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Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese & The WNBA's Racial Feud · Kenny Wallace Media

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Angel Reese. Oh, here we go.
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Angel Reese is quickly becoming one of the most annoying
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athletes in sports. Did you see her yesterday crying
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about how popular Caitlyn Clark is?
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How about you try to set yourself apart on the court like
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Clark did, shooting from the logo and breaking every college
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record instead of just crying in the post game presser?
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She sucks. Cole, what's your take on that?
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Because I think you have a different take on Ames or Reese
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than most people go. Interesting.
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We have 4 pieces of audio that we can go through and you guys
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can that's. It for WNBA only four.
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Only four. Only four.
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We got a lot. Four pieces we usually have.
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Four pieces of We don't even have Cardinals audio.
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We have 4 pieces of WNBA audio. That's the first time it's ever
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been said in the history of Saint Louis Radio, and I love
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it. Wow, that's funny dude.
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OK, we got to set. So what's up?
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We got to set the stage here. What do we got?
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We got we got Stephen A Smith going and getting in a fight
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with all the people on his show about whether or not people
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actually care about the WNBA. We got Pat McAfee.
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Oh God. We got him.
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We got Angel Reese responding to Pat McAfee.
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Oh, wow. I.
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Didn't see that yet either. And then, well, I mean, that's
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what they're. Talking about, then we have Pat
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McAfee responding to Angel Reese's comments on Pat McAfee.
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OK, So let's just go in chronological order here.
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So we're going to start at the beginning, beginning of the day,
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I guess, because I guess it'd be first take is on 9 to 11 and
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this is a bit a little bit longer, but this is Stephen A
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Smith going back and forth with Monica Mcnutt.
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A lot of you may not know who that is unless you watch ESPN
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regularly, but she's kind of had an expanded role in their
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programming, in part because the WNBA has become more popular.
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Women's basketball has become more popular.
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I think she, I think she played at Georgetown.
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I may be wrong in saying that, but she was a college basketball
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player. And so with this new influx of
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women's basketball being more and more of a topic, she'd
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become more and more of a, a persona, if you will.
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And so this is the really what started it out at the beginning
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of the day yesterday on ESPN. We're talking about them
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maximizing their great potential, and because we bring
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that up and talk about what potentially might get in their
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way, which we do to men all the time now, we got to sit up here
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and watch every syllable. I resent that and I'll leave it
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all. Right, So let me.
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So let me. I know we got to go to break.
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I know we got to break. Welcome to the world's of being
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a woman, Stephen A and how you have to dance about your word
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choice and you have to please everybody and anybody as you
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navigate your being. We are talking about the world's
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greatest about being a black man.
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So, so this is what I'm saying to y'all though.
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And I know we got to go to break and we didn't necessarily go
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there and maybe we should. There are so many layers in this
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conversation around the way that is being discussed When you
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right, No, no. And yes, Shannon, I know y'all
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are going to say, you know, and Steven, I know you're going to
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you. You just shared that you talked
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about the on your program too. You guys may not have said
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everybody, but the prevailing sentiment for folks that are
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just joining the WNBA and following women's sports is
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unfair to the women of this league.
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To your point, who have laid the groundwork for Caitlin Clark to
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come in and now take it to the next level.
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That's all I'm saying in these conversations.
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Kennedy Carters behavior is not indicative of the entire league.
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We are still talking about competition where you are
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allowed to get a little extra elbow and if you are competing
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and you do it within the parameters of the game, the game
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is physical. Caitlin is helping to grow the
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league, these women understand that, but she cannot be babied
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as a rookie. That's all I'm at.
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Who talks about The Who talks about the WNBA?
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Who talks about women? Who talk about women's sports?
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More. More than the more than first
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take. Stephen A, respectfully with
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your platform, you could have been doing this three years ago
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if you wanted to. Ohh.
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Gotcha. Wow.
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Alright, we gotta go you guys. Did You Know?
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You're my God, but. Who does more?
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I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you.
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Don't do that. I'm talking to you about the
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power. That you have, OK.
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I'm talking to you. OK.
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You, my God, but I'm talking to you guys, guys.
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Guys, guys, I really. Appreciate my girl, would you my
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girl, You, my girl. You my girl, Steven.
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At three years ago, you were not talking about the W at this
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level. Don't do that, guys, guys.
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Guys, guys, guys, guys, nobody. Was Monica.
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You making Steven A? Poor Monica.
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Monica. You are making Steven me do my
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job. Please.
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We've gone for get her. Hi.
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So there you go. Who's done more for women's
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sports than me? Stephen A Smith.
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Who has done more for women? When I talk about women's
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sports, I do so much for them. Man, that's funny, dude.
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Yeah, I'm sorry. That's funny to me.
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Yeah, so there was A and then you're.
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My guy, though, you're my guy. You're my girl, you're my guy.
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I like how Shannon chimed in there at the end.
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He's like, you're making his point.
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None of us were talking about this, but so that was kind of
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the powder keg, I think they call it.
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And so that that's how. So let's hear Angel.
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And this is where Cole, when I came in this morning, I kind of
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said we. Gotta hear Pat McAfee before we
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hear Angel 'cause he's gonna lead into that.
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We. Need at least 10 clips.
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Yeah, you got any more? You know what tomorrow no audio
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you to it on the. Show no no, no, it's I like this
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I'm. Sure you do 100.
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Percent. I do.
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Charlie's the one. Chirping.
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No, I like it. All right.
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And so the show right after that, the hour right after that,
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probably. Second take.
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Yeah, was three was Pat McAfee, and he let his show with an
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entire PowerPoint explaining how Caitlin Clark is the star of the
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WNBA. And people are distracting by
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saying, no, it's this rookie class.
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It's it's the entire rookie class.
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They're saying no, it's actually Caitlin Clark.
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And he had some choice language. Maybe came on brink.
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That I think she's the Stanford bombshell that one of our Texas
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were talking about recently. She does it.
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But here's what he had to say regarding Caitlin Clark, because
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that's all ESPN talked about yesterday.
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I think we're all learning the WNBA.
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That's old school football. That is old school football.
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But I would like the media people that continue to say this
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rookie class, this rookie class, this rookie class, not just call
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it for what it is. There's one white bitch for the
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Indiana team who is a superstar. And is it because she stayed in
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Iowa, put an entire state on her back, took a program from
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nothing to a multiple year success story?
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Is it because she would go on to break the entire points records
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in the history of the NC double? Not just the women's record by
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Kelsey Plum shout out, but also Pistol Pete Maravich's the dudes
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record as well. Is there a chance that people
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just enjoy watching her play basketball because how
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electrifying she is? What she did she stood for, how
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she went about going, what she went for?
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Maybe. But instead we have to hear
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people say that we only like her because she's white and she's
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the only popular because the rest of the rookie class is
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doing what they're doing. Well, that's a bunch of Bulls,
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and we think the WNBA, more specifically their refs, need to
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stop trying to screw her over at every single turn.
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Wow, the white biatch. Dang Dang Dang Dang.
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But he said it as a joke, correct?
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Yeah. That was not the overarching
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point, I'd say that. Was jokey poo.
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But somebody didn't take it. Although I think, I think that I
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get it. I think, I think you can say
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that and it's it's not right, but you can say that as a
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comedian on ESPN. There's kind of different rules.
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But this goes back to your whole point of if we're all trying to
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be funny, then aren't we just doing the same thing as
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comedians but they get a pass and we don't because they're
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funnier? Cole.
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No, I'm disagreeing with myself. There you go, Cole.
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I'm just telling you like. He's not used to.
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That it just lands. No, it just lands.
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It just lands differently. And it's not, it's not right,
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it's not fair. But otherwise he wouldn't
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apologize. If he was doing that as a stand
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up act, you never would apologize.
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But it's because you're the worldwide leader.
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You're owned by freaking Disney. You know, did he actually
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apologize because he wanted to or was he forced to?
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I think probably because just he, he felt the pressure, yeah,
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forced. To I don't know that's what
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well. Forced to by who?
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No, by the pressure. OK, well Force 2 implies that
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your bosses came to you and said apologize.
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Maybe they did, too. He could have said, no, I'm not,
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and he probably would have been OK, But he probably just caved
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in and said, yeah, the pressure. He's got other people ripping
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them, too, about this. And so now the boss has come
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down, he's probably like, yeah, I might.
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As well. Just no.
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He likes Caitlin though. I think I agree.
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That's where I also, because I think Pat McAfee is a really
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good dude, honestly. And here's what happens.
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We talk about this all the time on Twitter.
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You make a joke that you're making for your followers, they
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get your sense of humor, Then the whole peanut gallery comes
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in and they don't realize you're making a joke.
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So and, and by the way, I bring this up all the time.
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That's why Twitter is annoying to me.
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You're trying to have fun and be sarcastic, but then you end up
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with half your mentions are are idiots who don't understand the
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context of what you're saying. So if I'm Pat McAfee, I also now
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think, oh, people aren't even realizing I'm making a joke.
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They now think I'm this misogynist piece of.
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Crap, that's why. Part of that too is explaining
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like and you can't even do it because you have to watch the
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show to understand his sense of humor.
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But now people think he's actually crapping on her when
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he's not. He's doing the opposite.
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So you feel the need. He did apologize, but also I
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would understand why you'd you'd need to explain what you're
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actually. Who'd he apologize to?
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Caitlin. Yes, I think he put it out there
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on Twitter. I read it yesterday.
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Now, it was kind of a lengthier apology than I wish it were.
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And I wish he would have just texted, which he did.
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He said that he texted her and like, she's in Indianapolis and
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so is Pat and she's been on this show multiple times.
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So she probably likes they know each other.
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And the the greatest irony of it all is him calling her a white
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biatch is him kind of taking on the persona in that moment of
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the other people who are Caitlin haters and he's denouncing them.
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So the 100%, I agree with Charlie on that.
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Show's over, the show's over. Here we go.
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This is 590. The fan.
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But no, we're back. We're back, folks.
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We're back. Welcome into Hot Tag Central
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here on a Tuesday morning. But no, I also think that when
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the peanut gallery, as you said, kind of takes over, they can
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kind of cloud the judgment of Caitlin and how she may
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interpret it. And so Pat's probably like,
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well, this all right, this didn't go how I thought it was
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going to go. And I wish he.
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He was getting rocked. I wish he didn't even announce
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his apology because I wish he would have just texted her.
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And then if he were like, why don't you apologize?
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He'd be like, I did. And they'd be like, well, why
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don't we know about it so you don't need to.
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It's like, I think, and they're going to be like Caitlin, did he
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apologize? She'll say yes.
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It's like, it's like, why do I need to run my apology to her
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through you? Because you got to Well, because
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he probably wants to disagree it over with.
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And by the way, I agree with what you said, which is why I
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was disagreeing with myself. But it is true over the years,
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the way you talk, for example, I would say totally different
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things on the radio than I would on Fox 2.
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Totally different. Thank you, Dave.
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Totally different language, totally different conversations.
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Topics that you would never broach on TV, you would on the
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radio. Sarcastic language and
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borderline, you know, not swearing, but the things you can
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say on on radio that are allowed, I would never say on
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TV. There's different kind of radio
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too, like the stuff I say on here, like I'm not going to dip
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into you, you know, you're on with curbs or whatever the case
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is. Like no way, no way.
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There's a balance to it on 590. Let's.
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Go maybe? Pray for all let's.
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Go. That's all right.
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It's also the, the format because we have long form stuff.
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So if we talk for three hours, it's a lot different than you
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talk for 5 minutes and where if you step in it, you don't have
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that much time to recover and show people.
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It's like, no that. Well, I was trying to be funny.
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You could still throw in some risque things during that 5
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minutes. Too, if we were doing a Rams
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pregame show and we had 6 minutes to talk about a topic
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and you're trying to make a funny analogy, the funny analogy
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I would make on the radio would be much more risque than the one
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I would make on TV. There it is.
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And that's why I think Pat McAfee long term, I mean, if
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they let him be himself, it works.
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But he's not. He's not a corporate guy.
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He doesn't fit the corporate mole.
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Like, he's probably better off on his own.
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Well, so I'm saying. But everything about his show,
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it's more of a funny podcast. Yeah.
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So what did Angel Reese say? OK, so.
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And I need to get your opinion because you stole.
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Yeah. You said you agreed with
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everything she said. When I walked in here, this
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almost. And I brought up Angel Reese and
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I go, what do you think? You.
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Oh, you go. I agree with everything she
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said. But you said almost.
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OK, let's look. There may be one thing that I'd
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take back now. Just to be clear, she may not
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have been responding directly to in to, uh, Pat McAfee, but we
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just played the clip of Pat McAfee where he's saying people
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are trying to take the attention away from Caitlin Clark and make
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it a bigger deal about the general population of the rookie
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class. But he was saying, no, no, no,
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no, you got to cut it out. Let's be honest with ourselves.
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Caitlin's a star. And then Angel talking about
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those same points, just in a little bit of a different
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direction. It all started from the national
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championship game. And I've been dealing with this
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for two years now and understanding like, yeah,
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negative things have probably been said about me.
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But honestly, I'll take that because look where women's
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basketball is. People are talking about women's
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basketball, but you never would think that we talked about
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women's basketball. People are pulling up to games.
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We got celebrities coming to games sold out Arena is like
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just because of one single game. And just looking at that, like
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I'll take that role, I'll take the bad guy role and I'll
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continue to take that on and be that for the for my teammates.
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And if I want to be that, and I know I'll go down to history,
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I'll look back in 20 years and be like, yeah, the reason why we
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watching women's basketball is not just because of one person,
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It's because of me too. And I want y'all to realize
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that. I hate her so much.
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Yeah, I she's her. Personality sucks, she sucks.
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But wait a second. Wait, wait.
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You just said you but OK. I thought you said you love her.
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She said all this attention so you agree you want to.
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Date her. Well, yeah, he does.
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She's. Pretty looking, no?
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She looks whatever. I'll take Cameron.
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What? I'll take Cameron.
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Brain. No, no, no.
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OK, but she's good looking. If I have my choice.
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But she did say this is all because of one game.
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I agree with that. You do dude that one game but
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but the other games too. Last year she was ever all the
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attention was on Caitlin cartoon, but it's but it started
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last the the year 2 years ago. I.
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Mean if you're talking about two 2 championships ago, so 2023.
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It started whenever they went toe to toe together.
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I agree with that. And then all the momentum but
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all. The when she antagonized her
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walking around the floor following her going to John Cena
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I. Remember we were talking about
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that the day that happened. Charlie Tuna said that the
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Monday after on the radio, Charlie Tuna said people are
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going to go to the ballot polls in 2024 in the presidential
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election, thinking of what took place, in which side they were
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on, and that's the true vote. Well, if you don't like either,
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if you don't like either candidate.
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So does that mean, hold on, does that mean white people have to
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vote for Caitlin Clark and black people have to vote for Angel?
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Reese Yes, even though neither of them are eligible because
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they're not 35 years old. I do.
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Think it's funny though with like.
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I have no idea that, by the way, I have zero clue.
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Look who's back at all. By the way.
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Kramer, Michael Richards. But I have zero idea what
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Caitlin Clark's politics are. But I think people just assume
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because she's white and she went to Iowa that she's conservative.
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But she might be. I have no idea.
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She's quiet, OK, you would think, but also like.
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I would think, I would think most WNBA players are probably
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Democrats and I don't care. I just, I just think it's funny.
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Like I have no clue what her politics are.
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But, but, but society has lined this up along racial lines,
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which is why I've said all along that I find this so hilarious,
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funny and fascinating because even Angel Reese back in the
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day, her coach was the most conservative coach.
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Like, people did not. Yeah, Everybody who tries to
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politicize everything and all these cable news networks try to
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do that. Their heads were exploding.
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The national anthem. Everything with Ohio.
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How do I think, who do I root for?
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I have to root for. Oh my gosh.
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Wait, she's black, but her coach is conservative.
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Oh my God. It's great, it's hilarious.
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Hey, just ask them. I'm gonna ask you then.
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OK, so if Caitlin Clark was out of the picture and it was just
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Angel Reese playing and she was doing her thing, would they get
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it? Would the WB, Would we even be
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talking? Okay, well if Caitlin Clark was
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in there doing her thing and Andrew Reese wasn't doing her
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thing, would the WBA be where it's at right now just because
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of Caitlin Clark and not Angel Reese?
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Not where it's at right now. I think it would be if.
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She's throwing breeze from the from half court.
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She was doing crazy stuff. She's breaking all the records.
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If Andrew Reese wasn't involved, hold on, She they'd still it
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would still be a big. Take It takes two to tango.
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That rivalry stoked the fire that lasted an entire.
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Year by the way. So here's where I I didn't
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listen to everything Angel Reese said.
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After 5 WMB clips my mind starts to go I'm just joking.
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That was a joke. That was a joke.
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I was listening if if Angel Reese is making the point that
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it's 5050, I don't agree with her at all.
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It's not 5050. It's not Caitlin Clark 50 and
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you 50. But it might be Caitlin Clark
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7075 and Angel Reese 2530. And I say that because dude,
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Jill Biden commented on this because of the Angel Reese,
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Caitlin Clark, you can't see me. I mean, the the presidency was
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talking about this. Let's invite both of them.
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That was dumb, by the way. But my point is that doesn't.
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Happen. Sure.
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Yeah. I'm sure he stays up late and
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watches all the games. Of the Flyers.
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Of all the different teams. Oh my God, but.
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What I'm saying is that doesn't happen if there isn't the you
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can't see me. Let's be real.
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The whole racial aspect of it, which we amplify in this
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country. So I agree with with that.
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Look, every great story needs heroes and villains and, and,
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and some people think Angel Reese is the hero, which is
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fine. I don't care.
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I'm just saying, OK, but what I'm saying is most people think
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that Caitlin Clark is the hero, but Angel Reese is a really
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captivating villain. And that's what makes a good
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movie. That's what makes a good story.
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But The thing is, you, you have a ton of villains now.
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The other chick that no one knew about, that pusher down, now
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she's the villain. Everybody could be a villain
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against Caitlin Clark. But the fact that and the fact I
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even know this is insane. But the fact that Angel Reese
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jumped off the bench? To.
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Clap the second Caitlin Clark got body checked.
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That shows you right there. By the way, this is all good for
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the sport. Great for the sport.
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And people are like, I put this on Twitter the other day and
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people are like I said, I said if 'cause I was comparing to
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NASCAR. Saint Louis Cicadas.
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No, but I was saying, look, NASCAR is so popular now because
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of the racing but also the fights.
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People love the fights. I'm like, if we all agree that
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NASCAR is more popular and it's good for business because of the
19:04
fights, why is not the same people like, oh, this is
19:06
terrible for the WNBA. No, this is the greatest thing
19:09
that's ever happened in the history of the WNBA because
19:12
people care. Then people are commenting, oh,
19:15
but there's racial aspects. There has been racial aspects in
19:18
sports since the beginning of time.
19:20
Every sport. Oh, you don't think when Bubba
19:22
Wallace pushes Kyle Larson, who used the N word a couple years
19:26
preview previously, you don't think there's racial elements
19:29
that you don't think there's racial elements?
19:31
Anytime you know the one of 10 black hockey players, something
19:35
happens with a white player, you don't think racial lines are
19:37
brought. Same with baseball.
19:40
Josh Donaldson and. Baseball with Latino players and
19:44
people say that they're flamboyant, they don't respect
19:46
the game and oh, the hard white boy from Alabama beans them.
19:51
I don't think that's racial, OK. Or when there's a bat flip from
19:54
Acuna or Tim Anderson, you don't think people bring race into
19:57
that? It happens all the time.
19:58
So are Angel Reese's numbers. What are they compared to?
20:02
You think we know this? I'm no well, they.
20:04
Don't know this on ESPN. Well, that's some point I'm
20:06
trying to make. Well, I mean, maybe, maybe
20:08
Monica, people are watching. She's been watching are.
20:10
People watching Angel Reese's team play, you know.
20:13
Lots of the same, I agree I. I, you know, she's like, we're
20:16
selling out every building I watch.
20:17
I saw some highlights. You weren't selling out in the
20:19
building. Somebody brought up basically
20:21
I'll. I'll tell you this, but and, and
20:24
by the way, don't don't mistake these two things.
20:26
Just because I think Angel Reese is correct doesn't mean I like
20:29
that sound bite. I think arrogance is the most
20:31
ugliest qualities that people can have.
20:34
If you are going around, walking around telling everybody how
20:37
great you are and how important you are, who wants to sit and
20:39
listen to you talk about how awesome you are?
20:41
No. One, I want to hear about your
20:42
problems. Yeah.
20:43
I want to see how bad I want to talk.
20:45
Be self deprecating. I'll listen, yeah.
20:47
You know, humanize yourself. That's what people.
20:50
Like is though, hold on. When she cried after the game,
20:54
she lost and said I've been sexualized.
20:56
Everybody crushed her. She showed her human side and
21:00
everybody's like, no, you were making money off sport's real,
21:02
OK? Why was it not?
21:03
Real because look at her Instagram feed, man.
21:05
No, no one else is hacking her account and posting that crap.
21:09
She's she's posing herself. She'll cry, then she posts more.
21:13
Get out of here but. She can't win, though.
21:16
She shows her human side, you know, like she could have
21:17
wanted. She shows her real side.
21:19
You say she's too arrogant. That's what's she supposed to
21:21
do. Cole, why don't you play another
21:22
clip? I have one more true though.
21:25
We don't have to play it. We don't have to play it.
21:28
No, I actually like the clips. I'm joking.
21:29
Yeah, Because really, I don't follow it this closely.
21:32
No. So the fact that I'm hearing it,
21:34
it's interesting. I mean, we're doing 30 minutes
21:36
on WMD. I might even post this on
21:38
YouTube. It might do well.
21:39
Probably not, but we'll see. It might.
21:42
It could. You know the only.
21:43
Thing that I do not agree with, and there are people in the
21:47
media who have been, you know, that the people have been taking
21:49
her side in this little feud. But the whole thing where I'm
21:54
paraphrasing at this point is we played my millions of clips so
21:57
long ago because we've been talking about it.
21:58
But where? Whenever she's talking about,
22:00
well, if you want me to be the villain, I guess I'll be the
22:02
villain. No, she assumed that role
22:04
herself. Course, nobody was talking about
22:06
Angel Reese all year long her junior year, until she was
22:11
following Kaitlyn Clark around, antagonizing her and making a
22:14
big show of it, and then having a 48 hour social media parade
22:19
for herself after she won the championship.
22:21
So she assumed this villain role herself.
22:24
I don't think people played placed it on her and then
22:27
obviously, yes, it did kind of avalanche and so it now we're
22:31
all in on it too. But she initiated this and she's
22:36
kind of passing the buck. Well, if everyone wants me to be
22:38
the villain, I guess that's what I am now.
22:40
No, she initiated that. I agree.
22:42
But the part about it all started with the national
22:46
championship. Yes, at least for me and a lot
22:49
of people who I talk, you're right.
22:51
Courts with in general I agree with.
22:53
It started with the national championship and it wasn't just
22:55
Caitlin Clark because Caitlin Clark was a great basketball
22:59
player that entire year and she was kind of a cute story.
23:01
It exploded when Angel Reese came into the mix and and there
23:06
have been some points where Angel Reese has been more
23:09
interesting than Caitlin Clark. She just has.
23:11
She's not better and I would never accuse her of being a
23:14
better basketball player than Caitlin Clark.
23:15
But everything that Charlie said about the racial elements,
23:18
that's absolutely at play. And we don't have to act like
23:20
it's not just because it's a touchy subject.
23:22
It absolutely is. And it's more interesting
23:24
because of it. And we will break this down with
23:26
tuna tomorrow, by the way. He already texted me yesterday
23:29
he wants to like. I say this, I say this with
23:31
love. Caitlin Clark is not
23:33
interesting. Yes.
23:35
Am I wrong? She's.
23:35
Just she's just amazingly good. What are you saying?
23:39
Cam I? Didn't say any.
23:40
I didn't. Say anything?
23:41
Oh, interesting. You're talking.
23:42
I wish we were on YouTube right now.
23:44
We had your. I wish we agree with.
23:46
I wish we had John Boy. You said she looks like Mel
23:48
Gibson. I easy Antonio Brown.
23:51
AB said that and I kind of know now he's like comparing her to a
23:54
couple. Of other guys.
23:55
And I'm like. The guy from Special Victims
23:59
Unit, yes. What I'm saying though, is I
24:01
don't think Caitlin Clark. Caitlin Clark is not this
24:04
interesting person that has interesting takes.
24:07
And that's fine. She's an amazing basketball
24:09
player. But Angel Reese is actually more
24:11
interesting off the court for me.
24:13
She, not I. I have to give her credit for
24:15
this and I can't stand Angel Reese because she is so arrogant
24:19
and full of herself. It drives me nuts.
24:20
But Angel Reese took Caitlin Clark to a level that Caitlin
24:23
Clark could not have gone herself popularity wise.
24:26
She didn't make her a better basketball player.
24:28
She's always going to be a great basketball player.
24:30
Made it more interesting to to to talk about.
24:32
But and by the way, and. But Angel Reese, she won the
24:36
championship, you know Caitlin Clark did not.
24:39
Yeah, by the true, 100% true. Also, the Angel Reese is also
24:44
kind of at the forefront of this whole like NBA players are sexy
24:47
or WNBA players are sexy now. Why'd you like, hesitate so much
24:51
to say that as if it was to get you in trouble?
24:53
She's OK with that. Well, because they I don't want
24:57
to. Cam Cam scale is very very
25:02
strict like I. Think Caitlin Clark idea I
25:06
think. Caitlin Clarke Attractive.
25:09
Games like I'm a big Cameron bring fan Caitlin Clark.
25:11
She. I'm serious.
25:13
I'm serious virtue signaling. No, I'm not.
25:15
Oh, yeah, you are. No, I'm not.
25:16
No, No, you are. I'm really not.
25:17
No, you are. No, I've actually seen pictures
25:20
of her where they show her with her boyfriend.
25:22
You're lying. OK, but I'm not saying she's
25:24
some superstar model you're comparing.
25:27
You're comparing her to like, Kate Upton.
25:31
I'm just saying I'm being. Serious.
25:34
Why would I? Why would I?
25:35
Why would I lie? I think.
25:36
I'm not saying she's the best looking woman WMA.
25:39
I think she has her days where she's all right.
25:41
I mean, I'm not. Serious Who's the hottest?
25:43
Who's the hottest NBA? Has her days that she's all
25:46
right. There it is.
25:47
Why? Does this matter?
25:48
She does. She I'm.
25:49
I'm serious. She does.
25:50
Why does this good? That's a good question, Caitlyn.
25:52
Why? Is he's not unattractive.
25:54
That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying.
25:58
I mean, she's no camera break. OK, that's different, I know.
26:02
I'm I'm doing that for listen to Cam.
26:03
I'm doing that for Cam's sake cause.
26:05
Everybody right now listening to this, I wish you could see Cam's
26:08
face. I wish you could see what he's
26:11
what he's mouthing with his with his lips.
26:15
You know, I'm just saying. I'm being honest.
26:18
He's saying 3 words. Why do you think?
26:19
OK, the second word is not. The third word is hot.
26:22
But Cam, if you ask me what is and it doesn't matter, but if
26:26
you ask me is so and so attractive, I would say yes, no,
26:30
why would it? I'm not.
26:31
Why do you think you think I'm lying like you think?
26:33
Virtue signaling. What's up baby?
26:36
Why I don't? Because.
26:37
Just disapprove that you're correct.
26:39
Name one ugly WNBA player. Dude, I'm sure there's a lot of
26:42
these. I don't know the names of any of
26:45
the players. Don't answer that question, Good
26:48
God. Dude, there are ugly people.
26:51
There are. Ugly.
26:52
There are ugly dudes, there are ugly women.
26:55
There are. We have to include trans people.
26:56
There are ugly trans people, OK, there are ugly people.
26:59
What percentage of of the world do you think is ugly?
27:02
Don't you think at least? I would say don't.
27:04
You think at least 30%? Thirty.
27:06
Or more, I'd say 60. OK, but there's a difference.
27:09
More than that. But ugly usually to me means
27:12
your face. It's a combination.
27:17
Of also your body good. Face your Your body looks
27:19
mutated here. You know it.
27:21
It sets you back. Then there's what I mean.
27:23
Butter faces I also. With good body this gets into
27:26
the Antonio Brown thing. I do feel bad for Kaylin Clark
27:29
because dude, people are so mean, but people are so mean to
27:32
her. I get it dude, she has millions
27:34
of dollars but she still goes to Twitter and she sees people with
27:38
5 million subscribers comparing her to dudes.
27:42
It's so cuddle. It's just it's me.
27:46
I know it's AB and then he's got his followers.
27:50
He's crazy. He's.
27:50
Also giving love to some local ladies.
27:53
Yes, he is. Yes, he is he.
27:55
Finds her. Oh, I did.
27:56
He's also getting chirped by a lot of people too.
27:59
You broke ass. Hold on, that's what they're
28:01
saying. I think AB is funny and I think
28:03
even the even the tweets that I shouldn't laugh at, I clearly
28:07
do. But still like I just think like
28:10
what he's talking about. Kaitlyn Clarke, pubic hair.
28:12
Don't like that? Come on, I know I don't like
28:14
that. And there's a good example
28:15
that's something I would not have brought up on Fox 2.
28:17
There it is. You can talk about on the
28:18
radius. To me there needs to be a line.
28:21
When he does compare her to other guys and there is.
28:23
That's just mean, dude. It's, so it is mean.
28:26
I see. For girls, like I understand
28:27
you're supposed to say that. I understand.
28:29
Oh, women are equal. OK, I get that they are.
28:32
No. No.
28:33
That's so no, no. Listen, listen, I want them to
28:36
make the same amount of money and all that.
28:38
But my point is, I still think there can be some chivalry of
28:40
like when you're just crapping on women and children.
28:43
Like that's not tough. No, I, I know to me, if you're
28:46
just always ripping on women, OK, they're equal.
28:48
I get it. But still, like if you're going
28:49
out of your way to crap on women.
28:51
I feel like social media and stuff like that.
28:53
In general. Yeah, I think he's going out of
28:56
his way to crap on everybody. He's an equal crapper.
29:01
I just think, I think guys, I just think guys can take it
29:04
more. I don't know when you're going
29:06
like I said, dude, when you're talking about.
29:08
Dude, you should. We're not talking about.
29:09
Did you hear that? So we're not equal.
29:10
Did you hear that, Cam that? Oh wow.
29:12
OK, so tell me, am I wrong then? Because I might be when he makes
29:16
fun of Shannon Sharp, right? I laugh.
29:19
I laugh my ass. Off.
29:21
Is it inappropriate? Yes.
29:22
But I don't think about it in the same way as when he makes
29:25
one of Kane Clark, so maybe that's on me.
29:27
Because he thinks Shannon Sharp is tough enough to take it.
29:29
Because he's a man. Exactly.
29:31
That's what I disagree. With but also we are equal.
29:33
If they wanted to fight, you know, if Shannon Sharp was mad
29:36
about what AB said, they could fight, you know, I just think.
29:38
Sometimes Sharp would probably win.
29:40
Sometimes you're kind of picking on girls.
29:42
That's what I'm. Saying I agree with.
29:44
That like Vivek at the debate. I think that one particular.
29:47
Debate where he just went off on all the women in the Republican
29:50
Party. I don't give a damn about that
29:54
right now. What I do care about though, if
29:56
you do want to take your lovely wife or girlfriend or whatnot,
30:01
you know who you're equal. To the whatnot part.
30:03
Or what? Well, you could be a cousin,
30:05
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Call your hands raised. What do you need?
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Well, I, I hope you were finished with that.
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OK, you are good. All right.
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31:37
Are we breaking? Phil, can I just say, by the
31:39
way, part of this too, I am, I am the father of a daughter and
31:43
I do think about it through that.
31:45
Lens, of course. As you should.
31:46
And you know what? I know you guys make fun of me,
31:47
but I used to think about the same thing with my sister and
31:50
you know what? This is also funny because like,
31:53
you shouldn't be like, until I had a daughter, I didn't realize
31:56
you should treat women well. You know, I treat women well
32:00
because I have a sister. If not, you know, I shouldn't
32:04
treat them well. But what I'm saying is I just
32:06
look at that like if Caitlin Clark was my daughter, I would
32:09
be. I couldn't even have Twitter.
32:10
No. Dude I would.
32:11
I would lose my God Dang mind. If Caitlin Clark was your son,
32:16
you would. Lose your money.
32:19
Think about it differently with a guy, dude.
32:20
That's how I think just do. I had a daughter if I had just
32:23
do if someone was doing something to my daughter
32:24
compared to my son, which my son should probably suck it up and
32:27
tough it out. My daughter, I'd be like.
32:29
Ah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
32:30
No, it's not. It's.
32:31
Not fair, but it's true. Like I would, if somebody's
32:34
going after my son, he's an adult.
32:35
I would think, You know what? My son can handle it.
32:37
You'd still lose your mind. I would, but not even close to
32:40
the same amount if people were were making fun of my daughter's
32:43
because weird. Weren't.
32:43
Oh yeah, come on. No doubt.
32:45
You would go insane, I know.