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Beyond the Overlook: Unmasking the Deeper Symbolism of The Shining | William Ramsey Investigates · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: Okay, we are alive. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to William Ramsey investigates on today's show. Have a very
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Speaker 1: special guest, returning guest. His name is writer Lee, last
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Speaker 1: name L E E E L E E and he's
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Speaker 1: just published a new documentary. If you're watching this on
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Speaker 1: Rock fin X or Rumble, you'll see the intro image
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Speaker 1: and the title a clockwork shining Kubrick's Odyssey three. So
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Speaker 1: this is a third part. There were two other documentaries
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Speaker 1: about Kubrick. There were featured on Guy and you can
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Speaker 1: see these on Amazon. The one two I have not seen.
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Speaker 1: I got about halfway through this. It's really good and
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Speaker 1: features a lot of people. I've talked to Walter Bosley
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Speaker 1: who's in this, Mark Devlin. I was on his show
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Speaker 1: this year talking about the Smiley Faced Killers and then
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Speaker 1: very famous mind control victim Kathy O'Brien with Transformation of
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Speaker 1: America and a lot of interesting things about mind control.
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Speaker 1: We're kind of talking about stuff to pre show. This
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Speaker 1: is not our first show. I talked to Rider back
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three eighth Thick. It was March fifteenth,
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Speaker 1: the title of that show. You can watch it I'll
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Speaker 1: put a link to it reference to it so you
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Speaker 1: can listen to it. Is Global Mind Control, Remote Assassins
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Speaker 1: and mk Ultur with researcher Writerly So I can now
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Speaker 1: add as documentary director. Actually, so that's a new title.
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Speaker 1: But Rider, welcome back to the show.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. Brother, really appreciate it. And
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Speaker 2: I put a lot of work into this movie. I
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Speaker 2: have a lot of time and energy and effort, blood,
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Speaker 2: sweat and tears into this bad Boy. So I'm glad
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Speaker 2: you enjoyed it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it has good ratings. It has like food last
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Speaker 1: time I checked, twenty four to five star ratings and
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Speaker 1: a different take. You know, sometimes people don't think about
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Speaker 1: this movie as mind Control of the Shining and don't put
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Speaker 1: it in the context of some of the other stuff
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Speaker 1: that Kubrick was into. But once you really had studied,
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Speaker 1: it's really fascinating. And there's so many strange references in
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Speaker 1: this like Easter Eggs and what you call him or anything.
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Speaker 1: But maybe you can talk about how you got involved
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Speaker 1: in this project and the research involved in the project,
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Speaker 1: and how you lined up some of these other experts
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Speaker 1: to talk about the project.
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Speaker 2: Well, what had happened was is. I was bringing Jay
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Speaker 2: Widner on my show to talk about Kubic and his
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Speaker 2: previous two movies, which is a kubric Odyssey one and
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Speaker 2: Kubrick's Odyssey two, And basically his original theory was is
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Speaker 2: that The Shining was Kubrick's confession to faking the moon landing.
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Speaker 2: He was pretty much the original person that you know,
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Speaker 2: came up with that theory, and he talks about it
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Speaker 2: in his previous two movies. And I just started watching
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Speaker 2: The Shining over and over and over again to bring
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Speaker 2: them on because I like watching people's content or read
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Speaker 2: their books if I'm going to bring them on my show,
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Speaker 2: or watch their movies if they have one, so in
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Speaker 2: order to have a really good, engaging conversation with them.
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Speaker 2: And I was just rewatching The Shining over and over,
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, what am I going to find in
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Speaker 2: this movie that people haven't already seen because people have
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Speaker 2: dissected this movie from and there's so many different theories
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Speaker 2: surrounding what it's really about Native American genocide, the Holocaust.
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Speaker 2: And I kept watching it, and as I was watching it,
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Speaker 2: I just start seeing all these clues that point to
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Speaker 2: the fact that this is an experiment that's happening up
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Speaker 2: at the overlook. This is something that is going on
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Speaker 2: up here that is unlike anything that anyone has ever
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Speaker 2: talked about before or has ever put together before. And
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Speaker 2: as I started dissecting it and thinking about it, because
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Speaker 2: as our show, our previous show was about mind control,
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Speaker 2: I really big study into MK ultra and mind control,
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Speaker 2: and I was like, this is really shaping up like
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Speaker 2: an experiment and mind control experiment that's going on up here.
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Speaker 2: And then I, you know, talked to Jay about it
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Speaker 2: and he was like, yeah, I think that you're right.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, Jay, let's do a documentary about this,
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Speaker 2: because he was supposed to do Cubric's Odyssey three but
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Speaker 2: he never got around to it. It was going to
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Speaker 2: be I think he was going to call it Cubric
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Speaker 2: the Magician or something along those lines, but it never
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Speaker 2: came out. So I was like, this is the opportunity
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Speaker 2: to you know, do a new movie but on my theory,
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Speaker 2: and that's what we decided to do. And it was
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Speaker 2: an amazing process. Like you were mentioning, we have Mark
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Speaker 2: Devlin in there, we have Afosi, Special Agent of the
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Speaker 2: Air Force Walter Bosley, we have a Joe Atwell, which
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Speaker 2: is an author and a researcher, and we have MK
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Speaker 2: Ultra Monarch Survivor Kathy O'Brien and I worked tirelessly on
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Speaker 2: this and putting it all together. So and it's it's
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Speaker 2: not a rehashing of things that you know you already
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Speaker 2: think that you know about, though we do kind of
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Speaker 2: talk about some of those things, like some of the
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Speaker 2: other theories that people have proposed that it's about, but
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Speaker 2: it's something completely different.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things in to take a part
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Speaker 1: in these in his things. He's such a master craftsman
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Speaker 1: that it's really fascinating, Like there's little pieces in there
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Speaker 1: for everything, very complex. Based on a Stephen King novel, right,
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Speaker 1: So it's based on the Shine, but like other Kubrick works,
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Speaker 1: it's not true to the book, right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Kubrick was basically rewriting the entire movie as the movie
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Speaker 2: was being shot. And that's something that as a filmmaker
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Speaker 2: and as a film director, you would never do. That
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Speaker 2: would be a complete and total nightmare for any filmmaker.
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Speaker 2: And he wasn't really impressed with King's novel on the topic.
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Speaker 2: So what we within the documentary is that Kubrick submitted
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Speaker 2: a screenplay for the movie that would be more acceptable
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Speaker 2: by Warner Brothers, because it's kind of said that Warner
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Speaker 2: Brothers kind of pushed him to, you know, kind of
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Speaker 2: gave him this The Shining Novel because they had a
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Speaker 2: pre published copy of Stephen King's novel The Shining, and
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Speaker 2: Stanley Kubrick is coming off of not a very big
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Speaker 2: success successful movie with Barry Lindon. It was not a
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Speaker 2: critically a clean movie, it was not a audience did
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Speaker 2: not score well with audiences, and it lost a lot
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Speaker 2: of money. And Warner Brothers had already had a really
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Speaker 2: huge success with a horror novel and a big time
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Speaker 2: film director with the actressist and that being William Freakin.
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Speaker 2: So it's you know, it stands the reason that Warner
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Speaker 2: Brothers was kind of like, here, this is kind of
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Speaker 2: what we want you to do for your next movie.
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Speaker 2: Since Barry Linden did not go over, well, here's The Shining,
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Speaker 2: you make a film out film adaptation of this movie.
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Speaker 2: And he was rewriting the entire thing as he was
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Speaker 2: shooting the movie, and it was getting to the point
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Speaker 2: where Jack Nicholson wouldn't you even read the script because
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Speaker 2: it was changing every day. You would just you know,
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Speaker 2: study the ones that they gave to him every day
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Speaker 2: for the shoot. And that's a really interesting aspect of
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Speaker 2: this because if Kubrick was trying to hide and code
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Speaker 2: something within the Shining, then that would be the time
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Speaker 2: that he would do it as he was rewriting the movie, right.
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Speaker 1: So he just got new drafts every day Nicholson did.
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Speaker 1: It's really incredible. It's such a great movie. I mean,
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Speaker 1: just watching it purely without looking for things within it
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Speaker 1: or anything, it's really a trip. But there are implications
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Speaker 1: of mind control in the Little Boy Danny Wright and
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Speaker 1: just this kind of shining, this broken personality and elements
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Speaker 1: of pedophilia, right, or implications, it's not overtlyas stated, So
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Speaker 1: you see that theme that is a part of Kubrick's
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Speaker 1: work going back to Lolita. So it's very dark stuff, right.
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Speaker 2: It is really dark, And there's a this common thread
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Speaker 2: between que Break and his films to where it's like
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Speaker 2: they the film like then mimics like reality or reality
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Speaker 2: mimics the film. You have that with the Clockwork Clockwork Orange,
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Speaker 2: you know during in the UK, during that time after
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Speaker 2: Clockwork Orange that came out there was like a lot
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Speaker 2: of murders and crime was heavily on the rise. There
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Speaker 2: was even murders called the Clockwork Murderers, and then the
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Speaker 2: movie got banned. What's the entire movie is about mind control,
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Speaker 2: you know, drugging Alex the main character.
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Speaker 1: Method right or whatever it's called.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it stands the reason that he would
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Speaker 2: definitely know about some of these programs just based off
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Speaker 2: of the sheer fact that he made a clockwork orange.
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Speaker 2: And there's another one of like reality of Manipula Nard
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Speaker 2: that you just brought up, which is Lolita as well
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Speaker 2: with Sue Lyon. The entire movie is essentially about pedophilia,
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Speaker 2: and what's happening to Sue Lyon during the making of
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Speaker 2: the movie is the exact same thing that the movie's about.
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Speaker 2: James B. Harris is having sexual relations with the star
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Speaker 2: of Lolita in real life as she's making a movie
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Speaker 2: about having sexual relations with an older man when she's
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Speaker 2: fourteen years old. And then there's also with the Shining,
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Speaker 2: there's you know, all the things that happened with Shelley
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Speaker 2: Duval which in Lolita that also ruined Sue Lyon's career.
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Speaker 2: Sue Lion didn't act after Lolita. Neither did Shelley Duvall.
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Speaker 2: Neither did anybody that was in the Shining movie besides
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Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson, and his last movie was in like twenty
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Speaker 2: ten or whatever. No one has heard from him since Danny,
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Speaker 2: the guy guy that plays Danny didn't act in a
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Speaker 2: movie after that. The two people that played the twins
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Speaker 2: in the movie didn't act in a movie after that.
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Speaker 1: So it's like, right, like she she's a psychic almost
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Speaker 1: like she's not well.
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Speaker 2: Right, she was not well and she sidedly passed away
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Speaker 2: this year. But yeah, we could have put a lot
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Speaker 2: of things in there about Shelley Devall, but we wanted
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Speaker 2: to treat her niccense. It was really fresh that she
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Speaker 2: had just passed away. But yeah, she basically went out
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Speaker 2: of her mind. I don't know if you've seen that
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Speaker 2: Doctor Phil interview with her, but she is just not well.
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Speaker 1: In the last parts of life, she just wasn't well.
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Speaker 1: So they gave the treatment. And Lion Harris for people
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Speaker 1: who don't know, Harris was the early kind of production
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Speaker 1: partner with Kubrick. They had a company together if I
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Speaker 1: remember correctly, and then I mean there's pictures of those
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Speaker 1: two together which yeah, so yeah, so he knew about
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Speaker 1: these things from the earlier movies. So you see those
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Speaker 1: themes go through his work all the way to the end. Right,
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Speaker 1: eyes wide shut leaven the last scene of his last
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Speaker 1: movies like Ptophelia right in the toy story of all
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Speaker 1: that stuff, but also the mind controls there, So he
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Speaker 1: seems to know this whole thing about my control. Maybe
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Speaker 1: we can watch the trailer. Maybe it's a good time
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Speaker 1: play the trailer.
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Speaker 4: So, lucinogenic drugs, hypnosis, electric shock, loucinogenic drugs, hypnosis, electric
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Speaker 4: shocks to the brain some of the methods used in
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Speaker 4: secret CIA mind control experiments.
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Speaker 2: There are many theories as to what the shining is
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Speaker 2: really about, from the faking of the moon landing to
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Speaker 2: Native American genocide and the Holocaust.
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Speaker 3: Now, if he did fake the Apollogon landing, then he
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Speaker 3: probably has really deep connections into the intelligence world. Why
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Speaker 3: are there these gigantic continuity airrors in this movie?
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Speaker 5: The occult a meeting has to be comprehensible. It's just hidden,
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Speaker 5: usually in a very systematic way, so that it could
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Speaker 5: be understood by someone coming along later on. Who knows
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Speaker 5: what the real meaning is supposed to be.
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Speaker 2: We believe that there's something even more sinister lurking beneath
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Speaker 2: the surface of this masterful film.
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Speaker 3: So Lookout Mountain Hotel looked a lot like the Overlook Hotel.
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Speaker 6: You realize there's no such thing as a coincidences.
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Speaker 2: Like that as Lookout Mountain studios ran by the Air Force.
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Speaker 1: That told the story of nuclear weapons testing by the
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Speaker 1: United States of the Army Navan Air Force. The Air
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Speaker 1: Force was known to be the most excited, the most
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Speaker 1: turned on by mk ultran its prospects.
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Speaker 6: Reportedly, there were more films might at Lookout Mounting than
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Speaker 6: at all the other film studios in Hollywood.
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Speaker 3: We really don't know that these famous film directors were
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Speaker 3: being recruited for what project or whatever was it?
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Speaker 6: The Moon Landing.
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Speaker 2: The CIA's k Ultra programs were admitted to the public
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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy, five, years before the release of The Shining.
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Speaker 7: These experiments were done without the informed consent of the patients.
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Speaker 4: Look at some UFO cases and the things that are
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Speaker 4: reporting tells me that mk Ultra is likely being applied.
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Speaker 7: My mk Ultra mind control experience I was taken to
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Speaker 7: various military, NASA and DARPA installations for sophisticated mind control programming.
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Speaker 6: Woke Disney, Marilyn Monroe, James Stewart, Carrie Groan, Ronald Reagan.
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Speaker 6: Nobody really knows what they were doing.
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Speaker 1: Up there, as well as high ranking military and Department
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Speaker 1: of Defense personnel.
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Speaker 3: But people don't realize is that many of the people
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Speaker 3: that worked with Kubrick also worked with Kennedy. This is
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Speaker 3: actually the smoking gun, proving that Kubrick was working with
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Speaker 3: the gun.
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Speaker 6: These were all CIA sponsored experiments.
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Speaker 2: I said, I'm not gonna hurt you, I'm just gonna
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Speaker 2: bash your brains.
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Speaker 6: And I'm putting little symbolic cryptic clues and Easter eggs
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Speaker 6: pertaining to the fact that they're still doing it.
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Speaker 2: These clues include a hidden swastika in the background of
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Speaker 2: his room.
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Speaker 7: What was the set up? What it was being told?
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Speaker 7: And realized that it was a lie all along, But.
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Speaker 6: Right there in the narrative in the dialogue, they're telling
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Speaker 6: you that this was a very real program coming out
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Speaker 6: those nice folks, the CIA.
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Speaker 1: They hidden something. What how brilliant and how how a
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Speaker 1: masterful Kubrick was at this introductory scene, he fits what's
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Speaker 1: his name, Jack Torrance with this green tie so simbolizing.
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Speaker 1: He's already in the He's already in the labyrinth.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's already in the maze. There's several of those
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Speaker 2: throughout the movie that is foreshadowing for events that come later.
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Speaker 2: There's actually a part where that a lot of people
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Speaker 2: don't even realize, is that how many times the baseball
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Speaker 2: bat actually shows up within the movie. Before Wendy picks
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Speaker 2: up the baseball bat in the back of the couch
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Speaker 2: from the shot of her and Danny sitting at the
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Speaker 2: table eating. Uh, there's a man with a baseball bat
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Speaker 2: on the curtain in the very first scene when the
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Speaker 2: doctor comes to visit with Danny, and then whenever Jack
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Speaker 2: is going to look at the model of the maze,
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Speaker 2: which is one of the more interesting shots of the
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Speaker 2: entire film, when Jack's looking at the model of the
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Speaker 2: Amazing and the zooms in on the a maze and
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're outside. Got that above shot
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Speaker 2: of them outside where Danny and Wendy's outside in the
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Speaker 2: actual maze. Well, right before he turns that corner, the
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Speaker 2: baseball bat can be seen on the couch and he
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Speaker 2: looks directly at the baseball bat before he goes in
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Speaker 2: looks at the model of the maze. And then also
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Speaker 2: there's the whole teddy bear scene within the movie as well,
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Speaker 2: where in the very beginning of the movie when in
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Speaker 2: that exact same shot where you see the guy with
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Speaker 2: the baseball bat on the curtain of Danny's room, Danny's
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Speaker 2: laying on a teddy bear, and the teddy bear almost
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Speaker 2: it's identical to the teddy bear that Wendy sees whenever
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Speaker 2: she goes upstairs, and the guy that's dressed up like
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Speaker 2: a teddy bear is performing the sexual act on the man.
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Speaker 1: All right. That's the tide to pedophilia that the teddy
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Speaker 1: bear is a known pedal like symbol. So that's why
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Speaker 1: it's there at the end of Eyes White Hut, and
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Speaker 1: that's why it's in this movie. There's no question about it.
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Speaker 1: So he's putting that symbol in for people in the
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Speaker 1: know back then.
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Speaker 2: In my opinion, absolutely for sure isn't And one that
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Speaker 2: I've been I was the one that's seen it. No
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Speaker 2: one else had ever seen it before me. Was in
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Speaker 2: the gold room when Jack stands up the second time
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Speaker 2: and the party is going on, and he takes the
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Speaker 2: alcohol from Lloyd the Bartender, and he stands up. There's
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Speaker 2: a lady that walks right in behind him that looks
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Speaker 2: like she has a hamdprint on her ass, and she's
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Speaker 2: actually the one that bumps into Grady to make Grady
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Speaker 2: spill the alcohol on Jack before they go into the
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Speaker 2: bathroom to try and wipe it off of Jack. Now,
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Speaker 2: people have argued with me and said that it's not
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Speaker 2: an actual bloody handprint or whatever, but they say that
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Speaker 2: it's just a part of the dress. Well, regardless if
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Speaker 2: it's a part of the dress or not a part
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Speaker 2: of the dress, it still looks like a bloody handprint.
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Speaker 2: And it almost looks identical to the exact same type
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Speaker 2: of bloody handprint that is on Wilson the volleyball from
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Speaker 2: the Tom Hanks movie in two thousand Castaway. Almost the
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Speaker 2: exact the identical thing.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is like the whole like the black and
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Speaker 1: white pictures here are like, you know, referencing the black
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Speaker 1: and white picture at the end. There's all kinds of
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Speaker 1: fascinating and you notice you point out in the thing
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Speaker 1: that there's continuity problems that have to be intentional.
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Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely, this movie has some of the most continuity
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Speaker 2: errors out of any other movie. I think it just
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Speaker 2: undershadows Apocalypse Now. I think Apocalypse Now has the most
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Speaker 2: known continuity airs, but Shining is up there. It's definitely
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Speaker 2: in the top three. There's just so many of them.
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Speaker 2: There's light switches that will be there and then not
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Speaker 2: there in the next scene. Light switches that appear that
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Speaker 2: wasn't previously there. The pin on Allman's desk is jumping
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Speaker 2: around the desk. There's an ash tray with a cigarette
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Speaker 2: butt in it that's jumping around the desk and moving.
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Speaker 2: There's chairs disappearing and reappearing, all in the exact same shot.
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Speaker 2: The carpet is changing when Danny stands up in the hallway.
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Speaker 2: It goes i'm an open facing hexagonal pattern to a
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Speaker 2: closed hexagonald pattern. There's a sticker that disappears on Danny's door.
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Speaker 2: There's so many of them that there's no way that
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Speaker 2: all of these were mistakes. And what we when you
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Speaker 2: tie it together, that this is an experiment. This is
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Speaker 2: not only an experiment happening up at the overlook with
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Speaker 2: Bill Watson's character in this exact scene where we're seeing
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Speaker 2: on the screen right there with Jack talking to Olmen.
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Speaker 2: Bill Watson is right beside of him on the right,
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Speaker 2: which Bill Watson doesn't even really do anything in the
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Speaker 2: entire movie. He has like one or two lines. That's
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Speaker 2: him right there, Bill Watson, he doesn't really do anything. Yep,
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Speaker 2: that's him. And he he really looks like Sidney Gottlieb
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Speaker 2: in a lot of different ways. But it's very difficult
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Speaker 2: to find pictures of Sidney Gottlieb because a lot of
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Speaker 2: them have been scrubbed. There's only like one or two
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Speaker 2: pictures of him out there on the internet that you
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Speaker 2: can even find. But he he's just an observer. He's
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Speaker 2: there to observe them, and it's a it's an operation
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Speaker 2: that's being run up there. And just between the dialogue
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Speaker 2: between Almonds, Stuart Almond and Jack Amend basically explains everything
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Speaker 2: that's going to happen to Jack in that first ten
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Speaker 2: minutes of the movie. He says, this isn't a physically
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Speaker 2: demanding job. This is more of a mental job. This
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Speaker 2: is more of a psychological job up here because of
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Speaker 2: the isolation and the things that you're going to go
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Speaker 2: through while you're up here.
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Speaker 1: It's isolation and all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. You got the Yeah you got the coup bar
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Speaker 2: counter Intelligence Isolation Manual that that that's the way that
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Speaker 2: they would do to torture people to get information out
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Speaker 2: of them, which one of them is sensory deprivation. They
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Speaker 2: put him in a.
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Speaker 1: People who don't know kup bark is just a coded
20:57
Speaker 1: term for the CIA.
20:59
Speaker 2: So yep, that's right. And it seems like that Bill
21:04
Speaker 2: Watson here that's on the screen, he seems like he's
21:08
Speaker 2: the one that's really in charge of this. And the
21:11
Speaker 2: guy that looks like JFK which a Stewart omen, he's
21:14
Speaker 2: kind of like the front person for this operation. But
21:17
Speaker 2: Bill Watson here is really running the entire show. And
21:21
Speaker 2: we really get into that with toward the end of
21:24
Speaker 2: the film, A Clockwork Shining on Amazon Prime is cubric
21:28
Speaker 2: had an entire ending to the shining that was cut out.
21:32
Speaker 2: He had an original ending that really explains the entire movie,
21:36
Speaker 2: and he cut out. He cut that out, And his
21:39
Speaker 2: excuse was is that he had audience test screenings. He
21:44
Speaker 2: had a bunch of test screenings for the movie, and
21:46
Speaker 2: he was like, oh, well, you know, people aren't really
21:48
Speaker 2: enjoying this movie. They're immediately getting up and they're leaving
21:50
Speaker 2: the theater, and Kubrick didn't want that. He wanted them
21:53
Speaker 2: to like stick around and talk about the movie as
21:55
Speaker 2: the credits were rolling, but with this original ending that
21:58
Speaker 2: he had in there, which we know that it was
22:01
Speaker 2: one percent in there because there's pictures of it, there's
22:04
Speaker 2: the screenplay of it, we have the lines, we have
22:08
Speaker 2: all that stuff. We just don't have the footage. It's
22:10
Speaker 2: one of the most infamous piece pieces of lost media
22:13
Speaker 2: probably ever that probably no one will ever see. But
22:16
Speaker 2: we have our Ai recreation so in our movie that
22:19
Speaker 2: you can get a better idea and a better understanding
22:22
Speaker 2: of what that scene, that missing scene at the end
22:25
Speaker 2: of the movie would look like. And that missing scene,
22:29
Speaker 2: I don't want to ruin it because it's it's really important,
22:33
Speaker 2: and then really brings everything together at the end of
22:36
Speaker 2: the movie where you really understand exactly what was going
22:39
Speaker 2: on up there, but it really explains the entire movie
22:44
Speaker 2: because essentially Almand, I don't want to ruin the whole thing,
22:47
Speaker 2: but essentially Olmand comes into the hospital and Wendy is
22:52
Speaker 2: laying on a bed and Danny is there, and Almend
22:54
Speaker 2: goes in and explains to Wendy that everything that she
22:58
Speaker 2: said that happened, but the overlook they couldn't find any
23:02
Speaker 2: evidence for it.
23:03
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, So it was all in her mind or
23:07
Speaker 1: something like that or whatever. But it's crazy because you're right,
23:11
Speaker 1: he explains what happened. The other guy went insane, and
23:13
Speaker 1: then Jack goes insane. Right. So, but there's weird things
23:18
Speaker 1: in this too, like what they filmed it at the
23:20
Speaker 1: Iwania Hotel in part of it the Iwania Hotel in Yosemite, Right,
23:27
Speaker 1: so this is this There is.
23:28
Speaker 2: This Underline Lodge in Oregon where the exterior exterior shots
23:33
Speaker 2: were shot. And that's another thing, another continuity era that
23:37
Speaker 2: is unmistakable because in the opening shot, whenever the movie
23:41
Speaker 2: first starts and you see the overlook, there's not a
23:44
Speaker 2: maze in behind the hotel. But later on we obviously
23:48
Speaker 2: know that there is amaze, and the maze is a
23:50
Speaker 2: very integral part of the entire movie. But yeah, the
23:53
Speaker 2: exterior shots were shot at Timberline Lodge in Oregon. Uh,
23:57
Speaker 2: and then the some of the other and the rest
24:00
Speaker 2: was filmed on a set in England.
24:02
Speaker 1: Okay, so they must have used the hotel as a
24:05
Speaker 1: model for some shots then, because it's at the the
24:08
Speaker 1: Aana hotel looks like the interior of that overlook or whatever,
24:13
Speaker 1: because it's all full of old kind of western in
24:16
Speaker 1: native American regalia, just like that, you.
24:19
Speaker 2: Know, And that's also talked about within The Shining two
24:22
Speaker 2: between Olmen and like all the beetles symbolism throughout the
24:26
Speaker 2: movie and uh, you know, them walking like the exact
24:30
Speaker 2: picture of Abbey Road, the exact artwork that has a
24:34
Speaker 2: white beetle in the background, which was John Lennon's beetle
24:37
Speaker 2: that he had just purchased. And then within the Shining Uh,
24:41
Speaker 2: cubric changed the collar of Stephen King's beetle. In the book,
24:46
Speaker 2: it was a it was red in the book, but
24:48
Speaker 2: then cubric changed it to yellow. Then you also have
24:50
Speaker 2: the yellow submarine with the Beatles, and uh later on
24:54
Speaker 2: in the movie uh holler, and whenever he's driving back
24:57
Speaker 2: up to the hotel, he sees a red crushed beetle
24:59
Speaker 2: on the side of the road, which is definitely a
25:01
Speaker 2: job at Cubic. And then you also have the more
25:05
Speaker 2: Beatles stuff going on there. Because Kubrick was supposed to
25:09
Speaker 2: have directed and made J. R. R. Tolkien's Lord of
25:13
Speaker 2: the Rings movies, and it was supposed to star the
25:16
Speaker 2: Beatles as the Hobbits.
25:19
Speaker 1: Get out of town. I've never heard that word was that.
25:22
Speaker 1: Where did you find that reference?
25:24
Speaker 2: Just type it into Google Stanley Cubrike, uh directing Lord
25:29
Speaker 2: of the Rings and it'll pop up.
25:31
Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing.
25:32
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, but Lord, but Stanley Kubrick turned
25:35
Speaker 2: it down because he said that at that time, uh uh,
25:40
Speaker 2: that that it was unfilmable at that time because special
25:42
Speaker 2: effects hadn't got to that point, and it ultimately landed
25:45
Speaker 2: in Peter Jackson's lap and then he made the trilogy.
25:48
Speaker 2: So but that's another easter egg between the Beatles and
25:52
Speaker 2: Stanley Kubrick, and we can wonder what that what kind
25:55
Speaker 2: of movie, what kind of trilogy that would have been
25:57
Speaker 2: with Stanley Kubrick directing The Lord of the Rings.
26:00
Speaker 1: It's incredible. The Shining came out was in seventy nine,
26:03
Speaker 1: is that right?
26:04
Speaker 2: Eight?
26:05
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty eighty, So it came out at the same
26:07
Speaker 1: time Lennon was shot. So it's like incredible that there's
26:10
Speaker 1: that scene with them having the catcher in the ride.
26:16
Speaker 1: Novel right and Outwell talks about that in detail. And
26:18
Speaker 1: I've done a full show on the Catcher in the Rye,
26:21
Speaker 1: so people can check that out.
26:22
Speaker 2: But yeah, not only that too. Another thing with the
26:25
Speaker 2: Beatles is that Stephen King got the title The Shining
26:31
Speaker 2: from a John Lennon song called Instant Karma where it
26:36
Speaker 2: talks about we all shine on and that's where Cuber
26:39
Speaker 2: got the inspiration to name the book The Shining. So
26:42
Speaker 2: there's so much, there's so much Beatles stuff going on
26:46
Speaker 2: within there. And just like what you said with Wendy
26:48
Speaker 2: reading Catcher in the Rye and then John Lennon being
26:50
Speaker 2: assassinated by Mark David Chapman less than a year after
26:53
Speaker 2: the release of the movie, and it just happens to
26:56
Speaker 2: be the book that Wendy's reading. It's honesting, it's incredible.
27:01
Speaker 2: And they found a Catcher on the Rye, on the
27:03
Speaker 2: guy who shot Reagan, and I mean such a I
27:07
Speaker 2: mean it's weird too that they made high school kids
27:10
Speaker 2: all around the country back in the day before this
27:13
Speaker 2: kind of new thought has come in. But that was
27:16
Speaker 2: a commonly you know, requested book to read. Right about
27:23
Speaker 2: what was the main character's name? I forgot Holden call
27:26
Speaker 2: Field or so, and then a lot of these guys
27:28
Speaker 2: identify with Holden call Field like this disaffected guy in
27:32
Speaker 2: New York City. The weird thing about Chapman is just
27:35
Speaker 2: off the charts, like, but the fact that they had
27:38
Speaker 2: this catching ry we talked about the pre show too,
27:40
Speaker 2: was in conspiracy theory. And you have a clip of
27:43
Speaker 2: the Will Smith talking about it too, right, Yeah, in
27:47
Speaker 2: our movie we have the clip of the sixth Sense,
27:50
Speaker 2: which I believe came out in two thousand and three
27:55
Speaker 2: or some somewhere in the early two thousands. We have
27:57
Speaker 2: the title of it in the our movie. But yeah,
28:01
Speaker 2: Will Smith is going on about it. And John Hinckley Jr.
28:04
Speaker 2: Which was that you just mentioned was attempted assassination on
28:07
Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan, which Ronald Reagan also had top secret security
28:10
Speaker 2: clearance for this top secret movie studio. Air Force base
28:15
Speaker 2: on top of Laurel Canyon called Lookout Mountain Air Force
28:18
Speaker 2: Base where mini films or a lot of them are
28:21
Speaker 2: still classified to this very day. We don't even know
28:23
Speaker 2: exactly what was being filmed up there. And but John
28:28
Speaker 2: Hinckley Junior, the gentleman there was the attempted assassin on
28:33
Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan, was let out of prison in twenty twenty
28:38
Speaker 2: two and now has a YouTube channel where he talks
28:41
Speaker 2: about folk music, like, Man, we got to interview this guy.
28:46
Speaker 2: I gotta get him on my show.
28:47
Speaker 3: Bro.
28:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have changed history too if Reagan died
28:51
Speaker 1: like that would have been Push Bush Senior for eight years,
28:55
Speaker 1: which she kind of really was. People say that he
28:57
Speaker 1: was kind of running the show anyway. And there's ties
29:01
Speaker 1: between Inkley and the Bush family as well, oil ties
29:04
Speaker 1: and things like that, which makes it even stranger.
29:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, the amount of stuff that is in this movie,
29:13
Speaker 2: not only within The Shining, but within our movie as well.
29:16
Speaker 2: There's so much information in there, to the point that
29:19
Speaker 2: even if you don't like The Shining, even if you
29:21
Speaker 2: don't like Stanley Kuberg, or maybe not even watch The Shining,
29:24
Speaker 2: it's not really going to make a difference because there's
29:27
Speaker 2: so many we take it in so many different directions
29:31
Speaker 2: that there's going to be something in there that you
29:34
Speaker 2: like or that you find interest in. With the cast
29:39
Speaker 2: that we have, it's a very diverse cast, and everyone
29:41
Speaker 2: has their own specialty on the things that they know.
29:47
Speaker 1: Right, Devlin, It's weird because I talked to Devlin this year.
29:51
Speaker 1: I've talked to actually all those guys at will Boseley
29:54
Speaker 1: and Devlin except for O'Brien, which her interview with Ed
30:00
Speaker 1: Auberman on the Opera Report is worth for people out there,
30:04
Speaker 1: worth listening to, I would say, But she's an interesting character. Yeah,
30:11
Speaker 1: So what else is in there? I mean, so you've
30:13
Speaker 1: got the Indian theme, You've got the kind of soul
30:17
Speaker 1: cracking thing with Danny literally has two personalities. Somebody's talking
30:20
Speaker 1: to him, so it's almost like he's gone through traumatic
30:25
Speaker 1: mind control trauma, right, trauma based mind control.
30:28
Speaker 2: Well, it's explained in the beginning of the movie when
30:31
Speaker 2: the doctor comes to visit Wendy at their apartment in Boulder, Colorado,
30:36
Speaker 2: that Wendy says that Jack, you know, abused Danny, and
30:43
Speaker 2: right around that time is whenever he started, you know,
30:46
Speaker 2: imagining Tony, which Tony is the entity that Danny says
30:53
Speaker 2: is that's in his throat, but he talks to him
30:55
Speaker 2: with his finger, which is another really interesting aspect of this.
30:59
Speaker 2: But there's an there's not only connuity ras but things
31:03
Speaker 2: disappearing and reappearing and stuff, but there's also connuity errors
31:06
Speaker 2: between the dialogue of the characters as well, which is
31:12
Speaker 2: really interesting when you know it kind of passes you
31:16
Speaker 2: by on your first couple of watches through. But when
31:18
Speaker 2: you've watched it a bunch of times, you start to
31:21
Speaker 2: pick up on the continuity errors between the dialogue of
31:25
Speaker 2: the characters. Because Wendy says that the incident happened five
31:29
Speaker 2: months ago, that this incident where Jack injured Danny. Then
31:33
Speaker 2: he had Jack's papers spread out all across their apartment,
31:37
Speaker 2: and then Jack comes in and picks him up really
31:40
Speaker 2: quickly by the arm and injures his arm. And when
31:44
Speaker 2: he says that from that point forward he hasn't touched
31:47
Speaker 2: a drop of alcohol and he's been sober for five months. Okay, Now,
31:52
Speaker 2: when he's talking to Lloyd the bartender and he's basically
31:55
Speaker 2: confessing to Lloyd that he did in fact hurt Danny,
31:59
Speaker 2: Jack's says that it was three years ago that it happened.
32:03
Speaker 2: Then there's other dialogue errors as well, with Olman calling
32:09
Speaker 2: the former caretaker Charles Grady, but then whenever Jack is
32:13
Speaker 2: talking to Grady in the bathroom, he refers to himself
32:16
Speaker 2: as Delbert Grady. So there's there's so many different dialogue
32:22
Speaker 2: continuity errors as well that is very difficult to pick
32:26
Speaker 2: up on it if you haven't heard it. But what
32:27
Speaker 2: we proposed within the movie is that Danny is basically
32:31
Speaker 2: traumatized by Jack and that's how he essentially opens up
32:36
Speaker 2: his mind through this, because we know with MK ultra
32:40
Speaker 2: all revolves around traumas. You have to be traumatized so
32:44
Speaker 2: that your psyche can be split and then you There
32:47
Speaker 2: are several MK ultra subprojects of the one hundred and
32:51
Speaker 2: forty nine that we know about, which we know that
32:52
Speaker 2: there are several more that actually got destroyed, but out
32:56
Speaker 2: of those, right, right, But the one hundred and forty
33:00
Speaker 2: nine that we do have access to.
33:04
Speaker 1: Is just so honest about everyone. The only reason that
33:08
Speaker 1: there's a picture of Godleeb is because he had to
33:10
Speaker 1: go in front of the Congress or whatever. That's like
33:13
Speaker 1: one of the known pictures of Godly and.
33:16
Speaker 2: There's only a couple, there's only a few of them.
33:19
Speaker 2: But we know that there are several subprojects that were
33:22
Speaker 2: basically focused on and I'm pretty sure I talked about
33:26
Speaker 2: this on our show before, but there were at least
33:29
Speaker 2: a handful of subprojects MK ultural subprojects that were focused
33:33
Speaker 2: on unlocking psychic abilities within the patients. There were studies
33:38
Speaker 2: on you know, telekinesis remote viewing to a certain degree
33:44
Speaker 2: and using these drugs to bring about some sort of
33:48
Speaker 2: psychic ability within the patient. So it stands to reason
33:51
Speaker 2: that this was what was going on with Danny, and
33:55
Speaker 2: Danny had unlocked these types of psychic abilities within his
33:59
Speaker 2: mind through the abuse that he suffered through Jack, and
34:03
Speaker 2: then throughout the movie, Jack is becoming susceptible to these
34:10
Speaker 2: MK ultra techniques by the psychic driving that's going on
34:17
Speaker 2: toward Jack. And we know the psychic driving was basically
34:20
Speaker 2: coined by you and Cameron in Canada, where he would
34:24
Speaker 2: essentially take in a recorded tape message and play it
34:28
Speaker 2: over and over and over again. I don't think that
34:29
Speaker 2: he was the first person to originally do it, but
34:32
Speaker 2: he's the one that kind of, you know, that's the
34:34
Speaker 2: one that we all know about you and Cameron. I
34:36
Speaker 2: think they were already doing that in Nazi Germany at
34:39
Speaker 2: that time, but because that's where you and Cameron got
34:42
Speaker 2: a lot of his techniques and his ideas to do
34:45
Speaker 2: was from Nazi Germany. But essentially what Jack is going
34:51
Speaker 2: through at the Overlook Hotel is a form of psychic driving.
34:54
Speaker 2: He's being forced to, you know, essentially write out the
34:58
Speaker 2: same phrase over and over and over again, and he's
35:00
Speaker 2: got you know, Wendy fool that he's actually writing a novel.
35:03
Speaker 2: But he's not really writing a novel, He's just write
35:06
Speaker 2: It's that famous scene when Wendy walks in and sees
35:09
Speaker 2: all the papers on the desk and she keeps flipping
35:11
Speaker 2: through the papers and seeing that it's all working no
35:13
Speaker 2: play makes Jack a dull boy, And that is essentially
35:18
Speaker 2: the exact same thing that was happening to Sir Han Sirhan,
35:21
Speaker 2: which supposedly right, supposedly because there's evidence to point to
35:26
Speaker 2: the fact that Sir Hansarn really didn't have anything that
35:29
Speaker 2: he was basically put up for assassinating RFK, But that
35:34
Speaker 2: was the same type of thing that Sir Hans Sirhan
35:37
Speaker 2: was going through as well, with the notebook saying RFK
35:39
Speaker 2: must die, RFK must die, over and over and over again.
35:42
Speaker 2: So Jack is doing his own version of psychic driving
35:46
Speaker 2: within the Shining and then when Wendy walks in on
35:49
Speaker 2: him and finds that he's just writing the same sentence
35:52
Speaker 2: over and over again, he becomes triggered, and then that's
35:55
Speaker 2: when he starts to, you know, essentially do violence against
35:59
Speaker 2: Wendy and Dan.
36:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's it's incredible. There's so many subtleties
36:05
Speaker 1: there too, like Kubrick did it, Like at certain points,
36:07
Speaker 1: Jack's looking at right at the camera like weird things,
36:11
Speaker 1: like he's engaging the audience through looking directly at the
36:14
Speaker 1: lens and just like it's just something else. There's so
36:18
Speaker 1: much in there really that you see the how much
36:23
Speaker 1: Kubrick knew like and put it into his films, like
36:26
Speaker 1: they really astonishing.
36:28
Speaker 5: Well.
36:28
Speaker 2: Not only not only that, you got the Lookout Mountain
36:32
Speaker 2: studio on top of Lower Canyon that we mentioned before,
36:34
Speaker 2: but there used to be a hotel that sat at
36:37
Speaker 2: the exact same spot where the Lookout Mountain Air Force
36:40
Speaker 2: Bace later became. Which Lookout Mountain Air Force Base is
36:43
Speaker 2: not owned by Jared Leto. I'm sure people already are
36:45
Speaker 2: familiar with that. If they're not, but if they did,
36:48
Speaker 2: then it's kind of a surprise Jared Leto being you
36:51
Speaker 2: know the Oscar nominated well, I think he won an
36:54
Speaker 2: Oscar for that Dallas Buyers Club with Matthew Conney. Yeah,
37:01
Speaker 2: and he's also in the band thirty Seconds to Mars.
37:03
Speaker 2: But there used to be a hotel that sat there
37:08
Speaker 2: before the Air Force put their military base there and
37:13
Speaker 2: the hotel ended up burning to the ground. And in
37:18
Speaker 2: the sequel to The Shining the movie Doctor Sleep, the
37:24
Speaker 2: Overlook Hotel burns to the ground, and the Lookout Mountain
37:28
Speaker 2: Hotel we show it in our movie, which was very
37:31
Speaker 2: few pictures of that as well, because it burned down
37:33
Speaker 2: in the early nineteen hundreds. But it looks similar to
37:37
Speaker 2: Stanley Kubrick's Overlook Hotel within The Shining and they both
37:43
Speaker 2: and at the end of the sequel to The Shining
37:46
Speaker 2: Doctor Sleep, it also burns to the ground. So it's
37:48
Speaker 2: a it's this constant thing with Cubriic. It's like it's
37:52
Speaker 2: either art imitating reality or reality imitating art. This is
37:58
Speaker 2: just all over the place with all of his movies.
38:01
Speaker 1: Right, he was around la so he might have known
38:03
Speaker 1: a lot about the Lookout Mountain and stuff like that.
38:05
Speaker 1: I think he was around in the like I think
38:07
Speaker 1: he worked for Look and then his first films were
38:09
Speaker 1: in Burbank around that area, you know, so he might he.
38:13
Speaker 2: Went to school there, I believe too. And he lived
38:15
Speaker 2: with his uncle Martin there for a couple of years.
38:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we know that he had and got out
38:22
Speaker 1: like strange ends up after two thousand and one of
38:26
Speaker 1: Space Out as he go into England for the rest
38:28
Speaker 1: of his life. Yeah, there's a lot of information there
38:31
Speaker 1: and it is interesting how much you see, like other
38:34
Speaker 1: influences from his past go into his movies that were
38:38
Speaker 1: current when he was making them, and it's really something else.
38:40
Speaker 1: But he must have had brilliant people around him too,
38:44
Speaker 1: Like I've I've read stuff about the making of two
38:46
Speaker 1: thousand and one and just the group that he had,
38:48
Speaker 1: the research group, So it wasn't just him researching, but
38:52
Speaker 1: other things. People would help research who may may know
38:56
Speaker 1: a lot about this stuff that he's like, oh yeah,
38:59
Speaker 1: let's put you know what I mean.
39:02
Speaker 2: Absolutely two thousand and one was a and the strange
39:06
Speaker 2: thing about it is like two thousand and one was,
39:08
Speaker 2: you know, really being It's possible. I'm not saying that
39:12
Speaker 2: it's factual, but it's possible that during the making and
39:15
Speaker 2: the filming of two thousand and one could have been
39:19
Speaker 2: when he shot the footage for the moonlanding.
39:23
Speaker 1: Or influenced it or whatever. There's pictures of him with
39:26
Speaker 1: that guy Mueller in London, and Mueller is NASA, like
39:31
Speaker 1: this is the like head of NASA, like a huge bureaucrat,
39:35
Speaker 1: are huge kind of NASA bureaucrat hanging out with Clark
39:39
Speaker 1: and Koprick, like what are the odds? And we know
39:42
Speaker 1: that he got special film cameras and stuff like that,
39:45
Speaker 1: so what else did he get? Who else paid stuff?
39:48
Speaker 1: I think you wrote in one of your things, right,
39:50
Speaker 1: like the uh the credits like listed on the first credits.
39:54
Speaker 1: That was an interesting fact. The first credits showed like
39:58
Speaker 1: thanks to all these like Deep eight people.
40:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the intelligence community community, Boeing freaking Air Force intelligence. See,
40:09
Speaker 2: it's just insane, DARPA like all these uh, these military
40:15
Speaker 2: contractors and the government themselves, And those were the credits.
40:19
Speaker 2: So those were the people that he think that the
40:21
Speaker 2: at the ending credits of two thousand and one of
40:23
Speaker 2: Space Odyssey, and then later on those were removed. And
40:26
Speaker 2: I'm going out on a limb and saying that probably
40:30
Speaker 2: they didn't know that he was going to put that
40:33
Speaker 2: in the credits of the movie. And then someone seen
40:35
Speaker 2: it and was like, oh no, no, no, no, no, you
40:38
Speaker 2: can't be thinking us for you know, at the end
40:41
Speaker 2: of your movie, you got to take that out. But
40:43
Speaker 2: we also show documents within the movie with the you know,
40:47
Speaker 2: the military and these intelligence communities being part of the
40:51
Speaker 2: production on several movies, Transformers movies, they were a part
40:55
Speaker 2: of Die Another Day, they were a part of So
40:59
Speaker 2: their influence has been there for a really long time.
41:03
Speaker 2: But it probably it probably was started around the time
41:07
Speaker 2: of Doctor Strangelove really heavily because Kubrick had reached out
41:12
Speaker 2: to the Air Force to if he could, you know,
41:16
Speaker 2: get the inside of the B two stealth bomber. He
41:20
Speaker 2: wanted to make sure that he got, you know, the
41:22
Speaker 2: inside of it accurately. But of course that's you know,
41:25
Speaker 2: at that time, that was top secret information that no
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Speaker 2: one could know about because if our enemy got that information,
41:33
Speaker 2: then they could try and duplicate it or replicated or whatever.
41:36
Speaker 2: And they denied Kubic to you know, see the what
41:39
Speaker 2: the inside of the B two bomber looked like. So
41:43
Speaker 2: then he contacted his production designer and we have the
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Speaker 2: interview with his production designer in there, and he ended
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Speaker 2: up cutting out a bunch of these articles and these
41:53
Speaker 2: magazines and everything, and then they put together what they
41:56
Speaker 2: thought that the B two stealth bomber, the inside of
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Speaker 2: it was look like to the best of their knowledge,
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Speaker 2: and a military agent shows up on the set and
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Speaker 2: was shocked by how accurate Cubric got the inside of
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Speaker 2: the B fifty two to the actual real B fifty two,
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Speaker 2: and they thought that they maybe some insider to the
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Speaker 2: military leaked this information to Kubrick. And we have the
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Speaker 2: production designer within the movie in the interview saying that
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Speaker 2: cubric contacted him and was like, hey, you better have
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Speaker 2: all your ducks in a row here exactly how you
42:31
Speaker 2: figured out what this inside of the B fifty two
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Speaker 2: looks like, or we're going to be investigated by the FBI.
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Speaker 1: Crazy. It's amazing. Doctor Strangelove is back in the news.
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Speaker 1: I just saw a clip of Oliver Stone sitting down
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Speaker 1: with Vladimir Putin watching Doctor Strains in the end, which
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Speaker 1: is bombing Russia, and they're like discussing, this is how
42:54
Speaker 1: it could end. We have to do failed safe methods
42:56
Speaker 1: in Vladimir Putin's agreeing with him, and here we are
42:59
Speaker 1: literally to break a nuclear war. So Kubrick strikes again
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Speaker 1: with the kind of dark craziness that's going on right now.
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Speaker 1: That's the decision by Biden and those lunatics to ball
43:10
Speaker 1: like shoot missiles inside of Russia at war without a
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Speaker 1: Declaration of war. So we're at strange beyond strange look territory.
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Speaker 1: But credit to Kubrick kind of capturing that kind of
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Speaker 1: insanity that really took place in the sixties too with
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Speaker 1: the Cuban missiles crisis. Anyway, we are at the forty
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Speaker 1: minute mark. Writer, anything you'd like to add anything I
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Speaker 1: missed and tell people where they can watch A Clockwork Shining.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can watch A Clockwork Shining on Amazon Prime
43:36
Speaker 2: Video and if you would also, it's on Apple TV
43:40
Speaker 2: Plus as well, So if you're outside of the United
43:43
Speaker 2: States or outside of the UK, you can get it
43:46
Speaker 2: on Apple TV Plus and we'll be making it available
43:49
Speaker 2: to everybody worldwide here really soon. And I would just
43:55
Speaker 2: encourage people to please watched the movie and support independent filmmakers.
44:04
Speaker 2: You know, we know Hollywood has dead. It's been dead
44:07
Speaker 2: for a really long time to just keep pushing out
44:09
Speaker 2: nothing but garbage all the time. And it's really our
44:12
Speaker 2: time now as independent filmmakers to really try and make
44:18
Speaker 2: a lasting impact on this because there's nothing but reboots, sequels, requels, prequels,
44:25
Speaker 2: and recognizable ip that is constantly being pushed out of Hollywood,
44:29
Speaker 2: and they're getting ready to take over the TV industry
44:33
Speaker 2: as well, like with the streaming, because they didn't get
44:36
Speaker 2: on the whole streaming bandwagon fast enough, and they're getting
44:41
Speaker 2: ready to do exactly what they did to the movie
44:44
Speaker 2: industry to the TV industry as well. So please, you know,
44:49
Speaker 2: with sequels and prequels and recognizable ip So please go
44:53
Speaker 2: out and support my movie. I put it all together myself,
44:57
Speaker 2: I edited and I directed it, I filmed it, So
45:02
Speaker 2: please go out and support.
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Speaker 1: I'll put a link to the movie the documentary in
45:06
Speaker 1: the show notes so people can watch it. I'll put
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Speaker 1: a link to your other stuff. I mean, you're doing
45:11
Speaker 1: other work and social media too, as a guest, right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a show called Raised by Giants on
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Speaker 2: YouTube and any and all podcast platforms and on rock
45:22
Speaker 2: fin and anywhere else. I don't have a rumble. I've
45:26
Speaker 2: had a Rumble for a really long time. But for
45:28
Speaker 2: some reason, there's a typo in the name of my
45:32
Speaker 2: name on Rumble and it doesn't make its searchable. But
45:35
Speaker 2: I'm working on fixing that. But yeah, YouTube and in
45:38
Speaker 2: all podcast platforms, I'll try and at least do a
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Speaker 2: couple of shows a week. So if you guys are
45:42
Speaker 2: interested in I want to come over there very much
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Speaker 2: appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: And where can people reach out to you if they're interested?
45:48
Speaker 1: Is the best place? Social media or X or Twitter
45:50
Speaker 1: or what.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can find me on X at raised by
45:54
Speaker 2: Giants eight and on Instagram at raised by Giants pot.
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Speaker 1: Cool. Awesome, Thanks so much for your time and congrats
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Speaker 1: on the documentary. Really a lot to think about. There
46:05
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting stuff and great guests too. So again,
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Speaker 1: the director is writer Lee and the full title of
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Speaker 1: the documentary is A Clockwork Shining Kubrick's Odyssey three. So
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Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time.