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Attack of the Killer Soundtrack: Spinning Records with Pinhead · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 4: evacuation of the vicinity. The Coast Guard and the Navy
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  Speaker 4: have been alerted and are standing by on the eastern seaboard.
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  Speaker 7: 2,000 National Guardsmen are standing by.
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  Speaker 10: Air defense warning read.
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  Speaker 11: It's time for Movie Meltdown's Attack of the Killers soundtrack.
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  Speaker 4: The live transmission has begun, and we're into the final
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  Speaker 4: hour of hell.
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  Speaker 12: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown's Attack of the
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  Speaker 12: Killers soundtrack. I'm Brian and this week we'll be sitting
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  Speaker 12: down with a very special guest. And in the process
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  Speaker 12: we'll be talking a little bit about movies, a lot
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  Speaker 12: about music, and as always we'll be building our own
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  Speaker 12: Frankenstein-like soundtrack that is all over the map. And to me,
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  Speaker 12: that's a good thing. So in this episode, I'm going
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  Speaker 12: to be joined by one of my semi-regular co-hosts, Sterling,
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  Speaker 12: as we head back to our most recent visit to
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  Speaker 12: Fright Night Film Fest here in Louisville. And while we
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  Speaker 12: had fun and talked with a lot of interesting people
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  Speaker 12: that weekend, I have to say possibly the most impressive
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  Speaker 12: moment was our conversation with Doug Bradley. Now, most of
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  Speaker 12: you out there probably know Doug from his role as
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  Speaker 12: Pinhead in the series of Hellraiser films, but he's certainly
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  Speaker 12: more than that anyway. He's an actor that struck out
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  Speaker 12: on his own after high school and was working in
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  Speaker 12: fringe theater and and has gone on to a long
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  Speaker 12: and varied career on both stage and screen. But I've
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  Speaker 12: noticed over the years, every time you see an interview
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  Speaker 12: with him, they're always talking to him about horror. They're
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  Speaker 12: always asking him about playing Pinhead. So when I saw
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  Speaker 12: he was going to be there that weekend, I thought,
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  Speaker 12: number one, how sick he must be of talking about
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  Speaker 12: that same role. I mean, I know it comes with
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  Speaker 12: the territory when you have a successful character or property,
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  Speaker 12: but still, it's gotta get old. And then secondly, I thought...
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  Speaker 12: how interesting would it be to talk with him about
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  Speaker 12: something completely different? I mean, in general on this show,
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  Speaker 12: I usually try to get past the standard Q &
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  Speaker 12: A kind of questions and hopefully get to a point
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  Speaker 12: of somewhat normal conversation to sort of get a glimpse
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  Speaker 12: of people as they really are. But specifically as I
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  Speaker 12: approached this, I was like, what if we went an
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  Speaker 12: entirely different direction with Doug Bradley? Now, I thought I'd
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  Speaker 12: heard that he was kind of a music fan, so
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  Speaker 12: I was like, What if we sit down with this
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  Speaker 12: iconic horror actor and forego the usual talk about slasher
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  Speaker 12: movies and hours spent in the makeup chair and just
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  Speaker 12: took a 180 degree turn and just talk about music?
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  Speaker 12: So I threw the idea out there to him and
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  Speaker 12: he seemed somewhat willing, but I don't think even he
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  Speaker 12: knew how far we would delve into this other part
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  Speaker 12: of his personal interest. And I definitely didn't know beforehand
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  Speaker 12: just how passionate he was about music and more impressive,
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  Speaker 12: just how knowledgeable he is in that area as well.
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  Speaker 12: So with that, we've got a lot to cover with Doug,
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  Speaker 12: so let's just get into it. We'll start things off
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  Speaker 12: here with His Killer Five, and some people may have
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  Speaker 12: just stopped there, but we don't get that with Doug.
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  Speaker 12: At that point, we spiral off into a personal history
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  Speaker 12: of his experiences with music, and then just a general
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  Speaker 12: sampling of his current musical taste. And as Doug is
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  Speaker 12: building the soundtrack for us, I'm going to go through
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  Speaker 12: and sort of lay out the tracks as we go along.
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  Speaker 12: So let's go there now, as Sterling and I sit
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  Speaker 12: down and talk with Doug Bradley.
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  Speaker 11: It's time for the kill of five.
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  Speaker 12: Well, again, you've gone on about Hellraiser more than you
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  Speaker 12: needed to. So I was going to give you a
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  Speaker 12: chance to talk about something else. I've heard you're a
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  Speaker 12: pretty big music fan, and we do sort of a
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  Speaker 12: subsection where we will let people pick songs from films
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  Speaker 12: that they really like. So I didn't know if there were, like,
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  Speaker 12: We usually have them pick five, and it doesn't have
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  Speaker 12: to be your favorite. It's just songs that work really
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  Speaker 12: well in films over the years. So pretty much any genre,
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  Speaker 12: however you want to do it. But if you can
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  Speaker 12: just think of a few that.
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  Speaker 7: Embedded into films?
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  Speaker 12: Or in the soundtrack, or just kind of made use
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  Speaker 12: of in the film itself.
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  Speaker 7: Or as title songs?
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  Speaker 12: It can be, yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Okay.
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  Speaker 13: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: Bond springs to mind very quickly.
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  Speaker 12: Definitely.
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  Speaker 7: I think Diamonds Are Forever is my favorite.
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  Speaker 14: Diamonds are forever.
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  Speaker 15: They are all I need to please me.
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  Speaker 16: They can stimulate and tease me.
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  Speaker 14: They won't leave in the night.
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  Speaker 16: I've no fear that they might desert me. Diamonds are
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  Speaker 16: forever Hold one up.
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  Speaker 6: And then caress it Touch it, stroke it and undress
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  Speaker 6: it I can see every part Nothing hides.
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  Speaker 14: In the heart to hurt me I don't need love.
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  Speaker 15: For what good will love do me?
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  Speaker 16: Diamonds never lie to me.
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  Speaker 17: For when love's gone.
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  Speaker 5: They'll last a while.
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  Speaker 16: Diamonds are forever Sparkling.
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  Speaker 18: Brown my little finger Unlike men, the diamonds linger Men
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  Speaker 18: are mere mortals Who are not worth going to your
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  Speaker 18: grave for.
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  Speaker 19: I don't need love.
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  Speaker 17: But what good will love do me?
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  Speaker 16: Diamonds never lie to me. But when love's gone, they
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  Speaker 16: last forever. Diamonds are forever, forever, forever. Diamonds are forever, forever, forever, forever.
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  Speaker 17: And ever.
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  Speaker 7: There's obviously, there are so many moments that you'll never
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  Speaker 7: forget of Kubrick was a master at it. Putting We'll
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  Speaker 7: Meet Again over the guy riding the nuclear bomb at
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  Speaker 7: the end of Dr. Strangelove is a great moment.
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  Speaker 9: We'll meet again.
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  Speaker 20: Don't know where, don't.
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  Speaker 21: Know when, but I know we'll meet again some sunny day.
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  Speaker 22: Keep smiling through, just like you.
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  Speaker 9: Always do till the blue skies drive the dark clouds
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  Speaker 9: far away so will you please say hello to the
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  Speaker 9: folks that i know tell them.
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  Speaker 5: I won't be long.
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  Speaker 9: They'll be happy to know That as you saw me
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  Speaker 9: go I was singing this song.
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  Speaker 5: We'll meet again.
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  Speaker 21: Don't know when Don't know when But I know we'll
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  Speaker 21: meet again Some sunny.
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  Speaker 22: Day We'll meet again Don't know where, don't know when.
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  Speaker 23: But I know we'll meet again Some sunny.
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  Speaker 22: Day Keep smiling.
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  Speaker 23: Through Just like you always do till the blue skies
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  Speaker 23: find the dark clouds far away. So will you please
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  Speaker 23: say hello To the folks.
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  Speaker 17: That I know Tell them I won't be long.
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  Speaker 23: They'll be happy to know That as you slowly grow
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  Speaker 23: I will sing in this song We'll meet.
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  Speaker 14: Again Don't know.
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  Speaker 7: Where But he was brilliant at that, putting the Blue
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  Speaker 7: Danube Waltz over the space stations in 2001. singing in
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  Speaker 7: the rain in Clockwork Orange you're not going to forget
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  Speaker 7: that in a hurry do not forsake me oh my
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  Speaker 7: darling in High Noon.
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  Speaker 12: Oh yeah go wrong.
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  Speaker 7: You hear that and you just see those empty streets
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  Speaker 7: with Gary Cooper walking down in the middle of it.
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  Speaker 1: Do not forsake me oh my darling On this our
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  Speaker 1: wedding day Do not forsake me.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my darling.
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  Speaker 1: Wait Wait long.
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  Speaker 3: The noonday train will bring Frank Miller. If I'm a man,
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  Speaker 3: I must be brave.
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  Speaker 1: And I must face a man.
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  Speaker 5: Who hates me. All I'll count.
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  Speaker 3: A craven cow or a little coward.
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  Speaker 7: In my grave.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, to be torn twixt love and duty. Supposing I
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  Speaker 1: lose my fair-haired beauty. Look at that big hand move along.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, when I knew.
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  Speaker 1: He made a vow while in state's prison, vowed it
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  Speaker 1: would be my life or his. I'm not afraid of death.
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  Speaker 14: But oh, what will.
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  Speaker 17: I do if you leave me?
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  Speaker 1: Do not forsake me, oh my darling You made that
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  Speaker 1: promise when we.
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  Speaker 3: Wed Do not forsake me, oh my darling Although you're
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  Speaker 3: grieving I won't be leaving Until I shoot Frank Miller dead.
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  Speaker 8: Wait a long, wait a long Wait a long, wait.
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  Speaker 5: A long.
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  Speaker 24: Now me, I wouldn't leave this town at noon for
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  Speaker 24: all the tea in China.
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  Speaker 2: No, sir, it's going to be quite a sight to see.
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  Speaker 7: Apocalypse Now, the doors, the beginning, the end, with the
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  Speaker 7: helicopter blades turning into the fan. over Martin Sheen lying
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  Speaker 7: on the bed.
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  Speaker 17: This is the end.
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  Speaker 8: Beautiful friend.
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  Speaker 14: This is the end.
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  Speaker 8: My only friend The end Of our elaborate plans The
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  Speaker 8: end Of everything that stands the end. No safety or
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  Speaker 8: surprise the end. I'll never look into your eyes. again
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  Speaker 8: Can you picture what we'll be so limitless and free
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  Speaker 8: Desperately in need of some strangers hand in a hug Desperate.
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  Speaker 17: Love Desperate love Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 14: Come on baby, come on baby Come on.
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  Speaker 15: Baby, come on baby Come on. All right.
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  Speaker 5: .
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  Speaker 17: .
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  Speaker 7: The Ride of the Valkyries in Apocalypse Now.
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  Speaker 20: © transcript Emily Beynon.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: You understand, Captain, that this mission does not exist, nor
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  Speaker 1: will it ever exist.
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  Speaker 12: We can spiral off. That's a good number. Just in general,
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  Speaker 12: how about just music that you like as far as
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  Speaker 12: outside of that?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I've now been listening to music for
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  Speaker 7: 50 years, you know. I grew up in Liverpool.
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  Speaker 12: Right in the middle of that.
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  Speaker 7: I was, what, turning nine in the year that Love
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  Speaker 7: Me Do hit the charts so discovering pop music just
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  Speaker 7: as my city was about to become the epicenter of
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  Speaker 7: the whole thing so the Beatles were my first love
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  Speaker 7: and it's a pretty damn good place to start I
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  Speaker 7: was having a conversation with a member of one of
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  Speaker 7: the bands playing here outside and and he you know
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  Speaker 7: he's he's what he's in his 20s crazy about the
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  Speaker 7: Beatles and and this is true down to my my
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  Speaker 7: girlfriend's kids who are it holds.
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  Speaker 12: Up amazingly yeah because we do a festival here that's
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  Speaker 12: just Beatle related for like two days and I was
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  Speaker 12: amazed by how many kids there were how many teenagers
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  Speaker 12: it's still universal.
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  Speaker 7: Bands right across the field yeah From electronica through hip-hop,
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  Speaker 7: obviously to indie rock and pop and country and folk,
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  Speaker 7: they will be constantly citing the Beatles. It is quite staggering.
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  Speaker 13: Love, love me do You know I love you I'll
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  Speaker 13: always be true So.
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  Speaker 8: Please Love me do Love me.
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  Speaker 13: Do Love, love me do You know I love you
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  Speaker 13: I'll always be true So please.
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  Speaker 8: Love me do.
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  Speaker 5: Love me do.
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  Speaker 14: Someone to love.
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  Speaker 13: Somebody new.
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  Speaker 15: Someone to love.
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  Speaker 14: Someone like you.
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  Speaker 15: Love, love me do.
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  Speaker 13: You know I love you, I'll always be true So please.
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  Speaker 8: Love me do Oh, love me do.
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  Speaker 14: Love, love me do.
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  Speaker 13: You know I love you. I'll always be true. So please,
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  Speaker 13: love me do.
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  Speaker 5: Love me do. Yeah, love me do.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, straight from Doug's childhood. That was Love Me Do
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  Speaker 12: from Robert Zemeckis' I Want to Hold Your Hand.
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  Speaker 7: There will never be a band who will be able
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  Speaker 7: to achieve what they did because they kept moving the goalposts.
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  Speaker 7: and we all moved with them. They kind of invented
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  Speaker 7: everything as they went along. That's an exaggeration. There's lots
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  Speaker 7: of other bands who were doing the same thing. But
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  Speaker 7: because they were absolutely the vanguard, they went from being
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  Speaker 7: the Fab Four, the mop tops, to being these weird
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  Speaker 7: crazy drug adult guys to you know and we traveled
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  Speaker 7: with them yeah we said oh that's what you want
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  Speaker 7: to be now okay we'll be crazy drug adult guys
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  Speaker 7: with you.
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  Speaker 12: That's yeah they redefine themselves every couple.
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  Speaker 7: Of years they all the cliches apply they wrote they
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  Speaker 7: wrote the soundtrack of my childhood yeah and lennon in
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  Speaker 7: particular i'm not so much a fan of mccartney's solo
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  Speaker 7: work but lennon in particular um I really like Harrison's
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  Speaker 7: solo stuff dude continue to write the soundtrack of my
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  Speaker 7: 20s in a lot of ways and December 1980 was
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  Speaker 7: a dark dark cold cold horrible horrible day um Harrison's
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  Speaker 7: solo work I'm a huge fan of love his his
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  Speaker 7: work um I mean, I'll talk about them all day.
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  Speaker 7: You don't want to get me started. A large area
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  Speaker 7: of my bookshelf is given over to Beatles songs. Everything
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  Speaker 7: else was coming in at the same time. I was
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  Speaker 7: very fortunate, I think, to grow up in the greatest
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  Speaker 7: ever decade. And abiding passions out of that, the animals
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  Speaker 7: and the kinks and The Searchers and the Hollies and
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  Speaker 7: there were so many bands. And what was great about
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  Speaker 7: the charts then was everything was in it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: It was very diverse. As opposed to now, it's a
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  Speaker 12: very small window of what makes it great.
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  Speaker 7: Sinatra was in the charts. And Engelbert Humperdinck was in
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  Speaker 7: the charts. And Simon and Garfunkel were in the charts.
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  Speaker 7: Donovan was in the charts. Dylan was in the charts.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And bad pop bands were in the charts. Novelty Records
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  Speaker 7: got to number one.
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  Speaker 12: The One Hit Wonders, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Dusty Springfield was around. And then there was the huge
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  Speaker 7: impact of black music on me in the 60s, which
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  Speaker 7: would have started, I guess, with Tamla Motown, and then
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  Speaker 7: discovering Atlantic and Stax. And then when... still in the 60s,
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  Speaker 7: as Cream arrived, who I was a huge fan of,
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  Speaker 7: and being aware that the Stones were doing blues covers,
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  Speaker 7: and looking at, what's this song by Cream? Spoonful? By who?
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  Speaker 7: By Willie Dixon? Who the hell is Willie Dixon?
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  Speaker 5: ¶ ¶ Light bulb, spools full of diamonds.
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  Speaker 15: Light bulb, spools.
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  Speaker 5: Full of gold.
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  Speaker 17: Just a little fruit of your.
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  Speaker 25: Precious love Satisfied my soul So.
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  Speaker 5: You're a liar.
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  Speaker 26: Gonna rather cry, yeah Everybody's lying.
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  Speaker 18: Everybody's fighting about it.
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  Speaker 17: Hello, hello, hello Hello, hello.
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  Speaker 5: Might feel booze.
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  Speaker 15: Full of coffee.
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  Speaker 17: And velvet booze full of tea Got.
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  Speaker 27: A little booze of yours Precious love Good enough for
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  Speaker 27: me People.
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  Speaker 5: You're a liar.
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  Speaker 27: Everybody's a Everybody's a fighter That little old, that little
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  Speaker 27: old That little old fool That little old, that little
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  Speaker 27: old That little old fool That.
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  Speaker 28: Little old fool That little old fool Move that, move.
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  Speaker 17: That, move that little load, that little load, that little load.
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  Speaker 15: Thank you.
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  Speaker 17: Thank you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 15: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 12: And that was Cream's interpretation of Willie Dixon's Spoonful from
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  Speaker 12: the 1970 film Homer. A whole new avenue.
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  Speaker 7: It was much harder because now you go to Spotify.
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  Speaker 7: Willie Dixon? Oh, thank you.
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  Speaker 15: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: I can listen to all of Willie Dixon's songs. Then,
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  Speaker 7: not so easy. So now I'm, you know, having come
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  Speaker 7: to terms with, or starting to come to terms with
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  Speaker 7: Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye and Otis Redding and Aretha Franklin,
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  Speaker 7: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Now I'm being thrown
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  Speaker 7: back to Willie Dixon and Muddy Waters and Howling Wolf.
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  Speaker 7: And from there, it's never ending. There's Blind Boy Everybody
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  Speaker 7: and Sonny Everybody and all the way back to Lead
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  Speaker 7: Belly and Robert Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: I'm from his town, you know. I'm from the Mississippi Delta.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 29: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Robert Johnson was actually buried not too far
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  Speaker 2: from my house.
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  Speaker 9: Right.
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  Speaker 7: I'm the first member of the 27 Club, right?
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  Speaker 15: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So blues is really big there, and you find signs
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  Speaker 2: everywhere that say, like, blind boy, whoever was born, lived
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  Speaker 2: and died here, unknown in the 30s. But he recorded
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  Speaker 2: that one album that became huge in England.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and influenced Eric Clapton, say, you know, or
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  Speaker 2: somebody like that. So I'm actually curious, are you much
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  Speaker 2: of a jazz fan at all?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 13: No?
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  Speaker 15: No.
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  Speaker 23: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Early jazz, yes. I mean, the closer jazz is to blues,
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  Speaker 7: the happier I am with it. I know we're all
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  Speaker 7: supposed to love John Coltrane, and I've tried, and no.
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: And modern jazz, which to me sounds like an explosion
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: in a pet shop.
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  Speaker 12: I agree. I'm not big on modern jazz.
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  Speaker 7: I can't get near it.
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  Speaker 27: This is.
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  Speaker 4: Zach and Shane from Howlmouth and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 11: Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: Shane's got a really good movie announcer voice.
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: Welcome to Movie Meltdown in a world of total darkness.
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: The next major band to impact me in the 60s
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: was Pink Floyd.
• 45:14
  Speaker 13: Oh, yeah.
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: Somewhere around 1968, I kept hearing this song. It was
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: just constantly haunting me, and it was See Emily Play.
• 45:41
  Speaker 29: Emily tries, but misunderstands.
• 45:47
  Speaker 14: She's often inclined to.
• 45:49
  Speaker 29: Borrow somebody's dreams till tomorrow.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: There is no other day.
• 45:58
  Speaker 17: Let's try it another way.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: You'll lose your mind at play.
• 46:10
  Speaker 17: See Emily play.
• 46:22
  Speaker 15: Soon after dark, Emily.
• 46:25
  Speaker 22: Cries Gazing through trees in sorrow Hardly a sound till tomorrow.
• 46:36
  Speaker 17: There is no other day Let's try it another way
• 46:41
  Speaker 17: You'll lose your mind and.
• 46:44
  Speaker 29: Play Put on a gown that touches the ground.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, put on a.
• 47:37
  Speaker 17: River forever and ever. Emily, there is no other day.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: Let's try it another way.
• 47:50
  Speaker 17: You'll lose your mind and play three games per day.
• 48:08
  Speaker 12: Yes, that was relatively early Pink Floyd with See Emily Play.
• 48:12
  Speaker 12: From Julian Temple's documentary about Joe Strummer, the future is unwritten.
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: Then I discovered more of the Floyd, and I bought
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: the Amagama album. To me, the live disc of Amagama
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: is the first and last. It's the high peak of
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: progressive psychedelic rock. It was never that good before, and
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: it was never that good again. There's one other album
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: that stands alongside it, and that's King Crimson's first album.
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: Almost everything else King Crimson did, I don't like. And
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: I have this weird thing with the Floyd. My cutoff
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: point with the Floyd is Dark Side of the Moon,
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: which I think is one of the dullest albums ever made.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a huge Sid Barrett fan, so I'm not
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: going to completely disagree with you on that.
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: Armagumma is that turning point. They're still doing Sid Barrett songs,
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: but without Sid, and they're starting to write their own stuff.
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: But the Floyd singing song about the evils of money,
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: that's not what I wanted from them. I wanted interstellar overdrive,
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: if you don't mind.
• 49:15
  Speaker 12: No, yeah, absolutely.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: And I actually never... When I was a teenager, I
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: got to... be in Cambridge for a summer.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: And you went to Grantchester Meadows.
• 49:23
  Speaker 12: I've never forgiven myself. I never did.
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: You didn't, okay.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: I wanted to go and creep around Sid Barrett's house
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: and see if I could catch a glimpse of him
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: burning a painting in his backyard or something. Whatever it
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: is they say he does out there, you know, but
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: he did out there.
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: There's that weird story that they tell on, you know,
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: the VHS series of classic albums. And they cover Dark
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: Side of the Moon. And they talk about being in
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: the studio during the recording of Shine On You Crazy Diamond,
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: which is the song written about Sid, obviously. And at
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: some point, either Gilmore or Waters turns around in the studios,
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: Sid's in the studio. Nobody invited him, and nobody knew
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: why the fuck he was there or how the fuck
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: he got in. But he's suddenly in the studio in
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: the middle of recording his song, and then he disappeared,
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: and nobody saw him go.
• 50:13
  Speaker 23: Yep.
• 50:13
  Speaker 12: Crazy diamond that he was.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: And they say they didn't even recognize him when they
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: first saw him because he had just shaved his head,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: you know, and apparently also his eyebrows off.
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: Probably. I think the last interview, was it someone at
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: the New Musical Express in the UK did with him,
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: was done through his letterbox.
• 50:32
  Speaker 23: Yeah.
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: Because he wouldn't actually open the door.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: That sounds about right.
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: He was happy to do the interview, but only through
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: the letterbox of his door.
• 50:40
  Speaker 12: So with all this talk about the mysterious Sid Barrett,
• 50:42
  Speaker 12: I thought we had to work one in from the
• 50:43
  Speaker 12: Mysterious Skin soundtrack. And this is Golden Hair.
• 50:58
  Speaker 14: Lean out your window, golden hair. I heard you.
• 51:09
  Speaker 17: Singing in the midnight air.
• 51:18
  Speaker 14: My book is closed.
• 51:22
  Speaker 8: I read no more.
• 51:28
  Speaker 29: Watching the fire dance.
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: On the floor.
• 51:40
  Speaker 29: I've left my.
• 51:41
  Speaker 30: Book, I've left my room.
• 51:51
  Speaker 14: For I heard you.
• 51:54
  Speaker 30: Singing Through the gloom Singing and singing A merry.
• 52:12
  Speaker 14: Air Lean out of the.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Window I was always a big fan of underground psychedelic
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: stuff from like the 70s and 80s, you know, and
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: those guys were always name-checking Sid Barrett, so I had
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: to go back and listen to some of his solo records,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: you know, his weird bluesy pop music.
• 52:41
  Speaker 31: The madcap laughs yeah yeah no no no it's a
• 52:44
  Speaker 31: great album someone described it once like he wrote pop
• 52:47
  Speaker 31: songs on silly putty and then just sort of stretched
• 52:50
  Speaker 31: them out or condensed them and you know that's.
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: Cool yeah now somewhere somewhere in the middle of the
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: 60s as well this song suddenly appeared out of nowhere
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: and i couldn't put a label on it and i
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: couldn't i couldn't work out what it was and where
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: it came from which was called a song called a
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: boy named sue.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Well, my daddy left home when I was three and
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: he didn't leave much to maw on me, just this
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: old guitar and an empty bottle of booze. Now, I
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: don't blame him because he run and hid, but the
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: meanest thing that he ever did was before he left,
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: he went and maimed me, Sue. Well, he must have
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: thought that it was quite a joke and it got
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: a lot of laughs from lots of folks. Seems I
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: had to fight my whole life through. Some gal would
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: giggle and I'd get red and some guy'd laugh and
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: I'd bust his head. I tell you, life ain't easy
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: for a boy named Sue. Well, I grew up quick
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: and I grew up mean. My fists got hard and
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: my wits got keen. Roamed from town to town to
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: hide my shame. But I made me a vow to
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: the moon and stars. I'd search the honky-tonks and bars
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: and kill that man that gave me that awful name. Well,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: it was Gatlinburg in mid-July And I'd just hit town
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: and my throat was dry I thought I'd stop and
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: have myself a groove At an old saloon on a
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: street of mud There at a table dealing stud Such
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: a dirty mangy dog could name me Sue Well, I
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: knew that snake was my own sweet dad From a
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: worn-out picture that my mother'd had And I knew that
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: scar on his cheek and his evil eye He was
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: big and bent and gray and old And I looked
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: at him and my blood ran cold And I said,
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: my name is Sue, how do you do?
• 54:44
  Speaker 17: Now you're gonna die Yeah, that's what I.
• 54:50
  Speaker 15: Told him.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: Well, I hit him hard right between the eyes And
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: he went down, but to my surprise Come up with
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: a knife and cut off a piece of.
• 55:00
  Speaker 15: My ear.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: But I busted a chair right across his teeth, and
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: we crashed through the wall and into the street, kicking
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: and a-gouging in the mud and the blood and the beard.
• 55:12
  Speaker 15: I tell you, I fought.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Tougher men, but I really can't remember when. He kicked
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: like a mule and he bit like a crocodile. I
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: heard him laugh, and then I heard him cuss, and
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: he went for his gun. I pulled mine first. He
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: stood there looking at me, and I saw him smile.
• 55:29
  Speaker 17: He said, son.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: This world is rough, and if a man's gonna make it,
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: he's gotta be tough.
• 55:36
  Speaker 10: And I know I wouldn't.
• 55:37
  Speaker 13: Be there to help you along.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: So I give you that name, and I said goodbye.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: I knew you'd have to get tough or die. And
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: it's that name that helped to make you strong.
• 55:48
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: He said, now you just fought one hell of a fight.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: And I know you hate me, and you've got the
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: right to kill me now. And I wouldn't blame you
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: if you do. But you oughta thank me before I
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: die For the gravel in your guts and the spit
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: in the eye Cause I'm the son of a bitch
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: that named you Sue.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but what could I do?
• 56:12
  Speaker 15: What could I do?
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: I got all choked up and I threw down my
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: gun Called him a pawn, he called me a son
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: And I come away with a different.
• 56:20
  Speaker 14: Point of view.
• 56:23
  Speaker 15: And I think about.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Him now and then Every time I try and every
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: time I win And if I ever have a son
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: I think I'm going to name him Bill or George,
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: any damn thing but Sue.
• 56:38
  Speaker 12: Yes, that was Johnny's classic, A Boy Named Sue, oddly
• 56:41
  Speaker 12: enough from the Are We Done Yet soundtrack. A whole
• 56:44
  Speaker 12: new world.
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: That was the first time I heard Johnny Cash, and
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: of course that opened up a trap door called country music.
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: And I'm still lost in the maze down in there.
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: I'm a big country fan.
• 56:54
  Speaker 12: So then I'll ask you that same question. Modern country?
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: The modern corporate Nashville big hat stuff, no.
• 57:05
  Speaker 12: I can't stand that.
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: I call it truck rock.
• 57:08
  Speaker 12: I call it pop with a violin.
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: I can't do it. But there's a lot of really
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: good country artists still around. And it's that. country-folk-americana crossover
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: that is kind of indefinable. I've become a huge fan
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: of Lucinda Williams. Ryan Adams is just a godlike genius.
• 57:34
  Speaker 12: Those are kind of their own state at this point.
• 57:37
  Speaker 12: I don't even know that they've fallen to old country
• 57:39
  Speaker 12: or modern. They have found their own, like, that whole
• 57:42
  Speaker 12: middle area.
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: And lastly, a band that... become a big fan of.
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: I saw them in Pittsburgh opening for Doors, Shovels and Rope.
• 57:56
  Speaker 12: They've played here a few times recently, yeah.
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: They are a stupendous, magnificent band. And a band called Houndmouth.
• 58:05
  Speaker 12: They're from across the river here. Oh, cool. We actually
• 58:08
  Speaker 12: had two of the guys on the show talking about
• 58:10
  Speaker 12: their songs.
• 58:11
  Speaker 21: Right.
• 58:11
  Speaker 12: Yeah, they're really good.
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: So, I mean, I'm still listening to new stuff now
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: and finding new bands and getting excited by new stuff
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: now I mean I kind of fell out of love
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: with rock in the 70s and I've kind of stayed
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: out of love with hard rock so I don't do
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: heavy metal Zeppelin did it for me initially I realize
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: I sort of like Zeppelin a lot but I don't
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: like Robert Plant's voice And he ruined so many perfectly
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: good Zeppelin songs by caterwauling through them.
• 58:49
  Speaker 12: He hasn't gotten any better. Year before last, I saw
• 58:52
  Speaker 12: him when he played here live.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: He was terrible.
• 58:54
  Speaker 12: And he was just walking through them.
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: He brought out huge plaudits for it. The album he
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: did with Alison Krauss, who I love. Yeah, great. I
• 59:03
  Speaker 7: thought it was a mess.
• 59:05
  Speaker 12: That's his influence.
• 59:06
  Speaker 7: And he has a new album out, which I just
• 59:08
  Speaker 7: heard some new stuff from, which sounds great.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Awful um and jimmy page is still a brilliant guitar
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: player though.
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: Without question yes uh well the the other three members
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: of the band all were brilliant amazing band i'm not
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: i'm sorry robert uh it's Of course, if I ever
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: meet him, I'll tell him what a big fan I am.
• 59:29
  Speaker 12: I loved your band.
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: But I did kind of, and prog rock had left
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: me completely cold. Emerson, Lake and Palmer, one of the
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: crimes against music as far as I'm concerned.
• 59:44
  Speaker 12: Thank you.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: It makes me more happy than you know for you.
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: To say that. Then something changed. I missed the Ramones
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: early on. I've got the Ramones, love the Ramones. Never
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: a fan of the Sex Pistols, who seemed to me
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: like a cartoon band. But suddenly I heard this band
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: called The Clash. And suddenly I was excited about rock
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: music again. They're probably my second favourite band of all time.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 24: We met when we were at school Never took no
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 24: shit from no one We weren't fools A teacher says
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 24: we're done We're only having fun You know it's.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 28: Just not everyone In the classroom When we got thrown
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 28: out and left without much fun.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 24: On the weekends we.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 19: Go dancing, dance 12 on the bus.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 14: You always made me.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: Laugh, got me in bad thoughts.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 17: Played me pool all night.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 14: Smoking meth.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 24: I practice daily in my room.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 19: Down the crown planet Your next move Go on a
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 19: nicking spree It's the wrong.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 15: Guy Each of you get.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 28: Free Here's a big story.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 13: When you look it out, we're gonna rip the town
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 13: We're burning.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 17: Fucking down, to a sin Cause years have passed and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 17: things have changed.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 14: I've moved any way I want to.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 28: Show And I'll never forget the feeling I got When
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 28: I heard that.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: You got hurt.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 19: Have a drink on me Go insane Step lightly Stay free.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: Stay free.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 12: I was in fact the very influential The Clash with
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 12: Stay Free from the School of Rock soundtrack.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 7: But that period then was another golden age of music
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: for me. The Clash, The Jammed, The Stranglers, The Damned,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: Elvis Costello. A ton of other bands as well.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: All awesome stuff.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 7: It just seemed to come again rolling off a never-ending treadmill,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: and all of it was great.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 12: And nobody ever realizes it at that time. It takes
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 12: a little hindsight. They were just the popular music of
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 12: the day, but now you look back at how solid
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 12: all of those bands were.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 7: You know the thing that depresses me now is I
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 7: can't listen to popular music. I have no idea what's
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 7: going on in the charts or what passes for the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 7: charts now. I am not a fan of rap at all.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: Some of the stuff that Steph's kids are hearing on
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: Top 40 Radio at their age, 11, they frankly should
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: not be hearing. It seems to me to be hopeless, pointless, soulless, tuneless.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: The lyrics have no value.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 12: There's a lot of lesses.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: There's nothing in there. There's nothing in there. And it's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: very depressing to me because I.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: I listened to pop music in the 60s and the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: 70s and the 80s and the 90s and even a
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 7: bit into the noughties. Now, there's a lot of stuff
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 7: I think I'm listening to that 40 years ago would
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 7: have gone into the charts. Now it's not because broadcasting
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: has died and everything is narrowcasting. And the stuff that
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: top 40 radio is playing, which to me is, you know, there's,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: It's not just rap. It's all this Iggy Azalea, Katy Perry,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: Ariana Grande. It's pap. It's just bad. They can't sing,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 7: or if they can, they're not demonstrating. I think Lady
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 7: Gaga is probably interesting. I don't know, but I think
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 7: she's better than her material. She's just done this album
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: of duets with Tony Bennett that's gone into Billboard at
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 7: number one, I think. which I haven't heard yet, but
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: I certainly will listen to. My girlfriend, Steph, is the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 7: world's biggest Tony Bennett fan, so I will be getting
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: to hear it for sure. But it's depressing to me
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 7: that that's happened. As I say, I still listen to
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 7: new stuff all the time. I got into listening to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: a lot of African music, which there is one thing
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 7: I do share with Robert Plant. but again, from really,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: really a lot through two DJs at home, the legendary
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: John Peel, now no longer with us, unfortunately, and probably
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: lesser known over here, a DJ called Andy Kershaw, who
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: was playing the Bundy Boys, and then Ali Farka Toure.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 7: So I kind of discovered this whole new window opens
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: up of African music. I'm still kind of trying to
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 7: keep track of what's going on there. And African rap
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 7: is interesting.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah, and there's a whole different culture of it going
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 12: on too.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: It's not obsessed with the size of my cock and
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: the size of my gun and the size of my
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: car and how expensive my bling is and how badly
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: I treat my women. They have other issues at work.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 12: Going on.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 7: In African rap, which makes it immediately much more interesting.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 12: And there's this weird underground. I've just heard of all
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 12: these artists that put together and they're still working off
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 12: of cassette tapes. And they're like, that is because that's
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 12: the technology they have at hand sometimes. And they're passing
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 12: tapes around still.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: The Bundy Boys, that was it. You couldn't get them.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 7: They only existed on cassette tape for the longest time.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 12: But it's amazing that they're still out there and they're
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 12: so dedicated to it and passionate about it.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 7: And you didn't have access to this stuff. No, I tried...
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 7: I tried to get this through to my kids. In
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 7: the 60s, if you didn't hear it on radio, you
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: didn't hear it. That was it. There was nowhere else
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 7: you could go. You either listened to the radio obsessively
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 7: or you bought records. And I couldn't afford to buy
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 7: everything I was hearing. So trying to find the stuff
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 7: that was in the dirty, dusty, cobwebby corners where the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 7: interesting stuff was.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: Hard work now access is everywhere and it's great don't
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 7: get me wrong but you know I think we can
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 7: take I use Spotify constantly and if there's anything I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 7: hear I think oh what's that I go to Spotify
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 7: and sometimes it's not there and you know there's maybe
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 7: Groove Shark if Spotify isn't working but 9.9 times out
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 7: of 10 Spotify is has it? And then I discovered
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 7: that this band has been around for 20 years. Why
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 7: have I never heard them?
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: I remember even in the early 2000s when downloading was
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: a risky affair. You could hope that you got the
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: things that you wanted. More often you'd just download something
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: to make your computer explode. But I remember hearing bands
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: from Louisville... you know, and this really crazy stuff coming
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: out of this town and being like, wow, like, I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: don't know where I could go. I actually was in
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: England before I could find copies of albums of bands
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: from Louisville and.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 7: Things like that.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, that record hunting, there is something lost there,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I think, and that's kind of a shame, you know.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 7: Yes. Well, and it's an interesting thing that you say
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 7: that as well because, of course, black music was a
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 7: huge influence on the Beatles.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: And they assumed... that everybody in America was listening to
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 7: that music as well. It was partly because of Liverpool
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 7: being a major port, particularly in terms of access to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 7: ships from the States. So there were albums coming in
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 7: to Liverpool all the time that were going into the
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 7: record shops that people were hearing and sharing and playing
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 7: and listening to. The Miracles particularly were a big influence
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 7: on the Beatles. When they first come to the States...
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: They're talking to people about the black music they're listening
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 7: to in Liverpool and getting blank expressions.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 23: Oh, yeah.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 7: Because they have no concept that white radio would not
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: play black music.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no. Actually, folks in my hometown in sort of
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: the middle of the Mississippi Delta, if they wanted to
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: hear good blues music, they would do this little trick
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: where they'd have to rig up a radio to have
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: an extra powerful antenna to get to Memphis, which is
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: like two hours away by car. Yeah, just so they
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: could hear black music in the heart of black music
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: in America. Because the radio stations just didn't play it.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: It was that narrow.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was incredibly difficult to find.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 7: So in the rural areas outside of Memphis, there was
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 7: no black music being played?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Well, either that. I mean, most of the radio stations
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: out in the middle of nowhere were white-controlled. But every
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: now and again, though... you'd get a radio station that
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: was a gospel radio station.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you could tune in on Sundays. And
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: you can still do this now. You can tune in
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: on Sundays and hear a six-hour church service. You know,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: nothing but music and people jamming and singing and praising
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: Wasn't it Rita Franklin who said that if you take
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: a gospel song and cross out my Lord and write
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 7: in baby?
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 23: Uh-huh.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 7: You have a blues song.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 12: It's all the same.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: Or you have a soul song.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 23: Oh, yeah.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 13: Oh, yeah.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: And it's absolutely true. And, man, like, there's still a
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: strong tradition of that, too, in the Deep South.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 23: Yeah.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Of, like, really powerful gospel music.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 10: Sure.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Which isn't my thing. But every now and again,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: like I say, when I'm back home, I.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 7: Catch it on the radio. I have to say, I mean,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: I'm not, you know, I'm an atheist, but I have
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: a lot of the Swan Silvertones and the Four Interns.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 7: mahalia jackson i mean it's just the the quality of
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: the singing is just gorgeous yeah.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 12: The music was amazing regardless of what you feel behind it.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: No sure and you can't even like i said if
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: you're like me it's not your thing you can't deny
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: the impact or the significance of any other stuff so
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: so i'd love to hear a little bit more about
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: some of your some some modern bands that you really
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: like that you really dig.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: Uh over the last few years yeah um well uh
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 7: arcade fire uh are, I mean, I was, I was,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 7: because of my son, I was kind of in on
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: the ground floor with Arcade Fire, because he had, I
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: think not entirely legally, downloaded Funeral, and he kept playing it,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: kept playing it, and I kept hearing it, and I
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 7: wasn't sure initially, and the more I heard, the more
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 7: I thought, oh. So I asked him about it, and so, um,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: and I just, just, uh, we just saw Arcade Fire
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 7: in Pittsburgh, um, this year on the back of Reflektor.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 7: I think they're just a monstrous band. Brilliant, brilliant, wonderful.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 7: A strange discovery for me, I'd rather have fallen in
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 7: love with an album from last year and we saw
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: them in Dallas. I was aware of them and I'd
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 7: kind of seen the way they looked with these masks
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 7: on and I thought, well you're a you're a heavy
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 7: metal band, and I know what you sound like. You
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: sound like.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 7: And all of that, but I can't abide.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 12: I agree, by the way.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 7: And they're not at all. It's Ghost.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 17: Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: Or Ghost BC, as they get called. I'm not quite
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 7: sure why. And I think that album, whatever it's called,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 7: something infinitesimum something, is brilliant.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 12: Wonderful.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: And they were great in concert and got to go, um, uh,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 7: backstage and meet them out of makeup and masks, but
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: we're not allowed to talk about that because they don't exist. Um,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: but they're great guys, really, really nice guys. And, uh,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 7: the album is huge. I think I mentioned doors, not
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: to be confused with the doors, um, uh, D A
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 7: W E S. Um, Again, that was Happy Accident. We
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 7: went to see Conor Oberst and Bright Eyes in Pittsburgh.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 7: Doors were opening for them, and two songs in, I
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 7: was kind of, wait, whoa, whoa, who are you, who
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 7: are you? I think they're a great band. I've seen
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 7: them like four or five times now, a couple of
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 7: times in London and over here. And Shovels and Rope
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 7: were opening for them last time, I saw them live,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 7: which was in Pittsburgh. Delta Spirit is an album that
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 7: I've really got to love. And I can't see them
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 7: touring anywhere. I'm desperate to see them live.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: They came to Louisville, you know, for our Four Castle Festival,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: I think it was. So if you had been here then,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: then you might have had a chance. So you're just
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: going to have to come back next year.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 13: Okay.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 7: Are they good live?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: I thought they were pretty damn fine.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 15: Yeah, sure.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 10: I mean....
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: I was kind of blown away that day. I got
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: to see Jack White for the first time play. You
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: listen to The White Stripes or any of that stuff?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 7: I have a problem with Jack White. I don't quite
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: know what it is. I think he's a genius. And
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 7: I never really quite enjoy listening to him. I have
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: no idea why. But his talent is astonishing without question.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 12: After we saw him this last time, that's, that was
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 12: kind of what we were talking about. We were like,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 12: no matter what he does, cause he did several covers
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 12: that night too. And it was like, they all just
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 12: sound like Jack White. Like he has such a weird
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 12: distinctive sound that maybe it works against him on some cases.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 15: Maybe.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I just remember a story. Someone told me that he, uh,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: in his home in new Orleans, he bought like some
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: sort of manor house in new Orleans that he lives in.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: He had these radios installed in his bedroom so that
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: he could listen to the rain outside without having to
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: open the windows. So that pretty much sums up everything
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: I think about Jack White, you know?
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 12: When do I get to that level of money and
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 12: crazy balancing act? Because I'm crazy enough. I just don't
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 12: have enough money to put that stuff in. Yeah.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: So whenever I hear one of his records and I'm
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: like you, I'm like, wow, this is brilliant. And there's
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: something about it I can't quite put my finger on.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: I think of the radios that broadcast the rain from outside.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: Right, right.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 12: I think you've definitely got a good handle on stuff
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 12: I'd say more than most people I know there's a
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 12: lot of kids I know out there that have no
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 12: imagination and don't seek anything out so it's the fact
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 12: that you've got such a wide taste in music and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 12: are still seeking stuff out is amazing really I don't.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 7: Know I think it's just it's kind of a habit
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 7: I've developed in the 60s I suppose and I've never
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 7: got away from it I can't bear the thought that
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: something's got past me and I the delight in the
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 7: 60s was always finding new stuff. And I've never got
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 7: over that. That's what it is for me, is finding
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 7: new stuff.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 12: And that'll always be there. I think usually we get
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 12: to that point, we grow up, as they say, and
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 12: then a lot of people just stop doing that and
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 12: they don't seek anything out and they don't look for
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 12: anything new. They just listen to the same stuff they
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 12: listened to when they were 19. But yeah, it is
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 12: interesting watching the few people that are always happy to
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 12: find new stuff.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 11: So that's awesome.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 12: Well, I think that is it. Thank you for sitting in.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 12: They're packing the place up. So I guess we better
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 12: wrap up here.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 30: Yes.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 12: But thank you for sitting in that. Yeah. I figure
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 12: that's definitely a different. Take care. Thank you, man.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 17: Okay.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 12: So a big thank you once again to Doug for
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 12: sitting in with us this episode. and for not only
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 12: giving us his Killer 5 soundtrack songs, but along the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 12: way also putting together an entire episode of interesting and
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 12: eclectic music.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Did you have an awesome time? Did you drink awesome
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: shooters and listen to awesome music and then just sit
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: around and soak up each other's awesomeness?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 12: He's provided us with a great episode, and again, I'm
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 12: amazed at just how knowledgeable he is in this area.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 12: There are few people I know outside of nerdy music
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 12: bloggers or people in bands that spend every free moment
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 12: trying to get a random bar gig. Short of those characters,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 12: there are very few people I come across that are
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 12: as passionate and as knowledgeable about.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 11: Music as Doug.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 12: So I hope you were equally as impressed and happy
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 12: with our conversation with Doug as I was. If so,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 12: next time you see him in a convention, instead of saying, dude,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 12: how long did it take you to get in that makeup?
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 12: Instead say, hey, I heard your episode on music on
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 12: Attack of the Killer soundtrack and you were great. And
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 12: maybe then you'll end up trading some new favorite bands
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 12: to check out. It's conversations like these that go to
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 12: show you You can never pin people down as to
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 12: just what you think or expect them to be. Sometimes
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 12: they will pleasantly surprise you. And speaking of running into
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 12: horror actors at conventions, as I was a moment ago,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 12: we do want to thank everyone at Fright Night Film
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 12: Fest for letting us be part of the show. We've
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 12: been working with them since both we and they got started,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 12: so we appreciate all that they've put together over the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 12: years and look forward to being part of the show
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 12: in the future. Good night, future boy! And you can
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 12: go to FrightNightFilmFest.com to see what they have coming up
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 12: in regards to the next show. Alright, well that about
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 12: rounds out this installment of Attack of the Killer Soundtrack.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 12: And so I thought as we go out here, we'd
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 12: send off this episode with one of the more current
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 12: bands that Doug is a fan of. And Arcade Fire
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 12: has been showing up on a lot of movie soundtracks
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 12: in the last few years. So we'll go out with
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 12: their contribution to one of my favorite films of the
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 12: last year. This is in fact Arcade Fire with Suburban
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 12: War from Richard Linklater's Boyhood. Thank you once again for
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 12: listening and with that I will remind you, get a life,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 12: we'll provide the soundtracks.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 17: Let's go for a drive, see the town tonight There's
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 17: nothing to do but I don't mind when I'm with
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 17: you This town's so strange, they built it to.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 25: Change And while we sleep we know the streets get
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 25: released And my.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: Old friends, they were so different.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 25: Then Before your war against the suburbs began Before.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: It began We need a.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 32: Musical vice Yes, in the tribes.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: You grew your hair so out of.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 25: Mind You said the past won't rest Until you jump
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 25: the fence and leave it behind My old friends, I
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 25: can't remember when You cut your.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: Hair and never saw you.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 14: Again Now the cities.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 25: We live in could be distant stars in a search.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: Field in every passing car. The night's around. Yeah, the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: night's around.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 14: And we're living in the shadows. In the suburbs.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: I, I learned to drive.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 14: And you told me that we would never survive.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: So grab your mother's keys, we leave tonight. We just
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: started a war, and we can't win.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 14: They'll keep erasing all the streets we grew up in.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 25: Now the music divides us into tribes.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 13: Choose your side, I'll choose my side.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 7: You know what?
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 31: I don't mind at all.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 10: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 10: edited by The Oddity Studios. For more on how to
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 10: sponsor or support the show, email producer at moviemeltdown.com.
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  Speaker 14: Aloha!
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 15: Aloha!
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 14: Talk hard!