Latest / Drinkin‘ Bros Podcast / Episode 1717 - Fake Polls Exposed!
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- 1:17[SPEAKER_04]: good for you.
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- 1:21[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to stay positive about these midterms.
- 1:23[SPEAKER_04]: Got some positive news this morning here.
- 1:26[SPEAKER_04]: It's another wild one.
- 1:27[SPEAKER_04]: A few months ago on the old program here, we talked about fake polls.
- 1:34[SPEAKER_04]: We're less than two weeks out now exactly 13 days from the midterms.
- 1:39[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody had created just a fake website.
- 1:42[SPEAKER_04]: It's all they did, fake poles, and then they got caught.
- 1:47[SPEAKER_04]: Now, this one is different.
- 1:50[SPEAKER_04]: This is a site called Wedgewood Poles, and Blueke brought this to our attention earlier here.
- 1:57[SPEAKER_04]: It's actually a chatter who initially brought it up.
- 1:59[SPEAKER_04]: Was it really?
- 2:00[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 2:00[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody in our own is.
- 2:02[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly in the chat right now.
- 2:03[SPEAKER_04]: It's Zachary Zimdars.
- 2:05[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Zachary.
- 2:06[SPEAKER_04]: We appreciate it, man.
- 2:08[SPEAKER_04]: We appreciate when you guys send these in.
- 2:10[SPEAKER_04]: This is a wild one because this probably could have kept going if they didn't get caught.
- 2:18[SPEAKER_04]: I saw you reading a DM, Luke.
- 2:21[SPEAKER_04]: Can you put that on screen there?
- 2:23[SPEAKER_04]: Who reached out to this place and said, hey, your numbers aren't correct.
- 2:30[SPEAKER_04]: As I want to say, it was just like a fucking normal.
- 2:33[SPEAKER_04]: It's like mainstream media or anything, right?
- 2:37[SPEAKER_02]: It was like an online publication.
- 2:40[SPEAKER_02]: I can find it once again.
- 2:41[SPEAKER_04]: OK.
- 2:42[SPEAKER_04]: But nothing big.
- 2:44[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't like ABC, NBC, CBS, all that other shit, however, Dan.
- 2:51[SPEAKER_04]: all these big name groups reading uh... New York Times used it uh... m snow which i know is your favorites and uh... cnn had used these guys polls and they weren't real
- 3:03[SPEAKER_14]: Um, now that was, uh, you're talking about the one from two months ago.
- 3:06[SPEAKER_14]: No, this one, uh, because media, the, if you're curious about looking into the other one, it's, it was called media and strategies.
- 3:13[SPEAKER_14]: That's it.
- 3:14[SPEAKER_14]: Um, and then today's is what Westwood, there were the ones that ran, the poll showing, um, Karen Bass and the lead by a lot, uh, Francesca Hong and the
- 3:28[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, this new one is called Wedgewood.
- 3:31[SPEAKER_14]: Wedgecock or something.
- 3:32[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know what it would.
- 3:33[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, but yeah, this one's this one's got a different wrinkle to it.
- 3:37[SPEAKER_14]: So it's definitely.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_14]: They're definitely fake.
- 3:42[SPEAKER_14]: But this time there was a reason for it and it wasn't a social experiment apparently.
- 3:48[SPEAKER_04]: It was not a social experiment.
- 3:49[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
- 3:51[SPEAKER_14]: maybe that's what they call it.
- 3:52[SPEAKER_04]: That's what they're calling it.
- 3:53[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, that's what they're calling it, but social experiments don't typically go on to prediction markets and use their social experiment to influence the prediction market and then make bets.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_04]: So what are we talking, calcium here?
- 4:06[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_04]: All right, Fox is chatting about it now.
- 4:11[SPEAKER_04]: They're going live.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_04]: I just think you the video,
- 4:13[SPEAKER_04]: uh... we'll get the details here right away uh... you had it this was given instant credibility cross the board press play god damn it uh... blue stand by you mother fuckers blue you know i can hear it over there it's just coming out of your computer not uh... to the audience but uh... yet the the fake polling there you go
- 4:40[SPEAKER_04]: Everyone, that real quick.
- 4:41[SPEAKER_01]: Including being some fake data.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_01]: It was picked up by a number of outlets, including the New York Times.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_01]: Wedgewood writes this on X.
- 4:49[SPEAKER_01]: Our fabricated numbers were given instant credibility across national media platforms, including being cited on air and in reporting.
- 4:56[SPEAKER_01]: Wedgewood polling was never intended to sway an election or permanently mislead the public.
- 5:00[SPEAKER_01]: It was designed as a wake-up call.
- 5:02[SPEAKER_01]: And Josh Holmes joins us now.
- 5:04[SPEAKER_01]: Josh.
- 5:06[SPEAKER_01]: This is quite ridiculous in a way, but also I don't think it's super time that this has happened.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think it adds to people feeling very skeptical about polling.
- 5:16[SPEAKER_01]: How do you see it?
- 5:19[SPEAKER_00]: You're absolutely right, Dana.
- 5:20[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually the second time in this cycle.
- 5:22[SPEAKER_00]: We saw it in Wisconsin in that primary early on with an outfit called median polls.
- 5:27[SPEAKER_00]: What was so interesting is they got their hand caught in the cookie jar by 50 plus one when they started asking questions about their methodology.
- 5:35[SPEAKER_00]: And instead of just copying to a fake poll, what they did is try to create this illusion that all of this was a social experiment.
- 5:42[SPEAKER_00]: And nobody should have taken it seriously, but of course they did and included it in polling averages.
- 5:48[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a victimless crime.
- 5:49[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you from running center races for 20 years.
- 5:53[SPEAKER_00]: This is an incredible problem that you have on the campaign.
- 5:57[SPEAKER_00]: If it was just, if had no contagion effect whatsoever, it'd be fine, because all of the general consultants and all of the campaigns know exactly where they're at.
- 6:06[SPEAKER_00]: That's no problem.
- 6:07[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is, when you get these fake polls out in the public, what happens is fundraising starts to dry up,
- 6:15[SPEAKER_00]: They create and sort of blunt any momentum a campaign would have with artificial data.
- 6:22[SPEAKER_00]: And it becomes really important as a campaign to try to counteract all that is aggressively as you possibly can.
- 6:28[SPEAKER_00]: You see, people always fighting about where the polls and where the numbers are.
- 6:32[SPEAKER_00]: They wouldn't be if it didn't have a contagion effect.
- 6:35[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, that's exactly what Wedgewood did with these polls where they pulled all of these Senate races and low and behold all the Democrats were winning except for one in Mississippi.
- 6:44[SPEAKER_00]: where they had an improbably close race in one that we know that there's a far bigger spread.
- 6:50[SPEAKER_05]: It's an amazing thing to me.
- 6:52[SPEAKER_05]: How quickly we forget what the pre-election polling
- 6:55[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can kind of write there.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_04]: I'm looking at the numbers here.
- 6:59[SPEAKER_04]: So here's where they had actually posted.
- 7:02[SPEAKER_04]: Taloreco plus two in Texas, Brown plus four in Ohio, Abdul Elsaid plus six in Michigan, Kansas had Hamilton plus two, and then Maine had Troy Jackson plus four.
- 7:19[SPEAKER_04]: Can you not be sued for this?
- 7:26[SPEAKER_14]: That's a great question.
- 7:28[SPEAKER_14]: So you've got to be able to show standing and damages to sue somebody, but did any campaigns specifically pay them to conduct these polls or they do it by themselves and put it out as fake information?
- 7:44[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know that there's any law about that.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_14]: They're not a news organization.
- 7:47[SPEAKER_14]: They're not on broadcast television.
- 7:49[SPEAKER_14]: So the who exactly would be the governing body over them lying on the internet.
- 7:57[SPEAKER_14]: People fucking lie on the internet all the time.
- 7:59[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so they have a pinned tweet that's still pinned somehow.
- 8:03[SPEAKER_02]: That says interested in sponsoring an upcoming poll.
- 8:06[SPEAKER_02]: We'd love to work with you.
- 8:07[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's a good question.
- 8:10[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
- 8:11[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good question.
- 8:12[SPEAKER_02]: Did anybody take that bait?
- 8:13[SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
- 8:13[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll say that was the question.
- 8:15[SPEAKER_14]: If they lied on a pole that they were engaged in a contract with somebody with, yes, obviously you've got a case, but otherwise do I don't know.
- 8:23[SPEAKER_04]: What's to stop anybody including us from making our own poles?
- 8:29[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I do.
- 8:30[SPEAKER_14]: Well, but like all the time, what's what's to stop Elon Musk from running a Twitter poll and knowing that 60% of the fucking traffic is bots.
- 8:39[SPEAKER_14]: But yeah, yeah, yeah, and people look at that and make a decision that it's kind of on you to decide if something's real or not.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_02]: Who popped these guys in the, in the, yeah, so the website that popped them is a 50 plus one, which I think is a, a 538 spin off.
- 8:57[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and so this guy, who was the journalist who did it, he posted a DM that wedge would pull sent him like a couple minutes before he posted a article, they said, our official response to your article, fuck you and then something's redacted.
- 9:18[SPEAKER_04]: I was gonna say I hope it's a slur man.
- 9:20[SPEAKER_04]: I'd be great.
- 9:21[SPEAKER_04]: I'd even take a chink today.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_14]: Oh actually somebody hold on let me find it
- 9:29[SPEAKER_02]: Plus, the journalist name is one of what?
- 9:31[SPEAKER_14]: M3 Pookey in the chat said, yo, sub slurs.
- 9:37[SPEAKER_14]: And I like that, because it lets everyone know that you're calling them the slur that applies to them without having to go through it.
- 9:46[SPEAKER_14]: Not that you wouldn't want to say them, because who doesn't want to say them, but just for brevity's sake and brevity's the soul of wit, obviously.
- 9:59[SPEAKER_14]: I'm going to start doing that.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_14]: What's up, slurs?
- 10:02[SPEAKER_14]: People are like, what are you talking about?
- 10:03[SPEAKER_14]: Like, the slur for you, the slur for you, the slur.
- 10:06[SPEAKER_14]: I'm not going to explain this again because the whole...
- 10:08[SPEAKER_14]: fucking purpose is to save time and you just wasted it.
- 10:11[SPEAKER_04]: What's up, my slurs?
- 10:13[SPEAKER_04]: I like that.
- 10:13[SPEAKER_04]: I like that a lot.
- 10:14[SPEAKER_04]: What's up, my slurs?
- 10:16[SPEAKER_04]: And that does apply to everyone.
- 10:18[SPEAKER_04]: It's an inclusive way using slurs.
- 10:19[SPEAKER_04]: I like that.
- 10:20[SPEAKER_04]: I agree, but, uh, Bluek, back to that's DM.
- 10:24[SPEAKER_04]: Do they immediately come out right afterwards?
- 10:27[SPEAKER_04]: After they got caught for this article and say, surprise, this was all fake.
- 10:32[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so their response was this wedge wood polling public statement.
- 10:38[SPEAKER_02]: They said wedge wood polling and experimental project to demonstrate the vulnerabilities lack of oversight and overall low barrier to entry in the modern polling industry makes this public statement.
- 10:49[SPEAKER_02]: And so this is how far they went.
- 10:51[SPEAKER_02]: They said, despite having no history, formal credentials are real data behind the vast majority of our releases, which would polling was added to major polling aggregators, including New York Times, 50 plus one, and vote hub, and repeatedly treated as a legitimate data source.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_02]: Our fabricated numbers were given instant credibility across national media platforms, including being cited on air and reporting by outlets, such as MS now.
- 11:16[SPEAKER_02]: the msno.
- 11:17[SPEAKER_02]: msno.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
- 11:19[SPEAKER_02]: The ease with the which up unverified figures were absorbed in the mainstream political narratives, how it's a systemic breakdown in media vetting and data aggregation.
- 11:30[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, this is just bananas because the next question is how much do they put on
- 11:41[SPEAKER_04]: because people are posting calcium and polymarket everywhere.
- 11:45[SPEAKER_04]: Their odds is if this is gospel, which you and I know that it is not.
- 11:50[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, anybody that knows what those sites are, know that it's not, it's, and calcium doesn't represent themselves as being that, it knows it's a prediction market that you're predicting against other people.
- 12:03[SPEAKER_14]: That's what it is.
- 12:05[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I don't know.
- 12:06[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, well, here's where things get wild for us, okay?
- 12:09[SPEAKER_04]: And I know we're on Patreon today, so bear with me.
- 12:11[SPEAKER_04]: I apologize.
- 12:13[SPEAKER_04]: But Kelsey's sponsoring our election show, from a code drinking, we'll get you a $25 trade for a $25 trade there.
- 12:23[SPEAKER_04]: Reason I'm telling you this is because I personally am going to be trading a lot that night.
- 12:29[SPEAKER_04]: Because I don't believe
- 12:35[SPEAKER_04]: I really don't, and you're just predicting against other people.
- 12:40[SPEAKER_04]: So therefore, you can win a fuck ton of money if you just believe.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_04]: in what you're doing in your states or what's going on in the world and right now there's a lot of fake shit out in the world right now and a lot of these odds on how she do not make sense to me they really don't and they're so fucking high dude I'm going to go with all right who's your lock that somebody that that they've been listening is an underdog is my comments okay my crowd I mean either one I think my Rogers are going to get better odds
- 13:15[SPEAKER_14]: to close.
- 13:16[SPEAKER_04]: So go to calcium.
- 13:17[SPEAKER_04]: Look at that one up.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_02]: So, Rodgers.
- 13:23[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 13:24[SPEAKER_02]: And Michigan.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 13:26[SPEAKER_02]: So, I'll say it as a 60 70% right now 70 to 30.
- 13:31[SPEAKER_02]: And the polling on calcium's website is 48.
- 13:33[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say
- 13:39[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really, that's closer than I thought then.
- 13:41[SPEAKER_14]: What's the one that's got the biggest gap?
- 13:43[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, dude, I still, what is it?
- 13:45[SPEAKER_04]: 70, 30?
- 13:46[SPEAKER_04]: So if you place money on Rogers, and he wins, you're gonna win a shit ton of money, dude.
- 13:51[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, but there's a bigger one.
- 13:53[SPEAKER_14]: What's the, what was the bigger one?
- 13:54[SPEAKER_14]: Actin?
- 13:54[SPEAKER_14]: Is it Amy acting?
- 13:55[SPEAKER_14]: Amy acting?
- 13:56[SPEAKER_14]: I think it could be, uh, I think that one's going to go.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_14]: Tell the Rico, tell the Rico's way up there.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_14]: I think acting is the biggest gap.
- 14:03[SPEAKER_14]: I think she wasn't, she liked 74% of the people.
- 14:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that sounds right to me, I can check.
- 14:11[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, I don't know.
- 14:11[SPEAKER_14]: We can take a look.
- 14:12[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, her own mom could probably answer that question.
- 14:15[SPEAKER_14]: Well, she's the one that was beaten her to death or whatever, right?
- 14:17[SPEAKER_14]: Her old childhood or was that the dad?
- 14:19[SPEAKER_14]: Uh, her dad raped her when she was 12.
- 14:23[SPEAKER_02]: What was that?
- 14:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what, that's what the whole thing is that.
- 14:26[SPEAKER_14]: That's what her claim is and then the brother backs it up and the mom, I mean, look if that's true and the mom is out there saying it never happened, what a fucking piece of shit she is.
- 14:34[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, yeah.
- 14:35[SPEAKER_14]: But yeah.
- 14:36[SPEAKER_14]: And then if you're claiming it happened and it never did, what a piece of shit you are.
- 14:39[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody is a piece of shit.
- 14:41[SPEAKER_02]: They're saying that like, she broke off contact with her mom after her mom stayed with her dad after raping her.
- 14:49[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, that would do it.
- 14:51[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I do it for most people.
- 14:52[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Amy Acton is at 48.5% and Vivek Ramaswami is at 44.2%.
- 15:01[SPEAKER_04]: So, like for example, I'm taking that one.
- 15:04[SPEAKER_04]: That's another one I'm taking for the underdog.
- 15:08[SPEAKER_04]: What about Talorico in Texas?
- 15:11[SPEAKER_04]: Now that we know these guys are put in fucking pump and money in there.
- 15:15[SPEAKER_04]: Because by the way, if you're at home and you're asking why they're doing this, they're trying to scare you from not voting.
- 15:22[SPEAKER_04]: Like that's what it is.
- 15:23[SPEAKER_04]: Like the numbers look so high, it makes you feel at home.
- 15:25[SPEAKER_04]: Like, oh, hey, I'm a Republican.
- 15:27[SPEAKER_04]: My vote doesn't matter in Texas, Michigan, or Maine.
- 15:32[SPEAKER_04]: And those are the numbers I really want to see because then this would swing wildly here.
- 15:40[SPEAKER_04]: uh... yet so talerico in the polls is that forty eight point five percent can't pass is that forty six point one percent okay and then what is calcier have it uh... the calcier prediction is uh... sixty three percent james talerico again you would win a fuck ton of money off of that so and how much is so much is in it right now uh... thirty four point five mil stop it
- 16:05[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, that is up triples.
- 16:07[SPEAKER_04]: Since the last time we looked at that maybe two weeks ago, I think it was at 11, dude.
- 16:13[SPEAKER_04]: So if you're telling me, people aren't coming in and throwing in money to scare you out of this shit because, and I'll say this for the thousands time on the show.
- 16:21[SPEAKER_04]: I actually watched the real news, both local and mainstream every single night.
- 16:25[SPEAKER_04]: They are using calcium poles on television and treating them like they're real.
- 16:31[SPEAKER_14]: Well, I don't know, some people are doing that.
- 16:36[SPEAKER_14]: even from an honest position, people are trying to use them as a reflection of public sentiment, which is what a poll is supposed to be, right?
- 16:47[SPEAKER_14]: But it's only public sentiment if each person could only bet one dollar, right?
- 16:56[SPEAKER_14]: That would be a reflection of something.
- 17:02[SPEAKER_14]: um... caveats who are with a standard poll which is how many people participated in what makes them participate exactly versus not participating because not participating is not a neutral act which is the problem all these polls are having even the ones that claim to be true um... but yet it's not i mean if you're able to go on a bet ten thousand dollars that it's that's like um...
- 17:30[SPEAKER_14]: If Vegas, this is the difference.
- 17:32[SPEAKER_14]: Everything gets handicapped in Vegas by people that know what the fuck they're doing.
- 17:38[SPEAKER_14]: They know what the fuck they are doing.
- 17:42[SPEAKER_14]: And if they don't, they shut it down.
- 17:43[SPEAKER_04]: And then they go and figure it out the next day.
- 17:45[SPEAKER_04]: It just happened last night.
- 17:46[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, they're really, really good.
- 17:48[SPEAKER_14]: Vegas handicappers are so good.
- 17:50[SPEAKER_14]: It's like four or five dudes in Vegas.
- 17:51[SPEAKER_14]: They're gonna do all of this.
- 17:53[SPEAKER_14]: And they're, they're,
- 17:55[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know who, like, what their fucking deal is, what talent that is, but they know.
- 18:00[SPEAKER_14]: So you're starting from a baseline that lives in reality somewhere, and then people bet, and you can based on the bet and you can tell what public sentiment is there, but that's not reality for politics, right?
- 18:11[SPEAKER_14]: Because it's all emotional.
- 18:12[SPEAKER_14]: It starts emotional and it finishes emotional.
- 18:16[SPEAKER_14]: And it starts manipulated and finishes manipulated.
- 18:19[SPEAKER_14]: Whereas, you know, typical sports gambling, for example, doesn't.
- 18:23[SPEAKER_14]: It starts with four or five dudes who know everything.
- 18:28[SPEAKER_14]: They know what fucking color socks the kicker is going to wear.
- 18:31[SPEAKER_14]: And they're great at their jobs.
- 18:33[SPEAKER_14]: They're the best in the world.
- 18:34[SPEAKER_14]: They may be better at their jobs than anybody else in the world is at their jobs to be honest.
- 18:39[SPEAKER_14]: That's how consistently good they are.
- 18:42[SPEAKER_14]: That's just not how it is for a market like that.
- 18:45[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, I don't know how the an interesting question for Couchy would be, how do you decide the first number you put up before people start gambling or before people start placing their... Oh, I asked them.
- 18:59[SPEAKER_04]: I'd say a onboarding call with those guys.
- 19:00[SPEAKER_04]: Like how, what's the 50-50s?
- 19:02[SPEAKER_14]: That's it.
- 19:03[SPEAKER_14]: So that's not reality, right?
- 19:05[SPEAKER_14]: Because it wasn't a 50-50 chance at the beginning.
- 19:09[SPEAKER_14]: For any race.
- 19:11[SPEAKER_14]: That's not true.
- 19:11[SPEAKER_14]: It's not true that there's a 50-50 shot in any race.
- 19:15[SPEAKER_14]: Maybe some small fraction of races are true, 50-50s, but when you're handicapping something like that, and politics is not true.
- 19:25[SPEAKER_14]: Like the Abbott versus whoever, because nobody knows his person's name, he's running against in Texas, is not 50-50.
- 19:34[SPEAKER_14]: it never was.
- 19:35[SPEAKER_14]: So if they started out 50 50 people are going to make their predictions and it immediately starts skewing one way or the other right when I mean 50 50 I mean both candidates started zeros that's right so yeah but that's not reality right I don't think it's really but that that's not what they're doing this isn't a polling company is a prediction market right but it's different than sports gambling a lot oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
- 20:01[SPEAKER_14]: the people that start out like no there's you're not going to find a college football game that starts out zero zero and then gets affected only by the the bets that are made and cows cheese different starts at 50 50 and then the predictions start moving things apart.
- 20:18[SPEAKER_14]: So using it this is the problem this it's a methodology problem if news organizations are using this as a serious
- 20:25[SPEAKER_14]: check on public sentiment and they're fucking dumb because that's not what it is.
- 20:29[SPEAKER_14]: It is a prediction market and people that know more just like by the way just like sports gambling people that know more probably gonna do a little bit better.
- 20:36[SPEAKER_14]: And there's gonna be some element of luck in sports where in politics it's not really luck unless your guy does something dumb, says something dumb, right?
- 20:45[SPEAKER_14]: Then there's an element of luck to that because you can't plan for it but in sports it could be a guy's foot is an inch out of bounds.
- 20:53[SPEAKER_14]: and it changes the fucking game or changes the score of the game because there's a line on it.
- 20:58[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 20:59[SPEAKER_14]: So that's like, these are way, way different.
- 21:01[SPEAKER_14]: And using it as a feature of public sentiment doesn't make sense to me because that's not what it is.
- 21:09[SPEAKER_14]: It is interesting.
- 21:11[SPEAKER_14]: It's interesting.
- 21:12[SPEAKER_14]: I'm sorry, using it as anything other than a reflection of public sentiment is madness.
- 21:23[SPEAKER_14]: it's interesting for sure.
- 21:24[SPEAKER_14]: But then it would only be a true reflection of public sense.
- 21:28[SPEAKER_14]: It's somewhat of a reflection.
- 21:30[SPEAKER_14]: It would only be a true reflection if everybody could only bet one or wager whatever the fuck predict one dollar on each thing, right?
- 21:38[SPEAKER_14]: Because it would be one for one.
- 21:39[SPEAKER_14]: Otherwise, like even on a sports gambling site,
- 21:44[SPEAKER_14]: If I go bet anything over $10,000 on a single bet, it's changing the odds at least a little bit.
- 21:53[SPEAKER_14]: That's just how it works.
- 21:55[SPEAKER_14]: That's how it works.
- 21:56[SPEAKER_14]: Like you, it is an algorithm-driven line.
- 22:00[SPEAKER_14]: And the more people that dump into a pool, like the algorithm is built to make sure the house doesn't lose too much money.
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- 29:16[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's sports gambling.
- 29:17[SPEAKER_04]: I remember, uh, Notre Dame Ohio sticks at a shit ton of money on that.
- 29:22[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, that national championship, uh, the year before last and that line move from 10 and a half to eight and a half because Notre Dame fans were betting on it.
- 29:30[SPEAKER_04]: And we got the house on that one ton of money and all that other stuff.
- 29:33[SPEAKER_04]: But, uh, again, this is totally different.
- 29:36[SPEAKER_04]: Who did you just show the guy from Ohio?
- 29:38[SPEAKER_04]: I caught it out of the corner of my eye, Blue.
- 29:42[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, uh, uh, the Vekrogramma.
- 29:44[SPEAKER_03]: No, it was a hockey dude.
- 29:45[SPEAKER_02]: You know, are you talking about the Halshi account?
- 29:47[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
- 29:47[SPEAKER_03]: The Halshi account that's associated with Wedgewood.
- 29:50[SPEAKER_03]: We'll bring that up right here.
- 29:52[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
- 29:52[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
- 29:53[SPEAKER_02]: It's just dude.
- 29:53[SPEAKER_02]: So this guy's probably not real, right?
- 29:56[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, this is a fake guy.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_02]: This is a supposedly the guy, according to the journal, as you posted this, um, this is the guy.
- 30:04[SPEAKER_02]: This is the fake account that was a trading on Calshy based on Andrew.
- 30:08[SPEAKER_02]: Ohio 53.
- 30:09[SPEAKER_02]: This old man.
- 30:11[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 30:12[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously, I'm not a fake picture, but yeah, total return, 4700 bucks.
- 30:18[SPEAKER_02]: So, not terrible.
- 30:21[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's pretty good.
- 30:23[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's great for, you know, what if you're juice in the numbers?
- 30:27[SPEAKER_02]: I would expect a bigger return.
- 30:28[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 30:29[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 30:30[SPEAKER_04]: God, that's so fucking weird, man.
- 30:34[SPEAKER_04]: So, all of this was
- 30:38[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, fake.
- 30:38[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so they, uh, so he says here that, um, we are aware of individuals collaborating on a discord server for online election election, election walk washers who bet on politics for a living.
- 30:52[SPEAKER_04]: Whoa.
- 30:54[SPEAKER_04]: So the question then becomes, did they know the right answers all along?
- 31:08[SPEAKER_04]: Man, this could be a way bigger scandal than we know here.
- 31:11[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think the primary goal of all this wasn't necessarily to influence the outcome of elections, although, I mean, that could have some effect, but it seems like, yeah, this was primarily a money-making scheme on their part.
- 31:24[SPEAKER_04]: Shit, dude.
- 31:25[SPEAKER_04]: But it's really awesome.
- 31:27[SPEAKER_04]: That's really only a count we know of.
- 31:30[SPEAKER_04]: Andrew, 53 of the old man, dude.
- 31:34[SPEAKER_04]: I might change that to my profile picture.
- 31:37[SPEAKER_03]: My fantasy football team there with Andrew Ohio 53.
- 31:40[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, I'm saying this is I personally love calcium, like I think it's endlessly fascinating what's normal people are just, um,
- 31:50[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I want to put predictions on to be honest with you.
- 31:53[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I really am fascinated by it.
- 31:55[SPEAKER_04]: And then I want to see what happens after the night of the mid-terms here because this Senate race, this is another one here.
- 32:02[SPEAKER_04]: I see it out of the corner of my ear, look, Democrats have a 66 chance of controlling the Senate.
- 32:07[SPEAKER_04]: I'm betting against that.
- 32:09[SPEAKER_04]: I'm betting against that.
- 32:11[SPEAKER_04]: So that'll be another one.
- 32:14[SPEAKER_04]: What's that dollar amount?
- 32:16[SPEAKER_02]: There's 73.8 million.
- 32:23[SPEAKER_04]: Oh boy, guys, that's a lot, man.
- 32:27[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I guess the question Dan for you is, has it become that big?
- 32:33[SPEAKER_04]: Or is that a party dumping in cash to make it look like their party is stomping the other one?
- 32:39[SPEAKER_02]: So if you put like a hundred bucks into saying that their public party is gonna win, and you won, you would win $273 dollars.
- 32:48[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's big, boy, money, dude.
- 32:54[SPEAKER_04]: Taking that all fucking date dude.
- 32:57[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
- 32:58[SPEAKER_04]: All right, just at first shits and gigs.
- 33:01[SPEAKER_04]: Pumped in a grand.
- 33:03[SPEAKER_04]: Put $1,000 in there, let's see this thing.
- 33:06[SPEAKER_04]: 2700, yeah, that's rock, that's fucking rock.
- 33:11[SPEAKER_04]: Now, Congress, I think we're gonna lose Congress, but,
- 33:14[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and if you're posting this everywhere and you're saying, I just sent you a clip from M. Snow, by the way, where the guy cited it live on air, because if you are using this for fucking cash or whatever, like, wow, nothing helps more than getting your fucking story out on national news, press play.
- 33:37[SPEAKER_13]: The latest polling from Wedgewood Polls shows Benson with a 10-point lead, which is outside the margin of error.
- 33:44[SPEAKER_13]: Our polling partner, 50 plus one, finds that Benson has a polling average lead of just under 8 points.
- 34:03[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so one of the people who was sort of a victim of these polls was, uh, Mallory of Moro, who was running against, uh, Abulosite in the primary.
- 34:14[SPEAKER_02]: And so this is her response because it's pretty damning if this is true.
- 34:19[SPEAKER_02]: She says, as one of the candidates featured in these polls, the infamous one and late June that showed me plummeting into single, single digits, which was at odds with our internals.
- 34:27[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the impact of this experiment.
- 34:29[SPEAKER_04]: And she's using experiment in air quotes.
- 34:31[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I like that.
- 34:32[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, donations dried up.
- 34:34[SPEAKER_02]: Volunteers were devastated and pleading for guidance on what to do.
- 34:38[SPEAKER_02]: Reporters hown did me with calls to drop out.
- 34:41[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, a point was proven, pulling is broken.
- 34:44[SPEAKER_02]: But tens of thousands of people poured their heart's time energy, hard, uh, heart and money into something they believed in for a year and a half.
- 34:51[SPEAKER_02]: And it was treated like a game.
- 34:53[SPEAKER_02]: Our volunteers gave their all.
- 34:54[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and then some,
- 34:57[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like I had let so many of them down.
- 35:00[SPEAKER_02]: Be extremely clear, Michigan Democrats are locked in to be microadders and will send up to a lot of said, tired to your center.
- 35:07[SPEAKER_04]: Go to that next paragraph, I'll read it.
- 35:09[SPEAKER_04]: Pumped it up, which we can crap like this, endless fundraising texts that drive supporters away with spammy, fake deadlines and trash, match claims, scam packs, run rampant for firms to grift without actually supporting candidates on disclose content creators,
- 35:26[SPEAKER_04]: out there misrepresenting themselves as residents of states that don't live in or hiding where they were paid and look all of this is a democratic problem so here that could easily be solved but but the other one I will say is dangerous I mean I fuck
- 35:45[SPEAKER_04]: If you're willing to cite these polls on MSNBC, how do you trust this guy?
- 35:51[SPEAKER_14]: Well, I mean, it shouldn't be, you're talking about wedgewood?
- 35:55[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 35:56[SPEAKER_04]: Well, this reporter, like this Ali, is that Ali Vesci guy?
- 36:02[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, he's a communist, but he's citing fake polls.
- 36:06[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, he's reading off a teleprompter.
- 36:10[SPEAKER_14]: He doesn't know anything.
- 36:11[SPEAKER_14]: Look at his face.
- 36:12[SPEAKER_14]: That's not the face of a man who knows things.
- 36:15[SPEAKER_14]: So here, what the fuck does, you know, you know, I think how many you certainly should, you certainly should look into it, but like how
- 36:27[SPEAKER_14]: What was the process of vetting for wedgewood polls?
- 36:31[SPEAKER_14]: That's a good question, right?
- 36:32[SPEAKER_14]: Like did anybody look at the underlying methodology and then you have to ask the follow-up question, does anyone look at the underlying methodology for any poll other than, let's say, 538 who's been notoriously wrong about them?
- 36:50[SPEAKER_14]: You know, not about whether they're legitimately trying or not.
- 36:54[SPEAKER_14]: to be fair, but whether or not they're actually accurate, 538 was good for one election cycle and then not.
- 37:05[SPEAKER_14]: Ever again, ever again, that was in 2012 and it's been a bunch of cycles since then he's not been accurate like that again.
- 37:13[SPEAKER_14]: So it's an interesting question.
- 37:16[SPEAKER_14]: It's an interesting
- 37:22[SPEAKER_14]: The job is to look into things, use all of your time, right?
- 37:28[SPEAKER_14]: You're 24 hours in a day.
- 37:31[SPEAKER_14]: To look into stuff that ordinary people don't have time to, and then tell them the truth about it, especially when that truth is exposing powerful people doing fucked up shit, or giving them information that they can make good decisions with, right?
- 37:45[SPEAKER_14]: And that's not what they do.
- 37:46[SPEAKER_14]: They just don't do it anymore.
- 37:48[SPEAKER_14]: So I don't know why anybody watches any that shit.
- 37:51[SPEAKER_14]: It's the reason people are shedding news media and just listening to
- 37:58[SPEAKER_14]: But shows like this because at least you can, you can hear the guy talk for an hour and kind of figure out what his methodology is and see, okay, maybe that's right, maybe that's not right.
- 38:09[SPEAKER_14]: You can get exposed to more new ideas, which is what you should be trying to do anyways.
- 38:13[SPEAKER_14]: But yeah, the news just like, it's not that they make shit up, they just like,
- 38:21[SPEAKER_14]: They basically just like scrape for information and then have somebody with a personality say it out loud.
- 38:30[SPEAKER_14]: And it, but there's no, like, sources.
- 38:33[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, there's no, like investigative journalism anymore.
- 38:36[SPEAKER_14]: No, there's a couple of people and dependent journalism that do some stuff like that, but really that's not.
- 38:46[SPEAKER_14]: uh, I don't think that's that big of the O either.
- 38:48[SPEAKER_14]: It's, it's not something that happens much anymore, unfortunately.
- 38:52[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, look, Nick Shirley was at the White House yesterday and they were talking about how one kid with one camera was able to go out and expose all of this fraud.
- 39:02[SPEAKER_04]: Even though Doge and Elon Musk actually did a lot of it first, uh, this kid had the brass to go up and fucking, you know, go town of town.
- 39:11[SPEAKER_04]: He with this motherfucker was in Paris during the riots too, by the way.
- 39:15[SPEAKER_04]: at footage was gnarly.
- 39:16[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this kid's very balsie, especially considering the statter.
- 39:20[SPEAKER_04]: He's, and he's talked about, you know, the death threats and all that other stuff, but, um, but he, he made changes, shit, he might get somebody out of Congress for Christ six with LNOMR.
- 39:32[SPEAKER_04]: Finally, people started digging around in that shit.
- 39:34[SPEAKER_04]: Well, they were digging around through the dumpster, uh, for her DNA.
- 39:39[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know if you've heard about that.
- 39:41[SPEAKER_14]: I did.
- 39:41[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 39:42[SPEAKER_04]: But in regards to what the brother, yeah.
- 39:46[SPEAKER_14]: No shit.
- 39:46[SPEAKER_14]: And what's the story with that?
- 39:50[SPEAKER_14]: The Attorney General says, it's a way deeper story than you expect and involves her family.
- 39:57[SPEAKER_14]: So I'm guessing that they're gonna be able to prove with DNA that that's her brother, that it was a sham marriage that she's tied to all sorts of fraud and that she was never eligible to be naturalized in the first place.
- 40:14[SPEAKER_14]: uh... so it's like multi it's layers of shit over twenty years that's gonna like you know we'll see will the wine company the uh... her and the husband had where they were sending out empty barrels yeah the attorney general says that it was shut down for fraud uh... what he what he means by that specifically uh... tbd and we'll see but i mean it seems like they've got a case
- 40:39[SPEAKER_04]: But go to your DM's here, Bluke, because it's shocking once you see this video.
- 40:45[SPEAKER_04]: This is Jacob Fry, the mayor up there, and Minneapolis.
- 40:51[SPEAKER_10]: One of the reasons that they were coming after you is they saw the kind of economy and entrepreneurship that you're helping to build.
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- 41:29[SPEAKER_04]: I think the Somalais he's talking about.
- 41:31[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it sounded like he had a Somalais set up the sound equipment.
- 41:33[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, sure did.
- 41:34[SPEAKER_04]: And there was the Somalais in the background of Potten.
- 41:37[SPEAKER_04]: Does somebody have a gun?
- 41:39[SPEAKER_04]: Are they hiding his kids?
- 41:40[SPEAKER_04]: Like, what is going on here with his bullshits?
- 41:44[SPEAKER_04]: I'm reading the numbers here.
- 41:46[SPEAKER_04]: Despite making up 2% of Minnesota's population, Somalais account for 90% of the fraud.
- 41:52[SPEAKER_14]: Just 2%.
- 41:53[SPEAKER_14]: That's better than 1360, isn't it?
- 41:55[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 41:57[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I, what the fuck, dude?
- 42:00[SPEAKER_04]: She's just Christ.
- 42:02[SPEAKER_04]: It's insane, man.
- 42:04[SPEAKER_04]: This fucking dude.
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- 42:08[SPEAKER_04]: That's never gotten old to me.
- 42:10[SPEAKER_04]: Just washing him with his hands and it just tastes awful.
- 42:15[SPEAKER_04]: And any just can't fucking get it all the way down.
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- 42:23[SPEAKER_14]: Don't worry.
- 42:26[SPEAKER_14]: They all have AIDS.
- 42:28[SPEAKER_14]: No, I'm good, bro.
- 42:29[SPEAKER_14]: Thanks.
- 42:30[SPEAKER_14]: You just like my AIDS food dude.
- 42:31[SPEAKER_14]: Don't need food from a place that hasn't figured out how to establish your civilization yet.
- 42:37[SPEAKER_14]: You poor little.
- 42:37[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it's not ready.
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- 42:41[SPEAKER_04]: You know, just to spice it up.
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- 42:44[SPEAKER_04]: That's what they do.
- 42:45[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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- 42:47[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
- 42:48[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
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- 42:50[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, dude.
- 42:52[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, but yeah, shit's uh, shit's wild right now.
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- 43:01[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to send you this story next, man.
- 43:04[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, blue.
- 43:04[SPEAKER_04]: This is just madness.
- 43:07[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely fucking madness.
- 43:08[SPEAKER_04]: Also, if you're watching this on Patreon, this is the blackest person I've ever seen in my life.
- 43:13[SPEAKER_04]: You can't even light this guy.
- 43:16[SPEAKER_07]: A Sacramento County man is accused of killing his wife, then claiming ICE agents took her deputy, say, jazz was last seen September 30th, her husband, Garinder Gill, seen there on your screen, allegedly told investigators, ICE agents detained her while she was checking the mail, but ICE says that never happened.
- 43:35[SPEAKER_07]: investigators say the couple was going through a divorce and child custody battle.
- 43:39[SPEAKER_07]: Jasmine's burned remains were found in El Dorado County.
- 43:42[SPEAKER_07]: Her husband was arrested Wednesday on murder charges and is now being held without bail.
- 43:52[SPEAKER_04]: She's dude.
- 43:53[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, fucking people out.
- 43:55[SPEAKER_14]: If you're going to accuse someone else of snashing up your wife, maybe do it to a personal organization who doesn't keep detailed records of the people because some local cop is going to some local murder investigators going to call
- 44:14[SPEAKER_14]: Um, ice or ERO or somebody, say, hey, did you guys apprehend this person here is the social?
- 44:20[SPEAKER_14]: Nope.
- 44:21[SPEAKER_14]: Cool, he murdered her because no one who didn't murder her says this.
- 44:29[SPEAKER_14]: But you know, this is, I'm telling you, 35 to 40% of murders get solved and it's mostly more ons.
- 44:37[SPEAKER_14]: So if you're out there and you're thinking about committing murder, go take an IQ test first.
- 44:42[SPEAKER_14]: Would number would you recommend anything over 120 you're good.
- 44:47[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and Sky definitely doesn't look like he's over 120 pretty good.
- 44:51[SPEAKER_14]: I think that who is that do the Colin Firth played in that series He it's it's the author from the name of the series from North Carolina He you're not furth your last
- 45:08[SPEAKER_14]: Now, uh, come and fuck, what is the name of it?
- 45:10[SPEAKER_14]: It was, uh, like old Peterson, Michael Peterson, yeah.
- 45:14[SPEAKER_14]: Um, that dude, I mean, he went jail for a while, but he ended up getting out of it, and
- 45:19[SPEAKER_14]: Uh, he definitely killed his wife this damn way.
- 45:22[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, if you've watched like the documentary is what it is, it can't, there's some doubt cast.
- 45:29[SPEAKER_14]: I like that one of his friends tried to convince people that a fucking owl colder.
- 45:35[SPEAKER_14]: Um, that was hilarious.
- 45:36[SPEAKER_14]: Um, but yeah, the whole, I mean, it just seems like from what I could tell that he definitely belonged in jail.
- 45:47[SPEAKER_14]: Um,
- 45:48[SPEAKER_14]: But who knows me.
- 45:49[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know.
- 45:51[SPEAKER_14]: Uh, I definitely don't know.
- 45:52[SPEAKER_14]: And he's a smart guy.
- 45:54[SPEAKER_14]: So he got out.
- 45:56[SPEAKER_14]: That's what I'm saying.
- 45:57[SPEAKER_14]: Even though he went for a while based on all the stuff that I've seen, it looks like he probably shouldn't have gotten out and he did.
- 46:05[SPEAKER_14]: So you just gotta like be an author.
- 46:07[SPEAKER_14]: That's it.
- 46:08[SPEAKER_14]: Be smart enough to write a book and you can murder people.
- 46:10[SPEAKER_14]: I think it's the is the trick.
- 46:13[SPEAKER_14]: uh... what is this blue this is the woman who is murdered on the uh... check yet so they made a uh... wait is this his go for me no i stole my wife i need seventy five thousand dollars now uh... yeah no this is her her family's uh... go for me i wonder what the uh... about the kid's at his daughter presumably yeah i would imagine what a fucking cond not the daughter i'm sorry
- 46:42[SPEAKER_14]: Man, I mean, I've never met her, so I wouldn't be able to tell you.
- 46:45[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it's true.
- 46:46[SPEAKER_14]: She could be an asshole.
- 46:48[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I don't understand that you didn't think that one through.
- 46:52[SPEAKER_14]: It's like, hey, ice is snatching people up.
- 46:56[SPEAKER_14]: But does that like, is that a result of him actually believing?
- 47:03[SPEAKER_14]: the propaganda that ISIS just kidnapping people and they disappear forever.
- 47:08[SPEAKER_14]: I would imagine so because how many public court cases have there been where people are suing the government because one of their family members or somebody else got snatched up or a judge is saying something.
- 47:19[SPEAKER_14]: And you think that that's actually, you still think that that's the reality.
- 47:24[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what you're gonna say in California it seems like a couple people think that's the reality because this is actually the second time that it happened in California Another Indian the other one.
- 47:33[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't found the name.
- 47:34[SPEAKER_03]: I think the other one was actually Mexican.
- 47:36[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, who's this broad?
- 47:38[SPEAKER_02]: So this is the woman who has murdered her mom.
- 47:41[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 47:42[SPEAKER_02]: What does she have to say?
- 47:46[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Sukwander Khar, the mother of Jasmine Gill, my daughter used to live in Sacramento, but she was subjected to a lot of policy.
- 47:54[SPEAKER_08]: They murdered her Emperor Bobby.
- 47:57[SPEAKER_08]: I request that my daughter's body be sent here.
- 48:01[SPEAKER_08]: I appeal to the government and police there to ensure my daughter gets to this.
- 48:07[SPEAKER_08]: You can't speak English?
- 48:09[SPEAKER_02]: I guess not.
- 48:10[SPEAKER_14]: But I don't know if we would have to make it happen.
- 48:13[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, she could be, I mean, over an India.
- 48:16[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 48:17[SPEAKER_14]: You can't tell because you can't smell video.
- 48:20[SPEAKER_14]: No.
- 48:21[SPEAKER_14]: Smell the video you would know where she was.
- 48:23[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 48:23[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 48:24[SPEAKER_02]: They're saying, she's barefoot.
- 48:27[SPEAKER_02]: You're saying what?
- 48:28[SPEAKER_02]: They're saying, help bring Jasmine's body's home, Jasmine's body home, which makes me think that that is not, I'm talking about America.
- 48:35[SPEAKER_04]: OK.
- 48:35[SPEAKER_02]: Does it say in there?
- 48:38[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a long article here for written by them.
- 48:42[SPEAKER_02]: Um, we cannot bring Jasmine back.
- 48:46[SPEAKER_02]: We cannot restore the future she deserves or take away.
- 48:49[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I can't tell if where they are because I think that would help.
- 48:54[SPEAKER_04]: That would probably not help the fundraiser if you were shipping it back to India, you know.
- 49:01[SPEAKER_04]: Now, if you were getting an earn or something,
- 49:04[SPEAKER_04]: like I would pass it off on that, maybe, but yeah.
- 49:07[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm guessing they must be raising money to ship her back to India because she was murdered over here.
- 49:12[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, they're probably just trying to repatriate her body, body.
- 49:15[SPEAKER_04]: How much is a magic carpet?
- 49:18[SPEAKER_03]: Well, these, yeah, they're not making it anymore.
- 49:20[SPEAKER_14]: So you can, is that, is that go fun me?
- 49:22[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 49:23[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 49:23[SPEAKER_14]: So that's not, you can start a US based go fun me from outside the country, how it does say Jasmine's mother is a single mother who worked full time as a nurse in India while raising Jasmine's mother.
- 49:36[SPEAKER_02]: So I imagine they're in India.
- 49:38[SPEAKER_14]: Okay.
- 49:38[SPEAKER_14]: Okay.
- 49:38[SPEAKER_14]: So,
- 49:41[SPEAKER_14]: that.
- 49:42[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, we're raising American dollars for, I mean, you know, it's, it's a sad situation.
- 49:47[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and anybody can do whatever they want with their money.
- 49:49[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I just, I, it's so odd to me, the last thing on my mind, because because sometimes it's like the kid, somebody's kid dies and somebody does a fundraiser.
- 49:59[SPEAKER_14]: What's, what's, what's the purpose of that?
- 50:01[SPEAKER_14]: You buying a new kid?
- 50:04[SPEAKER_14]: You know what I mean?
- 50:04[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know what you're talking about.
- 50:06[SPEAKER_14]: Like there was one where I can't remember what it was.
- 50:11[SPEAKER_14]: It was like a six-year-old died and the mom started a fucking go-fund me.
- 50:16[SPEAKER_04]: And that happens a lot.
- 50:17[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's just like, for funeral costs, I think, is what they usually say.
- 50:22[SPEAKER_14]: No.
- 50:23[SPEAKER_02]: Damn, Jasmine was seeking a divorce at the time.
- 50:27[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, Bluex, she didn't get murdered for no reason.
- 50:29[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and she wasn't, she wasn't acting a fool.
- 50:32[SPEAKER_04]: So that means there were signs.
- 50:34[SPEAKER_04]: Go.
- 50:35[SPEAKER_04]: So you're saying, she obviously had a common.
- 50:37[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 50:38[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this is Ace of Bays, dude.
- 50:40[SPEAKER_04]: Some of us, she saw the signs.
- 50:42[SPEAKER_04]: open number eyes and then try to get the fuck out of there.
- 50:46[SPEAKER_04]: What a weird fucking story, God damn it.
- 50:49[SPEAKER_04]: These Wednesday shows are always fucking weird.
- 50:52[SPEAKER_04]: And I think Homeboy just came home.
- 50:54[SPEAKER_04]: Remember that show we did about the worst WNBA trade of all time?
- 50:59[SPEAKER_04]: Stephen Hubbard?
- 51:00[SPEAKER_04]: Wasn't that the guy that was swapped?
- 51:03[SPEAKER_04]: He stayed and then they gave us Brittany Griner.
- 51:07[SPEAKER_14]: Um, I don't, it's this, yeah, there's some dude that's still there, uh, but Victor Bout is the guy who, um, that's, that's what we trade it.
- 51:14[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 51:15[SPEAKER_14]: But it's merchant of death and by the way, he's like in that circle with, um, Alexander Dugan, the Putin's brain guy who's a multi-polarity, uh, proponent along with Tucker Carlson, which is an odd combination, but, um,
- 51:31[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I don't know what that dude's name.
- 51:33[SPEAKER_14]: There's a journalist right who's still in Russia.
- 51:36[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I mean, look Let's see Steve what cough just met with a freed hostage.
- 51:41[SPEAKER_04]: So he's home.
- 51:42[SPEAKER_04]: That's How we get play this clip real quick?
- 51:49[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I believe this was the guy that stayed and Brittany Griner got to go free
- 51:54[SPEAKER_04]: Aaron Gorschka-Bitch was also released, I don't remember if that was during that crime.
- 52:00[SPEAKER_04]: Right, everything or not?
- 52:03[SPEAKER_12]: It's happening when you select President Putin.
- 52:05[SPEAKER_04]: And there was no swap whatsoever, which is interesting.
- 52:10[SPEAKER_04]: So he just put in just let him go, Trump and Putin had a call, and then he just let him go and...
- 52:20[SPEAKER_04]: Steve Whitkov said, uh, you talk so much about President Trump being a humanitarian.
- 52:26[SPEAKER_04]: You are a humanitarian officer and I salute that.
- 52:28[SPEAKER_04]: I commend you.
- 52:29[SPEAKER_04]: And I thank you.
- 52:30[SPEAKER_04]: And then he's talking to Vladimir Putin there.
- 52:34[SPEAKER_04]: Even this war is going to be over soon with all the shit that's suddenly popped up.
- 52:40[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
- 52:40[SPEAKER_04]: I mean,
- 52:43[SPEAKER_14]: The problem is the CIA, what's left of it is going to try to fight to keep Zelensky in there because that's their boy.
- 52:51[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, there's two things.
- 52:54[SPEAKER_14]: They want to keep the war going.
- 52:57[SPEAKER_04]: The CIA does so they can look at what drones and footage.
- 53:02[SPEAKER_04]: What are they trying to keep it going for?
- 53:06[SPEAKER_14]: Well, they want to bleed Russia, the same way that Russia tried to bleed us during Vietnam.
- 53:13[SPEAKER_14]: Okay.
- 53:13[SPEAKER_14]: And the same way that we tried to bleed Russia when they invaded Afghanistan and said it would just beat them.
- 53:21[SPEAKER_14]: You can read more about that and Charlie Wilson's war.
- 53:24[SPEAKER_14]: Not the movie, although it is mentioned at it, but read the book.
- 53:27[SPEAKER_14]: Um, but yeah, I think they're trying to do it again.
- 53:30[SPEAKER_14]: I think they're trying to bleed Russia again, because they think that from time, I think it's a lesson learned from rollback, actually, the latter period of the Cold War, where we kept doing stuff that,
- 53:44[SPEAKER_14]: Russia economically couldn't keep up with I think that was I think that was some of it.
- 53:49[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah So I feel like they're still doing it and there's a lot of competing interests.
- 53:54[SPEAKER_14]: There's this private contract interest at the agency too Boo's Alan Hamilton Number of other organizations who are making a shitload of money doing this stuff that don't want to lose contracts and blah blah blah It is just Russia.
- 54:07[SPEAKER_14]: It's all over the world.
- 54:08[SPEAKER_14]: It's Africa.
- 54:08[SPEAKER_14]: It's Haiti.
- 54:09[SPEAKER_14]: It's all over the place, but
- 54:12[SPEAKER_14]: There's a lot of competing interests.
- 54:14[SPEAKER_14]: The CI put this guy in a power, right, in 2014.
- 54:17[SPEAKER_14]: They started the process of it in 2014 with a color revolution.
- 54:23[SPEAKER_14]: And how much money have how many people made?
- 54:27[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, yes, you know, yeah, it's endless.
- 54:29[SPEAKER_14]: You got to, you got to consider that the military industrial complex, the all the billions and billions of dollars we've sent there most of it never left the U.S. just went to military contractor.
- 54:40[SPEAKER_14]: So, you know, they're incentivized to keep them there, but I think Trump wants him out.
- 54:45[SPEAKER_14]: That's the other competing interest.
- 54:46[SPEAKER_14]: He wants him gone and replaced with somebody.
- 54:50[SPEAKER_14]: Trump is obsessed with ending this war he and he doesn't think that Zelensky will do it because Zelensky's making a shitload of money Well, I think he was on or he called in to Fox and friends today.
- 55:01[SPEAKER_04]: It was he on there.
- 55:02[SPEAKER_04]: I went over to listen or sent this earlier Press play.
- 55:05[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't seen it by the way
- 55:07[SPEAKER_06]: Would you accept a peace deal that freezes everything the way it is right now?
- 55:12[SPEAKER_06]: Where you still keep 75% or more of your country?
- 55:16[SPEAKER_06]: Regardless of how it started, would you be, would you accept where it is right now?
- 55:23[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, right now we have two frees and I think this is real way to am this war.
- 55:30[SPEAKER_09]: We call it is bar or stop killing style, I present Trump called it frees and stop.
- 55:36[SPEAKER_09]: And of course, this is minimum what we need from Russia today, then of course we will go to President and to Europeans and ask security guarantees.
- 55:45[SPEAKER_09]: The most important is this and also security peace.
- 55:51[SPEAKER_04]: Would you, okay, that's that is shocking actually and this has gotten zero fucking traction in the media today But saying I'm I'm willing to keep 75% of my country and the war be over.
- 56:03[SPEAKER_04]: That's the first time I've ever heard that out loud out of his mouth.
- 56:06[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah
- 56:08[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, and you can't, like, I mean, old school days, frankly, we just clip the dude.
- 56:14[SPEAKER_14]: But that stuff doesn't work now.
- 56:16[SPEAKER_14]: It creates you much of a power vacuum, and I'm sure that the powers have been no more about what's going on on the ground there, power wise.
- 56:23[SPEAKER_14]: Like, there have been some direct conversations with other high ranking members of the Ukrainian government that looked as if they were bypassing Zelensky.
- 56:34[SPEAKER_14]: And, you know,
- 56:37[SPEAKER_14]: excuse me, for all the, for all the doting we do on him, Rubio still wants to, he wants to defeat Russia in China, communism in general, but Russia is, is grown beyond communism.
- 56:54[SPEAKER_14]: That's not what it is anymore.
- 56:56[SPEAKER_14]: It's not the red scare anymore.
- 56:57[SPEAKER_14]: It's Peter the Great again.
- 56:59[SPEAKER_14]: That's the, that's the issue.
- 57:00[SPEAKER_14]: It's like,
- 57:07[SPEAKER_14]: European dominance kind of situation.
- 57:09[SPEAKER_14]: And I know at a minimum, Putin wanted to regain our start to process at least the regaining a lot of the former Soviet satellite states.
- 57:22[SPEAKER_14]: And, you know, I don't think he's going to be able to do it to be honest.
- 57:25[SPEAKER_14]: I just don't think Russia has the economy forward, but
- 57:30[SPEAKER_14]: Well, we'll see.
- 57:31[SPEAKER_14]: And they've had to rely too much on Muslims in North Korea militarily.
- 57:36[SPEAKER_14]: They've kind of exposed their own weakness at this point.
- 57:39[SPEAKER_14]: So they're going to play another generation of spoiler at this point.
- 57:43[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 57:45[SPEAKER_14]: And I know he wants to defeat that Rubio does, and part of that is, like, keeping your crane in the fight, I don't know what the U.S. policy is on that.
- 57:55[SPEAKER_14]: I know Trump says that he's the elected commander in chief.
- 58:00[SPEAKER_14]: He says he wants it to end even at the current borders right now.
- 58:04[SPEAKER_14]: Okay, but does the State Department believe that does the agency believe that?
- 58:09[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know, and they've got just as much saying it as he does regardless of the fact that they weren't elected.
- 58:15[SPEAKER_04]: Interesting.
- 58:16[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because the way this all started off and I think we did the story on fake news.
- 58:20[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe Monday or Thursday of last week With Elon Asked him for Starlink and turn it back on and there's been a back and forth.
- 58:29[SPEAKER_04]: I knew Rubio said, hey, we've got nothing to do with it And now they're saying that Musk Did it on his own.
- 58:36[SPEAKER_04]: I don't believe that either, right?
- 58:37[SPEAKER_04]: I believe you know
- 58:38[SPEAKER_04]: Elon was probably in talks with Trump, but there's a new report out that says when the star shield got cut out, a shit ton of Ukrainian drones just fell out of the sky.
- 58:50[SPEAKER_04]: And I didn't consider that either.
- 58:54[SPEAKER_04]: You know, come and live on air and, uh, on Fox, if you're a Zelensky insane, yeah, man, I'll take 75% of my country can keep 25% and we can call it a day.
- 59:04[SPEAKER_04]: Here is pretty fucking stunning after four and a half years.
- 59:08[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, fuck, we're only, I don't know, three more months away from this being year five of this war.
- 59:15[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I mean, get a deal done and then and then get out of there.
- 59:19[SPEAKER_04]: I obviously mainstream media isn't going to pick this up because it's right before midterms.
- 59:24[SPEAKER_04]: They want to give any any credence to Trump and his role or whatever he's playing in this, but you're right.
- 59:32[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's obsessed with ending this fucking war.
- 59:34[SPEAKER_14]: Trump is for sure.
- 59:35[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I just don't know.
- 59:36[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, you got to keep a mind.
- 59:38[SPEAKER_14]: He's fighting.
- 59:39[SPEAKER_14]: He's ice-skating uphill against a very established enemy in the enemies within.
- 59:45[SPEAKER_14]: And they control the purse strings.
- 59:48[SPEAKER_14]: And frankly,
- 59:50[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know what Trump could do to stop funding Ukraine.
- 59:53[SPEAKER_14]: There's certain stuff within his purview, but as far as, and that would be a good, that would be a very interesting legal debate because Congress controls the purse strings, but the president controls foreign policy and Congress can declare war in the president can't, although the president can do special military actions, obviously we've super seen that right now.
- 1:00:18[SPEAKER_14]: That's a really good legal debate about who has the authority to do what exactly as it pertains to Ukraine.
- 1:00:24[SPEAKER_14]: And I don't know that that's settled to be honest.
- 1:00:27[SPEAKER_14]: And I don't know that for Trump for a guy like Trump, you don't want to overplay your hand on that, do you?
- 1:00:32[SPEAKER_14]: Because if you get smack down, make sure you look like an asshole.
- 1:00:35[SPEAKER_14]: And it also weakens you on the international stage, which he does not like.
- 1:00:38[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 1:00:40[SPEAKER_14]: What's that?
- 1:00:40[SPEAKER_14]: Is this what Koff talking to Putin?
- 1:00:42[SPEAKER_14]: Yep, Putin.
- 1:00:43[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 1:00:44[SPEAKER_14]: Press play.
- 1:00:47[SPEAKER_12]: He's a 75-year-old man, and you talk so much about my president, president Trump, being too bad, Terry.
- 1:00:56[SPEAKER_12]: You want to be a part of your panitarian, also, sir.
- 1:00:59[SPEAKER_12]: I feel that I commend you when I thank you again.
- 1:01:05[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
- 1:01:06[SPEAKER_04]: That's probably not the greatest statement to make, you know?
- 1:01:10[SPEAKER_14]: Well, I mean, you know.
- 1:01:13[SPEAKER_14]: I read it dude, I guess everybody lies Rubio said something about the sea of the day so people need to grow up
- 1:01:18[SPEAKER_14]: there's three super powers with nooks and they have to talk to each other sometime.
- 1:01:23[SPEAKER_04]: I agree with that.
- 1:01:24[SPEAKER_14]: I saw that same.
- 1:01:26[SPEAKER_14]: I don't even know what it was in response to, but it's not, he's not wrong about that.
- 1:01:30[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know that Whitkoff calling P, a guy who throws people out of fucking a KGB, Carnal who throws people out of windows and planes, pergosions, plane just fucking fill out of this guy allegedly.
- 1:01:42[SPEAKER_14]: If you believe that's story.
- 1:01:45[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, a humanitarian, that's an odd choice of language, but, you know, everybody, everybody including Putin knows he's blowing smoke up his ass.
- 1:01:55[SPEAKER_14]: But it's like, that's for Russian citizens, that's for the Russian media.
- 1:02:00[SPEAKER_14]: That's why he said that was for their benefit.
- 1:02:02[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 1:02:03[SPEAKER_04]: No, I agree, and speaking of ass, I look, go to your DMs there.
- 1:02:07[SPEAKER_04]: Trump was talking about an answer earlier.
- 1:02:11[SPEAKER_04]: And it's a dude.
- 1:02:12[SPEAKER_04]: And I like this.
- 1:02:13[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we're starting to mix it up out there on the campaign trail.
- 1:02:15[SPEAKER_04]: We're heading down the home stretch.
- 1:02:17[SPEAKER_04]: You've got to get everybody involved to go out your gaze for Trump.
- 1:02:22[SPEAKER_04]: You've got to get them out to vote.
- 1:02:23[SPEAKER_04]: What did he say about this guy's ass?
- 1:02:26[SPEAKER_11]: And I'm studying his body.
- 1:02:28[SPEAKER_11]: I've never studied the body of a man before.
- 1:02:30[SPEAKER_11]: It's not my thing.
- 1:02:32[SPEAKER_11]: Nothing wrong with it, of course.
- 1:02:34[SPEAKER_11]: Nothing.
- 1:02:35[SPEAKER_11]: I always proceeded by saying nothing, Rome.
- 1:02:38[SPEAKER_11]: But it's never been my thing to be honest with you.
- 1:02:42[SPEAKER_11]: But I looked at his ass, and then I looked at his legs.
- 1:02:49[SPEAKER_11]: And I said, his ass is like,
- 1:02:52[SPEAKER_11]: It's like a pile of muscle that I looked at his legs and I said, man, his feet are big, that I looked at his shoulders and I tapped him on the shoulder and it actually hurt my hand.
- 1:03:06[SPEAKER_11]: It was like a piece of steel.
- 1:03:08[SPEAKER_11]: He said, this guy's a monster, and John Gordon told me that he was a violent, tackler of this.
- 1:03:15[SPEAKER_11]: But he never talked about it.
- 1:03:16[SPEAKER_11]: It was an all-American football player.
- 1:03:18[SPEAKER_11]: And by the time I finished with that story, he went from being 10 points down to being two points today.
- 1:03:24[SPEAKER_11]: A pole came out.
- 1:03:25[SPEAKER_11]: He's two points out.
- 1:03:26[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
- 1:03:29[SPEAKER_04]: After talking about his ass, who was he even talking about?
- 1:03:32[SPEAKER_04]: He was in Greenville, North Carolina.
- 1:03:34[SPEAKER_04]: It was here.
- 1:03:36[SPEAKER_04]: It was in Greenville, North Carolina.
- 1:03:38[SPEAKER_04]: But he's everywhere right now, like, so it's hard with Trump, he'll do three, four of these in different cities, states, all that other shit, man.
- 1:03:46[SPEAKER_04]: So who knows, but the sound bites you're going to get when somebody's doing this much are fucking hilarious, dude.
- 1:03:53[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know who this guy is, but I've got to see his ass now.
- 1:03:58[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I want to find out who he's talking about is or anything in the comments.
- 1:04:02[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that says this ass is this I mean, the first comment is the spirit of Lindsey Graham has consumed him which I think just means that he sounds gay But I'll try to find out who he's talking about It's a Senator Houston
- 1:04:23[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, when I go in vote.
- 1:04:24[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, Republican Senator John Houston of Ohio.
- 1:04:26[SPEAKER_04]: All right, let's see his fuck, oh, of Ohio.
- 1:04:31[SPEAKER_04]: Not North Carolina.
- 1:04:31[SPEAKER_04]: So he was talking about this guy, North Carolina.
- 1:04:35[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and Trump went funny on some reason.
- 1:04:36[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I mean, he's 60.
- 1:04:39[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see him.
- 1:04:40[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, go to Google here.
- 1:04:42[SPEAKER_04]: Luke, let's look him up, dude.
- 1:04:44[SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's see this guy's ass.
- 1:04:45[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see if he's full of shit.
- 1:04:48[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's 60 years old.
- 1:04:49[SPEAKER_04]: All right, I was not expecting this.
- 1:04:52[SPEAKER_04]: Press play or just click on the fucking family there.
- 1:04:55[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let's see the whole brood Yeah, he's pretty jacked for a 60 year old Yeah, all right, fucking I do he went to the University of Dayton.
- 1:05:07[SPEAKER_14]: Oh Go flyers, which is division three.
- 1:05:09[SPEAKER_14]: No, D3.
- 1:05:10[SPEAKER_14]: They won the division three football championship while he was there Really?
- 1:05:14[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, all right good for him dude.
- 1:05:17[SPEAKER_04]: Look at this fucking white old school American family
- 1:05:21[SPEAKER_04]: Man, you don't see that very often, you know?
- 1:05:23[SPEAKER_04]: Usually they, they feel like a black kid in the mix who's adopted or something like that.
- 1:05:27[SPEAKER_04]: This is your old school, Hunky Family right here.
- 1:05:30[SPEAKER_14]: And he grew up in Upper Arlington.
- 1:05:31[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know if there's any, oh, really?
- 1:05:33[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know if there's any black kids there.
- 1:05:36[SPEAKER_04]: No, there isn't.
- 1:05:37[SPEAKER_04]: That's where my friends live.
- 1:05:39[SPEAKER_04]: There's a couple Indians.
- 1:05:42[SPEAKER_04]: Shout out to Amherstiff, he's listening tonight.
- 1:05:43[SPEAKER_04]: Rich ones.
- 1:05:44[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, he's in medical sales.
- 1:05:47[SPEAKER_04]: He's doing fine.
- 1:05:48[SPEAKER_04]: He's doing just fine, up and up for our LinkedIn.
- 1:05:52[SPEAKER_04]: And it's a heavy, heavy Republican area, by the way.
- 1:05:55[SPEAKER_04]: So if he's from there, I mean, that was.
- 1:05:58[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it's he's gonna win.
- 1:06:02[SPEAKER_04]: I think so.
- 1:06:03[SPEAKER_04]: So what's he at there, the man with the ass of steel?
- 1:06:07[SPEAKER_04]: What's he had on calcium?
- 1:06:08[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's a 64 for the Democratic.
- 1:06:11[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, six for Johnny's.
- 1:06:13[SPEAKER_04]: No, who's the Democratic candidate?
- 1:06:15[SPEAKER_04]: The Democrats name is Sheridan Brown.
- 1:06:17[SPEAKER_02]: I think it might be Sherrod Brown.
- 1:06:20[SPEAKER_02]: Sherrod, it's a white guy.
- 1:06:22[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like, okay.
- 1:06:24[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's that guy.
- 1:06:25[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:06:27[SPEAKER_04]: Sherrod Brown and he's white, huh?
- 1:06:31[SPEAKER_04]: Whew.
- 1:06:32[SPEAKER_04]: I'm shocked.
- 1:06:33[SPEAKER_04]: At least, calcium is pictures here,
- 1:06:37[SPEAKER_04]: Black on that one.
- 1:06:38[SPEAKER_04]: I would say black.
- 1:06:40[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
- 1:06:41[SPEAKER_04]: Sharad Brown.
- 1:06:43[SPEAKER_04]: That's a fucking bold move.
- 1:06:44[SPEAKER_04]: Name in a white kid, Sharad.
- 1:06:46[SPEAKER_04]: Last name to Brown and his first name sounds Brown and now.
- 1:06:49[SPEAKER_04]: And he's got to walk around his whole life like that.
- 1:06:51[SPEAKER_04]: What's the real pulse say?
- 1:06:52[SPEAKER_04]: What do we got down there?
- 1:06:53[SPEAKER_02]: The real pole has a, which is just an average, a polling average.
- 1:06:57[SPEAKER_02]: Is this wedge wood?
- 1:06:59[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:07:02[SPEAKER_02]: Sherrod Brown, 47.8% in John Husted, 43.5%.
- 1:07:04[SPEAKER_02]: Now, give me Husted, give me Husted in Dad Astud for the victory there.
- 1:07:14[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna do a whole prediction show the day before and start checking these off.
- 1:07:20[SPEAKER_04]: Because this is another one.
- 1:07:21[SPEAKER_04]: This is probably gonna pay off at three to one too, right?
- 1:07:24[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 1:07:25[SPEAKER_14]: How, how black of a name do you have to have?
- 1:07:30[SPEAKER_14]: But far now before you get the pass.
- 1:07:33[SPEAKER_04]: I think Darnel's the, that's where I live on the name Darnel as your first name.
- 1:07:37[SPEAKER_03]: If you have an apostrophe, yeah, it was God's sake.
- 1:07:39[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, if you have an apostrophe in your name.
- 1:07:41[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 1:07:42[SPEAKER_03]: Like Dinesh De Souza, like he could drop in bombs all day, and I wouldn't know.
- 1:07:46[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't know.
- 1:07:46[SPEAKER_04]: If I didn't, if it wasn't so famous, it'd be like, all right, cool.
- 1:07:50[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but yeah, I would say I would start with an apostrophe.
- 1:07:54[SPEAKER_04]: That's a good one.
- 1:07:55[SPEAKER_04]: If there's an apostrophe in there, for sure, for fucking sure, you can say it all day.
- 1:08:02[SPEAKER_04]: If you can play basketball in the NBA, I think you're able to say it.
- 1:08:07[SPEAKER_04]: I really do it.
- 1:08:08[SPEAKER_04]: Like Cooper Flag, I think he should have the ability to say it if he wants to.
- 1:08:12[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, Yoke is definitely why they have a different word, but I'm sure it means the same thing.
- 1:08:17[SPEAKER_14]: What is it over there?
- 1:08:17[SPEAKER_03]: You want to look that up, Koop?
- 1:08:21[SPEAKER_03]: That's your world over there.
- 1:08:23[SPEAKER_03]: What language are we looking for a slurder for?
- 1:08:25[SPEAKER_03]: I'll just go to my dictionary.
- 1:08:26[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 1:08:29[SPEAKER_04]: What is the Ukrainian internet now?
- 1:08:31[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, check, check Republic or something like that.
- 1:08:36[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what they call them over there.
- 1:08:38[SPEAKER_04]: But they, God they love racism, too.
- 1:08:40[SPEAKER_03]: He's Serbian.
- 1:08:41[SPEAKER_03]: He's Serbian.
- 1:08:42[SPEAKER_03]: That's one in check.
- 1:08:44[SPEAKER_03]: It's very close to what we say here.
- 1:08:47[SPEAKER_03]: It's really, really.
- 1:08:48[SPEAKER_03]: In EGR.
- 1:08:50[SPEAKER_02]: N-E-G-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R
- 1:09:15[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if you said he was serving, I can't even begin to pronounce this, but it's CR NGA.
- 1:09:22[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I call him ninjas.
- 1:09:23[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
- 1:09:24[SPEAKER_04]: See, uh, NGA, see, uh, NGA.
- 1:09:28[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there was a great Chappelle sketch way back in the day about who came up with the end word and why and God, it's funny and shit, dude.
- 1:09:38[SPEAKER_04]: From 20 years ago, it was not a sketch, excuse me, it was in a stand-up routine and it was really, really fucking funny.
- 1:09:46[SPEAKER_04]: I think he was, was that old HBO show, dude?
- 1:09:53[SPEAKER_04]: It was really old.
- 1:09:55[SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking like 25 years.
- 1:09:57[SPEAKER_04]: Like, it's not, it's not show time to be Apollo, but they're version of it, HBOs.
- 1:10:02[SPEAKER_03]: I like a little stage and everything.
- 1:10:04[SPEAKER_03]: No, back in those days, I think the only thing I was familiar with on HBO was taxicab professionals.
- 1:10:09[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was, he was great in that too.
- 1:10:11[SPEAKER_03]: You know, just chucking dick in the, in the front seam.
- 1:10:15[SPEAKER_04]: I love taxi-capped confession.
- 1:10:16[SPEAKER_03]: That show is so fucking weird.
- 1:10:18[SPEAKER_03]: We don't have that anymore, dude.
- 1:10:20[SPEAKER_03]: We should do a watch along about Sunday.
- 1:10:21[SPEAKER_03]: Just one episode.
- 1:10:23[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if those Robo Taxis for Tesla are going to be like that.
- 1:10:27[SPEAKER_03]: You know, people doing a bunch of weird shit in there.
- 1:10:29[SPEAKER_04]: Because they don't, they wouldn't think.
- 1:10:31[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, dude, nobody's driving the car, right?
- 1:10:34[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 1:10:35[SPEAKER_04]: So...
- 1:10:37[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
- 1:10:39[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I guess you can technically do whatever you want, right?
- 1:10:41[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 1:10:41[SPEAKER_04]: Could you jack off to one of those things?
- 1:10:43[SPEAKER_14]: I wouldn't recommend it.
- 1:10:44[SPEAKER_14]: I think it'll stop because it has AI, so it'll stop.
- 1:10:47[SPEAKER_14]: If you're doing something weird, one guy, it noticed he had a gun, so it locked the doors and stopped the car.
- 1:10:53[SPEAKER_14]: No way.
- 1:10:54[SPEAKER_14]: I think it was an AR, actually, and he was, indeed, heading to do some fucked-up shit, but that's the Maya I will never take one.
- 1:11:02[SPEAKER_14]: really because obviously you've always got a gun.
- 1:11:05[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, but, um, wow, I wonder if you could jerk in that or have sex in it.
- 1:11:11[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
- 1:11:11[SPEAKER_14]: I would stop the car and pull over and call the cops.
- 1:11:13[SPEAKER_02]: What did really?
- 1:11:14[SPEAKER_02]: That was that one video that, uh, that Elon retweeted, I think that was two people having sex in a Tesla and autopilot.
- 1:11:22[SPEAKER_02]: You remember that?
- 1:11:23[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
- 1:11:23[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 1:11:24[SPEAKER_02]: But that's a different story.
- 1:11:25[SPEAKER_14]: That's their own.
- 1:11:26[SPEAKER_14]: It's not a taxi.
- 1:11:27[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 1:11:28[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know that that's even illegal.
- 1:11:30[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, I don't think it is.
- 1:11:32[SPEAKER_03]: I think that would be that'd be like exposing yourself in public.
- 1:11:35[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it could be considered reckless driving also.
- 1:11:38[SPEAKER_04]: Well, she was on top of him, and his eyes were still on the road, I don't even know if the sensor would go off at that point, you know?
- 1:11:47[SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, if he can still keep his eyes on the road, then more power to him.
- 1:11:50[SPEAKER_04]: Now, this picture you have up here, Blue, is that's from TaxiCab confessions.
- 1:11:56[SPEAKER_04]: This is how we used to do it, but we were here.
- 1:12:00[SPEAKER_04]: Is that guy armless in the back seat?
- 1:12:02[SPEAKER_04]: She's riding.
- 1:12:05[SPEAKER_02]: I think missing his arm.
- 1:12:06[SPEAKER_02]: I think her leg goes up like this and then his arm is right there.
- 1:12:11[SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe that's for leg.
- 1:12:12[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, that's that's his arm.
- 1:12:13[SPEAKER_03]: You can see the sleeve going down to the elbow.
- 1:12:15[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, gosh, you got your gutting and the skirt.
- 1:12:17[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going behind him.
- 1:12:19[SPEAKER_04]: I thought he had a stump there and that would have been fun.
- 1:12:21[SPEAKER_04]: You know, because you're definitely going to keep an eye on that for sure there.
- 1:12:26[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, the old taxi cap confession show was amazing, dude.
- 1:12:31[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure and we're not we're probably hours away from somebody's shit in one of those robot taxis from Tesla at this point, you know, we're all getting there.
- 1:12:40[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, quick update on that too.
- 1:12:42[SPEAKER_04]: We talked about this on fake news that Elon was going to give away a share of space access to everybody and how that was going to happen.
- 1:12:50[SPEAKER_04]: Apparently, it's going to be through Trump accounts.
- 1:12:52[SPEAKER_04]: So they'll put it to every child who is registered for Trump accounts, we'll get a SpaceX.
- 1:12:59[SPEAKER_04]: And then SpaceX is apparently exploring a merger with Tesla, and then they're they're possibly pitching the name Elon Inc.
- 1:13:10[SPEAKER_04]: So it's going to get wild.
- 1:13:12[SPEAKER_04]: But they just had their first report after the IPO came out and they were up 112% yesterday.
- 1:13:18[SPEAKER_04]: So whatever the fuck he's doing, he's doing.
- 1:13:23[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, did Trump thank him for this?
- 1:13:24[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
- 1:13:25[SPEAKER_04]: It says a big thank you to our legendary friend Elon Musk for his incredible generosity and giving space a stock to millions of American children through Trump accounts.
- 1:13:33[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly what was envisioned when we created Trump accounts bringing together the great private sector, Elon and so many more to invest in our children by far our greatest and most important asset.
- 1:13:45[SPEAKER_04]: And give every American child a piece of the American dream.
- 1:13:52[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, he better get started soon, then, because if you're bringing in 112% profit in your first quarter, this stock is gonna go through the fucking roof.
- 1:14:04[SPEAKER_04]: Look that up today, what is SpaceX up today?
- 1:14:08[SPEAKER_04]: Does that could be pricey?
- 1:14:11[SPEAKER_04]: By the time if you're gonna get that in a Trump account,
- 1:14:15[SPEAKER_04]: And do you have to pay for that or is it just free?
- 1:14:18[SPEAKER_04]: Trump, because they're free.
- 1:14:19[SPEAKER_04]: I know I know that, but like the stock, does it just register your child and get a free share?
- 1:14:23[SPEAKER_04]: We're good to question, I don't know how that works.
- 1:14:24[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because I'm looking at it, it's just what 163, that's what the stock is worth today.
- 1:14:30[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it went up 10% overnight.
- 1:14:33[SPEAKER_04]: All right, so let's do this.
- 1:14:35[SPEAKER_04]: Just as a fun little game here real quick.
- 1:14:37[SPEAKER_04]: Look up when Amazon, what the Amazon IPO was, and how much that one share would be worth today.
- 1:14:46[SPEAKER_04]: What would one share of Amazon be worth?
- 1:14:49[SPEAKER_04]: And today's world, and that all kind of give you a thing, because I believe the Trump accounts, you gotta keep the money in there until the kids 18 years old.
- 1:14:59[SPEAKER_04]: So if you were gonna do this, I think Amazon's probably the best one to go against.
- 1:15:03[SPEAKER_03]: Amazon's IPO was $18 per share.
- 1:15:06[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it closed at 2350.
- 1:15:08[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it was so one original share of Amazon from 1997 IPO has turned into 240 shares today due to four spot stocks splits with Amazon's stock closing at 262.63.
- 1:15:21[SPEAKER_02]: That single initial IPO share is worth $63,000.
- 1:15:23[SPEAKER_02]: Holy fuck holy shit.
- 1:15:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
- 1:15:33[SPEAKER_04]: He's just got me on the shun, right?
- 1:15:34[SPEAKER_04]: What the fuck?
- 1:15:35[SPEAKER_04]: What year was that?
- 1:15:36[SPEAKER_04]: That's 27 in the year I was born.
- 1:15:38[SPEAKER_04]: Look at you, Brooke.
- 1:15:39[SPEAKER_04]: If your parents would have just got you one share of them.
- 1:15:42[SPEAKER_04]: If your parents loved you, they don't.
- 1:15:46[SPEAKER_04]: They obviously don't, man.
- 1:15:47[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, who, you know, can't blame him.
- 1:15:50[SPEAKER_04]: Who am I on this?
- 1:15:50[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
- 1:15:52[SPEAKER_04]: That is, so what was the, how much was it again?
- 1:15:57[SPEAKER_04]: $93,000?
- 1:15:58[SPEAKER_04]: $63, $63,000.
- 1:15:59[SPEAKER_04]: Fucking hell dude.
- 1:16:00[SPEAKER_04]: That's still a shit ton of money.
- 1:16:02[SPEAKER_04]: for that, for one share, and that was at $18 for Christ's sake.
- 1:16:06[SPEAKER_04]: So like, dude, I don't know, with SpaceX, who knows how far that can go.
- 1:16:12[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, shit.
- 1:16:13[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're thinking 18 years from now when that kid's first going to be able to get their hands on it.
- 1:16:17[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and if they merged with Tesla and all the other cool shit they're doing, because they said in the reports that it was mostly driven by AI.
- 1:16:27[SPEAKER_04]: And they were offering grock with SpaceX.
- 1:16:29[SPEAKER_04]: So that was that was kind of the tie in there.
- 1:16:33[SPEAKER_04]: God knows how much that would be worth.
- 1:16:34[SPEAKER_04]: Dude, the Trump accounts thing could be really fucking cool.
- 1:16:38[SPEAKER_04]: Um, for real.
- 1:16:39[SPEAKER_04]: And if more business owners get in and start doing this, um, it could be really fucking cool.
- 1:16:45[SPEAKER_04]: But, uh, you got to convince everybody to get in and, and for Elon, I, the, I'll ask the question that we'll get out of here after this.
- 1:16:57[SPEAKER_04]: Is this the most important American we've had in our lifetime?
- 1:17:02[SPEAKER_04]: Um, African American technique.
- 1:17:04[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, thank you.
- 1:17:05[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much.
- 1:17:05[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to take that away from them.
- 1:17:11[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you look at the wars and shit.
- 1:17:13[SPEAKER_04]: You look at everything that they need them for.
- 1:17:15[SPEAKER_04]: Is there a more valuable individual and American, our current American history?
- 1:17:25[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, Jorge Soler is not American.
- 1:17:27[SPEAKER_14]: He's a big reason to raise one of the world's series a couple of years ago.
- 1:17:30[SPEAKER_14]: So allegedly, I was in a coma.
- 1:17:34[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I don't know, he's, I don't like where all this is going, because with Elon or Jorge so there, he's doing fine.
- 1:17:46[SPEAKER_14]: I think it's a matter of fact, the British would resign in, but they're the, I think that we should be establishing a sovereign wealth fund that
- 1:17:58[SPEAKER_14]: does whatever it can to displace taxes instead of trying to create ubi, which is what this these Trump accounts.
- 1:18:06[SPEAKER_14]: And I mean, it's just a new version of social security.
- 1:18:10[SPEAKER_14]: It's a new retirement plan funded by the government.
- 1:18:13[SPEAKER_14]: Why do you want another one?
- 1:18:14[SPEAKER_14]: The first one fucking sucked.
- 1:18:17[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
- 1:18:18[SPEAKER_14]: And even like bringing in people and partially funding it by private investors like that who are benefiting from the government.
- 1:18:25[SPEAKER_14]: I get that.
- 1:18:26[SPEAKER_14]: make it a sovereign wealth fund that pays for the government, not one that pays people back money that was taken from them.
- 1:18:36[SPEAKER_14]: Let everybody fucking make the money they want without paying taxes on it and do it that way.
- 1:18:41[SPEAKER_14]: Why are you convinced to do it this way that has a government footprint in people's lives where they collect $19 and give you back 10.
- 1:18:51[SPEAKER_14]: That's the general math on that.
- 1:18:53[SPEAKER_14]: Why?
- 1:18:54[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Elon is saying that due to AI, they're, you know, we'll be forced to have UBI.
- 1:18:59[SPEAKER_04]: Just a stupid thing to think.
- 1:19:01[SPEAKER_04]: Crowger just cut one third of its corporate workforce and said it's gonna do
- 1:19:07[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, 33% good in the next three years as it adopts AI hell yeah fucking get rid of useless bureaucrats and employees and make them go find jobs that Actually benefits society instead of just fucking hiring eight people to do the work of three That's what corporate America has done for years.
- 1:19:25[SPEAKER_14]: It's what the government is done for years
- 1:19:28[SPEAKER_14]: that go find a job that where you actually contribute something, right?
- 1:19:33[SPEAKER_14]: Because, uh, and stop thinking about fucking UBI and shit like that.
- 1:19:39[SPEAKER_14]: It's stupid.
- 1:19:40[SPEAKER_14]: It's a stupid idea.
- 1:19:41[SPEAKER_14]: We'll not work for this country.
- 1:19:43[SPEAKER_14]: We won't work for any country, actually, but it definitely won't work for this country.
- 1:19:48[SPEAKER_14]: If the government wasn't taking 40 to 60 percent of your income and when you include property taxes and sales tax, it comes out to about 40, it comes out to the high end about 63 percent right now.
- 1:20:02[SPEAKER_14]: Then you'll have plenty of money to live your life.
- 1:20:05[SPEAKER_14]: When the government's not regulating the shit out of everything because it's trying to protect you from yourself, then you don't have to fucking make $250,000 a year just to live a normal life.
- 1:20:15[SPEAKER_14]: Right, the money that you're making right now would do it.
- 1:20:19[SPEAKER_14]: The government needs to get the fuck out of the way.
- 1:20:21[SPEAKER_14]: And if it can do that, by instead of taking money from private corporations and the taxpayer and then giving some of it back to us to offset their stupidity, no, put it into a sovereign wealth fund and then use that as a revenue generator to fucking pay what taxes we're doing before and leave us the fuck alone.
- 1:20:43[SPEAKER_14]: Man, who runs the sovereign wealth fund?
- 1:20:45[SPEAKER_14]: The government runs it, just like it does in Norway.
- 1:20:49[SPEAKER_14]: One point, was it in $1.7 trillion sovereign wealth fund?
- 1:20:52[SPEAKER_02]: That sounds right to me.
- 1:20:53[SPEAKER_14]: Or it may be over two now.
- 1:20:54[SPEAKER_14]: It's huge.
- 1:20:56[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it can offset a huge amount of taxes.
- 1:20:58[SPEAKER_14]: And then the corporate people that are profiting most off of everything else can handle the rest.
- 1:21:05[SPEAKER_14]: Simple.
- 1:21:06[SPEAKER_14]: It's very simple.
- 1:21:07[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, two point three.
- 1:21:08[SPEAKER_14]: Two point three now.
- 1:21:09[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, holy shit.
- 1:21:10[SPEAKER_14]: It was 1.7, like two years ago.
- 1:21:13[SPEAKER_14]: God damn.
- 1:21:14[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, the difference between one and two trillion is a lot.
- 1:21:17[SPEAKER_14]: I know what does it sound like, one, two, oh, one up by one.
- 1:21:21[SPEAKER_14]: That's the one trillion.
- 1:21:23[SPEAKER_14]: Not a definitely does.
- 1:21:23[SPEAKER_14]: That's a lot of fucking, I don't know, my God.
- 1:21:25[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's definitely does for sure.
- 1:21:27[SPEAKER_02]: And yet they still have a highest fuck taxes.
- 1:21:30[SPEAKER_04]: And now I Trump was talking about a abolishing taxes earlier today.
- 1:21:35[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a sales, it's a fun speech.
- 1:21:36[SPEAKER_02]: Where would the profits from these AI companies go into this sovereign wealth fund?
- 1:21:41[SPEAKER_02]: Is that kind of how would we go?
- 1:21:43[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 1:21:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:21:45[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so the people who would build the companies wouldn't be getting the profit from it?
- 1:21:50[SPEAKER_14]: So Norway doesn't have high-spoke taxes.
- 1:21:54[SPEAKER_14]: By the way, their average, like, effective tax rate goes from 1.7 to 17.8%.
- 1:22:04[SPEAKER_14]: The corporate tax is a little high, but the corporate tax feeds into the, into the sovereign wealth fund.
- 1:22:11[SPEAKER_14]: So businesses that are making a lot of money are paying higher taxes.
- 1:22:20[SPEAKER_14]: but not even that high.
- 1:22:21[SPEAKER_14]: The corporate tax rate, there's way lower than it is in America.
- 1:22:24[SPEAKER_14]: So yeah, they're like the average citizen.
- 1:22:26[SPEAKER_14]: If you're a fucking lower middle class person, you're paying like 1.7 percent tax.
- 1:22:31[SPEAKER_02]: Maximum effective marginal tax rate on regular employment income reaches up to 47.4 percent.
- 1:22:37[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, but that's that's like for people making a good billion dollars and that's only in theory because they have the same tax incentives that we do.
- 1:22:45[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay.
- 1:22:47[SPEAKER_14]: You know, like the the the that taxes they have is like it's a consumption tax if you're rich and you're gonna go buy a bunch of fucking properties If you're gonna buy boats and all this other bullshit then yeah, you end up paying higher taxes But it's a consumption tax so you get to choose if you want to live a fucking normal life if you want to make 700,000 Crohn over a year you're gonna pay 4% taxes basically Which is I mean you do you should be allowed to do that there there's no reason we should be fucking praying on people look I don't pay fucking taxes
- 1:23:18[SPEAKER_14]: because I have a really good CPA and I own businesses.
- 1:23:21[SPEAKER_14]: People that own multiple businesses don't pay fucking taxes.
- 1:23:24[SPEAKER_14]: I'm telling you, not in any meaningful sense.
- 1:23:27[SPEAKER_14]: The only taxes I really pay are highest-fuck property taxes until I sell my fucking house in Texas, which I'm working on doing now.
- 1:23:36[SPEAKER_14]: But even then, I can write my property taxes off.
- 1:23:39[SPEAKER_14]: And now that I'm renting it, I can write off the fucking mortgage too and the property taxes and everything else.
- 1:23:44[SPEAKER_14]: Our tax system is a fucking joke, and it praise on people who make 50 to $150,000 a year.
- 1:23:51[SPEAKER_14]: Maybe even up to 250 at this point.
- 1:23:55[SPEAKER_14]: it's fucking crazy.
- 1:23:57[SPEAKER_14]: How brutalized that group who's most people by the way, most people live in the 50 to 250 K range get absolutely hammered.
- 1:24:07[SPEAKER_14]: Tax-wise unless you own it.
- 1:24:08[SPEAKER_14]: I'm talking about just a normal employee unless you own businesses.
- 1:24:12[SPEAKER_14]: Even if you're making half a mill a year, if you're just an employee at W2 employee somewhere, you're getting fucking taxes shit out of you.
- 1:24:18[SPEAKER_14]: The whole time.
- 1:24:19[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it's fucking crazy that where our tax system works.
- 1:24:22[SPEAKER_14]: They just don't have
- 1:24:24[SPEAKER_14]: in the U.S. We don't have an answer for it.
- 1:24:27[SPEAKER_14]: Norway's got a little bit better answer, but yeah, if you make half a million dollars a year in their currency and you're running around buying expensive cars and expensive boats, you're going to end up in 40%.
- 1:24:41[SPEAKER_14]: But that's if, right, if you do all that stuff, it's a completely different situation than what we're in now.
- 1:24:46[SPEAKER_14]: If you're just a normal employee,
- 1:24:49[SPEAKER_14]: here in America, at like a bank or something.
- 1:24:52[SPEAKER_14]: You're a senior VP at a bank and you're making $4 million a year.
- 1:24:57[SPEAKER_14]: You're getting fucking hammered by taxes and less.
- 1:25:01[SPEAKER_14]: You're figuring out ways to cut that all out, which they do, they're really good at it, right?
- 1:25:04[SPEAKER_14]: Because they're bankers.
- 1:25:05[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
- 1:25:06[SPEAKER_14]: But it's like ask a pro-athlete.
- 1:25:09[SPEAKER_14]: Ask a pro-athlete that lives in California.
- 1:25:12[SPEAKER_14]: and place half or more of their games in California because there's more than one team and every sport in California.
- 1:25:19[SPEAKER_14]: And most of them play each other every single year and your game check is based on the fucking location that you're playing in.
- 1:25:24[SPEAKER_14]: Ask somebody, ask anybody in hockey actually, they're all going to fucking the Florida Panthers now and the Tampa Bay Lightning because they don't pay income tax there because it's half your fucking paycheck.
- 1:25:34[SPEAKER_14]: There's a guy
- 1:25:39[SPEAKER_14]: on Twitter, who anytime somebody signs a new big contract, he does the tax breakdown for it based on the state they live in, and the games are gonna play the following year, and it is fucking crazy.
- 1:25:50[SPEAKER_14]: I know, how much they end up throwing away.
- 1:25:53[SPEAKER_14]: So you meet a guy who played in the league for like 10 years, and he made 30 million bucks or something like that, like damn, your rich is shit, he's like, well, not really, yeah, not really, because I played here and I played here and it fucking sucks.
- 1:26:05[SPEAKER_04]: Boomer of Science in the State of Asia eliminate the Super Bowl altogether in state of California because of it.
- 1:26:10[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, because they get taxed on playing the game.
- 1:26:12[SPEAKER_14]: Those game checks for the Super Bowl and the winner too.
- 1:26:16[SPEAKER_14]: You get, I think it's, you get 150 grandges for playing that, right?
- 1:26:20[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I like that.
- 1:26:21[SPEAKER_14]: And then if you win, it's something more substantial than that.
- 1:26:25[SPEAKER_14]: Man, that's wild.
- 1:26:27[SPEAKER_14]: That it just gets, it's about five cents.
- 1:26:30[SPEAKER_14]: It evaporates immediately.
- 1:26:32[SPEAKER_03]: There's something about it actually costing some football players to play certain games just because of the taxes, the way it's paid out.
- 1:26:39[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, someone like the pop list and things like some of the smaller and come guys, you know, because it's just game by game for them.
- 1:26:45[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, it's close.
- 1:26:47[SPEAKER_04]: It's very, very close.
- 1:26:49[SPEAKER_04]: It's almost like a UFC fighter.
- 1:26:50[SPEAKER_04]: Once you get out of the ring and immediately, I think it's 20% goes to your trainers and all that other shits and
- 1:27:01[SPEAKER_04]: And then I'll pay a lot.
- 1:27:03[SPEAKER_04]: All right, now's the point.
- 1:27:04[SPEAKER_04]: The show we get to the drinking bro of the week.
- 1:27:08[SPEAKER_04]: You can submit on drinkingbroes.com.
- 1:27:12[SPEAKER_04]: Working on video here coming up very, very soon, man.
- 1:27:16[SPEAKER_04]: And so I'm excited.
- 1:27:18[SPEAKER_14]: One more addition to that to your point, Luke.
- 1:27:21[SPEAKER_14]: The capital gains tax in Norway, which is very way more difficult to get around than ours.
- 1:27:26[SPEAKER_14]: This is almost 40%.
- 1:27:27[SPEAKER_14]: It's 38%.
- 1:27:29[SPEAKER_14]: which is like if you're buying and selling real estate or stocks or anything like that and that's how you make your money your fucked on taxes there.
- 1:27:37[SPEAKER_14]: That one what if you're on the list there it is 30 37.8% so if you're make if you make your money on dividends or capital gains or something like that.
- 1:27:47[SPEAKER_14]: I hope you've got a good seat, whatever, how would they call a CPA and Norway?
- 1:27:51[SPEAKER_14]: I don't even know what fucking language they speak.
- 1:27:53[SPEAKER_14]: Fuck, like, blue man?
- 1:27:54[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it's probably like a 30-letter long word.
- 1:27:56[SPEAKER_14]: I can't with that bullshit, man.
- 1:27:58[SPEAKER_14]: Come on.
- 1:27:59[SPEAKER_14]: It glue man.
- 1:27:59[SPEAKER_14]: Anyways, it depends on what you do, but they're a tax structure because they're fucking liberals.
- 1:28:09[SPEAKER_14]: true liberals, right, is designed to protect people at that lower end for the most part.
- 1:28:16[SPEAKER_14]: And if you're a fucking money mover, then good luck.
- 1:28:20[SPEAKER_14]: So that is what it does.
- 1:28:21[SPEAKER_14]: I wouldn't move there for that reason, but you know, the point of that is the sovereign wealth fund is helping offset a lot of that lower end income, which is what ours should be doing instead of replacing the income after you take money from them in taxes.
- 1:28:36[SPEAKER_14]: That doesn't make any sense to me.
- 1:28:39[SPEAKER_04]: Now I'm going to show you the drinking bro of the week again you can go to drinkabros.com and submit over there or on the app the app is free drinkabros app on iPhones and androids and I was mentioned earlier video is coming very very soon here we're going to roll out the beta version of it first and then give it to some select listeners.
- 1:29:02[SPEAKER_04]: with some push notifications that we you guys can test it out.
- 1:29:06[SPEAKER_04]: We can work out any last second bugs or any of that other stuff, but it's fun, man, because we put the bro movies on there.
- 1:29:14[SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, that bro movie list, dude.
- 1:29:16[SPEAKER_04]: I think we can have of them, and we're going to license and some more.
- 1:29:20[SPEAKER_04]: at some conversations coming up here Friday afternoon about that's and then all your favorite podcasts, although stuff.
- 1:29:28[SPEAKER_04]: But we'll be linking that to everywhere shortly.
- 1:29:32[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, my name's going to be on this site on drinkingbrows.com as well.
- 1:29:37[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, we're trying to patch it in everywhere.
- 1:29:41[SPEAKER_04]: but those meetings are coming up and we'll let you know in Friday actually.
- 1:29:45[SPEAKER_04]: But the paper, Pew, shirts, got to get one, keep it, dude, for just for keep six.
- 1:29:51[SPEAKER_04]: Got to order one, dude.
- 1:29:52[SPEAKER_04]: Got to keep that.
- 1:29:54[SPEAKER_04]: Can't wait for this close, or this fucking close.
- 1:29:57[SPEAKER_04]: Having something fucking awesome and then it's just the government rips it away.
- 1:30:01[SPEAKER_04]: I know at the last second, what a cock-tees, brobox has been on fire, November and December are always the best moments, heading into the holidays, those flat counter shirts are on fire there.
- 1:30:13[SPEAKER_04]: You can also submit again on the app for Drinking Bro of the Week.
- 1:30:17[SPEAKER_04]: Um, something that is really called on though that's uh, everybody's been having us up about is the, uh, the first form healthy bro of the week.
- 1:30:24[SPEAKER_04]: Um, in case you don't know, uh, on Facebook, there's like 800 subgroups of drinking bros on there.
- 1:30:30[SPEAKER_04]: Drinking bros fitness is one of our largest.
- 1:30:33[SPEAKER_04]: There's 23.3,000 members of drinking bros fitness and a lot of you guys, uh, posts your healthy journey, uh, and things that you've gone through and
- 1:30:45[SPEAKER_04]: Man, like, for real, I'm super fucking proud of you guys.
- 1:30:48[SPEAKER_04]: Like, one, we want to keep y'all alive.
- 1:30:51[SPEAKER_04]: And we want you guys to, to live amazing lives too.
- 1:30:54[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know how hard it is to post a picture of yourself as a fat piece of shit, like before and then after?
- 1:31:01[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody ever makes fun of anybody in this fucking group ever.
- 1:31:05[SPEAKER_04]: And there is a lot of people in here.
- 1:31:08[SPEAKER_04]: And this one goes out to Norma, Figaroa.
- 1:31:14[SPEAKER_04]: I saw her yesterday and I was like, dude, I'm going to bookmark this and save it.
- 1:31:17[SPEAKER_04]: So at 39 years old, she weighed 205 pounds at 41 years old.
- 1:31:20[SPEAKER_04]: She weighs 166 pounds and she said things that have
- 1:31:31[SPEAKER_04]: worked or listening to my body versus listening to others.
- 1:31:35[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's very, very important.
- 1:31:38[SPEAKER_04]: Not only do you know your body better than everybody else, but you also know what you want to look like and what you feel like you look great at.
- 1:31:46[SPEAKER_04]: So,
- 1:31:48[SPEAKER_04]: Her personally says, uh, I'm so in love with seeing my body transformation.
- 1:31:51[SPEAKER_04]: Same here.
- 1:31:53[SPEAKER_04]: Um, you look great.
- 1:31:54[SPEAKER_04]: And, uh, yeah, dude, it's, you know, it's, it's always a slow process.
- 1:31:59[SPEAKER_04]: You're not losing a hundred pounds and all that other stuff, but the way everybody cheers everybody on in this group is fucking amazing, dude.
- 1:32:07[SPEAKER_04]: Um, like I'm looking at Josiah Jensen, your progress is amazing.
- 1:32:11[SPEAKER_04]: Definitely not Brian.
- 1:32:12[SPEAKER_04]: Good work.
- 1:32:13[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, there's
- 1:32:18[SPEAKER_04]: And it's great because again, you don't want a lot of times look back at who you used to be and then post a picture of it versus who you are today, but let's face it you are who you are today because of who you used to be for better or worse.
- 1:32:33[SPEAKER_04]: So this is for the better and we will always champion you guys for trying to make your lives and your health better.
- 1:32:41[SPEAKER_04]: So you are a first-form bro-at healthy bro-at of the week here.
- 1:32:46[SPEAKER_04]: You look great.
- 1:32:47[SPEAKER_04]: We'll be doing more of these because a lot more of you guys have been posting pictures and hitting us up in the app and in drink of roast fitness.
- 1:32:55[SPEAKER_04]: This is a really great thing that you guys are doing.
- 1:32:57[SPEAKER_04]: We will not post your pictures.
- 1:32:59[SPEAKER_04]: These are private groups, you know.
- 1:33:02[SPEAKER_04]: If you write in and send it in and say, hey, I would love to show the progress, we'll post them.
- 1:33:07[SPEAKER_04]: If not, we will not.
- 1:33:09[SPEAKER_04]: We want to honor the groups and how this all got started and keep it in private and all that other stuff.
- 1:33:13[SPEAKER_04]: So, cheers to you, Norma, and congratulations, keep going.
- 1:33:19[SPEAKER_04]: Keep going.
- 1:33:20[SPEAKER_04]: So we do more of that in the future.
- 1:33:23[SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate you soon and in.
- 1:33:24[SPEAKER_04]: Go to iTunes, right?
- 1:33:32[SPEAKER_04]: probably say until I die, because that's all the advertisers care about.
- 1:33:37[SPEAKER_04]: And then on Spotify and Tyre back catalogue is up.
- 1:33:40[SPEAKER_04]: Did you do everybody now like all the shows on the network?
- 1:33:43[SPEAKER_04]: I think so, man.
- 1:33:45[SPEAKER_04]: I saw a couple old school RPRs like digging through the couch cushions, but yeah.
- 1:33:51[SPEAKER_02]: He has some favorite clips that he showed me.
- 1:33:54[SPEAKER_02]: There was one where you had like a drill and like a wig and you're like,
- 1:33:57[SPEAKER_02]: It was like for a Halloween episode at one point.
- 1:33:59[SPEAKER_02]: Well, did I almost come myself?
- 1:34:01[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, that was the joke.
- 1:34:02[SPEAKER_04]: Great.
- 1:34:03[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 1:34:03[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, was it really?
- 1:34:04[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember anything though.
- 1:34:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was, it's a funny clip.
- 1:34:06[SPEAKER_04]: Good for me.
- 1:34:07[SPEAKER_04]: Good for me.
- 1:34:09[SPEAKER_04]: Did I go no, come on week later?
- 1:34:11[SPEAKER_04]: Because uh, there's a gap of about four, five months.
- 1:34:14[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember.
- 1:34:15[SPEAKER_04]: Um, talk to Robert Malone.
- 1:34:16[SPEAKER_04]: I'll never forget that.
- 1:34:17[SPEAKER_04]: Jesus Christ.
- 1:34:18[SPEAKER_04]: Because any man, do you remember me from about six months ago and go, no, when he goes, he told me the same story.
- 1:34:23[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, oh, fuck.
- 1:34:25[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember anything, man.
- 1:34:27[SPEAKER_04]: Those are the oxies.
- 1:34:29[SPEAKER_04]: Those are fun.
- 1:34:29[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
- 1:34:31[SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate synonym for anything to happen to you all the way.
- 1:34:33[SPEAKER_04]: I'm Ross Patterson, this is the drinking rose pod.
- 1:34:36[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, good, not everyone.