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"What Friends and Loved Ones Do: A Cancer Diagnosis Support Journey" · The Eye Believe Podcast

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  Everyone.
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  I'm Megan with the Eye Believe podcast.
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  Welcome to another episode.
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  We have the wonderful Aimee
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  Kendrick of What Friends Do with us,
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  and I'm really excited
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  to tell you all about what she does.
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  But first,
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  I want to thank you for tuning in.
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  We can't do any of this without you.
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  So whether you're listening
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  or watching, please keep tuning in
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  because that helps us
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  continue to do what we do.
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  So without further ado,
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  let me introduce Aimee.
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  Hi, Megan, thanks so much.
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  It's a pleasure to be here today.
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  Welcome, Aimee.
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  I'm so excited to have you.
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  I love what friends do.
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  I'm really excited
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  to tell everybody about it,
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  because I think that our community
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  is going to really,
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  really benefit from this.
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  So first tell us what is what friends do.
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  So, what friends do is an online, tool
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  to allow friends
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  and loved ones
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  and family members
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  to organize communication
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  and support for someone
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  going through any major life events.
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  And we really tend to specialize
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  in, people who are diagnosed with cancer,
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  going through cancer treatments
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  and that journey.
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  So we've helped
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  hundreds of thousands of people
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  through events in life
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  that they weren't necessarily
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  expecting to have to go through.
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  but really looking at ways to provide
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  communication and provide
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  actionable support.
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  I can't wait to get into all those
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  details with you.
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  Oh that's amazing. I'm so excited.
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  So is it
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  is it just a website or an app
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  or what's the platform?
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  So the platform, for
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  the general public is called
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  What Friends do.com.
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  And it is software
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  that you can access from your tablet,
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  your computer
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  or your mobile device
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  from any browser that you have.
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  and it will interact
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  seamlessly without any problems.
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  Now, if you are a lucky person
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  and you happen
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  to, be at a facility
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  that has one of our private
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  branded, software applications,
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  then you might also have the opportunity
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  to use a mobile app,
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  but you might not even know it's
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  powered by what friends do.
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  That's awesome.
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  That's a lot of flexibility
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  for everybody.
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  So, And I should add
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  that actually we have kind of done one
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  weird new thing, just in the past month
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  and as a tech company
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  have kind of reversed and gone backwards
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  and just launched a paper organizer
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  to allow family and patients
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  to write down
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  all of their needs in one specific place.
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  So it's kind of the opposite of an app.
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  I actually love that
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  because I am a paper person
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  and I'm very visual.
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  I want to see it on paper.
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  So even when I put stuff
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  in my calendar on my phone,
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  I will write it in my planner
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  because I need to see it.
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  Well, that's what we have for you.
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  It's perfect. So how did you start that?
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  So we started this,
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  I started it with my family
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  because we had a loved one
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  who was diagnosed
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  with terminal brain cancer
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  when she was 25.
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  And we were those best friends.
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  Kind of first line of defense
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  going between
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  the family
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  who was at the hospital
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  and sharing information with the masses,
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  and what we found
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  as we were going back and forth was that
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  as we were sharing information
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  and status updates on
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  what was happening with our friend Laura,
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  the response was always twofold.
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  The first was, please tell the family
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  that I love them
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  and I'm thinking of them.
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  And the second was always
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  and let me know
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  if there's anything I can do to help.
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  And keeping track of the information
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  was a little bit daunting,
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  but more than that was when we found ways
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  for friends to do something they would.
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  They felt
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  honored and privileged and more connected
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  to the family
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  that they had the opportunity
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  to do something.
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  And then the family felt loved
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  and supported and connected
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  with their entire community
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  because they
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  we provided a simple, you know,
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  what would be great?
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  Can someone drop off
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  a basket of breakfast
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  for the family
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  while they're in the hospital?
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  Can someone else drive to
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  and from an appointment?
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  Is someone else able
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  to just take the dog on a walk?
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  These are the things that can really be
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  super beneficial to the family today,
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  and not something
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  that's going to be
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  a burden to any friend.
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  That is so important to too,
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  because I feel like so many people,
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  they either don't know what they need
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  in the beginning especially,
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  or if they need to help
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  imposing by asking
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  and they just don't know,
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  like if it's okay to ask
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  or if someone offers,
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  they want to say yes,
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  but then they feel like they're
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  they can't say yes
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  because we have to do it all ourselves.
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  And thinking it through,
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  especially as you are
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  newly diagnosed with something
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  and or there's been
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  a change in your diagnosis
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  or treatment plan, it's
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  overwhelming, right?
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  Like you
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  are just doing everything you can
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  to keep one foot in front of the other.
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  And so having to on the spot
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  come up with,
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  oh yeah, I could use
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  help with these things or,
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  or sometimes you do come up
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  with what those ideas are
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  and you're like,
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  I need something
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  to take the trash out tomorrow
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  because I can't seem to get the trash
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  can out this week.
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  You know?
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  Yeah, it feels awkward.
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  It feels awkward.
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  How do you start that conversation?
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  And, like,
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  what about when you're thinking about it
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  at three in the morning?
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  Well, that's not
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  when people are calling and saying,
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  let me know what I can do.
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  You can't say that you to feel weird
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  sending a text at that hour, you know.
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  Oh, absolutely.
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  And then also, like,
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  you know,
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  are you adding a to do list
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  by by telling them what do you need.
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  Like now they have to sit down
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  and make up a list.
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  Like if you can just come in
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  and say,
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  hey, I'm going to
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  I'm going to walk your dog this week
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  because I know you have a dog
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  and I'm sure it needs to be.
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  Walked well,
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  and then so as we're on the dog walking,
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  I'm going to just throw myself
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  under the bus for a second here.
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  Love it.
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  Please don't ever ask me to walk your dog
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  like I love your dog.
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  I promise I do,
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  but I cannot handle
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  picking up the dog poop
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  and that is not my thing.
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  Okay?
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  But but there are a lot of other things
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  that are my thing
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  that I would love the opportunity
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  to help with.
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  And my son,
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  or my sister, or tons of my friends.
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  They're like, yeah,
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  I would love to take the dog on the walk,
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  but please don't ask me
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  to go to the grocery for you.
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  And please
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  don't ask me to make you dinner.
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  I was actually speaking with
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  a woman earlier today
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  and she is, a highly educated
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  healthcare executive.
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  Extraordinarily compassionate,
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  totally overwhelmed
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  because she's trying to help a friend
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  go through a situation right now.
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  And she's like,
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  I don't know,
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  everybody just expects me
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  to take her dinner,
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  but I can't even get dinner
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  on the table myself
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  because I hate cooking.
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  Like that's not my thing.
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  And I said,
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  friend, like, you're an extraordinary
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  financial whiz
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  and you love the paperwork.
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  What if you help her organize her finance
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  and she lit up from the inside
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  because that's her gift.
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  And she was like,
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  I would love to be able
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  to go through and say,
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  these are the bills that need to be paid.
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  These are the ways that you need
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  to follow up with insurance.
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  These are the other forms of paperwork
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  that need to happen.
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  You would think that I asked her.
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  I mean, she was so excited. It's amazing.
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  And that is so true.
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  Like you have to play
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  to your strong points.
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  What are you good at?
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  What can you give
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  that's going to be beneficial
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  and not stress you out
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  and deplete you at the same time?
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  That's a huge part of it.
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  Because you're also going to show up
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  better for your friend. Absolutely.
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  So if you, as the person going through
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  it, are able to.
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  So people think that bringing meals
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  is the thing that you do. Right.
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  And that's so important.
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  We have to be nourished.
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  And so I am not downplaying
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  meals like that's
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  always the number one thing.
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  But if you can allow yourself to open up
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  just a little bit to the other things
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  that are overwhelming you in life,
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  they might not overwhelm your friends.
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  They might not overwhelm
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  your friend who's a financial planner.
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  Who for whom? This is super easy.
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  Your friend for whom
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  gardening is their passion,
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  and they would love the opportunity
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  to make sure that your yard is mowed
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  in the summer or something else, like,
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  there are a lot of things that,
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  we sometimes forget
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  and that when you're
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  going through a major event in your life,
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  you don't want everything else
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  to have to fall by the wayside.
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  But it usually does
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  because you just don't have capacity.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  That's so important.
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  And it's so hard to ask for help
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  and to accept it.
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  So I love that you guys do this.
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  I think it's so important.
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  Yes.
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  Well, and the
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  the who has a study that shows people
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  who have stronger
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  social support
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  networks have better outcomes.
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  And where this where I'm going with this
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  is that, you're creating more connection
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  when you're allowing people in
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  and when you're allowing people
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  to help support you.
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  whether you want to admit it or not,
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  you probably feel kind of good
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  that someone cares about you
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  and they're doing nice things for you,
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  and it actually feels really good.
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  There's a little dopamine hit
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  when you do something nice
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  for someone else, right?
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  So we are taking care of,
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  trying to help, like,
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  round out that quality of care
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  that you need that is essential
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  when you're going through
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  any kind of life event,
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  specifically if you're talking about,
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  you know, like an eye cancer diagnosis
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  or something like that,
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  your life is changing
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  in a lot of ways, right?
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  So, I mean, any.
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  Inadequacy, a lot of the times
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  they can't even come out of the bedroom
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  for a couple of weeks
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  because they can't be around light.
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  So they are literally
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  can't drive their kids somewhere
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  they can't see.
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  Like, you know, it's a huge, huge thing.
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  It's a huge, huge thing.
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  And knowing that people love you
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  and care about you
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  and want to help again,
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  people want to help. They do.
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  And one of the things that you said
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  when we talked
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  before that I loved was that, you know,
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  when you don't let your friends help,
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  they might be maybe
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  a little offended of like, hey,
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  I thought we were better friends.
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  I thought you trusted me.
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  And I think that's such an.
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  Important way to look at it.
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  Because you're not imposing,
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  you're letting them do
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  what they're wanting to do for you.
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  And if you say no, you
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  you might hurt their feelings
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  a little bit, you know?
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  And if you flip it
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  and put you on that side
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  and you want to help someone
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  and they say, no, no, no, I got it.
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  What?
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  It's a little hurtful of, like, what?
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  I thought you trusted me.
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  I thought we were better friends.
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  So I think that's a great look at it.
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  It is.
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  I very recently
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  had someone going through something
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  and I was like, wow.
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  First of all,
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  logically 100%
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  understand how overwhelming it is.
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  But as a human and as a friend,
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  I was a little sad and hurt.
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  Exactly what you said it right?
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  Like please let me do something for you.
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  Yeah.
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  And I think people
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  just don't think about it
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  from that point of view. Right.
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  And so we just kind of
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  have to normalize that a little bit,
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  which is hard.
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  and it's so hard
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  when you're already
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  in such a vulnerable spot with your life
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  being changed so dramatically.
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  Absolutely. Totally agree.
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  So when you started this,
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  what kind of growing pains
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  did you have getting this going?
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  Like what did you need help with?
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  Like what
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  what was it like to launch
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  something like this?
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  Well, let's be clear.
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  I had taken one coding class
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  in seventh grade,
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  so, I wasn't a I was not tech developer.
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  so had to, really learn
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  and trust developers.
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  And the coding that was happening on me
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  underneath side, I had to ask
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  for guidance on the business side.
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  Like how
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  what's the real business
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  model around this?
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  Like,
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  how are we going to get this
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  in the hands of patients
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  when they need it?
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  and that was a huge growing pain for me.
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  we launched
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  as a B2C so business to consumer site.
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  It's a very hard,
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  very expensive to get out there.
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  and it not
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  it wasn't super financially stable
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  and viable for a while
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  and had to talk to a lot of experts
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  and kind of change
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  the business
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  model around such that
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  we sell this software to health care
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  professionals and other providers
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  who want an extension of their brand
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  because they understand
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  how important it is to have those extra
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  services, available to their patients.
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  But but that was a really big learning
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  curve for me
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  and had to ask a lot of people
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  for help with all of that.
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  I ended up
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  being the first woman
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  in my state to raise venture capital
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  over a half $1 million,
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  and I had no idea how to do that.
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  So I had to learn a lot more.
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  Well, thank you.
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  but I had to learn a lot along the way
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  about how that works.
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  Can you. Imagine?
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  Because you have this great idea, but,
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  you know, it's
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  just like we were talking about before.
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  You can't be good at everything.
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  So trying to learn
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  how to be a business person
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  and how to be a finance person
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  when really your passion is this idea.
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  Like, yeah, that's that's overwhelming.
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  That's that's a big one.
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  two years ago
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  I decided to launch a podcast
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  and I had no idea how to do that.
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  and everyone's like, oh, it's so easy.
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  You just get the stuff and go.
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  And I was like,
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  so Megan,
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  you and I know that it's not really
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  how easy it is to just launch,
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  but you just
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  you just record stuff
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  and you put it out there that it's.
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  Just not going to be.
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  Let's talk. It'll be fine. Right.
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  So I had to
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  start asking people questions,
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  start leaning on people
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  who are already experts in the field.
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  And I think that, the lessons
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  that I have learned in building
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  my business are actually lessons
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  that I like
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  to try to remind people about
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  as they're going through
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  whatever their healthcare
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  or major life event is.
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  and actually, I'm going to totally
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  just give a plug for my team
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  and the expert knowledge that we have
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  because we've watched
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  people go through
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  such similar situations. Right.
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  So you can learn from someone
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  who has already had the same diagnosis
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  that you have had.
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  And okay, these are the tips.
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  These are the little nuances of things
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  that are going to be slightly different
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  because you have been diagnosed
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  with cancer in your eye
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  instead of breast cancer, right?
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  So it's not all going to be the same.
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  so I think that being able to,
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  you know, kind of say,
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  all right,
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  I gotta look at the people
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  who've already done a podcast.
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  It's not going to be
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  the same
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  as the people who have
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  launched something else anyway.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  I mean, it's
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  definitely you have to take
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  from all the experts out there
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  and try to mash it into something
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  that fits what you're doing,
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  and that's with anything
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  that you're doing in life, any hardship,
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  anything you're going through,
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  take what you can take
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  and then mash it together
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  and figure out
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  how to make it work for you.
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  Because even though
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  we're all going through different things,
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  we're also all very different people.
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  We are.
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  And now I'm going to completely backtrack
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  and say, and yet we all are
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  humans with some basic needs
• 15:14
  that are similar.
• 15:15
  And, the
• 15:17
  What Friends Do team
• 15:18
  has had the opportunity
• 15:18
  to help so many people.
• 15:20
  There are some really basic
• 15:22
  things that we're like,
• 15:22
  let's just start with this, okay?
• 15:25
  Let's start simple.
• 15:26
  Let's start with the
• 15:28
  like the basics of communication,
• 15:30
  looking at providing food,
• 15:32
  looking at providing transportation,
• 15:34
  and asking who else is in your
• 15:36
  in your household?
• 15:37
  Who needs support
• 15:38
  and or is there a caregiver
• 15:39
  who needs support?
• 15:40
  And then once we have
• 15:42
  those basics kind of down,
• 15:45
  now we can get into the nuances
• 15:47
  of your specific situation.
• 15:49
  I'm looking at other people
• 15:50
  who've gone through the same thing.
• 15:52
  So along that line,
• 15:53
  who signs up for this?
• 15:54
  Is it up to the patient
• 15:55
  to sign themself up?
• 15:56
  Can a friend kind of family member
• 15:58
  like who starts.
• 15:59
  This so anyone can start this?
• 16:02
  And we have seen everyone
• 16:05
  that you just mentioned start this.
• 16:07
  I will say the most successful
• 16:10
  support teams are usually started by,
• 16:15
  a sister
• 16:16
  or a best friend or a next door
• 16:19
  neighbor
• 16:19
  or someone who is very intimately aware
• 16:22
  of what's going on
• 16:24
  and someone who is able to
• 16:26
  look at you, Megan, and say,
• 16:27
  girlfriend, you need some help.
• 16:29
  I know you don't think you do right now,
• 16:31
  but let me just tell you what I see.
• 16:33
  And it's way easier for me as the best
• 16:37
  friend, the sister,
• 16:38
  the next door neighbor
• 16:39
  that you know, someone like that
• 16:41
  close to you to be able to say, okay,
• 16:44
  here's what Megan needs.
• 16:45
  Like, this is
• 16:46
  this is where people can really help
• 16:48
  right now.
• 16:49
  because of what we started
• 16:50
  talking about
• 16:51
  at the beginning, it's so hard.
• 16:53
  It's so awkward.
• 16:54
  If I ask for help,
• 16:56
  what if no one wants to do it?
• 16:57
  Is this a weird thing to ask for? But.
• 17:00
  But if I am the one who's like,
• 17:02
  okay, Megan needs this,
• 17:03
  we all need to step in.
• 17:05
  Who's going to do it?
• 17:06
  It just makes it a lot easier.
• 17:08
  Oh, without a doubt. Absolutely.
• 17:09
  I think that's huge.
• 17:10
  So all of that said,
• 17:12
  our software is actually set up
• 17:13
  in such a way that,
• 17:15
  we really encourage the patient
• 17:16
  to be actively involved in it.
• 17:19
  and if they have the
• 17:21
  capacity at the time,
• 17:22
  because one of the other things
• 17:24
  that's really important, in long
• 17:27
  term and short
• 17:28
  term is to be able to document
• 17:30
  what's going on.
• 17:31
  And while you might think you are never,
• 17:34
  ever going to forget this, you never,
• 17:36
  ever want to have to relive this.
• 17:38
  Or these are details
• 17:39
  that aren't necessarily
• 17:41
  needed to be remembered.
• 17:42
  time does things to people, right?
• 17:44
  You don't always remember,
• 17:46
  you don't think you're going
• 17:47
  to want to remember,
• 17:48
  but then at some point
• 17:49
  you might and, so there's there's a
• 17:52
  you and you don't have to go back.
• 17:54
  But should the opportunity
• 17:56
  present itself down the road
• 17:57
  that you want to go back and say, wait,
• 17:59
  how did this happen?
• 18:00
  Which day, which day did this happen?
• 18:02
  What was the release
• 18:03
  sequence of events
• 18:05
  in whatever was going on?
• 18:07
  so for that reason, it's sometimes
• 18:09
  nice for the patient to be involved
• 18:11
  in the sharing of their story.
• 18:13
  The other reason
• 18:14
  that's also nice for this patient
• 18:17
  to have the opportunity
• 18:18
  to share their story is,
• 18:19
  they get to control their story
• 18:21
  and they get to have
• 18:22
  the opportunity to say,
• 18:24
  this is what I want shared.
• 18:26
  This is what I feel comfortable sharing.
• 18:28
  And when you can put it up in one spot,
• 18:31
  we're not playing telephone, right?
• 18:33
  Remember when we all used
• 18:35
  to sit in a circle and play telephone
• 18:37
  and it just doesn't.
• 18:38
  It just doesn't work.
• 18:39
  so having that opportunity to,
• 18:42
  own your own story,
• 18:44
  I think is very healing as well.
• 18:47
  and owning who has the rights
• 18:49
  and privilege to receive your story.
• 18:53
  Right.
• 18:54
  so the way our software works,
• 18:56
  you don't have to have it on Facebook
• 18:57
  for everybody to see
• 18:58
  and share all the places.
• 18:59
  Oh, whatever social media
• 19:01
  platform of your choice,
• 19:02
  you can still do that.
• 19:03
  And I'm not saying you shouldn't.
• 19:05
  I think there's a lot of benefit
• 19:06
  to that as well.
• 19:07
  but I think there's a lot to be said in,
• 19:10
  especially when situations
• 19:12
  can often feel out of control.
• 19:15
  Having the gift of,
• 19:17
  controlling your message.
• 19:19
  Yeah, I agree,
• 19:20
  and having that sense of privacy
• 19:22
  too, of like,
• 19:23
  I want to share with these people,
• 19:24
  but maybe not everybody on Facebook,
• 19:27
  you know, or or.
• 19:28
  Yeah, this
• 19:28
  I want to share with everybody.
• 19:29
  You could kind of control
• 19:30
  which parts you want to put where.
• 19:32
  You can.
• 19:33
  And again
• 19:33
  it's sometimes
• 19:34
  nice to not have to go back
• 19:36
  through the entire
• 19:37
  Facebook feed to see what.
• 19:38
  Wait what what what where is it.
• 19:40
  I know there was something in here
• 19:41
  like it's all just in one spot
• 19:44
  which is sometimes helpful as well.
• 19:46
  Again,
• 19:47
  there are things in my life
• 19:49
  that I never ever thought
• 19:50
  I wanted to have to revisit
• 19:52
  and that I never, ever
• 19:53
  thought I would forget details of.
• 19:55
  And after time,
• 19:57
  I don't remember the details of that.
• 19:59
  How did that work?
• 20:00
  And like, you know, like,
• 20:01
  where was I for this?
• 20:03
  Who was there?
• 20:04
  How's this going down?
• 20:05
  And I do kind of like, want to know.
• 20:07
  I think also like
• 20:09
  when you're in the situation,
• 20:10
  you just do
• 20:11
  what you have to do to survive.
• 20:12
  And then when you get out of it
• 20:13
  on the other side,
• 20:14
  you look back and you say,
• 20:15
  how did I live through that?
• 20:16
  Like, that was so big. How did I do that?
• 20:19
  And you should be proud of it
• 20:21
  and be able to revisit that and say,
• 20:23
  hey, I did this.
• 20:25
  Well, that is exactly where I wanted
• 20:27
  to take the rest of this part of it.
• 20:29
  Is it? There's also celebration in there.
• 20:32
  There's also the opportunity for like,
• 20:34
  wow, look at the great days that I had.
• 20:38
  look at the great things that happened
• 20:41
  during whatever,
• 20:43
  you know, however things were happening.
• 20:45
  and having that documented
• 20:47
  is really special.
• 20:48
  And look at all the people
• 20:49
  that showed up for me
• 20:50
  and look at how strong I was.
• 20:52
  And at the time it didn't feel like it.
• 20:53
  But looking back,
• 20:54
  I did so much
• 20:56
  and all these people were there.
• 20:57
  Yeah, a huge to all.
• 20:58
  Those people were there for me.
• 20:59
  Yeah. That's amazing.
• 21:01
  Okay, so my next question is
• 21:03
  so we've told everyone what it is,
• 21:05
  how it works.
• 21:06
  So now they somebody wants to sign up.
• 21:08
  What do they do to start.
• 21:10
  So they go to what friends do.com
• 21:13
  and they click start a team and it,
• 21:16
  it guides you through with some pretty
• 21:18
  I like to use easy
• 21:20
  questions, in air quotes
• 21:22
  because in a non stressful time
• 21:24
  they're super easy questions.
• 21:26
  But we know that sometimes
• 21:28
  when you're overwhelmed
• 21:28
  it can be a little more overwhelming.
• 21:31
  But we're just we're asking
• 21:32
  for your name.
• 21:33
  We're asking for your email address.
• 21:35
  email address is important
• 21:36
  because that's your login for everything.
• 21:39
  we're asking you
• 21:39
  to find a photo to put on
• 21:41
  so that if your friends
• 21:42
  are searching for it,
• 21:43
  you know,
• 21:44
  this is how software
• 21:45
  and apps work, right?
• 21:47
  and then where it gets hard is
• 21:50
  what kind of help do you need?
• 21:51
  And, and that's where people
• 21:54
  get tripped up a lot.
• 21:55
  so I don't want them to feel overwhelmed
• 21:57
  by having to get it right the first time.
• 22:00
  Right?
• 22:00
  Just, tossing
• 22:01
  a few meals,
• 22:02
  put in a couple of important
• 22:04
  upcoming events. Right.
• 22:06
  This is the next doctor's appointment.
• 22:07
  This is when we're going to find out
• 22:09
  more information.
• 22:10
  The reason I love to put
• 22:11
  doctor's appointments
• 22:12
  on their dates to not like specifics,
• 22:16
  but to say, okay, the next doctor's
• 22:18
  appointment is next Wednesday afternoon.
• 22:20
  We have no new information until then.
• 22:22
  Thank you for asking, but please don't.
• 22:25
  Yeah, I can see where
• 22:26
  that would be very beneficial.
• 22:27
  Yeah.
• 22:28
  So and
• 22:28
  and then if you get in there
• 22:30
  and you get tripped up,
• 22:31
  I have a whole team of people
• 22:32
  who their job is to help support you
• 22:35
  through this.
• 22:36
  Everyone loves our work
• 22:39
  because we really are passionate
• 22:40
  about helping you.
• 22:41
  and helping you through these situations.
• 22:44
  and we've done it before, so
• 22:46
  we're happy to guide you.
• 22:48
  And because you can draw
• 22:49
  on that experience, I'm
• 22:50
  sure you can give some great examples
• 22:52
  that might get people's
• 22:54
  brain started thinking,
• 22:55
  oh yeah, you know,
• 22:56
  that would be a good idea.
• 22:57
  And then that made me think of this.
• 22:58
  And I'm sure that feedback
• 22:59
  is probably very beneficial.
• 23:01
  And I guess I go ahead.
• 23:03
  Oh no.
• 23:03
  Well, and we've got the questions
• 23:05
  and the prompts to ask you.
• 23:07
  and like I said, our new paper
• 23:08
  planner lets you kind of like
• 23:10
  look through all of those prompts
• 23:12
  on your own also,
• 23:14
  and lets you kind of take that with you
• 23:17
  as you are going to go
• 23:19
  sit next to your friend
• 23:21
  and say,
• 23:22
  okay, let's let's figure out
• 23:24
  your care plan.
• 23:25
  Yeah, I love that.
• 23:26
  And I love that you call it a team.
• 23:28
  But I feel like from the very minute
• 23:30
  you go on to the software
• 23:32
  and you get started, it's
• 23:33
  that mentality of you, we got this.
• 23:36
  We are a team now.
• 23:38
  I think that's the perfect word.
• 23:39
  Yeah, I love that okay.
• 23:40
  So now they've gone on.
• 23:42
  They've started their team then do they.
• 23:45
  How do they share it.
• 23:46
  And and get people involved.
• 23:48
  So there are a couple of options.
• 23:50
  There's a share button,
• 23:51
  that lets you copy the link
• 23:55
  so that you can send it in an email
• 23:56
  to a whole bunch of people.
• 23:57
  It lets you posted to social media
• 23:59
  if you want to.
• 24:01
  it lets you just,
• 24:03
  type in people's
• 24:04
  email addresses
• 24:05
  and they will receive
• 24:06
  an email from our system.
• 24:08
  I really think the easiest way
• 24:10
  is to copy the link
• 24:11
  and text it out
• 24:13
  to a whole bunch of people,
• 24:14
  and then they will join.
• 24:15
  They have to create their own username,
• 24:17
  to log in to, to do this.
• 24:19
  and that's for privacy reasons
• 24:21
  that we've found
• 24:22
  our users really prefer the opportunity
• 24:25
  to kind of know
• 24:26
  who's on their, their privacy settings
• 24:28
  so that, you know, you can have it
• 24:30
  so that the,
• 24:31
  the person who set the team up
• 24:33
  has to approve,
• 24:34
  who is on the team
• 24:35
  and who isn't on the team.
• 24:36
  or you can have it open
• 24:37
  so that anyone
• 24:38
  who puts their email address
• 24:39
  in can come in
• 24:40
  and be part of your support team there.
• 24:42
  That's really smart.
• 24:43
  And, so one other thing that, you know,
• 24:45
  if it is
• 24:46
  someone from your faith organization,
• 24:48
  someone from your workplace,
• 24:50
  someone who may not know
• 24:52
  every social circle
• 24:54
  that you're a part of.
• 24:55
  what we really like
• 24:56
  to encourage is to say, like,
• 24:58
  hey, Megan,
• 24:58
  who are your top three people? Right.
• 25:00
  And can they help us
• 25:02
  get the word out to all of the people
• 25:04
  and ask people to help
• 25:07
  and ask people to spread the word.
• 25:09
  Hey, can you make sure all the neighbors
• 25:11
  know,
• 25:11
  hey, can you make sure
• 25:13
  all of the family is included, right?
• 25:15
  Because you might not have access
• 25:17
  if you're
• 25:17
  if this isn't
• 25:18
  you personally going through it,
• 25:20
  you might not have access
• 25:22
  to all of those emails.
• 25:23
  I'd like to
• 25:24
  kind of bring up one other point,
• 25:26
  right now
• 25:26
  that I should have mentioned earlier
• 25:28
  about who sets this up,
• 25:30
  and I love it
• 25:31
  when the patient sets it up on their own.
• 25:33
  And one of the reasons
• 25:35
  that patients don't
• 25:36
  set it up on their own.
• 25:37
  And I like to challenge them,
• 25:39
  except not really,
• 25:40
  because they're going through
• 25:41
  enough, is that they are like,
• 25:42
  I don't think I have anybody
• 25:43
  who wants to help me.
• 25:44
  And, I usually like to start
• 25:48
  asking some questions
• 25:49
  like, okay,
• 25:50
  but maybe maybe you you don't, but it
• 25:53
  what do you do on the weekends?
• 25:55
  Are you part of any groups?
• 25:57
  Are you
• 25:58
  a part of any faith organizations?
• 26:00
  What about the people who you work with?
• 26:03
  What about your family?
• 26:04
  What about your extended family?
• 26:06
  And those are the other things
• 26:07
  that I think
• 26:08
  are really important for patients.
• 26:10
  And I'm using the word
• 26:11
  patients, very generically.
• 26:13
  So I hope that
• 26:14
  people are not offended by that.
• 26:16
  but people do
• 26:17
  usually love
• 26:18
  and care about others,
• 26:20
  and they're usually much stronger
• 26:22
  social support
• 26:23
  circles and networks
• 26:25
  than people are often
• 26:26
  really willing
• 26:28
  to necessarily admit at first.
• 26:30
  So when you're the person
• 26:32
  going through it and you're like, oh,
• 26:33
  no one would ever sign up for me,
• 26:35
  I doubt that.
• 26:36
  Yeah, I totally agree.
• 26:37
  And it
• 26:38
  so many people, like we said,
• 26:39
  we want to help that,
• 26:41
  you know,
• 26:41
  you might think, well,
• 26:42
  they barely know me,
• 26:42
  but you would be so surprised
• 26:45
  how much they do want to do.
• 26:46
  And, you know,
• 26:47
  it could grow into a friendship
• 26:48
  like you
• 26:49
  don't closed doors
• 26:50
  until you give it a shot.
• 26:52
  And you have no idea
• 26:54
  what other people have gone
• 26:55
  through, either.
• 26:55
  Through
• 26:56
  maybe they have gone
• 26:58
  through something similar,
• 27:00
  or maybe their best friend
• 27:01
  or their relative has gone
• 27:03
  through something similar.
• 27:04
  Also, and you have the opportunity
• 27:06
  to learn from that.
• 27:07
  Yeah. Or even just bond over it.
• 27:10
  Just bond over it.
• 27:11
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 27:12
  I think that
• 27:13
  there's just
• 27:13
  such opportunity for connection
• 27:16
  in these times.
• 27:17
  Yeah, I totally agree.
• 27:19
  So give us a little bit of like feedback.
• 27:22
  You've gotten either some like reviews
• 27:23
  or like stories that you love.
• 27:25
  Like, who is this helping?
• 27:27
  Like give us some,
• 27:28
  some insight into these people.
• 27:29
  Well, as I was thinking through
• 27:32
  about this specific podcast,
• 27:35
  we had the opportunity many years
• 27:38
  ago, and I've, I've received,
• 27:40
  clearance from the family
• 27:41
  to share information about this
• 27:43
  because their young daughter
• 27:45
  actually had, I cancer
• 27:47
  and, they had two boys at home still,
• 27:49
  they were traveling two plus hours
• 27:52
  to a different city to receive treatment.
• 27:55
  And when they used the site,
• 27:59
  the school
• 28:00
  was able to jump in
• 28:01
  and do so much to support the kids.
• 28:04
  And they had an organization space
• 28:06
  to do it,
• 28:07
  and everyone was updated
• 28:09
  and they were able to say,
• 28:10
  okay, leaves coming home
• 28:12
  today, we're going to make sure
• 28:13
  that her brothers feel
• 28:15
  so incredibly supported
• 28:17
  because she's been gone for so long.
• 28:20
  they could do special things
• 28:22
  to support the whole family through it.
• 28:24
  which I think
• 28:25
  is one of the really unique
• 28:27
  opportunities.
• 28:28
  And I don't want to, like,
• 28:30
  be all happy, glossy through all of this,
• 28:33
  but I think that
• 28:34
  they're just a lot of other ways
• 28:36
  that people can be supported.
• 28:37
  And and remembering
• 28:39
  that it's not just the person
• 28:41
  who is going through
• 28:43
  this, the situation, who's affected.
• 28:45
  and so being able to see specifically
• 28:48
  with this one family
• 28:50
  how much support they received
• 28:52
  for the other two boys
• 28:53
  while they were caring for their daughter
• 28:55
  who was going through treatment.
• 28:57
  it's that's huge.
• 28:58
  And that,
• 28:59
  I mean, those are the kind of stories
• 29:01
  that you just hear,
• 29:02
  and it just restores
• 29:04
  your faith in humanity
• 29:05
  that, you know,
• 29:06
  we are all in this together,
• 29:07
  and we do have each other.
• 29:09
  We do.
• 29:10
  And again,
• 29:11
  I started this off,
• 29:12
  like when you give people the chance
• 29:15
  to do something, they will. Yes.
• 29:17
  And they'll
• 29:18
  they'll feel honored
• 29:19
  that you let them in to do it. 100%.
• 29:23
  And they might surprise you.
• 29:24
  They might do a little extra
• 29:25
  than what you asked for,
• 29:26
  that you didn't even realize you needed,
• 29:27
  but you did.
• 29:29
  Well,
• 29:29
  I think that's one of the biggest things
• 29:32
  that, you know, I learn every week,
• 29:35
  and I've been doing this for ten years.
• 29:36
  But every week
• 29:37
  I see something new
• 29:39
  that people do for each other.
• 29:41
  that I'm like, oh, that's brilliant.
• 29:43
  I had no idea.
• 29:44
  We have one idea that came from a woman,
• 29:47
  and I share this one
• 29:48
  all the time from Mary,
• 29:51
  and she is a daily check in person.
• 29:53
  And now it's like
• 29:55
  an actual function on our website
• 29:57
  because I love it so much.
• 29:58
  She's like,
• 29:59
  oh, yeah,
• 30:00
  I like to be the person
• 30:01
  that's like, okay, I'm
• 30:02
  taking every Tuesday
• 30:03
  and I'm your person for the day.
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  So I'm going to text you
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  at seven in the morning
• 30:07
  and say, do you me
• 30:09
  come over and start your coffee,
• 30:10
  and then I'm going to text you
• 30:12
  in the middle of the morning
• 30:13
  to make sure you have your lunch covered.
• 30:15
  Do you need me to run any errands for you
• 30:17
  like I'm your person this day?
• 30:20
  So you just tell me
• 30:22
  because I got the day blocked off
• 30:23
  to run errands
• 30:24
  for you to come over and help
• 30:26
  to do all of the things.
• 30:29
  And I was like,
• 30:29
  well, that's a fabulous idea, you know?
• 30:32
  And then it's not a burden to anyone else
• 30:34
  because like, for me, I'd be like,
• 30:36
  oh no, I blocked my Tuesday off
• 30:38
  because I'm helping Megan today.
• 30:40
  So you you text me all day,
• 30:41
  you tell me what you need, girlfriend.
• 30:43
  I'm here,
• 30:43
  and then you don't feel
• 30:44
  like you're taking advantage
• 30:46
  because you know that
• 30:46
  they're there for you
• 30:47
  that day,
• 30:48
  and then no one's
• 30:48
  getting burnt out of like,
• 30:50
  well, they asked me to do stuff all week
• 30:51
  long, and I have my own family
• 30:53
  because you've set that
• 30:54
  boundary of Tuesdays my day and I.
• 30:56
  So I can I share a quick personal story.
• 30:59
  But this week,
• 31:00
  so your listeners have a general idea
• 31:03
  of what my businesses are at this point.
• 31:05
  And, a few years ago was a Friday night.
• 31:09
  My husband at the time was working late
• 31:12
  and out of state,
• 31:13
  and I needed to go to the store
• 31:15
  and get some food for my kids
• 31:16
  because we didn't have
• 31:17
  anything for dinner,
• 31:18
  and they were just barely old enough
• 31:20
  that I left them home by themselves.
• 31:22
  And I got to the store,
• 31:23
  and I was walking into the grocery,
• 31:25
  and a woman didn't see
• 31:26
  me, and I was hit by a car.
• 31:28
  Very low speed,
• 31:29
  low impact,
• 31:29
  but I still ended up with a broken wrist
• 31:32
  and a broken foot.
• 31:33
  Wow.
• 31:33
  And, I ended up with surgery
• 31:35
  a couple of days later.
• 31:37
  Again, I couldn't,
• 31:38
  I couldn't drive, I couldn't walk,
• 31:41
  I couldn't even get myself
• 31:43
  in and out of the shower alone.
• 31:45
  I couldn't
• 31:45
  get my coffee cup by myself because,
• 31:48
  you know, like
• 31:49
  it was
• 31:49
  it was either on crutches
• 31:51
  or wheeling myself places.
• 31:52
  And one hand was broken and,
• 31:54
  you know, like I couldn't do anything.
• 31:56
  And my mom and sister
• 31:57
  and best friend
• 31:58
  had to come and sit me down
• 32:00
  while I was sitting down.
• 32:01
  But they had to come
• 32:02
  and sit down with me.
• 32:03
  And they said,
• 32:04
  you are putting so much burden on us.
• 32:07
  It's not fair to us to be the only ones.
• 32:10
  But also can we
• 32:11
  look at your business
• 32:12
  like, let's, let's do this.
• 32:14
  But it was so hard for me to admit
• 32:16
  that I was going to need that help,
• 32:18
  but it also took me a few minutes
• 32:20
  to recognize the burden
• 32:22
  that I was placing unintentionally
• 32:25
  on my mom
• 32:26
  and my sister
• 32:27
  and my best friend
• 32:27
  for having to do everything else.
• 32:30
  And they love me
• 32:31
  and they care for me,
• 32:32
  and they still will.
• 32:33
  But there are so many other people
• 32:34
  who could help alleviate that.
• 32:37
  And then they had capacity
• 32:39
  to help with things
• 32:40
  that I wasn't comfortable
• 32:41
  with other people helping me.
• 32:42
  I think that's
• 32:43
  a huge important thing to note,
• 32:45
  too, is you can
• 32:46
  you can delegate
• 32:47
  those little things like guilt,
• 32:49
  maybe just a little thing
• 32:50
  so that those important private
• 32:52
  things like getting you in
• 32:53
  and out of the shower, can be saved
• 32:55
  for the people who you are
• 32:56
  that close to you
• 32:57
  without putting everything on them.
• 32:58
  And what I learned was, and again,
• 33:01
  this is maybe a little guilty TMI,
• 33:03
  but one of my best friends was like,
• 33:05
  don't make me cook for you,
• 33:07
  but I'll come change all your bandages
• 33:09
  and I'll get you in
• 33:09
  and out of the shower.
• 33:11
  She has a special needs daughter. She's.
• 33:13
  And she's been my best friend forever.
• 33:14
  She's like,
• 33:15
  I don't care about naked bodies.
• 33:16
  Let me just lift you out of the shower.
• 33:18
  I think, like she's like,
• 33:20
  but please let me do that
• 33:21
  so that I don't have to make you dinner.
• 33:22
  Yeah, that's
• 33:23
  just like what we talked about before.
• 33:24
  You got to do what
• 33:25
  you're comfortable doing,
• 33:26
  what you're good at doing,
• 33:28
  not what you hate doing.
• 33:29
  Don't sign up for something you hate
• 33:30
  because you feel. Like you have to.
• 33:32
  And then she didn't have to, like,
• 33:33
  spend all of her time driving my kids
• 33:35
  places or helping me get groceries,
• 33:37
  or do
• 33:37
  all of the other little things
• 33:39
  that still needed to happen.
• 33:40
  Like you just said,
• 33:41
  those could be delegated out
• 33:42
  to other people who want to help
• 33:44
  but don't have the space,
• 33:46
  the closest space to us
• 33:47
  to do those other things.
• 33:48
  Absolutely.
• 33:50
  So, what is there
• 33:51
  anything else that you want to add?
• 33:52
  Like anything
• 33:53
  that we haven't gone over yet?
• 33:54
  Well,
• 33:55
  I kind of want to shamelessly
• 33:56
  plug my podcast
• 33:58
  right now
• 33:58
  only because, the very first episode,
• 34:02
  I really dig into who's allowed to know
• 34:05
  about what's going on and talking about,
• 34:09
  kind of those levels of friends
• 34:11
  and who gets to know what
• 34:12
  and how close they get to come in to you
• 34:14
  as things are going
• 34:16
  like, as you're going through things.
• 34:17
  So my podcast is called Kitchen Chats
• 34:20
  with Aimee Can't Track.
• 34:22
  And the reason
• 34:22
  it's called kitchen chats
• 34:24
  is because when something major
• 34:26
  has happened in my life
• 34:28
  or my close friends lives,
• 34:30
  we gather in the kitchen
• 34:31
  and we sit down
• 34:32
  and we figure out what's next.
• 34:34
  And so that's what
• 34:35
  we're doing on my podcast.
• 34:37
  And so I would love the opportunity
• 34:39
  for listeners to learn something,
• 34:42
  take something away for either
• 34:45
  how they can receive help
• 34:46
  or how they can help
• 34:47
  someone else in the future. Definitely.
• 34:49
  And we'll link that in the show notes,
• 34:50
  because I think that is
• 34:52
  definitely something
• 34:53
  that all of our listeners
• 34:53
  should check out. Thanks.
• 34:55
  And my team is available.
• 34:57
  If people are like, well,
• 34:58
  our situation needs a little bit of help.
• 35:00
  Hey, that's our favorite.
• 35:02
  We'd love to.
• 35:02
  That's great.
• 35:03
  I love that so much.
• 35:05
  But let's pause here real quick.
• 35:06
  So Jamie, when you watch this
• 35:08
  cut here, did you,
• 35:10
  did you do like a coupon code
• 35:12
  for the planner or anything like that
• 35:13
  or like your promotion or do you want to?
• 35:15
  We can skip it or we can plug that too.
• 35:18
  If you want to kind of drive the how.
• 35:19
  Do I website.
• 35:20
  So I do a coupon code.
• 35:22
  I just have a I don't either.
• 35:24
  We can't.
• 35:24
  We want to
• 35:25
  I can't give them a link to the planner
• 35:28
  okay I have a coupon code though
• 35:29
  I'd love to give them a 10% discount.
• 35:31
  I just don't know how to do it.
• 35:33
  Let's record that with a tentative Jamie.
• 35:36
  Don't put it in
• 35:37
  unless we tell you
• 35:38
  we figured out the coupon code,
• 35:40
  and then if we don't figure it out,
• 35:42
  we'll we'll record a separate ending.
• 35:44
  We'll just kind of do, like, two,
• 35:45
  or we'll just do a little, coupon code
• 35:47
  and then we'll cut again
• 35:48
  and then we'll keep going.
• 35:49
  Okay. All right.
• 35:50
  So Jamie, we're starting again.
• 35:51
  Okay. Ready?
• 35:52
  Okay. Aimee.
• 35:52
  So tell me about your planner.
• 35:54
  The paper planner.
• 35:55
  You have a coupon code for our listeners.
• 35:57
  We do.
• 35:58
  so our planner is available
• 36:01
  for purchase on Amazon,
• 36:03
  and you can find it, via
• 36:06
  a link
• 36:07
  that will be available in this podcast.
• 36:09
  And we will use, a code for 10% off.
• 36:13
  And it is ten for all of your listeners
• 36:17
  to receive a 10% off of their,
• 36:20
  planner purchase.
• 36:21
  Oh, Aimee, thank you so much.
• 36:23
  That is such a wonderful thing
• 36:24
  to gift our community.
• 36:25
  And I know that so many people
• 36:26
  will take advantage of that,
• 36:27
  including me. paper.
• 36:29
  I need paper, so I love it.
• 36:31
  It's I am embarrassed to admit
• 36:33
  how many planners
• 36:34
  and notebooks are on my.
• 36:36
  I don't think I could count quickly
• 36:38
  enough on my desk right now.
• 36:39
  Yeah, that's me too.
• 36:41
  Paper and pens everywhere.
• 36:42
  Yes. Okay, okay. Jamie, cut here.
• 36:45
  And if we have the coupon code at that,
• 36:47
  if not, we'll pick back up here.
• 36:49
  Is there anything else
• 36:50
  that you want to go over,
• 36:50
  or should we wrap up?
• 36:51
  or we can just say that
• 36:53
  the planner is available on Amazon.
• 36:55
  Let's do that and then we'll wrap up.
• 36:57
  Yeah, definitely.
• 36:58
  And then we'll wrap up. It's okay.
• 36:59
  Yep. That's good.
• 37:00
  All right. So Jamie this is option two.
• 37:02
  If there's no coupon code okay.
• 37:03
  All right.
• 37:04
  So Aimee tell me about your paper planner
• 37:06
  that you have.
• 37:07
  Oh thank you.
• 37:08
  Our paper
• 37:08
  planner is walking people
• 37:10
  through essentially
• 37:12
  all of the things, plus more,
• 37:14
  than what we've discussed here.
• 37:16
  And it is available
• 37:17
  for purchase on Amazon.
• 37:18
  It is,
• 37:20
  what friends do all one word planner.
• 37:23
  And, I love the opportunity
• 37:25
  for people to have paper and pencil
• 37:28
  and pen and colored markers to go through
• 37:32
  and organize
• 37:33
  the things in life
• 37:35
  beyond what's provided
• 37:37
  by the medical system.
• 37:38
  Absolutely.
• 37:39
  I think that would be so beneficial
• 37:40
  to so many people in our community.
• 37:42
  So I encourage you all to go
• 37:43
  find this planner, too.
• 37:44
  I'm going to get one too,
• 37:45
  because people paper and pen.
• 37:47
  That's what I need.
• 37:47
  I have so many.
• 37:49
  Yes, notebooks and papers everywhere.
• 37:51
  yeah. So many. it's a problem.
• 37:54
  Yes, yes.
• 37:56
  Well, Aimee, thank
• 37:57
  you so much for being here with us today.
• 37:59
  I really appreciate your time.
• 38:00
  I know it's valuable
• 38:01
  and I love everything that you said,
• 38:03
  everything you've shared with us
• 38:05
  and I just really appreciate you
• 38:06
  for being here.
• 38:07
  Megan,
• 38:08
  thanks for all the work that you're doing
• 38:10
  and for allowing me to come in
• 38:12
  and share this information
• 38:13
  with your community.
• 38:14
  I really appreciate it.
• 38:15
  Absolutely,
• 38:16
  and hopefully we'll have you on again
• 38:17
  soon.
• 38:17
  with more to share,
• 38:18
  because this is a fascinating topic
• 38:20
  and I really love this for our community.
• 38:22
  I feel like so many people
• 38:23
  are just going to be so excited
• 38:25
  to find this tool.
• 38:26
  So, definitely,
• 38:27
  I'm sure won't be the last we see you.
• 38:29
  But it's a pleasure, I can't wait.
• 38:30
  Absolutely.
• 38:31
  And to everyone who's watching,
• 38:33
  thank you so much for tuning in.
• 38:34
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• 38:35
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• 38:37
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• 38:38
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• 38:39
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• 38:41
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• 38:43
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• 38:45
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• 38:46
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• 38:48
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• 38:49
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• 38:50
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• 38:52
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• 38:54
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• 38:56
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