Latest / NFL explained. / Matt Ryan on Cam Sacking Him 23 Times, Their Saints-Falcons Rivalry Battles, Which AFC & NFC Teams Are Legit Contenders

Transcript

Matt Ryan on Cam Sacking Him 23 Times, Their Saints-Falcons Rivalry Battles, Which AFC & NFC Teams Are Legit Contenders · NFL explained.

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Welcome on in.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: This is Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. I'm super excited.
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: The Saints are coming off of a bye week. We've
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: got things to do here we are. We're laser and
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: locked in on the team coming up on Sunday. And
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: this Sunday is my favorite week because it's the week
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: I get to hate the most. It's Atlanta versus the Saints.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: It's the failed Cons and the Saints.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: This is the this is the rivalry week.
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: This is the week that you don't know what you're
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: getting into when you get down to the South. But oh,
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: it takes all of but one game to realize that
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: there's a animosity there. You know, the great back and
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: forth from Michael Turners to the Julio Jones to you know,
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: the man who was willing and dealing for so many years,
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: who I get to present to you as my guest
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: this week, who understands rivalry. This is Matt Ryan. Then
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: we're talking about an all pro, a four time pro bowler,
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: a guy who was a league MVP and now he
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: says nfl an Liss for CBS Sports where I sort
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: of got to sit in his seat on my bye week.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: You know why he was out there in Denver, you know,
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: calling the game whatever that is. I was out there
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: in New York sitting in his seat. I said it
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: was a little comfy. I said, well, I can't let
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: it get too coffee. I got to get back to work.
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: So we had practice yesterday. Here we are, Matt. I
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: appreciate you tapping in. It's time for this week's Drive
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: for Success Conversation presented by Toyota. Let's go places. It's
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: such a great weekend for me and you to talk.
• 1:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is you and I were talking about it
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: a little bit over the weekend. I think it's one
• 1:32
  Speaker 3: of the most underrated rivalries in the NFL, and you
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: kind of alluded to it at the beginning. I didn't
• 1:39
  Speaker 3: know anything about it until I got to Atlanta, you know,
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: and we played New Orleans as a rookie, and Mike Smith,
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: our head coach, did like, hey, this week is different
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: and had like former Falcons come on and talk about
• 1:53
  Speaker 3: the rivalry and all of this. And I was sitting
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: there as a rookie being like, oh, I had no idea,
• 1:57
  Speaker 3: and then got to play in that game, and it
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: does feel different. Post cities are so into it, but
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: it is. I think it's one of the most underrated
• 2:06
  Speaker 3: rivalries in the league. And you and I were part
• 2:09
  Speaker 3: of it for a long time. You're still going, You're
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: still doing your thing, which is incredible, and I'm glad
• 2:13
  Speaker 3: you got out of my seat so you can go
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: back and get some more sacks. Hopefully not that many
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: this weekend, but get some more sacks and keep getting
• 2:20
  Speaker 3: after it.
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: As long as I keep adding to this total. I'm
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: just trying to close the distance. They say I'm top twenty.
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what is it. I gotta get to this
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: top fifteen whatever. That looks like. We'll take a one
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: week at a time. This week, you know it's different,
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: Is there is there a rivalry between like Boston College?
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: Who's the Boston College rivalry? Like now we got Stanford.
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: Like I've always had one laser focus. I hate this
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: team you have?
• 2:44
  Speaker 3: Who so ours? Ours at BC was Syracuse in the
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: Old Big East. You got to remember, like when I
• 2:51
  Speaker 3: went to Boston College. We were in the Old Big
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: East when I started there, and so it was like
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: Virginia Tech, Miami, pitt West, Virginia, Syracuse, Boston College Wreckers.
• 3:00
  Speaker 3: That was sort of the setup in football and so
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: the big one for us up there was Syracuse and
• 3:06
  Speaker 3: then we left and went to the a c C.
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: And it took a little bit of time for Syracuse
• 3:10
  Speaker 3: to then come back into the a c C. So
• 3:12
  Speaker 3: that's that's sort of the rivalry that's big. But you know,
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: it's it's not comparable. It's it's not it's not the
• 3:19
  Speaker 3: big game. It's not cal Stanford, you know, it's it's
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: not that.
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a brother in law that went to
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: b C.
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: You know, casim At a Bali defensive end, was a
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: teammate of mine for a couple of years. Married player, Yeah,
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: good player, edge you know. Now he's in Germany killing
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: it being an analyst. Well, you know he's he's the
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: U over there.
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: That's one of the things BC historically did pretty well
• 3:39
  Speaker 3: was defensive line and o line. Uh you know, when
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: you look across the league, when you do those game plans,
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: you do see you tend to see a lot of
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: guys from Boston College playing on the defensive line, playing
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: on the offensive line. You know, maybe not to skill positions,
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: but that's all right. We were okay there, you know,
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: solid but uh certainly had a bunch of O and
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: D Linemen.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: Not man. You know, the church work is where the
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: dreams work. And then of course you come up as
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: the premier at Boston College quarterback for Atlanta falcause for
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: so long. In fact, let me preface this, how is
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: it being transitioning from football to CBS analysts, you know,
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: color commentary? What does that switch up?
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: Homework change up a little bit, oh for sure, for sure,
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: defenses and knowing the entire team.
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's interesting. So my first year out I
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: called games for CBS, and you know, I watched a
• 4:34
  Speaker 3: ton of film as a player, but it was always
• 4:35
  Speaker 3: just one defense. And then you start watching film to
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: get prepared to call a game, and you're like, oh
• 4:41
  Speaker 3: my god, I have so much work to do. I've
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: got two defenses. I've got to watch. I've got to
• 4:45
  Speaker 3: watch these offenses because I don't know what's going on.
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know what they're doing, and trying to figure
• 4:49
  Speaker 3: out what they're doing. And then, for the first time
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: in my life, I watched special teams because I never
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: watched a snap of special teams.
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: What you know in anywhere, Yeah, I would.
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: I would sit in one special teams meeting a year
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: as a quarterback, which was like the first of training
• 5:06
  Speaker 3: camp and they would you know, go through like the
• 5:08
  Speaker 3: whole team sitting in there. And that was the last
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: time I was in a teams meeting the entire season,
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: so like I had to figure out what was going
• 5:14
  Speaker 3: on on special teams. So that first year calling games
• 5:18
  Speaker 3: was was it was a lot of film, a ton
• 5:21
  Speaker 3: of film of getting prep for those teams that we
• 5:24
  Speaker 3: were calling. But then I switched into the studio last
• 5:28
  Speaker 3: year and it was my first year doing the pregame
• 5:31
  Speaker 3: show on the NFL Today on CBS, and then it
• 5:34
  Speaker 3: was a massive switch because you know, as a player,
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: for so long, you're just focused on your own team
• 5:39
  Speaker 3: and the matchup that you have that week, and you
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: might see like highlights from around the league and just
• 5:44
  Speaker 3: pick up on a few things here and there, but
• 5:45
  Speaker 3: you're not you don't know, like the storylines of all
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: all the way locked in. Yeah you're not, You're not.
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: You're just you just kind of see it from a
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: surface level. And now you know, doing the studio show,
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: it's like I'm consuming the league like a fan. Now
• 5:59
  Speaker 3: you know where it's like I know the storylines, I
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: know what's going on with the coaches. I know what's
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: going on, you know with the locker room conflicts, and
• 6:05
  Speaker 3: we're talking about them and trying to give our perspective.
• 6:08
  Speaker 3: So it's been a change, but it's been a ton
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: of fun. You've been a part of it, right, You've
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: been on the show with us, on the NFL Today,
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: you run the NFL Today, plus this past weekend. The
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: people at CBS are awesome. The people you get to
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: work with are incredible. So it's been fun. I've enjoyed
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: that part of it.
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: Wed Asa, and you went to a straight out of retirement,
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: you know, like from working to working.
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: What was that decision?
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, you go, you leave Atlanta, you go
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: over to Indianapolis and you're like, you know what TV?
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. Honestly, I didn't know what I was
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: going to do because my year in Indye didn't go
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: as planned, neither for the team or myself, and so
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: it ended a lot faster than I thought. You know,
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: in your head, you have this idea like maybe I'll
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: go there, maybe I'll play two or three years. Ends
• 6:52
  Speaker 3: up only being one season there, and so the end
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: happened faster, and for whatever reason, I wasn't ready to
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: just doing anything and had the opportunity to to keep
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: busy that first year, didn't fully retire, kind of kept
• 7:08
  Speaker 3: my options open in case something, you know, were to
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: come up, but nothing did, and I really enjoyed what
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: I was doing, So for me, it felt like the
• 7:15
  Speaker 3: right thing to do to just keep moving and and
• 7:19
  Speaker 3: and keep busy at that time, because I think, I
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: think you know it. And listen, man, you're busier. You're
• 7:25
  Speaker 3: you're very busy, h even you know as a player,
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: you're active, and I think it's great. Uh, and you're
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: doing things in different spaces, which I think is really cool.
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: But I operate better when I'm busy, and and when
• 7:37
  Speaker 3: I've got too much free time, I'm not at my best.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: Right absolutely, I mean we just thought about, you know,
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: going from how the analysts, being analyst change your ways
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: because you're studying film, you're breaking down everybody, not just
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: not just you know the other eleven, no, all phases
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: of the game. Does that keep you up on like that?
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: The new rule changes as well? Like you know, how
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: the format for the kickoff has changed. How you know.
• 8:00
  Speaker 3: The rough of the passers take only a little bit
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: of time to get roughing the passer with you and
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: was going to get your comment on it. I sat
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: with JJ last year, Jj Watt. He was all over
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: it every week, coach cowor same way.
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: But think about you entered the league and you were
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: getting smacked, smoked, blindside smoked. They looked back like, ha,
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: Now it's like, do you mind if I tackle you?
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: Can I put you down?
• 8:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's even crazy. I think, you know, it's
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: one thing when you're a player, when you're a quarterback,
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: I'd be lying if I told you I didn't like
• 8:31
  Speaker 3: the rule changes. I was sitting there and I was like,
• 8:33
  Speaker 3: you know what, that's probably a good thing. But I
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: watch it now with the with a different perspective, and
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: you see how difficult it is, you know, to avoid
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: some of the calls, and and how the refs really
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: are conditioned to throw it right and to protect a quarterback.
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: And I do think, you know, my perspective has changed
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: on it, and that's probably because I'm not sitting in
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: the pocket anymore having to take those hits. But it
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: has changed. And I do feel for for you guys,
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: because I think those rule changes have made it really difficult,
• 9:04
  Speaker 3: uh for you guys. There's like this small little target
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: that you have to hit and you can only hit
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: it for so long. But you can only hit it
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: so hard you can't take it to the ground, and
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: and uh, it's it's really really difficult.
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: No, no doubt. I mean, just being the defender seems
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: like there's always more and more impeding infractions on us
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: than than the offensive side.
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: That's true. Points man, one points.
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: Just just tell us straight up, Hey, guys, you guys
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: are here to just just to sort of be around.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: We don't want you to take over. Is there any
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: like friendly rivalry competition between you? Of course, there's a
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: myriad of quarterbacks in this league that have joined the
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: analyst side, whether it be Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Troy.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: Troy been been doing it probably longer than I've been alive,
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: you know, Tony Romo, like is there is there like
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: a hey, I want to be the.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: Best still and it's still in effect.
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: I think I think all of us have a certain
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: level of pride, you know, when you're asked to go perform,
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: whether that is going out there and performing on Sundays
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: and throwing the football around and trying to be as
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: good as you can be and be the best, and
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: then I think the same goes true for when you
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: go on air. You want to you want to be
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: able to, you know, go on there and do a
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: great job and and you know, provide insight and entertain
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: people that are listening and are tuning in. So yeah,
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: I think there is. I don't think it's as personal,
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: you know, as playing. They can get personal playing right
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: where you're going against somebody for a long time. Like
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: I see Drew going in now and he's doing games
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: for Fox, which I think he'll do great, But I
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: would have never said that as a player, right, like,
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: oh man, I'm so happy for Drew. He's doing great
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: and I love Drew. He's you know, just a good
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: person and obviously with such a great quarterback. But the
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: level of competitiveness I think is not quite the same
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: in the broadcast space as it is on the field.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, you know, level of pettiness maybe.
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: Well, I think the difference gam I think the difference is,
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: at least from my perspective, you root for everybody to
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: do well when you're done. You know, you want everybody
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: to be on air, be doing a great job, and
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: you want to do that yourself. Of course, but I'm
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: not always sure that's the case when you're playing, you know,
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: It's it's never the case.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: I had about five picks from from Drew.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they happened often.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: Look it's you know, now we're getting towards where I
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: want to talk to anyways, you know, alluding to Sunday.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: You know, I dropped you the portrait, the gift, you know,
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: beautiful while you were in dinner.
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: It was me and you together forever. I was surprised, dude,
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: I was surprised. Do you know who painted it? The
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: great job.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: I have no idea, Like you know, CBS was like,
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: it was like, hey, man, you went on this.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm always in on harassing a quarterback,
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: even a great guy like you.
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know. It's funny they asked you if you
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: were in on it. They didn't ask me if I
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: was in on it. Lets you know, like, hey, Cams,
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: he heads up. I had no idea that was coming.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: I opened it up.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, really, really, I was gonna be received. I'm
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: gonna be Julio Jones. I'll go catch it.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: I'll take you back the words did a good job, though, Man,
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: you do it, you know, I appreciate CBS for letting
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: partake in that. And then you know, of course I
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: figured you didn't take the portrait home. You probably left
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: it there.
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: No, they're sending it to me, sending it home to it.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: They're sending it home to me. I don't know what
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: I'm in. I got a fireplace at the house. I
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: might throw it in. I'm not exactly sure what I'm
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: gonna do with it, but it's coming home. It's coming
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: back to the crib.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: The boys at a paintball gun. You know, a right equalizer,
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: that's right, say that.
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: That's exactly where. It's a dark board. Your face is
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: the dart board. Now, I figure.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: I figured that's where we were going, which is perfectly
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: because you know, we talked about rivalries early on that
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: talked about the studio. Back to this rivalry, it's it's
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Atlanta hate week.
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: For you, as a quarterback, do you feel do you
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: feel the spur between the two cities, the two teams?
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: I felt it for sure as a player, you know,
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: and for most of my career it was going against
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: it was going against you on the defensive side of
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: the ball for so long. But also drew and knowing
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: you know, it was going to be tough going against them,
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: and Sean Payton was there for such a long time
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: during that portion of it too, so you know, we
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: had some honestly, we had some great battles.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: You know, we talk about both those football teams being
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: really good from the time you entered the league until
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: you know, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. For us, you know,
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: we had a nice little run there. It was. It
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: was a competitive it was a good football team, and
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: the same being said for you guys, right, like different
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: stretches where you're as good as there is in a league.
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: So I think that added to it. I think, you know,
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: throughout the twenty tens that was that was a battle
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: that went back and forth, and you could you could
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: then feel it with the cities too, right, you would
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: see kind of the extra that would come with it.
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: And I always thought that was fun to be a part.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: I want to know, like in New Orleans, there's going
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: to be like a second line that happens after we
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: beat y'all, you know, like it's it's leading up to
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: the week, I'm heading up to the condo and I
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: got to stopped three or four times. I just got
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: done with a school visit this morning, and the kids
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: were like, hey, we gotta beat the Birds. They already know.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to fourth and fifth grade kids and they're
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: already like, yeah, hey, as long as we will beat
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: the Birds. This is like, I know we're in a
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: bad season right now, but we can turn around because
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: it starts with the Birds.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, these eleven twelve year olds are locked in,
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: whether it be med and whether it be whatever it is.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, I'm going to the game this week
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: because I know we're gonna.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: Get a win. Yeah. You feel it here in Atlanta too.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: You do feel it here in Atlanta where it's like
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: we're going against the Aints boys, and you got to
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: take the Aints down right. That's never in there. But
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: I remember. I remember, I'm not sure if you were
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: on the team yet or not, but I remember like
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: it was kind of at the beginning of Twitter, beginning
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: of Instagram. Whatever. You guys are coming in here late
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: in the season, and I remember people at the airport
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: started like egging the plane or something like that. You guys,
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: I think that.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Was my my rookie or secie in the league, like
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: right right we landed.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: They like pelted buses.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: We were getting on with dozens of eggs, and I
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: was like, well, that's just dumb.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: We're already on the bus and this is your bus.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: We're in Georgia. Yea, Like this didn't make the most sense.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: You're not affecting us technically, like this this is a
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Georgia company.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, you're hurting your
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: own Maybe we should have reconsidered what we did, but.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: It means a lot. No, they went out their way
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: to meet us at the airport for this. I said, okay,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: It's so much so even my family would feel it,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: you know, like we got to do it this week. Yes,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: you know. I get on the phone with my dad
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: or whatever during the week and he's like, hey, man,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: you got to take care of business this week. And
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: you're like, Dad, I got to take care of business
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: every week. He's like, no, no, this week, you got
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: to take care of business this week. All right.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: He feels it absolutely, man.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I mean two of your top six performances of all
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: times came against us. One in twenty fourteen, when I
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: think our defense credit was rob Ryan at the time
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: twenty twelve Spagnulo both times not like you know, historically speaking,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: and you look back at it on defense for us,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: what wasn't great?
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Someonuld say historically the worst and you took.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Advantage twenty fourteen through for four hundred and forty eight
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: yards three tundies one in overtime, like we were still
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: fighting back, but it's fine.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Oh no, it was back and forth.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: We needed every one of them right here, just going
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: deep over the top to Roddy White. Is that Roddy
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: White Roadty White? Oh my god, look this is listen.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: We got the big fellow involved right here. Mike Johnson
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: went the touchdown pass and.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Like, how do you like, how do you not defend
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: office the lineman and my ten year old can defendo
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: offics of lie. Now, a fifty fifty ball from Julio
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Jones lethal to any and everybody.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: The fifty to fifty is really ninety nine, We would.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Say it's a hundred hundred's That's how we would talk
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: about those those moonballs to.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Julio, that's not fair, Like just six' four red a
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: four to three forty inch vert just od.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: DOES i he was he was different, Man julio. Was
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: he was, different and UH i learned, something you, know
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: playing in the, league that there's good players and then
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: there's the elite of the. Elite and he was, that you,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: know just the the the, size the, speed the, strength
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: his ability to go up and make plays on, ball
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: as physically gifted and as tough a competitor as anybody
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: you've ever played, with no. Doubt All, right when's your
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: highlight reel coming? UP i know you got. ONE i
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: know you got.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: One glad you, asked because the pels here your four
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: hun the first time you ever showed some of my
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: highlights though when we've been.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Together SO i appreciate. It i'm.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Trying i'm trying to be unbiasedly no bias.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Here, YES i love.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: It of course you would talk about one or the other,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: things you, Know thanksgiving. Games you know you're talking about
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: giving game twenty, Nineteen week.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Thirteen you know that was like a gift that just
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: went down for.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: You you just you gave me the layup four, sex you,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: know just our two in the fourth, quarter three in
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter or something.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Like that hit. OFF i had TO i got to
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: change my. CADENCE i wasn't doing a, good good enough
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: job with the cadence you got off on it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: There, YEAH i, mean especially when you know the time
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: clock goes down below five, seconds like there's no switching
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: it up at that. Point i'm getting off fasted office
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: the line because i know already the next sound has
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: to be a.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Go, yes you were. RIGHT i was. Wrong that was
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: the problem with playing. Offense that shot clock keep going,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: down the play clock keeps going. Down at some point
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: you have to snap the, ball no. Doubt and it
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: looked like in a couple of those, CLIPS i didn't
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: want to snap the. BALL i didn't want. TO i
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: didn't want. TO i knew what was, coming like this.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Poor, tackle like you, know, like oh, man it's just you,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: know got this got this big fellow that's about to
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: get worked.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Over But i've always SAID i rushed the.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i don't rust office Alignment like you can name
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: your entire office of, line And i'm sure there's some
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: good guys out, there but what makes AN o line
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: good to me is the. Quarterback like you, know because
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: at some point twenty, fifteen you were getting the ball
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: off under two point four. Seconds were was that headed
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: towards THE mvp year or whatever like whatever was you were.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Unstoppable seemed like it's like, YO i could beat the.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: TACKLE i could beat a guard and still not get.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: THERE i could win cleanly and not get.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: There it was.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Frustrating play, well.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: That was the WAY i had to, play. RIGHT i
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: didn't HAVE i didn't have the skill set to be
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: able to extend and kind of take off and pick
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: up chunks with my, legs and so the WAY i
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: was always going to be successful was understanding how to
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: get the ball out of my, hand put it in
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: playmaker's hands in, space and try and give them the
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: opportunity to do. It but, inevitably there always comes a
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: time where you need to take a shot downfield and
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: you need to push the ball down the field vertically,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: absolutely and that's where you. Ate that's where you, ate all.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Right sometimes you got to hold it on through it
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: for three, seconds and we knew that was going to
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: be a. Challenge but you get into those kind of
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: games AND i always Give i've said it to you
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: a million. TIMES i always thought the effort and the
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: energy and the motor that you played with was so
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: hard for us to go. Against, right because it was
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: you were going to play the majority of the snaps
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: pretty much the entire, game and you were going to
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: go you didn't take plays, off and that was always
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: one of the hardest things for us to go. Against
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: but when you look at a lot of those, clips,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: right we're, trailing we're, Down we've got to down the
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: field to try and get back, in and that's when
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: you would pin your ears, back man and get.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Out when you get to, lead you're, like all, right
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: now they have to make these.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Plays, yes third is seven and they're down by three or,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: seven preferably, ten you, know a possession and a, Half
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: like now you have to make a deep. Throw now
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you have to go get, it and you can't hide
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: behind boost play. Actions it's just, like oh gotta got.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Game and play actions don't work in those, situations.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Exactly like that's when it gets fun for a defensive
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: lineman till Then i'm just buying time making, tackles you,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: know playing the. Run, yeah feeling, No, NO i want
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: to BE i want to be up by two touchdowns
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: and just pinning it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Back that's exactly, right and that that was always our game,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: plans you, know coming into a week playing against you
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: was you, know we got to try and find a
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: way to play from in front and make and make
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: uh not make us one. Dimensional we can't just sit
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: there and be a drop back five and seven step
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: drop back passing. Team we've got to be able to
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: run the. Football we've got to be able to get
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: it out of our. Hands we gotta we gotta. Believe
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: we got to make them believe we're going to run the, football,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: uh and make them earn the right to to rush the.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Passer but, uh and that's.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: WHY i go so, well BECAUSE i believe in stopping the.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Run, First i'm, LIKE i tell my guys a little, time, like, hey,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: bro you know it feels good a, sack, SURE i,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: said but you know it feels better when it's second and.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: TWELVE i, said let's play this.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Run let's get A TfL first, down second, even second,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: down sallom, out third, down we can go get it
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: you third, down which you, know it sort of brings
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: up my favorite sack off me and you you, know
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: out of our twenty three, together it was someone in
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the fourth. Quarter. Yeah, absolutely that's What i'm. Saying like
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: there were times WHERE i kind of had one off,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you but you never now this one was. Perfect it
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: was the end of the. Game you had to hold.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: It oh, yeah gre push you out the, Way, sorry Big.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: PHILA i need. That And i'm Always i've always wanted
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: to share this moment with you, there you. KNOW i, Said,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: look there's been a lot of, sacks there's been a
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: lot of your. Touchdowns verse are not enough touchdowns and
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: games going up down whatever it. IS i, said but
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: we had a special. Moment i'll, say, hey let me
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: get that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Ball you did get. It you also you also tossed
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: me out of the. BAR i was kind of standing.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Up you were a hefty, guy you, know you try
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: to reach back and you one arm tossed me out
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: of the bar and took the. Ball that Was that
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: was a good one for your, highlight, RIGHT.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I mean for, you probably, like, hey that's on, me
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: AND i look at your office linemen like do.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Better you, know if he won't say, IT i will do.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: It that's all, me, man that's all. ME i will
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: never throw my guys under the. Bus you have to
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: say what you have to. Say but just know we
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: looked at. It there's been times whe're, like, man all,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: right this is our duck and you like take. Advantage,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: luckily you know it's it's just. Been it's been great that.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Way we'll be back in a. Minute in terms of favorite,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: teammates do you have any of all? Time IF i
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: say top, three because IF i give you, one you're
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: going to take two or. Three, yeah, yeah you know
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: how it, goes, Right it's impossible to pick. ONE i will.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Say i'll, say let me give you the two wide.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: RECEIVERS i Mean Roddy white And Leo, jones two of
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: my favorite teammates of all, time just not only given
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: that they could go out there and play and and
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: make plays and we're so, great but just awesome, competitors
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: awesome dudes in the locker. Room you would love them as. Teammates,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Uh Tony gonzalez another. One i'm gonna give you Four
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Tony gonzales in. There tony g cow. Guy you gotta love.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: That uh he he was. Incredible and Then i'll give
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: you one offensivelignment who's From. Louisiana he went to l S.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: U todd, McClure tom, McClure you, know was, yeah he.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Was he was awesome. Man just old. School we used
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: to call mud. Duck that was his uh that was
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: his nickname for us so mud. Duck he was one
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: of my favorite teammates of all.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: TIME i was waiting for office line to be thrown in,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: THERE i, said a quarterback who doesn't LOVE i loved.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: THAT i loved a lot of.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: THEM i Loved is he a? Center he was a? Center,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: yes there we, Go. Bob yeah you're you're under. There
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: you're touching cheeks For, yeah we were. Close we're, close.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Rightfully SO i just feel, like if if a quarterback
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: in the center and you're under, center you know him in.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Depth you Know i've seen. It AND i, said at this,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: POINT i know they have to Have thanksgiving. Together you
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: know somewhere in there that bond has got to be,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: deep deeper than real. WRAP i think you know what
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you've been able to do over your, Career, bro has
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: been nothing short of. AMAZING i, mean the way you
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: used to be able to get the ball, off like,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: said she used to be so.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Frustrating and even.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Though i'm, LIKE i circle the calendar every, time we've
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: made the falcons, up LIKE i, Know i'm getting at least.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: One you know it was it was the. Man there's
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: so many PLAYS i could have, had but you defeated
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: like it. Was it was the dropback As i'm, hitting
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: you sort of get the ball off or even If i'm, Winning,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: bro the way you dice and dice us, up like
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: with the quick, GAMES i just be. Confused i'm, Like,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: bro this is so frustrating knowing that you have the
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: ability to take over the, game and rightfully. SO i, mean,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: now you, KNOW i don't know how you break your your.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Career you, know you were able to play with so many,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: guys but you were The hall Of famer out your.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Group you and who would be the Obvious hall Of
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: fame choices right like for you to be, there you
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: elevated play with so many. Guys, well you're nice to say.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: IT i Think julio's an absolute first Ballot hall Of,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: famer one of the best to ever do. It AND
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: i appreciate you saying all those nice things about, me
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: BUT i said the, SAME i said the same for.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: You you, KNOW i think your level of consistency from
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: the time he came into the league until right now
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: is and it's one of the THINGS i think AS
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: i got older as a, PLAYER i admired more was
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: people who would come in and perform at a high
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: level and then sustain and then be able to do
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: it with great longevity because it's so hard in this
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: league to be able to do. It my respect for
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: guys like that goes through the. Roof and you, know
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: we got to compete against each other so. MUCH i,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: THINK i think you're going to be in, there. MAN
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: i think a gold jack is going to look good
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: with that yellow hair that you got right, now that
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: blonde hair, whatever whatever color it, is right, now.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Right. Now, yeah we'll cut off off the f. Season
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: i'll go back TO i need a. JOB i think
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: you should go it back in for when you go Into.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Cantons so it looks good with the, COAT i think
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: it'll all. Match maybe even die up the. Mustache it
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: would look. Good, dude that look.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Crazy BUT i do think it's one of the coolest
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: things to, have the kind of rivalry that The saints
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: And falcons have to play it against you so, much
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: and now have having gotten to know you after, playing
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: BECAUSE i didn't know you, really you, know other than you,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: know other than an interaction of being on the ground
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: and you you, know laughing or getting excited or. Whatever up,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: afterwards but getting to know you and getting to know
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: what you're all, about that part has been. Special and
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: there's so much respect for for you and for so
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: many of the guys THAT i competed against In New,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: orleans no.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: DOUBT i, mean do you ever go back and just
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: like look at the old.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Film, No, NO i don't know What i'm.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Saying, No i'm just, wondering like in the retired, phase
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: does that? Happen and like if, so win you, know like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: MAN i had some good, games like just like like
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: as it pick me.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: UP i don't do, coffee SO i assume.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Like one of these, Days i'm, like you, know older
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: in my in my forties or, whatever And i'm sitting around,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: like you know, what let's turn on these this highlight
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: reel like, Yeah.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I'll throw this out there my kids every once in a.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: While So i've got three young. Boys my twins are.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: SEVEN i got a two year old, son and my
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: twins are massive into football now and they don't really
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: remember me, playing you, know too young at that. Point
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: they vaguely remember, it but yeah they're too, young and
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: they'll ask about teammates and then and Then i'll be
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: like all, Right, yeah let's let's put on A Julio
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: jones like highlight reel three in this hey. Day yeah,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah and they're, Like, dad that was kind of, nice,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Man like that was a nice. Ball LIKE i was, like,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: yeah that was you, know all. RIGHT i was, okay you,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: know once in a WHILE i go back with them
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: and start watching a few.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Things all, Right so it's gonna be it's gonna because of. Them.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah luckily my kids are a little.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Older they've THEY'VE i got a ten year old and
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: he's like he like lives and dies with The. Saints
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: AND i got a nine year. Older she's just getting
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: like cardinal knowledge of what she's, Like oh you're pretty, good,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Dad oh, thanks, thanks you know that's.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Cool, yes it's. Done and on.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Them just in terms of like i'd like to SAY
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: qb play across you, know maybe across the. League, now
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: as an, analyst do you do you start to like,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: subterfuse you like to start directing exactly what you what
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you like about, quarterback what you think you like he
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: could improve. On are you a critique like you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: me IF i walk into a, Restaurant i'm judging from
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: from the MOMENT i step in service was.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Good food was.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Good When i'm watching the, game AND i try to
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: be an. Analyst WHEN i was doing it for THE USFL,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: cfl they'd be, like, oh did you see the deep
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: ball and the slam? RABBIT i was, like, yeah but
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: did you see this trench? Work did you see this
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: technique and the way he was able to? Swim like
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: how are you able to? See do you see everything
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: now or do you, specifically like look at quarterback.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: PLAY i think we all lean towards the positions we played,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: right like you're not Gonna you're not going to change
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: the way you see. Football, YEAH i think we have
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: so much of our life spent seeing it through our
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: own eyes and our own lens that that you lean that.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: WAY i do you, think you, know after having been,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Done I've i've focused a lot more on defensive players
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: and watching them d linemen for, sure, dbs you, know
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: and even even like offensive line play of trying to
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: learn and really look, at you, know how these guys
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: are doing, it why they're doing it so. Well AND
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: i Think i've gotten better in that. Area BUT i
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: do THINK i think we lean to to the things
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: that we, love right and for, me that is quarterback.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Play But i'm always, LIKE i always try and remember
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: how hard it is to be the guy out there
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: doing it. Right it looks a lot easier when you're
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: sitting on your couch or or sitting up in the press,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: box like looking, down it looks a lot easier than
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: it is than when you're actually out. There SO i,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: always you, know try and write down on my notes or,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: whatever just don't forget how hard it, was, man because
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: it's not as easy as it, looks no.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Doubt BUT i, mean have you seen have you noticed
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: like the evolution of the, quarterback you, know like for,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Me for, me WHEN i first got into that eleven
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: we Had Cam, NEWTON i was a, big, fastest strong
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yet Mike VICK i, was you, know smaller, Fast but
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: now it seems like everybody's most.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Sure, YEAH i, MEAN i THINK i think it's a
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: prerequisite now to play quarterback in THE. Nfl you have
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: to be able to extend. Plays you have to be
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: able to, move you have to be able to run
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: with the, football you, know the like you, said there
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: were like four or five different guys that could really
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: move when you first came into the, league and now
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: it's like there's four or five guys that are pocket,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: passers and so that that that shifts has definitely had, it,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: uh has has come in THE, nfl and it's it's,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: uh it's interesting to see it's it's it's definitely. Different
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: BUT i don't think that's going away because you see
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: the pressure it puts on the run. Game on you,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: know third and five or less or fourth and four or.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Less you have the ability to run as a. Quarterback
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: it's game. Changing mm, Hmm.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I'll, say AND i, mean which leads us back to Uh.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Atlanta, OH i actually said that out.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Right, okay.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Perfect how do you feel about their current quarterback? Situation
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: michael Pigs junior. OUT i think officially as of. Yesterday,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: YEAH i went ON I r you, know.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: It's tough and now he's actively.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Out, yeah it's. Tough you, know you have a young
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: quarterback that you're trying to develop and get going and he's,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: still you, know only ten or eleven games into, it
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: even though he's in his second, year and now that
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: he's going to miss more. TIME i think that's that's
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: difficult on the organization for, sure you, know but it's
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: a Different they're bring In, kirk AND i, said you
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: know that you're not worried as much about the movement
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: and being able to, extend and not That Michael pennix
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: is doing a ton of, it BUT i think he's
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: more athletic than people give him credit. For he can
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: get out and move a little. Bit so you, Know
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: i'm optimistic About michael in the. FUTURE i really. Am
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: but you, know like you were talking about, before it
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: hadn't been the best season for both of the, teams you,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: know coming into, It but there's still gonna be a
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: little extra juice to.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: It, well there's gonna be all types of this is
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: gonna be all types of sauce added to, this added
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: this is. GAME i think that you, know it's sort of,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: like you, know when you were over At, indianapolis you,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: know they had the young guy that they wanted to,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: go and you've got a better quarterback that can. GO
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: i DON'T.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I don't understand it sometimes.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: When you, like you, know you have a certified, baller
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: and you're, like but we could have a baller IF
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: i thought always thought it was like in my mind
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: because maybe it's it's just me and the Way i've
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: always played.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Football i'm, like you're best to live in.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Play But i've learned now it's all about development as
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: well for young guys through the, fire And i'm trying
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: to understand. It so it's, like you, know when you
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: sort of look at, it you, like, wait why are
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: we pivoting towards the future when the president is?
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Here that's, hard you, Know and that's and that's the
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: job of a staff in the front office to. DETERMINE
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: i think, QUARTERBACKS i think offensive line are too of
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: the positions where you really don't get any rotation of, players,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: right you, know and and so and so the decision
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: making on when to develop and when to put them
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: in and when to take, Somebody, LIKE i think you
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: have flexibility at these other positions to be able to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: develop these guys in a, rotation and it just doesn't
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: seem to, be you, know it's it's not that way
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: for offensive, line it's not that way for. Quarterback and you,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Know i'm like, YOU i see it out of both
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: both lenses where it's, like, hey we can win right,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: now and we can do it with this. Group but you,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: know there's there's also this lens of he's got to
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: cut his teeth at some, point and we feel like
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: he's he's got the potential to be a great. Player
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: so you, know that's that's the old. Saying if you've
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: got two, quarterbacks you don't have. One you, know you
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: just don't Have SO i don't, Know i'm kinda just
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: get one guy and let.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Them, ball no, doubt and do it early and just
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: like stick with, it, guna let me figure it. Out
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: oh all, right let me let me ask you of
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: course about, uh you, know a team you were part
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: of with The colts being what are they nine and?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Two eight and two right? Now first place AT? Afc,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: oh what do?
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: You what do?
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: You what do you think about then when The Super
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: bowl run? Out THE AFC afc strong right?
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Now, yeah THE afc. STRONG i think it's also wide.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Open you. KNOW i think you look at the top
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: of THE afc right now AND i think there's cold
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: there's people that you probably wouldn't have expected to be
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: there right that don't have recent championship, pedigree whether That's,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: indy whether It's, denver whether It's New. England but you
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: talk about the front runners in that conference and you're,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: saying where where is where Is mahomes where is you,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Know Herbamar jackson And Josh allen's below them as. Well
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: so you, KNOW i do, THINK i do think their
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: team's playing extremely good. FOOTBALL i do. THINK i do
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: think still, though like The bills and The chiefs and
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: even are making a way back into. It if they
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: find a way, in they're going to be dangerous in
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: the playoffs because they understand what it takes to. Win
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: SO i think we're seeing a bit of a changing
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: of the. Guard but something in me still, SAYS i
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: don't know about.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Saying for, me it's just like a breeze right, now
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: like more the current could get, strong but never Like
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: i'm never going to look At Pat mahomes Or Justin
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: herbert Or lamar and be, like, no they can't win
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: any more, Now, No they've got the.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Man it's.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Crazy what About Jonathan. Taylor he's a LEGIT mvp candidate right,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: now Right like he's, like, Say quan last.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Year is unbelievable, teammate awesome to play, with great, dude
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: great work. Ethic you, know those are the things you
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: don't know about players until you're behind the scenes with
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: them and you see them every. Day and so it
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: makes it you root for him even more because of
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: the kind of person that he. Is but his production
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: has been. Outrageous it's been so, good and, REALLY i
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: think his impact on that team is similar To saquan's last,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: year where as a running, back he's put that team
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: on his back and taking them to a height they
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: haven't been in a long. Time.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, LOOK i was confused when when you saw the
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: tickers was a season or two, ago when When indianapolis
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: wasn't trying to pay. Himself what so what do YOU i,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: said when you have a marquee running, back you'll give
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: him whatever you. Want, yes you see sa Kuon barkley
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: and The giants at year, Three i'll be, like, hey
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: here's this lifetime. Deal, like no matter what you, make
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: this is what you're. Making we'll update. Accordingly you'll get
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: A Jonathan, taylor you, know The Josh, jacobs The, aarons
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: THE i, mean you talk about just what The saints
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Without ak just the limited. Ability But John, robinson could
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: you the? Mummy he touched the, Feeling he makes people
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: around him.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Better, yeah you're, Right you're, Right, LIKE i.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Don't want to stand the running back. Market we could
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: talk about that part, Too like the running back market
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: is that. Low like there's guards making two times but
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: off with premiere office of A.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: GUARD i, mean the.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Speed bumps shouldn't be both.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Them Speed bumps should not be making what A ferrari.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Doesn't, cost what A maserati. Costs it just.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Doesn't there's things that go into.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: It that's that's the one right, there Because i'm gon
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: call him speed bump every. Time at this point of the,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: season who separated? Themselves we've talked about THE, afc of,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: course top three Being, Broncos, Patriots, COLTS, NFC.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Nfc he see seems a little bit more.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Muddled, YEAH i. AGREE i, mean you, Know philadelphia still
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: playing very good. Ball their defenses is. BALLING i Think
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: la The rams are playing really good. Football that game
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: between The rams In seattle last week was was really really.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Tough both defenses are.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Legit see it ended up the way it.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Did, Yeah, NO i mean, Listen, seattle even with the
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: four turnovers For, darnold still had a chance at the
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: end of that. Game and SO i think both those
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: teams are are really. Tough you, know in The. South
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: we'll see if The bucks can stay. HEALTHY i mean
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: you've seen. HIM i think The bucks are, tough but
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: their health has, been you, know an issue of really
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: contending with some of those top, teams and The lions
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: have been a little bit. Inconsistent SO i still think
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: like The lions have a run in, them given how
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: that team is, built and if they get hot at
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: the right, time you know, What you've been around it
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: for a long. Time getting hot at the right time,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: matters and they've got enough firepower in that building if they,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: DO i, think to make a. Run SO i think
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: THE nfc is going to be really. Interesting is?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Nice jared go dices it up really? Nice, YEAH i,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: MEAN i, mean, yeah IT'S i THINK i think THE
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: nfc is a little bit more closer together in terms
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: of a favorite being out, there WHICH i love that for.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Us, yes you, KNOW i NEED i need everybody to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: keep come back.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Losing let's get a, comeback and we've probably got to
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: go all seven in a. Row but you, Know god is.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Good there's there's a way we're not. Out and that's
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: ALL i can ALL i can owe. For you know,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: what looking back at, IT i haven't asked this. ONE
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: i guess you had the highlight games you, had you,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: know my, highlights your. Highlights we talked about The atlanta
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: is there is there a defining game of your career
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: that you look back and be, like you know What Matt,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Ryan Papa met showed them why we was on the?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Attack, yeah you know WHAT i.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Played you, KNOW i think the bigger, games you, know
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: obviously would have. WISH i wish we would have won
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: that Super bowl that we played, in but you know
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: what have come. Back but the but THE nfc championship
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: game before going Against Aaron, Rodgers, UH i think it
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: was one of the best GAMES i ever played in my.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Life and and so you, know when you have those
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: opportunities to win a conference, championship to go to a
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Super bowl and you can perform and you can, deliver
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: it's one of the Ones i'm most proud, of for.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Sure but you, know there's a lot of. Them there's
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of THEM i look back, on and you,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: know some maybe don't have the you, know the the
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: cachet that some of the bigger games, have but you're, like,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: MAN i was doing my thing that, night right AND
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: i WAS i was performing and it might have not
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: been at the gaudiest of, numbers but LIKE i played
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: really really solid. Football but you, know the ONE i
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: think of is probably that twenty SIXTEEN nfc. Championship.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Mm, yeah, yeah that's that's, solid and is to win
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: AN nfc. Championship, yeah gotta do that next next year or.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Two get, there, man go for, it no.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Doubt gotta go for, It atlanta in.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: It that'd be. PERFECT i don't like that for.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: ME i don't like that for, me you, know like
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: because at that POINT i probably if we play each,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: other we probably like one in. ONE i don't like.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: THAT i want to BE i want to be a
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: clean sweek to it, All, OKAY i don't like The
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: hey appreciate You matt for tapping in with the. Podcast
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: everything that you've done on the field is highly. Respected
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: the way you're taking on THE tv airwaves is. Amazing
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: we love to watch you ON. Tv now THAT i
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: don't have to deal with you on the, Field i've
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: got to find a new favorite quarterback to.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: HIT i don't know who it's going to. Be nobody's
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: gonna take your.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: PLACE i thank, You, Hit Bryce young Or Baker mayfield
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: man stay out the.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Same they're, small, Gotcha they're not the.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Same fully number. One thank you for having me on number.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Two you got a future IN. Tv but keep playing
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: as long as you, can, man because you're still.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: BALLING i appreciate that that was the drive for. Success
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: conversation presented By. Toyota Let's Go, Places.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: No purchase, necessary void where prohibited ends two eight twenty,
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Six open to legal residents of the FIFTY Us states
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: AND dc eighteen and. Over for complete, details how to
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: enter prizes and official, rules Visit Toyota's Game Day giveaways dot.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Com hey and shout out to the listeners for tapping.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: In you can watch you.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Can you can find ourcast On, iHeartRadio, App apple, podcasts
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: all podcast. Platforms it's on watch us on THE nfl
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: YouTube change the YouTube. Page this is off the edge of.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Me your Host Cam, jordan And i'm with my Guy
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Matt ryan because we're forever endeded