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The Faces Behind Us: Edmund's Impact on Aslan · Systematic Geekology

• 1:14
  Did
• 1:14
  Edmund's
• 1:15
  mistake
• 1:16
  change
• 1:17
  Aslan?
• 1:18
  And
• 1:18
  do
• 1:18
  our
• 1:19
  sins
• 1:19
  change
• 1:19
  God?
• 1:21
  Today
• 1:21
  special
• 1:22
  Easter
• 1:23
  bonus
• 1:23
  episode
• 1:24
  of
• 1:24
  Systematic
• 1:25
  Geekology.
• 1:26
  We're
• 1:27
  going
• 1:27
  to
• 1:27
  be
• 1:27
  discussing
• 1:29
  that.
• 1:29
  We're
• 1:29
  going
• 1:29
  to
• 1:29
  be
• 1:30
  discussing
• 1:30
  Aslan.
• 1:30
  We're
• 1:31
  going
• 1:31
  to
• 1:31
  talk
• 1:31
  about
• 1:31
  Easter.
• 1:31
  We're
• 1:32
  going
• 1:32
  to
• 1:32
  talk
• 1:32
  about
• 1:32
  whether
• 1:32
  or
• 1:33
  not
• 1:33
  God
• 1:33
  changes.
• 1:34
  And
• 1:34
  does
• 1:34
  that
• 1:34
  apply
• 1:35
  to
• 1:35
  Aslan
• 1:35
  and
• 1:35
  Narnia?
• 1:36
  We'll
• 1:37
  see
• 1:37
  how
• 1:37
  far
• 1:38
  the
• 1:38
  metaphor
• 1:39
  goes.
• 1:39
  I,
• 1:40
  of
• 1:40
  course,
• 1:40
  am
• 1:40
  Joshua
• 1:41
  Nolan.
• 1:41
  I'm
• 1:41
  here
• 1:41
  with
• 1:42
  two
• 1:42
  wonderful
• 1:42
  guest,
• 1:43
  former
• 1:43
  host,
• 1:44
  some
• 1:44
  of
• 1:44
  the
• 1:44
  people
• 1:44
  who
• 1:45
  helped
• 1:45
  kick
• 1:45
  our
• 1:46
  show
• 1:46
  off
• 1:46
  from
• 1:47
  the
• 1:47
  beginning.
• 1:47
  Who
• 1:48
  else
• 1:48
  to
• 1:48
  have
• 1:48
  a
• 1:49
  special
• 1:49
  Easter
• 1:50
  bonus
• 1:50
  with.
• 1:50
  And
• 1:50
  the
• 1:51
  one
• 1:51
  and
• 1:51
  only
• 1:52
  Joe
• 1:52
  Day
• 1:53
  of
• 1:54
  any
• 1:54
  podcast
• 1:55
  that
• 1:55
  you're
• 1:55
  not
• 1:55
  listening
• 1:55
  to
• 1:56
  right
• 1:56
  now.
• 1:56
  He's
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  the
• 1:56
  host
• 1:57
  of
• 1:57
  I
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  think,
• 1:57
  I
• 1:57
  think
• 1:57
  that's
• 1:58
  how
• 1:58
  it
• 1:58
  works.
• 1:59
  We
• 1:59
  got
• 1:59
  shell
• 2:00
  shocked.
• 2:00
  We
• 2:01
  got
• 2:01
  a
• 2:01
  new
• 2:01
  comic
• 2:01
  book,
• 2:01
  one
• 2:02
  that
• 2:02
  I
• 2:02
  know
• 2:02
  you're
• 2:02
  going
• 2:02
  to
• 2:02
  want
• 2:02
  to
• 2:03
  shout
• 2:03
  out
• 2:03
  here
• 2:03
  on
• 2:03
  systematic
• 2:04
  ecology.
• 2:04
  And
• 2:04
  then
• 2:04
  you
• 2:04
  have
• 2:04
  your
• 2:04
  own
• 2:05
  network,
• 2:06
  the
• 2:06
  Happy
• 2:06
  Day
• 2:06
  Ministries,
• 2:07
  that
• 2:07
  still
• 2:07
  go
• 2:07
  by
• 2:07
  that
• 2:08
  name,
• 2:08
  right?
• 2:09
  Oh,
• 2:09
  it's
• 2:10
  KFM
• 2:10
  Media.
• 2:11
  Okay.
• 2:11
  I
• 2:11
  was
• 2:11
  just
• 2:11
  thinking
• 2:11
  like
• 2:12
  something
• 2:12
  about
• 2:12
  that
• 2:12
  sounded
• 2:13
  wrong.
• 2:13
  Kfm.
• 2:14
  Okay,
• 2:14
  so
• 2:14
  it's
• 2:14
  KFM
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  Media
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  and
• 2:16
  that's
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  just
• 2:17
  your
• 2:18
  network,
• 2:18
  similar
• 2:18
  to
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  how
• 2:19
  we
• 2:19
  have
• 2:19
  the
• 2:19
  Anazole
• 2:19
  podcast
• 2:20
  network.
• 2:20
  Is
• 2:20
  there
• 2:20
  anything
• 2:21
  you
• 2:21
  want
• 2:21
  to
• 2:21
  say
• 2:21
  about
• 2:21
  that
• 2:22
  or
• 2:22
  your
• 2:22
  comic
• 2:22
  Book
• 2:22
  One
• 2:22
  before
• 2:23
  I
• 2:23
  introduce
• 2:23
  our
• 2:23
  other
• 2:23
  guest?
• 2:25
  Yeah,
• 2:25
  I
• 2:25
  mean
• 2:25
  it's
• 2:25
  a
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  one
• 2:26
  stop
• 2:26
  shop
• 2:26
  for
• 2:27
  teaching
• 2:28
  fandom,
• 2:29
  Compelling
• 2:30
  writing,
• 2:30
  the
• 2:30
  whole
• 2:31
  nine
• 2:31
  yards.
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  If
• 2:32
  you're
• 2:32
  a
• 2:32
  fan
• 2:32
  of
• 2:33
  the
• 2:33
  sort
• 2:33
  of
• 2:33
  thing
• 2:34
  that
• 2:34
  you
• 2:34
  get
• 2:34
  over
• 2:35
  here
• 2:35
  at
• 2:35
  Amazon,
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  I
• 2:36
  think
• 2:36
  you're,
• 2:37
  you'll,
• 2:37
  you'll
• 2:37
  find
• 2:38
  something
• 2:38
  that
• 2:38
  you
• 2:38
  appreciate
• 2:39
  over
• 2:39
  a
• 2:39
  kfm.
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  Yeah,
• 2:40
  yeah,
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  especially
• 2:41
  I
• 2:42
  feel
• 2:42
  like
• 2:42
  you
• 2:42
  guys
• 2:43
  lean
• 2:43
  more
• 2:43
  into
• 2:44
  the
• 2:44
  practical
• 2:44
  aspects
• 2:45
  and
• 2:45
  I'm
• 2:45
  like,
• 2:45
  who
• 2:46
  needs
• 2:46
  to
• 2:46
  be
• 2:46
  practical?
• 2:48
  Yep.
• 2:49
  Yeah,
• 2:50
  I
• 2:50
  make
• 2:50
  all
• 2:50
  kinds
• 2:50
  of
• 2:50
  great
• 2:51
  decisions.
• 2:51
  And
• 2:51
  then
• 2:51
  your
• 2:52
  new
• 2:52
  comic
• 2:52
  book
• 2:52
  one,
• 2:52
  what
• 2:53
  was
• 2:53
  the
• 2:53
  name
• 2:53
  of
• 2:53
  that?
• 2:54
  Understanding
• 2:55
  Comics.
• 2:56
  So
• 2:56
  the
• 2:57
  whole
• 2:57
  idea
• 2:58
  is
• 2:58
  that
• 2:58
  comics
• 2:59
  can
• 2:59
  be
• 3:00
  a
• 3:00
  big
• 3:00
  daunting
• 3:01
  thing,
• 3:01
  especially
• 3:02
  now
• 3:02
  when
• 3:02
  you
• 3:02
  also
• 3:03
  add
• 3:03
  on
• 3:03
  the
• 3:03
  MCU
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  having
• 3:05
  a
• 3:05
  million
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  movies
• 3:06
  under
• 3:07
  its
• 3:07
  belt
• 3:07
  and
• 3:07
  all
• 3:08
  of
• 3:08
  that.
• 3:08
  There's
• 3:08
  a
• 3:08
  lot
• 3:08
  of
• 3:09
  people
• 3:09
  who
• 3:09
  are
• 3:09
  interested
• 3:10
  in
• 3:10
  the
• 3:10
  medium
• 3:10
  but
• 3:11
  have
• 3:11
  absolutely
• 3:12
  no
• 3:12
  idea
• 3:12
  where
• 3:12
  to
• 3:12
  start.
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  So
• 3:13
  the
• 3:14
  whole
• 3:14
  thing
• 3:14
  is
• 3:15
  having
• 3:15
  conversations
• 3:16
  to
• 3:17
  hopefully
• 3:17
  better
• 3:18
  understand
• 3:18
  comics.
• 3:19
  Nice,
• 3:19
  nice.
• 3:20
  Yeah,
• 3:20
  I
• 3:20
  think
• 3:20
  a
• 3:20
  lot
• 3:21
  of
• 3:21
  our
• 3:21
  listeners
• 3:21
  will
• 3:21
  probably
• 3:21
  appreciate
• 3:22
  that.
• 3:22
  So
• 3:22
  hopefully
• 3:23
  I'll
• 3:23
  get
• 3:23
  a
• 3:23
  link,
• 3:23
  put
• 3:24
  it
• 3:24
  below
• 3:24
  and
• 3:24
  they
• 3:24
  could
• 3:24
  check
• 3:25
  that
• 3:25
  out.
• 3:25
  Of
• 3:25
  course,
• 3:26
  I
• 3:26
  mentioned
• 3:26
  we
• 3:26
  have
• 3:26
  another
• 3:26
  guest.
• 3:27
  I'm
• 3:27
  here
• 3:27
  with
• 3:27
  the
• 3:27
  one
• 3:27
  and
• 3:28
  only
• 3:28
  sensei
• 3:29
  and
• 3:29
  pastor
• 3:30
  and
• 3:30
  good
• 3:31
  friend
• 3:31
  and,
• 3:32
  and
• 3:32
  one
• 3:32
  of
• 3:32
  the
• 3:32
  founders
• 3:33
  of
• 3:33
  Systematic
• 3:33
  Ecology,
• 3:34
  Brandon
• 3:35
  Knight,
• 3:36
  host
• 3:36
  of
• 3:36
  Kung
• 3:36
  Fu
• 3:37
  Pizza
• 3:37
  Party
• 3:37
  and
• 3:38
  My
• 3:38
  Seminary
• 3:38
  Life,
• 3:39
  both
• 3:39
  on
• 3:40
  Anazzow
• 3:40
  Podcast
• 3:41
  Network.
• 3:41
  Brandon,
• 3:41
  you
• 3:42
  want
• 3:42
  to
• 3:42
  talk
• 3:42
  any
• 3:42
  about
• 3:42
  your
• 3:42
  shows,
• 3:43
  introduce
• 3:43
  yourself
• 3:43
  or
• 3:44
  you
• 3:44
  think
• 3:45
  they
• 3:45
  know
• 3:45
  who
• 3:45
  you
• 3:45
  are
• 3:45
  and
• 3:46
  get
• 3:46
  over
• 3:46
  it?
• 3:47
  I
• 3:48
  think
• 3:48
  they
• 3:48
  know
• 3:48
  who
• 3:48
  I
• 3:48
  am,
• 3:49
  but
• 3:49
  in
• 3:49
  case
• 3:50
  not,
• 3:50
  what
• 3:51
  Josh
• 3:51
  said
• 3:51
  was
• 3:52
  very
• 3:52
  accurate.
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  have
• 3:53
  two
• 3:53
  shows
• 3:54
  here
• 3:54
  on
• 3:54
  Anazzow,
• 3:55
  My
• 3:56
  Seminary
• 3:56
  Life,
• 3:56
  which
• 3:56
  chronicled
• 3:58
  my
• 3:58
  journey
• 3:59
  through
• 3:59
  finishing
• 3:59
  up
• 4:00
  my
• 4:01
  master's
• 4:01
  degree,
• 4:02
  that
• 4:02
  was
• 4:02
  going
• 4:02
  on
• 4:02
  during
• 4:03
  the
• 4:03
  early
• 4:03
  days
• 4:03
  of
• 4:04
  systematic
• 4:04
  ecology
• 4:05
  as
• 4:05
  well,
• 4:06
  and
• 4:06
  now
• 4:06
  is
• 4:07
  more
• 4:07
  of
• 4:07
  a
• 4:07
  this
• 4:07
  is
• 4:08
  what
• 4:08
  I'm
• 4:08
  studying
• 4:09
  and
• 4:09
  you
• 4:10
  get
• 4:10
  to
• 4:10
  hear
• 4:10
  about
• 4:10
  it
• 4:11
  now,
• 4:11
  kind
• 4:11
  of
• 4:11
  personal
• 4:12
  reflection
• 4:12
  on
• 4:13
  the
• 4:13
  things
• 4:13
  I'm
• 4:14
  watching.
• 4:14
  Reading
• 4:14
  all
• 4:15
  that.
• 4:15
  Kung
• 4:15
  Fu
• 4:16
  Pizza
• 4:16
  Party
• 4:17
  promises
• 4:17
  to
• 4:17
  deliver
• 4:18
  high
• 4:18
  flying
• 4:18
  action
• 4:19
  in
• 4:19
  30
• 4:19
  minutes
• 4:19
  or
• 4:20
  less
• 4:20
  and
• 4:20
  serve
• 4:20
  up
• 4:20
  some
• 4:21
  wisdom
• 4:21
  one
• 4:22
  slice
• 4:22
  at
• 4:22
  a
• 4:22
  time,
• 4:23
  basically
• 4:24
  through
• 4:25
  reviewing
• 4:25
  Kung
• 4:26
  Fu
• 4:26
  Ninja
• 4:27
  and
• 4:27
  Samurai
• 4:27
  films
• 4:28
  and
• 4:28
  other
• 4:28
  martial
• 4:29
  art
• 4:29
  media
• 4:30
  as
• 4:30
  well.
• 4:30
  Yeah,
• 4:31
  yeah.
• 4:31
  Nice.
• 4:32
  Nice.
• 4:32
  Yeah.
• 4:32
  And
• 4:33
  you
• 4:33
  guys
• 4:33
  know
• 4:33
  we
• 4:34
  do
• 4:34
  always
• 4:34
  like
• 4:34
  to
• 4:34
  start
• 4:35
  with
• 4:35
  what
• 4:35
  we're
• 4:35
  geeking
• 4:35
  out
• 4:35
  on.
• 4:36
  So
• 4:36
  I'm
• 4:36
  going
• 4:36
  to
• 4:36
  put
• 4:36
  all
• 4:37
  their
• 4:37
  links
• 4:37
  down
• 4:37
  below
• 4:38
  in
• 4:38
  the
• 4:38
  description
• 4:38
  as
• 4:38
  well
• 4:39
  as
• 4:39
  links
• 4:39
  to
• 4:39
  some
• 4:39
  of
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  episodes
• 4:40
  they
• 4:40
  used
• 4:40
  to
• 4:40
  do.
• 4:41
  So
• 4:41
  if
• 4:41
  you
• 4:41
  want
• 4:41
  to
• 4:41
  hear
• 4:42
  some
• 4:42
  of
• 4:42
  the
• 4:42
  earlier
• 4:42
  episodes
• 4:43
  with
• 4:43
  us
• 4:43
  three
• 4:44
  geeking
• 4:44
  out
• 4:44
  together,
• 4:45
  you
• 4:45
  can
• 4:45
  find
• 4:45
  them
• 4:46
  down
• 4:46
  below.
• 4:47
  For
• 4:48
  now,
• 4:48
  what
• 4:48
  I've
• 4:48
  been
• 4:48
  geeking
• 4:49
  out
• 4:49
  on
• 4:49
  actually
• 4:50
  just
• 4:50
  finished.
• 4:51
  Again,
• 4:51
  I've
• 4:52
  watched
• 4:52
  the
• 4:52
  show
• 4:52
  so
• 4:52
  many
• 4:53
  times,
• 4:53
  Adventure
• 4:53
  Time.
• 4:54
  But
• 4:55
  it
• 4:55
  was
• 4:55
  an
• 4:56
  interesting
• 4:56
  caveat
• 4:56
  because
• 4:57
  previously
• 4:58
  my
• 4:58
  first
• 4:58
  time
• 4:58
  watching
• 4:59
  it,
• 4:59
  weirdly
• 4:59
  enough,
• 4:59
  my
• 4:59
  first
• 4:59
  time
• 5:00
  watching
• 5:00
  it
• 5:00
  was
• 5:00
  because
• 5:00
  of
• 5:00
  a
• 5:00
  girl.
• 5:02
  And
• 5:02
  every
• 5:02
  time
• 5:03
  since
• 5:03
  that
• 5:03
  I've
• 5:03
  watched
• 5:03
  it
• 5:04
  all
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  way
• 5:04
  through,
• 5:04
  it's
• 5:05
  because
• 5:05
  it's
• 5:05
  like
• 5:05
  my
• 5:05
  comfort
• 5:06
  show.
• 5:06
  So
• 5:06
  I'll
• 5:06
  get
• 5:06
  sick
• 5:07
  and
• 5:07
  I'm
• 5:07
  like,
• 5:07
  I'm
• 5:08
  gonna
• 5:08
  be
• 5:08
  taking
• 5:08
  a
• 5:08
  lot
• 5:08
  of
• 5:08
  NyQuil
• 5:09
  and
• 5:09
  when
• 5:10
  I'm
• 5:10
  awake,
• 5:10
  this
• 5:10
  show
• 5:11
  will
• 5:11
  be
• 5:11
  on
• 5:11
  the
• 5:11
  TV.
• 5:13
  Dude,
• 5:13
  watching
• 5:14
  Adventure
• 5:14
  Time
• 5:15
  on
• 5:15
  NyQuil.
• 5:17
  Yeah,
• 5:17
  yeah,
• 5:18
  it's
• 5:18
  wild.
• 5:18
  But
• 5:19
  this
• 5:19
  time
• 5:20
  my
• 5:20
  wife
• 5:20
  wanted
• 5:20
  to
• 5:21
  actually
• 5:21
  see
• 5:21
  the
• 5:21
  full
• 5:21
  story
• 5:22
  because,
• 5:22
  like,
• 5:22
  you
• 5:22
  know,
• 5:22
  it
• 5:22
  has
• 5:22
  like
• 5:23
  pretty
• 5:23
  cool
• 5:23
  story
• 5:24
  arc
• 5:24
  near
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  end
• 5:24
  and
• 5:25
  we
• 5:25
  watched
• 5:25
  it
• 5:26
  intentionally
• 5:26
  without
• 5:27
  nyquil
• 5:28
  and
• 5:29
  just
• 5:29
  to
• 5:29
  see
• 5:29
  what
• 5:30
  the
• 5:30
  story
• 5:30
  was.
• 5:30
  And
• 5:30
  man,
• 5:31
  it's
• 5:32
  just.
• 5:32
  It's
• 5:32
  incredible.
• 5:32
  The
• 5:33
  whole
• 5:33
  series
• 5:33
  is
• 5:33
  incredible.
• 5:34
  I
• 5:34
  love
• 5:34
  it.
• 5:35
  So
• 5:35
  that's
• 5:35
  what
• 5:35
  I've
• 5:35
  been
• 5:35
  geeking
• 5:35
  out
• 5:35
  on.
• 5:36
  I'm
• 5:36
  getting
• 5:36
  into
• 5:36
  some
• 5:36
  of
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  comic
• 5:37
  books
• 5:37
  and
• 5:37
  other
• 5:37
  stuff
• 5:37
  around
• 5:37
  the
• 5:38
  series
• 5:38
  too,
• 5:38
  so
• 5:39
  it's
• 5:39
  been
• 5:39
  fun.
• 5:40
  Brandon,
• 5:41
  what
• 5:41
  have
• 5:41
  you
• 5:41
  been
• 5:42
  geeking
• 5:42
  out
• 5:42
  on?
• 5:43
  Well,
• 5:44
  here.
• 5:44
  What
• 5:45
  should
• 5:45
  I
• 5:45
  talk
• 5:45
  about?
• 5:46
  I.
• 5:47
  After
• 5:47
  years
• 5:48
  of
• 5:48
  fighting
• 5:49
  it
• 5:49
  off,
• 5:50
  I
• 5:50
  finally
• 5:51
  decided
• 5:51
  to
• 5:52
  give
• 5:52
  King
• 5:52
  of
• 5:52
  the
• 5:52
  Hill
• 5:53
  a
• 5:53
  try.
• 5:54
  I
• 5:55
  never,
• 5:56
  I
• 5:56
  never
• 5:57
  cared
• 5:58
  for
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  animation.
• 5:59
  I
• 6:00
  don't
• 6:00
  like
• 6:00
  Beavis
• 6:01
  and
• 6:01
  Butthead.
• 6:01
  And
• 6:02
  that's,
• 6:02
  you
• 6:02
  know,
• 6:02
  another.
• 6:02
  The
• 6:03
  other
• 6:03
  Mike
• 6:03
  Judge
• 6:04
  program.
• 6:05
  And
• 6:06
  finally,
• 6:06
  the
• 6:07
  algorithm
• 6:07
  won
• 6:07
  me
• 6:08
  over.
• 6:08
  I
• 6:08
  started
• 6:08
  seeing
• 6:09
  more
• 6:09
  clips
• 6:10
  online.
• 6:10
  It
• 6:11
  was
• 6:11
  about
• 6:11
  the
• 6:11
  time
• 6:12
  when
• 6:13
  Hulu's
• 6:14
  newest
• 6:14
  revamp
• 6:15
  of
• 6:15
  the
• 6:15
  show
• 6:15
  was
• 6:16
  going
• 6:16
  to
• 6:16
  be
• 6:16
  debuting.
• 6:17
  So
• 6:18
  I
• 6:18
  was
• 6:18
  like,
• 6:18
  all
• 6:18
  right,
• 6:18
  fine,
• 6:18
  I'll
• 6:19
  give
• 6:19
  this
• 6:19
  a
• 6:19
  try.
• 6:19
  And
• 6:20
  I
• 6:20
  actually
• 6:20
  have
• 6:20
  really
• 6:21
  enjoyed
• 6:21
  it.
• 6:21
  I'm
• 6:21
  not
• 6:22
  too
• 6:22
  far
• 6:22
  in.
• 6:22
  Like,
• 6:23
  I
• 6:24
  think
• 6:24
  I
• 6:24
  just
• 6:24
  started
• 6:25
  season
• 6:25
  two
• 6:25
  pretty
• 6:26
  recently.
• 6:26
  So
• 6:26
  no
• 6:26
  spoilers.
• 6:27
  Yeah,
• 6:28
  no
• 6:28
  spoilers,
• 6:29
  please.
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  am
• 6:31
  very
• 6:32
  excited
• 6:32
  for
• 6:33
  getting
• 6:33
  to
• 6:34
  some
• 6:34
  of
• 6:34
  the,
• 6:34
  like,
• 6:34
  social
• 6:35
  media
• 6:35
  references,
• 6:37
  especially
• 6:37
  when
• 6:38
  he
• 6:38
  pulls
• 6:39
  up
• 6:39
  to.
• 6:39
  Excuse
• 6:40
  me,
• 6:40
  is
• 6:41
  this
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  cult?
• 6:41
  We're
• 6:42
  not
• 6:42
  a
• 6:42
  cult.
• 6:42
  We're
• 6:43
  a
• 6:43
  collection
• 6:44
  of
• 6:44
  like
• 6:44
  minded,
• 6:44
  reminded
• 6:45
  people.
• 6:45
  Yeah,
• 6:45
  this
• 6:45
  is
• 6:46
  it.
• 6:46
  Like,
• 6:47
  I'm
• 6:47
  really
• 6:47
  looking
• 6:47
  forward
• 6:47
  to
• 6:48
  getting
• 6:48
  to
• 6:48
  that
• 6:48
  episode.
• 6:50
  Yeah,
• 6:50
  I.
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  love
• 6:51
  the
• 6:51
  show,
• 6:52
  but
• 6:52
  I
• 6:52
  do
• 6:52
  agree.
• 6:52
  I
• 6:52
  think
• 6:53
  the
• 6:53
  animation
• 6:53
  style
• 6:54
  is
• 6:54
  my
• 6:54
  least
• 6:54
  favorite
• 6:55
  part
• 6:55
  still.
• 6:56
  But
• 6:56
  the
• 6:57
  propane
• 6:57
  stuff,
• 6:57
  Listen,
• 6:57
  I'm
• 6:58
  a
• 6:58
  charcoal
• 6:58
  guy,
• 6:58
  but
• 6:59
  his
• 6:59
  whole
• 6:59
  thing
• 6:59
  of
• 6:59
  propane
• 7:00
  just
• 7:00
  all.
• 7:00
  It
• 7:00
  makes
• 7:01
  me
• 7:01
  so
• 7:01
  happy.
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  love
• 7:02
  stuff.
• 7:02
  Agreed.
• 7:03
  Yeah,
• 7:03
  that's
• 7:03
  classic
• 7:04
  comedy.
• 7:04
  Joe,
• 7:05
  what
• 7:05
  have
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  been
• 7:05
  geeking
• 7:05
  out
• 7:06
  on
• 7:06
  lately,
• 7:06
  man?
• 7:07
  My
• 7:08
  wife
• 7:08
  and
• 7:08
  I
• 7:08
  are
• 7:09
  going
• 7:09
  back
• 7:09
  and
• 7:10
  forth
• 7:10
  doing
• 7:10
  a
• 7:11
  season
• 7:11
  of
• 7:12
  Buffy
• 7:12
  and
• 7:13
  Angel
• 7:13
  and
• 7:13
  then
• 7:14
  doing
• 7:14
  a
• 7:14
  season
• 7:14
  of
• 7:15
  the
• 7:15
  Arrowverse.
• 7:16
  So
• 7:16
  I've
• 7:16
  been
• 7:16
  getting.
• 7:17
  I'm
• 7:17
  watching
• 7:17
  through
• 7:18
  Buffy
• 7:18
  for
• 7:18
  the
• 7:18
  first
• 7:18
  time
• 7:19
  in
• 7:19
  full
• 7:20
  totality.
• 7:20
  I've
• 7:20
  seen
• 7:20
  random
• 7:21
  episodes,
• 7:21
  but
• 7:21
  this
• 7:21
  is
• 7:22
  my
• 7:22
  first
• 7:22
  full
• 7:22
  watch
• 7:22
  through
• 7:23
  of
• 7:23
  it.
• 7:24
  And
• 7:24
  then
• 7:24
  it
• 7:25
  is
• 7:25
  a
• 7:25
  fascinating
• 7:26
  experience
• 7:27
  to
• 7:28
  figure
• 7:28
  out
• 7:29
  just
• 7:29
  how
• 7:30
  much
• 7:30
  I
• 7:31
  forgave
• 7:31
  when
• 7:32
  the
• 7:32
  Arrowverse
• 7:33
  was
• 7:33
  happening
• 7:33
  in
• 7:34
  real
• 7:34
  time
• 7:35
  because
• 7:36
  it
• 7:36
  is
• 7:37
  a
• 7:37
  trip
• 7:37
  to
• 7:38
  go
• 7:38
  back
• 7:38
  through
• 7:38
  that
• 7:39
  universe.
• 7:40
  Yeah,
• 7:40
  I
• 7:40
  love
• 7:41
  their.
• 7:41
  How
• 7:41
  they
• 7:41
  did
• 7:41
  the
• 7:41
  characters.
• 7:42
  But,
• 7:42
  yeah,
• 7:43
  going
• 7:43
  back
• 7:43
  a
• 7:44
  lot,
• 7:44
  there
• 7:44
  are
• 7:44
  a
• 7:44
  lot
• 7:44
  of
• 7:44
  shows
• 7:44
  on
• 7:45
  CW
• 7:45
  that
• 7:45
  are
• 7:46
  hard
• 7:46
  for
• 7:46
  me
• 7:46
  to
• 7:46
  rewatch.
• 7:47
  I
• 7:48
  think
• 7:48
  some
• 7:48
  of
• 7:48
  the
• 7:48
  Arrowverse
• 7:49
  stuff
• 7:49
  is,
• 7:49
  for
• 7:49
  me,
• 7:50
  Buffy.
• 7:51
  Like,
• 7:51
  I
• 7:51
  like
• 7:52
  Buffy
• 7:52
  as
• 7:52
  a
• 7:53
  concept,
• 7:53
  as
• 7:53
  a
• 7:53
  whole.
• 7:54
  But
• 7:54
  it
• 7:54
  turns
• 7:54
  out
• 7:54
  I
• 7:54
  really
• 7:55
  only
• 7:55
  like
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  latter
• 7:56
  seasons
• 7:56
  when,
• 7:56
  like,
• 7:56
  the
• 7:56
  storytelling
• 7:57
  is
• 7:57
  more
• 7:57
  like
• 7:58
  a
• 7:58
  story
• 7:59
  and
• 7:59
  not
• 7:59
  episodic.
• 8:00
  I
• 8:01
  have
• 8:01
  been
• 8:01
  ruined
• 8:02
  by
• 8:02
  our
• 8:02
  modern
• 8:02
  times,
• 8:03
  and
• 8:03
  I
• 8:03
  find
• 8:03
  episodic
• 8:04
  TV
• 8:04
  really
• 8:04
  hard.
• 8:05
  Unless
• 8:05
  it's
• 8:05
  Adventure
• 8:06
  Time,
• 8:06
  apparently.
• 8:06
  I
• 8:07
  was
• 8:07
  fine
• 8:07
  with
• 8:07
  that.
• 8:08
  I
• 8:08
  don't
• 8:08
  know.
• 8:09
  I
• 8:09
  thought
• 8:10
  Joe
• 8:10
  was
• 8:10
  gonna
• 8:10
  really
• 8:11
  lean
• 8:11
  in
• 8:11
  people.
• 8:12
  Yeah,
• 8:13
  I
• 8:13
  thought
• 8:13
  Joe
• 8:13
  was
• 8:14
  really
• 8:14
  gonna
• 8:14
  lean
• 8:14
  into
• 8:14
  the
• 8:15
  90s
• 8:15
  and
• 8:15
  say,
• 8:16
  like,
• 8:18
  Buffy,
• 8:18
  angel,
• 8:19
  and
• 8:19
  then
• 8:19
  like
• 8:20
  Xena
• 8:20
  or
• 8:21
  Charmed
• 8:22
  or
• 8:22
  something.
• 8:22
  Just
• 8:23
  like,
• 8:23
  I
• 8:23
  want
• 8:23
  to
• 8:23
  watch
• 8:24
  Xena
• 8:24
  now.
• 8:25
  I
• 8:26
  haven't
• 8:26
  seen
• 8:27
  that
• 8:27
  show
• 8:27
  in
• 8:27
  a
• 8:27
  while.
• 8:28
  All
• 8:28
  right,
• 8:28
  guys,
• 8:28
  come
• 8:29
  back
• 8:29
  next
• 8:29
  year.
• 8:29
  Our
• 8:29
  Easter
• 8:30
  special
• 8:30
  on
• 8:30
  Xena.
• 8:31
  Don't
• 8:31
  ask
• 8:31
  how
• 8:31
  we're
• 8:31
  gonna
• 8:32
  do
• 8:32
  it.
• 8:32
  Yep.
• 8:34
  Let's
• 8:34
  go.
• 8:35
  Oh,
• 8:36
  man.
• 8:36
  For
• 8:36
  now,
• 8:36
  though,
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  do
• 8:37
  want
• 8:37
  to
• 8:37
  ask
• 8:37
  everybody
• 8:37
  to
• 8:38
  consider
• 8:38
  rating
• 8:38
  and
• 8:38
  reviewing
• 8:39
  our
• 8:40
  show,
• 8:40
  says
• 8:40
  Mike
• 8:40
  Ecology,
• 8:41
  wherever
• 8:41
  you're
• 8:41
  listening,
• 8:42
  Spotify,
• 8:42
  Apple,
• 8:42
  Podcasts,
• 8:43
  wherever.
• 8:43
  It
• 8:43
  does
• 8:44
  not
• 8:44
  take
• 8:44
  long
• 8:44
  and
• 8:45
  it
• 8:45
  does
• 8:45
  help
• 8:45
  a
• 8:45
  lot
• 8:45
  with
• 8:46
  algorithms
• 8:46
  and
• 8:46
  stuff.
• 8:47
  Supposedly
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  don't
• 8:48
  know
• 8:48
  enough.
• 8:49
  I'm
• 8:49
  just
• 8:49
  told
• 8:49
  things
• 8:49
  and
• 8:50
  I
• 8:50
  nod
• 8:50
  my
• 8:50
  head
• 8:50
  and
• 8:51
  go,
• 8:51
  okay,
• 8:51
  I'll
• 8:51
  say
• 8:51
  that.
• 8:54
  Also
• 8:54
  want
• 8:54
  to
• 8:54
  shout
• 8:54
  out
• 8:54
  one
• 8:55
  of
• 8:55
  our
• 8:55
  financial
• 8:55
  supporters,
• 8:56
  James
• 8:56
  Barrett.
• 8:57
  James,
• 8:57
  you're
• 8:57
  amazing.
• 8:58
  I
• 8:58
  hope
• 8:58
  you're
• 8:58
  having
• 8:58
  a
• 8:58
  wonderful
• 8:59
  Easter
• 8:59
  today.
• 9:00
  That
• 9:00
  will
• 9:00
  preached
• 9:01
  a
• 9:01
  good
• 9:01
  sermon
• 9:02
  if
• 9:02
  he
• 9:02
  didn't
• 9:03
  deduct
• 9:03
  it
• 9:04
  from
• 9:04
  his
• 9:04
  Systematic
• 9:05
  Ecology
• 9:05
  pay,
• 9:06
  which
• 9:06
  is
• 9:06
  nothing,
• 9:07
  but
• 9:07
  it's
• 9:07
  fine.
• 9:09
  But
• 9:09
  James,
• 9:09
  we
• 9:09
  do
• 9:09
  appreciate
• 9:10
  you
• 9:10
  and
• 9:10
  listeners,
• 9:10
  if
• 9:10
  you
• 9:10
  want
• 9:11
  your
• 9:11
  own
• 9:11
  shout
• 9:11
  out,
• 9:11
  you
• 9:11
  too
• 9:12
  can
• 9:12
  become
• 9:12
  an
• 9:12
  official
• 9:12
  member
• 9:12
  of
• 9:13
  Systematic
• 9:13
  Ecology
• 9:14
  on
• 9:14
  our
• 9:14
  website.
• 9:14
  That's
• 9:15
  down
• 9:15
  below
• 9:15
  in
• 9:15
  the
• 9:15
  description.
• 9:17
  And
• 9:17
  yeah,
• 9:17
  there's
• 9:17
  a
• 9:18
  lot
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  cool
• 9:18
  stuff
• 9:18
  over
• 9:18
  there.
• 9:19
  Even
• 9:19
  if
• 9:19
  you
• 9:19
  don't
• 9:20
  become
• 9:20
  a
• 9:20
  pain
• 9:21
  member,
• 9:21
  you
• 9:21
  can
• 9:21
  become
• 9:21
  a
• 9:21
  free
• 9:22
  member
• 9:22
  to
• 9:22
  get
• 9:22
  some
• 9:22
  content.
• 9:23
  You
• 9:23
  can
• 9:23
  see
• 9:23
  some
• 9:23
  of
• 9:23
  our
• 9:23
  T
• 9:24
  shirts,
• 9:24
  other
• 9:25
  just
• 9:25
  stuff
• 9:26
  that
• 9:26
  we
• 9:26
  put
• 9:26
  out
• 9:26
  there
• 9:26
  is
• 9:26
  all
• 9:27
  on
• 9:27
  that
• 9:27
  website
• 9:27
  there.
• 9:28
  The
• 9:28
  shirt
• 9:28
  I'm
• 9:29
  wearing
• 9:29
  right
• 9:29
  now
• 9:29
  actually
• 9:30
  is
• 9:30
  from
• 9:31
  part
• 9:31
  of
• 9:31
  the
• 9:32
  series
• 9:32
  we're
• 9:32
  talking
• 9:33
  about
• 9:33
  today.
• 9:34
  It's
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  faces
• 9:36
  behind
• 9:36
  us
• 9:37
  and
• 9:37
  it
• 9:38
  kind
• 9:38
  of
• 9:38
  shows
• 9:38
  a
• 9:39
  little
• 9:39
  bit
• 9:39
  of
• 9:39
  some
• 9:40
  of
• 9:40
  the
• 9:40
  characters.
• 9:40
  We're
• 9:40
  talking
• 9:40
  about
• 9:41
  ish
• 9:41
  people
• 9:41
  who
• 9:41
  look
• 9:42
  like
• 9:42
  the
• 9:42
  characters.
• 9:44
  But
• 9:44
  you
• 9:45
  know,
• 9:45
  this
• 9:45
  series
• 9:45
  we're
• 9:45
  just
• 9:46
  talking
• 9:46
  about
• 9:46
  people
• 9:46
  who
• 9:46
  inspired
• 9:47
  the
• 9:47
  main
• 9:47
  characters
• 9:48
  in
• 9:48
  some
• 9:48
  of
• 9:48
  our
• 9:48
  franchises.
• 9:49
  So
• 9:49
  this
• 9:49
  is
• 9:49
  our
• 9:49
  annual
• 9:49
  theme.
• 9:50
  If
• 9:50
  you
• 9:50
  want
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  get
• 9:50
  that
• 9:50
  T
• 9:51
  shirt,
• 9:51
  it's
• 9:52
  also
• 9:52
  available
• 9:52
  on
• 9:52
  the
• 9:52
  site.
• 9:53
  Again,
• 9:53
  I
• 9:53
  think
• 9:53
  it
• 9:54
  looks
• 9:54
  really
• 9:54
  good
• 9:54
  in
• 9:54
  purple.
• 9:55
  We
• 9:55
  don't
• 9:55
  have
• 9:55
  a
• 9:55
  lot
• 9:55
  of
• 9:55
  shirts
• 9:56
  that
• 9:56
  look
• 9:56
  good
• 9:56
  in
• 9:56
  purple,
• 9:56
  so
• 9:57
  if
• 9:57
  you
• 9:58
  like
• 9:58
  purple,
• 9:58
  this
• 9:59
  is
• 9:59
  your
• 9:59
  shirt.
• 10:00
  Yeah,
• 10:01
  of
• 10:01
  course.
• 10:02
  Coming
• 10:02
  up
• 10:02
  next,
• 10:03
  as
• 10:03
  part
• 10:03
  of
• 10:03
  our
• 10:03
  annual
• 10:04
  theme,
• 10:04
  we
• 10:04
  will
• 10:04
  be
• 10:04
  discussing
• 10:05
  other
• 10:05
  Time
• 10:05
  Lords
• 10:06
  who
• 10:06
  inspired
• 10:06
  the
• 10:07
  Doctor
• 10:07
  and
• 10:07
  Doctor
• 10:08
  who.
• 10:08
  So
• 10:09
  that'll
• 10:09
  be
• 10:09
  on
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  main
• 10:09
  feed
• 10:09
  if
• 10:10
  you
• 10:10
  guys
• 10:10
  want
• 10:10
  to
• 10:10
  hear
• 10:11
  the
• 10:11
  next
• 10:11
  episode.
• 10:12
  I
• 10:12
  don't
• 10:12
  know
• 10:12
  who
• 10:13
  all's
• 10:13
  on
• 10:13
  it,
• 10:13
  but
• 10:13
  I'm
• 10:14
  hoping
• 10:14
  I'm
• 10:14
  on
• 10:14
  it.
• 10:15
  Should
• 10:15
  be
• 10:15
  on
• 10:15
  it
• 10:15
  if
• 10:15
  I'm
• 10:16
  not.
• 10:18
  So
• 10:18
  that's
• 10:18
  what
• 10:18
  we
• 10:18
  have
• 10:19
  to
• 10:19
  look
• 10:19
  forward
• 10:19
  to.
• 10:20
  But
• 10:21
  today
• 10:22
  we're
• 10:22
  gonna
• 10:22
  go
• 10:22
  ahead
• 10:23
  and
• 10:23
  jump
• 10:23
  right
• 10:24
  into
• 10:25
  something
• 10:26
  a
• 10:26
  little
• 10:26
  magical.
• 10:27
  Talking
• 10:28
  about,
• 10:29
  of
• 10:29
  course,
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  Chronicles
• 10:31
  of
• 10:31
  Narnia,
• 10:32
  which
• 10:32
  I'm
• 10:33
  infamous.
• 10:33
  One
• 10:33
  of
• 10:33
  my
• 10:33
  bad
• 10:33
  opinions
• 10:34
  is
• 10:34
  this
• 10:34
  is
• 10:34
  my
• 10:34
  least
• 10:35
  favorite
• 10:35
  thing
• 10:35
  that
• 10:35
  C.S.
• 10:36
  lewis
• 10:36
  wrote.
• 10:36
  So
• 10:36
  I
• 10:37
  brought
• 10:37
  two
• 10:37
  people
• 10:37
  who
• 10:37
  are
• 10:37
  better
• 10:37
  at
• 10:38
  it
• 10:38
  to
• 10:39
  join
• 10:39
  us.
• 10:40
  Also,
• 10:41
  I
• 10:41
  think
• 10:41
  I
• 10:42
  mentioned
• 10:42
  earlier
• 10:43
  the
• 10:43
  Annual
• 10:43
  theme
• 10:44
  faces
• 10:44
  behind
• 10:44
  us.
• 10:44
  The
• 10:45
  playlist
• 10:45
  for
• 10:45
  that
• 10:45
  is
• 10:45
  going
• 10:46
  to
• 10:46
  be
• 10:46
  in
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  show
• 10:46
  notes.
• 10:46
  I'm
• 10:47
  also
• 10:47
  going
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  include
• 10:47
  our
• 10:48
  very
• 10:48
  first
• 10:48
  annual
• 10:48
  theme
• 10:49
  that
• 10:49
  Joe
• 10:50
  proposed
• 10:50
  and
• 10:50
  Brandon
• 10:51
  helped
• 10:51
  make
• 10:51
  happen
• 10:52
  was
• 10:53
  the
• 10:53
  Year
• 10:53
  of
• 10:53
  Lewis.
• 10:54
  So
• 10:54
  I'll
• 10:54
  put
• 10:54
  a
• 10:55
  playlist
• 10:55
  for
• 10:55
  that
• 10:55
  too,
• 10:55
  if
• 10:55
  you
• 10:55
  guys
• 10:56
  want
• 10:56
  to
• 10:56
  go
• 10:56
  back
• 10:56
  and
• 10:56
  hear
• 10:56
  some
• 10:56
  of
• 10:57
  our
• 10:57
  Narnia
• 10:58
  chats.
• 10:58
  Not
• 10:59
  that
• 10:59
  far
• 10:59
  back.
• 11:00
  Yes.
• 11:01
  21,
• 11:02
  22.
• 11:02
  Yep.
• 11:04
  Well,
• 11:04
  I'm
• 11:04
  gonna
• 11:04
  throw
• 11:05
  it
• 11:05
  to
• 11:05
  Joe
• 11:05
  because
• 11:05
  Joe's
• 11:06
  the
• 11:06
  big
• 11:06
  Narnia
• 11:07
  head
• 11:07
  in
• 11:07
  my
• 11:08
  mind.
• 11:09
  So
• 11:09
  what
• 11:09
  is
• 11:09
  your
• 11:10
  history
• 11:10
  with
• 11:10
  C.S.
• 11:10
  lewis
• 11:11
  and
• 11:11
  with
• 11:11
  Narnia
• 11:12
  and
• 11:13
  just
• 11:13
  kind
• 11:13
  of
• 11:14
  introduce
• 11:14
  us
• 11:14
  to
• 11:14
  what's
• 11:14
  going
• 11:14
  on
• 11:15
  here.
• 11:16
  So
• 11:16
  first
• 11:16
  and
• 11:16
  foremost,
• 11:17
  as
• 11:17
  we
• 11:17
  get
• 11:17
  started,
• 11:18
  there's
• 11:18
  just.
• 11:18
  I
• 11:18
  gotta,
• 11:18
  I
• 11:19
  gotta
• 11:19
  see
• 11:19
  if
• 11:19
  I
• 11:19
  can
• 11:19
  still
• 11:19
  do
• 11:20
  this.
• 11:21
  What's
• 11:21
  up,
• 11:22
  you
• 11:22
  geeks?
• 11:22
  All
• 11:23
  right,
• 11:23
  so
• 11:23
  now
• 11:23
  that
• 11:23
  that's
• 11:23
  out
• 11:24
  of
• 11:24
  the
• 11:24
  way,
• 11:25
  we.
• 11:27
  So
• 11:29
  Narnia
• 11:29
  is
• 11:31
  a
• 11:31
  fantasy
• 11:32
  franchise
• 11:33
  that
• 11:34
  suffers
• 11:35
  most
• 11:35
  by
• 11:36
  being
• 11:36
  compared
• 11:36
  to
• 11:37
  its
• 11:37
  contemporaries.
• 11:38
  It
• 11:38
  is
• 11:38
  nothing
• 11:39
  like,
• 11:40
  like
• 11:40
  Lord
• 11:41
  of
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  Rings.
• 11:41
  It
• 11:42
  is
• 11:42
  nothing
• 11:42
  like
• 11:42
  Song
• 11:43
  of
• 11:43
  Ice
• 11:43
  and
• 11:43
  Fire.
• 11:43
  It
• 11:44
  is
• 11:44
  nothing
• 11:44
  like
• 11:45
  any
• 11:45
  of
• 11:45
  these
• 11:45
  other
• 11:46
  high
• 11:46
  fantasy
• 11:48
  worlds
• 11:49
  that,
• 11:50
  that
• 11:50
  it
• 11:51
  tends
• 11:51
  to
• 11:51
  live
• 11:52
  in
• 11:52
  the
• 11:52
  same
• 11:52
  conversation
• 11:53
  with.
• 11:53
  And
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  think
• 11:54
  part
• 11:54
  of
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  reason
• 11:54
  why
• 11:55
  you
• 11:55
  have
• 11:56
  so
• 11:56
  many
• 11:56
  different
• 11:59
  sharp
• 12:00
  one
• 12:00
  way
• 12:00
  or
• 12:00
  the
• 12:00
  other
• 12:01
  opinions
• 12:02
  on
• 12:02
  for
• 12:03
  or
• 12:03
  against
• 12:03
  Narnia
• 12:05
  is
• 12:05
  because
• 12:06
  it's
• 12:06
  not
• 12:07
  the
• 12:08
  same
• 12:08
  as
• 12:08
  these
• 12:09
  bigger
• 12:09
  franchises
• 12:10
  that
• 12:11
  are
• 12:11
  def.
• 12:11
  That
• 12:11
  definitely
• 12:12
  have
• 12:13
  a
• 12:13
  larger
• 12:13
  and
• 12:14
  much
• 12:14
  more
• 12:14
  rabid
• 12:15
  fan
• 12:15
  base
• 12:16
  than.
• 12:16
  Than
• 12:17
  generally
• 12:17
  Narnia
• 12:18
  attracts.
• 12:20
  Yeah,
• 12:20
  yeah,
• 12:20
  yeah,
• 12:21
  yeah.
• 12:21
  When
• 12:21
  did,
• 12:21
  when
• 12:22
  did
• 12:22
  you
• 12:22
  first
• 12:22
  get
• 12:23
  into
• 12:23
  these
• 12:23
  books?
• 12:23
  I
• 12:23
  know
• 12:23
  you
• 12:23
  didn't
• 12:24
  necessarily
• 12:24
  grow
• 12:24
  up
• 12:24
  the
• 12:25
  same
• 12:25
  kind
• 12:25
  of
• 12:25
  like
• 12:26
  household
• 12:26
  that
• 12:26
  I
• 12:26
  did.
• 12:27
  I
• 12:27
  know
• 12:28
  you
• 12:28
  have
• 12:28
  been
• 12:29
  a
• 12:29
  fan
• 12:29
  longer
• 12:29
  than.
• 12:29
  Than
• 12:30
  me
• 12:30
  books.
• 12:31
  Anyway,
• 12:32
  so.
• 12:33
  So
• 12:33
  fifth
• 12:33
  grade
• 12:34
  was
• 12:34
  the
• 12:35
  first
• 12:35
  time
• 12:35
  we
• 12:35
  read
• 12:35
  lion
• 12:36
  the
• 12:36
  Witch
• 12:36
  in
• 12:36
  the
• 12:36
  Wardrobe.
• 12:37
  After
• 12:37
  that,
• 12:38
  it
• 12:38
  wasn't
• 12:38
  until
• 12:40
  it
• 12:40
  was.
• 12:40
  It
• 12:40
  was
• 12:40
  after
• 12:41
  I
• 12:41
  became
• 12:42
  a
• 12:42
  Christian.
• 12:43
  And
• 12:43
  so
• 12:44
  we're
• 12:45
  talking,
• 12:46
  I
• 12:46
  don't
• 12:47
  know,
• 12:47
  probably
• 12:47
  seven,
• 12:47
  eight
• 12:48
  years
• 12:48
  ago
• 12:49
  was
• 12:49
  the
• 12:49
  first
• 12:49
  time
• 12:50
  I
• 12:50
  read
• 12:50
  through
• 12:50
  all
• 12:51
  of
• 12:51
  them
• 12:51
  and
• 12:52
  started,
• 12:52
  started
• 12:52
  at
• 12:53
  the
• 12:53
  first,
• 12:53
  went
• 12:53
  through
• 12:53
  the,
• 12:54
  went
• 12:54
  through
• 12:54
  the
• 12:54
  last,
• 12:54
  realized
• 12:56
  that
• 12:57
  it's
• 12:57
  an
• 12:57
  out
• 12:57
  of
• 12:57
  order
• 12:58
  story,
• 12:58
  then
• 12:58
  went
• 12:59
  back
• 12:59
  and
• 12:59
  read
• 12:59
  it
• 12:59
  in
• 13:00
  chronology
• 13:01
  and
• 13:02
  in
• 13:02
  the
• 13:02
  chronological
• 13:03
  order
• 13:04
  is
• 13:04
  where
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  absolutely
• 13:06
  fell
• 13:06
  in
• 13:06
  love
• 13:06
  with.
• 13:07
  With
• 13:07
  it.
• 13:08
  I
• 13:08
  also
• 13:08
  would
• 13:08
  say
• 13:09
  for
• 13:09
  anybody
• 13:09
  who
• 13:09
  hasn't
• 13:10
  experienced
• 13:10
  them
• 13:11
  narrated,
• 13:13
  if
• 13:13
  for
• 13:14
  nothing
• 13:14
  else,
• 13:15
  there
• 13:16
  is
• 13:16
  a
• 13:16
  copy
• 13:17
  out
• 13:17
  there
• 13:17
  of
• 13:18
  the
• 13:18
  Last
• 13:18
  battle
• 13:19
  that
• 13:19
  exists
• 13:19
  that
• 13:20
  is
• 13:20
  narrated
• 13:21
  by
• 13:21
  Jean
• 13:21
  Luc
• 13:22
  Picard
• 13:22
  and.
• 13:23
  And
• 13:23
  it
• 13:23
  is
• 13:24
  peak
• 13:24
  fandom.
• 13:25
  Yeah.
• 13:25
  Yeah,
• 13:26
  it
• 13:26
  is
• 13:26
  peak
• 13:27
  fandom.
• 13:27
  Yeah.
• 13:28
  That's.
• 13:28
  That's
• 13:28
  awesome.
• 13:29
  I.
• 13:30
  Yeah,
• 13:32
  so
• 13:32
  I
• 13:32
  mentioned
• 13:33
  my
• 13:34
  bad
• 13:34
  opinion
• 13:34
  is
• 13:34
  my
• 13:35
  least
• 13:35
  favorite
• 13:35
  of
• 13:35
  C.S.
• 13:35
  lewis's
• 13:36
  books.
• 13:36
  But
• 13:36
  I
• 13:37
  want
• 13:37
  to
• 13:37
  caveat
• 13:37
  that
• 13:37
  with
• 13:39
  it's
• 13:40
  still
• 13:41
  Lewis.
• 13:41
  Like,
• 13:42
  it's
• 13:42
  saying
• 13:42
  my
• 13:43
  least
• 13:43
  favorite
• 13:43
  of
• 13:43
  C.S.
• 13:43
  lewis's
• 13:44
  books
• 13:44
  isn't
• 13:44
  saying
• 13:44
  that
• 13:45
  I
• 13:45
  don't
• 13:45
  like
• 13:45
  it.
• 13:45
  I
• 13:45
  still
• 13:46
  really
• 13:46
  like
• 13:46
  it.
• 13:46
  I
• 13:47
  just
• 13:47
  happen
• 13:47
  to,
• 13:47
  like,
• 13:47
  screw
• 13:47
  tape
• 13:48
  letters
• 13:48
  and
• 13:48
  stuff
• 13:48
  a
• 13:48
  lot
• 13:48
  more.
• 13:50
  And
• 13:50
  then.
• 13:51
  And
• 13:51
  if
• 13:51
  we're
• 13:51
  doing
• 13:51
  it
• 13:52
  as
• 13:52
  a
• 13:52
  series
• 13:52
  as
• 13:52
  opposed
• 13:53
  to
• 13:53
  individual
• 13:53
  books,
• 13:53
  it's
• 13:54
  also
• 13:54
  different
• 13:54
  because
• 13:54
  individually,
• 13:55
  Voyage
• 13:56
  of
• 13:56
  the
• 13:56
  Dawn
• 13:56
  Treader,
• 13:57
  that's
• 13:57
  on
• 13:57
  up
• 13:58
  there.
• 13:58
  That
• 13:58
  might
• 13:58
  be
• 13:58
  one
• 13:58
  of
• 13:58
  my
• 13:59
  favorite
• 13:59
  CS
• 13:59
  Lewis
• 13:59
  books.
• 14:00
  It's
• 14:00
  just
• 14:00
  some
• 14:00
  of
• 14:00
  the
• 14:00
  surroundings
• 14:02
  that
• 14:02
  Magician
• 14:03
  Nephew
• 14:03
  I
• 14:03
  love.
• 14:03
  I
• 14:04
  actually
• 14:04
  am
• 14:04
  not
• 14:04
  a
• 14:04
  huge
• 14:04
  fan
• 14:04
  of
• 14:04
  lion,
• 14:05
  the
• 14:05
  Witch
• 14:05
  and
• 14:05
  Wardrobe,
• 14:05
  which
• 14:05
  is
• 14:05
  what
• 14:06
  we're
• 14:06
  talking
• 14:06
  about
• 14:06
  today.
• 14:08
  And
• 14:08
  some
• 14:08
  of
• 14:08
  it,
• 14:09
  I
• 14:09
  want
• 14:09
  to
• 14:09
  say,
• 14:09
  is
• 14:09
  because
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  me,
• 14:10
  the
• 14:11
  allegories
• 14:11
  and
• 14:11
  stuff
• 14:11
  just
• 14:12
  feel
• 14:12
  so
• 14:12
  in
• 14:12
  your
• 14:12
  face.
• 14:12
  I'm
• 14:13
  like,
• 14:13
  this
• 14:13
  is
• 14:13
  painful.
• 14:14
  But
• 14:14
  I
• 14:14
  have
• 14:14
  friends
• 14:14
  who
• 14:15
  didn't
• 14:15
  grow
• 14:15
  up
• 14:15
  Christian
• 14:15
  who
• 14:15
  didn't
• 14:16
  even
• 14:16
  know
• 14:16
  there
• 14:16
  was
• 14:16
  a
• 14:16
  metaphor
• 14:17
  or
• 14:17
  anything
• 14:17
  there.
• 14:17
  They
• 14:18
  had
• 14:18
  no
• 14:18
  idea.
• 14:18
  So
• 14:19
  I
• 14:19
  think
• 14:19
  a
• 14:19
  lot
• 14:19
  of
• 14:20
  it
• 14:20
  just
• 14:20
  has
• 14:20
  to
• 14:20
  do
• 14:20
  with
• 14:20
  how
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  grew
• 14:21
  up.
• 14:21
  So
• 14:21
  it
• 14:21
  felt
• 14:22
  in
• 14:22
  my
• 14:23
  face.
• 14:23
  And
• 14:23
  then
• 14:23
  I'm
• 14:23
  like,
• 14:23
  oh,
• 14:24
  well,
• 14:24
  if
• 14:24
  I
• 14:24
  didn't
• 14:24
  have
• 14:24
  that
• 14:24
  context,
• 14:25
  maybe
• 14:25
  I
• 14:25
  would
• 14:25
  have
• 14:26
  been
• 14:26
  able
• 14:26
  to
• 14:26
  read
• 14:27
  it
• 14:27
  different.
• 14:27
  I
• 14:28
  don't
• 14:28
  know.
• 14:28
  That's
• 14:28
  where
• 14:28
  I'm
• 14:28
  at.
• 14:29
  Brandon,
• 14:29
  what
• 14:29
  is
• 14:29
  your
• 14:29
  history
• 14:30
  with
• 14:30
  the
• 14:31
  Chronicle
• 14:31
  of
• 14:31
  Narnia
• 14:31
  books?
• 14:32
  I,
• 14:33
  too,
• 14:33
  know
• 14:33
  somebody
• 14:34
  who
• 14:34
  read
• 14:34
  the
• 14:35
  lion,
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  Witch
• 14:35
  and
• 14:36
  the
• 14:36
  Wardrobe
• 14:36
  and
• 14:37
  the
• 14:37
  Allegory
• 14:37
  went
• 14:38
  right
• 14:39
  over
• 14:39
  their
• 14:39
  head,
• 14:40
  which
• 14:40
  is
• 14:41
  impressive.
• 14:42
  I
• 14:42
  think
• 14:42
  that's
• 14:42
  incredibly
• 14:43
  impressive.
• 14:44
  Yeah,
• 14:45
  I
• 14:45
  would
• 14:46
  say.
• 14:46
  I
• 14:46
  think
• 14:47
  I
• 14:47
  actually
• 14:47
  first
• 14:48
  started
• 14:48
  reading
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  books
• 14:49
  probably
• 14:50
  right
• 14:50
  around
• 14:51
  the
• 14:51
  same
• 14:52
  time.
• 14:52
  Joe
• 14:52
  was
• 14:53
  kind
• 14:53
  of
• 14:53
  that,
• 14:53
  like,
• 14:54
  late
• 14:54
  elementary,
• 14:56
  early
• 14:56
  junior
• 14:57
  high
• 14:57
  somewhere
• 14:58
  around
• 14:58
  there.
• 14:59
  I
• 14:59
  don't
• 15:00
  think
• 15:00
  I
• 15:00
  actually
• 15:01
  have
• 15:01
  read
• 15:01
  all
• 15:01
  of
• 15:02
  them
• 15:02
  still.
• 15:02
  I
• 15:03
  think
• 15:03
  there's
• 15:03
  like
• 15:03
  a.
• 15:04
  Like
• 15:04
  one
• 15:04
  or
• 15:04
  two
• 15:05
  here
• 15:05
  or
• 15:05
  there
• 15:05
  that
• 15:06
  I
• 15:06
  like
• 15:06
  still
• 15:07
  to
• 15:07
  this
• 15:07
  day
• 15:07
  have
• 15:08
  not
• 15:08
  gotten
• 15:08
  to.
• 15:09
  I
• 15:09
  think
• 15:09
  my
• 15:09
  earliest
• 15:10
  introduction
• 15:11
  to
• 15:11
  Narnia
• 15:12
  was
• 15:13
  through
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  BBC
• 15:15
  films.
• 15:16
  I
• 15:16
  remember
• 15:17
  seeing
• 15:18
  the
• 15:19
  old
• 15:19
  BBC
• 15:20
  lion,
• 15:20
  the
• 15:21
  Witch
• 15:21
  and
• 15:21
  the
• 15:21
  Wardrobe
• 15:22
  film.
• 15:23
  I
• 15:23
  think
• 15:23
  that
• 15:24
  would
• 15:24
  have
• 15:24
  been
• 15:24
  before
• 15:26
  the
• 15:27
  reading
• 15:28
  the
• 15:28
  books
• 15:28
  and
• 15:28
  obviously
• 15:29
  was
• 15:29
  before
• 15:30
  the
• 15:31
  Disney
• 15:31
  films
• 15:32
  as
• 15:32
  well.
• 15:33
  I
• 15:33
  would
• 15:34
  say
• 15:36
  I
• 15:36
  would
• 15:37
  put
• 15:37
  Till
• 15:37
  we
• 15:37
  have
• 15:37
  Faces
• 15:38
  as
• 15:38
  my
• 15:38
  least
• 15:39
  favorite
• 15:39
  Lewis
• 15:40
  book.
• 15:40
  I
• 15:40
  think
• 15:41
  that
• 15:41
  one
• 15:41
  is
• 15:42
  really
• 15:42
  dry.
• 15:44
  Fair
• 15:44
  enough.
• 15:46
  But
• 15:46
  to
• 15:47
  kind
• 15:47
  of
• 15:47
  piggyback
• 15:48
  off
• 15:48
  of
• 15:48
  Joe
• 15:48
  a
• 15:48
  little
• 15:48
  bit
• 15:49
  when
• 15:49
  he
• 15:49
  was
• 15:49
  saying
• 15:49
  how
• 15:52
  part
• 15:52
  of
• 15:52
  the
• 15:52
  reason
• 15:52
  why
• 15:53
  this
• 15:53
  series
• 15:54
  maybe
• 15:54
  doesn't
• 15:56
  kind
• 15:56
  of
• 15:56
  gets
• 15:56
  overshadowed
• 15:57
  compared
• 15:58
  to
• 15:58
  a
• 15:58
  lot
• 15:58
  of
• 15:58
  the
• 15:58
  other
• 15:59
  more
• 15:59
  high
• 15:59
  fantasy
• 16:01
  that
• 16:01
  is
• 16:02
  written
• 16:02
  around
• 16:02
  its
• 16:02
  time
• 16:03
  as
• 16:03
  a
• 16:03
  contemporary.
• 16:04
  It's
• 16:04
  not
• 16:04
  really
• 16:04
  even
• 16:05
  Fair
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  compare
• 16:05
  it
• 16:06
  to
• 16:06
  some
• 16:06
  of
• 16:06
  Lewis's
• 16:07
  other
• 16:09
  fictional
• 16:09
  works
• 16:10
  as
• 16:10
  well,
• 16:10
  like
• 16:11
  Space
• 16:12
  Trilogy,
• 16:12
  Ransom
• 16:13
  Trilogy,
• 16:13
  depending
• 16:14
  on
• 16:14
  how
• 16:14
  pretentious
• 16:15
  you
• 16:15
  are.
• 16:15
  Which
• 16:16
  is
• 16:17
  way
• 16:17
  more.
• 16:19
  Which
• 16:19
  is
• 16:20
  way
• 16:20
  more.
• 16:21
  Way
• 16:22
  more.
• 16:23
  It's
• 16:23
  much
• 16:23
  more
• 16:24
  subtle.
• 16:24
  It's
• 16:25
  much
• 16:25
  more
• 16:25
  different.
• 16:26
  It
• 16:26
  is
• 16:26
  written
• 16:27
  for
• 16:27
  an
• 16:27
  older
• 16:28
  audience
• 16:28
  than
• 16:28
  what
• 16:29
  Narnia
• 16:30
  was
• 16:30
  written
• 16:30
  for.
• 16:31
  So.
• 16:31
  So
• 16:32
  yeah,
• 16:32
  just
• 16:32
  to
• 16:32
  kind
• 16:32
  of
• 16:32
  carry
• 16:33
  off
• 16:33
  of
• 16:33
  that
• 16:33
  a
• 16:33
  little
• 16:33
  bit.
• 16:34
  Even
• 16:34
  within
• 16:34
  Lewis's
• 16:35
  works,
• 16:36
  it's
• 16:36
  not
• 16:36
  even
• 16:36
  really
• 16:37
  fair
• 16:37
  to
• 16:37
  compare
• 16:38
  it
• 16:38
  to
• 16:38
  other
• 16:38
  things.
• 16:39
  Which
• 16:39
  is
• 16:39
  crazy
• 16:40
  though,
• 16:40
  because
• 16:40
  I
• 16:40
  feel
• 16:40
  like
• 16:41
  the
• 16:41
  average
• 16:42
  person,
• 16:43
  Narnia
• 16:44
  is
• 16:44
  still
• 16:44
  going
• 16:44
  to
• 16:44
  be
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  thing
• 16:46
  that
• 16:46
  they
• 16:46
  know
• 16:46
  CS
• 16:47
  Lewis
• 16:47
  for
• 16:48
  rather
• 16:48
  than
• 16:49
  the
• 16:49
  other
• 16:49
  stuff.
• 16:50
  Yeah,
• 16:51
  yeah,
• 16:51
  I.
• 16:52
  I
• 16:52
  do
• 16:52
  want
• 16:52
  to
• 16:52
  throw
• 16:53
  it
• 16:53
  too,
• 16:53
  before
• 16:53
  we
• 16:53
  get
• 16:53
  to
• 16:53
  our
• 16:53
  next
• 16:53
  question,
• 16:54
  because
• 16:54
  I
• 16:54
  feel
• 16:55
  like
• 16:55
  I
• 16:55
  want
• 16:56
  to
• 16:56
  just
• 16:56
  throw
• 16:56
  out
• 16:56
  there.
• 16:57
  There
• 16:57
  are
• 16:57
  a
• 16:57
  set
• 16:58
  few
• 16:58
  books
• 16:59
  that
• 16:59
  were
• 16:59
  tainted
• 17:00
  for
• 17:00
  me
• 17:00
  personally.
• 17:01
  And
• 17:01
  this
• 17:01
  is
• 17:01
  just
• 17:02
  like
• 17:02
  personal
• 17:02
  bias
• 17:03
  stuff.
• 17:03
  So,
• 17:03
  like,
• 17:04
  I
• 17:04
  don't
• 17:04
  feel
• 17:05
  like
• 17:05
  I'm
• 17:05
  just
• 17:05
  justifying
• 17:05
  myself
• 17:06
  a
• 17:06
  lot.
• 17:06
  Maybe
• 17:06
  I
• 17:06
  don't
• 17:06
  need
• 17:06
  to
• 17:07
  do
• 17:07
  this,
• 17:07
  but
• 17:07
  it's
• 17:07
  fine.
• 17:08
  When
• 17:09
  I
• 17:09
  got
• 17:09
  assigned
• 17:09
  books
• 17:10
  to
• 17:10
  read
• 17:10
  in
• 17:10
  school
• 17:11
  back
• 17:12
  when,
• 17:12
  you
• 17:12
  know,
• 17:13
  ADHD
• 17:13
  isn't
• 17:14
  real,
• 17:14
  then
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  couldn't
• 17:16
  finish
• 17:17
  them,
• 17:17
  so
• 17:17
  I
• 17:17
  just
• 17:17
  got
• 17:17
  aggravated
• 17:18
  at
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  book
• 17:18
  instead
• 17:19
  of
• 17:19
  myself.
• 17:20
  So
• 17:20
  there
• 17:20
  are
• 17:21
  also
• 17:21
  this
• 17:21
  also
• 17:21
  fell
• 17:21
  into
• 17:22
  like,
• 17:22
  that
• 17:22
  thing
• 17:22
  where,
• 17:22
  like,
• 17:22
  I
• 17:23
  tried
• 17:23
  to
• 17:23
  read
• 17:23
  it,
• 17:23
  couldn't
• 17:23
  read
• 17:23
  it,
• 17:24
  got
• 17:24
  aggravated,
• 17:24
  dumb.
• 17:25
  But
• 17:25
  then
• 17:25
  later
• 17:25
  on
• 17:25
  when
• 17:25
  I
• 17:26
  was
• 17:26
  able
• 17:26
  to
• 17:26
  start,
• 17:26
  like,
• 17:27
  focusing
• 17:27
  better
• 17:28
  and
• 17:28
  I
• 17:28
  learned
• 17:28
  some
• 17:28
  of
• 17:28
  the,
• 17:29
  like,
• 17:29
  habits
• 17:29
  and
• 17:29
  stuff
• 17:29
  that
• 17:29
  I
• 17:30
  need
• 17:30
  start
• 17:30
  taking
• 17:30
  medicine
• 17:31
  can
• 17:31
  read
• 17:31
  better.
• 17:31
  I
• 17:32
  read
• 17:32
  all
• 17:32
  other
• 17:32
  loose
• 17:33
  stuff
• 17:33
  and
• 17:33
  I
• 17:33
  was
• 17:33
  like,
• 17:33
  maybe
• 17:33
  I
• 17:33
  should
• 17:33
  go
• 17:33
  back
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  that
• 17:34
  Narnia
• 17:34
  thing.
• 17:34
  And
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  was
• 17:34
  like,
• 17:34
  oh,
• 17:35
  man.
• 17:36
  And
• 17:36
  yeah,
• 17:37
  so
• 17:37
  yeah,
• 17:37
  there's
• 17:37
  a
• 17:37
  little
• 17:37
  bit
• 17:37
  of
• 17:37
  that
• 17:38
  bias.
• 17:38
  It's
• 17:38
  similar
• 17:38
  to
• 17:39
  like,
• 17:39
  Hunger
• 17:39
  Games.
• 17:39
  My
• 17:40
  bad
• 17:40
  opinions
• 17:40
  with
• 17:40
  Hunger
• 17:41
  Games
• 17:41
  too.
• 17:41
  Like,
• 17:41
  I
• 17:41
  can't
• 17:41
  stand
• 17:42
  them.
• 17:42
  And
• 17:42
  I
• 17:42
  know
• 17:43
  it's
• 17:43
  my
• 17:43
  fault.
• 17:43
  I
• 17:44
  went
• 17:44
  in
• 17:44
  thinking
• 17:44
  that
• 17:44
  it
• 17:44
  was
• 17:45
  going
• 17:45
  to
• 17:45
  be
• 17:45
  about
• 17:45
  cannibalism
• 17:46
  and
• 17:46
  giant
• 17:46
  violent
• 17:47
  stuff.
• 17:47
  And
• 17:47
  then
• 17:47
  I
• 17:47
  was
• 17:47
  like,
• 17:47
  oh,
• 17:48
  there's
• 17:48
  one
• 17:48
  person
• 17:49
  who
• 17:49
  dies
• 17:49
  over
• 17:49
  an
• 17:50
  hour
• 17:50
  into
• 17:50
  this
• 17:50
  film.
• 17:51
  This
• 17:52
  is
• 17:52
  awful.
• 17:53
  I
• 17:54
  will.
• 17:54
  Expectations
• 17:55
  could
• 17:55
  ruin
• 17:55
  stuff.
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  will
• 17:57
  join
• 17:57
  you
• 17:58
  into
• 17:59
  that
• 17:59
  Brave
• 17:59
  Knight
• 18:00
  and
• 18:00
  say,
• 18:01
  you
• 18:01
  know
• 18:01
  what?
• 18:01
  The
• 18:02
  Hunger
• 18:02
  Games
• 18:03
  suck.
• 18:04
  Why?
• 18:04
  Because
• 18:04
  they're
• 18:05
  boring.
• 18:06
  Because.
• 18:06
  Because
• 18:07
  nobody's
• 18:07
  compelling
• 18:08
  and
• 18:08
  the
• 18:09
  entire
• 18:09
  thing
• 18:09
  is
• 18:10
  garbage
• 18:11
  and
• 18:11
  only
• 18:12
  a
• 18:12
  byproduct
• 18:12
  of
• 18:13
  a
• 18:13
  post
• 18:13
  Twilight
• 18:14
  world.
• 18:14
  I
• 18:14
  said
• 18:15
  what
• 18:15
  I
• 18:15
  said
• 18:15
  and
• 18:16
  you
• 18:16
  can
• 18:16
  send
• 18:16
  all
• 18:17
  complaints
• 18:18
  to
• 18:18
  my
• 18:18
  seminary
• 18:19
  life
• 18:19
  gmail.com.
• 18:22
  Yeah,
• 18:23
  if
• 18:23
  you
• 18:23
  guys
• 18:23
  want
• 18:23
  more
• 18:24
  rage
• 18:24
  bait,
• 18:25
  ask
• 18:25
  me
• 18:25
  later
• 18:25
  about
• 18:26
  my
• 18:26
  opinions
• 18:26
  on
• 18:26
  heated
• 18:26
  rivalries.
• 18:27
  For
• 18:28
  now
• 18:28
  though,
• 18:29
  I.
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  Think
• 18:30
  everybody
• 18:31
  for
• 18:31
  the
• 18:31
  most
• 18:31
  part
• 18:32
  knows
• 18:32
  what
• 18:32
  Narnia
• 18:33
  is
• 18:33
  of
• 18:33
  some
• 18:33
  sort.
• 18:34
  I,
• 18:34
  you
• 18:34
  know,
• 18:34
  maybe
• 18:35
  there
• 18:35
  are
• 18:35
  a
• 18:35
  few
• 18:35
  who
• 18:35
  don't.
• 18:36
  So
• 18:36
  instead
• 18:37
  of
• 18:37
  just
• 18:37
  like,
• 18:37
  hey,
• 18:37
  we're
• 18:37
  gonna
• 18:37
  explain
• 18:38
  something
• 18:38
  that
• 18:38
  people
• 18:38
  have
• 18:38
  already
• 18:38
  heard
• 18:39
  a
• 18:39
  million
• 18:39
  times,
• 18:39
  I
• 18:40
  want
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  hear
• 18:40
  you
• 18:40
  guys
• 18:41
  and
• 18:41
  myself
• 18:42
  give
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  worst
• 18:42
  explanation
• 18:43
  you
• 18:43
  can
• 18:44
  of
• 18:44
  Aslan's
• 18:45
  story
• 18:45
  in
• 18:45
  the
• 18:45
  line
• 18:46
  the
• 18:46
  Witch
• 18:46
  and
• 18:46
  the
• 18:46
  Wardrobe.
• 18:48
  Just
• 18:48
  the
• 18:48
  poorest
• 18:49
  explanation.
• 18:49
  And
• 18:49
  I
• 18:49
  can
• 18:50
  go
• 18:50
  first,
• 18:50
  give
• 18:50
  you
• 18:50
  time
• 18:50
  to
• 18:51
  think
• 18:51
  about
• 18:51
  it
• 18:51
  if
• 18:51
  you
• 18:51
  want.
• 18:53
  My,
• 18:53
  my
• 18:54
  version
• 18:54
  would
• 18:54
  be
• 18:56
  an
• 18:56
  all
• 18:56
  powerful
• 18:57
  lion,
• 18:58
  put
• 18:58
  some
• 18:58
  children
• 18:59
  into
• 19:01
  unintentionally
• 19:02
  let
• 19:02
  children
• 19:02
  be
• 19:03
  part
• 19:03
  of
• 19:03
  a
• 19:03
  giant
• 19:03
  war,
• 19:04
  risking
• 19:04
  their
• 19:05
  lives
• 19:05
  and
• 19:05
  then
• 19:06
  died.
• 19:07
  Well,
• 19:07
  no,
• 19:07
  we
• 19:08
  know
• 19:08
  it.
• 19:08
  Here
• 19:08
  we
• 19:08
  go.
• 19:09
  Unintentionally
• 19:10
  put
• 19:10
  children's
• 19:10
  lives
• 19:11
  in
• 19:11
  danger,
• 19:12
  then
• 19:12
  used
• 19:13
  his
• 19:13
  legal
• 19:14
  prowess
• 19:15
  and
• 19:15
  his
• 19:16
  knowledge
• 19:16
  of
• 19:16
  law
• 19:17
  to
• 19:18
  save
• 19:18
  them
• 19:19
  from
• 19:19
  battle.
• 19:21
  I
• 19:22
  think
• 19:22
  that's
• 19:22
  a
• 19:22
  pretty
• 19:22
  terrible
• 19:23
  explanation
• 19:23
  as
• 19:24
  far
• 19:24
  as
• 19:24
  things
• 19:24
  go.
• 19:26
  Joe,
• 19:27
  Joe,
• 19:27
  what's
• 19:27
  your,
• 19:27
  what's
• 19:27
  your
• 19:28
  bad
• 19:28
  explanation
• 19:28
  of
• 19:28
  Aslan's
• 19:29
  story?
• 19:29
  In
• 19:30
  Lion
• 19:30
  Witch
• 19:30
  in
• 19:30
  the
• 19:30
  Wardrobe.
• 19:33
  A
• 19:33
  British
• 19:33
  kid
• 19:34
  almost
• 19:34
  gets
• 19:35
  killed
• 19:35
  over
• 19:36
  Turkish
• 19:36
  Delight.
• 19:38
  We
• 19:38
  have
• 19:40
  cruelty
• 19:41
  towards
• 19:41
  animals
• 19:43
  and
• 19:44
  then
• 19:45
  the
• 19:45
  animal
• 19:46
  gets
• 19:46
  off
• 19:46
  on
• 19:46
  the
• 19:46
  technicality.
• 19:49
  Love
• 19:50
  it.
• 19:50
  Love
• 19:50
  it.
• 19:50
  All
• 19:50
  right,
• 19:50
  Brandon,
• 19:51
  worst
• 19:51
  explanation
• 19:53
  of
• 19:53
  Aslan's
• 19:54
  story
• 19:54
  in
• 19:54
  line
• 19:54
  of
• 19:54
  Witch
• 19:55
  and
• 19:55
  wardrobe.
• 19:56
  Turkish
• 19:56
  delight
• 19:57
  kills
• 19:57
  lion,
• 19:58
  question
• 19:58
  mark.
• 20:02
  Oh,
• 20:02
  God,
• 20:03
  I
• 20:03
  love
• 20:03
  it.
• 20:05
  Simple
• 20:05
  but
• 20:05
  effective.
• 20:07
  Yeah,
• 20:07
  I
• 20:07
  was
• 20:07
  trying
• 20:07
  to.
• 20:08
  We
• 20:08
  all.
• 20:08
  I
• 20:09
  was
• 20:09
  trying
• 20:09
  to
• 20:09
  like
• 20:09
  Josh
• 20:10
  did
• 20:10
  really
• 20:10
  long.
• 20:10
  Joe's
• 20:11
  was
• 20:11
  a
• 20:11
  little
• 20:11
  shorter.
• 20:12
  I
• 20:12
  was
• 20:12
  like,
• 20:12
  okay,
• 20:12
  I'm
• 20:13
  gonna
• 20:13
  be
• 20:13
  like
• 20:13
  the,
• 20:14
  the
• 20:14
  very
• 20:14
  short
• 20:15
  version.
• 21:07
  Yeah,
• 21:08
  and
• 21:08
  if
• 21:08
  TJ
• 21:08
  was
• 21:08
  here,
• 21:08
  it
• 21:09
  would
• 21:09
  be
• 21:09
  lying.
• 21:09
  Good.
• 21:14
  Does
• 21:14
  anybody
• 21:14
  want
• 21:14
  to
• 21:14
  clarify
• 21:15
  any
• 21:15
  before
• 21:16
  we
• 21:16
  pass
• 21:16
  on
• 21:16
  since
• 21:16
  we
• 21:16
  did
• 21:16
  bad
• 21:17
  explanations,
• 21:17
  or
• 21:17
  are
• 21:18
  we
• 21:18
  gonna
• 21:18
  let
• 21:18
  that
• 21:18
  set
• 21:18
  and
• 21:19
  expect
• 21:19
  our
• 21:19
  listeners
• 21:20
  to
• 21:20
  be
• 21:20
  smart
• 21:20
  enough
• 21:21
  to
• 21:21
  know
• 21:21
  what
• 21:21
  the
• 21:21
  story
• 21:22
  is?
• 21:24
  Okay,
• 21:25
  so
• 21:26
  if
• 21:26
  we
• 21:26
  don't
• 21:26
  need
• 21:26
  to
• 21:26
  clarify,
• 21:27
  I'm
• 21:27
  going
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  go
• 21:27
  ahead
• 21:27
  and
• 21:27
  move
• 21:28
  on
• 21:28
  and
• 21:28
  just
• 21:28
  keep
• 21:28
  Brandon
• 21:29
  up
• 21:29
  here.
• 21:31
  Brandon,
• 21:32
  now
• 21:32
  I
• 21:32
  want
• 21:33
  to
• 21:33
  know
• 21:33
  who
• 21:34
  are
• 21:35
  the
• 21:35
  kids?
• 21:35
  Edmund,
• 21:36
  Lucy,
• 21:38
  Peter
• 21:38
  and
• 21:38
  Susan.
• 21:40
  How
• 21:40
  would
• 21:41
  you
• 21:41
  explain
• 21:41
  them
• 21:43
  well
• 21:43
  this
• 21:43
  time?
• 21:43
  Oh,
• 21:44
  explain
• 21:44
  them
• 21:44
  well
• 21:45
  this
• 21:45
  time.
• 21:45
  Okay,
• 21:46
  so
• 21:46
  it's
• 21:46
  World
• 21:47
  War
• 21:47
  II
• 21:48
  and
• 21:49
  we're
• 21:49
  trying
• 21:49
  to
• 21:50
  get
• 21:50
  the
• 21:50
  kids
• 21:51
  out
• 21:51
  of
• 21:51
  the
• 21:51
  bomb
• 21:52
  area.
• 21:52
  And
• 21:53
  these
• 21:53
  are
• 21:53
  four
• 21:54
  siblings.
• 21:55
  Peter,
• 21:55
  Susan,
• 21:55
  Edmund,
• 21:56
  Lucy.
• 21:56
  I
• 21:57
  can't
• 21:57
  believe
• 21:57
  you
• 21:57
  said
• 21:57
  their
• 21:58
  names
• 21:58
  out
• 21:58
  of
• 21:58
  order.
• 21:59
  It
• 21:59
  made
• 21:59
  my
• 21:59
  head
• 22:00
  hurt.
• 22:01
  I
• 22:02
  was
• 22:02
  giving
• 22:02
  myself
• 22:02
  time
• 22:03
  to
• 22:03
  remember
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  names.
• 22:03
  I
• 22:04
  forgot
• 22:05
  they
• 22:06
  are
• 22:06
  taken
• 22:07
  to.
• 22:08
  This
• 22:08
  was
• 22:08
  like,
• 22:09
  like
• 22:09
  in
• 22:09
  real
• 22:09
  life
• 22:10
  something
• 22:10
  that
• 22:10
  was
• 22:10
  going
• 22:10
  on
• 22:11
  during
• 22:11
  World
• 22:11
  War
• 22:11
  II
• 22:12
  in
• 22:12
  Britain,
• 22:13
  kind
• 22:13
  of
• 22:13
  taking
• 22:14
  everybody
• 22:14
  out
• 22:14
  of
• 22:14
  the
• 22:15
  city,
• 22:15
  all
• 22:15
  the
• 22:15
  kids
• 22:16
  that
• 22:16
  is
• 22:16
  out
• 22:16
  of
• 22:16
  the
• 22:17
  city
• 22:17
  into
• 22:18
  more
• 22:18
  rural
• 22:19
  areas
• 22:19
  away
• 22:19
  from
• 22:20
  where
• 22:20
  they
• 22:20
  would
• 22:20
  expect
• 22:21
  the
• 22:21
  bombs.
• 22:21
  To
• 22:21
  be
• 22:21
  dropped
• 22:22
  and
• 22:23
  the.
• 22:24
  The
• 22:24
  kids
• 22:25
  are
• 22:25
  put
• 22:25
  up
• 22:25
  in
• 22:26
  a
• 22:26
  home
• 22:26
  of
• 22:26
  some.
• 22:27
  A
• 22:27
  professor.
• 22:28
  Peter's
• 22:29
  the
• 22:29
  oldest.
• 22:29
  He's
• 22:30
  kind
• 22:30
  of
• 22:30
  like
• 22:30
  the
• 22:31
  stereotypical
• 22:32
  firstborn.
• 22:33
  As
• 22:33
  a
• 22:34
  stereotypical
• 22:34
  firstborn,
• 22:36
  Susan
• 22:37
  has
• 22:37
  an
• 22:38
  interesting
• 22:38
  character
• 22:39
  arc
• 22:39
  that
• 22:39
  is
• 22:39
  unpacked
• 22:40
  later
• 22:40
  on.
• 22:41
  She's
• 22:41
  kind
• 22:42
  of
• 22:42
  just
• 22:42
  there
• 22:43
  in
• 22:43
  this
• 22:44
  story.
• 22:45
  Edmund
• 22:45
  and
• 22:45
  Lucy
• 22:46
  are
• 22:46
  kind
• 22:46
  of
• 22:46
  the
• 22:47
  central
• 22:47
  characters
• 22:48
  of
• 22:48
  the
• 22:48
  children
• 22:48
  in
• 22:49
  this
• 22:49
  first
• 22:49
  book
• 22:50
  with
• 22:50
  Lucy
• 22:51
  being
• 22:51
  the
• 22:51
  first
• 22:52
  one
• 22:52
  exposed
• 22:52
  to
• 22:53
  Narnia
• 22:53
  and
• 22:54
  then
• 22:54
  Edmund
• 22:55
  being
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  one
• 22:55
  who
• 22:55
  is
• 22:56
  deceived
• 22:57
  while
• 22:57
  in
• 22:57
  Narnia.
• 22:59
  Yeah.
• 22:59
  Yeah.
• 22:59
  And
• 23:00
  I
• 23:00
  do
• 23:00
  think,
• 23:01
  is
• 23:01
  it
• 23:01
  Susan?
• 23:02
  We
• 23:02
  kind
• 23:02
  of
• 23:02
  see
• 23:03
  some.
• 23:04
  I
• 23:04
  feel
• 23:04
  like
• 23:04
  she's
• 23:04
  a
• 23:04
  little
• 23:05
  bit
• 23:05
  more
• 23:05
  skeptical
• 23:05
  than
• 23:05
  the
• 23:06
  rest.
• 23:07
  Being
• 23:08
  a
• 23:08
  little
• 23:08
  bit
• 23:08
  more
• 23:08
  matured.
• 23:10
  Peter
• 23:10
  is
• 23:10
  the
• 23:11
  strong
• 23:12
  older
• 23:12
  one.
• 23:12
  Yeah,
• 23:13
  yeah.
• 23:13
  So
• 23:13
  I
• 23:13
  do
• 23:13
  think,
• 23:14
  yeah.
• 23:14
  Lucy
• 23:14
  and
• 23:14
  Evan
• 23:14
  being
• 23:15
  like
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  main
• 23:15
  ones
• 23:15
  for
• 23:15
  this.
• 23:17
  Edmund
• 23:19
  wanted
• 23:20
  candy
• 23:20
  so
• 23:20
  bad,
• 23:20
  he
• 23:21
  doomed
• 23:21
  everybody.
• 23:21
  What's.
• 23:22
  What's
• 23:22
  going
• 23:22
  on?
• 23:23
  Like
• 23:23
  what.
• 23:23
  How
• 23:24
  does
• 23:24
  this
• 23:24
  make
• 23:24
  sense?
• 23:24
  Because
• 23:25
  it
• 23:25
  sounds
• 23:25
  out
• 23:26
  of
• 23:26
  context.
• 23:26
  Really
• 23:27
  silly.
• 23:28
  Yeah.
• 23:29
  I
• 23:29
  mean
• 23:29
  even
• 23:30
  in
• 23:30
  context
• 23:30
  it's
• 23:31
  still
• 23:31
  kind
• 23:31
  of
• 23:31
  silly
• 23:32
  if
• 23:32
  you
• 23:32
  don't
• 23:32
  know
• 23:32
  what
• 23:32
  Turkish
• 23:33
  Delight
• 23:33
  is.
• 23:34
  Yeah.
• 23:35
  Which
• 23:35
  I
• 23:36
  vaguely
• 23:36
  do.
• 23:38
  I
• 23:38
  would
• 23:38
  argue
• 23:39
  that
• 23:39
  it's
• 23:39
  even
• 23:39
  more
• 23:40
  silly
• 23:40
  knowing
• 23:41
  what
• 23:41
  Turkish
• 23:41
  Delight
• 23:42
  is
• 23:42
  because
• 23:42
  if
• 23:42
  anybody's
• 23:43
  ever,
• 23:43
  ever
• 23:43
  had
• 23:43
  it,
• 23:44
  it
• 23:44
  is
• 23:44
  the
• 23:44
  most
• 23:45
  mid
• 23:46
  thing.
• 23:46
  And
• 23:46
  you're
• 23:47
  like
• 23:47
  this
• 23:47
  kid
• 23:48
  was
• 23:48
  about
• 23:48
  to
• 23:49
  dime
• 23:49
  out
• 23:49
  his
• 23:50
  entire
• 23:51
  family
• 23:52
  and.
• 23:53
  And
• 23:53
  just
• 23:53
  screw
• 23:54
  everybody
• 23:55
  for
• 23:55
  a
• 23:55
  mid
• 23:55
  dessert.
• 23:56
  I'm
• 23:56
  just
• 23:56
  saying
• 23:57
  it
• 23:57
  is
• 23:57
  just
• 23:57
  as
• 23:58
  ridiculous
• 23:58
  knowing
• 23:59
  what
• 23:59
  Turkish
• 23:59
  Delight
• 24:00
  is.
• 24:01
  So
• 24:01
  what
• 24:01
  is
• 24:02
  it
• 24:02
  that
• 24:02
  that
• 24:03
  causes
• 24:03
  Edmund?
• 24:04
  You
• 24:04
  doing
• 24:05
  a
• 24:05
  little
• 24:05
  brain
• 24:05
  refresher?
• 24:06
  What
• 24:07
  causes
• 24:07
  him
• 24:07
  to
• 24:07
  say,
• 24:08
  hey
• 24:08
  yeah,
• 24:08
  let
• 24:08
  me
• 24:08
  make
• 24:09
  this
• 24:09
  deal
• 24:09
  dooming
• 24:09
  everybody
• 24:10
  for
• 24:10
  this
• 24:10
  candy?
• 24:10
  Is
• 24:11
  he
• 24:11
  just
• 24:11
  hungry?
• 24:12
  He's
• 24:12
  just
• 24:12
  have
• 24:13
  a
• 24:13
  sweet
• 24:13
  tooth?
• 24:13
  Like
• 24:13
  what,
• 24:14
  what
• 24:14
  makes
• 24:15
  him
• 24:15
  decide
• 24:15
  that
• 24:15
  this
• 24:16
  is
• 24:16
  a
• 24:16
  good
• 24:16
  idea?
• 24:19
  So
• 24:19
  Edmund
• 24:20
  is
• 24:21
  the.
• 24:22
  For.
• 24:22
  For
• 24:22
  as
• 24:22
  much
• 24:23
  as
• 24:23
  Peter
• 24:23
  is
• 24:23
  the
• 24:24
  stereotypical
• 24:25
  like
• 24:25
  man
• 24:26
  of
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  house
• 24:27
  sort
• 24:27
  of,
• 24:27
  sort
• 24:28
  of
• 24:28
  eldest
• 24:29
  sibling,
• 24:31
  Edmund
• 24:32
  is
• 24:32
  very
• 24:33
  much
• 24:33
  the
• 24:33
  stereotypical
• 24:35
  bratty
• 24:36
  younger
• 24:36
  brother
• 24:36
  who's
• 24:37
  very
• 24:38
  self
• 24:38
  centered,
• 24:39
  very
• 24:41
  concentrated
• 24:42
  on
• 24:43
  trying
• 24:44
  to
• 24:45
  prove
• 24:46
  that
• 24:46
  he
• 24:47
  is,
• 24:47
  you
• 24:48
  know,
• 24:48
  quote
• 24:48
  unquote,
• 24:49
  more
• 24:49
  of
• 24:49
  a
• 24:49
  man
• 24:50
  than
• 24:50
  Peter.
• 24:51
  Even
• 24:51
  though
• 24:51
  like
• 24:52
  as
• 24:52
  a,
• 24:52
  as
• 24:52
  a
• 24:52
  child
• 24:53
  he
• 24:53
  has
• 24:54
  no
• 24:54
  idea
• 24:54
  what
• 24:54
  he's
• 24:54
  even.
• 24:55
  What
• 24:55
  he's
• 24:55
  even
• 24:55
  saying
• 24:56
  as
• 24:56
  far
• 24:56
  as
• 24:56
  being
• 24:57
  like
• 24:57
  more
• 24:57
  of
• 24:57
  a
• 24:58
  man.
• 24:58
  But
• 24:59
  he
• 24:59
  is
• 24:59
  very
• 25:00
  much
• 25:00
  jealous
• 25:01
  or
• 25:01
  of
• 25:01
  Peter
• 25:02
  and
• 25:03
  feels
• 25:04
  like
• 25:05
  he
• 25:05
  is
• 25:05
  the
• 25:06
  black
• 25:06
  sheep
• 25:07
  out
• 25:07
  of
• 25:07
  everybody.
• 25:08
  And
• 25:08
  so
• 25:09
  along
• 25:09
  comes
• 25:10
  this,
• 25:10
  this
• 25:11
  witch
• 25:11
  who
• 25:12
  promises
• 25:13
  him
• 25:13
  this
• 25:14
  thing
• 25:14
  and
• 25:15
  promises
• 25:16
  him
• 25:17
  power.
• 25:18
  And
• 25:18
  all
• 25:19
  he
• 25:19
  has
• 25:19
  to
• 25:19
  do
• 25:20
  is
• 25:21
  bring
• 25:21
  her
• 25:22
  the,
• 25:23
  the
• 25:23
  the
• 25:23
  siblings
• 25:24
  because
• 25:24
  everything
• 25:24
  at
• 25:25
  first
• 25:25
  seems
• 25:25
  like
• 25:26
  innocent
• 25:26
  enough.
• 25:27
  And
• 25:28
  so
• 25:28
  she's
• 25:28
  like
• 25:29
  traying
• 25:30
  on
• 25:30
  the
• 25:30
  fact
• 25:31
  that
• 25:31
  he
• 25:31
  is
• 25:32
  a
• 25:32
  dumb
• 25:32
  child
• 25:33
  and
• 25:33
  he
• 25:34
  is
• 25:34
  very
• 25:34
  self
• 25:34
  centered,
• 25:35
  so
• 25:35
  he
• 25:35
  is
• 25:35
  seeing
• 25:36
  right
• 25:36
  in
• 25:36
  front
• 25:37
  of
• 25:37
  his
• 25:37
  face,
• 25:37
  no
• 25:37
  further
• 25:38
  and,
• 25:39
  and
• 25:39
  using
• 25:40
  that
• 25:40
  to
• 25:40
  like
• 25:40
  manipulate
• 25:41
  and
• 25:41
  coerce
• 25:42
  and
• 25:42
  all
• 25:42
  of
• 25:42
  that
• 25:42
  sort
• 25:43
  of
• 25:43
  stuff.
• 25:43
  And
• 25:43
  then
• 25:44
  you
• 25:44
  kind
• 25:44
  of
• 25:44
  get
• 25:44
  this
• 25:44
  shift
• 25:45
  into
• 25:46
  the
• 25:46
  other
• 25:46
  shoe
• 25:47
  dropping
• 25:47
  of
• 25:47
  like,
• 25:48
  no
• 25:48
  kid,
• 25:48
  you
• 25:48
  don't
• 25:49
  understand
• 25:49
  what
• 25:49
  kind
• 25:50
  of
• 25:50
  trouble
• 25:50
  you're
• 25:50
  in.
• 25:51
  And
• 25:51
  like
• 25:51
  that
• 25:52
  now,
• 25:52
  now
• 25:53
  he
• 25:53
  has
• 25:53
  no
• 25:53
  choice
• 25:54
  but
• 25:55
  to
• 25:55
  follow
• 25:56
  until
• 25:57
  as
• 25:57
  Lane
• 25:58
  comes
• 25:58
  in
• 25:59
  and
• 25:59
  like
• 26:00
  saves
• 26:00
  the
• 26:00
  day
• 26:00
  and
• 26:01
  all
• 26:01
  of
• 26:01
  that
• 26:01
  sort
• 26:02
  of
• 26:02
  jazz.
• 26:02
  But
• 26:02
  it's
• 26:03
  basically
• 26:04
  a,
• 26:05
  it's,
• 26:06
  it's
• 26:06
  a,
• 26:06
  it's
• 26:06
  a,
• 26:07
  A
• 26:07
  scaled
• 26:08
  down
• 26:09
  version
• 26:10
  of
• 26:12
  giving,
• 26:13
  tempting,
• 26:13
  attempting
• 26:14
  somebody
• 26:14
  with,
• 26:14
  with,
• 26:15
  with.
• 26:15
  With
• 26:15
  power
• 26:16
  or
• 26:16
  with
• 26:16
  what
• 26:17
  they
• 26:17
  wanted.
• 26:17
  You
• 26:17
  know
• 26:18
  what
• 26:18
  I
• 26:18
  mean?
• 26:18
  That,
• 26:18
  that,
• 26:19
  that
• 26:19
  temptation,
• 26:20
  that,
• 26:20
  that
• 26:21
  tempting
• 26:21
  fruit,
• 26:22
  if
• 26:22
  you
• 26:22
  will.
• 26:22
  If
• 26:22
  you
• 26:23
  really
• 26:23
  want
• 26:23
  to
• 26:23
  like
• 26:24
  try
• 26:24
  to
• 26:24
  stretch
• 26:25
  out
• 26:25
  the
• 26:25
  Christian
• 26:25
  metaphor
• 26:26
  in
• 26:26
  this
• 26:26
  thing
• 26:26
  as
• 26:26
  far
• 26:27
  as
• 26:27
  you
• 26:27
  can
• 26:27
  get
• 26:27
  it.
• 26:29
  And
• 26:30
  you
• 26:30
  know,
• 26:30
  he
• 26:30
  realizes
• 26:31
  the
• 26:32
  error
• 26:32
  of
• 26:32
  his
• 26:33
  ways
• 26:34
  once
• 26:34
  he's
• 26:35
  saved
• 26:35
  by,
• 26:36
  by
• 26:36
  Aslan.
• 26:37
  Yeah.
• 26:37
  Yeah.
• 26:38
  And
• 26:39
  the
• 26:39
  way
• 26:39
  Aslan
• 26:40
  basically.
• 26:40
  So
• 26:40
  the
• 26:40
  whole
• 26:41
  world
• 26:41
  is
• 26:41
  like
• 26:41
  a
• 26:41
  lot
• 26:41
  of
• 26:41
  magic
• 26:42
  and
• 26:42
  there's
• 26:42
  a
• 26:42
  lot
• 26:42
  of
• 26:42
  rules
• 26:42
  to
• 26:43
  the
• 26:43
  magic
• 26:43
  and
• 26:45
  the
• 26:46
  White
• 26:46
  witch
• 26:47
  and
• 26:47
  Aslan
• 26:48
  both
• 26:48
  kind
• 26:48
  of
• 26:48
  know
• 26:48
  a
• 26:48
  lot
• 26:49
  of
• 26:49
  these
• 26:49
  rules
• 26:49
  and
• 26:50
  the
• 26:50
  kids
• 26:50
  are
• 26:50
  just
• 26:50
  kind
• 26:51
  of
• 26:51
  there.
• 26:52
  The
• 26:52
  witch
• 26:53
  seems
• 26:53
  to
• 26:53
  be
• 26:53
  intent,
• 26:54
  worried
• 26:55
  about
• 26:55
  the
• 26:55
  presence
• 26:55
  of
• 26:56
  these
• 26:56
  sons
• 26:56
  and
• 26:56
  daughters
• 26:57
  of
• 26:57
  Adam,
• 26:57
  you
• 26:57
  know.
• 26:58
  And
• 26:59
  yeah,
• 27:00
  all
• 27:00
  that
• 27:00
  you
• 27:00
  said
• 27:01
  happens.
• 27:01
  Aslan
• 27:02
  really
• 27:02
  does,
• 27:02
  just
• 27:03
  through
• 27:03
  knowledge
• 27:03
  of
• 27:03
  law,
• 27:04
  go,
• 27:04
  wait
• 27:04
  a
• 27:04
  minute,
• 27:04
  I
• 27:04
  know
• 27:04
  how
• 27:05
  to
• 27:05
  break
• 27:05
  this.
• 27:05
  And
• 27:05
  he
• 27:05
  ends
• 27:06
  up
• 27:06
  sacrifice
• 27:07
  or
• 27:07
  he
• 27:07
  ends
• 27:08
  up
• 27:08
  dying
• 27:09
  on
• 27:09
  a
• 27:09
  stone
• 27:09
  tablet.
• 27:10
  Coming
• 27:10
  back,
• 27:10
  you
• 27:10
  see
• 27:11
  a
• 27:11
  lot
• 27:11
  of
• 27:11
  like
• 27:11
  magic
• 27:12
  things
• 27:12
  happen
• 27:12
  and
• 27:12
  then
• 27:12
  the
• 27:13
  witch
• 27:13
  has
• 27:13
  that
• 27:14
  oh,
• 27:14
  crap
• 27:15
  face
• 27:15
  and
• 27:15
  knows
• 27:16
  that
• 27:16
  it's
• 27:16
  going
• 27:16
  down.
• 27:17
  Giant
• 27:17
  battle
• 27:18
  ensues,
• 27:18
  of
• 27:18
  course
• 27:18
  Aslan
• 27:19
  and
• 27:19
  them
• 27:19
  win.
• 27:19
  And
• 27:20
  then
• 27:20
  there's
• 27:20
  several
• 27:20
  more
• 27:20
  books.
• 27:21
  That's
• 27:22
  never
• 27:22
  the
• 27:22
  end
• 27:22
  of
• 27:22
  the
• 27:22
  story.
• 27:23
  Right?
• 27:25
  I.
• 27:25
  I'm
• 27:25
  just
• 27:26
  curious.
• 27:26
  How
• 27:27
  does
• 27:27
  Edmund's
• 27:28
  choice
• 27:29
  actually
• 27:29
  impact
• 27:29
  Aslan?
• 27:30
  So
• 27:30
  we're
• 27:30
  talking
• 27:30
  about
• 27:30
  the
• 27:30
  faces
• 27:31
  behind
• 27:31
  us.
• 27:31
  I
• 27:32
  find
• 27:32
  it
• 27:32
  really
• 27:32
  interesting.
• 27:33
  Is
• 27:34
  Aslan
• 27:34
  only
• 27:35
  doing
• 27:35
  the
• 27:35
  sacrifice
• 27:36
  because
• 27:36
  of
• 27:36
  Edmund
• 27:37
  or
• 27:37
  is
• 27:37
  he
• 27:38
  gonna
• 27:38
  do
• 27:38
  it
• 27:38
  anyway?
• 27:40
  So
• 27:40
  can
• 27:40
  I,
• 27:40
  can
• 27:41
  I
• 27:41
  real
• 27:41
  quick
• 27:41
  before
• 27:42
  Brent,
• 27:42
  before
• 27:42
  you,
• 27:42
  before
• 27:43
  you
• 27:43
  jump
• 27:43
  in,
• 27:43
  Brendan.
• 27:44
  I
• 27:44
  want
• 27:44
  to
• 27:44
  be
• 27:44
  super
• 27:45
  pedantic
• 27:46
  here
• 27:46
  and
• 27:46
  be
• 27:46
  that
• 27:47
  Narnia
• 27:48
  nerd
• 27:49
  and
• 27:49
  say
• 27:50
  it
• 27:50
  is.
• 27:50
  It
• 27:50
  is
• 27:51
  Sons
• 27:51
  of.
• 27:51
  Sons
• 27:52
  of
• 27:52
  Adam
• 27:53
  and
• 27:53
  Daughters
• 27:54
  of
• 27:54
  Eve.
• 27:54
  Oh,
• 27:55
  yeah,
• 27:55
  I
• 27:55
  knew
• 27:55
  that.
• 27:55
  I
• 27:55
  just
• 27:55
  didn't
• 27:56
  want
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  take
• 27:56
  the
• 27:56
  time
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  say
• 27:56
  it.
• 27:58
  I
• 27:58
  was
• 27:58
  feeling
• 27:58
  lazy.
• 28:00
  Oh,
• 28:00
  so
• 28:00
  being
• 28:01
  a
• 28:01
  feminist
• 28:01
  is
• 28:01
  something
• 28:02
  you
• 28:02
  can
• 28:02
  choose
• 28:02
  to
• 28:03
  be,
• 28:03
  Josh.
• 28:04
  Oh,
• 28:04
  so
• 28:04
  you.
• 28:05
  At
• 28:06
  that
• 28:06
  point,
• 28:06
  it's
• 28:06
  okay.
• 28:07
  I'm
• 28:07
  Right
• 28:08
  into
• 28:08
  that
• 28:08
  one,
• 28:08
  Josh.
• 28:11
  Anyway,
• 28:12
  I
• 28:12
  didn't
• 28:12
  even
• 28:12
  have
• 28:12
  to
• 28:13
  hit
• 28:13
  you
• 28:13
  with
• 28:13
  the
• 28:13
  chair.
• 28:13
  You
• 28:14
  just,
• 28:14
  like,
• 28:14
  turned
• 28:14
  into
• 28:14
  it
• 28:15
  on
• 28:15
  that
• 28:15
  one.
• 28:17
  Are
• 28:17
  we
• 28:18
  gonna
• 28:18
  talk
• 28:19
  about.
• 28:19
  Yeah,
• 28:19
  we're
• 28:19
  just
• 28:19
  gonna
• 28:19
  keep
• 28:20
  dog
• 28:20
  piling
• 28:20
  on
• 28:20
  you.
• 28:20
  Okay,
• 28:21
  so
• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  question
• 28:21
  is,
• 28:23
  in
• 28:23
  Narnia,
• 28:25
  would
• 28:25
  Aslan.
• 28:26
  Was
• 28:26
  Aslan
• 28:27
  just
• 28:27
  going
• 28:27
  to
• 28:28
  die
• 28:28
  for.
• 28:28
  For
• 28:29
  Edmund
• 28:29
  because
• 28:30
  of
• 28:30
  the
• 28:30
  situation,
• 28:31
  or
• 28:31
  was
• 28:31
  Aslan
• 28:32
  always
• 28:32
  going
• 28:33
  to
• 28:33
  die?
• 28:33
  Is
• 28:33
  that
• 28:34
  the
• 28:34
  question?
• 28:35
  Or
• 28:35
  whatever
• 28:36
  he
• 28:36
  did.
• 28:36
  You
• 28:36
  know,
• 28:37
  I
• 28:37
  don't
• 28:37
  know
• 28:37
  if
• 28:37
  the.
• 28:38
  I'm
• 28:38
  gonna
• 28:38
  get
• 28:38
  to
• 28:38
  the
• 28:38
  death
• 28:38
  stuff
• 28:39
  in
• 28:39
  a
• 28:39
  second,
• 28:39
  but,
• 28:39
  like,
• 28:39
  that
• 28:40
  whole
• 28:40
  event,
• 28:40
  dying,
• 28:41
  coming
• 28:41
  back,
• 28:41
  whatever
• 28:42
  it
• 28:42
  is
• 28:42
  that
• 28:42
  makes
• 28:42
  the
• 28:43
  magic
• 28:43
  happen.
• 28:44
  Does
• 28:44
  he
• 28:44
  still
• 28:44
  do
• 28:45
  it
• 28:45
  without
• 28:45
  Edmund?
• 28:47
  Does
• 28:47
  he
• 28:47
  still
• 28:47
  do
• 28:48
  it
• 28:48
  without
• 28:48
  Edmund?
• 28:49
  Okay,
• 28:50
  so
• 28:51
  this
• 28:51
  is
• 28:51
  something
• 28:51
  I've
• 28:52
  been
• 28:52
  thinking
• 28:53
  a
• 28:53
  lot
• 28:53
  about
• 28:53
  as
• 28:53
  we've
• 28:54
  been
• 28:54
  going
• 28:54
  into
• 28:55
  this
• 28:55
  episode.
• 28:56
  I
• 28:56
  have
• 28:56
  heard
• 28:58
  in
• 28:58
  from
• 28:59
  one
• 28:59
  of
• 28:59
  those
• 28:59
  thick
• 29:00
  theology
• 29:01
  books
• 29:01
  that
• 29:01
  I've
• 29:02
  read
• 29:02
  for
• 29:02
  a
• 29:02
  class,
• 29:03
  and,
• 29:04
  like,
• 29:04
  thick,
• 29:04
  like,
• 29:05
  you
• 29:05
  know,
• 29:05
  really
• 29:06
  long.
• 29:06
  Not
• 29:06
  thick,
• 29:07
  like,
• 29:07
  you
• 29:07
  know,
• 29:07
  the
• 29:08
  good
• 29:08
  kind
• 29:08
  of
• 29:08
  thick.
• 29:09
  One
• 29:10
  of
• 29:10
  those
• 29:10
  thick
• 29:11
  theology
• 29:12
  books
• 29:12
  I
• 29:12
  had
• 29:12
  to
• 29:12
  read
• 29:13
  was
• 29:13
  talking
• 29:14
  about
• 29:14
  how
• 29:14
  what
• 29:15
  we
• 29:15
  see
• 29:15
  in
• 29:16
  Narnia
• 29:17
  is
• 29:18
  trying
• 29:18
  to
• 29:18
  remember
• 29:19
  the
• 29:19
  exact
• 29:19
  term
• 29:19
  now,
• 29:20
  but
• 29:20
  kind
• 29:20
  of
• 29:20
  this
• 29:22
  atonement
• 29:23
  theory
• 29:24
  where
• 29:26
  Jesus
• 29:27
  is
• 29:27
  replacing
• 29:28
  us
• 29:29
  in
• 29:29
  a
• 29:29
  way.
• 29:30
  It's
• 29:30
  like
• 29:31
  the
• 29:32
  devil
• 29:32
  has
• 29:32
  ownership
• 29:33
  of
• 29:34
  us,
• 29:34
  and
• 29:35
  so
• 29:35
  Christ's
• 29:35
  sacrifice
• 29:36
  was.
• 29:37
  Was
• 29:37
  a
• 29:38
  replacement
• 29:39
  to
• 29:40
  get
• 29:40
  us
• 29:41
  back
• 29:41
  from
• 29:42
  the
• 29:42
  devil.
• 29:43
  Not
• 29:43
  necessarily.
• 29:45
  Yes,
• 29:45
  dying
• 29:46
  for
• 29:46
  our
• 29:46
  sins,
• 29:47
  but
• 29:47
  not
• 29:48
  necessarily
• 29:49
  in
• 29:49
  the
• 29:50
  way
• 29:50
  that
• 29:50
  you
• 29:50
  may
• 29:51
  typically
• 29:51
  hear
• 29:51
  in
• 29:51
  an
• 29:51
  evangelical
• 29:52
  church
• 29:52
  kind
• 29:53
  of
• 29:53
  thing,
• 29:53
  but
• 29:54
  more
• 29:54
  of
• 29:54
  a,
• 29:55
  the
• 29:56
  devil
• 29:56
  owns
• 29:57
  you,
• 29:58
  and
• 29:58
  so
• 29:58
  you
• 29:59
  are
• 29:59
  being
• 30:00
  bought
• 30:00
  from
• 30:01
  the
• 30:01
  devil.
• 30:02
  And
• 30:02
  that
• 30:03
  is
• 30:03
  more
• 30:03
  so
• 30:03
  the
• 30:04
  style
• 30:04
  that
• 30:05
  we
• 30:05
  are
• 30:05
  seeing
• 30:05
  here.
• 30:06
  I
• 30:06
  will
• 30:07
  say
• 30:07
  this
• 30:08
  as
• 30:08
  a
• 30:09
  level
• 30:09
  one
• 30:10
  rank
• 30:10
  amateur
• 30:11
  Lewis
• 30:12
  person,
• 30:13
  I
• 30:14
  don't
• 30:14
  think
• 30:14
  that
• 30:15
  was
• 30:15
  CS
• 30:15
  Lewis's
• 30:16
  intended
• 30:17
  purpose
• 30:17
  was
• 30:18
  to
• 30:18
  communicate
• 30:19
  this
• 30:19
  kind
• 30:20
  of
• 30:20
  atonement
• 30:21
  theory.
• 30:22
  I
• 30:23
  think
• 30:23
  it
• 30:23
  just
• 30:23
  works
• 30:24
  for
• 30:24
  the
• 30:24
  book.
• 30:25
  You
• 30:26
  know,
• 30:26
  we
• 30:26
  were
• 30:26
  kind
• 30:26
  of
• 30:27
  poking
• 30:27
  fun
• 30:27
  a
• 30:27
  little
• 30:28
  bit
• 30:28
  at
• 30:28
  the.
• 30:29
  Just
• 30:29
  how,
• 30:30
  like,
• 30:30
  on
• 30:30
  the
• 30:30
  head,
• 30:31
  a
• 30:31
  lot
• 30:31
  of
• 30:31
  the
• 30:31
  theology
• 30:32
  is
• 30:32
  in
• 30:33
  this
• 30:33
  one.
• 30:33
  I
• 30:34
  got
• 30:34
  to
• 30:34
  say,
• 30:34
  I
• 30:35
  love
• 30:36
  the
• 30:36
  death
• 30:37
  and
• 30:37
  resurrection
• 30:38
  of
• 30:38
  Aslan.
• 30:39
  I
• 30:39
  love
• 30:39
  the
• 30:40
  stone
• 30:40
  table.
• 30:41
  I
• 30:41
  love
• 30:41
  the
• 30:41
  stone
• 30:42
  table
• 30:42
  being
• 30:42
  snapped,
• 30:43
  like,
• 30:44
  all
• 30:44
  of
• 30:44
  that.
• 30:44
  And
• 30:44
  then
• 30:45
  just
• 30:45
  like
• 30:45
  Lewis
• 30:45
  is
• 30:46
  just
• 30:46
  like
• 30:47
  such
• 30:47
  a
• 30:47
  comfortable
• 30:48
  use
• 30:48
  of
• 30:48
  the
• 30:48
  word
• 30:49
  magic
• 30:49
  throughout
• 30:50
  all
• 30:50
  of
• 30:50
  this.
• 30:50
  It
• 30:51
  is
• 30:51
  a
• 30:51
  deep
• 30:52
  magic.
• 30:52
  Do
• 30:52
  not
• 30:53
  quote
• 30:53
  the
• 30:53
  deep
• 30:53
  magic
• 30:54
  to
• 30:54
  me
• 30:54
  where
• 30:55
  I
• 30:55
  was
• 30:55
  there
• 30:55
  when
• 30:55
  it
• 30:56
  was
• 30:56
  written
• 30:56
  in
• 30:56
  my
• 30:57
  best
• 30:57
  Liam
• 30:57
  Neeson,
• 30:58
  which
• 30:58
  wasn't
• 30:58
  very
• 30:58
  good,
• 30:59
  but.
• 31:00
  So
• 31:01
  I
• 31:02
  don't
• 31:02
  know
• 31:02
  if
• 31:02
  that
• 31:03
  can
• 31:03
  get
• 31:03
  us
• 31:03
  started
• 31:04
  or
• 31:04
  not.
• 31:04
  But
• 31:04
  I
• 31:04
  know
• 31:05
  that
• 31:05
  part
• 31:05
  of
• 31:05
  what's
• 31:06
  going
• 31:06
  on
• 31:06
  here
• 31:07
  is
• 31:07
  kind
• 31:07
  of
• 31:08
  this,
• 31:08
  like,
• 31:09
  bargaining
• 31:10
  aspect.
• 31:11
  And
• 31:11
  if,
• 31:12
  if
• 31:12
  we're
• 31:12
  going
• 31:12
  to
• 31:13
  run
• 31:13
  with
• 31:13
  that
• 31:13
  theory,
• 31:14
  then
• 31:15
  no,
• 31:16
  Edmund
• 31:16
  has
• 31:17
  to
• 31:17
  be
• 31:17
  there
• 31:18
  in
• 31:18
  order
• 31:18
  for
• 31:18
  Aslan.
• 31:19
  Aslan
• 31:20
  has
• 31:20
  to
• 31:20
  offer
• 31:21
  himself
• 31:22
  in
• 31:22
  replacement
• 31:23
  of
• 31:23
  somebody
• 31:24
  in
• 31:24
  order
• 31:25
  for
• 31:25
  this
• 31:25
  kind
• 31:26
  of
• 31:26
  scenario
• 31:27
  to
• 31:27
  work
• 31:27
  out.
• 31:28
  So
• 31:28
  I'll
• 31:28
  set
• 31:28
  it
• 31:29
  there
• 31:29
  and
• 31:29
  then
• 31:30
  you
• 31:30
  guys
• 31:30
  can,
• 31:30
  like,
• 31:30
  take
• 31:31
  it
• 31:31
  from
• 31:31
  there.
• 31:32
  So
• 31:33
  that
• 31:33
  gets
• 31:33
  us
• 31:34
  to
• 31:34
  the
• 31:34
  next
• 31:34
  question,
• 31:34
  actually,
• 31:34
  because
• 31:35
  I
• 31:35
  was
• 31:35
  going
• 31:35
  to
• 31:35
  ask
• 31:35
  about
• 31:36
  atonement
• 31:36
  theory
• 31:36
  stuff
• 31:37
  because
• 31:37
  I
• 31:37
  don't
• 31:38
  know
• 31:38
  if
• 31:38
  I'm
• 31:38
  misremembering
• 31:39
  the
• 31:39
  book,
• 31:39
  but
• 31:39
  I
• 31:40
  feel
• 31:40
  like
• 31:40
  it's
• 31:40
  a
• 31:40
  little
• 31:40
  more
• 31:41
  ambiguous.
• 31:41
  Like,
• 31:41
  I've
• 31:42
  always
• 31:42
  is
• 31:42
  a
• 31:42
  little
• 31:42
  curious
• 31:42
  about
• 31:43
  this
• 31:43
  because
• 31:43
  it
• 31:43
  doesn't
• 31:43
  seem
• 31:43
  like
• 31:44
  the
• 31:44
  White
• 31:44
  Witch
• 31:45
  was.
• 31:45
  If
• 31:45
  you
• 31:45
  die,
• 31:46
  I'll
• 31:46
  give
• 31:46
  you
• 31:46
  this,
• 31:47
  you
• 31:47
  know,
• 31:47
  like,
• 31:48
  I
• 31:48
  don't
• 31:48
  remember
• 31:48
  it
• 31:49
  being
• 31:49
  like
• 31:49
  that.
• 31:50
  I
• 31:50
  also
• 31:50
  am
• 31:51
  not
• 31:51
  sure
• 31:51
  because,
• 31:52
  again,
• 31:52
  I
• 31:52
  don't
• 31:52
  remember
• 31:52
  exactly
• 31:53
  how
• 31:53
  everything's
• 31:53
  worded,
• 31:54
  if
• 31:54
  it
• 31:54
  was
• 31:54
  the
• 31:54
  death
• 31:54
  or
• 31:55
  the
• 31:55
  resurrection
• 31:56
  that
• 31:56
  caused,
• 31:58
  you
• 31:58
  know,
• 31:58
  them
• 31:58
  to
• 31:58
  be
• 31:59
  able
• 31:59
  to
• 31:59
  be
• 31:59
  free.
• 32:00
  So
• 32:01
  there's
• 32:01
  a
• 32:01
  lot
• 32:01
  of,
• 32:01
  like,
• 32:01
  questions
• 32:02
  here.
• 32:02
  So
• 32:02
  when
• 32:02
  we
• 32:02
  get
• 32:02
  to
• 32:02
  the
• 32:02
  atonement
• 32:03
  theory,
• 32:03
  just
• 32:03
  for
• 32:03
  the
• 32:03
  theology
• 32:04
  nerds
• 32:04
  out
• 32:04
  there,
• 32:05
  the
• 32:05
  theory
• 32:06
  that
• 32:06
  Brandon
• 32:07
  was
• 32:07
  describing
• 32:07
  is
• 32:07
  called
• 32:07
  ransom
• 32:08
  theory,
• 32:08
  is
• 32:08
  like,
• 32:08
  you
• 32:09
  sin
• 32:09
  now
• 32:09
  the
• 32:09
  devil
• 32:09
  owns
• 32:10
  you.
• 32:10
  We're
• 32:10
  like,
• 32:10
  ransoming
• 32:11
  for
• 32:11
  one
• 32:11
  another.
• 32:12
  The
• 32:12
  most
• 32:12
  popular
• 32:13
  today
• 32:14
  theory
• 32:14
  and
• 32:14
  like,
• 32:14
  evangelical
• 32:15
  American
• 32:15
  churches
• 32:16
  is
• 32:16
  probably
• 32:16
  going
• 32:16
  to
• 32:16
  be
• 32:17
  this
• 32:17
  penal
• 32:18
  substitution
• 32:18
  theory,
• 32:19
  which
• 32:19
  is
• 32:19
  really
• 32:20
  similar
• 32:20
  to
• 32:20
  the
• 32:20
  ransom.
• 32:21
  And
• 32:21
  that's
• 32:21
  this
• 32:21
  whole
• 32:22
  you
• 32:22
  sinned
• 32:22
  and
• 32:22
  you
• 32:22
  have
• 32:23
  to
• 32:23
  die.
• 32:24
  And
• 32:24
  it's
• 32:24
  not
• 32:24
  like
• 32:24
  the
• 32:24
  devil
• 32:25
  has
• 32:25
  power
• 32:25
  over
• 32:25
  it.
• 32:25
  It's
• 32:25
  like
• 32:26
  your
• 32:26
  choice.
• 32:26
  That's
• 32:27
  the
• 32:27
  consequence.
• 32:28
  And
• 32:28
  God's
• 32:28
  going
• 32:28
  to
• 32:29
  substitute
• 32:29
  himself
• 32:30
  to
• 32:31
  suffer
• 32:31
  the
• 32:31
  consequence.
• 32:32
  I
• 32:32
  myself
• 32:33
  am
• 32:33
  more
• 32:33
  of
• 32:34
  this
• 32:34
  Christus
• 32:34
  Victor
• 32:35
  model
• 32:35
  would
• 32:35
  be
• 32:35
  kind
• 32:35
  of
• 32:36
  the
• 32:36
  closest
• 32:36
  I
• 32:36
  think
• 32:36
  I
• 32:37
  come
• 32:37
  to
• 32:37
  when
• 32:37
  it
• 32:37
  comes
• 32:37
  to
• 32:38
  atonement
• 32:38
  theories
• 32:39
  that
• 32:39
  I
• 32:39
  think
• 32:39
  what's
• 32:39
  happening
• 32:40
  and
• 32:40
  we
• 32:40
  go
• 32:40
  to
• 32:41
  like,
• 32:41
  the
• 32:41
  real
• 32:41
  Easter
• 32:41
  story.
• 32:41
  I
• 32:41
  don't
• 32:42
  know
• 32:42
  about
• 32:42
  Aslan,
• 32:43
  but
• 32:43
  I
• 32:44
  think
• 32:44
  that
• 32:44
  Christ
• 32:45
  literally
• 32:45
  defeats
• 32:46
  death.
• 32:46
  He
• 32:46
  defeats
• 32:47
  sin,
• 32:47
  the
• 32:47
  grave,
• 32:48
  all
• 32:48
  of
• 32:48
  that,
• 32:48
  and
• 32:48
  we
• 32:49
  can
• 32:49
  share
• 32:49
  in
• 32:49
  the
• 32:49
  victory
• 32:50
  rather
• 32:50
  than,
• 32:51
  oh,
• 32:51
  God
• 32:51
  owed
• 32:52
  something
• 32:52
  to
• 32:52
  Satan,
• 32:53
  or
• 32:53
  oh,
• 32:53
  we
• 32:53
  were
• 32:53
  gonna
• 32:54
  die.
• 32:54
  And
• 32:54
  he
• 32:54
  was
• 32:54
  like,
• 32:54
  I
• 32:54
  guess
• 32:55
  I'll
• 32:55
  die
• 32:55
  for
• 32:55
  you.
• 32:55
  You
• 32:56
  know,
• 32:56
  like,
• 32:56
  I
• 32:56
  think
• 32:57
  it's
• 32:57
  more
• 32:57
  of
• 32:57
  a
• 32:57
  victory
• 32:58
  story.
• 32:59
  Yeah,
• 33:00
  okay.
• 33:00
  Joe
• 33:00
  was
• 33:01
  dying
• 33:01
  to
• 33:01
  say
• 33:01
  his
• 33:02
  part.
• 33:03
  Yeah,
• 33:04
  I'm.
• 33:04
  Well,
• 33:04
  I'm
• 33:04
  glad
• 33:05
  that.
• 33:05
  I'm
• 33:05
  glad
• 33:05
  that
• 33:05
  you
• 33:06
  went
• 33:06
  first
• 33:06
  because
• 33:06
  it
• 33:07
  ties
• 33:07
  in,
• 33:09
  gives
• 33:09
  a
• 33:09
  space
• 33:10
  to
• 33:10
  separate
• 33:10
  out
• 33:11
  the
• 33:11
  two.
• 33:11
  The.
• 33:12
  The
• 33:12
  two
• 33:12
  topics.
• 33:13
  Because
• 33:13
  I
• 33:14
  think
• 33:14
  one
• 33:14
  of
• 33:14
  the
• 33:15
  reasons
• 33:15
  why
• 33:16
  the
• 33:16
  lion,
• 33:16
  the
• 33:17
  Witch
• 33:17
  and
• 33:17
  the
• 33:17
  Wardrobe
• 33:18
  gets
• 33:18
  the
• 33:18
  rep
• 33:18
  that
• 33:19
  it
• 33:19
  does,
• 33:19
  and,
• 33:20
  and
• 33:20
  why,
• 33:21
  by
• 33:21
  proxy,
• 33:22
  this
• 33:23
  book
• 33:23
  is
• 33:24
  what
• 33:24
  informs
• 33:24
  A
• 33:25
  lot
• 33:25
  of
• 33:25
  people's
• 33:25
  opinions
• 33:26
  on
• 33:27
  Narnia
• 33:28
  as
• 33:28
  a
• 33:28
  whole
• 33:28
  as
• 33:29
  being
• 33:29
  this
• 33:30
  pseudo
• 33:31
  Christian
• 33:32
  allegorical,
• 33:34
  every
• 33:35
  bit
• 33:35
  has
• 33:35
  a
• 33:35
  tie
• 33:36
  in
• 33:36
  sort
• 33:37
  of,
• 33:37
  sort
• 33:37
  of
• 33:38
  misnomer
• 33:38
  that
• 33:39
  some
• 33:39
  folks
• 33:39
  have
• 33:40
  is
• 33:41
  because
• 33:41
  it
• 33:41
  does,
• 33:42
  it
• 33:42
  does.
• 33:42
  It
• 33:42
  plays
• 33:43
  with
• 33:43
  all
• 33:44
  of
• 33:44
  the
• 33:44
  puzzle
• 33:45
  pieces.
• 33:46
  Just
• 33:47
  not
• 33:47
  in
• 33:47
  the
• 33:47
  way
• 33:48
  that
• 33:48
  you
• 33:48
  should
• 33:48
  be
• 33:49
  drawing
• 33:49
  a
• 33:49
  clear
• 33:50
  cut
• 33:50
  comparison
• 33:51
  one
• 33:51
  for
• 33:52
  one.
• 33:52
  But
• 33:52
  to
• 33:52
  jump
• 33:53
  back
• 33:53
  to
• 33:53
  the,
• 33:53
  to
• 33:54
  the
• 33:54
  theology
• 33:54
  portion
• 33:55
  of
• 33:55
  it
• 33:56
  first.
• 33:57
  Yeah,
• 33:57
  I
• 33:58
  would,
• 33:58
  I
• 33:58
  would
• 33:59
  say,
• 34:00
  I
• 34:00
  mean
• 34:01
  somebody
• 34:01
  who
• 34:01
  cares
• 34:02
  a
• 34:02
  lot
• 34:02
  more
• 34:03
  about
• 34:03
  the,
• 34:03
  about
• 34:04
  the
• 34:04
  particulars
• 34:04
  and
• 34:05
  what
• 34:05
  you
• 34:05
  would
• 34:05
  classify
• 34:06
  things
• 34:07
  would
• 34:07
  have
• 34:07
  a
• 34:07
  much
• 34:08
  harder
• 34:08
  opinion
• 34:09
  on
• 34:09
  whether
• 34:09
  or
• 34:09
  not
• 34:09
  it's
• 34:10
  PSA
• 34:10
  or
• 34:11
  ransom.
• 34:12
  And
• 34:12
  in,
• 34:13
  in
• 34:13
  terms
• 34:13
  of
• 34:15
  the
• 34:15
  way
• 34:15
  that
• 34:15
  the,
• 34:15
  that
• 34:16
  that
• 34:16
  atonement
• 34:17
  works
• 34:17
  and
• 34:18
  is
• 34:18
  played
• 34:18
  out
• 34:18
  in,
• 34:19
  in
• 34:19
  lion,
• 34:20
  the
• 34:20
  Witch
• 34:20
  and
• 34:20
  the
• 34:20
  Wardrobe.
• 34:21
  I
• 34:21
  think
• 34:22
  for
• 34:23
  the
• 34:23
  most
• 34:23
  part
• 34:23
  I
• 34:24
  would
• 34:24
  agree
• 34:24
  with
• 34:24
  the
• 34:25
  way
• 34:25
  that
• 34:25
  Josh
• 34:25
  laid
• 34:26
  out
• 34:26
  the
• 34:26
  different
• 34:26
  atonement
• 34:27
  theories.
• 34:27
  I
• 34:28
  think
• 34:28
  there's
• 34:28
  only
• 34:28
  so
• 34:28
  far
• 34:29
  that
• 34:29
  you
• 34:29
  can
• 34:29
  get
• 34:29
  into
• 34:30
  it
• 34:30
  when
• 34:30
  you're
• 34:30
  talking
• 34:31
  in
• 34:31
  terms
• 34:31
  like
• 34:31
  we
• 34:31
  are
• 34:32
  right
• 34:32
  now.
• 34:33
  But
• 34:33
  I
• 34:33
  would
• 34:34
  absolutely
• 34:34
  fall
• 34:35
  into
• 34:35
  the
• 34:35
  same
• 34:35
  camp
• 34:36
  that,
• 34:37
  that,
• 34:37
  that
• 34:38
  Josh
• 34:38
  does
• 34:39
  simply,
• 34:40
  simply
• 34:40
  by
• 34:40
  the
• 34:41
  by
• 34:41
  proxy
• 34:41
  of
• 34:43
  it
• 34:43
  is
• 34:43
  the,
• 34:44
  this,
• 34:44
  this,
• 34:44
  this,
• 34:45
  this
• 34:45
  picture
• 34:46
  of,
• 34:47
  of
• 34:48
  atonement
• 34:49
  that
• 34:50
  has
• 34:50
  either
• 34:51
  a
• 34:51
  ransom
• 34:52
  being
• 34:53
  paid
• 34:53
  or
• 34:54
  a
• 34:54
  substitution
• 34:56
  being
• 34:56
  made
• 34:58
  relies
• 34:59
  on
• 34:59
  several
• 34:59
  key
• 35:00
  misunderstandings
• 35:01
  that
• 35:02
  to
• 35:02
  me
• 35:03
  have
• 35:03
  spun
• 35:03
  off
• 35:04
  so
• 35:04
  many
• 35:04
  bad
• 35:05
  thoughts.
• 35:05
  Either
• 35:06
  way
• 35:06
  I,
• 35:07
  I've
• 35:07
  seen
• 35:07
  like,
• 35:08
  like
• 35:09
  well
• 35:09
  meaning
• 35:10
  heresies
• 35:11
  born
• 35:11
  out
• 35:11
  of
• 35:12
  a
• 35:12
  misunderstanding
• 35:13
  about
• 35:13
  atonement
• 35:13
  because
• 35:14
  they
• 35:14
  heard
• 35:14
  it
• 35:14
  the
• 35:14
  wrong
• 35:14
  way.
• 35:15
  Because
• 35:15
  they
• 35:15
  heard
• 35:15
  they,
• 35:16
  they
• 35:16
  heard
• 35:16
  it
• 35:17
  in
• 35:17
  a
• 35:17
  way.
• 35:17
  And
• 35:17
  it's
• 35:17
  a
• 35:18
  response
• 35:18
  to
• 35:18
  the
• 35:18
  Sunday
• 35:18
  morning
• 35:19
  model.
• 35:19
  It's
• 35:19
  trauma.
• 35:20
  It's,
• 35:20
  it's
• 35:20
  just
• 35:20
  a
• 35:21
  cycle.
• 35:21
  It's
• 35:21
  just
• 35:21
  a
• 35:22
  cycle
• 35:22
  of
• 35:22
  trauma.
• 35:22
  That's
• 35:23
  all
• 35:23
  it
• 35:23
  is.
• 35:24
  And
• 35:25
  like
• 35:25
  likewise
• 35:26
  you
• 35:26
  have
• 35:26
  the
• 35:27
  institution
• 35:28
  promoting
• 35:28
  something
• 35:29
  that
• 35:29
  is
• 35:32
  predicated
• 35:33
  on
• 35:33
  the
• 35:33
  idea
• 35:34
  that
• 35:34
  you
• 35:34
  are
• 35:35
  a
• 35:35
  piece
• 35:35
  of
• 35:35
  crap
• 35:36
  and
• 35:36
  that
• 35:36
  you're
• 35:37
  no
• 35:37
  good
• 35:38
  and
• 35:38
  that
• 35:38
  you
• 35:39
  are
• 35:39
  all
• 35:40
  of
• 35:40
  these
• 35:40
  things
• 35:40
  and
• 35:41
  that
• 35:41
  because
• 35:41
  you
• 35:42
  pissed
• 35:42
  off
• 35:42
  God
• 35:43
  just
• 35:43
  by
• 35:43
  existing
• 35:44
  and
• 35:44
  having
• 35:44
  a
• 35:44
  pulse
• 35:45
  then,
• 35:45
  then
• 35:46
  you
• 35:46
  know,
• 35:46
  Jesus
• 35:47
  had
• 35:47
  to
• 35:47
  say,
• 35:47
  had
• 35:47
  to
• 35:47
  save
• 35:48
  you
• 35:48
  from
• 35:48
  your.
• 35:49
  Is
• 35:49
  everybody
• 35:49
  in
• 35:49
  the,
• 35:50
  in
• 35:50
  the
• 35:50
  church
• 35:50
  going
• 35:51
  to
• 35:51
  say
• 35:51
  it
• 35:51
  the
• 35:51
  way
• 35:51
  that
• 35:51
  I
• 35:51
  just
• 35:52
  did?
• 35:52
  Absolutely
• 35:53
  not.
• 35:53
  But
• 35:54
  extrapolate
• 35:54
  out
• 35:55
  the
• 35:55
  thought
• 35:55
  process
• 35:55
  and
• 35:56
  do
• 35:56
  the
• 35:56
  research
• 35:56
  for
• 35:57
  yourself
• 35:57
  and
• 35:58
  ask
• 35:58
  the
• 35:58
  big
• 35:58
  questions
• 35:59
  on
• 35:59
  what
• 35:59
  something
• 36:00
  like
• 36:00
  PSA
• 36:00
  is
• 36:01
  telling
• 36:01
  you
• 36:01
  versus
• 36:02
  what
• 36:02
  something
• 36:02
  like
• 36:03
  Christus
• 36:03
  Victor
• 36:04
  is
• 36:04
  telling
• 36:04
  you.
• 36:04
  Because
• 36:05
  it
• 36:05
  more
• 36:06
  in
• 36:06
  lines
• 36:06
  with
• 36:07
  everything
• 36:08
  about
• 36:08
  what
• 36:08
  we
• 36:08
  know
• 36:09
  up
• 36:09
  including
• 36:10
  up
• 36:10
  to
• 36:10
  the
• 36:10
  point
• 36:11
  of
• 36:11
  resurrection
• 36:12
  and
• 36:12
  including
• 36:12
  the
• 36:13
  Old
• 36:13
  Testament
• 36:13
  and
• 36:14
  including
• 36:14
  because
• 36:14
  oh
• 36:14
  crazy.
• 36:15
  It's
• 36:15
  one
• 36:16
  continuous
• 36:16
  narrative
• 36:16
  that
• 36:17
  ultimately
• 36:17
  leads
• 36:17
  to
• 36:18
  Jesus
• 36:18
  and
• 36:19
  you
• 36:19
  can't
• 36:19
  separate
• 36:20
  any
• 36:20
  of
• 36:20
  These
• 36:21
  out
• 36:21
  to
• 36:21
  try
• 36:21
  and
• 36:22
  custom
• 36:22
  fit
• 36:22
  an
• 36:23
  atonement
• 36:23
  theory
• 36:24
  or
• 36:24
  some
• 36:24
  principle
• 36:25
  about
• 36:25
  God
• 36:25
  that
• 36:25
  neglects
• 36:26
  a
• 36:26
  different
• 36:26
  part
• 36:26
  of
• 36:27
  Scripture.
• 36:27
  Okay,
• 36:27
  I'll
• 36:28
  stop
• 36:28
  preaching.
• 36:28
  That
• 36:29
  being
• 36:29
  said,
• 36:30
  the,
• 36:31
  the
• 36:31
  other
• 36:32
  side
• 36:32
  of
• 36:33
  it
• 36:33
  is
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  world
• 36:35
  that
• 36:35
  Lewis
• 36:36
  built.
• 36:36
  So
• 36:37
  as
• 36:37
  somebody
• 36:37
  who
• 36:38
  I,
• 36:38
  If.
• 36:38
  If
• 36:38
  Brandon
• 36:39
  is
• 36:39
  qualifying
• 36:40
  himself
• 36:40
  as
• 36:40
  a
• 36:41
  level
• 36:41
  one,
• 36:41
  which
• 36:42
  I
• 36:42
  think
• 36:42
  he
• 36:42
  is
• 36:42
  underselling
• 36:43
  himself,
• 36:44
  then
• 36:45
  then
• 36:45
  I
• 36:45
  would
• 36:46
  certainly
• 36:46
  put
• 36:46
  myself
• 36:47
  at
• 36:47
  least
• 36:47
  at
• 36:47
  a
• 36:47
  two
• 36:48
  or
• 36:48
  three
• 36:48
  or
• 36:48
  something
• 36:49
  along
• 36:49
  those
• 36:49
  lines.
• 36:50
  I,
• 36:50
  if
• 36:50
  I
• 36:50
  can
• 36:51
  go
• 36:51
  back
• 36:51
  to.
• 36:53
  If,
• 36:54
  If
• 36:54
  I,
• 36:54
  if
• 36:54
  I
• 36:54
  could
• 36:55
  go
• 36:55
  back
• 36:55
  to
• 36:55
  school
• 36:56
  and
• 36:56
  just
• 36:56
  get
• 36:57
  some
• 36:57
  degree
• 36:58
  that
• 36:58
  doesn't
• 36:59
  like
• 36:59
  it's
• 36:59
  not
• 37:00
  going
• 37:00
  to
• 37:00
  help
• 37:00
  me
• 37:00
  in
• 37:00
  anything.
• 37:01
  It's
• 37:01
  literally
• 37:02
  just
• 37:02
  classes
• 37:02
  that
• 37:03
  I
• 37:03
  want
• 37:03
  to
• 37:03
  take
• 37:05
  a
• 37:05
  degree
• 37:06
  in.
• 37:06
  Narnian
• 37:06
  studies
• 37:07
  would
• 37:07
  be.
• 37:08
  Would
• 37:08
  be
• 37:08
  phenomenal.
• 37:09
  And
• 37:10
  so
• 37:11
  what.
• 37:12
  What
• 37:12
  we
• 37:12
  have
• 37:12
  here
• 37:13
  is
• 37:13
  a
• 37:13
  custom
• 37:14
  build
• 37:15
  of.
• 37:16
  And
• 37:17
  words
• 37:17
  mean
• 37:17
  things.
• 37:17
  And
• 37:18
  we
• 37:18
  could
• 37:18
  talk
• 37:18
  about
• 37:18
  this
• 37:18
  another
• 37:19
  time
• 37:19
  if
• 37:19
  you
• 37:20
  want
• 37:20
  to.
• 37:20
  But
• 37:20
  Pagan,
• 37:23
  you
• 37:23
  know,
• 37:23
  Wiccan
• 37:25
  Christian.
• 37:26
  Different
• 37:27
  aspects
• 37:28
  and
• 37:28
  pieces
• 37:29
  of
• 37:29
  different
• 37:30
  belief
• 37:30
  systems
• 37:31
  instructions.
• 37:31
  And
• 37:32
  then
• 37:32
  I'm
• 37:32
  not,
• 37:32
  I'm
• 37:32
  not
• 37:33
  being
• 37:33
  exhaustive
• 37:34
  when
• 37:34
  I,
• 37:34
  when,
• 37:35
  when
• 37:35
  I
• 37:35
  say
• 37:35
  that,
• 37:36
  but
• 37:36
  you
• 37:36
  have
• 37:36
  this,
• 37:37
  this,
• 37:37
  this
• 37:38
  prophecy
• 37:40
  of
• 37:40
  the
• 37:40
  Sons
• 37:41
  of
• 37:41
  Adam
• 37:41
  and
• 37:41
  Daughters
• 37:42
  of
• 37:42
  Eve.
• 37:42
  So
• 37:43
  in
• 37:43
  order
• 37:43
  to
• 37:43
  understand
• 37:44
  that,
• 37:44
  you
• 37:44
  need
• 37:44
  to
• 37:44
  understand
• 37:45
  that.
• 37:46
  That
• 37:46
  humans
• 37:47
  have
• 37:47
  always
• 37:48
  been
• 37:48
  intrinsically
• 37:49
  linked
• 37:49
  to
• 37:49
  the
• 37:50
  background
• 37:50
  of,
• 37:51
  in
• 37:51
  the,
• 37:51
  in
• 37:51
  the
• 37:53
  Narnia
• 37:53
  that
• 37:53
  they
• 37:54
  were
• 37:54
  destined
• 37:54
  to
• 37:55
  be
• 37:55
  kings
• 37:56
  and
• 37:56
  queens
• 37:57
  of.
• 37:58
  Of
• 37:58
  Narnia
• 37:59
  and
• 37:59
  rule
• 38:00
  over
• 38:00
  and
• 38:00
  over
• 38:01
  Narnia.
• 38:01
  Like
• 38:02
  you
• 38:02
  know,
• 38:02
  you
• 38:02
  got,
• 38:02
  you
• 38:03
  got
• 38:03
  the.
• 38:04
  Why
• 38:05
  am
• 38:05
  I
• 38:05
  blinking?
• 38:05
  The
• 38:06
  Emperor
• 38:06
  beyond
• 38:06
  the
• 38:06
  sea
• 38:08
  and
• 38:08
  then
• 38:09
  as
• 38:09
  land
• 38:10
  and
• 38:10
  then,
• 38:11
  and
• 38:11
  then
• 38:11
  the,
• 38:11
  the.
• 38:12
  The
• 38:12
  kings
• 38:12
  and
• 38:12
  queens
• 38:13
  of
• 38:13
  of
• 38:13
  Narnia.
• 38:14
  And
• 38:14
  so
• 38:16
  the,
• 38:16
  the
• 38:16
  Pevenses
• 38:17
  the
• 38:17
  the.
• 38:17
  The
• 38:18
  four
• 38:18
  the
• 38:18
  four
• 38:18
  kids
• 38:19
  they.
• 38:19
  They
• 38:19
  are
• 38:20
  not
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  first
• 38:21
  in.
• 38:22
  In
• 38:22
  terms
• 38:23
  of
• 38:23
  lineage
• 38:24
  lineage,
• 38:26
  but
• 38:26
  there
• 38:26
  is
• 38:27
  this,
• 38:28
  this
• 38:28
  prophecy
• 38:29
  that
• 38:30
  the,
• 38:30
  the
• 38:31
  rule
• 38:31
  and
• 38:31
  reign
• 38:32
  of
• 38:32
  Jadis
• 38:33
  the
• 38:33
  White
• 38:33
  Witch
• 38:34
  will
• 38:34
  be
• 38:34
  broken
• 38:35
  upon.
• 38:36
  Upon
• 38:37
  the
• 38:37
  entering
• 38:37
  of
• 38:37
  the.
• 38:38
  Of
• 38:38
  the
• 38:38
  Sons
• 38:39
  of
• 38:39
  Adam
• 38:39
  and
• 38:39
  Daughters
• 38:40
  of
• 38:40
  Eve.
• 38:40
  And
• 38:40
  so
• 38:41
  now,
• 38:41
  now
• 38:42
  you
• 38:42
  separate
• 38:43
  out
• 38:43
  what's
• 38:43
  happening
• 38:44
  into
• 38:44
  a
• 38:45
  context
• 38:45
  of,
• 38:48
  of.
• 38:48
  Of.
• 38:48
  Of
• 38:48
  a
• 38:49
  larger
• 38:49
  mythos
• 38:50
  where,
• 38:50
  where
• 38:50
  there's
• 38:51
  there
• 38:51
  is
• 38:51
  a
• 38:51
  a
• 38:51
  prophecy.
• 38:52
  Now
• 38:53
  was
• 38:53
  what
• 38:54
  are
• 38:54
  we
• 38:54
  going
• 38:54
  to
• 38:55
  take
• 38:55
  it
• 38:55
  as
• 38:55
  far
• 38:55
  as
• 38:55
  to
• 38:56
  say
• 38:56
  that
• 38:56
  that
• 38:57
  by.
• 38:57
  By
• 38:57
  all
• 38:58
  of
• 38:58
  what
• 38:58
  I
• 38:58
  just
• 38:59
  said.
• 39:00
  I
• 39:00
  don't
• 39:00
  know.
• 39:01
  The
• 39:01
  Metichlorians
• 39:02
  came
• 39:02
  together
• 39:02
  and
• 39:02
  birthed
• 39:03
  Anakin.
• 39:03
  You
• 39:03
  know
• 39:04
  what
• 39:04
  I
• 39:04
  mean?
• 39:04
  Like
• 39:04
  like
• 39:04
  admin
• 39:05
  was
• 39:05
  an
• 39:05
  inevitability
• 39:06
  sort
• 39:06
  of
• 39:07
  sort
• 39:07
  of
• 39:07
  deal.
• 39:08
  Like
• 39:08
  like
• 39:09
  is
• 39:09
  that
• 39:09
  if
• 39:09
  that.
• 39:09
  If
• 39:10
  that's
• 39:10
  what
• 39:10
  we're
• 39:10
  saying.
• 39:10
  Okay,
• 39:12
  I.
• 39:12
  I
• 39:13
  would
• 39:13
  say.
• 39:13
  I
• 39:13
  would
• 39:13
  say.
• 39:14
  I
• 39:14
  would
• 39:14
  go
• 39:14
  as.
• 39:14
  Go
• 39:14
  as
• 39:15
  far
• 39:15
  as
• 39:15
  to
• 39:15
  say
• 39:15
  that
• 39:16
  the
• 39:16
  story
• 39:16
  Doesn'
• 39:19
  argue
• 39:19
  it
• 39:19
  from
• 39:20
  either
• 39:20
  position.
• 39:21
  I
• 39:21
  just
• 39:22
  think
• 39:22
  you
• 39:22
  would
• 39:22
  have
• 39:22
  to
• 39:23
  come
• 39:23
  strong
• 39:24
  if
• 39:24
  you're
• 39:24
  gonna
• 39:24
  try
• 39:25
  and
• 39:25
  convince
• 39:25
  me
• 39:26
  that
• 39:26
  it
• 39:26
  was.
• 39:27
  That
• 39:27
  it.
• 39:27
  That
• 39:28
  it
• 39:28
  was
• 39:28
  a
• 39:28
  definitive.
• 39:29
  These
• 39:29
  four
• 39:30
  kids
• 39:31
  were
• 39:31
  created
• 39:32
  for
• 39:32
  this
• 39:33
  exact
• 39:33
  purpose.
• 39:34
  And
• 39:34
  it
• 39:34
  had
• 39:34
  to
• 39:34
  be
• 39:35
  Edmund
• 39:36
  specifically
• 39:37
  that
• 39:37
  did
• 39:37
  it.
• 39:38
  Versus
• 39:39
  these
• 39:40
  four
• 39:40
  kids
• 39:40
  fit
• 39:40
  the
• 39:40
  bill.
• 39:41
  And.
• 39:42
  And
• 39:43
  this.
• 39:43
  This.
• 39:44
  This
• 39:44
  one
• 39:44
  falls
• 39:45
  away.
• 39:45
  And
• 39:46
  this
• 39:46
  magic,
• 39:47
  this
• 39:47
  law
• 39:48
  was
• 39:48
  written
• 39:48
  into
• 39:49
  effect
• 39:49
  where
• 39:50
  if
• 39:50
  this
• 39:51
  series
• 39:51
  of
• 39:52
  events
• 39:52
  happens,
• 39:54
  then
• 39:54
  this
• 39:54
  is
• 39:54
  what
• 39:55
  you
• 39:55
  do,
• 39:55
  right?
• 39:55
  This
• 39:56
  is
• 39:56
  what
• 39:56
  Aslan
• 39:57
  can
• 39:57
  step
• 39:57
  in,
• 39:58
  can
• 39:58
  step
• 39:58
  in
• 39:58
  and
• 39:58
  do
• 39:59
  in
• 39:59
  this
• 39:59
  situation.
• 40:00
  And
• 40:01
  the
• 40:01
  way
• 40:01
  I
• 40:01
  read
• 40:02
  it
• 40:02
  is
• 40:02
  less
• 40:02
  of.
• 40:03
  In.
• 40:04
  In
• 40:04
  all
• 40:04
  of
• 40:05
  this.
• 40:05
  It
• 40:06
  has
• 40:06
  to
• 40:06
  be
• 40:07
  that
• 40:08
  one
• 40:08
  of
• 40:08
  the
• 40:08
  kids
• 40:09
  are
• 40:09
  going
• 40:09
  to
• 40:09
  screw
• 40:10
  this
• 40:10
  up
• 40:10
  and
• 40:10
  the
• 40:11
  whole
• 40:11
  thing
• 40:11
  is
• 40:11
  going
• 40:12
  to
• 40:12
  have
• 40:12
  to
• 40:12
  happen
• 40:12
  and
• 40:13
  Aslan's
• 40:13
  going
• 40:13
  to
• 40:13
  have
• 40:13
  to
• 40:14
  die
• 40:14
  and
• 40:14
  die
• 40:14
  and
• 40:14
  come
• 40:15
  back.
• 40:15
  It's
• 40:15
  less
• 40:15
  that
• 40:16
  and
• 40:17
  more
• 40:17
  this.
• 40:18
  This
• 40:18
  thing,
• 40:18
  this
• 40:19
  prophecy
• 40:20
  happened,
• 40:21
  and
• 40:21
  then
• 40:21
  this
• 40:21
  other
• 40:22
  thing
• 40:22
  also
• 40:23
  is
• 40:23
  true.
• 40:24
  And
• 40:24
  more
• 40:24
  than
• 40:25
  one
• 40:25
  thing
• 40:25
  can
• 40:25
  be
• 40:25
  true
• 40:26
  at
• 40:26
  the
• 40:26
  same
• 40:27
  time.
• 40:28
  And
• 40:28
  during
• 40:29
  this
• 40:29
  thing
• 40:29
  happening
• 40:30
  over
• 40:30
  here,
• 40:31
  then
• 40:32
  this
• 40:32
  other
• 40:32
  thing
• 40:33
  happened.
• 40:33
  And
• 40:34
  so
• 40:34
  we
• 40:34
  can
• 40:34
  slot
• 40:35
  that
• 40:35
  in.
• 40:35
  And
• 40:36
  because
• 40:36
  of
• 40:36
  that,
• 40:36
  Aslan
• 40:37
  dies,
• 40:37
  comes
• 40:38
  back
• 40:38
  the
• 40:38
  whole
• 40:39
  nine
• 40:39
  yards.
• 40:39
  Yeah.
• 40:40
  Yeah.
• 40:41
  So
• 40:41
  a
• 40:41
  couple
• 40:42
  quick
• 40:42
  things
• 40:44
  so
• 40:44
  serious.
• 40:44
  Lewis
• 40:44
  and
• 40:44
  Tolkien
• 40:45
  were
• 40:45
  like,
• 40:45
  really
• 40:45
  good
• 40:45
  friends.
• 40:45
  So
• 40:46
  I.
• 40:46
  The
• 40:47
  fact
• 40:47
  that
• 40:47
  I
• 40:47
  know.
• 40:47
  I
• 40:47
  know
• 40:48
  Tolkien
• 40:48
  better
• 40:48
  than
• 40:48
  I
• 40:48
  know
• 40:48
  Lewis,
• 40:49
  and
• 40:49
  the
• 40:49
  fact
• 40:49
  that
• 40:49
  I
• 40:49
  know
• 40:49
  Tolkien
• 40:50
  believes
• 40:50
  everything
• 40:50
  was
• 40:50
  created
• 40:51
  good
• 40:51
  does
• 40:52
  make
• 40:52
  me
• 40:52
  think,
• 40:52
  you
• 40:53
  know,
• 40:53
  I'm
• 40:54
  not
• 40:54
  sure
• 40:54
  that
• 40:54
  Lewis
• 40:55
  meant
• 40:55
  the
• 40:55
  Ransom
• 40:56
  theory
• 40:56
  or
• 40:56
  subs.
• 40:57
  I
• 40:57
  don't
• 40:57
  know.
• 40:58
  He
• 40:58
  might
• 40:58
  have.
• 40:58
  But,
• 40:59
  like,
• 40:59
  part
• 40:59
  of
• 40:59
  that's
• 40:59
  part
• 40:59
  of
• 41:00
  why
• 41:00
  I've
• 41:00
  questioned
• 41:00
  his
• 41:01
  motives
• 41:01
  there.
• 41:01
  Especially
• 41:02
  when
• 41:02
  you
• 41:02
  go
• 41:02
  back
• 41:02
  to
• 41:02
  Magician's
• 41:03
  Nephew
• 41:03
  and
• 41:03
  you
• 41:03
  see
• 41:03
  how
• 41:04
  Aslan's
• 41:04
  creating
• 41:05
  everything
• 41:05
  in
• 41:05
  song,
• 41:05
  and
• 41:05
  I'm
• 41:06
  like,
• 41:06
  I
• 41:06
  just
• 41:07
  have
• 41:07
  a
• 41:07
  hard
• 41:07
  time
• 41:07
  piecing
• 41:08
  those
• 41:08
  two
• 41:08
  together.
• 41:08
  So
• 41:08
  I'm
• 41:08
  thinking
• 41:09
  it's
• 41:09
  just
• 41:09
  one
• 41:09
  of
• 41:09
  those
• 41:09
  stories.
• 41:10
  Allow
• 41:11
  a
• 41:11
  space
• 41:11
  to
• 41:11
  be
• 41:11
  a
• 41:11
  little
• 41:11
  bit
• 41:12
  more
• 41:12
  ambiguous.
• 41:12
  And
• 41:12
  that's
• 41:12
  why
• 41:13
  fiction's
• 41:13
  awesome.
• 41:15
  I'm
• 41:16
  gonna
• 41:16
  go
• 41:16
  ahead.
• 41:16
  Since
• 41:16
  I
• 41:16
  know
• 41:17
  we
• 41:17
  need
• 41:17
  to
• 41:17
  start
• 41:17
  wrapping
• 41:17
  up,
• 41:17
  I'm
• 41:17
  gonna
• 41:18
  throw
• 41:18
  this
• 41:18
  next
• 41:18
  thing
• 41:18
  to
• 41:18
  Brandon
• 41:19
  and
• 41:19
  I'm
• 41:19
  gonna
• 41:20
  open
• 41:20
  a
• 41:20
  huge
• 41:20
  can
• 41:20
  of
• 41:20
  worms.
• 41:21
  After
• 41:21
  I
• 41:21
  said
• 41:21
  we
• 41:21
  need
• 41:21
  to
• 41:22
  start
• 41:22
  wrapping
• 41:22
  up,
• 41:23
  because
• 41:23
  that's
• 41:24
  what
• 41:24
  I
• 41:24
  like
• 41:24
  to
• 41:24
  do.
• 41:25
  As
• 41:25
  I've
• 41:25
  got
• 41:25
  to
• 41:26
  know
• 41:26
  more
• 41:26
  open
• 41:26
  and
• 41:26
  relational
• 41:27
  theology
• 41:27
  people.
• 41:27
  I
• 41:28
  might
• 41:28
  be
• 41:28
  one.
• 41:28
  I'm
• 41:29
  unsure.
• 41:29
  And
• 41:30
  I'm
• 41:30
  meeting
• 41:30
  more
• 41:30
  of
• 41:30
  these
• 41:30
  people.
• 41:31
  And
• 41:31
  some
• 41:31
  of
• 41:31
  this.
• 41:32
  There
• 41:32
  are
• 41:32
  some
• 41:32
  theology
• 41:33
  ideas
• 41:33
  out
• 41:33
  there
• 41:33
  that's
• 41:34
  basically
• 41:35
  this
• 41:35
  whole
• 41:35
  thing
• 41:35
  of
• 41:36
  God
• 41:36
  is
• 41:37
  affected
• 41:37
  by
• 41:38
  us
• 41:38
  the
• 41:38
  same
• 41:38
  way
• 41:38
  that
• 41:38
  we're
• 41:38
  affected
• 41:39
  by
• 41:39
  God.
• 41:39
  It's
• 41:39
  a
• 41:39
  relationship,
• 41:40
  not
• 41:40
  Saying
• 41:40
  that
• 41:41
  God's
• 41:41
  attributes
• 41:41
  change,
• 41:42
  but
• 41:42
  that
• 41:42
  he
• 41:42
  reacts
• 41:42
  to
• 41:42
  us.
• 41:43
  And
• 41:43
  they'll
• 41:43
  point
• 41:43
  to
• 41:43
  parts
• 41:43
  in
• 41:43
  the
• 41:44
  Bible
• 41:44
  where
• 41:44
  it
• 41:44
  says
• 41:44
  God
• 41:44
  changed
• 41:45
  his
• 41:45
  mind.
• 41:45
  God
• 41:45
  did
• 41:45
  this,
• 41:45
  you
• 41:46
  know,
• 41:46
  different
• 41:46
  things.
• 41:47
  And
• 41:48
  I
• 41:48
  think
• 41:48
  the
• 41:48
  idea
• 41:48
  is
• 41:48
  that
• 41:48
  we
• 41:49
  don't
• 41:49
  really
• 41:49
  have
• 41:49
  free
• 41:49
  will,
• 41:50
  we
• 41:50
  don't
• 41:50
  really
• 41:50
  have
• 41:50
  any
• 41:50
  of
• 41:50
  the
• 41:51
  self,
• 41:51
  and
• 41:51
  it's
• 41:52
  all
• 41:52
  stacked
• 41:52
  on
• 41:52
  top
• 41:52
  of
• 41:52
  each
• 41:53
  other
• 41:53
  kind
• 41:53
  of
• 41:53
  deal.
• 41:54
  When
• 41:54
  I
• 41:54
  look
• 41:54
  at
• 41:54
  Edmund's
• 41:55
  story
• 41:55
  specifically
• 41:55
  as
• 41:56
  one
• 41:56
  of
• 41:56
  the
• 41:56
  faces
• 41:56
  behind
• 41:57
  Aslan,
• 41:57
  one
• 41:57
  of
• 41:57
  the
• 41:57
  things
• 41:58
  that
• 41:58
  stands
• 41:58
  out
• 41:59
  to
• 41:59
  me
• 41:59
  is,
• 41:59
  yeah,
• 42:00
  Aslan
• 42:01
  did
• 42:01
  an
• 42:01
  action
• 42:01
  because
• 42:02
  of
• 42:02
  Edmund
• 42:03
  that,
• 42:03
  yeah,
• 42:03
  he
• 42:03
  would
• 42:03
  have
• 42:04
  done
• 42:04
  for
• 42:04
  someone
• 42:04
  else,
• 42:04
  but
• 42:04
  it
• 42:05
  was
• 42:05
  because
• 42:05
  of
• 42:05
  what
• 42:05
  Edmund
• 42:06
  did.
• 42:06
  Like
• 42:06
  Edmund's
• 42:07
  actions
• 42:07
  still
• 42:07
  did
• 42:08
  have
• 42:08
  an
• 42:08
  impact
• 42:08
  on
• 42:09
  Aslan.
• 42:10
  And
• 42:10
  then
• 42:10
  later
• 42:10
  you'll
• 42:11
  see
• 42:11
  that
• 42:11
  Aslan's
• 42:12
  what
• 42:12
  Aslan
• 42:12
  did
• 42:12
  had
• 42:13
  an
• 42:13
  impact
• 42:13
  on
• 42:13
  Edmund.
• 42:14
  When
• 42:14
  we
• 42:14
  go
• 42:14
  to
• 42:15
  my
• 42:16
  favorite
• 42:16
  book
• 42:16
  in
• 42:16
  the
• 42:17
  series,
• 42:17
  we
• 42:18
  see
• 42:19
  this
• 42:19
  guy
• 42:19
  named
• 42:20
  Eustace
• 42:20
  who
• 42:20
  is
• 42:21
  absolutely
• 42:22
  worse
• 42:22
  than
• 42:22
  any
• 42:22
  of
• 42:22
  the
• 42:22
  other
• 42:23
  kids,
• 42:23
  way
• 42:23
  worse
• 42:23
  than
• 42:23
  Edmund
• 42:24
  ever
• 42:24
  was,
• 42:24
  in
• 42:24
  my
• 42:24
  opinion.
• 42:25
  Sure.
• 42:26
  But
• 42:26
  Edmund
• 42:27
  is
• 42:27
  the
• 42:27
  most
• 42:27
  compassionate
• 42:28
  towards
• 42:28
  him,
• 42:29
  the
• 42:29
  most
• 42:29
  understanding
• 42:29
  that
• 42:30
  this
• 42:30
  guy's
• 42:30
  awful.
• 42:31
  He
• 42:31
  ends
• 42:31
  up
• 42:31
  becoming
• 42:32
  a
• 42:32
  dragon
• 42:33
  and,
• 42:33
  you
• 42:33
  know,
• 42:33
  Aslan
• 42:33
  ends
• 42:34
  up
• 42:34
  saving
• 42:34
  him
• 42:34
  too.
• 42:34
  But
• 42:35
  I'm
• 42:36
  not
• 42:36
  sure
• 42:36
  that
• 42:37
  Edmund
• 42:37
  could
• 42:37
  have
• 42:37
  been
• 42:38
  there
• 42:38
  for
• 42:38
  him
• 42:38
  in
• 42:38
  the
• 42:39
  same
• 42:39
  way.
• 42:39
  And
• 42:39
  I
• 42:39
  think
• 42:39
  that
• 42:39
  would
• 42:40
  have
• 42:40
  fundamentally
• 42:40
  changed
• 42:41
  this
• 42:41
  story
• 42:41
  as
• 42:41
  well,
• 42:41
  as
• 42:42
  well
• 42:42
  as
• 42:42
  the
• 42:42
  Final
• 42:42
  Battle,
• 42:43
  all
• 42:43
  kinds
• 42:43
  of
• 42:43
  other
• 42:43
  stuff,
• 42:44
  if
• 42:44
  it
• 42:44
  wasn't
• 42:44
  for
• 42:45
  Edmund
• 42:46
  did
• 42:46
  something
• 42:46
  that
• 42:47
  caused
• 42:48
  Aslan
• 42:48
  to
• 42:49
  react,
• 42:49
  that
• 42:50
  caused
• 42:50
  Edmund
• 42:51
  to
• 42:51
  change
• 42:51
  again.
• 42:51
  So
• 42:51
  it's
• 42:52
  like
• 42:52
  kind
• 42:52
  of,
• 42:53
  I
• 42:53
  don't
• 42:53
  think
• 42:53
  we're
• 42:53
  ever
• 42:54
  just
• 42:54
  a
• 42:54
  one
• 42:54
  way
• 42:54
  influence.
• 42:55
  So
• 42:55
  I
• 42:55
  think
• 42:55
  it's
• 42:55
  a
• 42:55
  little
• 42:55
  bit
• 42:56
  of
• 42:56
  both.
• 42:56
  And
• 42:56
  in
• 42:56
  the
• 42:56
  story
• 42:57
  anyway,
• 42:57
  who
• 42:57
  knows
• 42:57
  how
• 42:57
  that
• 42:58
  applies
• 42:58
  to
• 42:58
  Jesus.
• 43:00
  Brandon,
• 43:01
  how,
• 43:02
  how
• 43:02
  do
• 43:02
  we
• 43:02
  look
• 43:03
  at
• 43:03
  this?
• 43:03
  Do
• 43:03
  we
• 43:03
  think
• 43:03
  that
• 43:04
  like
• 43:04
  just
• 43:04
  kind
• 43:05
  of
• 43:05
  like
• 43:05
  how
• 43:05
  we
• 43:05
  see
• 43:06
  this
• 43:06
  with
• 43:06
  Edmund
• 43:06
  and
• 43:06
  Aslan,
• 43:07
  this
• 43:07
  kind
• 43:08
  of
• 43:08
  push
• 43:08
  pull
• 43:08
  relationship.
• 43:10
  Is
• 43:10
  our
• 43:10
  relationship
• 43:11
  with
• 43:11
  Jesus
• 43:11
  similar?
• 43:12
  Is
• 43:12
  it
• 43:12
  like
• 43:13
  what
• 43:13
  we
• 43:13
  did
• 43:13
  caused
• 43:14
  Jesus
• 43:14
  to
• 43:14
  do
• 43:14
  something
• 43:14
  and
• 43:15
  then
• 43:15
  we're
• 43:15
  just
• 43:15
  reacting
• 43:15
  to
• 43:15
  what
• 43:16
  he
• 43:16
  reacted
• 43:16
  to?
• 43:16
  Is
• 43:17
  it
• 43:17
  like
• 43:17
  a
• 43:17
  normal
• 43:17
  relationship?
• 43:18
  What's,
• 43:18
  what's
• 43:19
  going
• 43:19
  on
• 43:19
  in
• 43:19
  your
• 43:19
  mind?
• 43:21
  Well,
• 43:21
  first
• 43:22
  I
• 43:22
  have
• 43:22
  to
• 43:22
  address
• 43:22
  something
• 43:23
  that's
• 43:23
  going
• 43:23
  on
• 43:23
  in
• 43:24
  my
• 43:24
  mind
• 43:24
  from
• 43:25
  Joe's
• 43:27
  meant
• 43:27
  what
• 43:27
  Joe
• 43:27
  said
• 43:28
  there
• 43:28
  a
• 43:28
  moment
• 43:28
  ago.
• 43:29
  Because
• 43:29
  Joe,
• 43:30
  like
• 43:30
  me,
• 43:31
  has
• 43:31
  this
• 43:31
  tendency
• 43:32
  to
• 43:32
  slip
• 43:32
  in
• 43:33
  geeky
• 43:34
  terms
• 43:35
  where
• 43:35
  they
• 43:35
  don't
• 43:35
  need
• 43:36
  to
• 43:36
  be
• 43:36
  used,
• 43:37
  but
• 43:37
  it's
• 43:37
  just,
• 43:37
  you
• 43:37
  know,
• 43:38
  you
• 43:38
  speak
• 43:38
  the
• 43:38
  language
• 43:39
  and
• 43:39
  it
• 43:39
  happens.
• 43:40
  And
• 43:40
  he
• 43:40
  said
• 43:41
  the
• 43:41
  phrase
• 43:41
  custom
• 43:42
  build
• 43:42
  to
• 43:43
  describe
• 43:43
  Lewis's
• 43:44
  building
• 43:44
  of
• 43:44
  Narnia.
• 43:45
  And
• 43:45
  now
• 43:46
  all
• 43:46
  I
• 43:46
  can
• 43:46
  picture
• 43:47
  is
• 43:47
  CS
• 43:47
  Lewis
• 43:48
  bent
• 43:49
  over
• 43:49
  with
• 43:49
  a
• 43:49
  paintbrush
• 43:50
  painting,
• 43:50
  a
• 43:51
  Warhammer,
• 43:52
  40K
• 43:54
  character.
• 43:55
  Like,
• 43:55
  that's
• 43:56
  all
• 43:56
  I
• 43:56
  can
• 43:56
  picture
• 43:56
  now.
• 43:57
  Okay,
• 43:58
  so
• 43:59
  to
• 44:00
  oversimplify
• 44:01
  and
• 44:02
  over
• 44:02
  summarize,
• 44:04
  Josh's
• 44:04
  question,
• 44:05
  basically
• 44:06
  what
• 44:07
  we
• 44:07
  see
• 44:07
  in
• 44:07
  Narnia
• 44:08
  is
• 44:10
  Aslan
• 44:10
  and
• 44:11
  the
• 44:11
  children
• 44:11
  and
• 44:12
  beyond
• 44:12
  with,
• 44:12
  like,
• 44:13
  Eustace,
• 44:13
  who
• 44:14
  is.
• 44:14
  Say
• 44:14
  it
• 44:14
  with
• 44:15
  me,
• 44:15
  useless.
• 44:16
  Eustace
• 44:16
  is
• 44:17
  useless
• 44:18
  for
• 44:18
  at
• 44:18
  least
• 44:18
  most
• 44:19
  of
• 44:19
  the
• 44:19
  voyage
• 44:19
  of
• 44:19
  the
• 44:19
  Dawn
• 44:20
  Treader.
• 44:22
  We
• 44:22
  see
• 44:22
  this
• 44:23
  kind
• 44:23
  of
• 44:23
  like
• 44:23
  push,
• 44:23
  pull,
• 44:24
  as
• 44:24
  you're
• 44:24
  saying,
• 44:24
  of
• 44:25
  the
• 44:26
  children
• 44:26
  are
• 44:26
  doing
• 44:26
  something.
• 44:28
  Edmund,
• 44:28
  Eustace.
• 44:30
  And
• 44:30
  this
• 44:30
  causes
• 44:30
  Aslan
• 44:31
  to
• 44:32
  intervene
• 44:33
  and
• 44:33
  the
• 44:33
  children
• 44:34
  are
• 44:34
  changed
• 44:34
  as
• 44:35
  a
• 44:35
  result.
• 44:36
  Is
• 44:36
  that
• 44:36
  a
• 44:37
  picture
• 44:38
  of
• 44:39
  our
• 44:39
  relationship
• 44:40
  with
• 44:40
  Jesus?
• 44:41
  That
• 44:41
  is
• 44:42
  the
• 44:42
  oversimplified
• 44:44
  we
• 44:44
  sinned.
• 44:45
  It's
• 44:45
  a
• 44:45
  better
• 44:46
  wording
• 44:46
  of
• 44:46
  my
• 44:46
  question.
• 45:48
  I'm
• 45:48
  trying.
• 45:49
  I'm
• 45:50
  trying
• 45:50
  to
• 45:51
  Jesus,
• 45:52
  no,
• 45:53
  wait,
• 45:53
  we
• 45:53
  sinned.
• 45:54
  We
• 45:54
  sinned.
• 45:54
  Jesus
• 45:55
  had
• 45:55
  to
• 45:56
  die
• 45:56
  for
• 45:56
  that
• 45:57
  sin.
• 45:57
  And
• 45:58
  therefore,
• 45:59
  I
• 45:59
  think
• 45:59
  part
• 45:59
  of
• 45:59
  that,
• 46:00
  though,
• 46:00
  is
• 46:01
  the
• 46:01
  words
• 46:01
  coming
• 46:02
  out
• 46:02
  of
• 46:02
  my
• 46:02
  mouth.
• 46:02
  That
• 46:03
  takes
• 46:03
  us
• 46:03
  back
• 46:03
  to
• 46:03
  the
• 46:03
  atonement
• 46:04
  theory
• 46:04
  thing
• 46:05
  of
• 46:06
  what
• 46:06
  I
• 46:06
  am
• 46:07
  describing
• 46:07
  then
• 46:08
  is
• 46:09
  penal
• 46:09
  substitution.
• 46:11
  We
• 46:11
  did
• 46:11
  something.
• 46:12
  Edmund
• 46:13
  did
• 46:13
  something
• 46:14
  wrong.
• 46:15
  It
• 46:15
  results
• 46:16
  in
• 46:16
  Aslan
• 46:17
  having
• 46:17
  to
• 46:18
  intervene.
• 46:19
  And
• 46:19
  then
• 46:20
  on
• 46:20
  the
• 46:20
  back
• 46:20
  end
• 46:21
  of
• 46:21
  it,
• 46:21
  Edmund
• 46:22
  is
• 46:22
  changed
• 46:22
  and
• 46:23
  therefore
• 46:23
  can
• 46:24
  positively
• 46:24
  affect
• 46:25
  Eustace
• 46:26
  down
• 46:26
  the
• 46:26
  line.
• 46:27
  I
• 46:27
  will
• 46:27
  be
• 46:28
  clear.
• 46:28
  I'm
• 46:29
  not
• 46:29
  advocating
• 46:29
  for
• 46:30
  that
• 46:30
  position
• 46:31
  just
• 46:31
  to
• 46:31
  be
• 46:32
  clear.
• 46:32
  I'm
• 46:33
  just
• 46:33
  trying
• 46:33
  to
• 46:33
  show
• 46:33
  how
• 46:34
  I
• 46:34
  think
• 46:35
  the
• 46:35
  way
• 46:35
  that
• 46:36
  we're
• 46:36
  having
• 46:36
  this
• 46:37
  conversation.
• 46:38
  These
• 46:38
  are
• 46:38
  the
• 46:38
  pieces
• 46:39
  that
• 46:39
  are
• 46:39
  playing
• 46:40
  out.
• 46:41
  Okay.
• 46:43
  I
• 46:43
  definitely
• 46:44
  think,
• 46:45
  you
• 46:45
  know,
• 46:45
  you
• 46:46
  look
• 46:46
  at
• 46:46
  First
• 46:46
  John,
• 46:47
  whatever.
• 46:48
  I'm
• 46:48
  terrible
• 46:48
  with
• 46:48
  references.
• 46:49
  One
• 46:49
  of
• 46:49
  the
• 46:49
  reasons
• 46:50
  why
• 46:50
  I'm
• 46:50
  not
• 46:50
  a
• 46:50
  very
• 46:50
  good
• 46:51
  pastor.
• 46:52
  First
• 46:52
  John,
• 46:53
  we
• 46:53
  love
• 46:54
  because
• 46:54
  he
• 46:55
  first
• 46:55
  loved
• 46:55
  us.
• 46:56
  So
• 46:57
  our
• 46:58
  experience
• 46:58
  of
• 46:59
  God's
• 46:59
  love,
• 46:59
  Jesus's
• 47:00
  love
• 47:00
  for
• 47:01
  us,
• 47:02
  therefore
• 47:02
  informs
• 47:03
  how
• 47:03
  we
• 47:03
  love
• 47:03
  others.
• 47:04
  And
• 47:05
  obviously,
• 47:05
  this
• 47:06
  also
• 47:06
  goes
• 47:06
  to
• 47:07
  the
• 47:07
  Holy
• 47:07
  Spirit's
• 47:08
  involvement
• 47:09
  in,
• 47:10
  you
• 47:10
  know,
• 47:10
  the
• 47:10
  fruit
• 47:11
  of
• 47:11
  the
• 47:11
  Spirit.
• 47:11
  Love,
• 47:11
  joy,
• 47:11
  peace.
• 47:14
  I
• 47:14
  would
• 47:15
  say
• 47:15
  that
• 47:16
  love
• 47:17
  is
• 47:17
  not
• 47:17
  the
• 47:17
  only
• 47:18
  one
• 47:18
  that
• 47:18
  we
• 47:18
  experience
• 47:19
  from
• 47:19
  God
• 47:19
  and
• 47:20
  therefore
• 47:20
  then
• 47:20
  can
• 47:21
  give
• 47:22
  out
• 47:22
  to
• 47:22
  other
• 47:22
  people.
• 47:23
  I
• 47:23
  preached
• 47:23
  a
• 47:24
  sermon
• 47:25
  on
• 47:25
  Genesis
• 47:26
  50:15
• 47:27
  through
• 47:27
  21.
• 47:28
  That
• 47:28
  reference
• 47:28
  I
• 47:29
  know
• 47:29
  because
• 47:29
  I
• 47:29
  just
• 47:29
  talked
• 47:30
  about
• 47:30
  it.
• 47:31
  And
• 47:31
  this
• 47:31
  is
• 47:32
  the.
• 47:34
  Jacob
• 47:34
  has
• 47:35
  died.
• 47:35
  Joseph
• 47:35
  and
• 47:36
  his
• 47:36
  brothers
• 47:36
  have
• 47:36
  been.
• 47:37
  And
• 47:37
  his
• 47:37
  family
• 47:37
  are
• 47:37
  all
• 47:38
  reunited.
• 47:38
  Jacob
• 47:39
  has
• 47:39
  died.
• 47:39
  The
• 47:39
  brothers
• 47:39
  are
• 47:40
  like,
• 47:40
  oh,
• 47:40
  no,
• 47:41
  Joseph's
• 47:42
  going
• 47:42
  to
• 47:42
  kill
• 47:42
  us
• 47:42
  all
• 47:42
  now
• 47:42
  because
• 47:43
  Dad's
• 47:43
  gone.
• 47:44
  And
• 47:45
  it
• 47:45
  says
• 47:45
  in
• 47:45
  the
• 47:46
  text
• 47:46
  that
• 47:46
  when
• 47:47
  they
• 47:47
  come
• 47:47
  to
• 47:47
  Joseph
• 47:48
  seeking
• 47:49
  forgiveness,
• 47:50
  Joseph
• 47:51
  forgives
• 47:51
  them
• 47:52
  and
• 47:53
  speaks
• 47:53
  kindly
• 47:54
  to
• 47:54
  them.
• 47:54
  And
• 47:55
  so
• 47:55
  what
• 47:55
  we
• 47:55
  see
• 47:56
  in
• 47:56
  that
• 47:56
  text
• 47:56
  is
• 47:56
  that,
• 47:57
  Joseph,
• 47:58
  we're
• 47:58
  not
• 47:59
  Joseph,
• 47:59
  we're
• 48:00
  the
• 48:00
  brothers.
• 48:01
  If
• 48:01
  anything,
• 48:01
  what
• 48:02
  we
• 48:02
  see
• 48:02
  in
• 48:02
  the
• 48:02
  life
• 48:02
  of
• 48:03
  Joseph
• 48:03
  in
• 48:03
  his
• 48:03
  relationship
• 48:04
  with
• 48:04
  his
• 48:04
  brothers
• 48:05
  mirrors
• 48:06
  the
• 48:06
  parable
• 48:07
  of
• 48:07
  the
• 48:07
  prodigal
• 48:07
  son,
• 48:08
  of
• 48:09
  the
• 48:09
  son
• 48:10
  going
• 48:10
  off
• 48:10
  doing
• 48:10
  his
• 48:11
  thing,
• 48:11
  basically
• 48:11
  wishing
• 48:12
  his
• 48:12
  father
• 48:12
  was
• 48:13
  dead,
• 48:13
  and
• 48:13
  then
• 48:14
  having
• 48:14
  to
• 48:14
  come
• 48:15
  back
• 48:15
  to
• 48:15
  his
• 48:15
  father
• 48:16
  to
• 48:16
  seek
• 48:17
  forgiveness
• 48:17
  and
• 48:17
  offer
• 48:18
  himself
• 48:18
  lower
• 48:19
  than
• 48:19
  what
• 48:20
  he
• 48:20
  should
• 48:20
  as
• 48:20
  a
• 48:21
  child,
• 48:21
  as
• 48:21
  his
• 48:21
  own
• 48:22
  child,
• 48:22
  and
• 48:22
  the
• 48:22
  father
• 48:23
  accepts
• 48:23
  them.
• 48:23
  It's
• 48:24
  almost
• 48:25
  verbatim
• 48:25
  the
• 48:26
  same
• 48:26
  thing
• 48:26
  with
• 48:26
  Joseph
• 48:27
  and
• 48:27
  his
• 48:27
  brothers.
• 48:29
  And
• 48:29
  it
• 48:29
  is
• 48:30
  his
• 48:30
  kindness
• 48:31
  that
• 48:31
  reconciles
• 48:33
  this
• 48:33
  relationship.
• 48:34
  And
• 48:35
  therefore
• 48:36
  Joseph
• 48:36
  serves
• 48:37
  as
• 48:37
  a
• 48:37
  picture
• 48:38
  of
• 48:38
  God's
• 48:39
  kindness
• 48:39
  to
• 48:40
  us,
• 48:40
  reconciling
• 48:41
  us
• 48:41
  back
• 48:41
  to
• 48:41
  him.
• 48:42
  So
• 48:42
  I
• 48:42
  definitely
• 48:43
  would
• 48:43
  agree
• 48:44
  that
• 48:45
  what
• 48:45
  God
• 48:45
  does
• 48:47
  impacts
• 48:47
  us
• 48:48
  in
• 48:48
  a
• 48:48
  way
• 48:49
  that
• 48:49
  where
• 48:49
  his
• 48:49
  specific
• 48:50
  characteristics,
• 48:51
  love,
• 48:51
  joy,
• 48:51
  peace,
• 48:52
  kindness,
• 48:52
  grace,
• 48:53
  mercy,
• 48:53
  justice,
• 48:54
  the
• 48:54
  whole
• 48:54
  bit,
• 48:54
  all
• 48:55
  of
• 48:55
  the
• 48:55
  above.
• 48:56
  How
• 48:56
  he
• 48:56
  demonstrates
• 48:57
  that
• 48:57
  to
• 48:57
  us,
• 48:57
  therefore
• 48:58
  then
• 48:58
  changes
• 48:59
  how
• 48:59
  we
• 48:59
  do
• 48:59
  that
• 49:00
  towards
• 49:00
  others,
• 49:01
  or
• 49:01
  at
• 49:01
  least
• 49:02
  it
• 49:02
  should,
• 49:03
  despite
• 49:03
  how
• 49:03
  the
• 49:04
  rest
• 49:04
  of
• 49:04
  American
• 49:04
  Christianity
• 49:05
  works.
• 49:06
  But
• 49:06
  that's
• 49:06
  something
• 49:07
  for
• 49:07
  another
• 49:07
  show
• 49:08
  to
• 49:08
  work
• 49:08
  on.
• 49:10
  Whether
• 49:11
  it's
• 49:12
  we
• 49:12
  did
• 49:13
  something
• 49:13
  and
• 49:13
  therefore
• 49:14
  God
• 49:15
  has
• 49:15
  to
• 49:16
  respond
• 49:17
  to
• 49:17
  that.
• 49:18
  I'm
• 49:18
  still
• 49:19
  trying
• 49:19
  to
• 49:19
  work
• 49:19
  out
• 49:19
  on
• 49:20
  my
• 49:20
  own,
• 49:20
  if
• 49:20
  I'm
• 49:20
  being
• 49:21
  honest
• 49:21
  right
• 49:21
  now.
• 49:21
  I've
• 49:22
  been
• 49:22
  reading
• 49:22
  the
• 49:22
  book
• 49:22
  of
• 49:22
  Exodus
• 49:23
  and
• 49:23
  that
• 49:24
  does
• 49:24
  come
• 49:24
  up
• 49:24
  a
• 49:24
  lot.
• 49:25
  What
• 49:25
  you
• 49:25
  said
• 49:25
  earlier
• 49:26
  of
• 49:26
  and
• 49:26
  God
• 49:27
  changed
• 49:27
  his
• 49:27
  mind
• 49:28
  and
• 49:28
  God
• 49:28
  remembered
• 49:29
  and
• 49:29
  it's
• 49:30
  like
• 49:30
  it
• 49:30
  is
• 49:31
  very
• 49:31
  relational.
• 49:32
  The
• 49:32
  book
• 49:32
  of
• 49:32
  Exodus
• 49:33
  is
• 49:33
  hyper
• 49:34
  relational.
• 49:34
  It's
• 49:35
  God
• 49:35
  stepping
• 49:35
  into
• 49:36
  the
• 49:36
  story
• 49:36
  of
• 49:37
  Israel
• 49:37
  and
• 49:38
  saying,
• 49:39
  okay,
• 49:39
  I'm
• 49:40
  going
• 49:40
  to
• 49:40
  make
• 49:40
  this
• 49:41
  more
• 49:42
  personal
• 49:42
  now,
• 49:43
  this
• 49:43
  what
• 49:44
  we're
• 49:44
  doing
• 49:44
  here.
• 49:44
  I'm
• 49:45
  going
• 49:45
  to
• 49:45
  make
• 49:45
  it
• 49:45
  even
• 49:45
  more
• 49:45
  personal
• 49:46
  than
• 49:46
  my
• 49:47
  relationship
• 49:47
  with
• 49:48
  Abraham,
• 49:48
  Isaac
• 49:49
  and
• 49:49
  Jacob.
• 49:50
  And
• 49:51
  so
• 49:52
  from
• 49:52
  the
• 49:53
  lens
• 49:53
  of,
• 49:54
  I
• 49:54
  guess
• 49:55
  I
• 49:55
  would
• 49:55
  say
• 49:55
  two
• 49:56
  perspectives.
• 49:57
  Narnia
• 49:58
  is
• 49:58
  a
• 49:58
  book.
• 49:59
  Lewis
• 49:59
  can
• 50:00
  write
• 50:00
  what
• 50:00
  he
• 50:00
  wants.
• 50:01
  And
• 50:01
  so
• 50:01
  yeah,
• 50:02
  it
• 50:02
  is
• 50:02
  quite
• 50:02
  obvious
• 50:03
  that
• 50:03
  the
• 50:04
  actions
• 50:04
  that
• 50:04
  the
• 50:04
  children
• 50:05
  do
• 50:05
  directly
• 50:06
  influences
• 50:07
  the
• 50:07
  Jesus
• 50:07
  character.
• 49:07
  Yeah,
• 50:09
  Scripture
• 50:11
  to
• 50:11
  me,
• 50:12
  as
• 50:12
  I'm
• 50:12
  working
• 50:13
  my
• 50:13
  own
• 50:13
  faith
• 50:14
  out,
• 50:15
  it's
• 50:16
  way
• 50:16
  more
• 50:16
  ambiguous
• 50:17
  to
• 50:17
  me
• 50:18
  than
• 50:18
  it
• 50:18
  used
• 50:18
  to
• 50:18
  be.
• 50:19
  I
• 50:19
  did
• 50:19
  come
• 50:20
  from
• 50:20
  the
• 50:20
  whole,
• 50:21
  well,
• 50:21
  God
• 50:21
  didn't
• 50:22
  really
• 50:22
  change
• 50:22
  his
• 50:23
  mind,
• 50:24
  was
• 50:24
  going
• 50:24
  to
• 50:25
  do
• 50:25
  this
• 50:25
  all
• 50:25
  along
• 50:26
  kind
• 50:27
  of
• 50:27
  perspective.
• 50:28
  That
• 50:28
  was
• 50:28
  what
• 50:29
  I
• 50:29
  was
• 50:29
  raised
• 50:30
  in.
• 50:31
  To
• 50:32
  me
• 50:32
  that
• 50:32
  just
• 50:32
  seems
• 50:33
  like
• 50:33
  too
• 50:33
  simple
• 50:34
  of
• 50:34
  an
• 50:34
  answer.
• 50:35
  Like
• 50:35
  we're
• 50:36
  scared
• 50:36
  to
• 50:36
  maybe
• 50:37
  sit
• 50:37
  with
• 50:37
  the
• 50:37
  idea
• 50:38
  that
• 50:38
  God
• 50:39
  does
• 50:39
  change
• 50:40
  his
• 50:40
  mind
• 50:40
  or
• 50:41
  that
• 50:41
  even
• 50:42
  that
• 50:42
  our
• 50:42
  actions
• 50:43
  make
• 50:44
  an
• 50:44
  impact
• 50:44
  on
• 50:45
  him.
• 50:45
  So
• 50:46
  sorry,
• 50:47
  that
• 50:47
  was
• 50:47
  a
• 50:47
  long
• 50:48
  winded
• 50:48
  answer
• 50:49
  for
• 50:50
  here's
• 50:50
  one
• 50:50
  thing
• 50:51
  and
• 50:51
  I
• 50:51
  don't
• 50:51
  know
• 50:51
  about
• 50:51
  the
• 50:52
  rest,
• 50:52
  but
• 50:52
  hopefully
• 50:53
  Joe
• 50:53
  can
• 50:54
  save
• 50:54
  us
• 50:54
  all.
• 50:54
  Now
• 50:55
  I
• 50:55
  give
• 50:55
  you
• 50:55
  a
• 50:56
  really
• 50:56
  complicated
• 50:56
  question.
• 50:57
  I'm
• 50:57
  gonna
• 50:58
  speak
• 50:58
  my
• 50:58
  piece
• 50:58
  and
• 50:58
  let
• 50:59
  Joe
• 50:59
  take
• 50:59
  us
• 51:00
  home
• 51:00
  before
• 51:00
  we
• 51:01
  finally
• 51:01
  do
• 51:02
  the
• 51:02
  actual
• 51:02
  wrap
• 51:02
  up
• 51:02
  Here
• 51:03
  just
• 51:04
  because,
• 51:04
  you
• 51:04
  know,
• 51:04
  Joe
• 51:05
  might
• 51:05
  have
• 51:05
  smarter
• 51:05
  things
• 51:05
  to
• 51:05
  say
• 51:06
  than
• 51:06
  me.
• 51:06
  And
• 51:06
  I
• 51:06
  don't
• 51:06
  want
• 51:06
  to
• 51:06
  go
• 51:06
  after
• 51:07
  Joe.
• 51:10
  I
• 51:10
  want
• 51:11
  to
• 51:11
  mention,
• 51:11
  since
• 51:12
  just
• 51:12
  on
• 51:12
  the
• 51:12
  base
• 51:12
  of
• 51:12
  what
• 51:13
  you
• 51:13
  were
• 51:13
  talking
• 51:13
  about,
• 51:13
  I
• 51:13
  think
• 51:13
  I
• 51:14
  have
• 51:14
  flip
• 51:14
  flopped.
• 51:14
  I'm
• 51:15
  still
• 51:15
  working
• 51:15
  it
• 51:15
  out,
• 51:15
  mind
• 51:16
  you.
• 51:16
  I
• 51:16
  just
• 51:16
  want
• 51:16
  to,
• 51:16
  like,
• 51:17
  asterisk
• 51:18
  everything
• 51:18
  I
• 51:18
  say.
• 51:19
  I'm
• 51:19
  always
• 51:19
  like,
• 51:19
  I
• 51:19
  might
• 51:19
  be
• 51:19
  changing
• 51:20
  my
• 51:20
  mind,
• 51:20
  but
• 51:20
  I
• 51:20
  think
• 51:20
  I
• 51:20
  flip
• 51:21
  flopped
• 51:21
  a
• 51:21
  little
• 51:21
  bit
• 51:21
  on
• 51:21
  this
• 51:22
  where
• 51:22
  I
• 51:22
  think,
• 51:23
  you
• 51:23
  know,
• 51:23
  I
• 51:23
  did
• 51:23
  grow
• 51:23
  up
• 51:23
  in
• 51:24
  that
• 51:24
  whole,
• 51:24
  this
• 51:24
  stuff's
• 51:25
  literal,
• 51:25
  this
• 51:25
  stuff's
• 51:25
  not.
• 51:26
  And
• 51:26
  the
• 51:26
  parts
• 51:26
  that
• 51:27
  were
• 51:27
  literal
• 51:27
  was,
• 51:27
  God's
• 51:28
  the
• 51:28
  same
• 51:28
  forever
• 51:29
  and
• 51:29
  always.
• 51:29
  Past,
• 51:30
  present,
• 51:30
  future.
• 51:30
  God's
• 51:31
  always
• 51:31
  exactly,
• 51:31
  you
• 51:31
  know,
• 51:32
  whatever.
• 51:32
  And
• 51:32
  then
• 51:33
  the
• 51:33
  stuff,
• 51:33
  he
• 51:33
  changed
• 51:33
  his
• 51:33
  mind.
• 51:33
  That's
• 51:34
  not
• 51:34
  literal.
• 51:35
  And
• 51:35
  I
• 51:35
  think,
• 51:35
  and
• 51:36
  mind
• 51:36
  you,
• 51:36
  I
• 51:36
  don't
• 51:36
  believe
• 51:36
  in
• 51:37
  biblical
• 51:37
  inerrancy
• 51:37
  anymore.
• 51:38
  So
• 51:38
  if
• 51:38
  you
• 51:38
  guys
• 51:38
  want
• 51:38
  to
• 51:38
  just
• 51:38
  trash
• 51:39
  everything
• 51:39
  I
• 51:39
  say,
• 51:39
  that's
• 51:40
  cool.
• 51:40
  And
• 51:40
  I
• 51:41
  also
• 51:41
  want
• 51:41
  to
• 51:41
  say
• 51:41
  on
• 51:41
  our
• 51:42
  network
• 51:42
  and
• 51:42
  even
• 51:42
  on
• 51:42
  systematic
• 51:43
  ecology,
• 51:43
  we
• 51:43
  have
• 51:43
  other
• 51:43
  hosts
• 51:44
  who
• 51:44
  do
• 51:44
  believe
• 51:44
  in
• 51:44
  biblical
• 51:45
  inerrancy,
• 51:45
  who
• 51:45
  do
• 51:45
  follow
• 51:46
  substitutionary
• 51:47
  atonement
• 51:47
  stuff.
• 51:48
  And
• 51:48
  I
• 51:49
  love
• 51:49
  them,
• 51:49
  I
• 51:49
  treasure
• 51:50
  them.
• 51:50
  I
• 51:50
  just
• 51:50
  disagree
• 51:51
  with
• 51:51
  them,
• 51:51
  Right?
• 51:52
  And
• 51:52
  when
• 51:52
  it
• 51:52
  comes
• 51:52
  to
• 51:53
  this,
• 51:54
  it's
• 51:54
  not
• 51:54
  that
• 51:54
  I
• 51:54
  think
• 51:55
  one's
• 51:55
  little
• 51:55
  and
• 51:55
  one's
• 51:55
  not,
• 51:56
  but
• 51:56
  I
• 51:56
  think
• 51:56
  when
• 51:56
  we
• 51:56
  talk
• 51:56
  about
• 51:56
  God
• 51:57
  being
• 51:57
  the
• 51:57
  same
• 51:57
  forever
• 51:57
  and
• 51:58
  always,
• 51:58
  I
• 51:59
  think
• 51:59
  we're
• 51:59
  talking
• 51:59
  about
• 51:59
  the
• 51:59
  characteristics
• 52:00
  of
• 52:00
  God,
• 52:00
  who
• 52:01
  God
• 52:01
  is,
• 52:01
  and
• 52:02
  I
• 52:02
  don't
• 52:02
  think
• 52:02
  that
• 52:02
  changes.
• 52:03
  But
• 52:03
  when
• 52:04
  we
• 52:04
  say,
• 52:04
  like,
• 52:04
  yeah,
• 52:04
  God
• 52:04
  changes
• 52:05
  his
• 52:05
  mind,
• 52:05
  that
• 52:06
  to
• 52:06
  me
• 52:06
  makes
• 52:06
  sense
• 52:07
  because
• 52:07
  I
• 52:07
  don't
• 52:07
  think
• 52:07
  God
• 52:08
  knows
• 52:08
  the
• 52:08
  future
• 52:08
  because
• 52:08
  the
• 52:08
  future
• 52:09
  doesn't
• 52:09
  exist.
• 52:09
  So
• 52:09
  I
• 52:09
  don't
• 52:10
  think
• 52:10
  there
• 52:10
  is
• 52:10
  a
• 52:10
  way
• 52:10
  to
• 52:10
  know
• 52:10
  the
• 52:11
  future.
• 52:11
  And
• 52:11
  that's
• 52:12
  going
• 52:12
  to
• 52:12
  get
• 52:12
  me
• 52:12
  in
• 52:12
  trouble.
• 52:13
  But
• 52:13
  we
• 52:13
  can
• 52:14
  debate
• 52:14
  that
• 52:14
  on
• 52:14
  a
• 52:14
  theology
• 52:15
  podcast
• 52:15
  sometime.
• 52:17
  There's
• 52:17
  a
• 52:17
  lot
• 52:17
  of
• 52:17
  how
• 52:17
  we
• 52:17
  interpret
• 52:18
  the
• 52:18
  Bible
• 52:18
  when
• 52:18
  it
• 52:18
  comes
• 52:19
  to
• 52:19
  prophecies
• 52:19
  are
• 52:19
  just
• 52:20
  funky
• 52:20
  and
• 52:20
  weird
• 52:22
  anyway.
• 52:23
  The.
• 52:24
  The
• 52:24
  stuff
• 52:25
  like
• 52:25
  God
• 52:26
  regretted
• 52:26
  at
• 52:27
  the
• 52:27
  flood,
• 52:27
  he's
• 52:27
  like,
• 52:27
  I
• 52:27
  regretted
• 52:28
  making
• 52:28
  humankind.
• 52:29
  Like,
• 52:29
  I
• 52:29
  feel
• 52:29
  like
• 52:30
  God
• 52:30
  is
• 52:31
  actually
• 52:31
  reacting
• 52:31
  to
• 52:32
  what
• 52:32
  we
• 52:32
  do.
• 52:33
  Now.
• 52:33
  To
• 52:33
  me,
• 52:34
  I
• 52:34
  would
• 52:34
  say
• 52:35
  Jesus
• 52:36
  not
• 52:36
  on
• 52:36
  the
• 52:36
  cross.
• 52:37
  That's
• 52:37
  not
• 52:37
  when
• 52:37
  he
• 52:37
  paid
• 52:37
  the
• 52:37
  debt
• 52:38
  for
• 52:38
  our
• 52:38
  sins,
• 52:38
  he
• 52:39
  died
• 52:39
  and
• 52:39
  he
• 52:39
  came
• 52:40
  back
• 52:40
  because
• 52:40
  he
• 52:40
  defeated
• 52:41
  hell
• 52:41
  in
• 52:41
  the
• 52:41
  grave
• 52:42
  for
• 52:42
  us.
• 52:42
  Like,
• 52:42
  I
• 52:43
  think
• 52:43
  that
• 52:43
  victory
• 52:43
  was
• 52:43
  done
• 52:44
  because
• 52:45
  we
• 52:45
  basically
• 52:45
  enslaved
• 52:46
  ourselves
• 52:46
  through
• 52:47
  our
• 52:47
  choices,
• 52:48
  and
• 52:48
  he
• 52:48
  still
• 52:48
  came
• 52:50
  and
• 52:50
  won.
• 52:50
  And
• 52:51
  I
• 52:51
  think
• 52:51
  he
• 52:51
  did
• 52:51
  that
• 52:51
  for
• 52:52
  us.
• 52:52
  And
• 52:52
  as
• 52:52
  a
• 52:52
  reaction,
• 52:53
  I'm
• 52:53
  celebrating
• 52:53
  that
• 52:54
  victory
• 52:54
  and
• 52:54
  I'm
• 52:54
  trying
• 52:54
  to
• 52:54
  help
• 52:55
  others
• 52:55
  share
• 52:55
  in
• 52:56
  the
• 52:56
  victory
• 52:56
  of
• 52:56
  Christ.
• 52:57
  And
• 52:57
  that's
• 52:58
  pretty
• 52:58
  much
• 52:58
  who
• 52:58
  I
• 52:58
  am
• 52:59
  as
• 52:59
  a
• 52:59
  person
• 53:00
  is
• 53:00
  because
• 53:00
  I'm
• 53:01
  reacting
• 53:01
  to
• 53:01
  what
• 53:02
  Jesus
• 53:02
  did
• 53:02
  there.
• 53:02
  And
• 53:03
  I
• 53:03
  think
• 53:03
  that
• 53:03
  that
• 53:03
  reaction
• 53:04
  to
• 53:04
  one
• 53:04
  another
• 53:04
  between
• 53:05
  God
• 53:05
  and
• 53:06
  man,
• 53:06
  yeah,
• 53:06
  that
• 53:06
  relational
• 53:07
  aspect,
• 53:07
  that
• 53:07
  hyper
• 53:07
  relational
• 53:08
  stuff
• 53:08
  in
• 53:08
  Exodus,
• 53:08
  I
• 53:09
  think
• 53:09
  all
• 53:09
  that
• 53:09
  is
• 53:09
  literal,
• 53:10
  it's
• 53:10
  true.
• 53:11
  But
• 53:11
  I
• 53:11
  also
• 53:11
  think
• 53:12
  God
• 53:12
  doesn't
• 53:12
  change
• 53:12
  his
• 53:12
  characteristics.
• 53:13
  So
• 53:13
  that's
• 53:13
  where
• 53:14
  my
• 53:14
  liberal
• 53:15
  friends
• 53:15
  can
• 53:15
  be
• 53:15
  mad
• 53:15
  that
• 53:16
  I
• 53:16
  still
• 53:16
  like
• 53:16
  immutable.
• 53:17
  That's
• 53:17
  God.
• 53:18
  And
• 53:18
  my
• 53:18
  conservative
• 53:19
  friends
• 53:19
  could
• 53:19
  be
• 53:19
  mad
• 53:19
  that
• 53:19
  I'm
• 53:20
  like,
• 53:20
  he
• 53:20
  changes
• 53:20
  his
• 53:20
  mind
• 53:21
  and
• 53:21
  everyone
• 53:21
  can
• 53:21
  just
• 53:22
  be
• 53:22
  mad.
• 53:22
  And
• 53:22
  then
• 53:22
  Joe
• 53:23
  can
• 53:23
  save
• 53:23
  us
• 53:24
  with
• 53:24
  some
• 53:24
  profound
• 53:25
  wisdom
• 53:25
  after.
• 53:25
  I
• 53:26
  sound
• 53:26
  stupid.
• 53:30
  So
• 53:31
  going
• 53:31
  back
• 53:31
  first
• 53:32
  and
• 53:32
  foremost
• 53:33
  to
• 53:33
  the
• 53:34
  story
• 53:34
  that
• 53:34
  we've
• 53:34
  been
• 53:34
  talking
• 53:35
  about,
• 53:36
  I
• 53:36
  think
• 53:36
  one
• 53:36
  of
• 53:37
  the
• 53:37
  things
• 53:37
  that
• 53:37
  Lewis
• 53:38
  does
• 53:38
  better
• 53:38
  than
• 53:38
  Tolkien
• 53:39
  and
• 53:39
  really
• 53:39
  any
• 53:40
  of
• 53:40
  his
• 53:40
  other
• 53:40
  contemporaries
• 53:41
  is
• 53:42
  he
• 53:42
  play.
• 53:43
  He,
• 53:43
  he's.
• 53:43
  He's
• 53:44
  very
• 53:44
  good
• 53:45
  at
• 53:45
  mythology
• 53:46
  legos
• 53:47
  where
• 53:47
  he
• 53:47
  will
• 53:47
  take
• 53:48
  aspects
• 53:49
  and
• 53:49
  pieces
• 53:50
  from
• 53:50
  different
• 53:50
  belief
• 53:51
  systems
• 53:51
  and
• 53:52
  bring
• 53:52
  them
• 53:52
  together
• 53:53
  and
• 53:53
  use
• 53:54
  them
• 53:54
  for
• 53:54
  an
• 53:54
  overarching
• 53:55
  story.
• 53:57
  I,
• 53:57
  I
• 53:57
  think
• 53:58
  part
• 53:58
  of
• 53:58
  the
• 53:58
  issue
• 53:59
  that
• 53:59
  I
• 53:59
  have
• 53:59
  with
• 54:00
  the
• 54:00
  way
• 54:00
  that
• 54:02
  the,
• 54:02
  the
• 54:03
  way
• 54:03
  that
• 54:04
  Narnia
• 54:05
  and,
• 54:05
  and
• 54:06
  this
• 54:06
  whole
• 54:06
  story
• 54:08
  gets
• 54:08
  used
• 54:09
  as
• 54:09
  a
• 54:09
  stand
• 54:09
  in
• 54:10
  for
• 54:10
  thinking
• 54:11
  about
• 54:11
  PSA
• 54:12
  or
• 54:12
  Ransom
• 54:12
  or
• 54:13
  something
• 54:13
  along
• 54:14
  is
• 54:14
  it's
• 54:15
  closer
• 54:15
  to
• 54:16
  a
• 54:17
  victory
• 54:18
  than
• 54:18
  it
• 54:18
  is
• 54:19
  a,
• 54:22
  than
• 54:22
  it
• 54:23
  is
• 54:23
  a.
• 54:24
  Edmund
• 54:24
  did
• 54:25
  something
• 54:25
  wrong
• 54:26
  expressly.
• 54:27
  And
• 54:27
  because
• 54:28
  of
• 54:28
  that,
• 54:28
  Aslan
• 54:29
  needed
• 54:29
  to,
• 54:29
  needed
• 54:30
  to
• 54:30
  die.
• 54:31
  We
• 54:31
  also
• 54:31
  don't.
• 54:32
  I
• 54:32
  would
• 54:32
  not
• 54:33
  be
• 54:33
  as
• 54:33
  confident
• 54:33
  as
• 54:34
  Brandon
• 54:34
  is
• 54:35
  about,
• 54:35
  about
• 54:36
  simply
• 54:37
  stating
• 54:37
  that
• 54:38
  the
• 54:38
  children's
• 54:38
  actions
• 54:39
  affected
• 54:40
  Aslan.
• 54:42
  I
• 54:42
  don't
• 54:42
  know.
• 54:43
  I
• 54:43
  don't,
• 54:43
  I
• 54:44
  don't
• 54:44
  know.
• 54:45
  As
• 54:45
  I
• 54:46
  see
• 54:46
  it
• 54:46
  as,
• 54:48
  as
• 54:48
  vividly
• 54:50
  though
• 54:50
  I
• 54:50
  though
• 54:51
  I
• 54:51
  see
• 54:51
  where,
• 54:51
  I
• 54:51
  see
• 54:52
  where
• 54:52
  it
• 54:52
  could
• 54:52
  be.
• 54:53
  It's
• 54:54
  not
• 54:54
  one
• 54:54
  that
• 54:54
  I've
• 54:54
  got
• 54:54
  a,
• 54:54
  I've
• 54:55
  got
• 54:55
  a
• 54:55
  solid,
• 54:55
  a
• 54:56
  solid
• 54:56
  opinion
• 54:56
  on
• 54:56
  one
• 54:57
  way
• 54:57
  or
• 54:57
  the
• 54:57
  other.
• 54:58
  And
• 54:59
  I
• 54:59
  think
• 54:59
  when
• 54:59
  you
• 54:59
  look
• 55:00
  at,
• 55:00
  when
• 55:01
  you,
• 55:01
  when
• 55:01
  you
• 55:01
  look
• 55:01
  at
• 55:01
  Narnia,
• 55:02
  it's
• 55:02
  taking
• 55:03
  individual
• 55:04
  puzzle
• 55:04
  pieces
• 55:05
  and
• 55:05
  then
• 55:05
  coupling
• 55:06
  it
• 55:06
  with
• 55:06
  a
• 55:07
  kid
• 55:07
  who
• 55:07
  is
• 55:08
  initially
• 55:08
  tricked.
• 55:09
  He's
• 55:09
  in
• 55:09
  a
• 55:09
  bad,
• 55:10
  bad,
• 55:10
  bad
• 55:11
  head
• 55:11
  positioning,
• 55:12
  bad
• 55:12
  spirit
• 55:12
  positioning
• 55:13
  out
• 55:14
  for
• 55:14
  himself.
• 55:14
  Absolutely.
• 55:15
  That
• 55:16
  part
• 55:16
  of
• 55:16
  it
• 55:16
  you
• 55:16
  cannot
• 55:16
  take
• 55:17
  away
• 55:17
  take
• 55:17
  away
• 55:17
  from
• 55:17
  the
• 55:18
  text.
• 55:18
  But
• 55:18
  it's
• 55:18
  not
• 55:19
  so
• 55:19
  much
• 55:19
  of
• 55:19
  a
• 55:19
  deliberate
• 55:20
  screw
• 55:21
  these
• 55:21
  guys
• 55:22
  as
• 55:22
  it
• 55:22
  is
• 55:23
  a
• 55:23
  trick
• 55:24
  and
• 55:24
  a
• 55:24
  temptation
• 55:25
  to
• 55:25
  go
• 55:26
  off
• 55:26
  that
• 55:26
  way.
• 55:26
  So
• 55:26
  just
• 55:27
  being,
• 55:27
  being
• 55:27
  clear
• 55:28
  about
• 55:28
  the
• 55:28
  actual
• 55:29
  story
• 55:29
  of,
• 55:30
  of
• 55:30
  Narnia,
• 55:31
  I,
• 55:32
  I
• 55:32
  do
• 55:32
  think
• 55:34
  that
• 55:34
  there
• 55:35
  is
• 55:35
  a
• 55:35
  level
• 55:35
  of
• 55:36
  action
• 55:36
  of,
• 55:37
  of
• 55:37
  action
• 55:37
  response
• 55:38
  in
• 55:38
  the
• 55:38
  story.
• 55:38
  So
• 55:39
  this,
• 55:39
  so
• 55:39
  the
• 55:39
  faces
• 55:40
  behind,
• 55:40
  behind
• 55:40
  the
• 55:40
  people,
• 55:41
  right?
• 55:41
  The
• 55:41
  face
• 55:41
  behind
• 55:42
  Aslan
• 55:43
  and
• 55:43
  what
• 55:43
  he
• 55:43
  did
• 55:43
  is
• 55:44
  Edmund
• 55:44
  because
• 55:45
  Edmund
• 55:45
  was
• 55:46
  tricked
• 55:46
  and
• 55:46
  because
• 55:47
  a
• 55:47
  son
• 55:47
  of
• 55:48
  Adam
• 55:48
  found
• 55:49
  themselves
• 55:49
  in
• 55:49
  that
• 55:50
  position
• 55:50
  aslan
• 55:51
  responded
• 55:52
  as
• 55:53
  Aslan
• 55:53
  did,
• 55:54
  what
• 55:54
  he
• 55:54
  knew
• 55:55
  that,
• 55:55
  that
• 55:56
  he
• 55:56
  could
• 55:56
  do.
• 55:57
  People
• 55:58
  who
• 55:58
  want
• 55:59
  desperately
• 56:00
  to
• 56:01
  find
• 56:01
  the
• 56:02
  theology
• 56:03
  in
• 56:03
  that
• 56:04
  moment
• 56:04
  and
• 56:04
  try
• 56:05
  to
• 56:05
  extrapolate
• 56:06
  out
• 56:06
  what
• 56:07
  something
• 56:07
  exactly
• 56:09
  looks
• 56:09
  like
• 56:09
  and
• 56:10
  says,
• 56:10
  then
• 56:10
  I,
• 56:11
  I
• 56:11
  tell
• 56:12
  you
• 56:12
  that
• 56:12
  you
• 56:12
  will
• 56:12
  be
• 56:13
  scratching
• 56:13
  your
• 56:13
  head
• 56:14
  because
• 56:14
  it
• 56:14
  is
• 56:15
  part
• 56:15
  of
• 56:15
  a
• 56:16
  couple
• 56:16
  of
• 56:16
  different
• 56:17
  things.
• 56:17
  It
• 56:18
  is
• 56:18
  not
• 56:18
  one
• 56:19
  clear
• 56:19
  cut
• 56:19
  thing.
• 56:19
  So
• 56:20
  I
• 56:20
  agree
• 56:20
  with
• 56:20
  Josh
• 56:21
  that
• 56:22
  even
• 56:22
  though
• 56:22
  I
• 56:23
  will
• 56:23
  be
• 56:23
  very
• 56:24
  open
• 56:25
  about
• 56:25
  the
• 56:25
  puzzle
• 56:26
  pieces
• 56:26
  that,
• 56:27
  that
• 56:27
  he's,
• 56:28
  that
• 56:28
  Lewis
• 56:28
  is,
• 56:28
  is
• 56:29
  working
• 56:29
  with,
• 56:30
  that
• 56:31
  his
• 56:31
  exact
• 56:32
  goal
• 56:33
  was
• 56:33
  to
• 56:34
  show
• 56:34
  one
• 56:35
  atonement
• 56:35
  theory
• 56:36
  because
• 56:37
  there
• 56:37
  are
• 56:38
  individual
• 56:38
  aspects
• 56:39
  of
• 56:39
  different
• 56:40
  atonement
• 56:41
  theories
• 56:41
  and
• 56:42
  different
• 56:42
  puzzle
• 56:42
  pieces.
• 56:43
  And
• 56:43
  you
• 56:44
  also
• 56:44
  cannot
• 56:45
  lose
• 56:45
  track
• 56:46
  of
• 56:46
  the
• 56:46
  fact
• 56:46
  that
• 56:46
  we
• 56:46
  are
• 56:47
  talking
• 56:47
  about
• 56:47
  paganism
• 56:48
  and
• 56:48
  witchcraft
• 56:49
  as
• 56:49
  well,
• 56:50
  very
• 56:50
  openly.
• 56:51
  And
• 56:51
  that
• 56:52
  influences
• 56:52
  the
• 56:53
  entire,
• 56:53
  the
• 56:53
  entire
• 56:54
  conversation
• 56:54
  too.
• 56:55
  So
• 56:55
  I
• 56:55
  would
• 56:55
  just
• 56:56
  like
• 56:56
  to
• 56:56
  say
• 56:57
  for
• 56:58
  all
• 56:58
  of
• 56:58
  my
• 56:58
  high
• 56:59
  minded
• 56:59
  theology
• 57:00
  brothers
• 57:01
  and
• 57:01
  sisters
• 57:02
  that
• 57:02
  so
• 57:03
  desperately
• 57:03
  want
• 57:03
  to
• 57:03
  comb
• 57:04
  this
• 57:04
  and
• 57:05
  drudge
• 57:05
  the
• 57:05
  depths
• 57:06
  and
• 57:06
  beat
• 57:06
  this
• 57:07
  thing
• 57:07
  until
• 57:07
  it's
• 57:07
  senseless
• 57:08
  to
• 57:08
  make
• 57:08
  whatever
• 57:09
  you
• 57:09
  can
• 57:09
  make
• 57:09
  of
• 57:10
  a
• 57:10
  hyper
• 57:10
  progressive
• 57:11
  or
• 57:11
  a
• 57:11
  hyper
• 57:11
  conservative
• 57:13
  point
• 57:13
  of
• 57:13
  view,
• 57:14
  chill
• 57:15
  out
• 57:15
  bro,
• 57:15
  and
• 57:16
  just
• 57:16
  enjoy
• 57:16
  the
• 57:16
  story.
• 57:17
  That's
• 57:17
  all
• 57:17
  I'm
• 57:17
  saying.
• 57:18
  Just,
• 57:18
  it's
• 57:18
  enjoy
• 57:19
  to
• 57:19
  take
• 57:19
  the,
• 57:19
  taking
• 57:20
  the
• 57:20
  entire
• 57:20
  mythology
• 57:21
  of
• 57:22
  the
• 57:22
  Narniad
• 57:23
  and,
• 57:23
  and
• 57:24
  experience
• 57:25
  something
• 57:25
  that
• 57:26
  has
• 57:26
  a
• 57:26
  lion
• 57:27
  singing
• 57:27
  it.
• 57:27
  Dude,
• 57:28
  just
• 57:28
  shut
• 57:29
  your
• 57:29
  mouth,
• 57:30
  close
• 57:30
  your
• 57:30
  eyes,
• 57:30
  listen
• 57:31
  to
• 57:31
  somebody
• 57:32
  narrate.
• 57:33
  Aslan
• 57:34
  bringing
• 57:34
  the
• 57:35
  world
• 57:35
  into
• 57:36
  existence.
• 57:37
  It'll
• 57:37
  change
• 57:37
  your
• 57:37
  life.
• 57:38
  It
• 57:38
  is
• 57:38
  an
• 57:38
  amazingly
• 57:40
  beautiful
• 57:40
  piece
• 57:41
  of
• 57:41
  art
• 57:41
  in
• 57:42
  my
• 57:42
  opinion.
• 57:42
  In
• 57:42
  my
• 57:43
  opinion
• 57:43
  as
• 57:43
  far
• 57:44
  as
• 57:45
  where
• 57:45
  does
• 57:46
  this
• 57:46
  intersect
• 57:46
  and
• 57:47
  where
• 57:47
  does
• 57:47
  this,
• 57:47
  you
• 57:47
  know,
• 57:48
  is
• 57:48
  this,
• 57:48
  is
• 57:48
  this
• 57:49
  a,
• 57:50
  a
• 57:50
  reflection
• 57:51
  on
• 57:51
  our
• 57:52
  relationship
• 57:52
  with
• 57:53
  Jesus?
• 57:53
  I'll
• 57:54
  go
• 57:54
  Sunday
• 57:54
  school
• 57:55
  first
• 57:55
  and
• 57:55
  then
• 57:56
  I
• 57:56
  will
• 57:56
  take,
• 57:56
  take
• 57:56
  my
• 57:57
  rightful
• 57:57
  position
• 57:58
  as
• 57:58
  being
• 57:59
  the
• 57:59
  heel
• 57:59
  of
• 57:59
  the
• 58:00
  group.
• 58:01
  I.
• 58:02
  Yeah,
• 58:02
  I
• 58:03
  mean
• 58:03
  responsive
• 58:04
  love
• 58:04
  is
• 58:04
  responsive
• 58:05
  love.
• 58:05
  The
• 58:05
  Bible
• 58:06
  says
• 58:06
  it
• 58:06
  and,
• 58:07
  and,
• 58:07
  and
• 58:07
  we
• 58:07
  wouldn't
• 58:08
  know
• 58:08
  love
• 58:08
  if
• 58:08
  we
• 58:09
  did
• 58:09
  not
• 58:09
  experience,
• 58:10
  experience
• 58:10
  love.
• 58:11
  So
• 58:11
  from,
• 58:11
  from
• 58:12
  the
• 58:12
  divine
• 58:13
  to
• 58:13
  the
• 58:13
  human,
• 58:14
  that,
• 58:14
  that
• 58:15
  part
• 58:15
  of
• 58:15
  the
• 58:15
  road
• 58:16
  is
• 58:16
  clean
• 58:16
  and
• 58:17
  open.
• 58:17
  It
• 58:17
  is,
• 58:17
  it
• 58:18
  is,
• 58:18
  it
• 58:18
  is
• 58:18
  a
• 58:18
  beautiful
• 58:19
  picture
• 58:20
  when,
• 58:20
  when
• 58:20
  we
• 58:21
  get
• 58:21
  to
• 58:22
  love
• 58:22
  our
• 58:22
  neighbors.
• 58:23
  And
• 58:23
  I
• 58:23
  do
• 58:23
  mean
• 58:24
  that
• 58:24
  as
• 58:24
  a
• 58:25
  filthy
• 58:25
  liberal
• 58:26
  that,
• 58:26
  that
• 58:27
  your
• 58:27
  neighbor.
• 58:28
  The
• 58:28
  answer
• 58:29
  is
• 58:29
  yes.
• 58:29
  I
• 58:30
  don't
• 58:30
  care
• 58:30
  how
• 58:30
  you
• 58:31
  read
• 58:31
  the
• 58:31
  Good
• 58:31
  Samaritan
• 58:32
  because
• 58:32
  there
• 58:32
  are
• 58:32
  a
• 58:33
  couple
• 58:33
  of
• 58:33
  ways
• 58:33
  of
• 58:33
  reading
• 58:33
  the
• 58:34
  Good
• 58:34
  Samaritan.
• 58:34
  It
• 58:35
  all
• 58:35
  lands
• 58:35
  you
• 58:35
  in
• 58:36
  the
• 58:36
  same
• 58:36
  part
• 58:36
  of
• 58:37
  town.
• 58:37
  And
• 58:38
  so
• 58:38
  like
• 58:38
  caring
• 58:39
  for
• 58:39
  everybody
• 58:40
  and
• 58:40
  anybody
• 58:41
  with
• 58:42
  all
• 58:42
  of
• 58:42
  the
• 58:42
  asterisks.
• 58:43
  I
• 58:43
  cannot
• 58:44
  sit
• 58:44
  here
• 58:44
  and
• 58:44
  pastor
• 58:45
  everybody
• 58:45
  on,
• 58:45
  on
• 58:46
  what
• 58:46
  it
• 58:46
  means
• 58:46
  to
• 58:47
  love
• 58:47
  without
• 58:48
  destroying
• 58:48
  yourself
• 58:49
  right
• 58:49
  here
• 58:49
  and
• 58:49
  now.
• 58:50
  But
• 58:51
  yes,
• 58:51
  that
• 58:52
  part,
• 58:52
  that,
• 58:52
  that
• 58:52
  part
• 58:53
  of
• 58:53
  it
• 58:53
  I
• 58:54
  wholeheartedly
• 58:55
  Agree
• 58:56
  on
• 58:57
  the
• 58:57
  other
• 58:57
  side
• 58:57
  of
• 58:58
  the
• 58:58
  street,
• 58:58
  I'll
• 58:59
  play
• 58:59
  the
• 58:59
  heel
• 59:00
  because
• 59:02
  I
• 59:02
  think
• 59:02
  it's,
• 59:03
  I
• 59:03
  think
• 59:03
  a
• 59:04
  lot
• 59:04
  of
• 59:04
  what
• 59:04
  I
• 59:04
  hear
• 59:05
  in
• 59:05
  general.
• 59:05
  And
• 59:06
  there's,
• 59:06
  there's,
• 59:07
  there's
• 59:07
  multiple
• 59:07
  flavors.
• 59:08
  For
• 59:08
  anybody
• 59:08
  who
• 59:08
  doesn't
• 59:09
  otherwise
• 59:09
  know,
• 59:09
  there's
• 59:09
  multiple
• 59:10
  flavors
• 59:10
  that
• 59:10
  stem
• 59:11
  off
• 59:11
  of
• 59:11
  this
• 59:11
  very
• 59:11
  topic
• 59:12
  right
• 59:12
  here.
• 59:14
  Most,
• 59:15
  if
• 59:15
  not
• 59:15
  all
• 59:15
  of
• 59:16
  what
• 59:16
  I've
• 59:16
  heard
• 59:17
  is
• 59:17
  a
• 59:17
  very
• 59:18
  heartbreaking,
• 59:19
  very,
• 59:19
  very
• 59:20
  sad
• 59:20
  trauma
• 59:21
  response.
• 59:22
  Because
• 59:22
  remember
• 59:22
  what
• 59:22
  I
• 59:23
  said
• 59:23
  before
• 59:23
  from
• 59:24
  jump,
• 59:24
  from
• 59:25
  the
• 59:25
  churches,
• 59:26
  from
• 59:26
  the
• 59:27
  trenches,
• 59:27
  from
• 59:28
  evangelicalism,
• 59:29
  but
• 59:29
  there's
• 59:29
  that
• 59:29
  word
• 59:30
  evangelicalism.
• 59:31
  It's
• 59:32
  a,
• 59:32
  it's
• 59:32
  a.it's
• 59:33
  a
• 59:33
  house
• 59:33
  of
• 59:33
  cards
• 59:34
  on
• 59:35
  words
• 59:36
  and
• 59:36
  concepts
• 59:37
  that
• 59:37
  have
• 59:38
  already
• 59:38
  been
• 59:38
  divorced
• 59:39
  by,
• 59:39
  from
• 59:39
  their
• 59:39
  initial
• 59:40
  meaning,
• 59:40
  from
• 59:41
  what
• 59:41
  the
• 59:41
  test,
• 59:42
  the
• 59:42
  text
• 59:42
  says
• 59:43
  that
• 59:43
  they
• 59:43
  says
• 59:43
  that
• 59:43
  they
• 59:44
  are,
• 59:44
  or
• 59:44
  what
• 59:44
  a
• 59:44
  dictionary
• 59:45
  says
• 59:45
  that
• 59:45
  they
• 59:45
  are.
• 59:46
  And
• 59:46
  they're
• 59:46
  all
• 59:47
  frontloaded
• 59:47
  with
• 59:48
  our
• 59:48
  own
• 59:48
  presuppositions
• 59:49
  and
• 59:49
  our
• 59:50
  own
• 59:50
  readings.
• 59:51
  And
• 59:51
  if
• 59:51
  you
• 59:51
  do
• 59:51
  all
• 59:52
  of
• 59:52
  that,
• 59:52
  that
• 59:52
  then
• 59:53
  you
• 59:53
  can
• 59:53
  very
• 59:53
  easily
• 59:54
  end
• 59:54
  up
• 59:54
  in
• 59:54
  a
• 59:54
  part
• 59:55
  of
• 59:55
  town
• 59:55
  that,
• 59:56
  that
• 59:57
  says,
• 59:57
  oh,
• 59:58
  well,
• 59:58
  well,
• 59:59
  this
• 59:59
  is,
• 59:59
  this
• 1:00:00
  is
• 1:00:00
  literal
• 1:00:00
  and
• 1:00:01
  this
• 1:00:01
  is
• 1:00:01
  figurative.
• 1:00:02
  And
• 1:00:02
  that
• 1:00:02
  doesn't
• 1:00:02
  matter
• 1:00:02
  where
• 1:00:02
  you
• 1:00:03
  land
• 1:00:03
  because
• 1:00:03
  you
• 1:00:03
  change
• 1:00:03
  those
• 1:00:04
  dials,
• 1:00:04
  you.
• 1:00:04
  You
• 1:00:05
  set
• 1:00:05
  that,
• 1:00:05
  that
• 1:00:05
  setting
• 1:00:06
  just
• 1:00:06
  a
• 1:00:06
  little
• 1:00:06
  bit
• 1:00:06
  either
• 1:00:07
  direction
• 1:00:08
  and
• 1:00:08
  you
• 1:00:08
  get
• 1:00:08
  into
• 1:00:09
  an
• 1:00:09
  entirely
• 1:00:09
  different
• 1:00:10
  belief
• 1:00:10
  system.
• 1:00:10
  An
• 1:00:11
  entirely
• 1:00:11
  different
• 1:00:11
  belief
• 1:00:12
  system.
• 1:00:12
  So,
• 1:00:13
  so
• 1:00:13
  I,
• 1:00:13
  I'll
• 1:00:13
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• 1:00:14
  to
• 1:00:14
  the
• 1:00:14
  same,
• 1:00:15
  to
• 1:00:15
  the
• 1:00:15
  same
• 1:00:15
  parts
• 1:00:15
  of
• 1:00:16
  town
• 1:00:16
  that
• 1:00:16
  you
• 1:00:16
  guys
• 1:00:17
  want
• 1:00:17
  to.
• 1:00:17
  Want
• 1:00:17
  to
• 1:00:17
  play
• 1:00:17
  in
• 1:00:18
  and
• 1:00:18
  say,
• 1:00:18
  okay,
• 1:00:19
  then
• 1:00:19
  I
• 1:00:19
  challenge
• 1:00:19
  you
• 1:00:20
  at
• 1:00:20
  the
• 1:00:20
  level
• 1:00:21
  of
• 1:00:21
  how
• 1:00:21
  it
• 1:00:21
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• 1:00:21
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• 1:00:21
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• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:22
  the
• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:24
  you
• 1:00:25
  guys
• 1:00:25
  are
• 1:00:25
  saying.
• 1:00:25
  I
• 1:00:25
  fundamentally
• 1:00:26
  believe
• 1:00:26
  is
• 1:00:27
  a
• 1:00:27
  Western.
• 1:00:27
  Read
• 1:00:28
  into
• 1:00:28
  the
• 1:00:28
  concept.
• 1:00:29
  I
• 1:00:29
  think
• 1:00:29
  it
• 1:00:29
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• 1:00:30
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• 1:00:30
  that
• 1:00:30
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• 1:00:30
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• 1:00:31
  that
• 1:00:31
  we
• 1:00:31
  deeply
• 1:00:32
  want
• 1:00:32
  as
• 1:00:33
  Westerners
• 1:00:33
  and
• 1:00:34
  we
• 1:00:34
  think
• 1:00:34
  of
• 1:00:34
  it
• 1:00:35
  in
• 1:00:35
  a
• 1:00:35
  post
• 1:00:35
  enlightenment
• 1:00:36
  model
• 1:00:37
  and
• 1:00:38
  we
• 1:00:38
  think
• 1:00:38
  of
• 1:00:38
  it
• 1:00:38
  in
• 1:00:39
  terms
• 1:00:39
  that
• 1:00:39
  lead
• 1:00:40
  us
• 1:00:40
  to
• 1:00:40
  this
• 1:00:40
  point
• 1:00:41
  of
• 1:00:41
  saying
• 1:00:42
  this
• 1:00:42
  is
• 1:00:42
  literal,
• 1:00:43
  this
• 1:00:43
  is
• 1:00:43
  figurative,
• 1:00:44
  without
• 1:00:44
  missing,
• 1:00:44
  with,
• 1:00:45
  missing
• 1:00:45
  while.
• 1:00:46
  While.
• 1:00:47
  Or
• 1:00:47
  let
• 1:00:48
  me
• 1:00:48
  say
• 1:00:48
  it
• 1:00:48
  like
• 1:00:48
  this,
• 1:00:49
  without
• 1:00:49
  taking
• 1:00:50
  the
• 1:00:50
  proper
• 1:00:51
  level
• 1:00:51
  of
• 1:00:51
  consideration
• 1:00:52
  to
• 1:00:52
  asking
• 1:00:53
  and
• 1:00:53
  focusing
• 1:00:54
  on
• 1:00:54
  what
• 1:00:54
  the
• 1:00:55
  purpose
• 1:00:55
  of
• 1:00:55
  the
• 1:00:55
  text,
• 1:00:56
  what
• 1:00:56
  is,
• 1:00:57
  not
• 1:00:57
  what
• 1:00:57
  this
• 1:00:57
  individual
• 1:00:58
  thing
• 1:00:58
  is.
• 1:00:59
  I
• 1:00:59
  have
• 1:00:59
  met
• 1:01:00
  beautiful
• 1:01:01
  souls,
• 1:01:01
  wonderful
• 1:01:02
  people
• 1:01:03
  by
• 1:01:03
  every
• 1:01:03
  standard
• 1:01:05
  in
• 1:01:05
  measurement
• 1:01:06
  that
• 1:01:06
  believe
• 1:01:06
  that
• 1:01:07
  God
• 1:01:07
  changes
• 1:01:08
  on
• 1:01:08
  a
• 1:01:08
  whim,
• 1:01:08
  that
• 1:01:08
  God
• 1:01:09
  will
• 1:01:09
  change
• 1:01:09
  his
• 1:01:09
  mind
• 1:01:10
  at
• 1:01:10
  the
• 1:01:10
  drop.
• 1:01:10
  At
• 1:01:10
  the
• 1:01:11
  drop
• 1:01:11
  of
• 1:01:11
  a
• 1:01:11
  dime
• 1:01:11
  with
• 1:01:11
  a
• 1:01:12
  compelling
• 1:01:12
  argument
• 1:01:12
  from
• 1:01:13
  a
• 1:01:13
  human
• 1:01:13
  being.
• 1:01:13
  Okay,
• 1:01:14
  cool,
• 1:01:14
  great.
• 1:01:15
  Just
• 1:01:15
  like
• 1:01:16
  I
• 1:01:16
  have
• 1:01:16
  met
• 1:01:17
  really,
• 1:01:17
  really
• 1:01:18
  terrible
• 1:01:18
  people
• 1:01:19
  who
• 1:01:19
  are
• 1:01:19
  just
• 1:01:19
  so
• 1:01:20
  ignorant
• 1:01:21
  to
• 1:01:21
  other
• 1:01:22
  parts,
• 1:01:22
  parts
• 1:01:23
  of
• 1:01:23
  thought
• 1:01:24
  that
• 1:01:24
  fall
• 1:01:24
  into
• 1:01:25
  that
• 1:01:25
  same
• 1:01:25
  category.
• 1:01:25
  And
• 1:01:26
  the
• 1:01:26
  same
• 1:01:26
  goes
• 1:01:26
  with
• 1:01:26
  the
• 1:01:27
  other
• 1:01:27
  side
• 1:01:27
  of
• 1:01:27
  the
• 1:01:27
  coin
• 1:01:27
  too.
• 1:01:28
  So
• 1:01:28
  we
• 1:01:28
  can
• 1:01:29
  villainize
• 1:01:29
  or
• 1:01:30
  say
• 1:01:30
  this
• 1:01:31
  perspective
• 1:01:31
  is
• 1:01:32
  right
• 1:01:32
  and
• 1:01:32
  that
• 1:01:32
  perspective
• 1:01:33
  is
• 1:01:33
  wrong
• 1:01:33
  and
• 1:01:33
  all
• 1:01:34
  of
• 1:01:34
  that
• 1:01:34
  sort
• 1:01:34
  of
• 1:01:34
  Stuff.
• 1:01:35
  But
• 1:01:35
  ultimately
• 1:01:35
  at
• 1:01:36
  the
• 1:01:36
  end
• 1:01:36
  of
• 1:01:36
  the
• 1:01:36
  day,
• 1:01:37
  I
• 1:01:37
  guess
• 1:01:37
  I
• 1:01:37
  say
• 1:01:38
  even
• 1:01:38
  though
• 1:01:38
  I
• 1:01:38
  am
• 1:01:39
  a
• 1:01:39
  heel
• 1:01:39
  in
• 1:01:39
  saying
• 1:01:40
  no,
• 1:01:40
  no,
• 1:01:41
  I
• 1:01:42
  don't
• 1:01:42
  read,
• 1:01:42
  I
• 1:01:43
  don't
• 1:01:43
  read.
• 1:01:43
  God
• 1:01:43
  changed
• 1:01:44
  his
• 1:01:44
  mind
• 1:01:45
  in
• 1:01:45
  the,
• 1:01:45
  in
• 1:01:45
  the,
• 1:01:46
  in
• 1:01:46
  the
• 1:01:46
  sense.
• 1:01:46
  I
• 1:01:46
  think
• 1:01:46
  it's,
• 1:01:47
  it's
• 1:01:47
  trying
• 1:01:47
  to
• 1:01:48
  convey
• 1:01:48
  a
• 1:01:48
  point,
• 1:01:49
  not,
• 1:01:49
  not
• 1:01:49
  say
• 1:01:50
  something
• 1:01:50
  hyper
• 1:01:51
  specific
• 1:01:51
  topic.
• 1:01:52
  I
• 1:01:52
  still
• 1:01:53
  say
• 1:01:53
  it's
• 1:01:54
  all,
• 1:01:54
  it's
• 1:01:54
  all
• 1:01:55
  open
• 1:01:55
  handed.
• 1:01:56
  Every
• 1:01:56
  single
• 1:01:57
  bit
• 1:01:57
  of
• 1:01:57
  it's
• 1:01:57
  open
• 1:01:57
  handed
• 1:01:58
  in
• 1:01:58
  anybody.
• 1:01:58
  I
• 1:01:59
  don't
• 1:01:59
  care
• 1:01:59
  if
• 1:02:00
  they're
• 1:02:00
  open
• 1:02:00
  and
• 1:02:00
  relational
• 1:02:01
  or,
• 1:02:02
  or
• 1:02:02
  penal,
• 1:02:02
  substitutionary
• 1:02:03
  atonement
• 1:02:04
  or
• 1:02:04
  free
• 1:02:05
  will
• 1:02:05
  or,
• 1:02:06
  or
• 1:02:06
  not
• 1:02:06
  free
• 1:02:07
  will
• 1:02:07
  or
• 1:02:08
  predestination
• 1:02:08
  or
• 1:02:09
  whatever
• 1:02:09
  other
• 1:02:10
  category
• 1:02:11
  hovers
• 1:02:12
  around
• 1:02:12
  this
• 1:02:12
  topic.
• 1:02:13
  If
• 1:02:13
  anybody's
• 1:02:14
  coming
• 1:02:14
  to
• 1:02:14
  you
• 1:02:14
  saying
• 1:02:14
  thus,
• 1:02:15
  say
• 1:02:15
  at
• 1:02:15
  the
• 1:02:15
  Lord,
• 1:02:15
  I
• 1:02:16
  got
• 1:02:16
  it
• 1:02:16
  figured
• 1:02:16
  out.
• 1:02:17
  Then
• 1:02:17
  I
• 1:02:17
  challenge
• 1:02:18
  anybody
• 1:02:18
  come
• 1:02:19
  everyone
• 1:02:19
  and
• 1:02:20
  come
• 1:02:20
  strong
• 1:02:21
  because
• 1:02:21
  you're
• 1:02:21
  talking
• 1:02:22
  about
• 1:02:22
  something
• 1:02:22
  that
• 1:02:24
  cannot
• 1:02:24
  be
• 1:02:25
  fully
• 1:02:26
  convinced
• 1:02:27
  of.
• 1:02:27
  There's
• 1:02:28
  not
• 1:02:28
  enough
• 1:02:28
  information.
• 1:02:29
  It's
• 1:02:30
  not
• 1:02:30
  the
• 1:02:30
  point
• 1:02:30
  of
• 1:02:30
  the
• 1:02:31
  text.
• 1:02:32
  And
• 1:02:32
  so,
• 1:02:33
  so
• 1:02:33
  to
• 1:02:33
  me,
• 1:02:34
  I
• 1:02:34
  cool
• 1:02:35
  as
• 1:02:35
  far
• 1:02:35
  as
• 1:02:36
  like
• 1:02:36
  the
• 1:02:36
  faces
• 1:02:36
  of
• 1:02:37
  and
• 1:02:37
  the
• 1:02:37
  motivations
• 1:02:37
  of
• 1:02:38
  and
• 1:02:38
  all
• 1:02:38
  of
• 1:02:38
  that
• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:39
  of
• 1:02:39
  stuff.
• 1:02:39
  But
• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:40
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• 1:02:40
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• 1:02:41
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• 1:02:41
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• 1:02:41
  theology
• 1:02:42
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• 1:02:42
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• 1:02:42
  the
• 1:02:43
  Old
• 1:02:43
  Testament
• 1:02:43
  deeply,
• 1:02:44
  I
• 1:02:44
  don't
• 1:02:45
  like
• 1:02:45
  those
• 1:02:45
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• 1:02:46
  because
• 1:02:47
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• 1:02:47
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• 1:02:48
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• 1:02:48
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• 1:02:48
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• 1:02:48
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• 1:02:49
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• 1:02:49
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• 1:02:49
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• 1:02:49
  Right.
• 1:02:50
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• 1:02:50
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• 1:02:50
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• 1:02:51
  And
• 1:02:51
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• 1:02:51
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• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:54
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• 1:02:54
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• 1:02:54
  different
• 1:02:54
  arguments.
• 1:02:55
  Right.
• 1:02:55
  Because
• 1:02:56
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• 1:02:56
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• 1:02:56
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• 1:02:56
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• 1:02:57
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• 1:02:58
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• 1:02:58
  and
• 1:02:59
  you
• 1:02:59
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• 1:02:59
  argue
• 1:02:59
  about
• 1:02:59
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• 1:03:00
  Flood
• 1:03:00
  and
• 1:03:00
  you
• 1:03:00
  can
• 1:03:00
  argue
• 1:03:01
  about
• 1:03:01
  Adam
• 1:03:01
  and
• 1:03:01
  Eve
• 1:03:02
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• 1:03:02
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• 1:03:02
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• 1:03:02
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• 1:03:03
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• 1:03:03
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• 1:03:04
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• 1:03:04
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• 1:03:05
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• 1:03:06
  and
• 1:03:06
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• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:07
  real
• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:08
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• 1:03:08
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• 1:03:08
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• 1:03:08
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• 1:03:09
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• 1:03:09
  that
• 1:03:09
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• 1:03:10
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• 1:03:11
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• 1:03:11
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• 1:03:12
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• 1:03:12
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• 1:03:12
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• 1:03:13
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• 1:03:13
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• 1:03:13
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• 1:03:13
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• 1:03:13
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• 1:03:13
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• 1:03:14
  Yeah.
• 1:03:14
  And
• 1:03:15
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• 1:03:15
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• 1:03:15
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• 1:03:15
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• 1:03:15
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• 1:03:16
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• 1:03:16
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• 1:03:17
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• 1:03:17
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• 1:03:17
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• 1:03:17
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• 1:03:17
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• 1:03:18
  You
• 1:03:18
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• 1:03:18
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• 1:03:18
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• 1:03:18
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• 1:03:18
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• 1:03:18
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• 1:03:19
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• 1:03:19
  the
• 1:03:19
  Old
• 1:03:19
  Testament
• 1:03:20
  background
• 1:03:20
  and
• 1:03:20
  stuff
• 1:03:20
  and
• 1:03:20
  I'm
• 1:03:21
  like
• 1:03:21
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• 1:03:21
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• 1:03:21
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• 1:03:21
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• 1:03:21
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• 1:03:21
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• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:23
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• 1:03:23
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• 1:03:23
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• 1:03:23
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• 1:03:23
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• 1:03:24
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• 1:03:24
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• 1:03:24
  And
• 1:03:25
  that's
• 1:03:25
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• 1:03:25
  you
• 1:03:26
  go
• 1:03:26
  to
• 1:03:26
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• 1:03:26
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• 1:03:27
  you
• 1:03:27
  get
• 1:03:27
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• 1:03:27
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• 1:03:28
  resources,
• 1:03:28
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• 1:03:29
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• 1:03:29
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• 1:03:29
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• 1:03:30
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• 1:03:30
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• 1:03:30
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• 1:03:30
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• 1:03:30
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• 1:03:31
  You
• 1:03:31
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• 1:03:32
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• 1:03:32
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• 1:03:32
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• 1:03:32
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• 1:03:33
  Ord,
• 1:03:33
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• 1:03:33
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• 1:03:33
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• 1:03:33
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• 1:03:33
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:35
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• 1:03:35
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• 1:03:35
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• 1:03:36
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• 1:03:36
  Love
• 1:03:36
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• 1:03:36
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• 1:03:36
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• 1:03:36
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• 1:03:37
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• 1:03:37
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• 1:03:37
  And
• 1:03:37
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• 1:03:37
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• 1:03:37
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• 1:03:37
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• 1:03:38
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• 1:03:38
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• 1:03:38
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• 1:03:38
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• 1:03:38
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• 1:03:39
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• 1:03:40
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• 1:03:40
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• 1:03:40
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• 1:03:40
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• 1:03:40
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• 1:03:41
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• 1:03:41
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• 1:03:41
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• 1:03:41
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• 1:03:41
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• 1:03:41
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• 1:03:42
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• 1:03:42
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• 1:03:42
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• 1:03:43
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• 1:03:44
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• 1:03:44
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• 1:03:44
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• 1:03:44
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• 1:03:44
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• 1:03:45
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• 1:03:45
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• 1:03:45
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• 1:03:46
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• 1:03:46
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• 1:03:46
  There's
• 1:03:46
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• 1:03:46
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• 1:03:47
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• 1:03:47
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• 1:03:48
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• 1:03:48
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• 1:03:48
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• 1:03:49
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• 1:03:49
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• 1:03:49
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• 1:03:50
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• 1:03:50
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• 1:03:50
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• 1:03:50
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• 1:03:51
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• 1:03:52
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• 1:03:52
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• 1:03:52
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• 1:03:52
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• 1:03:53
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• 1:03:53
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• 1:03:53
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• 1:03:54
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• 1:03:54
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• 1:03:54
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• 1:03:54
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• 1:03:54
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• 1:03:55
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• 1:03:55
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• 1:03:56
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• 1:03:56
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• 1:03:56
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• 1:03:56
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• 1:03:56
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• 1:03:57
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• 1:03:57
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• 1:03:58
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• 1:03:58
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• 1:03:59
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• 1:03:59
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• 1:03:59
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• 1:03:59
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• 1:03:59
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• 1:03:59
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• 1:04:00
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• 1:04:00
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• 1:04:00
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• 1:04:00
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• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:03
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• 1:04:03
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• 1:04:03
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• 1:04:03
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• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:05
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• 1:04:05
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• 1:04:06
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• 1:04:06
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• 1:04:06
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• 1:04:07
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• 1:04:07
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• 1:04:07
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• 1:04:07
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• 1:04:08
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• 1:04:08
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• 1:04:08
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• 1:04:09
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• 1:04:09
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• 1:04:09
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• 1:04:09
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• 1:04:10
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• 1:04:10
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• 1:04:10
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• 1:04:10
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• 1:04:11
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• 1:04:12
  And
• 1:04:12
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• 1:04:12
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• 1:04:13
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• 1:04:13
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• 1:04:13
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• 1:04:13
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• 1:04:13
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• 1:04:14
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• 1:04:14
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• 1:04:14
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• 1:04:15
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• 1:04:15
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• 1:04:16
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• 1:04:16
  quickly
• 1:04:17
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• 1:04:17
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• 1:04:17
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• 1:04:18
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• 1:04:18
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• 1:04:19
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• 1:04:19
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• 1:04:20
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• 1:04:20
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• 1:04:20
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• 1:04:21
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• 1:04:21
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• 1:04:21
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• 1:04:21
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• 1:04:21
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• 1:04:21
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• 1:04:22
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• 1:04:22
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• 1:04:22
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• 1:04:22
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• 1:04:23
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• 1:04:23
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• 1:04:23
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• 1:04:23
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• 1:04:24
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• 1:04:24
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• 1:04:24
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• 1:04:24
  Even
• 1:04:24
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• 1:04:25
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• 1:04:25
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• 1:04:25
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• 1:04:25
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• 1:04:25
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• 1:04:26
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• 1:04:26
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• 1:04:26
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• 1:04:26
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• 1:04:26
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• 1:04:26
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• 1:04:26
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• 1:04:27
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• 1:04:27
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• 1:04:27
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• 1:04:27
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• 1:04:28
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• 1:04:28
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• 1:04:28
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• 1:04:28
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• 1:04:29
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• 1:04:29
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• 1:04:29
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• 1:04:29
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• 1:04:29
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• 1:04:29
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• 1:04:30
  to
• 1:04:31
  exactly
• 1:04:31
  this,
• 1:04:32
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• 1:04:32
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• 1:04:33
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• 1:04:33
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• 1:04:33
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• 1:04:34
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• 1:04:34
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• 1:04:34
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• 1:04:34
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• 1:04:34
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• 1:04:35
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• 1:04:35
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• 1:04:35
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• 1:04:36
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• 1:04:36
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• 1:04:36
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• 1:04:37
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• 1:04:37
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• 1:04:37
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• 1:04:37
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• 1:04:37
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• 1:04:38
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• 1:04:38
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• 1:04:38
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• 1:04:39
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• 1:04:39
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• 1:04:40
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• 1:04:40
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• 1:04:40
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• 1:04:41
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• 1:04:41
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• 1:04:42
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• 1:04:42
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• 1:04:45
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• 1:04:46
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• 1:04:46
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• 1:04:46
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• 1:04:46
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• 1:04:47
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• 1:04:47
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• 1:04:47
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• 1:04:47
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• 1:04:48
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• 1:04:48
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• 1:04:48
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• 1:04:49
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• 1:04:49
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• 1:04:51
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• 1:04:52
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• 1:04:53
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• 1:04:53
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• 1:04:54
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• 1:04:54
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• 1:04:54
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• 1:04:55
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• 1:04:55
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• 1:04:55
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• 1:04:56
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• 1:04:56
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• 1:04:57
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• 1:04:57
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• 1:04:57
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• 1:04:58
  We've
• 1:04:58
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• 1:04:58
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• 1:04:59
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• 1:04:59
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• 1:04:59
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• 1:04:59
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• 1:05:00
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• 1:05:01
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• 1:05:01
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• 1:05:01
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• 1:05:01
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• 1:05:02
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• 1:05:02
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• 1:05:02
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• 1:05:02
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• 1:05:02
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• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:04
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• 1:05:04
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• 1:05:04
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• 1:05:04
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• 1:05:05
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• 1:05:05
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• 1:05:05
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• 1:05:05
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• 1:05:05
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• 1:05:05
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• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:07
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• 1:05:07
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:09
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• 1:05:09
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• 1:05:09
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• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:11
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• 1:05:11
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• 1:05:11
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• 1:05:11
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• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:13
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• 1:05:13
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• 1:05:13
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• 1:05:13
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• 1:05:14
  It's
• 1:05:15
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• 1:05:15
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• 1:05:15
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• 1:05:15
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• 1:05:16
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• 1:05:16
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• 1:05:16
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• 1:05:16
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• 1:05:17
  First
• 1:05:17
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• 1:05:18
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• 1:05:18
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• 1:05:18
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• 1:05:18
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• 1:05:18
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• 1:05:18
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• 1:05:19
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• 1:05:19
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• 1:05:19
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• 1:05:19
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• 1:05:19
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• 1:05:20
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• 1:05:20
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• 1:05:20
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• 1:05:20
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• 1:05:20
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• 1:05:21
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• 1:05:21
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• 1:05:21
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• 1:05:21
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• 1:05:21
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• 1:05:21
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• 1:05:22
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• 1:05:22
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• 1:05:23
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• 1:05:23
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• 1:05:23
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• 1:05:23
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• 1:05:24
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• 1:05:24
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• 1:05:24
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• 1:05:25
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• 1:05:25
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• 1:05:25
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• 1:05:25
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• 1:05:26
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• 1:05:26
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• 1:05:26
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• 1:05:26
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• 1:05:27
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• 1:05:27
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• 1:05:27
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• 1:05:27
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• 1:05:27
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• 1:05:28
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• 1:05:28
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• 1:05:28
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• 1:05:29
  Anyway,
• 1:05:31
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• 1:05:32
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• 1:05:32
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• 1:05:32
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• 1:05:33
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• 1:05:33
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• 1:05:33
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• 1:05:34
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• 1:05:34
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• 1:05:34
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• 1:05:35
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• 1:05:36
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• 1:05:36
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• 1:05:36
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• 1:05:36
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• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:38
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• 1:05:38
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• 1:05:38
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• 1:05:38
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• 1:05:39
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• 1:05:39
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• 1:05:39
  and
• 1:05:39
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• 1:05:40
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• 1:05:40
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• 1:05:40
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• 1:05:40
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• 1:05:41
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• 1:05:41
  full.
• 1:05:42
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• 1:05:42
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• 1:05:42
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• 1:05:43
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• 1:05:43
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• 1:05:43
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• 1:05:44
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• 1:05:44
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• 1:05:44
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• 1:05:44
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• 1:05:45
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• 1:05:45
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• 1:05:45
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• 1:05:47
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• 1:05:47
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• 1:05:47
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• 1:05:47
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• 1:05:48
  Purely.
• 1:05:48
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• 1:05:49
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• 1:05:49
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• 1:05:49
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• 1:05:50
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• 1:05:50
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• 1:05:50
  dynamic,
• 1:05:51
  and
• 1:05:51
  I
• 1:05:51
  think
• 1:05:51
  the
• 1:05:51
  Bible
• 1:05:51
  would
• 1:05:52
  back
• 1:05:52
  me
• 1:05:52
  on
• 1:05:52
  that
• 1:05:52
  one.
• 1:05:53
  I
• 1:05:54
  think
• 1:05:54
  when
• 1:05:54
  you,
• 1:05:55
  when,
• 1:05:55
  when
• 1:05:55
  you
• 1:05:55
  look
• 1:05:56
  at
• 1:05:56
  what
• 1:05:57
  our
• 1:05:57
  role
• 1:05:58
  is
• 1:05:58
  as,
• 1:05:59
  as,
• 1:05:59
  as
• 1:05:59
  followers
• 1:06:00
  of
• 1:06:00
  Christ,
• 1:06:00
  if
• 1:06:00
  you
• 1:06:00
  claim
• 1:06:01
  the
• 1:06:01
  name
• 1:06:01
  of
• 1:06:01
  Christ
• 1:06:02
  and
• 1:06:02
  you're
• 1:06:03
  trying
• 1:06:03
  to
• 1:06:03
  figure
• 1:06:03
  out
• 1:06:04
  this
• 1:06:04
  whole
• 1:06:04
  theology
• 1:06:05
  thing
• 1:06:05
  and
• 1:06:05
  all
• 1:06:06
  of
• 1:06:06
  that
• 1:06:06
  sort
• 1:06:06
  of
• 1:06:06
  stuff.
• 1:06:07
  Then,
• 1:06:07
  then
• 1:06:08
  at
• 1:06:08
  the
• 1:06:08
  bare
• 1:06:08
  minimum,
• 1:06:09
  you
• 1:06:09
  know,
• 1:06:09
  seek
• 1:06:10
  wise
• 1:06:10
  counsel,
• 1:06:10
  right?
• 1:06:11
  Seek,
• 1:06:11
  seek,
• 1:06:11
  seek
• 1:06:12
  wise
• 1:06:12
  people,
• 1:06:12
  people
• 1:06:12
  around
• 1:06:13
  you.
• 1:06:13
  That's
• 1:06:13
  all.
• 1:06:13
  That's
• 1:06:14
  wonderful
• 1:06:14
  thing.
• 1:06:15
  That
• 1:06:15
  is
• 1:06:15
  a,
• 1:06:15
  that
• 1:06:15
  is
• 1:06:15
  a
• 1:06:16
  holy
• 1:06:16
  thing
• 1:06:16
  to,
• 1:06:16
  to
• 1:06:16
  do.
• 1:06:17
  But
• 1:06:17
  do
• 1:06:18
  the
• 1:06:18
  work
• 1:06:19
  for
• 1:06:19
  yourself,
• 1:06:20
  know
• 1:06:21
  what
• 1:06:21
  you
• 1:06:21
  believe
• 1:06:21
  and
• 1:06:22
  why
• 1:06:22
  you
• 1:06:22
  believe
• 1:06:23
  it
• 1:06:23
  because
• 1:06:23
  you
• 1:06:23
  should
• 1:06:24
  be
• 1:06:24
  able
• 1:06:24
  to
• 1:06:25
  disagree
• 1:06:25
  well
• 1:06:26
  with
• 1:06:26
  other
• 1:06:26
  people.
• 1:06:27
  Now
• 1:06:27
  if
• 1:06:27
  you
• 1:06:27
  got
• 1:06:28
  somebody
• 1:06:28
  coming
• 1:06:28
  at
• 1:06:28
  you
• 1:06:29
  saying
• 1:06:29
  that
• 1:06:29
  Jesus
• 1:06:30
  is
• 1:06:30
  a
• 1:06:30
  giant
• 1:06:30
  flying
• 1:06:30
  spaghetti
• 1:06:31
  monster
• 1:06:31
  with
• 1:06:31
  pencils
• 1:06:32
  for
• 1:06:32
  arms,
• 1:06:32
  and
• 1:06:33
  I'm
• 1:06:33
  saying
• 1:06:33
  that
• 1:06:33
  as
• 1:06:33
  a
• 1:06:33
  bit
• 1:06:34
  because
• 1:06:34
  it's
• 1:06:34
  not
• 1:06:34
  always
• 1:06:34
  that,
• 1:06:35
  that,
• 1:06:35
  that,
• 1:06:36
  you
• 1:06:36
  know,
• 1:06:37
  hyper
• 1:06:37
  obvious
• 1:06:38
  and
• 1:06:38
  all
• 1:06:38
  that
• 1:06:38
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• 1:06:38
  of
• 1:06:39
  stuff.
• 1:06:39
  If
• 1:06:39
  it's
• 1:06:39
  heresy,
• 1:06:40
  it's
• 1:06:40
  heresy.
• 1:06:41
  But
• 1:06:41
  like
• 1:06:41
  also
• 1:06:41
  at
• 1:06:42
  the
• 1:06:42
  same
• 1:06:42
  time
• 1:06:42
  we
• 1:06:43
  gotta
• 1:06:43
  chill
• 1:06:43
  on
• 1:06:44
  the
• 1:06:44
  idea
• 1:06:44
  of
• 1:06:45
  what
• 1:06:45
  is
• 1:06:45
  and
• 1:06:46
  isn't
• 1:06:46
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• 1:06:47
  because
• 1:06:47
  we've
• 1:06:47
  come
• 1:06:47
  to
• 1:06:48
  where
• 1:06:49
  you
• 1:06:49
  want
• 1:06:49
  to
• 1:06:49
  stop
• 1:06:49
  a
• 1:06:49
  conversation,
• 1:06:50
  you
• 1:06:50
  want
• 1:06:50
  to
• 1:06:50
  stop
• 1:06:50
  a
• 1:06:51
  theological
• 1:06:51
  discourse,
• 1:06:52
  you
• 1:06:52
  just
• 1:06:52
  call
• 1:06:52
  somebody
• 1:06:53
  a
• 1:06:53
  heretic
• 1:06:53
  and
• 1:06:54
  storm
• 1:06:54
  away.
• 1:06:55
  Right,
• 1:06:55
  but,
• 1:06:56
  but
• 1:06:56
  I,
• 1:06:56
  but
• 1:06:57
  listen
• 1:06:57
  to
• 1:06:57
  what
• 1:06:57
  Josh
• 1:06:58
  is
• 1:06:58
  saying.
• 1:06:58
  Josh
• 1:06:58
  is
• 1:06:59
  saying
• 1:06:59
  here.
• 1:07:00
  Put,
• 1:07:00
  put,
• 1:07:00
  put
• 1:07:01
  in
• 1:07:01
  the
• 1:07:01
  work
• 1:07:01
  to
• 1:07:02
  discern
• 1:07:02
  these
• 1:07:02
  things
• 1:07:03
  for
• 1:07:03
  yourself
• 1:07:04
  and
• 1:07:04
  take
• 1:07:05
  ownership
• 1:07:06
  of
• 1:07:06
  your
• 1:07:07
  beliefs.
• 1:07:07
  Don't
• 1:07:08
  take
• 1:07:08
  it
• 1:07:08
  from
• 1:07:08
  me,
• 1:07:09
  don't
• 1:07:09
  take
• 1:07:09
  it
• 1:07:09
  from
• 1:07:09
  your
• 1:07:09
  pastor,
• 1:07:10
  don't
• 1:07:10
  take
• 1:07:11
  it
• 1:07:11
  from
• 1:07:11
  your,
• 1:07:11
  your
• 1:07:12
  favorite,
• 1:07:12
  the
• 1:07:12
  theologian
• 1:07:13
  or
• 1:07:13
  your
• 1:07:13
  favorite
• 1:07:14
  podcaster.
• 1:07:15
  Take
• 1:07:15
  it
• 1:07:15
  for
• 1:07:16
  yourself
• 1:07:17
  because
• 1:07:17
  there
• 1:07:17
  are
• 1:07:17
  so
• 1:07:17
  many
• 1:07:18
  tools
• 1:07:18
  to
• 1:07:18
  be
• 1:07:18
  able
• 1:07:18
  to
• 1:07:19
  learn
• 1:07:19
  on
• 1:07:19
  your
• 1:07:19
  own,
• 1:07:20
  freely
• 1:07:21
  available
• 1:07:21
  to
• 1:07:22
  you.
• 1:07:22
  Yeah,
• 1:07:22
  yeah,
• 1:07:23
  try
• 1:07:23
  really
• 1:07:24
  hard
• 1:07:24
  not
• 1:07:24
  to
• 1:07:24
  chase
• 1:07:24
  the
• 1:07:24
  rabbit
• 1:07:25
  because
• 1:07:25
  we're
• 1:07:25
  already
• 1:07:25
  pretty
• 1:07:26
  well
• 1:07:26
  over
• 1:07:26
  time.
• 1:07:27
  Just
• 1:07:27
  say
• 1:07:27
  I
• 1:07:27
  do
• 1:07:27
  disagree
• 1:07:28
  about
• 1:07:28
  the
• 1:07:28
  systematic
• 1:07:29
  theology
• 1:07:29
  stuff.
• 1:07:29
  I
• 1:07:30
  think
• 1:07:30
  you
• 1:07:30
  should
• 1:07:30
  read
• 1:07:30
  as
• 1:07:30
  many
• 1:07:31
  of
• 1:07:31
  them.
• 1:07:32
  Our
• 1:07:32
  network
• 1:07:32
  ground
• 1:07:32
  is
• 1:07:32
  all
• 1:07:33
  podcast
• 1:07:33
  network
• 1:07:33
  for
• 1:07:33
  those
• 1:07:33
  wondering.
• 1:07:34
  We're
• 1:07:34
  all
• 1:07:34
  about
• 1:07:34
  honestly
• 1:07:35
  engaging
• 1:07:35
  and
• 1:07:36
  I
• 1:07:36
  don't
• 1:07:36
  think
• 1:07:37
  Joe
• 1:07:37
  would
• 1:07:37
  disagree
• 1:07:37
  with
• 1:07:37
  this
• 1:07:37
  part.
• 1:07:38
  I
• 1:07:38
  think
• 1:07:38
  you
• 1:07:39
  should
• 1:07:40
  find
• 1:07:40
  as
• 1:07:40
  many
• 1:07:40
  different
• 1:07:40
  perspectives
• 1:07:41
  as
• 1:07:41
  you
• 1:07:41
  can
• 1:07:41
  can
• 1:07:42
  learn
• 1:07:42
  what
• 1:07:42
  they
• 1:07:42
  are
• 1:07:43
  and
• 1:07:43
  honestly
• 1:07:43
  engage
• 1:07:43
  with
• 1:07:44
  them.
• 1:07:44
  Whether
• 1:07:44
  you
• 1:07:44
  agree
• 1:07:44
  or
• 1:07:45
  not.
• 1:07:45
  You
• 1:07:45
  should
• 1:07:46
  at
• 1:07:46
  least
• 1:07:46
  be
• 1:07:47
  able
• 1:07:47
  to
• 1:07:47
  engage
• 1:07:47
  with
• 1:07:48
  other
• 1:07:48
  perspectives.
• 1:07:48
  That's
• 1:07:48
  what
• 1:07:49
  we're
• 1:07:49
  trying
• 1:07:49
  to
• 1:07:49
  do
• 1:07:49
  here
• 1:07:50
  and
• 1:07:50
  hopefully
• 1:07:51
  we
• 1:07:51
  can
• 1:07:51
  continue
• 1:07:51
  to
• 1:07:52
  do.
• 1:07:52
  And
• 1:07:53
  yeah,
• 1:07:54
  we're
• 1:07:54
  going
• 1:07:54
  to
• 1:07:55
  go
• 1:07:55
  ahead
• 1:07:55
  and
• 1:07:55
  wrap
• 1:07:55
  this
• 1:07:55
  up,
• 1:07:55
  but
• 1:07:55
  I
• 1:07:55
  want
• 1:07:56
  to
• 1:07:56
  urge
• 1:07:56
  everyone
• 1:07:57
  just
• 1:07:57
  to
• 1:07:57
  think
• 1:07:57
  like
• 1:07:57
  Paul
• 1:07:58
  said
• 1:07:58
  in
• 1:07:59
  some
• 1:07:59
  letter.
• 1:08:00
  I'm
• 1:08:00
  not
• 1:08:00
  the
• 1:08:00
  pastor
• 1:08:00
  here.
• 1:08:01
  Paul
• 1:08:02
  said
• 1:08:02
  in
• 1:08:02
  some
• 1:08:02
  letter
• 1:08:03
  he
• 1:08:03
  forgives
• 1:08:04
  because
• 1:08:04
  he's
• 1:08:04
  been
• 1:08:04
  forgiven
• 1:08:05
  so
• 1:08:05
  much.
• 1:08:06
  And
• 1:08:06
  I
• 1:08:06
  think
• 1:08:06
  that's
• 1:08:06
  what
• 1:08:07
  we
• 1:08:07
  see
• 1:08:07
  in
• 1:08:07
  the
• 1:08:07
  story
• 1:08:07
  of
• 1:08:07
  Edmund
• 1:08:08
  and
• 1:08:08
  that's
• 1:08:08
  what
• 1:08:08
  I
• 1:08:08
  feel
• 1:08:09
  in
• 1:08:09
  my
• 1:08:09
  life
• 1:08:09
  and
• 1:08:10
  hope
• 1:08:10
  you
• 1:08:10
  guys
• 1:08:11
  also
• 1:08:11
  feel
• 1:08:11
  the
• 1:08:11
  same.
• 1:08:12
  If
• 1:08:12
  you're
• 1:08:12
  out
• 1:08:12
  there
• 1:08:12
  listening
• 1:08:13
  and
• 1:08:13
  you
• 1:08:14
  haven't
• 1:08:14
  accepted
• 1:08:15
  Christ
• 1:08:15
  into
• 1:08:15
  your
• 1:08:16
  heart,
• 1:08:16
  all
• 1:08:16
  that
• 1:08:16
  stuff,
• 1:08:17
  go
• 1:08:17
  listen
• 1:08:17
  to
• 1:08:17
  Will's
• 1:08:18
  homily
• 1:08:18
  that's
• 1:08:18
  on
• 1:08:18
  the
• 1:08:19
  network
• 1:08:19
  and
• 1:08:20
  love
• 1:08:20
  Jesus
• 1:08:21
  and
• 1:08:22
  know
• 1:08:22
  that
• 1:08:23
  you
• 1:08:23
  are
• 1:08:23
  loved.
• 1:08:24
  You
• 1:08:24
  have
• 1:08:24
  been
• 1:08:24
  forgiven
• 1:08:24
  much.
• 1:08:25
  And
• 1:08:25
  it's
• 1:08:26
  now
• 1:08:26
  our
• 1:08:26
  turn
• 1:08:26
  to
• 1:08:26
  go
• 1:08:26
  out
• 1:08:27
  and
• 1:08:27
  forgive
• 1:08:27
  others
• 1:08:27
  and
• 1:08:28
  show
• 1:08:28
  compassion
• 1:08:29
  and
• 1:08:29
  be
• 1:08:29
  like
• 1:08:29
  Edmund
• 1:08:30
  the
• 1:08:30
  Eustace
• 1:08:30
  and
• 1:08:30
  all
• 1:08:30
  that
• 1:08:31
  stuff.
• 1:08:31
  So
• 1:08:31
  we're
• 1:08:31
  gonna
• 1:08:32
  wrap
• 1:08:32
  this
• 1:08:32
  up
• 1:08:32
  now.
• 1:08:33
  All
• 1:08:34
  the
• 1:08:34
  preaching
• 1:08:34
  sermons
• 1:08:35
  aside,
• 1:08:35
  you
• 1:08:35
  know,
• 1:08:36
  it's
• 1:08:36
  Easter.
• 1:08:36
  We're
• 1:08:36
  alive.
• 1:08:37
  Allowed.
• 1:08:37
  Allowed
• 1:08:38
  a
• 1:08:38
  few
• 1:08:38
  extra
• 1:08:38
  of
• 1:08:38
  those.
• 1:08:41
  Without
• 1:08:42
  further
• 1:08:42
  ado,
• 1:08:42
  I
• 1:08:42
  do
• 1:08:43
  have
• 1:08:43
  to
• 1:08:43
  get
• 1:08:43
  some
• 1:08:43
  recommendations
• 1:08:44
  going,
• 1:08:44
  and
• 1:08:45
  I'm
• 1:08:45
  gonna
• 1:08:45
  start
• 1:08:45
  because
• 1:08:46
  you
• 1:08:46
  guys
• 1:08:46
  trigger
• 1:08:46
  recommendations
• 1:08:47
  for
• 1:08:47
  me.
• 1:08:48
  I'm
• 1:08:48
  gonna
• 1:08:48
  recommend
• 1:08:49
  two
• 1:08:49
  songs,
• 1:08:50
  weirdly
• 1:08:50
  enough,
• 1:08:51
  Christian
• 1:08:52
  songs.
• 1:08:52
  Guys,
• 1:08:53
  this
• 1:08:53
  is
• 1:08:53
  weird
• 1:08:53
  for
• 1:08:53
  me.
• 1:08:53
  I
• 1:08:54
  don't
• 1:08:54
  recommend
• 1:08:54
  Christian
• 1:08:55
  media
• 1:08:55
  usually,
• 1:08:56
  but
• 1:08:58
  there's
• 1:08:59
  a
• 1:08:59
  song,
• 1:08:59
  Deep
• 1:08:59
  Magic
• 1:09:00
  by
• 1:09:00
  John
• 1:09:00
  Mark
• 1:09:00
  McMillan.
• 1:09:01
  You
• 1:09:01
  guys
• 1:09:01
  use
• 1:09:01
  the
• 1:09:02
  phrase
• 1:09:02
  a
• 1:09:02
  couple
• 1:09:02
  times
• 1:09:02
  that's
• 1:09:03
  used
• 1:09:03
  in
• 1:09:03
  Narnia.
• 1:09:04
  And
• 1:09:05
  yeah,
• 1:09:05
  this
• 1:09:06
  song's
• 1:09:06
  incredible.
• 1:09:06
  I
• 1:09:07
  like
• 1:09:07
  John
• 1:09:07
  Mark
• 1:09:07
  Milan,
• 1:09:08
  and
• 1:09:08
  he
• 1:09:08
  does
• 1:09:09
  a
• 1:09:09
  really
• 1:09:09
  good
• 1:09:09
  job
• 1:09:09
  of
• 1:09:09
  kind
• 1:09:09
  of
• 1:09:09
  showing,
• 1:09:10
  like,
• 1:09:10
  this
• 1:09:10
  thing
• 1:09:10
  that
• 1:09:11
  we
• 1:09:11
  call
• 1:09:11
  our
• 1:09:11
  faith
• 1:09:11
  can
• 1:09:12
  be
• 1:09:12
  mystical.
• 1:09:12
  Magic
• 1:09:13
  isn't
• 1:09:13
  necessarily
• 1:09:13
  a
• 1:09:13
  bad,
• 1:09:14
  scary
• 1:09:14
  thing.
• 1:09:14
  Sometimes
• 1:09:15
  it's
• 1:09:15
  okay
• 1:09:15
  to
• 1:09:15
  just
• 1:09:15
  embrace
• 1:09:16
  the
• 1:09:16
  magic
• 1:09:17
  of
• 1:09:17
  what
• 1:09:17
  Jesus
• 1:09:17
  has
• 1:09:18
  done
• 1:09:18
  for
• 1:09:18
  us.
• 1:09:18
  So
• 1:09:18
  I
• 1:09:18
  think
• 1:09:18
  that's
• 1:09:19
  an
• 1:09:19
  incredible
• 1:09:19
  song.
• 1:09:20
  Also
• 1:09:20
  one
• 1:09:21
  of
• 1:09:21
  my
• 1:09:21
  favorite
• 1:09:21
  songs
• 1:09:22
  to
• 1:09:22
  listen
• 1:09:22
  to
• 1:09:22
  in
• 1:09:23
  January
• 1:09:23
  and
• 1:09:23
  February,
• 1:09:24
  which
• 1:09:24
  is
• 1:09:24
  when
• 1:09:24
  we're
• 1:09:24
  recording
• 1:09:25
  this
• 1:09:26
  Reliant
• 1:09:27
  Gay
• 1:09:27
  as
• 1:09:27
  a
• 1:09:27
  song.
• 1:09:28
  Always
• 1:09:28
  winter,
• 1:09:28
  never
• 1:09:29
  Christmas.
• 1:09:30
  And
• 1:09:30
  that
• 1:09:30
  always
• 1:09:31
  makes
• 1:09:31
  me
• 1:09:31
  think
• 1:09:31
  of
• 1:09:32
  Narnia
• 1:09:32
  with
• 1:09:32
  the
• 1:09:33
  White
• 1:09:33
  Witch
• 1:09:33
  and
• 1:09:33
  how
• 1:09:33
  it's
• 1:09:34
  always
• 1:09:34
  winter
• 1:09:35
  but
• 1:09:35
  never
• 1:09:35
  Christmas.
• 1:09:36
  And
• 1:09:36
  it's
• 1:09:36
  a
• 1:09:37
  great
• 1:09:37
  song.
• 1:09:37
  So
• 1:09:37
  check
• 1:09:38
  those
• 1:09:38
  two
• 1:09:38
  out
• 1:09:38
  if
• 1:09:38
  you
• 1:09:39
  want.
• 1:09:39
  You
• 1:09:40
  don't
• 1:09:40
  have
• 1:09:40
  to,
• 1:09:40
  but,
• 1:09:40
  you
• 1:09:40
  know,
• 1:09:41
  I
• 1:09:41
  recommend
• 1:09:41
  them.
• 1:09:42
  Brandon,
• 1:09:43
  any
• 1:09:43
  recommendations
• 1:09:43
  for
• 1:09:44
  people
• 1:09:44
  out
• 1:09:44
  there?
• 1:09:45
  As
• 1:09:45
  the
• 1:09:46
  one
• 1:09:46
  person
• 1:09:46
  who
• 1:09:46
  likes
• 1:09:47
  Turkish
• 1:09:47
  delight,
• 1:09:48
  go
• 1:09:48
  get
• 1:09:48
  yourself
• 1:09:48
  some
• 1:09:48
  Turkish
• 1:09:49
  delight.
• 1:09:50
  Apricot
• 1:09:50
  is
• 1:09:51
  the
• 1:09:51
  easiest
• 1:09:52
  flavor
• 1:09:52
  to
• 1:09:52
  get.
• 1:09:53
  Rose
• 1:09:53
  is
• 1:09:53
  my
• 1:09:54
  personal
• 1:09:54
  favorite.
• 1:09:54
  Favorite.
• 1:09:55
  Not
• 1:09:55
  too
• 1:09:55
  big
• 1:09:56
  of
• 1:09:56
  a
• 1:09:56
  pistachio
• 1:09:57
  person,
• 1:09:57
  but,
• 1:09:57
  you
• 1:09:58
  know,
• 1:09:58
  go
• 1:09:59
  that
• 1:09:59
  route,
• 1:10:00
  you
• 1:10:01
  know.
• 1:10:01
  Fair
• 1:10:01
  enough,
• 1:10:01
  Fair
• 1:10:02
  enough.
• 1:10:02
  All
• 1:10:02
  right,
• 1:10:02
  Joe.
• 1:10:03
  Chewing
• 1:10:03
  on
• 1:10:04
  cud.
• 1:10:04
  What
• 1:10:04
  is
• 1:10:05
  the
• 1:10:05
  matter
• 1:10:05
  with
• 1:10:05
  you?
• 1:10:05
  I'll
• 1:10:06
  pray
• 1:10:06
  for
• 1:10:06
  you.
• 1:10:06
  That
• 1:10:06
  is.
• 1:10:07
  That
• 1:10:07
  is
• 1:10:07
  absurd.
• 1:10:09
  Y'.
• 1:10:09
  All.
• 1:10:09
  I.
• 1:10:10
  I'm
• 1:10:10
  gonna.
• 1:10:10
  I'm
• 1:10:11
  gonna
• 1:10:11
  take
• 1:10:11
  it
• 1:10:11
  in
• 1:10:11
  an
• 1:10:12
  entirely
• 1:10:12
  different
• 1:10:13
  direction.
• 1:10:14
  If
• 1:10:15
  you
• 1:10:15
  are
• 1:10:16
  the
• 1:10:16
  type
• 1:10:16
  of
• 1:10:16
  person
• 1:10:17
  who
• 1:10:17
  appreciates
• 1:10:18
  the
• 1:10:18
  yester
• 1:10:18
  year
• 1:10:19
  of
• 1:10:19
  gaming
• 1:10:20
  and
• 1:10:20
  you
• 1:10:21
  want
• 1:10:21
  to
• 1:10:22
  experience
• 1:10:23
  a
• 1:10:24
  different
• 1:10:24
  take
• 1:10:25
  on
• 1:10:25
  in
• 1:10:26
  the
• 1:10:26
  early
• 1:10:26
  days
• 1:10:27
  of
• 1:10:28
  Pokemon
• 1:10:28
  outside
• 1:10:29
  of
• 1:10:29
  the
• 1:10:29
  mainline
• 1:10:30
  games,
• 1:10:31
  then
• 1:10:31
  I
• 1:10:31
  would
• 1:10:32
  strongly
• 1:10:33
  suggest
• 1:10:34
  to
• 1:10:35
  enter
• 1:10:35
  into
• 1:10:36
  the
• 1:10:36
  ROM
• 1:10:36
  hack
• 1:10:36
  world.
• 1:10:38
  There
• 1:10:38
  are
• 1:10:39
  a
• 1:10:39
  million
• 1:10:39
  ROM
• 1:10:40
  hacks
• 1:10:40
  out
• 1:10:40
  there.
• 1:10:41
  I
• 1:10:41
  am
• 1:10:41
  in
• 1:10:42
  the
• 1:10:42
  middle
• 1:10:42
  of
• 1:10:43
  a.
• 1:10:44
  A
• 1:10:45
  replay
• 1:10:45
  through
• 1:10:45
  a
• 1:10:46
  rom
• 1:10:46
  hack
• 1:10:47
  of
• 1:10:47
  Gen
• 1:10:47
  2,
• 1:10:48
  and
• 1:10:49
  it
• 1:10:49
  is.
• 1:10:50
  It's
• 1:10:50
  really
• 1:10:51
  cool
• 1:10:51
  to.
• 1:10:51
  To
• 1:10:51
  see
• 1:10:52
  what
• 1:10:53
  people
• 1:10:53
  do,
• 1:10:53
  to
• 1:10:54
  expand
• 1:10:55
  on
• 1:10:55
  what
• 1:10:56
  was
• 1:10:56
  largely
• 1:10:56
  primitive
• 1:10:57
  at
• 1:10:57
  the
• 1:10:58
  time,
• 1:10:59
  to
• 1:10:59
  create
• 1:10:59
  entirely
• 1:11:00
  new
• 1:11:00
  worlds
• 1:11:01
  using
• 1:11:01
  mechanics
• 1:11:02
  that
• 1:11:02
  we
• 1:11:02
  already
• 1:11:02
  know.
• 1:11:03
  Yeah,
• 1:11:03
  yeah.
• 1:11:04
  I
• 1:11:04
  have
• 1:11:04
  a
• 1:11:04
  friend
• 1:11:04
  at
• 1:11:04
  work
• 1:11:04
  who
• 1:11:05
  started
• 1:11:05
  doing
• 1:11:06
  Pokemon
• 1:11:06
  xy.
• 1:11:07
  He's
• 1:11:07
  got
• 1:11:07
  a
• 1:11:07
  rom
• 1:11:07
  on
• 1:11:08
  his
• 1:11:08
  phone.
• 1:11:08
  You're
• 1:11:09
  doing
• 1:11:09
  XY
• 1:11:09
  on
• 1:11:10
  your
• 1:11:10
  phone?
• 1:11:10
  What
• 1:11:11
  a
• 1:11:11
  day
• 1:11:11
  we
• 1:11:11
  live
• 1:11:11
  in.
• 1:11:12
  This
• 1:11:12
  is
• 1:11:12
  the
• 1:11:13
  day
• 1:11:13
  the
• 1:11:13
  Lord
• 1:11:13
  has
• 1:11:13
  made
• 1:11:13
  when
• 1:11:14
  I
• 1:11:14
  can
• 1:11:14
  play
• 1:11:14
  Pokemon
• 1:11:15
  on
• 1:11:15
  my
• 1:11:15
  phone.
• 1:11:17
  Guys,
• 1:11:18
  please
• 1:11:18
  remember,
• 1:11:18
  rate,
• 1:11:18
  review
• 1:11:18
  our
• 1:11:19
  show
• 1:11:19
  wherever
• 1:11:19
  you
• 1:11:19
  get
• 1:11:19
  your
• 1:11:19
  podcasts.
• 1:11:20
  It
• 1:11:20
  really
• 1:11:20
  helps
• 1:11:20
  with
• 1:11:21
  algorithms.
• 1:11:21
  Supposedly.
• 1:11:22
  Supposedly.
• 1:11:23
  It's
• 1:11:23
  also
• 1:11:24
  what
• 1:11:24
  a
• 1:11:24
  shout
• 1:11:24
  out
• 1:11:24
  one.
• 1:11:25
  Financial
• 1:11:25
  sponsors
• 1:11:26
  again,
• 1:11:26
  thank
• 1:11:26
  you,
• 1:11:27
  James
• 1:11:27
  Barrett.
• 1:11:27
  James,
• 1:11:28
  you're
• 1:11:28
  amazing.
• 1:11:28
  Way
• 1:11:29
  better
• 1:11:29
  than
• 1:11:29
  James
• 1:11:29
  in
• 1:11:29
  Adventure
• 1:11:30
  Time.
• 1:11:30
  You're
• 1:11:31
  great.
• 1:11:32
  If
• 1:11:32
  you
• 1:11:32
  guys
• 1:11:32
  want
• 1:11:32
  your
• 1:11:33
  own
• 1:11:33
  shout
• 1:11:33
  out
• 1:11:34
  again,
• 1:11:34
  you
• 1:11:34
  can
• 1:11:34
  sponsor
• 1:11:35
  our
• 1:11:35
  show
• 1:11:35
  on
• 1:11:35
  our
• 1:11:35
  website
• 1:11:36
  and
• 1:11:36
  become
• 1:11:37
  a
• 1:11:37
  member
• 1:11:37
  member
• 1:11:38
  like
• 1:11:38
  James
• 1:11:38
  and
• 1:11:38
  we'll
• 1:11:39
  shout
• 1:11:39
  you
• 1:11:39
  out
• 1:11:39
  on
• 1:11:39
  the
• 1:11:39
  show.
• 1:11:41
  Same
• 1:11:41
  website,
• 1:11:41
  you
• 1:11:42
  can
• 1:11:42
  also
• 1:11:42
  get
• 1:11:42
  some
• 1:11:42
  free
• 1:11:42
  con
• 1:11:43
  extra
• 1:11:43
  content.
• 1:11:43
  If
• 1:11:43
  you
• 1:11:44
  want
• 1:11:44
  to
• 1:11:44
  become
• 1:11:44
  a
• 1:11:44
  free
• 1:11:44
  member,
• 1:11:44
  you
• 1:11:45
  don't
• 1:11:45
  have
• 1:11:45
  to
• 1:11:45
  support
• 1:11:45
  the
• 1:11:45
  show.
• 1:11:46
  You
• 1:11:46
  can
• 1:11:46
  buy
• 1:11:46
  some
• 1:11:47
  merch,
• 1:11:47
  leave
• 1:11:47
  a
• 1:11:47
  one
• 1:11:47
  time
• 1:11:47
  time
• 1:11:47
  financial
• 1:11:48
  tip,
• 1:11:49
  whatever.
• 1:11:50
  Again,
• 1:11:51
  you
• 1:11:51
  know,
• 1:11:51
  Faces
• 1:11:52
  Behind
• 1:11:52
  Us,
• 1:11:52
  our
• 1:11:52
  annual
• 1:11:53
  theme,
• 1:11:53
  we
• 1:11:53
  have
• 1:11:53
  our
• 1:11:53
  own
• 1:11:53
  shirt,
• 1:11:53
  looks
• 1:11:54
  good
• 1:11:54
  in
• 1:11:54
  purple.
• 1:11:54
  If
• 1:11:54
  you
• 1:11:54
  like
• 1:11:54
  purple
• 1:11:55
  shirts,
• 1:11:56
  this
• 1:11:56
  is
• 1:11:56
  the
• 1:11:56
  one
• 1:11:57
  for
• 1:11:57
  you
• 1:11:58
  again.
• 1:11:58
  Next
• 1:11:58
  up
• 1:11:58
  in
• 1:11:58
  our
• 1:11:59
  annual
• 1:11:59
  theme
• 1:11:59
  series,
• 1:12:00
  Faces
• 1:12:00
  Behind
• 1:12:00
  Us,
• 1:12:01
  we'll
• 1:12:01
  be
• 1:12:01
  discussing
• 1:12:02
  other
• 1:12:02
  Time
• 1:12:02
  Lords
• 1:12:03
  who
• 1:12:03
  have
• 1:12:03
  influenced
• 1:12:03
  the
• 1:12:03
  Doctor
• 1:12:04
  and
• 1:12:04
  Doctor
• 1:12:04
  who
• 1:12:05
  right
• 1:12:05
  here
• 1:12:05
  on
• 1:12:05
  the
• 1:12:05
  main
• 1:12:05
  feed.
• 1:12:06
  So
• 1:12:06
  just
• 1:12:06
  be
• 1:12:07
  waiting
• 1:12:07
  for
• 1:12:07
  that.
• 1:12:08
  And
• 1:12:08
  of
• 1:12:08
  course,
• 1:12:08
  we
• 1:12:08
  need
• 1:12:09
  you
• 1:12:09
  all
• 1:12:09
  to
• 1:12:09
  do
• 1:12:09
  one
• 1:12:09
  very
• 1:12:10
  important
• 1:12:10
  thing
• 1:12:10
  for
• 1:12:10
  us.
• 1:12:11
  And
• 1:12:11
  remember,
• 1:12:12
  we
• 1:12:13
  are
• 1:12:13
  all
• 1:12:13
  a
• 1:12:13
  chosen
• 1:12:14
  people,
• 1:12:14
  a
• 1:12:15
  gikom
• 1:12:15
  of
• 1:12:15
  priest.