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- 0:00Imagine some time away by yourself or with your best friend.
- 0:04You go away, you wake up when you want or when the sun wakes you up,
- 0:09go to bed when you want or when the sun goes to bed if you're tired,
- 0:14come back feeling so refreshed after walks in nature, cups of tea with the sunset.
- 0:22Books, just a super relaxing time.
- 0:26That is what I do every single summer. I call it my introvert retreat.
- 0:31And I get questions all the time about what do you do and how can I have one?
- 0:36So that's what we're going to talk about on today's podcast.
- 0:38This is the Health with Hashimoto's podcast. I'm Esther.
- 0:42And yes, this introvert retreat does pertain to Hashimoto's.
- 0:46It also pertains to just regular life.
- 0:49I find especially it's women who want to do this.
- 0:53I have not had a lot of guys, I don't think any guys asking me how to do it,
- 0:58but women, they hear about my time away and I want to do that. It sounds amazing.
- 1:04So first of all, how would it pertain to Hashimoto's stress?
- 1:08When you are stressed, your immune system is, it's under a significant burden
- 1:15And the more chronic the stress and the higher the stress, the more of a burden that is.
- 1:21And when your immune system is under that stressful burden, it doesn't work as well.
- 1:26It goes a little haywire and it attacks things that it shouldn't.
- 1:30And when your immune system starts to attack things that it shouldn't,
- 1:33we call that autoimmune disease.
- 1:35When yourself is attacking yourself, autoimmune disease.
- 1:39All autoimmune diseases are diseases of the immune system.
- 1:43They are your body, your immune system getting confused and attacking yourself.
- 1:48Now there's a lot of names for different autoimmune diseases,
- 1:52and they do differ slightly in some triggers, especially that genetic trigger.
- 1:59We all have a genetic disposition for certain things. That doesn't mean that
- 2:03you are going to get that thing.
- 2:05It just means that you have that gene. The gene still needs to turn on or off and you can impact that.
- 2:12I do have an episode about nutrigenomics that's using nutrition to turn on and off genes.
- 2:18Episode 15 is about what if your genetic testing, your 23andMe or whatever kind
- 2:24of testing you get, what if that reveals that you have a risk for Hashimoto's?
- 2:27And I talk about things that you can do in that case.
- 2:30But stress impacts your overall health.
- 2:34Stress itself is not bad.
- 2:36What's bad is the chronic stress and staying in that fight and flight and freeze state.
- 2:43We want to shift into rest and digest as much as we can, because that is where we thrive.
- 2:50That is where we are most healthy when we are in the rest and digest,
- 2:54that parasympathetic nervous system.
- 2:56We want to be there. And going away for a couple days, it gets me in that parasympathetic nervous system.
- 3:05I absolutely love it.
- 3:07I want you to be able to experience an introvert retreat if you want to.
- 3:11So let me tell you how I made it happen.
- 3:14I have four boys and we have been homeschooling from the beginning.
- 3:18My oldest is a senior this year, so that means I've been homeschooling for 13
- 3:23years, which seems just crazy to say.
- 3:27And when I had multiple kids all starting homeschool, I found myself telling
- 3:33my husband I just needed to go away for two days so I could plan things.
- 3:38I could not think for long enough to get everything planned, to get their goals done.
- 3:43Every year I would make their, I look at their strengths. And of course,
- 3:49your biggest strength is often your biggest weakness.
- 3:51So I look at their strengths and their weaknesses in multiple different areas.
- 3:55How are we going to to work on that? What do they need to work on for academics?
- 3:59What curriculum are we using? How are we setting it up? What is the schedule going to be?
- 4:04I try to get everything done in the summer so that in the school year,
- 4:09it's literally just open the curriculum and go.
- 4:12I do not want to plan every week. I just want to open up the book and do the next thing.
- 4:17There are so many ways to do homeschool and the way I do it might not be the
- 4:22way that you do it. The way that you do it, if you homeschool.
- 4:24It might not be the way your friend does it. There's no right and wrong way.
- 4:28But I found myself wanting just a couple days away so that I could think for
- 4:33an extended length of time.
- 4:35And I was not getting that, you know, when I had four tiny little boys running around.
- 4:40So my husband was like, why don't you go up to the cabin for a couple days?
- 4:46My family is very fortunate to have a cabin in the family.
- 4:50It is not mine. It is my uncle's. My dad actually built it for my grandma.
- 4:55And then, yeah, it has stayed in the family.
- 4:58So I asked my uncle if I could go up to the cabin and it was incredible.
- 5:04I mean, sitting on the lake with a cup of tea and just thinking,
- 5:09just sitting in silence, just being, oh my goodness. Can you imagine.
- 5:15No sounds except for nature. At the time, the electricity was not working in the cabin.
- 5:21It was, it is solar powered and there were some problems.
- 5:24So I didn't even have the electric, electricity noise that, you know,
- 5:29the low hum of a fridge or the buzz of a fan had no noise except for nature.
- 5:36And it was the best. In the afternoons or evenings, I'd go for a walk and in a hike in the woods.
- 5:43I would sit on the porch in a rocking chair with my homeschool books and read and plan.
- 5:50Oh my goodness, it was so just such a gift to be able to just be.
- 5:58As the years went on, it became an annual tradition that I would go on this introvert retreat.
- 6:03I started inviting my sister who is also very much an introvert.
- 6:07And I had the condition that if you come with me,
- 6:10we are not expected to talk because the
- 6:13point is to be alone to just be and
- 6:17just to think and get stuff done and she totally understood that she was on
- 6:21board so if you're going to do a retreat like this find somebody who shares
- 6:25the same philosophy of what you're going to do some of my other friends are
- 6:29like I would love to do that except not the introvert part I want to be able
- 6:34to talk with my friends, but to go away,
- 6:36to be away from all distractions, to even have the electricity off,
- 6:42just did not even have that option.
- 6:44It is such an incredible experience.
- 6:47So for me, I took my sister with me because honestly, for me, it's a lot nicer.
- 6:53I feel safer and it's just more fun to hike through state parks and national
- 6:58parks with a friend instead of alone.
- 7:02If you're are going to go on a retreat like this, I highly recommend time in nature.
- 7:07And one of the reasons why is because time in nature helps with your stress level.
- 7:13Time in nature, especially pine trees, can help different things in your body circulate.
- 7:20I mean, you've heard of aromatherapy, right?
- 7:23The essential oils and how the aromas go to a specific part of your brain and
- 7:28they help different things.
- 7:29There are some scents that help with anxiety.
- 7:33There are some that help with physical things like nausea. There are some that
- 7:38help with your immune system.
- 7:40There are, there are so many different essential oils and aromas that are useful for different things.
- 7:47And we know that being out in nature in the trees boosts your immune system.
- 7:53And there's something about cedar trees or pine trees specifically that increases
- 7:59how your body can fight, I believe it's respiratory illnesses.
- 8:03It's so fascinating what we can learn and what we can experience in nature.
- 8:09So get out in nature. If you're going to do a retreat like this,
- 8:13whether you do an introvert retreat or with some friends, time in nature is important.
- 8:19I would also recommend just from my own personal experience,
- 8:23turning off the electricity.
- 8:24That might not be possible where you go. If you're going to go to a hotel,
- 8:27then obviously you cannot turn off the electricity.
- 8:30But there's something about being on the same rhythm as the sun.
- 8:37I remember the first year that I went and didn't have electricity.
- 8:41I felt like it was so late. You know, I was reading by candlelight.
- 8:45The sun had been down for it felt like
- 8:48forever I was getting really tired and I
- 8:51happened to look at something I don't know
- 8:53if I had a watch or something and I looked and it was only like 8 30 I was like
- 8:57wait what how can it be only 8 30 I feel like it is 11 o'clock at night but
- 9:03when your body is following the sun we get different sleep and sleep is another
- 9:09huge thing for your immune system.
- 9:12If you have an autoimmune problem, then you need to prioritize good sleep.
- 9:18How you prioritize it is up to you. Some people are going to focus on quality first.
- 9:22Some people are going to focus on quantity first. Some people are going to focus on both.
- 9:27But when we are sleeping, that is when your body is healing.
- 9:32It's when it's restoring.
- 9:33It's when things are growing. It's when your brain runs a dishwasher cycle and
- 9:38cleans out all of the broken cells from the day, all of the proteins that are
- 9:43not needed, it literally...
- 9:45Runs this dishwasher cycle. It's called the glymphatic system that's in your brain.
- 9:52It's like the lymphatic system of your body, but it's in your brain and it cleans
- 9:55things out while you are sleeping. It does not work during the day.
- 10:00And when you are living without electricity, I would only do it for a short time.
- 10:05I could not do it every day, but it is so relaxing and just a total break from what's normal.
- 10:12I think that is what I love the most about this retreat. It is such a break from what is normal.
- 10:19I go without my kids. I go without my husband. I wouldn't mind having my husband there.
- 10:24He is not an introvert. We would not be sitting around reading books.
- 10:28He would want to be on the go, which is awesome when I'm on vacation with him,
- 10:33when I'm on a trip with him.
- 10:35If I am on my introvert retreat, I have things to do. And those things involve sitting.
- 10:40This last year, I read so many books.
- 10:44I devoured some nonfiction books, some fiction books. I was rotating throughout
- 10:49the day so that I wouldn't get bored.
- 10:50But even then, I read so much that I uttered a phrase that I don't think I've
- 10:55ever uttered before in my life.
- 10:57I told my sister, I am bored of reading which
- 11:00is just crazy I was not bored like
- 11:04with what I was reading I was just like
- 11:07I had just sat and my eyeballs were done
- 11:10but you don't have to read if you don't want to read my sister takes art supplies
- 11:14or one year she couple years she brought her camera and she would go out in
- 11:19the woods and do photography she would I think this year she might have had
- 11:23watercolors and oils or pastels. I'm really not sure.
- 11:27I didn't pay attention because I was doing my own thing and she was doing her own thing.
- 11:31We come together for meals, not doing them together, but making our own thing
- 11:37and then eating together.
- 11:38That's just how we've worked it out. If you're going to go with somebody,
- 11:41again, get on the same page of expectations.
- 11:45We were very, I was very clear with her before she came the first time.
- 11:49And I said, this is what I eat. This is what I do.
- 11:51This, do you want to come? So it has worked out great.
- 11:55And another thing that you have to have in place before you do a retreat like
- 11:59this is a plan for the kids.
- 12:01If you have a family, you have to make sure that they are taken care of.
- 12:05And I do not take it for granted at all that my husband is so supportive in this.
- 12:10I remember during COVID, he said, are you going to go on your introvert retreat?
- 12:14And I didn't really expect to because everything had been locked down.
- 12:20I didn't think I could get away. And he's like, no, you need to do it. You, this fuels you.
- 12:25So I would not be able to do this without my husband.
- 12:29But you know what? People go on trips all the time and they figure out how to
- 12:33have child care. You know, people go on business trips or whatever.
- 12:37So maybe there's a way, there's somebody who can watch your kids or take care.
- 12:41Maybe you can swap with another friend.
- 12:43Hey, I'm going to go away for two days, just, you know, middle of the week or over the weekend.
- 12:47And then your friend is going to do it. And then you swap kids kids, or childcare.
- 12:51Whatever it is for you, this is such a time that refuels me and it helps my
- 12:59nervous system. It really does.
- 13:02I highly recommend it if you can make it work at all for you to get away,
- 13:08get out in nature, reset, breathe, take long, deep, slow breaths.
- 13:16Just be. Every morning, I would
- 13:19just sit on the on the step
- 13:22with my breakfast or with a cup of tea just
- 13:25be we are designed for
- 13:29rest we are designed to work but everything is
- 13:32balanced in our bodies and our minds everything is in balance and so when you
- 13:37work hard you have to rest hard or play hard and for a lot of people those are
- 13:43the same things so what fuels you how can you reset that's really the biggest
- 13:49part of an introvert retreat is resetting.
- 13:51I hope you can make that work for you.
- 13:54And if you're curious about what I read on my introvert retreat, I am on Storygraph.
- 14:00I gave up Goodreads a couple years ago in favor of Storygraph.
- 14:04I just love the graphs, being able to put in how much I read each day,
- 14:10and then seeing how many books I read and seeing all of the charts It tells
- 14:15me nonfiction versus fiction.
- 14:17It tells me the different types, the different genres that I read, the authors, the pace.
- 14:22There are so many different ways that I can look at my data and story graph,
- 14:26and it just makes me so happy.
- 14:28So if you want to see what I read, there's a lot of nonfiction and then a lot of fiction.
- 14:33I was reading for my fiction, some fairy tale retellings, because I already know the fairy tale.
- 14:39I already know that everybody's going to get a happily ever Ever After,
- 14:41as long as you're reading like a regular fairy tale.
- 14:45If you're reading classic Grimm Brothers, you might not get a happy ending.
- 14:49I didn't read any of those. I read the Happily Ever Afters. And it's so fun
- 14:53to just sit and just lose yourself in a story.
- 14:56For the nonfiction books that I read, I can highly recommend the book Tiny Habits.
- 15:02Now I have read Atomic Habits multiple times.
- 15:06And I really liked that book. So I wasn't sure that I would need to read Tiny
- 15:10Habits. I was like, this is like the same thing, right?
- 15:13Somebody who is actually a habit coach, she told me that Tiny Habits is better
- 15:19than Atomic Habits. So I thought I'd take her at her word and read it. And I.
- 15:23Fully agree. I felt like Tiny Habits is like a step or two above Atomic Habits
- 15:32in how much it helped me and how it will help me help others.
- 15:35I have put together a program. It is text-based right now, and it is in its beta version.
- 15:42I am just running it with a group of, I think it's about 60 people.
- 15:47And when it is ready, I will launch it for my Hashimoto's community,
- 15:52because it is, I've already heard from people that it is life changing,
- 15:57these tiny habits, how I'm encouraging them just via text on their phone a couple
- 16:02times a week, I am helping them change their life.
- 16:05So go ahead and read tiny habits. If you want to read one book this year that
- 16:10could change your life, I recommend that one.
- 16:12I also finished a book that I have read before by Dr. Libby Weaver.
- 16:17And you might find it interesting as somebody with Hashimoto's,
- 16:21it is called Rushing Woman Syndrome.
- 16:23And it is talking about how women just keep going, going, going.
- 16:27They're always on, feeling like they're on and feeling like they need to be
- 16:31doing stuff and always feeling like they're behind. They're always rushing.
- 16:36I love how Dr. Libby looks at the person as a whole. She is a biochemist,
- 16:43and she's a holistic health specialist.
- 16:45I find her stuff so helpful. She looks at every process of your body just with
- 16:52a different lens because of her background in biochemistry.
- 16:56In her book, she talks about different hormones and the impact of rushing.
- 17:03And over and over, she's telling us to slow down and breathe.
- 17:08And it's probably because of Dr.
- 17:10Libby Weaver that I remind you so often to take a deep breath from your diaphragm.
- 17:15That belly breathing, diaphragmatic breathing is so important because when you
- 17:21breathe with your diaphragm, it massages a huge nerve.
- 17:25It's called the vagus nerve in that goes right through your diaphragm.
- 17:29And when that nerve is massaged, it tells your body to,
- 17:32to relax. It tells your body that you are safe. It helps you get into your rest
- 17:38and digest that parasympathetic nervous system instead of your fight and flight,
- 17:43which is the sympathetic nervous system.
- 17:44And Dr. Libby goes through that in, I believe, all of her books.
- 17:48But the one that I just finished is Rushing Women's Syndrome.
- 17:53It is so good. So if you want to see my books, You can follow me over on Storygraph.
- 17:58I believe I am at estery.rn over there, or just send me a message on Instagram
- 18:04and, or just watch my stories on Instagram.
- 18:07I put my month end, the wrap up every single month. And when I hit a fun number
- 18:12on my reading streak, I put that in there too.
- 18:14I would love to connect with you and find out what fuels you.
- 18:17Like I'm talking about the introvert retreat, but what would fuel you?
- 18:21What is going to help you reset?
- 18:22How you lower your stress, help you to
- 18:25come back to regular life feeling so
- 18:29much better so much more you
- 18:32refueled re-energized and ready
- 18:35to go send me a message over on instagram or even better come to our community
- 18:39which is the health with hashimoto's app it is on the apple app store it is
- 18:45still not in the google play store but it's available on the browser so you
- 18:49can still access it from non-iphones because
- 18:52I know there's a lot of you who don't use an iPhone,
- 18:55and you still want access to that free community as well as the courses.
- 19:00I've got the first one, which is Hashimoto's Decoded 10 Questions for Your Doctor.
- 19:05And then step two is Hashimoto's Decoded the Causes.
- 19:09And then your final step is the Holistic Hashimoto's Course.
- 19:13I hope to see you in the community and in the courses. And I will see you back
- 19:17here next week on the Health with Hashimoto's podcast.
- 19:20This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only.
- 19:24Please discuss any concerns and plans with your trusted healthcare professional.
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- 19:31I'll see you next week on the Health with Hashimoto's.
- 19:35Music.