02:13
member. So you vote for the number of
1:02:16
dues-paying members, you have in your county and at least in our
1:02:20
state, it's Per County or County grouping, because some counties
1:02:25
have merged together because of lack of participation.
1:02:28
Well, those counties not only do they get the strength of the
1:02:31
county that they live in. But if they have other counties
1:02:34
that they've merged with, they get the strength of those
1:02:36
counties to. And if they're the only one
1:02:39
coming up from a two, three, four County Section.
1:02:42
They're going to have a lot more votes than somebody coming up
1:02:45
from a single County that has good participation.
1:02:49
Okay? So like we do it.
1:02:52
So if, for example, my district is right around 350 and I
1:02:58
believe we get one delegate per six members and you get a vote.
1:03:03
Her delegate, so I had like, 60 61 delegate, you know, delegates
1:03:10
available. So I get, you know, those 61
1:03:12
votes. So, each vote, I cast this for
1:03:15
six members in. All right, iris is by 10.
1:03:18
I've never heard it by 6, and then you get one extra for
1:03:21
anything above that and ours if I tend to, yeah, I don't make, I
1:03:26
don't write the rules. No, but you can play.
1:03:31
If you pass the Constitutional change.
1:03:33
You can write a resolution. Yes, yeah, yeah.
1:03:37
We had a girl. What?
1:03:46
We do things a little differently.
1:03:50
Small, you're talking about a delegate for every six or every
1:03:55
10 members, we basically, if you remember, Good standing and you
1:03:59
show up to the convention and you are registered by the
1:04:03
opening day of convention, you're seated as a delegate and
1:04:06
we had 36 total delegates, that are at our recent convention,
1:04:11
just to put it in perspective, a little overwhelmed 229 delegates
1:04:20
and delegates. I know there's there's some
1:04:22
states out there that have even less delegates from there and
1:04:26
you have having them less dues-paying care.
1:04:29
Years, you know you think about States like Alaska, Hawaii,
1:04:34
places like that which have a very small region of delivery
1:04:38
that they do. And the number of carriers that
1:04:41
cover those areas and they don't and Alaska and Hawaii are
1:04:45
actually the two states that don't have a state Association.
1:04:48
They are members of a additional Estate Association.
1:04:52
Well, I volunteer to get a Hawaii and set one up know what
1:04:58
Just imagine the cost to go to the conventions.
1:05:29
To get around the island thought Southwest which I thought was
1:05:32
kind of interesting. But yeah, they had that incident
1:05:35
with the Aloha Airlines 737 where the whole roof came off.
1:05:39
Yeah, yeah. Big chunk of the roof came off.
1:05:42
Yet remember that? I have an alibi for that day?
1:05:46
Yeah, I'm sure you did. But I was too young.
1:05:48
That's what the 737 was built for, though was so short, haul
1:05:51
short Hops, and lights and and Southwest is the largest owner
1:05:57
of Evans in the world. So to have them take over the
1:06:02
short haul flights down in Hawaii's probably beneficial
1:06:05
because they have all the tools and equipment and knowledge to
1:06:08
deal with 737. Is it is but we're getting off
1:06:11
track here, right? Like so our smallest District in
1:06:17
the state as 47 members with eight votes, and the largest is
1:06:22
427 members with 72 votes and I apologize I have three hundred,
1:06:28
forty eight members Ricky eight bucks this year.
1:06:30
So yeah it's one of the things we've been always pushing on
1:06:34
this podcast is participate, get involved, get with your union,
1:06:39
go to, your county meetings, get involved, run for delegate, go
1:06:43
to your State Convention because there's so much information, not
1:06:47
only at those meetings but you also some of them have boosters
1:06:51
your spring booster, your fall booster, things like that, where
1:06:53
you can get information, and it's valuable information for
1:06:58
Cyril, carrier, most most of it is, you know, the union is big
1:07:04
on dues-paying members being involved in things like that.
1:07:08
But non dues-paying members can be observers as well in these
1:07:13
conventions. They can't speak unless they get
1:07:17
somebody to suspend the rules for them, but you can go and
1:07:21
learn education is the most important part.
1:07:24
Absolutely. And, you know, it going as a
1:07:28
non-delegable, I think you get the kind of take the whole thing
1:07:31
in a little bit differently than you are as a delegate.
1:07:34
But just to be able to watch and see everything and, you know,
1:07:39
and not only like James said, having somebody get up there in
1:07:42
a suspend, the rules to let you speak.
1:07:44
But and if you're not comfortable going to a mic, you
1:07:46
can always find a delicate that would be willing to speak on
1:07:49
your behalf as well. When I when I did it last year
1:07:53
and I was a non delegate, that was the two options, I had to
1:07:55
pass my resolution was to either get somebody to Suspend the
1:07:59
rules or convince somebody to be willing to stand up and talk
1:08:03
about it. Now considering that a national
1:08:06
somebody did stand up and talk about it for me because I was
1:08:09
not able to go I probably could have done that option but that's
1:08:14
on the table as well because I know if you're at my State
1:08:19
Convention you can come to me with something and I'll help you
1:08:24
with it no problem because that's what we're here for.
1:08:27
We want We want people to step up and be like, I want to see
1:08:32
this happen in this Union because your voice is the union.
1:08:36
Just as much as it's, my voice, just as much as if anybody's on
1:08:39
this podcast voice, your voice matters, just as much as mine
1:08:43
and all you need to do is apply yourself to this.
1:08:48
Come participate, get involved. See how it goes.
1:08:52
And who knows? Maybe you'll like it and run for
1:08:54
delegate next time. Absolutely.
1:08:56
You know, it's having us. Especially with national.
1:08:59
That's our next big. One here in a month and a half
1:09:03
is a National Convention. James did make delegates.
1:09:07
I am not a delicate. Currently, I have to wait for a
1:09:10
dozen people or so to say that they're not going in order for
1:09:14
me to make delegate, but that's not going to stop me from going.
1:09:17
Obviously, I wasn't a delegate last year to Orlando either.
1:09:20
I was a delegate, however, in Grapevine in 2019 so you know
1:09:25
anything can happen but yeah, just being able to To take it in
1:09:30
and see the process. I definitely recommend going,
1:09:34
even if you don't want to go as a delegate or can't go as a
1:09:36
delegate and if you can afford to go, yes, because that's where
1:09:41
roommates come in handy because especially I'm working on
1:09:47
figuring that out. I do have a roommate for this
1:09:52
year. Same person, I Room do for
1:09:53
state. So we made our plans for for
1:09:56
national And yeah, and I think I was already starting plans for
1:10:01
National for next year as well. It did definitely get involved
1:10:04
if it even if you know, it's only one day that you can go,
1:10:08
you can still get so much information on that one day that
1:10:12
you'll just and you can talk to people too and you can get
1:10:14
further information you know it break times lunch times
1:10:18
afterwards in the morning before it officially starts.
1:10:22
I mean there's just so much information that one can get
1:10:26
even if it's just Just one or, you know, one or two days at
1:10:30
National even or one day, your State Convention and if you can
1:10:33
go to your board meetings to observe, I highly recommend
1:10:37
doing that because that gives you a whole nother perspective
1:10:40
on how things are ran behind the scenes.
1:10:43
Yeah, I know a State Convention people were starting to gather
1:10:46
around at the doors around 6:00 in the morning sitting down in
1:10:49
the chairs talking with each other going over the paperwork
1:10:53
and stuff like that. And you can literally walk up to
1:10:56
anybody. At your convention and start
1:10:59
talking with them about this stuff and they're, I have not
1:11:03
met a single person at my convention.
1:11:06
At least that didn't want to take the time to discuss this
1:11:10
stuff with other people, whether you were a delegate or non
1:11:13
delegate, it didn't matter to them.
1:11:15
They all wanted you to bounce, ideas off each other and learn
1:11:19
from each other, and understand how it all goes together as a
1:11:23
group. And that's the whole point of a
1:11:25
union is for Buddy to get together and basically get on
1:11:30
the same page. So that way our Collective voice
1:11:34
is a lot stronger than a single voice.
1:11:37
Alright guys. So I think we're going to wind
1:11:38
it down here. We're going on an hour and a
1:11:40
half-ish. No, Mike.
1:11:44
Your your last elements for the night?
1:11:48
This peanut, folks just we were talking before the show about
1:11:55
training a new sub and Adele. We just, you know, if you've
1:12:00
been at this for a long time, you know, the, you know, the
1:12:03
steps you need to do to keep yourself safe out there.
1:12:07
Drink water, Frozen water bottles or cooling towels.
1:12:11
Just, just don't let the Heat beat you because I just saw not
1:12:15
not too long ago that we lost another carrier in the heat down
1:12:20
in Texas. So folks take care of yourselves
1:12:24
and do the things. You know, you have to do to beat
1:12:26
the Heat. Josh, this is going to be a
1:12:28
short week. It'll be like Hugh Mondays
1:12:31
because the holidays on Tuesday, but just take it in stride.
1:12:35
Try not to get overwhelmed, you do take a step back, take a deep
1:12:39
breath and step back in there. Have a good week and be safe.
1:12:43
James. Yeah, like we said before the
1:12:46
heat is going to be no joke and it's here to stay for the summer
1:12:50
and it doesn't matter how long it takes you if you need to
1:12:56
seek. Air conditioning specially
1:12:59
people in Lov the specially rural carriers in Eloise or
1:13:03
people who have delivery vehicles that don't have air
1:13:06
conditioning, stop somewhere, get into some AC.
1:13:09
Get in the shade cool yourself off because last year I actually
1:13:14
got heat sickness in an LLB and I was down for two days
1:13:18
afterwards sick and it's no joke and your body never actually
1:13:24
recover from that. I'm still more affected by heat.
1:13:27
Eat now than I was before after being sick from it.
1:13:31
So take care of yourself, take care of your body.
1:13:34
And I know Management's going to get upset at you for having
1:13:39
stationary events, if you're cooling off, but your safety is
1:13:45
more important than their computer program.
1:13:48
So be safe, be smart, take care of yourself, take care of your
1:13:52
body because it's the only one you got and make sure you take
1:13:56
your time. Do it right?
1:13:58
And stay cool out there. Well as a public service
1:14:01
announcement, ladies and gentlemen, when you're going to
1:14:03
have extreme heat, you need to start drinking as soon as you
1:14:08
get up. By the time you realize that
1:14:11
you're having problems with the heat your body cannot process,
1:14:15
the water you're putting in, at that time, you have to build up
1:14:18
your defenses before you go outside.
1:14:21
So please drink before you're exposed to the Heat.
1:14:24
This is years and years of experience as an EMT trust me.
1:14:28
People think that you can sit there and chug fluids.
1:14:32
It does no good. It's already affected you to the
1:14:34
point where you're not going to be able to able to operate
1:14:39
Efficiently in that heat. So do me a favor, start drinking
1:14:43
in the morning, get the fluids into your system.
1:14:46
That's how you see how you build up your ability to sweat or
1:14:49
Spire, which is your way of dealing with the heat, okay?
1:14:53
My time you realize that you're not perspiring and you're
1:14:56
feeling faint, it's a little later.
1:14:58
Okay, go out there, do the best you can like James says, don't
1:15:02
worry about the computer, the nodules kicking off that you're
1:15:06
standing idle somewhere, take care of Cells because you are
1:15:11
the most important delivery of the day.
1:15:13
Get home to your families. Okay.
1:15:15
Do a good job. Be safe.
1:15:17
Protect yourself. Yes.
1:15:19
Thank you Bill. I was just in say with what bill
1:15:23
was saying about starting to drink in the morning, first
1:15:26
thing in the morning, they actually tell us here to start
1:15:30
drinking the night before so it'll be, you know, it'll
1:15:33
already be in your system and you're already starting to be
1:15:36
hydrated. I drink every night.
1:15:38
Yes. Well oh.
1:15:39
Water water is clear liquids. Clear liquids 99 alcoholic.
1:15:48
Yeah no chemicals and avoid sugary drinks and carbonation.
1:15:55
Yes we all just ran a Minecraft. No but now serious guys.
1:16:00
It is July. A lot of us drive those tin cans
1:16:05
on Wheels and Easy-Bake Ovens whatever else you want to call.
1:16:09
Yeah, I was actually the one that was talking about that
1:16:12
before and I've starting to train a new RCA on Wednesday and
1:16:18
looking at my whether it is supposed to be 87 degrees and
1:16:20
I'll be riding in the jump seat. I will be prepared.
1:16:24
I'm actually drinking my fluids now my water, thank you.
1:16:28
No alcohol for me tonight, is it supposed to be in the high 70s
1:16:33
tomorrow but I'll be on that big route.
1:16:35
So hydration is the key. I want everybody to stay safe.
1:16:39
Yeah definitely out there. I you know it with the heat you
1:16:42
know of my newer RCA's is. I mean I'm not a small person by
1:16:46
any means that those who have met me, my other RCA that is
1:16:51
just doing. Absolutely awesome.
1:16:52
Is, is on the larger side and that's I'm always constantly
1:16:58
checking out him management, went out and checked on him the
1:17:00
other day to make sure. You know, here took him out a
1:17:02
cold bottle of water and ice liked, I just told him I see.
1:17:06
No, just make sure you stay hydrated when I went took part
1:17:09
off. Out off of him.
1:17:10
I said you need a Gatorade or water.
1:17:12
I have both. He's like now I got I got like
1:17:15
he had like four bottles of water and for smaller bottles of
1:17:18
Gatorade and you know, he was having to stop intermittently
1:17:22
just to get out of the truck and cool off because it was cooler
1:17:25
outside as we all know. So yeah, I definitely set time
1:17:29
of year people, you know, stay safe, stay hydrated, cooling
1:17:33
towels. If you have a cooling apparatus
1:17:36
that you can take with you and your truck.
1:17:38
Don't forget those Oh, I know. I'm going to go throw some
1:17:41
bottles of water in the freezer here when I get off here
1:17:43
tonight. So on that note, stay safe.
1:17:46
Everybody have a good week. Have a happy safe, Fourth of
1:17:49
July, we don't need anybody. Losing any appendages, lighting
1:17:53
off fireworks there would throw he ha there.
1:17:59
I can tell you, there was an incident, several years ago in
1:18:02
northern Michigan. Where somebody went to light a
1:18:05
firework off, it didn't go off, they went and stood over it.
1:18:09
It, it went off and yes, they lost part of their manhood.
1:18:15
So on that note, stay safe everybody.
1:18:20
Stay hydrated. See, cooler temperatures, if
1:18:24
possible and don't stand over fireworks, if they're not going
1:18:28
off properly, and we will be back next week.