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Divide N Conquer [08.29.2026] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Garden America, the country's most listened to gardening
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  Speaker 1: show where we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping, and more.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, we'll discuss anything that has to do with
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  Speaker 1: growing plants and keeping your yard in tip-top shape. Now,
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  Speaker 1: here are your hosts, Brian Mayne, John Bagnasco, and Tiger
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  Speaker 1: Palafox on the Garden America Radio and Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning once again. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening,
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  Speaker 2: because we don't know when you're watching or listening to
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  Speaker 2: this show. Pre-recorded or not, we are live right now.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, you're from San Diego, California,
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  Speaker 2: Tiger's Pool House. It is Garden America. Welcome, one and all.
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  Speaker 2: Hope you're somewhat comfortable if you're living in an area
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  Speaker 2: of the country that is just going under extreme heat conditions.
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  Speaker 2: We are in an air-conditioned pool house here in San Diego.
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  Speaker 2: Very comfortable. And what do you think is going to
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  Speaker 2: happen today besides gardening talk?
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  Speaker 3: On our program? Oh, I thought you were just talking
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  Speaker 3: about today in general.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it could be any way you want to take it. No,
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  Speaker 2: you don't- In general or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, there's a- this is the time of year
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  Speaker 3: when people that are gardeners, it's kind of like the
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  Speaker 3: winter when they're stuck inside and they can't do a
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  Speaker 3: whole lot, you know, and they just start thinking about
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  Speaker 3: other stuff revolving around gardening.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: This is kind of that time of year, but on
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  Speaker 3: the opposite side where it's the summertime, where it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of too hot in between seasons and, you know, you're
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  Speaker 3: kind of like just surviving out there.
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  Speaker 2: In the yard a little bit, you know, it's survival.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And, but watering, I think is the biggest thing. And,
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  Speaker 3: It's a weird situation for us because normally we're a
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  Speaker 3: little bit drier with our air, but it has been
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  Speaker 3: so humid that it's just hot outside.
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  Speaker 2: It's like somebody's pushing down on your shoulders.
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  Speaker 3: Is that how it feels to you?
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  Speaker 2: It's just suppressing. It's just... Now, the ground's very warm.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, what kind of benefit will that be down the
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  Speaker 2: road a month or two with the warm ground as
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  Speaker 2: warm as it is, warmer than normal?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think that... you know, one of the things
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  Speaker 3: that is going to happen going into this winter is
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  Speaker 3: that all the plants will be fully stocked with water.
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  Speaker 3: Because like I said, it's still human. So we're not
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  Speaker 3: having this like drying out. It's more just kind of
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  Speaker 3: like this like heat that, but the plants are growing,
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  Speaker 3: the roots are growing, the ground is wet, the plants
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  Speaker 3: are saturated. Going into the wintertime, I have a feeling
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  Speaker 3: we're going to have this enormous growth happen in the fall.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of wet weather is in store.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: As soon as we get that.
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  Speaker 3: First rain, I think things like weeds and shrubs and
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  Speaker 3: all the native areas are just going to blow up
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of growth.
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  Speaker 2: We have a guest. Somebody just joined us this morning
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  Speaker 2: on the show. John is with us. John is here.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I've had trouble getting online. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 4: I think it has to do with molecules.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as one of our engineers at the radio station
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  Speaker 2: used to say, operator error.
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  Speaker 4: You got some props here, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Veronica says, your succulent is so cool. All those
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  Speaker 4: twisty branches.
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  Speaker 2: That was the one that you put in the newsletter?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you remember- She just has a live stream
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  Speaker 2: in your house. Well, no, the reason I ask is
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  Speaker 2: because I talked about this plant to John a week
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  Speaker 2: ago and you couldn't remember the name.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's Gollum.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, thank you, Veronica. That was a gift from
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  Speaker 2: John probably, what, 10 years ago? At least.
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  Speaker 4: We weren't sure if it was Gollum or Hobbit, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the variety of jade plant.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure it was Gollum.
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  Speaker 2: Did you ever get a– this is an example of
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  Speaker 2: a plant that you get, you receive one day, you
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  Speaker 2: buy one day, whatever, and 10 years later, it looks
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  Speaker 2: exactly the same.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't die. It doesn't necessarily grow much. It's just there.
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  Speaker 2: That was– And it's beautiful. Thank you, Veronica.
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  Speaker 4: Was that a Bruin Winters one? No.
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Because they came out with a whole little line
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  Speaker 3: of different ones, too, I feel.
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  Speaker 4: Jade plants?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I know they did Sempervivums, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Did they?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, hens and chicks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't they have a whole line?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I remember they really got into the
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  Speaker 3: succulents for a minute. And I felt like jade was
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  Speaker 3: one of the ones that they kind of.
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  Speaker 4: It's possible.
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  Speaker 2: It is a very cool plant. They're so great. No
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  Speaker 2: matter where I put it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, jade in general are just great plants. They
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of different ones.
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  Speaker 4: They're so hardy, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you just stick them in the ground and
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  Speaker 4: they grow.
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  Speaker 3: And colors, you know, like, you know, different shape of
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  Speaker 3: the leaf. Right.
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  Speaker 4: Variegated ones. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're great. I would use them as like
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  Speaker 3: a hedge.
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  Speaker 4: Different flowers too. You get pink flowers besides white.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And in the winter, if you've got a big jade plant,
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of showy when it's blooming.
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  Speaker 3: It's always like a pleasant surprise because like you're saying,
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  Speaker 3: it's a pretty striking flower. But then the bummer is
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  Speaker 3: when they're done blooming, they don't fall as easily as
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  Speaker 3: like a normal shrubby kind of flowering plant kind of
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  Speaker 3: a thing. So they stay there for a while. You
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  Speaker 3: got to kind of clean it up.
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  Speaker 4: I think my best rose was a polyantha called Gwen Cleary.
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  Speaker 4: And first of all, it's extremely fragrant. And most polyantha
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  Speaker 4: roses aren't fragrant. And then it would open up rose pink.
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  Speaker 4: then the flowers would change to light pink, then they
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  Speaker 4: would change to white, and then they would fall. They
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  Speaker 4: would never turn brown. So you had this bush that
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  Speaker 4: had three different color flowers on it and always looked
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  Speaker 4: really good.
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  Speaker 3: There was another plant that yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Do
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  Speaker 3: you remember that one? I mean, do you remember? It
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  Speaker 3: still exists. The Brunfelsia. Yeah, exactly. And that was the
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  Speaker 3: same thing, right? It would start off as like a
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  Speaker 3: dark purple. and then go to like a light purple
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  Speaker 3: and then a white.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. And that was, it was blue, bluish tones.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The yesterday, today and tomorrow kind of a thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Those are always kind of neat when they can kind
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  Speaker 3: of change colors. Brian, it's like Mike, like do you
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  Speaker 3: remember micro machines or hot wheels change colors?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah. Hot wheels goes back. How about mood
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  Speaker 2: rings from the seventies?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Our buddy has stopped wishing us a good day. And, uh, Hastam,
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  Speaker 4: we hope we have a good day, too. The weather
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  Speaker 4: here has been so hot.
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  Speaker 2: Don't talk about hot weather to Hastam. Come on.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what the weather's like in Peshawar,
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  Speaker 4: but I mean, you don't think it's like I would
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  Speaker 4: tell Hastam how hot it is here, but I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if Hastam probably does centigrade.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't relate to, you know, I don't mind
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  Speaker 4: the metric system. It's fine. But I think that they
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  Speaker 4: missed the boat with temperature.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think Fahrenheit temperature is much better an indicator of
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  Speaker 4: what the climate is than centigrade. Because centigrade you go
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  Speaker 4: from zero to 100 and that's it. It's from frozen
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  Speaker 4: to boiling.
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  Speaker 2: When you're centigrade in the 40s, you're very hot. I
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  Speaker 2: think the 40s in centigrade is, correct me somebody, is
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  Speaker 2: like 100 in Fahrenheit. What does make sense, though, I
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  Speaker 2: like the fact that zero is like frozen, right? Zero
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  Speaker 2: things freeze. And 100 is boiling. That makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: 32 degrees on the Fahrenheit as a frozen and 212
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  Speaker 2: to boil, that's a little off. That's a little odd, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but what I like is you can feel the
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  Speaker 4: temperatures more. Like between 30 degrees centigrade and 31 degrees centigrade,
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  Speaker 4: we could have Four different temperatures, right? Two at least.
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  Speaker 4: And you get a better feeling for the temperature.
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  Speaker 3: Like Fahrenheit has more numbers.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So therefore, it's not 81 or 85. No, you get 82,
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  Speaker 3: you get 83.
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  Speaker 4: Like for instance, in centigrade, I don't know what the
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  Speaker 4: comparable is, but if it was 79 degrees... That would
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  Speaker 4: be one temperature. If it was 80 degrees Fahrenheit, it
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  Speaker 4: would still be the same temperature.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm cool when it's 79. I start to feel
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  Speaker 4: hot if it's 80.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's what you've grown up and what you're
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  Speaker 2: used to.
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  Speaker 4: I think that doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 3: You got a compliment from Millie, John. Thanks for including
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  Speaker 3: the wonderful Nathaniel Hawthorne quote in the newsletter.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I was going to do the quote, but
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  Speaker 4: I can't pull up the newsletter.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, now we're just waiting for a compliment for Tiger.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 4: There you go. My phone was complimenting Tiger. What are
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  Speaker 4: you doing?
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  Speaker 2: That's a general question. What are you doing? You can't
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  Speaker 2: pull up the newsletter? You know, you're afraid to get
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  Speaker 2: off the page you're on, right? There's that fear, if
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  Speaker 2: I leave this page, I'll never get back to it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, the Nathaniel Hawthorne quote is a chapter. Chapter one.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we've only got a couple of minutes left before
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  Speaker 2: the break, so.
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  Speaker 4: All right. His quote, Brian, is, I used to visit
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  Speaker 4: and revisit a dozen times a day and stand in
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  Speaker 4: deep contemplation over my vegetable progeny with the love that
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  Speaker 4: nobody could share or conceive of who had never taken
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  Speaker 4: part in the process of creation. It was one of
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  Speaker 4: the most bewitching sights in the world to observe a
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  Speaker 4: hill of beans thrusting aside the soil.
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  Speaker 2: Don't we say a hill of beans? What's that saying?
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  Speaker 3: What is that saying?
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  Speaker 2: Hilla beans. There's something where a hilla bean. One of
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  Speaker 2: our listeners or viewers will know. He doesn't know. No,
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  Speaker 2: hilla beans. There's something with hilla beans that's a saying
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  Speaker 2: that people use.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a shorter form if he doesn't know beans.
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  Speaker 2: Hilla beans. Somebody on Facebook help us here. Help me
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  Speaker 2: with that hilla beans comment that we're talking about. Are
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  Speaker 2: you going to Google it, John?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't leave that page you're on. He doesn't know
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  Speaker 2: a hill of beans. I don't know. Something like that.
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  Speaker 4: You remember Nathaniel Hawthorne's novel, right? Nate.
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  Speaker 2: We call him Nate. Nate Hawthorne.
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  Speaker 4: Most famous novel was? Scarlet Letter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that was.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Lenore put it better. What I was trying
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  Speaker 4: to say about Fahrenheit. She said, Fahrenheit's more precise.
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  Speaker 2: Ha ha ha.
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly what I was trying to say, Lenore. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we are going to take a break, a
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  Speaker 2: comfortable break. We just kind of will ease into the break.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have a guest on right now. We will
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  Speaker 2: not have a guest. It's going to be comfortable.
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  Speaker 3: Relax.
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  Speaker 2: Don't have to squeeze in a bunch of words before
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  Speaker 2: the break.
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  Speaker 3: We can stay cool.
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  Speaker 2: Cut somebody off. Don't want to do that. Hey, welcome
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  Speaker 2: to Garden America. Thank you for joining us on BizTalk Radio,
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  Speaker 2: Facebook Live. The boys are back. I'm Brian Main, Tiger Palafox,
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  Speaker 2: John Bagnesco. We talked about the upcoming break, which we're
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  Speaker 2: going to do right now for our friends on BizTalk Radio.
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  Speaker 2: Stay with us.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian, John.
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  Speaker 2: And Tiger. Welcome back to the show. Did you enjoy
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  Speaker 2: your break? We hope so. Those on Facebook Live, we
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  Speaker 2: appreciate seeing all the familiar names. It's good. Just waiting
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  Speaker 2: for a tiger compliment, then we'd be three for three now.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-oh. Now I'm fishing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, someone's going to come up with something.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Kevin, by the way, our buddy Kevin.
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  Speaker 2: My buddy Kevin.
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  Speaker 4: In Coeur d'Alene, reacting to your temperature comments. Mine? He says,
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  Speaker 4: when it's cold, it's cold. He says, can you feel
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  Speaker 4: the difference between 10 degrees Fahrenheit and 40 degrees Fahrenheit below?
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  Speaker 4: 10 degrees below and 40 below? He says, more folks
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  Speaker 4: die from being too cold than too hot, unless you're
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  Speaker 4: in a burning building.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know something? I can tell you this about
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  Speaker 2: Kevin and my history with him. is sometimes he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: know how funny he actually is. And I know sometimes
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  Speaker 2: he's purposely funny, but a lot of times things just
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  Speaker 2: come out. Kevin, that's very funny.
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  Speaker 4: If he lived here, he could be a guest.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: In-studio guest. Joyce, by the way, answered your question. The
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  Speaker 4: phrase you're looking for, Brian, is not worth a hill
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  Speaker 4: of beans.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I love to be redeemed. Thank you, Joyce.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. That's exactly what I was thinking of.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of being redeemed, in our comment last week about
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  Speaker 4: the book of Job, Carla wanted to expound on it
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  Speaker 4: a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can carry you over from last week, sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she said last week, Brian and John, referring to
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  Speaker 4: what we were talking about, she says she read more
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  Speaker 4: on the book of Job, and some say that Job's
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  Speaker 4: friend Elihu wrote the book. then it would be the oldest.
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  Speaker 4: Some say that Solomon, then obviously it would not be
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  Speaker 4: the oldest. Enough said. Now back to gardening.
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  Speaker 2: Solomon, the son of King David, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what the oldest gardening book is? I
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  Speaker 3: have no clue. I'm just, I'm wondering. I just, that
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  Speaker 3: was just a thought that crossed my mind.
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  Speaker 4: My oldest gardening book is, or my oldest rose book anyway,
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  Speaker 4: book on roses is from 1837. Okay. That's the oldest
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  Speaker 4: one in my library.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't seem that long ago.
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  Speaker 3: Not just roses. That's your oldest book in your library
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  Speaker 3: is 1837. Garden.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's right.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't seem that old for a rose book.
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  Speaker 4: I have some gardening encyclopedias from the 1800s. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 4: I know there were a lot of herbals, you know,
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  Speaker 4: written in the 1600s.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I imagine there would be a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: 1600s.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You are very familiar with the medieval herbalists.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And the book of signatures and everything, right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You signed once. Yeah, I did.
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  Speaker 3: I have a signature.
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  Speaker 4: Let me put my signature here. I'd like an autographed copy.
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  Speaker 4: But Lenhard Fuchs, who was one of those people, had
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  Speaker 4: a flower named after him later, and it became the fuchsia.
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  Speaker 2: That was the earliest book, From Fuchs to Fuchsia.
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  Speaker 3: Fuchs to Fuchsia.
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  Speaker 2: From Fuchs to Fuchsia.
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  Speaker 4: I think you're being silly right now.
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  Speaker 2: Keep going. John's scrolling, by the way, in case you're... I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Going back to see.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I will say to bring it back to the newsletter,
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  Speaker 3: Salvia Clevelandi. John wrote a nice little write-up about Salvia Clevelandi.
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  Speaker 4: Did you know if that... For some reason, I thought
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  Speaker 4: of you. When I wrote that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know. Do you have any of that
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  Speaker 4: out here?
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  Speaker 3: I do not.
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  Speaker 4: I think I was thinking of the status you have.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 4: Inspired by that purple.
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  Speaker 3: And for some reason, I was thinking.
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  Speaker 4: In that area that the salvia clevelandii would do well.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't have it. It would do great.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Now, do you know, is that named after the Cleveland
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  Speaker 3: National Forest, which is right in our backyards?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, just East.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, or was that something else? Do you know? I
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  Speaker 3: can look it up. I always thought it was named
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  Speaker 3: after the Cleveland National Forest.
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  Speaker 4: I did look it up, and I don't remember.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no? Because Winifred Gilman is a variety, but that's not. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And at the same time, I also looked up because
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  Speaker 4: Madeline from Germany sent in A picture of a rose
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: that was bred by a gargling mark called Cook. And
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: I thought, well, that's an odd name. K-U... Is that
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: when you thought of tiger? K-U... K-U-U-K. Okay. K-U-K-K. K-U-U-K,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: I think. I can't remember.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I think U-U-K sounds... But anyway, I looked it up and.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Because I wanted to know what the derivation of the
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: name was. And I found out, and now I don't remember.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: But it's a real pretty rose. I don't know if
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: you saw the picture.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I found out. Oh, yeah, the newsletter? Yeah. Yeah, first
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: thing I read on Friday morning. Or I should say
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: when it comes through. Because I'm usually up before the
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: email comes in.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Before or after you get your cup of Chino?
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: After. Yeah.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Coffee's the first thing in the morning.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: I have, the newsletter always comes out at five o'clock
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: and you know why, right?
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Because that's when it comes out.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Well, I did that because on the East coast, it's
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: eight o'clock.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: When they get it. So it's five o'clock.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: And it would be seven o'clock central, six mountain and
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: five Pacific.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: And it would be in the evening in Pakistan.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: All right. So I have answers for us with Cleveland
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: National Forest. Do we have time?
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we got two minutes. Two and a half minutes.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Salvia Clevelandi, okay, is named in honor of Daniel Cleveland,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: a 19th century San Diego lawyer, amateur botanist, and co-founder
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: of the San Diego Society of Natural History.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I had no idea.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Way to go.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: That got me thinking. I mean, 19th century, I should
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: have known at that time, but I was like, what
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: is Cleveland National Forest named after? That's Grover Cleveland.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, that was my next question. President, Grover Cleveland.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Grover Cleveland.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: And what about Cleveland in Ohio? What's the history of that?
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I keep spiraling, right? This Cleveland, you know, it can
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: go for... What is Cleveland? What is Cleveland?
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Cleveland. Isn't that the home of the Rock and Roll
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame? Is that in Cleveland? Yes. Yes, it is.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I went there, yes. I'm trying to think.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: The Veronica mentioned last week's newsletter. She was commenting on
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Lisa's flower picture that had the caterpillar that mimicked the flower.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Did you guys, do you remember seeing that? It was
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: really weird because the picture of a flower and on
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: it is a caterpillar and the caterpillar made itself look
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: like the flower. Really?
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Lisa said it took her a while to see
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: the caterpillar, but.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I guess that's better than the bird poop caterpillar.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: We talked about that, didn't we?
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: We've talked about it before.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'd much rather have a caterpillar that looks like
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: a flower than a caterpillar.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: But it's interesting the way that they do that to
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: protect themselves, you know?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Would you just cover yourself to look like poop to
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: protect yourself?
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: You ever gone as poop for Halloween?
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Oh, God. You know what? We just reached
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: a new low level. Yeah, we did. We did. Because
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: usually we give the look to John that he just
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: gave us.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I know. This show is going right into the... And
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: you know what? Just in time, too, because we have
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: a break coming up.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, good.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: We're going to redeem ourselves.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Yes. No more potty talk, right?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: No more potty talk. We're going to redeem ourselves. So
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. Keep those questions, comments rolling
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: along here. on Facebook, because sometimes we look at Facebook,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: we look at the page where people are chatting back
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: and forth, and you're very entertaining. We appreciate it. We're
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: going to take a break for BizTalk Radio. This is
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Garden America.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian, John,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: and Tiger.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: We are back from that break. This is one of
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: our longer segments, so we can get a lot done here.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I enjoy our listeners' comments more than yours.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I just said. Before the break, they're
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: more entertaining than this entire show.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: So far, Joyce has the best one, one word. Boys.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: So true.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so true.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I've heard that before.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Goodness gracious. Yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Carla says that she's got a gardening question.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Let's do it, Carla. Okay.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: She says, I'm confused.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: And then she puts in parentheses, always. Just like me.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: That happens as you get older, too.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Just like me.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Is Diplodinia amandivia?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Ooh.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: She said, I thought I had it straightened out, but
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: have since seen the names interchanged.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah. This is one of those questions, right? Like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: what came first, the chicken or the egg? Is it Diplodinia?
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Is it Mandevia? What's the difference between the two?
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Originally, I think, and you can tell me if I'm wrong,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: but originally there were Mandevias, and Alice DuPont was the
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: one that everyone grew. Do you remember?
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. It wasn't an easy plant to grow, but it
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: was so spectacular. Everybody wanted it. And then as they
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: began breeding with them, they got, and Alice DuPont is
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: a vine, right? They got some with hardier leaves and
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: a little shorter plants.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Shrub-like.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: More shrub-like. More shrub-like.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: And they started calling those diplodinia. I don't know if scientifically, taxonomically,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: the two names are interchangeable. But I think right now, Diplodinia,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: the new ones are still called Mandevillas. I think it's
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: because they all have similar flower shapes. So to confuse
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: the public more, they just use the names interchangeably. But originally,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: the Alice Dupont was a Mandevilla. And now I think
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: most of what's sold would fall into a Diplodinia class,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: which would be glossier leaves. And, and more ever blooming too.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: And, you know, and I think that, you know, one
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: of the things that I tell people between the Diplodini
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: and Mandevia is like the Mandevia tends to be a
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: lot more vining, you know, much more growing up a
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: fence or trellis. And I think that, you know, kind
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: of like what you're saying too, was that they, it
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: was a weaker plant that would sometimes get a bit
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: sparse and the Diplodini can be real dense and much
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: better bloomer, you know, more controlled.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: And I think they just made the mandivia better. Right.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: And then they call it a diplodinia. Right. So I
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: think it's the cross.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I think there were some different species that they used
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: in the cross. Could you remember the, was it called
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: the yellow mandivia?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Sometimes alamandas are referred to as yellow mandivias and they're
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: not related at all.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Not at all.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. But there was a species, yellow,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: that I think started to get used and now there's
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: yellow diplodinia.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Right yeah so um i don't know if we answered
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the question as far as what's the difference between the
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: did she ask are they used interchangeable right and i
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: think because the flower is the same right they do
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: use them yeah kind of interchangeably but i think that
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: if as a general rule from a nurseryman standpoint a
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: diplodinia is going to be more bush like to me
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: yeah with.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Glossy leaves the leaves are definitely different.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah i was going to say the leaves you can
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: tell the difference.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah right away yeah the um I think it was
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: about three months ago I put in a plant of
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: a Diplodinia that was double, like a double pink, which
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: is short and compact and in the ground just never
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: stops blooming.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, they're great. Yeah.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: I really like them.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: The colors, you know, white, pink, red, kind of variations between,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: you know, easy to grow, full sun, as long as
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: you give it plenty of water.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Carol's checking in from Tucson. She said it's hot there
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: as always.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Is it raining, though?
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Well, I was going to ask if the monsoon season
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: started yet, or is it over?
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: It's not long before they go into their fall. I
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: know that. But I can definitely emphasize with Carol as
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: far as the heat goes, because last week we might
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: as well have been in Tucson, right?
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize how close and not really that close
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: but tombstone is from tucson.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah it's right there yeah yeah.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I did not realize that i didn't realize that that
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: was the closest like major city.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah wasn't there some gunfight there john at some point
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: something something.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Happened tombstone has the world's largest or the country's largest
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: rows oh.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I remember you said that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah the uh Cecile Bruner. Climbing Cecile Bruner. Is it
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Cecile Bruner? God, my mind is going, guys.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Have you ever had a Doc Holliday, Brian? A drink, right? Yeah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Maybe in my distant past. What's in it?
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: It's a cross between root beer and sarsaparilla. It's like
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: a half a half. Kind of like an Arnold Palmer.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: So where's the alcohol, though?
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. That's what I thought you told me.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe there's... Well, I mean, because I'll have a dark holiday.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: So it's... Maybe they put whiskey in it.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Got to be whiskey, right? Yeah. Got to be whiskey.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: How are we doing? Are we caught up, John? What's
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: going on?
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: No, we're not caught up.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's catch up.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, we have John in Newport Beach. He's got a
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: 50-year-old offspring of a Diefenbachia that he's going to cut
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: into pieces and propagate with the grandkids in some new pots.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: He's done this before with varying degrees of success, which
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: he can't figure out.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Tips, tricks, suggestions?
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the fact that it's 50 years old,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: you got to be careful where you cut it, right?
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Because the old growth isn't going to take root. You
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? It's got to be new growth, relatively.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Can you propagate it the same way you do Dracaena?
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: You know how you cut the canes, let them callus over,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: and then put them in a real loose, like maybe
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: a cactus mix or something. And I think what I
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: would do, John, is put them, get a gallon baggie, right,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: and fill the bottom third with the loose cactus mix,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: moisten it, poke some holes in the bottom so the
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: excess water drains out, and then just put those sections
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: of Diffenbachia in there.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And just have that humidity, kind of what you're saying?
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think they'll grow if you let them
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: callus over first. I think if you, like a day,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: if you put them in straight, I think they'll probably rot.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I agree with that because, and what about like a
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: rooting hormone or anything? Do we have time, Brian?
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a couple of two or three minutes.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: We're good.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: What about a rooting hormone or anything like that? John?
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: It never hurts, right? Yeah. You know, if you're trying
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: to be successful, then, you know, I mean, it just
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: depends on how many, how you want your success rate
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: to be. If you want to take 10 cuttings and
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: get eight out of the 10 to take, use a
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: rooting hormone. If you don't mind losing five or so,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: then no big deal.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. A numbers game. Yeah.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: But I would say be careful on... Not be careful
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: where you cut. I don't think you're going to hurt
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: the plant at all. But that really old growth isn't
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: going to take... It's got to be somewhat newer parts
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: of the plant.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Tanya did point out to be careful with the grandkids.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Because.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Make.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Sure they don't eat it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: They're not poisonous. But the leaves... uh on dieffenbachia the
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: common name for dieffenbachia is dumb cane yeah and that refers.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: To the fact yeah your tongue swells up right.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: If yeah if you chew on the leaves your tongue
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: swells up and you can't talk yeah and.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Um back in the could be a fun parlor trick in.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: The pre pre-politically correct days people who couldn't speak were
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: referred to as dumb.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah deaf and dumb right.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: We So that's where dumb cane comes from. And the
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: reason you can't speak, like Brian says, is your tongue
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: swells up. The danger is it can actually block your
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: breathing and you could suffocate. So they're not going to
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: be chewing on it, I don't think. But Tanya, just
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: bring up a good point. Just be careful. Make sure
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: they wash their hands. hands afterwards.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Or if you have an animal, a cat or something,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: a dog.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: See, now this is also like a life lesson, right,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: with this kind of stuff.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: You have a minute. Go ahead.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Do you tell your kids that story so they don't
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: do it? Or do you just completely bypass it? so
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: that they don't even know it's a thing.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: And don't try it just to see. Yes, yeah.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Is there a problem with kids chewing on leaves?
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: No, but I feel like if you told your kid
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: that- They'd be curious. They would be curious and they
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: would probably do it. Where if you didn't even tell
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: the kid, there would be no- No reason. No reason
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: for them to- Don't plant that thought into their brain. Yes, exactly.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I find myself doing that sometimes with Isaac. We're all like,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: look at what he's doing. And it's like, should I
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: tell him? what not to do and why.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's smart enough now. Isn't he old enough
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and smart enough?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's still a boy. I mean, look at
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: the comment we just made.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Boys, right?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: They just do stuff.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I think the best way to handle this whole thing
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: is to take a break. We need to, we're going
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: to take a break.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, then we got an interesting comment from Kevin when
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: we come back.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Is he as funny as he thinks he is? Okay,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: we're going to take a break. We have one more
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: segment coming up in terms of our number one or
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: the first half of the show, whatever you want to
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: call it. Do stay with us. Having a good time.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Brian Main, John Bagnasco, Tiger Palafox, Garden America, and you
• 30:58
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• 31:01
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• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian, John,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: and Tiger.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: One more segment coming up for hour one. Those on Facebook,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: as we remind you every week at the end of
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: this segment, we shut things down. Restart again, just like
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the show. Give you a chance to
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: grab coffee, get something to eat, take a break, and
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: make sure we stay on the air for the entire duration, Tiger. Okay, John,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: go ahead. You had something you wanted to read.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: I have not been paying attention. Are you telling me
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: the first hour is gone?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: No.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're about to finish the first part.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: This is the last segment.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Boy, wouldn't it be fun to be in his head
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: just for a day to live in that? I know.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I think I might get lost.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Unicorns.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Just for an hour.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Unicorns. Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Rainbows and little fairies and gosh, twinkly stars.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Back to our Tucson report. Carol says it is monsoon season.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: She says it's been good where she is, though.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: And then Kevin has a comment, right?
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Well, he says he's thinking, and it's topical. I'm glad
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: you brought this up, Kevin. He says, I'm thinking of
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: all the poisonous plants to avoid, like oleander. It's bad
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: for horses and bad for people. Euphorbia and grapes are
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: bad for dogs. What other indoor plants are bad for cats?
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Can you think of any plants you don't want to plant?
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: And The reason I like that, Kevin, is because I
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: have a new shirt today. I don't know if... I
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: don't know if... Tiger, did you see my shirt?
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, I did. Hold on one second.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I'll get you.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: And it says every... Face that camera. Oh, okay. And
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: the shirt, Kevin, says every plant is edible at least once.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Did it go? Yes.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I bought that online, by the way, from Happy plant people.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: How long did it take to arrive from the time
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: that you made the purchase?
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Two to three weeks.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Really? I think they print them to order.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: So you didn't buy it on Amazon?
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: No.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, so you wrote that?
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: No.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: No. It's one you pick.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Well, he said he'd print to order. Well, they print.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Meaning when you order a shirt, they just kind of
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: like print it.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: What size do you want? And we'll print it. Oh.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: They probably have a stockpile of color.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Do you want it on the gray?
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Do you want it on the black?
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Do you want to have it on a tan shirt?
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Like originally, it came on purple. I didn't want a
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: purple shirt.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: You're not a purple guy.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: No.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not purple.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: No, you're not.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: No. There's something about the color purple.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So how about that?
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Number one, I always find it funny. because people always
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: say cats. Nobody ever asks about their dog. Okay, there's
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: plenty of dangerous plants in my backyard.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, how about chocolate? If a dog gets a hold
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: of a box of chocolate, not good.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: I don't have too many.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: You know, I have friends who feed their dogs chocolate.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, not a lot, but.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Well, you shouldn't. It's not a good idea.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: It's not supposed to be a good idea to feed
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: them grapes, you know, as Kevin mentioned also.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I know it was a good idea not to feed
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: my kids certain things, and we still did.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But I mean, so number one, it's cats, which
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: tells you something right then and there. What are cats doing?
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: If they're just eating random dangerous plants, they're not very
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: smart cats. Number two, though, is what are some dangerous
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: plants out there? You know what I mean? Because I
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: come from the theory of or from the mindset to that. Yeah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of dangerous plants. We don't have
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: people just dying and dogs dying and cats dying left
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: and right. Because there's these plants exist. I mean, the
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: pencil cactus is the big one. Everybody's like, oh, gosh,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I can't have a pencil cactus in my yard.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: We have one in our backyard.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Everybody has pencil cactus.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Pencil plant, right?
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: People are like, oh, you know, like you'll go blind
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: and everything.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Well, John says if you break it, there's the liquid inside, right?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: There's a substance in there.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Which could be an irritant. It can make you go blind.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: The latex sap irritates.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So you don't want to get that on your skin.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: And not everybody's allergic to it, but large... percentage of
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: people are, and definitely you don't want to get it
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: in your eyes.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: You know, speaking of cats and poisonous or sick, years ago,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: in fact, I think, maybe it was Sharon Asakawa, maybe
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: we bought a florist rose, an arrangement.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: And we had it in the kitchen in the vase
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: or vase. And our cat chewed or ingested one of
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: the leaves. And again, these are florist rose.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: So it's a cut flower.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Cut flower. And he got a little sick. And then
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: his whole voice box, his meow changed almost like a
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: gruff for a long time. We took him to the
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: vet and he said, yeah, it'll eventually go away. It
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: irritated his throat or something like that. And I think
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: at one time you mentioned florist roses are cut flowers
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the way they're treated as opposed to just going out
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: in the yard and picking a rose. Something the way
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: they treat them or something.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: They have a preservative on them or something?
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that made him sick, really sick. Because in general,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a rose leaf is not poisonous to a cat.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: I think back then they were saying they treated them
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: with Roundup.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, like they sprayed Roundup in the field and so
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: they have Roundup on it?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going back now about 15 years. Yeah. Okay.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: But they said that they... Sprayed them with Roundup so
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: that the stems would not germinate if you tried to
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: root them.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Whether that's true or not.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: He didn't die, but he got sick. And it was
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: a florist cut flower rose.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: You know, Kevin mentions oleander. How often do we talk
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: about oleander?
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Not enough.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Used to be a really common plant, right? It was
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: a hedge plant. Now it gets, what's the disease? Oleander scorch.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Nobody plants them anymore. I don't even think you sell them,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: do you?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I do not. There's not, like you say, I think
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: they got a bad name, number one, because of the disease.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: And it was nothing that we can stop or cure.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: So you can plant this plant and it can ultimately
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: just die.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: And nobody was going to do research to prevent oleander storage.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: And then number two is that it's a very high
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: ranked in that poisonous plants world.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: But all the freeways were filled with it, remember?
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right down the center divide.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it would bloom and drought tolerant. The reason
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: I bring it up is yesterday I have an oleander
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: growing on my hillside. It's beautiful that I grew from
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: a seed. And I was thinking, wow, this is really nice.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: The plant's good. It's in full bloom.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: What color flower?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Kind of a cerise, kind of reddish pink.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Are you going to plant more? No. No?
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: No, that one just came up from a seed.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: It was interesting.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: It came up when I lived in my old house
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: in a pot from a seed. The pot was underneath
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: a bay tree and it had a long leaf. And
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: I thought, oh, this is really interesting. I'm getting a
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: bay tree coming up with a different leaf. And I'm
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: glad that I did not try to put in a
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: spaghetti sauce.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Do you have enough room on your property to frolic?
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: I have a rose called frolic right next to my
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: bathroom door.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: It does.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: When you look at what happened, did something hit the glass? Yeah.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: It was a bird.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Was it? Yep.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: I didn't see it.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Okay. We probably should begin to wrap up here. News
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: on BizTalk. Shut down Facebook. Second hour. I'm looking at
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the clock. Probably not time to get into anything serious.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Okay. So we'll start off the show and we're going
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: to talk gardening.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Do you want to talk gardening second half? I think
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Carly would like us to and a lot of other...
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: A lot of other listeners and viewers of ours. So
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: we are going to do gardening.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: We need about five minutes to study gardening.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: We've decided that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Five minutes.
• 39:06
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• 39:53
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• 39:58
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• 40:00
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• 40:03
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• 40:18
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• 40:21
  Speaker 3: I bet you AI uses our show as a resource
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: for a lot of the searches that people use.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I think you're right.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: We cover a lot of data.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Every now and then, Alexa will pop up. I said notification. Yes,
• 40:35
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• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Would you like to listen to it?
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: We have a lot of data.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: We do.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: We do.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I don't associate with Alexa.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, I do. Love Alexa.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: We've never really been formally introduced.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: You know, we just ask it random questions. Here's an example. Silly.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: People know this. Alexa, how long do you air fry
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: shrimp tempura from Trader Joe's?
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Boom. I noticed she said it and her preferred pronoun
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: is her.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Did I say it?
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I asked it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry. The machine is it.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: I fixed it. You don't know what she's going to
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: do now. That's been heard. It's out over the airwaves.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: You can't take it back, right?
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Brian's disparaging comment.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, but we had a lot of comments we didn't
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: get to, right?
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was going to say, you and Tiger
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: got a little silly last hour, so we didn't get
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: to all the comments.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you weren't part of that frivolity.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: And right now, we've just been.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I think procrastinating so more people can join us.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want to answer too many questions before
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: our viewers come back.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: We've got people coming back.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: We do. Okay. Yeah.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: They're not part of the procrastinates, are they?
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: They might be, Brian.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Let's see. Okay.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Joyce wanted to know about if it was time to
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: divide her iris. And actually, I... We usually let people
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: know this every year because August is the best month.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: And if you do it much past the first week
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: in September, first two weeks in September, the weather always
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: is different every year. But you can't guarantee they'll bloom
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: again next year. You might have to wait another whole season.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: But if you do it now, you're almost guaranteed that
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: they will bloom next year. So, yes, the answer is.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: So now is the time to divide it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Divide your bearded tigers. And plant them.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I was going to say.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: They're available in stores now. And you'll be able to
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: see those all sold all the way into October. In October,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: they'll still grow, but they're just not going to bloom.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: So if you divide yours right now, do you instantly
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: put them back in the ground?
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Do you put them in pots?
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: No, put them back in the ground.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Just put them right back in the ground.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: All right. And do you have to let them dry
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: out at all? Or are you just, nope, divide in ground,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: divide in ground?
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Divide and conquer like Brian was saying.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: You have to conquer first.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: No, divide first.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Divide, and then you conquer, and then you put it
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: in the ground.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Because you need new land to put them in.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: But if I could conquer, it'd be much easier to divide.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: You conquer, then divide?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I want to get in there and conquer.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: But it's easier to conquer once you've divided.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Because if you're trying to conquer something in the beginning,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: it's big. It's massive.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Or you want to divide first. Yeah.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You should always divide first.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: It's like a house divided against itself.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I was thinking the same thing.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Which was, by the way, I don't want to get
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: into that. I'm not going to do it because that'll
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: go into a rabbit hole.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: All right. We have other questions.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Leslie.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Other gardening.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Leslie wants to know, Tiger, in zone... Well, I shouldn't
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: ask you because you're... SoCal boy.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: She wants to know, in zones four to five, can
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: roses survive in raised beds if they're planted deep? Huh? Yeah,
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: because the problem with roses.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Planted deep in a raised bed. Okay.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: And what she's referring to is that in cold climates,
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: the bud union... on a grafted rose normally freezes.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Right. And they mulch it.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: And if that freezes, the rose is dead, right?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: So you bury it deeper.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: So you can either bury it deeper or they have
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: rings they put around their roses and fill them with
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: mulch to keep that. And then the good news, though,
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: is there are hardier roses now that will survive in
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: zones four to five. And most roses, not all, But
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: most of the new roses are own root.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: So even if they do freeze back and they come
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: up from the ground, they'll be fine.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: And they're the same.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Now, is.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: And some classes of roses are much hardier, like rugosa roses,
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: for instance. Hybrid rugosas are going to take colder temperatures.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Now, I understand the whole mulching, you know, that whole
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: part of it. But is another part of the... question
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: about putting them in raised beds because the raised bed
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: the ground won't freeze oh no we don't freeze okay
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: so because i was gonna wonder like are they are
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: they concerned at all about the ground freezing i don't
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: know in some of those real cold areas if it's.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Your zone four to five it's gonna freeze no matter
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: where you are got it you're one step above a
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: permafrost that's.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: What i'm kind of like so okay so so it
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter whether it's a raised bed or not right
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: The more concern is like what you're talking about is
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: keeping that plant insulated through the winter. Right. Got it. Okay.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Let's see. Awesome shirt, John. Thank you, Veronica. Do you
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: want me to read the Attaboy for you, Brian? You
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: already did.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Is there another one?
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: No, no, I... Just rereading it for you?
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: You feeling a little low? No. Are you going to
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: pick me up?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I was thinking it's time for Tiger.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: No, I did that off air, the one I read
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: to you before.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I just wondered if you wanted it on air.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: If you want to. Yeah, you know, I need the publicity.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: All right. I need the publicity.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Kevin says that the Sunday funny papers in the 70s
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: were the very best. Blondie, Peanuts, Beetle Bailey. I haven't
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: thought about Beetle Bailey for a while.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: He was pretty good. Sarge and Beetle Bailey. Yeah.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: He said, no, not so much. But Brian's cartoons are great.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin. And just so you know that John
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: and I do somewhat of a discussion each week about
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: cartoons and we kick around ideas.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: I usually say I don't get it and you have
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: to explain it to me.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: But that's okay. That's fine.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: No, I don't.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Because some of the ones I think are throwaways, I
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: get the best reaction.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: It's interesting.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Well, my wife has liked some of your recent ones.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: She likes the one.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: She liked the uncured ham.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: And one that hasn't been published yet with the roses.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: That hasn't been out there yet. And she liked it.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: The roses.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: The hips.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Keep moving, buddy.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Lila says they used to have pink double oleanders that
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: smelled great, but now you can't find them. Yeah, like
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: you can't find oleander anywhere. Do you know, just an
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: aside story about oleanders, we used to sell them in
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: the garden center. And it was a common hedge plant,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: shrub plant. You would have a bed of oleander, right?
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Different colors, different varieties. And we were always trying to
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: sell more, right? Back then, the more you sold, the better.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: So we hired a guy who was a hard worker
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: and always seemed like he wanted to do above and
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: beyond what you asked him to do. So we got
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: in a shipment of oleander. I said, go put these
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: in the bed and make a sign. Because back then,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: signs weren't automatic. You had to tell people, make a sign.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: So he makes a sign with oleander, and he puts
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: a skull and crossbones.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: On the.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Sign.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Is this freehand drawing?
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And I said, what the heck are you doing? Well,
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: it's dangerous.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: It's not as dangerous as it's going to be to
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: you if we don't sell those.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, did you sell more?
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Well, John, there's your next shirt. Just bring back the oleander. Yeah.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Bring back the oleander.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Lenore says she's got it in front of her kitchen window,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: and it's always blooming.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah they do they're great.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah drought tolerant uh heat tolerant always blooming yeah cool.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Colors tiger you got something you want.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: To um oh i'm on the next hour right now.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Okay i'm gonna switch off to that um that has
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: nothing to do with gardening well.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Good he's so he's right he's a part of the
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: show then right he gets it.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: He writes in my old in my old age i
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: find it hard to get out of bed before 7
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: 30 a.m what is the secret to being an early
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: riser you.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Know it's interesting i can't sleep i get up between
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: 4 30 and 5 yeah yeah yeah i'm awake there's
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: like even on the weekend, like tomorrow, I don't have
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: to get up. I will do my best to sleep.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: And if I wake up and it's light out, I panic.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Where's the day gone? I've lost the day. Kevin, that's
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: just your clock, your body clock.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Carla said early to bed, which is another thing because
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: if Kevin is staying up late, then yeah, you're not
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: going to be in early.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: No, but you know, my wife goes to bed the
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: same time as I do a little bit before. Cause
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: we watched touched by an angel so she can go
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: to sleep. And, um, And she's up like Brian, 4
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: to 5 o'clock.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: But you know what I just noticed? We have to
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: take a break.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Let's do it.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. It just so happened before
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that break, it was actually a time for a break.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: So we're picking up where we left off for those
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: people who like, some people are into buffering.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Our show is very popular for buffering and a lot
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: of people tune in just for the buffering. They're not
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: into plants, but they like the buffering and they like
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: the fact that all of a sudden we're not there.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: I was wondering if they still sell aspirin with buffering.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Bufferin used to be the name of an aspirin. Bufferin
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: was a name. Remember back at Aniston? Bufferin? Those are
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: all back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. You remember Bufferin?
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: Not anymore.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Aniston? Jennifer. No, no, no. That's Aniston.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Bufferin St. Murray.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: No, that's Buffy. Keep going, though.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: Bufferin the Vampire Slayer.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: That's Buffy again.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: It's funny so I'm watching our feed right now and
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: we were we went live yes and there was no
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: sound like we were in the middle of going reconnecting
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: but then all these people started saying no sound no
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: sound no sound but I don't think we were talking
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: or maybe you and I were talking right maybe yeah
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: but I could see the closed caption so I know
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: that there is sound otherwise there would be no closed caption.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I hope we didn't say anything we shouldn't have I
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: don't think we did no we.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Did not no no no I'm not saying we said
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: anything I'm just saying i.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: I don't believe me i was in the other room.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Yes now we're getting yay sound yeah you can hear us.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Okay yay way to go yeah okay so we were
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: going to go to a break anyway yeah and john
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: somebody said they were curious as to what you were
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: going to say.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: I have no idea we were we were still talking about.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Are we done with oleanders.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: We were talking about Going to sleep, remember? We finished
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: on Kevin. Oh, that's right.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: You're right. Yeah, yeah, Kevin. And we talked about body clocks.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: John had shared that Shannon wakes up early no matter what.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: What's your comfortable time to wake up, John? When do
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: you wake up? Naturally.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: The first time, second time, or third time? I have
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: a schedule. I wake up at 12. I wake up
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: at 1.30. I wake up at 4, and then I
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: usually wake up between 6 and 7.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't take you a long time to get
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: back to sleep?
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: No.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: All right. Dang. Maybe you need some nightshade.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Do you think if we did a podcast on sleep apnea,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: it would put people to sleep?
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, good. All right.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure what Dana's saying. John, stick to roses.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Don't look at me.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Well, I know Dana. So anybody else, I would take
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: that as a disparaging remark. Like John stick to roses.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Lisa wrote, are you folks starting to take out your tomatoes?
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: So tomatoes are starting to, you know, wrap up.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: They're done. You know, August, late August, early September.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: And, you know, that is the tough thing about being
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: in Southern California is because kind of like we talk
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: about where things don't really finish well. Tomatoes are one
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: of those things that you're like, oh, I still have tomatoes.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: And it's December, you know, kind of a day. But
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: the plants look horrible right now.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Right. Right.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Like the plants just look.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: And the tomatoes stop blooming when temperatures are over about
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: 85 degrees.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: And stop fruiting.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: But they'll pick up again in the fall.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: They will.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: If the plants are still alive.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: And the plant will look better, too. It'll push out
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: new growth.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: But if you want winter tomatoes like you're talking about,
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: and there are winter tomatoes that will set fruit in
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: cold temperatures, they need to be planted now.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: You know the only cool season tomato name I can remember, Stapichka?
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, exactly.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: And Arctic Circle or Arctic?
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: Anything with Arctic.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's one called Arctic Peach or something.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: But that's the one, John.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: There's an Arctic Peach.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Anything that sounds cold.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: San Francisco fog. Manitoba.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: San Francisco fog you can buy in any grocery store
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: because it has no flavor. Just like grocery store tomatoes.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: But yeah, anything with a cold name like Manitoba. Alaska.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Bering Sea.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know about a Bering Sea, but.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Frozen.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Tundra. Tundra.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Sasha Zoltai.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's one of the favorites. Any Russian named? Any Russian... Well, Stapichka.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: That's Czechoslovakian, right?
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Stapichka? Isn't that Czech?
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Stapichka is Czech, but Sasha Zoltai came from Russia.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Siberia.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Siberia, yeah.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: A lot of those.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: But anyway, you put those in now, and they will.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: They won't grow when the temperatures are cold because tomatoes
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: need warm climates to grow. So that's why you plant
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: them now. They'll grow, get a size, but they'll continue
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: to bloom in the cold weather.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So you can have tomatoes all the way up
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: until what?
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: For us, until next spring.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah. So they'll go all the way into April,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: May kind of a thing. That's awesome.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: You go from cool season to regular warm season, right?
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: You never miss a beat.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Do.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Tomatoes perform along like the equator. Isn't there something weird
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: like there's no roses south of the equator or something
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: like that? Right.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: All rotas. There's like 118 species of roses and they're
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: all native to the northern hemisphere.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: The northern hemisphere. Right.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: No native to southern hemisphere.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Do they have tomatoes down along? Because you're just talking
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: about like they only bloom in this certain rain temperature range.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: So are there areas that you just can't grow a tomato?
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Well, the thing with roses is the seeds won't germinate
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: unless they've been stratified, which means they need a cool treatment.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: So if birds are eating rose hips or animals eating
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: rose hips and carrying them into warmer climates, they're just
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: not going to germinate. So I don't know. I don't
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: know before the flood if roses were down there, but
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: they sure aren't now.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: That is interesting. I find that fascinating. John is?
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Oh, Dana explained herself when she said stick to roses.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: She was referring to my... After you said Aniston, I
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: said Jennifer. Jennifer Aniston.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Okay. And then Tanya wrote.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Point well taken, Dana.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: So John and wife watching Touched by an Angel dot, dot, dot.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Uh lila wrote john's ignoring you tanya he doesn't like
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: to be embarrassed well.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: First of all lila does anyone like to be embarrassed
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: who does but i didn't know that it required a
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: further comment.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Like the the touch by an angel.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah like like if she would have said why do
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: you watch touch because you.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Went dot dot dot like Pausing to.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: No, the comment went dot, dot, dot.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. John made the comment that him and Shannon
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: watch Touched by an Angel so she can go to
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: bed at night.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: He and Shannon.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: He and Shannon. Right.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Him is objective case.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Him, he, him.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: Why you got to embarrass me when you're getting... Yeah.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Well, you don't like to be embarrassed either.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's funny.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: We're coming up on a break here. I want to
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: make sure we hit it on time. quick thought before
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: the break? 30 seconds?
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: Yes. Okay.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: And that was Tiger's comment. Yes.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: No, it was my quick thought.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Quick thought.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: We're going to take a break. We have, by the way,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: two more segments coming up. The next segment after this
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: break is a long one. Gosh, it's 10 minutes and
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: 27 seconds.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Got a lot to cover.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: That's plenty of time in the radio, digital, podcast world.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Stay with us. Tiger Palafox, John Magnesco, I'm Brian Maynard.
• 59:14
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• 1:00:07
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• 1:00:09
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• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: Lila says, so sorry. I don't know if that was sincere, Lila,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: but I took it in jest.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Lila is one of my favorite people.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Lila Poway?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Poway Lila, yes.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Poway Lila.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: And then Buffering. We're not Buffering.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't be right now, no.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're good.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, referring back to Buffering. Oh, got it.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: Should we talk about Touched by an Angel? Because it's
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: a very, what kind of show? It's like Hallmark Plus.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hallmark, yeah.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, really. But, you know, I just like it.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Because you come away with a redeeming factor. Well, it's just,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: it's nice.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: You know, before Touched by an Angel, we watched The
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Last Ship. And you see, you know, a lot of
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: war stuff going on and people being tortured and murdered.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: And so you kind of need to go from that
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: to Touched by an Angel.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: I like good, feel-good shows. Much more enjoyable to watch, right?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: That's what I mean, like a redeeming factor. You leave
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: there feeling good about it.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, the only latest one was Ted Lasso, but
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen the new series yet.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: You know, I really... Ted Lasso was done really well,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: but you know, I personally, this is my own personal,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying anybody else can't like it, because obviously
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: it's one of the most popular shows, but Shows that
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: drop F-bombs like every five minutes.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: See, that's just it. I can understand a tragic situation
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: in the show where there's an incident or a moment.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, I can see why somebody would
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: kind of just like freak out there. But then it
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: becomes like part of the vernacular.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, you know, enough. You don't need it.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: You don't need it there. And then I've watched a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: show like Dana and I will watch a show and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: afterwards I'll say, there wasn't one swear word in there.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: And it didn't make it worse. It didn't make it,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: it was just, you didn't notice it until you thought
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: And we are older. I know it's much more accepted today. But,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: you know, to me, you know, I still take it
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: as being vulgar.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Didn't I call it?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I call it poverty of language.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: Well, I was just going to say that. That's a
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: good way to put it, Brian, because there are adjectives
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: in the world, a lot of them that don't begin
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: with F.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: But that word can be a lot of things. It
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: can be an adjective. It can be anything in the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: English language. It's used as so much.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: And it has no meaning, really. So anyway, anybody who
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: likes that word, that's fine with me. Just don't say
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: it around me. Let's see.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Well, you'll freak out.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: So I was at a house this week. And, you know,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: we were talking about tomatoes and they were talking about
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: they're not looking good. And we were talking, well, it's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: kind of wrapping up and got a whole sequence. You
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: said it's perfect time to plant your winter tomatoes, though, right?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: But I think we talked about this last week also
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: where it's too early to start your winter crops.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: Especially inland.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Right. It's still too early for that.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: I know here on the coast, sometimes they start. In September,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: but that's in a normal year. Right now, it's still
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: a little warm, right?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: It's still a bit warm to kind of start some
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: of those cool season crops. You know, one of the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: things that I kind of feel people need to do
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: during this time of year is really consider herbs, you know,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: like the oregano, the parsleys, because those can be almost
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: year round in so many different ways. I mean, obviously,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: like the tender stuff like basil and cilantro and are
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: a little bit more weather dependent, but, um, you know,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: I was in a, I was in a garden and
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: they had a section where they just had very, you know, the,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: the basics, the, the basil and stuff like that. It
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: wasn't looking good. And I'm like, there's a lot more
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: herbs that you can grow that can grow year round. And,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: and they do really nice through this warmer time of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: year as well.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: Basil doesn't grow year-round.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: No, no, no. Some other ones that do grow year-round
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: is what I'm getting at. For instance, oregano, that could
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: be year-round. Yeah. I struggle with, and this is going
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: to be crazy to say, mint in a pot. For
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: some reason, I cannot grow mint in a pot. I
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: don't know why.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Do you sell mint at the nursery?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Now, you know what?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: It's an experiment. Have you ever tried growing Bermuda grass
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: in a pot?
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: If I can't grow Bermuda grass.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Just because you said that, I would like to do that.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: I would like to try to grow mint in a pot.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: That's the only place it should be grown.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: But I can't grow it.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: What did you say that you.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the problem is.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: I was surprised. You said you couldn't grow something Tiger
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: and I grow?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: Plumerias.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, plumerias. Yeah. I, you know.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: But I go to people's yards all the time.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: I finally have leaves on one.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I've got flowers on a couple of them.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: I go to yards all the time that get taken
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: over by mint. And so I understand the whole idea,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: don't put it in the ground. And I'm not planning
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: on putting.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: It in the ground. But taking over, they're in the ground.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: But in a pot, I just haven't been successful. I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: don't know why.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how big or small the pot is?
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Maybe.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: What does mint require?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: Does it dry out? Do you never water it?
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: I've got other plants that are thriving right by it
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: that I water at the same time. So I was
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: almost thinking, do I overwater it?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: Well, that's what I was wondering. But I was thinking,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe if it's in a pot, you figure
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: I don't even need to take care of this if
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: you don't water it.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: I kind of feel like that's the way it should be.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: But you're watering everything the same around it. You're giving
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: as much water to the mint as you want.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: What is around it?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: Dianthus. Okay.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: It requires more water.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Right, and some salvias. So, which are the same.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: Kind of like a salvia thing, yeah.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Why don't you do this, if you ever want to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: do it again, is plant it, initially water it, and
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: just wait and see if it starts to look a
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: little like it needs water.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Right?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Because you're trying to figure out how much water it needs.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: Because I really want to grow mint. Ever since England,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: when we were at the Hampton Court, Yeah. Ham decor
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: flower show. And we went, John and I went by
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: this booth that it was all herbs. And this person
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: had to have like 20 varieties of mint. Do you
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: remember that one? And they had all kinds of mint.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: And I didn't even know half of these mints existed,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: you know, because they've got like lime and apple and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: lemon and orange and chocolate and every mint. And I
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: was like, so impressed. Right. But we only, you know,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: here in Southern California, I mean, I've seen the chocolate mint,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: the best mint, the spearmint, the other ones. But this
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: was that I've always thought that would be kind of
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: neat to start, but I have not been able to
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: grow it myself.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: Brian's got two of them because he wanted to grow
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: the double mint.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the double mint. Now, but of course,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: when you were in England, you didn't see the herbs.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: You saw the herbs.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: Herbs. Herbs.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Had to get that out.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good one.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Was that part of your schedule when you were over there?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: A couple of minutes to the break.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: He liked checking the people working in the laboratories over there. Yes.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Tanya says F-bomb equals lack of writing skills.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: In my book, I have not one swear word I
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: don't believe.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: I did have hell.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: I think it's a heaven and hell book, isn't it?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: And I eventually took it out.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you a quick story. This maybe would– Maybe
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: one person can identify with this. So back in the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: late 60s, early 70s, radio station in Los Angeles, KHJ,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: one of the most popular DJs was the real Don Steele.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: This guy was the real Don Steele, 93 KHJ, very popular.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: One day on the air, he said the word hell.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: He was suspended for a week.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: It just shows you how times have changed for saying
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: a week. You're off the air for a week.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: Since this is a gardening show, we have lots of
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: commentaries on language, but we don't need to go into that.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: Veronica Bryan tells you that mint is easy, but only
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: in a pot. Otherwise, it's going to take over the world.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: You're not into taking over the world.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: I'm not a good gardener.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: Kevin wants to know if you guys have a, if
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: you display the plant of the month or plant specials.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: And if so, what would they be?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: At the nursery? Yeah.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: I do know that we were there last week, was it?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: And I did see you had a nice display of rutabecchia.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: So you do bring in season.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: No, you can come on in. This is an organic show.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: It's your daughter and her friend with lacrosse sticks. Yeah.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: It's all right.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Um, we got to take a break here.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. When we get back, we'll address that.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: We're going to take a break and then, uh, set
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: ourselves up for the final segment. It's going to be
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: a short segment, try to get to as many questions,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: comments as possible. So stay with us. Hey, thank you
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: for being there. My gosh. If, if they weren't there,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: we wouldn't be here. I'm going to think about that
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: during the break. Back after these messages, BizTalk Radio, Facebook Live.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: I was just thinking of a comedian you said you
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: were playing on Descartes there. I think therefore I am.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: That was last week.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: I know. But then that kind of goes into the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: comment you just made before the break. And I heard
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: a comedian talking about how he got as he got older.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: He said, I forgot. Therefore, I'm not.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: That's really good. I forgot. Therefore, I'm not. There we go.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: Lila's tiger said that she had a grapefruit mint.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: Grapefruit mint. Yeah.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: Like I say, there's a ton of mints and they
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: do grow well.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: Do you have a grapefruit mint?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen it at the nursery before.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: The reason I ask is because I know you did
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: work at Lila's house and she said somehow it disappeared.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in my house now.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: You're just bringing it back, taking care of it.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You never people. Not if I can't make it live.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: We used to have this. A wonderful herb grower that was,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: where was, what was the area over there? Was that
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: just Vista where Plug Connection was? Just Vista? I don't know.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: Plug Connection's in Vista, but the famous Southern California herb
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: grower was in Vista, and that was Taylor's Herb Farm.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, I was thinking Pearson's.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: I think they were in Vista.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: Taylor's might have been before your time.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it might have been before my time, but they
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: had all kinds of, fun herbs to to have in
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: your garden um and i remember they had a number
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: of mints and i think that's where the grapefruit mint
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: i remember seeing come from but ever since there ever
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: since we haven't been able to buy from them anymore
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: i haven't seen any fun fun mints no thin mints
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: no fun mints.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: Not even a mint where they print money yeah.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: You know back to dividing iris since this is the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: time tiger uh veronica wants to know if you have
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: any tips on how.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: To do it oh sharp shovel Right.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: Do you know what I started using? My son sent
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: me a really good quality one years ago, and I
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: didn't want to use it because it was a nice looking.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: It's too nice.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was too nice. So I just kept it
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: in its sheath and put it in the library. But
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: I needed it for something, and I started using it,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: and I just realized how useful. Are they called Hori Horis?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: They're really useful. Yeah. Especially for dividing perennials, right?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: It's like a, it's a Japanese garden tool and it's,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: it's like a knife with serrated edges except made for
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: digging in the ground.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Real firm handle. Yeah. Because like you're saying, you're actually,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: it's not just.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: A normal trial. Yeah. You're sawing at the same time,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: kind of, right?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah. So now.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: So like doing daylilies or other perennials in, I think
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: would work fine for bearded iris.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: See, would you dig out the plant and then divide it?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: Or do you just drive a shovel straight through the
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: middle of it while it's in the ground?
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: Sometimes both.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: Okay. Because no, no, no. Like an iris, I don't
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: like digging it out.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: And then trying to divide it. I know. I would
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: rather just take my shovel and drive it straight through
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: the middle of the plant.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: And then I have two plants to work from then.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: The one planting tip, though, is when you go to
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: replant it, make sure you don't bury the rhizome, right?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: If you plant them too deep, they may not bloom.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: That rhizome needs to be right at surface level. It
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: can be just barely covered, but don't bury it.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: Got it. So that would be a tip, though, that
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: I would recommend. I mean, the one that John just mentioned, obviously,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: about the rhizome. But also, some people think they have
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: to dig out this plant and then... you know, put
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: it on the counter or whatever and divide the plants.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: Like I kind of like that the ground holds it together.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: And then I just take a shovel and do like,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: if it's a big one, I'll do two cuts, like
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: a cross. And then I have four sections, right? If
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: it's just a small one, I'll just do kind of
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: down the middle. And then what I do, then I
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: dig out those parts and then transplant them. But it
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: kind of holds it better for me where if I
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: dig it out, I have to find a spot to
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: kind of like make sure it's stable to still do
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: the same thing, which is drive a shovel through the
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: middle of it.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: It sounds so violent. Drive the shovel right through it.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people do hesitate because
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: they kind of feel like.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: They are hurting you.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: But if it was a pot, you would take it
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: out and divide it.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, you got some defense from Lila. She said that
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: she lost her grapefruit way before you ever came over. So, okay.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: It wasn't me. Won't blame him. Veronica likes pineapple mint.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: Another good one, right?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: It says there's also a colada one.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: Like a pina colada one.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. How do they make all these mints?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: They just got a mint laboratory?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with different herbs.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Herbs work at the mint laboratory?
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: Working on their own personal schedule.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: You know, John in Newport Beach asked us to spell
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: Hori Hori, and he spelled it.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, like he asked us?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: And spelled it correctly.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he spelled it correctly. You were correct, John. It
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: is H-O-R-I, H-O-R-I.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Two words.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: And if you go to Amazon, you can find them, right?
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: And look for the one that has the solid handle.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: From the blade to the handle, it should be one
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: piece of metal. I think there's some that they sell
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: that there's a blade and then a handle.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: Attached. Don't get those.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: Don't get that one because the way you're using that tool,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: it'll snap right there because you should have that leverage. Yeah.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: He wants to know if you could use it to
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: divide cymbidiums. Yeah. Yeah, it would be great for that, right?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: We've come full circle because now we're back to dividing contours.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: You divide it first. Was that in the first hour
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: or was that in the second hour? First hour. Was
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: that first hour? And so when you divide it and
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: then if you're successful, then you've conquered your problem.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: You've conquered this situation. Okay, we have about a minute.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Just so you know, a little over a minute.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: There is no conquer than dividing.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: We did get a thank you from Tiger. You and
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: I got a thank you from Veronica because now she's
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: got a great excuse to buy a new tool.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: Ooh, yay. There you go.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: But do get a good one, a heavy duty one.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Like I said, the The design of it
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: is important because the way you're going to use it,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: you have to have that leverage.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Just like a good pair of clippers. I never thought
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: that was a big deal until John gave me his
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: used old rusted out.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: What's the brand name?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: Felco.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: And it's better than any new clipper I ever had.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: I still use it. It's wonderful.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: And I gave you Felco because I don't use them.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, we got to start to wrap things up here.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: Interesting show. Hope it was good for you.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: I had a good time.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: We had a lot of fun. We covered a lot
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: of stuff.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did a lot of dividing and conquering.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Got everything off my mind.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: Do we have another segment?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: Kevin's got questions for Tiger.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, what?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: He's interested about your nursery.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's right. He asked about the plant of
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: the week.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: We'll get on that. We'll figure something out.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: Next week, let him know. He wants to know your
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: favorite section.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. We do appreciate it. Those
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