Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / Dr. Gil Lederman, Host of Radiosurgery New York on WOR midnights and weekends Interview
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ah, the news. The Pope is going to go under
- 0:02Speaker 1: the knife for surgery. He's got a nodule, I guess,
- 0:05Speaker 1: on his lung. But to discuss that, it's Dr. Gil Lederman,
- 0:08Speaker 1: host of Radio Surgery New York on WOR at midnight
- 0:12Speaker 1: and on the weekends, and who wrote me a prescription
- 0:16Speaker 1: on Sunday that got my voice back or I wouldn't
- 0:18Speaker 1: be here this morning. Thank you. Thank you, Doc.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
- 0:23Speaker 1: All right. So what do you know about the Pope's
- 0:26Speaker 1: condition that has caused him to go under the knife?
- 0:30Speaker 2: Okay, so I know what you know, what you denounce,
- 0:32Speaker 2: but I'm trying to get behind the headlines and say
- 0:35Speaker 2: why the heck are they saying this and why the
- 0:38Speaker 2: heck would they put a man, the Pope, or anybody
- 0:40Speaker 2: through surgery for a nodule in the lung? There are
- 0:44Speaker 2: certainly options and many, many people, hundreds of thousands of
- 0:48Speaker 2: people have lung cancers and lung nodules. And in this
- 0:52Speaker 2: day and age, people that come to me generally don't
- 0:54Speaker 2: want to go through surgery. They don't want to have
- 0:56Speaker 2: their lung opened up. They don't want to have part
- 0:58Speaker 2: of their lung removed. And that's what they're talking about
- 1:01Speaker 2: for Pope Leo. So there are options for someone who's
- 1:05Speaker 2: got lung cancer or lung nodule. They didn't talk about that.
- 1:09Speaker 2: And obviously it's beyond the scope of their announcement. But
- 1:12Speaker 2: usually when a person comes here with a lung nodule
- 1:15Speaker 2: planning to have surgery, the first thing a surgeon wants
- 1:17Speaker 2: to do most commonly, not always, but most commonly is
- 1:20Speaker 2: to go in and cut out part of the lung
- 1:23Speaker 2: and put it in a box and check it pathologically.
- 1:27Speaker 2: But there's ways to see if it's cancer, first of all,
- 1:30Speaker 2: with a little needle. So most people I see would
- 1:32Speaker 2: rather have a little needle put in their lung and
- 1:35Speaker 2: know whether it's cancer or not before they have surgery.
- 1:39Speaker 2: We don't know if he had that. So he may
- 1:41Speaker 2: have already had a biopsy. Who knows? There's two ways
- 1:44Speaker 2: to get a biopsy. One is put the needle through
- 1:46Speaker 2: the skin. Another way is bronchoscopy through the airway. There's
- 1:50Speaker 2: another way for people who don't want to even do biopsies,
- 1:53Speaker 2: and there's many, many people who don't want to do
- 1:55Speaker 2: biopsies because if you do a biopsy, Like for the
- 1:58Speaker 2: Pope to do surgery, he's going to end up in
- 1:59Speaker 2: the ICU for a week. His lung will be totally collapsed.
- 2:03Speaker 2: He'll have a chest tube. It will be painful. And
- 2:06Speaker 2: he has to reinflate the lung and get the lung
- 2:08Speaker 2: back and then see what this is, unless there's been
- 2:11Speaker 2: a biopsy, unless he already knows. So there are options
- 2:14Speaker 2: for him, and we certainly hope that he would have
- 2:18Speaker 2: chosen surgery and not known about other things like radiosurgery
- 2:23Speaker 2: where you don't need cutting, you don't need bleeding. You
- 2:25Speaker 2: don't need hospitals. You don't need anesthesia. And you'd think
- 2:28Speaker 2: that someone like him would want to have an equally
- 2:31Speaker 2: effective treatment that's non-invasive, that doesn't remove part of his lung.
- 2:36Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really fascinating. That's great information. I was, while
- 2:39Speaker 3: you were talking, I looked it up too, and they
- 2:41Speaker 3: said that over half of all adults who get a
- 2:45Speaker 3: chest CT scan or x-ray, they find nodules in but
- 2:50Speaker 3: most of them don't need any operations. So from what
- 2:53Speaker 3: you just said a moment ago and that fact there,
- 2:58Speaker 3: do you believe there must be something else going on
- 3:02Speaker 3: for them to go in?
- 3:05Speaker 2: Well, look, you never know. I see so many patients,
- 3:08Speaker 2: and if a surgeon gets their hands on a patient,
- 3:10Speaker 2: and surgeons would probably love to have a high-profile patient
- 3:14Speaker 2: like the Pope on their resume, So it can elevate them.
- 3:18Speaker 2: On the other hand, it can go bad. He can
- 3:20Speaker 2: end up with a complication or shortness of breath or
- 3:24Speaker 2: not be able to breathe well for the rest of
- 3:25Speaker 2: his life or even worse. So sometimes cowboys are surgeons
- 3:30Speaker 2: and surgeons are cowboys and they want to get a
- 3:33Speaker 2: high-profile case. If the Pope Leo or anybody, a listener,
- 3:37Speaker 2: came here, we would get testing. We'd get cancer marker,
- 3:40Speaker 2: blood test. We'd get a PET scan. A PET scan
- 3:43Speaker 2: is a non-invasive way to see if a nodule is
- 3:45Speaker 2: suspicious for cancer. So in this day and age, there's many,
- 3:48Speaker 2: many non-invasive testing that can be done to evaluate whether
- 3:52Speaker 2: it's a cancer or not. And you're right, there's many
- 3:55Speaker 2: nodules in the lung, but most of them are not cancers.
- 3:58Speaker 2: He may have had a CT scan, let's say, six
- 4:00Speaker 2: months ago or a year ago, and it wasn't there.
- 4:03Speaker 2: So if it's a new nodule, that's different than if
- 4:05Speaker 2: it's a nodule that's been there for a long period
- 4:07Speaker 2: of time.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Dr. Lederman, if any of our listeners are interested in
- 4:11Speaker 1: coming to see you for a consultation, How can they
- 4:14Speaker 1: get in touch with you? Because obviously they can hear
- 4:17Speaker 1: your radio surgery program at nights here at WOR 710
- 4:22Speaker 1: at midnight and on the weekends. But if they'd like
- 4:25Speaker 1: to come in, how do they reach out to you?
- 4:29Speaker 2: Well, number one, they can do what you did, which
- 4:31Speaker 2: is send me an email. You can send me an
- 4:32Speaker 2: email at gil, G-I-L, at rsny.org. You did it yesterday.
- 4:37Speaker 2: As you said, I wouldn't have said anything, but you
- 4:39Speaker 2: kind of preempted me. So, Patients and listeners can do
- 4:42Speaker 2: the same thing Curtis Lewa does, gil at rsny.org. If
- 4:48Speaker 2: they don't want to do that, they can call us
- 4:50Speaker 2: at 212-CHOICES, 212-CHOICES.
- 4:54Speaker 1: All right, Dr.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Lederman, host of the Radio Surgery New York at midnight
- 4:58Speaker 3: and on the weekends and the best in the country
- 5:02Speaker 3: at it. Thank you so much, Dr. Lederman. Good to
- 5:04Speaker 3: talk to you.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Thank you. We wish the Pope a speedy recovery and
- 5:08Speaker 2: all your listeners much good health.