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Autumn Rose Care Tips & Tricks [090625] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Garden America Show, the country's most listened
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  Speaker 1: as we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping, in fact, anything
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  Speaker 1: that has to do with the world of gardening.
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  Speaker 2: Now here's Brian Maine.
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  Speaker 1: John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox on the Garden America Radio
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  Speaker 1: and Media Network.
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  Speaker 3: Oh here we go, John, that was a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Garden America. Welcome to whatever mess we have
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  Speaker 3: going on in here with wires every place.
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  Speaker 4: And I was my daughter's visiting from out of town,
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  Speaker 4: my daughter and the grandkids, and we went to the
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  Speaker 4: beach and Carl Spith stayed at the Cammerick Beach Resort
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  Speaker 4: for a few days. And while the weather was one
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  Speaker 4: hundred degrees in Fallbrook, it was in the eighties on
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  Speaker 4: the coast, eighties and humid, which is about its highest.
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  Speaker 4: I think you guys get Tiger right. Did you hit
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  Speaker 4: ninety at all?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think we did. You know, it definitely felt
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  Speaker 5: like it sometimes because of the humidity, but I don't
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  Speaker 5: think we actually did.
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  Speaker 3: It's cooling off, though today's like supposed to be even cooler.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna hit ninety in Fallbrook again though.
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  Speaker 3: Eighty one where we are.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so my daughter came out for a visit. Because
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  Speaker 4: everybody's birthdays around the same time. So we were celebrating
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  Speaker 4: my daughter, Gina's birthday, which is on the twelfth of September,
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  Speaker 4: which is, let's today the ninth or eight?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, because my mom's is on the ninth.
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  Speaker 4: Six Oh, it's only the sixth. O.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, I like John's idea. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: back up here. What's that this is going to be
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  Speaker 3: for Daniel, We're going to start the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a great idea since we haven't said
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  Speaker 3: so here we go three two one. People love this,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because it's a peak behind the scenes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: welcome to guard in America. Your boys are back. We're
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  Speaker 3: in studio. I'm Brian Main, John Bagnasco, Taka Pela Fox here. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for joining us. We hope you had a
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  Speaker 3: good week. We enter the weekend very positively, lots of optimism.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever you heard before the other start of the show
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  Speaker 3: is a moot point because we just started fresh John.
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  Speaker 3: Everything from here forward is the real reality, not what
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  Speaker 3: you thought you heard before.
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  Speaker 4: As opposed to the fake reality. Yes, yeah, yes, we
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  Speaker 4: got into that fake news thing for a while and
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  Speaker 4: it just wasn't working.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't work for us.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, the dartening. You need real news. And by
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  Speaker 4: the way, today's show is going to be geared towards roses.
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  Speaker 4: Oh right, I figured, let's talk about something. I know.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 4: At least we can get that taken care of. And
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  Speaker 4: it's it's important to talk about roses because this is
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  Speaker 4: the time of year where certain things should be happening.
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  Speaker 2: That was in the newsletter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you talked about this is one last push, right John.
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  Speaker 3: If you're in California, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if you're in colder areas of the country,
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  Speaker 4: you don't have to do anything. Yeah, if you're in Michigan,
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  Speaker 4: just let let them go, don't cut them back. You
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  Speaker 4: never want to cut back roses and cold climates going
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  Speaker 4: into winter, because your pruning is in the spring and
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  Speaker 4: it's cutting out dead wood, you know, from everything that freezes.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I told John a couple of weeks ago, after seeing
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  Speaker 3: his rose that I cut my way back to sticks.
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  Speaker 3: They look like, yeah, I had never done that before.
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  Speaker 3: I've always been kind of ah and just a little
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  Speaker 3: bit here, a little bit there. But I cut them
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  Speaker 3: way back. This has been now three weeks already leaves they.
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  Speaker 2: Look like their brand new roses.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, anybody that's that's afraid to do that, do it
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  Speaker 3: make the plunge cut them back.
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  Speaker 4: I'm asking Tiger to give me comments.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what's going on. I think it's
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  Speaker 5: just the new way. It's up here for the comments. John,
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  Speaker 5: you got to figure out.
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  Speaker 2: But Carla wrote that she loved Tanya's lithops from the newsletter.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Tanya sent me some uh, a couple of emails, you know,
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  Speaker 4: one with the picture of her lithops, but one with
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  Speaker 4: a little care on how to grow lithops, which I
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  Speaker 4: thought was kind of funny because I wrote two books
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  Speaker 4: on tectus and suck, and I have our listeners instructing
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  Speaker 4: me how to grow lithops, and I admit I've never
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  Speaker 4: been able to grow them. But the one that I
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  Speaker 4: have in the ground I think will bloom this week.
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  Speaker 4: So I never had that much trouble with lithops growing
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  Speaker 4: in I would say, in pots, because you can just
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  Speaker 4: stop watering during the time when you're not supposed to.
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  Speaker 4: But in the ground. That's been a problem for me
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  Speaker 4: if they get too much water at the wrong time.
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  Speaker 4: But as time you pointed out, this is the time
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  Speaker 4: of year where they are going into the growing season
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  Speaker 4: and that's when they can use some water. But anyway,
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  Speaker 4: I'm kind of excited about the ones that I have
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  Speaker 4: and they're going to be open.
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  Speaker 3: But back to roses, Yeah, I'm excited. And I never
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  Speaker 3: sent you pictures when I cut them back.
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  Speaker 4: I think I've done it before and after. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 4: you're in California and you're cutting back now. In six weeks,
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  Speaker 4: your blooms will be almost as nice as they were
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  Speaker 4: in spring.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking I'm halfway there in three weeks.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, we usually use six weeks as a
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  Speaker 4: general rule of thumb, but in the fall it sometimes
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  Speaker 4: takes a little longer because the days are getting shorter.
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  Speaker 4: I think it used to be. Was it last month,
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  Speaker 4: was eight o'clock before the sunset? Now it's yeah, setting
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  Speaker 4: at seven.
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  Speaker 5: You just have to touch the screen and then they'll
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  Speaker 5: pop up. Carla has a couple questions that she's queuing
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  Speaker 5: up for you regarding roses.
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  Speaker 6: Right now, Yeah, let's hit Carla, Let's don't hit Carla,
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  Speaker 6: I'm a good cal hey.
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  Speaker 2: Figuratively speaking.
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  Speaker 4: The one thing I wanted to point out Lisa in
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  Speaker 4: reading wanted to know. She got one of those propagating
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  Speaker 4: box and she put all her cuttings in it and
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  Speaker 4: they all died. So she wanted to know how what
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  Speaker 4: she did wrong. And first of all, I want to
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  Speaker 4: point out to all our listeners, if you go to
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  Speaker 4: to YouTube and just put how to grow rose cuttings,
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  Speaker 4: you'll come up with quite a few videos.
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  Speaker 7: And video Yeah, picking the one you want, and the
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  Speaker 7: one you want John's because because it's not better, but
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  Speaker 7: the one you want is one that shows you how
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  Speaker 7: to do it with the cutout.
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  Speaker 4: Soda bottle where you cut off the bottom and that's right. Well,
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  Speaker 4: used to use zeph for years, right, Yeah, So on
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  Speaker 4: these propagating boxes you do the same thing.
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  Speaker 5: The humidity dome, right, that's what you're trying to achieve
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  Speaker 5: with it, Like that one that you purchased down Amazon,
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  Speaker 5: and it's got the heat pad and the ventilation and everything.
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  Speaker 2: How is that working out?
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  Speaker 4: By the way, Well, that's what Lisa has and I
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  Speaker 4: just took a sip of tea and drank it down
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  Speaker 4: the wrong way. Well, but Lisa said she's not using
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  Speaker 4: the heating heating pad because she thinks warm enough.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred degrees.
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  Speaker 4: You need the excuse me, you need the heating pad.
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  Speaker 4: So Lisa, turn that on and turn it to medium to.
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  Speaker 5: Eat it even even if it's ninety degrees outside right now, right,
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  Speaker 5: because the soil's not okay.
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  Speaker 2: So no, no, that's a great note.
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  Speaker 5: I would have never thought to use the heating pad
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  Speaker 5: in the summertime when I was propagating plants because I
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  Speaker 5: thought it would be warm enough. But you're saying that
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  Speaker 5: that heating pad warms up the soil, right, And that's
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  Speaker 5: the critical part of the warm not not the outside air,
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  Speaker 5: not the you know, sun on it, but that soil
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  Speaker 5: needs to get up.
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  Speaker 2: To that temperature.
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  Speaker 4: Then the other important thing is what type of cutting
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  Speaker 4: to take, right, And I find shoulder cuts are the
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  Speaker 4: most effective. And a shoulder cut is if you looked
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  Speaker 4: at first of all, it has to be a rose
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  Speaker 4: that just bloom, and the bloom is faded, and you
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  Speaker 4: cut off the bloom and then take the cutting from
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  Speaker 4: where it attaches to the stem.
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  Speaker 3: They're way up hie right there, the shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: Right where it's attached and that area that you cut
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  Speaker 4: off is the area where roots are usually going to
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  Speaker 4: form natural and if you try to cut it in
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  Speaker 4: an angle, that's good. And I think Lisa said she
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  Speaker 4: used one bud per plant. Well you've got to have
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  Speaker 4: a six to an eight inch cut it cut. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: small ones not going to work. So do that. Go
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  Speaker 4: to YouTube and and everything else. Lease that was doing
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  Speaker 4: was fine, So you should get much better results. And
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  Speaker 4: it's important not to keep the soil too wet, just
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  Speaker 4: evenly moist.
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  Speaker 5: I always describe the correct moisture for soil is damp
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  Speaker 5: like a wrungout spot. So if you were to pick
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  Speaker 5: up a handful of that soil and squeeze it, no
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  Speaker 5: water would come out right, but it would still moist
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  Speaker 5: right right, and it's not dry and powdery. You know
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  Speaker 5: that's the like ideal situation. Now, let me ask you
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  Speaker 5: because you mentioned the flowers need to be fading, John,
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  Speaker 5: so you know this can't be a butted up cutting,
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  Speaker 5: not be.
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  Speaker 4: A fresh but it car that has an open door,
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  Speaker 4: a flower that's still open.
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  Speaker 2: Now, what about on the opposite end, like it's already
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  Speaker 2: a hip? Is that too late?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Is it kind of like you got to be right, or.
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  Speaker 4: It'll still work, but you're getting to where it might
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  Speaker 4: be too late.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So the other thing is that spring and fall are
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  Speaker 4: the best times to take through rows, so this is
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  Speaker 4: a good time to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I have a rose question for you too, John.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how you feel about this, and other
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  Speaker 5: people that are rose growers out there listening, let me
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  Speaker 5: know what you think about this right now. But you know,
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  Speaker 5: you would go to some people's homes with their roses
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  Speaker 5: and they were just absolutely gorgeous. I think I told you,
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  Speaker 5: you know, some months ago, John, I went to this
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  Speaker 5: home in Temecula and they had roses and they were
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  Speaker 5: just everything looked perfect, you know, no problems whatsoever on
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  Speaker 5: any of these roses that I figured they've got to
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  Speaker 5: be using something like the Bayar you know all in
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  Speaker 5: one or the Bayar three and one that was protecting
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  Speaker 5: them against bugs and disease, and they were fertilizing and
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  Speaker 5: all that stuff, which which was is a great product.
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  Speaker 5: You know, if it's a really no nonsense, you you know,
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  Speaker 5: you treat your roses with one granular product and you
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  Speaker 5: don't have to worry about them. And we've talked about
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  Speaker 5: how you know, you don't have a lot of bugs
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  Speaker 5: or problems and your roses and you don't do anything.
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  Speaker 2: But this is just something for people to make it easy.
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  Speaker 5: But doing away with the midacloprid now in California, you
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  Speaker 5: know where, Now they can't put that. They put in
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  Speaker 5: a new chemical. I saw it on the shelves again,
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  Speaker 5: so they saw it. I saw the bear or advance
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  Speaker 5: now advanced or something.
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  Speaker 3: And to keep us on time, Bisktok Radio, welcome, Thank
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  Speaker 3: you for joining us those that are watching the weird
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  Speaker 3: video on Facebook Live. I stay weird because look at
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  Speaker 3: who's on.
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  Speaker 2: The look at you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, we're gonna take a break on Brian Main, John
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  Speaker 3: Bagnasco Tuck at Califox. This is Guard in America.
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  Speaker 2: Back after these methods.
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  Speaker 8: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio show with Brian,
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  Speaker 8: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, right back after that break on BIS talk radio.
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  Speaker 3: Very quick on Facebook Live. Just one camera for those
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  Speaker 3: that are watching Facebook Live. Kind of a weird long
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  Speaker 3: side shot of John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Weird long side shot.
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  Speaker 3: Weird long side shot, good description radio a weird lung.
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  Speaker 2: Weird long side shot.
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  Speaker 3: So you had mentioned just a change in products We
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  Speaker 3: talked about this a few weeks ago, and I asked
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  Speaker 3: what I thought was a very basic question, was these
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  Speaker 3: people making these decisions to take away something to discontinue
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  Speaker 3: these people? These people exactly? So where are they getting
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  Speaker 3: their advice from? You would think experts in the industry
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  Speaker 3: that would say, actually, it's it is safe, or perhaps
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  Speaker 3: if you want to change your chemical, go to this chemical.
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  Speaker 3: How are they making those fish.
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  Speaker 4: From the pressure they get from environmental activists.
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  Speaker 3: Which makes no sense, because that's fine, give us all
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  Speaker 3: the pressure you want, but at the same time, let
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  Speaker 3: me do some research and find out what is safe
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  Speaker 3: and what is insane.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've pulled products off the shelf that we
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  Speaker 2: know are not safe to use, you know, but then.
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  Speaker 3: They replaced it with this new chemical that you talked about.
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  Speaker 5: Well but no, but I'm saying, like, you know, no,
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  Speaker 5: there's products that we used to use that definitely were
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  Speaker 5: not good to you.
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  Speaker 2: Which is fine when that happens.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you still use agent orange John on your property?
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because they have a lot left over. It
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  Speaker 4: can't Pendleton, Sure, and it's it's.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm also interested to know, you know, because we
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  Speaker 2: have listeners from all over the country right and all
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  Speaker 2: over the world, all over the world. And and just
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  Speaker 2: because something's not available to us doesn't mean it's not
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  Speaker 2: available to them.
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  Speaker 5: And there's all kinds of products. I had this friend
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  Speaker 5: that had a rattlesnake problem at their house. They used
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  Speaker 5: to live in East County, San Diego, and they had
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  Speaker 5: a rattlesnake problem in the house. And they were all
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  Speaker 5: kinds of snake repellents out there, right, And you know,
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  Speaker 5: obviously California has its rules about putting what they can
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  Speaker 5: put in there. But then we had this other friend
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  Speaker 5: that lived in Arizona that lived and died by this
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  Speaker 5: like snake repellent that they had, and but we couldn't
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  Speaker 5: get it here in California. So my my friend in
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  Speaker 5: California would get my friend in Arizona. Whenever they would visit,
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  Speaker 5: they'd bring out these these repellents. But you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 5: there's products that are found elsewhere. And so what I'm
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  Speaker 5: getting is, yeah, is I bet you there's people out
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  Speaker 5: there that you know, have their products that they buy
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  Speaker 5: in their hometowns or their states that they love to use,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's for a fis or for snakes or for gophers,
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  Speaker 5: or all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we used to, we used to.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it's available anymore, but you know, the
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  Speaker 5: gopher bait with strict nine, right like, that was an
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  Speaker 5: option for us for a while there, and I don't
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  Speaker 5: think it is anymore. But I'm sure there's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of states that still allow because there's some big pest
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  Speaker 5: problems wherever you go.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't know if you carried it, but
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  Speaker 4: most nurseries and next supplies had the Will Cooke ground
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  Speaker 4: squirrel bait. Yeah, and that was what a year ago
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  Speaker 4: last January was discontinued continued. Yeah, and you can't get
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  Speaker 4: it anymore, and it was very effective. Well you know
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  Speaker 4: now ground squirrels are taking over again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean not to stray too much from your
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  Speaker 5: topic of roses, John, but you know that's always been
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  Speaker 5: the that's always been the picture on the package, you know,
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  Speaker 5: for plants, you know, because roses is the number one thing,
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  Speaker 5: roses and tomatoes.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to sell something for gardening.
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  Speaker 5: Put a picture of a rose or put a picture
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  Speaker 5: of a tomato on there, and people are gonna say, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I need this for my rose or or for my tomatoes.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, through the years, there's been a lot
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  Speaker 5: of products that, you know, people have been specifically catered
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  Speaker 5: towards for roses and rosarians have their have their thing.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you talk about the was it the grow
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  Speaker 5: power product or grow more products that only the San
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  Speaker 5: Diego Rose Society gets made for them like once a year?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think it's grow more, grow More.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and you guys love that and you
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  Speaker 5: guys buy a palette of it once a year.
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  Speaker 4: And no, it's the I think it's the best for
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  Speaker 4: allized around the market.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's g r O. Isn't it.
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  Speaker 4: Just g r O?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Grow power? But the problem is is like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we can't like eat, I can't even get it, Like.
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  Speaker 4: It is a W for grow more?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 9: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Grow power is just g R O?
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  Speaker 4: I think?
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  Speaker 2: And then grow more is g r O.
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  Speaker 4: W thinks that's sure. I'm not sure what Kanya was
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  Speaker 4: referring to it, maybe you know, but talking about I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 4: I guess it was Carla. She said, like HB one
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  Speaker 4: on one in California? Can you not get HB one
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  Speaker 4: on one here anymore?
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  Speaker 2: Great question? I don't know. I'm I went to Amazon
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little bit removed from the retail side of
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  Speaker 2: it things now, but I know we have some on
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  Speaker 2: our shelves, so put nobody from the county or city.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the ones that you're going to throw away, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: those are still sitting on the shelf.
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  Speaker 2: But but I think, I really think that the problem
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: there is the packaging, right, because they leave HB one
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: on one is very vague, right, they don't put a
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: lot of specifics.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: In their package that it's kind of for expray.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, California wants you to tell us exactly what's in it,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: exactly and exactly what you can use it for and
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: what does it do?
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Yes, and if your package is any kind of like
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: do you think that I could put a bottle on
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: the shelf and just say spray?
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Well, to be honest us, the HB one oh one
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: is kind of like the old snake or yes.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: You know, except it worked.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: It does work. It works really well, but I've never
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: understood it, so I just use.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: It true like you know, you're you're you're right. Like
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: for those of us that have been involved with HB
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: one and one for all these years and talk to.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Talk to what was her name?
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we had it on a time or too.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: A few times I.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Can't remember, but you know, she's the rep the manufacturer
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: for it all and still don't understand how it worked.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Well, when you describe it to people, they say, is
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: it a fertilizer. No, it's more like vitamin It's more
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: like taking a vitamin B.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Just it's good for you.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: But see the problem there is they used to sell
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: vitamin B one, which did absolutely right.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Well, that's just the analogy I give people that.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, they did sell that, so people kind of
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: get the same feeling that maybe HB one on one
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: the same kind of hope.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Know. Lisa brought up you know, we were talking I
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: guess it was last segment about the rooting box, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: And the one thing that we neglected to say is
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: that it does come with lights on the box. The
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: what are those kind of lights?
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Lights?
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Led? And Lisa wanted to know how long do you
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: keep those on? And you know what I do on
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: mine is it's sometimes you can buy it this way,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: depending on what system you bought, but if not, just
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: get a timer and I set it for twelve hours.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: So I let it on for twelve hours. I think,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: especially because it's led, you need a little longer time
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: and and it's not natural lights, So twelve hours and
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: just have it go on and off and you don't
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: have to worry about it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so basically you're getting twenty four hours of
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: potential growth, potential development versus if you don't have a light,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: you're really only getting the daylight hours, right.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: And if it's indoors like mine's in a garage.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, so I have it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: I think I have it set for eight da.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Your garage is nice, dude, it's very well le garage.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: That's the natural light going in.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Yea.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Where do you keep the hay bails in the garage?
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Oh? There are no hay bails?
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: So do you do you only set it though at
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: night though, because you, like I say, You're roage is
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: very naturally lit.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Or do you just have twelve hours no matter what time?
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: It's not a shelf, so it's not getting good light
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: direct like, Okay.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I'd love to continue this garage talk.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: We have to take a break, all right, BIS Talk
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Radio we do and are friends that are tuned in
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: on Facebook Live. It is guard in America Hello there,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I'm Brian Maine, John Beg Nascar Attack at Pellow, Fox
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Break Time, Past the Bills and back after these messages
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: on biz Talk Radio.
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: John and Tiger.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Some Squirrelsome chemicals in your storage show. We are back
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: from the Brain.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Carol, you're wondering. You're absolutely right on that one.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: It is guarded in America. Thank you for joining us here.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: We go been talking about roses and chemicals and fertilizers
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: and HB one on one things taking off the shelf
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: and yeah, it does very state by state. Yeah, and
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: it's it's interesting how it's not like there's not one
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: consensus that yes, it's been proven that this is this
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: is bad, take it off across the board.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's state by state.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, and that it does make sense to
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: some degree because you know, we have different problems than
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: other places do, so there are some things that we
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: need to use more or less than other places. I mean,
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: you know, was it could kutsu that's the rampant weed
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: kind of through the south cut cuts, you know, rampant
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: weed through those south kind of a thing.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And you know I mean, I'm sure that they need
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: to use to control that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: And because it's it's literally taking over eight you know, forests,
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: you know, and that's a problem.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: So what's what's the eagles?
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, My uneducated opinion is that it's one of the
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: safest chemicals in the world. Yeah, yeah, you know, but
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: but it's been sprayed by tons.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah all over yeah, and all over our food forever, forever, forever. Bag.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: You can't get up in front of somebody eight John,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: So I got another rose question.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: You're talking about your Hey, quickly a little let me
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: just answer Lisa. She said hers did come with a
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: timers can't figure out.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: How to use goodness?
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Just ask John.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: He's next is with you.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I want to admit the same thing. I couldn't figure
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: out how to use it. So I got, you know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: the kind of use for Christmas treek life. Yes, that
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: you just go to the ace and you can buy
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: one and just plug it in that way.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: John.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: John's timer is on its phone and he sets an
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: alarm and he's it goes off, he goes out, he turns.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: It on, and then he goes off, and he turns
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: it off.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: And dealing with timers So there's the digital timer, which
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: actually has and then there's.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: A little dial that's the one he's talking.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I cannot figure out that dial. Dana loves it.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I said, well, just get the digital one right there.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Gives you the time and it tells you how much
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: time to turn it on or off. No, I like
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: the digital and not the digital, but the I know the.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: One you're talking about. But that one's simple to use.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Once you figure out that, you have to take the
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: little dial and turn into the current time.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: And once you do that, then if you wanted to
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: be the one to either push push those little buttons
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: down to where you wanted to stop or pull them up.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: And you think that's.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Easier than your your sprink splint.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Sprinkler, sprinkler? What's a sprinkler?
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Wow, I don't know, I'll figure that out. You think
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: that's easier than your sprinklers? That that that you haven't
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: figured out yet?
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: The timing on that, oh, I still know, but I
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: do know how to turn them on and off. Man,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Tiger's going to teach me how to.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's simple, right, you just know it's nuts.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: There's a clock, right, and then there's a lot.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Of buttons that do a lot of jobs.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Let's say that right, like, like the same button you
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: can activate something, or the same button also adds time,
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: or the same button changes.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: To a different mode.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: So how complicated it is.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of like English where you have one
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: word that means four different things and you've got to
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: figure out which thing are they trying to determine.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Here one word that sounds the same but spelled four
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: different ways.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, here's a problem I see already with it. Yeah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: so you could teach John how to do it. You go, oh, okay,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I've got it. Now he doesn't have to do it
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: for the next several months that you forget.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: You know what.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: And it's so funny you mentioned that, Brian, because I
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: had the same conversation with the customer of mine this week,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: and so I have a rose question for John again.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: But regarding as irrigation thing, I was at someone's house
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: and I was programming their clock for them because they
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: had problems with it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: And so.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: I go out there and this is a very common thing,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: and I'll see if I can explain it well to
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: people listening. But when you have irrigation controllers. They usually
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: have multiple programs, and you have multiple programs to change
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: the frequency of water days. So for instance, like a
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: lawn in a hot summer time, you might want to
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: water it three to four times a week, so you
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: need to have it on its own programs. You can
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: have it activated three to four times.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: And then we meant timing how you want it to go.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that involves the station time. Okay, But then
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: at the same time, you might have plans and they
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: only need water once a week, so you can't have
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: them on the same program because you got one activating
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: four times a week, you only want once. You separate
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: them out on different programs, So that's the program.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Okay. Then you have start times.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: So the reason why you might have multiple start times
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: is the biggest reason is you have a sloped area
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: and if you run your system for what it needs,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: maybe twenty minutes, you might have runoff, meaning after five
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: or six minutes of the system running, water just starts
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: running down the hill.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Well, you can have multiple start times.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: So what you do is you run it for five minutes,
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: have it turned off, run it again in an hour
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: for five minutes, turn off, run it again in another
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: hour for five minutes have it turned off, so you're
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: getting twenty minutes of watering, but it's staying there. So
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: that's why you have multiple will start times. And then
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: you have your run time which is the individual zones,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: which you know five ten minutes an hour if you
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: have a drip or something like that. So people all
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: get in there and then they start programming it all
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: and they put in multiple start times, they put in
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: multiple programs and next thing you know, your WAWNT is
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: getting watered seven days a week, three times a day
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: for thirty minutes, and you can't figure out.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: What And then you have the changing of the season
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: somewheer to win where you don't want the same times
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: or the same you know duration.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: But but then, like what you hinted on, the biggest
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: problem is I do this every day.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: I go to someone's home everylmost every day and adjust
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: their irrigation controller. Where like you say, like John, you
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: the normal homeowner, they're really only touching it maybe once
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: a month or once every three months.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: If that, you forget and you forget what you did
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: last time. For you how to do it, it's become.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: You need you need to to take a video like
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: like of yourself explaining it to somebody. Put it on
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: your phone, so you have to do it. You can
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: just go down there and do it. Yeah, I get it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I get it. So John, I wro it's the time
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: out is for me?
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Is Tiger's explanation. I just sowned out. I don't even
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: know what he was talking about.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I mean I get the concept because Tiger's boring is
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: because my mind no, but it can't comprehend them.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: But I get the concept. But it's all these because
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: you have not everything, because you're sharing. This button shares
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: and does a lot of things. It doesn't just do
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: one thing. It's not like on and off or you
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: can turn it on and off. But you can also
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: set it for five minutes too. You can set it
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: for a slope and go five minutes, ten minutes, fifteen
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: minutes and pretty soon like wait what yeah what? Because
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: it's so multifaceted, I mean, can you can you simplify?
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Can you dumb it down?
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: You can?
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Like John does it? Does John need all that?
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: No?
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: But he needs to know that because when he's adjusting,
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: he needs to know the mistakes he's making. Okay, meaning
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: like I said, some people go in there and they go, oh,
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: I should put it in these four start times.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have four zones, like no, no, no, no,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: you need one start time because it doesn't it doesn't
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: start for every zone. It just is it's going to
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: start on zone one and then go to the next one,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: then go to the next one automatically. And people don't
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: know that.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: They think they have to put in a start time
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: for every zone and they don't realize they're running their
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: system four times.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: The other thing I'm thinking of is do you need
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: to change systems on a regular basis, like the actual clock. No,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: the types of sprinklers like you know in the back
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: we we had those sprinklers and we pulled them all
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: out and we put in none of him. Yeah, because
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: the other ones won't work. We weren't working. And now
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking the area in the front of the house
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: where we have that system. There's landscape there. Now nothing's
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: getting watered except the very front because it's blocking. It's blocked.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to adjust right based on.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Maybe the only issue that I have with the netifim
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: is it makes netafin makes it very difficult to plant
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: new flowers annually for you know, small perennials, because you know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: with a sprinkler system, you run it for seven or
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: eight minutes and it water is pretty good.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Right where with metaphim if you're.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Not planting an annual or perennial right next to the line,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: then it doesn't get water and you have to get
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: out there and handwater a lot until until it it
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: gets established.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: So but with the other system you get no water,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: right yeah, right.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Well, or you move a sprinkler, you know what I mean,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: like sometimes.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Add sprinklers to the back to the back.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just depends. So it just depends on what
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: you want to do. But you do need to like
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: you're saying, like as beds mature, as beds grow, things
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: get blocked. You know, Well where we.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Put then NFM in the back with the roses that
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: they're doing spectacular, They look great.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: And I think it was a great spot. It was
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: a small bed, right, you know, all you really have
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: is roses there, so you just soak that bed. Yeah.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: The rose question I had for.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: You, John was we got we got about thirty seconds, Okay,
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: we'll lead it and then we'll go to the break.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: You got your starter. We also you've also started roses
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: from seed before. Are you the kind of person that's
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: just gonna scatter those seeds into that starter bed and
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: then as they grow you'll divide them and pull them
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: out and separate them into individual plants. Or are you
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: the person that's going to grow them an individual rows
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: so that way later on they are individual Spread your seed.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Go forth and multiply.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: We're going to take a break, a final break for
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I should say, the final segment for Bistalk Radio hour
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: one and for the rest of us on the Facebook
• 30:52
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• 30:54
  Speaker 3: in America back after these bistalk radio methods.
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: John and Tiger.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, we are back, as I mentioned, going into the break,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: final segment for our one on bis Talk Radio Facebook Live.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Thank you for the questions the comments as we just
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: roll along here talking about the lots sprinkler systems, roses
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: spreading your seeds. What would you do?
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: What would you do if you got a flat okay,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: and you're gonna plant seeds in there no matter what
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: they are. Are you just gonna scatter those seeds in
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: that flat, and then as they grow, you'll take out
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: the plant, the viable plants, and then maybe replant them
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: or you know, transplant them, or you kind of person
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: that would take that flat and you're going to put
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: your seeds in individual like rows, spaced out evenly so
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: that way when they did grow, they would already be
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: individual plants.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably that, I think Brian would be the would
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: kind of Oh yeah, yeah, I would be what are
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: you John, Well.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: It depends that if it's from breeding, you want to
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: know what that cross was, so you don't want to
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: mix it with other things. Yes, So I usually put
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: them in individual liner pots right with the tag, and
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: I put the cross in that pot, so whatever germinates,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I know what it is. But then I let them
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: grow in there for uh, until they develop maybe maybe
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: three four inches, and then I pull them out and
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: separate them.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Because you do grow multiple ones in liner.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Pots, right, but you don't know what's going to germany, right,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: So you in that liner pot you got termination. Others
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: would get five some noun and at what.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: At what plant? This is roses?
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: That?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: What plant heights?
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: Do?
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: You begin to separate them out about about three inches
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: in do you throw away the the runts or do
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: you keep them and try to get them together?
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: No, I want to see what they're gonna But the
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: way they do it commercially is they'll have a they
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: do it in greenhouses, of course, but they'll have long
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: beds and they scattered the seeds in a row and
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: or an area with a label at the end, and
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: they let them come up and actually bloom there and
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: then they go through and they pull them out.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: So do they use it flat or the you know
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: what we're you know, when we were at plug Connection
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: and we were doing the tomatoes and stuff, they would
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: have them a little cells kind of a thing.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Is that the way?
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: No, No, the like Jackson and Perkin shoe stew or
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Weeks would have tables that were seed starter soil mostly vermiculate,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: and they would plant the seeds and let them just
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: so any seed that germaniles and seeds that Jackson and
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Perkins used to do when Keith Zari was there, they
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: would make. They would be surprised if they got five
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: plants that they kept out of three hundred thousand.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Now, when we were in France at that meon that
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: were they developed and group roses. Right, they took us
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: out in the back and there was these huge piles.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Those were roses that made it through that that stage
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: where they eliminated all the bad ones. Those were the
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: ones they thought had merit and and all those huge
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: piles we saw were you know, the second calling that like,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: you know, we thought it would be good.
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: But it's not a huge I mean you think, what
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: a yes, you think nothing is good in there. It's
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: that's funny good enough for me, it's funny, exactly funny.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: How we get with that with life.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Like we've talked about this with you before, Brian, that
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: you're a you know, salvage gardener where if you see
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: a plant just laying by the trash can and you'll
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: grab it and then bring it back to health and
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: keep it on your patio. And you know, there are
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: so many, you know, plants out there that just go
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: to waste, and we always feel bad, you know, for
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: those plants.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, just like you know, it's
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: part of it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I found I found a succulent just randomly on
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: the ground.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: What just it's just like a cutting that was like
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: fell off of a someone's So I.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Think I took it and kind of, you know, haphazardly
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: stuck it in a pot.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: You're so lucky you don't have like ten acres. No,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: if you had, if you had a lot of property.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I'd be going, that's all I would do all I
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: would do it. I'd be out there all the time. Yeah,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: and yeah, it's uh because what I do have is
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: very crowded. But I took this succulent. I kind of
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: stuck it into a pot so I can decide what
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: to do with it. And well, Dana says, well, it's
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: gonna die go. No, it's okay for a while.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: You could.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I could put it on the ground, you know, for
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: a mile, and it would be okay. I just don't
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: know what to do with it. Maybe I will throw
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: it away. But it's fine. It's green, it's it's very violent.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: It's dannisy, you know, it's like tossing out a I
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: don't know, No, I mean a living creature.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you're you're lucky you don't have a lot
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: of property. I think that you would, uh, every every
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: plant on your property would be salvageable to you or
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: maybe or maybe you would learn to let go.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you have to learn.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because look at.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: John like he salvages everything too, Like he's saying like
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: he wants to see what the rose is. But you
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: also are okay with roses dye.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Everyone. You know, you, You're okay. You you understand used.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: To be a traumatic experience. Really, you know, whys called
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Susan ball and I think I had the last one
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: in the world.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Well that's different. That's different.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Well I was on vacation.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about your like your propagation, your cuttings,
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: and you think, yeah, that one didn't make it.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Not. Oh, I don't have that kind of attitude. But
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: it's like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I can't
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: root these anymore. I think we I think out a
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: bunch from from Sanger House that I've been trying to
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: get to root and I can't.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of gardeners take it personally. You
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: know you're responsible for that plant done? Yeah, well you
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: like the little prince. You're like, well, yes, it was
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: under my care, but I did everything I was supposed
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: to do. I really had no control over it, didn't you. Well,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I get that's all defense restaurant.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, no, I tried.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, you can order trees, right, can you order trees
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: for customers?
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Can you get Lila in Poway a bracy, a kite
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: and disc color?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Is that the one we were asking about?
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I thought that I had seen it at at
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Green Thumb Nursery, right. I think we mentioned that, yea, yeah,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: and Lilah went in checked and so she didn't come
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: out and say, John, you lied. You had no idea
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: what you were talking about. But she said that they
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: didn't have.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, So I can't access my phone right now, Lilah
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: because it's holding us up.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Part of the balen wire that's waiting. Send me an.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Email and when I'm back in on Monday, I will
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: look into it for her because I'll be back out
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: at her house I think in another week or so.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, it is break time for bis Talk
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Radio because top of the hour news is coming up.
• 38:50
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• 38:54
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• 38:56
  Speaker 3: us on this weekend. I'm Brian Maine, John Bag Nascar
• 38:59
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• 39:02
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• 39:04
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• 39:04
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• 39:05
  Speaker 3: They ware, alrighty, welcome back to the show. If you
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: are a BIS Talk radio listener, this is the very
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: beginning of our number two. In about six minutes after
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: the hour, Facebook Live, people questioning the the camera angle.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: It is because of the way we're set up this morning.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: We just have the one camera which is being which
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: is able to work off the Wi Fi here in
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: the studio, and we just had to decide where we
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: were going to point it.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now I was gonna point it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I wanted to point it out to the ceiling at
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: the roof, the roof and the carpet, and you said,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: now let's let's put it on on John and myself.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why it's there.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Now. I didn't realize a lot of people, a lot
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: of people who listen to us on Facebook watch it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Don't watch it, they just listen, but apparently people like
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: to watch.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to do more visual, Yes, visual shows.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: The you know, I'm having trouble on my phone where
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: I usually followed the com comments and uh, Carlos says, well,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: like please answer Leonora's rose quests me find it and yeah,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I can't find Leonor's rose question.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I was going to do that right now.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: So you tell me how you, Brian, how you had
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: all you cut your roses back three weeks ago.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Three weeks ago, the week after the week following, are
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: remote at your house?
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Okay? And you said they all have great leaves and
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: they looked like spring. But do you have any flower
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: buds yet? Or just the leaves.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take a closer look. The leaves are
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: the obvious, the red leaves, the early young red leaves.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: You still have about probably three more weeks before you
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: get flowers.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I would say I might have the beginnings. I'll go
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: look at all of them. But yeah, that was quite
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: a tasks.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Do you have now?
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Fifteen?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Wow?
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Four fun? Yeah, fifteen roses in a condo full of
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: trees and fountains, Well.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I've got I've got most of them up lining the sidewalk,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: which is not really it's my property, but it's not
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: as still considered hoa, But hey, what the heck?
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: It looks nice.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I'll show you. I should take a video and show
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: you what I've done. But everything's doing well. What's the
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: last plant that I had to diet? The one that
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: I gave you that the radic. Yes, well that had
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: barely got started. Yeah, that poor thing, wandering jew.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: I told you, I maybe it just wandered away.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought, the.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: They and it took forty days for that to happen.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: No, it was, it took four days. I did start
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: you a new one, and I checked it yesterday and
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: the roots were just starting to come out of the pot.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: So I will, I'm gonna put it someplace else.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I'll bring it to you next week.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna I'm not gonna put it where I
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: put it the other one.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: You know, my wife was thoroughly disgusted yesterday because I
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: don't know if you remember, but we have a table
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: on our patio. Then in the corner there's two there's
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: two palm trees in a pot.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: I know the palms. Yes, they're very big palms. It
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: looked very nice.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yesterday I went and watered that because it
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: looked like the impatience in there were drooping with all
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: the heat. And I thought, I thought I heard something Russell,
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: and I put more water and a rat ran out
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Oh no, my wife was so discussed, was she right there?
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: No?
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: But of course they had to tell her about it.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Here's the difference between Shannon and Dana. Danny would say, well,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: where it go, I can probably feed it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Oh goodness, no way, I couldn't get it. Yeah, I
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: get him. Brian, you want my phone there, see if
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: you can find see if you can find.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: Roses.
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: And then.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Someone else had a question on grow power.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: And while Brian's doing that, Uh, we'll go with the
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: quote of the week. Oh yeah, part of the week
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: is by may Sartin, who is a I think around
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: the turn of the last century was I'm trying to Yeah,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: I might be misremembering this, but I think she'd lived
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: in like the Bahamas or Bermuda or one of those islands,
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: and she was a gardener and a writer, and I
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: think she wrote some poet poetry. But anyway, she said
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: that a garden is always a series of losses set
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: against a few triumphs, just like life itself.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Very true, and you know, embrace the triumphs, right.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Because there's so few of them.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Exactly did you find him?
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Okay? I think yeah, And I guess there might be
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: several that were that we didn't address.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: But yeah, real quick, the problem is is John.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: The way that our system is set up right now,
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: and the way that John can see comments, it's not
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: like what we used to be able to do.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: So we'll rely on you.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: So this is Leonora that they yeah, she said, she asked.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: She just posted again. She wanted to know for two
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: rose plants that are kind that kind he will recover. Yeah,
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: and she said they look around and dry. From that description,
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: I would say no, but you know, it depends too
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: where they grafted, where they're not grafted. If they were
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: not grafted, even if the top is dead, sometimes if
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: the roots are still alive, it'll send up new sprouts.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: So if they're in an area that doesn't hurt, you know,
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: just leave it. If they're in containers, keep watered.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh, I would.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Say that ninety five percent of the time when I
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: try to bring one back that did that, it's dead and.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: And a lot of people make the mistake. They begin
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: to overwarm, right like they flood it.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that is also you know something you know, again,
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: we just emphasized the idea of keeping it damp but
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: not wet, because you know, then you know this plant
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: that has dried out, now you flood it. Now it's
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: feeling like it's underwater. It's just going to stretch it out.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: It's gonna make it work.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Are you John?
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I guess you can see the comments and questions now.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Will Rochelle had a question, what did you see it?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: The grow power question?
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Her question is was where could she get it?
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: The believe but the one that we were talking about.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we were talking about grow More, grow More,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: grow Power. I have no idea, but I think that
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: do you guys carry grow Power? I know Walter Anderson's does.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think we do now, but I could be wrong.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, Walter Anderson's carries grow power if they were
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: the big grow power sellers in San Diego, so you
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: could check with them. But if it's grow More Rochelle
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: and uh, I think the product do you remember Tiger's
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: the call Biostart.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I think that's what it was, or the bio something. Yeah.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But anyway, that comes in forty pound bags. So
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: you could get one bag and it would probably feed
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: your plants for the whole.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Year, but that one you had to order through the Rose.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Well that's what I was gonna mention, is that if
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: you joined the San Diego Rose Society. They take orders
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: starting in December, I think, and then they it's ready
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: for pick up in January, so they allow their members
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: to go ahead and order. Yeah, so I would do that. Okay, okay,
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: are you going to join?
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Do what you want to do?
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: You could?
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: You can?
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't mean everybody asked.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Idea, but at least you see the questions now right
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: where we well.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: There wasn't seem they reposted him his don't stay up
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: like yours, So on.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: My phone they wouldn't stay up either.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: No, because it's the way that we're doing that.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: And also John looks at it from Facebook, where I
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: look at it from the Facebook Business Suite, which shows
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: a different view.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: And since since my phone is over there, I can't.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: And a quick apology to anyone listening on BIS talk
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: radio because you're you're thinking, you know who cares?
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I hear you guys, just listening to you guys,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Just fine.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I just I'm just so disappointed with Brian's description radio descriptions.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I don't blame you.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: Carla wants to know how close to the to the
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: main stem of a plant below a bud union should
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: she cut off roots back came m hm. And if
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: it's possible to pull it off, rip it off, that's
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: the best way to ensure that it doesn't sprout again.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: But otherwise get as close as possible, because if you
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: leave even a a half inch y ub, there's dormant
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: butts in there and it'll just sprout again.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: And some are worse than others, you know, Fortuniana rootstock,
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: any buttle just send out this twenty foot plant within
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: a year. They've got to keep that cut back.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: And they sold the product called Sucker Stopper, which was
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: a spray that you think when you get that can't Yeah,
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: you cut it and then you spray it on there,
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: which would help control it too.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: Except on sucker Stopper, you don't cut it. Oh was
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: it just as the sucker's coming up to spray it.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: So it's got to have a new count of fooliage. Okay,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: it comes up every minute, right, I thought you cut
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: it and then sprayed it. It is break time.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: You can talk a break stopped every minute.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Playing Pete barn them. Okay, we're gonna take a break.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Bistok Radio Facebook live back after these messages.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: It is Garden America. Thank you for joining me.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, just like that, we are back. I think we're
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: almost caught up with the questions, the comments. What are
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: you grinning it?
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm grinning grinting because it seems like if the
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: listener doesn't like an answer, they changed the information they gave, didn't.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: We just talk about that in the nursery the other day.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: People come in, Oh, I know I watered it yesterday.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: I believe you watered it, but the week before where
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: you didn't water it.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I liked John's story where the guy that was working
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: for Frank Nursery said, Okay, I'll tell you what.
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, if you admit you didn't water the plant,
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: at you a new one?
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Okay water.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Leonard added a little more information. She said that she
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: still had one green stem. Yeah, if you've got still
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: got a green stem and a rose, it's way better
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: than a fifty to fifty chance. I'll come back again.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Don't overwater, well, you know, Leonora lists in canyon country,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: and that's I don't know if it's not as bad
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: as Palm Springs, but it's getting up there right now.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: It's close possible to overwater, is what you're saying.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: No, No, what I'm saying is that the roses go
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: into a dormant period the summer, and it's not water
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: that they need except to just, you know, make sure
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: they get too dry, getting harder and harder to breathe.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: They were just here, weren't They were in five Wednesday night. Yeah,
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: they're doing a private concert. I was invited. That's why
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: I brought it up. I didn't go at somebody's house.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: No, it was just for John.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: What's called the shell in San Diego.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Do you know that used to be the one on
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: the water down there in right, No, it's the one
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: in Seaport Village.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Oh see, yes, it used to be the a house
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: conference by the bay.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Oh yes.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Anyways, it's a grassy area right now.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: They were they were grassy all right. Yeah.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: I saw Santana their years ago and Paul Simon, Well,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: if you'd have been there Wednesday, I would have I
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: would have seen more.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: On five.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: You know what, there's a burling leong is breda rose
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: called maroon eight.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that supposed to be a play on ruon five? Oh?
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: No?
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: I said, where did you get the name from? She says, well,
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: the color's maroon and it has eight pedals. Oh oh,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: because that was my first thought, A play on maroon five?
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: What happened at six and seven?
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, come on, you.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Know, my fourteen year old granddaughter asked me that exact
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: question yesterday. She's fourteen already, Yeah, that's her. She just
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: had her birthday.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: That's quick, I know, fourteen.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: But I was trying to get some roses ready that
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: you know, I told you people are coming over from
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: the California Rose Society to get roses ready for the auction.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: And she picked up one that said maroon eight. She goes,
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: what happened to six?
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: And so I have the same mind of a fourteen
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: year old girl.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Of course, Well, your daughter's fifty four in trouble tiger Jesus.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she is fourteen, going to be fifteen in October.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're fourteen going on six.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. It's intense.
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: It's it's intense. She goes to an all girls school,
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: you know, Tassia does. And you know, I think when
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: I see kids that a normal public school, it's kind
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: of hard to see the range sometimes of you know,
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: this type of kid versus this type of person. Right, Well,
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: but when you're looking at you know, the same sex,
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: and it's all girls, and you see, you know, girls
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: that dress and act this way, and then you see
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: girls that dress and act this way. It's easier to
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: see the spectrum and and the niforms. Yeah, they wear uniforms,
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: and it's it's crazy to see the difference just within
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: one community.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: And it's a small community.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, the OLLP school I think is
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: maybe four hundred No, no, it's gotta be more than that,
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: maybe eight hundred people or something like that. So it's
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: a very small sample compared to some of the other
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: bigger public schools that have like thousands of kids there.
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: But it's it's funny. I don't know for the next
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: four years. I you know, I don't know what to
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: think for these next four years. What TOSSI is gonna
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: I really feel for you.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: When Gina went to high school her junior year in
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: New Zealand, she went to a school that was the
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: only co ed school in.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: La Oh really yeah.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Oh was she a foreign exchange student obviously?
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, she wasn't foreign, she was from here, but she
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: was foreign to them. Yeah, but they they still wore
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: uniforms though, yeah, even though it was co ed, they
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: all they had uniforms.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Uniform is a great thing. Yeah, I think so.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've worked. Oh you you want to know, but
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: I wore a uniform in grade school.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I went to public school. We wore jean shirts, whatever
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: we wanted.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: Did you grow up in PD Yes, right, So you're
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: lucky if you guys had shoes on, like your teacher
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: was like Brian, put on shoes when you come in.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: Now, the teachers didn't wear shoes. They came in the
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: flip flops and shorts. It was very very laid back,
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: very casual, and Pacific Beach back in the sixties was
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: just sleepy. Just nobody even knew it existed.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: If you didn't live here, you were lucky. If you
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: learned to read.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I did, Okay, okay, I'm up to I'm up to
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: am in the alphabets.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, I know, I know that's not true because you
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: can say it backwards say it. Yeah.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: And that Speaking of teachers that I told you the
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: story we had in twelfth grade. We had a teacher
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: who was actually a professor, but he taught part time
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: with the high school. His name was doctor Stern, but
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: he was he was one of those guys from the sixties,
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: and he was like, hey, man, it's all cool. I
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: get you, I understand you. You you look forward to
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: going to his class and he so he says, I
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: want to teach you how the brain works. So what
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: we're gonna do is we're gonna learn the alphabet backwards,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna start with Z and you may get
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: z y and then stop, and then you're gonna put
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: a little dot there and you're gonna chart to see
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: how one day you've you've got five or six and
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: next day maybe you only get two or three. But
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: like the stock market, you should see, you know, a
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: rise in your learning aspect, and after about maybe a week,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: you'll you'll get it. And yeah, sure enough and to
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: this day and still I never ever forgot it. And
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: that just really weird, going from from backwards to forwards?
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Do you know it both ways?
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Just as easy think so z i x w v
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: u ke z y x w v u t s.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: See this this is the thing that I get.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: That's not really compelling radio.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: No, it's not z y x w v u t s.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: Actually game where you you would go around, well usually
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: play it on a bus and you would have to
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: h think of a roset ridy that began with A.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: Then the next person had the rose game.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Which bus were you riding? Where you had these people
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: with you?
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: We would take you know, remember we would do I
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: think that was back with garden compass. We would do.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Buss We did bus tours.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you just do go through the whole alphabet.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: And and as soon as somebody was out, they if
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: you couldn't think of one, usually it was x or
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: que that would stump people.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: There's got to be a rose named xylophone or Zebra.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: Well there's there's Lotti, death z Perfect.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: There is one called I believe it just like every
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: time you look at an alphabet chart for exit xylophone
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: for z Zebra.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or as they say in South Africa and England zebra.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: I think we mentioned this before, but Tiny Petals Nursery
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: which was in Jula Vista and Dee Bennett was the
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: owner and breeder of a lot of miniature roses. Her
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: goal was to have created a rose for every letter
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: of the alphabet, and when she got the X, she
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: came up with X rader X rated.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: It is break time two more segments. By the way,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: so do stay with this Garden America. BIS Talk Radio
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: going to take a break for our friends on bistalk Radio.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in. This is Garden America. Alrighting
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: having fun Back from the break, biz Talk Radio Facebook Live. No,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: never wore school uniform Friends of ours who went to
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: private school did Laoya Country Day they wore uniforms. Yeah.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: I went to a parochial school and through grade school
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: or uniforms. I don't think the high school did.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 8: Though.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Did you go to summer camp? I'm not not summer camp,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: but but like sixth grade camp during.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: The school year. I didn't have that, ye did you? Yeah?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: San Diego isn't it California? California?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: But even now I think it's not even everywhere. Does
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: it used to be part of California curriculum?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: Yes, I did go to summer camp one year though.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: That's but that's part of their life there. See, we're here.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: We have to remove ourselves from the city.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: And I think in second grade I went to summer
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: camp too with a buddy of mine Camp Marshton.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's still does it camp? Queen Maca, Yeah,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: that's the sum that's the one of the big places
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: that kids go to. Six yek amp Okay.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Back to our rose discussion, Carlo wants to know how
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: far up the main stem you can put soil as
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: far as you want. Yeah, right, as far as what
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: do you what do you mean when you're planning it?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: I guess she said that hers seem to get above
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: the quite a bit above the soil line. Usually in
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: California they keep the bud union above the soil line
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: so you can see if the plants suckering.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they leave, you know, quite a bit.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: But in cold climates they bury the bud union because
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: if the plant freezes to the ground, there's still a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: chance that will come up and the bunch union is exposed.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: Then the whole plants said.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Unless you want to planet, you don't want the graph
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: to be below the soil.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: And and.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: I'm saying cold areas they do put it below the.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Soil and they mulch the whole plant.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: Right, Well, we used to do, we used to have
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: they were I don't know what they do now because
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: I haven't lived in a cold climate since nineteen seventy seven.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: But the we used to have rose collars and it
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: would be like a last sized cardboard thing that you
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: would hook around the rose and then you would fill
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: that with like costa been multa.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: Or coco been moultas or straw sometimes just some type
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: of multiples. Yeah, and that just prevents, like you're saying,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: it from freezing in the wintertime.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's usually not the the cold, but it's the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: drying winds. So if you've got something around at the stems,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: please survive. And like I said, that's what they're spring
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: pruning is is is just cutting out everything that's dead.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: Now, I'm sure there's this has happened because there's so
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: much prep work, like we talk about here. You know,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: you puta when there's a frost advisor, you know, those
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: plants that you're concerned about, you put a frost clothough
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: we you know, we've said just a light sheet is enough.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: You don't need a blanket. Don't do a plastic bag. Definitely,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: don't do a black plastic bag. The heat well like
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: and there's no light and if you forget to take
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: it off, it's very bad. Right, So back there, did
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: they have to be really on top of removing that
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: winter prep work stuff or was there like a good window,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: like a month that you had that if you left
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: it on too long, did it kill the plant.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: Well, you wanted to make sure you did not remove
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: it too early because you would usually have like a
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: January thaw, the temperature would go up to seventy degrees
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: for a day or two, So you don't want to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: remove it during then. But then you don't want to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: leave it on so long that the buds begin to
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: grow under there, and then when you take it off,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: you've got this really tender growth and then you get
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: a cold weather. Okay, so I really admire rose in
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: those areas.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of plants.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think I would grow roses if I lived
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: in this area.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. A lot of planning, a lot of prep work,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of timing, like we.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: Talked about, like you say, and you could do everything right,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: Like let's say you waited until after your normal last
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: frost and you're good to go, and you go through
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: and then a weird phenomenon weather event happens next thing,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: you know, Debt, Yeah, it.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: Used to be.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: We've talked about it before, but there were thirteen weeks
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: in the spring where garden centers were open. Yeah, and
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: they sold plants and after that you couldn't get out
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: dark plants anymore. Yeah, it was just like if you
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: haven't planned by now, what's the point.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: That's why you guys that Frank's told other items, right,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I could told.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: You all winter. You know it was women.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Bloomers, garments, bloomers.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: And uh Frank's bloomers.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Frank's bloom all kinds of irregular clothes.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Some more parachutes. Yeah, yeah, are we good?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Well are I think it's you? I won't ask now
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: off the area. You can explain to me why this
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: is happening.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: The questions, Well, you know, yeah, yeah, I can explain.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: But what I did say is it's because of the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: way we're shooting it now, and it's because you're not
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: opening it under the business suite, like meaning you're opening
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: it as Facebook as all of our other listeners are
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: watching right now, where normally when I open it, I
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: open it under the business suite, which is which.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Gives us different view of the comments.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: But it has to do with the way we're shooting
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: that's why, you know, And there's other people I said, oh,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: I can't see all the comments, and you know, and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: it's only popping up on the top part of the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: screen or and it's because of the way we're shooting
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: the show right now, is what's creating that problem. You
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: know where Brian is watching it on a computer, so
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: he has a whole dialogue.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: On the right side because it's on the computer.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but if you're watching it on a phone right now,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: and probably even a tablet, it's a different view.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: So what do you think next week?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Do you do?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: You want to give it a shot at your place? Yeah,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: let's do it all right then go that would be fun.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: You're guarding America in my house?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, in the backyard there, yep, WiFi is
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: right there, cameras and everything.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, we're going to give it a shot. It's
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: not too far from the station. That's the beauty. Oh
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: it's close. Yeah, right up the road, make a left,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, I'll get directions again.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: I I'll get you all set up.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that'll be next week. That'll be fun. That'll
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: get people a completely different, outlooking view of what you're
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: doing back there.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be good.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: One thing we haven't talked about on Roses yet. If
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: you're in warm climates. This false great time to plant
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: new rows.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: Yes, and it's great to get roses because they're usually
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: on sale. I mean the ones that you find. Your
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: selection is limited, but the prices is.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: That like buying a barbecue right now? Yeah, same thing.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: Hey it was five hundred bucks last week. Yeah, two
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: fifty like buying fruit trees. Yeah, you know that's what's
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: so funny. But you know, seasonally what we can do gardening.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like those the barbecues you see at
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: home people, right, they're on sale now, they've drastically reduced.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: We're probably gonna have good weather for a while.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. We're very different than like, you know, the
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: back people there, like you say, packing up, putting it
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: all away, and we're like, no, we still got four months, three.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Hundred bucks off that barbecue. I can probably use this
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: through January.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: And cold climates.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: You don't want to be planning roses, no, because they're
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: not going to have time to get established before winter
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: and they're just going to freeze. I did want to
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: make a comment about you know, we recommended that people
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: go to YouTube and look up the rose starting videos, right,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes I have to admit I have
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: an elitist attitude. What's your style? Yeah, you know, I
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: try to fight it, but you know, first my first
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: thing is to criticize. But there's some younger people on
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: there doing videos and it's like I listened to the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: video and the guy who did it, actually he did
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: a good job explaining how to to go through and
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: take rose cuttings and root them. And I would say
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: he's he was probably maybe ten years younger than Tiger,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: so young guy, but he did a good job. But
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: as he's going through the greenhouse, he goes, we're going
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: to propagate roses today, and look at this yellow one.
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  Speaker 4: This is beautiful, and then here's a red one, and
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  Speaker 4: then there's a there's a white one. And it's like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a rosearian would never say their colors. It's like,
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  Speaker 4: what's the name of Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's a like just like a basic yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then he'll make a comment like, but we won't
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  Speaker 4: rop we won't propagate any that our copyrighted. As well,
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  Speaker 4: you don't copyright or rose. You only cop cop for
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  Speaker 4: copyright books or literature trademark.
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  Speaker 3: Well here's something else too, I've ever gone to YouTube.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: You just want directions on something right, go, oh good,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: this is how you put together this chair. As an example,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: it takes him ten minutes to get to the actual
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  Speaker 3: instructions because he's busy trying to be a YouTube star. Hey, Hi,
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  Speaker 3: how you doing. I just came back from the store.
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  Speaker 3: My wife and I going to make dinner, and I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: know we got this nice chair. You probably wonder how
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  Speaker 3: to put it together. It's like, okay, just get to it, go,
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  Speaker 3: go go. I just want you to just tell me,
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  Speaker 3: just tell me how to how to do it. And
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  Speaker 3: occasionally you'll find someone who gets to the points two minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Here's how you do it now now, John, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: can you.
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  Speaker 5: Like take a cutting from a rose and propagate it
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  Speaker 5: and just not sell it, or is it completely illegal
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  Speaker 5: to take a trademarked rose and reproduce it.
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  Speaker 4: You can reproduce trademark roses all you want, you just
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  Speaker 4: can't sell them as under that name. They could sell them.
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  Speaker 4: And but for instance, a lot of people will grow
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  Speaker 4: David Austin roses and they don't have a license from
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: David Austin to grow it.
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  Speaker 3: So if it's we're going to take a break real quick,
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  Speaker 3: we'll come back. Don't lose the train of take the break.
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  Speaker 3: You have to remind me I will trademark roses growing propagation.
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  Speaker 3: One more segment. Do stay with us on BizTalk Radio
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  Speaker 3: Facebook Live.
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  Speaker 2: This is Garden to America. If we are back.
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  Speaker 3: If you had a good break, thank you for tuning
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  Speaker 3: in those on Bisktalk Radio. As we wrap things up
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  Speaker 3: another edition just prior to the break, you want dard
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  Speaker 3: in America trademarking roses, growing roses, propagating roses. John said,
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  Speaker 3: you could grow all you want. You just can't.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if they're trademark and you wanted to tell Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and let's take a David Austin Rose. Let's the squire.
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  Speaker 4: You could not sell it as the squire, but the
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  Speaker 4: breeder name is all Austin Roses. They have a breeder
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  Speaker 4: name that's a US some maybe a US squire. You
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  Speaker 4: could call it a US squire and sell it as that,
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  Speaker 4: and people could go and look up what Rose is
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  Speaker 4: that they go, oh, this is this is the square.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I want.
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  Speaker 4: So you could go ahead and sell it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm not trying to I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 2: cut out what doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: But what you cannot do is a patent patent, did
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  Speaker 4: rose you own the to that? And no one can
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  Speaker 4: uh take cuttings. And as a matter of fact that
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  Speaker 4: the patent usually says that a sexual reproduction is prohibited,
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  Speaker 4: so that means you're not supposed to root it, you're
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  Speaker 4: not supposed to start a new one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, everybody bides by that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I was just trying to kind of point
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  Speaker 5: out that, you know, not to scare people, because you
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  Speaker 5: know a lot of people you know, might you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, be worried about whatever they're doing. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: as long as you're not selling it, if you're just having.
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  Speaker 4: It for your your idea, it's still illegal. But yeah, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: nobody knows you're breaking.
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  Speaker 5: Well, what I'm saying patented patented, it's you're saying it
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  Speaker 5: easily right. But if you're saying, like a trademark one,
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  Speaker 5: it is not illegal to profit trade is.
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  Speaker 4: Just the name, Yeah, it's only the name is trademark, okay.
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  Speaker 4: And the reason people trademark instead of patent, because patent
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  Speaker 4: gives you complete protection is it's much easier to and
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: cheaper to trade trademark. You can go and I've trademarked
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  Speaker 4: plants myself and you can do it through the United
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  Speaker 4: States Patent and Trademark Office online. Well, once you get
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  Speaker 4: used to it, it's not that difficult to do. But
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: for a patent you almost need a patent attorney.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got to go.
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  Speaker 3: Through and those last points so many years and then
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: everybody can jumping on it for.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: Twenty years on plant pat Plant patents are different than
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  Speaker 4: regular pat but.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, but you know, yeah, if you were
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  Speaker 5: going around and selling them or trying to make money
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  Speaker 5: off of them, it's different. But if you're just doing
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  Speaker 5: it because you want to try it out and have
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: it at your home, then you know nobody's nobody's coming around.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think your general attitude is that laws are
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: made to be broken. If you're not hurting anybody, just
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: go Ahead's.
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  Speaker 2: That is definitely not anybody. Yeah, we all know what
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: I do. As I travel.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: It's like like speeding on the freeway and nobody's there.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: There's no traffic and it's two o'clock in the morning.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: It's only wrong if you get caught. Yeah, oh man,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure I didn't miss you.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Addressing Carlo's question, when's the what's the last Carla question
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: that you addressed.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, Carlos said she had one morning. She promised it
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  Speaker 4: was the last one.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what it is?
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  Speaker 4: And I wanted to hold answering it because I'm not
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: sure I believe that promise. But no, you know, we're
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: happy to answer questions all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sure of course.
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  Speaker 6: And she has a rose called land lust land of lust, No,
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  Speaker 6: land Lust, land lusty land land.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's like a night glove day. This is a rose,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I believe it.
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  Speaker 4: It's called land lust, and I think it has another another.
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  Speaker 2: Name, land less, like there's no land or land lust
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  Speaker 2: lust with a tea it the yet.
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  Speaker 4: Right, okay, right, But it has another name also, which
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: is I'm forgetting. But she says it sends out really
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: long canes and they're not rootstock, and she wants to
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: know she can prune them off, you know, don't prune
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: them off if it's not rootstock. Just cut them back,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: you know, to the rest of the bush and it'll
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: it'll put out stems.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Is that it will be more of a vining rose,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: you know it.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: Some roses are like that, depending on the climate they're in.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: I usually call them semi climbers. And depending on the
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: time of year, they'll put out on canes like that.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: But you can cut those, cut those back, got it
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: doesn't hurt the plant to cut it back. Trying to
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: think of what the name was. I think it was
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: more of a tropical name.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: What oh the original name for that one?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I think Landlust is the original name, but I
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: think it's being sold under something else.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Hawaiian land, blush.
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  Speaker 4: Tropical Hawaiian land.
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  Speaker 2: You said tropical name, Oh pa Penia, Colada, landlus No,
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  Speaker 2: land bless is not even in the name, Oh bummer,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: I'll is just land or just less.
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  Speaker 4: You're confusing me exactly.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: As he's I can see his mind punch as he's
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: punching on his phone and then thinking to do something.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like when I'm starting the show and
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: you guys are.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Talking and you haven't heard from Target for ten minutes.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: We're trying to read his facial expressions.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Are we on the air?
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: Is that could they're a problem?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: You know it's in I'm on help me find and
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: it's not in there. Landlust is, but it doesn't.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: Doesn't have the other one, the other name that any
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: look on mm hm.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: Did you finish watching twilet Zoom with your kids.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Not finish, but we've watched some more. Yeah, it's do
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: you know, do you know where the term jumping the
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: shark came from?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, it came from Happy Days. It came from Phonzie
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: when he actually jumped the shark when he was waterskiing
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: at the end. I think by that time Ron Howard
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: had left the show. A lot of people had left,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: and it was like it was like, you know, what
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: you should have You should have shopped last season, like
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: like when a series goes too long.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you should have stopped before you jumped the jump
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: the shark.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: And so you know, we watched some more of the
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: Twilight Zones and you know, Twilight Zone, I don't think
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: you ever jumped the shark because it started off already
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: jumping the shark, you know, meaning.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Like you know, you know what, you get what I'm saying. Yeah,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: so you know, but we've definitely got to a point
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: where they're like seeing some remakes or some same morals, Yes,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: just put it in a different way, right exactly.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: So they get on another planet.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so they get kind of will start one and
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: they're like, I don't want to finish this one.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, we already know what's what. Hey, we got we
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: gotta wrap up here. So yeah, this is it.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: So next week, Wait a second, we haven't had the
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: time where the show closes down for a.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: No, we're going to close it down this week. Yeah,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: So next week at Tiger's House, look forward to that.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be fun. We should have a good hook up.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: We'll get there early, we'll set things up. So enjoy
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: the rest of your weekend, have a great week.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: And thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate.
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  Speaker 3: This is Garden America. I'm Brian Maine, John Magnascar, Tige Pella,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: Fox Biz Talk Radio. Till next week, have a safe
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: one and we'll do it again next week, I assume
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: from your backyard, right Tiger. All right, there you go,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: Garden America. Take care till next week. From Tiger's House.