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Ripple Episode 4 (Netflix) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark and sometimes Netflix
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  Speaker 2: review podcast. I'm Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Wendy, I'm a former Hallmark hater.
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  Speaker 2: On today's episode, we are reviewing a Netflix series, Ripple,
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  Speaker 2: episode four. We are reviewing every episode of this series weekly.
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  Speaker 2: This episode is titled The Storm and it is currently
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  Speaker 2: available to stream on Netflix. If you are new to
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  Speaker 2: us because of these Netflix reviews, welcome. We typically are
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  Speaker 2: a Hallmark review podcast. We do Hallmark movies, Hallmark series,
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  Speaker 2: but we are expanding our reach a little bit into
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  Speaker 2: Netflix and perhaps other streamers.
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  Speaker 3: On the Internet. I will say, I agree. Hey, before
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  Speaker 3: we jump into this episode, can I talk about some
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  Speaker 3: breaking news it's not that breaking.
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  Speaker 1: About one of the stars of this show.
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  Speaker 3: Ian Harding. Yes, so, Deadline reported it's we're eighteenth that
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  Speaker 3: Ian Harding and his Pretty Little Liar's co star Lucy
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  Speaker 3: Hale are reuniting for a Christmas holiday romcom movie called
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  Speaker 3: The Twelve Dates of Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: I know there are so many iterations of that title
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  Speaker 2: out there. It's got to be terrible for SEO one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent. That has been a lingering question if you
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  Speaker 2: guys don't know what we're talking about. Hallmark has put
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  Speaker 2: out an incredible six episode series called Twelve Dates Till Christmas, which.
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  Speaker 3: Is a It's based on a book. The book is
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  Speaker 3: called The Twelve Dates of Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so they did change it, tweak it a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: but now we have like this coming out as well well.
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  Speaker 2: And there's also a Hallmark movie called On the Twelfth
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  Speaker 2: Date of Christmas, and I believe there's another movie called
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  Speaker 2: The Twelve Dates of Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of confusing, but also what this is
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  Speaker 3: what it strikes me this is basically the same story
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  Speaker 3: we have. Lucy Hale is a successful shop owner who
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  Speaker 3: has devoted her energy to her career at the expense
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  Speaker 3: of her dating life, and her siblings promise to make
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  Speaker 3: her go on twelve dates in the twelve weeks leading
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  Speaker 3: up to Christmas in hopes of finding mister Wright. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if Ian is a friend, if he is
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  Speaker 3: a potential date or what.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, he's got to be the guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm guessing he's he's got to be the guy.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't I'm I'm gonna guess this is This
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  Speaker 3: is not for Hallmark. No, I gonna guess. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: say who it's for. But interesting. People are really hyped
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  Speaker 3: on seeing these two back together again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they put a teaser of them together and everyone's like,
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  Speaker 2: what does it mean?
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  Speaker 1: What does it mean? It's pretty little liars coming back?
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  Speaker 3: But no, Yeah, I'm hoping we get to talk to
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  Speaker 3: Ian soon and we can get a better understanding of
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  Speaker 3: this project.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, he hands booked and busy these days.
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  Speaker 3: He sure is, and I see why I'm a big
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  Speaker 3: shan me too. I have no chill if we interview
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  Speaker 3: this guy, I have no freaking chill. Guys, all right,
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  Speaker 3: are you ready for a synopsis? Let's hear Episode four,
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  Speaker 3: The Storm. Chris returns home reflecting on where she first
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  Speaker 3: fell in love with music. Walter decides to pick up
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  Speaker 3: basketball again and gets a warm reception. The synopsis synopsis
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  Speaker 3: available on IMDb are really limited week very weak. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know who's putting these in there, but give us,
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  Speaker 3: give us some more. I mean more than that happens, Guys,
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  Speaker 3: It's not Walter just decides to pick a basketball again.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, By the way, Walter is my MVP.
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  Speaker 3: He is my most favorite character on the show. I
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  Speaker 3: want to protect this man in bubble wrap.
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  Speaker 1: Show about Walter. I'm so worried about Walter.
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  Speaker 3: I think Frankie Faison is so good, He's in what
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  Speaker 3: a tuble?
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  Speaker 1: Such a good actor. Yes, and Walter's trajectory is mostly positive,
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  Speaker 1: which has me worried.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk news and notes before we talk all about
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  Speaker 2: this episode. Scott Smith directed this episode of Ripple. He
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  Speaker 2: was responsible for last week's episode, The twenty. In addition
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  Speaker 2: to a number of Hallmark projects, he recently directed several
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  Speaker 2: episodes of the CW series Moonshine.
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  Speaker 3: Kita Robinson wrote this episode. Among her previous writing credits
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  Speaker 3: include the series Blackish, Glow, and You're the Worst, as
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  Speaker 3: well as New Girl.
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  Speaker 2: Our cast returns Frankie Fayson is Walter, Julia chanis Chris
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  Speaker 2: Ian Harding is Nate, Sydney Agadong as Aria, Marcyta House
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  Speaker 2: as Tara, and Sarah Swier as Ellis. Also returning, we
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  Speaker 2: have Robert Bizzacci as John Vanessa Smyth is Clear, and
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  Speaker 2: Nicola Correa de Moude as Sylvie. Milton Barnes joins the
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  Speaker 2: cast as Walter's friend Bill Fisher. Milton has one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and twenty one acting credits and has recently been in
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  Speaker 2: Mistletoe Murders on Hallmark. Also David in Disguise, John Wayne
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  Speaker 2: Gacy and the series Doc Man. Lots of crossover with
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  Speaker 2: Doc Yes, hospital shows tend to have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: you know, you need a lot of patience people coming
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  Speaker 2: through the door. Yeah, Danny Wall plays Nate's surgeon, Doctor Ross.
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  Speaker 2: Danny has been in a number of projects including Total Recall,
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  Speaker 2: The Shape of Water, and Snow Piercer.
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  Speaker 3: We briefly meet Lisa Gay Hamilton as Walter's dating app Match.
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  Speaker 3: She has eighty three acting credits and viewers will likely
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  Speaker 3: recognize her from the practice. More recently, she's been in
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  Speaker 3: The Gilded Age and The Lincoln Lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: Brendan Wall plays Chris's dad, Rhys Aldridge. Brendan has forty
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  Speaker 2: one acting credits, which includes episodes of Murdoch Mysteries and
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  Speaker 2: the series Air Crash Investigation, as well as the series Suits.
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  Speaker 2: We are going to take a quick break and come
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  Speaker 2: right back with our first impressions. Hey, Wendy, what is
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  Speaker 2: your first impression of Ripple episode for the Storm?
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  Speaker 3: Well, this show gives us enough air to breathe, like
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  Speaker 3: I exhaled at the end of the episode. But I
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  Speaker 3: think maybe the hardest part hasn't happened yet.
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  Speaker 1: That is my biggest fear as well.
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  Speaker 3: White share first impression.
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  Speaker 2: My first impression is, while staying true to form, they
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  Speaker 2: tweak their format ever so slightly.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, tell me more what you noticed?
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  Speaker 2: So in the first few episodes, we see a physical
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  Speaker 2: object that we're following through. Yeah, this episode is a
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  Speaker 2: little bit different. I guess episode two with the water
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  Speaker 2: main break isn't quite that way, huh. I was envisioning
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  Speaker 2: like the pebble, the dollar. In this case, it's just
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  Speaker 2: the storm that connects all of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and after episode three, I was thinking, how are
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  Speaker 1: we gonna do this?
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  Speaker 2: How are we gonna have like a single item that
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  Speaker 2: connects It's not that, though, It's just like there is
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  Speaker 2: a connective tissue, and in this case it's the storm.
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  Speaker 2: And it's interesting that it's able to connect them in
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  Speaker 2: a wider arena, like it's connecting them across continents in
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  Speaker 2: a way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great way to describe it, connective tissue.
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  Speaker 1: I liked a lot about this episode.
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  Speaker 3: What did you like? I like each episode, like I
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  Speaker 3: don't ever come away and go like, eh, that was
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  Speaker 3: a dumb one. Yeah. Never, I'm never gonna say that.
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  Speaker 3: Are some heavier than others. Yes, what I liked about
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  Speaker 3: this episode and it's it's basically the format that this
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  Speaker 3: show is built on is like this particular one is
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  Speaker 3: about like misconnections, and nearly every storyline is built around
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  Speaker 3: like almost like we have, Chris almost makes it to
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  Speaker 3: her dad in time, Nate almost gets the support that
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  Speaker 3: he wants. Aria almost says what she's feeling, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Walter almost like so to me, I like, I get
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  Speaker 3: is this a metaphor? Is that what it's called? Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: these things that are happening, I like that a lot.
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  Speaker 3: The storm here, I think, is the connective tissue. Like
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  Speaker 3: you said, obviously, the episode is called the storm, but
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  Speaker 3: it's not just about weather, you know, It's it's the
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  Speaker 3: thing that's interrupting, like the conversations that need to be have,
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  Speaker 3: or there's timing problems or whatever. I like the themes
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  Speaker 3: that this show puts out. I fully agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: I was just looking for the titles of the episodes
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  Speaker 2: because it seems like the title gives away what our
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  Speaker 2: connective issue is. Episode one of Stones. Throughout episode two,
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  Speaker 2: Drip Drip, Drip, the twenty the storm, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Called the Flyer.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that means, but no.
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  Speaker 2: I like the idea of all these missed connections. One
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  Speaker 2: thing I like is our world expands in this episode
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of different ways. One Nate intentionally and
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  Speaker 2: accidentally lets a lot more people in on what's going
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  Speaker 2: on with him, which is mainly good, and I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: that it's just coming out because I understand Nate's perspective,
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  Speaker 2: like he doesn't want it seems like Nate doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to be at burden, but it also seems like he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't really want to live in this world where he's sick,
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  Speaker 2: and so if people don't know, he doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: be that person.
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  Speaker 1: But it is easier.
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  Speaker 2: It's easier on the viewer, and it is easier in
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  Speaker 2: his life if people know and they're able to show
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  Speaker 2: up for him and he doesn't have to do all
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  Speaker 2: this dancing to explain his absences and to request help
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  Speaker 2: where he needs it. And to me, it feels like
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  Speaker 2: an exhale, like you said, when people know, Okay, that's
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  Speaker 2: out there. Now we can just go on with it.
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  Speaker 2: In addition, Walter's world expands the up top. I said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so worried about Walter because things are going in
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  Speaker 2: the right direction. He has that dream about Brenda, which
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  Speaker 2: is really well done, because to me, I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was like a memory, and then you know, we see
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  Speaker 2: kind of where we realize it's a dream and she's saying,
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  Speaker 2: use the whole bed, live your life. And he shows
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  Speaker 2: up back at his pickup basketball game and his friends
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  Speaker 2: are also happy to see him, and why didn't you
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  Speaker 2: tell us? We would have been there for you, And
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  Speaker 2: then they are there for him, and I just am like,
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  Speaker 2: so proud of Walter for taking this step and showing
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  Speaker 2: up at that game doing what he needs to do
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  Speaker 2: to move forward.
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  Speaker 1: In his life.
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  Speaker 2: And then his friends show up, and then he has
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  Speaker 2: this nice moment at the bar with his friends and
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  Speaker 2: Ellis and Rebecca and Tara and Sylvie and his world
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  Speaker 2: is growing and expanding, and then I think he's doing
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  Speaker 2: all of this work to move forward and his he
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  Speaker 2: kind of accidentally launches his dating app and we see
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  Speaker 2: glimpses of a woman who was like, Okay, Walter, what.
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  Speaker 1: You got going on there?
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  Speaker 2: It worries me because in a show where so many
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  Speaker 2: things are going wrong, when his life is moving forward,
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  Speaker 2: I'm scared.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear that. I have a question for you.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it's too soon or maybe not appropriate
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  Speaker 3: for the people in his life to be like, bro,
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  Speaker 3: you need to get it. They're not saying that, but
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  Speaker 3: you need to get out there and like start dating again,
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  Speaker 3: I just lost his wife.
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  Speaker 2: I do if that were something he wants, fine, but
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  Speaker 2: I do think it's too soon for people to start
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  Speaker 2: pushing for it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's right for them to encourage him to
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  Speaker 2: be out in the world, reconnect with your friends, moving
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  Speaker 2: your use the whole bed. All of that feels right
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  Speaker 2: and appropriate. But it has not been long enough for
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  Speaker 2: them to be like, you got to get yourself on
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  Speaker 2: a dating app?
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  Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, yeah, I think so too. I have I
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  Speaker 3: have a wish, So we'll circle back to the wishes,
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  Speaker 3: but we'll circle back to this conversation and my wishes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I love Walter's watching his arc.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just so I'm so afraid of what will happen.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not worried about any other character as much as
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  Speaker 3: I am about Walter.
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  Speaker 2: No same, even though there's some quietly devastating things coming
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  Speaker 2: for many of them.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly exactly. Back to Nate for a second. I am
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  Speaker 3: really happy that he has finally like let people in.
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you from personal experience, it's hard to
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  Speaker 3: you feel like you need to like manage somebody's reaction. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: to news of I have cancer and so I can
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  Speaker 3: see how he was, like maybe reluctant to tell people.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's been trying to manage Claire's reaction to it.
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  Speaker 3: That can be a lot. I was happy that he
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  Speaker 3: did allow Claire to be the one to be there
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  Speaker 3: for him for surgery. To me, my takeaway was like,
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  Speaker 3: he realizes that he can't do it alone. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if that's fair to Claire, because if Chris was around,
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  Speaker 3: I think Chris would have been there and Claire would
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  Speaker 3: have not, So part of that feels icky to me,
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, what are you gonna do?
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  Speaker 2: The clar scenes were really I had a lot of
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  Speaker 2: feelings about the clar scenes because she really steps up
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  Speaker 2: in this episode and he lets her, which is nice,
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  Speaker 2: and because I can't trust anything, part of me is thinking,
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  Speaker 2: is he just making peace with the fact that these
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  Speaker 2: are two people who are going to be in each
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  Speaker 2: other's lives forever and it makes good sense for them
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  Speaker 2: to be on good terms as co parents and as humans,
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  Speaker 2: or is he in the vein of I need help.
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  Speaker 2: The person and I thought was going to help me
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  Speaker 2: has somewhat ghosted me. So I'm gotta be nice to
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  Speaker 2: the one person who's willing to show up.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't like I don't like that.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't either. I don't neither.
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  Speaker 2: And again I don't have any idea what his motivation
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  Speaker 2: is there, but it does seem like Chris's absence kind
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  Speaker 2: of drove him back into needing Claire, and Claire's wonderful
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  Speaker 2: she steps in to help him explain to their daughter.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was a great scene.
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  Speaker 2: She shows up for him at the hospital, She's the
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  Speaker 2: one who receives the news from the doctor. They have
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  Speaker 2: a really nice scene after he comes out of surgery.
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  Speaker 2: And so in the last episode, I was saying how
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  Speaker 2: I felt for Claire because he wasn't being very nice
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  Speaker 2: to her, And in this episode, I feel for her
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  Speaker 2: because she's taking on so much of the emotional weight.
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  Speaker 1: Of this experience.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm worried for what happens when Chris returns and
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  Speaker 2: Nate has his person again and doesn't need Claire as much.
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  Speaker 2: Is he going to allow her to be as present?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know. I don't know. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 3: Chris and her dad's storyline.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: We never really get like a full understanding. Did she
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  Speaker 3: get an emergency phone call while she was at the
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  Speaker 3: hospital and then left right away. Is that what had happened?
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  Speaker 1: That's what it seems like.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, okay. I liked all these flashback scenes of her
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  Speaker 3: younger self and her you know, showing us like she
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  Speaker 3: had a really good relationship with her dad and it
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  Speaker 3: kind of went sideways over some dude who was controlling.
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  Speaker 3: But from the parent perspective, I like fully sided with
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  Speaker 3: the dad because he wanted so much more for her
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  Speaker 3: and knew that she wanted so much more for herself,
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  Speaker 3: and he was like, what are you doing with this dude?
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  Speaker 3: That was interesting to watch unfold, and that scene is
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  Speaker 3: heartbreaking when she's on the stoop or whatever talking through
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  Speaker 3: the intercom and you think like he is just being
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  Speaker 3: non right responsive, and we see him like going close
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  Speaker 3: the blinding is like that's better, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, he's just shutting her out, Like how
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  Speaker 3: awful is that? And then you see the note about
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  Speaker 3: it being the intercom being broken, like one little thing
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  Speaker 3: completely changed their relationship.
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  Speaker 2: I really am glad that she was able to have
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  Speaker 2: the realization of what happened. At the end of the episode,
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  Speaker 2: when the delivery guys like, well, that intercom has been
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  Speaker 2: broken for years and you can see the wheels turning.
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  Speaker 2: But how frustrating as a person to be like, we
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  Speaker 2: missed so much? Yeah, because of this one, this intercom,
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  Speaker 2: she was trying to make amends with him. He clearly
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  Speaker 2: would have accepted that from her, and then they both
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  Speaker 2: stubbornly didn't reach.
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  Speaker 1: Out after that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of heartbreaking, to be honest, And we
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  Speaker 3: see her throw her phone away. So did he even
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  Speaker 3: have a way to contact her after that? I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: And that's a good question. That's a good question. I
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  Speaker 3: did like that full circle moment, though, I thought, like,
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  Speaker 3: how easy that was that she got there going, oh,
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  Speaker 3: the intercom's broken. Let me think about this, this one
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  Speaker 3: moment ten years ago or whatever it is, where I
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  Speaker 3: stood out here and tried to like reach my dad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but how important of a moment, you know some things.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I think you probably would remember that forever, the moment
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: where he in her mind officially turned away from her.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I guess, but I don't know if I would have
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: put two and two together no so quickly myself. Yeah,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: My one last like is more of a question for you,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: is Tara not really into Sylvie.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's very interesting. So here's how I
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: read the situation. I don't know. I think having her
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: in her space overwhelmed her. I think she likes her
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: new relationship. She seems happy in her new relationship, but
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the reality of the new relationship where it's not just
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: all sunshine and dating and making out, you know, her
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: partner snoring in her physical space, was too much for her.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: That's my take, got it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I can accept that. I can accept that. It's like
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: there's a Hallmark show called We Just Talked About It
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Twelve Dates Still Christmas. There is a similar storyline in there,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: where there's a character Evelyn, who is starting to date
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: again after losing her husband, right, and she is struggling
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: with feelings of like I haven't had to worry about
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: somebody for ten years. Like I wonder if it's kind
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: of the same thread here of like, you know, Tara
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: hasn't been with her wife because her wife has passed,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: and maybe she's not quite ready. But I think it's
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: more along the lines of you said, like she's just
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: not ready, like in her space yet.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we know that Sylvie's in a couple more episodes
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: for me. I wasn't so much reading it as she
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: wasn't ready for the feelings, as they just it was
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: too much, too soon, And maybe she was like, oh,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I don't like her this much.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: You know, God's sad. It is sad, you know.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I hope it's more, Oh wow, I'm not ready for
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: someone else to be in this bed. You know they
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: talk about sleeping on your own side of the bed. Yeah,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden you have someone else there.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I hope it's more that and not like WHOA, All right, yeah?
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Are you ready to move on to wishes? Well?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the final airport scene.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Does that appear anywhere for you?
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: No?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: With Chris and Nate?
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I have some questions here. Yeah,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: he is supposed to sit and I had to rewind
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: it because I was like, what are the seat numbers?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: He's supposed to be in her row and then he's not,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: So what happens?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know, that's my question. I don't know.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And I rewound it too because I noted the seat
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: numbers the first time, but then I thought, oh, did
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: they not have the same flights? But he does have
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: a ticket to New York. They are clearly on the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: same flight, so I don't know what's happening there.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Miss. I loved the idea of like, these two have
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: come in contact before, you know, just by a way
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: of proximity, not even like interacting. It's kind of interesting.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: What's that say about? Like the universe? These two are
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: supposed to be together, They were supposed to meet together
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: a long time ago, and that didn't happen. So what happened?
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: You know? I'm interested in this thread?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Me too? All right, let's talk wishes.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I thought Aria's breakdown needed I needed more context here.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I'm only assuming what happened. I'm assuming she got her
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: period and that's why she's upset.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, but the line I knew I should have taken
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: a test throws me Exactly.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Does that mean?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: If she had taken the test, she would have known
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: she wasn't pregnant, and then she wouldn't have been carrying
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: this hope.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: For so long?
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Potentially? I agree, I need more context. Yeah, her story
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: is still the biggest unknown. We haven't circled back at
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: all to the photo and the tattoo and her dad.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I know we're on episode four. I can't remember when
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: all that happened. Maybe episode two. I'm assuming we're gonna
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: get there, but I feel like they don't show her
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: a ton. It's been mostly about Nate. Yes.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Aria remains a very big question mark for me, and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: my other wish revolves around John. I can't really figure
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: out what's going on with him and where he is
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: in his head in his relationships. We know he ended
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: things with Desi, but but I'm curious what the motivation
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: was there. You know, did he just realize like, oh God,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I'm doing something wrong.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: There was a scene when he comes home from work
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: and the apartment is dark and he's like, yes, Aria,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh gosh, like what happened? Like
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: she's no law And then she's like hey babe, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: she's fine, and I thought, Oh, they're hinting it something
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: darker happening here. But there's so many unknowns that that's
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: my biggest wish about the series right now, is some
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: clarity there.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm sure we'll get it eventually. Yeah, Like parts
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: of me are like I need to know everything now.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Hm hmm, Yeah, I have no chill. Another one of
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: my wishes is and this is what I said we
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: would circle back. What is the timeframe we're working with here?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Has it been months? Has it been weeks? Is this
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: a few days between these things? Because how long has
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: it been since Walter's wife died? And now we're like
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: pushing him.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: To date, Like what, Yeah, that's a great question because
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: it seems like from episode three and four it's back
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: to back days.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: It seems like it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because Chris left the hospital went to.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: The airport right exactly, but exactly, But.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: The cancer treatment timeline doesn't line up for me, like
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: you had one chemo infusion and now you're having surgery,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: like you would have more because he had said we're
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: going to do chemo to shrink the tumor drink Yep,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: it would be more than one chemo infusion for that.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: So ye, that time right, It is weird to me
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: And like the Tara and Sylvie like wow, we've just
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: jumped right in, like you guys just had a date.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you're like babe and like relationship ye.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And my final wish is the
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: missing ring kind of just dropped like yeah, we know
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: nothing about that. I'm sure it's going to resurface, like
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: at some point Aria is going to see the ring
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: on Claire or something is going to happen. The financial
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: woes between Nate and Claire like not addressed again.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: No, there's many loose threads.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and also Nate's mom, you know, she
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: just in and out nothing else. So I'm sure these
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: things will pick back up, but just not in this
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: particular episode. Mm hmm.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Are you ready to talk? Did you see that?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I am?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I just have a couple like.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice little callbacks throughout the episode. Uh, the woman
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Chris meets in line at the airport, Yeah, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: she meets a flight attendant on the fly and then
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: they're together in London. Just cute little moment. The exact
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: callback to Chris closing the blinds in her father's apartment
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: exactly the way he did the sun blinding her eyes.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Just some nice parallel moments.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: My only did you see that? Are like when Walter
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: decides to use the whole bed. You know it's it's
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: this is storytelling down right for me. Yeah, there's no light,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: he doesn't have to stay out loud. I'm gonna move
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: to the middle of the bed, like you know, he
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: just does it. We're watching, we see him a lot
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: in this episode, like struggling with sleep. So I thought
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: that was really good. Last week I asked you if
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: you had noticed Walter's apartment.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, I did take special note of his gallery wall
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: today in contrast to his dating profile.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I loved it.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: I think I noticed in this episode that the bar
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: is really cool too. It's not like some divy bar,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: like this looks like a place like people would want
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: to be and hang out. Like. It's very the tone
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: of it, like in terms of like color that they used,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: it's very comforting. I whoever was like the set designers here,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I really good job.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gorgeous.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Really good job. And then my last did you see
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: that is like the whole rainbow at the end. Yeah.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: In my mind, rainbows are like a symbol of like
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: good and hope and whatever. And you know, the story
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: has cleared, but nothing has been fixed here. No, no,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: it's still like all bad. It's not all bad. I
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: take that back, it's not all bad. Like there's good
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: things happening for Walter, but like you know, the storm
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: has cleared, but there's a lot of unresolved issues happening.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those still real cloudy in terms of some of
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: these stories.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Here forecast is still real cloudy.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: One little minor thing I thought Walter's continued reliance on
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: an edible arrangement as something to do when someone's going
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: through a hard time was funny. I love an edible arrangement, FYI,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: and I love I do too. Someone brought me one
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: after I had a baby. It was delicious. I also
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I love Walter's circle of friends. I love that he
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Ellis and Rebecca are part of his circle of friends,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: as well as, of course Tara. I love how much
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Ellis loves Walter and how she's leaning on him.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Look, I love Walter. What can I say?
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Yep? Exactly.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Well, Hey, thank you for listening to this episode of
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Girls Gone Hallmark. We will be back next time with
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