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- 0:30Good evening everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Sports Exchange. In
- 0:33case you missed the Motor City Mad Mouse Show, mister Doozy, I had
- 0:37former Dodgers Vice president general manager Fred Claire on the show. You We talked
- 0:42about everything that you can imagine, let me tell you, so if you
- 0:45get a chance by the South Words YouTube channel, please check it out.
- 0:49Mister Claire. Let tell you there aren't too many subjects that we didn't talk
- 0:53about, so please check it out. Meanwhile, tonight the Sports Exchange and
- 0:57can welcome back to Candy. Thanks Scott. Great to be here. Jb
- 1:00Ellis, welcome back. Pleasure to be here, guys, as we'll be
- 1:04doing. I'm doing all right. And last but not leaves George Iicorn happy
- 1:08all star break everyone, there you go and last you a door he's on.
- 1:12I haven't fail. We have a lively show at Josha Door tonight.
- 1:15Good stuff. Don't worry, Josh, we won't disappoint you with these topics.
- 1:19Mark my word, you'll be able to loosen up enough to make it
- 1:23worth your while to be on tonight. Anyways, let's get rich of the
- 1:26WNBA, which has agreed to a two point two billion dollar rights fee that
- 1:32deals with ESPN, Amazon, and NBC, which will quadruple the league's revenue.
- 1:38The current deal is fifty million. The reported new annual deal right now
- 1:45is going to be two hundred million per season over eleven years and equals two
- 1:49point two billion dollars. And you can rest assure Caitlin Clark had a lot
- 1:53to do with it. All of a sudden, the networks are taking the
- 1:56WNBA seriously, and let's go to the woman that we have in your Candy
- 2:00Ebling. This would have been a good one for making a price to be
- 2:02on, but Candy, well more than happy to have you start off with
- 2:07this one. I mean, I'm glad that people are starting to recognize women's
- 2:12sports. I'm glad that they're starting to pay more attention to it. I'm
- 2:15glad that they're increased. I mean, now that they're seeing these revenue increases,
- 2:23I just hope that equates to what we're paying them as well, because
- 2:28the amount that like Caitlin Clark is earning, granted she gets endorsements and all
- 2:32those other things, but the actual amount that she gets paid to play the
- 2:37game is very minute. They're actually I don't know if if any of you
- 2:43guys know this, but they're actually then she's going to be represented NASCAR team
- 2:47is to use cait and Clark themed car at Brickyard four hundred this weekend as
- 2:52well, so she's going to be represented it on NASCAR as well as So.
- 2:57I mean, it's popular. I'm happy that it's not just one player.
- 3:02It's a couple of players that are, you know, sparking the WNBA
- 3:07for those that love basketball and love women's sports. That's great and I'm excited
- 3:15and happy for him. Well, when you think about the logistics of the
- 3:16deal, you're talking to current deals fifty million dollars and now they're next only
- 3:21going to be two hundred million. I mean, that's a lot. That's
- 3:23a tribute to Caitlin Clark. It has a lot to do with it's all
- 3:27these people that were jealous will get out of there. I mean, the
- 3:30one thing I'd like to see come out of this whole thing is to get
- 3:32paid enough money so they don't have to go overseas and have to supplement their
- 3:36income aka Britney Grinder. I'll turn over to jail. What are your thoughts
- 3:39about the WNBA finally earning a contract that it can feel pretty good about.
- 3:45I think they made a big mistake. Eleven years is a long time if
- 3:50you don't know what's going to happen. If the sport blows up, they're
- 3:53locked in eleven years. Think about how long that is. What were you
- 3:58doing eleven years ago, Scott? Do you remember I've been in this business
- 4:02forty four I can tell you that much. Right, So where were you
- 4:04eleven years ago? Where was the South Florida Tribute? Well that was not
- 4:09in existence, right, you're trying to pin me down. You just did
- 4:12Okay, I mean eleven years is so far you don't know what could happen.
- 4:15They're leaving buddy on the table. The sport's growing. They seemed desperate
- 4:19to do it an eleven year deal. Not the right move, you know,
- 4:24Glad that they finally got some recognition. They'll be out some great networks,
- 4:27but not a smart business decision, especially in the TV climate, to
- 4:31do it eleven year deal. Okay, let's go to the chat room.
- 4:35Candy Walter Mitchell's first one. Well, because that pays a way future expansion,
- 4:41you know, definitely will no doubt about that. They matched up with
- 4:45the NDIA deal. From what I understand, I think it could be wrong.
- 4:46You know. There you go. Walter agrees with Joe. All right,
- 4:49George, you got final word on this one. Yeah, the NBA
- 4:53deal is not totally finalized yet, but I agree JB. I mean,
- 4:57that is an awful long time and obviously they're trying to seize the moment I
- 5:02Candy alluded to with Caitlin Clark and and Angel Reeves and all these great UNBA
- 5:09players we've seen over the last twenty four to thirty six months, three years
- 5:14possibly going back. I mean, they've been working very hard, don't get
- 5:17me wrong, ever since the league book started to get a contract with this
- 5:20magnitude, but it unfortunately has not happened so far. And you're right,
- 5:26I mean, you know, they are gambling a bit because that's an awful
- 5:28long time for a contract to run. But it's also a sign of how
- 5:31far they've come, which you guys talked about earlier, you know, a
- 5:34sign of how far women's basketball and women's sports in general has come. But
- 5:41Walter Walter is correct that NBA's Board of Governors approved the league's nuts media rights
- 5:47deal and it's finalizing it's an eleven year agreement as well. So the NBA
- 5:54and WNBA are both going for eleven year deals, which I agree JB is
- 5:59really long in today's day and age, and with the eleven years, Let's
- 6:05face it, we weren't streaming eleven years ago, and how think quickly things
- 6:10have changed. Eleven years is a long time. Okay, Well, you
- 6:15know we're talking a long time. So guess what We're gonna transition to another
- 6:18long time subject, but not one that Joe Ellis was really particularly likeably,
- 6:23And I'll talk about the New York championship drought that the Rangers eliminated. There
- 6:27have been one hundred combined seasons played by the Rangers, the Islanders, the
- 6:31Knicks, the Nets, the Yankees, the Mets, the Jets, and
- 6:34the Giants, Joe, one hundred years, and you can't get a title
- 6:41in the Big Apple Metropolitan Try what is wrong? Uh dah? Just bad
- 6:47bad general managers, bad coaching, just you know, teams that are trying
- 6:54to win. But there's better teams that have gotten lucky or done the right
- 6:57thing. You know, the Giants or I don't know, I can't even
- 7:00understand what they're doing. The Yankees have haven't learned over the last I guess
- 7:06the House Steinbrenner era over in Queen's at City Field, they would they are
- 7:14trying to do the George Steinbrenner out there, which didn't really work. The
- 7:18Jets of the Jets, I mean, nineteen sixty nine was a long time
- 7:21ago, and I don't know what they did to be such a cursed franchise,
- 7:26so we can't count them for anything. You know, the Nets they
- 7:30tried. You know, they got their Big three Harden, who I don't
- 7:35know what, you know, what kind of workout he was doing that he
- 7:39came in overweight, Kyrie, who is got some sort of mental thing going.
- 7:45And Durant, who can care less except for playing for a winner,
- 7:48but he doesn't know how to build a winner and he just likes to hop
- 7:51around. He really doesn't eat contracts. He should sign ten day contracts throughout
- 7:57the season so we can go to different teams because he has no lawyer.
- 8:00He's a bum. He's always been a bum. Kevin Durant JB underscore the
- 8:05program on Twitter because you're a bum. But what else I have to say
- 8:07about the men? You know, one of the teams have we missed the
- 8:11Islanders. They're trying. They got to do Arena, but it'll be a
- 8:13couple of years before they're good. I don't think I missed anybody, but
- 8:18New York sports is kind of horrible right now. Well, okay, transition.
- 8:24Did I mention Kevin Durant's a bum? Heard that You're welcome to say
- 8:30many times you want, But I knew that topic would get you right in
- 8:35the eyes of Joshua Door Okay, and he would call it a ball buster.
- 8:39This is something that most New Yorkers have to deal with their ballbusters because
- 8:43one hundred years a long time. But anyway, Georgia talks about the situation
- 8:46that's going on in New York unbelievable, really, Scott, I never looked
- 8:50at it that way. With totally all the years of all the teams that
- 8:54have been frustrated by the championship drought. It's really an unreal situation, it
- 9:01really is. And what Joe was talking about, I mean, you had
- 9:03bad management, you had bad coaching, you had some very skeptical fans that
- 9:09are getting a little bit more irate as every season marches on without a title,
- 9:16and it's really hard to believe because being the top city in America,
- 9:22the most populated city, and the one with the most money, usually obviously
- 9:28with Wall Street being right in their backyard. I mean, it's kind of
- 9:31ironic that of all cities in America, New York is the one that has
- 9:35had this drought going one hundred years. Unbelievable. I mean, you might
- 9:41want to throw Walters Common up there to Scott, but he talked about Detroit.
- 9:45I'm not going to throw Detroit up there yet, because, yeah,
- 9:48of George. You know, there comes a point where you're developing in the
- 9:54podcast era. Okay, and Joshua Geordan listening, or any of his other
- 9:58cronies. Okay, Okay, let's stay on the subject, okay, okay.
- 10:01And if I have to go out that and tattoo that to your forehead
- 10:05underneath the chat, I will do that. Tattoos stay oncorn and take that
- 10:13hand off. I know there's enough head around there. Or we'll do it
- 10:16in two lines. Stay on the subject, okay, got nothing else to
- 10:20say about it. You may bring good things to life, but a tattoo
- 10:24sprayer won't be I don't know. Are you allowed to be buried with tattoos
- 10:28with your religion. I think so, I don't think the Jewish people are.
- 10:31But that's not for another that's another fine, and that's okay, Walter,
- 10:37You're all right, it's different. I get to kick around, Icorn.
- 10:39I've only been doing it for forty four years, or what makes you
- 10:41think I'm gonna now you're okay, But now that now that you guys got
- 10:45the cat out of the bag, Okay, there's an awful lot of teams
- 10:48for one hundred years. So does that mean that Aaron Booze gets a little
- 10:52hotter more and the more desperate it is. But don't say anything more,
- 10:58Icorn, You've already brought your Detroit reference up. I'll do it. I'm
- 11:01I'm suspending you for the next ten seconds, okay until I go ahead and
- 11:05made segue. But that said, I'm gonna have Candy give us a station
- 11:07break while you think about what I'm what I just told you. Go ahead,
- 11:11Candy, wait, can I comment on the New York Polly? You
- 11:15comment, and then you give us a station break? But Icorn threw me
- 11:18off again. Stick come ahead, Okay. So the New York market,
- 11:24biggest TV market, biggest revenue, pretty much biggest pockets I mean, let's
- 11:30face it, the New York Mets this season, three hundred and forty two
- 11:33million dollars is their payroll, three hundred and forty two. The next highest
- 11:39is two hundred and forty six. But does that mean money buys championships?
- 11:46Not always now, Some will argue that like in Miami, the Marlins,
- 11:52they bought some championships back in the day. But New York is having a
- 12:00streak of not the best coaching, not the best playing, not the best
- 12:07players playing together. And maybe some of it is attitude, and maybe some
- 12:11of it is pressure, because let's face it, in New York, you
- 12:18you're expected to win. You're expected to win championships. So there's an added
- 12:24layer of pressure, an added layer with the media to do well, and
- 12:28some people don't perform well under pressure. Now I'll do my station identification break.
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- 15:07ats you can find us over at Tribute. So all right, let's go
- 15:11back to Walter up in Detroit. We are on some losing streak, Yeah
- 15:13we are, because Misery Reed does breed company. Let's talk about Chris Silich
- 15:18for a moment. Who took when he took control of the Tigers and the
- 15:20Red Wings. The Tigers are the second worst in MLB the four fifty seven
- 15:24and sixty sixty five. The worst in NHL, second worst, i should
- 15:26say, or actually the second worst is the Tigers, and the worst in
- 15:31the NHL's the Red Wings at two of sixty three thirty one. So when
- 15:33you think about the difference that you have right there, as things haven't been
- 15:37the same between Mike Hillitch and Chris Ilicch and the Red Wings and the Tigers
- 15:43are up some very difficult times. So with that said, mister detroiter,
- 15:46you can talk. Now you've had more than ten seconds to think about what
- 15:48I told you. Let's talk about the illages and the rest of the problems.
- 15:52But before we do that, let's make sure we get the rest of
- 15:54the chat comments up there first. The Lions haven't won anything since fifty seven.
- 15:58Yeah, hopefully they'll change, but they haven't. Last major pro championship
- 16:00here is in two thousand and nine with the Red Wings. And don't forget
- 16:03that they will only go ahead and got to the playoffs twenty five years in
- 16:07a row. I still think that does count for something. Anyway, the
- 16:08only difference in New York has an infinite advantagies at disposal. I'm not going
- 16:15to lie I enjoy the failure of New York City sports. Okay, well
- 16:21it's sure a lot of people your internal to your opinion, that's for sure.
- 16:26And let's see, let's go to Meridi. All right. Top Teler
- 16:30spent on every team to succeed. There's no reason to not win. Well
- 16:33except for coaching. George, I'm here if you need me. Yeah,
- 16:37of course he's doesn't want to see his buddy get ripped, right, go
- 16:41ahead, George. Detroit, well, you know, obviously Detroit, at
- 16:47least professional football wise, is turned the corner. They want a championship.
- 16:49Yes they haven't been to the Super Bowl, but that day is coming.
- 16:53As far as the Red Wings go, I mean, yeah, you know,
- 16:56making the playoffs so that many years in a row and all the Stanley
- 16:59Cups one. But now they've been on our times, as we know,
- 17:03a straight years without even tasting the playoffs. Piston's just complete disaster. Oh
- 17:08gosh. But when you talk about Chris Ilich, there is something that does
- 17:12stand out. He doesn't seem to have the passion of his father. His
- 17:17father was a Detroit Tiger player at one time. Chris is a various tute
- 17:22businessman, he I think he built up his legacy within that family more on
- 17:26the business side. I'm not faulting on him, but I just mean the
- 17:30passion that his father had and his mother to a certain degree with the Red
- 17:33Wings, to me, is not present with young Chris Hillige. So that's
- 17:38all I wanted to add. But yeah, Detroit's been waiting a long time
- 17:41too, I get it, but it still can't doesn't compare to the long
- 17:45wait of one hundred years for the New York teams. All right, Joe,
- 17:51Yeah, I mean, you know, when you think about Detroit,
- 17:53you think about the bad Boys, the Pistage, you think about the Red
- 17:59Wings, which had a nice little dynasty for a while, the eighty four
- 18:02Tigers, and they're finally starting to turn the corner and start to get some
- 18:07good young talent there uh in the baseball at MLB and the Tigers, the
- 18:12Red Wigs. I don't know what's going on with them as much. I
- 18:17don't follow them as much, but I think in the next couple of years
- 18:19they're going to start to rebound. The Pistons though they just can't seem to
- 18:23figure it out. You know, they've had top picks. It's been horrible
- 18:27for the last few years. I don't know what it's going to take for
- 18:32that team to to come back and you know, become relevant again, because
- 18:37you know, it's a shame. It's a hard working community, it's a
- 18:41hard working city, and they just they're just there, you know, they're
- 18:45just they're not giving it the effort that they should. I think, Candy,
- 18:51Okay, So I'm gonna tell you, guys, what surprised me is
- 18:56I saw a stay that says for the Tigers. Last year, your revenue
- 19:03was three hundred and six million dollars for the Tigers. Your payroll this year
- 19:10is one hundred and eighteen million, which is only thirty eight point six percent
- 19:15of the revenue from last year. You according to MLB, out of the
- 19:22thirty teams, that puts you twenty seventh place percentage wise, of the revenue
- 19:30you guys made last year, what you're spending on payroll this year, what
- 19:37I'm gonna what I'm gonna say is I'm gonna blame a lot of it on
- 19:41your gms, because honestly, I don't think we give enough credit to the
- 19:47gms that can put together really good teams. And part of it is the
- 19:52owner that pays for that GM. The success that Green Bay has had a
- 19:59lot lot of it is attributed to Ron Wolf. You know, if you
- 20:03look at it, the really good gms really know how to pick players.
- 20:10And you've got to some of the teams that don't have the payroll in the
- 20:14expense expense that a lot of other teams do, they've got to rely on
- 20:18hitting on all your draft picks. And so I think a lot of it
- 20:23is that. A lot of it is also your coaching staff getting your players
- 20:30to play together cohesively as a team, because these are all team sports,
- 20:34not individual sports. And I think that matters too and makes a big difference.
- 20:42Well said Well, Troy Weaver was awful. Monni Williams unfortunately last and
- 20:48only one year. I think he could have gotten it done in ear two
- 20:51or three with better players. But the reality of situation is you don't finish
- 20:55fourteen and sixty eight worse than you did when you only wont sixteen games.
- 20:59And Tom Gores right now is getting to the point where that honeymoon period is
- 21:02over. He knows he needs to put together a winner. So when you
- 21:04have that combination going against you doesn't work well. Alavilla had a nineteen million
- 21:10year rebuilding program, traded every good player on the planet, and that's why
- 21:14they were behind, you know, the Red Wings. I give him a
- 21:17cup of a little bit more slack. Ken Allen did a good job with
- 21:18him. Steve Weiserman is just trying to clean up the mess in the Lions
- 21:22under Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes. There's no question that they're making progress.
- 21:26So albeit there having a little difficult time right now. I see the Red
- 21:32Wings getting in the playoffs next year. The Lions can only hope that there's
- 21:36really not a major letdown coming in the next year, because you always hope
- 21:40that they don't read the clippings, but I don't think there will be.
- 21:41I think they're in much much better shape now than they were. You know,
- 21:47the Red Wings were so close to getting in the playoffs, that's the
- 21:48whole thing. It wasn't for an overtime one too many overtime wins and not
- 21:55over regulation win, they would have been in the playoffs and that drought was
- 22:00being done. So I do feel good about where they're headed. But again,
- 22:03like you guys have all reiterated, you know, when you don't have
- 22:07front offices and ownership on the same page. And the Odors aren't making the
- 22:11right moves. That's a recipe for disaster, that's for sure. Well,
- 22:15you know what, now that we've gone out there and talked about the droughts,
- 22:19let's talk about something that's really good in women's sports. And now I'm
- 22:23not talking about the WNBA. I'm talking about something a little bit better than
- 22:29that. Kudos to Marny Marnie m A. R n Y Gellner, who
- 22:33became the first woman to call play by play in Minnesota Twins team history,
- 22:37and she did it against the White Sox. Well, let's turn to the
- 22:41woman that we have here, Candy A playing, and let's give me your
- 22:44thoughts about Marnie Gellner. I don't know a lot about Marnie, but I
- 22:49mean you're hearing more and more how women are starting to do play by play
- 22:53and getting into the game. Kudos because again, I mean again, why
- 23:03are we talking about this, Like, why is it a thing? It
- 23:06should be norm The best person for the job should get it, whether it's
- 23:10a woman or a female. Both know the game. The game is the
- 23:15same. Growing up, if you play baseball, you would know it as
- 23:18long as you know the history and can tell good stories, good for you,
- 23:22Like if she's great. I've never listened to her, I'll be honest.
- 23:27My favorite is Bob Buker without a doubt. But I'm partial and biased
- 23:33to you know, my team. And But do I ever think women will
- 23:38play in the MLB? I actually think so, Adam, because there is
- 23:44women now starting to play in men in college football, and that's a more
- 23:51contact sport. So I would think MLB would could be easier and more accepting
- 23:56of women playing in MELB. There you go, Okay, go ahead,
- 24:04door dog check. There. You got to give them a dog check one
- 24:10o one. Uh hey, listen, you know we talked about it on
- 24:15one hundred and eight stitches. I'm happy for her. I don't know much
- 24:18about her either, but it's it's one of those areas that it just taken
- 24:22a long long time to kind of crack that barrier, if you will.
- 24:27The other one is Major League Baseball, you know, and that's another thing
- 24:32is the umpiring. You know, we've had female officials, but for some
- 24:36reason, they they they've had them in spring training, but they never promoted
- 24:40a female to the staff. I think they should do that also, But
- 24:44yeah, there's a lot of qualified lady announcers and lady broadcasters and you know
- 24:49sportscasters. They do a great job with anchoring. They do a fantastic job
- 24:53as sideline reporters. Uh, they've been going back to Phyllis George. They've
- 24:57been part of the U panel, if you will, on the Pro football
- 25:02pregame shows and stuff. So I'm happy for her in Minnesota. The Twins
- 25:07seem to have made a nice move to do that, and I'm only hoping
- 25:11that it becomes more common instead of us having to talk about being a one
- 25:18off, you know, and that she did something that you know, nobody
- 25:21else did, at least in Minneapolis. So yeah, I'm happy for Scott
- 25:25too, all right, Joe, I like this comment by Adam losing It.
- 25:29You know, I would like to see a female head coach a female
- 25:30own player next two years. You know what, Adam, there was a
- 25:33thought thought I actually had. I thought Jackie Hammond would break the barrier and
- 25:37become the first head coach in the NBA, but it didn't work out.
- 25:42She took the Las Vegas stations. But you know what, I wouldn't be
- 25:45surprised if that happens, and then that two, three, four or five
- 25:48years at a great point though, all right, go ahead, Joe,
- 25:51Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of over this topic. It's twenty twenty
- 25:55four. You know, the best person for the job as well that she'd
- 25:59get it. She's obviously the best person the twins, but she was best
- 26:03and most qualified for the job. Women, could, you know, talk
- 26:07about sports just as good as men. Candy is one of the best that
- 26:11I've worked with. I have no problem saying that Candy is a woman,
- 26:14you know, so it's self explanatory if you know. It's great that we
- 26:19recognize it. But at the same time, it's not something we should even
- 26:22have to recognize. If you're the best for the position, that's what it
- 26:26should be. You know. I'm glad for the woman, Martie, you
- 26:30know, I'm sure you know she should be proud that she got there.
- 26:33It's groundbreaking, but at the same time, we're at a point where it
- 26:37shouldn't be groundbreaking, so correct I agree, And I'll tell you this too.
- 26:41Marnie Gellner in Minnesota, she's something I'll tell you what. She's well
- 26:48liked and well known there, so her credibility is unbelievable. Excuse me.
- 26:53So that said, Okay, we're gonna stay. This topic is designed for
- 26:59candy. And now I'll tell you what I noticed this here out there.
- 27:03I couldn't believe how many coaches that the Milwaukee Bucks and employed when it comes
- 27:10to assistant coaches. If Doc Rivers isn't under pressure, now I don't know
- 27:15what the heck pressure is. So bear with me for a second. Okay,
- 27:19here's the coaching staff of the Milwaukee Bucks under Doc Rivers. Darvin Ham,
- 27:26well, yeah, I was upon a time he was there with the
- 27:29Lakers, Greg Buckner, Dave Jordery previous head coach. Then you have Rex
- 27:34calming me in, Joe PRUTTI, Vin Baker. Now I'll tell you what
- 27:38if you're Vin Baker was a heck of a player. I used to like
- 27:41watching him. Pete Dimiguez, So that'll be a crowded bench. So those
- 27:45are all your assistant coaches. Now, if you want some other assistant coaches.
- 27:51For assistant coaches, you got Jack Carron. They had a player development
- 27:56Jason Love player development, and then they have Spencer Rivers clear development. Oh
- 28:00my goodness, how many coaches can you have? Joe that's a lot.
- 28:06Yeah, I mean, more power to them if they want to have that
- 28:10many people in the coaching staff. I don't think it's necessary, but if
- 28:15you know, they feel that they're going to get the most having all those
- 28:18people you know, on the bench or in the organization helping, as long
- 28:23as they can effectively use all of them to make the team better. But
- 28:27it all starts with you know, Doc Glenn Rivers, who has proven he's
- 28:33not not the best coach in the NBA, that he's not good to the
- 28:37playoffs when it counts that you know, he's going to be holding that team
- 28:41back. So you know, maybe get rid of him and elevate one of
- 28:44the thirty five million assistant coaches and they'll have a better shot. Hey,
- 28:48Joe, I was just amazed that they had that many coaches. I'm thinking,
- 28:52you know, that is a lot. That's insane. Seven regular assistants
- 28:59or I don't know tone at that point yet. Seven plus three equals ten.
- 29:03Yeah, that's a general math question one that I can handle, that
- 29:04doesn't require a calculator, but still ten, that's a lot. I mean,
- 29:08and you know, well you go five, Remember starting lineup was five
- 29:12and then you have five deep? Is there? Am I missing something in
- 29:15her mind? Forget about it all, right, George Iichhorn, Well,
- 29:18I'll tell you what that is a lot of coaches and that it's just exploded,
- 29:22you know, and not only in the NBA but also Major League Baseball.
- 29:26Noticed so many coaches on these rosters, on these clubs. But yeah,
- 29:32I mean, you can have as many coaches as you want, but
- 29:33if you still can't win, or you still can't get to the Promised Land,
- 29:37then something's wrong. I mean we saw them they you know, they
- 29:41swept Phoenix in the first round, the Bucks did, and then they struggled
- 29:45mightily. They almost lost the Denver series. They came back with two wins
- 29:48at the at the tail end of that series, and then they made it
- 29:52to the conference finals, and we all remember what happened against Dallas. One
- 29:56win, four losses. So I agree with you. I was cutting him
- 30:00a little bit more slack, probably than I should have when we talked about
- 30:03Rivers after he was hired by Milwaukee, because I remember we talked about him
- 30:08at great length on one of the shows. But no, I'm with you
- 30:12guys now on that. I mean, he's not seems to be the right
- 30:15person at all to get a team far, far deep into the playoffs and
- 30:18into the into the championship round, if you will, the finals. So
- 30:22yeah, a lot of coaches, and obviously you got to hit more than
- 30:26just coaches. You got to have talent and leadership on that floor. And
- 30:30that's where I think Milwaukee has to find tune to get a little bit better
- 30:33in those departments. Okay, let's go to the chat room here, Walter
- 30:37Mitchell, Kennedy, this interest one from JB. Okay, Walter Mitchell.
- 30:41The problem is some of us still have neanderthal feelings. Remember that lady that
- 30:45just the assistant coach of the cracking people hated, not even looking at her
- 30:49resume. I mean, okay, you want you have an answer to that.
- 30:53It's a shape. It's like that. I mean, you know,
- 30:56it's and it's not just with females and sports. It's with race, it's
- 31:02with religion. It's twenty twenty four all people. I guarantee you, if
- 31:07any one of us gets cut, it's red. We all breathe oxygen,
- 31:11you know, we all we're all very much more similar than we are different,
- 31:15and we have to start just getting over all of that and then we'll
- 31:19be okay. Enough, all right, Candy, So says your team to
- 31:23Milwaukee bumps, what's your answer to all these coaches? It doesn't matter how
- 31:30many coaches you have. The coaches don't play the game. It depends on
- 31:36who what team you feel on that court, the talent you have, the
- 31:41talent that plays together. And I'll be honest with you, how injury prone
- 31:47are those players, because that's really what's been biting the Bucks lately. As
- 31:55far as coaches go. The annual salaries for NBA coaches, they get as
- 31:59high as three eighty seven and as low as fifteen thousand. On a night
- 32:04on the bench, can only be head coach and a maximum of three assistants,
- 32:07whether they're coaches or trainers or anything like that. So having all those
- 32:13coaches fine, but it's really about the talent that you put on the field
- 32:19and how well. And I've said this for a long time that I've thought
- 32:22a lot of the Milwaukee teams have gotten a lot of injuries, and so
- 32:29I think the training staff has to do a better job of keeping them out
- 32:32on the field. I just read that Chris Middleton had surgery on both of
- 32:39his ankles during the offseason. Now he's supposed to be ready for the start
- 32:44of the next season, but he's only played in an average of eighty six
- 32:47games this last year, and it used to be higher than that. They
- 32:52traded away the Bucks again, I will say and say this till I'm blue
- 32:58in the flight face. They traded away Drew Holliday, and he was the
- 33:01defensive guru on that team, on that championship team that really helped gel them
- 33:07together and played defense. And the Bucks really lacked that defense last year.
- 33:14And there's an old saying that says defense wins championships. Well, all I
- 33:22can tell you is this Doc Rivers doesn't survive. You have a couple of
- 33:25potential replacements on the bench in Darmnham, and you have one of Dave Jorger.
- 33:30Now, a little defensive note that just found out today is that Patrick
- 33:34Beverly is society. Instead of playing for Houston and Detroit for the league minimum
- 33:37or wherever they can get him, He's gonna play in Israel. So enjoy
- 33:42the matza, enjoy all the chop liver, and enjoy the amenities out in
- 33:46Israel. It's okay, Patrick Beverley. You might even be able to gain
- 33:51a lot more subscribers to your podcast as what you could do out there,
- 33:53although they're gonna have to figure out how to do it in Israel. And
- 33:57I wouldn't even begin to advise you because I struggled with the languages that I
- 34:00do. I've never even packed the foreign language. But still, but as
- 34:04far as the Bucks are concerned, the biggest thing that they have to have
- 34:07come postseason. Giannis and it the couple must finally stay healthy in the post
- 34:12season period. One minute, one year is missing in this Melley Games.
- 34:15This year is missing. Come on, honest, stay on the court.
- 34:19Okay, we can't sit here looking to put people around you when you're not
- 34:22playing during the playoffs. You know they need to. During the regular season,
- 34:25the numbers have always been good. You got your championships. You don't
- 34:29have to worry about anybody putting in the classifications of all the players that don't
- 34:32have one. But they need you in the postseason they do. And until
- 34:37Giannis and It's the couple can stay healthy in the postseason. Fine, now,
- 34:42Doc Rivers, you don't have any more excuses to not win. You
- 34:45got enough help, I mean, my goodness, if you ain't not have
- 34:47that many people on the bench during the game. You have enough people in
- 34:51the gym to make sure everybody can shoot free throws of whatever you got these
- 34:54brought in for so is if dock River's seat wasn't hot, I'd say it
- 35:00boiling hot right now. And because the Milwaukee Bucks are showing a lot of
- 35:05faith that you can hire all the assistance you want, you better win.
- 35:07And that's all there is to it. Now. You just started a new
- 35:10segment which I'm really having a lot of fun with. It's called her non
- 35:15sports related subject. Nobody sees this here, so nobody knows, okay,
- 35:21but I have one that Candy Eveling is definitely gonna get be familiar with.
- 35:24And I'm gonna bring her on last. Okay, I'm gonna start off with
- 35:28Joe Ellis Okay, a Florida man faces a felony robbery charge after attempts to
- 35:35withdraw one cent. I said one cent, folks, okay from a bank
- 35:40and sub Kirk County. The name is Michael Fleming. What do you say
- 35:44that, Joe? One cent? You got a penny in your pocket?
- 35:46Really? So he tried to withdraw a penny and he's got felony what charges?
- 35:52Yeah, got a pelony charge. I'm trying to charge them for a
- 35:55pelony charge just for with. I don't know if there's some stupid publicities under
- 36:00whether this is real, but it was real enough to get it on this
- 36:02boarding change. And what do they have a pelony for a penny? What
- 36:06us wrong with Florida? Well, seriously, what is wrong with the state
- 36:09of Florida? That's all I can say. I don't have that much of
- 36:13time to tell you. They've already spent more than what the whole penny was
- 36:17worth once they arrested him, and now we haven't got into the court cost,
- 36:22the lawyer costs, and if they incarcerate the bed, that's tax money
- 36:30for the one set. I'm done. Yeah, but you know what you
- 36:37just got started because you probably gave the answer that ninety nine point nine percent
- 36:42of this civilized rule with them up with. But you know what we always
- 36:45try to do, Joe, as we always talk about in the book,
- 36:47we got to come up with something different. And it's our job to report
- 36:51the news, whether we like it or you don't, right, jo,
- 36:52Yeah, in that journalism one O one of course, Okay, all right,
- 36:57George, you know what, what are your thoughts about the penny felony?
- 37:00The penny felony stinks to high heaven. I'm sorry this there's no place
- 37:05for that kind of you know. I mean, I I can see if
- 37:07somebody's trying to have some fun and getting the you know, getting drawing the
- 37:10ire of the bank employees or something like that. I don't know if he
- 37:14had something playing like that is to try to get his name in the news.
- 37:17Although that's a better way to get your name in the news, I
- 37:21guess than obviously some other violent criminals, so with the way of what things
- 37:24they do. But that's for another day. But no, I don't understand
- 37:28it. I I just you know, it's so funny, but it's ridiculous.
- 37:32But and yet it just is a is the craziest thing Scott and guys
- 37:37and Candy. This is just to sound so stupid, like you said,
- 37:42GB, wasting all the time and energy on and now you're far far in
- 37:45the negative category. What it's costing the powers that be crazy? Well,
- 37:52if anybody was on inside the pitch in last night, you know, I
- 37:54never thought i'd see the day where I'd be talking about Flip Wilson and Nipsey
- 37:59Russell. But when Jeremy Bulbrick is out there telling me that he can't come
- 38:01on our show on Thursday because he's got a date, and that everybody,
- 38:07all of the co hosts here are having a lot of fun. Way over
- 38:09works out well for you, Jeremy Balrick at all. We're having a blast
- 38:14of this guy. You know, we wish we love Jeremy. Don't get
- 38:16me wrong. If you want to take the night off for a date,
- 38:19we hope it works out. And you know what, the one thing I've
- 38:22always learned, you know, you gotta be crazy, you gotta be different,
- 38:25and we need to maintain a sense of humor. And that one cent
- 38:29penny penny to me, felony is interesting. But we'll go to somebody it's
- 38:34a bit more familiar with the banking industry. Candy. So he walks in,
- 38:42fills out a withdrawal slip for a penny, walks up to the teller.
- 38:47Teller says he can't withdraw the penny. He says, so you want
- 38:52me to say the other word, Flembing told the bank teller. According to
- 38:55the rest report, no other details are out there except that deputies said the
- 39:00bank teller was in fear of possible violence, so he might have acted very
- 39:07aggressively that you guys don't know. And so they actually said when the deputies
- 39:16were there that they felt there was probable cause to feel that he was violating
- 39:23Florida's robbery laws, and so that's why he was He actually was arrested.
- 39:30He was a forty one year old man. He remains on five thousand dollars
- 39:35bond as of a couple days ago. There are so many crazy people in
- 39:40this world. And yes, you guys don't have and I shouldn't say don't
- 39:47have a clue, but the reality is, who in their right mind is
- 39:54going to walk into a bank and give a withdrawal slip for a p like
- 40:00you can't do anything with a penny. You're doing that to be rude,
- 40:06joking if you're trying to joke, but it really isn't funny. And as
- 40:10somebody that works inside a bank, I can see where Now I wouldn't necessarily
- 40:17have taken it to this level, but obviously maybe he was aggressive and maybe
- 40:22he was talking aggressively and his body language. There are so many crazy people
- 40:30in this world that you have to be careful because the slightest wrong thing that
- 40:36you say, you don't know. If he didn't have a gun in his
- 40:40with him, you don't know what he might go do. Like if you
- 40:45say the wrong thing, he might walk out, go get a gun and
- 40:47come back. Like there are so many different things that set people off and
- 40:55vice versa. So do I think I think walking into a bank for a
- 41:01penny is something that should be a felony. No, but what else transposed
- 41:09that could? Very well? She could whoever the bank teller was could could
- 41:15have been trying to protect her and others because you don't know who else was
- 41:20around as well, because if he was getting violent and getting you know,
- 41:23abusive, who knows what he could have done. Well, we don't have
- 41:30to footage on it. But you know what, anytime I see interesting stuff
- 41:32right there, you know, that's why we have a comment session, That's
- 41:36why we have emails, and that's why when we come up with stuff like
- 41:39this as off the wall, and you know, I wish we had more
- 41:43opportunities to do more newsworthy stuff. The problem I don't like about doing a
- 41:46lot of newsworthy stuff is the reason why I tune local news off is I'm
- 41:51sick and tired of seeing who was killed here and all that business. So
- 41:54if I could go out there and find anything out of journalism that's a little
- 41:59bit different, to bring it to the forefront. That's only the reason why
- 42:01I incorporate these different topics. But I don't watch local news. I haven't
- 42:06in a long time. And you know what, again, we have our
- 42:08sources to get information. And as Marshall mccluan would say, and I mentioned
- 42:14in the book, the medium is a message, and every now and then
- 42:17I'm using the medium as a message to talk about an athal long news story.
- 42:21So we can get comments from other people that might have different opinions.
- 42:23But at least on this one, we knew Candy had a little bit more
- 42:27information or insight on it than we did. So that said, we do
- 42:30have time for parting shots. Candy, do you have any parting shots?
- 42:36I have give me a minute, come back to circle back, I George,
- 42:38you have a parting shot. Yeah. Hats off to Joe Davis and
- 42:45John Smoltz and the team at Fox Sports very well put together All Star broadcast
- 42:51last night, very very exciting. And also I got to hats off to
- 42:54to the Texas Rangers. My goodness, I don't think I've ever was going
- 42:59to see a day outside of protecting the outfield from having a riot. So
- 43:05if you win a championship with horseback, but those horses coming on the field
- 43:08to the America League flag, the National League flag, that was so cool,
- 43:13and the and the different cowboys are doing their rope tricks. So hats
- 43:15off Texas. You did a great job down there, a great, great
- 43:19All Star game. So JB have any parting shots. So in a few
- 43:25weeks we're gonna be going and having the twenty twenty four Olympics. The mayor
- 43:32of Paris took a swim in the river, which they claim is cleaned up.
- 43:40They've been working on cleaning it for many years at this point, but
- 43:46recent test show it's actually not safe to swim in the river. But the
- 43:52mayor has decided that he was going to go ahead it swim in the river
- 43:54to show everybody that it was, you know, safe. You know,
- 43:59the Olympic Committee needs to step in make sure that the river is safe to
- 44:05swim in. Now put athletes health at risk for an opportunity that you know,
- 44:10these athletes will do whatever it takes to compete. So it's your job
- 44:15as the Olympic Committee to protect the athletes that would do anything to compete in
- 44:21your events and find a safe location. And you know, to me,
- 44:25that's just something that needs to be done as soon as possible. Have an
- 44:30alternative to it, because you can't have athletes travel, you know, and
- 44:37they're they're not going to sit out if if they you know, if it's
- 44:42whitewashing and said, oh it's it's safe, but it's really not safe.
- 44:45They're not going to sit out. They're not going to have their own tests.
- 44:47They're not going to look at the water and say, I don't like
- 44:50the way it looks. Some going to sit out of this. They're going
- 44:52to compete because they all want to win, and you know, you've got
- 44:54to got to protect them in the situation. So this needs to be done
- 44:58relatively soon in fun to find an alternative location. Well done, Kenny.
- 45:04You have a party shot, my parting shot. And this is not political,
- 45:09but there is no room for violence at any political event. I don't
- 45:16care who was there, what you believe in the attempt at the assassination is
- 45:27uncalled for and I'm sorry I know we don't talk politics, but there is
- 45:31no room for violence at any of these. Everyone has a right to speak,
- 45:37freedom of speech. You have a right to your opinion. You have
- 45:40a right to be at an event supporting who you want to support. And
- 45:46it is just so sad that innocent lives were lost because someone decided to take
- 45:54a shot. All set, only two comments I want to have tonight or
- 46:00number one, I want to thank Fred Claire for being my guest on the
- 46:02MotorCity man Mouth Show. Folks, this is the old time of a baseball
- 46:07conversation as you can get with a guy who won a World Series with the
- 46:12Dodgers and has been a part of baseball for ages and ages. And we
- 46:16talked about El Campanis and that Nightline interview as well as some important issues about
- 46:22you know, minorities in the sport and all that. So if you get
- 46:27a chance on the Southward the Trout YouTube channel, please watch that interview.
- 46:30It's a good one. The only other comment I have, mister Allie says,
- 46:34I hope you have a good time out in Alaska. I've been there,
- 46:37didn't take the cruise, okay, but Alasta is a great place.
- 46:39One of these days. I'll take it Candy on the Alaskan Cruise. I
- 46:43hope you and Debbie have a wonderful time out in Alaska. I know you're
- 46:45gonna have a wonderful time. It's one of the greatest states I've been in.
- 46:49So go out there and we look forward to CD in two weeks from
- 46:52now. Thank you. I appreciate it. So meanwhile, with that said,
- 46:55that conclude this edition of the Sports of Change. But okay, do
- 47:00you want to take over? No, I was just gonna say, we
- 47:02won't be on in two weeks. We'll be on next week, but the
- 47:06week after we will be traveling back ourselves. Right, Okay, well,
- 47:09so we will be on next week, Okay, but two weeks we will
- 47:14be off. All right, make sure we get our travel schedules. Drink.
- 47:16But that said, joelis let everyone know how to get old yet JB
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- 51:45Megan and I talked a lot of WNBA. We talked a little bit
- 51:49about the All Star Game. The WNBA has their All Star Game this weekend.
- 51:54They have Friday is their shoot around the I'm trying to think Saturday is
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- 52:06and Sauce as well. All right, Well that does it for this edition
- 52:10of the Sports Exchange on behalf of Caneablane, George Icorn, J b Ellis.
- 52:14My name is Scott Morgaro, thank you, thank you for joining us.
- 52:16We will be back on the Sports Exchange next week and I'll have a
- 52:22I'll have another guest on. I'll inform people of that later on once it
- 52:25is officially confirmed, and then JB. Ellis will have his regular seat when
- 52:29he gets back from Alaska. So once again, JB, you and Deb
- 52:32have a great time. Thank you everybody much for joining us. We appreciate
- 52:37all the activity in the chat room. Walter Mitchell you were you were our
- 52:40number one star of the night. Thank you very much Walter for contributing.
- 52:44Toodnight. Everybody, say you next week. Good night,